ICE Chaos ERUPTS, Iran ON THE BRINK, Khamenei In Hiding + Trump's 100% Tariff THREAT | PBD Podcast | Ep. 726

Summary

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PBD Podcast Ep. 726 Summary

ICE Chaos ERUPTS, Iran ON THE BRINK, Khamenei In Hiding + Trump’s 100% Tariff THREAT
Date: January 26, 2026
Host: Patrick Bet-David (PBD)
Guests: Humberto Bellard, Vinny, Tom

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Overview

This episode of the PBD Podcast dives into a tumultuous week in the U.S. and internationally:

• The fallout from a fatal shooting involving ICE and protests in Minneapolis
• The political blame game around immigration enforcement and city/state cooperation
• Escalation in Iran, with Supreme Leader Khamenei reportedly in hiding amid the threat of U.S. strikes
• Trump’s latest threats of 100% tariffs on Canada over China trade
• Domestic unrest, media bias, Democratic Party fractures, and cultural flashpoints like the upcoming Super Bowl
  Throughout, hosts dissect narratives in the news, the impact on public sentiment, and the strategic maneuvers of political actors.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Minneapolis ICE Protest Shooting: What Happened?

• Incident Recap:
  • A protest in Minneapolis turned violent; Alex Preddy, a nurse and protester, was fatally shot during an ICE enforcement operation (13:09).
  • Preddy was reportedly armed and engaged physically with Border Patrol agents.
• Diverging Narratives:
  • Left-wing framing: Blames Trump and federal agencies, compares ICE to “Nazis” and “Gestapo.”
  • Right-wing framing: Blames Minnesota’s leadership (Gov. Tim Walz, Mayor Jacob Fry) for not cooperating with federal authorities, forcing ICE to take direct action.
• Responsibility & Media Bias:
  • PBD: “This whole thing falls 100% on Tim Waltz. Why does it fall 100% on Tim Waltz? You’re the leader of the state who lost complete control.” (24:08)
  • Vinny: “When you start caring about people like that, I’ll start caring about some stupid nurse that, that shouldn’t have been there in the first place.” (18:58)
• Rules for Radicals Playbook:
  • PBD explains how crisis and chaos are being manufactured per Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals” to polarize voters and demonize opponents (33:27).
• Public Perception:
  • PBD: “Ask yourself… why did the US government have to send ICE agents into those areas? Why? Because the local and state officials are not cooperating with the federal government.” (24:08)

2. Political Fallout: Democrats, Activists, and the Media

• Media Narrative Weaponization:
  • Only select stories (e.g. Alex Preddy) receive national coverage if they serve a political narrative; crimes by illegal immigrants, like the murder of Laken Riley, get little airplay (23:54).
  • Bill Maher goes viral calling NYC officials “straight up communists,” warning Dems will lose more elections if they deny it (73:17):

    “Democrats seem to be having this debate whether or not Mayor Mamdani is a socialist or a democratic socialist… Let me settle it. He’s a straight up communist.”—Bill Maher (74:27)

• Radicalization and NGO/Activist Influence:
  • Tom: “They are protecting the mechanism that they have been building for ten years.” (42:06)
  • Discussion on activist signal chats, with public figures named (Brian Krassenstein, state officials) as participants in coordinating protest actions (56:15).

3. ICE, Protests, and City/State Cooperation

• The Blame Game:
  • ICE operations devolve into chaos in non-cooperative “sanctuary” cities—Minneapolis, certain Chicago districts, etc.
  • Scott Jennings (clip 101:56): “All over this country… you see very orderly transitions… The only difference in Minnesota is you have Walz and Fry… who don’t want to cooperate.”
• Policy Responses:
  • AOC calls for defunding ICE after the Minneapolis shooting (61:04). New York City politicians pledge to resist ICE and offer city-funded childcare to illegal immigrants (68:53).
  • Vinny skewers the “free” talking point: “Nothing is free. Like not, not the buses, not the childcare.” (72:24)
• Dangerous Rhetoric:
  • Extreme Nazi/Gestapo references in the public debate, even from business owners on CNN, signal growing radicalization (103:17).
  • PBD and team warn this stirs division and violence by design.

4. National Division, Political Realignment, and 2026/2028 Prospects

• Democratic Party in Disarray:
  • Democratic disapproval of their own congressional leaders hits record highs—57% 79:29.
  • Host prediction: American “core” voters in both parties reject fringe radical agendas.
  • Vinny: “The Democrats are the Jets. It’s just over and over… Now they just found out… their head coach is involved in cheating…” (82:18)
• Radical Playbook Limitation:
  • “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” (Rules for Radicals) – hosts predict Democrats will move to new crises or narratives when current issues lose steam (67:07).

5. International Flashpoints

• Iran Crisis:
  • Report: Khamenei hiding underground, succession plans in place, economy and regime on the brink (116:07).
  • US airlines cancel Middle East flights; serious expectation of US strikes.
  • PBD: “Iran is the first country ever… to have two different types of revolutions at the same time: one economic, one religious.” (118:02)
• Host Analysis:
  • Humberto: “If you get your savings wiped out with 48% inflation… you’re gonna revolt.” (116:30)
  • Tom: “I’m 50/50 that we execute a strike [on Iran] before the end of the year. I’m more than 50/50 that… there’s an actual leadership change.” (119:20)
• China & Canada – Trade War Looms:
  • Trump threatens 100% tariffs on Canadian goods if Canada makes trade deals with China (90:31).
  • Host team concurs: Canada’s economic dependence on US makes it illogical to antagonize America (94:16), with tongue-in-cheek suggestions to “trade Alberta for Minnesota.”

6. Cultural Flashpoints: Super Bowl, Media, and Public Sentiment

• Super Bowl Controversy:
  • Trump skips Super Bowl in California, takes shot at woke/anti-Trump performers (Bad Bunny, Green Day) (104:15).
  • PBD: “Isn’t it wild that him not going the market is a little bit surprised because he goes to everything.” (110:57)
• NFL’s Media Strategies:
  • Halftime show selection discussed as a brand strategy gone awry, causing public backlash.

7. Notable Lighter Moments

• Alex Honnold Climbs Taiwan Skyscraper for Netflix
  • Enormous free climb performance by Alex Honnold, reportedly for $500k (131:46).
  • PBD: “If I were his agent, I would call the Spider man brand. Put him in the movie… he deserves to be in the next Spider Man.” (137:07)
  • Playful analysis of how much his wife must “be just as crazy” to be cool with it. (140:05)

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• On the ICE Protest Shooting:

  “All you had to do was cooperate. You refused to cooperate, because of that, this took place.” — Patrick Bet-David (34:54)

• On Rules for Radicals:

  “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it and polarize it. Don’t fight systems, fight symbols and people.” — PBD (33:27)

• On American Public Reaction:

  “To the average person in America, what does this look like? … Gestapo. They’re killing America.” — Vinny (23:42)

• On Democratic Party Troubles:

  “Democrats hate their own congressional leaders. These numbers are awful, awful, awful.” — Patrick Bet-David (79:46)

• On Iran’s Double Crisis:

  “Iran is the first country ever… to have two different types of revolutions at the same time: one economic, one religious.” — PBD (118:02)

• On Political Manipulation:

  “The left formula for creating chaos: label opponents as Hitler, Gestapo, extremists… Exploit the crisis, blame Trump, repeat.” — PBD (48:56, paraphrased)

• On Media Bias and Coverage:

  “How much coverage did they give to Lake and Riley? It doesn’t meet their narrative.” — PBD (23:54)

• On Continuing Crisis:

  “Do you think this is it or do you think the temperatures are going to go here, here, or do you think this is the highest we hit?” — PBD (51:25)

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Key Timestamps by Segment

• 00:31 – 13:09: Introduction, topics list, and context for the Minneapolis protest and ICE shooting
• 13:09 – 24:08: Video breakdown of the shooting; initial panel reactions
• 24:08 – 34:54: Deep dive: Media narrative, public perception, and the political blame game
• 33:27 – 34:54: Breakdown of “Rules for Radicals” and their implementation in current events
• 34:54 – 42:06: Political fallout, activist coordination, NGO funding, party strategy
• 56:15 – 62:19: Signal chat leaks, public figures’ involvement, AOC’s push to defund ICE
• 62:56 – 68:53: NYC offers free childcare to illegal immigrants, framing of “free” services
• 73:17 – 76:14: Bill Maher’s viral monologue on socialism/communism
• 79:29 – 81:45: CNN poll: Democrats’ dissatisfaction with Democratic leaders
• 101:56 – 103:16: Scott Jennings on what divides orderly and chaotic immigration enforcement
• 110:57 – 113:44: Trivia: US presidents attending the Super Bowl
• 131:46 – 140:58: Alex Honnold’s Taiwan skyscraper climb for Netflix
• 116:07 – 130:41: Iran analysis: Khamenei hiding, regime crisis, prospects for revolution/regime change

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Closing Analysis

Tone:
Energetic, combative, unapologetically partisan, and at times humorous—but always direct and unfiltered. The hosts alternate between deep policy analysis and pointed cultural observation.

Listener Takeaway:

• The ICE incident is the tip of the iceberg revealing deeper dysfunction: media bias, activist strategies, and political manipulation in immigration policy.
• Major international events (Iran, China-Canada-US trade) are viewed through the prism of US domestic political advantage and global strategic maneuvering.
• Claims of media dishonesty, activist orchestration, and Democratic Party chaos form a recurring motif—emphasizing the stakes of upcoming elections and the risk of escalating social division.
• Meanwhile, culture-war stories from the Super Bowl to viral stunts serve as both relief and further examples of underlying national rifts.
• The team underscores their optimism: “The future looks bright,” provided enough Americans see through manipulation and demand cooperation, accountability, and real solutions.

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(For speaker attribution and quotes, see timestamps above. This summary omits all ad reads, intros, and outros.)

Transcript

[Humberto Bellard]

Did you ever think you were made again?

[Patrick Bet-David]

I feel I'm supposed I could take Sweet victory.

[Humberto Bellard]

I know this life meant for me.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever saw. It's right here. You are a one of one.

[Humberto Bellard]

I don't think I said this.

[Patrick Bet-David]

All right, we got a special guest in the house. Humberto Bellard is in the house. Humberto, great to have you on.

[Humberto Bellard]

Thank you for having me.

[Patrick Bet-David]

For some of you guys that know Humberto, it's kind of a big deal here in this building. But of course, this is a tough weekend with all the events that took place. There's a lot of opinions. There's a lot of thoughts. I tweeted about this when it happened, and I said this 100% on Tim Waltz. This could have been prevented if you could. You lost complete control of your people. And I got a lot of people that were not happy about my comment. But I will tell you exactly why I am not changing my position and the comments I made. Alex Pretty should be here today. If it wasn't for leadership, he should be here today. It's devastating when you watch that video, whether you agree with his politics or not. This is a guy that loved America. This is a guy that loved his family. His family came out and put out a note. He did not seem like a bad guy, but there are laws that we have to follow. And unfortunately, this happened. And there's a lot of things that happen over the weekend. You know, reports of people's names being found in telegram groups that are going out there protesting, doing all of this stuff. The whole playbook of rules for radicals needs to be looked at, which we will today. I'll go through the 13 rules for radicals just to remind everybody what that book that a lot of these guys, the playbook that they use, they go through. And again, heartbreaking. We've seen all the clips, all the angles. We'll show any clips that we're capable of showing. Rob, you'll decide which ones. YouTube's going to be okay for us to show or not, but that's that. So ton of stories there. We'll spend the first hour probably on that topic, but aside from that, a few other things that we need to get into. There's this. Anti Influencer declares guerrilla war against ice. That's kind of a part of that video, but we'll show it to you anyways. Iran's Supreme Leader retreats underground. Warrant of likelihood of US Airstrikes. That was Brought to him. Trump announced he's skipping super bowl in California. Criticizes performers Bad Bunny and Green Day. And apparently Bad Bunny was supposed to wear a dress thing. Last minute they couldn't fit the dress. No. Change his mind. You're not. He's not wearing the dress. And Trump's going to be skipping the super bowl. Which should be interesting that he's skipping it. You know there's a. He doesn't miss any of these events. I was at the college game with, what do you call it, Indiana and Miami and he was there. Okay. You go to ufc, he's there. You go to the big fights, he's there. For whatever reason, he's skipping this one. And by the way, it's going to be Seattle against New England.

[Humberto Bellard]

Yep.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Which Rams could have won last night. They could have won it. Couple plays could have happened. But this is why football is football. And, and it's going to be Seattle against. What do you call it? Patriots.

[Vinny]

You think he's skipping a pat because it's in LA and it's Seattle.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I don't think he cares about. I think he'll go anywhere, flight anywhere.

[Vinny]

It's probably like a schedule.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I think there is something behind closed do that happened that he's probably not happy with that he's saying he's going to skip it again. We'll get into it because Tom's got thoughts on it. Again, more stories on what happened there. Major airlines cancel flights to Middle east with possible US strike on Iran up in the air. Iran will retreat any attack as an all out war, says senior Iran official. Again, more of these stories. That's January 24th story that's coming down. Shutdown risks risk grows as Democrats revolt after Minneapolis shooting Senate cancels Monday vote As shutdown deadline looms. Mamdani announces free childcare for illegal aliens. Free child care, folks. If you're illegal, go to New York. They're offering free child care for you. It's a great advertisement to attract more illegal aliens. If somebody is watching this, wondering what is a good city to move to if you're illegal, I would suggest go straight to New York City. They're giving you a commercial to tell you we want illegals in our city. Very noble of their mayor that wants more illegal aliens in their city. You have to respect the fact that Mamdani wants more illegal aliens in his city. You know Vinnie, the part of it is kind of noble because you decide right As a company can say what types of people we hire. Of course you say we want people with, you know, MBAs. We want people with bachelor's degrees. We want you with a degree in, you know, finance or whatever may be. He's saying he wants illegal aliens to his city, which is great. Send more to New York City. If you're part of a city that you don't want illegal aliens, encourage them, maybe give them like a Greyhound ticket to. It's a strategy to use because they have better benefits in New York City for illegal aliens. Bill Maher says anti COVID lockdown advocates were right. Wuhan lab leak wasn't a conspiracy theory. He continues, by the way, Bill Maher is trying to make new friends today. Bill Maher calls Mamdani a straight up communist, warns Dems will lose more elections if they deny it. And then Scott Jennings has to explain to CNN why immigration enforcement runs smoothly in states other than Minnesota. And he breaks it down for them. CBS Evening News rakes and higher rating despite liberals moaning. CBS is coming up. Is that because of Bari Weiss? What's going on there? I mean, if they're increasing, maybe Barry's doing something right. You got to give her some credit. CNN's Harry Anton says even Democrats hate their own party. Can you imagine that? How, how bad is that to say even your own party members hate your own party? A little bit. Harry's. A little bit. That's offensive, Harry. You know, Trump threatens 100% tariffs on Canada if it makes a deal with China Again, going back at it. Carney pushes back on Trump's 100% tariff threat over China trade deal with Canada amid tensions. Mamdani calls ICE raids inhumane, pledges to fight them. In New York City, top Trump lieutenants join in blasting Dems Tim Waltz and Jacob Fry for inciting protesters. Tim Waltz compares Trump's ice crackdown in Minnesota to Nazi occupation told by Anne Frank. And by the way, don't you think comments like that incite encourage people to come out and do dumb things? Don't you think comments like that enrages people? On a brighter note, this guy decides to climb a building. In what country was this? Taiwan.

[Humberto Bellard]

Taiwan. It was amazing.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Taiwan, Taipei, tallest building, tallest building, comparable to the, you know, the, the World Trade center building we have here in New York City. He climbs it with no, have you seen this video?

[Vinny]

What do you mean?

[Patrick Bet-David]

And then, you know, what was the most anxiety? The guy gets all the way to the top and he just stands and he's going like this. I'm like, buddy, there's wind up there. Like, hold it together. You'd be like, this, that's the first thing I search. How did a guy get down?

[Vinny]

Don't tell me.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I don't know how you got like a wimp.

[Vinny]

He went in and took like an elevator.

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, no. I have no idea how he jumped. But if you, if you don't like heights, I wouldn't have. I would encourage you to skip that part at the end when we get into it. Now, having said that.

[Tom]

So you wouldn't want to do the interview with him? Right up on top, I could see.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You do the podcast. No way.

[Vinny]

Okay, let me ask you a question. How much money? Real talk, Tommy.

[Tom]

Great helicopter with a rope and a chair.

[Vinny]

I'm being dead serious. At the top of that little thing. Just you and him. $10 million. I give you. Would you do the podcast?

[Patrick Bet-David]

I'm telling you right now, on air. You give me a billion dollars. I'm not doing that interview.

