Rick Ross On 50 Cent, Drake & Hip-Hop's Biggest Beefs

Summary

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PBD Podcast #806 — “He's A Minion”: Rick Ross GOES OFF: 50 Cent, Drake & Hip-Hop's Biggest Beefs

Date: May 26, 2026
Host: Patrick Bet-David (PBD)
Guest: Rick Ross

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Episode Overview

In this charged and revealing episode, Patrick Bet-David sits down with hip-hop mogul Rick Ross for a no-holds-barred conversation spanning business, legacy, hip-hop rivalries, entrepreneurship, and personal growth. Ross doesn’t pull punches as he addresses his feuds with 50 Cent and Drake, discusses the making of a rap empire, lessons from his upbringing, the importance of hustle, and what it takes to build lasting success in music and business.

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Main Themes and Key Insights

1. Origins, Identity, and Upbringing

• Lessons from Family:
  Ross credits his hustler mentality to his grandfather, who taught him early lessons about initiative and responsibility.

  “If you’re going to be great, you gotta be great... You have to make moves.” (05:11, Rick Ross)

• Mother’s Influence:
  His mother was his main source of confidence during school, defending him against critics and educators who “didn’t understand” him.

  “They don’t understand you, William. You don’t need to be in public schools.” (07:28, Rick Ross)

2. Growing Up in Music

• Early Influences:
  Ross recounts falling in love with music and hip-hop culture from the late '80s onwards, inspired by acts like Too Short, NWA, Public Enemy, Tribe Called Quest, and the soulful sounds prevalent in his home.
• Blending Sounds:
  Ross attributes his distinctive musical style to a fusion of old-school R&B and rap, crediting artists like Sade and Anita Baker for shaping his ear and ambition.

  “Music I make, you gotta have a certain mindset, big boy.” (88:02, Rick Ross)

3. Defining Moments and Career Breakthrough

• First Big Record & Bidding War:
  “Every Day I’m Hustlin’” changed everything for Ross. He describes how the record led to a major bidding war, resulting in a deal with Def Jam after impressing LA Reid and Jay-Z.

  “Once I released Every Damn Hustlin, that’s when the bidding war turned all the way up.” (33:36, Rick Ross)

• Business Acumen:
  Ross details his early understanding of investments, particularly in real estate, and how he reinvested his first big checks rather than splurging indiscriminately.

4. On Beef: 50 Cent, Drake & Hip-Hop Competition

• 50 Cent Feud:
  Ross calls 50 Cent a “minion”, doubles down on never collaborating, and ridicules his financial status and TV ventures.

  “Of course not. He’s a minion.” (79:35, Rick Ross re: 50 Cent being at his level) “He not getting none of that $1,500 episode payment check. That ain’t nothing, man.” (69:31, Rick Ross)

• Drake Feud:
  Ross refuses to put Drake at his level, citing a lack of street validation despite streaming success.

  “You’re not putting Drake at your level... you might be confused with the numbers and all of the fake numbers flood the marketplace.” (79:43, Rick Ross)

• Competition in Hip-Hop:
  He distinguishes his place from other legends, expressing respect for Biggie, Pac, and Jay-Z, but argues “nobody that’s on my level for me to go against” (63:35, Rick Ross).

5. Creative Process, Hustle, and Reinvention

• Work Ethic Over Talent:
  Commitment and relentless work ethic are more important than sheer talent for Ross—qualities he seeks in others he works with.

  “The ultimate hustler. We not gonna stop until we get this done.” (49:16, Rick Ross)

• Artistic Standards:
  Ross never aims to simply “rap” but to create work that outdoes his own legacy.

  “This is legacy... something that’ll be discussed hundreds of years from now.” (26:46, Rick Ross)

• Upcoming Projects:
  He teases his new album Set in Stone (out June 12), promising major collaborations and what he claims will be his most ambitious work yet.

6. Business Moves and Aspirations

• Diversification:
  From Rap Snacks and alcoholic beverages to real estate and tech (Easy Fill), Ross outlines his multimillion-dollar investments.
• Miami Dolphins Ownership Dream:
  Ross eyes a minority stake in the Miami Dolphins, and PBD even texts their CFO live during the episode.

  “Hopefully one day I’ll become a minority owner in the Miami Dolphins.” (28:42, Rick Ross)

• Brand Building Advice:
  He underscores the power of personal branding as a vehicle for business expansion, with over 30 current partnerships.

7. On Vulnerability and Midlife Crisis

• Facing Struggles:
  Ross candidly discusses going through a “midlife crisis” despite immense material success, emphasizing the need for fulfillment beyond wealth or fame.

8. Personal Life, Tastes, and Lifestyle

• Home, Cars, and Real Estate:
  Owns one of America’s largest homes (Evander Holyfield’s former mansion), hundreds of cars, a significant watch collection, and even livestock (“I have buffaloes!” (89:11, Rick Ross)).
• Hobbies:
  Reveals a love for outdoor activities, including cutting his own grass and tending to animals.
• Pop Culture:
  Expresses admiration for Quentin Tarantino and Denzel Washington films, Sade as a dream musical collaborator, and a varied music playlist.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Hustle, Ambition, and Legacy:

  “This ain’t just one record. I know how that go... This is big boy, heavyweight, and I made that clear.” (36:46, Rick Ross)

• On 50 Cent:

  “He’s a minion... I let 50 wash the bottom of my yacht.” (71:47, Rick Ross)

• On Drake:

  “I can’t be afraid of a response from a minion.” (02:00, Rick Ross)
  “If Drake was what you think he was, he would have cleared all this up... he might sue you for speaking of him on this situation.” (80:17, Rick Ross)

• On Work Ethic:

  “How dedicated are you? Are you willing to work 15 hours a day?... we not gonna stop until we get this done.” (49:16, Rick Ross)

• On Family Influence:

  “Just a lot of different game... If you’re going to be great, you gotta be great, you know what I mean?” (05:11, Rick Ross)

• On First Big Break:

  “Every day I’m hustling... two weeks later at the most, I had spoke to the top 10 executives in the industry.” (34:26, Rick Ross)

• On Street Cred and Realness:

  “The music is the most important part... what goes on behind the scenes... are you really a boss?” (61:15, Rick Ross)

• On Miami Life:

  “Miami has always been the spot... it’s the sunlight, it’s the ocean, it’s the breeze, the alkaline air.” (32:40 & earlier repeated, Rick Ross)

• On Feuds and Respect:

  “I would never compete against Big, against Pac, against Jay-Z... that’s where I got the game from.” (63:06, Rick Ross)

• On Building Emperorship:

  “I want to challenge myself... No more just being comfortable being known as a top five lyricist in the game. Now, let’s go higher.” (27:10, Rick Ross)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• Correctional Officer and Street Hustle: 00:00–00:20, 58:10–60:00
• Music Upbringing & Family Lessons: 04:00–08:30
• First Hit, Bidding Wars, and Business Lessons: 33:30–36:46, 41:11–43:30
• Conflicts with 50 Cent & Drake: 69:06–73:36, 79:33–84:55
• Music Creation & Upcoming Album: 26:42–27:10, 85:55–88:02
• On the Miami Dolphins Stake: 28:42–31:33
• Real Estate & Investing: 91:01–93:33
• Personal Playlists and Music Philosophy: 65:14–68:41
• Reflections on Hip-Hop’s Current State and Beef Culture: 94:50–96:44

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Notable Exchanges

• On Business and Ownership (Miami Dolphins):
  • PBD: “Would you want to be actively involved?”
  • Ross: “What, you think I’m gonna walk around and not be involved?” (31:41)
• On Dissing 50 Cent and Drake:
  • PBD: “You’re saying 50 is not at your level?”
  • Ross: “Of course not. He’s a minion.” (79:35)
• On First Big Investment:
  • Ross: “My whole thing was I like to dump lumps in the real estate.” (43:05)
• On Career Drive:
  • Ross: “The 40-year-old Rose was just understanding what it’s like to be wealthy. Now, how do you grow from there?” (27:17)

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Conclusion: Episode Highlights

Ross’s persona and philosophies—relentless hustle, diversification, and protecting his status and vision—shine throughout this episode. Despite his combative tone regarding rivals, he gives insight into the roots of his ambition, the value of authenticity, and how to transcend music with business and influence. Whether breaking down old feuds, new business deals, or his approach to artistry and life, Ross provides a masterclass in unapologetic self-belief and entrepreneurial drive, all welded to the sounds and style of hip-hop culture.

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“This is legacy. When I say set in stone, it’s not just paper and pen. No, this is something that’ll be discussed hundreds of years from now.”
(26:46, Rick Ross)

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[For further details, see segments listed above and listen to the full episode for the complete Ross experience.]

Transcript

[Patrick Bet-David]

You were a correctional Officer for what, 16 months?

[Rick Ross]

17n much less than that. But whatever the story was, that part of my life, they missed it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

They missed it.

[Rick Ross]

They're half a billion late man.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So I brought on Freeway Rick Cross. Was he the reason why you named yourself?

[Rick Ross]

He's a crackhead. What are you talking about? Why would a crackhead inspire the boss?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Rick ross history with UN50. Is it better now?

[Rick Ross]

That's a nice alley hoop you just threw me.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But you going to take it or you going to pass it back?

[Rick Ross]

I told you, I'm a win by Yama.

[Patrick Bet-David]

This and a wi.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, but not home me wash. I took his younger son fishing before.

[Patrick Bet-David]

This is when you guys were good.

[Rick Ross]

I called him Bruce Lee

[Patrick Bet-David]

and 50 new. You're taking a fishing.

[Rick Ross]

The important thing here is 50 cent son got to fish at a great location. Star Island, Miami has always been the spot. It's the sunlight, it's the ocean, it's the breeze, the alkaline air.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You can keep selling it. By the way.

[Rick Ross]

You throw me the alley loop. Hopefully one day I'll become a minority owner in the Miami Dolphins.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Oh, really? The CFO is a good friend of mine, Chris. Text him right now. Chris, would you want to be actively involved?

[Rick Ross]

What, you think I'm going to walk around and not be involved

[Patrick Bet-David]

in 06? Everybody was bidding for you.

[Rick Ross]

It was a lot of people who understood my direction. I just made it clear this wasn't going to be regular. This big boy, heavyweight Rick Ross collaborations. Sade is number one on the list. For her to do a concert, all she has to do is come out in a white gown, no shoes, and just sit down Indian style.

[Patrick Bet-David]

If you putting it out there, they're probably going to reach out to you.

[Rick Ross]

Oh my God. I would love to go get you a cup of matcha.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Would you put Drake at your level?

[Rick Ross]

Of course not. He's a minion.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You're not putting Drake at your level.

[Rick Ross]

I can see it in your eyes. You might be confused. Pbd. Come on now.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah,

[Rick Ross]

I catch your alley.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I'm telling you, you can't be afraid

[Rick Ross]

of a response from a minion.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Did you listen to Iceman?

[Rick Ross]

I listened to some of it. My engine was. It was horrend this. A who always bringing up Michael Jackson. What a Billy Jean at.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It's fair to say you guys won't be collaborating anytime soon.

[Rick Ross]

I don't know if some might want to go fishing.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Rick Ross in the house. How you doing?

[Rick Ross]

Wonderful. Wonderful.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, this, this, this book of yours that came out very different than the other two. Very different.

[Rick Ross]

Without a doubt, huh? Without a doubt.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, it's. It's a very. Obviously, you know, from the outside when somebody watches you, your, your song, your hits, the stuff that you've had. But I was not expecting for you to come out and talk about a midlife crisis in this book of yours that just came out.

[Rick Ross]

Why not?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Well, I mean, it's good because it relates to everybody. You know, a lot of other people in business who go through it, they watch someone like you and they automatically think that you have everything figured out for somebody like you to kind of open up and be vulnerable. It relates to everybody, especially in business. But the part that was the interesting thing for me. Hundred car collection. Is it true that you got your driver's license at 45?

[Rick Ross]

It. Let's say, okay, when I was 15, you get your little pre. Driver's license, you know, then, you know, you're in high school, you get your license. But my license expired after high school and I've never went and renewed them to, you know, a few years ago.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Got it. So you, you did get the license at 15, 16, but you didn't renew it?

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, in high school I did the little driver's course. Boom. They give you the. I forgot what they call it before your driver license. You get some, some like that, you know what I'm saying? At 15 and then at 16. Yeah, driver's there. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And then at 16 they gave me my license, but I never renewed them. But I also went, you know, a long time without driving, so.

[Patrick Bet-David]

A long time without driving, so. So literally you weren't driving?

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, a long time, you know, I was using drivers, you know what I'm saying?

[Patrick Bet-David]

So you didn't need a driver's license?

[Rick Ross]

I didn't. That's what I felt like.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What was your first car, by the way? What was the first car you ever had, man?

[Rick Ross]

Rip to my grandfather. He gave me a 76 Caprice. He knew, he understood the love I had for Chevy's at a young age. So, you know, he had a, he had him a little small collection, a little spot where they used to work on cars at. So yep, I had a two door just like the blue one right here.

[Patrick Bet-David]

At what age?

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, 15. 16.

