Epstein Files Released? Netanyahu's Iran Push, Fulton County FRAUD + Nicki Minaj PRAISES Trump | PBD

Summary

PBD Podcast Episode Summary

Title: Epstein Files Released? Netanyahu's Iran Push, Fulton County FRAUD + Nicki Minaj PRAISES Trump
Date: December 22, 2025
Host: Patrick Bet-David (“PBD”), with Vinny, Adam, Brandon, Humberto
Special Topics: The Epstein file release, conservative infighting (Turning Point USA feuds), Fulton County voter fraud revelations, Nicki Minaj’s remarks on Trump, state of the GOP, child stars, inflation, social media’s impact on teens, Yale’s liberal dominance, and more.

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Episode Overview

This high-energy episode dives into several concurrent, headline-making controversies: the latest releases from the Epstein files, internecine warfare within the conservative movement, exposed election irregularities in Fulton County, and Nicki Minaj’s unexpected public support for Trump and Christianity. The Home Team weaves through heated news, culture flashpoints, and powerful commentary, underscored by signature banter and real takes.

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Key Segments & Insights

1. Conservative Civil War: The Turning Point USA Fiasco

[10:53–48:49]

• Background: Turning Point USA’s latest event erupts into a public feud—Ben Shapiro, Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, and more trade barbs over the soul and direction of conservatism, Israel, and infighting.
• Major Quotes:
  • Megyn Kelly on Ben Shapiro:

    “Ben thinks he has the power to decide who gets excommunicated from the conservative movement... as if he’s the head cheerleader” (Megyn Kelly, [13:07])

  • Pat:

    “While all this is going on, what do you think the other side, the Left, is doing? Nice and quiet. You guys. Go ahead. Eat each other alive.” ([23:30])

• Breakdown:
  • Shapiro launches public criticism at several names, stoking splits.
  • Kelly fires back, criticizing Shapiro for dictating the movement and excluding dialogue.
  • Adam and Vinny debate whether asking questions (i.e., Candace’s probing) constitutes healthy skepticism versus destructive insinuation.
  • Pat and the team lament lack of a “synergist”—someone who unifies, like the late Charlie Kirk:
    • Vinny:

      “Who's the synergist today of the Republican Party? … There really isn't one.” ([30:19])

    • Adam:

      “The new leaders are going to come from your YouTube account, not from your cable account.” ([31:11])

  • Pat argues the endless infighting only enables the political Left.
  • Urgent call:

    “Call the effing shot. Call the meeting. You know who you are.” (Vinny, [44:55])

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2. Election Integrity: Fulton County Under Fire

[65:35–80:55]

• Story: Fulton County, Georgia, admits to massive 2020 ballot processing lapses, reigniting voter fraud accusations.
• Key Details:
  • 315,000 votes allegedly counted improperly.
  • Lawyer admits to unsigned vote tabulation tapes:

    “We don't dispute the allegation... we were wrong. We violated, we cheated.” (Vinny/Pat, [71:05])

• Debate:
  • Pat and Vinny see this as proof of systemic fraud, refusing to ‘move on’ without accountability.
  • Adam points out: court cases found little cause to overturn election results, and that Trump won Georgia would not have flipped the overall election.
  • The hosts argue the issue is about trust in the system, not just past results.
• Memorable Pat quote:

  “If you tainted in one, the whole thing's tainted.” ([77:13])

• Consensus: Even if each side disagrees about the scale, all agree future elections must address these vulnerabilities.

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3. The Epstein Files: Murky “Transparency”

[81:01–101:59]

• Event: DOJ releases trove of Epstein files and photos, including images of Bill Clinton; key details are redacted.
• Highlights:
  • Bill Clinton’s shirtless hot tub photo creates a media storm.
  • Pat and Vinny point to numerous pictures of Epstein with minors, raising alarm about the scale and cover-up of abuse.
  • But most released documents are heavily redacted, providing little new public information.

    “It's all black.” (Jake Tapper, cited by Vinny, [99:57])

• Division:
  • Adam trusts the current DOJ/Deputy AG process to protect victims and follow the law.
  • Vinny and Pat demand arrests for powerful “Johns” connected to Epstein, not just Maxwell’s conviction.
  • Pat:

    “Somebody should be going down. She's the only one in jail... so that should tell you that the people here are like, shut up.” ([94:21])

• Scott Jennings soundbite:

  “This is the Clinton files. This is blowing up in the face of Democrats.” ([101:39])

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4. Pop Culture & Social Issues

a. Nicki Minaj at Turning Point USA

[02:58–21:28]

• Nicki Minaj wows Turning Point USA crowd by defending Christianity, sharing her position in a public forum otherwise dominated by political heavyweights.

b. Child Stars, Addiction & Hollywood Abuse

[51:15–57:10]

• Viral video of former Nickelodeon star Tyler Chase homeless and addicted stirs debate on the fate of child actors and Hollywood’s predatory culture.
• The hosts recount personal encounters and cite similar stories (Amanda Bynes, Delonte West), underscoring the industry’s dark underbelly and need for better parenting guides.

c. Social Media and Kids

[57:11–65:35]

• Citing a new Fox News poll (64% want social media banned for under-16s), the panel discuss the toxicity of constant phone/internet exposure.
• Consensus: Social media for children is “the most dangerous drug” and should be strictly limited.

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5. Campus & Academia: Woke Monoculture

[121:11–132:33]

• Buckley Institute reports: nearly 30 Yale departments have NO Republican faculty.

  “83% of faculty are Dems… only 3% Republican. Those three are about to get killed.” (Pat, [123:01])

• Brandon shares his experience, saying he had to write liberal-leaning papers to avoid bad grades despite national security being his field.
• The team skewer elite universities for claiming ideological diversity while practicing groupthink and stifling debate.

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6. Economy, Inflation & Perceptions

[111:02–120:52]

• Biden admin claims “extraordinary year ahead” with inflation dropping to 2.7%.
• Brandon exposes how CPI numbers mislead (“inflation isn’t down, it’s just going up slower”), hitting affordability for ordinary Americans.
• Adam: “Would you rather have Kamala than Trump? Trump is doing net positive for the long-term American economy.” ([118:54]–[120:37])

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7. Sports: Jake Paul vs. Anthony Joshua, Andrew Tate’s Loss

[137:41–145:32]

• Jake Paul and Anthony Joshua earn record payouts for their fight; Paul’s jaw broken.
• Adam notes the spectacle is more about entertainment than boxing integrity.
• The team debates whether influencers elevate or delegitimize pro boxing.
• Adam predicts a future fight between social titans Jake Paul and Andrew Tate would break the internet.

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8. Heartstrings: Why Dogs Love Humans

[146:00–152:00]

• Tender segment on the bond between humans and dogs, triggered by Vinny losing his two best canine friends in the span of two weeks.
• Science: Both humans and dogs release oxytocin (“bonding hormone”) when gazing at each other.
• Emotional notes on loss, resilience, and the role of pets as family.

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Other Notable Quotes & Moments

• Pat, on conservative infighting:

  “You know what the Republican party did in 2024 is known as the greatest comeback in politics—maybe ever.” ([38:11])

• Adam, on social media:

  “The cell phone is the most dangerous drug known to man at this point, especially for teenagers.” ([62:18])

• Vinny, on Yale:

  “Yo, what happened to you, Yale? Did you drink some of that fruit punch that made all of you guys into liberals?” ([126:40])

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Memorable Segments & Timestamps

• Megyn Kelly on Ben Shapiro’s “excommunication” attempt
  [12:23–14:55]

• Turning Point USA Drama / Conservative “Synergist”
  [28:08–32:31]

• Fulton County Admits Voting Violations
  [68:07–72:03]

• Epstein Photos of Bill Clinton & DOJ Redactions
  [81:01–101:23]

• Jake Paul’s Broken Jaw Viral Clip
  [138:14–139:20]

• Pat eulogizes his late dogs & why the human-canine bond is so deep
  [146:19–152:00]

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Takeaways

• Deep fractures remain in the conservative movement following Charlie Kirk’s death, leaving an urgent need for unifying leadership.
• The public remains deeply skeptical about election integrity, to the point where procedural revelations are seen as potential proof of “the big lie.”
• The Epstein files release added fuel—but few new facts—to years-long allegations; frustration over lack of legal accountability persists.
• Social and cultural issues (from Hollywood’s impact on kids to the dangers of uncurated social media) consistently cut across political lines.
• Economic pain (inflation, housing) remains the number one issue for many, regardless of party spin.
• Academia is lampooned as an echo chamber with little true diversity of thought.

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Tone & Style

The episode maintains PBD's signature mix of camaraderie, sharp insight, and confrontational debate. The hosts move dynamically between somber (e.g., loss, child abuse), serious (fraud, legalities), and irreverent (sports banter, pop culture), all without losing pace or authenticity.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Pat]

30 seconds.

[Vinny]

Did you ever think you would make it? Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever saw. It's right here. I don't think I ever said this before. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I put it back on. I put it back.

[Pat]

Oh, my God, guys.

[Vinny]

I was gonna put a shirt on my blue shirt because it's flipping freezing here. My shirt's off. Humberto starts screaming, put the shirt on. And I was able to get the shirt on. Anyways, sorry, ladies, if you notice, I didn't say Rob because Rob's not with us today. Here's Humberto. Can we focus on Humberto, please? Humberto, say hello to everybody. Let them get your voice so they know who you are.

[Brandon]

Bear with me. We're gonna have a great show.

[Vinny]

He's phenomenal on the Unusual Suspect, and Tom's not with us here today. Tom had some construction stuff he was working on with some Foreman and his family. It was like a big argument, and I'm like, listen, I don't. You deal with your personal life while we got this together. But Tom is on a flight, so Brandon's here with us. And then we have two guys here with us. You guys may recognize two bachelors, same age, but easy with the same age. One year apart, buddy. Relax. Two years.

[Pat]

Relax.

[Adam]

And a lot more gray hair.

[Vinny]

Two years. Who's got more gray hair?

[Pat]

You think I got more gray hair in your beard?

[Adam]

You've been shaving it these days. Anyway, we miss you, Tom. I know you're thinking, looking at the comments. Let me just make the comment now. We miss you, buddy.

[Vinny]

All right, so listen, weird weekend. Weird, weird, weird weekend. A lot of weird things happen this weekend. Jake Paul had a fight. $92 million payday. Anthony Joshua fought and won and broke Jake's jaw. But I got to tell you, man, I really, really. And I know this is going to sound. I really like Jake Paul. I just really like the guy. There's something about him I like. And he got in the ring. This guy truly is a fighter, like, not a. He may not be a professional boxer. Boxer at the level of Anthony Joshua. He's really trying, but he's a fighter, like the DNA of a fighter. Not giving up and getting in the ring and wanting to do that. Tate also had a fight. It didn't work out for him politically. It was a very weird weekend. A bunch of new Epstein stuff was released. There's this event that's taking place in Arizona that's kind of a Big deal. Everybody's there. And it turned into a fight. Debates back and forth, comments being made, you know, Shapiro, Tucker. And then you have Megyn Kelly, you know, comments about Ben Shapiro. And then Candace jumped in and then, you know, Vivek had a few things to say. And then all of a sudden Nicki Minaj shows up and she does her thing with Erica Kirk and defending Christianity and given her position, which by the way, we got to respect the hell out of the fact that she did that.

[Pat]

I love her.

[Vinny]

And then JD Shows up and does his thing. We'll have a bunch of things to talk about that. Epstein new pictures released. Bill Clinton rough weekend. Another one definitely rough weekend with a lot of pictures that showed up and couple. Did you see the picture with the miners? The legs that were in the. On the plane and did you see that one? Yeah. So anyways, we'll get into that and very, very weird stories there. Fulton county voting under scrutiny after signature comments. I don't know if you guys saw this or not. Vinnie definitely did.

[Pat]

Oh yeah.

[Vinny]

And he's got some thoughts on it. Deputy AG Todd Blanche says Jalain Maxwell was transferred to a minimum security prison because of numerous threats against our life. Adam has some thoughts on this. I have no clue what the hell Adam wants to say about this, but he's got some thoughts on it. At least 9 billion billed across 19 Medicaid services in Minnesota may be fraudulent. Top prosecutor says Vinny's got some thoughts. The biggest fraud in welfare according to Wall Street Journal. Wall Street Journal is talking about the biggest fraud in the history of welfare. Nearly 30 Yale undergrads departments have no Republican faculty. Let me say that one more time. 30 Yale undergraduate departments have no Republican faculty. Buckley Institute report finds Brandon's got thoughts on that. Sam Bankman Fried has new pursuit. Jailhouse lawyer Megyn Kelly and Barry Weiss have a little feud going on. You got. Bill Clinton's chief of staff is pissed off. You got the Turning Point USA stuff. We'll get into 500 pages of Epstein stuff was released. A UFC fighter says he will not be going to the White House fight because of what's going on. He said I'm good, dude. He just doesn't want to deal with it. It is what it is. Kushner and Witkoff got $112 billion proposal to develop Gaza into a smart city with luxury resorts. And. And they're willing to give a good discount. Vinny, if you're interested on that property. US footing $60 billion bill Tucker Carlson's.

[Adam]

Buying a place There.

[Vinny]

Yeah, France.

[Pat]

Because he's American.

[Vinny]

One in three Muslims in France, folks respect. One in three Muslims in France want Sharia law. Nice to rule entire world. It's kind of like it's. No, it's got to be more than that.

[Pat]

Hey, ladies, where you at?

[Adam]

Oh, I have a great video for that.

[Pat]

Ladies. Sharia. Good luck.

[Vinny]

Commerce secretary predicts extraordinary head of inflation drops to 2.7%. By the way, wait till you see what inflation's been the last 90 days. Just kind of funny. No one's talking about it, but one guy did. And. And we'll share that. 64 of Americans support banning teenagers from using social media. Yesterday we went to the Apple store to buy my sister. It was her birthday yesterday. Paulette, happy birthday. 38. 38 years old.

[Adam]

Yes, she's my age. Congratulations, Paulette.

[Vinny]

You're looking.

[Adam]

You're aging backwards. We love you.

[Vinny]

But anyways, we're at the Apple store and we're getting an iPhone. And then Brooklyn looks at me and says, daddy, can I get an iPhone? You can't get an iPhone. Tico's like, dude, I'm 13 years old and I can't get on social media, let alone you. You got to wait a decade plus. Love, Dave Chappelle had some things to say about Adam. When you drink tea, don't sip in front of the mic. That you sound like an Armenian right now when you do that.

[Pat]

Hey, do not talk trash, by the way.

[Vinny]

You want to know?

[Adam]

I will deal with everything.

[Vinny]

There was a park in Glendale. There was a park in Glendale off of Adams and Wilson. We would go to. You know how grandparents in in there drink tea. They would play Nardi and this is how they drink tea. That's how they drives me crazy. You want to know if somebody's Armenian?

[Adam]

That's shout out to my Armenian brethren.

[Vinny]

You may want to ask.

[Adam]

Do not talk trash about Armenians, Mama.

[Vinny]

She knows in Armenia in the past. All right, now, last but not least, why dogs love you so much. A study by Telegraph, according to science. And that's a special one. I'm going to read that one as well.

[Pat]

At the end, I walk in the house, say, paul's dog love me.

[Vinny]

Yeah, Vivi. V. At first I'm like, is the dog's name bb? No, no, bb. I said, wait a minute, cuz you name a dog bb.

[Pat]

Remember?

[Vinny]

Something going on here.

[Pat]

He got the call.

[Vinny]

Dog's definitely not named bb. Okay. We had a great combo last night, but it's definitely not named bb. And we got a couple other Things I want to show to you guys. That's going to be awesome. We got some big news today. Let me tell you what the big news is. Here's what the big news is. The other night, my wife's hosting some of her friends over at the house. We with Bible study. Anyways, they're doing their thing, they're having their food, they're laughing. And I come in. There's like 20 cars in front of our house. My security freaks out. He's thinking something's going on. I said, no, no, no. I think there's something. I think Jen told me and I forgot. Obviously, I forget. We had some. And I come in, this lady walks up to me, we start talking. Very nice lady. She says, oh, I see the shoes you're wearing. She says, are those the shoes you've worn 3,000 days in a row? She says, after hearing you talk about it, that you've been wearing it for so many days, I eventually bought one for my husband. So guess what, folks? You know what I'm wearing today?

[Pat]

3001.

[Vinny]

Let me tell you when I tell you in since September 9, September 10, I've worn this every day except for three days. I'm not kidding with you. It's the most comfortable shoes in the world. It's the product that you see us talk about every single flipping day. But today's special. Let me tell you why it's special. You know what just showed up? Nice. The whites officially showed up to our factory first time ever. And the navy blues showed up first time ever. By the way, this is now in our fourth order because they sell out. So if you're somebody that's wondering, why are people loving these FLB shoes? You may want to watch this video and find out for yourself and then go place an order for someone you love. But this white one just came absolutely sick. Look at the bottom of it with the FLB on the bottom. Watch this clip and it will take you to VT Merch and we'll go from there. Go ahead. We're going to Humberto to create a shoe that blends comfort, function and luxury. We had the choice to make it fast. We had the choice to make it cheap. We chose neither. Instead, we chose Tuscany, Italy. We chose true Italian craftsmanship. Each pair touched by 50 skilled hands. We chose patience, spending two years perfecting every detail. And we chose the finest quality at every step. Introducing the future. Looks bright collection. Not rushed. Not disposable. Not ordinary. Rather intentional. Luxurious. Timeless. There you go. Humberto. Do you want to go to vtmerch.com oh, you're wearing it today. Good for you. By the way, there's nothing like wearing these shoes and you're sitting in a boardroom or in a conference room or anywhere at dinner and you put your feet like this and everybody sees it and they say, you got to be kidding me. Go all the way down. Remember, these are 100% made in Italy. 100%. Five factories with the on cloud foam on the bottom, the super foam technology on the bottom so it's comfortable and light when you wear it. And if you compare them to the Berluti, Fergamo, Zenia's, Gucci's, the price difference is insane. So if you haven't placed an order or two, the list we get of people that are buying, I can't say the names until these people wear it. You would be amazed who's ordering these shoes for Christmas for themselves and their families. Go to vtmerch.com Place an order or two. One for yourself, one for somebody you love or maybe your husband. Someone else you got out there so they can wear the FLB shoes. The white and navy blue is here. The sizes, if you're wondering what's already been outsized. 13 sold out for navy blue. Not available size navy blue. Oh, my God. It just goes very quickly. Okay. On what sizes are there. But go place your order and it'll tell you when it's going to be delivered. All right, let's get right into it. Let's start off with Turning Point usa. Okay. I think it's fair to say a lot of attentions go to has gone to Turning Point usa, which by the way, for the people that are putting it together, that's a good thing. You want a little bit of controversy, you want a little bit of challenges. It helps the brand because everyone's watching now. It is a very weird setting that's taken place with the challenges. We talked about it last week.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

The first speakers came out, Ben Shapiro. Boom. Puts everybody on blast. Calls out Tucker, calls out Megan, calls out Candace. Opening 20 minute speech, gets off the stage. Tucker comes back. We address this. He comes back, says, did something happen earlier? Did I miss anything? I don't think I missed anything. I wasn't paying attention anyways. No, I'm lying. I did. I watch it. So kind of, he gave a speech and he called everybody and then he said, why are we so scared about Muslims? And then all these things, people are like, wait a minute, why are you bringing Muslims into this at a Christian event? And Then afterwards, Humberto, if you're with me in sequencing, is it fair to go to Megyn Kelly next when she was asked about. About. What do you call it? Ben Shapiro's comments? Not the Barry Wise. Let's go to Megyn Kelly with Ben Shapiro first. Megyn Kelly's being asked about Ben Shapiro and she reacts and she's like, you know, we used to be friends. Humberto, if you don't have it, just go on Twitter and find it. You do have it. Okay, I think. Is that the one? Press it to see if that's the one.