[Vinny]

A billion dollars.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I have no interest to sit up there and ask him what was it like. I believe no interest to do that. He can go out there and enjoy himself and we celebrate it. But it's not something I'm interested in. But okay. Having said that, you want some good news? Here's a good news. America's turning 250 this year. And by the way, we're doing something Special on the 250th, 4th of July. Stay tuned. I'll announce it to you when it's ready to announce. It's going to be wild, but we're going to do a handful of special pieces of merch, limited edition, numbered. Okay, this one's going to be out of 250 with the number 250. So it's a number down to 250 for the 250 year celebration of us. It will not last long. Rob, play this clip. Future looks bright. We're excited about this year with all the chaos that's happening when we break down to you what is really going on or make sense to you. But having said that, Rob, go ahead and play this clip.

[Vinny]

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[Patrick Bet-David]

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[Vinny]

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[Patrick Bet-David]

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[Vinny]

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[Patrick Bet-David]

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[Tom]

Having said that, the shield. That shield is just amazing.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It is amazing. It is amazing. It's sick. Okay, having said that, let's get right into it with what happened this weekend. Rob, tragic event in Minneapolis. Alex Preddy was at the protest. And while the events are taking place. Rob, which clips can we show? Because at this point people have seen many of the clips. Let's show this until it gets to the part of the shooting. Rob, go for it. So this is the protest that's going on. Isis coming down low. The audio a little bit. Rob, that whistling is in the street obstructing.

[Tom]

And I think the majority of these officers were border patrol agents, correct?

[Patrick Bet-David]

They're border patrol agents, majority of them. So that's Alex, New Year, new me.

[Humberto Bellard]

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[Tom]

There's the bear spray or the.

[Vinny]

Oh, fighting back, dragging the girl.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay, you can pause it right there. You can pause it right there. This leads to shooting and eventually Alex dies after this event that takes place. And it's been talked about all over the place. The left is blaming Trump, calling him Gestapo, using phrases that is just. Again, the types of phrases that cause people to jump to conclusion saying this was intentional. Why did they do this? You know, CNN done a bunch of different interviews. I can read a bunch of the stories here, but let's kind of read one of them. Alex Pretty, 37, identified man as fatally shot by Border Patrol agent in Minneapolis. Rob, if you have a clip on that one, I'll go to this first. And then we got. Is that Christine Ohm?

[Tom]

Yes, sir.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Go ahead. Go ahead and play this clip.

[Tom]

An individual approached U.S. border Patrol officers.

[Patrick Bet-David]

With a 9 millimeter semiautomatic handgun.

[Tom]

The officers attempted to disarm this individual, but the armed suspect reacted violently, fearing.

[Patrick Bet-David]

For his life and for the lives.

[Tom]

Of his fellow officers around him. An agent fired defensive shots. Medics were on the scene immediately and attempted to deliver medical aid.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay, so that's that. I'll come to you first, Tom, what happened? What is your impression of what happened? And then, of course, we'll go into the rest of the issues.

[Tom]

Well, I don't need to break down the video because I think everybody has seen it from 10 angles along with people putting spin on it. What I want to know is how does an emergency room nurse get involved with a highly organized group? He was out there with his camera up and he was directing traffic. There is no dispute that he stepped out into the street and they were trying to direct cars to come up and stop. People in cars were. Some of them were people that were also organized. So this guy puts himself out in harm's way. It didn't have to happen. There was a report from Minnesota News that his parents apparently told News that they said, don't go get involved with this. Why are you getting involved with this? So there was some concern on the part of the family. So he goes down where officers have actions going, and he was part of an organized group. He goes down there armed. He had his phone. And so I look at it and I'm like saying, alex, you didn't have to die. What were you doing there? And more importantly, how did you get involved with these people and. And get into part of the organization to come down and Disrupt traffic during a law enforcement action that was being carried out by the border Patrol. That was my first response. And then we all saw what happened. It got crazy. And by the way, the police and law enforcement of every division in every department, whether it's border patrol that we saw here, by the way, Minnesota police, local police, where the hell were you when this is going on? And ICE this, they don't get to break it down frame by frame in slow motion. This thing is happening at speed. And you heard the first discharge. All he had to do was stand up and say, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. And put his arms straight out. They're either going to leave you on the ground or they're going to stand you up to the sidewalk, put you against a car or against a wall. That's all he had to do is to yell, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Or and put his arms straight up to show with palms open. But instead he chose to struggle and he chose to be there in the first place. And I think it's a tragedy, but I want to know who organized this and who pulled this guy into it, where he thought that it was okay to go down there. And by the way, his parents are telling media, we said, why are you getting involved in this? You shouldn't be down here.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Vinny, where are you at with this?

[Vinny]

Well, first and foremost, you guys know what I do? I carry a 9 millimeter Springfield Hellcat. You know, I have it on me. I have it on me all the time. You know what I don't do, Pat? I don't go to organize protest, okay? Because there was a fact that he was actively tracking and targeting ICE on that secret Minnesota signal chat, okay? I don't go to protest with other agents who have guns and interfere with official federal business, okay? You know why? Because I'm not stupid, Patrick. And I know, I know that there's a possibility if I get into a fight, something crazy might happen, okay? And there's a little. I did some research. I wanted to find out about this gun because from what I saw, they took the gun, but he was still reaching for something because he had two extra clips. I remember I was looking for a gun last year because I already have a Sig Sauer, Tommy. Right now I have a Hellcat. I have a bunch of guns. But the gun that he had was a sig Sauer P320. And the reason I didn't get it. Do you know why? It's been known for a history of misfiring by itself, law enforcement. There's lawsuits, Rob. Look at the Pap pig. The SIG Sauer P320, subject to over 100 lawsuits alleging that it can fire without a trigger pull. The incident, Rob, we don't have to go to it. There's a bunch of videos. There's one of cops in a hospital. They're arresting some individual, Pat. They grab the guy's legs and the cops gun goes and shoots and all the cops are tripping out. So add this to the recipe of disaster. Are you ready for this? He's there, he's interfering. They're in the, in the, in the skirmish. One agent grabs the gun, he's walking away. That gun misfires. This is my opinion, misfires. It spooks everybody there. And mind you, simultaneously, he's grabbing for the gun that he thinks is still there. Okay, but let's go back. Why is he there? He's there because he's told from his governor and he's getting prop. I don't know if he was getting paid or not, but I don't know why anybody else would be there if you're not going to be getting money for it unless you're that brainwashed. But they were told go there. Get in their faces. It's a call to action. I tweeted earlier today, Rob, can you please just show. This is the epitome of what is happening right now in Minnesota. This picture right here, it's Tim Walls behind the gate in his mansion with security telling his useful idiots to go and die. To distract from what guys? The billions and billions of dollars of fraud in his state and to keep protecting illegals, aka Democratic voters. the end of the day, take all your emotion out and take a step back. Why? Why Minnesota? Why is it happening? And I think that's the key issue. Because, Patton, if you don't mind. Rob, did you hear one thing of Ivory Smith? Can you show these photos? You'll never hear this or you'll never see this. I sent Rob three photos on Slack. Could you go to the. The young black girl, this is Ivory Smith. Okay? Does anybody know about her? Killed by a drunk driver, her mother critically injured. 7 years old. Go to Jocelyn Nungare. Pat, this 12 year old was raped, her throat was slit by two illegals from Venezuela. 12 years old and then the last. You want to talk about nurses? Laken Riley was 22 years old, jogging. I saw a video of her parents showing up to the scene. Pat, I didn't want to send it to you and I'm not going to because it'll ground you. Everybody, they're on the floor crying. She was jogging. She was. The guy was trying to sexually assault her. For 18 minutes. She fought him. She fought him and then he crushed her head with a rock. Nobody cares. No media, no leftist. It's all bullshit. Sorry for my language. It's all fake. Okay, so when you start caring about people like that, I'll start caring about some stupid nurse that, that shouldn't have been there in the first place.

[Tom]

People can talk about, oh, he was disarmed and things like that. He may have been disarmed, but he wasn't giving up. And he's still in a struggle that was going at speed with federal officers. And then a gun fires his gun that he brought to the event. So come on. I mean, it's a tragedy that he's dead, but it was his decision that he was there.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Humberto.

[Humberto Bellard]

I think this case context really matters. Like if you look, I mean, I'm all for the second amendment, but if you look at every federal building, all right, guns are not allowed. All right? And this is a federal interaction with a federal officer. Like we made the rules. So people that are going to have an interaction with the federal government don't have guns on them. You know what I mean? And the second thing is the context of a riot. Like I don't know if any of you guys been inside of a riot, like things and what Tom said, like time moves faster than it actually moves in real life. Like these are split second decisions where one gun going off. Like the whole, like a riot. I don't know if you guys seen when there's like big stampedes of people and people get trampled, like one thing that goes wrong, it will trigger the whole crowd and people are going to go crazy. It's a big tragedy every time an American life is lost. Doesn't matter which side it is for sure. Like I'm going to, I'm going to take that, that to the grave. You know, like it's, it's a big tragedy. But in a, in a context of a riot, in a con, in the context of, of an interaction with a federal officer, I think is terrible.

[Vinny]

He also didn't have his permit, he didn't have his id, which is, it's illegal. He didn't have all that. And I don't know is Minnesota have a law for bringing a firearm to, to a.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Of.

[Vinny]

Of political protest? I don't know. I don't know the laws in Minnesota, but I don't see that that'd be something that you do. Why would you bring a gun? Why would you bring a gun and get into everybody's face unless you were asking for it?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Well, I want to get back into the story you talk about of who they're not talking about. But before we do, can you do me a favor, Rob, and play the Jacob Fry clip of him criticizing ice? Here's Jacob Fry, the mayor. Here's what he had to say. Go ahead, Rob. This is not a partisan issue. This is an American issue.

[Tom]

This administration and everyone involved in this.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Operation should be reflecting. They should be reflecting right now and asking themselves, what exactly are you accomplishing? If the goal was to achieve peace and safety, this is doing exactly the opposite. If the goal was to achieve calm and prosperity, this is doing exactly the opposite. Are you standing up for American families.

[Tom]

Right now, or are we tearing them apart?

[Vinny]

The invasion of these heavenly.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Pause that. You can pause that right there. You know, one sits there. There's different people. And by the way, I called this two years ago when they said they're going to deport everybody. I said chaos is going to be nasty. I said this in 24 when they said this, and I'm talking in June is when I said this of 24. I said, look how nasty the clips are going to be and how it's going to. Rob, if we can even go back and try to find that clip from 24 When I talked about this, we have to search technology to be able to do that. You know which one I'm talking about on the side that we can do that. Let's see if you can pull it up. Rob's a magician. So. But what? So go through all the communities of people that are seeing this. Let's go to the average person in America who doesn't follow politics closely. They're just an average father, mother, I got a job. I pay the bills. I take care of my kids. I take him to soccer. I'm a soccer mom. I go to church. I don't go to church. I watch football. The average person. To the average person in America, what does this look like? To the average person in America, what does it look like? What's happening to the average person in America?

[Vinny]

It's Gestapo. It's. They're killing America. These guys are walking around grabbing American civilians and just shooting them point blank.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And you know who I'm talking about. You know how they say what service every year at the church is very busy? What service?

[Vinny]

Christmas, Easter.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Easter or what Christmas. It's normally those two right. Okay. What percentage of people watch the news? 24. 7. Not a lot. Okay, but imagine those who watch the news every time something happens.

[Humberto Bellard]

Yes.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So. Oh, my God. Did somebody get shot in Minneapolis? Yes. Let me go to cnn.

[Humberto Bellard]

Yes.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Let me go to NBC. Let me go to abc. And they look at this and say, they killed an innocent man. Are you flipping kidding me? That's what they consume. By the way, Rob, the link I sent you on Lake and Riley, the tragic. I don't even know what words to use, happened with Lake and Riley. Do you want to know why the American people, those who follow this story, are kind of sitting there saying, you've been praying for something like this. The enemy has been. Go a little bit lower. When you look at the story, the five days. Go a little bit lower up. Go lower, lower, lower To. I want to say. Go up three paragraphs. Go up three paragraphs. Go up, up three. Right there. Okay. Right there. Curtis Hauck's study showed that ABC, CBS, and NBC gave 20 minutes and 33 seconds to Lake and Riley's trial over five days. Only 20 minutes and 33 seconds between ABC, CBS, NBC. This is before Barry Weiss. Okay. Which was about one fourth of the coverage they devoted to the garbage gate story against Donald Trump in the final days of the presidential campaign. Tony Hinchcliffe's joke about Puerto Rico got 77 minutes. So what does this mean? Be good. We need that story. Yes, that's a good story, Alex. Pretty. We need that story. Why? This is good. We have to make ice look good. And by the way, while we're talking this morning with Humberto, just so you guys know, these are not perfect candidates for them. They would prefer somebody that was colored or black or they need a little bit more. But they'll still use it for their own benefit. They'll still use it. How much coverage did they give to Lake and Riley? It doesn't meet their narrative. It makes illegal immigrants not undocumented immigrants. You realize the crime that is taking place in America, but that's not what they want the American people to see. They want to be able to shake things up. Because the reality of it is, when I said, go to the Tim Waltz tweet, Rob, when I said, this whole thing falls 100% on Tim Waltz. Why does it fall 100% on Tim Waltz? This is 100% on you. You're the leader of the state who lost complete control. Go a little bit lower. And look at the commentary of people rebuttaling to it. Okay. Go to the top One, this signal is a vast fraud conducted. Skip that one. Also government representatives. History doesn't care about excuses wealthy Republicans must provide. So if the government puts federal thugs in your town, look at the verbiage. Are you saying the state has the right to fight back? I'm going to answer that question for you. We can see the victim was trying to protect two women who were being violent, shoved by ICE agents. He didn't have to be a part of it. Go a little bit lower, Rob. Go a little bit lower. Does it make you feel better to blame a Democrat when you're literally watching mask untrained government officials murdering people in the streets? Perfect. Okay. All of these things are things that people are. People are talking about back and forth. And again, this is a very sensitive topic. Ask yourself the question, why did the US government have to send ICE agents into those areas? Why? Why could this have been prevented? 100%. What do you mean? This is the Gestapo. This is ice. This is what they want to do. They don't want to do that, but they have to do that. Why? Because the local and state officials are not cooperating with the federal government to give them the reports. If the local and the state officials were cooperating and sending reports to the federal government of the crimes the illegal immigrants are committing in that local city or that state, we don't need to send ICE because then now we're cooperating. Well, how come this didn't happen under Obama? Ready for this one? Let's go through it. It's blue cities. All Obama's going to do is. Hey, guys, give us the list. Oh, no problem, Mr. Obama. Oh, no problem. Jesus. Oh, no problem, President Obama. Here's the list. Whatever. What else do you need? What else do you need? We'll cooperate with you. We'll give it to you. Of course they're going to cooperate with you because it's blue here. You think blue's going to cooperate with Trump to make him look good? No. You know what the blue hates, though? Which Humberto said this morning. What's down 20%? Crime is down 20%. Why is it down 20%? Because of blue policies? Hell no. Why is it down 20%? Pull up the report, Rob, that even CBS had to put up that so many people were furious. Got 50 million views on X. Crime is down. Murder is down 20%. But the American people are not going to see this because cbs, NBC, abc, cnn, when you watch it, they're not going to be giving you this report. The report's going to be a very different report. Murder is down 20%. Why? Border Patrol. Of people crossing the border today. You know what it's down to? Nothing. Ask the question. Why? So why didn't Minnesota. So now let's ask a different question. Rob, can you pull up right there? Look at that chart. Can you show that, please? US murder rate in 2026. What happened? What happened? Why did it drop the way it has? Why? Answer this question. Of course you have to use Alex Pretty and drive the hell out of it because you're trying to divide, because you want to blame everything on Trump. Of course you have to do that. That's the playbook. But why don't you cooperate? And by the way, Tim Waltz or all these other places, what would have happened if Tim Waltz would have cooperated? Jacob Fry, when you're blaming ice, what if you would have cooperated? What if you would have sent a report back to the White House? What if you would have told them, here's how many illegals we have, let's arrest them. They're breaking the law. They're stealing money from our taxpayers. No, no, no. I need their votes. Because if I cooperate, I may not get reelected. So I'll go dance like them. I'll go eat whatever the banana and you know all the stuff that they're talking about. I'll go do all that stuff. No, I can't do that. Go back to that stat, Rob, that you just had. Okay, what happened to stats? Okay, you know all the numbers that's going on right now, all over the place, we're seeing this. So if you cooperated, this would have never, ever happened. Alex would have been here. Tim Waltz, it's on you, Fry. It's on you. All you have to do is work hand in hand with the US Government. Do you remember the one mayor, I believe, that was in D.C. saying, yeah, we're working with the White House because we want the streets to get cleaner. And guess what? The President has cleaned up the city. And she is not a Republican. But she was cooperating. Why? Because she wanted to make sure her people were safer. You are playing politics. The blood of Alex Priddy is in the hands of Tim Waltz and in the hands of Jacob Fry. This could have been prevented. It could have been prevented if you cooperated. What are the states that ICE has been sent to? What cities? What states? It's not every state. It's not every city. I think it's California, Louisiana. I think Maine is another one. I think Illinois, Chicago is another one. And I think Minnesota is another one. If it's really Trump's trying to target everybody, why is he not doing it in all 50 states? Why not? Maybe those mayors, maybe those local officials, maybe those local PDs are giving that report back to him. Maybe they are, so they don't have to. Maybe they're working as something called a team to make America safer. A team. And then, by the way, so let's do this. Let's role play this. So let's just say the folks in Minneapolis that want to be safe, that are sick and tired of the fraud, but they're not allowed people, the families in Chicago who are going around saying, enough with these crimes. I want my kid to play outside without me being. Being worried about or be afraid. Afraid of it, right? So now let's talk to those families who actually want the President to come and intervene. What if the President doesn't? So go to the other situation. Let's not send ice. Do you know what happens if you don't send it? It's your fault. If you do send it, it's your fault. Do you get the formula? It doesn't matter what happens. It's called the Rules for Radicals. Rob, can you go online and just Type up chat GBT? What are the 13 rules for radicals? Let's just read it. Open hand. This is their playbook, folks. What are the 13 rules for radicals? One by one by one. This is their playbook that they use. Okay, that's exactly the one by Alinsky. Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have. Perception of power is often as important as real power. Number two, never go outside the experience of your people. If people don't understand it, they won't support it. Three, whenever possible, go outside the experience of the enemy. Confuse, exhaust and destabilize them. It's exactly what they're doing. Number four, make the enemy live up to their own book of rules. Use their standards against them. They'll often fail to meet them. The reporter from cnn, I believe it's Dana, asking the guy, the. The. Not the director, but one of the guys that was up there, he's like, so are you saying that Alex didn't have the right for second Amendment? This was kind of surprising for somebody. That's a sec. This is what they do. They'll use it. Say that again. That's in the playbook right there. Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It's hard to counter and infuriates opponents. Keep ridiculing them.

