Insurrection Act, Trump's Nobel Peace Prize, Clintons Subpoena + Sinema Scandal w/ Ann Coulter | PBD Podcast | Ep. 719

Summary

PBD Podcast Episode 719: Insurrection Act, Trump's Nobel Peace Prize, Clintons Subpoena + Sinema Scandal w/ Ann Coulter

Date: January 16, 2026
Guests: Ann Coulter, Home Team (Tom, Adam, Vinnie), Host: Patrick Bet-David (Pat)

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Main Theme / Purpose

This episode features a lively, wide-ranging conversation focused primarily on:

• Trump’s invocation of the Insurrection Act in Minnesota
• US immigration/deportation controversy
• The Iran crisis and opposition leadership
• Trump’s involvement in Venezuela and the Nobel Peace Prize
• The Clintons’ refusal to testify in the Epstein inquiry
• The Kyrsten Sinema “homewrecker” lawsuit and campaign funds scandal
• Social/cultural controversies: obesity discourse, transgender debate, abortion stats
  With Ann Coulter as a featured guest, discussion is candid, politically charged, and mixes policy analysis with media critique and personal anecdotes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump’s Insurrection Act Comments in Minnesota (07:34–16:02)

• Trump threatens to invoke the Insurrection Act if Minnesota politicians don’t stop unrest and protect ICE officers.
• Ann Coulter: Supports the move, draws parallels to Eisenhower (Little Rock) & JFK (Alabama) sending troops against state wishes to uphold federal law. “Minnesota is violating federal law. Immigration law is federal. The Supreme Court has held this 1 million times.” (08:28)
• Tom: Recalls Rodney King riots as precedent for National Guard. Says invocation is “urgent, obligatory, not just appropriate.”
• Vinnie: Highlights Minnesota’s massive fraud scandal ($600B lost annually to fraud per government estimates); suggests unrest is a political distraction from this scandal.
• [Notable Quote]
  “This is all a show to distract everybody from what the real problem is. And that’s a problem. They’ve imported all these people. They’re not working... they're scamming us and nobody's going to care about it.” – Vinnie (15:00)

2. ICE, Immigration Law, and Media Framing (17:18–25:44)

• Hosts mock politicians and pundits comparing ICE action to the Gestapo.
• Ann Coulter: Criticizes Joe Rogan for perpetuating "papers, please"/Gestapo comparison, calls it “utterly... not interesting,” and says ICE is effective (less than 1% of citizens wrongly detained, vs. 10% fraud in social programs).
• Vinnie: Reads stats —100 American citizens improperly detained by ICE in the past year, 622,000 deportations, “ICE’s improper detention rate is effectively zero.”
• Adam: Warns left/right against Holocaust analogies, shares story of a Holocaust survivor:
  “There’s a big difference between protesting and... genocide…” (19:16)
• Pat: Predicts any terror incident connected to illegal immigration will create political whiplash.

3. Caroline Levitt v. Reporter—Media Accountability (30:31–32:32)

• Plays viral clip of Caroline Levitt (Republican activist) lambasting a reporter for bias on immigration.
  • Ann Coulter: Praises Levitt’s communication style; discussion that right-wing women like Levitt and Coulter break stereotypes about female leadership.

4. Kyrsten Sinema’s “Homewrecker” Lawsuit (35:56–44:12)

• Former Sen. Kyrsten Sinema accused of breaking up bodyguard’s marriage, using campaign funds for personal affairs and psychedelic drugs (Molly/MDMA).
• Roundtable reactions:
  • Ann Coulter: Jokes “guess she wasn’t a lesbian that long,” supports “homewrecker law.”
  • Homewrecker law (Alienation of Affection) debated—majority see it as outdated, some argue it adds accountability.
  • Laughter about MDMA use and Washington scandals.
  • Vinnie: Compares real D.C. politics to “House of Cards,” calls Sinema story unremarkable given D.C. standards.

5. Iran Crisis, Reza Pahlavi’s Leadership, and US Policy (45:34–84:20)

Segments & Timestamps:

• Bret Baier interview with Iranian Foreign Minister – 46:30
• Netanyahu & Trump’s Iran discussions – 48:51
• Protest Crackdown in Iran, Criticism of US/Israel Involvement – 53:14, 56:03
• Reza Pahlavi Opposition Critique – 58:39+
• Emotional Call from Iranian Protester’s Mother (62:14)
• Debate: Should US Intervene? Who Should Lead Iran?
  • Ann Coulter: “I just don’t care about the rest of the world right now...” (53:17).
  • Pat: “Who should care more about Iran than Israel?”
  • Adam: Argues that supporting Iranian uprising weakens China (oil supply) and is thus “America First.”
  • Vinnie & Pat: Question Reza Pahlavi’s leadership as exiled/“Zoom call” leader, say US support should depend on demonstrable military backing in Iran.
  • Ann Coulter: Skeptical of democracy working in Iran, defends US-installed “puppets” in past for regional stability (63:27).
  • General consensus across panel: Without strong, credible, on-the-ground leadership, regime change in Iran will not succeed.

[Memorable Emotional Moment]
An audio recording of a US-based Iranian woman speaking with her mother in Iran, discussing massacre and oppression:
“They killed 12,000 people. They massacred all of—yeah, we ran away. The phones are controlled. It’s a very bad situation...” (62:14)

6. Venezuela, Trump, and the Nobel Peace Prize (117:00–128:07)

• Pat: Recaps Trump’s “great conversation” with Venezuela’s president amid opposition leadership shift.
• Ann Coulter: Cheers Trump’s Monroe Doctrine approach (“This is our neighborhood”), supports US installing “puppets” for stability. Notes US had less trouble with crime/drugs when supporting anti-communist regimes.
• Adam: Emphasizes Miami’s Venezuelan/Cuban community is uniformly anti-Maduro; lauds Trump and Rubio’s approach.
• Maria Corina Machado, recognized Venezuelan opposition leader, symbolically presents her Nobel Peace Prize to Trump; White House/Joe Biden remains cool, not recognizing opposition as legitimate government.

7. Dilbert Creator Scott Adams’ Death and Obituary Discourse (84:21–98:02)

• Played wife’s tearful reading of Adams’ final message accepting Christ (87:23).
  • Vinnie: Questions sincerity, worries it’s a “Pascal’s Wager” move; hopes Adams had “a real moment” with faith (89:41).
  • Ann Coulter: Calls out double standard—Dilbert obit headline called Adams “disgraced”; O.J. Simpson’s death reported neutrally.
  • “O.J. Simpson, a murderer, died. And their headline was, ‘O.J. Simpson dead at 76 from cancer, family announces.’ … when Scott Adams dies because he was a Trump supporter, look what they write: ‘Scott Adams, disgraced Dilbert creator…’” – Vinnie (92:16)
  • Debate about “deathbed conversions,” arguments about faith, and media hypocrisy.

8. Obesity, Oprah, Ozempic, and Personal Responsibility (98:59–105:49)

• Oprah’s new line: “You don’t overeat and become obese; obesity causes you to overeat.”
  • Ann Coulter: “It makes me so angry that people are not just eating right and exercising... Of course overeating causes obesity.” (99:52)
  • RFK Jr. tweet read aloud: “Yes, you were overeating for years... It was your choices. Stop selling surrender as science.”
  • Panel ridicules idea of genetic determinism in obesity, counters with personal accountability ethos.

9. Transgender Ideology, Science, and Culture Wars (106:39–111:45)

• Clip: Sen. Josh Hawley struggles to get a doctor to admit “men can’t get pregnant” (asks 11 times).
  • General frustration at “party of evil”/Democrats for “insanity” in denying basic scientific facts.
  • Ann Coulter: Surprised Democrats persist on such unpopular issues.
  • Conversation turns to abortion: adoption anecdotes, stat—73 million abortions per year worldwide, ~1M in US.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ann Coulter:
  “Minnesota is violating federal law. Immigration law is federal. The Supreme Court has held this 1 million times.” (08:28)
  “ICE’s improper temporary detention rate is effectively zero.” (23:11)
  “I just don’t care about the rest of the world right now. We need to get back to our country... our country is in a lot of trouble.” (53:17)

• Adam:
  “What Israel or Mossad does not do is kill innocent people. Hey, Iranian regime. That’s your job, buddy.” (51:29)
  “Being liked is fleeting... being respected—yo, that’s respect, sir.” (140:10)

• Vinnie:
  “This is all a show to distract everybody from... the real problem... they're scamming us and nobody’s going to care...” (15:00)
  “If there’s a way that the United States could make Venezuela a better place for those... good. I’m all for it. Make your place good so you don’t have to come here and ruin ours.” (128:58)

• Pat:
  “I know it’s going to upset a lot of socialists and communists and TDS folks, but I don’t mind it.” (131:44) – On expansionist, interventionist America

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Other Segment Timestamps

• Insurrection Act, ICE, Fraud Discussion: 07:34–16:02
• Iran & Reza Pahlavi Deep-Dive: 45:34–84:20
• Venezuela, Monroe Doctrine: 117:00–128:07
• Obesity/GLP-1/Oprah: 98:59–105:49
• Trans Debate/Josh Hawley: 106:39–111:45
• Epstein Inquiry/Clintons: 143:14–153:11

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Tone & Style

• Brisk, irreverent, and combative
• Mix of humor, pop-culture references, and policy analysis
• Candid moments (e.g., Ann Coulter’s Iran apathy, panel irreverently addressing even sensitive topics)
• Frequent mockery of media, left-leaning politicians, and political correctness

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Conclusion

This episode offers a punchy, uncensored take on urgent political stories with heavy focus on law enforcement, border security, international regime change, and media bias. Ann Coulter’s appearance drives the show’s confrontational style. Guests and hosts weave together recent news, historical precedent, and personal philosophy for a fast-paced, combative, but engaging discussion.

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For Easter Eggs & Deeper Cuts:

• Listen to Ann Coulter on adoption and abortion (111:04+)
• Vinnie’s emotional response to Iranian protest audio (62:14)
• Panel’s satirical breakdown of DC/“homewrecker” politics (38:07+)
• Classic “dad joke” failures from Tom (43:32)
• Ongoing jabs at media—double standards in obituaries and news language

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Rec: If you want detailed commentary on current immigration debates, the global authoritarian-vs-democracy struggle, and right-populist media dynamics—with plenty of fireworks—this episode is a must-listen.

Transcript

[Tom]

Did you ever think you were made again.

[Adam]

Adam?

[Tom]

What's your point?

[Pat]

The future looks bright.

[Adam]

My handshake is better than anything I ever saw.

[Pat]

It's right here. You are a1of1.

[Tom]

My son's right about.

[Pat]

I don't think I've ever said this before. All right, we got a special friend in the house. Ann Coulter. Great to have you back on. On.

[Ann Coulter]

Good to be here.

[Pat]

Yes. Great to have you back on. Thank you. This is the interim set. We're rebuilding the other set. So Nick, Sam will take you to the other set that we're building. And Tom, for 20 years, still doesn't know how to turn off his phone. Get his phone away from his. Can you do me a favor? No, no. Do me this favor. Rob, please grab Tom's phone because he just watches the live the entire time, gets distracted. Can you please come and grab Tom's phone? Do me a favor and do that.

[Ann Coulter]

I do.

[Pat]

Because it always makes noise. Grab it from him and set him aside. Go ahead and grab it from. And set it aside. Thank you. All right. Finally we did.

[Adam]

What did I do?

[Vinnie]

30 seconds before he said, hey, make sure your phone's off so he doesn't even listen.