[Patrick Bet-David]

15. 16 years old. First car.

[Rick Ross]

First car.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Now did you get your drive and your, you know, competitiveness from your grandfather? Was he one that was, you know, also hustling or where did that drive come?

[Rick Ross]

He without a doubt was a hustler he was he without a doubt, you know what I'm saying? He was from Clarksdale, Mississippi and for you to have, you know, automobile motor shop or something, you got to really be a go getter.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And, and was he tough? Was it a close relationship where he would toughen you up or you know, where did the toughness come from?

[Rick Ross]

No, he was really, he was really soft spoken and really just shared that wisdom. He really shared that wisdom.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What did he share with you at a young age?

[Rick Ross]

No, just a lot of different game told me a lot of different stories. Just a lot of different. If you're going to be great, you got to be great, you know what I mean? Just a lot of different. Okay, let me tell you like this. It was you, you could sit around and you will hear stories like, yo, they'll tell you how a big boy told them what they would do. A lot of people, let's say if you was a rich, you know what I'm saying, you would put a piece of paper right there on the floor. Right. And if you, you have somebody come in, let's say if you interviewing them for something.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Rick Ross]

And if they stepped over that paper, they wouldn't even. It's already done.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What does that mean?

[Rick Ross]

That mean if I gotta tell you to pick that paper up. Oh, I got you ain't on your A game.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Wow. Wow.

[Rick Ross]

So when you step into some place, if you see that you gotta as you go, you already unbelievable making moves.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Wow.

[Rick Ross]

So that's that game you could get from somebody. If you a Youngster, if you 12, 15 years old and you listening to somebody that's 60, that's the type of game you get. And that's what I absorbed and that's what I apply to. The wild hustle. Now.

[Patrick Bet-David]

When did you know you were special? When did you know you had something special in you? How early like you knew something was different about you.

[Rick Ross]

You know, it wasn't too early because I, at first I had to accept my weaknesses. You know, when I first was in school, I damn near could remember the first day when they gave us a paper and pencil when we was tracing the letters, you know, I would be A, B and C. I remember looking around when everybody else understood the instructions, the whole class, everybody else tracing the letters A, B and C. And I was looking around like, damn, I missed all of this. So that's what I had to deal with. The first beginning of my life. Okay, I'm not good at math. I'm not this. Okay. My strength is reading and I Love films. I love showing me something on the screen versus listening to this man talk in front of me. I have nothing in common with these people.

[Patrick Bet-David]

In school.

[Rick Ross]

In school.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And what grade? How early was that?

[Rick Ross]

First grade.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Oh, wow.

[Rick Ross]

I knew it was a problem there.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So who now, who is feeding confidence into you? Because you're very.

[Rick Ross]

Mother. Yeah, my mother.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What would she say to you? How did she develop the confidence?

[Rick Ross]

They don't understand you, William. They don't understand you. I'm talking about the whole school telling me you don't need to be in public schools.

[Patrick Bet-David]

She's telling you this?

[Rick Ross]

No, the school, the principals, everybody else, you know, the people they send to your house to sit down and talk with your parents and try to tell them there's something wrong with this individual. And she's saying, no, you're wrong.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And you would see this exchange she's having with them.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, I've said, you know, of course, wow. Multiple times. And I would watch her defend me.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You know who else was like that? The documentary of Kanye. When you watched the role his mom played. His mom was also big on development, confidence in him as well. I don't know if you saw the documentary with Kanye, I might have missed it. Yeah. It was also similar thing where, you know, the role of mother plays in. In raising a son and what kind of comp. So. So you're getting that support now when you're going to school? Are you, you know, are you early on rapping? Are you playing sports? What would a Rick Ross, if I was in 5th grade with you or 10th grade with you? Who was Rick Ross in 5th and 10th grade?

[Rick Ross]

I was the most. Definitely a class clown. I was highly respected. I wasn't on no bully type vibe, you know. But I hit you with a two piece real quick, you know what I mean? So give me a little piece of that pizza you eating on. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Other than that, you know, I used to crack jokes and music was in my life by this time. Because by this time, yeah, by the fifth grade, you know, I have, you know, friends now. We, We. We got homies. And one of my closest friends, his name was Avery Branch. Wherever he had, I've been looking for him for the last few years. He's been featured on two or three of my albums. But he had. What his mom would do was like, you know, kids that had problems, she would adopt him. So, you know, it's almost like he had five or six big brothers in his crib. And they were doing music and everything else. So I was introduced, you know, through my homie Boom, to his big brothers, them who had vinyl records, this, that. Oh, so we're a rap group? Yeah, y' all a rap group now? Okay, so we're a rap group. It's all good.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And so was that the first time you freestyle, or what's the first time you freestyle where you're like, okay, this

[Rick Ross]

guy can hang, you know, My freestyle skills was never like that. I always wanted to put some thought into it, you know what I'm saying? I had homies who would start just spitting, but that never really impressed me, you know what I'm saying? The dudes I was listening to, they were saying things that was damn near mind blowing. So if I walked up to somebody and somebody was like, yeah, my kick's on, dick's on, dick's on, Rick's on. Yo, chill out, homie.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That's not you.

[Rick Ross]

Nah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Who'd you listen to in fifth grade? Like, at that age?

[Rick Ross]

Shit, I was listening to everywhere. East coast, west coast, down south. It didn't matter. Because you gotta remember, by the time I'm in the fifth grade and I'm listening to Too Short, or if it's Easy E or if it's nwa, it's almost making me feel like I've been to la. Of course, I've never been there, but this is where I could sit in my room and imagine, yo, this is what LA like. The lowriders, the cars, the paint jobs, the gold Daytons, the corner stores.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Wow. They're painting the picture of what LA is like through rap, through music. Wow. So you're. Okay. So you're. You just turned. How old are you? I just saw that you just had your 50th, right?

[Rick Ross]

Just celebrated my 50th. I did.

[Patrick Bet-David]

50th. Happy birthday. Happy 50th is a big deal, man. To go through it. I think after like, 30, everything's by decades. You celebrate every 10 years. 40, 50, 60.

[Rick Ross]

Why not? Why not? It wasn't celebrated.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But if you're in fifth grade. Fifth grade is what, you're 10, 11 years old. So that's 39 years ago. 39 years ago is late 80s.

[Rick Ross]

Gotta be late 80s.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So who's late 80s? Because Tupac hasn't come out yet. Ladies.

[Rick Ross]

No, short is. No, no, no. Tupac hasn't come out yet. So really, it was about. It was about, yo, MTV Raps, right? You know those videos? So after school, I would. As soon as we got out of school at 2:30. Boom. I may have had 30 minutes to get home before your MTV Raps came on. Everything that was on there, I was a fan of. If, if it's east coast, if it's Tribe Called Quest, Busta Rhymes, leader of the new School, Public Enemy ll, whatever it is, you know what I'm saying? Because I'm. I don't fell in love with it for the music, the creative expression, the fashion, everything. The videos, the artwork, the graffiti, the cars. That shit grabbed me from every angle. It was like an octopus.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It was it sudden, like in 5th grade ish. Or was it.

[Rick Ross]

It was already gone from, you know, me first hearing music.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What are. For me? There's three songs I listen to where I, you know, all of a sudden I had to stop. I'm like, I cannot believe I'm hearing a voice like this. But what was it for you? Maybe one of the hip hop songs where you, you listen to. You're like, this is just different than anything else I've ever in my life. Especially when you were young.

[Rick Ross]

It was phenomenal. It was amazing. So growing up in my household, my mom played Johnny Taylor every weekend. Every time we was in the car, we listened to music. So I was just exposed to music from before I could even recall. So when you listen to my sounds, the Maybach music, live instrumentation, feeling that expensive orchestra feeling sound, that's what that come from me listening to old soulful music, R B. That was before I could even talk. So by the time rap music, you know, came into play, it was. I understood and could blend them both

[Patrick Bet-David]

rap and R B, of course.

[Rick Ross]

So right now, if I go through my playlist right now, you would. At the top might be Fleetwood Mac. Then it might go to goddamn DJ quick. Then it might go, you know, it's

[Patrick Bet-David]

just anything you or 90s R B,

[Rick Ross]

man, I listen to everything.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Everything. Yeah, yeah. 90s R B in my opinion, was the best R B.

[Rick Ross]

That's easily. I understand that, but it's easily debatable.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What would you put comparable to the 90s R B?

[Rick Ross]

Man, you gotta go back to old school Anita Baker. You gotta go back to. It's like, who do you put next to Anita Baker? Who do you put next to who? You. Who do you compare from the 90s to? To that when. When I think about the sound of Shade. Who could you compare?

[Patrick Bet-David]

She's one of a kind.

[Rick Ross]

Thank you.

[Patrick Bet-David]

She's one of a kind.

[Rick Ross]

Thank you.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I wish she would perform more. But that's why when she does it, I read Somewhere that she doesn't like and I understand. Yeah, she.

[Rick Ross]

She's one of those pure artist. Oh, my God. We got a protector with all that.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Have you ever met her?

[Rick Ross]

Of course not.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Or you haven't?

[Rick Ross]

Of course not.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You answered that quickly.

[Rick Ross]

Of course.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Intentionally, you don't want to meet generally?

[Rick Ross]

No, never. That Rose would have had a collaboration with Sade if I met her. Stop out of winning. Got us a matcha.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So would that be at the top of the list as a collaboration?

[Rick Ross]

Of course. In human life form.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Wow.

[Rick Ross]

That's the music. That's what I'm trying to talk about. I grew up to, you know, beautiful sounds. Sounds that if you close your eyes, it's like you could see them in color. And that's what Sade does for me.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I agree. What's your favorite Sade song? I never thought we're going to talk Sade today. That was not in my top 50 list today.

[Rick Ross]

It's too many to list for Shade. You to me, you could just go shade's greatest hits and let it go.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I fully agree.

[Rick Ross]

Just leave that alone. Play that. That's for anybody listening.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I agree.

[Rick Ross]

You pull up Shade's greatest hits and fall back. Do yourself one by one.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It's never as good as the first time.

[Rick Ross]

Cherish the day without a doubt.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Jazz.

[Rick Ross]

First time. Number one. Never good as the first time.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Never as good as the first time.

[Rick Ross]

Greatest song they ever created.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And. And she's telling you the story. And I believe her. I believe what she's telling me. But there was a part about her where, you know, she gets uncomfortable every time she would announce a concert, it would sell out within, like, the first, you know, few minutes, you know, because the world wanted to watch her. Imagine how many babies have been born to Sade, you know? So who would be your two on the list? If Sade is one, who would be two or three that you haven't collaborated with yet?

[Rick Ross]

Well, I have collaborated with Mary J. Blige, but most definitely what Sade does, what Anita Baker does, that's too easy. Anita Baker most definitely for Rose is like, you know what I mean? It's different. So I just. Listener, you know,

[Patrick Bet-David]

you just listen to Anita. Anita Baker.

[Rick Ross]

Yes, I listen. You know, like I say, my playlist is. Is different. But when I'm thinking of these voices and Rick Ross collaborations, without a doubt, Sade is number one on the list. Her voice, her sounds. For her to do a concert, all she has to do is come out in a white gown, no shoes, and just sit down Indian style.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, she already visualized. And the.

[Rick Ross]

Oh, I can see video.

[Patrick Bet-David]

The collaboration.

[Rick Ross]

It's too easy. It's too easy. I see.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I mean, if you're putting it out there, they're probably going to reach out to you.

[Rick Ross]

Oh my God.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Have you ever reached out to her?

[Rick Ross]

Oh, my God. I would love to go get you a cup of matcha. It's true. It's true. Even though we. We're smiling. Shot a. I mean it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What was the movie that her song was a big hit in with Demi Moore and Robert Redford? Indecent Proposal. Decent Proposal. Have you ever seen A Decent Proposal? Do you remember that movie 30 years ago?

[Rick Ross]

I'm not sure I remember the title, but that might have been out of Rosie Luke 30 years ago.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. There's a scene where, I mean, the main song is Ordinary Love in the movie and it's shade.

[Rick Ross]

It makes sense. Whoever scored the music was very smart.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, right. Yeah. Are you a movie guy as well? You watch a lot of movies?

[Rick Ross]

I love movies.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What are your favorite movies?

[Rick Ross]

Well, my favorite film, Quentin Tarantino was

[Patrick Bet-David]

my favorite director, so Reservoir Dogs, all of that.

[Rick Ross]

Kill Bill.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Reservoir Dogs was the first one he did. You know, he did it for $400,000. A guy made like 20 million bucks on reservoir Dogs. He made more than that on Reservoir Dogs.

[Rick Ross]

Of course. Shit was legendary.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, Reservoir Dogs is phenomenal.

[Rick Ross]

Think about it. All they had was black and white suits on the whole time. In a warehouse.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, in a warehouse.

[Rick Ross]

That's it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Crazy. So my. My sister's husband is trying to impress my dad. So he comes over to the house, he says, oh, I got a movie from Blockbuster. You picked a movie. And he brings Reservoir Dogs. I don't know if you've seen Reservoir Dogs, Rob. I mean, it starts off with four 500F bombs. And my dad's like, what kind of a son in law brings a movie like this for the first time to impress me?