[Tom]

You're a fascist.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That's right. A good tactic is one your people enjoy. If it's fun, people will keep doing it. A tactic that drags on too long becomes a dragon. Keep pressure fresh and dynamic. Keep the pressure on. Never let up. Relentless action is how you win. The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself. Anticipation often creates more fear than action. If you push a negative hard enough, it will break through enough into its counter side. Overreach, forces, reaction and concessions. The price of successful attack is constructive alternative. You must have a solution ready, which, by the way, we're going to get into their solution as well. Humberto. I'm going to come to you with that, with their solution, what they're planning on doing next, probably with their NGOs, the DA, everything that they have control over. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it and polarize it. Don't fight systems, fight symbols and people. Target, target, target. Isolate, simplify and focus attacks until the opponent cracks. That's what they're doing. And by the way, they've done this so many times. And you know who it works on? Whoever's. The youngest generation and the old and emotional that just want their Social Security. Okay. The people that can think for themselves. You have to see through what's going on here. They needed this crisis. They needed Alex Pretty. They need this more than you know, because in every possible way. Did you see the approval rating for Trump that came up, Rob? You guys see the approval rating that just came up for Trump? 49% more. Yeah.

[Vinny]

And 70% are extremely positive.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. So this was a report that we just talked about a couple of days ago on, on X. The. It was on. It was on our group text that we sent to each other, Rob, which I'll send it to you in a minute, for us to show up. So to me, this could have been prevented. All you had to do was cooperate. You refused to cooperate because of that this took place. Vinnie.

[Vinny]

Well, well, I mean, you basically laid out exactly what the hell is going on. But let's, let's take a, just a really step back because I want people.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Right there real quick since you show that.

[Vinny]

Rob.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Rasmussen report. Trump's overnight presidential job approval is in single overnight approval for last night. 49.58% is the highest in over a month. His approval is up today in a five single day rolling. By the way, can you do me a favor and maybe I'll play this clip and I'll come to you?

[Tom]

Okay.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Meanwhile, here's what a guy who's allegedly part of Antifa what he's saying in his video, he's literally telling people to grab arms. Let's go watch this clip. Don't show the whole thing, but let's show the first 10, 20 seconds.

[Vinny]

My name is Kyle. I'm Antifa, and there's so much rage.

[Patrick Bet-David]

In me that I've had to record.

[Tom]

This like 15 times trying to get the message. Job.

[Vinny]

They up.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay, go watch my other videos.

[Tom]

Doesn't matter. If you're not here and you're not.

[Vinny]

Caught up, you've missed the fight.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But if you are, it's time to suit up. Boots on the ground.

[Vinny]

Nicolet and 26th.

[Patrick Bet-David]

My house is four blocks away.

[Vinny]

Anywhere between Franklin and Nicollet and 26th.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And Nick, pause it right there. They want this. They want this to go to 100. They need the temperature to go to the roof. They need that. So this is rules for radicals, folks. It's working. They want that momentum because it was going too much on the other side. Davos, everybody's listening to Trump. Everything's going good. Negotiations are taking place. No, no, we need this. We can't have somebody go out there and be able to win all as much as he is. There's no way we can have that. They need to divide, Vinnie.

[Vinny]

And by the way, I don't know if it's true or not, Rob, but allegedly, this guy, when he's talking about boots on the ground, I think it might be stiletto boots because he's wearing dresses, if I'm not mistaken. Rob, that guy is. What would you. Would you call him? Allegedly Rob. Is that the guy? This guy right here, if that's him.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Is it the same guy?

[Vinny]

I mean, look at the tattoos. I don't know. Look at the tattoo on the neck.

[Humberto Bellard]

Yeah.

[Tom]

Take a look at the face tattoo.

[Vinny]

Is that him?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

Is that the boots? So listen, he has a lot going on in his world, in his life, so I'm pretty sure he's really confused. But could we just take a step back? Why, besides the billions and the distraction, why? I've been trying to wrestle with this. Why are Democrats, Tom, so pro illegals? They don't care about the. All the young girls that are getting raped and murdered. And I thought about it. Deportations threaten Democratic Party power. Because think about it. For four years, when we were on this podcast, screaming and going, dude, the border is wide open. Why? Why? And Alejandro Mayorkas would sit in Congress importing voters, importing 15 to 20 million people, and every time we talk, they told us to shut up because we were racist. Okay? So now all these people are in four years of military age, men that are doing whatever they want in this country. And by the way, they don't care, guys. They don't care about the 300,000 missing children that went missing at the border, okay? Sex slave, sex trafficking, cheap labor. Trump has found 600, I'm sorry, 60,000 of them, and actually recovered them. But if you think about it, these are their voters. The more voters, they're dying to give them amnesty. That's why they don't want these people to have to show ID to vote. Remember that whole, oh, it's racist if you show them, if you ask them for IDs, this is the game plan. Because when you're the Democratic Party and you have nothing, you have no policy, you have no leaders, you have nothing. What is the Democratic Party running on right now? This is what they have. It's chaos, Tom.

[Humberto Bellard]

You.

[Vinny]

It's illegals. We love illegals because they are our voters, okay? Once those are gone, Trump is deporting voters. They're going crazy because they're losing their base. You understand? Who's the number one frontrunner? Gavin Newsom. And what's his policy? I want, I'm proud that I give illegals free this and free that and come to California. That's it. That's all this is about. They're hemorrhaging voters. Donald Trump is single handedly taking every single one of their votes and plucking them, and they have to fight to keep it.

[Tom]

So there's a layer of things happening and people got to stay with the story. And it's not complicated. Number one, you know, you have Nick Shirley and others are exposing what's going on. We're also exposing the illegal immigration and we're deporting their voters. And we're finding out how in the Somali community. This is just a case study of what's happening everywhere that the Democrats are using. They have a playbook to create these NGOs and to get money in, and then that money goes in into the campaign. So when you start deporting people and you start shining the light on the daycare and everything in Minnesota, you start dismantling the fraud machine that they've been using to stay in power. There's also a shift in electoral votes going south. Believe it or not, in, they know it in 32, not 28, but 32. Minnesota can go red. When you look at where the electoral votes are going to be in the districts. Minneapolis is everything from Minnesota in terms of presidential election. So when you look and see what's happening, deport people, take away the voters, expose the fraud, expose the money. Suddenly the spotlight in a week and a half was on who?

[Vinny]

Tim Wallace.

[Tom]

Correct.

[Vinny]

Jacob Fry and Ilhan Olman.

[Tom]

Exactly. And suddenly there are shock troops and their own military coming to help them. I've been looking at things all weekend. There is a Special Forces warrant officer that described the U.S. military Handbook of dismantling insurgency. He said, you're seeing it step by step. And he was talking, step here, step there. What we're seeing, he said, this is phase one of something we've spent decades trying to keep down internationally that now is in our own soil. The revolutionary machine. This is an amazing account. It's 11 pages long. Comes from Insurrection Barbie, talking about the playbook they're publishing, the playbook that these folks are using and indicating where and how it's being funded by people like Code Pink and Singham, who you pointed out, the billionaire or near billionaire that's overseas, that's floating it in. You have people like Jonathan Turley that pointed out, he says, look, go take a look at what Chris Mays, attorney general is saying. Said, don't see them as real law enforcement. And there is a possibility of citizens, you know, encountering them and shooting them under state law. You've got attorney general saying that Tim Waltz leading it and saying the public should not treat border patrol or ISA officer as real law enforcement. These are responses because the whole system is being dismantled by Trump. Deportation, exposure of voter fraud, exposure of the fraud happening in daycare centers. It's just the beginning and the reaction you're having having here they are protecting the mechanism that they have been building for 10 years.

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[Patrick Bet-David]

Humberto.

[Humberto Bellard]

We had an amazing dinner two weeks ago and we talked about likability. Right? Nobody likes the ally. All right? They don't like the lady that got shot last time. They don't like this guy that got shot this week. They don't like the antifa guy because he's not part of the crowd. He's an ally. Like, likability in these situations is very important. What happens with the video of the ally that he's talking about? Like, imagine, Vinny, if you did the same video a year ago before Trump was president, and you're like, oh, we're going to go to the border and we're going to round up all these pesky Chileans and throw them outside the border. You will be arrested immediately. All right, so even though that guy's a radical, he hasn't seen institutional power behind him. Right. He has DAs, he has elected officials, he has people that will bail him out. He has NGO money. All right, that's the scary thing about this. Like, this looks a guy that will dress like a woman and hassle the tattoos and everything.

[Vinny]

He knows he's protected.

[Humberto Bellard]

He's protected.

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Humberto Bellard]

All right.

[Vinny]

Think about the two, the two black girls that went into the church, which, by the way, there's some details of the court filings that came out. I, I'll, I'll have Rob show you. Pat, did you hear what they were doing, what they were actually doing in the church? Women broke their arms, and these people were running up to children, grabbing kids in the hallway that were brought in the daycare. And they were yelling, wow, where does it say terrorizing children? Kids were weeping. One of them grabbed the kid. I think it's on the next page. Robbie grabbed the kid and said, do you know that your father, your parents are Nazis? Look in the bottom. Your parents are Nazis. And then on the next page, you had screaming Nazi. And then they looked at one of the kids and said, you know, your father is going to burn in hell. Those two people were arrested, and in two days, the judge, Biden appointed judge releases them from jail. So it's not even. It's not even. What are we even doing now?

[Humberto Bellard]

It's like, not only here, it's international. They spend millions of dollars on having people that will bail them out. Now, the big question here is why? What are they trying to achieve on the long run? Because we're going to have more murder, we're going to have more insurrections. When I have more things burned down until we don't discover what's the objective. Like, do they want a constitutional amendment? Do they want to change, you know, government? What, what do they want to do?

[Vinny]

They just want to burn it. Alberto. These are the joker, like the movie Joker, Joaquin Phoenix, the first one. They just want to burn it down.

[Humberto Bellard]

The same as those. Those are the ground soldiers and they.

[Tom]

Have to break the American family and then break the American Constitution.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What is the opposite argument? Give me this. What, what, what is the opposition saying? What is their argument against everything that's going on right now? Logical argument. Give me the logical argument. The opposition is giving.

[Vinny]

Trump is a dictator and he's being authoritative and he's being like Hitler. I mean, that's the easy go to is Trump is being Hitler. He's sending out these.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But that's not logical to me. That's emotional. Give me the logical player. What is the logical player saying?

[Tom]

You may not agree with it, but being anti trans is anti personal rights. That person has the right to be like that. You're taking away their right to be. And if kids don't know where they are, you're preventing children from experiencing who they are. They have the right. A lot of the things that they're talking about in globalism, Pat, is you have to create rights for others and create groups where you can tell them that their rights are being impugned. It goes right back to what was a good cause that happened in American civil rights movement where we said all people should have rights regardless of who they are and all created equal. All men are created equal. What the Dems and what the logical side of globalist and the far left Dems is, is to create a right in a person that sounds logical. So you're defending them and you create a victim in them. And what you're really doing is intentionally breaking the moral code and the structure of the society as it is.

[Vinny]

I'll give you another one. This is America, okay? We should have the open, bring them in, let them come here because they're escaping their country and their country is bad. They need to come here because the Statue of Liberty says come here, bring your week, bring everything. This is America. We're supposed to accept everybody, refugees. Like, listen, but they're illegal, they have a record. They're fleeing their country, Patrick. They're fleeing their country, and yet if they come here and they have a baby here, that baby has to be taken care of and protected. That's it. That's it. Anybody should come here and Mind you, these. The. The people that are the loudest are the ones protected. They're in gated communities. They have security. They're not dealing with any of this. That's what. That's what drives me crazy. They're not dealing. Tim Walls is never going to get the phone call. Hey, Tim. Yeah. Your daughter. Yeah. I'm sorry to tell you she was murdered by an illegal. He's not going to get that. She has security. She's protected. They're never going to get that phone call, so it's never going to affect them. And he's never going to care. None of them. You think Barack Obama. Barack Obama's out there putting out a letter, basically telling people, guys, keep going, keep going. This is the guy that's still in the lead, still in the lead for deportations, 2025. Trump was behind it by almost 200,000. By the way, this is. You heard his attitude in 2013 about the border. Yeah. You saw.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Not an emperor. This is a good clip to watch. You know, I'm the President of the United States. I'm not the emperor of the United States. My job is to execute laws that are passed. And Congress right now has not changed what I consider to be a broken immigration system. And what that means is, is that we have certain obligations to enforce the laws that are in place. Even if we think that in many cases the results may be tragic. There are going to be some stories that break our hearts. And more importantly, we're going to continue to have an economy that is stifled by a really inefficient system where not only are we deporting folks, but we also have a legal immigration system that is so bottlenecked that it forces sometimes people into the illegal system. You know, I'm the President of the United States.

[Humberto Bellard]

I'm not.

[Vinny]

Isn't that like, what.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Isn't that weird, logical argument.

[Tom]

But remember from Saul Alinsky, the stuff you just showed Pat?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Tom]

To the playbooks we're seeing. Their first point of trigger is emotion, Tom.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But that's not it, though. You're right, but what I'm trying to tell you is my friend would always tell me, he says, you know what? I don't know why, Pat, but every time a Democrats in the Protestants goes away, I just want to be peaceful. I said, that's part of the playbook, guy. That's what they're supposed to sell you. They just won. They got a guy that does $100 million a year in revenue to make that comment. How many of your employees are not going to believe that. They're going to say, well, if he's doing 100 Millionaire, he must know what he's talking about. He says when Democrats are there, there's no protesting. Yes, because Republicans have jobs. Republicans don't go hire agitators to say come out there. And that's the playbook of the opposing side. Now, by the way, you have to realize they have their own set of mistakes and issues that they're dealing with. We're not sitting here saying it's perfection there as well. But when it comes down to this, well, why, why were there so good to Obama? Because it's the left cooperating with the left. Why would they not cooperate with the left? It's don't cooperate with the right and this will continue of them not cooperating with the right because the right is the enemy. This is a playbook that keeps happening over and over and over and over again. Rob, can you go back to my Twitter account? I put this one thing there. Again, this was. Go back to the previous one if you could go up a little bit. Right there, that one right there. The left formula for creating chaos. Label opponents as Hitler, Gestapo, extremists. Use that language that inflames stoke, emotion, hate, fear, animosity. Deploy NGOs to fund paid protesters and agitators. Raise tensions until violence erupts. Exploit the crisis and blame Trump. Amplify chaos, gaslight the American people. Win elections. Implement bad policies that weaken America and empowers enemies which by the way, the border, the crimes. The public eventually recognized the manipulation. You lose the next election. Reset, repeat the same playbook. Voters, forget the previous administration. Assume you've changed long term. Goal, destabilize and destroy America. It's a very simple playbook and it's happening right before our eyes over and over again. So now this is the question for us to be thinking about. Do you think this is it or do you think the temperatures are going to go here, here, or do you think this is the highest we hit?

