El Mencho Killing IGNITES Narco War & Newsom's 960 SAT Speech | PBD #744

Summary

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PBD Podcast #744: El Mencho Killing IGNITES Narco War & Newsom's 960 SAT Speech

Date: February 23, 2026
Host: Patrick Bet-David (PBD) & Panel
Location: The Vault, Valuetainment Studios, Fort Lauderdale

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into two dramatic current events: the fallout from the killing of Mexican drug lord El Mencho, which has triggered country-wide cartel violence and political questions about narco-state dynamics; and Governor Gavin Newsom’s controversial SAT speech aimed at the Black community. The conversation weaves in broader US-Mexico relations, Supreme Court decisions on tariffs, the state of US politics, security, societal issues, and moving personal stories about family, fatherhood, and forgiveness.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. El Mencho’s Death and the Narco War in Mexico

Starts: 11:20

Main Narrative

• El Mencho (Nemesio Oseguera Cervantes), leader of the CJNG (Jalisco New Generation Cartel), was killed in a military operation.
• His death caused violent clashes, fires, blockades, and general chaos in tourist areas.
• US issued warnings for Americans to shelter in place—especially alarming since these are major vacation spots.
• El Mencho’s background: Former cop, arrested in the US, deported, broke from Sinaloa cartel to form CJNG.
• The group is notorious for brutal acts and the lucrative fentanyl/meth trade.

Key Quotes

• Vinny (16:06):
  “We just heard a phone call of the recently deceased head of this freaking cartel calling the head of their police department and saying, I give you guys money. I know where 30 of you live…These people are freaking relentless.”
• Tom (18:32):
  “If you cut the head off the dragon, you better be ready with plan B. Who’s going to step in behind it and manage it?”

Notable Moments

• Played violent, real-time social media clips of burning vehicles, chaos at airports, and public executions.
• Discussed corruption at the highest levels of Mexican government, hinting President Sheinbaum may be compromised or aligned with cartels.

Analysis and Broader Implications

• Tourism Fallout:
  Hosts discussed second-guessing future trips to Mexico.
  PBD (26:46):
  “I don’t know if we’re gonna go to Mexico in the next five years as a family.”

• Power Vacuum:
  Concerns about violence intensifying as other cartel figures fight for control.

• US Perspective:
  Should the US intervene with "surgical attacks" or remain isolationist? Panel agreed the situation at the border (drugs, guns, trafficking) is untenable.

• Upcoming Events:
  The security threat to the 2026 World Cup, particularly matches scheduled in Jalisco.
  Tom (19:47):
  “119. You know what that is, Pat? The number of days to the World Cup event in Jalisco.”

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2. US-Iran Tensions—Parallels to Mexico

Starts: 32:49

Main Narrative

• Iran is on the brink of military confrontation with the US, amidst mounting student protests (“Death to Khamenei”) and failed negotiations over nuclear enrichment.
• The hosts draw parallels between sudden “decapitation” of regimes (El Mencho, Saddam, potential in Iran) and the chaos that follows.
• Trump’s approach is described as “surgical” and deliberate—he doesn’t want another Iraq-style quagmire.

Key Quotes

• Tom (34:29):
  “You got to go after the facilities, but then you gotta have a plan for succession. That’s the issue, Pat.”
• Adam (37:24):
  “How brave are these protesters in Iran…[after] tens of thousands were murdered by the regime and they went out and protested again?”

Insights & Concerns

• The issue isn’t just toppling a dictator; the challenge is what comes after and ensuring stability.
• Dilemmas around negotiating with “the enemy” vs. upholding the US stance of not making deals with terrorists.

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3. Tariffs, Supreme Court & Trump’s Economic Policy

Starts: 65:00

Main Narrative

• Trump raises global tariffs from 10% to 15% following a Supreme Court ruling (6-3) against executive tariff authority.
• Heated panel debate about constitutional powers, practical trade impact, and the globalists vs. sovereignty narrative.

Key Quotes

• Tom (65:29):
  “We’ve got liberals that think it’s a good thing that you’ve incapacitated your leader from making good decisions for your country…It’s just anti-Trump.”
• Adam (73:37):
  “We need to make Congress great again… we respect the rule of law… but I also understand why people are pissed.”

Notable Guest Input

• Rand Paul (via earlier interview): Tariffs are the House’s prerogative, not the President’s—a warning about executive overreach.
• Kevin O’Leary (Short Business Clip, 76:01): Outlines the massive compliance confusion and economic ripple from tariff policies and Supreme Court ambiguity.

Panel Summary

• Frustration with slow American legislative process contrasted with autocracies like China: “Days to weeks” vs “months or years.”
• The Supreme Court as America’s true “board of directors.”

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4. Governor Newsom’s 960 SAT Speech

Starts: 92:09

Main Narrative

• Newsom tries to “relate” to an African American audience by admitting his own mediocre SAT score and claiming, “I can’t read a speech.”
• Widely seen as condescending and pandering, even racist, by the panel.

Key Quotes

• Vinny (93:45):
  “If DeSantis was on stage with a black mayor and was like, man I’m like y’all…I barely passed the SATs because I’m dumb like y’all… Where is the outrage?”
• Tom (96:14):
  “The pandering has gone on from the Democrats for a long time…There are African Americans that are waking up, thinking for themselves, that are saying, ‘I will not be automatically assumed to be your voting block.’”

Analysis

• Deep frustration with what is perceived as Democrats’ “soft bigotry of low expectations.”
• Reference to earlier incidents (“Biden’s ‘you ain’t black’ gaffe”, “Kathy Hochul’s computer comment”) as examples of systemic condescension.

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5. New York Governance & ID Requirements Paradox

Starts: 113:27

Main Narrative

• Irony and hypocrisy in NYC’s strict ID/documentation for paid snow shoveling — “2 forms of ID and a Social Security card”—vs. arguments against voter ID laws.
• Report by influencer Lizzie Savetsky goes viral, exposing the absurdity and bureaucracy.

Key Quotes

• Panel (116:31):
  “They want to tell us we don’t need ID to vote but we need two forms of ID to shovel.”
• Adam (125:43):
  “Fareed Zakaria…said the big blue cities are out of control, promising more, delivering less…The budget has doubled since Bloomberg—where are the results?”

Additional Issues

• Massive NYC budget ($127B), shrinking population, spiraling taxes, and ideological policies leading to urban exodus.

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6. Religion, Public Displays, and Social Cohesion

Starts: 117:01

Main Narrative

• Protests and prayers in Times Square by Muslims, claims of “taking over the city,” and increasing discomfort with aggressive public displays of faith, especially considering 9/11’s anniversary.
• Concerns that these acts are not simply religious observance, but assertions of dominance, especially when juxtaposed against rules for Christians.

Key Quotes

• Vinny (119:46):
  “Shutting down Times Square as a New Yorker is a spit in the face to everybody…that’s a battle call.”
• Tom (123:21):
  “Compromise doesn’t help, it only dilutes your values; that’s how once-thriving societies are undermined.”

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7. Personal Stories: Fatherhood, Forgiveness, and Family

Starts: 138:46

Main Narrative

• Moving discussions centered around interviews with Anthony Hopkins (estranged from his daughter), a father-son reconciliation moment (with rapper Logic), and the deep need for fathers in sons’ lives.

Key Quotes

• Anthony Hopkins (141:15):
  “We are imperfect. We’re not saints…We do the best we can. Life is painful. Sometimes people get hurt, sometimes we get hurt. But you can’t live like that. You have to get over it.”
• Logic (Dialogue, 151:18):
  “I was that little boy…and you told me you would come, and you promised, you promise. I’m a man of my word today because you weren’t.”

Panel Reaction

• Vinny (144:17): Emotional reflection on losing his father, the need for forgiveness, and the importance of presence.
• Adam (147:29): Shared personal story of estrangement with his father, lessons in breaking generational cycles, and being intentional about future relationships with children.
• Tom (153:47):
  “Parents don’t leave each other; they leave kids…If people say, ‘That hurt me so bad, I’m never going to let you close to me,’ it’s human tragedy. Regardless how deep you go…Jesus Christ can heal, even if the parent is never to be seen again.”

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8. Other Notable Segments

• US Hockey Victory:
  84:54
  Celebration of US men’s hockey win against Canada.
  Jack Hughes: “I’m so proud to be American. Let’s go!”

• Mar-a-Lago Shooting:
  130:25
  Discussion on the attempted armed breach by an apparently mentally ill man, with speculation on security and motives.

• California’s Next Governor:
  107:12, 110:03
  Brief comedic tangent on “Kim” (Katie) Porter’s campaign ad—“F Trump” as sole message.

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Notable Timestamps & Quotes

| Time | Speaker | Quote / Segment | |----------|---------|--------------------------------------------------------------| | 11:20 | PBD | “First story...Mexico’s Most Wanted drug dealer El Mencho killed in military operation as violent clashes erupt...” | | 16:06 | Vinny | “These people are relentless...I saw videos...the brutality there.” | | 18:32 | Tom | “If you cut the head off the dragon, you better be ready with plan B.” | | 26:46 | PBD | “I don’t know if we’re gonna go to Mexico in the next five years as a family.” | | 34:29 | Tom | “You got to go after the facilities, but then you gotta have a plan for succession. That’s the issue, Pat.” | | 65:29 | Tom | “We’ve got liberals that think it’s a good thing that you’ve incapacitated your leader from making good decisions...” | | 73:37 | Adam | “We need to make Congress great again… but I also understand why people are pissed.” | | 92:09 | Newsom | “I’m like you… I’m no better than you… I’m a 960 SAT guy.” | | 93:45 | Vinny | “If DeSantis was on stage with a black mayor...I’m dumb like y’all...Where is the outrage?” | | 116:31 | Panel | “They want to tell us we don’t need ID to vote but we need two forms of ID to shovel.” | | 123:21 | Tom | “Compromise doesn’t help, it only dilutes your values; that’s how once-thriving societies are undermined.” | | 141:15 | Hopkins | “We are imperfect. We’re not saints…you have to get over it…And if you can’t get over it, fine. Good luck to you.” | | 151:18 | Logic | “I waited for you. I waited every weekend and you never showed up... I’m a man of my word today because you weren’t.” | | 153:47 | Tom | “Parents don’t leave each other; they leave Kids...it’s human tragedy...But there’s always a way out...” |

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Notable Quotes (With Attribution & Timestamps)

• “We just heard a phone call of the recently deceased head of this freaking cartel calling the head of their police department and saying, I give you guys money...These people are freaking relentless.” — Vinny (16:06)
• “If you cut the head off the dragon, you better be ready with plan B. Who’s going to step in behind it and manage it?” — Tom (18:32)
• “I don’t know if we’re gonna go to Mexico in the next five years as a family.” — PBD (26:46)
• “You got to go after the facilities, but then you gotta have a plan for succession. That’s the issue, Pat.” — Tom (34:29)
• “960 SAT guy...if you got 940...” — Gavin Newsom (92:13)
• “If DeSantis was on stage with a black mayor and was like, man, I’m like y’all...Where is the outrage?” — Vinny (93:45)
• “We are imperfect. We’re not saints...You have to get over it. And if you can’t get over it, fine. Good luck to you.” — Anthony Hopkins (141:15)

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Flow & Tone

• Conversational, dynamic, and combative, especially regarding political hypocrisy, policy implications, and cultural trends.
• Tone alternates between outrage (Newsom, cartel violence), sober analysis (tariffs, succession plans in unstable states), and profound personal vulnerability (family/forgiveness sections).
• Frequent use of real-world analogies (e.g., “cutting the head off the snake”), humor, and pop culture references.

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Concluding Thoughts

The episode blends urgent current affairs with classic PBD Podcast depth: illuminating analysis of geopolitical instability, systemic government dysfunction, and raw, relatable stories about family and personal growth. The frequent call-outs of political hypocrisy (bipartisan), the importance of stable leadership, and the power of presence and forgiveness in family life tie the themes together.

Advice to listeners: Reflect on the personal and political lessons—whether about the dangers of power vacuums, the need for accountable governance, or the critical importance of family and presence for kids.

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[End of Summary]

Transcript

[A]

Did you ever think you were made again,

[B]

Adam?

[A]

What's your point?

[C]

The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever size right here. You are a 1 of 1 My son's right about. I don't think I've ever said this before. All right. Another one of those weekends where a lot of things happen. If you were in Mexico on vacation, we're being told, God bless you, buckle down, be safe, get out if you can. We've all seen the videos. You've probably seen the videos. Absolute atrocities of what's going on in Mexico. And these are places we went to, resorts we've stayed. I've probably been in Mexico 50 times the last 25 years. We have some incredible memories. But every time he'd go, he'd say, hey, just be careful. What could happen. And this whole El Mencho story of what's going on with him. The guy was a former cop is what he was. The guy that they killed who was the leader of cjng. El Mencho, he's a former copy was a local police officer. His story will go. He got arrested in the US before they send him back. We've known who he is. You know, they split off from the cartel and then they did what they did. But anyways, there's a lot to cover there. And Tom had a very unique angle this morning. I want Steele's thunder. I want you to hear it from him because he had a very good point on how America can. The folks who are concerned, how this applies to what could happen to Iran any minute now. State of the Union is when. Tomorrow night is when the State of the Union is. We're going to be doing a live event here ourselves and we'll be reacting to the State of the Union. What time is the. Is it at 9:00 o', clock, Rob? Is it 8 or 9:00 o'? Clock?

[B]

9:00pm Eastern?

[C]

9:00pm Eastern Rock. And Vinnie loves it. Like the later they get it. I don't know why they can't do that. Midnight, like, why can't you do the State of the Union at midnight with cigars? You know what I'm saying? Like cigars with three, four cigars. Vinnie will light the one by one by one and we have to talk about Iran. What would be wild is, can you imagine the president has given a State of the Union speech and there's Nancy Pelosi somewhere in her house ripping papers apart and all of a sudden the attack to Iran happens simultaneously. We know who's going to be there, you know who we invited the US national, the hockey team that just won.

[B]

I love it. I heard that.

[C]

What an incredible video. We got to turn that guy into a hero when you win that way. So it's going to be a lot going on there, the tariff ruling, a lot coming out. The president, you know, he's upset when he's sending tweets out on Truth Social with lowercase. He doesn't like lowercase, but he's the opposite. You know how they say the uppercase is screaming to him, the lowercase is screaming. You know, it's different for different people. We'll show that. And John Kiraki, who was a former CIA agent, he's the guy that came out and talked about waterboarding being a real thing, got arrested, got in trouble. He said some things that he thinks is going on with Iran, by the way, CIA. He's also on the nect. His manect is blowing up right now with a bunch of people asking him questions. He, you guys can go Manek John. He's got some thoughts on what's going on with Iran. And then for, for the folks that, you know, say, you know, you need an ID to vote is too much, too much stuff to do. Can you imagine, like, people got to get serious about this stuff. What's more important, voting or shoveling snow? Of course it's shoveling snow in New York and you need more IDs for that, you know. And there's this lady Adam was talking about this morning, I think her name is Liz or something, who's in New York, going around. She went there, 8:00am they said, you got to come back at 8:00pm yeah. She says, I got a shovel. So this is not approved. You need two IDs. I gotta blow. What do you call it, you know, to be snowblower? No, no, no. It's not approved. It's not approved, you know, because Mamdani in New York, they got certain rules and regulations you got to follow. And you know, he went to a certain mosque. Maybe Vinnie will show you the clip of what happened there. Mar a Lago shooting that took place. And 20 year old. There are some people that are speculating what the guy's background is. JP Morgan admits it shuttered Trump's accounts following January 6 Capitol riot. If that is the case, it is going to be nasty. If they did that and now that they're admitting to it, Trump calls on Netflix to Fireboard member Suzanne Susan Rice or pay the consequences. And she flipped. And she threatens Trump supporters. Revenge is best served cold. What does that Mean, imagine when these guys get back in office, what they're planning on doing. JD Or Marco. A lot of people are talking about who it's going to be. Have we ran a poll here yet, Rob, on who the audience would rather have? I don't know if we have or not. You just start the poll right now and let it rip. And, folks, we're curious, if it was one of the two, who would you vote for? JD Put JD Put Marco. Put other three options. JD Marco, otherwise. And let's see how that goes. Trump raises global tariffs to 15%. Rand Paul. I got a clip of him predicting that this was going to take place, and he called it. In defense of our republic. Kevin o' Leary says Supreme Court caused a nightmare with the tariff decision. We'll cover that. And then LA Mayor called out by reporter on live tv. California is having a rough time. This guy named Gavin Newsom, who's the governor, is trying to have the most, you know, important job in the world to an audience. He was trying to relate to this African American audience and talking about how dumb he is. And I don't know. I don't know what you're trying to say, like, to relate to so extremely. Some people called it extremely racist. He called it noble, or maybe like, you know, talking about his SAT score. It's officially public. And then we got a few other things that we got to cover. The guy who won. Beautifully done. What else we got here? I think I got all this stuff right. Even Cash Patel was there. Oh, my girl is back. Folks, I tell my wife all the time, if there is a woman you have to worry about, it's not Charlize, it's not Scarlet, it's not Jada Pinkett. It's Kim Porter. I mean, this is like, listen, so hot. I mean, can you imagine how dirty she'll talk to you? Just think about it, okay? How she would be. But this, this lady, that's one of you, honestly, I'm not even lying to you. I miss you.

[D]

She does it for you.

[C]

I miss you. You've been gone too long. What man doesn't like a woman that just wants to argue 247 and fight you and make your life a living kill? What kind of a man doesn't want that?

[B]

Katie?

