"Even Jesus Loved Hoes" - Charleston White STANDS With Diddy, Calls Obama GAY, SLAMS WNBA & Feminism | PBD Podcast | Ep. 618

Summary

Podcast Title: PBD Podcast
Host/Author: PBD Podcast
Episode: "Even Jesus Loved Hoes" - Charleston White STANDS With Diddy, Calls Obama GAY, SLAMS WNBA & Feminism | PBD Podcast | Ep. 618
Release Date: July 18, 2025

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Introduction

In Episode 618 of the PBD Podcast titled "Even Jesus Loved Hoes," host Patrick Bet-David engages in a candid and intense conversation with guest Charleston White. The discussion delves into a plethora of topics ranging from personal struggles and upbringing to contentious political and social views.

Charleston White’s Personal Background and Upbringing

Charleston White begins by sharing his tumultuous childhood, marked by severe accidents and familial challenges. He recounts a life-altering incident at five years old when he fell into a washing machine, resulting in multiple surgeries and prolonged physical immobility.

"[03:44] Charleston White: I broke everything from my waist down. So I was immobile for probably almost two years."

Despite these hardships, White emphasizes his resilience and determination to overcome adversity.

Impact of Media and Society on Youth

White critiques the influence of media and entertainment on young African Americans, arguing that movies like "Colors" and the rise of gangster rap perpetuated destructive behaviors and mindsets within the community.

"[22:01] Charleston White: It was a group of teenagers that became a phenomenon like the Beatles, N.W.A... It was being reinforced either way."

He posits that the glorification of criminal activity and substance abuse in music and films contributed significantly to societal issues such as drug addiction and violence.

Political Views: Critique of Obama and Support for Trump

A substantial portion of the conversation centers around White’s critical views of former President Barack Obama and his support for Donald Trump. White alleges that Obama failed to address the specific needs of the black community, instead prioritizing other groups.

"[46:34] Charleston White: Obama spent eight years giving the homosexual community all of our civil rights. We still need a little bit more."

Contrastingly, White expresses admiration for Trump, arguing that a leader with military experience and physical prowess is more suitable for the presidency.

"[08:56] Charleston White: And have you always been like this?... [10:06] Charleston White: No, no. Mike Tyson, stupid."

Social Issues: Feminism, WNBA, and Planned Parenthood

White delivers strong opinions on feminism, the Women’s National Basketball Association (WNBA), and Planned Parenthood. He contends that modern feminism has fragmented traditional family structures, leading to increased single-parent households and societal instability.

"[30:06] Charleston White: Planned Parenthood is our new Hitler... It should be banned because it serves no purpose and no justice to the community it claims it's serving."

Regarding the WNBA, White criticizes the physical appearance and attire of the players, suggesting that their presentation lacks entertainment value.

"[26:42] Charleston White: Them lesbian chicks, man, them... most WNBA women ugly, they just start getting cute."

Views on Homosexuality and the LGBTQ+ Community

White holds controversial views on homosexuality, linking it to violence and societal decay. He argues that increased rights for the LGBTQ+ community have detracted from the struggles of the black community.

"[48:47] Charleston White: You saw what he [Obama]... I think he could get elected had he had a white woman. That's why Kamala couldn't get elected."

Community and Leadership

Despite his harsh criticisms, White emphasizes the importance of community-focused leadership and personal accountability. He advocates for leaders who can directly contribute to the welfare of their communities rather than relying on political alliances.

"[26:23] Charleston White: So how do you address it at this point? How do you address it now?... It starts in your mirror when you come through washing your face."

Personal Experiences with Violence and Community Work

White shares personal anecdotes about violence he has experienced and his efforts to aid the community through his youth organization. He highlights the systemic failures in supporting black youth and combating violence within the community.

"[94:28] Charleston White: They got to put together this big mafia type conspiracy RICO trial... They let one of our gangster niggas get killed by the police."

Conclusion and Final Thoughts

The episode concludes with White reflecting on his journey from adversity to community activism. He underscores the necessity of addressing internal community issues and fostering genuine leadership to enact meaningful change.

"[105:20] Adam: Let me tell you what I love about you...

"[105:32] Charleston White: Because can't nobody dictate to you about your life. God gave it to you."

Notable Quotes

• "Trump is a weenie." — Charleston White ([00:25])
• "Planned Parenthood is our new Hitler." — Charleston White ([30:06])
• "I minister healing by way of word." — Charleston White ([16:19])
• "Capitalism supersedes racism." — Charleston White ([87:53])

Summary

This episode of the PBD Podcast presents a raw and unfiltered dialogue with Charleston White, whose perspectives spark debate on leadership, societal influences, and community dynamics within the African American population. While White’s viewpoints are contentious and polarizing, they provide a window into the complex interplay between personal experience and broader socio-political narratives.

Transcript

[Charleston White]

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[Charleston White]

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[Adam]

Trump is a weenie.

[Charleston White]

Yeah, Trump. Name three bar fights we know Trump done had.

[Adam]

So you would rather have Mike Tyson as a president than Trump?

[Charleston White]

No, no. Mike Tyson, stupid.

[Adam]

Nobody has a clue what you're gonna say. You're so unpredictable.

[Charleston White]

The Democrats are a very clever slave master. They went and recruited the gays. That's Sergeant Dick Van Dyke. The worst thing we could have done to our military is don't ask, don't tell. Now we asking and you tell us.

[Adam]

You give me the feeling that you watch a lot of wnba. Is that true?

[Charleston White]

Like, are you wnba? Lesbian women are not entertaining. Go get some holes. They can play basketball. They supposed to be playing. What she got on right there. They should have uniforms.

[Adam]

You're saying for them to wear plain lingerie?

[Charleston White]

Yeah. Yeah. In heels. Running up and down them. Click clacking in them heels.

[Adam]

Very strategic. People you'd want to meet. Who would it be?

[Charleston White]

I want to meet the leader. The grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.

[Adam]

Wow.

[Charleston White]

Plan Parenthood is our new Hitler. Our new Nazi group.

[Adam]

Tell me about it.

[Charleston White]

That's exterminating strictly black people.

[Adam]

What do you think about Diddy?

[Charleston White]

He's innocent. I seen that.

[Adam]

She's running.

[Charleston White]

She's stealing his bag. Give me my bag. Where you going?

[Adam]

You're thinking.

[Charleston White]

Can you get on back in here?

[Adam]

You think this is okay?

[Charleston White]

Yeah. In the ghetto. This is normal fighting. And to make up best orgasms in the world, they make songs about it.

[Adam]

30 seconds.

[Charleston White]

Did you ever think you would make it?

[Adam]

Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever saw.

[Charleston White]

It's right here.

[Adam]

You are A one of one my son's right about.

[Charleston White]

I think I've ever said.

[Adam]

Charleston White, how you doing?

[Charleston White]

I'm doing well, sir. How you doing today?

[Adam]

Very good. We're finally doing this, huh? We're sitting down, talking.

[Charleston White]

I think your team and my management been talking probably almost a year to make this happen, so.

[Adam]

Yeah, well, like I told you earlier, when he came in, I said, I wish you knew how many people here consume your content. They love what you have to say. Because I think one of the things that's most interesting about you is anybody can ask you any question and nobody has a clue what you're going to say. You're so unpredictable.

[Charleston White]

I don't. I don't. I don't like to know. I like to be ambushed in interviews.

[Adam]

You like to be ambushed in it?

[Charleston White]

Yeah. I don't like to know what's going to be asked. I like to. I like to be ambushed because I can give you an explanation for everything I've said.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Charleston White]

You may not agree with it.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Charleston White]

But there's a reason behind it.

[Adam]

Right.

[Charleston White]

So I'm just not on here saying things. So I like to be put under pressure.

[Adam]

And have you always been like this?

[Charleston White]

Yes, sir.

[Adam]

Since you were a kid.

[Charleston White]

I fell in the washing machine when I was five years old. I snuck outside.

[Adam]

I fell in the washing machine.

[Charleston White]

I fell in the washing machine when I was 5 years old.

[Adam]

Intentionally or somebody pushed you?

[Charleston White]

I fell in. I was getting ready to jump off, so my mother was upstairs. Sleep. I snuck outside. Me and my cousin, we went to the laundromat. I was jumping up and down on the washer and fell in as the cycle was on spin.

[Adam]

Holy shit.

[Charleston White]

So I broke everything from my waist down. So I was immobile for probably almost two years. Just laying on my back in a body cast at the age of 5 years old. I learned how to walk in a body cast with. With a. A full body cast.

[Adam]

Just at five to seven years old?

[Charleston White]

Yeah. And then I put my eye out at 8. 8 or 9.

[Adam]

How'd you do that?

[Charleston White]

Playing with a homemade slingshot. So I took a pencil, a rubber band, got ready to shoot the rubber band, and the pencil flicked back and poked me out. Oh, well, that's what we did.

[Adam]

And this is where. This is in Fort Worth or.

[Charleston White]

This is in Fort Worth? Yeah. So. So. So I fell in the washing machine at five. Had to learn how to rewalk again. So by eight or nine, I. I done injured my eye. I was a very ambitious kid, adventurous, but in some household, they Might say that's a bad child. He won't sit his butt down nowhere. So these, there's adjectives and traits that a kid gets, but a jacket would get placed on him because he's always in the shitty breaking stuff. So I was that kid that was always in the stuff as well as hurt myself. So they labeled me as being injured prone, always gonna hurt himself. I was just a braveheart jump off a building and that's what boys did.

[Adam]

And is, Are you from a big family? A lot of brother.

[Charleston White]

I'm from a big. Well, I, I, it was just me and my brother, but I got a lot of cousins.

[Adam]

You got a lot of cousins? Are you older brother or younger?

[Charleston White]

I'm the younger. I'm the baby.

[Adam]

You're the, you're the baby?

[Charleston White]

Yeah. I'm the mascot of the family.

[Adam]

You're the mascot of the family. Okay. So. So then what happened? I think at 14 years old, you know, you got in trouble at 14 years old?

[Charleston White]

Yeah, so. So I spent from, from age 8 to 9 I had nine eye surgeries. So I'm like an institutionalized kid except I wasn't institutionalized in prison, I was institutionalized in the hospitals because I was always injured and having surgery. So you got to think I had nine eye surgeries. So I never really got to go to school a whole school year probably up until the sixth, seventh grade. I had a private tutor really up until like the third or fourth grade because I'm always in. So I was directly taught one on one. So that's why at times you may say, oh, he seemed very educational, articulate. Well, I was reading books at a very early age in life.

[Adam]

What were you reading?

[Charleston White]

One of the first book that I can, I can recall reading but don't remember reading it. But I know the information about John Brown. So when I first broke my leg, my mother hired this young, pretty white tutor that used to come tutor me throughout the day. That's where I started having crushes on.

[Adam]

White women from, from this tutor.

[Charleston White]

From tutor.

[Adam]

Yeah. Happen between you and I were five years old.

[Charleston White]

But, but as a kid you have a crush on your teeth.

[Adam]

But not later on. Like later on if you guys.

[Charleston White]

I don't even know who she is to this day. She's a ghost. She's like a ghost. An angel, but a beautiful ghost. Well, she, all I remember is she was very pretty, she was very compassionate, nurturing and kind and so your tutor's.

[Adam]

The reason why you like white girls?

[Charleston White]

Daddy. My daddy.

[Adam]

What your daddy?

[Charleston White]

He had a White woman. Yeah, my daddy had a white woman. And only time that I can ever remember spending a weekend with my dad, she was there, he was going to work. So it was me and her. She was very loving, very kind. So that's all I knew. So when my mother, when we started going into the middle class neighborhoods. My mother worked at General Motors in the early 80s. You know, the blue collar workers, the backbone of America. So the middle class was very vibrant and thriving. So I didn't grow up in a Section 8 community. I grew up in a middle class neighborhood in Fort Worth in the suburb of Fort Worth. I was born in Fort Worth, but I grew up in Arlington.

[Adam]

Oh, okay.

[Charleston White]

Yeah, I'm born in Fort Worth, but I grew up in Arlington.

[Adam]

I used to live in Plano for five years.

[Charleston White]

Okay. So I've never seen violence in the community. I've never seen as a kid. As a kid, I've never seen it.

[Adam]

Wow.

[Charleston White]

Yeah. I've never seen my mother get beat up, jumped. I've never. I've never seen it. I never seen people shoot guns. I only saw it on television.

[Adam]

Unbelievable. So what happened at 14, watching television.

[Charleston White]

Me, me. And so let me just. I had a. I had a little man complex. Small guy, so you gotta think fall in the washing machine. So my legs is real skinny, can't play football. Had to learn how to rewalk again. Mom is overly protective. I might hurt myself again. But I can play football fast and I'm a braveheart. Then I put my eye out. So now that limits me from playing basketball. So now they treat me like a handicap. That's what make me start rebuild, man. I ain't no handicap. Yeah, because my, because in my mind, because I lost my eyes so early. The human body can adjust and adapt, right? A three legged dog can. So I became a three legged dog that can still bark and fight and scrap with the other dog. But I had a secretly inferiority complex, insecure about my eye. So you couldn't ask me what's wrong with your eye? I sock you in your eye to teach everybody else. Don't bother me by my eye. I didn't know how to deal with the insecurity as a kid, right. So a lot of times I would hide by that, hide behind it as an excuse start. Some say. Man, he was talking about my eye.

[Adam]

So you were an instigator?