[Vinny]

It's going to go more. Especially when are you ready for this? When an ICE agent gets severely injured because they're biting off their fingers and they're, you know the guy yesterday in front of the hotel that was protecting him, Wait until now. The law enforcement, something happens on that side, it's going to go even worse because there is nothing worse than a on edge, already scared because they're. But like you said, guys, that real time stuff, all the people out there that are talking about guns, they've never held a gun. They've never been in that type of situation. Once they, an ICE agent gets killed. Because that's the goal. That's the, the rhetoric that they want. Once that happens, Pat, now you're not gonna have both people, both sides ready to go. It's gonna get worse. Guarantee it's gonna get worse, especially in the next couple months, midterms.

[Humberto Bellard]

I disagree a little bit, but there's a point where we call this a low intensity civil war. Right. Is right on the verge. It never breaks out because once it gets too hot, it's not. It's no longer useful. All right, because you like, if, if, if the, you know, if the fights get too hot, if there's too many weapons on the street, they can make institutional changes. They can't get a guy elected afterwards. They can get money for the NGOs. So they keep it, like, if it's out of 10, they will keep it at a five out of five out of five out of five. They will let it go. You need to know that the media, like Pat Cover that they gave Lake and Riley 22 minutes. All right? So they're a little. I mean, they're in control of the mass population still. Like, things are changing, you know, where the new media and everything, but they're still in control of the narrative. They put it together. All right? So whatever matters, they will hide. Whatever they want to show, they will show. And if it gets too hot, it's no longer useful.

[Vinny]

And I think the President, I could see that point. I love.

[Humberto Bellard]

Trump has other tools.

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Humberto Bellard]

You know what I mean? If it gets too hot, he has.

[Vinny]

And I love that you brought that up because, because people. And I was at fault, too, last week. I was like, insurrection Act. Insurrection Act. That's exactly what they want. The moment he calls for that, they're going to say, you see, he's Hitler, he's a Nazi. He put Gestapo.

[Humberto Bellard]

It's part of the playbook.

[Vinny]

The action perfect, though. He's not doing it.

[Humberto Bellard]

The action is a reaction.

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Humberto Bellard]

All right.

[Vinny]

But he's playing it perfect, I think.

[Tom]

So I'm going to go a little inverse here. I believe the future looks bright because I trust the Constitution, I trust the next generation, and I trust that there's 50% of people right now think the President's doing a good job. I trust voices that are pointing out, look, these people have systems and they're circulating it and they're making themselves be aware. I believe the future looks bright, but I think we have stage one Cancer and the chemotherapy and the treatment, Pat, is going to be rough, and I think it's going to get a little bit hotter and a little bit heavier. But I think that that flame and that heat is going to purify and strengthen the ultimate response that I see below the surf surface and I see coming. But I think it's going to get a little bit hotter now. They don't have their, their person of color with children getting run over in the street by a federal vehicle. They don't have that yet. They want that. They do not have the, the really big martyr they want and they're going to keep pushing for it. So it's going to get tough and it's going to get rough for a little while. But I believe the future looks bright because I'm seeing things such as that president poll and these people bringing things out. Pat. I see it. And I believe that below the surface there's an America and there's a spine and a backbone and a bright tomorrow.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Oh, Tom, Just so you know, I'm 100% there. But you have to also realize, like.

[Tom]

You, I'm not trying to convince.

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, no, no, no. When we first started our insurance company, seven people are in the room. Okay. It's, it's 3:30 in the morning. I'm looking at everybody, I'm looking at left. I said, we're starting an insurance company and one guy runs out to get his first application in. He wants to be the first guy to be there. No problem. But I said, let me just tell you guys something here. As excited as you guys are, two of you will turn against us and become enemies. Oh, that will never happen. I said 100%. But I said it the night we started a company. So September 24th, morning. So it's 23rd, evening, going into 24th. As the two of you return within 90 days, two of them turn against the company. Weird. And we moved on. You have to realize it's expected. There's nobody that goes to this next level not expecting games and manipulation and any of that stuff. I'm just wondering for those guys. By the way, that Brian Krassenstein thing that you showed this morning, which I was surprised. I had no idea. Can you pull this up, Rob? A pit. Tom, what did you find about him?

[Tom]

So Cam Higby and others were able to find a list of the people that were in the signal chat and they created a screen capture. And then many people created the screen capture because the signal chat was broken and broke open and exposed. So you have not one person with AI, multiple people showing it. Okay, so let's put that first platform path. You know what I mean?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yep.

[Tom]

And then Brian Krassten. Not Ed, but it showed that Brian. Now, Ed may have been in there too, but this particular one was Brian. Brian Krasentine's in there. And people are saying, what the hell is Brian Krazintine doing in the signal chat for Minneapolis to foment discord and to interfere with federal officers doing their job from multiple agencies? And so people started doing that, and all of a sudden, Brian comes out, almost like he has to say something. I can't read his mind, but he comes out, yes, it's true. I'm in the signal group chat. Cry some more, maga. It's like he's daring people to come after it. But other people now are also pointing up. They're going, wait a minute, dude. If you're in the signal chat, you could be accessory to inciting these riots and interfering with federal officers. And so Kransetine got busted. So a long time people have. There've been allegations out there, and you can find them. And these are allegations that the Cranston brothers have been taking money from liberal NGOs and that's been funding them. Allegations are everywhere. You know, who knows what's right? But it's interesting that there's so many people and that these guys go to such extents to deny it, but that's what we're seeing today. So you have a liberal pundit, Pat, who's out there, who was in the signal chat along with the lieutenant governor, was the admin.

[Vinny]

Oh, by the way. And he. Him and his brother, they're the ones that are out there, like, showing people's names. He's like. He's like, make this person famous. Where's his address?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Where's this?

[Vinny]

These guys are dangerous. They're doxing. And mind you, like, you guys nailed it. He's untouchable. How can he get away with it? And what did he respond to? The bottom bra. What's his response to the person right there? What's he saying?

[Tom]

We must fight that.

[Vinny]

Ignorance is genuinely baffling. Like, it's that they walk around. Tom, when you know that you're not going to get arrested and not get.

[Tom]

And look. And look who they were flagging, by the way.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I want you to show, because you know who Elon tweets. You know who retweeted, oh, Elon saw this. Rob, can you pull up what I just text you? Elon retweeted the list of names in that group. Okay, so those guys are going to play their games. That's kind of where I was going with this. There's going to be agitators like this. Look at this. Elon retweeted it. Zoom in a little bit. Thank you. Minneapolis signal infiltrated. I have infiltrated organizational signal groups all around Minneapolis with the sole intention of tracking down federal agents and impeding assaulting and obstructing them. Buckle up. We will be. But all will be revealed. Each area of the city has a signal or several signals. Let's start with a screen recording of the members of the south side of the. So look, everyone's name is in there. And you can kind of go and look who's in there. But. But you know, this is going to continue. The enemy's not going to stop. They're not going to stop playing games. The interesting part here, which is kind of annoying to them, is the guy they're going up against if the. I'm willing to say if the President doesn't lose the 2020 election, whatever you want to call 2020 election, if he's not in there in 2020, he doesn't do as good of a job he's doing right now as a president as he would have had. You know why? Let me explain to you why. So you come in four years, your president, you choose the wrong team. Yes. You choose Pence, Backstabs. You.

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You choose. How many names can we say that? They flipped on them. Right.

[Vinny]

The Pump, Pale, the freaking. All the. All of them.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And everybody would probably do. Do things like, he's just a business guy. He has no clue what's going on. This guy's a lightweight. We will run this. We'll run this. We'll run this. And then he starts fired, fired, fired, fired, fired. Now he's by himself, almost by himself. At the end of the term, if you think about it, his own VP turns against him, of course. Okay, so then for four years, all you're watching is how terrible of a human being you are. For four years, behind closed doors, he's strategizing and studying the playbook, talking to everybody and anybody. You don't think information is coming back to him? Everything's coming back to him. Then he comes back for the third term, okay. Which is now the third term. You know how well trained he is for this job, knowing all the playbooks. He knows all of them. Anything and everything they try to do has been filtered out. And he reads through 90% of the BS, the 10% still gets through, but 90% of BS, that's an enemy. You don't want a guy like that to go through. That's who they're dealing with. We're going to see what happens next. The decisions he makes next with this. I don't see this thing slowing down. And by the way, if you want to go through a couple different things here. Rob, pull up what AOC said. Here's AOC urging US Senate to block ICE funding after armed protester fatally shot in Minneapolis. Go ahead, Rob. Foregone conclusion, but again, Democrats do have the ability.

[Humberto Bellard]

There are 10 Republicans do need 10 Democratic votes in the United States Senate.

[Patrick Bet-David]

To pass continued unfettered ICE voting with.

[Vinny]

No guardrails as it stands.

[Humberto Bellard]

And I think that regardless of where you are in the Democratic Party, this.

[Vinny]

Moment and this incident proves that the status quo cannot stand.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And I would implore my Democratic colleagues.

[Vinny]

In the Senate to vote no against.

[Humberto Bellard]

Maintaining this DHS funding as it stands.

[Vinny]

This is their new defund the police. This is it. Take the money away, defund the police, take the money away, and get them less trained and less thing. Instead of her saying, hey, guys, just, let's just get the illegals out. 70% of them are bad. Let's just. Let's just clean house. And like, it's unbelievable. You're right, it's going to. This is working.

[Tom]

And it's scary because they're working. Oh, yeah, they're close to it because you have. Remember, you've got these Republicans that always tend to go on social issues. They jump over. Lisa Murkowski, Alaska, I believe. Both senators in Maine and one in Pennsylvania. That's four of the six we need. You only need two bleeding hearts to go along with this. And they can get what they want to do here, parliamentary style.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Humberto.

[Humberto Bellard]

This could pass, you know, like, that's the thing. Like, you see, you have all the noise on the street and she is taking whatever is happening on the street into the Senate. You know what I mean? And this is the dangerous thing. This one real changes happen. And they're all working together. You have the media working together. You have the guys in the street working together. And this is taking the action on the street to something tangible that could pass with the midterms coming around. You know who comes up for the midterms? The most radical from both sides. The most radical Republicans and most radical Democrats. This. This will open up. This will open up new votes. And. And it's scary. And we should be paying attention to.

[Patrick Bet-David]

This actually, Rob, what is this? Government shutdown on Saturday.

[Tom]

Yeah, there's a cow. She on. If the government's going to shut down.

[Humberto Bellard]

I believe the deadline is midnight Friday.

[Tom]

Night, which means the shutdown will start Saturday morning.

[Patrick Bet-David]

This Friday night.

[Tom]

This Friday night.

[Vinny]

And look how much money is in there.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Nine, eight million dollars already. Rob.

[Tom]

Yes, sir.

[Vinny]

Are you like, come on, like that's what they want and they're gonna get it. 80%. 80%.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What's the date when it spikes? Can you go to the date of the spike? Oh, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. Boom, right there. 24th. So when from. It went from what to what, Rob?

[Tom]

Went from 11.5 chance on Saturday up to 75% chance.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Oh, my God.

[Vinny]

That's when Alex. That's when Alex. That's when the nurse was shot.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yes. Oh, weird night.

[Vinny]

Weird.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Overnight it goes up. You got to be 64% overnight. Government shutdown. And by the way, so you know, you can't let a crisis go to waste. Here's what Newsom is talking about. Gavin Newsom launches vicious attack on president over death of armed anti ice protesters. Trump made a shooting happened. Rob, do you have that clip of what he said yesterday? Hundreds of thousands of thousands filled the streets of Minnesota, marching in subzero temperatures in a peaceful protest. Not the excuse to invoke the insurrection act the president wanted. So today, Trump made a shooting cap and the president must end his violent occupation of Minnesota. Now. Rob, do you have the clips of them protesting in the streets?

[Vinny]

I'll grab one.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Tens of thousands of people. Vinny, what do you see? What do you think about when you're seeing Newsom saying what he's saying?

[Vinny]

Well, he, of all people, I think I mentioned a little bit earlier, he's the front runner. He's the guy Kelsey has him on, on that polling ads. He's the number one guy. There's only. There's only one reason. He was the only governor to get flown to Davos, to go there and do his presidential, you know, run, even though they didn't give him the real talk. But he had the interview. This guy, California is the exact example of what they want and how they want it to keep going. Okay, open the border, keep giving them all this, all the. All the free stuff, and they're going to keep coming in. He's the epitome. He's the epitome of what's happening. And for all the stuff that's happening in his country, in his state, all the crime, I don't Want to keep saying the R word. All the theft, all the homelessness, all the. Everything. He's their guy. And if we're going to keep going, Umberto, like you're talking about, on emotion and everything, and all the white liberal women who are the ones that are going to be voting, that actually change the vote, it's.

[Tom]

Don't forget angry.

[Vinny]

Yeah, very angry.

[Patrick Bet-David]

This is the protesting. This is it.

[Tom]

I'm looking to verify the date on this, but it seems to be January 23rd.

[Humberto Bellard]

Yeah, January 23rd.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So before. So go to the chat to see if Grock verified it already.

[Tom]

It did.

[Humberto Bellard]

Right here.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It did. Okay. Can we see it? Rob, can you just play it to see what it looks like? At least get somebody that knows how to rhyme.

[Vinny]

Here's my question for you. Besides the midterms, I think the midterms. The Democrats are gonna take the midterms. Do you think this. This event, this moment in time is going to last till 2028 with this momentum to. That's going to hurt a Rubio or a J.D. vance? Because they're going to be the front runners? That's. That's the real question to me, because I believe I one, I'm 1,000%. I don't say the future looks bright just because it's a cool. No, I truly believe it. Besides me being a Christian, because I know that's people like us and people like, you know, those stronger Republicans that are stepping up and speaking out. Do you think this is what. What is going to be their thing? They can't ride this wave for another three years. Renee. Good. Alex Preddy. What is.

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, but remember the. The thirteen rules for radicals, Rob, if you go back to it, he. They specifically say you have to move on if it gets stale.

[Vinny]

Got you.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So remember one of the rules. I thought it was number six. Rob, go up a little bit. Zoom in. It's hard to encounter. Right there. Go, go. Which one is it?

[Vinny]

7.

[Tom]

A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So they. They will move on quick to the next thing. They can't.

[Vinny]

This is their mid. Midterm thing. And the Cal State thing just showed us. This is their midterm thing.

[Humberto Bellard]

Vinnie, this didn't start. This is like phase four. Like, remember LA two months ago, like the riots and everything?

[Vinny]

Yeah, but we forgot about it.

[Humberto Bellard]

Then it died down a little bit, and now it's Minnesota. And then you just need to change the city, change the victim, and then move on and do it again and do it again and do it again.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. So, by the way, last clip here, and I want to go to Jennings. Can you play the clip by Zoran Mamdani, rap on saying what happened here is inhumane and pledges to fight them in New York City. Go ahead.

[Vinny]

You have been horrified, as many people have, by what's been happening with ICE in Minneapolis. Do you worry that Donald Trump would try to do something similar here in New York City? And if he does, what do you do about it? I think just to first take a moment about Minneapolis. It is horrific what we have seen there. And I think that there are too many Americans who are being asked to not believe their own eyes, not believe their own ears, not believe their own realities. And people want to hear the truth. They want to see the truth. And that's why I described that as a murder, because there's no other way to watch that video and come to a different conclusion. And we know that the fear that so many are living with in Minneapolis, it's a fear that New Yorkers are also living with, a fear of being terrorized. And I will do everything in my power to ensure that we do not see that take place in New York City. And I've also said clearly to the President that these ICE raids, they are cruel, they are inhumane, they do nothing to serve the interests of public safety.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You can pause it right there. By the way, this was made a few days before the shooting. So this is not post. This is before. And one of the announcements that Mamdani made. Rob, if you want to pull this up. Mom, Donnie made an announcement that New York City will be offering free child care to illegal immigrants. Okay, so Mamdani made this clip and this went viral. This probably three, four days ago when it went viral. If you want to play this clip, go forward. Rob.

[Vinny]

These are programs for every single New Yorker. These are not programs that are going to ask the immigration status of any one of the children. All of those children are New Yorkers. They should all be enrolled in Pre k and 3k, no matter where they were born or where they come from. And we are also proud to be.

[Patrick Bet-David]

A free child care for illegal immigrant families.

[Tom]

Can I ask you, they are New Yorkers.