[Pat]

Tom has a rule of three. Here's Tom's rule of three. It's the first time you say Tom. Yes, he's still here. Second time you say Tom, in his brain, he goes by. The third time you say Tom, he hears it. Yeah, Just a rule of threes.

[Adam]

But by that point, the phone's already rang seven times.

[Pat]

You know what that's called? That's called when you are maniacally focused, you hear no noise.

[Vinnie]

Signal.

[Pat]

Make some noise for being focused on signal.

[Tom]

You know, it's also the myth of the married man, where after 10 years of marriage, it's always. I'm sorry, I didn't hear you till the third time you called.

[Adam]

Great defense mechanism.

[Pat]

Well, I'm sure Kim appreciates that. Guys, while this is going on, there's this. Apparently, this story about a lady who would fly in his. Her bodyguard and would give him Molly mdma. And the ex wife of the bodyguard is soon. Am I saying it correctly, Rob, this sounds like a movie. Kirsten Cinema. Which is a very.

[Adam]

You're talking about titty for a second.

[Pat]

No, no, this is actually. You know, we'll talk about that. Trump insurrection. There's some things going on in there. We'll talk about that. Obviously, a lot's going on with Iran. Brett Baer did a phenomenal interview with the Iran Foreign minister and it got heated because he was calling him out. So we'll get into that. This is like an quote. All she wants to talk about is Iran. She said right before that is the most exciting story. I want to talk about number one story. So we want to make sure answer. She wanted to go do nine stories on Iran. We said we can't do that many but we will do a couple. Iran issue sickening assassination threat against Trump Iranian protesters family says execution has been postponed which is good news. Trump praises Iran's exile royal as very nice but doesn't go as far as fully supporting regime change with him. Trump brags about a very good call with terrific Venezuelan president ahead of meeting with opposition leader that came through I think yesterday Karina Machado if I'm not mistaken, Rob handed over the Nobel Peace Prize to Trump and there was a picture about it. But Caroline Levitt right afterwards said something very interesting. She said his opinion on her still hasn't changed as being the leader. I know. And you probably got some thoughts on that. We'll come to you with that. Trump says he supports Venezuela remaining in opec. Tom has some thoughts on that which I don't know if it really means remaining in opec. Trump confirms leaker on Venezuela in jail. Very bad leaker is who he was buying Greenland could cost as much as $700 billion. I don't know who's coming out with that number, but that's what NBC News is saying. Josh Hawley Listen, Trump, Tom's got the three rule right. He asked this lady the same question 11 times and she still wouldn't answer. And allegedly she's a doctor which at the end I think she says call me by my, you know, call me doctor. You know, it reminded me of that scene. Paging doctor you know, from the movie. I don't want to finish the rest but you know, yeah, wonderful movie documentary. But facing corrupt threat, Clinton's refused to testify in Epstein's inquiry. Now here's what's weird. Can you imagine Jon Stewart who gets in and says they should absolutely comply with Epstein's subpoena and go testify. All right, so even Jon Stewart wants to see Clintons get involved. White House responds to Joe Rogan's warning that ICE behaviors Minneapolis resembles Hitler's Gestapo exodus of immigrants, a hit for the US Economy Study says that's a barren story. Fetterman, who is more and more becoming a very illogical player says ICE should continue arrest and not slow down. That's Fetterman for you. Renee. Good's former father in law doesn't blame ICE agent for shooting illegal Venezuelan migrants shot in Minneapolis after mercilessly ambushing Fed agent with snow shovel. This was an interesting story because two things were going on at the same time. We'll talk about that. Lefty LA poll polls tout mansion tax but less than 1% of the billion has gone to affordable housing. Very, very good story. We'll get into that as well. California billionaires rage at huge tax bill to fund illegal immigrant health subsidies. Stephen A. Smith calls out Jasmine Crockett for ducking him after she hurled racial insults at him, calling him Django. And a couple other things which we'll get into that. And then I got a few other stories here on what happened with Dilbert cartoonist final message. You guys saw the Ex Wife, which.

[Vinnie]

Which was very emotional.

[Pat]

Amazing. But did you see what the Journal is how they. Yes, from People magazine for sure. We have to cover that as well. Goldman Sachs predicts blockbuster 2026 for M& A mega deals. Vinnie's got entire analysis on that.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Pat]

And then that's where we are. So with that being said, Vinnie's got something special he wants to share with you guys. And when Vinnie does this, it's a very, very special moment. So, Vinnie, tell us what you've been working on.

[Vinnie]

Thank you, Pat. So, as you guys know, I have the Faith Over Fear line. And this shirt that I'm wearing right now is our newest. Faith Over Fear was more of how you live. This shirt is on how you stand. So In Isaiah, chapter 6, verse 8, Isaiah has a vision of. Of God in his throne. And he's asking. He wants somebody to step up, to go to Israel, to, you know, call people to God. They're resisting. They're rejecting him. And God says, whom. Whom shall I send? And who will go for us? And Isaiah, knowing the cost, just answers quick. He goes, here am I. Send me. And there's actually a moment, Pat, in the movie Fury, do you guys remember Shia LaBeouf? His name is Bible. In the. In the movie, John Bernthal, Brad Pitt. They're in this tank division. The tank has been destroyed, okay? They know that they're all going to die. They. They can run, they could leave, but they choose to stay there and delay the enemy from advancing. And. And. And Shia LaBeouf has that moment where he goes, this is a righteous act, gentlemen. And he quotes the verse from Isaiah. He goes, here am I. Send me. So it's about answering the call even when it costs everything. So that's what this Shirt means today it's speaking the word when it's unpopular and standing firm regardless of the consequences. And I had. So the front of the shirt is Isaiah 68. Valuetainment is here, and that's the back of the shirt right there. Here am I. Send me. It's live right now on VT. Merch.com get you guys a shirt. And yeah, that's.

[Pat]

I'm proud of you, buddy.

[Vinnie]

By the way, I'm proud of you.

[Adam]

For reading the Torah.

[Vinnie]

You're welcome.

[Pat]

Yeah. Last time he did this, 10,000 faith over fear shirts were picked up. So go pick yourself up a shirt and represent. All right, with that being said, let's get right into it. I'm going to go into the top story. What could happen if Trump invokes the Insurrection act in Minnesota? Okay, so let's go through this. Rob, I think you got a couple of clips on this. President Trump on Thursday tweeted this or Truth Social this. If the corrupt politicians of Minnesota don't obey the law and stop the professional agitators and insurrectionists from attacking the patriots of ICE who are only trying to do their job, I will institute the Insurrection act, which many presidents have done before me, and quickly put an end to the travesty that is taking place in that once great state. Thank you for your attention, Donald J. Trump. And how do you feel about this?

[Ann Coulter]

Of course he should do this. And I don't even think he needs to invoke the Insurrection Act. It's funny how the New York Times avoids talking about the two most famous incidents of President sending troops against the wishes of a state's governor Eisenhower sending them to Little Rock because to walk nine black school children into the school. Why? Because they were disobeying federal law. It was a Supreme Court ruling. You can't discriminate. The governors, the mayors were saying, we're going to keep discriminating. And so Eisenhower sends, you know, the 101st Airborne to walk these nine black. And then JFK did the same thing in Alabama directly against the governor. The governor called out his own national troops. George Wallace, famous name that was to walk two students into University of Alabama. So we have nine sad black students. Two sad black students. And of course, the Constitution and federal law being violated and they go down in history as heroes. Minnesota is violating federal law. Immigration law is federal. The Supreme Court has held this 1 million times. They did it, I'll just say briefly, because it's recent. I mean, I've been alive in America for more than two weeks. When Arizona passed that what everybody called the papers please law. You'll remember that. Oh, it's like Nazi Germany, which was upheld by the Supreme Court, at least that one provision. The rest of the law was overturned. All Arizona had said is what we want to comply with the federal government, we're going to help. We aren't going to do anything that federal immigration law doesn't say, but we're going to help enforce federal immigration law. Obama was president and he sued saying, I don't want to enforce federal immigration law. The Supreme Court says federal government wins. So absolutely he has constitutional authority to do this. And if you look at how the governor and the mayor are behaving, I mean, just today, I think the governor, Tim Walt, said Minnesota is an island. Well, no, you're not an island from federal law.

[Pat]

Did he really say he's an island?

[Ann Coulter]

Yes, that. I mean, that's like seceding from the union. Of course he should send federal troops.

[Pat]

Wow. Tom, your thoughts on this?

[Tom]

Well, you and I lived in Los Angeles at a time in 1992, which was also a time that the Insurrection act was under. The, the riots, Rodney King, and the city was being torn apart. The, the police were overwhelmed. And when the police are overwhelmed, that's when the National Guard comes in. This is when, look, a hurricane or an earthquake happens. And our governors say, hey, we have a disaster area. I need you to declare me a disaster area so I can get federal funds. And by the way, can you please send relief people, troops, supplies, whatever it is. And so, and we'll ignore the failure of Hurricane Katrina, but in Los Angeles, we had Korean shopkeepers that were on top trying to protect their own buildings. And it was invoked at that time appropriately. This is exactly when it should be invoked. And it's interesting that everybody's clinging to the word insurrection in the media, cuz that was a word they clung to on January 6th because they had to make it an insurrection, because insurrection is the operative term that was in the Constitution that they wanted to pin on, on, oh, you've created an insurrection on Trump. So when you look at this, I think not only is this appropriate, it is not appropriate. It's urgent, it's obligatory. It's not should Trump do it? It's why is he waiting for any opinion to say, this is out of control here and I have to protect the people of the state because it's the union, it's one of the states of the union. So I got to step in here.

[Vinnie]

I think he's late. This should have happened the Day after the incident happened with Be good, whatever. Renee Goode with the pin wearing. But can we just take a step back?

[Tom]

Like martyr du jour.

[Vinnie]

Yeah, exactly. We're watching a state. This is, this is. Look at the timeline. A state that was just exposed for one of, if not the biggest fraud scandals in the history of the United States. Scott Bessant came out and said, 10% of our money is going to fraud $600 billion a year. And is it just a coincidence that all this stuff is happening here, that they've he. They've energized these people?

[Pat]

They.

[Vinnie]

By the way, this isn't happening organically. You, you think these people with all the same signs, all the same movement. Cash Patel came out yesterday and said if you think this is just organic, you're insane. And they're going to go after all of them.

[Pat]

600 billion.

[Vinnie]

600 billion have that clip. $600 billion a year. This is it right here. No investigations.

[Pat]

And these men and women, they are cool cats. They can take apart a balance sheet.

[Vinnie]

And they can knock down a door and arrest someone. They go out on patrols, they can make arrests. It's this very interesting hybrid force, about.

[Pat]

2500 of them, and they led the charge here.

[Vinnie]

So it was IRS cis who uncovered.

[Pat]

The initial fraud and the prosecutions. So it's with that group, with other groups at IRS, and with the powers of the treasury to track where the money came from, where it's going. We saw this very unsettling news yesterday that many people involved here with the administration of these programs and tried to go back and recreate documents, change documents. Rob, when does he say 600 billion? We're not, we're not going to have that. We are going to hold people accountable. We're going to.

[Vinnie]

Press this to the full extent possible.

[Pat]

And like I said, I think that this may just be.

[Vinnie]

It's a cold day outside.

[Pat]

So this could be the tip of the iceberg here in Minnesota, but it's probably may not be as prevalent, but.

[Vinnie]

The dollars may be bigger and larger in other states.

[Pat]

And just to put this in perspective for American taxpayers, for American families, the gao, the General Accounting Office, believes that there is somewhere between 3 and 600 billion of annual fraud, roughly. Wow.