[Charleston White]

Yeah, I was. Yeah. I was a starter. A very, very much so. But, but with no hate. You always got a kid that's always picked antagonized. I Was antagonistic, like I am on Internet now. So that was a childhood trait. So I was very smart, articulate in school, always did well, but I just couldn't play well with others. I'm a natural born leader. And because I'm small, I have to stand up to big guy who think. Yeah. So the small guy is always the leader out of the group. Napoleon was big guys ain't harder than leader until you go to prison.

[Adam]

Really?

[Charleston White]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Trump is tall. You don't think like, you know, Trump.

[Charleston White]

Trump is a weenie.

[Adam]

Trump is a weenie. Yeah.

[Charleston White]

Trump. Name. Name three ball fights we know Trump didn't have.

[Adam]

Well, no, he. He said in an interview with Logan Paul, he's never been in a fist.

[Charleston White]

That's what I'm talking about. He's a winning.

[Adam]

So you think if you've never been in a fist as a man. Yeah.

[Charleston White]

You don't have no physical strength and ability to defend yourself as a man with no weapons. You got to have some kind of skills. Are you a weenie, really? What if you got a wife and kids and you can't somebody messing with your wife at the restaurant and you ain't got your gun on you and you ain't never been punched in the nose.

[Adam]

I.

[Charleston White]

How you know you can take a punch? Talking shit.

[Adam]

Interesting. So you think. You think if someone's never been punched in the face, they're not qualified to be a president?

[Charleston White]

No. Especially when you got world leaders like Putin. Putin came up in the. In the KGB early days of it. He's worked his way up through the ranks and it's documented he have killed people. Trump ain't never killed nobody. We need leaders, the generals of the army and military man to match our world leader. That's why I don't know about respect our leader. These are politician men that could play football. Wasn't high school jocks. That was nerds and barking like they men to the world. They weenies. You don't have no hand toand comeback skills as a man, but you want to stand before all these other men who are trained mism artists from Kim on Jones, man, they'll kick our ass.

[Adam]

So you would rather have Mike Tyson as a president? Trump?

[Charleston White]

No shit. No. Mike Tyson, stupid. Yeah, yeah. No, I mean Mike Tyson, man. Mike Tyson, stupid. You've been hitting the head too many times. So I grew up in the boy's home. In the boy's home. I spent 14 to 21. I think throughout those seven years, I probably had 20 fights. 20 fights. Before then I was the kid who my cousin say, wait till my little cousin come over here. I'm gonna get him on you. So they bring me over there because I was a Braveheart as a kid. Size really don't matter if you're brave. So you don't have the rationale to be afraid when you're brave.

[Adam]

That's true. As a kid, I agree fully.

[Charleston White]

So I was a Braveheart. How I got in trouble is trying to wanting to fit in with the older guys. My mom's at work. When I get out of school, my mom's going to work. She worked at General Motors. She worked at night shift.

[Adam]

Got it.

[Charleston White]

She got dinner on the stove. She giving us instructions. Leave your homework out, wash them dishes. Don't go outside, don't answer the door for nobody. I'm going to call at these time, make sure y' all answer them call. And so when she got home and we didn't do that, she'll wake us up at our sleep. I thought I told y'. All. So she tried to be a disciplinary, but she was a single mother who had to go to work. When she went to work, we outside.

[Adam]

Got it.

[Charleston White]

With no parental supervision.

[Adam]

In Arlington.

[Charleston White]

In Arlington.

[Adam]

So who were the older guys you hung out with that taught you something?

[Charleston White]

My older cousins, my. My brother's friends. And then once I started gravitating in middle school because of the culture. So we went from wearing MC Hammer pants.

[Adam]

Yep.

[Charleston White]

The baggy MC Hammer with the Giorgio Bertini shoe with the gold tips on them. We went from doing that to abrupt from wearing polka dot shirts, silk shirts, pumps in a bunch, bikini, draws, like to Dickies and killers. Now we abruptly did that.

[Adam]

I remember Dickies. I remember Dickies Cortez. The.

[Charleston White]

There you go.

[Adam]

That's.

[Charleston White]

That's, that's. So I remember seventh grade, I had the elite shoes with the, with the fur around them, the Jabot jeans. Summer, summer of I think 1989, when colors came out and we got introduced.

[Adam]

To a great movie.

[Charleston White]

Man, what a great movie. Alleged when we got introduced to that, it sold a seed throughout America. Just like Minister Society, Boys in the Hood, Scarface, the Birth of a New Nation. Movies like that. Yeah. So that was one of those kind of movies and children shouldn't have watched it.

[Adam]

Colors.

[Charleston White]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Interesting. So you're saying those movies brought bad habits to good neighborhoods.

[Charleston White]

The Birth of a New Nation did. That's where the plan form got it and got even stronger after that movie.

[Adam]

So. So. So are you hanging out with troublemakers in Arlington or are you Watching, you.

[Charleston White]

Know, I've never seen. So I'm in a suburb. So you gotta think at five years old, I'm in a hospital learning how to rewalk again. I'm getting a private tutorial. So I'm not, I'm not outside playing.

[Adam]

Right? Right.

[Charleston White]

I'm physically disabled.

[Adam]

Right.

[Charleston White]

Soon as I get ready to play, boom, I put my eye out. So at nine years, eight, Nine years. So from five to eight, yeah, I got a little three year time span. But two of those years I'm learning how to re walk again. So one year I finally get to play with kids as a regular kid. Boom. Put my eye out. Nine eye surgery from the age eight to 12. So I get my eye took out like fifth grade. I got the prosthetic lens put in in sixth grade. But my first part of my sixth grade year I had a patch on. They go to inferiority complex.

[Adam]

Yeah. So what were people, people calling you? Because kids can be proven.

[Charleston White]

No, no, no, no. I don't heard nothing because I'm gonna hit the first person in their mouth. All you have to do is make an example out of one person before many people. The police do it. Your slave masters do it. The job do it. All you gotta do is make example out of one before many. And word travels. Nothing spreads like word of mouth. Many hit him in his eye, man. So. So who wants to mess with a person that don't talk? And pow. So that was my defense mechanism. And I knew I could get out, I could get away with it because he was talking about my aunt, mama. That's all I had to say. So I had a. I had a cop out. I learned how to use a cop out at an early age in life.

[Adam]

Do you think that's a common pattern or did you, did you. How did you learn it? Did somebody teach you? Or do you think you just had it?

[Charleston White]

Resiliency and wherewithal from feeling what you're feeling?

[Adam]

Did your brother also have it or you had it more than he did?

[Charleston White]

What's that?

[Adam]

The ability to manipulate and feel like a victim.

[Charleston White]

My brother got caught for everything.

[Adam]

He got caught with everything.

[Charleston White]

He got caught for doing wrong. I was a very charismatic child. So charisma go a long way even when you're lying.

[Adam]

What month's your birthday?

[Charleston White]

May 17, 1977.

[Adam]

Interesting.

[Charleston White]

So I'm a borderline Gemini. Full blooded Taurus. But I was an honest kid. So if you press me too much, I will come out and tell the truth. Even to this day, if my woman said, did you do it. Did you do it? If I happen to keep lie, I feel like a coward. Yeah, I did it. Fuck it. Yeah, I did it. She can get out of if you keep pressing me.

[Adam]

Got it.

[Charleston White]

Cowards lie.

[Adam]

Does she get it out of you quite often?

[Charleston White]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm a very honest. I'm a brutally honest man. Do you love her? How she handles her? Yeah, I love her. You tell her? Yeah, if I love my other woman. Yeah, I love my other woman, baby. You think I look fat in it? You know you look fat in the baby. That's why you asking me. See why you ask? Why you? Yeah, why you putting this pressure on me? You know you look fat and that's why you asking. So some people, some people can handle the truth. It's the ugly truth that they can't handle. Say, what's up everybody? It's your boy, Charleston White, AKA America's favorite uncle. I just signed up to manit. So if you want to message me, you want to cuss me out, you want to fuss at me, even if you want some counseling, call me. I minister healing by way of word. You can message me directly on the net. I promise, man, I'm gonna respond directly. I ignore them. DMs on Instagram, they just took my Facebook. I don't respond on YouTube. I will respond on my. I promise. Just call me and see. Text me.

[Adam]

Okay, so we're gonna get back to this. At 14 years old, I read that you were hunging out. Hung out with some people who there was attempt on murder, convicted. What? What happened?

[Charleston White]

No, no. So. So my, my mother, my uncle had just died, who was a positive influence in our life. He was. He died to gun violence. My mother had just became pregnant and my little sister was born. My brother was already in and out of the juvenile facilities and my mother was putting my brother in adolescence home. So my mama wasn't waiting for him to be arrested. When she started seeing behavior problems, she would put him in adolescent home. That made him even more rebellious. And he big, he tall and big. He got a grown man body. So mama gotta work and she. We got the best life most kids could have in the middle class neighborhood. So I'm the little brother sitting back watching who everybody's overlooking because of my injuries. They don't know I'm a mother, they don't know I'm a dynamite. Only my uncles know who let me hang out with them. So man, once I, once I got to become a kid, I was 13 years old. I've been in a hospital, man, from 5 to 13. So once I started playing with kids, I was a natural leader, and I attracted good and bad children. My real friends didn't get in trouble. The ones I went to hang with didn't live in our neighborhood. They lived in the projects, in apartments. So, man, when I got introduced to what I call I'm the seed of America's gangster rap culture, a little kid who'd been watching Bill Cosby, Redd Fox, Fred Sanford. When my uncles get out of prison, I watch all the black exploitation films from Dolomite, Superfly, the all penitentiary. So I learned criminal activity from watching these movies, watching my uncles and. And. And once I finally got to go out into the community, imagery have already been propagated to me. Kid watching television. Kid watch. So, man. So I'm mimicking what I'm seeing. So I've never seen a man come out my mother's bedroom. I've also never seen a man get up and go to work.

[Adam]

You've never seen a man come out of your mama's bedroom. You've never seen a man go to.

[Charleston White]

Go to work? Yeah. I didn't know men work. I thought men were like my Uncle Curtis, my Uncle Wayne, you know, they pimp on a woman or they lay around all day or earn their clothes in the middle of day, wake up late with a joint in their mouth, fly clean and go nowhere. You know, the unproductive black male of the 80s. So that's what I saw. So I watched all the males in my family go to prison for my mom's cousins, mama, uncles, grandmother's brothers. And I never heard anybody say anything bad about prison. So think about this. I never hear anybody say anything bad about prison. They come home and make it sound bravado, like you missing out on something, as if it write the passage. Not only that, you're seeing it on television. So it's being reinforced either way. So we had a whole black exploitation era. So by the time. So I'm. I'm an injured kid who get to watch all the television in the world. In the hospital, at home, we had a vc. Yeah. So by the time I get to be a normal kid that can go outside and play, it's a new culture, gang culture, and it's trending. I remember we seen colors our first summer. We went and got bandanas and put them in our pocket. I went and got me a pocket knife. I don't know nothing about this, but what I saw on television, I didn't know how to have Sex from listening to rap music. And this is in the fifth and sixth grade. There was a song by 2 Live Crew called hey, we want something. Yeah. So imagine stopping it, rewinding it. Stopping it so you can get every lyric. So our culture taught us, and I say this often, and people really overlook it. It's a rape culture.

[Adam]

Rape culture.

[Charleston White]

Yeah. Hip hop is a rape culture.

[Adam]

Tell me about it.

[Charleston White]

I put a Molly in a drink and she ain't even know it Me and my homies like to play this game Some call it Amtrak but some call it the train we all will line up in a single file line and take our turns we waxing girls behinds Every time it get to me I was out of luck because I stick my in and it would get stuck. The girl will say stop, I say I'm not the girl will say stop, I say I'm not But we dance to it. There's another song. I take her back to the trap I gave, I gave the perk and she ain't even know it Then she dropped the panties. So when we watched the frat parties. What was that? Porky's Revenge. Hey, let's spike the punch. The girls don't know the spike the sponge. When we see a bunch of girls. Hey, baby, let me get you a drink. Come over, let's have some drink. Drink to do what? And have sex. That's coercion. You can't. She has to have a sober mind. So that's our culture.

[Adam]

How did it happen?

[Charleston White]

Hollywood entertainment. They, they, they.

[Adam]

Because it doesn't. Didn't they romanticize?

[Charleston White]

Now they romanticize it.

[Adam]

When you see the videos of back in the days, African American families, suits, the way they dressed, Clean, solid, strong. What. What got into that? You're saying purely as hip hop and movies.

[Charleston White]

A group of teenagers that became a phenomenon like the Beatles, N.W.A. not only that, you got this group that know things about crack that the rest of America don't know. They the first crack babies. They the ones told us in songs. Mothers smoke crack and your friends can have sex with them. Boys in the hood is always hard. We didn't know about a strawberry. Hell is a strawberry. A woman who sell her body for crack. You know how many of our angels that end up doing that? You know how many guys that was in middle school that sold dope and his best friend mom was on dope and he end up effing his best friend mom. And now they hate each other to this day. So. So it. So it wasn't just. It wasn't just hip hop, it was the lyrical content that. That children was, was being able to have access to. This is before the parental advisory stickers. Not only that, you got this music which if you, if you wanna, if you wanna check the temperature of your youth's mentality, listen to the music. So now you got this new chemical that was made in a laboratory. Black people didn't know how to cook crack. That's, that's a, that's a chemist method. Somebody had to teach them, by the way government talked somebody how to do this when we watched the movie Snowfall. So when they came out of California to come spread crack throughout America, who. They bring the gangs throughout the south, these little small country towns who. People are fascinated by California from what we've seen on television. And we, we emulated a culture that, that was more destructive than, than the Ku Klux Klan in the Jim Crow system.