[Adam]

There was also some response where it.

[Vinny]

Seemed like that call was being co signed by the new head of CBS News, Barry White. And I wanted to know if you wanted to respond to that as well. No, this is the second one. Humberto. What I want to show is making Kelly comment. I don't know if you. Did you guys see what she said about Ben Shapiro? Yes. Yeah, she made a comment about Ben Shapiro. If you just go on X, you'll be able to find it. I'll send it to you here.

[Adam]

This is the one. She said, we used to be friends, but I put him on.

[Vinny]

She.

[Adam]

Well, I helped him start his career. But this was a. I think it's.

[Vinny]

Very important for the audience to see it. I think it's very important for it. It's right there, Rob. Right there. Humberto. Okay, make that one bigger. Go ahead.

[Pat]

Your name came up on this stage.

[Vinny]

Last night in regards to pretty much all of this.

[Adam]

Would you like the opportunity to respond?

[Erica Kirk]

Well, I found it kind of funny that Ben thinks he has the power to decide who gets excommunicated from the conservative movement, which shows a willful blindness about his position in. Reminded me a little of when the girl who was the head of our middle school chorus told me she was going to take all my friends away from me.

[Pat]

Chorus.

[Erica Kirk]

A head cheerleader, maybe, but. So I resent the whole thing. I object to the whole thing. Ben and I, he. He had the nerve to call me a friend right before he called me a despicable coward for not calling out the people he wants called out. So he both wants to parent me and be my child. He wants to tell me what I have to do and who I have to say what to. And then when I don't, he and some of his friends want to act like utter victims because I won't do what they say they need me. I have to be their daddy and step in to protect them. And I am not their daddy. And I resent that he thinks he's in a position to decide who must say what to whom and when. Thank you. So I don't think we are friends anymore. I've been a very good friend to Ben. Nobody knew who the heck Ben Shmiro was when I started putting him on my shows on the Fox News Channel and I helped make him a star. And I've been very, very good to Ben over the years, and he's been.

[Brandon]

Good to me, too.

[Erica Kirk]

He just recently came on my tour, as did you, and I gave him the most kind introduction I could possibly give him because I know that he's losing subscribers a lot. And so I tried to do something nice for him by giving him a long 10 minute intro and personally vouching for him. And we mixed it up on Israel, out on stage. It wasn't Israel because we're on the same place in Israel. We mixed it up over whether Tucker Carlson should be excommunicated from the conservative movement, which I do not believe, and thank you. And when it was over, we hugged, said goodbye, and then we had a nice text exchange a couple days later saying our friendship was important to us. And the next thing I saw was him attacking me on stage last night as a coward.

[Vinny]

So that's not Adam, your thoughts?

[Adam]

So Ben is not doing any favors by making an enemy of Megyn Kelly. I think Megyn Kelly is a very, very necessary voice and it doesn't make any sense to make her an enemy. Other than that, I agree with everything he said and did. So you know James Lindsay, I think we had him on the podcast. Maybe not James Lindsay. This is what he had to say about what it means to start a splinter cell. So Charlie Kirk and Nick Fuentes were not friends. Is that fair to say?

[Vinny]

No.

[Pat]

No.

[Adam]

Okay. If anything, Charlie Kirk vehemently opposed everything that Nick Fuentes says and does and is. I've spent time with Nick. We spent time with Nick. People ask me all the time, condemn Nick. He's the worst. I go, he's a young kid. He has time to grow. Tucker Carlson, on the other hand, he's not doing anybody any favors by saying, I buy houses in Qatar.

[Vinny]

Why?

[Adam]

Because I'm an American. What kind of bullshit are you spewing? Candace made the, in my opinion, absolute stupid sin of attacking a grieving widow. And what Erica Kirk has done when she said, I'm busy building. If anything, if you're ever like, what should your default position be? It should be be there for the grieving widow and mother of two kids without A father. And Charlie Kirk's legacy, that's a. That's like a default position for me. So Candace attacks that Erica has been nothing but classy. And basically she said, I'm working, I'm building. Do you think that Charlie Kirk wants Turning Point Amfest, which they did this weekend, to carry on or to die off? Clearly to carry on. So when she's going out there saying, I don't have time for the bs, I'm working, I'm building, this is what she's building. So Ben, I think for the most part, was absolutely right about talking about the splinter cells that are being built within Turning Point. And Megan Kelly is. My opinion is not part of that. Tucker is. Nick Fuentes is trying to be. But he's a destroyer, not a builder. Talented at that. He's an absolute destroyer, not a builder. And Candace, to me, is doing something that. Candace was very beloved by many people. This is the challenge with Candace. Everybody appreciated Candace. Everybody enjoyed Candace. I did my best not to attack Candace about disagreements, whether it's Israel, whether it's blm, whether it's feminism. We invite the criticism, we divide debate. For me, the red line is you don't attack a grieving widow and you don't accuse Turning Point of murdering their leader. To me, that's a non start.

[Vinny]

But when you say that Megyn Kelly came out and said that never happened. Okay. At an event, at an event that she had. Because Ben Shapiro came out and said that she accused Ben, Accused her of accusing Candace of accusing Erica. I know this is like a lot of accusing a lot of them. And then Megan came out and said, no, that never happened. Well, then.

[Pat]

Well, it's true, right?

[Brandon]

What do you mean by attacked?

[Adam]

What do you mean?

[Brandon]

Like, what do you mean by attacked? Like, which point? Like, when did she attack her?

[Adam]

What are you asking?

[Brandon]

When you said Candace attacked Erica, what do you mean by that?

[Adam]

Have you not watched?

[Brandon]

No, I have. Like I. I have specifically sad the other day.

[Adam]

And he goes, just. I just want to say. You just do. Do some research. Three months ago, Candace was averaging 1 to 2 million views an episode. Okay? Follow the money, follow the views. Now she's averaging 4 to 5 million. Doing what? Attacking Turning Point. So don't play dumb with me. That you don't know exactly what Candace is doing. And Candace doesn't need to come out and say, I think Erica Kirk killed her husband. But when you do every thumbnail with the faces of Turning Point, you make assertations and you insinuate, hey, I don't know, but I know, but I know. No, but I know, but I know. What the hell do you know? To me, that's just a red line. God forbid anything happened to pbd. The last person I'm questioning is Jen or the people in this room or Tom. Why would. To me. That's so disgusting. To me. That's it. Other than that, the beautiful thing about the conservative movement is debate, debate, debate, debate.

[Vinny]

Let's stay. Let's stay on this with, with Megyn Kelly. What do you think about what Megan Kelly said? Brandon?

[Brandon]

No, I think it's totally fair. And I, I think that, you know, Shapiro is being weird about this and, yeah, he's. He's losing subscribers because, like, an 8 million subscriber channel is getting an average of less than 100,000 views per episode. Not by accident. And I, I'm. I'm still unclear on what you like, what's the difference between asking questions and attacking? I think there's a big difference. I. I'm thankful that Candace is still actively asking questions because there's a ton of, like, an endless supply of weird things that haven't been answered.

[Adam]

Fair enough. You should ask questions. But there's a differ. Like Tucker for Exit, for instance, plays dumb. Is it better to be dumb or play dumb? Huh? I don't know. Let me just pretend I don't know what an ally or an enemy is. I don't know. What's an ally?

[Vinny]

I don't know. What does that even mean?

[Adam]

And then says the next sentence. Qatar is a huge ally of ours, and I'm buying a house in Qatar because I'm an American. To me, that's playing dumb. When Candace insinuates, I don't know, but I know, but I know, but I know you're playing dumb. So if I asked you a stupid line of questioning. So, Brandon, like, how does it feel to be gay? And you're like, I'm not gay. It's like, well, I don't know. I'm just asking because a lot of people are saying that you're gay. You're like, I definitely have a girlfriend. But it's like, I don't know, bro. You're asking seem gay.

[Pat]

Yeah, but so then at some point.

[Adam]

You'Re gonna be like, dude, shut up.

[Brandon]

But there's reasons for her to ask the questions she's asking. She's not coming out of left field and asking a question.

[Adam]

Let me ask you direct questions. So without the. Do you think Erica Kirk is happy with what Candace is doing or Very upset. Answer that.

[Brandon]

No, I think she's upset with that.

[Adam]

Bingo.

[Brandon]

And they had a long conversation the other because of it.

[Adam]

And is Erica moving on from that and want to address that or she's staying stuck in Candace mode?

[Brandon]

I'm not going to pretend to know what's going on.

[Vinny]

Well, I'm just.

[Adam]

Let's use the words. You don't need to pretend. She said I addressed it, we're moving on. And she put together an event. By the way, why isn't Candace in any of these events? Why doesn't she show up?

[Brandon]

Because she's asking difficult questions about the people that you can't show up. I don't think they want her.

[Adam]

So to me, that's a non starter. Candace, quote, unquote, friend of Charlie Kirk, friend of the organization. Now she's an enemy. She's going about this all the wrong way by just asking questions.

[Brandon]

But what's the right way? By forgetting it? Because like, I'm thankful that she's kept the conversation alive because if it wasn't for that, we move on from things so fast.

[Adam]

Who's moving on from this?

[Brandon]

Everybody.

[Adam]

Investigation.

[Brandon]

Everybody's moved on from the investigation. What are you talking about?

[Adam]

Nobody's moved on. Like everybody's moving on.

[Brandon]

The only reason we're still talking about is because Candace is asking questions.

[Adam]

Candace, is the only reason that people are focused still on Charlie Kirk.

[Vinny]

Yes.

[Adam]

And it didn't have to do with the fact that they just had a massive organizational meeting.

[Vinny]

Let me ask you a different.

[Adam]

Okay, everyone's focused on inflation.

[Vinny]

Let me ask you a different question. When it comes down to this net positive for the Republican Party, rank them.

[Adam]

Today in what regard?

[Vinny]

That's helping for midterms that's coming up next year and for 2028. Net positive, man. Net positive.

[Brandon]

That, that's tough. I'd say maybe J.D. vance is a net positive, maybe Marco Rubio net positive. But like, as far as like people on social media go, Tucker's kind of splitting the base. Ben Shapiro splitting the base. Megyn Kelly's not as much splitting the base. Candace is definitely splitting the base. So yeah, all the biggest public figures.

[Vinny]

What is, what is, what is break down. What do you think the Republican Party right now needs? Vinny, I'll come to you. What do you think the Republican Party right now needs with everything that's going on with Megyn Kelly? Okay, the comments she made. So the Ben Shapiro comments, the Tucker comments. Then there's also a video of Candace calling out Ben Shapiro. If you want to play that clip as well of. I'm sure you have that out there saying fu. Ben Shapiro.

[Pat]

It's right beneath. Right underneath the Megyn Kelly one that you have right there. Right where you highlight underneath.

[Brandon]

You know what they need.

[Vinny]

Go ahead, play this clip.

[Pat]

With it. This one is so fully off of.

[Vinny]

The mother effing plantation.

[Pat]

Truly, Ben Shapiro. Fuck you and the midget horse that you rode in on. And I say that on behalf of the world. I know you're gonna get applauded by Constantine Kissen and Andrew Christ is King Clavin and all of the people, the men who have to keep applauding what you do, like you're a 4 year old to make you feel good, but the rest of the world can't stand you. You're obnoxious. You have absolutely no values that exist outside of the Talmud. You describe yourself as a Talmudic Jew.

[Vinny]

What do you think? What do you think? What's going on with everything?

[Pat]

Well, a. It's obviously not helping the movement because at the end of the day. At the end of the day, and we've had many conversations about this, the real enemy. The real enemy, okay? Foreign and domestic, all that stuff. While all this is going on, what do you think the other side, the left is doing? What do you think, Gavin? Notice how Gavin, during this. Nice and quiet, you guys. Go ahead. Eat each other alive, all of you. Who else? Adam knows what's brewing and I get it. And I already know some of the audience, like how, oh, you guys are moving on. It's not about the midterms. No, no, listen. There's the guy that allegedly shot Charlie, God rest his soul, is in court. We're going to find stuff out, okay? Yes, I have questions. The George Zinn. Who the hell was that guy? Who was he working for? Don't. Don't even try to act like that guy wasn't involved with the situation. So there's a. There's a bunch of layers. And I, God willing, I have hope they're gonna figure it out and let people ask questions. Okay. What it's doing for us. Thank God. J.D. vance. At least, bro. At least I know Nick and all these guys, all Palantir. He puts like nine different connections. His father's uncles. I don't give a damn. Thank God JD went out there and said, hey, guys, enough of this nonsense. Enough with transgenders. Enough with the fighting. It's America, ok? Stop. Focus. All this soap opera crap that's happening. Focus on the thing at hand. Pat. And I hate this Ben Shapiro, by the way, Ben Shapiro. When's the last time he even did anything with Turning Point? He's not involved with Turning Point. Him and Charlie. It's not like him and Charlie were boys. They're not. They didn't hang out all the time. And you know what it is, Pat? It's the common denominator. And, and why he's losing all this. All these subscribers. I think the big common denominator. And what started with Candace. Why did Candace get fired from Turning Point? I mean, I'm sorry, not Turning Point. Daily Wire, her comments she made about genocide. This all goes to Israel. And Ben's. Ben, yes, he's. He loves America, but he's hardcore Israel. And the common denominator with Tucker and Candace and Nick and Megan Kelly. And they criticized, obviously some more than other Israel. And Ben is hardcore Israel. And shame on him. You open up Turning Point, you haven't been there in years, and you crap on everybody there. Enough of that. Okay, America first. Talk about us. While the slithering snake, Gavin Newsom is waiting, Pat, he's in the grass drooling and waiting like the snake that he is for these opportunities. And it's going to be him, and I believe it's going to be J.D.

[Brandon]

Vance.

[Pat]

OK, enough already. Enough. And then it's splintering them because who, who.

[Adam]

That's.

[Pat]

Everybody's just eating each other alive. And the other side's like this. The Jasmine Crocketts, the AOCs, the Bernie's, the Gavins, they're laughing their asses off. And if I hear another person go, all y' all care about the midterms, let them flip the House, let them flip the Senate. And then when Gavin Newsom wins and they open the border, I don't want to hear none of you complain. I. I don't want to hear one mouth open, because that's what they're going to do. And we're going to get to Georgia. They openly cheated. That's the biggest story. And nobody's talking about it. You know what people are talking about? Candace said this about Ben and Megan. I don't even care. I don't care. Because the first order of business is going to be open the border, transgender push and all. And we're going to go back to four years ago. Ok, enough, Enough. And I'm tired of it. And Ben should grow the hell up, too. They're all. They're all at Fort Fault, but Ben's one of the main ones. He needs. He needs to come shut up or represent the country.

[Brandon]

And he didn't even support Trump at first. And Pat.

[Pat]

Yeah, no, he hated Trump. He said it on camera.

[Brandon]

You asked what the party needs. I think what they need is, like, a common enemy that we could all agree on. I mean, like, think about when the year of the election, everybody who's even slightly conservative or even independent unified together into the most important thing in the world is getting Trump elected. So, you know, right now it's like, what's the most important thing in the world to the Republican base? And I don't think we have any idea.

[Pat]

It's the fight against Tucker Nixon.

[Vinny]

But you have. But you have to realize, though, this is why it goes to me to basic thing like this. Everybody in the Republican Party needs to buy this book called Barbarians to Bureaucrats.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

Okay. And let me explain to you why. It explains what every organization, society, goes through if you're not too careful. Mark 21 said, History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme. Okay. Which if you go a little bit lower. Go a little bit lower. Go a little bit lower. Keep going lower. Keep going lower. On the third page, go to page three. This page is the most important page of what's going on in America right now. Okay? It shows how everything gets started and how everything falls and disintegrates. Okay. Number one, it's what you have a prophet who is the prophet of Turning Point usa.

[Pat]

Charlie.

[Vinny]

Okay. Charlie Kirk, who's a prophet of America? George Washington. Benjamin Rush. Right. Benjamin Franklin, Jefferson, Adams. Those guys. Then after the prophet, you have barbarians. Barbarians are the ones that are willing to go out there and do the work, the nasty work. The campus. I'm going to go to the campus and I'm going to do debates. Crowder. Crowder's a prophet and a barbarian. He went out there sitting out. Charlie's a prophet and a barbarian. He went out there sitting down, talking. Then you bring builders and explorers. These are people that build companies. They build media companies, they build alliances, they build partnerships, they build things that create opportunity for others, which is what you need. And then that becomes reliance on principles and processors. Then shows up the administrator, the bureaucrat, and the aristocrat, and it's gone. And a bureaucrat, an aristocrat is somebody that's been around the space for too long, that they automatically have trust because you've been watching them and listening to them for 20 plus years, and you think they're it. And you know what is the only way to save this fall from happening? Is a synergist showing up you see that all the way in the top? That's a synergist.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

Last night we're having dinner. We have family over, and we're having a conversation. Can you tell me, Charlie Kirk, did he ever call out Candace Owens?

[Adam]

Not by name, but he.

[Vinny]

He did. He did. He said, I don't agree with some of the things, but did he ever disrespect.

[Pat]

No, no.

[Vinny]

Did he ever call out Tucker Carlson? Did he ever call out and disrespect any of these guys?

[Pat]

No.

[Vinny]

Did he disagree with them?

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

Did he disagree with Ben Shapiro? Did he disagree with some of the things Israel was doing? Yes, but Tucker was a. What? He was a synergist today.

[Adam]

Tucker. You mean Charlie?

[Vinny]

I'm sorry? Charlie was a synergist.

[Adam]

Charlie was.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

If you sit down today, now that Charlie the synergist is not here, everyone's lost control. Everybody has lost control. Right. Who's the synergist today of the Republican Party? Is that Vivek?

[Brandon]

I would say that.

[Vinny]

Is it J.D.

[Brandon]

Trump acted as that for a period of time.

[Vinny]

Trump acted as that for a period of time. But you can't keep relying on that guy. It's a second term. Pretty much his third term. He's going to be done.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

Okay. But who is that today?

[Pat]

There really isn't one.

[Adam]

The name.

[Vinny]

Is it Megan Kelly? Megan, Try to be. She's not it.

[Pat]

No, there is.

[Vinny]

Is it Ben Shapiro? Definitely not Ben Shapiro. Ben is not a synergist.

[Pat]

There's no synergist.

[Vinny]

Is it? Is it? It's definitely not Candace. She's not trying to synergize. Right. Tucker's not trying to synergize. Who's the synergist?

[Brandon]

To be determined.

[Vinny]

To be determined.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Pat]

That's not. Not right now is not the good time to have a tbd.

[Adam]

Let me. Pat's absolutely right. I wrote down the word synergist here. We talk about this all the time. In Charlie's death, we realize how important and what a mighty figure he was in the conservative movement and to America at the time, we didn't fully, fully, fully, fully realize how important he was. You've been very complimentary of him. You said he's one of 17. Yeah. You've been very. Yeah, I've said out loud and proud. That's the guy. But after his death, we realized, wow, he really was the guy, by the.

[Pat]

Way, and that's why they killed him.

[Adam]

Everyone here is at his event that he created Turning Point. So let's not dismiss this. So these splinter movements are starting. Nick's trying to be the groiper guy, and Candace is doing her Scooby Doo investigation thing. And Tucker's moving to Qatar, apparently. But Charlie was the guy. So by de facto, that's why I'm so all in on Erica. And I get it. People are critical of her. She wears too much makeup. She wears too rings, blah, blah, blah. To me, it's pretty simple. She was his wife. She's a grieving widow. She's trying to continue Charlie's legacy and continue turning Point usa, and people want to attack her for it. And by my estimation, she has the wherewithal to deal with it. So the conservative movement is missing a synergist. Last point is this testament to the fact that we're only talking about people on YouTube. We're not talking about Anderson Cooper. We're not talking about Jake Tapper. We're not talking about Brett Baer or Sean Hannity. The legacy media is plummeting before our eyes. And the new leaders, the new voices are right here on YouTube. Obviously, we know what a massive voice and massive figure PBD is, but the new leaders are going to come from your YouTube account, not from your cable account. And that's so important. So it's important to remember what Charlie stood for.