[Vinnie]

10% of government spending, 10% disappears due to fraud.

[Pat]

If we can recapture that. You can pause that right there. How do you not track that?

[Ann Coulter]

How?

[Vinnie]

Yeah, how.

[Pat]

How do you not track that and find out who. It's government.

[Vinnie]

What. Wasn't that Doge and wasn't Doge's Job supposed to go in, find all this situation and just really quick, if you, if you. Because this is where I'm coming from. Is it? I'm putting two to two together. They just got exposed. So instead of going, yeah, guys, let's just face the fire. They take this moment because they were pushing it. Tim Walls is like the Gestapo. This. This is one of those moments like in House of Cards where they sit there and they wait for a moment to happen and they capitalize. This is their moment. Now it's, hey, don't worry about the fraud. It's Trump is a Nazi. These people are Gestapo. And I just hope that I know Cash Patel said he's going to be looking into it. Like I said last week, I don't care about basketball, gambling. That's a whole different situation. This is six. This is hundreds of billions of dollars a year. This is what we care about. And this is all a show to distract everybody from what the real problem is. And that's a problem. They've imported all these people. They're not working, Pat. They're sitting there and they're scamming us and nobody's going to care about it. I'm sorry.

[Tom]

It's a loop. And the loop we saw or Ukraine, Ukraine gets a bunch of money, but a lot of it's allocated for defense. It comes right back to General Dynamics.

[Vinnie]

And Boeing and north money laundering and.

[Tom]

All them comes back. They then send equipment to Ukraine. Now they have these billions of dol. They say thank you through a lobbyist. They say thank you through a pac. And now the money that Senator Blowhard voted to send to Ukraine has made a loop back and Senator Blowhard has got PAC money and campaign money back in. And it is an internal cycle. And that's how they keep stasis. That is their stability, these cycles. And now all they've done in Minnesota is it wasn't a foreign war, it was a systemic fraud loop that they created. Except now the unintended consequence which the, which the creators or the. Or the intentional closed eyes created was money went to Al Shabaab. And then some of that money came back. So all of a sudden, enclosed. Enclosed rooms. You gotta believe that walls and others enclosed rooms is like crap.

[Pat]

Well, let me do this to Al Shaba. I want you to see this. Watch this US Rep from Minnesota, Angie Cray, look what she says here and tell me if this is helping out. Go ahead, Rob. Yes or no?

[Ann Coulter]

Do you think Congress should shut down the government over ICE and DHS funding to make A statement. Look, I'm not in the room with.

[Pat]

Leadership, but what I can tell you, what is happening in America, the path.

[Ann Coulter]

That we are traveling certainly reminds me.

[Pat]

Of many of the images that we.

[Ann Coulter]

Saw in the 1930s in Germany. And we should stand up to this lawless administration. And right now you can say something.

[Pat]

Like that and get away with it, right? What are you saying, Adam, your thoughts?

[Tom]

I missed the part in Germany where foreigners created fraud. I missed that part. There was an extermination that was going on. First the criminals, then the gypsies, then the people in asylums, and then later the horror of the Holocaust. So I miss the part in Germany where there is a fraud loop.

[Pat]

Adam.

[Vinnie]

So ridiculous.

[Adam]

Well, this whole shenanigans comes down to one word for me, and that's midterms. So we're in a perpetual election cycle in this country. And as Tom has always pointed out, they're looking for their next George Floyd. And guess what? They found her. And her name is Renee Good. So, by the way, the heroes of the left are a little bit different than the heroes of the right. Rest in peace, Charlie Kirk, absolute hero. Heroes of the left are George Floyd, drug addict, wife beater, woman beater, and this woman who's a weaponized agent against ice. So to me, the bigger story here is there may be a kernel of truth in all this, but then you have what I would call people just looking to act a fool. So if you remember after Rodney King, 1992, okay, that guy got his ass whipped by the police, we get it. But now people in L. A want to burn down their entire city as retribution. And I remember after Katrina they started looting. And then the great Greg, Geraldo the comedian, goes, no, I understand you want to get some stuff, but you need a TV and some beer in the middle of a hurricane. Like that seems a little inappropriate. And then the whole conversation about what the BLM riots did in Minnesota, you know, callback, the ironic thing, shout out to Alanis Morissette is donald Trump was accused of doing an insurrection. Look at what's happening in all these cities. Last point, just to my friends on the left, on the right, enough with the holocaust stuff. I was actually with a Holocaust survivor 95 year old woman. I mean, she's an amazing woman. She's the grandmother of my good friend Jeremy. And I said, hey, you know, they're saying a lot of things are akin to the holocaust these days, you know, this thing in ice. And she goes, oh, yes. Well, I was one of eight children. All my Other siblings were murdered. My entire family was put into Auschwitz concentration camp. My aunts, my uncles, grandparents, they're all dead. So please forgive me if I protest. Not Nazi Germany. I saw it like. Thank you for having some sort of rationale here. There's a big difference between protesting and God forbid, something get injured or killed, whatever, versus the intentional genocide of an entire population.

[Pat]

Well, but you have the. That's. That's a great argument point you're making, but here's Joe Rogan talking about what it looks like on tv, what it's looking like to the average person that's watching it. Go ahead, Rob.

[Vinnie]

You don't want militarized people in the streets just roaming around snatching people up, many of which turn out to actually be U.S. citizens that just don't have.

[Tom]

Their papers on them.

[Vinnie]

Are we really going to be the Gestapo? Where's your papers?

[Adam]

Is that what we've come to?

[Pat]

And what do you think about what Joe said? There's.

[Ann Coulter]

I'm just horrified that my party is so bereft of Hollywood celebrities that they will latch onto someone who was a janitor in a 1970s sitcom and make him into this hero. I've always thought Joe Rogan is a moron. If young men are looking for a masculine podcast, I would definitely recommend this one over that. I mean, his claim to fame is he was first. So he gets into interesting interview ease, but it's. The people he's talking to are interesting. He's not interesting.

[Pat]

You don't think Joe is interested? No, I think.

[Vinnie]

No.

[Ann Coulter]

And I think what he just said was utterly.

[Pat]

Have you ever, guys, ever.

[Ann Coulter]

In fact, you've just. I mean, I think you just demolished what he said there. I think everybody has this idea. They've been saying this since 2015 about Trump. Oh, which reminds me. I make fun of it in my book. In Trump We Trust. All of these op eds in 1930s. We're back to this. And he's comparing this to the Gestapo. As I just pointed out earlier, the one part of the Arizona law that was upheld by the Supreme Court was what liberals were all saying, oh, it's papers, please, it's papers. No, it's reasonable. Cause we're looking for illegal aliens. Of course you can consider accents, ability to speak English. What someone looks like that is part of the many things they are looking at. And the idea that they're pulling aside citizens. It's less than 1% of citizens who have even been briefly detained. It's less than 1% fraud, as opposed to 10% fraud in these feed your families programs.

[Vinnie]

If you don't mind, I actually have the numbers. So in the past. Great point. And in the last 12 months, there have been 100. This is one year, 170 confirmed instances in which an American citizen was temporarily or improperly detained by ice.

[Pat]

Okay?

[Vinnie]

In that same time frame, there have been approximately 622,000 forced deportations. Okay?

[Tom]

So.

[Vinnie]

And to your point, this puts ICE's improper temporary detention rate at zero. So in other words, ICE is doing a fantastic job and has a 99.973% success rate. Okay? And for when. And I respect Joe, but for saying the Gestapo and stuff, it's like they've caught the Gestapo bug. You know why? Because during Obama, you never saw it. CNN never showed it. MSNBC never showed it. Fox never. Nobody ever aired this stuff, okay? And just to add, on top of it, Trump wants to be number one. So he has to catch Obama, which got 5 million out. this pace, he's not going to do it. The Department of Homeland Security has publicly claimed that 1.9 undocumented illegal immigrants have voluntarily self deported. Okay? Since Trump took office. If you know it's coming, I know it's hard. You have to leave. Trump is enforcing the law. He didn't make the law.

[Tom]

1.9 million. You didn't say 1.9 million.

[Vinnie]

I'm sorry, 1.9 million people were like, you know what? They're coming. Let me leave, get my stuff together and potentially come back the right way. I don't see the problem. Because think about it. Trump's kicking ass. Sorry for my language on every other aspect. This is the one thing they have to do. You know why? What is the Democratic Party running on? What is Gavin Newsom was yesterday on with Ben Shapiro? He has nothing. It's just lie after lie after lie. This is all they run on is hatred for us. It's hatred for us. Gestapo, Hitler. It's like, it's enough.

[Tom]

Enough Emotion and outrage are absent. And they don't have a platform.

[Vinnie]

There's no platform. They have no policy. They have nothing. They have no leaders.

[Adam]

Nothing. Well, I think this was a really bad take by Joe Rogan, but that doesn't mean he's a bad person. In fact, respectfully, he's the goat of podcasting. So you said his claim to fame, he was first. Touche. The great Ann Coulter. He's still first. Remember when we were with Rogan and he goes, listen, I'm number one in 92 countries. That's a big difference between being number 92 in one country. So the challenge that Rogan will have is he's so good and he's so big. One bad take, and this was a bad take. Respectfully, Mr. Rogan, it's going to get amplified. Even the White House responds. But overall, he's the goat in the podcasting space. He's still number one. And he's going to, you know, give him a little grace to make some mistakes.

[Pat]

But let me tell you, I would.

[Adam]

Love to see him walk down.

[Pat]

Let me tell you when. When I had a guy came to my place, Tom, you'll remember this, he sent me this offer. He says, please take this to the president. Tom Holman, they need to see this. He said, for you to be able to deport 10 million people, here's what the budget's going to be. You need people that are going to be finding folks. You need trucks, you need this. He said, it's going to take you 700. He gave a massive number of what it was going to take. Okay, great. When they started saying, we're going to deport, we're going to, you know, get rid of all these illegal immigrants, the first thing I went to is people that are emotional, that are just like regular people, that are going to watch the content, you know, how much great content is going to be produced to show how evil the current regime is, and they're taking them back to their country and separating them from their family. And look how cold they are, and look how this they are. So the average person, no matter who you are, who is not studying the numbers, who is not looking into this closely, is going to look at that. It's going to say, I cannot believe we're doing this. I can. And then you study history, and then you're explaining the history of insurrection, what Eisenhower did, what Kennedy did, Alabama, all this stuff. And if somebody goes, looks at the history, is like, wait a minute, we've been doing this for many, many times, as you have to do this to keep the American people safe. But I do believe, because it's such an emotional situation, that even the best and the brightest can fall for it and say, this is not fair. And millions will say, that's what we need. We need more people like this that are empathetic. But the reality of it is how many people it's going to take to do the next nine, 11. Go ahead. And let's figure out right now this year, what's coming up this year in June, July.

[Adam]

I heard it's our 250th birthday, baby.

[Pat]

But hang on a second. World cup is coming here.

[Adam]

Oh, that too.