[Adam]

Wow. And you're saying it was intentional?

[Charleston White]

Nobody thought it would become this. It was dismissed. There's a bunch of kids from the ghetto rapping. It was dismissed. No. No one could predict what crack was going to do to black America. Nobody, nobody could have predicted it.

[Adam]

What do you think about Rick Ross, the og? Not. Not the rapper. I'm talking about the real.

[Charleston White]

He was, he was an illiterate man who the government used as a pawn.

[Adam]

I had him on a podcast. We talked about it.

[Charleston White]

He's very, he's, you know, he's very educated. Now. I like the tenacity that you have to have as an illiterate man. But, you know, he, he's a front. These are poor children who don't know if I, I get this. Cause it's where we get this from. How do I know if I sell this? This can put me away from life and I'm not hurting nobody. I'm going to feed my family. The people coming to buy it. How. What. What black man knew when they was touching dope that this could put me away forever. They didn't even know what it would do. They didn't know what to do. So a lot of it was out of survival. Some of it was out of greed. But most of most people started selling drugs out of nature's first rule of self preservation.

[Adam]

Yeah. When I had him, he was one of the biggest drug lords, by the way. He was making real money. I mean, he was an og OG Making a lot of money. And the way he got caught was very interesting and how it got big. But I just pulled up a number. Right now, Black Americans are 13% of population, yet they account for 37% of crack users.

[Charleston White]

It was given directly to them. Cocaine was a rich person drug. Crack is the only drug. You say hey man, I got $2 and you get you a $2 hit. No other drug you can do that. The weed man, don't do it. The liquor man, don't do it. Crack was the only. The heroin guy don't do it. Crack was the only drug. You can come with a bunch of quarters. Say man, I got a dollar fifty. It wasn't a, it's not a extensive, it's not a long term high like acid or molly. It's a short high. But, but the, the dopamine that it feeds it, what makes it so dangerous?

[Adam]

How do you address it at this point? How do you address it now?

[Charleston White]

Look, if just like, just like the first, the guys who created AA and na, you don't change that method. That method have always worked and still work today. You can't change nothing if the person don't want to change.

[Adam]

Can you reverse the effects of it today?

[Charleston White]

Well, yes.

[Adam]

How would you do it?

[Charleston White]

Well, yes and no. Because it's just like the pandemic virus was real big and they pushed it on, they pushed us on. Well what. Since 90 to 97, all you heard about was crack babies. All they showed us what crack does to a baby. Where are they now? The crack babies don't grew up and had babies. Where they babies at, what they babies doing? They're the violent ones that we see today. That's 10, 11, 12 years old. These are the violent. These are the kids we are afraid of right now. Them crack baby kids. Then if you want to put that on black America psychotropic drugs is white people been getting their white kids ADHD medication. So and then this is a group of children who are human detached from humanity because they're in a metaverse world. So they don't have the same compassion, the care concern that regular humans should have. Because we have human attachments. They don't go outside to play. Most households when I get my plate, I go over there. You go over there bombing her. We don't eat together. So there's real no attachment. How are we gonna reverse that? And we don't even have connection with our own children. We can't connect with the youth. Now we too busy fighting over Democrat and Republican. And we're losing our children not just by violence, by opioids, suicides. So how, how do you reverse? Start in the mirror. It starts in your mirror when you Come through washing your face coming out the bathroom. You look around in your household and see if the bed is made up before you say something to your spouse. Then once you kind of pick up what you can pick up, then you start directing to your woman and your kids. Then you come outside. Hey, how you doing, neighbor? But most people want to start in the world, in the community in my city. Now start in your home. From the mirror I got you. Yeah. That's how you fix your community. That's how you fix the world. Fix what you see in the mirror. Come out, look around the house, Fix what needs to be repaired in the house. Go outside and be neighborly. Hey, what's going on, neighbor?

[Adam]

You know that one friend who somehow.

[Charleston White]

Knows everything about money? Yeah.

[Adam]

Now imagine they live in your phone. Say hey to Experian, your big financial friend.

[Charleston White]

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[Adam]

Very interesting perspective. What's your opinion on Planned Parenthood?

[Charleston White]

Planned Parenthood is our new Hitler. I knew Nazi group that's exterminating strictly black people. Because the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, said this is solely to eradicate eugenics, to eradicate black babies. Why? We still got it hanging around. It does nothing but abort babies. Most women who need prenatal care don't go there. Most black women don't even get prenatal care. They don't even know they pregnant to four months in, still high on drugs they were partying off of. So now Planned Parenthood should be. It should be banned. I was going to say some flammatory. But now it should be banned because it serves no purpose and no justice to the community it claims it's serving.

[Adam]

Why do you think it's gone as big as it's gotten who's supporting it, who's. Because the way it's sold, it's sold in a way that, you know, women's rights, it's good for women. And they have a pro choice, man.

[Charleston White]

You know how many. You know how much stem cells they get to collect? Man? Yeah, yeah, they. They get the whole new forms of life from these aborted embryos and fetuses. They get to do tests like lab rats on humans with no oversight. We don't know what they do with those bodies, those babies. So there's no oversight, really. They could just do what they want to do. But the originator, Margaret Sanger, this was never set up to be something good. So how can you change anything's original design? If you can't go back and change the design, why abort the babies? Why not try to find the daddy? Y' all come together, get him some resources to breathe life and keep life instead of take life. Why kill the baby? If I get mad at my dog, I can't shoot him. I can't feed him, but I can go kill my baby. You'll put me in jail if I can't feed my dog no more? Kill him, abandon him. And she can go kill the baby without the father's consent. She didn't make the baby by herself. So our government get this woman and this organization to kill a man's baby without his permission. How can you do that? In what world is that all right? She gonna do it behind my back. I ain't got. Man, what if I want to keep this life? What if we killing the next president? You don't know what we taking away from the world. When you do that.

[Adam]

Half the population disagrees with you. Why do you think that is?

[Charleston White]

Half the population disagrees with me? Because we live in a society in era where this group of Americans look at right and say, right is wrong. And look at wrong and say, wrong is right. I don't know how much longer we can go on because we've never been that kind of country. Even when we got here with the forefathers, they fought over slavery. They just, hey, yeah, we go now. They really fought over it. They spent days and months and years trying to put a fork. Nah. And it was people saying, oh, man, we know this ain't right, man. It's a necessary evil. Everybody's been slave, but, man, they fought against that. Ain't just America just didn't dive in and say, okay, that's what we want to do. They really fought against that Locked themselves in room like they do now. Right now they fighting over bullshit, man. Them people, they fought over that. If you really know history.

[Adam]

So you're saying this is something worth fighting for. And.

[Charleston White]

The rights that we have, the rights that we had and we knew as children, our children would never know. So I think it's worth fighting so they can know what a summer of 1985 and 87 were like when you didn't have to worry about kids getting killed by gun. Violence never cross nobody's mind, man. We could walk to the mall, go here and we never had a pervert kidnapping nobody. All the perverts was in the family. Wasn't strangers. We looking for strangers. But it's your cousins, it's your uncle them, them the people that's doing it. But we looking for strangers. So man, our kids don't know what it's like to be free and have real freedom because they, they exist in a metaverse world to have community guidelines that don't allow them to have free speech. So what outlet do our children have that we have where they can have freedom of expression? Can't. Everybody's offended. So yeah, these, these children are in the box. Like, you know, I actually read the book inside a movie. The movie V for Vendetta. That's where we're at in America right now. We just had got to the end of the movie.

[Adam]

How do you think this thing ends?

[Charleston White]

Good wins, evil loses. Yeah, yeah. Love conquer hates. And then another civilization start over again. Because this group cannot go on another hundred years. Everybody's too hateful. Everybody's too hateful. It ain't just white people black. Everybody hate. Everybody don't like no. So only thing ain't hating is the things in nature. So no, no, I think love conquer all. There'll be a small group of Americans who really love American and love humans and can appreciate life after all the destruction and disasters they done seen done upon earth based on mankind. And they go live nature free people like Tarz in who's evil Today?

[Adam]

If you were to say evil. Where's evil coming from?

[Charleston White]

The Bible says and. And I'm just saying what's been quoted. Evil exists in high places. High places and high principalities. Evil don't exist to more poor people. But some of the most evil things appear to happen down off in poverty. No, that ain't evil. Those are conditions and circumstances that have been created. Not by your choice. Evil exists at the top. Evil gets to decide which military drop bombs. That's evil. The destruction and Disaster that these men can cause and they never touch a battlefield. That's evil. They're sending other people children. That's evil. If they had to send their. They'd think about going to war. If they had to put on a uniform like General George Washington did, get on the goddamn horse and fight with these soldiers. Trump all them. They'll stop wars now. Putin might. Putin is the only one capable and has this war with all to be a soldier. That's why I respect him and I love him. So when I heard Trump and all these other weak politicians talking to a real killer like this. This man will kill people. Y' all ain't never killed. I've been killing Durham, and he killed callously, cold, hard. Them the leaders. We need killers for the. For the nation. You got killer military. Your generals are killers. You train children to kill. Why can I, commander in chief of our military, be a killer? We need killers running as commander in chief. Let the president be vice president, but let a commander in chief be a military motherfucker to run this country and lead this country.

[Adam]

This is how it was for a long time.

[Charleston White]

I know history, and it was great America. Great America.

[Adam]

Meaning when I say how it was, Commander in chief was somebody that was in the military. Commander in chief.

[Charleston White]

I thought that's what they meant.

[Adam]

Yeah. Interesting. So you're saying you would prefer a leader at the top.

[Charleston White]

The sniper, over Iraq? I would prefer him. A person like him that went over there and fought for this country, killed for this country, lost buddies that died for this country, and come over here and tell us what's best for this country.

[Adam]

You'd rather have that sniper be the president than who we have today?

[Charleston White]

Yeah. Yeah. Because he can't lead by himself. He has advisors. He has a cabinet. So he has. But, yeah, you need a soldier in the White House. You don't need a politician. Let your politician stay in Congress. But your president's supposed to be a soldier. You see what that African president is doing over there? Young brother, that's the kind of. He's a. He's a soldier. He's the commander in chief. Why do you got a Wall street boy up there with a wig on? You need a lieutenant or a captain with a ball spotting his head. Don't give a damn about a toupee, but he died for this country because he done served it. He done put years in it. He done trained and raised this his country, the state country, man. Our military probably be our presidents and politicians and shit, man, they gonna fight, lose legs and Limbs and come over here and suffer without a voice for politicians to dictate to them? And they're gonna die, man. No. Should nobody be able to dict to a soldier who don't put his life down on the line? And everybody should handle them with care.

[Adam]

So you prefer Putin over who we have here?

[Charleston White]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Tell me what you like about Putin.

[Charleston White]

Oh, I like Putin because everybody ain't in Russia. I like Kim on Jones because everybody ain't in North Korea. North Korea is about North Korea. Russia is about Russia. America is not about America. America's about what other people interest. That's why we send money over there. That's why they can come over here and get loans that the average American citizen can't get, get credit loans. They can come over here and get rights that your blacks have never gotten. They got an Asian hate bill. How that happened for your black people got them some kind of bill that protects them because they're the number one people who die of gun violence. I receive some kind of protection around black people because they are dying at a rate almost like the pandemic.

[Adam]

What's the top cause of black Stein?

[Charleston White]

Poverty, single parent homes and the culture. So I wouldn't say the culture. We have a subculture that has superseded our culture. It's a subculture that have superseded the original culture of black people.

[Adam]

Tell me more.

[Charleston White]

Black people have always pursued education to get out. It was never about sports. So now you got a sports guy who can have an ability to get his education, but he'll leave soon just to go get the money and be broke five years after he leave. Statistically wise, without the education, guess what? He ended up in prison. The single parent motherhood is the number one tool in detriment against the black community. It's not the absent father. The absent father is not around. How can he have an impact? His absence does, but he's more impacted what he see his mother does and what man she brings in and out the life, how she treats him. So most guys who've been mistreated by their mother grew up to mistreat women. They don't grow up. They fight men. That's the issue they got with dad, but it's a lot of guys got issues with dad and mother because they had a neglectful mother. So he extremely violent. In. In. There's no boy Scouts program. There's no. There's no early childhood training to teach emotional intelligence. Mama frustrated. So what typically does a single mother does when everything is going good and going great? She don't spank the kids as much. Let a new man come into a life. She's a lot more loving and kind of let things go bad. She's more frustrated, she's angry, you know, so. So now you get the emotional response. So now she whooping you because how she feel not off teaching you discipline and correction. That's about how. So she's taking it out on the kids. So most guys were abused. Most guys. When we see these violent people and I've worked on many cases, murder cases, assisting criminal defense, mitigation specialists, what I come to find out, most of these violent guys have been sexually abused. Cry gangster. You think he is? Yeah, most. Mostly that's. That's where the violence come from. They're hiding behind extreme violence and aggression. But if he don't get the death pen and they trying to kill him, he won't ever admit to it. So when you start learning mitigating factors about certain cases, you start to see a. A parallel and a correlation to sexual abuse, a physical abuse, child neglect and a mother. The mother, the mother created Jeffrey Dahmer. It wasn't a father. The mothers create these cold hearted callous seem to be children that's coming out of the community. The mother creates that. She gives him the anger. Matter of fact, she gives him the fuel for the abandonment to turn into anger. Because he never heard nothing good about a black man when he turned on television. Black man, they've been killed. He watched a Tyler Perry movie. Fucked up black man everything. So he a little boy trying to reflect. So he get his weight up with his hate and he pay everybody back when he's bigger.