[Vinny]

I will say something. I don't know if I'm there yet with Erica either. I don't know. I don't know anything. Prior to Charlie Kirk dying, I know nothing about Erica Kirk. I've just met her a few times. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. That's it. I've never had a conversation with her. She's always been sweet, but we've never had a conversation together. So I'm not overnight gonna say she's the qualified one to come and do it because you're the wife. It's not how this works, okay? This is a very competitive environment of somebody that needs to come in and the way to score who it is. A part of. This happened in our insurance company. And I remember in our insurance company, we had a guy that hated the new policies that came up with the company that exposed people that weren't working. And it drove everybody to perform month in, month out. And I had this one guy that behind closed doors every month, he was waiting for the numbers to work against us so he could come out and says, I told you guys, Pat's ideas are bad. I told you Pat's new comp plan is bad. I told he wanted to do. And I knew it because behind closed doors, he was already marketing It. And it was doing his thing. And I knew there was no way in the world I was going to let the company grow less than 50% every single year for many years, just so that person would lose credit. It wouldn't gain credibility on saying what they're saying. And obviously, eventually that person was irrelevant. We grew, we sold, and the rest is history. However, things like this happen in organizations, but let me tell you what's one thing they're not too careful of. Here's what you have to realize. This is very close to the hip hop war, east coast, west coast war that happened in the 90s. Do you know what happened at first when everybody was saying, you know, that's why your fat, you know, okay, west side, you know, he called out everybody. Okay, everybody. He called out in that one song, right? Everybody. He called literally everybody out and hit him up. What happened to Tupac? He got killed. But even after he got killed, what happened? Nothing. It wasn't that bad. It was just like, oh, man, I can't believe we lost Tupac. You know, when things got real, when Snoop and Diddy got up and said, hey, man, let's pump the brakes, you know what happened when the second person got killed?

[Adam]

Biggie done.

[Vinny]

Once the second person got killed, then everybody said, you know, I have to be careful as well. And then that's kind of like Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens or Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson coming up and sitting and saying, guys, we got to kind of get our act together. You imagine what happens if that takes place dose. And by the way, Ben Shapiro, respectfully, I said, I've offered to debate Tucker many times. He's turned it down.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

Just so you guys know, for the people that hate being Shapiro, and nobody in the marketplace would say, me and Ben are best friends. Do you know how many times me and Ben have texted each other? I want you to actually guess. How many times you think Ben and I have texted each other?

[Brandon]

3.

[Vinny]

3. What do you think the number is?

[Brandon]

Less than 10. Maybe 7.

[Vinny]

What did you say you guys text? Bingo. There is no relationship. There is no relationship. So nobody can come and say, wow, you know, you guys are probably this. I don't. I've never been to any of these. Like the party you went to the White House. Why would I go to that? It's a Jewish party. I'm not part of that sect. I don't. We don't do anything with that. We don't take any, you know, investors. We have nothing that we're taking right now. You have I can't believe you're selling shoes. You know why? We do create. We'll create our own businesses so we don't have to take money from anybody. I can't believe you're selling cats. All he cares about is selling cats. Which would you rather have? Us selling? Our own merch that we're doing or us taking money from Qatar and in other places?

[Pat]

Go ahead.

[Vinny]

Yeah, make up your mind. Which one do you want? So stop bitching and whining about some of the guys that are building a company. They're building businesses. I respect anybody that's building. Building is hard. Tearing down is easy. What is hard about tearing down? You know how easy it is to tear people down? Anybody can do it. We were sitting on the other day, Andrew Wilson was here. Interesting guy. Really like, how feisty he is. And I want to learn more about his story. And I'm like, oh, this guy had a tough life. And I finally learned about his story. He said something in the conversation about telling people, oh, Steven Crowder's name came up. And I told him, I said, you know, Steven Crowder, after the whole thing happened with the video of him and his wife, he called me one day, and for 45 minutes, he's explaining to me on what's going on. And I said. I said, stephen, I don't care. He says, what do you mean? I'm not going to talk about it. I'm not in the business of tearing down your personal life. It's not my business if our biggest enemy today went through it. I'm not in that business. Okay, so. But it's such an easy business model. So let me ask you a question. Which title will get you to watch this more? You know, where we come out and we expose everything about somebody's personal life, or we're going to talk about current events on what's going to give us. Or give us your opinion on what's going. What do you think you're going to watch more? And who's the audience? What do you think?

[Adam]

The drama queen?

[Vinny]

The tearing down or the building which you think is harder?

[Adam]

Tearing down?

[Vinny]

You know how hard it is to build a damn business. A guy sends me a message today on Manect. This is the third insurance company. I'm sorry, not even the third. The fifth insurance company has been a part of. And guess what he's telling me. Two of my guys are leaving. They're taking my guys away from me. They're going to go to this place. What do you think I should do? I Said, bro, how do you think it is to build a company with 60,000 agents nationwide? You need diplomacy. You need to build knowing 80% of people want to tear down what you build. And guess what? What the Republican party did in 2024 is known as the greatest comeback in politics.

[Adam]

Maybe ever.

[Vinny]

Maybe ever. And by the way, Republicans and conservatives, just so you know, if this guy doesn't win November 4th or 5th, whatever the day was, that would have been Obama's best day of his life. You know why? Because for the rest of his life, he would have said, america never wanted maga. They never wanted Trump. He was a one term that got lucky and lost twice to both Biden and to Commodore, whoever this person would have been. Instead, the president fought. And you know who else was behind it? A lot of people on the conservative side came together and you made it happen. And you're worried about tearing each other down. I'm so glad I'm not an insider. I'm so glad I'm on the outside. You know how many people text me message saying, how come you're not coming to Turning Point usa And Fisk? I said, well, Charlie and I were going to schedule, but nobody followed up with me. How come you're not a Turning Point usa? I'm not an insider. We're outsiders and we love it and we still have relationships. And by the way, we respect all these guys. This is not an easy business. It's not easy any of these guys respect. It's hard being Tucker. It's a hard business. It's hard being Ben. It's hard building a company. It's hard having families. Every one of these guys, at some point, they contributed positively. Candace did positively. Prager. Massive to many of us for many years, but people are not even talking about Prager. Prager was The G. The OG of OGs. Prager, Dennis Prager. I hope he's doing good. He and his wife. I hope they're doing good. Sue everybody. I hope they're doing good. All these guys played a role. Beck played a role. O'Reilly played a role. Everybody played a role. What the hell are you guys doing right now? Who the hell is the shot caller to say, call a damn meeting? Get your act together. You know how many times I have to have meetings like that? One time we had two guys in our company hated each other, but they both respected me. We were in Aspen, believe it or not. They'll remember this because they were not happy. I called breakfast. Didn't tell either one of them who I'm having breakfast with. They both show up to breakfast. I said, all right. You know why you're here, why you're not here because of me. You guys got to talk. Both were pissed. Talk. Nobody ever knew this meeting happened. And they talked to each other. Who is that? Shot caller? Call the damn shot. Call it. I'm not the shot caller. Call the flipping shot. What are you doing? You've had so much momentum. Good momentum. Called the damn shot. I don't know what the shot caller is. If I was the effing shot caller, the meeting would have been done a week after what happened to Charlie. And I'm gonna say, what the hell are we doing? Look what we built. Reminder. We build this together. All of you, every one of them on stage builder together. Every one of them played a positive role. All of them. Whether you hate Candace or Tucker or Ben or Megan, I don't care whether you love Candace, you love Tucker, you love Megan. These were the front runners of bringing the social media people together to win 2024, don't forget. And they did in 16. Maybe not Ben, because Ben has always not been Trump. He's been Desantis. He's been on the outset. That's probably one of the reasons why some of the camping us don't get along, because I wasn't DeSantis for 2020, 2024. I wasn't. I'm like, no, I don't. I don't think you're the guy. I support you, but not as a president. You should have gone. Met with a shot caller.

[Adam]

That's the guy called the damn shot.

[Vinny]

Have the meeting already. I think there's only two people that can call that meeting to make it happen. And by the way, doesn't need to be on camera. Turn the damn camera off. I get people that call me sometimes and they tell me, you won't believe what happened. And I say, what do you want me to do with this information? I'm definitely not going to talk about on the podcast. If you calling me because you want me to say this to the world, I'm not the guy you call the wrong guy. This is the wrong guy that's trying to get clicks for this. Call somebody else. I'm not that guy. When we do this, you know what our research is? We read this, we give our comment because we trust the way we process issues, not because we have insiders calling us about everything that's going on. No. How do you process issues? You know the show, the first take. What's your take? This is my take. We have a fox comes up, say, sit down with us. I say, we know. What do we like about your show? What's that? It seems like you're processing the issues while you're doing a podcast and you guys are just kind of doing Chad GPT information. And then in that moment, you kind of show what you're thinking. That's what makes it authentic that I'm not being fed by somebody saying this, say this, say that. No, I'm not that guy. Call somebody else and tell them what to say. But come on, shot caller. I don't put this on anybody but the shot caller right now. And Erica's not a shot caller. She's not. You don't just become a shot caller because you married a shot caller. Kirk is gone. Who's the current shot caller if it's not him? Is it above pay grade? Call the damn meeting. Call the meeting. Holy shit. Is this what Turning Point Us is going to be? Is it going to be like, what is that award that Diddy and Snoop got up? You want to lose? If you want. If you were part of a crew, that executive producer needs to be in your video. Come to Death row. Yeah, I don't need to be an all up in the video. What was that?

[Adam]

Source Awards? Yeah.

[Vinny]

Is Turning Point USA not a Source Award? Is that what it is?

[Adam]

Pretty much.

[Vinny]

No.

[Pat]

Come to Daily Wire, by the way.

[Vinny]

Let me see the other side. I don't mind the debate, actually. Don't mind the debate. I don't mind the Israel, not Israel debate. That's fine. I don't mind that debate. That's healthy. Like when they're like, there's a reason why the younger audience is questioning Israel. Maybe listen to the younger audience, see what they're saying. Listen to them. Stop thinking they're young and dumb. Let's see what they got to say. Maybe there's an argument there. Maybe they. Maybe the fact that two hundred and sixty journalists disappeared, maybe we need to talk about that. Maybe the fact that Israel doesn't allow journalists to go out and report what's going on, we need to talk about that. That's okay. That's a topic we're debating. It's a topic we're debating. But this tearing down bullshit stuff's got to stop, guys. You know, I'm not doing this because I'm trying to make money off of this. I'm genuinely doing this because I love America and I got four kids and I want to make sure these guys in 20, 30 years, when they want to run. We don't get so flipping distracted and divided that AOC and A. Newsom. That's right on one of the polls is showing ahead of JD Vance. AOC and Newsom go on a ticket together and all of a sudden we have president. What do you think happens to America with everything you build? You don't think one by one by one, the executive order, tear all of it down. Oh, would you like to see a JD Be a two term guy?

[Brandon]

Next.

[Vinny]

Or a Desantis or a Rubio? I like Rubio as well. What do you want to see? Shot caller. Call the shot. You know who you are. Oh, my God. I really didn't want to say this right before Christmas. Call the effing shot. Call the meeting. You know who you are. I hope this makes it to him. Sit everybody down, hash it out and get it solved. Because this next phase, it's no longer. Like you said, it's not about FOX and Newsmax and OAN, is it? Oh, it's not. It's.

[Adam]

It's.

[Vinny]

It's YouTube, Twitter, X, these guys.

[Adam]

Exactly.

[Vinny]

Let's have the meeting. I don't want to be a part of it. I'm not an insider. Have the damn meeting. If you want me to contribute in any way as a moderator, just to be a processor, I will contribute. I'm not saying I'm not willing to contribute. My, my number one priority is the greatest country in the world. That's what I care about. Period. And let's start scoring people on golf score. When I'm recognizing somebody on talent, what do we score them on? Humor, trust, telling the truth, asking good questions. But being builders, not tearing down, by the way, if you're not too careful. Like, I remember one time, I know what happened to me. I went through a six month period where I was like, I like the negative vibes. Like seven, eight years ago, nine years ago. I'm like, what the. This is not you. What are you doing? You're not this guy. You're not. You're not. You're not a guy like this. Snap out of it. And I'm like, I'm studying myself. What are you doing? You ain't been like this since you were freaking a little kid when your parents got a divorce. This is not your profile. You. You lift people up. You're a builder. And I had to like, almost get rid of this. What do you call it, this, you know, Persona. Not, not even Persona. The energy is like, dude. What? This is not the language you speak. Negative energy. No, no, no. I'm like, out, get out. Don't even come near me. I don't even want you near me. The negative energy. So it happens to us at times. It happens to people you admire sometimes. But whatever the hell is going on right now with this weekend. I don't know, man. I have so much respect for Charlie. To me, that. That guy, to me is a. Is a. I have a lot of respect for that guy and what he builds. I hope it doesn't turn into the Source Awards. I hope it doesn't. I hope it turns into debate. Like when he brought Dave Smith, he debated. Who did Dave Smith debate last time? I think that's great.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

Then that kind of stuff, great. But if it gets into this kind of stuff and, and you know, you know who. Ben, again, I said this the other day. I don't know. I'm going to get to the next story. I don't want to stay on this story for too long, but I want to get to the next story. Oh, man, Ben, I. Forget it. I'm not even going to get into that. But it's, it's. It's. They. They got. They got a rise above right now. And. And there is the business model of what pays. There is. If I say, like MGK did a song on Eminem, the devil, and then he puts this logo. Whatever you ever heard that song was like, blew up. And it kind of put him on the map. And then Eminem responded and then boom, boom, boom, boom. Because he said something about his. Is that the one? That's the one. Zoom in. How many views it got? Don't play it.

[Pat]

Just Zoom in on 395.

[Vinny]

395 million. That's MGK getting the rap devil, right? He's calling out Eminem and it was like, damn, this guy's got the brass to do that. But that's hip hop. That's hip hop. That's okay.

[Adam]

In hip hop.

[Vinny]

It's art. It's tearing down. It's not building up. It's tearing down. So anyways, to me, I hope the shot caller calls the shots and we move on. And I think there's only two people that can call the shot. Nobody else. That's all I think. Go ahead.

[Adam]

I fully endorse everything you just said. I don't know if you feel comfortable saying who those two people are. Okay, cool. I respect that. But again, we're feeling the reverberations of the synergist, of the leader of the movement not being here. And this is the course that the movement has to go through to rectify with who's the next guy up? And it may be you, pbd. Even though you don't want to be it, because I don't see any of these people stepping up. Tucker ain't the guy. Candace ain't the gal. Ben ain't the guy. Megyn Kelly, massive respect. She ain't it. Who is it, Trump? In my opinion, it's not even J.D. vance. But someone needs to step up.

[Vinny]

But let me tell you again, I gave my thoughts because you can't. You know, you interview Michael. Michael, do you think you're the greatest player of all time? What does LeBron say after what I did that day? When we came back 73. 9, I told myself, you're the greatest. You're the goat. Shut. The greatest flopper of all time. You're the goat. You ever seen the way Michael was getting fouled? You get tapped in the air, you're rolling 50 different times into the audience eating popcorn. I became the goat that day. Furthest from the goat is who you are. Michael's the goat. They asked Michael, who do you think? He says, I think that's an unfair question to ask. Why? I never played against Wilt. I never played against Russell. I never prayed against Kareem. Kareem. I never played against these guys at their peak. No, you have to respect who came before you, because what I say. Hey, we'd like to retire your number that nobody can ever wear it again. Number 23. I don't think that's right. Because NBA is bigger than one player. Wow. Are you freaking kidding me? This is the greatest player of all time saying he doesn't want his jersey to be retired. And LeBron was 23. And Kobe wears 24 to say I'm one better than Michael. 24. That's how it works. So we got to respect everybody that's done what they've done previous to whatever the hell is going on today. I respect every one of these guys, even though I may disagree on some of the topics. But I'd like the shot caller to make the call. So anyways, we'll see what happened next few months. Let's go to the next story. Did you guys see this video with this Nickelodeon kid star Tyler Chase, seeing living on Riverside streets in a heartbeat. Did you see this video? Have you seen it? Can you just play this video, Humberto? If you. If you have it, it's. It's a video of this guy.

[Pat]

Oh, man.

[Vinny]

You know, what's his Name. Zoom. This kid was a child star. Nickelodeon. Many, many years ago.

[Adam]

Tyler Chase.

[Vinny]

Watch this year. Watch this here. Your name is Tyler.

[Adam]

Did you play on Disney Channel?

[Pat]

Nickelodeon. Oh, it.

[Adam]

Disney. Nickelodeon.

[Brandon]

What show was it again?

[Vinny]

N. Classic High School.

[Adam]

Oh, yeah. You were that kid on it, huh?

[Vinny]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember you.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

Ah, dude, let me tell you, man, when you see something like that and this video in this street is going viral, you see it everywhere by the way you look. I saw it on valleytainment. At first I'm like, wait a minute, what is this? Why are we posting this? Then I went on, I'm like, what a heartbreaking video to see something like this happen. We all. Vinny, you know this. We all have a friend that this happened to. One of my favorite people in the world this happened to. And the guy's no longer with me. Right? You sit back now. You think about some of your favorite people. What happened to this kid? What did he do? He looks like he's on drugs. He looks like he's, you know, using anything and everything. When you look at that, look at the face right there.

[Adam]

Humberto. What did he look like when he was younger?

[Vinny]

They just showed it. Do you mind pulling it up? Rob Humberto, tap in. Tyler Chase. Young Tyler Chase. Yeah. Go to images. That's him.

[Brandon]

Jeez.

[Vinny]

That's the kid to the right.

[Adam]

And what show was he on?

[Brandon]

Ned's Declassified School Survival.

[Vinny]

Do you remember that show or not?

[Brandon]

I was like around the age of watching stuff like that when I was on. See, I vividly remember that.

[Vinny]

Do you remember him from the show?

[Brandon]

Yeah, yeah. Super normal and vibrant and everything. Some nasty stuff.

[Vinny]

How old is he, by the way? Can you tap in? How old are you?

[Brandon]

36.

[Vinny]

I think he's 36 now. So he's six years older than you?

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

So you remember watching this kid?

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

How do you react to seeing something like this yourself?

[Brandon]

It's crazy. It makes me think of all the child stars. Like, I can't think of too many scenarios where somebody who's a child star ends up being a good, healthy situation when they're older. So, yeah, I don't know if it's like a. Just a pattern or if they get abused or if it's too much to handle at that age. But, yeah, it seems like a, like, definitive pattern that doesn't put you in a good spot if you. If you're a child actor like that.

[Pat]

And if you. He makes a good point. And Nickelodeon itself, they had that documentary about the producer. I don't want to say his name. The guy really grossed me out. But look at Amanda Bines. Like any, any, by the way, Amanda Bynes. And this isn't Nickelodeon, but just think about Britney Spears. Who's the other one that, who's the singer, the skinny girl that's doing the wicked thing. And all these young people that are involved with Hollywood and I'm, and I, and I keep. I know I've said this story before. I know a guy, and Adam knows the guy too, that said the stuff that he saw. And mind you, I was there. I had my own experiences. Meaning I almost tried to kill a freaking agent that was trying to do something squirrely. And I was like, wow, my mom was right about what this place really is. And it's. They prey on these young people. They see that you have talent and they suck the. It's the innocence. I think I forgot who it was once that says that they get off on destroying the innocent of a child. And you see it, you see it like all these young souls and they just freaking lose their minds. And it's all Hollywood. It's that Hollywood. It's that Hollywood machine pad. They suck the soul out of these people dry. And Justin Bieber, I, I talked about somebody with this on the phone yesterday. Justin Bieber. Who I. I don't know is my opinion. Seems like he has something dark in there. And he was such a young. Playing the guitar in the streets of what, Canada? And was discovered by Usher. His mother lets him go and hang out at Diddy's house for weeks and weeks on end. And then you, like, as a parent, you're letting. I don't even care if you'd even know nothing about Diddy. He's a producer. You're going to pat. I already know the answer. You would drop Dylan off. Look at that fit. Yeah. At somebody's house, a grown man's house. Not a family member, not someone that's for weeks on end to sleep over.