[Pat]

Okay, so, so let one massive event take place. Let, let Munich. You thought, what happened with Munich? You know, let something like that happen here. And then it's an illegal immigrant that came here not from Mexico, not from Guatemala, not from El Salvador. But let's just say this person came from the Middle East. Boom, boom. And then they do something. Thousands of people died. Then we have to stop the World Cup, Then we have to stop the Games. And then who's going to be looking at saying, oh, you know what, all that stuff you were doing on the streets, why didn't you do more of it? Trump should have cleaned house better. You should have been more proactive. Oh, now you're saying that. And the problem, I was in the insurance space for 25 years. When you sell life insurance, the, the, the average person you talk to with life insurance and you say, like, I remember when I told my dad, I'm getting to the insurance space, he says, how does this work? I said, you pay a hundred dollars every month, but if you die, the insurance company will give you $250,000. He says, you believe this America company pay you 250. So I pay a hundred dollars. Three months, that's 300. A company called AIG is going to pay me $250,000. You're crazy if you believe it, right? The average person. But the reality of it is, you know how many times we had a client that paid a couple premiums and they were dealing with $500,000 policy? So many times. Yes, so many times. You don't buy insurance because you're going to die tomorrow. You buy. In case. We have to be very proactive with this. I'm glad he's doing it, but I also get. You can fall for the emotional videos and sit there and say what an evil thing that we're doing. We don't have to do this.

[Vinnie]

You know, I get that.

[Ann Coulter]

So expand on your point. Yes, the media is very powerful, and yes, a lot of people are, I think, falling for this. On the other hand, I don't quite believe the polls. I mean, the original polls from the New York Times and places like that were that the vast majority of Americans wanted Trump to deport all illegal aliens. New York Times published this, like 60.

[Pat]

Plus percent of you, if I remember.

[Ann Coulter]

Correctly, all criminal or not. And, and as, as with life insurance, somebody dying. There are a lot of Molly Tibbets out there. There are a lot of families who have been. Not only had children or relatives murdered or killed in drunk driving accidents, but victims of 9, 11. That was an immigration problem. Whose neighborhoods have been overtaken. Whose pets are being eaten or whatever.

[Adam]

They're eating the dogs.

[Ann Coulter]

And it goes out in concentric circles. It doesn't have to be you. Whose child. Who d. Whose child died. That whole neighborhood knows about that child. And I think there are a lot of Americans who are not as as vocal as some of those on the left who are looking at this and saying, I don't care. I don't care. Just get them out. Biden brought in 20 million. We gotta get him out.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

By the way, I wanna show something.

[Adam]

Sure.

[Pat]

Rob, can you do me a favor? Find the clip of Caroline Levitt talking to this reporter. Everybody has to watch this. Watch this clip here, folks.

[Ann Coulter]

From the top rope, unfortunately. And tragically killed.

[Pat]

Are you asking me my opinion?

[Vinnie]

Because a nice agent acted recklessly until they unjustify.

[Ann Coulter]

Oh, okay. So you're a biased reporter with a left wing opinion.

[Vinnie]

What do you want me to do?

[Pat]

Yeah, because you're a left wing hack.

[Ann Coulter]

You're not a reporter. You're posing in this room as a journalist. And it's so clear by the premise of your question. And you and the people in the media who have such biases, but fake like you're a journalist. You shouldn't even be sitting in that seat. Seat. But you're pretending like you're a journalist, but you're a left wing activist.

[Pat]

And the question that you just raised.

[Ann Coulter]

And your answer proves your bias. You should be reporting on the facts. You should be reporting on the cases. Do you have the numbers of how many American citizens were killed at the hands of illegal aliens who ICE is trying to remove from this country? I bet you don't. I bet you didn't even read up on those stories. I bet you never even read about Lake and Riley or Jocelyn Nungray or.

[Pat]

All of the innocent Americans who were.

[Ann Coulter]

Killed at the hands of illegal aliens in this country. And the brave men and women of ICE are doing everything in their power to remove those heinous individuals and make our communities safer. And shame on people like you in.

[Vinnie]

The media who have watched that all day.

[Pat]

Crooked View.

[Vinnie]

I can watch it all day with.

[Ann Coulter]

You and pretend like you're a real honest journalist.

[Pat]

Why was. Go ahead.

[Adam]

Can I react to that, by the way? Caroline Levin is a straight verbal assassin gangster. And I mean that in the highest possible way.

[Pat]

No.

[Adam]

One of us. I won't name names. Was joking backstage. He's like, well, that's why I don't think women should be in power leadership. Here's exhibit A that that gentleman didn't know what he's talking about because there's Ann Coulters of the world and Caroline Levitts of the world that just dismiss all your preconceived notions. You know how when someone like has a mic drop thing and like they stop the video and sunglasses come in, they put a blunt in their mouth and it's like, yay, yay. And it's a gangster thing. She should have 100 of those. Caroline Levitt is a verbal gangster. That thank you for doing what you're doing.

[Pat]

What Fetterman said about it. Rob, if you want to go to Fetterman, I'm going to I'll make this the last clip and then we'll move on to the next story. This is, this is a Fetterman. Go ahead.

[Tom]

Rob Border and it was sky skyrocketing.

[Pat]

You know, and it's like that's unsustainable when you reach almost 300,000 people, that's unsustainable. And we need to, you know, as.

[Tom]

A Democrat, it shouldn't be unreasonable to want to secure our border and do.

[Pat]

It in that way. And now let's also, let's also talk about ICE now. Absolutely.

[Tom]

Again, what happened in Minneapolis was absolutely tragic.

[Pat]

And then now if you think now.

[Tom]

This is from the Washington Post.

[Pat]

You know, this is the latest statistics. These are people that ICE now are though.

[Tom]

It's like now 67% have criminal charges pending ones or that, that, that.

[Adam]

So that's more than two thirds, you.

[Vinnie]

Know, the people now, now there are.

[Tom]

Some people that aren't involved in any.

[Pat]

Kinds of illegal things, you know, but.

[Tom]

So me, I think two things can be true. You know, round up all the criminals, deport them. They shouldn't have ever been here and they definitely have to go.

[Pat]

And now, I don't know, want to.

[Tom]

See more and more things happening in Minneapolis now, too. So two things must be true and I strongly reject the extreme on either.

[Pat]

Side, you know, about this now.

[Tom]

So we must be true and you.

[Pat]

Know, pretty, pretty wild that he is becoming a voice of reason.

[Vinnie]

Isn't that crazy him? It took one injury and he's back to normal. He said bless him. But and at the end of the day, this is what drives me crazy because, Tom, I know you want to say something and he wants to move on. When you have the mayor and the, the governor and Ilhan Omar calling to action, get in Their faces do this. They're the. And then something like this happens. How, where's the accountability? You want to talk about Insurrection act when, when they said Donald Trump told them to go and go in there and what, no, this is what they're doing. And there has to be accountability for you sending in the troops and then one of the troops gets killed and then it's like, no, no, I have, we have nothing to do with it. What do you, what are you going to say, Tom?

[Tom]

What I'm going to say is there's a case study on this if we want to really look at it. And it's called Portland, Oregon. And Portland, Oregon had all of these police officers defund the police. Defund the police. Police officers took early retirement. Police officers went to other parts of the country being paid a partial pension on Portland cause they retired and then they became police officers elsewhere. Today in Portland, Oregon, the voters are asking to refund, not pay back, but let's fund the police. There is a shortage of 200 officers in Portland, Oregon. People feel less safe. The people are concerned about it. You can see it in bipartisan polling. There's the case study. There's where this ends. This ends years later because we're now four years later in Portland, Oregon without adequate policing with an insecure populace. They're looking around and saying what the hell happened? There's the case study.

[Adam]

I just want to give a shout out to John Fetterman and all the other Democrats that have been supporting John. Oh none are zero. No one else in the Democratic Party. So one thing he said is so important, he goes, two things can be true at once. So for John Fetterman you can be a Democrat but also have common sense. Unfortunately it starts and stops with John.

[Pat]

Yeah, well I mean there's another Democrat right now that left the Democratic Party and became an independent who is a fan of. Her name is not Molly, but she's a fan of Molly. Rob told me the story this morning. I couldn't believe it. So you know, here's Kirsten Rob again. This could be this sounds like from a movie like this doesn't sound real. Rob, go ahead and play this clip. Former U.S. senator Kyrsten Sinema is being sued as a homewrecker for allegedly ruining.

[Adam]

A 14 year marriage.

[Pat]

The lawsuit was filed in North Carolina.

[Adam]

By a woman named Heather Amell. She's the now ex wife of a.

[Pat]

Former Sinema bodyguard and Senate staffer.

[Adam]

North Carolina is one of the few states that has a so called home.

[Tom]

Record law and that allows People to.

[Pat]

Sue a spouse's lover who may have played a role in a breakup of a marriage.

[Tom]

Amel claims Sinema had an affair with.

[Adam]

Her husband during trips across the country and around the world and that Sinema used campaign funds to pay for all of it. The senator also accused of ethics violations.

[Tom]

For those same trips while she was still in office.

[Pat]

Amel is seeking more than $25,000 in damages. Her ex husband, Matthew Amell was hired.

[Adam]

As a security guard for Cinema in 2022.

[Pat]

He later joined her Senate staff.

[Adam]

Court papers claim Sinema sent encrypted messages to Amel on the app signal they were of a romantic nature and told him to bring the drug Ema or.

[Pat]

Molly on a work trip so she.

[Adam]

Could, quote, guide him through a psychedelic.

[Pat]

Experience because he was suffering from ptsd. He's a former service. Guide him. Sinema was elected as a lot of guidance. That's the word nowadays. Three years ago was entanglement. Today it's guide me. Let me guide you. Where to Josh? Anyways, you can pause that right now. Okay, so there was $75,000 from Cinema Matthew and Heather. By the way, can we see what at least he looked like? He looks like the body. I want to know what the bodyguard looks like and what the ex wife looks like. If you can pull that up. The Arizona lawmaker head of security Matthew Ammo after he retired from the army in 2022, according to him. But that's him. And look at the way she's looking at him. Is that her behind her?

[Vinnie]

Yes, indeed.

[Adam]

Is that Rob Gargiulo? What is going on? Is he a pants on?

[Vinnie]

Are you in an entanglement?

[Pat]

Rob? Is that really him?

[Adam]

Yes, sir.

[Pat]

And then what does his wife look like? Ex wife look like. Can we get a little bit of a cinema also paid for psychedelic treatment for a male who has struggle with opposing. Okay, anyways. Crazy story that just came out. Little weird story. But it's politics. You know, stuff like this happens. What do you think about the story Vinnie, where you have with this? I mean does it doesn't make you want to DM Kristen Cinema? Are you like.

[Vinnie]

You know what she's.

[Pat]

She sounds interesting.

[Vinnie]

Maybe hey, she's back bisexual. And Matthew began to communicate more frequently to point Heather notice him single messaging and then send it including listen. I mean again, this is politics and I know I brought up house of Cards recently. I want everybody out there. I mean I'm being dead. I know you've seen it, right Pat?

[Pat]

You see, of course, if you want.

[Vinnie]

To And I'm being dead serious. You want to find out what Washington is like politics, you know, sexual relations, gay. Go do me a favor. Kevin Spacey did a freaking phenomenal job and they freaking pulled back the curtain on what Washington. And these people are like, I'm not surprised. And using campaign financing.

[Tom]

This is shocking. You know, here you have Senator Sin with me. I mean cinema, cinema, cinema, cinema. You know, drug, sex, rock, joke didn't land.

[Pat]

Tom, I just want you to know otherwise.

[Tom]

I used to think drug, sex, rock and roll was like the soundtrack of the 60s. Now it's branches of government.

[Pat]

Yeah. Okay. Anne, do you care about the story?

[Ann Coulter]

No, it's interesting. I guess she wasn't, she wasn't a lesbian that long. If she's gone after this guy, I.

[Pat]

Respect that a little bit.