[Adam]

Charleston, how did the single mother happen? Like if you look back and say, well, it happened after this.

[Charleston White]

White feminism, White lesbian bitches. Sorry to call y', all, but you get the picture. Yeah, yeah. They came and up America's, they up the ecosystem. They said it's plenty of fish in the sea. It ain't no more since feminism. Now you got women want to play quarterback against Tom Brady. Ain't never been the case, man. I watch. I grew up watching Leave it to Beaver. His mama in the house. Now you got high divorce rates from extramarital favorite because you have men and women all in the workplace together. Who more than co workers, high school people and co workers. You got a woman at home. Every woman got a work boyfriend. She might not be sleeping with him, but they have an emotional attachment. They go out together. She say that's her friend, but they secretly like it. That's A work boyfriend because she never get to see his flaws. She see him dressed up every day, smell good. So this is her ideal man. In her mind, she got Internet boyfriend, somebody. She like his pictures all the time. A person, he listens. She listened to. We watching ass and titties. She want to hear something to validate her. Most of us are too busy to validate her emotions. It's not a man's job to validate your emotion. Look in the mirror and validate them yourself so you can come out and be what I need you to be. So the single parent, mother home came from feminism. I don't need no man. You got a deal though. Even the one, Even when y' all get together, y' all can't have the best pleasure without that man's log.

[Adam]

That man's log is very powerful.

[Charleston White]

So. So our women separated from us, they got rights in Woman Suffrage, 1920. They demanded. They demanded to be by themselves. Fought for it, fought for it, fought for it. Yeah. Now they said they can't find a good man.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Charleston White]

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[Adam]

Okay, so politically you got Trump, you got Obama. What do you think about Obama? How much did Obama do for the black community?

[Charleston White]

Nothing.

[Adam]

You don't think he did a lot of good for the black community?

[Charleston White]

He didn't do nothing.

[Adam]

He didn't change your life positively like he changed. But he's black.

[Charleston White]

He spent eight years. He spent eight years giving the homosexual community all of our civil rights. We still need a little bit more. So the so doctor King them fight wasn't for integration. It wasn't really to take the Jim Crow size down. The initial fight, and it lasted for a while. The initial fight was equal rights and equal protection under the law. The Asians now have equal rights and equal protection because they have an Asian hate bill. You can't do nothing to Asian. The Jews very well protected black Americans. Not so. So when I look at Obama, he had an opportunity, but he wasn't raised with a black American. So he don't connect with us. He don't relate to us because he's not a black American. He come from an African man who had a baby with a white woman overseas and raised by his white his white racist granddaddy and his loving white grandmama. He grew up at school dating white women. Like who you date your mama Michelle was a political move for him.

[Adam]

You think so?

[Charleston White]

He would never got elected had he had a white woman. That's why Kamala couldn't get elected. Ain't nobody voted for no black woman with no white man coming from our culture. Each with their own kind if you want to lead us. Each with their own kind. White America would never pick a white. Why you think that boy got kicked out of England with that black woman? You gonna come bring this to our bloodline? Nah, nah, man. That's why mom and them say you don't go over, have no baby with them people. You stay over here. Red birds and bluebirds don't fly together, but they both birds, each with their own kind. You can't be mad about that. So Obama could not relate to the black American struggle coming from the N I G G E R slave. He's not a seed of a slave. So why would he cry with us? He wouldn't cry with his people. Homosexuals, those are speaking his people. Man.

[Adam]

Stop.

[Charleston White]

You saw what he. Man, listen.

[Adam]

You think?

[Charleston White]

Yeah, he gave them the world. Give him his people. How you recognize your kind? Body actions. Homosexual got actions. That's how you know they homosexuals. He with his kind.

[Adam]

You're saying Barack Obama's gay?

[Charleston White]

I'm speculating based on his mannerism. He wasn't tough enough in the White House. George Bush was tough. Andrew Jackson was tough. Joy. Every motherfucking body was tough except him. Get along, go along kind of man. We don't need no president to get along and go along. We damn near need a dictator. So nah man, I'm Trump all day. Because America needed something that it had never had. They needed somebody that wasn't a politician. Couldn't get a soldier. We got a con man. Got a minute, man, don't play all kind of role. He done been in every role. He done been in every face of every ethnicity in every culture from what, the 60s to now, from being on Apprentice to dibbling and dabbling with all the hip hops. Don King, Mike Tyson, Michael. So, man, this man is a black icon.

[Adam]

Us. Oh, you're calling not a con man. What do you call a chameleon?

[Charleston White]

Let me just break this down. A con man is not a crook. A con man is a short term for a confidence man.

[Adam]

Ah, I got what you're saying. Okay.

[Charleston White]

Yeah, they just.

[Adam]

A confidence man, even though he's never been in a fight before, you're okay with that? He's still your president.

[Charleston White]

Well, one time I got asked could I level a house because I'm a confident man. See how. Yeah, I can level that house. Took me all summer to do it. Could I do it? No. Didn't know it was the damn hard. Underpriced myself. But I'm a confidence man, so I believe I can do anything, man, if you mess with me, I believe I can whoop John Cena. Physically, probably not. But you can't tell this little mind. I can't. As impossible as it seems, I think I can. I think, man, that's what I tell myself in any situation.

[Adam]

Who fed this to you as a kid? Were you ever in sales? Were you ever like.

[Charleston White]

No, the books. The Little Red Caboose. Which books?

[Adam]

Which.

[Charleston White]

The Little Red Caboose about the train.

[Adam]

That's it.

[Charleston White]

All the stories that they tell you as a kid. So, man, I had toys, but I read books because it was a form of traveling as a kid.

[Adam]

This book.

[Charleston White]

Yeah, I think I can, I think I can. I think I've been a little red caboose. So they tell you things as kids. So they tell you things as kids that trick you. Sticks and stone may break my bone, but. But words will never hurt me. I. I make myself believe that.

[Adam]

Affirmations, man.

[Charleston White]

So. So you. So you hear sayings and forklors and things that you hold on throughout life from wise people. Yeah, there's many stories that children can get out of these kind of books, but now they got gay stuffs in books. So kids can't get this kind of inspiration and motivation when they feel like a little bit of red caboose.

[Adam]

Did you see the video that's they posted on World Star? 2 gay couple girls are at Barnes and Noble and they see the books they have for kids. Have you seen this? Yeah, the gbc.

[Charleston White]

That's why I Brought it up.

[Adam]

You ever at the gbc?

[Charleston White]

I've never. Yeah, so. So I was a kid when the book fair came to school. This was like birthday day for me. My mama go give me $10 12 and some lunch money. I'm gonna bypass lunch. They'll get all the men. So I was an avid book reader as a kid because in school, back in my day, if you couldn't turn a black a backflip in recess, if you couldn't play sports at a, you know, be athletic inclined, you had to be smart or you or you. You ain't nothing in the popular crowd. So. Yeah, so my intelligence have always been a tool for me to use to connect with other people.

[Adam]

Good for you. I mean, that mindset of yours, that's. That's. It's a unique mindset, and it's good to see that. Rob, if you can go to Worldstar's Instagram account, I just want to show this, because I wonder what he thinks about it when you see this. If you go on the World Star, there's a couple, literally, at Barnes and Noble. And then while they're there, they see all the gay books for kids right here. Now, go ahead, play this clip. I think Charleston's going to like it. Ken, here, Barnes and Nobles.

[Charleston White]

And there's a kids book section, a gay kids book section. And this is crazy.

[Adam]

Look at this.

[Charleston White]

Okay, there's the gay bcs, right?

[Adam]

Bye bye binary for kids.

[Charleston White]

Bye bye binary with a mohawk on a baby GBC's. You're not ready.

[Adam]

You hold us.

[Charleston White]

Okay, What? A is for arrow and ace B is for by. This is crazy. We're gay, but this is crazy. Indoctrination.

[Adam]

Pause right there, buddy.

[Charleston White]

Indoctrination starts in the classroom. School is not at school. Your children are being indoctrinated. Education is in the home. Your children are not being educated. They're being programmed and propagated by this. Thanks to Barack Obama and Joe Biden. One of the first things that Joe Biden did was when he became president is he took a transgender male and put them over our human and health department is wrong with him, Man, I don't bash nobody.

[Adam]

You don't think that's normal? Like, this person looks normal? You don't think Rachel Levine looks like a normal person?

[Charleston White]

That look like Sergeant Dick Van Dyke. That's Sergeant Dick Van Dyke. You can't make me believe that ain't that. You can't make me believe that ain't no real Serge, man. That's a weenie.

[Adam]

You think man, some find that attractive.

[Charleston White]

Say, listen, that's why Ukraine need help. That's why Ukraine need help. They elected a actor fighting against a real warrior. That ain't no man. Ain't no worry. They've been sucking on the Navy boat.

[Adam]

You think Rachel's been sucking on the nigga?

[Charleston White]

You know, if she dressed like that shield. You don't get like that without sucking, rubbing fur together. Yeah, yeah, that's me. And now man out. Listen, the worst thing we could have done to our military is don't ask, don't tell. Now we asking and you tell us. Cause we don't need y' all out on that battlefield. We need y' all first sexually frustrated after blowing up shit. We don't need y' all nuts on flat each other. So no, you don't get into this military. Get a gay military to work with the National Guard passing out food and water bag. But them overseas should not be gay. The Russian military ain't gay. China military ain't gay. Man, we got some on our hands to fight. We don't need that. That should be a home at teacher. Put home EC back in schools and let them teach home ec. As a man.

[Adam]

I don't know if that's a good idea.

[Charleston White]

As a man, though. Call him Mr. Levine. Or say him.

[Adam]

He wants you to call him her man.

[Charleston White]

My mama told me, she said the devil is the master of deception. The devil is the master of deception. What's more deceiving than that? A man look like a woman, acting like a woman, but is naturally a man, still a man in nature? What's more deceptive than that in the devil?

[Adam]

Like, you don't find this attractive because this was a big hit.

[Charleston White]

Say we used to kick they ass in school, but they gay bash you now. You can't get. You came gay bashing. Word. See, this is what's wrong with America. It should be. Bullying should be allowed. That's what made America tough. You taught this kid how to go outside and defeat his bully. Now he's running a CEO.

[Adam]

You don't think he's been bullied?

[Charleston White]

I say he.

[Adam]

I mean, this is. Is this guy. Is this. What is this? Run.

[Charleston White]

Listen, it ain't no gay person who hadn't been sexually violated that had to turn gay.

[Adam]

Is this the guy from the movie Coneheads from back in the days? Or is this. No, no, I'm being serious. Is this.

[Charleston White]

No, this was an employee within Joe Biden's administration, the Office of Nuclear Energy. He was the. Or she. They were caught Remember stealing luggage at the airport? Do you remember that story?

[Adam]

That's the person I thought this was. Conheads go to Conan.

[Charleston White]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Go to Coneheads. I don't know if you remember Charleston Co. I thought.

[Charleston White]

Oh, Mark. Yeah. From Marky Mark. Yeah.

[Adam]

Are you kidding me? You totally threw me off. Rob. If you put him right next to each other, I thought it's the Coneheads main character. Look at that. Maybe a little bit. Not as much of a cone on the top. He's a little bit too flat. So this isn't to you. You think this is inappropriate?

[Charleston White]

Yeah. Yeah, it has. I thought, I thought. Man, I fought black women. You did well for, for our gay community. I don't fault white people for they white community.

[Adam]

Oh, you fault.

[Charleston White]

I fought our black women for our gay community. I blame them because nobody accepts homosexuality in the black community. Homosexuality and gangsterism. Nobody accept this more than the black community. Than black women most. They sons of gays are gangsters. They're not in between. That's why we stand up for guys like George Floyd and not kids like Tamir Rice. We support our gangsters. Let one of our gangster niggas get killed by the police. Let a good person get killed. We act like we don't know. Nobody let a gay person happen. Black women is mad. Black women are the only faction of our community that treat the gay man like he's a girl. And she raised her son to be like the gay dude or the gangster dude she dates. So they don't let the black man have access to his children. Soon as the baby's born, she gets named my baby, My baby. In order for him to even have rights, he has to go through the government system to put child support on himself. That ultimately restricts him and puts him in a in and out of jail bag mode. So when we look at the gay community, I remember America used to be more than you thought it was with slavery. I remember time in the 80s where they wouldn't let advertisers play commercials on children's cartoon on Saturday. They don't target children. They're targeting children.

[Adam]

Why?