[Vinny]

From a New Yorker, I hope if even one New Yorker listens to this. Do you understand what he's saying? He's saying, bring your illegal kid, because who's attached to the illegal kid? The illegal father, the illegal mother. Get here. We will not only protect you and let you hopefully vote and do everything, the New York taxpayer is going to pay for it all. So as a New Yorker, what the hell are you doing, Pat? It boggles my mind. I can't. When you see that video. As a New Yorker, what are you doing? The real deal. New Yorkers that are busting their butts every day, going to work in the snow with the drama, with the crime. And you're fine with that? I don't understand all the young, boomer, whatever, whoever the hell is voting. You're stupid, you're uneducated, you're uninformed. That is a freaking. That's saying, hey, just trust me. I don't give a damn about Trump. I don't care about the federal government. You come here, we're going to pay for you. We're going to pay for your kid. Where Tom, am I losing my mind?

[Tom]

No, you're not. And see all the things that he campaigned on. You have to look at the. What's needed right now. What's needed right now is emotional triggers. And when he came out and people found out behind the curtain that, oh, buses were going to be free or, you know, cut in half on price, not the subway. And people are saying, why in the subway free? Why aren't we doing this? Oh, he had to explain his way around that, right?

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Tom]

And he doesn't have budget to keep the subway going unless they keep collecting fares. And the new subway turnstiles where we're being failed. If you just hung a hoodie on one thing and then the thing popped open and all your friends walk through, grab your hoodie and go. So he doesn't have an emotional thing. Children, childcare. Now it's an emotional issue where he is the benevolent dictator bringing emotion to the fore to be giving something for free because give it to them for free, win their vote. That's the playbook. This is on brand and on time. Giving the backdrop of what's happening elsewhere.

[Humberto Bellard]

We need to pass a law like the word free doesn't exist. It's taxpayer funded. All right, then nothing is free. Like not, not the buses, not the child care, no, nothing. Like, I think we should pass a law in Congress and Senate to like, like every government official that uses the word free, it needs to be changed to taxpayer because like, it's very different because like, I don't know, like here in the Miami area you have the, the, the STD testing ones. Have you seen them around the street? And it says free testing and it's actually us paying for the.

[Vinny]

Yeah, you're right.

[Humberto Bellard]

Yeah, you know, it's us paying for the Child care. It's us paying for the free condoms.

[Vinny]

Nothing is free.

[Humberto Bellard]

Doesn't exist from the government.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Imagine, like, of all the things to upset you, free STD testing is what's upsetting. Humberto. Like, honestly, pay it. Pay it yourself.

[Humberto Bellard]

I won't get into it. But there's. There's moral reasons why it upsets.

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, no, I get that. Because you don't get the pleasure. So why are you exactly paying for somebody else's pleasure?

[Tom]

Scientists in jail, like Al Capone.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Umberto is very, very interesting, but free.

[Humberto Bellard]

Free is not. It's never free.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You're right. It's such. It's. It's one of the. It's a curse word. Right? It's a manipulative word. It's the worst four letter F word we have. Right. If you think about it, that it is the easiest way to manipulate people. And so Bill Maher is not too happy with Mamdani. Here's what Bill Maher had to say about Mamdani. So Bill is minding his own business, doing his own show, and then all of a sudden, boom. Here's Bill Maher on Mamdani. Go for it, Rob.

[Tom]

It matters that the mayor stands by.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And so I assume, stands with someone who says things like, if you don't believe in the government's sacred right to.

[Tom]

Seize private property, it's over. Seize private property? Home ownership is racist.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Elect more communists.

[Tom]

Private property, especially home ownership, is a weapon of white supremacy.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Really? Even among the 20 million black Americans.

[Tom]

Who own their own home?

[Patrick Bet-David]

I mean, these are the kind of.

[Tom]

Utterances I might forgive as something a dumb white girl said while she was at Bryn Mawr. Because it's the kind of privilege hating.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You can only learn for $95,000 a year.

[Tom]

But these are statements made as an adult. Yes, for co EDS from elite private colleges. You're only a lesbian until graduation.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But the communism lasts a lifetime.

[Tom]

Democrats seem to be having this debate whether or not Mayor Mamdani is a socialist or a democratic socialist.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Let me settle it. He's a straight up communist. How do I know this? Get the clapping. Not that much.

[Humberto Bellard]

Nope.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Positive. Pause it right there. By the way, great point. They pull up the clapping side and they're. And 80% like, no, I'm not doing it. I'm not a crowd.

[Humberto Bellard]

He does.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It's not a tough crowd.

[Vinny]

No, it's a white liberal crowd in la.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What I'm trying to say is credit to him for saying this in front of a crowd that doesn't support him.

[Vinny]

Heck, yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

How many people clap? Go back, Rob.

[Vinny]

5, 20%?

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, it's. I think it's less.

[Tom]

15, 10.

[Patrick Bet-David]

15%. Go back and play it. Play it, Rob. Let's hear the clapping. How many. How many clap? Well, what hand is that?

[Vinny]

Go, go, go back, go back.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Can you do me a favor? This hbo, Rob?

[Tom]

Yes, sir.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay, so let's find this out. When Bill Mar does his HBO show, how many people are usually in the audience?

[Vinny]

150.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I want to know what the number. It's about 100. 150, right? That's the number. Have you been to it? You've been in front of Bill mo. It's about 100 to 150. Okay, so that it says about. It says about 100. Okay. Of the 100, how many clapped in that room? Yeah.

[Humberto Bellard]

10 minutes.

[Patrick Bet-David]

15. Go back again, Rob. I really want to go back 10 seconds. Go back 10 seconds. Keep going. Right there. That's good. Straight up communist.

[Tom]

How do I know this? 10?

[Patrick Bet-David]

It's not 100. Well, so his own audience is not happy with him. Go ahead, keep playing it in the lines.

[Tom]

When one of his major advisors says.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Elect more communists, which is fine.

[Tom]

It's fine. It's a belief system. He's allowed to believe it, and people are allowed to vote.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But if liberals deny it, like he's.

[Tom]

Just going through a goth phase, they're going to lose more elections.

[Patrick Bet-David]

This is not a communist country, and.

[Tom]

This is the pendulum never lands in the middle problem I'm always bitching about.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Really, the choices we get here are.

[Tom]

Either the worst version of crony capitalism.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Or communism, either a side deal for.

[Tom]

The Trump family every time he does business overseas, or the lady who says.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Impoverish the white middle class. Oh, yeah, there's a great campaign slogan for you.

[Tom]

Honestly, as New York mayoral races go, I was less creeped out by Anthony Weiner's dick.

[Vinny]

Well, I'll clap.

[Humberto Bellard]

I'd be clapping.

[Vinny]

Look at how funny.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What do you think about what he just said that Pat?

[Humberto Bellard]

I'm spitting like this guy.

[Patrick Bet-David]

As a guy from. By the way, take 30 seconds, tell the audience your background so they know where you're from.

[Humberto Bellard]

No, I'm. I'm sitting. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm sitting on the right all the time. That's why I'm country.

[Vinny]

Where are you from?

[Tom]

Go back a little bit. Who's. Who's Humberto?

[Humberto Bellard]

Who's me? Well, I was born in Chile, grew up in Dubai under monarchy best system, then came to school here. I like Democracy better, though. But I came here, went to school here, you know, and then I went back to Chile, run out of eyeballs. And then I sent an email to, to Valley team. I was like, hey, there's not enough Chileans. Like, I need more eyeballs.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You apply to us from Chile?

[Humberto Bellard]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Stop it.

[Humberto Bellard]

Yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't. Been hired.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Wow.

[Vinny]

We have to find out who's behind.

[Patrick Bet-David]

All right, well, welcome here. So now go back and tell your story of what you think about what Bill Maher said about this guy I.

[Humberto Bellard]

Love and hate at the same time. No, I'm telling you, scripted. Bill Maher, he's the best. Like, I, I think he's funny, he's witty, scripted. But when he's on Club Random, I'm like, who is this guy? You know what I mean? Like, I don't miss the HBO show, but I can't watch his podcast. Like, I don't know if I'm alone here, but he has some funny jokes there.

[Vinny]

But you know, you make a great point. You know why? Because he has over 10 to, I want to say 15 writers writing that monologue. And at least they're great delivery. Yeah, he's very talented the time though, because he know, dude, they're not. You think they're dumb. They're not watching the trends of, of mainstream media. You got to play both sides. That's why he's tolerable and why the show keeps going. If he was just all anti Trump, he went and sat with Trump. You think he really wanted to do that? Absolutely not.

[Humberto Bellard]

It's a great show, Vinny.

[Vinny]

No. By the way, if you think I sit there and watch that show, I just watch the clips, like in moments like this. But at the end of the day, you heard what he said. It's either crony capital capitalism or that guy.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Oh, really?

[Vinny]

Or what? Or what? Joe Biden. He doesn't mention Joe Biden. He doesn't mention Obama. He doesn't mention George Bush Jr. The freaking. The war guy. Like, come on, man. It's like you're never going to get something perfect. Who do they want? They want a perfect candidate.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Maybe let's, let's show some data because maybe Democrats are happy with Democrats. Here's a poll from Harry Anton Rob, if you want to pull up. And I mean, maybe this is going to prove us so wrong. It's going to be. We'll risk it. We'll play the clip and we'll risk it. I mean, this may, this may be a bad situation here. But go ahead, Rob. What is this poll? What do Democrats poll say about Democrats? Go ahead, Rob. Take a look at how Democrats who disapprove of congressional Democratic leaders.

[Humberto Bellard]

Hello.

[Patrick Bet-David]

We're talking about 57% in January of 2026, the second highest disapproval rate for Democratic leaders from their own party on record. It's only beat by what we saw.

[Tom]

Earlier on in this Congress when it was 61%. There's basically been no improvement.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Democrats hate their own congressional leaders. These numbers are awful, awful, awful. Man, I thought it was going to be the other way around. That's why I said I'll risk it.

[Tom]

But that's three off.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Why do you think that is, Tom? Why do you think that is?

[Tom]

Because guess what? The core, you know, you look at the fringes and what Bill Maher was talking about. The fringe, the fringe that got elected in New York City, and we're talking about the fringes and the core. The core has sensibility. Like we saw Bill Maher at his core speaking about a lot of what a lot of Americans feel. Oh, impoverish a white middle class. There's a campaign slogan. He's right. And now what you have here is the core of the Democrat Party does not like what they see. The core of the Democrats that are in Iowa, and there's a lot of Democrats in Iowa. I'd love to see. What do Iowa Democrats think about aoc? You know what you're going to see that. Wow, that's exactly what you're going to see.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So that's.

[Tom]

You want to go to outside suburban Chicago, people that have been Mayor Daley legacy Democrats for many, many years, grew up in, in blue. But we're not part of, you know, protest or things. Ask them what they think of AOCs, them what they think of Bernie. You know what you get that. That's exactly what it is. There's a core that looks at it and goes, man, I don't like this. Just like there's a core on the moderate Republicans right now that don't like what they see in the. And what they regard as, oh, this is military on the street just picking people up because they don't appreciate the difficulty of executing immigration reform and deporting people.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Vinny.

[Humberto Bellard]

We saw this happening, like to the richest man in the world. We saw Elon Musk, who was like dead center Democrat. And then over time, because of this, radicals, because of this. Now he's far right. You know, like, they're shifting. They're shifting. Like what? Exactly what Tom said, like normal establishment Guys that, you know, they want more fair treatment of the middle class and they want to give in a little bit more. Those guys have been alienated by all these crazy communists.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Humberto, is your wife also Chilean?

[Humberto Bellard]

No.

[Patrick Bet-David]

She's what?

[Humberto Bellard]

From a country that just got liberated.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Oh really? Yeah. Venezuela.

[Humberto Bellard]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay.

[Vinny]

She had a crazy story. It's a crazy, crazy story. But I just hope this translates to those voters because at the end of the day, what is it? We need those people. And I'm just being honest, to have the heart like, like the Elon's and all these people to shift because the Democrat. You know what, the Democratic party is basically like guys like I, I like. This is the analogy in my head. They have a losing football team franchise. They just, they're losing.

[Humberto Bellard]

They're the Jets.

[Vinny]

They're the, the Democrats are the Jets. I'm ready for this.

[Tom]

J E T S Lose, lose, lose.

[Vinny]

It's just over and over and now they just found out you ready for this? Their head coach is involved in cheating and their quarterback is doing drugs and there's a bunch of craziness. But as a Jets.

[Tom]

Meanwhile the freaking Patriots rebuilt and there they go again.

[Vinny]

Yeah, but you ready for this? But as a Jets fan, this is the problem. They're not going to leave. Remember that video of that kid that they stopped him and he goes, I just hate that being the jets fan. But I, what am I going to do? The kid was my parents fault, my parents fault. It's their fault.

[Tom]

I think it's a nice little kid. He's got a Jet jersey, he's going there, his parents got him a ticket.

[Vinny]

You feel bad, destroyed, but you're ready for this. You can't jump ship because you know how embarrassing it is. Everybody's going to make fun of you. Everybody's going to come after you. So they're stuck. But I think the goal is to just common sense. Since I've came to valuetainment. You said this. One of the first things, common sense. If you can't see what's happening, take your budget. I'm very emotional. I'm the angry patriot. But I could have the common sense to take the emotion out of it. Take a step back and go, why do they care so much about the illegals? Why do they care so much about LGBTQ? Why do they care about problems that no 80% of America doesn't agree with? But they go off emotion and it's switching the party. We need those people. We need the Elon's. Donald Trump used to Vote Democrat. We got Donald Trump, we got Elon Musk, Chamath. All these guys are leaving. Billions, trillions of dollars are leaving California because they're waking up. This is a. I love this stat because Tommy made a great point. It's the voters. It's the people that are actually. It's the money that care about the country. That's a great freaking stand. I hope it keeps going higher.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Well, we'll see. We'll see if it's going to continue or not. Because, you know, this is good with CNN showing this, but how will this translate in November is what's going to matter. How will it translate in November? There's something going on right now that it's problematic. This is two years in a row back to back. China's leaders are being accused of leaking secrets. Did you see this one story, Tom? Okay, so check this out. China's top general. General, yeah. Accused of giving nuclear secrets to the U.S. rob, do you have the clip on that?

[Tom]

Yes.

[Vinny]

Go for it, haircut.

[Humberto Bellard]

By the way, China's most senior general is under investigation, its Defense Ministry said on Saturday. In what is Beijing's highest profile purge of the top brass to date, Zhang Youxia is being probed over suspected serious violation of discipline and law, the ministry said. He has not been seen in public since November when he held talks with Russia's Defense Minister in Moscow. The veteran modernizer was widely seen as President Xi Jinping's closest military ally. The 75 year old was Xi's second in command as Vice Chairman of the Central Military Commission. Foreign diplomats and security analysts are watching developments closely given Zhang's closeness to Xi. His removal may also impact the commission's work in terms of command as well as the People Liberation Army's ongoing military modernization and posture. The military was one of the main targets of a broad corruption crackdown ordered by Xi in 2012. Eight top generals were expelled from the ruling Communist Party on graft charges in 2025, the ministry on Saturday said Liu Zhengli, chief of staff of the commission's Joint Chief Staff Department, was also under investigation.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay, you can pause it right there.

[Vinny]

He's gone, by the way. They haven't seen him since November. He's gone. He is not giving secrets to us.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Why is this a pattern, though? This happened two years in a row now. Tom, where are you at with this?

[Tom]

Well, I'll tell you, spying works both ways. Number one and then number two, people have said for a long time that the is that military leaders in China are not like the military Leaders in Germany, what was the thing? You know, we were just following orders when they were, when they were put on trial. Remember, I was just following orders and they're looking at it. And there are military leaders in China that have been said that are disgusted with how people are really being treated. And every now and then, you know, we've got spies over there. You know, we've got things that we do over there. I mean, you know, they're sending, you know, honey pots over here for Eric Swalwell. I'm sure the CIA knows how to send an only fans girl or two over to China. It's the same thing. I'm not making a joke.

[Vinny]

Yeah, no, you're right.

[Tom]

You know, it's, it's, it's, it's men's, it's men's weakness. And so combination of they actually are disgusted by what they see as treatment of their people, number one and number two, they're susceptible to spying into techniques as everybody else. And then they sit there and think, well, we're never really going to have a nuclear or we're not going to launch these at each other. And I'll get a little bit of money or I'll get a little bit of this and I'll just go ahead and do it. Well, what happens is now why does China announce it is the bigger one? Why didn't China just keep this under wraps?

[Vinny]

That's a good question.

[Tom]

You see, it's because what they're about to do to this guy, they want everybody else in the military to know it went down. That's what they want. Otherwise they would hide this. China never shows weakness. They lie about economic stats so that they don't show weakness. The only way they do this, with this woman's voice and everything to let everybody else in the military know what's about to go down.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Humberto, where are you at?