[C]

Okay, this is a dream. California. This is a dream. By the way, for, for content purposes, I would love for her to become the governor of California. Just for content purposes. Rob every. We would every day come here and do a podcast prep. 80% would be by Kim Katie Porter. I. Forgive me for calling you Kim. It's Katie Porter. She's a legend. She's a sweetheart. She's amazing, and she's. She's mine. I mean, listen, a hall pass for this all day, baby. With that being said, guys, let me tell you what's so awesome with what's going on, okay? This week, for the last seven or eight days, we've been at the magic show in Las Vegas, and we're currently at Italy at the MICAM show, the Milan show, the show that everybody shows up. Louis Vuitton, Chanel, Hermes, everybody. And you know who was there this year? Future looks bright shoes. There. We sent Pete, Leo and Micheli went over there having a great time. Go ahead and give him an update on what's going on with these FLB shoes in Vegas at the magic show, as well as Mike and. Go ahead, Rob. I just can't, okay? By the way, you know what I'm wearing today? Clean again. Let me say this to you guys. I'm wearing my brown ones, okay? Future looks bright. Vinny's wearing his black ones, okay? From September 9th, when I tell you, from September 9th till today, I've only worn these shoes except for five days. That's all I wear. Five days, okay? And I love them. They're so comfortable. Every day. This is all I wear. For some of you guys that are asking questions about shoes. We haven't done a CTA for a couple weeks because it sells out every time we do them, okay? So if you haven't picked one up for yourself yet, go to the site, take a look at the shoe. Compared with all the other shoes, the Berlutis, the Ferragamos, the Zenias, the Gucci's. If you want a shoe that has the same, you know, foam, the. The foam technology in the bottom like the On Cloud or the Hokas. And then the look of a Zenya with the leather, genuine leather from Tuscany, Italy. And you want to combine the two together for a reasonable price while you can sit in a boardroom, put up your shoe on your knee, and it says, future looks bright and get the deal done. If you're that kind of a person, go to vtmerch.com place your order. 40 FLB ones we're excited about, by the way, whatever you do, do it fast because sizes go. I'll get messages, Pat. 11s ran out because that's what happens when we get the orders. It's 48 for one size, 82 for one size, 111 for one size, and they Go fairly quickly. If you. If you're like me, buy every color. Navy blue, black, brown and white. Enjoy them.

[D]

Can I give a quick plug?

[C]

Yes, go ahead.

[D]

So you gave us a pair very kindly. Vinnie, show up of the black flbs. You might recall a couple years ago, you bought me these feragamos.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Okay. I'm wearing them today, cuz, you know, with blue, you wear the white when I. And this, this is genuine. To hand to God. These are uncomfortable as hell, but out of respect and cuz I love the shoe, I wear them. I haven't got the white flbs yet. It's night and day. This versus hurting versus the. The black flbs, you know, I like wearing the black suit. Incredible.

[C]

I love it.

[D]

I had a guy named Daily in the office. Massive, massive influencer. He's like, everyone has these flbs. I go, what do you got? He goes, I got zinnias. And the flbs look similar to the. To the zenyas, the black pair.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And I go, how much you do drop? He goes, yeah, these are like 1500 shoes. I said, you spent $1500 on these shoes?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I go, bro, save that money. Flb it up. It's becoming a thing.

[C]

I love it, I love it, I love it. And by the way, if you're worried, you already know because you messaged me saying I've never had anything this comfortable before. Okay, all right, let's get right into it. First story, okay. First story that we want to get into is what's going on in Mexico. We're minding our own business. All of a sudden I'm getting bombarded with, literally, I mean, messages. Pat, look what's going on in Mexico. Let's look what's going on in Mexico. What is this? Just take a look at these videos. Take a look at this. Take a look at that. So apparently in Mexico. Let me go to the story to read so it'll take us right into it. Rob, what page is The Mexico Story?

[A]

26 and 27.

[C]

Page 26 and 27. Mexico's Most Wanted drug dealer El Mencho killed in military operation as violent clashes erupt across the country. Rob, is this the CNN clip or the ABC clip?

[D]

Abc.

[C]

Okay, go for it. Mexico's most powerful drug kingpin was killed

[B]

during a military operation.

[A]

Mexican officials say criminal groups burned cars

[C]

and truck to block roads across the country. The State Department is warning Americans to shelter in place. ABC's Melissa Dunn is near the border tonight.

[B]

Explosions erupting across Puerto Vallarta tonight. Black smoke seen rising over the resort city on Mexico's pacific coast. Mexico's military forces launching a daring operation to capture cartel leader Ruben N. Known as El Mencho. Multiple cars on fire in the streets. Mexican officials say during their operation, military personnel were attacked.

[C]

Several cartel members. Video of people running out of airports, a fire everywhere. Maybe show that. Just think about guys. Many of you have been to this airport before. I've been to this airport I don't know how many times. But if you haven't, just play the clip. Yeah, this, this is regular people. Even security's running, you know, it's when security's running, You have some of the stuff outside where it's all on fire. The entire city's on fire, you know? Yeah, go. This is the one, Costco. Check this out, folks. Ladies, start speaking in Spanish. There's even a recording of him on a call. Oh, yeah, okay. So things are nasty. A few things, Vinny, before I come to you. I'll come to you first and then, Tom, I'm going to come to you as well. On. On this El Mencho. His name is Nemesio Oseguara Cervantes. He used to be a local cop himself. He got arrested in the States, in America, I believe, in the 90s, if I'm not mistaken, for drug charges. Later deported to Mexico. Born in Michoacan. We have a lot of friends from Michoacan, but he was born in Michoacan. He's a leader of Jalisco's new generation cartel. CJNJ, CJNG. They rose in dominance in early 2000s when they broke away from the Mexican Sinaloa cartel. So they were part of it. U. S had a 10 million dollar reward bounty for somebody that catches them. I think Mexico had a multi million dollar bounty on catching them. And then they were known for the synthetic drugs like fentanyl and methamphetamine that they were selling. Obviously a very profitable situation that they had going on there. And then all of a sudden he gets killed. This is the phone call. Rob, is this the phone call that you have? There's a phone call that takes place, by the way, I send it to you. Those of you that speak Spanish, I just want you to know he's cursing non stop. So brace for impact. He's going to drop every single f bomb in the world you can think about. But this is him calling, having a conversation, Rob, if I'm not mistaken, with cops saying, what the hell are you guys doing? Go ahead, Rob.

[B]

Telling the police to back.

[D]

Don't you know who I am. Don't mess with me.

[A]

Sir.

[D]

Wow.

[B]

Yes, sir.

[C]

You already know what's up. This continues, by the way. This is a few minutes. You can pause it right there, Rob, because we're learning Spanish and not the right word. So, Vinnie, what's going on here? What are your thoughts? Because they typically talk about. The important part is if Sheinbaum, the president of Mexico, is in cahoots with the cartel. That's what a lot of people want to know. Is this a narco? State your thoughts.

[B]

I mean, we just heard a phone call of the recently deceased head of this freaking cartel calling the head of their police department and saying, I give you guys money. I know where 30 of you live. You know, by the way, he said, I'll kill your dogs. That means he will kill the wife, the kids. These people are freaking relentless. I've saw. I saw videos that were popping up on my X feed pad. I had to turn away because of the brutality there. These guys that you want to talk about ISIS and Hamas and all that. Yeah, Horrible as well. These guys aren't that far off. They had one guy taped to a tree and they're like. Like in Spanish, like, okay, you ready? Are you recording?

[C]

Blowtorch.

[B]

And blowtorch. And lit the guy on fighter. And they even had to shut the audio off because it's that bad. And it's kind of weird because now I'm tying in. Remember last week or the week before.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

El Paso shut down the airport because they said it was a balloon. I think it has something to do with these guys and flying drones around, but let's be. Let's just call it what it is. Like they. They designated Trump, designated them as terrorists. If the. If the president of Mexico, Shine blum, whatever her name is, she's scared of them and cooperating with them. I think this was a. Mind you, this was them. They took him out with the assistance of us. We're not claiming that we did everything, but we did coordinate, I think, with logistics and stuff like that for location.

[A]

Not our guys.

[B]

No, not our guys. And by the way, the number two is going to step up. But at the end of the day, I'm happy that they're starting to take this serious. The border is just an open turnstile that Mexico with China as well. But Mexico mainly is bringing in guns. They're bringing in drugs, they're bringing. There's sex trafficking, kids. And these are the guys. These are the guys. So when everybody. Because, you know, I guarantee you today you're Going to hear on all these shows, all these leftists are going to be like, oh, we're starting a new war. We're going to go in, we're trying to install this and install this, guys, they kill hundreds of thousands of Americans just with drugs alone. And now think about this. Americans are at Puerto Vallarta. My cousin Rumson, who was here last week, Pat, they were in Cabo a couple weeks ago for a month ago for the wedding. And I warned them, I go, bro, they're putting out threats towards Americans. Be careful. We talked yesterday, he was like, oh my God, I have friends that are there or are planning on going there. And it's just, it's a bad situation. And by the way, it's not going to get better. The number two guy has already started and made a video saying, what's up? Here we go, Tom. It's getting a bit bad, Tom.

[C]

By the way, Tom's perspective here is probably very important for everybody to consider because the next 48 hours, anything could happen. Go ahead, Tom.

[A]

So for all of us that are taking a look at this, we could talk about Trump and the FTO designation and all that went with it. We could talk about disruption to supply chain tourism and all that. We could talk about all that. I think there's a lesson here. And the lesson here is if you cut the head off the dragon, you better be ready with plan B. Who's going to step in behind it and to manage it. And when you take a look at Iran, that's what I think we need to be worried about. And perhaps that's why there's been this slow buildup of all the military and they're trying to get around to the, to the, to the table. Because you look over here, we haven't seen the confirmed deaths yet. There were deaths, there were deaths of citizens, there are deaths, almost certainly. There's been deaths of tourists down there, almost certainly for sure. The shooting through there, we just don't have reliable media or anybody that's down there that to cover it. But you cut the head off the dragon, Pat, you better be ready for the consequence. Look what happened. Saddam Hussein was found in a hole with license and the beard and he was just running for his life until they finally found him there and all the crazies swept in in Iraq. Now you see what's going on. This is a narco state. This is it. And by the way, 119. You know what that is, Pat? That's the number of days to the World cup event in Jalisco.

[B]

World Cup.

[C]

That's right, Tom, because it's your right.

[B]

Oh, no way.

[C]

You're right. It's all. America Finals is in at the Jets Stadium. But it's. And I saw that. I saw the video. I kept asking myself, why are we showing World cup event in Jalisco? Would you.

[B]

Would you want to play or hold an event?

[D]

As.

[B]

Hold on. As an American, would you as a president, you let Americans go. We're targets right now.

[C]

Are you kidding me? They know that America is playing that game. Who is? Which game would be in Jalisco?

[B]

Oh, man. Yeah, I'm good, bro. Oh, free tickets, front row. No, I'm good.

[A]

Right now you have a power vacuum. And you're going to have two things in a power vacuum, Pat. A war among those who want to be number one. And then whoever steps up, he has to assert power. That is how it works in gangs. That's how it works in cartels. You're going to have two or three guys, Pat, that are fighting to be number one, even if there's a designated number two, because there's an opportunity here and there have been alliances with the cartels. Then you're going to find out he has to do something ruthless. Kaiser Sosey to establish his power. That's the way this work.

[C]

By the way, if this continues, the FIFA president, he is not a joke. He will cancel the games in Jalisco, move it to a different place in no time. This is horrible to the city. Imagine how many small business owners were relying on that game. Yeah, he will cancel and move to a different place.

[A]

Infantino.

[C]

Yeah, he will move it to a completely different place. He's the one that gave that award to the president. Having to do with peace. I don't know if you remember that he gave some kind of an award, the FIFA Peace Award to the president, November 2025. Yeah, the FIFA Peace Prize that he gave. Yeah. And so I'm looking at it. It's going to be one of the 32 matchups. So it could be anybody. It could be anybody. A major Latin American power. You know, it's most likely going to be Argentina, Brazil, Mexico. Some of those can cause you a

[B]

question, though, because I just saw. Rob, can you put that. Of the. The President Scheinblum of Shine, Bloom, whatever her name is, from Mexico. For. For the president to say using force against cartels would violate human rights. War on narco, not an option. It's clear to anybody that's paying attention that she's obviously connected with them. But My question is this. Well, guys, here's the thing.

[A]

Stand that. Stand there. What is the difference with her saying that and what that cop was saying to elementary? Not that there's no difference.

[C]

There's no difference.

[B]

So, in fact, I want to ask you this.

[A]

You get them off us.

[B]

Yeah. I want to ask you guys this question. We get involved with. With wars all around the world, you know, maybe Iran, Iraq, you name it. These people are touching our freaking Texas southern border. Do you think that this calls for something? And I can care less what anybody else thinks. Like this is gonna have to get. Like this isn't gonna stop. Are you okay with surgical attacks? Boots on the ground. You have to. Guys, you have to get them out root and stem. You can't just keep killing the head guy because, trust me, there's so many of them.

[C]

By the way, you know. You know. You know what that does is what you're saying right there? That's the. Is this a time to intervene or not to intervene?

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[C]

So.

[D]

But.

[C]

But the. But the part about to the. To the hundred percent isolationist mentality does not work.

[B]

I don't.

[C]

This is the part where why Rubio is kind of going like this and he's coming up to say, look, it depends. The answer is always what it depends.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So if we're neighbors and this is coming through to us, what do you want to do? So what do you do in a situation like this, Rob? Maybe play this clip and then. Adam, I'm coming to you. Go ahead, Rob.

[A]

What?

[C]

No esoption Primero del marco de la. Do you feel safer for the people that live in Mexico listening to your president speak like this?

[B]

Can I ask a question?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

If what would in the United States of America, the cartel narcos be? I mean, because they're drugs and they're. They're savages or maniacs. Let's say the kkk. Let's say we killed one of the head guys of the kkk and now this guy. This guy is out right now. It's sending. All his people are burning down. Costco's shooting cops doing all this. How would we respond? How would you respond? They're. They're terror. We go after them, and you got to get rid of all of them. Isolation.

[D]

Sound like Bibi Netanyahu?

[B]

No, no, I'm sorry.

[A]

The Mexican security forces are outgunned here.

[B]

No, no, no, he's right. Adam, time out. Time out.

[A]

Vinny, finish your point.

[B]

No, you're right. You make it because you made a great point. The narcos out, man. And outgun the actual police and their military. So now what are we supposed to do? Sit back? They're going to kill Americans if they haven't already killed them. You can't now sit there, help take out the number one guy and sit here like, all right, guys, figure it out. No, no, There's Americans there. There's people there. But, like, you have to help at this point. You can't go in there.

[A]

They attacked police squads and police buildings. That's what we've seen it. We don't have the inside coverage. We don't have the full story, but we saw videos. They attacked and burned a police station. So they went straight to the headquarters.

[B]

It's like, tom, they're murdered, Tom. They're doing. They're pulling up. They're driving around. And I've seen the videos. They're shooting all of them. They're shooting cops. Look at. By the way, look at these guys. Guys, do you. You think this is military? This isn't military guys. This is a freaking cartel. They look better than. Dude, I have a Call of Duty character that looks like.

[C]

Is that cartel?

[B]

That's cartel saying, we're coming. What do you want to do? Let's go. That's them.

[C]

Play the audio, Rob. Play the audio. Tom, can you translate?

[B]

Your mother likes me.

[C]

I don't.

[B]

Arming up and saying, here we go. And I'm sorry, all the isolationists aside, this is. This is serious. And Trump has been saying this for how long? They're not sending their best. They're not. These guys are freaking. You think I saw a video. I saw a video and I had. Again, I had to turn away. They. On their own people. They caught a guy. The narcos caught a guy that I guess was stealing money from them. They tied him to a tree while he's still alive. They cut open his chest and they took his heart out, and he's still alive. This is brutality, bro. You don't mess with these people and you just walk away.

[C]

How bad does this affect Mexico's tourism business? For how long? Like, by the way, you know what I'm thinking right now? I don't know if we're gonna go to Mexico the next five years as a family.

[B]

Absolutely not.

[C]

That thought is gone. Right? But I wonder, like, who is even thinking about right now? There's a girl that did a video saying, I'm sorry, honey, you're worried about losing your $200 flight and your $2,000 hotel ticket. We're here. Shit's going down right now. People are getting killed. I'm not worried about your flight and your hotel that you had booked. She's talking. Yeah.

[B]

People that have to cancel their plans.

[A]

Well, Tulum, they've been telling people. Am I correct, Adam? And Tulum, for a year, they've been telling us tourists to be very careful, specifically in Tulum. So this has been percolating in the background with danger to tourists. Yeah.

[D]

Well, if you are questioning whether we need a border, building a wall, well, here's example one. You brought up Trump. What was the first thing? He came the escalator down and says, they're not sending their best, you know. You know, the whole thing. Trump was right about everything. Well, this is numero uno to me, the me gente out there. So if you're going to subscribe to the Don Row doctrine and in the Western hemisphere, priority numero uno is securing the southern border so we don't have Mexico creeping in to the United States. And then up top in Canada, you know the song that goes? Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right. Here I am, we have narco terrorists to the south of us. We have Hamas sympathizers to the north of us. Here I am stuck in the middle with you. The point is, we live in the greatest country in the world, and everyone here is like, oh, you know, ice killed one person. Oh, my God. We see what's going on in Iran. We see what's going on in Mexico. We see what's going on in Europe. Like, you have to be an absolute idiot to not understand how great America is. You know, I brought up, you know, Pat, do you remember months ago, I was like, do you know that eight of the top ten most dangerous cities in the Western hemisphere are in one country? It's called Mexico. So I have. There's. I have no interest in going to Mexico at all. All my friends, they go to Cancun, they go to Tulum, they go to all these wonderful cities in Mexico. I go, dude, just go to Miami. You want to go to see Cuba, go to Little Havana. You want to go see Venezuela, go to Doral. You want to go visit people in Haiti, go to Little Haiti. Come to Miami if you want beaches. Unfortunately, if you want to see Somalia, you got to go to Minnesota for that. But we live in the greatest country in the world. We live in the best state in the world. We live in the best city in South Florida in Miami. And this is what happens In Mexico, when you take out a narco terrorist, a drug dealer, this is how the country acts. No, thank you.

[B]

And they caught, you know, they caught his son too. There's a video of his son on a helicopter, shirtless, head down, and they're pushing and he keeps trying to look out the window. So they captured him. I mean, they killed him and they got his son. So it's going to be a very,

[D]

I don't know how many sons he has, but this guy, El Mencho. So I don't know what El Mencho stands for, but if I'm just gonna say the Mensch. The Mensch, ironically, in Judaism means the most upstanding, incredible human of all time, the Mensch. But the Mensch's son apparently is sentenced to life in prison, serving time in D.C. you can fact check that his brother that goes by the name of Tony Montana, like from Scarface. He, Antonio, he's now apparently running the show over here. But only in Mexico.

[C]

What is this?

[B]

See the guy with the shirt with his head down? Yeah, that's allegedly.