[Charleston White]

I tell people all the time, if you standing up talking to kids, you done lost them. They're kneeling down, whispering in kids ear gay secrets. So if we're not kneeling down looking at babies, third grade, second grade, eye to eye and talking to them on their level, that's where they're beating us at. Because they're sneaking this in cartoons that we can't see because we're not looking at their level. A giraffe and an ant don't have the same view. These are ants with these giraffes laying on their bellies, teaching them about homosexuality, which is, if this is a Christian country, an abomination to God. So how can your leader, how can you lead them? So you think the Obama administration and Joe Biden for this? It was a long time coming on the Democrats behalf. So what the Democrats said our black people ain't good for us no more. These niggas won't even vote no more. They have the lowest voter turnout in all of our Democratic community. We need to do another Southern strategy again. Remember they said the party switched during the Nixon Southern strategy. The Democrats are a very clever slave master. Very clever slave master. So they did something like a Southern strategy. It was a gay strategy. Had they not done this, the country would be red. They went and recruited the gays and then they went and got the black woman to stand with the gays and they got the feminist white women that want to ride motorcycle with big titty to stand with the black woman and they got an army. And not only that, they got a gay mafia that's violent and dangerous and they let you know they'll do something to you and sexually violate you. And if you go against them, if you offend these group, if you slightly offend them off with your head, they will counsel you. They're bullies. It's like only thing matters to them, they got a pride month who promotes a heterosexual month. So I'm saying them flat out them, they can't make babies no way. So how can we carry on with people who can't reproduce? And one of our reasons for being here is to reproduce and multiply the earth. They gonna stop civilization, take their rights, put their ass back in the closet, make ordinances in law and say you ain't coming outside, boy, with your nuts taped up under your ass and tight shorts on. Lady, you ain't finna look like this, you got to let us know. I'm a man, I'm a boy. Other than that, you deceiving me.

[Adam]

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[Charleston White]

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[Adam]

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[Charleston White]

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[Adam]

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[Charleston White]

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[Charleston White]

Got some long feet. Yeah, in their draws. Yeah, they got feet in. They draw. They rolled it up. Tape that.

[Adam]

Let me take that. That tape is. You just got the visual and I went there, realized there's a business for it.

[Charleston White]

Yeah. Cuffing tape. Say what's up everybody. It's your boy, Charleston White, AKA America's favorite uncle. I just signed up to Manette, so if you want to message me, you want to cuss me out, you want to fuss at me, even if you want some counseling, call me. I minister healing by way of word. You can message me directly on my net. I promise, man, I'm gonna respond directly. I ignore them DMs on Instagram, they just took my Facebook. I don't respond on YouTube. I will respond on my net, I promise. Just call me and see. Text me.

[Adam]

You give me the. You give me the feeling that you watch a lot of wnba. Is that true? Like, are you.

[Charleston White]

I do wnba. Really? I mean, I saw.

[Adam]

I mean, you like, you don't like wnb?

[Charleston White]

Them lesbian chicks, man, them, them. Most WNBA women ugly, they just start getting cute.

[Adam]

You don't think Angel Reese is like a cute.

[Charleston White]

Yeah, she's a cutie. But the 80% of the other NBA league is tall, giraffe looking women like Brittany Grinders. Yeah, no, no, she's not. Most, most tall women that tall, they can play basketball. Their knees go together. They long feet. Y' all can't have the average man 5, 9, 5, 8. How you go lab with that big old woman like that and she manly. It's. That's why they can't sell ticket. If, if they hired more sexy women in the wnba, they would do NBA number. But don't nobody want to see a bunch of manly looking women running up and down the court. Send them to the military league to play over there against Russia. But now, I mean, that's not entertainment. It's the worst investment in the NBA could have ever done.

[Adam]

Is she your type?

[Charleston White]

Yeah, yeah, she. It ain't by type.

[Adam]

It's just not your type.

[Charleston White]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know. You know, a guy with lower standards to. So when something you ready to. Sometimes you ain't got, you just lower your standards.

[Adam]

I see what you're saying. Very strategic. Got it. Got it. I mean, she's a superstar right now. Yeah, she in a kind of a.

[Charleston White]

But I like the one that quit the wnb. I can't think of her name. And went to only fans and made way more than them. See, I think. I think them. They should be NBA sex workers, legally, like Vegas. I think the WNBA should be the sex workers. Like the strippers is for the rappers. The w. The NBA guys is supposed to be able to go to the WNBA and sleep with all the women in the league.

[Adam]

This one right here. Is this the one that went to only fans?

[Charleston White]

Nah. Hell no. She too fat now. This one here was bad. Now she too chubby. Jaws too chubby?

[Adam]

Jaws too chubby.

[Charleston White]

Yeah, yeah. Them fat girl cheeks.

[Adam]

Really?

[Charleston White]

Yeah. Fat girl cheeks.

[Adam]

How can you tell? Can you zoom in a little bit?

[Charleston White]

Look how chubby them cheeks. You do like them cheeks. You do like that. I can't think of the chick name, but she just. She quit, like last year.

[Adam]

She's attractive.

[Charleston White]

Very attractive.

[Adam]

Who's this one? This one?

[Charleston White]

Is that her? Yeah, that's her. Liz Campbell. Yeah, that's all right, y'. All. Is that the same chick? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's her. Yeah, yeah, that's her.

[Adam]

Well, maybe her chips. Well, in this picture, you see two cheeks.

[Charleston White]

You know what? That probably was that ball. That was. That was them feelers them girls like to get. Cause she doing only fans now, so she's doing a lot more with her lips, so she probably had to get filled.

[Adam]

So you don't like big cheeks up there.

[Charleston White]

But I'm more of an olive oil kind of guy.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Charleston White]

See, I grew up watching Popeye and.

[Adam]

And like, that's your type right there, the Liz.

[Charleston White]

Oh, man, she too big, man. It's like a big man. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam]

You know, surprised. I thought you were going to be like a big supporter, proponent of wnba, like, telling us to all watch it.

[Charleston White]

But they supposed to be playing. And what she got on right there, they should have uniforms.

[Adam]

You're saying for them to wear plain lingerie?

[Charleston White]

Yeah, yeah. In heels, running up and down them, click, clacking in them heel with them balls bouncing and the mother balls jiggling and wiggling. Going in for a layup. You know how many men are tuning into this?

[Adam]

Man? The falls would be some epic falls. Coming down on those high heels.

[Charleston White]

Fires too, man. What so. But they not being creative. They trying to. They think these women can dress like men, run up and down the court, dribble like man, shoot like man. And they're going to attract the audience. Even women like hoes.

[Adam]

Even women like.

[Charleston White]

Even women like hoe. That's why when they get drunk in that club, they go to act like hoe and they clean up real quick. Even women like to watch hoe. That's why we watch some of our favorite shows. Them. Hold on. Are entertaining. These lesbian women are not entertaining. Go get some hoes that can play basketball. They go both ways.

[Adam]

Ludicrous. Did a song about that. No, like, different area codes. Yeah, it was very.

[Charleston White]

I just think it'd be much more entertaining knowing that these are freaky women and they. With whatever playing basketball.

[Adam]

Have you ever been to a game?

[Charleston White]

Yes, once. And it was boring.

[Adam]

Really? Courtside or.

[Charleston White]

No, no. I took some kids, this organization I used to Partner with named 601 tickets. Used to donate tickets and stuff to my youth organization. So I used to take the kids out the projects to them WNBA games. Cause it didn't cost much to feed them popcorn and stuff like that. They don't have high popcorn prices like the NBA. That's how you know they ain't worth shit.

[Adam]

So their popcorn's cheap?

[Charleston White]

Yeah. So are the jerseys. They don't invest into a lot of them women.

[Adam]

Caitlin Clark's doing pretty good right now, man.

[Charleston White]

She's saving it. If it wasn't for Caitlyn and Angel. But nobody be into this.

[Adam]

Yeah, you think? Caitlin Clark. So you're a fan of Caitlyn?

[Charleston White]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam]

She's fun to watch.

[Charleston White]

She's a wholesome white woman playing basketball.

[Adam]

Your type?

[Charleston White]

No, no. Larry Bird with my type. Good white boy. That was tough. Kevin McHale. No, that ain't my typewriter. Woman. Man, a woman ain't got no business squeaking her tennis shoes up and down the basketball.

[Adam]

Really?

[Charleston White]

No. She put me over there cheerleading.

[Adam]

Got it.

[Charleston White]

Yeah, yeah. I'm old school America. Yeah, yeah. Men were men and women was afraid of men.

[Adam]

Did you hear about the devastating news that Fox fired Joy Taylor?

[Charleston White]

The sports, she wasn't good for nothing. She was trying to be too cute. Man, we need real journalists.

[Adam]

You don't think she's a real journalist.

[Charleston White]

No, man, no. Hell no, man. She too pretty. She. Yeah, yeah. Now, man. Yeah, she. Yeah. No, she didn't get there because she was the best journalist in the. In the company. What are you saying she was to get to the top, as most good women do. Nancy Pelosi done it. Everybody do it. Every woman with a smart brain on the job find some kind of way to skip the line. Who want to work hard. You work smarter, not harder, ladies.

[Adam]

So you're saying that's wise.

[Charleston White]

Very wise.

[Adam]

So she's a wise girl.

[Charleston White]

Very wise.

[Adam]

But she got fired. So what does that say about it?

[Charleston White]

She get hired real easy. If they know what she did to.

[Adam]

Get the job, maybe she wasn't doing a lot of it lately.

[Charleston White]

She probably stopped. You know, they get beside themselves. Yeah. Once you lift them up here with you, they stand shoulder to soldier with you. They think they equal to you. I can do what a man do. No, you can't. You can't fire me. I'm fine. You. So now they get tricked. They got an ego too. But she can get a job easy.

[Adam]

Did you hear about what she said about prostitution? I'm curious to know what you say about it.

[Charleston White]

No, I. I heard her. She. She was speaking on prostitution.

[Adam]

Yeah, she talked about prostitution. She said, if you want to play the clip, I think there's a clip of her time on prostitution. Maybe this is where you guys would agree on something. Joy Taylor, if you want to. Is this it?

[Charleston White]

Is that?

[Adam]

Yeah, yeah, play this clip.

[Charleston White]

Easy to get a job.

[Adam]

What do you think that America is trying to be better?

[Charleston White]

Of course not.

[Adam]

No, no. Yeah, I don't either. I think there's also a. I think there's a massive attack on femininity. Like the idea is that the masculinity is actually what's being attacked.

[Charleston White]

Right.

[Adam]

Like everything is watered down, everything is softened now. You know, everything is feminine. I actually think femininity is under control. I think that a big part of the reason why this is happening is because women got too close to power. Okay, how so? I mean, the audacity that a black woman would run for president. I mean, this was, this, this was, this was their last, their last stand. They're like, hold on, listen, we let.

[Charleston White]

You in board fast forward to see.

[Adam]

What you say about prostitution.

[Charleston White]

By the way, that wasn't a black woman that ran for prison. That was an Indian woman.

[Adam]

I think non pussy getting male lonelies are, are deteriorating society.

[Charleston White]

Yeah, Massive problem. What do you think the fix One. I think we should legalize prostitution.

[Adam]

Okay. I have been standing for decades and.

[Charleston White]

I think she want to hold. She just made us. That's a confession. She's listening. She want to legalize prostitution. Why don't she be the candidate for it? Because I agree with her. You know why I agree with her? Because I know she done sold some before. That's the only reason she would agree with this.

[Adam]

Stop.

[Charleston White]

No woman in her right mind who ain't never sold her body would co sign a woman being a prostitute. Only hoes and bitches do. A real woman and a real lady will never say we. I think prostitution would be legal. She would say hey, I think we should provide services for the women and find other ways for them other than pro. But a hoe. Go support a hoe. Why they get on the phone and tell each other business when they fucking the same guy. That's why two hoes and two bitches can get on the phone, hate one another because they fucking the same guy. Ensure intimate information that hurts each other for him. They relate to each other. Two red birds. A bluebird wouldn't say it that.

[Adam]

So she's a red bird.

[Charleston White]

She's a red bird. Now I'm more for a hoe prostitute. Yeah, I'm more for a hoe because a hoe is using her body and her self wits to advance herself in life. She might end up becoming a millionaire housewife like Anna Nicole Smith.

[Adam]

Oh she, she became a billionaire.

[Charleston White]

She was hoing. She wasn't prostituting, but it was love.

[Adam]

She loved the 88. You don't think she loved the 88?

[Charleston White]

She loved him but he loved her. All men love good hoes. Even Jesus loved one. May kept Mary Magdalene with him and his 12 disciples. No other woman got to walk with the savior other than this. So hoes are more like angels, prostitutes or sex workers carrying demonic spirits. Hoes got God's spirit in them and they usher them in. They cater to men and they don't cause men problem women ladies and are more of a opposition to a man than a whore is.

[Adam]

Forgot got confused what you said about Jesus.

[Charleston White]

He. He kept a whore, Mary Magdalene. So when you read Jesus story other than the prostitute he met at the well, he don't really with women his hoes but he kept one particular woman with him and his 12 disciples to witness all these miracles. And she was a.

[Adam]

She was a what?

[Charleston White]

A Charles A hoe. That better hoe. That's what the Bible describe is.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Charleston White]

Man prostitution been around since this time.

[Adam]

So you're saying she wants to. Joy wants to bring it back from Fox. Or you think, yeah, I, I, I.

[Charleston White]

I, I think what a woman do with her body, she should pay taxes for it. But you can't regulate it. If she's selling what she's selling and she make money, make up 5, 4, 10, 9, 9 for that pussy. File taxes on it. Right, but, but other than saying we need laws to put in place to make this legal.

[Adam]

Could be one way to pay off the national debt.

[Charleston White]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he'll pay that off one year. Man don't notice here like that, but yeah, sugar, Sugar and cotton don't even sell like that. In one year.

[Adam]

In one year.

[Charleston White]

No, she's a very nice looking lady. She is, yeah.