[Ann Coulter]

I know. Yeah, totally. We got one back. That's always. I love this home wrecker law. I think every state should consider having one. We, we, I, I will say we don't know the truth because it's a legal filing. But to bring it under home wrecking and not just have, have it come up generally in a, in divorce papers in general. You can't believe divorce papers. But huh. Homewrecker law.

[Pat]

What do you think about homewreck and law?

[Adam]

I don't know about homewreck and law, but I'll tell you what I think about Chris and cinema. Just when I thought politicians have reached an all time low. Here's Kirsten Cinema and brings it right back. She's my new favorite politician and I'll tell you why. As someone that's born and raised in a nightlife scene of Miami, I've never met anybody that has ever done molly, mdma, marijuana, no drugs. Miami is a very clean thing. So I will give her credit about something.

[Tom]

And her husband.

[Adam]

When Joe Biden was trying to pass all these ridiculous laws, there were two people that stood in his way. These independents. One was my favorite politician, Joe Manchin.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

And then she was the second one.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

So Joe Manchin got a lot of credit.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

For basically stopping this. Do you care woke agenda.

[Pat]

Do you care about this?

[Adam]

I'll tell you why I tell you why I care about it. It's the same thing with John Fetterman. As long as you're actually a policy person. I don't care if you have a brain injury, if you're wearing a hoodie everywhere you go. Do what's right for America. If she wants to do some bisexual, I don't care.

[Pat]

What do you think about as Long.

[Adam]

As you're a person that's doing good.

[Pat]

About the home record law.

[Adam]

So what is the exact like you're.

[Pat]

Wrecking, you know, you're ruining someone's marriage.

[Adam]

No, it's a free country.

[Ann Coulter]

Great.

[Adam]

I love the country.

[Vinnie]

It'll slow people like it'll be a.

[Adam]

Law like what is the exact lock.

[Vinnie]

You'Re gonna go rule.

[Ann Coulter]

It's a long standing tool tort. It's been in existence through common law forever. It used to be called alienation of.

[Adam]

Affection and I think it's alienation of affection act.

[Vinnie]

And by the way, this is a home record law officially called alienation of affection allows a spouse to sue a third party for interfering with and causing the breakdown of their marriage. Seeking money. Adam, because you're probably going to get in trouble for this. Damaging. For emotional harm. But it's only recognized in the US in a handful of states. But. And Pat, just to go back to.

[Tom]

North Carolina, Mississippi.

[Vinnie]

Absolute BS mdma, obviously.

[Adam]

Can I tell you why it's absolute bs? I'd be quick. So you're going to put the guilt and blame on the third party who has no affiliation. What about the husband? What about the wife? That.

[Vinnie]

But they know that you're married.

[Adam]

That's the problem.

[Vinnie]

But if they know that you're married.

[Ann Coulter]

Him in the divorce.

[Adam]

Do you know how many women are attracted to men with wedding slipping MDMA in his drink.

[Vinnie]

By the way, did you know she's drugging him?

[Adam]

That's illegal.

[Vinnie]

Well, in the 1970s, doing it willingly. Early eight 1980s therapists quietly used MDMA in guided sessions. And the goal was to help couples lower fear, feel empathy, talk honesty and just grab glow sticks and just go for it.

[Adam]

Oh, news flash. Drugs make you a little bit looser.

[Vinnie]

Well, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. But guess what? If you. Yeah, hey, if you're. If you're a girl or a guy and you're out there trying to sleep with married people and you. And they have kids and they have a family, you're going to ruin their lives. I like the law going, hey, you know how many young women should be.

[Adam]

In jail right now?

[Vinnie]

Then guess what? You. Adam, it's a sin. You're going to ruin the freaking.

[Adam]

Yeah, there's no discouraging young drunk women from.

[Vinnie]

From making bad decision. Yes, you can get sued there.

[Adam]

They don't care.

[Vinnie]

Okay, So.

[Ann Coulter]

I don't know.

[Adam]

I think this.

[Pat]

Listen, don't take that market away from Adam.

[Vinnie]

I apologize.

[Adam]

Listen, I'm a one woman man these days.

[Pat]

Tom, Go ahead, Tom.

[Tom]

No, no, James. There was a very, you know, movie insert inappropriate joke.

[Adam]

Go ahead.

[Vinnie]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Adam]

Go ahead, Tom. Thank you for catching yourself.

[Pat]

He's got to make up for the last joke.

[Tom]

Roger. James Bond has got all of the relationship premises that you'd ever want to see. But the one that I love is Daniel Craig. And she says, says, am I not your type? And.

[Adam]

This joke is killing tough.

[Tom]

Go ahead. And he looks. She says, am I not your type? Like he says, forceful. No, Single.

[Adam]

Yeah, he did it.

[Tom]

He was only dating.

[Ann Coulter]

Because he's.

[Tom]

He was messing with the marriage.

[Adam]

The bad guy.

[Pat]

I think that's all for two, right?

[Adam]

Give him another chance.

[Pat]

Keep it going, Keep it going. You'll. You'll get one here, guys. We love you in the chat.

[Adam]

If you want to hear more of his dad.

[Tom]

All right.

[Pat]

Freak. Forget the home record law, which. Fine, I'm for the states that want to apply it make sense, have that in place. But for all the other stuff with her, you know, it's politics. It's a nasty world. You know, I don't even think she's in the top 50 of the craziest stories that happens in politics. You remember that one clip where the one guy was. What was he at? Robbie? They were gay politicians. They were in there doing some stuff and the picture came out with a guy was sitting on a bent over in the.

[Vinnie]

Bent over doesn't make it in the top 50.

[Pat]

Like something. I bet there's other guys that are.

[Ann Coulter]

Saying decade ago.

[Tom]

Congressional hearing room.

[Pat]

Yeah, that was 40.

[Ann Coulter]

Oh, that was stat.

[Adam]

This.

[Ann Coulter]

This to me, talking about the senator.

[Tom]

Spent a little bit in the psych ward.

[Adam]

This to me is the equivalent of term limits. So you're going to have congressmen and women say, yeah, yeah, let's. Let's pass laws to make sure I can't cheat or I have to leave office.

[Tom]

No, in this case, the psychoard is pronounced.

[Pat]

Let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story. And we got to get to Iran as well. So let's do a couple other kitchen.

[Adam]

For some reason.

[Pat]

I know, I'm just gonna wait for that one because that one we're gonna get to here in a minute. But let's get into matter of fact. Let's just get into Iran.

[Vinnie]

Let's do it.

[Pat]

Let's get into Iran. Okay, so a lot's been happening. A lot's been happening. But let's go to the Brett Bear interview, Rob, if you can. Brett Bear is interviewing Iran's. Foreign minister. And they have multiple heated moments. Rob, I think we got three, four, five clips to show. But let's start off with the one where they right off the bat, Brit Bear calls him out and he gets a little bit uncomfortable. And we'll watch the other ones. And again, these are claims. The numbers you hear confirmed is 2000 plus. The numbers you hear not confirmed, but a lot of publications are reporting right now is 12,500. A lot of people in the streets are saying the number is 20, 30, 40,000. But let's just go with that. Here's Brett Bear questioning the foreign minister of Iran. Go ahead, Rob.

[Tom]

And you're suggesting that it's Israel and Mossad acting like Iranian forces shooting the.

[Pat]

Iranian to make casualties to spur on.

[Tom]

The action of President Trump. I'm just saying there's a lot of people that don't believe that, Mr. Foreign Minister.

[Vinnie]

No, Mossad.

[Pat]

Mossad has already confessed that they may be on the ground, sir.

[Tom]

But as far as them killing hundreds and hundreds of people to make it.

[Pat]

Look like you did, it does not.

[Tom]

Appear in the video that we get out.

[Pat]

Okay, so that's one of them right now. Go to the next one, Rob. And by the way, let's stay on that since he's talking about Israel and Mossad. Netanyahu's plane leaves Israel's airspace mysteriously on January 14, which is two days ago. Now, this could be, you know, the key word here is mysteriously can be used in anything, right? It can be used. Adam mysteriously left on time this morning from Miami to come to the podcast. Mysteriously. Why did he mysteriously leave 15 minutes earlier? Right. There could be a lot of different things. Netanyahu playing leaves Rob, do you have that clip of Netanyahu's plane leaving early from. And what they were comparing you to is the last two times he left this way, there was an attack. One of them was on the nuclear air side. Nuclear sites that they had. Yeah, this is him apparently leaving mysteriously. Where is he going to? So they reported on this. This was all over the place. So I'm going to come back to this story since we're on Israel. And then I'm going to go back to the foreign minister. Netanyahu halts Trump from bombing Iran as Israel delivers vital intelligence on regime crackdown. And Tom, I want to come to you with this one here. Benjamin Netanyahu asked Donald Trump to not launch military strikes against Ayatollah's Islamic regime over fears Iran would retaliate against Israel. The Israel prime minister spoke to Trump On Wednesday, shortly before the president told report reporters that he had received information from very important sources on the other side that Iran had stopped executing anti regime protesters. Netanyahu had previously spoken to JD Vance on Tuesday, the same day that White House officials met to discuss military options against Iran. According to the New York Times, other Gulf nations, including Qatar, Saudi, Oman and Egypt have also implored the White House not to attack Iran over fears it could lead to regional conflict. Tom, thoughts on this story?

[Tom]

So there's two thoughts here that are, that are flowing. One is that Netanyahu is in both sides of the president's ears. One side, he's in there, you know, you have to do this with Iran. Iran's the manipulator. This is what's going on. And he's sort of a flattering bird on one shoulder trying to get Trump to move one way and on the other way, genuinely Israeli intelligence was saying, hey, we're not fully ready for what they might do. And they're so unstable, they might do more than a more rational, less rebellious Iran would do right now because their backs are up against the wall and they're cornered in these other areas. Be careful. And then you have the other Arab states saying, hang on, this could escalate. So I'm more with the second group that said that with a destabilized Iran, they might react more irrationally, more harshly than they would normally in a more stable, if you can use stable in Iran in the same sentence, a political zone, if you will, and that everyone's out there, Pat, saying Iran's destabilized. You don't know what kind of crazy reaction they might have here. Maybe we don't want to do this right now. And on the other hand, you got people saying, oh, here you go again. Netanyahu's right in Trump's ear and he's kind of guiding him more than we all think. But I think it's, I think it's the latter.

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[Adam]

So let me just get this straight. Brett Baer, professional journalist, is pressing the Foreign Secretary. What is this, the exact title?

[Tom]

Abbasaragshi.

[Adam]

Okay, Foreign minister, Foreign Minister. And he's basically saying, hey, word on the street is you're murdering your own people. And he goes, well, it's Israel, right? And Brett Bear goes, yeah, I don't think so. Is that the basic premise of that conversation? If you don't mind. Okay, got it. Well, let's go with some facts here. Does Israel take out Iranian nuclear scientists? You betcha they do. Does Iraq? Does Israel take out leaders and generals of Hamas and Hezbollah?