[A]

That's him.

[B]

That's them with the sun. And he's. Look how nervous the pilot looks.

[D]

By the way, only in Mexico can you grow up the head down.

[C]

Is the son his son elementary. That's his son that they kind of.

[B]

His other son, I think, I think that's our, that's their guys, their military.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

It says Mexico on his.

[C]

Mexico has a son.

[B]

That's from what I.

[C]

That's, that's. That helicopter could get shot down.

[B]

Oh my God, look how nervous he looked. Look at that face.

[C]

Reason it doesn't. Because son is there. So yeah, they're saying the next three that could replace him are. Ricardo Ruiz Velasco, who is one. He is a Mexican cartel figure identified as senior commander in Jalisco New generation cartel. He's one. The other one is audios Flores Silva and he's also alleged high ranking figure in the same gang, one of the most powerful gangs out there, also born in Mitra Khan. And then you have Juan Carlos Valencia Gonzalez, another high ranking guy. So One of those three they're saying could take over the US department has $5 million for information leading to his arrest. This guy here, Juan Carlos Valencia Gonzalez. So it'll be interesting what happens there. But as we continue and we move on, Iran situation is escalating very, very quickly. Everybody's asking is it going to happen today, is it going to happen tomorrow, is it going to happen this, by the way, would it be true? Would it be Unlike Trump, to do it while he's given a State of the Union tomorrow night, Tuesday night, can you imagine? He's given a speech and all of a sudden, boom, the attack takes place. And at the end, he says, by the way, check your phones. Iran has officially been this. We have Khamenei, we have this. We have that. They may or may not. It's a little bit too risky. But when you're looking at what type of. Did you see to be the B52, the. Which bomber was it that was flying in? Rob? There was a bomber that was flying in. I mean, every. They're literally selling everything over there.

[A]

Another picture, talking about, that's our B2s,

[C]

the B2 bomber that went over there. Zoom in a little bit, Rob. Yeah, the B2 bombers, that. Where did it go to, though, when it went to somewhere in the Middle east that it was seen. So at any point, anything could happen there. Let me go to the store here and we'll kind of read through it. Which one should we go to, Rob, what page do we have the Iran News?

[D]

That would be page 18 and 19.

[C]

Page 18 and 19. Okay. So Iran regime squares off against student protests in the streets of Tehran. Death to Khamenei. So they're now saying that to Khamenei in Iran, which is the complete opposite of debt to America, the students are now wanting debt to Khamenei. Go ahead, Rob, if you want to play this clip, This is Wall Street Journal reading this story with Iranian students. Protest as anger grows. FYI, this is kind of exactly what happened with Khomeini back in the days when Muhammad. They were doing the same exact type of protest. And, Rob, is this the one from Wall Street Journal?

[D]

It's just one of them, yes.

[C]

Okay, got it. So this leads to the Telegraph story. Trump could kill Ayatollah's son and senior mullahs to topple Iranian regime. Tom, what do you think is going to happen here?

[A]

So I think this is going to be surgical, and I think they've got it planned. They've got the build up there. And I. And I think Witkoff said something over the weekend. He said, you know, they're not. They're not cooperating anymore in discussions. And Witkoff also said, I really fear that they do have the enrichment capabilities. And Witkoff has never said that. I went back and looked at Witkoff. Witkoff doesn't put these little things out there like that. This is not his style. This is not the way he did it. So for him to be Saying, I believe that they have the ability to enrich the uranium. We've been trying to talk to them. They're not.

[D]

They're.

[A]

They're no longer talking forthrightly. So when I see that, you know, we're giving them the opportunity. We've. Witkoff's there, Rubio is behind the scenes. We're trying to get them to do the right thing, but we want the transition. We don't want to have Crazy 2 as a sequel to Crazy 1. So I think what's about to happen here, you can't allow the enrichment, but you got to have a plan for succession. That's the issue, Pat. Those two things is what they're juggling. You got to have a plan, you got to get rid of the enrichment, you got to go after the facilities, but then you got to have a plan for succession. And if you. You. It's. And I think they're doing everything they can to do both at once. And they're going to be pushed to the wall where I think they have to just go in and take care of the enrichment and just say, hey, don't f around, because you. You look at those people. Yeah. Romania is not polling well with the citizens there. And unfortunately, we just have polls and elections here. They'll have polls and coups. So I think it's coming, and I think it's hours away, not days away. I think it's hours, yeah.

[C]

Yesterday, Mario Nefal reported something from a different ex. That was saying, Iran is now coming up saying, we're willing to negotiate anything and everything. You know, what is it you want? If you want to extend the, you know, nuclear development, if you want us to do this, we're open to it. Just remove us from the sanctions. Now they're coming out saying, no, no, let's negotiate. Because apparently the last time, when Witkoff and Kushner went there to negotiate, I don't know if you heard what happened at the end. At the end, they're like, no, we're good. They walked out. No, no, no, no, no, no. This is it out. No more negotiation. They came, they made their offer. There was discussion. They said, there's nothing else to discuss. They left, which means an attack is what a lot of people think is imminent. Rob, is this a recent clip?

[A]

Yes, this was Friday from the president.

[C]

What does he say in this clip here?

[D]

Tells the Iranian people, time to negotiate a fair deal.

[C]

They're not going to be doing that.

[A]

That's what he said on Air Force One.

[C]

I don't even Think they want to. I don't think we. They. Trump's team wants to negotiate. I think they're done. I think they're past it. I think the whole, you know what it changes if they do negotiate with them? What, what quote is officially out the window? If they negotiate with them, what quote is out the window? A quote that's been used for decades. Go ahead. That it's out the window.

[B]

Yeah, you're right.

[C]

If you negotiate, guess what's going to happen? 2028. I'm sorry, weren't you guys the party that said you never negotiate with a terrorist party?

[A]

Yep.

[C]

And you did. You negotiated with them. So now what? What are you going to be doing now? So there is a report yesterday that came up, you know, that they're willing to come up and do something with them, but apparently nothing's been happening yet. Adam, your thoughts?

[D]

Yeah, I don't see this ending well for anybody. Tens of thousands of people have already died and I expect if something happens, it could get way worse. By the way, how brave are these protesters in Iran after knowing that their brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, family, parents, kids, all tens of thousands, were murdered by the regime and then they went out and protested again. Is that what's going on here?

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Imagine that. Put yourself in these protesters shoes. They killed all their friends and they're coming back two weeks later basically saying, no, we can't stand for this. There's the most daylight in the world between the most brutal regime and the people that want freedom exists in Iran. So number two, follow the money. How much money are we spending to have a fleet out there in the middle of the ocean in the. What sea is it that the Persian Gulf? What city is it? Okay, the Persian Gulf. How much money are we spending if Trump doesn't do anything? We just spent billions of dollars to what, show force? So in my opinion, this something's got to give here. Last but not least, follow the money. The economy of Iran is crumbling. I mean, they're already one of the worst countries in the world when it comes to the misery index, which basically tracks what, unemployment and inflation. The people have nothing to live for at this point. The economy is in shambles. Half the people don't want to follow this ridiculous ideological religious regime. And they're just basically saying, please come help us. Now, Trump, you've said that help is on the way. So what are you doing, President? Because in my opinion, this 88 year old Ayatollah dude, he'll die a martyr, no problem. The question is who's going to come replace him? Well, so we'll see.

[B]

But, I mean, it's easier said than done, Adam. And I think Tom made a great point, and we've said it last week. Who's going to. Who's going to take his spot and who is the military going to listen to? Because those same people that we saw videos that they're driving. Bro, you're not. We're not seeing a sliver of what's actually happening. What I've heard from people that have family there, Adam, they're shooting them in the streets and they're driving over them. I did see one video, I think me and Pat did, where when a civilian finally was like, you know, the hell with it, and there was IRGC running in the street and he was running them over. Well, just. It's a very difficult situation because. Okay, and look what's happening in Mexico. You take out the main guy, then what the. This is a huge thing that people are looking over. Don't get me wrong, Adam. I'm not an isolationist in this. In the sense that if your whole thing is death to America, not death to Adam. Vinnie. Florida, America. You know what that means? Everybody that's in this country, if they were dead, they'd be happy. Them is fighting words, okay? So if you want the smoke, you're going to get it. But when I say it's hard, because you can't. Adam, think about this. Tom's the main guy. Tom's Khomeini. You take him out. We're generals, all of us.

[C]

Who.

[B]

Who you think we're going to listen to? Whoever the. The Israel or the United States.

[A]

Wait, wait. Which one of you decides it's going to be number one?

[B]

That's what I was.

[A]

You two generals talk to each other. I'll be number one. I have all the forces of the south. I have the forces of the north. It's like Pat was just talking about the list of cartel people waiting to flow in. You think those guys are going to play nice with each other?

[B]

Hell, no.

[A]

Every one of those wants to next mention.

[B]

I love it because you took the words out of my mouth. You don't think. Adam, you don't think you're going to be like, wait, who. Who are you to. Who said that you're going to be in charge? No, but the US Said that Pat's going to be in charge.

[A]

You'll be dictator today, I'll be dictator tomorrow.

[B]

No, Adam.

[A]

So.

[B]

And I get it. Something needs to be done. But I mean, Ships are on the move. I saw the USS Was it Ford? Tom, Gerald Ford is in the. It's. We're positioning this up.

[C]

Can you pull out what I just texted you, please? So this is very interesting from what Mario Nefala's reporting from Visionary. Rob, if you can pull. This is about geopolitics. If you pull up, take a look at what they're doing here with this. So three area refuelers all taking off from Japan are now cruising at low refueling altitudes and doing the aviation equivalent of tiptoeing through the house at 3am Avoiding every national airspace. Like the old countries, money refuelers don't do this unless they're babysitting someone important. Which brings us to the four B52 sitting in Guam. The flying sledgehammers of U. S. Foreign policy possibly rolling out for little unscheduled travel in the direction of Diego Garcia, America's favorite. We're saying, we're not saying we're preparing for something, but we're preparing for something.

[D]

Island.

[C]

Okay, so when you see all of this stuff going on, you know it's an Adam to go and say that he promised he's going to do it. That's what a lot of Iranians are saying. Hey, you made the promise. You made a promise. But he never said I was going to do it on your terms. By the way, here's John Kiraki, the CIA officer who was the whistleblower on what do you call a waterboarding many, many years ago. He did time for that. Here's what he had to say just a few days ago on Friday. Go ahead.

[A]

I have a friend, former CIA officer who was at the White House this morning talking to his friends and he says that a decision has been made to attack Iran on Monday or Tuesday. The president yesterday gave the Iranians 10 days to, to, you know, accept our

[D]

proposals for an end to their ballistic

[A]

missile program and then to. To their uranium enrichment program and then to supporting groups in the Middle east

[D]

like Hamas and Hezbollah and the Houthis.

[A]

But he's done this before. Well, he'll give you 10 days, he'll give you two weeks and then he'll just attack two days into it. He thinks that that keeps people off balance. And so he said that there are battle lines, that the anti war forces are JD Vance and Tulsa Gabbard.

[C]

He said that the pro.

[A]

That's it. That's it. He said the pro war people are led by Marco Rubio and include Pete Hegseth and now the Joint Chiefs of Staff. And I stopped him on that point this morning.

[D]

And I said, wait a minute.

[A]

I said, during the Iraq war, at the start of the Iraq war, the most stridently anti war component was the Joint Chiefs of Staff. They were always the last ones that wanted to attack because they know what war is.

[D]

And he said, ah, but you forget,

[A]

Trump has replaced all of the Joint Chiefs this year, this past, in the

[C]

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[A]

Well, first of all, every president is going to have his own cabinet, his own appointments. You know, everybody that's flipping out over the FCC and equal time provision forgets that. You know, Biden had his FCC person, now Trump got his FCC person and it's a policy. Their implementers of policy. He's the commander in chief. He will appoint the joint chiefs that he gets along with. You have Biden who was commander in chief and he was appointing joint chiefs and then generals that were more interested in in skirts trans and making the military into something else than they were in national defense. So it does not surprise me that the Joint Chiefs would think different to his point there. And I also believe what they're saying. You know, I don't think Rubio is a war hawk. Here come the comments. Oh, you don't understand. No, I don't think he's war first, but I think he recognizes what has to be done here. And you know, do I think the cabinet split? Yeah, because you know what, I think Trump's got people in that cabinet that have a little tension with each other that don't necessarily agree with people. And I think, you know, you value that as a leader, that you get perspectives in the room. Everybody tells you you're right all the time. Then the day you're wrong and they're still telling you you're right, you're naked. So I, Adam, I hope what he's saying is has some truth to it.

[D]

I don't know about his information or credibility. That's not what I'm worried about. Who I do trust are the Iranian people saying, so we're all worried about who's going to be the next person up. I'm not worried about that.

[B]

Why not?

[D]

Because what are the Iranian people are asking? Are they shouting? Who's the next person that will be figured out? The, the by the way, in Miami, I've spoken to not 10, not 15, hundreds of Venezuelans. Every single one was like, dude, I don't care what happens next. Thank God we got done with Maduro. Every single person I know that is pure blooded, loves Iran, Persian lives in America and all over the world. They're yes, they're going to figure out who they want next. They're saying, let's get done with this guy. Nothing changes. If nothing changes. You have to take out the figurehead, the leader, the supreme leader. If he doesn't go, nothing changes. So we can debate who's next, who's the next person up. We have the convenience of doing that in our lovely studio in Fort Lauderdale, the people of Iran are calling for a change. Let's listen to them.

[B]

No, hold on. And I agree with the. Listening to them and whatever, but, yeah, we could be in a studio, but we have to be smart in that. Adam, if you take out that head and another guy just like him comes in, everything that those people have been

[D]

fighting for, that, if they thought about that. Well, Adam, give our military a little bit of credit. Credit. They're not like, what, we gotta get a new leader. Look what they did in Venezuela. They basically took out the leader, Maduro. And they're like, yeah, you work for us now. Home.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

The President of Venezuela is Marco Rubio.

[B]

So why is this?

[D]

So you don't think they have something planned?

[B]

I'm not saying they don't. I'm saying why is it taking so long? You know why? Because I guarantee you, the person that they.

[C]

So long.

[D]

It's been 47 years.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no, no. You think this thing happens overnight to the point of when he said, help is coming and I'm going to help you. Why hasn't. Because the Venezuela thing happened, by the way. This has been going on for the entire administration. Why didn't he come in, Adam? Because I guarantee you the person. Hold on, let me finish. Is totally different, obviously. But the person that they call is

[D]

a small puppy compared to a. Adam,

[A]

you brought up Venezuela. Let him finish, Adam. Let him finish.

[B]

Because you can't. Venezuela doesn't chant death to America, doesn't have all the military, everybody trying to kill us. That's all completely different situation. Venezuela was easy, small, and now you're talking about Iran and you're talking about people that want to kill all of us. So, yeah, it's a whole different situation.

[D]

What's your solution?

[B]

My solution is. I don't know what their solution is. Because they obviously had a leader. They obviously had a leader in mind. He obviously is not the guy. Trump even said about Reza Pahlavi. He's not the guy.

[C]

You're not the guy.

[D]

So what do you want to do with Ayatollah Khamenei?

[B]

Let's stay there, Adam. Let's get him. Let's put him in jail forever. Who's taking his.

[D]

Like another six months, Adam. Who's.

[B]

Adam? Who's taking his spot since you know so much and we're sitting in the studio. Point is, in beautiful Florida, whoever it

[D]

is, is it going to be worse than this clown?

[B]

Says who?

[A]

How do you know?

[D]

The people shouting, death to Khomeini. How about that? Okay, how about those people?

[B]

Adam, It's. It's.

[D]

Are you not. Hold on, let me just be very clear. Are you not listening to the protesters and what they're asking for?

[B]

Are we not paying attention to the 40,000 that have.

[A]

40,000?

[D]

What is the two words? They're saying?

[B]

Help us. We need help.

[D]

They're saying.

[B]

Yes, they are. They want help.

[D]

What is magma? Khomeini.

[C]

Marik. Bad Khomeini. Death upon Khamenei.

[D]

Okay, so that's what they're shouting.

[B]

One protest.

[D]

I don't speak Farsi. One protest.

[B]

That was a protest.

[D]

How many protests are shouting those two words? A lot.

[C]

It's. So it's not their number one goal. It's hundreds. They're done with that. By the way, I want to show you something here. Iranian foreign minister says US Deal is still quite possible. What's the date? When was February 22? Yesterday. Yesterday. Meaning. Hey, hey, it's still possible. Give us a call. Witkoff and Kushner is like, no, we're good. We're out. Then put the other one up. Rob, you're the tweet I sent you Iran. US Talk stories that Iran offered to ship out half of their uranium after years of will never stop in Richmond. They're negotiating how to get rid of it. What happened? U. S. Envoy Witkoff on tv. Why hasn't Iran capitulated? Iran's foreign minister? Because we're Iranian. Iran also hinted they'll negotiate on Hezbollah. Hamas missile still off limits. So listen, they're. They're grad. You know what this is, though, Vinnie? Here's where it's at. My take, my take. Sometimes, you know, you negotiate with somebody and you'll make an offer. You know they're going to say what to no to. Because guess what you want to do.

[B]

Give them a different option.

[C]

No, you want to attack because you. You already know your mind is made up. Do you really think this entire time US Wanted to negotiate with Iran? Do you really believe they were convinced that you could negotiate with Iran? Do you know what would happen the moment they brokered a deal? Guess what they would do the next day? You know what highlight reel would be showing up? What do you think the highlight will be showing up of When? OBAMA the $150 billion Iran. And hey, all the Republicans that said don't go negotiate with them. And look what you did. Obama, you are officially Obama. So don't criticize Obama. That's what I would do if I was on the Other side. That's what I would do. If I was CNN playing those clips, I'd be showing that clip the entire time. I'm convinced this entire time, they've known 90% where they stand. I think the President and his team, from six months ago to today, their position on Iran has changed 5 to 10%, not 38% position, that change 5 to 10%. What they end up doing here with this. What happens afterwards? Tom said it in the back and he said it again here. What happens when you take out El Mencho? What happens to Jalisco? What happens to Mexico? It's chaos. What's going to happen if you take out. What do you call it? Bless you. What happens if you take out Khamenei and his sons and his people? There's only one big difference. You know what the big difference is? Here's a big difference. Massive difference in Mexico. The difference is El Mencho and his group, cjng, they had bought. All the cops were here. It's us coming in and we're not bought by Iran. It's not like they're doing. It's the other way around where it's like, hey, you guys better do what we're doing. I think they are shivering and the Iranian people are supporting it in Mexico. What a shine bomb. The president say, no, leave it alone. Don't come here. So I don't know the rule of law. The rule of law. I think the world would be a better place with Iran toppling. Who replaces. They asked a question. Laura Trump asked the question from Witkoff. Rob. I don't know if you have that one. When the name Reza Pahlavi came up and he says this is not a Reza Pahlavi

[B]

issue.