[Rick Ross]

He was smart.

[Patrick Bet-David]

He was smart. They're still together.

[Rick Ross]

That's what I'm trying to tell you.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So he chose CX Shout out to you if you remember that you brought the movie Reservoir down.

[Rick Ross]

It was Smart man number success.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So Quentin Tarantino.

[Rick Ross]

Without a doubt.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Who else? I know you've called yourself Renzel. So are you a Denzel guy or.

[Rick Ross]

Oh, Denzel most definitely.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Favorite Denzel flick.

[Rick Ross]

He number one. All new drinks are now at McDonald's

[Patrick Bet-David]

with refreshers like the Strawberry Watermelon Refresher

[Rick Ross]

and the Mango Pineapple Refresher with popping

[Patrick Bet-David]

Boba to crafted sodas like the Sprite

[Rick Ross]

Berry Blast with berry flavors and cold foam. Who knew ice cold drinks could be so fire? Try them all now at McDonald's.

[Patrick Bet-David]

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[Rick Ross]

it's most, I mean we've watched him be a young man all the way to he's, you know, 70, 70 years old still, you know, having fights on the trains and fighting the mafia, you know, hits and, and there's not many people that could pull that off. And you actually enjoy watching it?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, I can.

[Rick Ross]

I, I enjoy it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I, I don't, I don't know if he's acting like I I think Denzel was one decision away from being a very different person in his life. Somebody got ahold of him early.

[Rick Ross]

Oh he makes it clear though. He's been very open and about open about the life he lives. But Denzel at his age and still be the Equalizer. You're a. Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Each one of them are better than the other one.

[Rick Ross]

I love them.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Rick Ross]

American Gangster 2 might be my favorite.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Two.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah. Equalizer 2 maybe my favorite.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. Is to the one where he walks up to the guys that took advantage of the girl and walks upstairs to their room and knocks on the door and gives a card and a woman. That's two. Yeah. Yeah.

[Rick Ross]

Two was he's revenge when he was the Uber driver.

[Patrick Bet-David]

When he was the Uber driver. Yeah. That's two. I Confuse it with one and two. Yeah, two is intense emotion. Like it's, you know, you know. Who's the other guy, Rose, that does the revenge movies? What's the guy's name? That's taken. What is the guy's name? Oh, he does these revenge movies.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, he. Another 75 year old at a kick in the door. Kill eight motherfuckers.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. You know, allegedly he's with Pamela Anderson now. So they're. They're. I don't know if you heard about that.

[Rick Ross]

Pamela's smart.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Tell me why.

[Rick Ross]

Well, because she with Liam. She got nice boobs. She keep her boobs, right?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rick Ross]

She with Liam.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It's important. You gotta keep them straight.

[Rick Ross]

You gotta be smart.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. So Pamela smart.

[Rick Ross]

Oh, my God, she's smart. Shout out to the smart women.

[Patrick Bet-David]

She one time did an interview. It was a very weird interview, but, you know, it was her son is, I think, sitting next to her at the time. He was 28. And she's talking about how at the peak of it, when she would go and date guys and they would have sex, as if they learn how to have sex through porn. And she said she had to tell men, this is not how I like to have sex. I want you to have sex with me. I don't want you to think this is a porn movie. So she said the influence of porn has on young men confuses them. What women actually like. What do you think about that?

[Rick Ross]

I think that was. Like I said, she's smart. She was expressing herself and she wanted to be direct on what she wanted, so she wanted to make sure she enjoyed herself instead of someone just joy riding around and she not enjoy it. I like that. That was a great idea.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It's an interesting perspective.

[Rick Ross]

But when she's, you know, with a boss, you know, you do shot caller

[Patrick Bet-David]

and Liam's the boss. You're saying you.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, yeah, without a doubt, me.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So shot caller is whatever the shot caller says is what we're doing.

[Rick Ross]

Oh, most definitely. Even though she's going to be fine, you're going to be happy, baby.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Have you ever met Pamela Anderson or.

[Rick Ross]

No, I don't recall. I've been to a few, you know, red carpets, this and that.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Rose, your. Your book, it's. It's slightly different. It's, you know, it opens up with, you know, the flight. You're, you know, going through a midlife crisis. You're going through a challenge at the time. So, you know, maybe share a little bit of the inside of what got you to point of realizing you're going through midlife crisis. What events led to that? Because you've made the money, you've had the house, you've had the cars, a lot of them. You've traveled, you've had hits after hits after hits. You know, a source, man of the year, back to back, nine Grammy nominations. You know, you live in one of the biggest houses with 350,000 gallon pool, if I'm not mistaken, one of the biggest pools in America, the one in Atlanta. You've lived a big life. So at what point do you say after all this, I'm hitting midlife crisis? How does that happen?

[Rick Ross]

That's when your life is not based on your achievements. None of the swimming pools, the 300 acres. That isn't what you for myself based my life or my level of success or that. That doesn't determine what I'm satisfied with. So when you're a person like myself who still has that, that fire burning, you still have to be creative and creative in a way where you've challenged your greatest work. So that's where you me talking about a rut or a midlife crisis coming in at. That's me creating music. And you know where music was at at that time. You know, it was a lot of more rappers singing than rappers rapping. The sounds, the melodies, the production, the 808s, the drums. You know, I love heavy rap music. You know, this is expensive dope boy music that Ricky Rose. You know, I rap for the ones that want to. You know, that plush lifestyle, that's the music that I was making. And at the time it felt like the game wasn't ready for that. So that's when I began challenging myself. And what can I create that the streets is going to appreciate? And so that's where the book come into play at. And you know, I'm releasing my album June 12, next month, set in stone. Because I've put together a body of work that's going to challenge every album I've ever released.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Body. That's going to be tough. You think it's going to challenge every album you've ever released?

[Rick Ross]

Without a doubt. Or I would not have released it. That's what I'm talking about for myself. I don't want to. I could just rap if I wanted to, but I'm not here for that. Rosa. Boss, you know what I'm saying? This is legacy. So when I say set in stone, it's not just paper and pen. No, this is something that be discussed hundreds of years from now. What Ricky Rose doing?

[Patrick Bet-David]

What does the 50 year old Ricky Rose know that the 30 year old or the 40 year old didn't know

[Rick Ross]

or the 50 year old Rose? No. Boy, you on a hell of a pace, you know what I'm saying? You're gonna hit a billion, you know what I'm saying? The 40 year old rose was just understanding what it's like to be wealthy. Now. How do you grow from there? What's next? Okay, you have a estate with a hundred rooms with the largest residential pool on 300. And where do you go next? These are all the questions that myself, I'm going down the list and challenging myself. Okay, that's when I bought another piece of property on Star island for 37 million, put another 25 million in it. I had two offers of, of a hundred million before it was even completed. Right across the street from me, Ken Griffin building something worth a billion. So once again it's, we're talking about investments. How do you elevate? That's what the music, that's with the brands, Luke Belair, the potato chips, the books, everything that I'm doing. I want to challenge myself. So that's where I came to West. No more just being comfortable being known as a top five lyricists in the game. Now. Let's, let's go, let's go higher.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So next is billionaire status for you. That's the next phase, without a doubt. What excites you at this phase? What gets you out of bed at this phase? You got the money, you got the house, you got the cars. What excites you now?

[Rick Ross]

Of course, man, once again, it's the challenges I'm loving, I'm accepting. I was just with the Miami Dolphins. I helped roll out the, the schedule, this year's schedule. So we filmed a lot of content. I met, you know, the coaches, the team, the staff, the players, this and that. And you know, hopefully one day I'll become a, a minority owner in the Miami Dolphins.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Oh, really?

[Rick Ross]

Why not? Okay, we thinking big, right?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, that's good. Okay, that's good. I think, I think NFL, the CFO is a good friend of mine, of Miami Dolphins. Chris, he's a tell Chris, Ricky Rose ready? I'll text him right now. I'm gonna. Chris, Chris. You want me to tell him you want to be minority Chris?

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, start in minority.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So let's just text him right now.

[Rick Ross]

Send him a text right now.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, I'm going to do it right now.

[Rick Ross]

Let them know Ros got the money.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay, so Chris, this is Patrick B. I got a friend of mine that says he wants to be a minority owner of the. Of the Dolphins. A guy named Rick Ross.

[Rick Ross]

Ross. Shout out to Chris.

[Patrick Bet-David]

There you go, Chris. He may want to reach out and become a minority owner. I know you guys. We talked about it last time. Anyway, so minority owner of Dolphins.

[Rick Ross]

Oh, man.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That excites you?

[Rick Ross]

It excites me. Okay.

[Patrick Bet-David]

All right. Favorite sport.

[Rick Ross]

I never imagined being a water boy, but hey, what the hell? For the Dolphins.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, they. I think they're a $7 billion organization, valuation wise. They wouldn't take. Yeah, he bought it for a billion. Oh, nine. What is. Okay. 1% of 12 and a half billion auto valuation today. So 1% on 12 and a half?

[Rick Ross]

No, let's. Let's start at 3%.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So you want 3%.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, let's start at.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So you need 375 million for that.

[Rick Ross]

Okay.

[Patrick Bet-David]

To be 3%.

[Rick Ross]

Okay.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So that's a. That's a good start right there. Now, would you want to be involved. Would you want to be actively involved? Decisions, you know, players.

[Rick Ross]

Rosie, I'm gonna interject myself into the involvement. That's too easy.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Automatically.

[Rick Ross]

What, you think I'm gonna walk around and not be involved? What.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What would you say?

[Rick Ross]

What Advice.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay, so who do you like any. Would you say, let's go get xyz, let's go get this receipt? Is that how you involve. You want to see or you're seeing? More marketing? You know everything.

[Rick Ross]

Rose got a few ideas. Let's be great.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Any players you like? Current players?

[Rick Ross]

Why not?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Who do you like today in the NFL?

[Rick Ross]

The Dolphins.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Player wise?

[Rick Ross]

Malik, our new quarterback.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay, so anything with the Dolphins, Anything pro?

[Rick Ross]

Dolphins. I'm glad you caught that. Chris. Chris. I know.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So you're. You're. You also know the political game. You're. You're.

[Rick Ross]

No, I don't. I know the Dolphins.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You know the Dolphins?

[Rick Ross]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Are you an OG Dolphins fan? Like, you know Dan Marino, Big time OG Receivers man.

[Rick Ross]

Mark Clayton. Mark Duper.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yep.

[Rick Ross]

Of course, of course. And you are you.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Zach Thomas is a set of a legendary 54. Right. Was he 53 or 54? I think 54.

[Rick Ross]

Legend.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. I just saw him the other day at. We were doing a trick or treat on Halloween. He's like, hey, are you pbd? I said, I am. I said, wait, are you Zach Thomas? By the way, he still looks the same.

[Rick Ross]

That's Zach.

[Patrick Bet-David]

He still look. How old is he? 52 years old. He still looks the same.

[Rick Ross]

Zach, real deal.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. Stud of a guy. The guy would run around tackling people. Everybody was frightened of this guy. Nah, you're real baby elephant.

[Rick Ross]

Why not?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. So by the way, are you fully moved back to Miami or are you still going back to Georgia?

[Rick Ross]

No, I got real estate and a few others states, but Miami has always been the spot, you know.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So over 180 days you spend more in Miami.

[Rick Ross]

Without a doubt.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Is that tax purposes or is it because this is.

[Rick Ross]

No, no, it's because it's the sunlight.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Rick Ross]

It's the ocean, it's the breeze, the alkaline air.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, you can keep selling it, by the way. This is, you know. No, it's an easy place to sell.

[Rick Ross]

Thank you. I'm. You throw me the alley hoop.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I got you. You sound like you could run for governor one day in South Florida and

[Rick Ross]

get a bunch of people to move.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Not interested in that.

[Rick Ross]

Dolphins. Now let's get the 3%.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Let's get to 3%. 3% in. So going back to early on when we're talking about fifth grade, tenth grade. So first time. Because when I see the story in 06 or 07, everybody was bidding for you before your song came out.

[Rick Ross]

It was a lot of people who understood my direction. But once I released Every Damn Hustling, that's when the bidding war turned all the way up.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So the bidding wars, after every damn hustling.

[Rick Ross]

Facts.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Got it.

[Rick Ross]

Facts.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And, and who, who did they like? What was it was. So the leverage for you was the fact that you earned a moral authority that I got a hit because you

[Rick Ross]

sold some 200,000 and not just a hit. This is one of the biggest records of the year. Without a doubt. And the streets felt that immediately.

[Patrick Bet-David]

How quickly did life change for you? Was it an overnight thing?

[Rick Ross]

Without a doubt. And what did you feel as soon as the record came out? I understood. That's when every executive in the industry reached out directly.

[Patrick Bet-David]

How did they treat you before it? How did they treat you after it?

[Rick Ross]

Well, you know, it wasn't the way they treated me before it because we had no communication. You know, I was a just an independent local Miami artist. The day I release Every Damn Hustling maybe two weeks later at the most. I had spoke to the top 10 executives in the industry.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What do they tell anyone to call on you?

[Rick Ross]

We want to do business with you.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Open ended, right?

