PBD Podcast Ep. 688 – Scott Jennings on Sedition, Dearborn Protests, Trump, and More

Date: November 21, 2025
Host: Patrick Bet-David (PBD)
Notable Guest: Scott Jennings
Main Theme:
This episode unpacks a wave of high-velocity current events—including a controversial video by Democrat lawmakers urging military resistance to Trump, the social and political impacts of Dearborn protests, the persistent ripple of Islamist influence in the US, political intrigue around elite funerals, debates about the upcoming Democratic nominee, the exposure of foreign money in US campaigns, and the looming Epstein files. Scott Jennings, author, commentator, and former Bush-Cheney advisor, provides sharp, unfiltered commentary throughout.

Key Segments and Discussion Points

1. Opening Topics and Today’s Stories

00:26–09:28

• Introduction of Scott Jennings and light banter about team members going out of their way for the esteemed guest.
• Rapid-fire preview of topics:
  • Video by Democratic lawmakers directed to the military
  • Dearborn protests with anti-Islam activism
  • Influence of the Muslim Brotherhood
  • Bush family’s rumored political comeback
  • California’s budget woes under Gavin Newsom
  • Iran flooding and conspiracy theories
  • Nigerian Christians and Nicki Minaj
  • Economic woes, Elon Musk’s commentary
• Comedic asides and segments about podcast promotions and ways the audience can get involved.

2. The ‘Sedition’ Video – Democrats to the Military: “Refuse Illegal Orders”

09:29–22:47
Key Segment: [09:29–15:27]

• Context: A viral video features Democratic lawmakers encouraging the US military and intelligence community to refuse “illegal orders,” widely interpreted as preparing for a scenario where Trump is once again Commander-in-Chief.
• Clip Plays: Senators and Representatives speak directly to military/intel personnel about oath and “threats to the Constitution at home.”
  • “You all swore an oath to protect and defend this Constitution… Right now, the threats to our Constitution aren’t just coming from abroad, but from right here at home.” [10:09]

Scott Jennings' Take:

“What they’re saying is complete and utter bullshit. There are no illegal orders. What has the president said or done? What order?” [11:07]
He continues, emphasizing the recklessness of such rhetoric.
“This rhetoric is designed to foment insurrection against the commander-in-chief and violence against the commander-in-chief... It goes back to 2016. They have never believed this man is a legitimate president.” [11:37]

Further Debate:

• Panel emphasizes that Democrats treat the military as political pawns.
• The opposition’s messaging is called out as “campaign gibberish” and a reflection of a party that opposes Trump more than it stands for policies.

Notable Exchange:

• When asked what’s the worst that could happen to these lawmakers, Jennings replies,

“Nothing, nothing will happen to them. And that’s what these Democrats are betting on…” [14:54]

Quote (Tom):

“He had to beat Hillary. He had to beat all of the subversion — Russiagate, the Steele dossier… that’s our guy.” [16:42]

3. Trump, Polls, and Foreign Policy Approval

19:32–22:56

• Harry Enten clip (CNN):
  Trump’s foreign policy approval is at 43%—higher than Bush or Obama at this point in their second terms.
• Scott Jennings:

“He has been the best foreign policy president in the modern era. Solved 8 wars, might be on the brink of solving Russia-Ukraine… The man hates war.” [21:58]

Adam (analogy):

“Trump is Michael Jordan. He is Tom Brady. He’s the GOAT… At some point, you have to realize, ‘Wow, I was wrong about Jordan.’ And then you realize, I’m watching greatness. That’s Trump.” [22:56]

4. Cheney Funeral and The New Political Divide

25:10–32:54

• Recap with images of political VIPs at Dick Cheney’s funeral—Cheney’s daughter, Bush, Jill Biden, Mitch McConnell, Kamala Harris, Rachel Maddow, Fauci—absentees include Trump, JD Vance, and the Obamas.
• Jennings:

“Rachel Maddow at Dick Cheney’s funeral… all he had to do was one thing to get Rachel Maddow there: he voted against Trump in 2024. To me, the transparency of this is sort of disgusting.” [27:40]

• Explains Washington divides as: “Did you stand against Trump or with Trump?”

• Bush comeback rumors: Jennings dismisses as unfounded; asserts the presidential nominee “controls the party.”

“Trump’s the president, he’s the titular head of the party… I don’t give it any credence.” [30:26]

5. Dearborn Protest: Anti-Islam Activists vs. Muslim Community

46:11–54:54

• Incident: Jake Lang, January 6th prisoner, leads an “Americans Against Islamification” protest in Dearborn, MI, performing extreme stunts (rubbing bacon on and burning Qurans).