[C]

Go ahead, Rob, if you want to play this clip, go ahead.

[B]

Well, there's that pressure. There's also pressure.

[C]

Audio super low. So you got to raise from their own people, obviously, we've seen these major protests going on within the country. The exile Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi has

[B]

also, also laid out pretty clear steps

[C]

as to how a transition of power might occur over there. In his eyes, has he been part of any of this? Have you guys had any conversations with him?

[A]

Well, I've met him at the direction of the President.

[D]

I actually, you know, it's public.

[A]

It's.

[C]

It's out there. I think he's strong for his country,

[A]

cares about his country. But this is going to be president about President Trump's policies, not Mr. Palavis policies. I think the president is interested in hearing everyone's views. He has no pride of authorship is maybe the best way for me to say, which I greatly respect because he's

[C]

open to new ideas and new ways of thinking to move to Europe. There you go. So that, that's what did he say? Essentially he say, look, I met with them. The president has number Witkoff did and he said this is public info, but this is not a Trump issue. This is not a pal Hevy issue. This is Trump's decision on what's going to be happening. I think the way it's looking like right now. Rob, can you find out when is Venezuela's next election? When is Venezuela's next election? When is Venezuela's next election? Let's see what the date is. Is it six months from now? Three months from now? Two months from now? When is their next presidential election? Because to me, wow, unless there's a political crisis, there's no constitution in six years. The last one is done in 2020 based on it. So, okay, so that means. So you know what that means. If it's in 2030, who the hell is in office in 2030? Who's President 2030? We don't know. So how the hell do you control the point of contact, Tom, with that?

[A]

Well, they have one caveat. Venezuelan law allows early election if there's an absolute absence of president, death, resignation,

[D]

removal, extraction, by the way, which could

[C]

trigger a new vote within 30 days. Hasn't happened. How long has it been? When, when was the Venezuela, when they took Maduro, what date was that? Was it December 20th? I don't know what date it was. But this year, Was it this year?

[D]

Was it January? When is it?

[C]

What, what day did they take?

[D]

So much that happened. I forgot that.

[A]

So they could call 1 6. They wanted Pat they could gather.

[C]

Who's they?

[D]

When was that?

[A]

Well, the Venice, the Venezuelan equivalent of Parliament and Congress. But right now you've got January 3rd.

[D]

Happy New Year, Maduro.

[C]

So, so it's been a month and a half. So then, so then that means if they take out Khamenei, if they take out position, if they take out all the people in Iran, how quickly will you have an election to replace it?

[D]

That's election in Iran.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Can I ask you a question on that?

[C]

Go for it.

[D]

Election around seems like an oxymoron because let's look at case examples. Right, so what other what are the free democratically elected rulers or countries in the Middle East? I got one. Israel. Any other Middle Eastern countries that practice democracy? We've seen what happens when we try to implement our world view over there, it gets real ugly. So you have three options. Correct me if I'm wrong. You have supreme leader vibes, which is this complete theological theocratic Shiite regime, which they seem to be done with. You have king or ruler, which was the shah, or you have democracy. In my opinion, you have to go the Middle version. They're done with the Shiite ruler, and there's zero case examples that democracy will work in the Middle East. We could wish for it. We could love it. Yes, you're going to be just like America. I don't know if that's possible there. So maybe you need a temporary shah, whether it's Reza Pahlavi, whatever it is. But there's no evidence in the last 50 years that a democracy can work in the Middle East. You tell me, am I right, am I wrong? Thoughts on this? Pbd?

[C]

Well, no. The argument of people saying, you know, let them have an election, let them choose their president. Then if you take what the position you're saying this isn't about, let it fall and let's see who takes over the way you're thinking. If they think the way you're thinking, they already have in mind who's going to take over to lead Iran. You understand what I just. Yeah, of course you understand what I'm saying.

[D]

It's a mystery riddle in a quagmire. We don't know.

[C]

Do you think the administration knows what they want to do, or do you think the administration is also saying, let's just do the job and see what happens next?

[D]

Sadly, I think there's a part that's like, guys, we don't know what. That's just horrible. Okay. Of course, we learned when we went into Afghanistan and Iraq that we don't know Sunni, Shiite, Alawite. Who's this? What's going on? Hezbollah. Are they for our friend? Hezbollah is now working. They're friends with these people, the proxies. It's so messy out there, and it's so tribal out there. We have no clue what we're doing. But we know this one thing. Magba, Ayatollah. We know that.

[C]

Vinny, go ahead. What do you think? Do you think they know what happens after? I don't. They get. They execute their mission.

[B]

Everybody's attitude is like, adams, which I understand, just get rid of the bad guy that's doing all the problems on the chaos. But it doesn't work that way. It's. You have to, dude. And I keep saying it the Besides the people, God bless them, they need it. The military and the people that are running everything, it's so important. You can't just pluck them out. That's like somebody coming, taking Pat out. The board getting rid of Pat, and a new CEO comes in and they're like, they have different ideas, different things. It doesn't work like that. Or they even have a CEO. Or the new CEOs gonna kind of be like Pat, but he's gonna have different agendas. No, bro, this is. This is so hard. That's why I think it's taking so long, because they don't know. They don't know. I'm all for it. Khomeini, death to America. The way he treats the women, the way he treats his people, the way he kills the people and the way the military is doing it, shame on them.

[A]

I agree with you. And we've seen this in election. You see it in free countries election. It's when the public is fed up, the voters are fed up, and all of a sudden the voters do this. Anything but this.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And guess what? That's how Mamdani got elected in New York. Affordability, rent problems, things that are happening in New York. And the. The middle class and the. The left side of it took enough independence with them. And Mandami gets elected on anything but this. I'll give you free buses. I'll make the buses free. I'll give you free grocery stores. I'll make this free. Because in the face of everything and the voters do it. We saw it happen here. What the people over there are saying is, I am willing to protest. And they are brave souls right now saying, I am willing to protest, even though I know what has happened to 30 to 40,000 of my countrymen. I am going out in the streets. I am going to go here, and I. We want you to cut the head off the snake. We want anything but this. And that's what you're seeing. And I think if there was a clear path, we already would have intervened. The nuclear part of it is for forcing our hand to move faster. And I agree with Pat. I don't think we've changed what we thought we said. Look, we're going to try and do this. We're going to try and talk. These guys are going to do it, but they're not going to do it. Ultimately.

[D]

We're.

[A]

We're going to have to push them. And when the. When the nuclear capability gets too close, you know what we got to do? We got to cut the Head off the snake. And I think that's right.

[B]

Think about it. You're talking about nuclear capabilities. You take Al Khomeini. Adam, who's running their nuclear program, we'll

[A]

give you half the uranium. Let me give you half of it.

[D]

Let me just be clear. You're kind of saying, just keep Khomeini there.

[B]

I did not say that.

[D]

Until we figure out a better option.

[B]

No, no.

[D]

So I'm trying to understand your point.

[B]

You have to have a. You have to have a plan in place before you take out a country's number one guy, or else nothing's going to change. You know what the difference is between us and them? Biden and his administration crapped on this country and tried to destroy us.

[D]

Us.

[B]

Tried to destroy us. Guess what we got to do? We got to go to the voting booth. And he won in. In an insane fashion. He won all the swing states. He won the popular vote. He won everything. They don't have that.

[C]

That.

[B]

That opportunity. They don't get to go vote. It's who's in charge and who's in charge. What I'm saying is, Adam, he needs to go. Yes. Why? It's taking so long. They don't have the guy. They don't have the plan. And I'm pretty sure outside forces are like, just take him out already. Just kill him. You can't do that without a backup plan.

[D]

I just have one last question. I know Pat wants me on. When you say taking so long. Trump's been in power for a year. Yeah. Okay. In this thing, this has been ongoing for how long, Pat? 47 years. Listen, if it was easy, we would do it already. This is a very hard thing to do.

[B]

Exactly.

[D]

Tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of people will die. So I'm actually gracious and grateful that they're actually taking their time and not going in like idiots, like George W. Bush did in Iraq and Afghanistan.

[B]

I agree.

[C]

All right, let's get to next story. Next story I want to get to is tariffs. Trump raises global tariffs to 15%. Obviously, we know what happened with Supreme Court ruling 6, 3 against the tariffs. The President tweeted something. Rob, if you want to pull that up. Truth social. Tom, I'm going to come to you first on this one here. The one on the lower case, Rob, that we had this morning, we were looking at. So here's the President, based on a thorough, detailed, and complete review of the ridiculous, poorly written, extraordinary anti American decision tariffs issued yesterday after months of Contemplation by the U.S. supreme Court Please let the statement serve that I, the President United States, will be effective immediately raising the 10% worldwide tariffs on countries, many of which have been ripping the US for decades without retribution until I came along to the fully allowed and legally tested 15% level. During the next short number of months, the Trump administration will determine and issue the new and legally permissible tariffs which will continue our extraordinary successful process of making America great again, greater than ever before. Thank you for your attention to this matter. President DONALD J. Trump Rob, there's another tweet as well that he did towards tariffs, if I'm not mistaken, that we were looking at this morning. No, not this one, not this one. Go back to that one. Let me see what it says right there. My new hero in the United Supreme Court is Justin Justice Brett Kavanaugh and of course Justice Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito. There is no doubt in anyone's mind that they want to make America great again. So you know what he's saying there, Tom, where are you at with this now after the announcement that was made last Friday was sudden, what's he saying here?

[D]

Rob this is where it calls out near Neil Gorsuch and Amy Coney Barrett.

[C]

Whether people like it or not, never seem to, never seems to happen with Democrats. They vote against Republicans and never against themselves almost every single time, no matter how good a case we have. At least I didn't appoint Roberts, who led the efforts to allow foreign countries that have been ripping us off for years to continue to do so. But we won't let it happen. The new tariffs, totally tested and accepted as law, are on their way. President DONALD Trump Tom, thoughts?

[A]

So a couple of things here. First of all, in the midst of the, in the midst of the cacophony, you had Rand Paul step up and said, look, we don't want a president to use executive order when the power of executive order isn't there because the precedent is when we have a liberal president or somebody from the other side, you're going to get stuff coming back the other way. We have to do this orderly. But Rand Paul is not necessarily, you know, anti tariff. So on one hand, I get it. I get that we don't want a, to use the executive order if there's not authority. However, on the other side, we have been doing nothing. And what President Trump showed was leadership on tariffs, which I agreed with. We got people to give us trade deals. We got people that come to the negotiating table and got things shifted that he's right for. We had decades, certain industries were at disadvantage and our own government didn't care about our own people in our own industries that were going through it. And Trump went out and did it. Now, what I don't like is the politicization with ignorance. And the politicization with ignorance is the Dems and the liberals that think, ha, ha, we stopped Trump. Wait, what did you stop? The tariffs have been working. There was not rampant inflation. CPI came out and it was 0.1, 2.3, and 2.4 year over year. You have to give a leader the ability to lead. And what's happening here is what's behind the scenes. The globalists and the liberals want this one world government. They don't want leaders to lead from a sovereign position. And so they're trying to stop him. But what you're seeing with Trump is he's trying to lead, and it's very tough for a leader to lead in a committee environment. And that's exactly what you have in government. And he's trying to sit down, get to certain points and push them. And so the Supreme Court decision disappointed me because I read it and I believe that there is executive order capability in the area of tariffs. They're saying no, but Scott Bessen has been saying for a year that they have other tools. To me, it's not that they have other tools to get it done. They're going to get it done for our economy. He's not going to give up. The issue is we've got liberals that think it's a good thing that you've incapacitated your leader from making good decisions for your country to right wrongs have been going on for decades, and you don't like him. So anything but him. That's the part that sickens me. Part that sickens me is no one is looking at the success we've had on trade, Pat. No one's looking at the success we've had negotiating with people. It's just anti Trump. And it. That's the part that just.

[C]

I want you to see this clip on a video. I'm coming to you. Go ahead, Rob.

[A]

Justices Fortune and Barrett, are you surprised in particular by their decision today?

[B]

And do you regret nominating them?

[C]

I don't want to say whether or not I regret. I think their decision was terrible. Yeah. I think it's an embarrassment to their families. You want to know the truth? The two of them? Yeah. He started soft. And in his mind he says, trump, go. It's an embarrassment to their families. So at first he was soft. Vinny, where do you stand well, I

[B]

mean, honestly, is anybody out there surprised? It's been an uphill battle, to say the least, from 2016 with Russia, Obama spying, fast forward all the way to shooting him, to even trying to win for America. And it's not like it's not working. How many billions and billions of dollars. We're freaking coming back. We're coming back, Pat. And it just drives me crazy that even when you try to say, tommy, Republican, what was it? It's like, enough already. Can we just. The guy's doing a fantastic job. Yeah, I have some criticizing points on some other stuff, but, like, what are we, what are we doing? It's working. We're respected. The money's starting to come in. Time you talked about the numbers with the percentages, and everything's coming back. It's like, like, give me a break. When is enough? When's it going to stop, Pat? When are they going to say, okay, listen, you're the president. We trust you at this point. Go, go do it. Let me see, let me see the, Let me see the breakdown. Let me see the case study. Oh, you made us $300 billion. Okay, keep doing your thing. They're respecting us. You understand what I'm saying?

[A]

Yeah. On April 1, the market goes down and then the market comes back all the way through the year comes back, consumer CPI comes out. There was not rampant inflation. Does. The liberals won't come to the microphone and say, oh, I'm sorry, I was wrong. I said there'd be rampant inflation because of its tariffs. It didn't happen. Oh, we got trade deals done for a number of industries. I said that would never happen.

[D]

Oh, wait.

[A]

Gosh, it's. It didn't. Look at this. There's a success on it that no one wants to talk about.

[C]

Here's, here's my concern with this is when your president that you voted for is in. You support executive orders, you know, whatever he wants to do. Right. When your president, the president you voted for. President voted for, you probably align with his ideas. What percentage say 90%. Okay. All right. So you want that go make decisions and remember, you can celebrate it when you're president until the other side gets elected.

[B]

Of course.

[C]

My, my biggest trust in the system and the Constitution came when I found out what the most powerful community is in D.C. and that's the Supreme Court. Of course, we learned this during COVID We learned this the last eight years. It's the most powerful. So check this out. Since 1700, 1789 or so 165 formal Supreme Court nominations have happened. How many of them you think got rejected that didn't make it? 165. How many didn't make it after the hearing, after the Senate hearing? 165. How many didn't make it?

[B]

165 got in.

[A]

Well, there have been a few. I mean, Bush had one that blew up. Okay, pull it back.

[D]

Merrick didn't make it.

[A]

Bork. Robert Bork got blown up.

[C]

How many you think out of 165, what do you think the number is? Is it high? Is it low? Is it.

[A]

I think it's probably 20.

[C]

I'll guess 20. 37 didn't make it through, right? That didn't make it through.

[D]

Basically there's a high bar.

[C]

So do you know why? Do you know why that's important to me? Because imagine if all of a sudden Kamala doesn't get any other job and they nominate her to be a Supreme Court. How do you think she's going to vote when it comes down to different ruling and, you know, off the ballot in Colorado, you have to really make sure this is not an evil person. I don't know what I'm saying. You have to really be thinking, so to me, a bigger part of this is more a 50 year thing than a short term. When I was with Rand Paul. Rob, if you want to pull up the interview with Rand Paul, how long ago was this when we were in

[D]

D.C. two weeks ago.

[C]

Was it two weeks ago? Three weeks ago.

[A]

Three weeks.

[C]

Watch this. Go ahead, Rob. Against us. I want him to have it. My concern is if Supreme Court takes that away from him, that power away from him, which he keeps bringing it up, which means they may do it, they may say no, and then we lose the revenue that we're getting.

[A]

Well, it's not a matter of taking it away from the Constitution is pretty explicit.

[C]

Taxes originate in the House, have to

[A]

go to the Senate. It specifically even mentions duties and levies.

[D]

It mentions tariffs in the Constitution, says

[C]

that they are in the prerogative of the House.

[A]

Even the Senate can't. We're not supposed to initiate tariffs. Only the House does. Comes to the Senate, goes to the President.

[C]

It is a tax.

[D]

A tariff is a tax.

[C]

And it never was the prerogative of the President. Now, some legislation has tried to give him that power, but what he's using

[A]

is something called ipa, which is an emergency legislation, and it doesn't mention anything about tariffs.

[C]

Do you think the Supreme Court's going to rule against them if they follow the law? They absolutely will rule against you. Got to be kidding me.

[D]

Yeah, because the law is explicit, and

[C]

so he will try to use other reasons for how he can use tariffs.

[D]

But it's also very chaotic.

[C]

I mean, you know, you can pause it right there. So this is Rand Paul saying this two and a half weeks ago when he said it. He says if they follow the law, they will rule against him. Thoughts?