[Rick Ross]

Then what. What do you need?

[Patrick Bet-David]

This is what, this is an 080-606-06. So who are the players at the time? That is it Leor? Is it. Is it Cohen?

[Rick Ross]

Who's Leo? Without a doubt, Leo. But I, I allowed Leora to manage me for a year just because of the conversations we were having in 06.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So who else called? Who were the heavyweights? That.

[Rick Ross]

Everybody. Tom Wally, Tommy Mottola.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Local here or not?

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, shout out to Tommy Mottola. That's my guy.

[Patrick Bet-David]

L A Reid, Tommy Mottola.

[Rick Ross]

Yes, the list goes on. Who was the most attractive? Well, you know, I was pretty. I was pretty frank, you know, straight up, I want the mun yon. Who's coming with the most money, baby. In the first conversations, we began at seven figures. And then just from there, you know, I went, met a few people. Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool. When I sat down with LA Reid and Jay Z, rest in peace to Shaquille Stewart. That's why I closed the deal at Def Jam.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Did they pay more than anybody else or did they sell the dream big?

[Rick Ross]

Oh, everybody had the. It was clear what I ultimately was gonna stop at. It was about the money, but everybody. I made it clear what, what I needed, as in support wise and what my plan was, music wise. And I just wanted them to understand this is not just a one record, one off type of thing. I'm gonna have a classic album, then my second album is going to be this way. So I need everybody to see the vision. This ain't just one record. I know how that go. This is why I'm hot. This is what, you know, all those records came and went. No, this ain't that. This big boy, heavyweight, and I made that clear.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Who, who was. Who was most impressive to you? Where you said, man, if the money was there, I may have gone with them. Or was your mind made up? I'm gonna go with Jay Z, I'm gonna go with.

[Rick Ross]

No, I gave everybody that I sat around with. I had an open door, you know what I mean? We having conversations, we talking business, we talking just moves, you know, how we gonna make this happen?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Was anybody super like, was. Did anybody's approach, Was anyone's approach so memorable they remember till today? Or were they all the same way? Because you're the, you're the guy everybody wants at the time. So they have. Whatever unique presentations everybody did.

[Rick Ross]

That's what I'm saying. Everybody came the way they wanted to come. But let's say Shakir Stewart, Jay Z, L A Reid, we, we spoke a lot more than just music, you know, they understand. You see the potato chips, you see the champagnes is, you know, of course, music was the priority, but I just made it clear this wasn't going to be regular. Did I know it would be 20 years later and we would be having this conversation? Of course not. But I knew this wasn't going to be a one album thing.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Did anyone say anything that turned you off? We like, I'll never do business with those guys.

[Rick Ross]

Not really. Not really because I was just focused on the things that I wanted. And I'm sure a lot of people ain't understanding. I'm sure when I went into flew out to Cali and walked into Tom Wally Mansion, I'm sure he was like, yo, this might be crazy because I am borderline delusional. Of course I am. And if you coming from Miami and your record is every damn hustling and you telling the y' all right off the rip, y' all need seven figures. I'm in your living room and then I'm. I'm eating out your snack bar and, you know, pull me a drink. You know, this rose need some tequila. I'm sure they was, Yo. Yeah, you got ribeye? Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Was. Was Diddy one of them as well. That was because it was everybody at the time.

[Rick Ross]

It was everybody at the time. Without a doubt. One of my homeboys, Big Block, he had a deal with Diddy for Bad Boy South. And I was on a record they released that's Young Jeezy and Boys in the Hood. He had released the album Boys in the Hood. And I was on one of the records on Boys in the Hood. So that's what Diddy heard, you know, heard my skills, was really hearing my flow. It wasn't about popularity. It was really about talent. We didn't have social media, so they. They playing your records. Let me hear what you're talking about. And once everybody heard me, the shit I was popping, they understood this was heavyweight.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Now when. When you're first releasing, every day I'm hustling who owned it? Who owned that one, that specific track?

[Rick Ross]

Well, the producers was the runners, my homeboy Josh, Josh Burke. Shout out to Josh Burke. He was working along with Ted Lucas and Slip n Slide Records. I had signed a deal with Slip and Slide Records, and so he brought me the beat for every damn hustling. And that night I wrote the first verse. Trina had a show in Tampa. I drove up to Tampa just to play that record. And I wrapped the first verse. And I just remember the look that I got from this one individual. A guy looked at me and he had his mouth open and he was just like, damn, do it again. And that's when I wrote the second verse. Went home and recorded it. A week later I released it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So independently yourself?

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, I'm still just, it's, you know, Slipping Slide, an independent record label. But, you know, I recorded it, released it, and everybody had to catch up at that point.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What's the spread and split into revenue

[Rick Ross]

at the time, I don't even recall what the split was because at that time I understood it wasn't based on the split or the percentages then because I was just getting in the door. I just wanted to lock them in and make them commit to supporting and investing just a little bit. And I knew once I was, once I released the music that I was capable of making the big money will come into play.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So that first song, when Jay Z and those guys came and signed you, did they get that song or the first song is owned by someone else?

[Rick Ross]

No, it was, it was owned by me and Slip N Slide Records got it till today. Facts.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And it's still giving you revenue every year. That song Facts. Do you have an idea what that specific song 20 years later is making?

[Rick Ross]

No, it's still a hit. It still shakes the arenas. It still shakes.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Oh yeah. It's one of the greatest songs of all time. Yeah, it's not even close.

[Rick Ross]

But once you accue, once you accumulate a catalog like mine, it's. You're not just looking at one record, you're just looking at the old overall

[Patrick Bet-David]

vibe, you know, so, so pre. So pre, that song coming out. Are. Do you at the time have money in the bank? Are you, you know, you at least have a hundred thousand on the bank? Do you have 50,000 on the back or not yet?

[Rick Ross]

I was most definitely, you know, that's when I was riding around, hustling, doing my thing. I had my BMW, I had my crib already. Two story crib, garage, you know, just, you know, I was doing my thing. But most definitely once I released the record, I got the deal. Seven figures up front. Then that entire year I was doing shows. Three shows a day, five days a week.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Stop it.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, and I was just stacking my money.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Three shows a day, five days a week.

[Rick Ross]

I was on Go.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Good for you.

[Rick Ross]

Everywhere wanted me to stop by. If I got booked in St. Louis, there will be someone else. Can you stop by here before then? Could you come by here after then? Can you come to our restaurant? We'll have you, you know, would you come eat some spaghetti with us? We'll give you 15k just to have a plate of spaghetti and take the pictures and you know, just all of that. So that first year I went crazy. I stacked my money up.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What's the, what's the first big thing you bought and what's the one thing you bought that was the first dumb purchase you made?

[Rick Ross]

You know, my whole thing was I like to dump lumps in the real estate. You know, that was some game. Like I said, my mom been gave me that type of game. So of course I always spent money. I always indulged in jewelry and, you know, whips and cars. But for me it was, it was, believe it or not, valuable investments.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Valuable investments, right.

[Rick Ross]

I got returned for my jewels. It was, it was, it became one of those things. People were paying me to come and they, it's almost like they just wanted to look at me and take a picture of me like, yo, this is really real. You know what I'm saying? And then when I get to Rose. Did you wear that? The ring, the this, you know, it's almost like, yo, it was different. It was different, it was different. I was a different situation before.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Every day I'm hustling. Who knew in Miami that there's something that's gonna happen with you? I mean, because Miami's got names as well. It's got a lot of good names that came out of here.

[Rick Ross]

Right, right, right. Who knew?

[Patrick Bet-David]

There's something special about every damn hustling before.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, Luke knew. DJ Khaled knew. If you was a local rapper, if you was a local artist, they knew the big boy in the city is Rose. Now, was the, is the country ready for this? Is the rap game ready for this? Because once again, we come from, you know, a party city, beats us 130 miles, got on bikinis, you know, just all of that. And I'm talking about getting money, I'm talking about real estate, I'm talking about mansions, you know what I'm saying? I want jets and shit. I want to do a lot of different investments which was, you know, a lot different from the norm.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Would you say if Biggie would have lived on, he would have been a dream selling rapper instead of like correcting an injustice like Tupac, because Tupac talked about the problems. Biggie sold a dream.

[Rick Ross]

You know, they both, to me, they both, you know, they both was the great set, the end of the spectrum and they balanced the game out. You know, we, we both, they both made it clear what the value of family was also what wealth was like big, most definitely, you know, painted that image in that picture. Those Versace button ups and you know, but, but at the End of the day, it's about going to get it. So they both was telling you to go and get it. You got to invest in yourself. You got to make it happen. You know what I mean?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Tupac apparently never really made money when he was doing it. He made some money, but apparently he never made a lot of money at the time. Hip hop was different.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, you know what was unfortunate to me was the fact that they both were really with kids, man, you know, you 23 years old, 24 years old, you know, and I'm speaking for both of them, you know what I'm saying? You lose your life you didn't give you, you. They both were priceless. If they both lived a long, healthy life, they both would be. I'm talking about. It's unbelievable how much money they generated. Multiple billions, both of them billions and billions.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That's a good point because your, yours first was 30. So probably at that time your you know how the game is played and how people get taken advantage of. So you're probably tougher to take advantage of than maybe they were.

[Rick Ross]

You most definitely got to learn it's not one that's with you. When this, you, you, it's time to talk about, you know, record deal. This, that, this, that. It's no. 1, yo, you just gotta stress the important things to you. Yo, you gonna provide the studio. You're gonna do this for me. Yo, just be ready. And in my mind, I already know, yo, I'm gonna get a major label to come step into and take over this situation. And we gonna tax them. The local label is cool. I get it, I get it, I get it. So that 30k advance for six albums, I wasn't tripping. I get it. But what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna stir and create so much disruption and create so much value where the big boy is gonna come in and say, yo, Rick Ross, boom. We gonna give you 5 million. What you want to do?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Who, who was, who was in your ear? Who was whispering in your ear, hey, be careful. They're gonna try to do this. Hey, ask for this.

[Rick Ross]

Who?

[Patrick Bet-David]

What?

[Rick Ross]

Who played a magical role? Nobody really, nobody cared about that. It was about the music for one, first and foremost, before the record deal even important. Do you really have something that's valuable, Right. Or you would be like the other thousands of artists who get record deals in six months later, you never heard from them again.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You said about the one hit wonder.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, and even the ones that never had one hit. You get a record deal, but you don't have one hit now what? You were fortunate. The one hit wonders were fortunate that they had one hit. I know so many people that got signed and never had a hit. Now you just move on. So now that's the focus when you're a young artist. It wasn't even about the record deal. I want to make it a record and I want to create a record that the world wants to hear.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So. So you are both on the talent side and you're also. You're a triple threat because you have the personality, you got the business experience, and you're a talent. So Jay Z's one. There's not too many of you guys that you also have an ear. What's the recent movie that came out by Denzel where he. He was known as having the best ear in the game, Right.

[Rick Ross]

He was a CEO in the game, Right. It was ASAP Rocky in the film.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Right? ASAP Rocky.

[Rick Ross]

I watched the film maybe a month.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What was it called? What was it called? It's highest to lowest. Yeah. Which by the way, interesting because, you know, and he talks about how he's. But he was not a guy that was a talent. He was just an ear. He would be able to see it.

[Rick Ross]

So for you, an executive.

[Patrick Bet-David]

An executive, exactly. So how much of it is personality? How much of it is talent? How much of it is connections? How much of it is work ethic? How much of it is your fashion? How much of it is your look? Where would you rank it? When you look at somebody and say, this is a guy, because you've had who you've had French Montana, you've had Meek, you've had a lot of guys.

[Rick Ross]

Right? Right, right.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What do you look for?

[Rick Ross]

I think first and foremost for me, what's most valuable to me is how dedicated are you. Are you willing to work 15 hours a day when it's time to. Are you willing to do that? Because you could have the fashion, you could have the style, you could have the music, but if you're not really dedicated, it won't last. You know how many artists that's talented and gifted and they're gone. They're gone. And why is that? You got to have a consistent understanding, that passion as the burn. Because when I first got in the game, I wasn't the most talented, I wasn't the most this, I wasn't first in this. I was never the perfect this, that, this, that. No. But what I was, was the ultimate hustler. We not gonna stop until we get this done. We not gonna Stop until we make this amazing. We gonna stay in here until this sounds like it's. Yeah. So that's what separated me from the others. So that's what I look for when it's time for me to really appraise another artist or look at another artist and the gift in it. You know, how consistent are they?

[Patrick Bet-David]

How long does it take for you to realize?

[Rick Ross]

Not long, guys.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Got it. Or not.

[Rick Ross]

Not long.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What do you look for?

[Rick Ross]

I mean, once you present yourself. Yo, that's what I'm here for. This, the music, this to this. This to this. Okay, then the rest of the questions come with it. Do you have to. The video to go with it? Is social media on goal? Is. Do you have a team? Is this. Is it just you by yourself? Is, you know, are you already generating income? Can you buy your own outfits? This, that, every. It's a long list.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You're asking all those questions.