[Vinnie]

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[Adam]

Now, maybe your belt doesn't work. And anything about that, you bet they do. What Israel or Mossad does not do is kill innocent people. Hey, Iranian regime. That's your job, buddy. That's your job. Because the reality is, you know, they say that sunlight is the best disinfectant. Do you remember when your good friend Reza Pahlavi told everybody a week ago, 8pm everybody get out there and protest and then do it at 8pm do you remember this? Do you know what happened? By 8:30pm they cut the Internet and started murdering thousands of people. And there's videos. This is the number one story in the Wall Street Journal. A massacre happened the 24 hours that bloodied Iran. And by the way, this Wall Street Journal, pretty credible newspaper, they don't mention Israel, Mossad, once. They're looking at you, Ayatollah Khomeini, for killing your own people. Now, if you want to scroll down just a little bit, Rob, you can show actual videos. There's a video of Iranian police murdering their own people. So, you know, they say, like, don't believe your lion eyes. Well, what is this? So to me, it's absolute buffoonery for anyone that, that. That believes something like this. Last point, Brett Baer, I know we had a great moment with him. I don't know if you negotiated his new contract. He deserves it, probably. That's a real journalist sidetrack. Hey, Tucker Carlson, maybe that's what you should do when you have the President of Iran on, not give him sort of a fluffy interview. That's how you hold these people's feet to the fire and represent the people of Iran, not your own Qatari interest. That's my opinion.

[Pat]

And where are you at on this, this specific show? Because we got a few more.

[Ann Coulter]

Well, first, I'll just say briefly why I don't care about this story, which is. I'm sorry, I just don't care about the rest of the world right now. We were sort of in the habit this since 9, 11. But what happens in Iran really doesn't affect this country. I love Venezuela. I wrote about it two weeks ago. This is our hemisphere. It does give us an opportunity to talk about the worst. You know, the masterful handling of Iran by Jimmy Carter. And that's always good to remind people of that. He created this mess. But it just, it doesn't matter to us. We need to get back to our country. Our country is in a lot of trouble. You know, why not Gambia, Why not Rwanda? I don't want to hear about other countries anyway. That's why.

[Pat]

By the way, you know what's crazy? I fully understand that argument from an American. I fully get it. And for me, a part of it is who should care more about. Who should care more about Iran and their regime than Israel, US or Israel? Israel, their neighbor.

[Tom]

Regional neighbor.

[Pat]

Remember, Monroe, Donroe is what. This is our hemisphere, okay? This is our job. This is what we're going to be taking care of. This affects us. This is our neighborhood. This is what I'm going to be taking care of. I'm fully with that. Having said that, on the opposite side, and I want to give your thoughts on this as well, is for the Iranians around the world, who. They live in Europe, they live in Spain, they live in Paris, they live in Laverly Hills. Yeah. They live in Chicago, they live in New York. They're here, you know, they're living in Miami. These guys want to see this regime fall because they see what happened to their families in the last 47 years. In their opinion, nothing's happened because no US president has been wanting to get involved and do anything to them and intervene. And the last time they didn't intervene was with Jimmy Carter and the Shah. And the Shah fell. Khomeini came in. Since then, it's been chaotic. So. And then you can go back and look at the history, how back in the days, Mossadegh, he wins. He's there for two years and four months. He nationalizes the oil. And then UK is like, wait a minute, you're not doing that. British Petroleum, opec, we're there, we're running all this stuff. You guys don't have the infrastructure to run. If we came and build the whole thing in Abadan and we're doing this. No. So then they got rid of them. They brought the, the Shah in. And the Shah stays there for 37 years and a market opens up for everybody in The Middle east is at peace. So there was the argument comes from that side that it created a lot of noise. And so this last week, when you're talking about the Reza Palavi asking the Iranians to go on the streets, this is an interview that he got criticized for heavily. Because in this interview, Nora, I don't know what her last name is it Nora o'. Donnell. Nora o'.

[Adam]

Donnell.

[Pat]

Norah o' Donnell from cbs.

[Tom]

Yes, cbs.

[Adam]

She's an incredible journalist.

[Pat]

Pointed question, Rob. If you want to play this clip, go forward.

[Ann Coulter]

And as you are urging people to protest and go to the streets. The death toll, this violent crackdown continues just as it has in past attempted revolutions. I mean, is it responsible to be sending citizens in Iran to their deaths? Do you bear some responsibility?

[Vinnie]

As I said, as I said, as.

[Tom]

I said, this is a war and war has casualties.

[Vinnie]

In fact, in order to preserve and protect and minimize the death toll, minimize innocent victims, yet again be killed by this regime, action is needed.

[Tom]

The regime is going to try and.

[Vinnie]

Brutalize its citizenry as it has always done. But we are in a fight for liberation. I didn't ask the people to come to the streets to fight against the regime because I wanted. So they asked me to step in to help them and to be their.

[Tom]

Voice on the outside world to do.

[Vinnie]

Everything that we can so we make this uprising successful this time. And I think we have some serious leaders that understand what is necessary, that understand the ask of the Iranian people and are responding to that. I think President Trump is responding to the call that the Iranian people have. The Iranian people have heard his words. They are naming streets after him in Iran.

[Pat]

You can pause it right?

[Vinnie]

There's a difference.

[Pat]

When President Trump and his team watches this, what do you think they say? Do they say this is the guy we can get behind and help Iran be free again? Or do you think they say, I don't know if he has it or not? I don't know. Do they look at this and say this shows strong leadership? Do they look at this and say this guy's going to be able to go and, you know, get, win the people over and do that? I don't know. Here's what Trump did say. The president said Trump praises Iran exile royal as very nice but doesn't go as far as fully supporting regime change bid. Okay, Rob, is this the Hugh Hewitt clip? We've seen this one already. So I know this one here on him saying this. If you want to play this one more time, you can go and play the clip it's only 30 seconds. Would you meet with Crown Prince Pavla, who is the heir to the constitutional monarchy? He doesn't want to rule. He would be a, you know, symbolic ruler like King Charles.

[Tom]

Well, I've watched him and he seems.

[Adam]

Like a nice person, but I'm not sure that it would be appropriate at.

[Tom]

This point to do that as president.

[Adam]

I think that we should let everybody.

[Tom]

Go out there and we see who emerges.

[Vinnie]

I'm not sure necessarily that I.

[Pat]

This is an interview with Reuters on Wednesday, that this is a different interview. In an Oval Office interview with Reuters, he said that while Reza Pahlavi seems like a nice guy, Trump wasn't sure the Iranian population would accept the crown prince as the country's leader. The conversation happened moments after Trump appeared to pump the brakes on an American military intervention, something the president has been threatening for weeks as the Islamic regime has brutally cracked down on widespread protests. He seems very nice, but I don't know how he'd play within his own country, the president said of Pahlavi. And we really aren't up to that point yet. I don't know whether or not his country would accept his leadership and certainly if they would, that would be fine with me. Trump said it would be. It was possible that the government of Iran's Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei could fall amid the demonstrations, though added in truth, anti regime can fall. Whether or not it falls or not, it, whether or not it falls or not, it's going to be an interesting period of time, Trump added. Pahlavi was born into Iran, the son of the US Backed Shamu Ahmed Reza Shah Pahlavi, who Iranians overthrew. The 65 year old Pahlavi, who lives in D.C. suburbs, has played a very vocal role in the protest from abroad. But on the ground, there appears to be a little organized support for the country to be to again be ruled by the monarchy. So I mean that's what he, he.

[Vinnie]

Just, just from me watching him speak and with all due respect, and again, he's not the guy. These people where my mom and dad and my grandmother grandparents are from, where your whole family's from, they don't need a zoom call leader, okay? They need somebody that's going to be there with them on the ground, okay? Reza Pahlavi lives in Washington D.C. he's been there for 47 years and this isn't a knock on him. He has a life, he has kids, they're in school, they have jobs or whatever they're doing. This is a whole different situation. And by the way, just really fast on the Israel thing. We all know the arguments, the debates we've gone into about me and Israel and criticizing all this stuff. Put that to the side. This is an organic revolution. Enough of the. Israel. Put people in the. Just shut up with that noise, okay? Their leader is tweeting stuff that's saying that we will kill the president. Him getting shot in the head. We won't miss. Okay? They're murdering protesters. You know, I saw. Pat, I'm not going to show it. I didn't want to send it to Rob. The IRGC are going into hospitals looking for people that were protesting that are injured, and they're shooting them in the head. I saw that and I saw the bodies and the body bags with the catheters, because they were in that room. Okay? And I'm tired and. And makes a very, very fair point.

[Pat]

Who.

[Vinnie]

Why do we care? We have enough problems going on. We have enough stuff over there. The only reason I say we have to care and is because if we let them put somebody else in that's worse than this guy or another guy that's Islamist or whatever, it's a problem that's going to get worse and get worse and get worse. And I'm not trying to say we have to be the police of the world, but these people are begging for help. And if you don't mind, Pat, this got me emotional. I'll probably not even be able to go through it. I want to play a phone call that was recorded of, I think, an American Iranian girl from here. She. Her mother finally calls her and gets a hold of her. She can't even speak freely because of the, The, The. The. The regime is surveilling them. This is. Just tell me this doesn't hurt you.

[Adam]

Go ahead, Rob.

[Vinnie]

Watch this. They're shooting people with machine guns.

[Tom]

Don't cry.

[Vinnie]

We're okay. I called you 15 times. We're okay. Can you hear me? Don't cry. They killed 12,000 people. They massacred all of. Yeah, we ran away. Can't talk on the phone. The phones are controlled. It's a very bad situation. And she's crying. Stop. She's bullying. This goes on. They've killed so many. She's in her 70s. She goes. She's weak. She can't do anything. So for people to sit there and try to blame everybody else. The people have done it organically. God bless them. We, I hope for them, this is where we have to help. We have to help him. With all due respect, Reza. Nice guy. You're the first one that called him a nice, sweet guy. Trump always talks off the. He doesn't bs. He doesn't sugarcoat. The moment he was asked, he goes, yeah, no, he's not the guy. He knows. He's not the guy, Pat. He knows.

[Ann Coulter]

You know, your discussion of Mosaddegh and Shah, the Shah remind me of why I think we should not be getting involved. And yes, it would be great if the people overthrew and, you know, fixed it themselves. I don't think they will. I think most of the world is not fit for democracy. This Mossadegh was a ridiculous clown. He had to be taken out. He was taken out by the CIA, and the CIA and the United States supported the Shah. Everything was great then. As long as we're in stalling puppets around the world, things are gonna go great. You don't wanna let them vote. And especially you don't wanna let them vote now. I mean, I don't think I really wanna lose the Iranians, or Persians, as we call them in Beverly Hills. They're great. They're totally right wing. The most civilized, educated Iranians have left. And it's the same thing with Venezuela. It's the same thing with Cuba. If we're gonna be installing puppet governments and holding them up and we have to protect them, I. Let's start with our hemisphere and see how it goes, and then maybe we can get back. And also, let's also remember that this is all Jimmy Carter's fault.

[Pat]

Are you joking? Are you being serious?

[Ann Coulter]

It is all Jimmy Carter's fault.

[Pat]

I agree. I fully agree with you totally.

[Ann Coulter]

And what was his name? Richard Falk at Princeton, who promised everyone, don't worry, the people will vote for Khomeini. It will be wonderful. The people's revolution. Yeah. There's your Princeton professor for you.

[Pat]

Yeah, I've seen that as well.

[Tom]

Look, we've seen it in our government when a nice guy that should be an ambassador or should be in a think tank becomes President Gerald Ford. Jimmy Carter, you have problems because you need leaders in times of crisis. And this guy happens to be the son of the prior leader. That doesn't make him. That gives him proximity. That doesn't give him the presence, the power, the personality and everything he needs to lead. And I think he appears to be a very nice man. He appears to be, you know, ambassadorial. He's got certain presence. But is he ready to go into this beehive and to do what's necessary to lead it through? It I don't think so. And we can make assessments like that because we saw it happen in our government. I was of age when Jimmy Carter, you know, basically, on these human rights campaigns, in the name of human rights rights ignored warning signs of destability in governments in the name of human rights. And this mess started. We've seen it. And this is not what the world needs. The world needs strength and clarity and leadership. That is probably needs to be protected by the US Government to get the job done. What they need to do.