[D]

Well, thank you for interviewing Rand Paul, because once he basically said that, I was like, oh, they're going to strike this thing down. Because in my opinion, you know, we need to make great again Congress. We need to make Congress great again. There was a time where Congress actually did their job, but we're living in such partisan times that they can't even do anything. So Trump has to do things like this. So if I'm a massive, massive MAGA Trump fan, here's how I'm thinking. Trump's doing the right thing. He's American, America, great again. We're going to impose reciprocal tariffs where they're going to pay. We've had, what, 2% tariffs in all these countries. We're putting it up. You know, he busted out that whole chart. I love my charts. You know, the EU, they're going to pay 39%. Vietnam, they're going to pay 90%. Taiwan, 64%, Japan, 46%, India, 52%. One by one by one by one, they were all paying 2%. So now he basically put it down to, what, 15% now? But Rand Paul's right, because what goes around comes around. And he said, to give this example, God forbid President Communist AOC shows up and wants to start implementing a socialist agenda, what then all the, the, the progressives are going to say, exactly. It's what we voted for. And all the people with common sense are going to be like, so I said on the last podcast, thank God this was 63 and not 5 4. Because Trump, of course, is attacking the. The judges that didn't side with him. But what's the, you know, Article 1 of the Constitution, all legislative powers are granted to the Congress of the United States. They have the power to make the laws, to declare war, which they haven't done since World War II, even though we've been wars all over the world, to levy taxes, which are basically tariffs, and to confirm judges, like you just mentioned, and cabinet members. So totally understand why Rand Paul, where he's coming from, because we respect the rule of law. He basically said, in defense of our republic. But I also understand why people are pissed. Trump's Doing the right thing. Trump's basically imposing these reciprocal tariffs. Unfortunately, nobody wants to say the quiet part out loud that this has costed the, the average American household about a thousand bucks per household. So, you know, you get what you pay for. You know, your wishful think Pritzker came

[C]

out and said send this cost average American 1700 bucks. Send them back $1700. Cut the checks. Here's, here's what, what's his name have to say? Rob, if you want to go to the Kevin o', Leary, go forward.

[B]

Great to see you.

[A]

So this has got to be a pretty big day in your world. What has the reaction been?

[B]

It's not a great day for me.

[A]

We were humming along nicely until this morning. Here's what's happening on the ground.

[B]

I know you've been talking about the

[A]

politics and the policy, but let's talk about a business making $100 million in sales.

[B]

It might have paid out 5 million

[A]

in the last 14 months on these tariffs. And they're in my portfolio. I got phone calls from our customers, from our lenders because we borrowed against

[B]

our line of credit and from our shareholders that we reduce distributions on during

[A]

this period, waiting to settle on the tariffs.

[B]

They all want their money back now to be compliant.

[A]

What am I supposed to do? I don't even know what, how this is going to get filed. It's going to be with treasury, not the irs. I assume I'm going.

[B]

So I'm going to try and get

[A]

a meeting with staffers, best of staffers, when I get to the State of

[C]

the Union next week to see if

[A]

they can give me some guidance because my head's getting squeezed from the top

[B]

and the bottom to be compliant.

[A]

And every business in America is going through this right now.

[B]

There are people that want their money

[A]

back within the distribution, shareholder and lender system. And for me, and I'm telling you

[B]

right now, you're the first to hear

[A]

it, I'm setting up a resource called WonderTrust.com hiring, if not hundreds, thousands of accountants and lawyers because I don't know how else to be compliant and I'm going to use them with my companies. We're just. What else are we supposed to do?

[B]

Because everybody wants their money back and I wish.

[A]

I don't know what the policy is

[B]

going to be on that.

[A]

It's not a great afternoon for me, to be honest with you. Do you feel like you.

[C]

Tom?

[A]

Well, you see the waterfall effect. Everything's got consequences. And so now what they're talking about is, is there going to be a tariff refund for all the companies that have paid for that, you know, that money. So in other words, let me translate tariff refund, folks. The government basically issues money. We used to say print money, but government just takes on more debt, pays everybody back on the tariffs. We take two steps back on balancing the budget. The can gets kicked down the road, and we are sitting there in a worse economic position. Long term, Trump is trying to turn the corner on this. There's so much to it. And, you know, Kevin o' Leary is right. You know, here he is an investor, he's trying to help companies be compliant with the laws and what they're going to do. And he's got some people that are screaming, I want my money back. And he's saying, well, then how do we do this? How do we hand it over? Washington doesn't know and doesn't understand what, what it's, what it's doing. The liberal side don't understand the impact they have on American businesses. Even though the Supreme Court has ruled the way Rand Paul thought they would rule on the rule of law. Tariffs are a tax, therefore, taxes only come from Congress. End of story. It's such a bigger issue here about leadership in America and allowing the President to govern. There was a time where we could come together across the aisle where Tip o' Neill would sit with Ronald Reagan in the Rose Garden and have lunch once a week and talk through things for the good of the country. Well, right now you have certain people that are worried about the good of the country, and it's conservative.

[C]

Yeah. You know, I said this to you this morning is. And I don't even know what other way to say it. I don't know if Trump's wiring is built for the speed of our system in America. I don't think it is because, well,

[A]

his speed worked negotiating with other countries.

[C]

But, but can you imagine, like you're working in a company that you're working faster than the company is working? So we're accustomed to the startup environment. If we want to make a decision, how quickly do we make a decision here? Like this, we make a decision. How quickly do we make a decision in php, like this, we make a decision, change the comp, do this, do that. We're going here, we're doing that. Right?

[A]

Give me the facts. Let's process, let's go.

[C]

Now, you go to a company, you got board approval, you got to go through this, you got. Which, by the way, so America's got multiple layers of board. A company typically has One board. Yeah. So you have to go sit down with the board. You got 7, 9, 11 people and say, guys, here's what I think we need to do. Let's vote for it. I think we make this investment and buy the company for $188 million. Five, four, voting against it. What are you talking about here? Congress then Senate, then so what? By the way, Rob, can you ask the question according to the Constitution and our system, if the president did take all the tariffs for the different countries he imposed through Congress and Senate, what is the fastest and slowest it would take for them to get approved? Do you know what question I'm asking each country? Yeah. So I want to know if. Okay, great, we follow the system. Because that's the great thing about America. You're following the system. If we did follow the system according to the Constitution, what does it say? Short answer. A president doesn't because Congress already has delegated part of its authority through existing trade laws. The speed depends on how long it gives Congress power to regulate commerce and set tariffs. But over decades, Congress passed laws that delegate limited tariff power to the President. Which is why the President. I know, but that's the 10 to 15. But I'm talking about above the 15%. You saw the president that just raised it from 10 to 15.

[A]

Well, since the slow path. New terrorists require full congressional legislation. We know what's going to happen there. Inflation bill with a bunch of other crap packed into it.

[C]

Go, go lower Rob, to see what the slow path would be. Keep going lower. Slow path. Okay, number one bill introduced to the House or Senate to committee hearings and markups. 3 majority vote on House, majority vote on Senate President signs. Realistically months to years.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Are you kidding me?

[B]

Like what do you.

[A]

How long did the big beautiful bill take?

[C]

You understand? By the way, can you, can you flip the question and ask how long is flip the question. Copy paste the question and ask and just replace it Instead of America put China or Russia change the country from US to China or Russia on how long it would take 24 hours. Well that, that's the point though. China system works very different. The fastest and slowest who controls the formerly trade in tariffs or sits under the state General State Council custom tariffs oversight Fastest way mental approval under authority if tariffs are framed. Okay, how fast? Days to weeks. Okay, what about slow slowest way majority and long term alignment of usually months, sometimes longer. But it doesn't say months or years. So our system even if he wanted to go through by the time they get to to vote would be midterms, and then even if it passes through. So all I'm saying is, for a person that comes from the business background that's used to dealing with speed, the speed of getting tariffs done is way too slow in America. Way too slow. Do you understand what I'm saying? I totally get it, and it's great. Some would say, thank God it's slow. Some would argue and say, thank God it's slow because, you know, you're happy when certain things are fast. But you're like, remember day one, we're going to sign an executive order. We're going to sign an executive order. So then moving. Moving forward, you almost have to sit there and think about when a president says, we're about to sign an executive order, you got to sit there and say, listen, supreme court, how's the supreme court going to be ruling you Again? It all goes back to how powerful the supreme court is. The supreme court is the board of directors. It's the board of the US and

[D]

thank God we have them. Whether we like them or.

[C]

Just

[D]

remember when biden wanted to allegedly pack the court, we're like, what does that mean? What's going to happen here?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

By the way, you know who looks incredible right now? Maybe the. The biggest win of his career is Rand Paul. He said it on the PBD podcast. He said, straight up, I expect them to shut this down because they're gonna. In defense of our republic. I'm not saying you're going to agree with them or disagree with them, but he called this.

[C]

Yes. Yes. Okay. All right, let's get to the next thing, guys. Something about the future being looking bright 46 years ago on the day the u. S. Hockey team won. And they won again yesterday in the crate. Rob, can we show the clip or what is. What is the. Of the way they scored a goal. Can you show it or no? And kind of. You're playing with fire a little bit. Right? They may take our medals away.

[B]

And we talk over it, because that goal, it was a three on three.

[C]

It was on three and three. He gives the pass. And then all of a sudden, when

[B]

you hear it, when you hear the

[C]

celebration, Ms. Tooth, the right way. Rob, this is it. Let her. Let her rip. Let her rip. We'll return our medals here. Just lower the audio maker.

[B]

Just want to celebrate. Let's go. Teeth all over the freaking ice. Let's go.

[A]

And it was a low wobbler.

[C]

And by the way, to make it even better, against who?

[D]

Canada.

[C]

Oh, my God. That's Even Justin Trudeau. Babies with Katy Perry. I heard they said they're half expecting at first. Rob, can you go to the interview this fellow did? What's his name? Just go to my Twitter account. If you go to.

[B]

He's lost teeth. He's lost dude.

[C]

Yeah, keep going. That's the one right there. Let me get his name right. It's. I want to get his name. I go to his account because I tagged him as well. Jack Hughes, right, Said go. Follow the man.

[B]

Only 50 followers. Get on there.

[C]

Go to the clip, Rob. Watch this.

[B]

I love the usa. I love my teammates. It's unbelievable. The USA Hockey brotherhood is so strong and we had so much support from ex players. I'm so proud to be American. Let's go.

[A]

This was such an incredible game to grind out. I mean, you're bleeding right through it just looking at you right now.

[C]

Can you just talk about how difficult

[B]

this gold medal was to win?

[D]

I'm unbelievable.

[B]

Game by Hellbuck. He was our best player tonight by a mile. Unbelievable game.

[D]

Unreal game by our team.

[B]

That's just a ballsy, gutsy win. That's American hockey right there. Let's go. That's a great Canadian team, but we're usa. We're so proud to be Americans.

[D]

Tonight was all for the country.

[C]

What does this gold medal mean to USA Hockey?

[D]

It's everything. Like I said, the USA Hockey brotherhood means so much. Look at these guys.

[B]

We're such a team.

[A]

Team.

[C]

We've been together for two weeks.

[B]

We're such a team.

[D]

The USA Hockey brotherhood is so strong

[B]

and we're so proud of you.

[C]

Rob, can you go to the link I just sent you? And then Vinnie, I'll come to you in one of the interviews. The two brothers. Okay. Have you seen this, Vinnie, or. No, the two brothers.

[D]

No, I haven't seen it.

[C]

Okay. Have you seen this clip, Rob? Make it big. So these brothers. Look at him. They're on the team together, but they were interviewed about playing together one day. Look. Look what he says. Watch this. Go ahead, Rob. What the thought of playing against in the NHL Sunday?

[B]

That'd be cool. My preference would be play with him

[A]

because he's so good though.

[B]

I mean, just to be able to look at that.

[C]

Can you imagine how the parents feel? That right there. That's the dream, baby.

[B]

Oh, man.

[C]

Vinnie, your thoughts?

[B]

I just. I absolutely love it. Like. Like again, I don't. I'm not. I. I've lost a lot of passion for. For sports because I personally think it's a big distraction with all the other stuff that's going on. But when it's something like this and it's America winning in this fashion and somebody that's actually proud and on foreign land talking about how great this country is and how amazing this place is, and it feels amazing that it's against Canada. I don't know if you know this, Pat. You know, they were so heartbroken that Canada put their flat, like, flag at half mast. Did you see this, Adam? This is Canada.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

At half master.

[D]

Yeah, that's the Canadian.

[B]

That's the Canadian flag. They changed it because they're so upset.

[C]

But I mean, I mean, with Justin, I can see that being his flag.

[B]

Yeah, with Justin.

[C]

Yeah. But by the way, for what it's worth, see some people, rumors speculating. Him and Katy Perry are expecting a baby.

[B]

Congratulations.

[C]

Congratulations.

[D]

Who's the one that's pregnant?

[C]

She's pregnant. Yeah.

[B]

Science. But no, but I think it's. I think it's a great, great win. We have the women's that won, and now we have the men that won. What is a woman, if you ask Canadians? They don't know. But no, I think it's great. And I think what, What a classy move. And the fact that, that the president called them. Did you see how long that speed. Oh, wait, Rob, which is the pla.

[D]

Can you.

[B]

You know, one of their teammates died in a car accident. And there's the teammates go and grab their kids, his kids and bring them onto the ice. Rob, if you could find. Look, this is. You want to talk about tears? This guy. Play this, Rob. Dylan Larkin and Zach Barentsky have gone into the stands. Johnny's kids are going to come out now. And they bring their kids out, take the photo with them with the gold medal team. Oh, stop my.

[A]

This is Johnny Goudreau. He played a long time for the Calgary flames and he died. He died in the car. His brother were cycling. They were struck by a drunk driver.

[D]

Killed.

[A]

He was only about 30 at the time. And these are his kids out there.

[B]

Look how cute she is.

[D]

She's smiling.

[A]

Played with USA national team team and he was one of the most successful players in u. S. National team history.

[C]

Wow. Wow, that's so beautiful, by the way. Don't you. Don't you just see this and say, I'm so proud to represent you, to buy your jersey, to have your kids want to wear it, to have your kids celebrate. Guys like this, this. These are the people that we need to turn into heroes, man. Exactly how amazing is this? Story. Unbelievable. Adam, your thoughts on this?

[D]

Well, I feel bad for Canada. You know, this is a religion in Canada, hockey, and they just can't figure it out. By the way, if you go to the NHL, I know we went to the Stanley cup, to a few games. The last five Stanley Cups, two have been won by Florida Panthers. I think Colorado and Vegas won, and then Tampa Bay won that. So Florida dominates the NHL. Speaking of the NHL, when's the last time I can. Canada invented hockey. This is their religion. This is our baseball, basketball, and football all combined into hockey. Okay. You know, the last time a Canadian team won 30 years ago, it was the Montreal Canadiens. They won in 1993. The majority of our players on the USA team weren't even born yet.

[C]

The.

[D]

The.

[B]

The.

[D]

The team that originated Canadian hockey was the Toronto Maple Leafs. The last time they won was 1967, and that's been when who was alive in 67? None of us were. With Tom, where you were reborn?

[A]

Yes, I was.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Tom was there. It's the longest drought in NHL history. So to. To say that this is like just the. The icing on the cake to how great of America is, and Canada is

[C]

just first weird and rubbing it in that Canada hasn't won one. Then you ask his age. You know, his family's Canadian. You know, the issue with age, I mean, it's like, at least do one, not the double.

[D]

I was just wondering if he remembers the game. That's all.

[C]

I'm going to transition to story. Tom, I'm going to come to you with this one. It's going to be California, so California. By the way, the governor came out and publicly his campaign, I think it's called 960 because he told in front of a group of African Americans that he got an SAT score 960, and that he's not smart like everybody. And he says if his speeches were written, he wouldn't be able to do it. And the only thing he was missing in this video is a hot sauce in his pocket to pull out and say that he carries with himself all the time. But that's somebody else's shtick. Rob, go ahead and play this clip. Go for it. I'm not, you know, I'm not trying to impress you. I'm just trying to impress upon you.

[D]

I'm like you. I'm no better than you.

[C]

You know, I'm a 960sat guy. And, you know, and I'm not trying to offend anyone. You know, trying to act all there. If you got 940.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Literally a 960 SAT guy. I cannot.

[A]

You.

[C]

You've never seen me read a speech because I cannot read a speech.

[D]

Maybe the wrong business.

[B]

What is he talking. Okay, can we. In this room, everybody. Whatever you're doing at your house, you're in your garage, you're making coffee. Do you understand? A white man is in Georgia sitting on stage with a black man who is the mayor, Andre Dickens. And he's basically slowing down his speech and saying, like, I'm dumb like y'.

[D]

All.

[B]

Like, I barely passed the SATs because I'm dumb like y'.

[A]

All, like.

[B]

And this is the Joe Biden. If y' all don't need to decide whether you need to vote for me or Trump. You ain't black. And I am at my wit's end with the black people that are out there in that room and all across the Charlemagne, the gods, and all these losers. When are you going to step up and say, this is absolutely appalling and it's racist, And I hate to be the guy to be like, if it was the other side. But if it was the other side. If a governor, name a Republican governor. Go ahead, Tom. Name a Republican Governor DeSantis. If DeSantis was on stage with a black mayor from Georgia and was like, man, I'm like, y'.

[D]

All.

[B]

And he's throwing in the. Like, he's a preacher. Like, a black preacher. Where is the outrage? Where's the outrage?

[C]

You don't think he was being sincere?

[D]

No.

[A]

This is pandering. Hold on. This is racist.

[C]

You don't think this is sincerity, Tom.

[B]

But. But it drives me crazy. Think about it. Schumer and the Democratic Party don't think black people know how to get an ID to vote. Kathy Hochul, remember when she said black kids from the Bronx don't know what a computer is? And then with Joe Biden and now this guy, and the. And the black community is quiet.

[C]

How.

[B]

How are you sitting on the sideline? If Pat. If I was black and I was in that crowd, I would have stood up and like, wait, wait, What? What are you talking about? I would have been kicked out of that room. I would have been kicked out. But beyond pandering, Tom, he's basically saying, guys, I'm stupid, too. You're stupid, I'm stupid. I don't know how to read. Like, you got no Adam. That's basically what he's saying is, hold on, let me do the leg fold. Because his crotch is gone. He's like, I eat Mac and cheese. I'm from the hood. I'm stupid. I'm stupid. You know what I mean? Like, y', all, I don't know how to read a speech. So you mean to tell me the governor of California can't read? That's what he's saying. If you can't read a speech, you can't read anything. And I'm sorry for. Yeah, Pat. It drives me crazy because none of them say anything.

[C]

Let me, let me show you a clip. And then Adam, Tom, I'm going to come to you guys.

[B]

Oh, my God, bro.

[C]

Rob, show the clip. When the reporter is asking him about cost of living in California and how he answers. Go ahead, Rob. This is cnn. California has the highest cost of living in the nation. The State's prices are 11% higher than the national average. We were actually out to dinner here in Nashville last night. We met a couple from California. They moved out of California because they couldn't afford the rent or even to buy a home and also start a family. Yeah, we've had hundreds of thousands of people move in California last two, three years. We've seen population grow. As you know, we moved from six to the fourth largest economy in the world. Dominate, dominate. Now in every key industry, from AI, Quantum, robotics, we dominate an ag. We dominant forestry.