• Discussion:

  • Footage of confrontations and discourse over whether this portends broader social conflict.
  • Host frames: “This is going to be a problem long-term.” [49:29]

• Broader Context:

  • Cites NY Post and a 200-page report on the Muslim Brotherhood infiltrating U.S. institutions, with calls to designate it a terror group.
  • Scott Jennings:

    “There are groups of people out there, foreign and domestic, that fundamentally are anti-West… We’re going to have to decide, as a society, are we going to continue on with Western civilization or allow people to dramatically and fundamentally change our belief systems?” [51:35]

• Demographic Trends:

  • Dramatic growth in U.S. Muslim population since 1970 (from 150,000 to 5 million).
  • Discussion on low birth rates, mass migration, and cultural change.
  • Jennings shares insights from his interview with Elon Musk warning of converging crises (debt, birth rates, migration):

    “He just sees all these macro problems converging, and it could lead to the downfall of America. That’s why he got involved in the campaign.” [54:54]

6. Muslim Brotherhood, Campus Radicalism, and Sharia Law in France

56:02–64:07

• Book references: “The War on the West” by Douglas Murray.

• Panel notes that Muslim Brotherhood is banned in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE, etc.—yet has latitude in the U.S.

• Adam:

  “Who is the Muslim Brotherhood? Look no further than ISIS, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, our friends in Hamas, IRGC, the Taliban. This is who they are… They are telling you out loud, ‘We’re coming for you.’” [57:38]

• Tom:

  • Warns that college campuses are complicit in undermining U.S. values.
  • “Liberals… want to bring [the American way of life] down. Ends justify the means.” [58:31]

• 6 in 10 young Muslims in France now favor Sharia law:

  • Scott Jennings warns that rising support for socialism and anti-Western sentiment among American youth is a parallel trend.

    “If that were to continue in the United States, you can see how this would turn out horribly, horribly, horribly for the country.” [62:00]

• Ilhan Omar clip: Speaking in Somali, “I am here to protect the interests of Somalia from within the U.S. system.”

  • Panel roundly condemns this open allegiance to a foreign power.

7. Faith & Persecution: Nigerian Christians

74:17–84:17

• Nicki Minaj draws headlines for speaking out about the persecution of Christians in Nigeria.

  • Plays clip: “Protecting Christians in Nigeria is not about taking sides…it is about uniting humanity.” [75:57]

• Vinnie: Shares statistics—thousands of Nigerian Christians killed; advocates for aid, launches “Faith over Fear” merchandise campaign.

  • Scott Jennings:

    “It’s dangerous in the entertainment business to stand up for any kind of conservative values… A lot of energy expended in this country by media and people in that world for the supposed genocide in Gaza. No energy expended [for Christians]. Why? Because they’re Christians.” [79:25]

• Tom: Discusses geopolitical complexity: Nigeria is now 51% Muslim, and oil interests mean the West stays silent.

8. Trump Meets Mayor Mamdani – Populism, Socialism, and Political Theater

85:55–96:36

• Incoming NYC Mayor Mamdani (open socialist) visits White House to meet Trump.

• Panel speculates on the optics and substance of meeting:

  • Jennings:

    “I just have no belief that Mamdani knows what he’s doing at all… He’s never had a job, not qualified to manage NYC… If you want affordability, socialism is NOT the answer. Try living in a socialist country.” [88:03]

  • Tom:

    “[They say] ‘we fund it, not the question of how we do it.’… You got played, New York.” [91:27]

• PBD:

  “Say whatever you want to say. The guy won. He beat Adams, Sliwa, and Cuomo. He won. Trump… respects winners. I think it’s a good move that he’s doing it.” [92:15]

9. Viral Moments: IQ Debate, Race Card, and ‘Gotchas’ on Cable News

96:46–101:24

• Scott Jennings recounts an incident on CNN where a panelist played the race card after Jennings made a pointed argument:

  “Oh my goodness. This is an IQ test. Don’t fail it. Come on, man.” [97:44]

• A panelist tried to label Jennings’ retort as a racial slight; Jennings sets the record straight:

  “I know this man. He’s a smart guy. We’re having a debate. Don’t make it into something. We don’t even know each other, but we do.” [98:19]

• Panel lampoons the tendency to play identity politics rather than stay on topic.

10. Media & Politics: Stephen A. Smith, Newsom, and 2028 Democrats

104:46–115:08

• Stephen A. Smith clarifies why he’s off NBA Countdown—it was his own contract negotiation.

• Newsom as 2028 Democratic frontrunner?

  • Jennings doubts it:

    “I do not believe he will be the nominee… There's a real socialist energy in their party… I think those are the two roads: either AOC or some outsider.” [107:58]

• JB Pritzker (Illinois Governor): Tom jokes about his health and background if he runs; panel discusses optics of a “no more billionaires” party nominating a billionaire.

• Extended panel banter imagining AOC as a nominee, skepticism about Kamala Harris, and the emotional energy of Democratic voters.

11. Pros of the Fugees Sentenced, Foreign Money in U.S. Elections

115:31–121:16

• Pros (Fugees) sentenced to 14 years for funnelling millions in illegal foreign funds to Obama's 2012 campaign.