[Rick Ross]

No, it's just. No, you have to. I have to see it, Rose. Don't got time to ask you. That's just like if you walking into the room and you step over the paper on the floor, if you're not going to pick it up and make it, make the situation better, there's no need for you. I'm not asking you nothing.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Got it?

[Rick Ross]

I have to see it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Are you calling around as well to learn about the individual or.

[Rick Ross]

No, No. I gotta see it. I gotta feel it. Streets gotta call me.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So who. Who's the biggest risk you took on?

[Rick Ross]

Everybody. It's all a risk because you never know who's going to really break, who's gonna really pop, who's going to really work. You. You might sign a. A super talented individual. And guess what? He has twins on the way now, and he doesn't have time for the studio. He doesn't have time for the interviews, the podcast to this, to that. Guess what it's called. It's over for him unless he goes and prove otherwise. But you have to be totally dedicated to this.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Did you watch a game last night with Wemby and okc?

[Rick Ross]

I did.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What did you think about Wemby last night?

[Rick Ross]

He was cool. He was cool.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You're not a. I'm assuming you're not a San Antonio fan. Like, that's not your team. You're probably a Heat fan.

[Rick Ross]

I'm a Heat fan, without a doubt. But I thought OKC was going to pull it off.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I thought so as well. What'd you think about that three? The three he hit from the. I don't Know if you saw the three hit in overtime or, you know, fourth quarter, Wemby all the way from the logo. Did you see that or no, I missed it. Oh, let me tell you, he hit this. He walks up and he just hits it. And they interview him afterwards. Okay, Rob, can you pull up the interview afterwards with Wemby? And there's a reason why I'm asking this question, by the way. The CFO already responded, and he says, small world. I actually sat with his son at super bowl several years ago. The social media the other day was incredible. He even made Stephen Ross very funny. Okay, have fun, my friend. God bless. So there you go. So I don't know what that means, but yeah, you know what he's talking about.

[Rick Ross]

You'll text him again?

[Patrick Bet-David]

You want me to text him again?

[Rick Ross]

Rose, want to talk about a 3%?

[Patrick Bet-David]

All right. I just want to let you know he wants to talk about 3% of the dolphins. That's what he wants to talk about.

[Rick Ross]

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Patrick Bet-David]

All right, so I'll put you guys in contact.

[Rick Ross]

Too easy.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So there's an interview that he does, and I want to get your take on this. Wemby after the game, there's a question they ask them. Yeah, that's the one right there. Okay. Can you make that bigger, Rob? And then turn on? Go forward. When we set out to create a shoe that blends comfort, function, and luxury, we had the choice to make it fast. We had the choice to make it cheap. We chose neither. Instead, we chose Tuscaniro. We chose true Italian craftsmanship. Each pair touched by 50 skilled hands. We chose patience, spending two years perfecting every detail. And we chose the finest quality at every step. Introducing the future. Looks bright. Collection. Not rushed. Not disposable. Not ordinary. Rather intentional. Luxurious. Timeless. Some follow the noise. Bloomberg follows the money. Whether it's the funds fueling AI or crypto's trillion dollar swing, there's a money side to every story. Get the money side of the story. Subscribe [e-mail].

[Rick Ross]

Your mind at all knowing that Shea

[Patrick Bet-David]

had got that award and you were

[Rick Ross]

in the top three for it and, you know, did any part of tonight feel personal? Some of your facial expressions kind of

[Patrick Bet-David]

look like you were really, really going for it. Yeah, for sure. Everything you just said, if that was

[Rick Ross]

in your mind at all.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So this guy had a chip because they gave the MVP yesterday to SGA and he had a pretty good season. How much does a chip play a role in a guy willing to go until he gets what he wants? Or you don't think there's a.

[Rick Ross]

And when you say chip, what exactly

[Patrick Bet-David]

do you chip on a shoulder like you're coming up and somebody didn't believe in you, somebody said no to you. You know, someone who maybe due to favoritism, got something that you felt you were doing better. How much does that chip like right here? Wemby feels like he's the best player in the world and he wants to keep getting better. They're the champions. He's the two time mvp, but he responds this way to say, look, that was it. And then later on he says, I'm gonna. I plan on winning a lot of MVP trophies in my career, but he wants to be a champion right now. So the DNA. How do you read the DNA of a guy that's willing to pay the price and he's super competitive?

[Rick Ross]

Well, Wimby most definitely played a major role in them pulling it off, without a doubt. So he's exemplifying him, really wanting to chip him, really wanting to be great. But once again, just like all ladders of success, he has a lot more to prove. Every room we step in, there's going to be people in that same room that doubt you. You, regardless of how many points you shoot, how many dunks you make, you know, because the same way he hit that three in overtime, those couple finger rolls he missed, those Caruso took a steal from, you know, it's a lot of people that's gonna focus on that. So you still got to prove yourself to everybody that's sitting back watching. And most definitely, when you own a global platform, that's what it is. This is a competitive game. It's called life.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Who's the first big name that targeted you when you started getting momentum? Who stuck? Because, you know, there's a lot of beef in rap and you've had many of them. You've had 50 Cent, Drake.

[Rick Ross]

It wasn't no one that really targeted me. It was. It's a good chance I initiated it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Got it right. Intentional.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Have you ever read the book 40 Laws of Power?

[Rick Ross]

I have. I know Robert Green personally.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Great guy. He's a friend.

[Rick Ross]

He just posted my new book that I just released for me. Thank you, Robert. Most definitely.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. I mean, so do you think there's a lot of that going on in hip hop? 40 laws of power, the things he talks about.

[Rick Ross]

It may be a little bit of it, but it'll be a lot more success. It'll be a lot more wealth. If they was really focusing the way they Should.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What do you mean?

[Rick Ross]

I mean, it's a lot of. It's a lot of up things going on. It's a lot of losses being made.

[Patrick Bet-David]

In hip hop, of course.

[Rick Ross]

Life, period. But most definitely in hip hop, we see people going to prison every day, see people losing their lives every day, talking about getting to the money. 48 laws of power. Playing by the rules, being great.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So you. You have a rare combination because early on, a lot of, you know, when the story came out, you were a correctional officer for what, the 18 months or whatever you did 16 months, 17,

[Rick Ross]

much less than that. But whatever the story was, that they're half a billion late, man.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Half a billion late. Yeah, but you have a street life and you have a little bit of that. How does that happen?

[Rick Ross]

That's Rosie being a hustler. There's not many people that could understand that.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I think I actually can because there's an element of understanding the law if you go to it. Was that the intention originally?

[Rick Ross]

Not at all, not at all. Just hustling, Just hustling.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I mean, look, I. I read somewhere that you were making 23,000, 28,000 as a. As a correctional officer, so it's not like it was paying very well.

[Rick Ross]

Oh, man, I was hustling, man. And, you know, that's how hustlers respond to that. It's much deeper than rap, baby. Much, much deeper than rap.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Tell me more, tell me. When you say much deeper than rap,

[Rick Ross]

I. I'm letting you know that's how hustlers, a boss like myself, respond to that. It's not much more to even say they missed that part of my life. They missed it. The.

[Patrick Bet-David]

The part about the hustling.

[Rick Ross]

Oh, man, it's too easy.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Which, which part? That they missed it or the life was too easy?

[Rick Ross]

Oh, they most definitely missed it. Now what they could do is listen to the music. They could read the books and just close their eyes and just imagine

[Patrick Bet-David]

what it was like.

[Rick Ross]

Oh, man, what it most definitely got it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And how important is the game of hip hop? I came up in LA. I lived in LA 20 something years. So for me, my hip hop was RBL, posse, rapping forte too short. Master Ace. I don't know if you remember Master Ace, the Inc Ride, right? It was shout out to Master Ace too. Yeah, he's phenomenal. It was. Who's the first Mexican rapper that got a half a million dollars from Suge? The east side Rendezvous. What was his name? My God, I can't. But Kid Frost, I don't know if you remember Kid Frost?

[Rick Ross]

I do remember Kid.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It was a lighter shade of brown, if you remember. Lighter shade of brown, maybe you don'. It was. It was these guys and on the R and B side, it was, you know.

[Rick Ross]

This is Larasa Jodeci.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, this is for La Raza. That's right. That was it. That was a great hit. Right? And there was almost how. How big of a role does it play that you. You have street credit, that you've. You've had that life? How big of a role does that play?

[Rick Ross]

I think first and foremost, the music is the most important part, because these, you know, the. I can only imagine. I don't see really a lot of street in the ones that's making the music. They could discuss it, they could, you know, speak on behalf of where they from, they city, this or that. But as far as the music, first and foremost, now what goes on behind the scene and how you move. Are you really a boss? Are you really, you know, strong enough to be able to make these moves in the streets? Accepted, you know, that's something totally different.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That's some totally different. So the street accepts the street credit or not.

[Rick Ross]

The Streets for me will most definitely play a role in Streets, you understand? The Streets gonna play a role in the streets. And if you're an artist, first and foremost, your music, your craft and your gift is what's most important, how far you go after that, that's between you and the Streets.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Rose, who did, who did you meet in the game? Because you give me the vibes of very driven, competitive guy facts. Yeah. Who did you meet in the game where you said, these are the five real OG players? These are the guys I'll be competing with the next couple decades.

[Rick Ross]

You know, for me, in the way I move, I necessarily don't even pit myself against or competing against the Legends. So to me, that's like me saying I would compete against Big. I would never do that.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I don't see you as that.

[Rick Ross]

I would never compete against Pac. I would never, never compete against Jay Z. I would never compete against, you know, Luke Records in no kind of aspect, because that's where I got the game from. You know what I'm saying? That's the love and the respect that I have. But anybody else, it's not really nobody that's on my level for me to go against.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It's nothing to go against nobody at your level.

[Rick Ross]

No.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So you, you're given the praise to Jay Z, to the ones who raised

[Rick Ross]

me, the ones who, who showed me the Game. You know what I'm saying?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rick Ross]

The ones who I. I really absorb the most game from. You know what I mean? When I was listening to two short records, you know, when I run into these dudes, when I. I just. I just announced yesterday that Scarface is performing at my car show June 13th. It's like Scarface. I would never go against Scarface. I. You know, he got 20 records out. I listened to all of them. I bought them all.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Didn't he do something with Tupac?

[Rick Ross]

Of course.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I got keys coming from overseas. Right. Custody. No, no, no.

[Rick Ross]

That's all eyes on me with Tupac. But they most definitely.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Oh, I remember this song. What's the song with him and Tupac? Rob, can you pull up the song Scarface did with Tupac? The moment I heard the lyrics, I know which one it is. Smile. Smile. Oh, man. Smile. Is that the one?

[Rick Ross]

That's it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That's the one.

[Rick Ross]

That's one of them.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Wow. Because they did a couple of them, right?

[Rick Ross]

Facts.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That's 97, 30 years ago. So score. So. So you. Would you consider yourself a fan of the game as well? Like you said, listen to his. So who do you listen to? Who are people that you listen to that maybe they're even current players?

[Rick Ross]

I just told you, my playlist is old school, as well as just the dope classic. You know, I just mentioned. I mentioned DJ Quick earlier. So from the west coast to the east coast, of course, all down south.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But, like, did you listen to Andre 3000 outcast?

[Rick Ross]

Of course. That's crumbling Herb. You can't. It's nobody that could not listen to the Outcast, you know what I'm saying?

[Patrick Bet-David]

So that's greatest albums, those guys. That album was just. It's another one of those ones that you just. Just play it. Just let it go, and it just. You can listen to every song.

[Rick Ross]

Of course.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Rick Ross]

Trick Daddy. That's everything my playlist jumped from. You know what I'm saying? My is Rosacea is special. That's just my sound.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Is your playlist public, or is it a private playlist?

[Rick Ross]

I don't even know.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You got to make your playlist public, of course. Is this PM Dawn? Who is this?

[Rick Ross]

Wow.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You know what's my favorite? What a great song.

[Rick Ross]

It's amazing.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You know what's my favorite PM dawn song? Not that one. The other one. What's this one you're playing?

[Rick Ross]

It's epmd. Please listen to my demo. And for, you know, music lovers like myself, I was young when I heard this and realized there wasn't no. No kicks, no drums. It was just a loop. Huh. I don't even know if it's producers that know that

[Patrick Bet-David]

you got to make your playlist public. My kids love the song. Phenomenal song.

[Rick Ross]

The kid's a genius.

[Patrick Bet-David]

The guy. Remember the guy? The skateboard guide with the sky. I don't know if you know which one I'm talking about. That's him, right? He's drinking the grape juice or. What drink was he drinking? What a great song.

[Rick Ross]

This rose playlist.

[Patrick Bet-David]

80s. Good for you.

[Rick Ross]

Wow.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Phil Collins. Phil Collins, yeah. Yeah. Phil Collins just didn't. He just turned 80. I just saw something about Phil Collins turned 70 or 80, something like that. Age 76. Yeah, 75.

[Rick Ross]

This is all. This is my recent play. This ain't recently searched. This ain't this list that I'm playing from. This is something recent. Yeah. This what I'm smoking and riding to on the way here, folks. Falling like rain. So the Rose playlist is. My musical acronym. Is different.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Who's your top five? Top five, all time rappers, Big Pop,

[Rick Ross]

Jay Z, Trick Daddy, 305, Miami. Without a doubt. He spoke for the, you know, he spoke for the ghetto, of course. And we could, you know, we could debate that. That it's too easy.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Who's your fifth? You put Nas in there or you put Andre in there or I'mma put.