[A]

People are struggling to afford things.

[C]

Like your mom was.

[B]

Oh, she dropped the mom thing. But, but. And again, professional. You have to give like. He's such a good serpent in the grass. He knows exactly. By the way, I even forgot what the question was because he's like, we're dominating. I'm using my hands. Look at my hands. Don't look at the lies that are coming out of the mouth. Out of my mouth. He's the future. He's the future of their party, Tom. Him and the Mamdanis and the AOCs.

[C]

Tom.

[B]

That's them. Beware.

[A]

The pandering makes me sick. The pandering has gone on from the Democrats for a long time. And when African Americans and people go out there and express independence, you know, Stephen A. Smith is not out there screaming like a conservative, but he takes a moderate point of view and he's calling things out that he doesn't like. And there are some that do it, but suddenly they call you names, oh, you're betraying us or you're going the other way. They're expected to stay in lockstep. In lockstep voting for people that pander to you like this. In lock step. To a guy that comes in there, you have to remember Obama did it, too. Because Obama didn't have street cred with the African Americans in America. When he would come and give speeches, he didn't have the cred. And if you look at some of these speeches, he started dropping his Rs and talking. Talking with.

[D]

Don't do the hard R, Tom.

[A]

Yeah, talking with this tone and everything. You know, I'm one of y' all and down. And it's like, it's just pandering. It's absolute pandering. And they're waking up. The voters are waking up. There are African Americans that are waking up. They're thinking for themselves, that are saying, listen, I will not be automatically assumed to be your voting block. I'm there. And we've seen it moving election by election. And I hope that the. Look, the numbers are screaming. They used to hold 92% of the African American vote. It was less than that in this last election with Trump. I don't have the number handy. I wish I did, but that's exactly what you're seeing. And this, this is racist in just insidious pandering here. It really makes me sick. And remember, to those you in the African American community, ask yourself a question, where has it improved? I'm going to give you this. Have you got it? I'm going to do this for you. Have you got it? As I've said before, these folks and Planned Parenthood have run a black genocide upon you through abortion. If you take a look at the number of aborted babies and you go back and you look at it, 14% of our population, proud African American citizens, 40% of the abortions. Why is that? Because they want that. Yep, they want that. And if that hadn't happened, Lord, be the size of the African American community in America. What would be the size of that? Would they tolerated. Would they have tolerated being used at the voting booth and then given nothing at the legislative cycle to improve schools, communities, opportunities? No, they wouldn't. And Obama wouldn't have been the first African American president. He would have been the second or third. Thurgood Marshall's son would have been the first, in my view.

[B]

Bingo.

[C]

Adam.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Well, let's make racism great again. You know, every, you know, we see in the NFL, we're going to end racism. So there's two types of racism. There's the open, overt racism, which, to be honest with you, I'm better with, because you just come out and say it, bro. Say how you feel. Then there's the other racism, which is like the low key racism, which I believe George W. Bush called the. The soft bigotry of low expectations. Remember that? You know, he had a few famous quotes. You know, fool me once, can't get food.

[B]

Tourists, the tourists, the tourists.

[D]

But the soft bigotry of low expectations. What are the soft biggest of lowest expectations? I don't expect a lot from you. I have very low standards from you. So if you don't excel, if you don't have a high performance, if you don't excel and succeed, it's because it's who you are and then becomes a self fulfilling cycle of of course you're not going to do good. Of course you're not going to read. Of course you're not going to succeed. Bless you. Sneeze on the truth. Bless you, Lord.

[B]

Bless you.

[D]

Then you're going to carry tobacco in your. In your purse. Then you're going to say that you ain't black if you went vote for me. So then Gavin Newsom, who's trying to appeal to the. To the black vote goes. I'm dumb too, y'. All. I got a 960. I can't even read that part.

[A]

I believe. I believe that. I can't even read.

[D]

I can't even lead.

[C]

Tom, what'd you get on your SAT

[A]

when I took it? 11. 1120.

[D]

So you're not even that smart. I did better than you.

[C]

Be honest, Vinny.

[D]

Unbelievable.

[B]

What'd you get? Be honest. What'd you get? It was not good.

[C]

What was yours?

[B]

Probably like, like eight something.

[C]

Okay, what was yours?

[D]

1220.

[C]

You got 1220. You got 1220. You and I are right next to each other.

[D]

But this is.

[C]

But let me tell you, I gotta. You know what my SAT's got me scholarship to Glendale Community College.

[B]

Really?

[C]

Yeah. Full Rice College.

[B]

If it wasn't for that, then you wouldn't know.

[C]

By the way, can you imagine at this tape table, Adam got a better SAT score than Tom.

[B]

Well, Tom fell asleep, by the way.

[C]

Tom's daughter got a 1560 out of 16.

[B]

Bailey got like. You know what that means? She got like one or two.

[D]

Those that can't do teach. And. And Tom taught his daughters well.

[A]

Oh, there we go.

[C]

Don't get red.

[D]

You know what? It's okay. It's okay. I beat you.

[B]

Are you ready?

[A]

Babs on the podcast and have her tell you the. The amazing story of how upset they were because I stayed out late. I fell asleep during the last section of the sat. It's a true story.

[C]

Well, I have a story about My sat, but I'm not going to get into it.

[B]

Why'd you fall?

[C]

It has to do with math.

[D]

You think you're better than the SATs.

[B]

I did an Abba Kadaba. I just put Abba Kadaba Math.

[C]

To me, I nailed math. But to me, I was like, I'm out with English. We were playing spades with my Armenian crew. And I think right after taking SATs, a month or two later, I joined the army. Wait, go ahead. You were telling me.

[D]

Well, speaking of black culture, I remember you told this story. I think you were in D.C. and you saw these sharp, sharp dressed black men coming out in suits, looking like a million bucks. They were like the young.

[C]

Yes, yes.

[D]

Who are those guys?

[C]

They were like, they were young, young lawyers. African American women and men looking amazing. I went and I said, what are you guys doing here? 2,000 of us. This was 10 years ago. Nine years ago. So what year are we right now to 2020.

[D]

We're still in 2026.

[C]

Yeah, it would be 15. 2015.

[D]

So two. So 2015.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

So Obama's the president. Black lawyers, I assume they were.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

You know, this was in D.C. or where was this?

[C]

It could have been Chicago. DC.

[D]

All right, so let's go there. Yeah, I've seen what you've done with php. I mean, black, white, Latino, Asian, Filipino, matzo ball, the whole do everybody dress like a million bucks? Imagine if you said, hey, guys, white people dress in suits, Latino guys do that. Black guys, don't worry, sag your pants. It's okay. Don't worry. It's the soft bigotry of low expectations. You have high standards. You say meet the standard to get the hell out. And every single one of your guys, whether it's Chris Hart, whether it's Suazo, whatever, whoever we're talking about, all look, act and play the part. And they deserve it. And everything that they've received, they've earned. So there's. There's no low expectations when it comes to us. And that, unfortunately, is how Gavin Newsom sees black people.

[C]

Well, let's. Let's go to this. Rob, do you have the clip of the mayor of California being questioned by the reporter? Do you have that clip, Rob?

[A]

I do.

[C]

Okay, play the clip. Watch this here, folks. Okay, this, this are an issue now, especially since it has rained and we've seen so many of them. What are you going to do about it? That's right.

[A]

Well, and let me just tell you,

[C]

we are fixing them. And in the last three months, we

[A]

fixed over 10,000 potholes.

[C]

And in the last couple of weeks we fixed almost 300. So we are going to continue doing that until all the potholes are fixed.

[A]

And what we are doing here is adding asking people to report on 311

[C]

when they receive they see a pothole because we certainly don't want cars damaged. Are people to be, you know, have difficulty with that? Now we saw you fill a pothole with asphalt here just a few minutes ago and you're, you're encouraging people to call 31 1. But guess what? We, we know people. I work with, people who've called 31 1. Nothing happened. The pothole was never repaired. They called several times over a couple of months. What do you have to say about that? Let me just tell you that in the last two months, three months, we have fixed over 10,000. We have a lot more to fix. But I think this is a reflection of decades of lack of investment in our infrastructure. And we are definitely addressing that.

[A]

Talk about that.

[C]

I mean, we spend so much less here in LA than other cities do. For example New York or San Diego, San Francisco, and we haven't repaved a single city street here since last summer.

[D]

Well, let me just say that we

[C]

have much more we need to do,

[A]

which is why I've been.

[C]

Pause right there. Sounds like a politician, you know, lip service. But, but by the way, who is the guy? Who was the guy? We have to recognize that guy. Can we get his name? I don't know where he lies politically. I'm sure he voted for her. Can you go to him and just give credit for him asking? Can, can we just recognize the guy's name? Rob, do we know who the reporter is?

[A]

That's the independent station in LA, KTLA 5 KTLA.

[C]

I mean, I'm familiar with KTLA. You and I live there. So we know KTLA. But who was the KTLA guy that interviewed him? I just want to recognize the guy because he deserves credit.

[A]

Eric Spillman.

[C]

Can you go to his, can you go to his account? Eric Spillman, ktla.

[B]

There he is.

[C]

That's the guy.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay, go, go. Can we learn a little bit about this guy? Go, go to his link, Wikipedia or is there anything that we can learn? Go to his profile right there. Zoom in. Eric smelling original KTLA mornings I've been started program in July of 1991 show David he began reporting.

[D]

Well said.

[C]

Well, undershifter JD sold the string of story to AP about a Berkeley professor who won a Nobel Prize in physics. That report for which he was paid 25 was the beginning, and he graduated English literature. Yeah, he's definitely a liberal. But guess what? San Luis Obispo. Beautiful. Right down the street from Mora Bay. Hey, whoever you are, respect.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

You're asking a question that we're wondering. And, you know, I applaud you for doing what you're doing. Good for you. All right, let's get to the next story here. Next story I want to get to is I have a clip I want to play to you guys. Two clips that I'm going to wait till the end. It's about. It's about fathers and daughter, father and son relationship, and Anthony Hopkins that I don't think you've seen this club. Have you guys seen this club? Tom, have you seen it? Tom, have you seen the clip with Anthony Hopkins? I can't wait for you to see it.

[B]

It's.

[C]

And I want to have a little bit of conversation with it. But while we're in California, on the stopwick of California, for some of you guys that are not for Gavin Newsom, I have a vote for you, Katie Porter. Guys, she's a freaking rock star stud, and she's back. Yes, she is back with a vengeance. Can you imagine? She's been controlling all that anger and rage, and it's not good to keep it.

[B]

It's not.

[C]

You got to let it out, let it fly out. Folks in California, if you're looking for a hardcore liberal candidate that believes in her crazy ideas, but she's got that temper, that rage that is very fit for tv. You cannot let an opportunity like this go away without her getting more TV time. Here's the great Katie Porter. Go ahead, Rob.

[D]

Simple, powerful message that we can all agree.

[C]

This is her campaign with me. One, two, three.

[B]

Yeah, that's right, Trump. But, you know, Gavin's in the crowd. Like, man, me and my brothers, we don't know how to read, woman.

[D]

Wait, wait, wait. What does that say, by the way?

[C]

This is not a joke.

[A]

Gets billions and billions in dollars from the federal government. So she gets elected governor, taking Gavin Newsom spot because he's leaving to run for president.

[B]

Oh, God.

[A]

So how does she work with the president? You need to get relief. You need to get. By the way, we also know that they got $21 billion recently for homelessness that they. They basically stole from the federal government and now they're taxing their own businesses on it. But what do you do?

[D]

How do you do that, Pat?

[A]

Where's the logic? Where's the logic of running a message like that.

[C]

Did you say logic, Tom?

[B]

Logic.

[C]

That's not a word. They know how to. Where's the logic? You got to say, where's the emotion? Like, that's emotion.

[B]

Look at their. Like, if you think about their. Just look at that. Just from those two clips from her and Gavin, okay, pandering to a black crowd and basically saying, I'm dumb like y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

Her message is, I'm running for California governor F. Trump. That's all they have, guys, zero. And then when you ask the governor, the sitting governor who's sitting there about how horrible the state is, you know, he says, no, no, we're actually number four. And this. And look at my hands. They have nothing, Pat. They have nothing. Remember, it's all anti Trump. And I. And I mentioned this at the beginning. I'm sorry. When we were in the back, I keep hearing this thing left and right. Every time you guys, you hear left or right. And we talked about this. I saw this on the Internet, in the Bible. This is over 3,000 years ago. It said in Ecclesiastes 10, chapter 10, verse 2, the heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Stop being fooled by these people, these leftists, these people that don't care about you, they don't care about your. The freaking country. It's about power and it's about. All about them, mind you. She's going to be the governor. You know that. She's the front runner.

[D]

What does Kelchi say?

[B]

Hold on.

[C]

Who is this lady, by the way?

[B]

No, I'm saying Kim. I was saying Kim Porter.

[D]

Katie Porter.

[C]

Katie.

[B]

Whatever.

[D]

So there's an Iowa Senate campaign ad

[A]

that is basically the same message as Katie Porter.

[D]

The entire commercial is.

[C]

Is this a commercial?

[D]

Yeah, this is an ad. It's not running on television.

[C]

It's running online due to the. Let me see.

[A]

Language.

[C]

Trump.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Vote Juliana.

[D]

Trump.

[B]

Vote Juliana.

[A]

Fuck Trump.

[B]

Vote Juliana.

[C]

They said it, not me.

[D]

I'm Juliana Stratton, and I'm proud to

[C]

have lived my whole life on the

[D]

south side of Chicago.

[C]

I'm not scared of a wannabe dictator. I'm running for Senate to stand up to Donald Trump.

[D]

I'll abolish ICE and hold Trump accountable for the crimes he's committed, just like they said.

[C]

Fuck Trump. Fuck Trump. Fuck Trump.

[D]

Vote Juliana. That's why. Approve this message.

[B]

They were both robbed. Two minutes.

[D]

What is she running for exactly?

[A]

Senator in Illinois.

[C]

Senate. Senator of Illinois. Can you go to California state or federal? I, I don't know. Can you go to Kalsi? Why do you ask?

[D]

No, I'm just wondering, like, go to

[C]

California Governor to see who's at the top. Kalshee, Gavin Newsome, Green, Swalwell is at the top.

[B]

No.

[C]

Where's Katie Porter? Go a little bit lower. She, I don't think she's on the list at all, but she's right there.

[B]

My girl.

[C]

Guys, we got work to do.

[D]

So she's not anywhere close.

[B]

She's a woman. She's gonna get up there.

[C]

Matt Mahan, Steve Hilton, and you got a few of Chad Bianco, by the way. I'd like to see Chad Bianco get more and more momentum.

[B]

She'll win.

[C]

Chad Bianco's somebody that has, has good ideas, good policies. Hopefully he'll get some momentum getting up there. Oh, Pat, Adam, thoughts?

[D]

He's got no chance. He's a Republican. So unless his name is the governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican has no chance in California. And this is what happens when you have a one party state. You know, a lot of people say that, you know, United States Congress, we're living in a unit party. It's a unit party. Everyone, it's, it's the unit party. They're, they, they fight, but behind closed doors, they're on the same team. That's what it is. We're looking at what a one party state will do. So, you know, what's the difference between California and China or California and Russia? There's not a lot because when it's one party, they're in control. That's it. You could pretend to do stuff. You could pretend to be a Republican and try to win, but the Republican has no chance. When's the last time a Republican did anything meaningful in California? Is it Schwarzenegger? Is that when it happened? I don't know.

[B]

I don't know.

[D]

But you remember when it was one of the monarchs in the UAE was basically saying, comparing UAE to the United States and it's like, we've got all this, United States has this, we have got all this. United says this. But here we have one party. And that's a challenge because if you fall out of line and fall out of favor with the party, that's it. At least the United States, you have a two party system. California has a one party system. And unfortunately a Republican has no chance. And didn't they do something with the gerrymandering and everything like that? And the redistricting in California, it made it even worse. So I don't see California getting better anytime soon.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, it's not going to help if they do the gerrymandering and become 48 to 4. It's, it's a losing proposition for two states that they want to lock up the left and the right is California and Texas. They don't even want it to be a discussion. And they're doing the same thing. They're both gerrymandering.

[D]

But we'll see.

[C]

We'll see what happened. We'll see what happened with California. Let me get to the next story here until we get into. Let's go to Mamdani, folks. When it comes down to IDs, you need IDs to be able to shovel and not just one to shovel snow in New York. But you don't need IDs when you're voting. Guys, let's get it straight. I mean, shoveling is a lot more important task. We need to verify these people not voting. Right? I mean the common sense stuff, just the kind of stuff that people say. Well, let me just listen to this, Rob, is this the clip of the reporter asking questions? Do you also have the link showing what is required of him before? First play this clip and then we'll go to what it says on their site. There's been this controversy over the snow

[B]

laborers and the sort of what some see as onerous need to have documentation. Can you just talk about if that's new and what you make of the controversy? This is all long standing. This is a long standing program and long standing requirements. And this is a way that New Yorkers are get paid to shovel snow in assistance with the city's response to a winter storm event. Federal law requires that employers get authorization and documentation to pay people for their work. We are not allowed to just cut checks to individuals for their work. And these are the policies that we've had in place. But I understand that for many it's the first time that they've ever heard about it.

[C]

So what is that, Rob? If you can go to. There's a picture from their site that says you need. Right there. Okay, zoom in a little bit if you could. To be eligible, you have to be 18. To register for an appointment, workers must have two small photos, two original forms of ID copies, and Social Security card. I mean, people can't find their Social Security card. Gavin Newsom the other day, you need passports. He can't even find his passport. Why are you making it so difficult to do this? Yet you want to make it easy to vote.

[D]

That's the.

[C]

That's the question. Adam, did you send that one clip of that girl to Rob?

[D]

Send it to Rob.

[C]

Rob, if you want to pull up the one that Adam sent you. I haven't seen this yet but apparently

[D]

by a great influencer, Lizzie Savetsky, giving her take on what's going on.

[C]

Go ahead, Rob.

[A]

The big snowstorm coming today and our

[C]

mayor says that we need emergency snow shovelers.

[B]

If you'd like to sign up to be a paid snow shoveler, you can go to any DSNY garage from 8am to 1pm tomorrow on Sunday.

[D]

So there she goes.