[Vinny]

Are you.

[Pat]

And then you wonder why. And then you wonder why the guy is, is, is looking like he's going through stuff. I'm so happy that he came to Christ, but that place is disgusting. From the Harvey Weinsteins to all the stories that we freaking hear about that place and who knows what that kid went through. Who knows? But like we even talked about Rob Reiner's son. How are you in rehab at 14? And again, this is all Hollywood. Rob Reiner wasn't. His son wasn't in Hollywood. They lived in Hollywood. How does that Happen. How do we lose that person? I know, I get it, it's the drugs and stuff, but what pushes them to go there? Who the hell is. Who are you getting introduced to that's offering you heroin? Who's introducing you to crack cocaine? That doesn't happen just by, oh, I met some guy at a party. No, this is something sinister and it's something evil, Pat. And it's, I, you know, I wish the best for this.

[Adam]

Well, to me, it comes down to who your support system is, because we've seen this not just in Hollywood, in many different facets. You remember there was an NBA player, Delonte west, of course. Could you pull him up?

[Pat]

Still out there.

[Adam]

Delonte West. So listen, whether you're celebrities, you. You have access to everything. The hardest thing to do is say no when everything's given to you. When you're making millions and millions of dollars and you're getting millions and millions of fans and views and clicks and everyone wants to be your friend. The hardest thing to do is at midnight and say, guys, I gotta go home. I gotta go home. I live in South Beach. I've been in the scene for 25 years. I've seen every single party. I've seen people do every single drug. I've been around it all. But at some point, you have to have the internal wherewithal to say, guys, I can't go to the next, I gotta go home. And some people aren't strong enough to do that, and that sucks. And we've seen other people like Corey Feldman, we've seen Todd Bridges, Different Strokes. You know, you mentioned Amanda Bynes. I partied with Amanda Bynes 20 years ago. I said, this girl's an alcoholic. She's just shot, shot, shot. I was like, no, I'm good. But your support system, your family, is the most important thing. I don't know what's going on with Bieber, but I do know that at the very least, he has a support system around him.

[Vinny]

Yeah, he has.

[Brandon]

Got it.

[Vinny]

Look, parents, can you do me a favor? You've heard me say it so many times. Can you please go by Anxious Generation? I'm not the author of the book. It's Jonathan Haidt. Can you just buy the audible and listen to it? If you have a daughter or a son, can you go read the book Bringing Up Boys or Bringing Up Girls? If you got both, buy both. Can you do that? Can you do yourself a Christmas gift present and buy this flipping book? I've never met the guy. I don't know who the guy is. I've never met him. Can you do yourself a favor and go buy these books and listen to the audiobooks? Can you get others to do the same? If you like the book and it's life changing, share with others to read it as well. This book needs to be selling 10 million copies of why parents need to read this book and James Dobson. Can you go to the other one? Bringing up boys. Go type in Bringing up boys or Bringing up Girls by James Dobson. We have to be involved nowadays. I'm going to get to this next story here. Vinny, I want to get your thoughts so Paul comes out. Can you. Yeah, right there. Bringing up boys. That one right there. James Dobson, boys and girls. Just go read the books if you got them. Do yourself a favor. We need to be more involved with everything that's going on today. Next story. I want to get into kind of ties with the 64% of Americans support banning teenagers from social media. This is a new poll that just came out. A Fox News poll reveals that about 2/3 of Americans and parents backed the idea of banning teenagers under age of 16 from social media and removing cell phone from K12K through 12 classroom. A new poll shed light on the growing concern among American voters and parents regarding the impact of social media and cell phone usage on children. The survey, which involved interviewing 1,001 registered voters, found that 64% of participants favored banning social media for children under the age of 16, while 35% opposed the measure. Interestingly, the number remains consistent amongst parents. 64% supporting the ban, 36% opposing it. The poll results are highlighted a partisan divide on the issue with 73% of Republicans backing the social media ban compared to 56% of Democrats banning it. So Democrats want it to be open. Republicans wanted to be banned. This suggests that while there is broad support for protecting children from potential dangers of social media, Republicans are more likely to advocate for stricter regulations in addition to the social media ban. The survey asks participants about their views on banning cell phones in K through 12. A staggering 69% support the idea while 31% don't. Why the hell would you want cell phones in a classroom anyways? Brandon, your thoughts on this?

[Brandon]

Yeah, I can't think of a single upside to somebody who's under the age of 16 having access to social media. It's only like what, maybe a 10 year sample size of how old were.

[Vinny]

You when you got a cell phone.

[Brandon]

Junior in high school. So it was like 2011 and it was those. It wasn't the cool Cell ph. I mean, because iPhones were still expensive.

[Pat]

The razor.

[Brandon]

Yeah. So it was like those flip phones, like the, the first one, I was like that walkie talkie next door. Yeah, they're pretty cool. But so that's an entirely different world though than what we have right now because you couldn't even really search online with those phones. Like I, I do think it's a good thing for kids of any age to have like a basic phone that can make phone calls if they have to get in touch with their parents or something. But no, I don't think there's a single positive argument you can make for them having access to social media under that. And we have what like a 10 year sample size of this experiment of giving kids access to that for the like last 10 years. So. Yeah, no, I think something good to get ahead of because we're seeing the results of it now.

[Pat]

Yeah. And I think by the way, what was, what was the percentage? Humberto? It was 64. Guess, guess, guess what, the other, the other 36% doesn't want it. You know why? Because that's a digital pair of pacifier to the kids. Nothing drives me crazy more than when people are out and literally the kid is on. I forgot where we were eating in Vegas. This kid had a stand set up, iPad, headphone, eating like a robot. The mom was just jamming nuggets in this kid's freaking mouth. And all the other parents, the father was on espn. I walked around, I had to, I.

[Vinny]

Was that nosy sushi spot in Vegas.

[Pat]

Sushi spot in Vegas. And I'm sitting there, I'm like, oh my God. And I have to get credit where credit's due once in a while. Okay. Brooklyn will grab my phone and try to buy something on Amazon or Tico. Tico loves to see what's happening in the world. He'll look at like a news thing and then, and then give it right back to me. I'm telling you right now, the difference between kids that are sucked into the phone, which by the way, they're getting brainwashed, China, tick tock, whatever ads they're getting sold stuff. And then parents wonder why the kid wants certain things because they're watching it on the phone. I've seen it, I've seen it live. Dylan, Tico, Senna. They'll sit there and they're like, what are we going to talk about? It's engaging, it's conversation. Yeah. Once in a while something happens. Let me see what happened? Oh my God, this happened on my phone. Like when, when Trump, President Trump was shot in the ear. Everybody, quick, we have to see the news. You have to be engaged, but giving it to them because you don't want to parent and you don't want to or play with them or do something like that. And I get it, it's hard, I get it. I'm not there yet. But it's not. Give me, like you said, a 10 year sample size. How's it helping? How's it benefiting? Are you listening to them? Are you learning from them? And then we wonder why, how they get on drugs, how they leave, how they go because they're seeing people partying, smoking weed, doing cocaine and then they go do it. Then they wonder why the kids are, are falling off the cliff.

[Vinny]

Adam?

[Adam]

Yeah, the cell phone is the most dangerous drug known to man at this point, especially for teenagers. My nephew Rory, you know, he just turned 13. He, he kind of tried to be slick this weekend. He goes, we going to hang out over Christmas? I go, yeah, yeah. He goes, can we go shopping? I go, yeah, whatever you want to get. He goes, can I get a cell phone? I said, not so fast, tough guy. I said, we're gonna have to talk to mom and dad about that. No, no, no, come on, Uncle Adam, you're the cool uncle. Nah, I ain't that cool. Why not? I go, because there's something called dopamine and when you go on social media, it's going to attract the dopamine and you're gonna all of a sudden seek validation from others. You're gonna be sexualized with all the sexual content out there. Because I'd rather you skills than social media skills. I want you to work on your self esteem. And the most important thing is I want you to be a good kid and not worry about what the validation of social media does to you. I said, no sir, we're not going to get a cell phone. Well, we can go get some candy, we can have a good time. But this is the reality is that social media has in essence ruined Gen Z. They never had a chance. You're 12 years old, you're 10 years old, you're 15 years old, you're parents give you a cell phone. The most powerful thing that we've ever had in our life and they had no idea. That's why I love the fact that the silver lining is here. Talked about anxious generation. Kids 15 and under heed the warning. Parents have at least heed the warning. Yeah, maybe we shouldn't give the most powerful thing ever known to man to their kid. So take your time, play it safe. Your kids don't know how to be on social media. Not.

[Vinny]

Not worth it, guys. Not worth it. And by the way, right now, Humberto just sent me something. The average age kid in America that gets a phone is 11.6 years old.

[Adam]

Way too young.

[Vinny]

11.6 years old.

[Adam]

Way Too Young.

[Vinny]

Yeah, average age. 11.6 years old is what the number is. And that's where we're at right now in America with the age of sir.

[Adam]

Do you see any of Tico or Dylan or any of their friends being sort of addicted to their phone and social media? Do you see it?

[Vinny]

Not all of them, no. Like, we have, like, kids that we're very close to. No, but if you come to our. Like, I had a kid the other day, came over to the house. Oh, my God, he came in. Just the way he handled me. And I'm like, yeah, I don't like this kid at all. I said, I'm gonna go outside. And I just went outside and I literally sat there by the be by the pool. You know, when I have those. What do you call it? The sits. The things you lay down on the beach bed. Pool, pool, bed, whatever. And I just sat there. You know what I did? I just looked at him like this. And he kept doing all the dumb, silly stuff right in front of me. So then I already know I don't like the skitties. So I said, okay, you guys good? Eat your food. Anything else? Meaning you guys don't get out of here. Okay? So they left. Then I took my kids and one of the other kids that was with me, and I said, so what did you guys think about that kid? One of the kids says, oh, he was cool. I said, really? The other two are like, no, that kid was weird. Not a good kid. He did this, he did that, he did this. I said, yeah, that guy's not welcome in our house ever again. I don't want to see not even.

[Adam]

Welcome in the house ever again.

[Pat]

Cut off.

[Vinny]

No first meeting. I don't like that behavior.

[Adam]

What type of behavior was he?

[Vinny]

If you lack the most basic. Look, I came from a broken family, but I gave you respect. If you were my kid's parents, my friend's parents, I gave you respect. If that basic principle of respect wasn't taught to you by your parents, I'm not having it. I'm not having it. The number one thing when a kid goes to another person's house is the utmost respect. Would you like me to take my shoes off. Can I help put this plate back? Can I do this? Can I do that? You don't just go walk upstairs running around like you own the place, especially the first time. 00 so parents have to be a little bit involved. And by the way, I had something going on when I did that but whatever I had going on, I had to go sit down and make sure my kids are, you know, hearing from me on how processing issues. Anyways, we need to be more involved. Let me get to the next story here. Fulton county voting under scrutiny after signature comments Vinny, I'm coming to you with this one. So Fulton county in Georgia is under scrutiny after it emerged at some early votes from 2020 election were not signed by workers riding on X various commentators alleged voter fraud. The allegations came after on December 9 hearing before the Georgia State Election Board and Brumboff attorney for Fulton County Board of Registration Elections said that some of the ballots were counted lacked required poll worker signature during the 2020 election. Vote tabulation tapes are signed to verify the accuracy of voters of votes before they are transported to a central office and used for auditing the ballot because there is no evidence that the ballots were not legitimate because they weren't signed. And some commentators noted that this was procedural lapse. A recounted hand audit of ballots in Georgia at the time confirmed Joe Biden won the debate in the hearing, the lawyer said did not dispute that the tapes were not signed. It is. It was a violation of the rule. She said. President Trump and his allies have consistently claimed without evidence that the 2020 election was stolen from President Joe Biden did not win in Georgia and other states. Trump claimed that the ballots were duplicated and that there were other voter fraud issues in the county. Vinnie, what have you learned about. This is a Newsweek story I just read.

[Pat]

Yeah, I put it in to Rob's slack. It's a. You'll see the girl in court and she's. She's admitting to it. Look, look at the slack that I slack, Rob. But I want everybody to remember, not only did Trump was Trump saying it when we were all saying it when you were watching voting. Yes.

[Vinny]

Thanks.

[Pat]

Hold on one second. When we were talking about cheating in Georgia and this mother. This is Fannie Willis, this whole, this whole situation, okay. And let's not forget Joe Biden won Georgia by 11,779 votes. Okay. Now five years later, they're admitting 315,000 votes were illegally counted. Okay? That's.

[Vinny]

That's 315,000.

[Pat]

Patrick, do you know what that means the 2020 election was rigged. And I love how people on the left try to point out, well, it didn't change the outcome of the election. What, Wait a minute. If it was happening there, what about all the other polling stations where they were like covering the windows and we were like yelling at the top of our lungs, what the hell kind of the poll. You have to have somebody from the other party watching the poll workers and what they're doing. And there's videos. I don't, I'm not gonna play every video, but there's videos of it where they have the ballots, she brings them, she counts them a second time.

[Vinny]

Okay?

[Pat]

And this is why, going back really, really quick to the first point about all the bickering and all the fighting, how is this not the number one story? How, how is everybody not flipping out besides Epstein, which we're going to get to, they cheated in Georgia, Okay? And then Rudy Giuliani, what is he gonna do? Because if you guys think about it, he, Rudy was charged 13 felony counts, fined $148 million because he contested this election. Okay? Fulton County's admission, so what? He better get reinstated. He better get all that money back because it's everything from January 6th to Russia. Every single thing that these freaking demons have said that we were crazy about, it's all coming true. OK, so think about this. They're actually missing 380,761 ballots. Fulton failed to verify signatures for 140 to 8,000 ballots. Ruby Freeman and Shay Moss, double scanned ballots. They violated state law. And the. Fanny Willis and Umberto. Who is this?

[Adam]

Who is this?

[Pat]

This is, I think this is in Fulton County. Who is she? She's admitting towards the end that they screwed up. But look at what she's trying to Democrat 1,000%. Yeah, go ahead.

[Adam]

I am. I have not seen the, the tapes.

[Brandon]

Myself, but I do not dispute that.

[Adam]

The tapes were not signed.

[Brandon]

It was a violation of the rule.

[Pat]

Violation.

[Adam]

We, since 2020 again, we have new.

[Brandon]

Leadership and a new building and a.

[Adam]

New board and new standard operating procedures.

[Brandon]

And okay, since then, the training has been enhanced.

[Vinny]

The poll walker poll watchers are trained.

[Brandon]

Specifically, they've got to sign the tapes.

[Adam]

In the morning and they've got to.

[Vinny]

Sign the tapes when they're run.

[Pat]

At the end of the day, they cheated.

[Brandon]

When the tapes come back to the.

[Vinny]

Hub for, you know, with all the.

[Brandon]

Documentation, they are checked again. And if somebody forgot to sign a tape, then Fulton initiates an investigation.

[Vinny]

But we don't have a, we don't dispute the allegation.

[Pat]

So you guys hear all that fluff? All that fluff. We don't dispute the allegation. Meaning we were wrong. We violated, we cheated. Okay? But you know what she's saying? We're in a new building now. We're. We're watching the poll watchers. We're watching. Shame on them. And the fact that this isn't the number one story, because where we are today, with all the problems, with all the inflation, with the freaking border with dealing with ICE and all this crap, it's because we were cheated out of the president in 2020. End of story. Okay? Thank God he's back and he's trying to fix it. And I'm sorry that I'm freaking yelling, but it's like, these are the stories that should be the top of the cream of the crop. You guys cheated. And they're gonna try it again, okay? They have to try again. I don't know if it's going to be this, because we're on it now, but I'm telling you guys, the. The enemy. We cannot let these people win again. That's my point.

[Brandon]

Period. Check this out. How many votes off the top of your heads would you think that Georgia was decided by that year?

[Pat]

How many votes off the top of your head? 11,000.

[Brandon]

Oh, you saw it already.

[Pat]

Okay, I said earlier, the whole thing, we're.

[Adam]

Trump said, find me 11,000.

[Brandon]

And Adam, there's 300,000. You're saying three.

[Pat]

This is three. They wanted to win by a landslide. And there's clips of him. Donald Trump was on camera. I think I put it in the. In the slack as well. He's saying they cheated. They were dropping off ballots. They were doing it. And every new network, every one of them. He's lying. He's lying. He's denouncing this. And then January 6th and now all weird. No wonder why January 6th, he was saying, you guys cheated. We have to be there. Okay, and what's this? Oh, no, that's a different one. Bert. No, it's a different one. It's all good.

[Vinny]

Adam.

[Pat]

That one right there. Oh, that one right there. Listen to this. Sorry, Pat. This is.

[Vinny]

This one.

[Pat]

You heard this?

[Brandon]

Where they dumped ballots. You will find that you have many that aren't even signed.

[Pat]

Weird.

[Brandon]

And you have many that are forgeries.

[Vinny]

Okay?

[Brandon]

You know that.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

You know that.

[Brandon]

You have no doubt about that. And you will find you will be at 11,000. 7:79 within minutes because Fulton county is totally corrupt, and so is she.

[Vinny]

Totally corrupt.

[Brandon]

And they're going around playing you and.

[Pat]

Laughing at you behind your back. Brad, you know it or not, this guy, this Brad. What's his last name? Raffisperger. He actually called. He was on MSNBC or one of these major news, and he basically called it. He called it. He goes, oh, he goes, there's a 2% that haven't voted yet. And he goes, trump is going to win. He's like, unless something crazy. And Chuck Todd and them were. He knows they were cheating. So guess what? Once again, we were right.

[Vinny]

You were wrong.

[Pat]

You know that saying? I hate to say I told you so. I don't. We told you so, period.

[Adam]

Adam, Vinnie, I appreciate your passion. I'm with you mostly. But the math is not mathing. Because even if Trump won Georgia in 2020, even if he would have won, he still would have lost the election.

[Pat]

I said that.

[Adam]

Okay. Which leads to the bigger question. Are you saying that the entire. Every single swing state, every single part of the election was rigged?

[Pat]

No. But what.

[Adam]

Because if so, you would probably be wrong based on every single court case. So I'm with you.

[Pat]

Well, the court case is that. I'm sorry, guy.

[Adam]

Hear me out, guy. I'm with you. That there was definitely some irregularities. The Hunter Biden laptop certainly was an issue. But Trump won. In 2016, the Electoral College votes was 304 to 227. Whooped Hillary's ass. The next election, four years later, it was pretty much the exact same thing, but In Biden's favor, 306 to 232. So even if 306, how many Electoral College votes does Georgia have? 16. So 306 minus 16. He's at 290. You need 270 to win. Biden would have won by 20 Electoral College votes. Flip it. Trump ran away with all seven swing states in 2024. He won 312 to 226. So, yes, we can go relitigate the past and figure out what happened in Georgia.

[Brandon]

Cool.

[Adam]

Have fun with that. I respect that. But that's not going to change the election. It's not going to change who the president was. Trump's the president now. Let's embrace what he's doing now and not try to go relitigate. What happens?

[Vinny]

There's a big difference.

[Adam]

20, 20.

[Vinny]

Here's a big difference.

[Adam]

Sure.

[Vinny]

Here's a big, big difference. And I get what you're saying. Okay. But guess what? The enemy wants to say exactly what you just said.