[Rick Ross]

I'm happy to say Nas, without a doubt. Yeah. When I say Nas, Nas spoke for that. That militant street, that wise young hustler, you know what I'm saying? He was fly with it, getting to the money young, you know what I mean? So it's a lot of things that go with when I say top five and when I say it, my top five used to change every week when I'm smoking good and what I'm feeling like. So it is like that.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Do you have a top five? 80s? Not even rap, just 80s music. Because you just played an 80s song.

[Rick Ross]

I played a lot of 80s songs.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Rick Ross]

When you go EPMD, when you go Rakim, when you, you know, it's just. It's so difficult for me because when I smoke and I lay back, that is all magical to me. It's magical in a lot of different ways.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Rose, the history with UN50, is it better now? You guys now friends? Like, do you guys talk now or is it still no relationship?

[Rick Ross]

That's a nice alley hoop you just threw me.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But you're gonna take it or you're gonna pass it back?

[Rick Ross]

Oh, I'm a Win by y'. All. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna win by yaman for you. I got you, but nah, homie Wash,

[Patrick Bet-David]

we've never been cool from day one.

[Rick Ross]

No, no. It's big business out here. Big money. He not getting none of that $1,500 episode payment check. That ain't nothing, man.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Never collaborated together.

[Rick Ross]

Nah, I'm sure he would love a ros vibe. I'm sure. I told you. I'mma win bayama this bitch for you. I'm a jump from the free throw, by the way.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Would there ever be a. You ever saw the interview with Shaq and Kobe together? Do you remember the one where they sat across from each other? I think Magic did one with Isaiah where Isaiah cried at the end.

[Rick Ross]

What'd he cry for?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Well, because, you know, Isaiah was upset about some of the things that Magic said, and he felt like he was cut from the 92 Dream Team, that whole thing. You know, he didn't make that dream because of Michael. That was a special dream. Special, yeah.

[Rick Ross]

That was the greatest ever put together.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You ever seen this one with Kobe and Shaq?

[Rick Ross]

No.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Will there ever be a time where Rose will do a sit down with 50?

[Rick Ross]

No. This is a nice alley. Go ahead, finish. I'm a one by. No, I'm a. I'm a shack. This for you. Go ahead and finish it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Would it ever happen with you and 50 sitting down having a conversation? I think the world would watch that.

[Rick Ross]

The first thing I would want to know is what is there to talk about?

[Patrick Bet-David]

This is. This is a big business you guys are a part of. You guys are two of the heavyweights in the business.

[Rick Ross]

I mean, what is that to talk about?

[Patrick Bet-David]

A lot of things to talk about. History, the beef.

[Rick Ross]

What kind of history? That he couldn't dress. That's all I used to tell him. Yo, you can't dress. You're not really getting no money. You don't own your masters. Eminem saved you. Dr. Dre saved you. All the big names. Rose did it himself. I came in through slip and slide. I had to build this myself. And I'm not. I'm not speaking down on him because he live in a two bedroom apartment,

[Patrick Bet-David]

but he lives in a two bedroom apartment.

[Rick Ross]

Two bedroom catch the alley hoop. Now you gotta win by Yama.

[Patrick Bet-David]

This bedroom apartment.

[Rick Ross]

Yes, he does. And if he does, what does that say about him? Come on now. Just the alley. Who? Come on now. What does it say about him?

[Patrick Bet-David]

You're saying 50 lives in a tube. He just did a big Documentary on Diddy that blew up. It was a number one documentary for like weeks.

[Rick Ross]

You just. They just use him. They'll put his name on there, give him 10k and that's it. He don't own any of that.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You think he's taking 10k for that documentary?

[Rick Ross]

What you thought he was getting for power? Google. Google. The. The actors that was in power, they spoke up. They was. They was getting minimums is rough. Yeah. That TV is crazy. Oh my. What did it say? Yeah, what did he say? You let me know. This your alley oop. Now? Don't let me down, Rob.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You can't let me down passing it to you. You got to do the right research.

[Rick Ross]

Let me down.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Can you go to the story? Let's see what the story.

[Rick Ross]

What to say.

[Patrick Bet-David]

There's no way 50 is doing stuff for 10. 10 grand?

[Rick Ross]

Come on, man.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I do know they said they don't pay a lot in this show. Go a little bit lower, Rob.

[Rick Ross]

Notice they talking about the power pay complaints. These are the finales and all that. Come on, man. But this what I'm gonna do for you. This is a nice alley hoop. Just cause you. You finna plug me with the dolphins for you. Just cause of you, I let 50 wash the bottom of my yacht.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You're gonna let him wash the bottom of the yacht?

[Rick Ross]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I mean, you're gonna be that kind.

[Rick Ross]

Only because it's you.

[Patrick Bet-David]

While your level of reading is on a whole different level.

[Rick Ross]

Come on, man.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That's 100 Foot Reaver.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah. I don't like to see nothing green at the bottom. He get the scoot. The goggles.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Rick Ross]

The mouthpiece.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Rick Ross]

The fins on his feet and he could flap like flipper.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Wow. Yeah. Listen, I mean that would be a.

[Rick Ross]

That would be a good business, wouldn't it be?

[Patrick Bet-David]

And you're saying you would. You would pay?

[Rick Ross]

He would get paid. Just like if it was power. He doesn't own power. Yeah, he doesn't own under that. His 10 million seller album. He doesn't own Get Rich or Not Trying. That's why he doesn't promote it. He makes nothing.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But 50's a 200 million dollar guy, is he not?

[Rick Ross]

Stop, don't. Don't lie.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Well, pull it up. So maybe I'm off. I've correct myself.

[Rick Ross]

Really believe in you. Don't threaten the legitimacy of what you have here, Rob.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Pull it up. So we know Omari said he made 150 per episode.

[Rick Ross]

Stop.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay.

[Rick Ross]

That's cat.

[Patrick Bet-David]

All right.

[Rick Ross]

No, that's Cap.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You're Saying he didn't make the 150 per episode.

[Rick Ross]

He said it. I know.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Got on Power, owed 50 cent money. What's 50s net worth? I mean, I thought 50 did.

[Rick Ross]

Don't. Don't do that. Even though this is an alley oop for me, it's. Stop.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You're saying he's not worth 100 million?

[Rick Ross]

No, that was before you. You know, the bankruptcy and all that. Pull up the bankruptcy. Let's see what the bankruptcy say. And how much did he lose on his house, the Mike Tyson house? Show me considerably. Oh. 50 cent bankruptcy case reopened to consider abuse allegations. Wow. He's abusive. Mr. Alley who? Come on, PBD. Come on now.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. Why do you think he's loved? Why do you think he's loved?

[Rick Ross]

Because you loved by who, man?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Fans, Fan base.

[Rick Ross]

Come on now.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You don't think 50 is loved? I mean, both of you guys have had two of the biggest hits ever in hip hop.

[Rick Ross]

Come on now.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Biggest hits ever in hip hop.

[Rick Ross]

Come on now. Let's talk about this abuse in the bankruptcy. The abuse. They said he abused his. The mother of his son. His son hates him. It's crazy. Pull up something that his son said about him. No, this was a nice Alley. Who we. We. 20 minutes in on 50. That's good. I like you. I like you. We. No, homie. His son, 27, is still asking for child support. Okay, okay.

[Patrick Bet-David]

This is who? This is his son.

[Rick Ross]

I don't know, man. I don't know his. You know, I know his. The. His younger son. I met his younger son. I took his youngest son fishing before.

[Patrick Bet-David]

This is when you guys were good.

[Rick Ross]

I call him Bruce Leroy. That's him right there. The little Chinese looking one? Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Did you say the little Chinese looking.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, he looked like Bruce Lee.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Like Bruce Lee Roy.

[Rick Ross]

That's what I call him.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And you took him fishing?

[Rick Ross]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And 50 knew you're taking a fishing.

[Rick Ross]

Oh, no. He may have told his dad like, yo, Rose, you know what I'm saying?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Were you guys ever good, the two of you? Who?

[Rick Ross]

His son.

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, you and 50.

[Rick Ross]

No, his. His. The son mom used to over to be a beyond be on Star Island. And so little man, I've been there.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I got it. Okay, Now I know. I read that story when the mom

[Rick Ross]

be in the house doing whatever she doing. The little man out, you know, got it office to buy 50.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So this is great.

[Rick Ross]

I mean it sounds offered to buy the son a puppy just because I knew Bruce Lee Roy. What? Catch that alley hoop now.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. Don't do me like it is very obvious.

[Rick Ross]

You gotta.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Two of you guys are gonna.

[Rick Ross]

Come on.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I'm telling you.

[Rick Ross]

You gotta. You can't be afraid of a real response from a minion. You cannot be afraid of a response from a minion.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Well, listen, for me, remember, it was pull up.

[Rick Ross]

What came up? Something I saw yesterday. I believe that what he was trying to do. Yeah. Daphne Joy was. Rick Ross calls 50 Cent. Bruce Leroy says he took him. Told you.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Rick Ross]

Not a joke.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Bruce Leroy isn't that kind. Yeah. Very gentle from you.

[Rick Ross]

Imagine if the boss, Rick Ross, taught your son, Bruce Leroy, how to put the worm on the hook.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Rick Ross]

Dope, ain't it?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. Yeah. But. But it's fair to say you guys won't be collaborating anytime soon.

[Rick Ross]

I don't know. Your son might want to go fishing. I'm gonna put him on the boat. Let him go fishing, man.

[Patrick Bet-David]

By the way, how's your relationship with Diddy? Diddy?

[Rick Ross]

I haven't spoken to him.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You haven't spoken to him?

[Rick Ross]

No.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But you. You guys never had issues, right? There was no beef between you and. Yeah.

[Rick Ross]

I told you, my homie Block, you know, release music through Puff. And that's who introduced me really to the industry. Shout out to Block.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Got it. So you're. You're so. To a guy as an outsider that's watching again.

[Rick Ross]

But the important thing here is 50 cent son got to fish.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Rick Ross]

Now on Star island.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It's a very important skill set. At a great location, you could fish anywhere. Star island, those fish, I mean, they got to be. I mean, these 100 million fish in the world.

[Rick Ross]

Thank you. Thank you. Red snappers. You get to see dolphins, right? The dolphins.

[Patrick Bet-David]

King Griffin's billion dollar home.

[Rick Ross]

The dolphins squirt at the top. You know, it's almost, you know, they busting that at the top of their brain. I mean, you get to see that in live, real time.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rick Ross]

That was a nice alley.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Who wasn't. You think. You think the market's open right now for a. Hit him up 2.0?

[Rick Ross]

Hit him up like what?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Like what Tupac did with that. The disc track that. This track that changed the game when that came out.

[Rick Ross]

I think. I think. No, it's nothing like that. That's in that space because Big Drake and Tupac were both on that same level right now. It wouldn't even be exciting because, you

[Patrick Bet-David]

know, you don't put 50 at your level.

[Rick Ross]

Of course not. He's a minion.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Would you put Drake at your level?

[Rick Ross]

No.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You. You're not putting Drake at your level.

[Rick Ross]

No, see, you might be. I could see it in your eyes. You might be confused with the numbers and all of the fake numbers flood the marketplace. 50 something. That ain't nothing. Remember what I told you? The streets are the streets. If Drake was what he thought you. You what you think he was or what he thought he was, he would have been able to clear all this up, address it, and been moved on. He's still suing the label. That's like him. He might sue you for speaking of him on this situation. He might sue you. He might send you a cease and desist.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It would be a compliment.

[Rick Ross]

It's a nice alley. Who.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That's a nice value.

[Rick Ross]

Let him know.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But if it does, I'll definitely text you and I'll say we got to share the legal fees together because you. We would share legal fees together. We get the same lawyer.

[Rick Ross]

No, no, we won't, man. He might sue you. He sued Lucian Grange.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What did Lucian say?

[Rick Ross]

I'm not sure.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Lucian is a heavyweight, though. Lucian is. Oh, I know, but he's got a little bit dark.

[Rick Ross]

When you diss certain people and they can't deal with it emotionally, they're embarrassed, they're humiliated. That's when they sue all of these

[Patrick Bet-David]

people to listen to Iceman, the. The new.

[Rick Ross]

I listened to some of it. My engineer was. It was horrendous.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What do you give it? 0 to 10?

[Rick Ross]

Oh, man, it was. I mean, Pitchfork gave it. I said it was mid mid five. Pitchfork gave it a four point something. Oh, no. But it was like, no one's my friend. You left me alone. No, it's that type of. You got to be a boss out here, man.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So nothing that would be in your new playlist that you were showing, was it anything in my research and hear all of them. I don't know if you got a. You know, but have you personally listened to every single one of the tracks in the new album?

[Rick Ross]

No, I couldn't do it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You couldn't do it?

[Rick Ross]

No.

[Patrick Bet-David]

By which one did you stop? Did you make it to five or six?