[A]

That the mayor said that we were supposed to report for duty between 8am

[D]

and 1pm today to.

[C]

For emergency snow shoveling.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Why?

[D]

I think the earliest that we can

[C]

put you out there is 8pm tonight.

[B]

It's 8pm tonight.

[C]

I think it's actually higher now.

[B]

I believe it's $30.

[A]

If I have a snowblower and I can do the work of three to four people, can I get paid more?

[D]

Don't think so.

[C]

I thought we could just tax the rich.

[B]

Need two forms of id. What happens if I only have one?

[C]

You need two forms to sign up.

[A]

I saw one from this side and

[B]

one from this side. It's so interesting.

[A]

Cuz they want to tell us we

[C]

don't need ID to vote but we

[B]

need two forms of ID to shovel.

[C]

You know, do I need to print the photos out?

[B]

I have to print those?

[A]

Yes.

[C]

What if I don't have a printer? What if I don't have a printer?

[B]

Thank you.

[C]

We got here our marriage.

[D]

Yeah. Shout out to Lizzies for exposing the ridiculousness that is Mamdani New York City.

[C]

So Vinnie, your thoughts, your thoughts with Mamdani and what's going on in New York here I have a. I have

[B]

so much going on like and can I piggyback on top of it?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

What they were doing too. I think it's. It's if you can't see as last week when I said we told you so and now it's happening in real time. Not saying that we're right on everything but how. When has it ever worked? The hypocrisy of. Of saying I'm a sanctuary city, bring the kids free this, free that and now this is happening and, and it's. It shows how ridiculous and how much of a liar this guy is. I don't know if. And if you guys want to come back to what you guys have to say. Did you guys see what happened In Times Square this past couple days, Rob, I forgot what day it was, but they shut down Times Square. A bunch of Muslims went there. Sneako, your boy was there playing, praying in the middle of the city. Okay, mind you, before Rob plays this, there's a Muslim guy in this video proclaiming they are taking over the city and chants Allahu Akbar. And everybody comes in. And just to let you guys all know, this is them planting a flag, okay? This is them saying, we're here. It's asserting dominance. Robbie, can you please play this and tell me if this makes anybody feel comfortable? And mind you, this is 20 minutes away from where the world trade is and where Islamists flew planes into the world trade and killed over 3,000Americans. Same religion. Okay, play this video real quick. Yo, make some noise from the brother mortar right now, baby.

[C]

Mashallah. Yeah.

[D]

Oh, don't scare them, brothers.

[C]

Relax.

[A]

They're over here on purpose to be

[B]

like, oh, my God. Who's seen those videos? Where they're like, oh, my God, the

[A]

Muslims are taking over New York.

[B]

Have you seen those? Yeah. You seen those? Let them know that we are taking over New York City. Oh, my God. When people. What was a Maya Angelou? When people tell you who they are, believe them the first time. They're not hiding, guys. So for everybody that's like, oh, we're America. We're open for culture, bs. Take that nonsense and go to the Middle east and do it. Go to Saudi Arabia, go to Qatar, go to wherever the hell it is. Pat, I'm so uncomfortable with that. And it's becoming clear with Mamdani what his focus is in. Because he's failing at every single thing, every metric. You see him, he lied about the promises. The streets are filled with trash and filth and poop. There's videos of that. He looks lost during severe weather where the homeless people are dying because he doesn't know how to do it. He's so unmanaged, yet he keeps happening. Is Islamic. Prayer is Islamic. This. It's speaking Arabic in front of people. That's what he's doing. Okay? And there's a difference. Okay? As Christians, in the Bible, Matthew 6, 6. Pray in private, you go in a room. I have my moments with God every single morning and every single night.

[C]

It's you.

[B]

You don't show it. You don't show off. You don't say, hey, everybody, look at how religious and how cool I am. It's about humility. It's about your relationship in your heart, okay? You're not flexing in the street to let people know, oh, this is who I am, and this is what we are. That's a battle call. Okay. What he's doing. Okay. Shutting down Times Square. I'm not a. I'm not a fan of it at all, Pat. And again, when he's saying, oh, they're scared. Like, we're taking over. We are taking over, and we keep letting this crap happen. And it's going to keep happening and keep happening. There's parts of Brooklyn where they're playing in the street on loudspeaker. Like, what do we. Where are we. What are we talking about?

[A]

The blocking sidewalks, the horn signaling.

[C]

The latest clip. A Trump supporter showed up to this. Go ahead.

[B]

I think Freedom News. I don't know.

[C]

We played.

[B]

I think, Robin, last time we played Freedom News, it. It gave us that strike.

[C]

Okay, then. Yeah. Don't do it.

[D]

I don't understand the problem with Muslims taking over New York City. What's the problem with that?

[B]

No, no, I'm not. What do you mean?

[C]

Well, at least let me show you where he went to pray.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Guys, invitation. Go ahead, Rob. This is Mamdani when he went to a mosque. It's called the Al Khoi Islamic center in Queens, cited by the DOJ and sanctions cases, telling worshippers it was privilege to be there as the first Muslim mayor. Go ahead and play the clip.

[D]

Rap.

[C]

And then last Ramadan, I was with

[B]

many of you here at the procession.

[C]

February 20, 2020, martyrdom anniversary of Imam Ali.

[B]

It is a privilege to be here with you. Once again, I stand before you as the first Muslim mayor in our city's history, and this year as the first jummah that I have attended in that new position, and to do so together. It is a reminder that in this month of Ramadan, as we find moments of reflection.

[C]

You can pause this right there. And then do me a favor. Go to the last. Last 15 seconds. Go to the last 15 seconds of. Go right there. Just read the words, folks. Wait, did it just say, in the killing of infidels by your sword?

[B]

Yes, it did kill.

[C]

It just say the same place he went. And the prayer says. And the killing of infidels by your sword.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Huh?

[D]

What's wrong with that, though?

[B]

No, it's peaceful. No, but seriously, what's wrong? No, no.

[C]

And when.

[B]

No, no.

[D]

I don't understand what you guys are trying to do.

[B]

Right. I have to say something.

[D]

You're trying to say that they can't assert their dominance, that they can't kill infidels. With their sword. What are you trying to say?

[B]

My thing is this.

[D]

Let's do what they want to do all over the United States.

[B]

I've been saying this in Dearborn, in

[D]

New York City and Houston. Let them take over.

[B]

Adam, it's a public.

[D]

I don't care what you say.

[B]

Public display of power. Don't pretend that it's the same thing with what we do as Christians, okay? They're not. One is humility before correct religion. Let me finish. One is humility. Can I finish, Adam?

[D]

Yes, sorry.

[B]

One is humility before God. The other is dominance in a public square. Okay? Praying before a meal, normal. I do it. Nobody, nobody cares. But when you take the most iconic intersections in America and you turn it into like a victory rally, that sends a message. Faith is one thing's force, presence, it's another. And I don't care. Everybody, I know people are going to come at me. Go ahead, message me. And Death threat me about. Oh, but America's like, no, no, excuse me. This is a Christian nation, okay? Block shutting stuff down to pray for your freaking God. I'm not a fan of that. Okay? Period. Period. And the Bible warned us about this false prophet stuff. It's not. We were warned.

[C]

What?

[B]

Go ahead, Tommy. Were going to say something.

[A]

No, you're absolutely right. We were warned. We were warned about, you know, compromise. That when you compromise beliefs and you compromise that, the one that's compromised is you. You think you're compromising for the other side to be nice, to be friendly, to be accommodating, to be magnanimous. You're not. What you're compromising is yourself. And this is what we get. And it comes in. This is history repeating itself. The flaw of mankind have done this over and over. And we've seen thriving societies diluted through compromise that they think, oh, we're just being nice to people. And this is where you end up. It's a slippery slope and you slide down it.

[B]

And Tom, if you think about it, that's his. That was his main goal. You want to talk about a Trojan horse? That smile, that touching on the chest. He is failing at everything, but he is winning in that. Tom, shutting down Times Square as a New Yorker is a spit in the face to everybody. There are you can. Then, by the way, there was Christians. I saw like five videos of Christians trying to be there, Pat and record, and they were bullying the Christians, like, trying to fight the Christians. Are you freaking. What? What? No, I'm not cool with that. I'm not cool with that at all, bro. Go to your, go in your mosque and do what you're gonna do. Blocking intersection and interfering with people's lives and then yelling at Christians who are just there to witness what you guys are doing. I don't play that. And I'm sorry, I, I'm not.

[D]

I think you need to be a little bit more tolerant.

[B]

No, no, I think you need to do it.

[D]

They say that they're a religion of peace. You have to believe them. Don't worry about that. They want to kill infidels. There's no examples of them exploding and killing people. Stop it, Vinnie. The, the, the, the. It's obnoxious.

[C]

Listen, there's a, There's a. Rob, can you show that one clip on the reason why people fear the picture, not the clip that I sent you. Can we fact check this, Rob? The second one right there from Babylon B. Groundbreaking new study finds Islamophobia maybe partially caused by Muslims killing people all the time. And, and by the way, I'm not saying this is correct because I, I don't know if Babylon B is. No, you know, they're the. How serious they are about this, but go ahead, Adam.

[D]

I just for me, it's a religion of peace. You can't tell me anything otherwise. You can show me thousands of examples. You can show me 9, 11, you can show me ISIS and Al Qaeda. I'm going to anchor to my belief system that they are the best people in the world. But let me shift gears and let me follow the money for a second, if you don't mind.

[C]

Go for it.

[D]

So, yes, we can go there on the religious side, but let's talk money for a second with this guy Mamdani. You know, my favorite guy on cnn, I know it still exists, is other than Scott Jennings, Fareed Zakaria. Fareed Zakaria, who's frequently criticizes Trump, went ham on the big blue states, Democratic states. Here's what he said. He said the big blue cities are out of control, promising more spending more, delivering less, and pushing off fiscal problems to some future day. That's Fareed Zakaria saying this. He said Democrats in city halls should stop governing as if it's a goal to announce new entitlements and instead make government work. Now here's what he said about New York City, which is like the crown jewel of government bloat. Number one, their budget right now, which we talked about the other day, 127 billion just in New York City alone, which is the size of some small countries like Greece and Thailand, that's number one. Number two, under Mayor Bloomberg, which was as soon as. As recent as 2013, I want to say. So 13 years ago, it's 127 billion. Now take a guess what it was under Bloomberg. 70 billion. Okay, so almost double in the last 13 years. So if you want to talk supply and demand, whichever it comes down to, pre covered, there was 8.8 million people living in New York City. 8.8. Everyone fled. The rich left. Whoever can afford the hell to leave, they're all living in Miami. They're Florida. Wherever they went, it bottomed down at what, 8356, 835. Okay, so that's how many people left? Over a half a million people, Pat. Is that right? So now in 2025, this is at the end of 2024, 2025, they still haven't gotten up to pre pandemic levels. What's my point? Everything comes down to supply and demand. So if there's less people and your budget is more, guess who's gonna have to pay more taxes? The people living there right now. That's why you have those black guys last week. They're like, oh, hell no, bro, we voted for you. But I didn't think you would tax us more. Who do you think they're going to tax, buddy? It's not just going to be the rich. It's going to be the homeowners. It's going to be everybody else. Then here's another example. If you want to show this. The cost of education, just to educate our kids, you know how much they're spending per child in New York City? 35 grand per child. Dude, that's the price of a nice private school in Miami. Maybe 50, but you'll get there. So $42 billion just goes to educating kids. Kids. 35 grand a kid. Now, if you want to show this last piece, this is what a high earner has to pay in New York. We already, we understand that, you know, California is at, what, 13? Tom did the math last week. He said, adam, you forgot about not only the state, but the city tax as well, and the personal income tax. So you're paying as much as 55. That's what you're paying in the EU. And by the way, in the EU, you get universal healthcare and free college. At what point are New Yorkers going to say, what are we paying for at this point? Unbelievable. And the coup de gras right here is. I don't know if I sent you this. New York City has The highest marginal corporate tax rate. So even companies are paying 17.4%. At what point are people going to say, I'm done with this. I'm moving to Miami. Come on down. The weather's fine.

[C]

You know what's pretty bad? Which is. That was great, the numbers you went through. You know it's bad when WaPo's editorial board mocks Mamdani for facing harsh reality less than two months later. When WaPo goes after you, WaPo goes after you.

[D]

Right.

[C]

You're doing something wrong. So this is going to continue.

[D]

They're the people that laid off hundreds of people.

[C]

And I hope Mamdani succeeds. I hope Mamdani succeeds. And he keeps pushing his stuff. Because again, sometimes people need a reality check to realize what's possible and what could come to a city near you. This guy here is doing it to the number one city in America for capitalism. If he does it to that city, what, what other cities? Do you think he can do it to any other cities? Let me get to the next story.

[D]

More interesting.

[C]

What's that?

[D]

What's it. What's coming up this July in America?

[C]

World cup?

[D]

No, it's our 250th year anniversary.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Amazing. Happy birthday, America. What also is coming is the 25th anniversary of 9 11. So we're going to have mom, Donnie, nine months from now, eight months from now being like, guys, welcome to New York City. This is where 911 happened. And you're going to juxtapose that with him and Mosque saying literally kill the infidels. You can't make this up. Welcome to Clown World 2026.

[C]

Yeah. Okay. All right, let's get to the next story. Next story I want to get to is the Gunman of Mar Lago. Rob, if you want to pull this up, Gunman. Over the weekend, we all saw the reports. 20 year old guy tried to jump over and you know, he had a shotgun in his hand. In no time, he was eliminated. Rob, if you want to play this clip. At 1:30 this morning, the security detail detected that a individual had made his way into the inner perimeter of Mar A Lago adept deputy and two Secret Service agents on the detail went to that area to investigate. They confronted a white male that was carried a gas can and a shotgun. He was ordered to drop those two

[B]

pieces of equipment that he had with him, at which time he put down

[C]

the gas can, raised the shotgun to a shooting position. At that point in time, the deputy and the two Secret Service agents fired

[B]

their weapons and neutralized the threat he

[A]

is deceased at the scene.

[C]

I'll give you a picture of the

[A]

shotgun and the gas can to have with you.

[B]

So that's what we know now.

[C]

Investigation continues. The FBI is the lead investigation agency on this case and we will be assisting them and what, whatever manner they would like and they will be responsible for answering any other questions at an appropriate time. Okay, so that's that. Now, the gunman shot at Mar? Lago was obsessed with Epstein. Cover up came from family of avid Trump supporters. The man who entered Trump's. Again, this is the Daily Mail story. The man who entered the Trump Mar? A Lago with a shotgun and a gun gas canister comes from a family of supporters. Austin Tucker, 21 year. Austin Tucker Martin, 21 years old, was shot and killed on Sunday morning after entering Mar? A Lago. Brandon Fields, Martin's cousin, reacted with disbelief, called Martin quiet and sane. His family was almost entirely in favor. We are big Trump supporters, all of us. Everybody feels said. But his cousin was real quiet, never really talked about anything. Martin himself was also allegedly a supporter. However, a text message uncovered by the outlet showed that Martin may have been influenced by the Department of Justice release of the files related to dead pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. On February 15th, just a week before he was killed by law enforcement, he texted a co worker at Pine Needles Lodge in North Carolina. And the files, about the files. I don't know if you read up on the Epstein files, but evil is real and unmistakable.

[B]

Martin said Vinnie, I mean, tragedy, but how? Like ignorance. In the same breath, what do you. First of all, the President's not even there. It looks like a suicide mission to me. You're showing up to Mar? A Lago, you know, it's heavily guarded with a gas canister and a shotgun. And depending on what kind of ammunition's in the shotgun, if it's buckshot, you're not doing anything but pissing off the person that you're shooting at. If it's a slug, you have to have a really, really good aim. So I don't, I don't know where the, the, the mindset of something like, like that was. But for the whole family to be Trump supporters and then to have something like that, that what's the end goal? Like, what's the mission and who's talking to him? I don't think it's just on the Internet and he's just looking on X to find that in his brain. What is going to kill? What was his objective? Go and do what? The president's at the White House to go there and do what I think it's. And again, people, you know, online, listening to what they're listening to, get swayed a certain way. But to me, like, in all honesty, I'm asking you, Pat, what is he doing with a gas canister and a shotgun? You know you're going to get confronted. The one thing that bothered me is that he got into the inner perimeter, which even though the President's not there, there's no reason anybody should be getting that close. What do you think the objective was? What is he trying to do with one shotgun? No, no massive ammunition, no backpacks, shotgun, gas canister. What is he doing?

[C]

You think he knows the President's not there?

[B]

I'm almost positive he knows the President.

[C]

So what do you think he's doing?

[B]

I don't know, like, maybe it's a suit, like, just like that guy that the. I don't know if it was an airman or army guy that went in front of the White House or something, put gasoline all over himself and killed himself in protest of what was happening in Gaza. It's like, are you, are you trying to do a suicide mission to bring awareness? There's so many other ways to bring awareness than going there. And you know you're going to get killed. When you pick up your gun and aim it at a law enforcement officer, you know what's happening. He's not going to kill. Well, you're going to kill five of them. No, I think he knows what's going to be happening. So what's the, what's the goal?

[A]

I want to hear more about the, the mental condition and what happened. Mainstream media is going to say, oh, see, Completely disappointed, disillusioned with Trump to the point of, you know, going to engage it like that. But your, your questions, Pat, are the right questions. Those are the questions at the center. If you know Trump's not there, then you know the only people you're going to encounter is the second level security that is securing dwelling because there are no active targets on. And I hate to say that, but they call them active assets or active targets because they know people are targets. And so Pat, if he goes there, he knows it's going to be second level security. And this is what he's going to encounter. And he, and first of all, I thank you for the sheriff that sat there and gave a very transparent and complete report. That is what strong law enforcement reporting for the media and the public sounds like. I'll give you a picture of it so you have it. I'LL do this. But he says he then raised the gun at us. What does he think is going to happen at that moment? That's a suicide.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Adam.