[Pat]

Adam.

[Adam]

Sir, I don't care one way or another about Reza Pahlavi. I'm not on his team or not on his team, but I am on the side of the Iranian people, no doubt. So when he says this is a war, we have to do, this is not a war, homeboy. This is one side with guns and the other side with cell phones at best.

[Vinnie]

Massacre, it's called.

[Adam]

So that's not a war. That's number one. Number two, as much as I love our friend Ann Coulter, I do care about the other side of the world, and I'll tell you why. I think this is as America first as it gets, supporting the people of Iran because of China. I understand the Monroe Doctrine.

[Ann Coulter]

I care about the Doctrine.

[Adam]

But if Venezuela falls, which is looking very likely, obviously, and if Iran falls, that helps America in monumental ways and destroys China, because where do they get their oil? Venezuela and Iran? So these are moves that, on the surface, I get it. Listen, no more foreign wars. We want to be some sort of isolationist, maybe be a little more pragmatic, but if these moves help bring down China, that would only help America. Last point is this. There's this whole thing of, you know, everyone, Dave Smith, the famous, famous comedian, hilarious, just, you know, worldwide comedian, said, iran is not a threat. Iran is not a threat. Do you remember that tweet, Rob? Do you have that? Well, here's some evidence as to why I sent it to you in a text of why Iran is actually a threat. And we do need to pay attention to the country that has coined the phrase death to America. You have that tweet, Rob, that I sent it to you. So they tried to kill Trump, they tried to kill Secretary Pompeo, they tried to kill John Bolton. Not the worst thing. Not.

[Pat]

By the way, everybody's texting that Twitter is down. Just so you know why he can't pull it up. Yeah, right now Twitter is down.

[Vinnie]

There's evidence.

[Adam]

And what did they just say about Trump? Next time we won't miss.

[Ann Coulter]

They'll Miss.

[Adam]

Did he not say that? Yeah, but the point is, they're threatening our president. And, excuse me, we're one earlobe away from Kamala Harris or Weekend at Biden's being president. So these geopolitical conversations do have ramifications. And when someone who presents himself as a smartest person in the room said something like this, you tend to maybe this guy's got some credibility. And then what happens is our old friend Dave Smith runs into someone infinitely smarter than him named Coleman Hughes, and all of a sudden, Dave's back to being a struggling comedian, not so much a pundit.

[Pat]

Yeah. So by the way, if you want to go back to. Is it showing Twitter's down rap. Yes, Reports are showing that Twitter's on. Can you show that again, the report you had up?

[Tom]

Yes. Hang on one second.

[Pat]

Which one is that?

[Tom]

It's down detector. And it just spiked that right there. It is. Yeah.

[Pat]

So it is down. Reports are coming in, but it's saying it's not fully down. The services appear to be up and running, but as of right now, it's still down. Anyways, go back to the Kalshee part. Go back to the Kalshi part. Rob on. You just had it. Ali Khamenei out as Supreme Leader. A week ago, 75% today down to pretty much, you know, 25, you know, depending on by when. September 1, July 1, April 1, 2026, down. Then if you go to Mohammed Azar Pahlavi, because, you know, this had to be up. Will the United States recognize Reza Pahlavi as a leader of Iran a week ago, 90%.

[Adam]

90%.

[Pat]

Yes, yes, yes. Today, January 8, 28%.

[Adam]

Stop it.

[Pat]

Yes, sir.

[Adam]

May I understand this?

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

A week ago was 90%.

[Pat]

I'm showing you what Kal. She says 97.6% chance was January 8th.

[Adam]

Today is the.

[Pat]

Today is 16.

[Adam]

So one week ago.

[Pat]

One week ago, he went from 98% to 28%.

[Adam]

So he's the Pierre Poliev. He is of Iran.

[Pat]

He is here. Poliev of Iran.

[Tom]

By the way, the last three days, Adam, he spent time with our leaders in Washington.

[Adam]

Can I ask you a very. Yeah, 100%.

[Pat]

What does Tom. What a time.

[Adam]

He said that they spent time with our leaders in Washington.

[Pat]

What does that mean, though, the meanings?

[Adam]

The more and more that people have been around him, they recognize he ain't that dude.

[Pat]

That's what Tom is trying to go. Yeah.

[Adam]

John Kornacki.

[Pat]

Go ahead, Adam.

[Adam]

Why do you think that is, Pat? Sincerely, the more you spend time around him. Let me ask you a question.

[Pat]

Let me ask.

[Ann Coulter]

You fell before that?

[Pat]

Yeah. Let me, let me ask you a question, though. Here's, here's a question. Let's just say do you think for Iran to go through their revolution, a country that any day anybody complains about the second Amendment, if Iran had second amendment. None of this stuff is happening right now, by the way. If Iran has second amendment, if the Iranian people could defend themselves, you think the cops going out there with a shotgun shooting people for no. Like you realize in America if something like that, you know who'll be the first one coming out? Mongols, Hell's Angels, Biker gangs. They're going to come out. So what are you doing? Do you remember that one time, I think, I think the, the George Floyd, if I'm not mistaken, riots was going on and they decided to go to Huntington beach, if I'm not mistaken.

[Tom]

That is correct.

[Pat]

The biker gangs rolled up and said, come on, come through us. And they're like, change of plans. We're leaving this place. We're going to go to different places. Second amendment in America. Phenomenal. Every single day. You should be thankful the fact that we have that on America. Was this at rob when they were trying to do it?

[Vinnie]

Yep.

[Pat]

Yeah. Protests. When all of a sudden like, no, you're not going to come through here. Forget about the cops. The micro folks showed up and like, yeah, we'll skip today's deal of doing anything with these guys. So but let me go back to this. To have a revolution happen in a country like Iran against a regime like IRGC Islamic Revolutionary Guard, in a society where it's like the supreme leader, the phrase they use, their supreme leader, their supreme American journalists say their supreme leader, their supreme leader, what's his name is Khamenei. It's not your supreme leader, somebody else. That's their supreme leader. Right. Khamenei, what do you think you're going to need to do if you're in America as an outsider, actually say you are part of Trump's advisors and somebody brings a guy in who's sitting right in front of us right now. Interviewing to be the leader of Iran, to go through the transition, what five questions do you have for him if you want to support him?

[Adam]

What five Are you moving to Iran?

[Vinnie]

You're willing to move to Iran?

[Pat]

So let's just say that's one. And he says of course, but he's been here for 48 years to put.

[Adam]

Your life on the line and die for this cause.

[Pat]

Is that really the Real question. That's the real question.

[Ann Coulter]

I will support you.

[Pat]

Say that again.

[Ann Coulter]

What percentage of people support.

[Pat]

What percentage?

[Vinnie]

He says to you in the population.

[Ann Coulter]

Not of Beverly Hills, he says to.

[Pat]

You, 80% in Iran, I don't believe we run the. Okay, so you don't believe it. What's your next question?

[Adam]

Do you think Iran wants a monarchy or a democracy?

[Pat]

Let's let the people decide. Because that's the answer he's given to everybody. That's not our business. That's the people's business. Well, that's what he's saying.

[Vinnie]

Like, if I was them, I want leverage. And like, hey, listen, you're going to listen to what we say.

[Pat]

What are the questions do you have? Like, what is the most important question that you have?

[Adam]

What makes you a great leader?

[Pat]

Okay, so. So let me, let me say before he walked in, we're sitting together here, and here's what we're saying. We made a decision. Hey, guys, if we like this guy, at what level do we want to intervene? Okay, you're J.D. vance. You say, listen, no more than what we did with Venezuela. I don't want troops on the ground staying there. Iraq, 20 years, $3 trillion. Marco Rubio says, well, it depends on what we're gonna get in return. Okay. Cause let's just say Marco Rubio is a little bit more of a neocon and he's open to the idea and he's having a conversation. But let's just say the five of us, that's an odd number, which is good. Three, Two. Three people are going to say, okay. We say, look, if it's a little bit of intervention, I'm open to it, but full on, I want to interview this guy to see if we can get the job done with little bit of intervention or do we need to do everything for him? So if that's the mindset that we're going in with, what's the most important question to ask? Whose support does he need? Whose support does he need? Not just the people who also support. Do you need the military? The military, right. So I'm going to ask you and say, okay, how many people from the military flipping and supporting you? Show me how many of them. So you know what I would do if, if you're running, like, if you really, really, really want to do something, why don't we see how many Iranian military have turned in to come supporter you. And by the way, you know how it starts by pockets, you get tabriz, you get, you know, Abadan, you get smaller, you don't go straight to Tehran. You start from the outside and you come fully inside because there are a lot of people that are on the verse, but they don't want to be the first. You ever seen that one? TEDx, TED talks, where the guy shows and says, here's the guy that just goes out and he starts dancing like this. And it's the most embarrassing dance. Have you seen this video? You ever seen this video or no. Where the guy's just dancing like a horrible dancing and everyone's looking at him, but he goes for five seconds and they're thinking he's gonna stop. He goes for 20 seconds and they're thinking he's gonna stop. Thirty seconds later, another guy goes in and he starts. He doesn't know what he's doing. He's just kind of going like this. He says, 20 seconds after the second guy, couple hundred people are dancing with him and he says, the most important person is the first true believer in you that is willing to step up. Who has stood up from the military unit and said, we're all with Reza Pahlavi. Who? That's the question I'm going to be asking Tom. I'm going to ask the question, has the military from Iran flipped to support this man? What else would you ask him? Because I think that's really how this works. You know, yesterday, two days ago, we're interviewing a guy that wants to be the general manager of Bay David Consulting. And we have some finalists, but he's the final guy he interviews with Tom Paul, he interviews with Casey, a couple other people he interviews. But then he comes with me and RJ and then we go to dinner with them to introduce him to the BDC guys. BDC guys are interviewing with them. What do you think we're asking afterwards? What questions are you asking?

[Vinnie]

How do you guys feel? Do you believe who he says he is? Is he qualified for the job? Do you think he's going to be long term? There's a bunch of stuff.

[Pat]

I mean, if this all of a sudden happened to the Iranian people who are saying Trump is Jimmy Carter 2.0, maybe instead of saying, is Trump Jimmy Carter 2.0? Jimmy Carter's case was there was already a stable guy in Iran named Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi that had figured everything out. This was a guy that was not afraid of calling people out. He stood his ground. He gave his opinion in this scenario. This is not the same case as Jimmy Carter 2.0 because Iran doesn't have a leader. During Carter, there was a definite Leader called Mohammed Hazar Shah Pahlavi. Right now there's not a definite leader. If there was, they would have easily said yes. So I said this a week ago. The. God forbid you call out anything with Reza Pahlavi's community. I have no idea. By the way, for a guy who's a massive fan of Reza Pahlavi, okay, The family. For a guy that collects everything, I can get my hands. If you want to give me a nice gift, get me an old coin, gold of Reza Pahlavi. Get me old magazines. Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi. I have all those collections in my safe in different places that I. That I hold on to. But God forbid you say something and criticize them, even just a little bit. They shiver. How dare you. Reza Pahlavi, to them is not a candidate. To them, it's their Jesus. Yes, it's their Jesus. It's their Prophet Muhammad. God forbid you criticize and say anything about him. Now, by the way, the one thing on the opposite side. So to me, I said this last week about Muhammad. If you don't pull it off, you're done. I said this a week ago. And the community lost their. And they came. Who the hell do you think you are? All this other stuff, week later, here's where you are. So guess, what does it mean? It's done.