[Rick Ross]

I'm not sure. You got to realize when it was going. It's music people that's on my team, that's. I allow them to be a. You could be a Drake fan if you like his music. I don't. I'm not gonna tell you. No. I don't put we not on that type of. Listen to it if you want to listen to it. And I had people that listened to it by the fifth song they came out, they was like damn this wag. And they went back in, listened to it. I'm like, it's not nothing. That's dope. You, you don't hear nothing. Like Jay Z and Alicia Keys, New York. You don't. I say you don't hear none of that. You know this a. Always bringing up Michael Jackson. What a Billie Jean at what a Thriller. What a. And my homies actually sat there. They lost our life for this.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Listen to it.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Are they recovering?

[Rick Ross]

Yeah. Trauma.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Trauma. It's tough.

[Rick Ross]

It is.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It's tough.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah. By the way, when you. When you've been waiting, after you've seen people put ice blocks in the middle of places and promoted and marketed and the world knew what day it was coming out and the came out and, and really, you know, folded.

[Patrick Bet-David]

How is it a performing on the charts? Rob who? I'm not tracking how Iceman, I'm not sure performing on the chart Rose don't. Yeah, well, let's see. Iceman recorded 140.2 million first day Spotify streams officially making the biggest album debut in 2026 so far. The figure has placed immediately pressure on competitors and set a new benchmark for opening. Drake's Janice Shut the Fun has reached number one on Apple Music. So that shows it's doing okay. That's showing it's doing pretty good.

[Rick Ross]

I don't know what you're reading but do me a favor and pull up Spotify. Let's go to the real streaming. Pull up Drake Spotify. I don't. That didn't even have a logo which you was just reading. So you might be an Iceman fan.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I'm not. I've not listened to it. Just so you know. Okay, so how do you go to see where it's ranking?

[Rick Ross]

I'm not sure. I'm talking about the articles that look like the stream. I don't know.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So Rob, why don't you type in Drake Iceman then go to news.

[Rick Ross]

You like Drake? You like Drake? I'm talking about him.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Just so you know. I will tell you this is the fun fact about me. I stop. You know my hip hop stopped in early 2000.

[Rick Ross]

This is not hip hop.

[Patrick Bet-David]

His not hip hop.

[Rick Ross]

No, this is not hip hop. I like how he used the Michael Jordan Michael Jackson glove right around the time the Michael Jackson movie came out. You ride that wave. He know how to ride a wave, but it ain't working.

[Patrick Bet-David]

He does not succeed. Pitchfork gives A Iceman A 4.8 out of 10. Okay, that's not good. Fans react as Pitchfork gives Drake. How important is Pitchfork, by the way, when they score you?

[Rick Ross]

I don't get into scores. My music I've always made was in the streets.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You quoted them though. You said you gave it a mid, but Pitchfork gave it a 4.

[Rick Ross]

8 facts.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So then that means Pitchfork has got credibility in the, in the market.

[Rick Ross]

No, I just told you what was online. Okay, I said mid, which was higher. 5.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So you were being nicer than Pitchfork.

[Rick Ross]

Oh, consider it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay, so let me ask you what to you, what is the last hit? Like you said, we haven't had a Michael J. We haven't had a New York with Jay Z.

[Rick Ross]

And no, when we're talking about big records, you got to understand when you, when you're comparing yourself to Michael Jackson, when you're comparing yourself delivery, he compares

[Patrick Bet-David]

himself to Michael Jackson.

[Rick Ross]

And, and, and, and when you, you listen to people and yo, play me the best five songs. You heard this or that? You hear it. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Does it show ranking on Spotify? I'm actually curious now to see where it ranks on Spotify. How it's done. Oh, they scored a bite. 54 out of 10. Clash 54. So based on weighted average score, 50 out of 100 from 7 critic scores doesn't look like a good score to me. That does not look so. So now yours is coming out June 12th.

[Rick Ross]

June 12th. Set in stone. My new album. Big, huge popping big boy rich boy raps.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That's a sick cover right there, by the way.

[Rick Ross]

Stone Marble.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That is a sick cover right there.

[Rick Ross]

Thank you, O.G. thank you.

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, seriously, that's insane. That's a sick. I saw that one. Nigel. I think it was Nigel that brought it in, right?

[Rick Ross]

Shout out to Nigel.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Nigel somewhere out there. Yeah, Nigel came already.

[Rick Ross]

You already know.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, Nigel came Ready? So what, what should we expect from the new album? Is there any tea? Anything you can tease us with?

[Rick Ross]

He said T down he wanted tea.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Damn.

[Rick Ross]

That's the first time we hear the mother. But no, ain't no tea. You know what I'm saying? What it is though is big boy back on the throne. Ricky Rose. They know what I bring. Sound wise, production wise, collaboration wise. And then my, the points that I make. And once again, it's set in stone and it's challenging to be my best album ever. So you could pre order the album right now online. Set in stone. June 12th. It's on the street

[Patrick Bet-David]

who to collaborate.

[Rick Ross]

Who. Who's collaborating on this will be offended.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You will be offended.

[Rick Ross]

Facts. Okay, Facts.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Any major collaborations in this one?

[Rick Ross]

It's always major. Everything I do is major, big boy. My next single, Imma Drop is Living Large featuring Big X to plug. Yeah, yeah, and you know the sounds. I had my brother DJ Khaled and Drake from Cool and Dre. They was over. I played a few records for him and man, they were so excited. You know, some of the things that we've done, you know what I mean, in the past and the music that I'm making right now is just. I'm happy the streets get to enjoy it, you know what I mean? The music, I make that for the rich minded. You've got to have a certain mindset, big boy.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, but by the way, what's this story with you trying to climb Mount Kalamanjaro?

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, I wanted to do something different. So that's what we was talking about at the top of the book. Me doing something different. Like, yo, let's. Let's challenge ourselves. And of course, it never happened. My doctor said, you crazy.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Did you start. Did you at least go to it?

[Rick Ross]

You know, I've been there. I've, you know, but I've never went up, you know, I mean, shout out to the homies. And my homies, last time I went there and I told them I was gonna go up to the. The top of the mountain, and my doctor said, no, you're not gonna walk up there, smoke weed and your hip give out or something. So my mom and my sister, they co signed it and I was. So we canceled it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So never. By the way, which do you prefer more, you know, smoking grass or cutting grass? Because I heard a story about you guys when you bought the house, you guys had your friends just cutting for two days.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Why cutting grass?

[Rick Ross]

I. I love being outdoors. I'm an outdoorsman. I have buffaloes, I have cows, I have dogs.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Did you say you have buffaloes?

[Rick Ross]

Facts. You see, I put on my cowboy hat, I got on Amex 95s with a hoodie on, with a G shock watch on. I probably got 10 joints rolled up. You see that tractor? I put tents on it. I hooked my Blue 2 up, my Bluetooth up. That shit is over. Can you imagine what it's like? I'm a John Deere champion.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Did you say buffaloes? You literally have buffaloes in your property?

[Rick Ross]

Big time. One of my buffaloes done got away.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Wait, your buffalo got away? Like it left the property?

[Rick Ross]

Yeah. Jumped, boom. Broke the top half of the gate, jumped out. My neighbors, they had to call, you know, and I had to send my homies over there to go get my buffalo.

[Patrick Bet-David]

How do you get a buffalo back?

[Rick Ross]

That's it right there. That's my buffalo.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Does he have a name?

[Rick Ross]

Timbuktu.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Timbuktu. It's a good name.

[Rick Ross]

Y' all, look at this here. So look, that's, that's one of my cows. One of my cows was with the, the buffalo. So I love being outdoors, you know, So I cut grass.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You joking about.

[Rick Ross]

No, If I have the time, I cut grass. I ain't had time in the last year, but I done cut trees, down, grass, all that.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, Ju Julius was telling me he's got livestock. I'm like, what are you talking about? Says, yeah, this guy's got animals here. So. So it's a 328, 22 acre property. 54,000 square feet of living space, 109 rooms, movie theater for 135 people, dining room to accommodate 100 guests, bowling alley, recording studio, baseball field, tennis court, handball court, seven stall barn, and a 350,000 gallon swimming pool. Why buy such a small house?

[Rick Ross]

Great investment. Bought it for 5.9 million. Last time it was appraised, it was over 30. I filmed over what, three dozen films. It got to the point where we, we began charging the scouters just to come look.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So it's, it's three films on the property.

[Rick Ross]

How many?

[Patrick Bet-David]

It's been in three films.

[Rick Ross]

You said over damn near three dozen.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Three dozen films.

[Rick Ross]

Facts. So many different places you could film, different angles you could film from.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So now this is Evander's old house.

[Rick Ross]

Evander Holyfield's former crib daddy built for 25 million.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And it's 54, 000 square feet. Or is it. Was it 46, 000 square feet or 54000 square feet?

[Rick Ross]

55, 55.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I got to get these numbers.

[Rick Ross]

Catch that alley hoop, man. You gotta catch it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. You know, there's another guy that built a house in, in Atlanta as well. His name is Hubert Humphrey. I don't know if you saw his house he built it in. Coming Georgia. If you go to the, the images go to the second one. Rob. Yeah, he's got another. So there's a lot of big houses there, but the one you're in, you're saying is the biggest house in, in Georgia.

[Rick Ross]

I'm not sure. I never even heard of this crib right here.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, that's another one. Not that guy. I don't know who that guy is. Maybe that guy's the bankruptcy Attorney or something. But this was a. I got a tour of this house in 0708. It was, it was also a nice house. Do you prefer being down here or do you prefer being up there in Georgia?

[Rick Ross]

It depends on the time of the year. Once the hurricanes come here, I'm different. I'm in a different spot.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You head up to Rob. Can you go to his house? Type in, type in images of the house. Rick Ross. No, no Rick Ross house. Because it's a ridiculous property that doesn't even look like a house. How often you throw parties at this place? I'm assuming you've had some really big ones.

[Rick Ross]

No, Without a doubt, without a doubt. For my 40th, I know I spent a half a million. For my 40th I had an amazing event. But the car show now is. That's what a car show look like every Holy.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That's a car show. Yeah, yeah. And this is. This is it, right?

[Rick Ross]

Because I've had over 10,000 people.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, that's the car show facts. 10,000 people come to that.

[Rick Ross]

It's going to be crazy. June 13th. Get your tickets right now. You better come to Atlanta for the car show. Of course it's going to be next level, big boys, big boy shit Rose.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Now when, when you're doing business and you go into the room like if you were to give other business guys advice, okay, how important is it building a brand that drives attention to the businesses you run?

[Rick Ross]

That question almost sound unbelievable. It was even asking me repeat that again.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So how, how important is it to build a brand, personal brand, to help bring attention to the businesses you're running or owning?

[Rick Ross]

Well, it depends on who's. Who we speaking about. Everybody's not great at being a personal brand. You know, everybody's not great or meant to be up front leading the charge. So sometimes it's best for certain people to fall back. But in my situation, me being a voice of the brand is always a great thing. Right now I have over 30 plus partnerships. I'm celebrating 20 years in the game and I'm still excited about the music. We still chastising the minions. We still shooting threes from half court. Hell yeah. When I throw you the alley hoop, you, you gotta win by ammo.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And by the way, I saw something. I saw you said you have 3, 500 songs that you still have not released. Is that the number? Am I saying the correct number?

[Rick Ross]

I don't know.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I read it somewhere there. You said 3, 500 songs that has not been released to the public.

[Rick Ross]

I Have laptops and laptops. Hard drives. And hard drives.

[Patrick Bet-David]

How does the song selection work out? How do you pick? How do you say this doesn't make it. Is it like a.

[Rick Ross]

It's whatever. Elimination. It's whatever feels, you know, who gives me that fulfilling vibe? It's not about no who produced it. It's not about who's on it. What do I play? And I stand up and I jump up, right? Then that's what we keep.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But is it like 25 of them? And then you cut to 24, then you got to 22, then you go to 14. Is. Is it kind of like that or

[Rick Ross]

it's kind of like.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It is like that.

[Rick Ross]

It is.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay. And then do you rank it and is there. Is there a number to pick the best song? Is that the fourth song is typically the best one, Is it not the first one? Nothing like that. And that's just for the audience to decide.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, it's for the audience to decide, you know, what they love and appreciate the most.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You know what I'm asking though, right? Like, do. Do, do artists pick the one? Like, let's just say you're doing an album and every day you hustle and say is the best song, and you know it's going to be the best song. Do you put that in six? Like, you know baseball, there's cleanup hitter. And you put nothing like that. With music.

[Rick Ross]

It's a body of work. What feels the most natural? What feels the most authentic? What goes together the best? What help paints the picture of what we're trying to do here? It's bigger than just one record. Two records.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Rick Ross]

This is a full body of work, and that's the way I approach it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And then you let the audience decide which one becomes a hit, they ultimately

[Rick Ross]

gonna determine what's the hit. You can't tell them.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Do you already kind of personally sit there and say, I think out of the record that's coming on June 12th, I think these three are the ones that I'm most excited.