[Adam]

So she's your type. So if she.

[Charleston White]

Very much so.

[Adam]

If she would slide in your DMs.

[Charleston White]

You would respond, I, I'll fly in tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, I'll fly in tomorrow. And she like to talk too. Yeah, we'll talk.

[Adam]

She's not gonna know. She's not. No job now, so maybe don't be surprised if it happens all of a sudden.

[Charleston White]

Call me Joy. Oh, I got the right kind of instruction for you, all right. Your proper instructions motivate people.

[Adam]

She's got time.

[Charleston White]

Why? Yeah, be a Belichick was a bad man. Proper instruction motivate people.

[Adam]

First ladies, like, do you, you watch the first.

[Charleston White]

You think like, oh, I like the Kennedy lady. Y' all like Jackie, y' all like Miss Jackie.

[Adam]

She smoked a lot of cigarettes, though.

[Charleston White]

Oh, that's all right. That was sexy back then. Yeah, yeah, was sexy for the, for the smoke. Cigarette.

[Adam]

So she's, she's your first lady?

[Charleston White]

Yeah, yeah, she my first lady. Her. And I love Nancy too. I love Nancy Reagan.

[Adam]

Really?

[Charleston White]

I love Nancy Reagan because she brought the D program to school. Drug abuse, resistance education. This is your brain and this is your brain on drugs. So, yeah, now, I mean, so. Nah, man, she was very.

[Adam]

Classy.

[Charleston White]

Very classy. So those two ladies, that's they class. Michelle Obama has some grace in class about herself as well. But she would make it known that she don't like people by facial expression. A woman don't give off. So no signal or nothing. She's always modest and composed. Another first lady, Thomas Jefferson. And, and man, I can't.

[Adam]

Thomas Jefferson. So his wife.

[Charleston White]

His wife and his other. They started out as friends, end up becoming enemies, and then became friends again by way of the wife's writing to each other. So he was two buddies who were guys at Friends. So they fell out. So it was Thomas Jefferson. Another one. So just through history from Jefferson wife and his friend's wife. And then when I saw the Kennedys. Mama Kennedy over, over Daddy.

[Adam]

Right.

[Charleston White]

Then when I saw Barbara Bush. Them strong women. Yeah, yeah. Them strong women are the ones who whisper in those men's ears when they get weak. They have.

[Adam]

In a positive way.

[Charleston White]

In a positive way. You can't be a. You can't be a thorn in your husband's side. And he the president.

[Adam]

No, she's tough.

[Charleston White]

Yeah. So, so I, so I watched the movies. I read the books.

[Adam]

We have a guy here that let's. That's his fantasy girl, Humberto. He is crazy about Barbara Bush posters by his computer. You go by his computer like the.

[Charleston White]

Screensaver he must used to lay on the floor and look up on his grandma Madrid watching tv. Yeah. I kind of figure out dining room.

[Adam]

Like the dining table. He gives me that vibes too.

[Charleston White]

Yeah. So now so I understand the role that the first lady or how powerful she can be in shaping the nation totally. And really bringing peace.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Charleston White]

So. So if, if, if, if boy, if Trump had the right kind of woman.

[Adam]

You don't think he does.

[Charleston White]

No, stop. They don't even like each other.

[Adam]

Come on, man.

[Charleston White]

Man, you can't fly. No another woman in from another country and treat her as your equal like you would treat a woman over here. You brought over her to mistreat her. No man from America goes overseas to get a woman and bring over her and treat her love.

[Adam]

They met here.

[Charleston White]

Now he man. But she still was a foreign. They met somewhere else.

[Adam]

He didn't go get like a, you know know man.

[Charleston White]

He didn't. Man, listen, it's like a mail order bride.

[Adam]

Stop it.

[Charleston White]

He done had too many wives. He, he done been married so many times at this point. This a mail order bride. That's why now today when they walk together, he leave the little back there. You know how a treated woman as he got tired of. He don't hold his hand no more. He keep the umbrella. She don't get. She got to hold on umbrella so she don't even stand with him no more.

[Adam]

So it's obvious he always holds the.

[Charleston White]

Umbrella for I seen one. He did. He met. They must. He. She must didn't give him none at night because you don't always treat.

[Adam]

Maybe gone too.

[Charleston White]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Conversations. But you can tell you do think she's beautiful because Melania's.

[Charleston White]

Oh, yes. Oh, I, I so listen. So there's pictures of Melania And Trump and P. Diddy back in the mid-90s. And P. Diddy and Trump and Ivanka. Trump got a look at each other.

[Adam]

Melania, you mean.

[Charleston White]

Yeah, Melania. I'm sorry. Ivanka say go pro. Boy. You can't tell. But he wasn't fucking later. Stop. You can't tell me the tenacity that did he has sexually and his history. All these people went to this party. Why you think they. Charleston, why you. So it's some more pictures. Watch how. Watch how they look.

[Adam]

They're at many pictures. They're always at parties.

[Charleston White]

No, that's a Disney party.

[Adam]

That's not a Diddy party.

[Charleston White]

So listen, man, there are so many pictures with Trump and Diddy. Why you think Trump said if they've mistreated him, I look into it. Cause they buddies. They party buddies Trump been hanging with forever, man. You can't tell the D ain't me freakish. Did he. You think he ain't slide that pole up against that girl? Hey, how you doing, Mr. Trump. And let her feel it. And then now they making eye contact with each other. And Trump a freak, too. You can't be a billionaire and not be a freak sexually, man. I know reality. I know men. These men party together or together. That's why they parting together. We party with the people we party with. It's somebody now we want to. If we being real.

[Adam]

What do you say about Diddy?

[Charleston White]

He's innocent. Can't tell the man he can't whoop his woman. And she don't call the police. If my neighbor see me kicking my wife ass, they ain't got no business. But, baby, you all right. If she said I'm all right. Leave us alone. Now. If she had to help. Help y' all join in. But Cassie never hollered for help. You can't, man. Yeah, man. You can't tell me I got a billion dollars.

[Adam]

She's trying to run away. No, she was going to the elevator.

[Charleston White]

She was still in a hot dollar bag. During the sexual freak out we all agreed upon, she done got mad behind closed doors.

[Adam]

I don't know what video you've seen. Rob, pull up the video.

[Charleston White]

Man, I seen that.

[Adam]

She's running.

[Charleston White]

She's stealing his bag. She didn't buy that bag. She's. That's a theft. Give me my bag. Where you gonna.

[Adam]

You're thinking.

[Charleston White]

Give me my. What are you. Give me my. Do you. Get on back in here.

[Adam]

You think this is okay?

[Charleston White]

Yeah. Charleston, man, that's his woman. How can you tell that man, he can't do that. Man, that. That ain't my daughter. Why can't I say, man?

[Adam]

So because you have a daughter.

[Charleston White]

Yes. So listen, I also got some friends who they women is okay with that being happening because they're in this toxic relationship. This is not a normal relationship that America is thinking about. This is a drug infused. Both of them using drugs at a high level of extent in the ghetto. This is normal. But they doing this as rich people. This is not normal. Rich people do it on the inside. Rich people beat their wives on the inside. He just so happened to catch up and he didn't beat her. He said, give me back my. Kicked her and drug her back in there. And they finished. Ain't nothing like fighting and a makeup. Best orgasm in the world. They make songs about it. We break up the makeup. That's all that is. You don't see her coming back out that room. She said it's another woman in her. They were having sex. She went back in and started back having sex again. She didn't come out that room. The male prostitute said she called a book. She paid. She been having fun like a. So she was compensated for what y' all sold.

[Adam]

What was the guy's name? Punisher or something like that.

[Charleston White]

The Punisher.

[Adam]

So I wonder why they call that nickname.

[Charleston White]

He got a sled hammer. Yeah, so. So she was compensated for what we saw. Yeah, she was compensated for what we saw.

[Adam]

So they put together this 30 million bucks or something.

[Charleston White]

Yeah, plus another 20 coming from the hotel.

[Adam]

Oh, another 20 coming from.

[Charleston White]

That came out in trial. So imagine this. Everybody been knowing about this. Why was they silent for so long? Because this is. This has always been rumored. This. This is 10 years old tape. They've been knowing about this? Yeah, the feds was on a goose hunt. The feds was on a goose hunt and they blew a case. So they went and put together this big mafia type conspiracy RICO trial for a guy and his wife being freaky, girlfriend being freaky. And they in agreement with this. Was he wrong for flying in male prostitutes? No. Wrong with flying somebody in to have sex. I thought that's what rich people do to have sex. How they get there to you, how you fly your girlfriend, your other woman on the side that you don't want your wife knowing about. How they supposed to get to you? And you ain't supposed to give him no money when y' all get through. I'm taking care of my little money. This my little. I'll be. I play. Take care even though she do this. So how can I go and say this is a sex worker? They people ain't never identified as sex worker. They freaking having sex. So now our government get to rule in the bedroom. It's clear case of government ruled in the bedroom. What I did outside that hotel. The jury said not guilty.

[Adam]

You think he recorded all those guys? That is. He thinks he's got the tape on all those people.

[Charleston White]

The FBI got the tape when they seized the house.

[Adam]

Oh, no.

[Charleston White]

They seized all of his computers.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Charleston White]

And they made it seem like he had a Costco house full of baby all. He only had a couple bottles. Our government paint a. A blurred picture about this man. Is he a horrible guy? Yeah. Should he be in prison? No. Should be held without no bond? No. I every one of us know a guy who slaps his woman. And we don't say shit to him about slapping his woman.

[Adam]

What do you think about Epstein?

[Charleston White]

He alive somewhere, hiding? Prior to his death, there was already attempts made upon his life in jail. How is it a coincidence that he end up in jail with a suicide? But the autopsy report said his larynx was crushed. You can't do that with suicide, motherfucker. Choke you to do that. Why don't the media do Epstein like they do Diddy? We know everything. We know Diddy like to put cum on his nipples for men. Him and Cassie like to suck the cum off. So this is detail why we don't know details about Epstein. Where are the children? Where are their stories? Where are their testimonies? Why don't we have open access to Giselle's testimony and her cooperation with the government?

[Adam]

You mean Jalaine.

[Charleston White]

Yeah, Jelaine. You know why? Because most of the people went to the island was politicians and powerful people. Princesses of whales, all them types. The real freaks. The evil people. The evil people who can go to an island and have access to children that nobody knows have been kidnapped in the world. The evil people. Those are our politicians. Those aren't poor people. Those are not people on drugs. Those are not gang bangers that's doing this. Gang bangers hurt their own people. But it's a group of people that take our children and they disappear. And powerful people have access to them. There's a movie that I question to this day. It's called Sounds of Freedom. Cry of freedom about human. I cried watching that movie. I kept walking. I. Oh, man. I said, why don't nobody promote this movie from Hollywood? Why don't our government promote this movie? Why do our government spend so Much business in Ukraine and why we got some real laws for sexual exploitation and sexual abuse because they in on it too. So at the end of that movie it says that child sex trafficking has surpassed drugs and guns in the world. You don't need to reply, you don't need to, you don't need, you don't need to re up with a kid, you catch him in five, it's a sex slave till he die unless somebody free it. So you asked me a question earlier. How does a kid survive that with no hope, agony? It's the resiliency of a child. The adults lose throughout life. So nah man. So I think our government, all that everybody full of shit. I wore a hat that says I think everybody's playing. We really ignore the conditions of our children In America we have some of the most drug addicted children ever in the history of human existence. Today more of our children go to bed hungry, living abuse, neglect and is exposed to more violence than any other group of children outside of these third world countries. But there's not a lot of resources, there's not a lot of things put into development. More things are being taken from the kids and given to the gays and the politicians in the, in the interest groups. America being America's citizens is being robbed by politicians who put capitalism before citizenship.

[Adam]

Capitalism over citizenship.

[Charleston White]

Yeah. So that's why, that's why you hear the media terms, terms and words are powerful. What Hitler used to exterminate a whole group of people. The Consumer Reporting Credit act stripped us of our citizenship. Because if you go pull my credit you can go get access to me. So you have stripped me of my citizenship and the media now identifies Americans as the American consumer. Not the American citizens, the American consumer. Everything's about a consumer report. Capitalism. They talk socialism, but that's they really want capitalism. Capitalism supersedes racism.

[Adam]

Capitalism supersedes racism.

[Charleston White]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Tell me why.

[Charleston White]

If you get enough money, they don't look at you like you a color, if you come in matter.

[Adam]

Isn't that a good thing?

[Charleston White]

Isn't that a good thing?

[Adam]

Isn't that a good thing?

[Charleston White]

Yeah, but what about the people who can't access the capitalism?

[Adam]

A lot of people don't start off with the capital.

[Charleston White]

Most Americans won't get it and won't start off with it. According to what we're looking at today's.

[Adam]

Americans, 87% of millionaires are self made. Most of billionaires, a lot of them inherited the money. Sure you can put a number to it, but millionaires 87% are self made.

[Charleston White]

They had a different school system that taught critical thinking where they dropped out. This is not the same America that can repeat that again with this group of kids who can barely read on or above their grade level, who don't have a worldview, who don't know economics because economics are not in school. They don't know banking because they haven't been given a piggy bank to put a quarter here. They don't get an allowance to learn how to save. They don't get out. So.

[Adam]

So access to information is more available like a person today if they really wanted to go find out and learn for themselves. With just YouTube alone, you can get access to doing almost anything. Selling, coding. ChatGPT can learn how to code. You have so many methods of learning today.