[Humberto Bellard]

Not everybody speaks Chinese. There's different layers. Like they can make an example out of someone and keep it inside of China. I think this can be a little bit of noise. We caught three spies in the last year. Like three times. Agriculture characters being inspired.

[Tom]

Like, so the two in Minnesota with the Minnesota.

[Humberto Bellard]

So that's how, you know, that's how it works. It's tit for tad.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Terrible year for timberwolves.

[Humberto Bellard]

But what, what, what I was gonna get at is that we, they're in big trouble. You know, we've been covering like their aging population. That was the biggest strength of China. Like they, they gave the world this, this idea of like unlimited Population growth that they were going to take over by making babies. Then the second thing you have a depth dividend.

[Tom]

They only have one.

[Humberto Bellard]

They only have one. Yeah, or less than one. Then you have, you have an economy that is collapsing. You know, like if you, if you, if you see their, their, their housing market and the depth they have taken in the last, in the last few years and how's it exploding in their face, it's, it's unbelievable.

[Tom]

Ghost cities and actually tearing down giant apartments.

[Humberto Bellard]

They call them tofu buildings. And then you have a very rigid, that Xi Jinping is his doing. He has centralized all the power into one guy, you know what I mean? So you have a very rigid structure and a very rigid, like how it's commanded. So I don't know, this is not looking good. I think they're trying to like divert attention from something else that's going on there.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Well, what this is leading to is over the weekend, Trump threatens 100% tariff on Canada if it makes a deal with China. And Carney pushes back. But let me read the first one first. If Governor Carney. Of the 51st state Canada thinks he is going to make Canada drop off port for China to send goods and products into the US he is sorely mistaken. China will eat Canada alive, completely devour it, including the destruction of their businesses, social fabric and general way of life. If Canada makes a deal with China, it will immediately be hit with 100% tariff against all Canadian goods and products coming into the U.S. thank you for your attention to this matter, President DJT Rob, can you pull up the clip of Carney responding to this? Because obviously, if you remember, it looked like him and Carney were getting along because he chose Carney over Pierre Poliev. When Pierre lacked diplomacy, everybody saw that when he would only eat the apple and not go meet with people. And here's Carney responding to the President. Are you responding to Trump's threats of 100% terrorists?

[Vinny]

Well, the first thing is that, you know, Canada respects our engagements, our commitments. We have commitments under Kuzma that not to pursue free trade agreements with non market economies without prior notification. We have no intention of doing that with China or any other non market economy. What we've done with China is to rectify some issues that developed in the last couple of years. In many respects, we're going to use the expression back to the future with respect to EVs, with respect to agriculture, with respect to fish products and other food products, but with additional protections. So for example, back in 2023 we didn't have a cap on the number of EVs. We didn't have a requirement for a large proportion of those EVs to be affordable, highly affordable EVs for Canadians. So it's entirely consistent with Kuzma, with.

[Tom]

Our obligations, which we very much.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Pause it right there, Tom, what's going on here?

[Tom]

So let me translate that for you. China got Canada to agree to take byd, which is the largest EV maker in the world, by number of units, and to send over their $30,000 EVs, which is not going to be good for Tesla. But what Mark Carney is doing there is dancing around a simple truth. He went back and renegotiated with China, which he feels is a trade deal that's good for Canada. And that's how he's spinning it. It. Meanwhile, President Trump is pointing out that the 2.3 trillion economy of Canada, which is less than half of California. That, by the way, Rob, I don't know if you can find this in a flash. I didn't tell you, I believe, Pat. 21% of their GDP is what they import from us and 17% of their GDP is what they export to us. So I think it's 35, 36% of Canada's 2.3 trillion GDP depends on trade with the United States. So there it is. Imports from the US constitute 19% of Canada's GDP. So it's like you're making a deal with China that Trump is trying to work with right now in corner, and yet one third of your GDP depends on back and forth trade with the United States. Are you high? Do you not think that Trump's going to go, wait, what's he doing, sir? He made some sort of conciliation deal with China and he's going to take the low cost EVs over into. What about General Motors EVs? What about Tesla EVs? Well, it's going to hurt them because they're bringing over the China car. And he says, what the hell is on his mind? Hang on, where's my phone? And then here comes Trump. Governor Carney does it again. That's what's going on. He cut a deal with China when Trump's trying to corner China.

[Humberto Bellard]

Umberto, let's trade Alberta for Minnesota. All right, that, that's what we, that's the only trade that we need.

[Tom]

Straight up.

[Humberto Bellard]

Straight up, straight. We grab Alberta, they keep Minnesota, and we're, we're even. I, I sent Robert Chart and I, I got this from, from, from Tom, like To show, like, can you please try to find Canada on this map? All right.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I can't actually find Canada. Where is it?

[Vinny]

Has to be really small.

[Tom]

There it is up at the top at 12 o'.

[Vinny]

Clock right there. All right. By the way, United States above USA.

[Tom]

Mexico, that has grown. Canada's 2.3 in the United States is 31.

[Humberto Bellard]

So. So what are we talking about? Right? Like. Like Trump said it like, Canada depends on the US they're nothing without us. And they're trying to play ball and get Chinese cars to their borders. Like, I don't know. Like, I think they look a lot bigger than they actually are. They shouldn't be even sitting at the table. Probably banned from Canada already. But. But it's not. It's not a good look at all.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Look at it from the position of Chai, China, right? I was about to say Chaiwan, Taiwan. If you look at the position of. And it's exactly where I was going. If you look at the position from China, China's probably sitting there saying, wait a minute, who's. Who's Canada to U.S. taiwan. Why are you building relationships with them? The U.S. is like, because we can. He said, well, I'm gonna do business with Canada. And U.S. is like, no, you can't. And China says, why can't I? And US Says, because Taiwan is a very different relationship. You're just trying to get to China, to Canada, to disrupt our relationship. And in this sense, you know, if Carney decides to play ball with China, which it looks like he's fallen for, U. S offers security protection. U. S offers so many different things. You know, Canada is safe by association. You know, it's like going to a nightclub with the toughest guy in the street thinking you're. You're tough. You're not tough. You're safe because you went to the club with the toughest guy on the street. Go to that same club in the hood without that tough guy, you walking in a very different way. Make sense. That tough guy is America. When he walks, he's like, hey, what's up? Yeah. And so what are you gonna do? He's like, what do you mean? What are you. What are you gonna say something? And then all of a sudden, America leaves. Hi, how are you? How's everything? Family's good. How's your daughter doing? You didn't care about my daughter last year. Now you do. Yeah, I really do. I always did.

[Tom]

You saw your buddy leave. He didn't go to the bathroom.

[Humberto Bellard]

He left.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yes. So I get what Trump is doing here, man. My only, my only thing is. Let me tell you what my only concern. My only thing is, does he have enough time left to negotiate this aggressively? Does he have enough time left to continue negotiating this aggressively? I don't know. It's either he's got 10 months or he's got. What? What's the other one? 34 months? Yeah, that's what he's got left. 10 months or 34 months. Who knows what happens afterwards. Can you really get everything he wants to get done in the next 10 months or 34 months? Do you think he can in the next 10 months or 34 months, I believe in him. You believe they can get everything done in the next 10 months or 34 months? Tom, what do you think?

[Tom]

No, I think we've now entered into the window of certain international parties are gonna stall because now they're saying hang tight, hang tight. All you have to do is get through the American summer because then this guy's gonna have trouble in the midterms and then he's going to have to do different things on trade. I think that the China and others may be about to play that. I think he can get 40% of it, 50% of it done, Pat. But there's a couple big things I think are going to be really tough to get done before the midterms and after the midterms. If they're too nasty, it makes it more difficult.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I agree. By the way, Rob, you ran a very good poll. If you can pull it up. They got 2,000 votes already. I think it's a good sample to look at that. Rob ran a poll saying who needs who more? Canada needs the U.S. the U.S. needs Canada. They both need each other, neither needs the other. Ready? 77% said Canada needs the U.S. 3% says the U.S. need Canada, 15% said they need each other, and 5% said neither needs each other. OK. It's pretty wild when you look at that because if you take out the last two options they both need or neither needs, and you just take the top two, it would end up being around 96 and a half to four. 3 and a half percent. 96 and a half. Canada needs us. 3 and a half percent us needs Canada. It's Carney better kind of sit down and figure out how to negotiate with this guy in the US or else, you know, this is just going to keep getting. By the way, look at what happened to it. It just went to 78. 3. This is not looking pretty for Canada.

[Humberto Bellard]

When it comes to the moves that we've seen Trump doing on defense. We're talking about the golden dome, right? That's kind of one of the golden.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Protecting your family, your country, your country.

[Humberto Bellard]

For free. For free. We're talking about Greenland. Like, Trump is not messing around the Arctic. Like, and he's going to do everything that is in his power. This, this national defense.

[Tom]

And Canada needs great leadership. That's what Canada needs. You're talking about a country that has a GDP that is bigger than Russia. And you're talking about something that by comparison is small, but we have this robust trading partner. They need better leadership. There is a reason after those truckers were stopped there that when you're talking about trading Alberta, Albertans were saying, trade us Albertans were saying, hey, you know what? We'll be ultra north Texas, let's make a swap. And let's, you know. And they weren't aware of what's going on in Minnesota, but Minnesota can go into the I've lost my mind Quebecois division and do it. But you have to remember there's a country up there that's got a lot of conservative people that are in wonderful Alberta in particular, and they have built a GDP bigger than Canada. But right now they've got terrible leadership. And the last election, you think we were in pain about our choices. They were in pain going, can you imagine the people that were moderate and conservative going, is Paul Ivera actually going to blow this? I can't believe this.

[Patrick Bet-David]

He did. He did. It's one of the worst ever in the history of mankind, at least in our lifetime with what he did. And honestly, I don't want to go and give him a hard time about it, but he's probably won the.

[Tom]

We would never do that.

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, not right now. I don't want to do that. But you know a guy, Manex man me from Canada, and he doesn't want to leave Canada. He loves Canada. But he says, pat, you have to realize in Canada, this is the fear people have in Canada. You can't say anything pro about Canada. God forbid you say anything pro about Canada, you won't even believe what happens to it. You say anything pro about Trump in Canada. Well, you know, Trump's got a good point. Trump's got this, Trump's got that. Until they get over that fear of the values and principles being comfortable talking about. Maybe Trump is right about a couple things. Until they do that, they're going to continue living on this socialistic whatever regime you want to talk about in Canada. By the way, some of the best people in the world. If you want to go have convert. They're funny, they're loud, they're cool to be around. They're tough in their own way. And by the way, just so you know, good luck walking around anywhere here without running into Canadians.

[Tom]

Millions.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I'll get manex from. Guys will say, pat, I just moved from Toronto to Fort Lauderdale. How do I make friends here? I'm trying to find some. I got a family, I got kids. I'm a businessman. I'm this. I'm done. I said manect me. I'll introduce you to the boardroom. We'll become a member. You'll make friends. And it happens all the flipping time here. All right, let's continue. Let me get to the next store here. Next story I want to get to is Scott Jennings. And I know I'm going back to one of the stories, but I have to show you this because there's two clips I want to show you. This is the fear porn that you have to be thinking about. Scott Jennings has to explain to CNN why immigration enforcement officers run smoothly in other states, but not in Minnesota. Watch this exchange here, folks. This is Scott. Does a clinic go forward on this.

[Vinny]

New reporting that we just heard from.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Our Kristen Holmes at the White House.

[Vinny]

That President Trump is frustrated with the.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Messaging around his immigration efforts and wants to change the the narrative. How do you see it?

[Vinny]

Well, I'd be frustrated, too, if I were faced with this wall of propaganda every single day and if I were faced with these recalcitrant Democrats in Minnesota who simply won't cooperate with the federal government all over this country, states and cities all over the country, you have cooperation going on between the locals and the federal government. You don't see any chaos. You see very orderly transitions of illegal aliens into federal custody. They go into deportation. It works just fine. The only difference in Minnesota is you have Walz and Fry and Flanagan and the rest of these local Democrats who don't want to cooperate. They think that Minnesota somehow should exist and I guess some state of secession where federal laws don't apply to people inside the state of Minnesota. It is causing chaos. And if I were the president, I would be frustrated about that, too, because, you know, narratives aside, he's the chief law enforcement officer of the United States.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And he has to enforce the law.

[Vinny]

In all 50 states.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Bingo.

[Tom]

Bingo.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Very simple. Go ahead, cooperate. Simplify. Let's work as a team. But watch this. Jake Tapper has a guest on that's selling fear porn at the highest level Folks, just letting you know, even Jake had to stop this guy. I don't know if he fully does or not. Rob, you know which clip I'm talking about?

[Tom]

Yep.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So there's.

[Tom]

Even Jake was stunned.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Say that again. Yeah. Jake Tapper stunned. As Minnesota business owner suggests ice agents could start putting people in ovens.

[Vinny]

This is. You're joking. This is not.

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, no, no. Is this the clip?

[Tom]

Yes, sir. Hang on.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And is this from. Is this from. What do you call it from the last 48 hours?

[Vinny]

This is the room. It's on. It's on Rumble.

[Tom]

It's on Rumble. I'm trying to get it up, but I have two ads that I have to play. But, yes, this. I believe this was from this.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Let me. Let me see if I can't. If we, if it's going to be a long time, Rob, we'll. We'll skip to a different story. If it's not in a different place, I'll go to a different story until this one freshens up and. And we'll come back to it. So next story I want to get to is this. Okay. Trump skips super bowl in California, criticizing, criticizes performers Bad Bunny and Green Day. Now, if you watch this closely with Bad Bunny and Green Day, apparently Bad Bunny is supposed to be performing in a dress, which I think he changed his mind that he's now not wearing a dress. Okay. Allegedly. We don't know that he can still come up and surprise. And wear a dress. Okay, so we'll dress to impress at super bowl but won't wear a dress. Nobody knows he could be playing games. President Trump's on Saturday. He's going to be skipping next month's super bowl, slamming the halftime performers and grappling that the California game game has gone too far. Trump, who attended last year's game between Philadelphia Eagles and the Chiefs in New Orleans, told the Post, it's just too far away. I would. I've gone. I've gotten great hands at the Super Bowl. They like me. This year's super bowl will be held at Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara, California. He added, I would go if, you know, if it was a little bit shorter. The president slammed the NFL for choosing bad money in Green Day. President had also openly critical of headline performer Bad Bunny since he was chosen for last year's performance during the halftime show. I don't know who he is, Trump told Newsmax. I don't know why they're doing it. It's crazy. And then they blame it on some promoter. They Hired to pick up entertainment. I think it's absolutely ridiculous. Rock band Green Day was also selected in the last week to play before the kickoff. Bad Bunny and Green Day frontman Billy Joe Armstrong are both liberal performers who have been vocal about their dislike of Trump. So, Tom, why do you think. Why do you think they're doing this? Why is it such a big deal? Or is it. Maybe it's not?

[Tom]

Well, let's look at the NFL. The NFL hired somebody, and I think, can you. Can you help me out, Vinnie? I thought it was. I thought it was Jay Z. That they did hire a music industry producer to bring them the halftime show, and they want to reach new and younger audiences. That's why Brute Springsteen's not doing it. Billy Joel's not doing it. You know, what's left of. Yeah, it was Jay Z. Jay Z and Roc Nation partnered with the NFL to produce a halftime show. So the NFL says, hey, bring us more different consumers. Bring us a younger audience. To me, Pat, that is a rational move by the NFL. But now the NFL is hiding behind the controversy because, you know, performers being performers, musicians being musicians, liberals being liberals, are now saying things about it. And the. Just a couple weeks ago at the. The college football championship game between University of Miami and Indiana, when Trump showed up, the place came down. They cheered for Trump. They loved him there. And so Trump's saying, yeah, I don't think I want to go here if you're going to have people that are like this and doing this, and it's a long way out there. But the real issue is the NFL wanted to get more viewers. Pat, Pat, you run businesses, and if you told marketing, hey, we need to open up a little bit to make sure that all of our products get to people that are going to buy them, and they came back and they were way on the edges and they were advertising in communist China, you would have been like, excuse me, you did what? Well, you said get more consumers. Yeah, but this is completely controversial, and this is not what we want. That's what the NFL is right now. They're on this island having to blame the promoter, and that's what they're doing in a very gentle way. Well, we turned it over to a promoter. We asked them to bring us new and younger audiences for the NFL. And, gosh, we find ourselves in the middle of this. But you know what? You know, we. We really trusted the promoter to put together a halftime show. And our past several years have been, you know, award winning, very recognized, great shows, and now we got this little Controversy. That's what they're doing going Vinnie.