[Pat]

Bingo.

[Vinny]

The enemy wants to say, let's just move on and focus on this. My biggest challenge right now is is if they can take these three more years that they have. Not really three more years. They got 12 months because midterm is not going to be good. They got 11 months to get everything else they want to get done after midterms are going to get their asses handed to them if they continue going the way they're going right now on everything. Kalshee poly doesn't matter. It's Democrats winning the midterms if they can find a way. And I don't know how they're going to do this. Everyone's got to get ID when they're voting, every state if they can. And they're working on some of these things for the voting corrections that they're trying to make, the adjustments that they're trying to make. You may say, well, this only happened in Fulton County. He would have lost anyways. It's too early, buddy. You have no idea what could come the next three, four years. The other day the pipe bomber took how many years for us to find out? The pipe bomber? Five years. Oh, just relax until it comes to you. But then what? Then what? We have a new building and new management and new protocols and this will never happen again. Oh, really? Oh, really? Okay. You think Trump's the last person you guys are going to call a fascist?

[Pat]

No.

[Vinny]

Guess what? You wait till you see how much of a fascist JD Vance is going to be in 2028 and Rubio is going to be in 2028. And you know what I mean when I'm saying he's going to be in 2028, I don't mean they're fascist. That's what they're going to be targeted as in 2028. So if you don't address these things now, you don't think it's going to happen again. The future of any. I'll give you the final thoughts.

[Pat]

Yeah, I just. And the only time I'm going to disagree, Adam, because it's like if they cheated in Georgia. I know like I said in the beginning, it didn't. That one state didn't change everything. If they did it there, how do you know that they didn't do it everywhere else? Georgia wasn't the only place that was literally taping up windows so we couldn't see what these people were doing. Government officials that are that are getting paid from my tax dollar. Ok, Adam. And by the way, if you tainted in one, the whole thing's tainted. Houston Astros against Yankees, cheating, banging on shit in the dugout, Altuve running and saying, don't rip it. He had the freaking wire. And then they win the World Series. The whole season's tainted. You didn't just get caught in one game, you got caught for the whole season. So that's where the trust factor comes in. And Adam, we can't have this. Nah, Next one. It's like, okay, Covid, now let's move on. Meanwhile, kids are dying, Myocarditis is up. Sudden deaths are happening. Turbo cancer is up. We're like, guys, it's just, come on. Bill Gates is cool. He came in at dinner with Trump. No, to hell with that Hunter Biden laptop. No, it was just certain guys in the FBI. No, no, no. And it all goes back to Epstein, to everybody. If we don't hold them accountable, it's going to happen again. And I want all. Fannie Willis. Did you see her attitude in court?

[Adam]

She's like.

[Pat]

Because she knows she's untouchable. The freaking attitude and the brash attitude. Oh, who y' all talk attitude? Like, calm your nerves. You got caught. You got caught. And if we don't stop him, we don't say, no, no, no, no. Time out. You guys cheated. End of story. Hillary Clinton, when they did Russia collusion, what happened? You guys know what happened with Hillary and the dnc? They got caught with the, with doing the, the fake dossier. $5,000 fine, 100 fine, forget it and move on. No, I'm not a fan of that.

[Adam]

I'll just. Final, final thought. Thank God Trump won in 2024. Yes, thank God that there's a lot of moderates like myself who woke up and realized, holy crap, we've been lied to about Trump. We should re litigate what happened in 2020. But I will bring to your attention, they did try to litigate this. It's called 62 different lawsuits that Trump presented to the courts, and he lost every single one other than some procedural technicality in Pennsylvania. So this has been litigated. So I'm not moving on. I'm not saying that we shouldn't do that. If anything, we need to investigate what the hell happened to Covid it. I know that's the most important thing.

[Pat]

To me, but if they litigate it.

[Adam]

If they litigate it, we have Trump now. And I'm not saying that we shouldn't go back to 2020. Let's focus on the present and the future. Yeah, the future looks bright. Let's make America great again. Trump's not going to go back and they're going to rename him president for the 2020 election. It's not happening.

[Brandon]

It's not about really getting the. We just don't want to have happening in the future, though.

[Vinny]

I agree.

[Brandon]

So you can't protect the future without re legging the past, and that's why.

[Adam]

They'Re going through this. Yeah, but let's not forget that they lost 61 of 62 lawsuits. Are we just gonna forget the 20.

[Pat]

Million extra votes they lost? Because, okay, let's just say some of the judges are appointed by Democrats, but the end of the day, they litigated Georgia and he lost. This is now proof that he was right.

[Adam]

If you want to go there. The governor of Georgia, Brian Kemp, I believe was his name, was a Republican. This guy Katzenberger was a Republican. So don't give me this liberal judge.

[Pat]

I've never heard of. Oh, I've never heard of Republicans that are anti Trump. Never heard of that before.

[Adam]

The guy endorsed Trump guy.

[Brandon]

Yeah, he doesn't want to go out on a limb like that.

[Adam]

You don't trust anybody. What's the point of even talking, Adam? Because you have zero trust for anybody.

[Pat]

You don't trust, man.

[Adam]

So what if I don't trust anything that you say?

[Pat]

God.

[Adam]

So that to me is a slippery slope.

[Pat]

You have to have a little bit.

[Adam]

Of trust in certain things. Not 100, but at least a little bit. I don't fully trust the system, but that's the best thing we got.

[Vinny]

I got you. I trust we're not going to solve this by the end of the show. So let's move on to trying to see if we can fix the Epstein issue.

[Adam]

Okay? Speaking of trust, it's been a rough.

[Vinny]

Rough weekend for Bill Clinton. So Bill Clinton chief of staff rages after half naked photos released in Epstein. Drop humberto. If you don't mind sharing those pictures with the rest of us. Let me see here. Boom, boom, boom. Bill Clinton. It also is page three. I don't think they're all page three, but let me try to find it. Where are they? Bill Clinton, page eight. Okay, so let's take a look at this. Let's take a look at this. So Bill Clinton, deputy chief of staff, lashed out at the White House after the Department of Justice released photos showing the former president shirtless in a hot tub. Hot tub. And socializing with Jeffrey Epstein. Angela Urena accused the Trump administration of using Clinton as a distraction. And a statement posted to X White House hasn't been hiding these files for months, only to dump them late on Friday to protect Bill Clinton, Urena wrote. Urania wrote this is about shielding themselves from what comes next or from what they'll try and hide forever. Urania said Clinton belongs to a group of people who cut ties with Epstein before his crimes became public. He contrasted them with those who maintained relationship with the convicted sex offender afterward. We're in the first. No amount of stolen by people in the second group will change that, he wrote. Everyone, especially maga, expects answers, not scapegoats. The DOJ released thousands of documents and hundreds of photos Friday, as required by the Epstein Files Transparency act, and President Trump signed the legislation on November 19. These are some of the pictures. So what is that picture right there? Is that him in a bathtub? Him and a hot tub, unfortunately.

[Pat]

And there's a girl, we're assuming, that's in that little black square that's tiny enough to fit there because you can't see the rest of her. That's unbothered. These guys with their silk, disgusting shirts.

[Brandon]

Geez.

[Pat]

You know, and I, by the way, and I've seen that, that photo on the bottom right, the unredacted photo, allegedly, it was a girl that was one of the girls that would recruit and, and bring sex traffic, these girls in. I forgot. I forgot what her name was.

[Vinny]

So, Vinny, what do we learn with the, with everything that came out with Epstein?

[Pat]

Well, the one thing that drove me nuts is beside not one Democrat, you notice that not one Democrat came out and denounced what Bill Clinton. Like, that is insane.

[Brandon]

I.

[Pat]

Look, I sent him a link. There's like 4,000 some photos.

[Vinny]

What are these photos, by the way?

[Pat]

These are just. They just go into the house. They. Because, you know, when they came in, they investigated, they took photos of every single thing in the house. And the photos that we're seeing are photos that they grabbed.

[Vinny]

This is which house?

[Pat]

This is an Epstein's house.

[Vinny]

Palm beach house? Or is this. This the.

[Pat]

I think this is the island. I think this is the island, if I'm not mistaken.

[Adam]

They're mixed.

[Pat]

They're mixed. Little bit of both.

[Vinny]

Okay.

[Pat]

Some there. And I'm, I'm going to be honest with you. There's some that I saw that are like the. They blacked out the face of the girl. Jeffrey Epstein is with girls that are eight years old.

[Vinny]

Stop.

[Pat]

I'm not. There's no. The size of the human being in his arm was a child. Multiple. Okay, I didn't see.

[Adam]

Please use the word allegedly.

[Pat]

No, no, no, Adam, trust me. I'm going to show it to you. When we're done, I don't even want to show them. It's just a little girl with him on airplane. They blacked out her face, but she. It's the body of a child.

[Adam]

It's not a.

[Pat]

It's a child. Okay. Let's not pretend that it's not. That's what.

[Vinny]

He could have been somebody's kid.

[Adam]

Yeah, exactly.

[Pat]

I mean, okay, multiple different size children in his arms. There was three of them that I saw.

[Vinny]

Okay.

[Pat]

That. Okay, it could have been. Guess what? If you're letting your child hang out with Jeffrey.

[Vinny]

Pulling that picture with Michael Jackson, by the way, because I'm seeing that everywhere. Bottom right there. Second one to keep going. Right there. Yeah, zoom in. So it's a picture of Michael.

[Pat]

Michael, Diana Ross back there.

[Vinny]

But they said those three were his kids because that picture is also public. Can you type in Bill Clinton, Michael Jackson and Diana Ross in Google images with kids. Type in Bill Clinton, Michael Jackson, Epstein and kids. And kids. Yeah, go to images. They're right there. Right there in the middle. Yeah, zoom in on that one.

[Pat]

Okay, so they blacked them out. Which they didn't even need to black them out.

[Vinny]

They didn't need to black him out. So that's his kids that are there with an alas and Bill Clinton. Yeah. God knows where. Go back, go back on the search you were in before. Right there. What's the top left one? Go to the top left one. What's it say up top? Michael Jackson by Jonathan, the singer. Michael Jackson with his children. With his children. Michael Joseph Jackson Jr. And Paris this. So it's important to look through all of them. But. Vinnie, please continue.

[Pat]

Yeah, no, and it's like, okay. And besides, like, just think about how serious and how I'm happy that it's. It's leaking out. But like, how much more do we need to see about Bill Clinton if. Let's really, really think about it. I know they're a president immunity untouchable. Besides all the sexual allegations. I remember when Trump during the debate where Hillary brought all them out. Juanita Broderick being one of them, which I have met. I met her at an event that we went to. Were we in New York? I met her and she had one of the craziest stories about what he did to her. And she always gets emotional, even when she's telling me about it again. And I posted something about the guy, Mark Middleton, remember the guy, the aide who signed Epstein on seven times.

[Vinny]

Can you send me that link? But go ahead, keep going. Seven times.

[Pat]

Remember Mark Middleton, guys? A Clinton White House aide signed Jeffrey Epstein. And sometimes he had girls with him to see Bill Clinton. This is the guy that in Arkansas was found hanged on a tree with an extension cord, shotgun blast to his chest. They ruled it a suicide, but guess what? They couldn't find the shotgun.

[Brandon]

Or blood.

[Vinny]

Or blood.

[Adam]

What does that have to do with Epstein?

[Pat]

He signed him on to the White House. So what I'm saying is a relationship, especially with Bill Clinton, when, something like that, when somebody knows too much. Adam, this is the, the, the Clinton body count that we always hear about. Imagine it. It obviously clearly wasn't a suicide, but think of the power that these people have where they get to the, the law enforcement, the authorities, and they go, hey, listen, by the way, it was a suicide, but we don't have a shotgun. Shut the hell up. There's no murder weapon. Oh, okay, there's. And by the way, have you ever tried the. How do you shotgun yourself to the chest? Anyway, what I'm saying is it's, this isn't going to go anywhere because Bill Clinton is freaking untouchable. I just wish I tweeted, I wish I was a fly on the wall this weekend in the Clinton house just to hear what Hillary has to deal with with this guy, but nothing. What's going to happen to Bill? What's going to happen? Nothing. It's like these. I, I feel bad for the victims. How long have they been saying these people, these people took advantage of us, they freaking raped us, they did this, they trafficked us. Can we have one arrest? We have one arrest. Who's the Microsoft guy? Bill Gates. How many photos of Bill Gates with blacked out face of a really young looking person with his wife, Melinda Gates saying one of the reasons she divorced Bill Gates was because of her relationship with that guy?

[Adam]

25 pictures.

[Vinny]

Huh?

[Adam]

25.

[Pat]

25 pictures of Bill.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

By the way, for people that are looking at this link that Humberto is using, if you want to get access to that link, the guy that builded credit to you, we're going to put it in the PBD Podcast Circle. PBD Podcast Circle. On Manecto Umberto, can you show the QR code of PBD Podcast Circle? I don't know if you have it or not. If you don't, if you just go to PBD Podcast Circle. I'm gonna put that link in there for you guys to go through. It's got names broken down so you don't have to waste a lot of Time doing it. Somebody already did that themselves. It'll be in the Peabody podcast circle. Phenomenal way this was broken down.

[Pat]

He took time, huh?

[Vinny]

The guy did it to save you thousands of hours. So the link is in Peabody podcast circle. Just go look at it, search through it. But Brandon, where you at with this?

[Brandon]

Yeah, I don't think that we're gonna get anything satisfying ever. Because, like, it's. It went to the highest level it could go to. Like, the DOJ was required by law to release everything by December 20th, and they didn't do it. They redacted like 10 of the stuff that was in there. And I was wondering, like, last night, like, once the DOJ defies a law, then, like, you know, what's the next level of accountability for that? Because the DOJ is the one that makes the laws and that holds people accountable. It's what the, the Attorney General is responsible for that. And then, you know, it's just the President above the Attorney General. So I guess the next layer above that's Congress. I. I saw Congress can technically sue the doj. So it's like, you know, I think it's kind of run its course. And it sucks because I can't imagine how many people are like, still being victimized by this and they're like, haven't gotten justice for it, but, like, what the hell else is there to do? Like, I, like there's just things, I guess, that are too powerful to ever get an answer to.

[Vinny]

Yeah, Adam or ya with this.

[Adam]

So thank God there's finally a grown up in the room. And that grown up is named Todd Blanche, if you can pull him up. He's the second highest ranking official in the doj, is the Deputy Attorney General. He was just on MSNBC Meet the Press with Kristen Welker and. And finally there's a grown up who's not buying into all the sensationalism that comes with Epstein. Now, of course, I'm not dismissing all the BS and ridiculousness and disgustingness that Epstein did, but finally there's someone who's more worried about justice and the law than sensationalism and views and clicks. And he gave it in a very emphatic interview with Kristen Welker. And I'm grateful that he did. And his whole thing is like, yes, we do want to release names, we do want to release files, but we also, according to the law, need to protect the victims because there's certain victims that don't want their name out there again.

[Vinny]

Let's hear it. Go ahead.

[Adam]

I don't know if you have that video, but he even called out. Is this the video? Go ahead, Go ahead.

[Pat]

Ask you about Ghislaine Maxwell, who was.

[Vinny]

Of course, convicted in 2021 for her.

[Pat]

Role in helping Jeffrey Epstein traffic his victims. In July, you interviewed her in Florida, where she was serving a 20 year.

[Adam]

Sentence in federal prison.

[Pat]

Just a week later, Maxwell was moved.

[Vinny]

To a more permissive prison camp in Texas. Why was she moved just days after.

[Pat]

You interviewed her, Mr. Blanche?

[Vinny]

So that's a Bureau of Prison Security.

[Brandon]

Issue that I will not talk about.

[Vinny]

Did you have anything to do with it?

[Adam]

Did you have anything to do with it?

[Vinny]

Let me finish.

[Adam]

First of all, I am responsible for.

[Brandon]

The Bureau of Prisons.

[Vinny]

So every decision that they make lands.

[Brandon]

On my own risk to the extent it needs to.

[Vinny]

But just let me, let me talk.

[Brandon]

About the security issue. At the time that I met Ms.

[Vinny]

Maxwell, there was a tremendous amount of.

[Brandon]

Scrutiny and publicity towards her and the institution she was in. She was suffering numerous and numerous threats against her Life. So the BoP is not only responsible.

[Vinny]

For putting people in jail and making.

[Brandon]

Sure they stay in jail, but also for their safety.

[Vinny]

And so. So she was moved. She is in federal prison. She was in federal prison before. She's in federal prison now.

[Brandon]

She's doing 20 years because she was convicted. And the fact that she was.

[Vinny]

She moved.

[Brandon]

She might be moved to another institution tomorrow if security requires it.

[Vinny]

And that's.

[Brandon]

That's true of, of any federal inmate across this country.

[Adam]

Well, you know, the only clip you have.

[Brandon]

Yeah. That didn't really make him look better the way you said.

[Pat]

And now you want to talk about trust. Do you know who Todd Blanche actually is and what he used to do? This was Donald Trump's, the absolute personal lawyer. That was Donald Trump's.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Former personal lawyer. There is a relationship there where this guy goes and talks to Ghislaine and all of a sudden she gets moved to another prison. But here's my, my one thing with you, Adam. I don't want to see victims. I don't want. How about this? I don't need to see any of this. The doj, the Department of Justice, the FBI, whoever, they've seen all the unredacted. They've seen all the videos that Pam Bondi said were there but then weren't there. So why no arrest? Why no arrest? If you have footage and you have proof that either Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Reid Hoffman, Ehud, Barack, anybody was with a underage girl, why hasn't one? Because you cannot be that naive, Adam. They Were somebody did something wrong. Okay, she's in jail for 20 years for trafficking underage girls. Where were the johns? Where were the dudes that were getting the girls? Not one arrest. This isn't some crazy. Oh, we're trying to connect dots. This isn't that game. They see everything. And that one arrest. So going to this point, that means the powerful, powerful rich elites are disgusting. Sleeping with underage girls. Call it pedophilia, call it whatever. Ok, whatever. They are maps. Ok? Somebody should be going down. She's the only one in jail, so that should tell you that the people here are like, shut up. And I'm not going to trust this guy either. Todd Blanche. He's the loudest, coolest guy in the room. He has a relationship with the president. Okay? And I'm not saying nothing wrong about the president because from what I've seen, Trump liked hanging out with models when he was young. Oh, my God, throw him in prison for the rest of his life. No, no. It's the Slick Willies, it's the Bill Clinton, it's the Bill Gates. It's all these people, Adam. I'm not saying, guess what? They fit the profile. Bill Gates wife said it. I left him because of his relationship with a pedophile. What does that tell you? They were bowling together. No, that says something bigger. So I get your point, but it's not a valid one. Somebody should be in jail, Adam. Does it not bother you?

[Brandon]

8, 000 pages and nobody held accountable?

[Adam]

Yeah. Okay, well, thank God attorneys and deputy generals don't need to respond to emotional men. That's.

[Pat]

That's such a go to. That's your go to. That's such a weak argument.

[Brandon]

What's emotional?

[Vinny]

Weak argument?

[Adam]

Argument.

[Vinny]

What are you talking about?

[Pat]

Being angry and emotional.

[Brandon]

It's a crazy topic.

[Adam]

Deputy Attorney General.

[Pat]

Who cares, Adam.

[Brandon]

It's a crazy.

[Pat]

I get that you call me.

[Vinny]

I get that you trustworthy nobody.

[Pat]

You trusted James Comey. He was the FBI director. You trust James Comey.

[Adam]

Throw you some tissues for.

[Pat]

Unbelievable how. You don't get it, Adam. You don't get it.

[Adam]

I'm. I'm talking calmly.

[Pat]

No, that doesn't matter.

[Brandon]

Let me ask a question that. So, wait, wait, so does it make sense, though, that nobody's name is mentioned? Does it make sense nobody's name is mentioned with 8,000 pages?