  • Vinnie: “Did Obama know?”
  • Jennings:

    “Millions went to Obama in a hotly contested election… it came in handy in Ohio, I was there.” [119:05]

• Discussion about the hypocrisy and double standards of foreign influence and campaign finance law.

12. Bill Ackman’s Dating Advice Debate

121:19–129:44

• Bill Ackman’s viral advice: “May I meet you?” as a conversation starter.
  • Panel: Playful ribbing about how effective such a line would be for “normal” guys versus billionaires.
  • Counters that confidence, not lines, matter.
  • Jennings:

    “I think it’s more physical. If you exude some amount of confidence… I think there's little competition because most people don't have the confidence to do it.” [128:25]

13. Epstein Files: Transparency, Political Fallout, and Dems on Defense

130:09–148:44

• Trump signs bill to release Justice Dept. Epstein files.

• Panel reviews:

  • Bill Gates’ links to Epstein
  • Jasmine Crockett (Democrat Rep.) fumbles explaining contacts with Epstein
  • Broader push for accountability

• Jennings notes:

  “Everything that we know in the last two weeks is that Epstein was far more tied in with Democrats. Donald Trump got rid of Epstein… I’m not sure the Democrats ever really got rid of the guy.” [139:36]

• Vinnie:

  “We want somebody… give me one famous elite that one of the girls could be like, ‘That’s the guy, I was 14, that’s him.’ That’s what we want.” [140:28]

• Panel Discussion: Whether this is “ruining the MAGA movement”—Adam counters with data showing only a minor dip in Trump’s Republican approval.

14. Scott Jennings’ Book: “A Revolution of Common Sense”

148:54–150:47

• Jennings explains inspiration (Trump’s inaugural address reference to “common sense”):

  “I picked out the issues from the first hundred days that best exemplified his pursuit of more common sense policies in government… If you love Trump, you’ll like it. And if you know somebody who hates Trump, get it for Christmas, wrap it up, put it under their tree.” [148:54]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Scott Jennings, on the sedition video:

  “This rhetoric is designed to foment insurrection against the commander in chief and violence against the commander in chief.” [11:37]

• Adam, on Trump’s legacy:

  “Trump is Michael Jordan… And then you realize, I’m watching greatness. That’s Trump.” [22:56]

• On the changing culture and demographics (Jennings):

  “It’s fundamentally at odds with our Western civilization that we've relied upon for thousands of years. Europe has largely succumbed to this…” [51:35]

• On Ilhan Omar:

  “I am here to protect the interests of Somalia from within the U.S. system.” [65:48]

• Scott Jennings, on Nicki Minaj and Christian persecution:

  “No energy expended. This murder statistics… that is a genocide against Christians. Okay? That's what's happening in Nigeria.” [79:25]

• Jennings, critiquing Democratic “platform”:

  “At some point, the Democratic establishment… is going to have to figure out what do we actually stand for other than opposing Trump.” [17:09]

• On Bill Ackman’s dating advice (Scott):

  “You either exude confidence or you don’t… and there’s little competition because most people don’t have the confidence to do it. And so women aren’t being approached, and so they’re waiting to be.” [128:25]

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 09:29 – “Sedition” video plays, analysis begins
• 21:18 – Harry Enten (CNN) on Trump’s foreign policy approval spike
• 25:10 – Cheney funeral, who’s in, who’s out
• 46:11 – Dearborn anti-Islam protest breakdown
• 51:35 – Jennings on Muslim Brotherhood and Western civilization
• 65:48 – Ilhan Omar’s “Somalia in America” quote
• 75:10 – Nicki Minaj speaks on Nigerian Christians
• 85:55 – Mayor Mamdani meets Trump
• 96:46 – IQ “gotcha” moment on CNN, race card
• 104:46 – Stephen A. Smith “exits” NBA Countdown clarification
• 107:58 – Jennings on 2028 Democratic nominee
• 115:31 – Pros (Fugees) sentencing for illegal campaign donations
• 121:19 – Bill Ackman “may I meet you?” dating advice
• 130:09 – Epstein files discussion, Jasmine Crockett clip
• 148:54 – Scott Jennings pitches new book

Summary Tone

• The episode is high-energy, irreverent, and unfiltered—true to PBD’s lively, conversational style.
• The panel moves rapidly between hard news, data, personal anecdotes, culture-war flashpoints, and vigorous debate.
• Scott Jennings is sharply critical of Democrats, defends Trump, and regularly connects hot news stories to larger trends in American politics and identity.

For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode is a comprehensive, sometimes satirical, but intensely focused roundtable on the defining political and cultural divides of 2025—sedition, faith, immigration, radicalism, elite hypocrisy, and the struggle for narrative control. Essential listening if you care about the future of American politics, Western values, or simply want to keep up with the rapid-fire news cycle—with trademark PBD wit, skepticism, and real talk.

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