[Vinny]

I think good choice on the president. If he doesn't want to go, he doesn't want to go. He went to the national football game.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Why?

[Vinny]

Where was the game played?

[Tom]

Here at the Hard Rock stadium here in Florida.

[Humberto Bellard]

He went to Navy and he went to navy.

[Vinny]

He went, he, he, he. By the way, people that come and support us because they believe in the vision, they believe in you, they believe in what the, what the, the, the mission is at valuetainment. They support us. Why would you go support the NFL for anything? This is the same NFL that had end racism in the end zones. The biggest, you know, woke freaking thing that they had. They have kneeling with Colin Kaepernick who to me was stoking and promoting all this freaking all kinds of teams.

[Tom]

Neil, defund the police.

[Vinny]

Defund the police and the racism. Then you have Green day. Who is just the most anti. They go on concerts and they go up there and they make it political and it's like, bro, you're 50 years old and you're coloring your hair green and then you have a cross dressing Latino who during a Yankees game sat purposely for God bless America. So why would the president want to go and support that? And when he says he doesn't know who bad bunny is, good for him. I mean, I've heard bad bunny songs. I don't follow him. I don't care. I think it's a good move to send a message that says, hey listen, if you guys want to be anti America and all this pushing division, I'm not going to go and support it.

[Tom]

Decision, support.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I got a crazy question for you guys and here's what the question is. You ready? Since 1967, which presidents? Don't look it up, Rob. You can on your own. Since 1967. No, don't do it while they're. Because I'll look at it. Since 1967, which u. S. Presidents are the only ones that were a sitting president that went to the super bowl game?

[Vinny]

That did.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That went. Which presidents are the only ones that were sitting president since 67? We're talking 50, 60, 59 years. Which are the only US presidents to have ever gone to a Super bowl that were sitting president.

[Humberto Bellard]

More than one.

[Vinny]

Was it Trump?

[Tom]

I think it's a very small number. They used to make a phone call.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I know, to the winning coach. Who do you think it is?

[Vinny]

Trump for sure.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Who are the only ones? Okay, who else?

[Humberto Bellard]

George Bush.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Who else?

[Vinny]

I don't think Bill Slick Willie went Who else?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Who else? Tom, you're a sports guy.

[Tom]

I'm going to go with W. And first term Trump.

[Patrick Bet-David]

The only president that has ever gone to the super bowl that was a sitting president since 1967 is Donald J. Trump. Weird. Only. Only no other president have ever. Rob, what is the other one here? Did you fact check this to see whoever. Who else it is? Sitting. Sitting president. Were they sitting? Bush was one of them.

[Tom]

Says in 2006 he attended.

[Humberto Bellard]

So, yeah, he was in office at that time.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So you got only two of them. So you got two of them. So Bush and Trump are the only ones that ever attended.

[Tom]

And where did Donald Trump attend?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Rob, can you ask that question from ChatGPT as well? See what ChatGPT tells you. Ask the same question from Grok and ChatGPT. Isn't it wild that him not going the market is a little bit surprised because he goes to everything.

[Humberto Bellard]

It's not surprising. It's a great statement. Like, this is my first season that I watch a full season of football. Tremendous. Best thing to do on Sunday. I love it. And having this guy.

[Patrick Bet-David]

GPT says not to Bush.

[Tom]

Yep.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And so does Grok. Grok also says not a sitting president.

[Vinny]

But Google says Trump is the only sitting.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Sitting. He's the only sitting president.

[Tom]

Ronald Reagan did the coin toss, but.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It was a satellite coin toss. Yeah, it was on zoom back in the 80s.

[Tom]

All right.

[Patrick Bet-David]

There was no zoom, but yeah.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay.

[Vinny]

So was Trump.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Go ahead, Humberti. We're gonna say something.

[Humberto Bellard]

I was gonna say, first of all, this. This. This is a great statement. I think. Bad Bunny. I give Grinde a little bit of a pass because at least they're. Oh, they're Canadian or they're American.

[Vinny]

Are they Canadian? Oh, don't. Don't make it worse for me. Bashing the country to the point is Bunny, when he got started from California Rodeo.

[Humberto Bellard]

I give them a little bit. Bit of a pass for being critical. But Bunny doesn't speak the language. He's just trying to be political. And this relates to the first story that we covered. All right.

[Vinny]

Rob's putting his pants on.

[Humberto Bellard]

This relates to the first. First story that we covered with Minnesota. If you think that the left is playing chess, you're wrong. All right, they're playing go. Have you ever. Have you guys ever played Go? No, it's about goat or Go Go, the Chinese game. Chinese.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It's a religious game, but go ahead. You're saying.

[Humberto Bellard]

Yeah, the Chinese game is about using spaces on the board.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Humberto Bellard]

All right. Spaces could be A protest in Minnesota. Or it could be having Bad Bunny dress as a woman on the halftime show. In my personal opinion, we need Creed. That's all we need. Creed and Metallica. Everyone love that show.

[Vinny]

You know, I do think, I think he's gonna rip something off and have a dress on Bad Bunny. But I'm telling you right now, if. If Green Day says a political or wears a shirt that's like anti Trump or whatever, I'm never gonna watch the NFL again. I'll pop. Because I didn't watch any football. I haven't watched. I barely watch any of it. If they do something stupid like that, I'm not watching.

[Tom]

Do you watch the jets still?

[Vinny]

I never want. I don't want. I'm a Giants because I won my Super Bowl.

[Tom]

That's actually not quite NFL anymore.

[Vinny]

So you do have a point.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Well, I'm a Giant, so let me tell you yesterday. But I don't want to get sidetracked. All of a sudden I got caught watching the. The story of this Benson. What's his name? Benson something. The singer. What's his last name? Benson Boone. What a freaking voice. This kid who's an 18 year old kid learns to sing. He goes to American Idol, performs the song, drops out, comes out, puts the song out, that goes viral. What's the big song that he has, Rob? Beautiful something. What is it called?

[Tom]

Things.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Beautiful Things. Oh my God, this guy. Do you know this guy or no?

[Vinny]

I've heard, I've heard of him, but.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I'm an incredible performer. He does the backflips. Anyways, yesterday we're winding. You know me, Senna Tico Dylan are sitting watching this guy perform. His song is actually. The lyrics are a powerful, powerful song. The way he. I think you would actually like the song. I'll text it to you afterwards.

[Tom]

Okay?

[Patrick Bet-David]

All right, let's not get distracted. Let's stay focused. Everybody stay focused on what's going on. Next story I want to get to is Iran. Iran's supreme leader retreats underground. Warned of likelihood of US air airstrikes. Rob, if you want to go to this page nine, folks, if you're watching this, you want our stories, just go to the Manect circle to get all the stories you can follow with us. You'll get all the notes every single week. If you want to follow the notes that we're looking at. So supreme, okay. Has gone underground, reportedly hiding out in a bunker out of fear of being wiped out by the US airstrikes. As the USS Abraham Lincoln steams towards Persian Gulf the 86 year old supreme leader has moved to a fortified shelter in Tehran connected to a series of elaborate underground tunnels after senior military officials warned of the increasing likelihood of an imminent US attack. Iran International reported Khamenei has left his youngest son Masood Khamenei, 53, in charge of running the day to day management of the Islamic Republic. Masood Khamenei emergency duties include being the primary communication channel with the regime's executive branch. Iran has deemed the likelihood of the U.S. airstrikes to be high after President Trump announced that warships were headed that way. So that's one story. All of a sudden major airlines cancel flights to the Middle east with possible of US airstrikes then Iran. The senior Iran official says Iran will treat any attack as an all out war is what he announces. Rob, do you have that clip as well? Senior Iranian officials stated that Iran will treat any attack as an all out war against us on Friday ahead of the Iranian ahead of the arrival the U S military aircraft strike group and other assets in the Middle east region which is expected to come be in the coming days. This military buildup, we hope it is not intended for real confrontation but our military is ready for the worst case scenario. This is why everything is on high alert and Iran said the senior Iranian officials speaking on speaking on condition of anonymity. This time we will retreat. We will treat any attack, limited, unlimited, surgical, kinetic, whatever they call it as an all out war against us and we will respond in the hardest way possible to settle this. US President Trump stated that his administration was watching Iran very closely. Humberto, what do you think is going to happen here?

[Humberto Bellard]

I think there's not a defining moment right now and I think it's very clear because you know I think it's very, it's good for the regime that they have an excuse to go on hiding. My guess and I'm, I'm, I'm thinking this from, from the perspective everyone's talking about the regime and they're talking about the U S influence but this revolution is about the economy, right? We saw over the last year the reports of 42% inflation, low energy production, running out of water and those reasons by themselves Pat, like just economical reasons, they're enough to topple a government. You know what I mean? We've seen that President Trump, he's been very careful with his actions, very tactical with his actions in Iran. I'm not calling him bluff. I think he will act when time is ready. But them pushing the narrative that tactics imminent it gives them safe passage to finally get out. Because if Trump doesn't get them, eventually the people of Iran will get them. And I'm not advocating for any regime change or anything of that nature. True. But if, if you get your savings wiped out with a 48 inflation, you get half of whatever you had, you get it cut in half, you're gonna revolt. That's. That's. That's basically my opinion on it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. So you know, this, this Saturday, we had the podcast with the two Iranians, Amir and Dr. Kangarlu, and the doctor who's a nuclear physicist, he said something very interesting. He said, this is the first time in the history of the world. Rob, can you look this up?

[Tom]

Up?

[Patrick Bet-David]

I don't think we did this. If you want to search. When is the last time in history that a religious revolution and an economical revolution was taking place at the same time in the same country? It happened two separate times. He was saying that Iran is the first country ever in the history to have two different types of revolutions taking place at the same time. One is economic, one is religious, meaning one economy. It's horrible. They're not making money. They can't take care of their family. Two, they are sick and tired of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard, of what it's doing to it. Okay. And so, but if you watch this, the most recent one that was close to Both, they're saying 79 Khamenei, but the other way around, religious and Islamic. And then the one that's happening right now, this isn't pretty, what's going on in Iran today. It's not. And at any point, anything can happen. It's so unpredictable for us that when you look at this, Tom, you know, from the standpoint, I'm curious to know what you'll say about this. If you had to have a, you know, if you yourself, you have your Tom Couchy, without looking at Couchy, Tom's Cauchy. What's the split on whether US Will attack, cause some mayhem in Iran versus two? Nothing happens during Trump's term.

[Tom]

So I think we've hit 50, 50. That something could happen, that there will be some sort of strike against military radar, you know, or what they call distant defense proxies. I think we're going there. It really spooked me over the weekend because the Department of Defense around the world can use simple air traffic control messages. And so even the airlines don't know what's up, but they. They cancel their flights because they're told there are no longer landing clearances where you're going, like, you're going from Greece to Tel Aviv, you're going from Rome to Cairo or whatever. Those are those routes. And all of a sudden you're saying, hey, we have an ATC hold because federal governments have the ability to get in there and put those. So you saw, remember over the weekend, all of a sudden we saw all these flights are canceled. Well, the airlines are like, why are they canceling them? They're canceling them because they are not permitted to leave or fly. And the airlines may not know the reason. There could be heavy weather and ice in Boston. And they get atc. It says, hey, we can't release you to Boston. And they look it up. Oh, man, they're getting ice. It must be the ice up there. I can't fly. It's happened to us. So I felt like, wow, somebody has pushed the get out of the way button. And that made me nervous because it's like, okay, are we going to fly over and hit some installations? So I thought we were like 75% likely that something was going to happen over the weekend, Pat. Not in the city center, not to the palace, but hit a bunch of military installations and fly home and then call back and say, do I have your attention? You know, that's kind of what I thought. So my Couchy is, I'm 50, 50, and we execute a strike before the end of the year. And I'm more than 50, 50. That like September to Christmas, there's an actual leadership change, because I don't think they can keep a lid on this with the people, what they're going through. I believe the Iranian people know that there is just one shot here, and this is the first shot in 47 years. And it may be that they have to pull back a little bit to go forward, but this is their only. This is her only shot.

[Vinny]

I think it's more. I think it's way more than 50%. I think with all. All the signs are showing that they need. They need the help, and Trump wants to help. I think he's biding his time. Every time we think he's going to do something, he waits, and then a week later, we're like, oh, my God, now this is the time. Because at the end of the day, Humberto, I think my personal opinion is once everything was ready to go, once they met with, with Reza Pahlavi and everything, and, and he really remember when he. What. What did Trump say? Yeah, he's not the. He's not the guy for. For the job or something.

[Tom]

He's a nice guy, no.

[Vinny]

Yeah, he's a nice guy. Pat called him a sweet guy, which he is. But when you don't listen to me, if you're gonna go and help Umberto and you're gonna go really, really try to help these people, you know, I mean, because they're freaking dying by the thousands. If they don't have somebody that's going to lead them, what's going to happen? What do you do?

[Humberto Bellard]

That. That. That's the thing. Like the Trump administration, the. The guys they have there, they're incredibly smart. Like, for example, when they took out Maduro and they kept half of the regime in Venezuela.

[Vinny]

Yes.

[Humberto Bellard]

It was for a reason. You know, it was. So they know how health care works, how to get pensions out, how the oil industry works. You know what I mean? He's very measured, and. And there's some tremendous guys in there, and they're trying to find a solution. This is not a straight solution. You're gonna have to keep some of the regime in there, of course.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You know what I mean?

[Humberto Bellard]

Yeah. So you can't just, like, bomb it flat.

[Vinny]

I don't think they're going to bomb.

[Humberto Bellard]

It flat, and I don't think they can take any more pressure. Like, it breaks my heart to hear all this beautiful Iranian people protesting that they're getting killed. So, like, I think we need to pull down the pressure. They need to find a solution and strike whatever it is, if it's military, if it's sanctions. But I think they're going to put a plan in place.

[Vinny]

Well, here's my question, though.

[Tom]

Haven't we kind of done. I agree with you to a point, Humberto, but haven't we done sanctions? I mean, unpack what you're saying. We've been sanctioning them quite a bit. Right now, Was it Russia and Iran can't get oil into Europe? Basically, less than 2% of the oil coming into Europe is Russia or Iran. Contraband being smuggled in. So they. We've had these big sanctions. What now?

[Humberto Bellard]

They're slowly working, Tom. Like, for this, for the economy to go in the gutter, like, sanctions were a big part of it. Like, it's not as fast as a striking with missiles, but they do work in the long run. You know what I mean?

[Vinny]

Well, how long are these? How. How many more? Let's say it's at 20. I'm gonna go lowish. 20, 000 civilians are dead in the street because they on their own said enough is enough. How long are we gonna Leave. Because this happened the last time. They're up. They're up. They're fighting. They're. And the voice. And then it just dies out. And then everybody forgets about Iran and then goes on to something else. Now they're really going for it.

[Tom]

It.

[Vinny]

They're really like, hey, we're out here. We need some support. And nothing. You don't have a freaking. A leader. You don't have anybody that's going to stand up. One per guys, one person that's going to say, I'm going to do it. Yes. Everybody's here in Washington. I'm going to go there. I'm going to sacrifice because they need somebody, bro.

[Tom]

Mr. President. Mr. President. Mr. President. Trump. Trump. Trump. Three weeks ago, you said you had our back.

[Vinny]

Exactly. Yeah, exactly.

[Patrick Bet-David]

We.

[Vinny]

We went for it.

[Humberto Bellard]

It.

[Vinny]

Not. Where. Where are you guys at? That's like, that's like he was talking about earlier. You go in there, you start the fight like, yeah, we're good. And you turn around and your backup isn't there. It's like, brother. And the other. They're not backing down. Those people are still getting killed. And what those 12 to 15,000 that are captured, what do you think the IRGC is doing to them in the, in the jails, if they're still alive? You think they're. They're all dead. They're all dead. God rest their souls. They need the help. I think Trump is strategic. It's gonna, it's gonna happen. But me personally, I know what everybody's gonna say, oh, we're war. They need help. It has to be sooner than some kind of help.

[Humberto Bellard]

We don't know what kind of help. You know what it is?

[Vinny]

It needs to be something, bro. How long, how many more people are gonna die?

[Humberto Bellard]

There needs to be something.

[Vinny]

What do you think?