[Adam]

Here's what I'll say. Is this. Oh, my God, everyone, why is this all coming up when Trump is the president? Didn't the Democrats have all access to all these documents?

[Brandon]

We Were pissed about.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Pat]

Since I got.

[Adam]

So now everyone wants to pin it on Trump and you're like, work for Trump? I don't trust him.

[Brandon]

Doj. Grow up.

[Pat]

Department of Justice.

[Adam]

Do you think Trump was responsible for this, Epstein?

[Brandon]

We didn't say that.

[Pat]

I did not say who said that.

[Adam]

I get that you're getting.

[Pat]

No, of course.

[Adam]

There's something called the justice system, and none of us are lawyers, so stop pretending you understand what's going on here. I'm just following the facts of the case. I don't have emotional involvement like you do. Okay. I would like to see justice done the right way.

[Pat]

Okay.

[Adam]

Okay. And Humberto, I'm not sure if you have the actual text from the documents. Not emotional. Not teardrops, Not Kleenex. For you, Vinnie.

[Vinny]

Actual.

[Adam]

Actual things. Statements that were said in the documents. Do you have it?

[Brandon]

I'm pulling up. I'm being logical.

[Adam]

The Attorney General shall make publicly available internal DOJ communications, including emails, memos, meeting notes concerning decisions to charge or not charge investigator, decline to investigate Epstein or his associates. This is according to the Epstein files Transparency Act, Section 2A. Humberto, do you have any of this stuff that I text you? Okay. Second, no record should be withheld, delayed, or redacted on the basis of embarrassment, reputational harm, or political sensitivity, including to any government official, public figure, or foreign dignitary. This is what it says in the files. I don't have emotional involvement to what the DOJ is saying. So if you. If you want to hold people accountable, great, but also follow what the law is saying.

[Pat]

Adam.

[Vinny]

What?

[Pat]

What does the law. Adam?

[Adam]

I don't trust the law. I don't like the people that don't do what I say.

[Pat]

Adam, you trusted all these.

[Brandon]

We're talking logic, though. I'm like, is it logical that they did this giant release that everybody's waiting for where they're seeing the vast majority of suffers. At least they didn't mention one name of somebody who's a perpetrator.

[Adam]

Affect your life.

[Brandon]

It doesn't. That's not just having a conversation about what is logical.

[Adam]

There's things that are important. There's things you can control. I have no control over this. Is it important? Sure. Am I hanging on every word like you are?

[Pat]

Adam, do you think I thought about this before this weekend?

[Adam]

I think you think about it way more than average.

[Vinny]

Adam.

[Pat]

Guess what? You're wrong. I don't give two. Oh, you know what? I care about it. Hold on, hold on. Pretend you know when I care about it. Hold on. Hold on.

[Adam]

I've obviously obsessed with the episode.

[Pat]

Can I finish?

[Adam]

Go ahead.

[Pat]

I care about. I'm not obsessed with anything. I have one obsession, Adam. I have one obsession and you know what it is? This. This is an ongoing thing that drives me crazy because I'm not. It's not festering every day, but every time it comes up we're getting shafted. Okay? And you talk about the law, Adam. As if we're supposed to trust as.

[Adam]

We'Re people supposed to follow.

[Pat]

Adam.

[Adam]

See how this is what I was doing?

[Pat]

You're not letting me finish because you have a weak argument.

[Adam]

You say my argument is very simple and I'll give it to you right now. I trust. Trust the attorney general and the deputy attorney general. You trust more than crazy.

[Pat]

You trust. That's my Hillary Clinton.

[Adam]

That's my thing.

[Pat]

You trusted the effort to do with anything. You trust the wrong people.

[Adam]

You don't trust anybody guy.

[Pat]

Guess what? I trust God.

[Vinny]

Who do you trust?

[Adam]

Well, maybe God will come down.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

And deal with this.

[Pat]

Adam. You can't.

[Adam]

Until then, I'll trust for two minutes.

[Pat]

You know why I care, Adam? Because there is right now a 33 year old girl. A 30 year old girl, a 40 year old girl that was raped by these guys. And you're like this is the law. And worry about the law.

[Adam]

I'm just following the attorney general.

[Pat]

Hold on one second. You trust Bill Clinton? What? What do you think Bill Clinton, Attorney.

[Adam]

General for the 15th.

[Pat]

I don't give a damn.

[Adam]

Okay?

[Pat]

I'm asking.

[Adam]

Well, if you don't give a damn, the conversation's over.

[Pat]

I want emotional move on.

[Adam]

I'm trying to tell you.

[Pat]

Does anybody notice that he can't.

[Adam]

I don't care about. I'm a grown baby.

[Pat]

Do you think.

[Adam]

And I have emotions.

[Pat]

I want everybody to. When you don't have an argument and you can't. You don't have a point.

[Adam]

The argument is trust the government. Do you trust and the doj, not Vinnie.

[Pat]

Oh my God. Do you think that you think Bill Clinton or Bill Gates.

[Adam]

Why do you keep bringing Bill Clinton?

[Pat]

I'm asking you. Because that's your boy. Do you think that they did anything?

[Adam]

Bro, you're half or two right now. What do you mean that's my boy.

[Pat]

It's pointless, Adam. It's so.

[Adam]

You have no argument yelling at the moon right now.

[Pat]

You have no points.

[Vinny]

There was. There was a clip I saw of Jake Tapper showing 500 pages of literally all black. Okay. It's not names black. I don't know if you saw this or not. If you type in Jake Tapper, type in Jake Tapper. Epstein and Pat.

[Pat]

Jake, text me. Roll Khan is suing the DOJ because redaction Jake Tapper is your boy. The redactions were unbelievable as well. Epstein act. Act specifically lays out that if anything is redacted, it needed to be explicitly explained and they didn't do it.

[Vinny]

Yeah, right there, right there, right there. Go above, go above. Go above. Right there. Watch. Play that clip.

[Adam]

Watch this.

[Vinny]

Yeah, that.

[Adam]

The justice department release, it's 100 pages.

[Vinny]

What it looks like. I don't know if you can see. It's all.

[Pat]

Well, I trust. I trust the government.

[Vinny]

Yes. Of redaction. Yes.

[Pat]

That's the transparency we're getting here.

[Vinny]

Yeah. So that, that's the part where and.

[Adam]

Why did the Biden administration that was so obsessive do anything here? But by the way, so everything's on Trump, who clearly didn't do anything.

[Brandon]

Didn't even say his name.

[Vinny]

Let me say a couple thoughts and then we'll move on. Let me say a couple of thoughts. So to me, I love what Scott Jennings said. I love what Scott Jennings said about this. He said the best thing. They lost their shit. If you type in Scott Jennings, Epstein, they lost their shit when Scott Jennings said this. And yeah, right there, right there. That's the one. That's the one. Let that lady go and then Scott's gonna light him up. Light her up. Watch this.

[Adam]

After releases in 30 days, doesn't it.

[Pat]

Give more fodder for the conspiracies that exist?

[Adam]

I mean, they're not following the law.

[Brandon]

Well, look, they've released how many documents tonight? 200,000?

[Vinny]

More. More.

[Pat]

410% of that. So a good faith effort is being.

[Brandon]

Made to release files tonight.

[Adam]

Really?

[Brandon]

They're obviously doing that. And I think as it relates to.

[Pat]

Redaction actions mean my impression is, is.

[Brandon]

That there's a whole lot of names of victims in there and minors and other people that you probably wouldn't want to release and they do need to be redacted.

[Vinny]

Watch this regard. Lights out.

[Pat]

I'm sorry to tell you, the reason that Bill Clinton's picture is in the Epstein files is because this has always been a story about Bill Clinton and not Donald Trump. We should call it the Clinton files, not the Epstein files.

[Brandon]

That's what we're learning tonight.

[Pat]

This is the Clinton files. This is the blowing up in the.

[Vinny]

Face of the day.

[Brandon]

Democrats over this.

[Pat]

It's Bill Clinton.

[Brandon]

This is a story about Democrats and.

[Pat]

It's always been that way.

[Vinny]

Okay, so there you have it. And I'm with Scott. You know, I had Morgan and Morgan here, the lawyer, the other day. Very John Morgan. Phenomenal conversation. We've been communicating back and forth. Funny guy. And he's friends with Bill that right before coming on a podcast, he was with Bill for five hours. Of course he's defending Bills. Like, Bill was never on the island. Bill was never this. There are friends that are defending friends, and I get that, that those types of things are happening, but the reality of it is, if the Democrats really wanted this thing to be public. Dude, you've had a couple decades to drop this thing here. Go ahead and drop it now. I simply want to know what the hell is going on. But I also know I've made my position. I'm not going to make that argument of why they're not doing it, and it is not a popular position when I say that, but I understand why they wouldn't do it. To be able to hold some people hostage so they can control for decades. And to them, they believe that's more valuable than others. And by the way, if they don't live by the same values that you do, that's where the conflict comes in. Okay. They're going to be like, nah. To us, it's a job transactional. To you, it's emotional. It's important. Kids, I respect both sides of the argument. For me, I have my own position, but that's what I think, what they're doing with this. Let's move on to the next story. The next story I want to get into is. Do you want to go what Dave Chappelle said about Charlie Kirk? Sure, let's go to that one. Can you play the clip about what Dave Chappelle said about Charlie Kirk? Here's Dave Chappelle. He said a lot of things this weekend. A lot of things. I don't know if you watch it or not. Vinny, did you. How was it?

[Pat]

It's okay.

[Adam]

It was.

[Pat]

He's the. He's. He's the best. The. The first thing I saw, he had a Kaepernick. The name Kaepernick on the back of his shirt. I'm like, what the. Like, Colin Kaepernick, with all due respect, give me a effing break. The guy whose career went to. So he was like, let me grow my afro as big as possible and give me.

[Adam]

Come on, let's read the story.

[Pat]

And started hating on white people and his parents.

[Vinny]

I'm actually with Vinnie I'm actually with many. And the whites were quick to say this. They said, Charlie Kirk is this generation's Martin Luther King. Can we play it or no?

[Pat]

Netflix, can we.

[Adam]

Hold on.

[Pat]

I was gonna say, can you play this? I don't know.

[Adam]

Is this not the best.

[Pat]

No, no, no, we can play. No, what I'm saying is we give commentary about it.

[Adam]

I don't know if you could take it. As long as we give commentary. We're talking, we're talking. Hey, Netflix, don't take this down. We want to give you guys promotion on David. Yeah, come on, guys.

[Brandon]

Yeah, that's.

[Vinny]

That's a reach.

[Brandon]

Huh?

[Pat]

Saying that he's not ML.

[Vinny]

They both got Merchant murdered in a terrible fashion. They both got shot in the neck. But that's about where those similarities in. Jeez. Charlie Kirk is a Internet personality. No, by design. Fundamentally, he can't function like Dr. King. Internet are negative because they have to be because nobody will engage them unless they say that makes them upset. That's Charlie Kirk.

[Brandon]

Wow.

[Vinny]

Could you imagine? This is actually shame. Let him, let him finish. Let him finish like Charlie Kirk. Smash that like button and subscribe. Follow me for more content like this. I believe all black people should be free. Change my mind.

[Adam]

Crowded.

[Vinny]

Okay, go ahead, Adam.

[Adam]

Well, Dave Chappelle is just purely wrong about Charlie Kirk. I love Dave Chappelle. I've spent time with Dave Chappelle. I mean, he's in my opinion, the greatest comedian certainly of our generation. Chappelle's show was completely groundbreaking 20 years ago. Dealing with politics and race, religion, race relations and sexual relations, everything. Dave Chappelle pulls no punches. He's a free speech absolutist. He understands race and identity and culture, and he's a brilliant, brilliant guy. He's just dead ass wrong about Charlie Kirk. And to dismiss Charlie as just some Internet person is at the very least, uninformed. At the very most, just plain stupid, bro. Charlie Kirk was a monster. A giant in a political social culture that thrives off social media. He's not a social media influencer like some only fans chick or some kid that's just doing it for likes and clicks. He built a full on coalition that helped Donald Trump win in 2024. So to dismiss that as some Internet person is naive. And again, this is the whole thing. I'm not gonna condemn Dave Chappelle or say that he's wrong about everything. Dave Chappelle's right about most things. He's just wrong about this thing.

[Vinny]

Benny.

[Pat]

Yeah. Just to.

[Vinny]

I don't Know if you caught what he just did right there. Yeah, I definitely saw right there.

[Pat]

Well, they were what I do right there.

[Brandon]

Go ahead.

[Vinny]

No, no, go ahead.

[Adam]

It's.

[Pat]

We saw what you did. But think about it.

[Adam]

You know what? I'm out of here, guys.

[Pat]

They. They.

[Vinny]

I just use your rest.

[Pat]

No, I. By the way, him saying that he was Internet and he was just spewing negative things. Charlie sat in front of college campuses and people all over the country and engaged because of their negative crap. He was the light. He was the positivity. So to compare to say that, yeah, Martin Luther King. It was Martin Luther King.

[Brandon]

I get it.

[Pat]

Civil rights and all that, all that stuff. But to. To brush him off as some Internet guy. And by the way, Dave Chappelle is another one of these guys that just has that victim mentality. At the end of. He's like, man, we got to get this mother effing the orange man out. Like, really?

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Pat]

At the end of it, like, what do you.

[Adam]

What do you.

[Pat]

What is your obsession? Like, he's fallen into the. Like, he was talking about, like. And I get the joke of it. This. This. He got, you know, National Guard and here and here and in Washington and here. And they got him in Memphis. Well, Memphis actually looks pretty good because, you know, I was there, and it looked good because it was clean. He's. He's admitted. I know. I know that he's. He's. He's walking the line. But the whole like. And again, wearing the shirt with Kaepernick on the back tells me everything I need to know about where you're at. As if you want to talk about comparing them. What's the simple symbolism, but wearing that.

[Vinny]

What.

[Pat]

What is it? You know what I mean?

[Brandon]

Yeah. And I mean, not only is he wrong about Kirk, but he's wrong about Martin Luther King, too. He's painting Martin Luther King as if he walked on water and was holier than thou. Martin Luther King, not only he had, like, a ton of extramarital affairs where he was cheating on his wife. He was alleged to have watched sexual assault take place. He was alleged to have done numerous plagiarism throughout his academic career. So, like, a lot of the stuff that he was saying and a lot of stuff that he had credit for, like, might have been B.S. and he was. Wasn't the person he, like, painted himself as. You know, like, where Kirk was, like, super Christian, super good guy. And you don't think if Kurt. If MLK was alive today, he'd be using the hell out of social media. Of course he would be. So. So it's a like, it's a live streaming machine.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

All day, every day playing video games and you know, saying what he's saying.

[Brandon]

Yeah, Menace today.

[Vinny]

Yeah. No, he would be. By the way, my opinion, I want to go to the next story. My opinion, they both have a massive impact. Martin Luther King is a painting. I have two of a painting of him in my house that he's in. He's one of the only eight characters in that painting that I have. But to me, Charlie Kirk is bigger than Martin Luther King, period. Charlie Kirk, there's 4,600 hours of him. There's only about 4,200 hours of MLK speaking. You talk about the personal life. Even if you go watch some of his documentary, if you type in some of the. Just type in Dead Mentors is the painting. That's what you got to type. If you go look at some of his documentaries and what he's done. Dead Mentors. Not. Not the dude, Romney. Dead Men. There you go. That's a good images and you'll see it. So. No, but to me, Charlie Kirk, what he did is a lot tougher, you know, much bigger. I wouldn't say much tougher because mlk, what he did at his time was tough. But Charlie Kirk made a massive, massive impact. Mlk, peaceful protest, the things that he did. Selma followed his story very closely. But I just think Charlie's legacy is going to be bigger long term than MLK's. My opinion, I think Charlie's legacy is going to be not, not two times, 100 times bigger than MLK's long term, simply because there's more stuff that's documented with Charlie than there was with mlk.

[Adam]

I don't know if Charlie is gonna end up being bigger than mlk. Regardless. To me, mlk, Charlie Kirk, some of the greatest Americans to ever live. You only try to assassinate the people who are the people moving the needle? Abraham Lincoln, jfk. What they try to do to trump mlk. So I'm just saying our friend Brandon over here basically only listed the, the, the negative about mlk because he said he was perfect. Okay, who said he's perfect?

[Brandon]

Dave Chappelle. Did he?

[Adam]

Nobody's perfect.

[Brandon]

Yeah, but he made him sound like he was perfect.

[Adam]

Okay, but to only highlight the negatives of MLK is doing a disservice to MLK and the country. I.

[Vinny]

Let's go.

[Adam]

He was one of the greatest Americans.

[Vinny]

Guys. Commerce Secretary predicts extraordinary year ahead. Meaning 2026 as inflation drops to 2.7% in November and even liberals don't know what to say. Well, it's 2.7, but we don't know it's going to stick like this. Is it not what's going to happen? They're not happy about the fact that this thing is at 2.7% right now. Brian, I'm coming to you with this one here because the number here let me close members of Trump, Howard Lutnick said the drop is proof the White House policies are finally pushing down prices. Responding to Democrats who urge administration hasn't done enough to improve the economy. Is this the video you have omberto to play? Can we hear from Latnik first? I think you have a video of him. You had it marked off as one of the videos. You got it. Go for it, buddy. President said he was going to bring prices down and that he was going to grow our revenue through tariffs, but he was not going to let prices go up. We're cutting energy prices, we're cutting interest rates. Right. These things are coming down. And I think what you're going to see next year is an extraordinary year. Energy prices down, interest prices down, and earnings up, up, up.

[Brandon]

Okay, Brandon, So, yeah, biggest gasoline campaign in the history. History of the world, possibly.

[Pat]

What?

[Brandon]

Not, not this specifically, I'm not trying to be too hard on Trump in the administration, but just the way that inflation is measured and reported to us. Biggest gasoline campaign in the history of the world. Because when the government says, oh, good news, guys, inflation's down, the CPI consumer price index went from 3% last year to 1.8% this year. So it's cheap. Things are cheaper now. No, it's not actually true. That just means that inflation went up by 3% last year and then went up by an additional 1.8% this year. So nothing's cheaper. It just went up at a slower rate. Right. So the only way that inflation actually goes down is if that number was negative. But the problem is that if that number is negative, the economy is likely in a recession. So that's the problem with the way that the economy works. Does that make sense?

[Pat]

Yes. But here's. But is what's happened now, I know they're trying to spin it to not make them look bad, but is this a result of the past four years of everything, the printing the money and doing all that?

[Brandon]

Yeah, yeah. The printing the money is like the main driver of the reason that, like, the most important things are more expensive. Like the like. Yes. I won't argue against the fact that they're trying to make it better. Like, oil is going down.

[Vinny]

That's.

[Brandon]

That's good. Things that are within control are going down. But then, like, stuff like housing, cars, food, transportation, energy, like, the energy, like, like for your house, not for the car, that stuff's still going up so that, like, people are still getting pinched by that. But, yeah, sure, the, the rate of inflation is going down compared to last year. So, yeah, that's a positive. But it's ridiculous to act like the problem of affordability is fixed or anywhere close to being fixed.

[Pat]

Do you think that that's the biggest issue right now that they're dealing with besides all the. All the. Okay, I get it. But is that the main issue for meaning voters?

[Brandon]

Yeah, I think that's their biggest liability for sure. And especially for him to. Because he kind of does the stubborn thing where he doubles and triples down when he feels like he's getting pinched by something. So I think that's the right approach for him to say that. Like, it's not his fault either. Like, he did print some of the money, but Biden just, like, quadrupled the amount of money those prints.

[Pat]

So, man, if you're, if you're. If you're in the administration and you're going to speak to the public about what's happening and not play the. It was all Biden's fault, how do you explain to them in a. In layman's terms, like, hey, listen, besides it being them, this is what we're doing to try to fix it?