[Rick Ross]

Without a doubt, you most definite hear some and you got it. Boy, this crazy. I can't wait to see what the response is. Yeah, when I talk like that, that's usually what that is.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So there's going to be some diss tracks at some people in the album that's coming out. Some names will be called that in the album that's coming out.

[Rick Ross]

It's a good chance.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It's a good chance.

[Rick Ross]

Yeah, it's a good chance.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Is there going to be like a Leroy in There Bruce Leroy type of thing or no?

[Rick Ross]

Oh, that was a nice alley hoop right there. 50 Cent, you saw. He threw me the alley. Oop about son.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, that's a. That's a nickname.

[Rick Ross]

Bruce Leroy.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Rick Ross]

That should be a song title.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Could it be?

[Rick Ross]

It might not be too late. It might not be too late. It might not be.

[Patrick Bet-David]

2. Two last questions before we wrap up. You ever see these guys online that do watch reviews? You ever see these watch review guys because you're a watch guy?

[Rick Ross]

Facts.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What. What's. What's your favorite watch? Like, if you have a watch, where do you have one? Where do you have a big watch collection?

[Rick Ross]

I have a nice timepiece collection. I do.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Over 50. Over 100, because you got a hundred cars. So is it the same with watches or. Not really.

[Rick Ross]

I got a lot of watches. I do.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Is there a favorite one you got that the.

[Rick Ross]

The vibes change?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Is there one that shows up more often than others?

[Rick Ross]

Usually the ones that I like most rarely wear. It's Sometime pieces. It's Sometime Pieces to me that just go with the Daily Bounce, you know,

[Patrick Bet-David]

Is there a specific brand? Are you a Rolex guy or a hublot guy? Are you a Patek guy? Are you an AP guy?

[Rick Ross]

I got all of them.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What's the favorite one?

[Rick Ross]

It's not really a favorite. That's what I'm saying. It's kind of like, yeah, it's a vibe, you know, what restaurant are we going to? What we traveling to?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Like, what are you going to do?

[Rick Ross]

How long will be going? This is a paddock.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Iced out.

[Rick Ross]

Big time. Big time bust down.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So, you know, it's funny, the guys earlier, they're like, pat, you know, this is the third Rick Ross you've had on your podcast. I said third. Who are the other two? I know one of them. One of them is Freeway Rick Ross, but apparently we had a Rick Allen Ross who was on the podcast about a year ago, who was a cult deprogrammer, okay. Where people who join cults. He deprograms people from having joined the cult. Okay. But there was about a period of my life that I kept bringing people on because I wanted to find out who killed Tupac. So I brought on Freeway Red Cross. I don't know what it was probably 10 years ago. I did podcast two times with him, and he came on and we spoke, and your name came up. When's the. Because in the lawsuit. He tried to sue you twice. I've never seen somebody try to sue somebody twice. That at the end is it true that at the end of the lawsuit he had to pay for your legal fees?

[Rick Ross]

He wasted a lot of people time. I hope he's coping with the crack addiction that he been dealing with this whole time. And I hope you're your. Your listeners. I hope you didn't disappoint your listeners listening to that shit. I just hope. I just hope, man, you gotta keep. You gotta maintain a certain level of equality. And you let. You've allowed it to dip to. To a few.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Putting him on.

[Rick Ross]

I mean, you should go and look at your. Go look at your ratings. Pull up the ratings.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Type in YouTube Rick Ross Bed David. Let's see how he performed. I don't know actually how he performed, but let's look it up.

[Rick Ross]

Let's look it up.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Type in bed David and Rick Ross. Watch the cult guy come up first. 1.6 million.

[Rick Ross]

The cult guy. You could.

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, but right there, that's Freeway Red Cross was what, six years ago? Click on that. I think it performed pretty well. It did. Okay. 1.6 million. You want to go to the comment section? Let's see what the audience said. So I'm trying to see. I'm giving you my last alley hoop and I'm trying to see what you're going to do with this.

[Rick Ross]

It's not an alley hoop. This is.

[Patrick Bet-David]

If you don't respect everyone, then you're disrespecting yourself.

[Rick Ross]

This is

[Patrick Bet-David]

like this, man.

[Rick Ross]

Informant slash crackhead.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Was he the reason why you named yourself? What you named or not at all? Was there any influence there?

[Rick Ross]

He's a crackhead. What are you talking about? Pull up Crack. Pull up. Smoking crack. Freeway smoking crack. This what you should be talking about on your. You let me down. You're disappointing me because. Where's the crack? Pull it up. I don't see it. Pull up the headlines.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You're saying now we're back in the days because he, he. We know back in the days he had issues.

[Rick Ross]

We don't know nothing. I'm asking to pull it up. I'm asking to pull it up. Where's the facts? We talking facts? When he sued me, he had to admit the facts about him being an informant cooperating with us.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And we know that we talked about that. That's not something that we don't know why you're not.

[Rick Ross]

That's what people.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Oh, that was the conversation. That's why the interview did well, because we specifically talked about that. He had a big role in that.

[Rick Ross]

You ain't mentioning it to me.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Oh, no, no.

[Rick Ross]

The question I asked, abusing crack. Yeah, I'm sure he came and lied to you and told you he made $3 million a day and he never. Did he ever show you a home?

[Patrick Bet-David]

No.

[Rick Ross]

Did he ever show you a home? Did he show you his car collection? Did he show you his watch collection? What the $3 million a day, where was it going to? Thank you.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Thank you. Yeah, I mean, thank you.

[Rick Ross]

Thank you. This pbd. Your listeners deserve better. This is Ricky Rose.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Did he at all inspired the name though? That's the only question I thought.

[Rick Ross]

I've answered that three times.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I don't think you did. I think you went to crack and I know he had the crack issue.

[Rick Ross]

Why would a crack introduce it to

[Patrick Bet-David]

a lot of you? It was a bad thing.

[Rick Ross]

Why would a crackhead inspire the boss, Rick Ross, to want to be the informant? That's not. No, that's why the lawsuit found.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So the two of you guys have never spoken one on one.

[Rick Ross]

Brother, you lowering the standards of the interview now. We can't focus on. If I run a poll, we can't focus on crack. I have a car show coming out that's so huge. If I ran a Hustlers.

[Patrick Bet-David]

If I ran a poll, which we'll do that. And by the way, we're going to plug every one of those things every day.

[Rick Ross]

Thank you. That's what the chips.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I'm going to eat the chips. I'm going to plug all this stuff in.

[Rick Ross]

Thank you.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But if I did a poll, Rose, respectfully. Okay. If I ran a poll and I said give me five topics, you would want me to ask Rick Ross, right. The boss. You the guy that has one of the greatest hits of all time. One of the top five would probably be the feud with 50 Cent, which you delivered. You didn't hold back respect. One of them would probably be your coming up and what you did with your story of going from where you were at to your winning down, probably people gonna ask that name Freeway Rick. Even Rogan had Rick Ross on it.

[Rick Ross]

That question was brought up if I asked Joe Rogan.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Rick Ross]

The five questions about when it comes to having guests and speaking on success and not just trying to get black, you know. Yeah, let me get some real one, man. Y' all gotta have some real ones. Really. On your. Your platforms. Not no. 40 years ago where nobody's proving anything. It's time to really. That's the thing. That's the difference about, you know, the social media and what's real and what's not. These will Wake up and show you they drip check and they jeans and they jackets. No shorts us what your TV sit on the wall like. What you living like? Yeah, show us that. That's what I want to see. I don't want to see the imaginary where your beer companies at? Where your beers at?

[Patrick Bet-David]

We're gonna have some beer today at this time.

[Rick Ross]

Book said where's the. It's the difference between the real deal and when it's just cap. So I see it every day. I enjoy it. You see it, you laugh. But when it's time for the real deal, the real when they want to know how Ricky Ross, you know how you really pull off the big boy jets. The big boy moves my dentist shout out to Dr. Mario Montoya. You know it's people out here that. That freeway Rick Ross. He could have used the teeth cleaning. Did you offer him a teeth cleaner? I should have heavy plaque.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You think so?

[Rick Ross]

Oh, man. That's what I'm trying to tell you and.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But you guys never met.

[Rick Ross]

I got it. I got a dentist office. We. We actually was during a lawsuit. Yeah. He reached out to shake my hand and I didn't shake his hand. He said it in an interview.

[Patrick Bet-David]

He said he called you in 08 and he sent sometime you guys.

[Rick Ross]

He never called me.

[Patrick Bet-David]

He said. And you offered to help him or something like that.

[Rick Ross]

That's stop Big Cap. If I. If I offered to help him, why would he sue and not get nothing? Come on, man. You got to be smarter than that. It's not even realistic. He filed a lawsuit basing some on some that wasn't even real. But when you cooperate your whole life, that's all you know. We kicked them to sleep and we moved on about our business. And now we are enjoying South Beach Brew beer.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Can we try some chips? Is that okay with you? Do it. Set it up. I'm good with that.

[Rick Ross]

Thank you.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So Rick Ross. Sweet chips, lemon pepper. Rob, I want you to try it as well. Come on, Rob.

[Rick Ross]

He always call you Rob Whenever he get put in a tight space.

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, this is not. I'm comfortable. You got a little uncomfortable with Rip Cross. I was asking the question. You got a little uncomfortable.

[Rick Ross]

No, this. When you keep speaking on Minions. When you speak it to a rich boss and you speaking on Minions and.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Oh my God.

[Rick Ross]

This shot is on minion time.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Oh my God.

[Rick Ross]

At some point I gotta say yo.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Oh my God, Rob. Come try it. Rob. I'm telling you, Po. Rob, this is a sign that I'm getting nervous. I want you to Try some chips. According to. You hear the sound. You know that Asian girl that eats and she puts her mouth by the mic so you can hear it. Rob, how good is it really?

[Rick Ross]

Pause, pause, pause, pause, pause, pause. Also congratulation.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Like this a lot. Where can people find us? Is this at the stores or is it a link they got to go to?

[Rick Ross]

Shout out. Shout out to Rap Rap snacks. You know, this was one of the. The brands I reached out to, just letting them know I like what they was doing. And we did a quick collaboration. Shout out to James Lindsay. Rap snacks.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Shop through the roof. Must. Must try. Delish.

[Rick Ross]

Thank you.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Must try. So album coming out in three weeks.

[Rick Ross]

Thank you. This is the. This is how real bosses move. We. We celebrating the port of Miami 20th Anniversary Tour. We kicking that off p o m20.com p o m20.com for more information on that.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So this is what. So there's going to be an event that people can go to for the

[Rick Ross]

release of live orchestra. Live orchestra.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Cho, go a little bit lower.

[Rick Ross]

Big suits, tuxes, big diamonds. Then the car show. Of course, we have our beer going on. Slippery soap. The list, man. I just closed the deal. I'm now a part owner of Easy Feel. So we. What we do is pull up to your crib and we bring the gas station to you. That's a jet, that's a yacht. Your cars. Go ahead, pull up that Easy feel for me, please. So we actually closed this situation maybe last month, and I began promoting it not even maybe a week ago.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Can you put. I actually want to see what this looks like. Rob, if you type in Easy, Phil, is it. Is it with a Z or E? A S, Y.

[Rick Ross]

Easy.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Not easy. It's easy as es, E, A, S,

[Rick Ross]

Y, Z, F, I, L, E, Z.

[Patrick Bet-David]

The letter easy. There you go, Rob. Rob was a spelling champion ninth grade.

[Rick Ross]

You see that?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Oh, wow.

[Rick Ross]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So this is you. Perfect teeth, beautiful home, nice cars, great clothes, beautiful watches. How you get it all right?

[Rick Ross]

And it's only one way you make it to this. That's when you remove the minions from the conversations. You see this? We could feel your boat up, fuel your fleet up. Your wife doesn't have to worry about getting a Chanel snatched at the gas station at 10pm or being followed home by, you know, it's. It's fun. And that's what make me who I am. I'm having fun doing this.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I love it. And I'm gonna make that intro to the CFO of dolphins if that ever Gets announced. We know where it started.

[Rick Ross]

Of course.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Rose, Appreciate your brother coming out. This was great. Enjoyed it. I can't wait to be back, my man. I look forward to it. I look forward to it. And if the. The day for the release was another day, I would have been with you because June 11, I'm getting a surgery on my ACL. But I wish you nothing but the best, man.

[Rick Ross]

That acl, Push that back, man.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I've been pushed. Honestly, I'm being serious with you. I pushed it back so many times, it's not even fun. Is that a meeting this morning? Like, how much more time we got to push it back? I got to get it done. And anyways, gang, go visit. Go order the book. Go to. All the links will be below. Rob, whether it's the book, the chips I just had to. Honestly, I'm not even sarcastic. It's. It's incredible. The chips I just had. And you can also go pre order the album as well. That comes out June 12th.

[Rick Ross]

June 12th. Set in stone is everywhere. The book is out now. The car show is June 13th. The Port of Miami 20 Year Celebration Tour is kicking off May 29th right here in Miami. So we having a lot of good things going on, man.

[Patrick Bet-David]

There you go.

[Rick Ross]

We can't miss nothing.

[Patrick Bet-David]

There you go. Take care, everybody. Bye bye. Bye bye.

[Rick Ross]

Too easy.

[Patrick Bet-David]

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