[Charleston White]

Not when you're indoctrinated, you don't. Our children have been indoctrinated that part.

[Adam]

But you need to go to school to be brainwashed.

[Charleston White]

Well, YouTube can only teach you the basics. Don't teach you the basics. The people that's gonna watch YouTube can barely read. The people that can go watch YouTube are trying to fix some. They might not eat later.

[Adam]

Really.

[Charleston White]

So they don't have the. Most Americans are poor. They don't have the luxury to learn from YouTube. They're escaping reality.

[Adam]

I think sometimes if you give them an out, they'll run with it. Remember earlier on when you said when you were a kid.

[Charleston White]

Hold on, here's the out. Before you can even understand life as a kid, they putting a phone in your hand.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Charleston White]

To entertain you because you're getting on the adults. So. So now you go into a school system that's.

[Adam]

That's on the parents though.

[Charleston White]

But, but the condition don't allow the parents to teach. Right. So this is what I was taught. It takes a village to raise a child, not a parent. It takes a village.

[Adam]

Do you believe that?

[Charleston White]

Yes, I believe that wholehearted. I was raised by the village because my mother was at work. So I had a juvenile worker, I had a court worker, I had a school teacher, my mom was at work. I had a neighbor say, boy, I'm gonna tell your mama I had a village. Mr. London. Boy had. I had a village. And I said, yes, ma', am, when somebody pull your pants up, I pull them up. I say, fuck you, bitch. I pull them up because I understood the village. So you want this group of children who. Mark Zuckerberg and Steve Jobs don't even give their kids these phones.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Charleston White]

For our kids to take this phone and you can make so much money off this phone, but you ain't gonna learn it watching YouTube. I spent 5 years getting millions of views on Facebook and nobody around me knew how to monetize. Nobody. That blew my mind. That blew my mind that nobody. All these people with phones waking up, getting on social media sites don't know how to monetize their social media platforms.

[Adam]

How do you make money? Right now?

[Charleston White]

I got a comedy tour. So I've been on tour for a year. Each interview you have ever seen me done within the last four years, I get paid $10,000 per interview.

[Adam]

We haven't paid you.

[Charleston White]

No, y' all don't.

[Adam]

Yeah. So like other podcasts you go on.

[Charleston White]

So I. I would. I wouldn't go on a big platform as big as this unless. Unless it's a mutual benefit. Right, right. So. So I understand some things is not about money, but it's certain platform because what. I have to go entertain in the conversation. So. Man. So.

[Adam]

But I tell you also know how to get eyeballs. I mean, you. You go on a show, you're gonna get eyeballs.

[Charleston White]

Yeah. And so the most I've been paid is $40,000 for an interview.

[Adam]

Got it.

[Charleston White]

So. So I have. I have a Clothes. I have a. I have a website that sells merchandise. So between me, I probably do 40, $50,000 a month. And just. No. And just interviews. And then I stream with Aiden Ross. So that's another stream of revenue that comes down.

[Adam]

So, by the way, what happened with you and Michael Jordan? Is it true? Like the story?

[Charleston White]

No, no, that's some.

[Adam]

The story that he broke up a fight or something?

[Charleston White]

No, no. They say broke up a fight between me and wag100. No, no, no. Now, I ain't never met Mike.

[Adam]

So that's. That's. That's just a story that's out there that they're telling. Dutch bullshit. Okay. I saw that story. I'm like, what is it? What is that story all about? You know, with.

[Charleston White]

So. So let me just explain how I got into comedy because I didn't want to get stuck online with the Persona like the rapper does in character.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Charleston White]

Because the Persona became so polarizing because we're so cultural, influenced by entertainment. Sometime we think Denzel Washington is Denzel off Training Day. So I started realizing people was overlooking what I do in real life because they were so into this character. So when they meet me in person, they're not into Charleston. They want the Internet Persona. So I had to figure out a way to take that Persona and that Internet Character and evolve into something that's less offensive, less provoking toward black people. Instead of making them cry, make them laugh. Because I was coming with some brutal truth making motherfucker cry and it was offending people. So Paul Mooney said the greatest joke ever told was told as a truth. The greatest truth ever told was told as a joke. So I learned to make it funny so we can all laugh.

[Adam]

I like that.

[Charleston White]

Yeah. What a message.

[Adam]

Who said that? Paul.

[Charleston White]

Who? Paul Mooney.

[Adam]

Respect.

[Charleston White]

Yeah. Paul Mooney said the greatest joke ever told was told. The greatest truth ever told was told as a joke. The greatest joke ever told was told as a truth. That's why comedians have always had a past, because they come to speak our reality and truth in such a way may be offensive. So that's why I wanted to bring satire comedy back. Andrew Dice Clay, man. Glenn Beck, Howard Stern, Mal, Mabel, Peter, many. All these are satire comedy guys. Who does shock jock?

[Adam]

Glenn Beck.

[Charleston White]

Glenn Beck? Yeah. He's satire all day. Any shock jock. Stop, man. Shock jock. What, man? I meant so during. When the ball, man. During a Hillary and Obama, man. I was tuning to Glenn Beckham, man. He's a shock job and he's good at it.

[Adam]

You like him?

[Charleston White]

I love him.

[Adam]

Who do you listen to? Who do you watch?

[Charleston White]

I watched a lot of Fox News. I watched a lot of Trump.

[Adam]

Have you met him?

[Charleston White]

I. I was supposed to do the interview with him with him and Aiden Ross, but I had some. I had some. Some bogus charges on me at the time, so I couldn't pass Secret service clearance. But I ultimately ended up getting the charges dropped. So I was attacked. I was attacked by a gang member in a barbershop. He hit me in the head with a gun and.

[Adam]

Hit you in the head with a gun?

[Charleston White]

Yeah, while I'm asleep. So I wake up to being hit in the head with a gun. So. And he a well known killer gang member. And so I went to the car to retrieve my gun. And this is off camera, but I come back through the building, trying to secure the building, not knowing where they at. And so my local police department charged me with two aggravated assault after being attacked.

[Adam]

Get out of here.

[Charleston White]

Yeah, so it took me, man. I spent a lot of money. Took me. So they just dropped all the charges.

[Adam]

This is in four words.

[Charleston White]

This in four words.

[Adam]

So you've never met the president. Okay, so who would you want to meet? Who are the guys that you want to meet? If there's people you'd want to meet, who would it be?

[Charleston White]

The leader of the National Rifles Association.

[Adam]

The leader of nra.

[Charleston White]

Yeah. And I want to meet the leader, the grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. Yeah. Sit down and talk to him.

[Adam]

What would you ask him?

[Charleston White]

We'll become human friends. We'll become friends because I can connect with anybody on a human level. White, black. We don't have to be the same color. We got the same experiences as boys, men being Americans. And I know American history. And white people don't have to like you. But if you know history, you can conversate with them, they'll tolerate you, if nothing else, just to debate you, and they'll ultimately become fond of you. So talking and conversating. I want to meet people that black people think is against us, to come back and say if they're really against us. That's how I became a Republican in Texas after the George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin verdict. I didn't want to join the hateful Black Lives Matter group. I got a loving mother who says, son, God has no respective person. So my mother, I don't know hate. I come from a loving home. I don't know hate. I had to come play like I'm hateful to fit in a group of people that's hateful. So I didn't want to join a Black Lives Matter group with anger.

[Adam]

You never did.

[Charleston White]

I never did. I hated it. And plus, I ain't falling three lesbian bitches nowhere. Not no stud. I might fall a bisexual woman. Yeah. But I ain't falling three studs.

[Adam]

That makes sense.

[Charleston White]

Yeah. He fought. Yeah. So I wanted to see. I wanted to prove to back people, because here I am. I'm. I got a youth organization that has been highly recommended to all 254 counties throughout the state of Texas. This is white people that's doing it. I got a. I'm part of a national organization called Incarcerated Children's Advocacy Network. These are white people bringing me to Washington, D.C. to help me change laws and legislation. So I'm saying, man, let me see. So I dressed up one day and went to this Republican executive committee. And I was the only young black there. Mouth full of gold teeth. And I kept trying to speak on the microphone, and I ran into Greg Abbott's. One of his aides. He said, what do you want to say? I said, man, I remember this party used to embrace niggas. He was a young white boy, so we can talk this language. He hip hop. White boy used to embrace Nick. I want to get him back to embracing. But I noticed the police were starting to profile me and come over here, try to see what's going on. He gave me his card. So the next morning I called down to the Tarrant County GOP Republican Party and spoke to a gen hall and Shelly Pritchard. I said, ma', am, I came to. I'm a, I'm a conservative who just so happens to revoke Republican. I'm trying to see are they offended by what I'm saying rather than listen to what I'm saying. Saying I'm, I'm delivering it. Very articulate with manners. I said, I went to the A meeting last night and I was shunned as a black man. Mouthful of gold teeth and I can bring votes in from over here. So they invited me to come down and they adopted me. They took in my youth organization so I couldn't. Here I am, I got, I'm working in the black community, fighting against black people. But I got all these white people that they say racist Republican, they're sewing into me from the Terrence Star Republican Women's Club. I'm building relationship with judges where when black people get in trouble, I say, your honor, he works for me over there. Oh, he does. Charleston, show us some proof. So I'm building relationships because why would I be a Democrat? And there's hardly any Democratic judges and all my people need judges with a mouthpiece. So I found out that white people aren't really racist. They prejudice, they prejudice. We all prejudice. We all ethnocentric ideology that think it's better than others. We just don't understand each other. So I start bringing niggas around, these white Republican people with dreads and tattoos who had murder cases and they see redemption in these people because they hear the stories. So now we all partner together to work with children. We're doing reading programs. So I let, I let the divisiveness of America's culture and temperament at the time. George Floyd KILLING so yeah, man, I didn't want to be connected to hate because I was starting to hate. But I wasn't hating white people. I was hating black people. I was watching black people shoot up a 93 year old woman house by mistake and nobody said nothing. I was watching kids get killed and you have a fundraiser to try to bury the kids. But the gang he died for ain't help him bury him. The black church that he's trying to be buried is extorting the mother for more money. So man, I ain't like that. So I went, I was getting burnt out because I was a Struggling father trying to help the community. I became the change I wanted to see. I'm a pre law student at Texas Western University. Just started a youth organization. Car broke down, I'm riding a bus to school. People ride by, see me. So I'm embarrassed by being on the bus stop. Can't take my kids nowhere. But I got a heart to help the community. So at some point you become frustrated and angry as most community leaders do. The lack of support. I figured out a way how to self sustain my organization. I didn't have to apply for no grants. I knew how to sell barbecue, shake down the drug dealers, stop the prostitutes, say y' all can't see a no and yeah. So I would shake down the community. I'm gonna call the police on y'. All. Why I need to add white people and I'm helping us. So black people became my greatest enemy, helping their children. But I'm the ones getting their kids out the juvenile system. I'm the ones setting up the getting people license back reinstated. I turned away from everybody. I was having a mental breakdown every day, all day. Man, you talking about for almost seven, eight years. And I'm speaking in legislation, I'm doing trains for U.S. department of Homeland Security and I'm trying to maintain my gpa. Yeah, I had a mental breakdown and this would cause the breakdown because I was used as a political pawn from the power structure. They needed a voice like mine that was dynamic, that challenged the black preachers and I challenged them and I shamed them. So white people grabbed me and made me a poster child. They used me to as a voice piece to go out into the black community to bridge the gap between law enforcement and the black community. So at the time, the federal government had just issued out a national initiative to six cities that probably could be the next Baltimore riots. So Fort Worth was one of those cities. It was called 21st, 21st century community policing. So he kind of wanted to bring back beat cops where the cops know the neighborhood, put more.

[Adam]

This is in Dallas.

[Charleston White]

This is for work. So they had this, they had this program that the police department developed by way of this national initiative that was called procedural justice. Procedural justice was a new training aspect that was brought to new law enforcement to kind of have them more race sensitive. Right. And they needed a black voice to go out. So I was one of the main voices that they used.

[Adam]

By the way, what do you. TD Jakes is in Dallas, Right. Have you ever done anything with it? What do you think about tdj?

[Charleston White]

He, he, he, he he for TD Jake's foot. His church. He not for the community.

[Adam]

He's for his church. Not meaning members of his church.

[Charleston White]

No, he mean the Potter's house. Right, meaning a member. He, he for his church. That's his business. He not for Dallas. We don't see him nowhere doing nothing. His church or nothing. Now they got a prison reentry, but that's for the grant funding for his business.

[Adam]

Do you think he's a net positive to Dallas?

[Charleston White]

No.

[Adam]

To the black community?

[Charleston White]

No.

[Adam]

TD Jakes?

[Charleston White]

No. What do we do other than preach a good message to make our mothers feel good? Only come back home and still drink wine and feel better. Playing a pussy with a rose to feel emo better. So all he is is a feel good preacher? Nah, man. The Bible says what you do for the least of those. I don't see no preacher, no church really doing for the least of those. Other than the poor churches, that's amongst the least of those. You cannot take your big beautiful church building out on the hill away from the people and think you can still reach the people. They can't walk to that church. And matter of fact, this church is so extravagant it's ATM machines all over this. And when it's time to pay ties, poor people are excluded out of the black church. What do you mean they're excluded? The preacher make you feel like you ain't got a soda seed. Who got a soda seed? They make you feel like if you ain't got no money to give, God don't need my money. He need my confessions. So you're not a black church full of shit that go for TD Jakes? All of them.