[Adam]

Because.

[Vinny]

Are they trying?

[Brandon]

Yeah, yeah. No, like, I like that you're critical, Brandon.

[Pat]

Good, because I went to Whole Foods and I went. I'm not even joking. And I don't shop crazy. I'm a simple carnivore. Whatever.

[Vinny]

Yeah, bro.

[Pat]

It was so expensive, Chase declined. And, like, it's fraud. That's how much. I'll show you right now.

[Vinny]

I'm going to show you.

[Pat]

While he's talking, Chase was like, hey, did somebody say steal your guard? I'm like, no, I'm at Whole Foods. I go, okay, it's you.

[Vinny]

I'm not.

[Brandon]

That's hilarious. But no, like, stuff like housing, food, energy.

[Vinny]

Did you see Sachs and Jason debate this out? No. This just happened. Rob, play this clip on what Sachs said happened last 90 days. Go ahead. You know, the thing about polls is.

[Brandon]

It'S obviously just a snapshot in time.

[Vinny]

And it doesn't tell you what things are going to look like six months from now or a year from Now I think they're going to look very good.

[Brandon]

Yeah, I mean, maybe he turns it around.

[Vinny]

I think it's already been turned around.

[Brandon]

It just takes time to kick in. Yeah. I mean the public's perception, it hasn't turned around. And inflation was supposed to go down and it stayed. It has.

[Pat]

No, it stayed at.

[Adam]

It's still way above the 2%.

[Vinny]

It's been 1.6% for the last three months.

[Adam]

No, it has not.

[Brandon]

It was just 2.7. No, that's the year.

[Pat]

That's the problem, I think with the.

[Brandon]

Administration and you're part of it. Like you guys cherry pick numbers and.

[Vinny]

It'S not matching the numbers on the field. So when you cherry picking, this is cpi the number.

[Brandon]

Open the COVID of the Wall Street Journal. 2.7.

[Vinny]

Hold on. 2.7% CPI, 2.6% Core, 1.6% for last three months.

[Pat]

Okay.

[Brandon]

What is hard to understand about this. No, no.

[Vinny]

Obviously the last three months are going.

[Brandon]

To tell you what the trajectory is. Okay.

[Vinny]

The fact is you're looking for every excuse you can. No, no, no. Basically downplay what is made the most money.

[Brandon]

Just look at the stock market, which.

[Vinny]

Is ripping today because this is way below expectations. You're the only one who's not happy about this news, Jacob.

[Brandon]

No, no, no. The country's not happy about it. I don't have a horse in this race. I'm doing fantastic. I own equities.

[Adam]

I'm doing better than I ever have in my life.

[Vinny]

I'm talking about how the bottom half of America perceives it. This is the blind spot of the Trump administration.

[Adam]

You've proved my point by not addressing it.

[Vinny]

Let's go to the next step. No, I haven't. What?

[Adam]

No.

[Pat]

American posit positive.

[Vinny]

Go ahead.

[Brandon]

So he, he didn't argue that the right way, like, you know, I, I deeply love Trump and the administration, what they're doing, thankful that they're in place. But the way, like the problem is the way that we measure inflation is with the CPI and it's a flawed way to measure it. So like to say, oh, inflation is down because last year the CPI was at 3%, now it's at 1.6%. That doesn't mean inflation's down, that just means it's going up slower than it did last year. Right. There was no reduction in the actual amount of inflation. Does that make sense? Like if it's at 3.5, if it's at 3 last year and 1.5 this year, that means it's at 4.5 between the last two years. Right. So, you know, you see what I'm saying? Like, it's not actually down, it's just slowing.

[Vinny]

But to give credit, they are working towards lowering what was going on under Biden when it hit 9%, for sure.

[Brandon]

It's just. It's just insulting for them to tell people like, no, it's like, it's not actually a problem. Relax.

[Vinny]

No, no, I think there's a. There's two things here, okay, Bran? There is. It's not a problem. I think it is a problem. I think who created this problem is the problem.

[Brandon]

Yeah. And I'm not saying he did.

[Vinny]

No, he did. So then that's. That's the part. So then they want to make sure you're not saying it's because of them. No, because for them to have accelerated to bring down the pricing and, you know, think at the pace that they have, that part is on them to say that, you know, affordability is a not real issue. That's where you lose. Right. Just watch how Mamdani won. Just watch how the mayor of Miami won. All she has to say is, can you afford to pay $4000 a month for rent four years ago, 12 years ago, used to be $1800. How are you going to pay $4000 a month? And they're like, yeah, that's what I'm dealing with.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

Because my income didn't double in the last five years.

[Brandon]

Right.

[Vinny]

But my rent doubled in the last five years. So now I got to leave Miami and I got to go live in a different place. Affordability is a real issue. They're working towards it. I think 2026. I'm still at the place of. I think 2026 is going to be a magical, magical year, Adam.

[Adam]

Well, as they've said, it's the economy, stupid. So affordability is just a new word for the economy. And that's great. So what I love about the all in podcast is what I love about our podcast. Let them debate. And that's great. They had different positions on it. That's amazing. We've seen the downfall of certain podcasters who just look in the mirror, looking up a camera all by themselves and pretend that they have all the information. Information. And there's zero pushback by anybody else. The beauty about a panel or a roundtable is we can debate. Vinny's right is Vinny's wrong. Okay, great. Whatever's going on. So respect to the all in podcast for having that debate in the public forum. That's amazing. To me, I think everyone wants to nitpick Trump or every little thing that he did. Well, would you rather have Kamala? Would you rather have what Biden did? No. So in my opinion, Howard Lucknick is an absolute professional, grown up Commerce Secretary doing the right thing with these tariffs. It's going to take time. It might take till 2026, it may take it beyond. But what were our alternatives? Continue to kick the can down the road over taking advantage of by all these countries all around the world bs. So Trump did the hard thing, the hardest thing to do and is to say, you know what, I'm going to be the bad guy like in Scarface. Yeah. Look at me. Say say good night to the bad guy. Yeah, Trump's the bad guy. That's fine. But it's to be pro America. So it's so easy to nitpick Trump. Oh, I don't like what he did here. I don't like what he did here. What's the alternative then, guys? You have Kamala running the show. To me, that's a non starter. So our past leaders have sold us out to China, have sold manufacturing out the window. They've lowered cheap goods for the rest of Americans. Trump's bringing in tariffs and fair trade and free trade ever you want to put it. But at the end of the day, Trump is doing a net positive long term for the American economy and there's going to be some short term bumps in the road.

[Pat]

You made a great point. You actually said it without even saying it. Donald Trump actually does the things that all these politicians promise to say they're going to do. He's like, hey, go ahead, I'll do it. And it's going to hurt for this little moment, but we're going to get past it. It's changing.

[Adam]

We're going to get past it.

[Vinny]

Let's do, let me see here. Let's do, let's do a couple more stories here before we wrap up. What video do you, what story do you, did you really prepare for the most that you want me to go to?

[Adam]

Do we want to talk any pop culture stuff with Jake Paul, you want.

[Brandon]

To go to the L1's fun too. I mean the minutes, the yell one where the.

[Vinny]

Let's do Yale. Yes. Let's do yelling on that and then we'll do dog number one.

[Brandon]

I could relate to that.

[Vinny]

Nearly 30 Yale undergraduate departments have no Republican faculty. Anybody surprised?

[Brandon]

No.

[Vinny]

Buckley Institute reports. By the way, the great William Buckley was phenomenal. William Buckley was phenomenal.

[Adam]

F. I'm not saying F. William Buckley.

[Vinny]

Watch your language.

[Adam]

Okay, sorry.

[Vinny]

Okay. What page is that story?

[Adam]

It's on page five.

[Vinny]

Let me go to page five. Here we go. So I don't. Is it on addendum page. But no, no, no.

[Adam]

Nearly 30 Yale undergraduate departments have no Republican faculty.

[Vinny]

I don't have it on page five. That's what I'm telling you.

[Adam]

It's under. It's under U.S. news. U.S. right. Under the Fed.

[Pat]

Yeah, I. I have it on screen.

[Adam]

It's the second.

[Vinny]

I know, but I'm trying to go to the page so I can read it. Oh, it says page three, but it's page four. It's not three. Okay, okay. Recent stuff. We're going to go to The Republican Department. 27 departments.

[Brandon]

Okay.

[Vinny]

For the third year in a row, our research has highlighted a significant political and ideological imbalance among Yale faculty. Lauren Noble, founder and executive director of Buckley Institute, said in a statement, Yale has committed repeatedly over decades to fostering an environment conducive to open debate and discussion, but has all but excluded diversity of opinion through its hiring process. She said, with such a dramatic ideological. Ideological chasm between a Yale campus and the country, it's not hard to see why trust for higher education is so low. The Buckley Institute's report looked at Yale's undergraduate department as well as its School of Management and Law School. It found that nearly 83% of faculty are registered Democrats. Damn. Primarily support Democratic candidates. More than 15% identify as independent. Ready.

[Pat]

Only 3% of faculty is Republicans, probably secretly.

[Vinny]

Oh, my God. By the way, those three are about to get killed. Most notably, 27 out of 43 undergrad departments have zero registering Republicans on their faculty.

[Brandon]

Faculty.

[Vinny]

The report also pointed to Yale's Woodward Report, which defines the university's principle on free speech and academic openness. Holy moly. This is ridiculous. Brandon, your thoughts on this?

[Brandon]

Yeah, so I could relate to this one 100%. So when I, when I was a junior or senior in college, it was when Trump was running for president in 2016, and I would spend like 20 minutes in every class being argued with by all 30 people around me. Like, so my professors were. They were like, consists of people from the CIA, from dhs, from Homeland Security, from State Department, and they were all so liberal. And I didn't even realize it until the election. It was like how the mainstream media got activated and became, like, vicious about it. That's how my professors became. And that like, you know, as a byproduct of mo. Most of the class was like that. And I literally had to write things in a way where I sounded liberal to not get a bad grade.

[Vinny]

Stop.

[Brandon]

I swear to God. Yeah, like, and this is a guy.

[Vinny]

That has a bachelor's in National Security and a master's in National Security.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

What percentage of professors? First of all, how many people major in national security?

[Brandon]

There's a big class. There's like 20 to 80 kids in every class. The entire department was probably a couple hundred kids in National Security.

[Vinny]

What percentage your classmates and professors were liberal?

[Brandon]

I think, like, probably 95% of classmates.

[Vinny]

And professors were little professors.

[Brandon]

I'd never met a conservative professor at my school. Classmates, 95% liberal.

[Vinny]

Wow. What a great exercise for you, though.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

To still come out being conservative.

[Brandon]

Oh, yeah. Well, I, I.

[Vinny]

Did you ever flirt with being a liberal? Did you ever say, I'm going to paint my hair pink or. Not a single time. No, not did it. To maybe pretty as Mary was. You didn't do it?

[Brandon]

No, never. And especially that year because, like, I didn't think about this stuff that much until that year. But everything like it. It's like switched from black and white to in color. It all made sense. But yeah, no, I literally had to write papers that were like, anti Trump to, like, get a good grade because my, My professors were just viciously against them. And, you know, it's like they're from the deep state. But I think the reason that Democrats gravitate towards academia or that they end up being Democrats if they're in academia is because there's no real merit required to being a college professor with tenure. It's like, it's one thing if you go from being a professional in an industry to. To being a college professor afterwards, but if you start off as a college professor and you're there for 20 years, you're not really graded on anything. You're not really, like, held accountable for the results of what you produce. And that's like a very liberal mindset to. To not have to be, like, accountable for what you produce.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

And this is pretty wild. So, Humberto, can you type in what are the values? Yale University values? What values does Yale University. University claim they built their institution off of? Okay, can we find that out? Like, I'm trying to find out. Maybe Brandon is upset right now because Adam said some stuff and he's just not in a good mood.

[Adam]

I don't think Brandon's maybe.

[Vinny]

So it says to me, the core mission of Yale, improving the world today and for future generation through outstanding research, scholarship, education, preservation, preservation and practice. Achieving this mission through the free exchange of ideas in a community that is ethical, independent, and diverse. Bullshit.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

You know, they should change and said achieving this through the free exchange of ideas only from the liberal side and 3% being Republicans and making sure to oust any Republican students and professors at Yale University, that should be it. So, yo, what happened to you, Yale? Huh? What happened to you? Did you drink some of that fruit punch that made all of you guys into liberals? Did you guys get scared of debate? Is that what happened to you? How do you process this? Adam, when you went to school, aside from drinking, was there a lot of debating going on? Like, when you went to school, you played football, you went to.

[Adam]

My freshman year, I went to North Carolina. I was going to North Carolina, then I went to Florida State.

[Vinny]

Okay, what. What role did debate play in. In the schools you went to?

[Adam]

Well, I didn't go to a woke liberal university. I went to a Florida state school, and I had friends of all different ideologies. The whole thing with the. With the ideological spectrum is as long as you fall in line to every single physical attribute, gender, race, none of it matters. But if you ideologically differ from what's going on in the woke left, you're excommunicated. So the beauty of going to a school like Florida State or even University of Florida or any sort of state school that actually supports let's have a conversation and debate. I would feel comfortable sending my kids. When I grew up, Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Brown. These were prestigious universities. They're honestly looked at as like a joke. They've. They're like woke training camps for young college kids. I'd. I'd like. If my kid, if I had one, if my nephew got into Harvard, I'd be like, I don't know. I think I would. I have. I have cousins that go to Boulder, and I just say, don't get woke. Don't get woke. That's one of the most woke universities out there. I have family friends that go to ucla. Don't get woke up. So there's a difference between being in these amazing universities, networking, amount of being around amazing kids who are doing something with their lives. But to pretend like this is not just a woke training ground of the LGBTQIA + phenomenon and the pro Palestine movement and the socialist Marxist indoctrination of her kids, you'd just be turning a blind eye to exactly what's going on here. Here's that chart right there. Humberto. If you show that this is something we talked about when the pro Palestine Movement. The pro Palestine to me isn't anti Israel, it's anti America. Show me people in the pro Palestine movement who are waving the American flag. To me it's all about America. Forget anything else. Here's this charter that we've talked about. This. The more expensive and elite of a university, the more likely there was a pro Palestine encampment. That's the thing in the green. So it just shows that if you're going to like a state college or a local city college, you're just trying to get your degree and get shit done. There's no protests, there's no encampments. So it's the richer and the more elite you are, the more affluent you think you are, the more you think you're right. There's a difference between book smart and being wise. A lot of these kids are book smart and completely idiots. I learned this. Oh, sorry, sorry, saved your life. We learned this the hard way when PBD went and debated all those socialist Marxists, communists at the. What was it called? The thing.

[Pat]

Jubilee.

[Adam]

Jubilee. Every single one of those kids was smart, but they were all useful idiots. They all like kind of knew some stuff they were doing. Book smart stuff. This guy's got to go bathroom. Yeah, look at him.

[Pat]

His bladder's gone.

[Brandon]

Oh, wow.

[Adam]

Grow up, bro.

[Brandon]

Retirement home.

[Adam]

But all of them were absolute morons. Use useful idiots. Book smart. Yeah, but absolute unwise.

[Pat]

And if you think about it, Charlie Kirk was on all those campuses fighting these people. Converting, converting, but, but, but trying to like break that mindset. Which mind you, Brandon, it's not their fault their teachers are, are brainwashing them.

[Adam]

But this goes back to exactly what Pat talked about so eloquently. The beginning of the show is that we have to realize what the true enemy in our way is. It's this Marxist woke left ideology. And then they're just training every single one of our smart kids. Not to mention all the kids from foreign governments who come here from China and Qatar and all these funded universities. So to me, we have to stop the infighting on the right and realize that this WOKE training ground on the left is really. We need to focus.

[Vinny]

Yeah. By the way, again, I'm on Yale's website and I'm still there. I'm telling you, I'm still there.

[Adam]

Okay?

[Vinny]

And I'm looking at Yale's website. How the hell. Okay, like to succeed, it takes maximum advantage of academic problems. Okay? Great exploit of any intellectual curiosity, the depth of their humanity and their rigor. Purposeful scholarship. Okay, fine. Take Responsibility for their personal growth and development. Seeking well being and balance in their lives. Fine. Cultivate their connections to others. Yale community, New Haven, our society and the larger. Prepare for a lifetime of. Characterized by learning, service. Yale is committed to improving the world today and for the future generation. Through outstanding research and scholarship, education, preservation and practice. Yale educates aspiring leaders worldwide who serve all sectors of society. And again, it goes to. We carry out this mission through the free exchange of ideas in an ethical, independent and diverse community. Faculty, staff, students and alumni. And only 3% is Republican. Shame on you, buddy. That is a, that is a monopoly. That is a monopoly. Yeah, we went to, we went to Yale. You and I, not we.

[Adam]

Nobody in our audience believed the one who said we went to Yale. They're like, pat went to Yale. And then they knew Vinny never went to Yale.

[Vinny]

Then he went to yell.

[Adam]

Then we went to yell at people. We went, we definitely didn't go to Yale.

[Vinny]

We went to Yale to drop off one of our friends, a 13 year old. We went to drop the sky guy and at the time when we dropped, yeah, he was still 13. We dropped him off and we're just looking around. I'm thinking to myself, man, I'm surrounded by 97% liberals.

[Pat]

Oh my goodness.

[Vinny]

So, you know, I, I, I'm, you know, we're in the, you know, like, messing with people business and I'm trying to talk to people and I'm like, if I do and they, they, you know, this kid's gonna go there and they're gonna know immediately. So we ended up having a conversation anyways. I'm not going to tell the whole story what happened there.

[Pat]

Well, are you thinking about it?

[Vinny]

No, I'm not gonna say.

[Adam]

We know where this ended.

[Vinny]

It didn't end well.

[Pat]

He came back, our friend came back.

[Adam]

With a nose ring, a piercing blue hair. And he goes by they themselves. That was a joke.

[Pat]

Show a photo of what Yale on the outside looks like.

[Brandon]

It's gorgeous.

[Pat]

What is Vinnie doing right there? I got, I got.

[Adam]

The book is upside down and you're reading doctor Suits.

[Pat]

I got a book yesterday for pet Sick book. It's ridiculous, right?

[Adam]

Sick.

[Pat]

Could you go, go to Yale and just look at the outside of it.

[Brandon]

It's beaut. It's beautiful.

[Pat]

Look at, look at that, bro. Like and like it by the way we walk in there, I'm like, wow. It's okay. It look, once we got inside, it was like the LGBTQ Hogwarts quartz. That's what it looked like. The inside it like Once you're.

[Vinny]

You're not joking, though.

[Pat]

It looked gorgeous.

[Adam]

Yeah, of course. It's like a Miami supermodel. They look gorgeous on the outside. When you get to know them, you're like, this person is broken, Adam. That's Yale.

[Vinny]

And the.

[Pat]

And the.

[Adam]

It looks like a prestigious university, and then it's just a woke training camp.

[Pat]

The.

[Adam]

For the lgbtqia Aggressive.

[Vinny]

Adam's now dealing with it.

[Adam]

I'm in there, bro.

[Pat]

I don't. I don't even want to.

[Adam]

Well, I'll tell you one thing. One time I was. Can I tell the story?

[Pat]

I'm almost.

[Adam]

Okay, go ahead.

[Pat]

I don't want to miss gender or miss2spirit. I don't know what this thing was.

[Brandon]

That was.

[Pat]

This thing that was. I don't want to get he, she, them, they, us offended. But it's the person that's, like, now, we've waited in this line for, like, an hour. We get to the front, I swear to you, I don't know if it was a guy. I don't know if it was a girl. He had hair here. It had breasts. And I was like. Even Tico was like, Tigo's like, that's not. He's like, that's not real.

[Vinny]

I was like, now this person's talking to him, and he does, like, he doesn't know how to cook it.