[Patrick Bet-David]

You know, I'm going back to thinking about what the difference is between Khomeini coming back in and Reza Pahlavi is. If I'm US, what am I thinking about? What is the DNA of Venezuela versus Iran? So imagine you're the president, okay? You didn't study Iran history, you didn't study Venezuelan history, You studied the streets of New York. New York. Negotiation, tough games, manipulation, all that stuff. Roy Cohen, the University of Roy Cohen. Right. Never give up, never surrender, never this, never that. Always blame, always take every victory, whatever happens. Yes. Okay, so here's a question. I'm getting briefing now. I'm sitting there with my seven guys that are in front of me. Me and gals, whoever the people Are. And I ask, what's the difference between the people in Venezuela and the people in Iran? So if we topple the regime in Venezuela versus Iran, what is the difference? Is the military in Venezuela 100%? Maduro is a military in Iran 100%. IRGC, what is the difference? Whose support does Edmundo Gonzalez have? Have? Whose support does Maria Karina Machado have? What's the point? The point is, if we know a portion of the Venezuelan military is going to side with a new leader, we have something to work on, right? We have something that we can help. If we look at Iran. When Khomeini first came in, there was some military guys under the shah that flipped and went towards him on the Air Force. There were some that supported him. If Reza Pahlavi has some of the guys on the military that are, you know, flipping and wanting to support, that needs to be public. Because me as the president, let's just say all of a sudden, 30,000 military soldiers came out in the streets saying, I was a former this. I am not. Pro Reza Pahlavi. You think Trump would have an easier decision to make? Yes, that's the question. If you don't have the military, what happens? You go in, what's going to happen? Day one, they're going to listen to you for what? No, in a democracy, you're going to go in and a regime that's been telling people what to do, you better listen to me, or else, you know, you're going to get killed. Is Reza Pahlavi going to go out there? You know how many people Khomeini killed right afterwards when he went in? Thousands. And I'm talking military personnel. He killed. If you're not on my side, take him out, Take him out. He's ready. Take him out. Take him out. Take him out, take him out. Then all the other military service members, like, whoa, oh, we better get in line or else they're gonna kill us. Does he have that? How do you do it? And these are more the extremists. So how do you flip an extremist regime versus the old one? Umberto.

[Humberto Bellard]

That's the Orels. That's the difference.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And I think there is no or else.

[Humberto Bellard]

There is nowhere else. And the other thing is. And when we had Curtis Jarvis come in, he said something that really struck a nerve with me. He was like, does a regime believe on itself. Itself? All right, if you look at the Venezuela regime, they haven't. They haven't done anything revolutionary in the past 25 years. They're just Keeping the status quo, trying to deal with the economy. Like, they're not expanding the. The communist revolution in South America as they claimed. Now, if you see the Iranian regime, they're about that life path. You know, they're sending troops to Venezuela. They're, you know, sending money to all these terrorist organizations. Like there's some true believers inside of the rrgc, irgc. There wasn't that many true believers on believers plan in Venezuela. And once the regime stops believing themselves, I think you have a real chance of fighting, because even if you beat them militarily, you get to get an insurrection movement. They're going to go in hiding, they're going to go somewhere else, and then you're going to get a terrorist element inside of. Of Iran, of Iran, which is much better than them ruling the country. But it's a reality we have to live with.

[Tom]

You know, Tom, we've seen this, A case study. And the case study was the Philippines. Marcos. Fernando Ferdinand Marcos and his crazy wife, literally insane, categorically insane wife, Imelda, you know, finally are getting on the edge of being forced out by the people. And the tensions are high and the revolution is forming. And Benito Aquino said, I need to go home and I need to be the man for the Philippine people. American Chuck Colson, who worked with Nixon, begged him not to do it. He said, I don't think it's wise. They're not fully ready to upset you, and you need the military. When the plane landed, Marcos's henchmen, dressed as airline employees, came to the door of the plane and blew his head off as he was stepping off the plane into the Philippines. It would trigger the revolution and his wife, Corazon Aquino, and the Laban movement was formed. But this is exactly what regime change you're talking about. You have to have the military under you. You have to know who is breaking ranks, as they will to have you there. So we've seen it. We saw it in the Philippines. Ultimately, the death of Benino triggered the whole revolution. And the Marcos has fled to Hawaii with the help of the American CIA. True story. And suddenly the Philippines were led under Laban. But this is exactly what we see here. Before somebody can step forward, you're right, Pat. You got to know which. What support do you have and what do you not have before you walk into that?

[Patrick Bet-David]

If you're part of Reza Pahlavi's camp, the first thing you have to do is find a way to get to the military folks and see if you can flip them one by one by one. One, if you get more, there's volume. And they're saying they have to keep it private. They can't make it public. There's already plenty of people. There may be. There may be quite a few people that have signed up, but they need to show that to the guy who you need. If you don't need the White House, if you don't need the US Go do it on your own. But you need America to do it. You need somebody else to do it. If you didn't need anybody else, you would have already done it. You would. All you would have already done in the last 48 years. So he's. His team is probably going to want to see, see what type of pull in control and influence do you have in Iran and then what the plan is afterwards. It's not going to be as pretty as everybody thinks it is. Anyways, let's go to the last story and then we can wrap up. So this weekend, this video kept circulating. I want to finish on a lighter note. This video kept circulating that this guy climbed this, the biggest building in Taiwan, Taipei. This is a building the size of the World Trade center today in New York.

[Humberto Bellard]

Work.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Just watch this clip, folks, and tell me if you would do this, by the way. Nothing. There's nothing that he's hanging on to. He falls, he's dead. Just everybody knows. And I'm going to reveal to you how much the rumor is that Netflix paid to live stream this. Netflix paid him to live stream this. And you tell me if you would have taken the amount that allegedly was offered to him from Netflix to live stream this so the audience can see it. Go ahead and play this clip right. Do you see him yet? You will in a second. Focus.

[Tom]

Oh, down at the bottom with the red shirt.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That's him. Oh, that's him climbing.

[Tom]

Oh, my God. Like an ant.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Look at that. He's climbing up and employees are looking at him.

[Tom]

You see people coming to the windows.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Dude, they're looking at him. They're watching him. And another guy's climbing there. You see the guy on the right?

[Vinny]

Yeah, that guy has it easy.

[Patrick Bet-David]

He has it easy. Camera to fall. Vinny. He's got.

[Vinny]

The camera guy is just chilling on the right hand, by the way.

[Patrick Bet-David]

There is nothing, nothing that's holding him. And can you imagine, like you go to a window and they're rooting for you. You got it? Be quiet.

[Vinny]

Yeah, leave me alone.

[Tom]

You got this?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. So then he makes it to the other level. Now watch. Boom. He keeps climbing, keeps climbing. Oh, my God keeps climbing. And here he's playing games here. Did you guys see what he was playing?

[Vinny]

He's hanging backwards with his feet.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Look at this.

[Humberto Bellard]

This.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Rob, can you show another clip, close up of what he was doing? Because there's people from the window that are recording Cam. Okay. People from the window that are recording him. So do you know, allegedly, how much you got paid for this?

[Vinny]

It better be 5 million or more.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. Rob, is this idea? This all the way at the top. Watch this. Oh, put the audio as well. See the wind? Oh, and he puts his hands up. Watch this.

[Vinny]

Oh, my God.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That bothers me just looking at this from this angle.

[Vinny]

An hour and 31 minutes.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Look at this.

[Humberto Bellard]

Alex Honda.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You slip a little bit. Look at that. He's putting his hands up. Penny, would you do this?

[Vinny]

I got anxiety just thinking about what.

[Patrick Bet-David]

He's okay.

[Tom]

Oh, my gosh.

[Vinny]

He's an American bro. Alex Honnell, let's go.

[Humberto Bellard]

This is great television, Pat. I watched it live because he had to post.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You watch it live?

[Humberto Bellard]

Yeah, I did watch it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay, Tell me.

[Humberto Bellard]

I was. I wasn't gonna miss the biggest.

[Patrick Bet-David]

How sick was it?

[Humberto Bellard]

It was the sickest thing because, like, the top part of. First of all, he looked like a spider. Like, all these videos are sped up. He did the whole building in an hour and a half. All right.

[Vinny]

I don't believe.

[Humberto Bellard]

Like, Vinny Vinnie.

[Patrick Bet-David]

He started shaking his hand.

[Humberto Bellard]

Huh? He started, and he was halfway across the building in less than half an hour and never seen anyone climb like this.

[Vinny]

What the hell? I wanna. I wonder what his strangers.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Look at. Look at that right there. Rennie. Oh, my God.

[Vinny]

No ropes. Oh.

[Tom]

So.

[Humberto Bellard]

So they had the. They had the building on one side to see where he was going. They had the timer, and then he did a bunch of things that everyone was sweating, like, he was hanging from his legs.

[Vinny]

I saw a minute.

[Humberto Bellard]

It was. It was unbelievable. Great television, Great for Netflix. All right, this is something new. It could have gone very wrong, but this is something new. It's positive. It's sports, it's travel.

[Vinny]

My question is this. If he fell or were they going to record that it was live.

[Humberto Bellard]

Vinnie.

[Vinny]

Well, I'm saying, were they gonna follow him all the way down? Because, like, listen, if I'm paying Netflix subscription.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay. By the way, let me tell you what's the most interesting thing. What he says. He's being asked in this interview by Graham Bensinger, which he does a good job interviewing. Rob, if you can play this clip I just sent you. He's being Asked what is the big deal about having the rope versus not having the rope. Look at the way he answers the question, okay? The psychological parts of it, it's incredible. Go ahead, Rob.

[Vinny]

Pretty much the same physically you've said.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

But mentally, explain why free soloing so much more challenging. Well, it seems kind of obvious, right? Because if you fall off, you're gonna die. So it's like, obviously there's a lot.

[Patrick Bet-David]

More like fear involved and like there's a lot more. There's more second guessing or there's just.

[Tom]

More going on in your head.

[Vinny]

Why is it important to avoid getting your adrenaline going?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Well, I mean, it's important to avoid.

[Tom]

Any kind of major fear response type.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Thing just because, I mean, you have like physiological changes.

[Vinny]

You know, your vision narrows, your, your breathing accelerates.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Like you get you over grip. Like, I mean, it happens a lot.

[Tom]

Of time when you're climbing with a rope.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You'll be like super, super scared and.

[Vinny]

You like can't see anything and you're holding on super tight and you're like, oh my God.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And then you get a piece of gear in and you like clip your.

[Tom]

Rope and all of a sudden you're safe.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And then you're like, oh.

[Tom]

And you relax and then you're like.

[Vinny]

Oh, there's this other huge hold right.

[Tom]

Here that I should have grabbed but didn't see.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And then you're like, oh. And there's a foothold and suddenly you're.

[Tom]

Like way more relaxed.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So, I mean, you want to stay.

[Tom]

In that relaxation black state the whole.

[Vinny]

Time, you know, climbing with or without a rope.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Crazy, right? Rob, can you pull up what number they said they paid him? Allegedly. Allegedly Netflix paid him a half a million dollars for this.

[Tom]

That's it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Allegedly he got paid half a million dollars. Now let me tell you what I would do, okay? Allegedly, I saw $500,000. You can look it up in a couple different places for an hour and a half to see what other numbers. But I have a suggestion for him. If he's watching him. If I was his agent, I would call the Spider man brand, okay? Put him in the movie. I think that'd be sick to be in a movie. Give him a part and make couple million dollars from that. And he deserves, I believe he deserves to be in the next Spider Man.

[Vinny]

He absolutely is the Spider.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I think it would be such a brilliant move by the franchise. No, what do you think?

[Humberto Bellard]

It's a cameo.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Like, yeah, give me a couple million dollars. And you know, it's, it's a Way of saying, hey, Netflix, all you paid him is a half a million dollars. Come on, man. You know, and this guy goes out.

[Tom]

There and he's like a villain called Climber and he's only in black.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And he can't be saying here how much they paid him or.

[Tom]

No, no, he says it was an embarrassing amount.

[Humberto Bellard]

I'm not going to say it's an embarrassing amount, hond told the New York Times.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Meaning not that much. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Vinny]

It might be less than 500,000, dude.

[Patrick Bet-David]

$500,000 to do this?

[Vinny]

No.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Imagine how much publicity would you not pay? Half a million dollars? Your Netflix. What is it by the way, just dollar wise, how much eyeballs did Netflix get just for this, for paying a half a million? How much dollars did they get? Ad dollars.

[Humberto Bellard]

The, the Roy on this is high pressure.

[Vinny]

That's what I'm saying.

[Tom]

How much?

[Vinny]

How much you think?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Any podcast he ever goes to, if people want to see the whole thing, it's going back to Neville. He's been on Rogan. He was on Rogan, I think six, seven years ago. Oh, wow. So this is a guy that's made the rounds of the big podcast and.

[Tom]

But timing, the timing is perfect. Hockey has barely got going, you know.

[Patrick Bet-David]

There you go, 500,000 hours.

[Tom]

NBA is just kind of cruising. Number of football games on the weekends is down, we're into playoffs. There's an incredible window for Netflix not to be in anybody else's way.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, well, listen, respect to him, we're glad you made it. And one slip, man, once if you looked at it, he kept putting powder on his hand because he had to stay dry. Oh, cuz, you know, your hand sweating, you slip, you're gone.

[Vinny]

You know, they delayed it one day because of the weather. He was going to go the day before. They were like.

[Humberto Bellard]

And an earthquake.

[Vinny]

Oh great. Earthquake.

[Humberto Bellard]

And the way it was earthquakes the whole week.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But just think about, you're halfway up, you're hanging out your brain, you're like, what if an earthquake hits? What if an earthquake hits? What if an earthquake hits? What if. And you can't be there to stay so bulletproof, focused on the job to do this.

[Vinny]

But here's the thing though. If he fell because they had a mic on him, right? They're recording it.

[Humberto Bellard]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

He's like, Netflix is cheap. And then he's just gone boom. They had to record. They would have to record it. Like, you know, that would be wild. They'd have. The cameraman has to stay on him.

[Humberto Bellard]

Oh, you know.

[Tom]

You know what the last sound would be?

[Vinny]

Oh, the Netflix sound.

[Patrick Bet-David]

They have to. They have to. To have had a hold harmless if he were to fall and die. Netflix. Can you. Rob, can you pull up? Did Netflix.

[Tom]

Hold on.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Have a hold harmless that if he were to die, they were protected or did they buy an insurance policy on him?

[Humberto Bellard]

I was looking at the wife's face because she was down there. I think they did. She was looking very chill.

[Vinny]

Oh, she was happy.

[Humberto Bellard]

No, she wasn't happy, but she was. She was sitting in the van. She was very calm. So they probably had a policy in there.

[Vinny]

Baby, do that trick.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What kind of a wife marries a guy like this? I actually want to know what his wife does for a living. Because a wife has to have a low temperament. Because can you imagine you marry a wife. That's drama. Oh, my God, babe. What if you die? What if you do this? Why are you doing this? Don't do it. You shouldn't do it. His wife has to be just as crazy.

[Tom]

Exactly.

[Patrick Bet-David]

To be able to handle something like this.

[Tom]

She's down at the bottom of the.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Banana life and a transition. Transition coach who focus on helping people create intentional lifestyles.

[Humberto Bellard]

Else.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I don't know what that means, but, you know, whatever it means, as long.

[Vinny]

As I'm making kids go to. From male to female, great.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You listen, you shake this guy's hand. Oh, they're.

[Vinny]

Well, because they have these like. Have you ever shaken a rock climber's fingers? They're almost extended pats.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It's very weird.

[Vinny]

It's almost like a web hands, because they have to be able to hang. So this. This stretches out. I've shaken a rock climber, professional rock climbers hands, and it was like wrapped around and they're strong as hell. Look, you saw his body. He's not jacked. He's just. Just ripped. Yeah, he's ripped and shredded.

[Patrick Bet-David]

There you go. Okay, gang, if you liked what Humberto did today, give him some love. Put his manect up, Rob. He's on Manect as well. If we have. Do we have his handle up, Rob, or.

[Tom]

No, we do not, but I'll put it in the chat.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Put it in the chat, folks.

[Tom]

Foreign policy or national affairs? Politics.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay.

[Vinny]

Stormed.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And if you want to tell me about home Berto did, you can connect me as well and tell me how bad he did. I'll. I'll definitely respond back. Or how good he did.

[Humberto Bellard]

Did.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay. How good he was.

[Tom]

Picture was young Berto, by the way.

[Humberto Bellard]

Young, Young Berto. Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, no, go back to that picture.

[Vinny]

He was Bert.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Tell the truth. That picture. Go back. That's from last week.

[Vinny]

I mean, that's shave.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That's a week ago. Okay, gang. Humberto, you did good. Good for you. Thank you for having a p. You know what I like to do is on situations like this because it's very important when you're putting someone on the pod, especially he's internal with the team. He's been with us for a few years now. We've been preparing for him to be on today for two months. And I told them be ready. Two months. How much preparation time did I give you?

[Humberto Bellard]

I actually need to give a shout out to my team because they were ready to go.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. So super prepared to be on here, guys. We will do the business podcast on Wednesday between now and then. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye bye, bye, bye.

[Humberto Bellard]

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[Vinny]

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[Humberto Bellard]

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