[Adam]

What do you think about Creflo?

[Charleston White]

Full of shit. Obsolete to the black people, right? They have an audience. Like I got an audience. If I lose a page, my audience come follow me. Like they're following. They're not for the community. I started from the community and develop a following.

[Adam]

You don't think TD Jakes is a net positive to community still? Like, you know, he preached other.

[Charleston White]

What does. Why is a preacher. How's a preacher go back to what.

[Adam]

You said earlier when you said hip hop or the. The movies would come to the bad communities and it would convert. So what if somebody doesn't live in Dallas and they live in Kansas, they live in New York, they live in Arkansas, they live in London and they watch him. They're like, they just like the way he delivers his message. Isn't that a net positive?

[Charleston White]

No. Tell me why, what does it do? It make you feel good for the moment. It make so so church make you feel good for whenever. Hey hallelujah pastor. You go back to the same problems, same conditions and most people lives don't transform.

[Adam]

You don't think people make decisions when they give their life when they get baptized?

[Charleston White]

I think when people get their life to God, they going through something, they dealing with something soon as get back right. They sneaking and having unmarried sticks. They still getting drunk, they still masturbating and still watching P.O. i. Everybody's think full of when it come to God because you're going to do something against God every day. Stop trying to be.

[Adam]

You believe in God?

[Charleston White]

Yeah, I do. But I ain't trying to live for God. God gave me a choice of free will. I don't want to be a godly man.

[Adam]

You don't want to be a godly?

[Charleston White]

I want to a bunch of women.

[Adam]

So you all you make that decision?

[Charleston White]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get God on the deathbed. But right now I'm living for me God. I believe in him. I get the same blessings if I believe. If I don't. The, the, the. The son shines on the bad just like the rain fall on the good. Good things happen to bad people like bad things happen to good people. God ain't got nothing to do with that.

[Adam]

You think this is the right example on the way to live your life because you're saying you want to do net.

[Charleston White]

Listen, you live your life.

[Adam]

Those are two different things.

[Charleston White]

Let me say yes, I think it's the right message.

[Adam]

Tell me why.

[Charleston White]

Because can't nobody dictate to you about your life. God gave it to you.

[Adam]

No, that's not what I'm saying. That's not what I'm saying. You're right. You can do whatever you want to do.

[Charleston White]

I don't think God is real. I think God is questionable.

[Adam]

Well then that's a different conversation. You just told me you said God is real.

[Charleston White]

Then I said I believe in God based off what my mother said.

[Adam]

But you don't believe God is real.

[Charleston White]

I've never. I've read Revelation. Yeah, and I read Genesis. Now I don't believe God is real because I just told you about children being sex trafficked. Where's God for them?

[Adam]

By who though? By who?

[Charleston White]

By whoever. I don't know.

[Adam]

By the people.

[Charleston White]

By what people?

[Adam]

By the people.

[Charleston White]

The government, whoever. So if God is real, why he don't stop those people?

[Adam]

If God is real, free will to.

[Charleston White]

Okay, okay, okay. So that's why I don't think God is real? Because if God is real, why hadn't white people suffered for what they did to slavery? If God is really real, so then.

[Adam]

For you, you're so. You're conflicted.

[Charleston White]

No, I'm not conflicted. I don't believe people know God to tell me God is really real.

[Adam]

No, I must. So, no, I. Originally you said you believe.

[Charleston White]

I believe in God. That don't mean I think he real. I believe in the boogeyman. I don't think he's real. I believe in ghosts, the spirit. I don't know how.

[Adam]

Do you have faith?

[Charleston White]

No, I ain't got. I got faith in me.

[Adam]

You got faith in you.

[Charleston White]

Because everything I heard about faith, I think is.

[Adam]

So let me tell you who is the biggest man in your life that lets you down?

[Charleston White]

No.

[Adam]

No man's ever let you down.

[Charleston White]

I've never been connected to a man. Father never been connected to him. To be let down.

[Adam]

Did you ever meet him?

[Charleston White]

Never.

[Adam]

So that's the biggest lesson. That's not.

[Charleston White]

That's not a lit.

[Adam]

We never met him.

[Charleston White]

I had uncles and granddaddies to replace that let down. You don't even know it's there.

[Adam]

But there's different.

[Charleston White]

No, no, no, no, no. Listen, listen. Out of sight is really out of mind. There are many kids who. Father is gone and another replacement have stepped in and filled the void of a father. No, no, no, no, no, man, listen. If you've never seen your dad, you don't have attachment to it. That's.

[Adam]

Yeah, but that's a different story.

[Charleston White]

That's a childhood abandonment. That's a childhood abandon issue that you hold in secretly. That don't affect you as a disappointment. You never expected nothing, to be disappointed.

[Adam]

Not as a. Not so. I'm listening to you and it's. It's not your fault. I'm not sitting here saying anything that.

[Charleston White]

Man, I don't give a damn what you saying. I'm telling you, I ain't never been connected to a man to be. Listen, I had a granddaddy. I had an uncle who kept me with him. I don't know. That's not my daddy. The presence of a man is the father, not the title.

[Adam]

Yeah, but when a man grows up, eventually I don't. You said something earlier.

[Charleston White]

Listen, when I grow up, I have no connection to a man, so no man. I ain't been hurt by a man. I had no connection to a man to be hurt. No expectation, no nothing.

[Adam]

Do you know what you said at the beginning of the podcast? You Said something very powerful. You said, you know, when you were a kid, you and your older brother, he was a big guy and he was in and out of juvie, and your mother ended up having a daughter. I think you said, he.

[Charleston White]

Later in life.

[Adam]

Later on in life, she ended up having a daughter. And then mom worked for gm and she worked after you guys got home, so she would prepare your meal, she would tell you to do the homework, and she's gonna call at these times, you guys better be home or else. And if she came home and if you guys didn't do what she told you to do, she'd wake your ass up and talk to you.

[Charleston White]

Now, where the man is.

[Adam]

Exactly. That's what I'm saying. But because there wasn't a man, she couldn't check you to raise boys. I was raised by.

[Charleston White]

You don't know what the fuck you talking about. I'm telling you, I got uncles and granddaddy. You think my granddaddy ain't around checking my brother? We had, man. No, no, no, no. But I never told you. It wasn't no man. You're assuming I got a bunch of uncles and granddaddy. So if you know my. So I had a presence of a male, right? I ain't the black kid that grew up poor with no dad. I had a plenty of men well to do, kid. I had my own room.

[Adam]

You know what I love about you, Charleston? Let me tell you what I love about you, and I have so much respect for you, is, you know, when we were. When I was a kid and I was. We didn't have a lot of money. We're like a. You know, what do you call it? Section eight and welfare, kid.

[Charleston White]

See, I don't know what it's like to be poor.

[Adam]

I'm telling you. I'm telling you.

[Charleston White]

Y' all know what it's like to be poor.

[Adam]

I'm telling you. From my perspective. But from my perspective, when I was raised that way in la, Glendale, and we would have people that would come over and they would say things like, hey, you know, let us get you this for Christmas. Let us get you this. And, oh, pour this, pour that. I hated it. I couldn't stand people looking down at us as if we don't have anything, as if we don't have any money. I hated it. I couldn't stand it. So I went to the Army. And then eventually I ended up making my own money. I didn't want to be in debt to anybody. I didn't want any favors. I Didn't want any of that stuff. Your level of mentally, how powerful words have been in your life. Let me just say you sangre hip hop song at the beginning.

[Charleston White]

I come from love. Love conquers all. So I got a loving mother.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Charleston White]

We live in a wonderful affluent background. When I get hurt, I'm centered around love. I'm growing up in a hospital with loving nurses. I don't know my daddy. Not here. I got number love. I got my uncle. I'm his favorite nephew. My name is Charleston. My nickname is Blue. My uncle was a pimp. I was born in 1977. There's a movie called Comeback. Charleston Blue, 1976. My uncle named me. That's my daddy. So I always tried to be a pimp. Pimp on hold, prostitute, hoe. I'm my daddy. Absent.

[Adam]

Validate my point.

[Charleston White]

So, so, so this is what I'm saying. So I had men. I had men. So I don't have no abandonment. I was a kid who grew up in a hospital setting. Like a dog who've been inside. Finally got to go outside and play as a kid. I'm happy. Yeah, I'm ha. I'm not. I'm not. No, I'm happy. I just never been a kid before and I'm attracted by what's wrong. So now, I mean, I was. I wasn't hurt. That's the excuse most people like to use. That's not my excuse. I chose to do what I did because I thought that was a part of me.

[Adam]

I believe you.

[Charleston White]

Yeah, I believe so. So my uncle would paint pretty pictures of prison to me. So when I got to school at recess, I was telling my friend what I was gonna do when I get to prison based off what they done told me. So it wasn't disappointment. It was a badge of honor. It's a badge of honor as most black people kill with Cold hearted seemed like it's not cold. They want that badge of honor. And I wanted it one eye, small frame, couldn't play football. I want to be a part of something. Yeah. And I found something to be a part of. And it was everything I was looking for coming from them negative uncles and my working mother's home. Her presence is gone. We just got a perfect environment, great environment, but we got this negative images to see that matches what we see on television.

[Adam]

Is she still around?

[Charleston White]

Yeah, mama's still around. Retired from General Motors, became a foster parent for like 30 years.

[Adam]

Dallas? Yeah, still in Dallas.

[Charleston White]

Yeah, still in Dallas.

[Adam]

Your brother, your older brother.

[Charleston White]

My brother just come home from prison after doing 31 years for a murder he called committed when he was 17. Now, my brother was angry. He had a disappointment in his father. He was, daddy, show up, Daddy. I never had dad to show up to disappointment.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Charleston White]

So he was angry. I always angry. So I remember we was about the. The General Motors Arlington plan had transferred the people from Texas to Monroe, Louisiana. I remember watching TV one time, I probably about 10 years old, and out of nowhere, my brother looked at me and said, when I grow up, I'm gonna kill somebody. I ran after I told my mama, my mother spanked him out of frustration.

[Adam]

How old was he?

[Charleston White]

He probably was 12.

[Adam]

What was he watching when he said this?

[Charleston White]

Oh, we were watching a Rambo movie.

[Adam]

And he said, first Blood.

[Charleston White]

He said he just looked at me out of nowhere, said with a. With a sincere looking. It scared me as a kid. He said, when I grew up, I'm gonna kill somebody.

[Adam]

Got it, man.

[Charleston White]

I ran after Harry. I told my mother, because mothers have to work with very little support back then. That's a lot of support. She didn't have the luxury to sit down and try to understand where that root came from. So he dealt with a lot of disappointment. He grew up angry. I grew up with love, just wanting to fit in. I didn't want to be the baby I want to be treated. Yeah, I was, baby. I was coddled, but I was a Braveheart. I couldn't wait to break free.

[Adam]

All. All goes back to the conversations we had. When you're talking about how things happen with the African American community, when we talked about crack earlier, when we talked about mindset earlier, father policies, a lot of that. And today, how old are you? Are you.

[Charleston White]

I'm 48. I just turned 48 May 17th.

[Adam]

So your brother's how old?

[Charleston White]

He turned 51.

[Adam]

So he just got out three years ago?

[Charleston White]

Yeah, he just got. Three years ago.

[Adam]

Three years ago. 31 years.

[Charleston White]

Yeah, from 17.

[Adam]

But you guys are still close.

[Charleston White]

No. You don't know your brother after 30 years.

[Adam]

That's what I'm saying.

[Charleston White]

I don't want to be close.

[Adam]

What happened when you saw him? Did you see him?

[Charleston White]

Yeah. How you gonna see him in prison?

[Adam]

And when. When he came out, what was the conversation like?

[Charleston White]

I don't know. You like that even though I've been seeing you? We've been seeing each other in and out of prison for 30. So we see each other. But at some point, I stopped going to go see my brother in prison because I'm not your mother and I'm not your father. Your mama love you enough to keep going to go see you. I'm gonna stay with my kid. My kids ain't down here. Why do I have to subject myself to be treated like that? So I ain't gonna see. I ain't sending no money on his books because come out here to us. You got a family out here. So. So when he got out, he got out on the right track, but he's institutionalized and. And he think he know everything. So you have to put your hand back because you can't correct a fool.

[Adam]

Makes sense. Charleston, this has been a blast talking to you.

[Charleston White]

I love it. You gotta have it.

[Adam]

I definitely will. You will be invited 100 back again in the future. We got a lot more talking to do. But I got a meeting I'm five minutes late to and they're texting me left and right right now. Appreciate you for coming up, bro.

[Charleston White]

You ain't orchestra. My bride. Did you what I said eyebrows are arched.

[Adam]

Are they arched?

[Charleston White]

Yeah.

[Adam]

What does that mean?

[Charleston White]

He. They ain't threaded, are they?

[Adam]

Are they threaded?

[Charleston White]

They do perfectly dumb.

[Adam]

I got a true Middle Eastern eyebrow.

[Charleston White]

I'm sitting up here. Say, what's up, everybody? It's your boy, Charleston White, AKA America's favorite uncle. I just signed up to Manit, so if you want to message me, you want to cuss me out, you want to fuss at me, even if you want some counseling, call me. I minister healing by way of word. You can message me directly on my net. I promise, man, I'm gonna respond directly. I ignore them DMs on Instagram, they just took my Facebook. I don't respond on YouTube. I will respond on Manette. I promise. Just call me and see. Text me.