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Well, it only takes one psycho to change the world. I mean, we saw what happened with Charlie Kirk. We've seen what happens when Trump almost got killed, shot. We've seen what happens with school shooters. It's. You're only as strong as your weakest link. Here's this kid that's clearly mentally ill. He drove drives from North Carolina. Whether he thought the president that was there or not is almost irrelevant. He went out of his way to kill himself. So. By the way, how many times have we been to Mar A Lago in the last few years? Years. We're lucky enough, and I'm grateful enough. I've been to Mar A Lago, I don't know, dozen times we've done our events there. Dude, you're not getting past security at all, much less if we're going to go to the White House or anything. Like, you're not, you're not getting there. I mean, Butler Penns, that's a whole nother story, okay? But this kid thinks he's going to show up and do what? So I'm so grateful that we've become, you know, tight with the Trump administration. They invite us there. We've done our events there. I know we're doing another event, Miami sometime soon. Dude, you're showing up and you think that you're gonna do what? So to me, this kid is irrelevant. He's, it's, it's sort of. He's an embodiment of what's going on that these weirdo kids let. Next thing you know, he's gonna find out he's a trans shooter. God, for bring. We, God forbid we bring that up. They think that they're gonna take vigilante justice into their own hands and change the world. Whether it's School Shooter, whether it's Charlie Kirk, whether it's any of these characters, hopefully they're. They're killed before it even becomes an issue. Because the fact that he got how close. Inner perimeter. Inner perimeter, whatever the hell that means.

[B]

That's very close.

[D]

You know, that's.

[B]

That's by the house.

[D]

So thank God everything's okay. Thank God everybody's okay. But it only takes one idiot to change the course of history, which you almost learned.

[C]

It is. It is very weird. And by the way, yesterday, you know, I was talking to couple parents about what young boys need, and I said, there's five Things young boys need. They need a present father, the right belief system sold to them. You need high standards. You need friction, and you need fun. You need friction to be able to know that life's going to be tough. And over the weekend, I saw a video, an interview with Anthony Hopkins. Anthony Hopkins, one of my favorite actors of all time. The guy was in Shadowlands. He was in. I think it's called Shadowlands. He was in Silence of the Lambs. He's been on so many. The fracture. He's been on so many things. But in this interview, he just came out with a book a few months back, and this interviewer is asking him about his daughter. His daughter's 58 years old. They haven't seen each other for 20 plus years.

[D]

Oh, wow.

[C]

And she does not want to see him. And you have to see how uncomfortable he gets. And then I want you to hear his answer. Then I'm going to come back to you guys. Then I want to show you a video clip of a son and a father talking to each other. This son is now 32 years old, but let's watch this clip first. Here's Anthony Hopkins being asked about his estranged. Being estranged from his daughter. Go ahead, Rob.

[A]

For you.

[B]

So I know what you're going to talk about.

[C]

My domestic life.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

No. No. Even though it's in the book?

[B]

No.

[C]

Stung. He doesn't talk. Can I ask a general question that's

[B]

not specifically about the material in the book?

[D]

No, it's about the. I'll stumble through this.

[B]

Part of the reason that the material

[D]

in the book about your relationship with your daughter, your estranged relationship with your daughter. Part of the reason why I found it so painful is that it resonated with me for personal reasons.

[B]

I've seen my father, I think, twice in 20 years.

[D]

You know, I've spoken to him once

[B]

in those 20 years, and I'm very curious about other people's experience of that kind of estrangement.

[D]

In this instance, the estrangement is my choice.

[C]

But I just wonder if you have

[D]

thoughts about where reconciliation might lie between

[B]

estranged parents and children.

[C]

My wife Stella sent an invitation to come and see us. Not a word of response. So I think, okay, fine, I wish her well, but I'm not going to waste blood over that.

[B]

If you want to waste your life

[C]

being in resentment 50 years later, 58 years later, fine, go ahead. It's not in my ken. See, I could carry resentment over the past, this and the other, but that's death. You're not living. You have to Acknowledge one thing, that we are imperfect. We're not saints. We're all sinners and saints or whatever we are. We do the best we can. Life is painful. Sometimes people get hurt, sometimes we get hurt. But you can't live like that. You have to get over it. And if you can't get over it, fine. Good luck to you. But I have no judgment. What I could. So that's. It would do you. That's all I want to say. Do you hope your daughter reads the book?

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I'm not going to answer that. No.

[C]

I don't care.

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I'll move on.

[C]

Please.

[B]

I want you to.

[C]

Because I don't want to hurt her.

[D]

I understand.

[B]

I don't want to. I don't want to make any. No.

[C]

20 years. The offer was made. But fine, Onwards. What do you think?

[D]

That's tough, man.

[C]

What do you think?

[B]

I mean, I'm sure. Like what. What did he. Did they say what he. What happened for something like that to occur?

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Why.

[B]

Why the estrangement? Is there any, like, fallout? Do we. Was it because of his acting? Was it because of an action? What did he do? Because, I mean, that you. But I could. I could feel the pain in the. In the interviewers thing, because, mind you, I don't have any kids. But I can only imagine what that must feel like. Is something that came from you. You can't communicate with that person. I lost my dad when I was 19. And Pat, we talked about this. I couldn't see. My mom's still alive. I love her to death. I couldn't see a moment or a scenario happening where I know that he's walking around and I wouldn't be able to talk to him or be around him, even though whatever he put us through. And remember you asked me, Pat, I think a month ago, you're like, Vinnie, not less than a month ago. We're eating dinner and you're like, if you had three wishes, what would one of them be? And I told you five minutes with my dad. Give me five minutes. So when I see people like that, it hurts because I'm like. You could see the pain. He doesn't want to talk to me. He's fighting it. He's fighting it. Fighting you. You've gave this person everything. You've nurtured this person. You gave them a life. They're 58 years old. They're. They're an active, you know, contributing person in society. And you can't get them to be with you or even communicate with you. And it's like man, that's a. That's a struggle I can only imagine. But I can only imagine with everything that I've seen with you do with Tico, with Dylan, with Senna, with Brookie, I. It would drive Pat if I found out one day Tico doesn't want to talk to you, and you have, and it's just because in his mind or a scenario happened in his head, he doesn't want to talk to you. It would crush me knowing how horrible, Horrible you would feel because of everything that you've done and the lessons and everything with the video that you put on Instagram, the work and all the stuff that you put in. So I'd be curious to find out what happened. It's none of my business, but, I mean, if he's saying it's in the book, but it's soul crushing. It's soul crushing. And I could see it in his face. I could see in his face. So, yeah, yeah, it's tough.

[C]

In this article, this is him and Abigail did a movie together called Shadowlands, which I think is a story of C.S. lewis, which is worth watching if you haven't seen it. And he was an alcoholic he talks about in his new book as well. He married his first wife, I believe, in 1967, and they had her. It's the only child he's ever had. And when they ask what happened and why he was hurt and. Because if you go a little bit lower, there's a picture of the two together smiling. That's his daughter right there. So she. She was an extra. She was. She had some kind of a small role in the movie. Go a little bit lower, Rob. So he says they fought frequently. Hopkins explained that points of contention. Rob, can you see if they. Says they fought frequently? Is that his daughter or is that about his ex? Go a little bit higher to see if it's talking about his daughter or his ex. By the time we realized how awful of a match we were, Barkara was pregnant. And we tried to rally for the sake of the child we were about to have, but it was no use. The marriage was a disaster. So he's talking about his wife. Go a little bit lower. And then he says they fought for. Hopkins explained that points of contention included his alcohol, alcoholism, and Barker's resentment over his career. One night, when he returned from home, returned home from working on a location in Scotland, Barker greeted him with sarcasm and called him Mr. Lord, high and Mighty. I have never been physically violent, but in that moment, I was filled with such revulsion that I became afraid for myself and her. And at that exact moment, Hopkins decided to leave for good and went to see his 14 month old daughter in a room. I looked down at her and whispered goodbye. He writes. Then I walked back to the hall, picked up my suitcase and left the house. Go a little bit lower, Rob. Aside from sending financial support, I didn't have contact with Petronella and Abigail for a few years after that. It is the saddest fact of my life and my greatest regret. And yet I feel absolutely sure that it would have been much worse for everyone had I stayed and, and I

[B]

don't know, I don't know their religious beliefs, Pat, but I. Horrible, horrible situation. I don't know if she's a Christian. I don't know if he's a practicing Christian. The attitude that he has, which I think is beautiful, that I miss, is we're all sinners. We're far, far, far, far from perfect. I, I, by the way, I don't act. I'm trying to be the best Christian that I can. I try to walk in the path, I sin, I stumble all the time. He's at least saying, as a man, I messed up. We're all gonna mess up. That's what this life is about. Your fault. You are the furthest thing from what Christ acts. But we're trying to walk in the footsteps. And again, if she was a real, I don't know who she is. I don't know nothing about her except for what you guys wrote. If she was a real practicing Christian, that forgiveness, that's which is one of the hardest things. Praying for your enemies is number one for me, which is so difficult, but I do it. And then forgiveness, knowing that we fall short of the grace of God, but he gives us that moment to say, listen, you're gonna fail. You're imperfect. And if you, if you accept that, then it could be that, that relationship could be a lot different. Because if that was me and I was a daughter and I was a real legitimate practicing Christian, I'd say, dad, you know what? I love you. I forgive you. I'm not going to forget anything that you did, leaving me at 14 months old, but I do forgive you.

[C]

Adam. Whoa.

[D]

I'll try to not cry like, like Vinnie, but it might, it might be tough. Well, I'll say this, I'm respectful and jealous of the relationship you have with your dad because I, I see the relationship you have with your dad, and I just didn't have that relationship at all with my dad. I had the Opposite relationship of Vinnie where you said, you want to spend five more minutes? I said, I can't spend five more minutes with this guy. I tried and tried and tried to work out this relationship with my dad and at the end of the day like I just had to block him from my life. And it was the first time that I was able to like press block on my phone after considering it. And he died less than a month later and I had all these crazy voicemails on my phone. It was, it was tough but, but when you deal with challenges in your life, it only makes you better. Like if you see poor people, they get motivated. But I'm not going to be poor. It's not going to happen when someone says you can't do it. So yes I can. So for me, I had such a contentious relationship with my father. I'm like, I'm going to have the best relationship with kids. I was a camp counselor, I was a school teacher, all my best friends have kids. I'm like the fun uncle. I've taken a massive role in my nephews life, especially since my sister got divorced. So I'm going to be the best possible uncle, father, leader. And obviously I'm going through that vetting system right now with my girl. But it's not easy. You know, you said these are the five things that every young man need. You said, what is a father, Present father, A belief system, standards, high standards, friction, friction, fun and fun. So and I wrote it down because it's so true and I wish that, that more people, that more men had that active role with their kids. I mean, you know the one movie that you not encouraged us to see you, you made us see was the Judge. And Robert Duvall, I want to say passed away last week and that the relationship they had with their Robert Downey Jr. And Robert Duvall, that was tough. I think he had to come back after being estranged for decades and represent his father that was accused of murder. And was this the movie? And he says, where were you? Was that this movie?

[C]

That's Johnny Cash.

[D]

Gotcha. But same concept, both of them.

[C]

But by the way, in that scene there's also. Where were you? Oh, she wants your mother. Just wanted to see you. Why don't you come?

[D]

Yeah, so it's tough out there and we've seen the stats about, you know, the best outcome for a kid is to have a two parent household, a nuclear family. But then when you take away the father, the stats plummet. But when you take away the mother and it's A single father. The stats say the same. And I'm not discounting what single mothers do because God knows we have that massive problem in this country. But the father's role in the life is the most important thing. The last thing is this. I have friends on the opposite side of things. Guys my age that have gone through a divorce and I've seen the women that hold the kids hostage from my buddies. And I wish it was an equal footing type of thing. But men have to know what they're getting themselves into in the legal system because they're always going to side with the mother, whether that's alimony, whether child support. So be very careful who you have kids with. Go through the vetting system. I know you talk about the 101.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Questions to ask before you get engaged, but this life thing that we're all trying to do, it's. Nobody has all the answers.

[C]

But I want to show you this. I want to show you this. Rob, can you go to this other clip I sent you because Vinny, I want you to see this. These two go hand in hand. Here's a guy that is sitting with his dad, okay? And this guy is a father now himself, he's got a son himself. And he is trying to tell exactly how he feels about his dad in the most respectful. And he is so sincere in this clip. Very emotional. Rob, go ahead and play the clip.

[D]

I waited for you. I waited every weekend and you never showed up. And he always told, he always said that you would. And I love looking back. You know, we never had this talk,

[C]

this 33 years right here.

[B]

That's what this is.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You told me that you would come, daddy. You never did.

[D]

You told me that you would going to pick me up.

[C]

And I waited.

[D]

And I look at my son and I think about how much I.

[A]

What my, what my son means to me.

[D]

And I can never make him sit on a curb.

[C]

And I don't say this to make you feel bad.

[D]

I. I don't. I really love you.

[C]

This is not the beat you up show.

[A]

This is the here we are. This is the we're going to rejoice.

[C]

So let me get it out cuz

[A]

you like me with the same.

[D]

I know you love to talk and

[A]

I love to talk and I've been talking and talking. But let me keep talking and let

[C]

me say I was that little boy

[D]

and you told me you would come

[A]

and you promised, you promise.

[C]

You know I'm a man of my

[A]

word today because you aren't.

[B]

Wow, wow, wow, wow. That's a really famous rapper, by the way.

[D]

Is that logic right there?

[B]

Logic. That's.

[D]

Is that logic?

[B]

I never saw that.

[D]

One of the greatest rappers, white, black.

[C]

Is that really. Logic?

[B]

Eminem, rapper level. Yeah, yeah, that guy's nasty. Wow. I didn't know that.

[C]

I didn't know that was logic.

[B]

Yeah, I didn't. Until mid interview, I go, wait a minute. I saw the. The tattoos.

[C]

What do you think about that? What do you think about a son being that vulnerable with his father for not being there? The pain, the emotion. I could never do that to my son.

[B]

Insane. Like, I would never have him be on a curb and sitting wait, because guess what? He. Right when he said that, I knew that he was sitting on a curb as a kid, like, where's my dad? Oh, man.

[D]

Well, that's what I talked about where, you know, if you're poor, you're gonna have that motivation, right? He learned from his father. He said, I'm not. I'm gonna be present for my kids because you weren't present for me. So it comes down to this one thing. You don't have to have that generational curse in your family. You can be the person that stops the curse. Whether that's money, whether that's education, whether that's fatherhood, whether that's anything in life. You can be the person that. That makes the. The. The difference. So shout out to him for being the best version of himself.

[A]

Tom, you know, there's a reason that. That the Lord tells us, don't let the sun go down in your anger. And there's a reason that when Christ talked about all the characters of humanness, he said, but the greatest of these is love. And there's two simple truths about kids. Who is in their ear is always important. Kids, other parents. Who is in your kid's ear, number one. And number two, they're watching. They're watching you. When people get divorced and suddenly leave, they don't walk out on the spouse or walking out on the kid, because that's what the kid believes. Kids inherently believe, it's not my fault. I'm here, and your fight's not my fight. Adults in counseling help people unpack these woundings where you come later in life. And you say, my parents got divorced. That wasn't it says, it hurt. It hurt me, and I was innocent. And my dad tried to say, you don't understand. You had to live with my mom. You don't understand. You have to live with your dad. Parents don't leave each other. They leave Kids. And it is the power of faith in the Holy Spirit that gets you to a place where you can forgive, but not letting the sun go down on your anger and finding the love for those around you. Logic was giving his dad a gift there, the gift of transparency and the pain so that they could work from here. And I don't know what happened with Anthony Hopkins daughter, but he admitted he came into a kid and he said goodbye. The kid wasn't in the fight. The fight was the mom and Hopkins. I don't know the situation, I don't know the other facts, but you see it all the time where kids just draw a line. And the line is not a line of rejection typically it's a line of protection. If people say, that hurt me so bad, I'm going to put up a wall here because I won't be hurt again. Other times the kids are just putting up a line of anger, says, you've hurt me and I'm never going to let you close to me. But all of it, it's human tragedy. It's all human tragedy. And regardless how deep you go or how far you go, there's always a way out. And the way out is that Jesus Christ can heal. Even if the parent is never to be seen again or has passed away, he can heal the bitterness on our hearts and give us a way forward. And for those who are awake and available and are here, be careful of who's in your kids eyes and be objective about who you are and what you portray because they're watching.

[C]

That's great, you know, and I would tell you, humiliation, public loss causes people to run and get away from things. Sometimes a father's just not that present because, you know, the wife, embarrassment, the undermining, any of that stuff, stuff, it's nasty. It's one thing that the kid just wants, man, he just wants you around. That's what he wants. He just wants you around. He wants you to say, I believe in you, son. He wants you to say, you know, challenge him to do a little bit better. He wants you to give him the gift of time, quality time. Words, positive affirmations. And those are things that we can do. It doesn't require money, you know, and no matter, no matter how much money or how little money you got. I remember my dad had nothing when we would go and we would eat at a Burger King. We would eat because he could afford a Whopper and it was working at a 99 cent store. And I would go. The days that he had me, when I Would see him every other week, and we go to the 99 cent. He would make me a little sandwich, and we would sit there and listen to, you know, Persian music that he's playing. I mean, we would just listen to the song over and over again at Westwood or in, you know, Inglewood. And I would remember these. These. These moments. So you. You. You don't need all the money in the world to give your kids what they want. It isn't just money. They want words, they want belief, they want encouragement, they want playtime. And they want you to know you believe in them because society today isn't saying that a lot. And if the wrong person tells your kids they believe in them and they're the first to do so, typically their philosophy and ideology will be imposed on your kids. Do not be the last person that tells your kids I believe in them. Be the first. Never be the last one. Never be the one that doesn't do it. Start off when you get off the today's podcast and whatever you're doing for the people that are still watching, call your kids today. Make it an assignment. Write them a note. Tell them how much you believe in them and why. Here's why I believe in you.

[D]

You.

[C]

It'll be one of the best conversations you have with your kids. And if you haven't done it yet, it'll be an amazing moment, incredible reaction. They'll be shocked. But those of you guys that are doing it, don't even worry about it. Vinnie?

[B]

Yeah? Can I pick?

[A]

Look, I.

[B]

Okay, so the hot cakes and hot takes is going to be going live right after this. I think they're going to put a lower third with the QR code. Me and Emily Austin with Rob and Humberto. Amazing conversation stuff that you're not even going to know about her. We didn't even talk about politics. It was about hotcakes. Her tennis pro show was one tennis pro. So if you guys want to go, we're gonna go right after this. It's actually live.

[C]

Take care, everybody. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.