[Pat]

He's, like, trying to figure out what it is.

[Vinny]

I'm like, buddy, I've been prepping you. This is what. It's the moment.

[Pat]

Like, trying to figure out, like, a crossword puzzle. That's really hard. Like, wait a minute. And he's looking at me, and I'm like, no, look at me. I couldn't tell you.

[Adam]

Let me give you a hot tip with these people. Yeah. Just assume they have a penis.

[Pat]

At the end of the day, whatever's.

[Adam]

Going on, whoever they're identifying, it's some weird dude who's trying to pretend he's not that.

[Vinny]

Yeah, well, that's what it is.

[Adam]

So did you meet any actual normal girls at Yale?

[Brandon]

It doesn't exist.

[Pat]

No.

[Adam]

One time I was visiting.

[Vinny]

There was a couple.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Once I was visiting a friend in the Northeast area, and I meet this girl, very pretty. She goes, I go to Harvard. I was like, wow, Gorgeous. Harvard. And we start talking. We ended up. This is. I'm in my 20s. I'm in college in Florida State.

[Vinny]

This is old school.

[Adam]

It's old school. And I'm like, this girl's kind of an idiot. How does she go to Harvard? And I'm like, you know, take her on a couple dates. I'm. How's school? Yeah, it's really challenging. And I'm like, so how did you get into Harvard? She goes, no, I go to Hartford, Connecticut.

[Pat]

I go.

[Adam]

It makes complete sense now.

[Pat]

Ccsu.

[Vinny]

I get it.

[Adam]

I get it. You're from Connecticut.

[Vinny]

Who is the dummy there that didn't understand the difference between Hartford? But don't worry, I'm dating a girl from Harvard.

[Adam]

That's true, man. I'm really in here, bro. 5.0 GPA.

[Vinny]

It's called GCC. Glendale Community College, where the goats go to. Just so you know, that goes. That goes. If you went to gcc, you're part of a very special fraternity. Also, Santa Monica Community College. Don't get it twisted. Legends go to those universities. Legends. Arnold went to Santa Monica Community College. So did this guy. And when we took this guy, we took calculus in college. You know, who was the curve in the class?

[Adam]

Was it you?

[Pat]

That guy.

[Adam]

That's a good thing, though.

[Vinny]

That's a good thing. I was actually good at math. I was on the honor roll at Santa Monica Community College. This is high school. I only paid attention to math. I could care less about anything else. Life wasn't very knowing at that time. But when I went there, I was going to go get my degree and everything. I'm like, yeah, no, I'm going to go in sales and business. And then, you know, it kind of worked out. And the rest is history. You know, the rest is history. But, yeah, that's where I went. Santa Monica Community College.

[Adam]

Well, this is why Charlie Kirk to. To put a button on this, A ribbon on this. He wrote a book called College is a Scam. We're starting to see it's all kind of a scam.

[Vinny]

Okay. All right, M. Let's go to a couple other stories before we wrap up. You know that's a song, right? Anyways, I'm not gonna wait. Let's go to Jake Paul. Jake Paul fights Anthony Joshua, a real boxer. Both of them make $92 million.

[Adam]

Unbelievable.

[Vinny]

Both of them. Okay? It was a spectacle. Everybody was at this fight, okay? Insanity. Friday night, Miami craziness, you know? And then in the sixth round, Anthony Joshua knocks him out. If you see in one of the interviews, which I don't know if you've seen this or not, he's showing his jaw. He says, my jaw is broken. Okay, I believe it. He says, my jaw is broken. And I'm like. It's kind of like when Mike Tyson Said I have a broken vertebrae.

[Pat]

Broke my back.

[Vinny]

Yeah, they broke my back. Which part?

[Pat]

Spinal.

[Vinny]

Spinal. Yeah, spinal. And my neck. If you just type in Jake Paul jaw. That's all you got to type in. Type in Jake Paul jaw. Okay, not that one. Jake Paul. Jake Paul. That's. That's how he gets knocked out. Okay. He gets knocked out. Jake Paul jaw. And then he says, my jaw's broken. Okay, keep going. And then if you go a little bit lower right there, he opens his mouth. That's the one. Go ahead. Let him do that. Look at his. Look at his teeth. Yikes. Do you see it?

[Brandon]

Oh.

[Vinny]

Oh, my God. It's tough to see. Okay, it's tough to see right here. Watch. It's coming. Boom. That's it. That's what broke it. And there's a picture of that. That. That, by the way. Yeah, he posts himself. Anyways, the reality is Joshua made more money with this fight with Jake Paul than any other fight. And by the way, apparently Anthony Joshua is a big businessman. He owns a bunch of buildings. You know, the properties and buildings that he owns. I don't know if you know the portfolio. I'll come to you. What do you know? What do you want to say about what happened with Jake Paul and Andrew Tate and all the fights that happened this weekend?

[Adam]

Well, Jake Paul knows how to throw a show. Good for him. He's making a ton of money. You don't have to be a great boxer. You just have to be a great showman these days. He earned every penny. I mean, he sold it out in Netflix. A lot of my friends in Miami went there. It was a. It was a. It was a spectacle. Now, let's not get it twisted. If it really came down to a real fight, this heavyweight boxer, Anthony Joshua, could have knocked out Jace Paul in the first round, straight up. It felt like the most rigged fight ever, because at any point, Anthony Joshua could have whooped his ass and knocked him out. And then I found out that there was a clause that you can't knock him out until at least the fifth round.

[Pat]

Allegedly.

[Adam]

That's what I heard. Could be wrong, but at any given point, Anthony Joshua could have done this, but shout out to Jake Paul for throwing a show and making people turn out. If people are going to pay the money for you to show up and you break your job, by the way, any one of you in the audience, if you want to give me a hundred million dollars, come right, punch me straight in the face. I won't talk for six months. I'm Sure, a lot of people do that for free, but for a hundred million dollars, break my jaw, I'll be silent for six months, sipping on soup, counting my money. So good for Jake Paul. Him and his brother are Apple, absolute beast performers. Now, Andrew Tate, a lot of people want to come after Tate because he lost. It's so easy to pile on Tate at this point. Andrew Tate's one of the biggest badasses we've ever seen. Verbally, linguistically, culturally, socially. Yeah, there's things I disagree with Tate about, but I'm not going to condemn the guy because we don't see eye to eye on everything. Yes, it's not a good look that he lost to this whoever Love island guy, but to me. How old is Tate now? He's probably 40, 49. Okay, he's 40. He's fighting a young guy. Okay. So that might lessen his credibility, so to speak. To me, Tate is, is a gangster in, in many ways than one. And I'm gonna make a prediction if you really want to sell things out, if you really want to break the Internet. Jake Paul versus Andrew Tate, it's the height of social media culture. It's the height of what people want to see. For all that, Anthony Joshua is great at boxing. He don't have the name recognition of Andrew Tate. I think the world would love to see a Jake Paul versus Andrew Tate. And if it was a boxing match, you're probably going to give it to Jake, and if it's a sort of MMA thing, you give it to Tate. But I think the world wants to see that fight next. What do you think, Vinny?

[Pat]

Listen, shout out to the business part. Business savvy. Him, his brother. I won't take that away. Congratulations. I love when people, when you have an opinion, you're just a hater. No, I don't hate because I, I truly don't care. But I think this type of stuff delegitimizes boxing. That once, once, like Conor Floyd, all this money grab stuff, it takes away. Like, I used to watch, Like, I used. I grew up watching Mike Tyson. Okay? I, I Hagler Hearns, Roy Jones Jr. Those were like, bro, that was like, oh, my God, you were going to see a fight. These are content creators. This is a guy that was on Disney or Nickelodeon playing with Sparkles, and now you're getting in a ring, which, Which I think is. Dude, he broke his jaw. He could have been Adam. This could cause brain damage and kill you. And I don't care how much money you get. I don't to me, it ain't worth it. You, dude, if he hit him for.

[Adam]

A hundred million dollars, I'll punch you in the face right now.

[Vinny]

You'll take it.

[Pat]

When we were growing up, didn't we hear this a lot? Would you let Mike Tyson punch you in the face once for a million bucks? We always heard that. And people are like, for a million, probably not 100, you would knock your freaking head off. And this is an example of a guy that pretends to be a fighter. Yeah, he knows how to fight.

[Adam]

You're not me. You wouldn't fight Anthony Joshua or somebody for $100 million.

[Pat]

And he's gonna go all out and try to kill me.

[Adam]

No, I'm not a tough guy.

[Pat]

I'm not breaking my neck for anybody.

[Adam]

And that's.

[Pat]

Think about it, his brother business. His brother does pretend fighting in the WWE or whatever, and he's pretending to be a professional boxer, and he got his freaking jawbroker broken. It's a dip, bro. It's a dangerous thing. And I. I saw Adam. You're right. It was like he was making him last, and he could have wrecked him in the first round. But as the sport, it's like, I would. I want to see those guys go to ufc.

[Vinny]

Go.

[Pat]

Go try that in the UFC against real fighters. I don't believe it. Like Mike Tyson. If you watch the Mike Tyson fight with him, you could see that Mike Tyson was holding back.

[Adam]

And not even Mike Tyson was 175 years old when he fought.

[Pat]

Jake must. Yeah, somebody else. I'm just saying, though, I think it delegitimizes sport for real boxing fans out there.

[Vinny]

They hate this.

[Adam]

Let me tell you something, buddy. I'm the reason that people watch this and not regular boxing, because regular boxing hasn't done a good job of promoting what you should be watching.

[Pat]

Well, that's on.

[Adam]

Other than Tyson Fury, other than Ryan Garcia, who the hell do you watch in real boxing? UFC has taken the mantle of the sport everyone has to see. When Floyd Mayweather retired and Conor McGregor was the guy in the UFC. And it's gone down the list of all the greats at the ufc. Jon Jones, and the list goes on. UFC is now the greatest combat sport in. In the world. Boxing is relegated to Jake Paul versus whatever person he's fighting against.

[Pat]

Yeah. 60 year old. So this is what's, like, I look.

[Adam]

At it the other way. This is actually making boxing relevant. If Jake Paul wasn't doing this. Who the hell are you watching?

[Vinny]

I'm.

[Pat]

I stopped watching boxing A long time ago.

[Adam]

Terence Crawford. Terence Crawford, Is that his name?

[Pat]

Yeah. Got beat up by S. Anderson Silva?

[Adam]

No, no, he just. He, he, he retired. The, the great boxer that beat.

[Pat]

Oh, okay. Yeah, my bad.

[Adam]

What's the Mexican dude?

[Pat]

The Mexican guy.

[Vinny]

Who's Canelo guy?

[Pat]

Canelo.

[Adam]

He beat Canelo.

[Vinny]

Oh, my God.

[Adam]

And then he beat. Sorry about that. Canelo. He beat Canelo, then retired.

[Pat]

How bad he is with NBA.

[Adam]

But my point is, you don't even know these guys names.

[Vinny]

Nothing about sports.

[Adam]

The point is UFC has overtaken boxing and I'll flip it on you. I think Jake Paul is actually making boxing relevant in a relevant sport. And I would love to see heavyweight greats like Tyson and Lennox Lewis and Riddick Bowe be out there doing shows. There used to be the. What's the guy, the Prince Nassim.

[Pat]

Prince Nassim.

[Adam]

He was incredible.

[Pat]

He was a showman and he was.

[Adam]

You know how to fight. Knock your ass out.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

This guy.

[Pat]

Oh, my God.

[Adam]

We need more boxers like that. And the, the, the UFC does a good job of having guys with substance and style. Look at Patty the baddie. Look at some of these guys. The guy who drinks a beer out of the shoe. UFC is the new sport. It is.

[Vinny]

All right, let's go to the last story here.

[Adam]

Do you have any, any, any comments about tape?

[Vinny]

It's great. I think it's great they're doing it. It's entertainment. Getting in the ring is one of the scariest things you can do because all you're thinking about in your mind is, I hope I don't become a poster or a meme or something that goes viral and it gets hundreds of millions of views and everybody's watching your ass get knocked out. There's a reason why it's a scary sport, because it's not only losing. Yeah. But it's humiliation as well. On embarrassment.

[Adam]

It's almost like your mind telling you no.

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Pat]

But your body, your body's telling you yes.

[Vinny]

So this is. This. It is what it is. It is what it is. All right, last story and we'll wrap up. Why dogs love you so much. According to science. And Adam, I'm not going to with this, just letting you know because you know nothing about it. So I'm going to go to a couple of other guys.

[Adam]

Couple dogs. No.

[Vinny]

So, well, what is it? What is it about dogs and their relationship with humans that have been seen they dubbed as man's best friend? From an evolutionary perspective, the human dog bond is one of the most fascinating examples of co evolution we have, says Caroline Wilkinson, certified animal behaviorist and founder of pet coaching service Market Place. We didn't just domesticate dogs, we grew up together. Early wolves who could tolerate humans likely found survival advantages warmed food safety and in turn humans gained hunting partners and protection. Owners may joke about their pets being their fur babies, but according to Wilkinson, that's not far from the truth. Over time, we both develop brain and hormone responses that actually mirror each other. When we look into our dog's eyes, both sides species release oxycon the same bonding hormone shared between mothers and infants. She adds that dogs are so good at reading human nature, human emotion and behavior that each that their own emotion can be impacted by our levels of stress. And that is also why they can be such good predictors of our behavior. We use a Labrador golden retriever cross quite a lot because labs are hardworking and motivated while retrievers are similar but a more laid back. Anyways, this whole story with dogs, man, this last four weeks has been a little bit tough for us because the last four weeks, if you want to pull it up to my best friends, both died within two weeks apart. Jimbo and Cooch are no longer with us. Both of them. That was last week.

[Adam]

What?

[Vinny]

Yeah, he had a stroke and a heart attack. He did. And then the other one had a heart attack. And this is Jimbo. I don't know how many years ago was. If you see the little thing on the paper, that's when we're posting that all over the place because he was missing for 11 days. That guy and a guy took him and we had to find him through ring camera that they posted dogs missing. A guy calls me. Me and Tico Mario show up middle of the night, ready, protected. And this was Jimmon Kucha when they were kids, by the way. Look at that right there. That's down the two dogs. Okay? And then look at Tico. Can you go to Tio's picture with the dog? Tio just loves dogs together anyways, these guys were the best 16 and a half years. Jimbo would always sit right next to me no matter where I was and way better to me than I was to him. And both of them. I even did a video the day I knew was his last day. I made a video with he and I that I will not share. But we have a video of he and I sitting outside and he was at this point blind. Could not here can do nothing. And we took him to the hospital. He stayed there two, two days at the hospital hoping he can make A last shot. After the hospital, I'm at work. I get a call, and Jen says, babe, we're. We're supposed to get on a flight to go to Dallas at a Goldman Sachs event. And I'm telling. I'm like, planes parked outside on everything. I said, you guys got to wait. We went. I said, tio, you take the dog. My dad won't put the dog in his car because he's not a dog guy, but Tio takes the dog. On the way there, he has an aneurysm.

[Pat]

Oh, man.

[Vinny]

Jimbo, does he has an aneurysm. We take him in, and they're like, nope, he's done. And you look at his eyes. He was no longer with us. But anyways, if you own a dog, you know what it's like. These guys were lifechanging. They were so good to us. And to all the dog lovers out there who have dogs. Dogs, man, you know, Give them a hug, man. Give them a kiss. When you see them tonight, they become part of the family. Every night I wake up right now when I go to the bathroom, I'm worried about stepping on a dog. Every night I wake up, we need to go to the bathroom. I'm like, oh. I'm like, no, man. I'm like, oh, shoot, the closet door is open. They're gonna walk in. Nope, they're not there anymore. So anyways, hey, shout out to Jimbo and Cooch if you guys are watching this from heaven, man. All Dogs go to heaven. One of my favorite movies of all time.

[Adam]

You saw that photo?

[Pat]

There's.

[Vinny]

There's. Which one?

[Adam]

This is. I took this photo. We were in your old house.

[Vinny]

I have not seen this one. You just posted this one. I'm like, what is you get this one from?

[Adam]

This was in November of 2020 in your house. It was in Dallas.

[Vinny]

Remember?

[Adam]

That's where you had your pool table. Y. I took that photo. I was like, look at this. They loved you, man. I had no. I had no. No idea about Cooch.

[Vinny]

I'm sorry about that, both of them, but. So the house is very empty with no dogs or an. Yesterday we had Vivi running around, and Brooklyn was on fire.

[Adam]

Anyways, are you going to get a new dog?

[Vinny]

I don't know if I'm ready yet. I don't know if I'm ready yet. I think we will. That's. I love dogs. We're always going to have dogs.

[Adam]

Maybe me and Video just put on some fur run.

[Vinny]

Do me a favor. Let me just say this. Disclaimer guys don't send dogs.

[Pat]

Do not.

[Vinny]

Don't send dogs. I'm being serious because Jen, one day a guy who was a big fan shows up with a pitbull to the house to drop off a gift. And Jen is crying because Brooklyn was just born. She's crying saying, babe, we can't have enough. That's Jimbo on the podcast. He's even been on a podcast.

[Adam]

I just sent him.

[Vinny]

Bird was on a part.

[Adam]

Look at the last thing.

[Vinny]

Oh my God, look at that guy.

[Pat]

Look at him.

[Vinny]

Shimmy boy, look at him. Oh, my man was the best.

[Adam]

It was like a year ago.

[Vinny]

I want to say he's the best. I think even Brandon's on that, you know, his entire life. Oh yeah, he only bit two kids. You know why? For the same reason both two year old boys thought it was a good idea to squeeze his weavitos.

[Pat]

Oh really?

[Adam]

No, that's no goo.

[Vinny]

And he bit both of them. And I said, listen, you don't do it. And one of the dog, one of the boys that he bit, the weitos the bit the hand was, Tico just goes wham.

[Adam]

You got that last picture I sent you?

[Pat]

Well, I respect you too for at least like, you know why? They, they really loved you as much. I mean, because I saw you with them. But they respected you and loved you on a different level. Because you didn't cut off their webocitos.

[Brandon]

No, no, no.

[Pat]

They kept them intact, homie.

[Vinny]

And they sported them, that kind of stuff. Yeah.

[Adam]

Anyways, you remember this dog Pat?

[Vinny]

Let me see this one. That's the one.

[Adam]

Exactly.

[Vinny]

That's the one. By the way, everybody. And by the way, he was the. He. By the way, he bit my arm one time. I was moving so bad. Kobe, Kobe, we were wrestling. So he would come to the office, but Vinnie, he would bite you. Vinnie. There's a video of my entire elbows bleeding because of this guy Maniac. He was the coolest guy to fight, but he wanted to bite you. He would eat real chicken, like not live chicken, but we would go to Costco, buy chicken bones. He would eat the chicken bone, everything. No, you couldn't give him like dog food. No, what are you talking about? I'm a freaking pit bull. Yeah. Anyways, he's somewhere in Texas right now doing his thing as well.

[Adam]

Good for them.

[Vinny]

Guys, we will not be doing a podcast on Wednesday. Okay? So we will be out, but Friday we will be back doing a podcast. Whatever you guys do Christmas, enjoy it. This is my favorite time of the year. Merry Christmas to all of you. Enjoy the time with your family, the moments, the laughter, the jokes, the gifts, the food, all of it. We are grateful for you, wanted to wish you nothing but the very best. And we will see you guys after Christmas. And if you want last minute best wishes to your kids for Christmas, I'm telling you, Manect. Santa Corky, your kids are going to flip out. I was showing a clip of Santa Corky the other day talking to Senna and Dylan, and then you're like, oh my God. Go Manek. Santa Corky on Manek. God bless everybody. We'll do this again in four days. Take care.

[Adam]

Bye bye.

[Vinny]

Bye. Merry Christmas.

[Adam]

Christmas.