[Adam]

Done.

[Pat]

It's very close to being done. Very close to being done. Why? Because somebody couldn't close the deal. Because somebody couldn't close the deal. Guess what? Diplomacy. You know what? Well, no, it's Elon Musk's fault. It's Trump's fault. It's your fault. No, it's called be a flipping diplomat. It's called go build those relationship. It's called sit back down and realize how terrible you are. I'll build them relationships with individuals and then go. I have to talk to those people. You know who Trump called two days ago about the 10% credit card interest rate. She was shell shocked. Who?

[Adam]

Elizabeth Warren.

[Vinnie]

Yeah. Yeah, that's right.

[Pat]

Elizabeth Warren's being.

[Adam]

Pick up the phone.

[Pat]

Elizabeth Warren is being interviewed and they're saying, did Trump really call you? Yes. How did you feel about it? I'm not going to lie. I was very surprised that he called me and asked me, what do you think about the 10%? What is that called? That's called diplomacy. So, you know, I hope you guys hold him accountable because he does play very important role. And to Reza Pahlavi's credit, he did an interview yesterday, which, by the way, it's the best one he's done. It's the best one he's done. I'm trying to see who it was with. I watched it. He did a phenomenal job with this interview. I liked his resolve. I liked how he handled himself in this interview. I wish I could find it. There's so many of them he's doing right now, but it was probably the best one that he did. And I'm not going to stop challenging him. I'd like to host a podcast with bringing different people from the Iranian side to talk to a bunch of different guys that have different opinions. And we'll be doing that here soon. But look to the Iranian people. Breaks my heart because my only first cousin in the world. My only first cousin and I only have one first cousin. My dad had two brothers and a sister. Between the three, they had zero kids and they all lived past their 60s. It's not like they didn't have a chance. So two brothers and a sister, zero kids. So I got no cousins from my dad's side, my mom's side, she only had one sibling. Him and I were very close back in the days. Robert. And he has one son. I only have one first cousin. You know, my one first cousin lives in Iran. That's where he's at. My only first cousin lives in Iran. So we have family there, we have friends there, we have a lot of people there. And I really wanted to see this being able to be pulled off. But unfortunately this is. The more and more this dies down, you know, and it gets quieter and quieter and the momentum goes away. People, families have to go take their kids back and go to school and go back to their jobs and they realize they had the greatest two week run. They got so close. Does that mean Trump's not going to do an attack like he did with Gassam Soleimani? No. Does that mean people can't get killed? Remember how Israel works. Here's how Israel works. Israel is also, and Trump is also very much of a. Let's make a story up. Netanyahu told them that you shouldn't attack and all this other stuff. Oh, my God. NETanyahu controls Trump. Three days later, boom. Seven leaders in Iran get killed.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Just also appreciate the president's unpredictability of what he's capable of doing. But number one rule, when that man came into interview with Witkoff, interview with Lindsey Graham, and he's leaving, what set of questions you're asking are these guys walking out, calling Trump, saying, I think he's the guy. Let's roll. He's going to get it done. You need to meet with him. That didn't happen. Why not? Because if you would have met with them, what would you have told me? Tom, if you were impressed with a candidate, say you work for President Trump, say you met with Reza Pahlavi, say you were blown away, say your name is Witkoff. What advice would you give me if I'm Trump?

[Tom]

I think we can support this guy because he can pull the coalition together and he's got the support of the military. He'll need some of our intervention, some of our support, but I think he's, his arms are long enough to pull the coalition together.

[Pat]

If you believed in him, how quickly would you say, I should meet with him?

[Tom]

Mr. President, I think we should meet with him immediately. Now that he's met with all of us and we've got our, our stuff in order, I think we need to make the plan.

[Pat]

Does that sound logical?

[Vinnie]

Yes.

[Pat]

And it didn't happen. So why didn't happen?

[Tom]

By the way, I'll change the names. And listen to this. You know who General Ver is? Ver very famous man in history. General Ver was the evil general henchman for Ferdinand Marcos. And General Ver pledged that he would support Marcos. So that's when the CIA said, OK, Marcos is our guy. Because for 20 years General Ver supported Marcos in the Philippines and that's what kept the peace in the Philippines. And the only reason that we selected Ferdinand Marcos, the CIA was because he had the support of General Ver. So this has happened before in history where the, for the, the U.S. makes sure that that leader can carry the coalition. And that's exactly what we have here.

[Pat]

In each final thought.

[Adam]

I just want to thank you for your breakdown because it helped me come to this conclusion. Reza Pahlavi is the opposite of Donald Trump. Let me explain. You talk about being battle tested. We have a one woman on this panel today who predicted in 2015 Donald Trump would be the president United States. But she did that when it was inconvenient and he was 1% chance. But what did Trump do? Get up on that stage and debate how many people?

[Pat]

Everybody?

[Adam]

20 different people. Boom. Jeb Bush. Boom. Marco Rubio. Boom. Boom. Scott Walker. Bing, bing, bing. And he won it because in America, you know, we've been so focused on dei, we still don't forget, this is still a meritocracy. And Trump showed up and said, I'm that dude. And he took out Hillary Clinton. The final point is here. Just because your Father was great doesn't mean that you're going to be great. Is Michael Jordan's son in the NBA? No. Is Magic Johnson's son in the NBA? No. He's wearing a dress somewhere. Okay. Did Bill Clinton's wife become president? No. Is Barack Obama's wife wife becoming president? No. So there's a meritocracy is what America is founded on this monarchy, Iran, if that's what you're looking for. But in America, that's not what we believe in.

[Pat]

Yeah. If you have any thoughts, I'll give it to you. If not, we'll go to the next story.

[Ann Coulter]

Let's go to the next story.

[Vinnie]

She's dying to talk more about Iran.

[Pat]

Sounds good. Fair enough. All right, let's go to the next story. So this story I want to get to is cartoonist Dilbert final message before his death to his ex wife. By the way, have you guys seen this? To his ex wife. And by the way, while this happened. Okay, should I show what journalist Victoria Edel says or should I say that afterwards? Let's play the clip first. Rob, play the clip of what the ex wife is saying with a letter that he wrote. Rob, if you got it, pull it up. Very emotional. I. I had to retweet it. I got this from Danny Canal. Send it to me. Danny Canal. Send it to me. Shout out to Danny. Watch this clip here. Go for it, everyone.

[Ann Coulter]

Unfortunately, this isn't good news. Of course he waited till just before the show started, but he's not with us, right anymore. I'm gonna try to get through this. He has a final message that he wanted to say, so I'm going to.

[Pat]

Try to read it.

[Ann Coulter]

Trying to be strong. If you are reading this, things did not go well for me. I have a few things to say before I go. My body fell before my brain. I am of sound mind as I write this. January 1, 2026. If you wonder about any of my choices for my estate or anything else, please know I'm free of any coercion or inappropriate influence of any sort. I promise. Next. Many of my Christian friends have asked me to find Jesus before I go. I'm not a believer, but I have to admit the risk reward calculation for doing so looks so attractive to me. So here I go. I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and look forward to spending an eternity with him. The part about me not being a believer should be quickly resolved. If I wake up in heaven, I won't need any more convincing than that. I hope I'm still Qualified for entry. With your permission, I'd like to explain my life. For the first part of my life I was focused on making myself a worthy husband and parent as I find as a way to find meaning. That worked. But marriages don't always last forever.

[Pat]

You can pause it right there, you can pause it right there. And it goes on. It's a six minute clip. If you haven't seen it, I recommend you watching it. So in the letter he accepts Jesus Christ. His ex wife is reading it, very sentimental. And then you get this story. Journalist Victoria Edel faces backlash over Scott Adams obituary. Disgraceful hit piece. Scott Adams disgraced Dilbert creator dies at 68 years old. Okay, Vinny, I'm gonna come to you with this story because I know you got a lot of thoughts on this. Yeah. How do you react to this, Vinny?

[Vinnie]

Well, I mean a, you know, God rest his soul. I think, you know, a couple people saw the. But I'm saying that they, when she read the letter, very emotional. If you weren't really, really paying attention you would see, you know, this was somebody and I, I knew me and you were gonna get into this conversation. So Adam, he's, he's, this is his last letter as he's dying and he's saying, and I'll read it quick next. Many of my Christian friends have asked me to find Jesus before I go. I'm not a believer, but I have to admit the risk reward calculation for doing so looks attractive. So here I go. I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. I'm full and I look forward to spending my eternity with him. The part about me not being a believer should be quickly resolved. If I wake up in heaven, I won't need any more convincing than that. I hope I'm still qualified for entry. As funny and as cool as it seems, it's kind of making a mockery of Christianity because you know, when we talked about Adam, you always ask the question, Vinnie, you mean a person could be a murderer? In the last moment he says I'm sorry and he goes to heaven. The same thing with the, the murderers that was on the cross with Jesus, but that one of them actually asked for forgiveness and was truly meant it and got Jesus said that you're going to be with me in paradise. This to me is like a, well, last ditch effort. Well, if it's true, then let's do it. I, I think, I hope to God, Adam, that after this funny moment that he had, he really did have a moment where he seriously stopped and said, Jesus or somebody spoke to him, a pastor, a priest, and actually gave it to him. And actually, he was honest, because this right here is what you talk about, that insurance policy. Oh, I'm gonna die. Well, all right. I believe in Jesus. That's not how it works. That's not how it works in this situation. I will. However, Patrick, there was a video that he made that hit me so hard, I sent it to Rob and even. Rob. Rob, you showed this to your son?

[Tom]

Yeah, I sent it to him.

[Vinnie]

It is such a. It is such an awesome thing, guys. It's about laziness. I don't know if you. Have you seen this? No, it's about laziness. And it's. He says that it's the habit of thinking about the effort instead of thinking about the outcome. I have Rob playing it at 1.5, so it's a little bit fast, but look at how. Look at how amazing this is. This completely changed my thinking. Go ahead, Rob. What if.

[Pat]

What if laziness is a habit of thinking about the cost of things or the effort instead of thinking about the payoff? I'm gonna say it again. Get a few more heads to explode.

[Vinnie]

What if laziness is.

[Pat]

Oh, is that on Twitter or. If it is, it's going to keep.

[Vinnie]

Okay, so he says you can reverse laziness by simply developing a habit of thinking more about, like, for instance, the delicious food that you're gonna eat instead of, like, the effort that it takes to do it. Like he said, like, with kids, he goes, why do people have three or four kids? If people sat there and they're like, oh, man, having the kid is the worst. You always hear them saying, I'm gonna have more kids, because it's. You're. You're focusing on the. The in between instead of what you're gonna. Is this a. Rob the payoff? Yeah, the payoff, which is actually pretty freaking awesome. So that's a great thing that he had, but I'm gonna play it.

[Pat]

I think we got a few more heads to explode.

[Vinnie]

What if laziness is nothing but a.

[Pat]

Habit of thinking about the effort instead of thinking about the outcome? What if you could reverse laziness by simply developing a habit of thinking more about the.

[Vinnie]

Let's say, the delicious food that you.

[Pat]

Would like to enjoy instead of how long it would take you to get up and go get it? But the real question is, if you were to test this at home and try to see if you can think.

[Vinnie]

More about the good outcome and less.

[Pat]

About the work, would you get it done. Why is it that people have a second child?

[Vinnie]

Why does a woman who goes through.

[Pat]

This awful, awful childbirth have a second child? Don't they always say the same thing? If I remembered how bad this was.

[Vinnie]

I wouldn't do it again.

[Pat]

Right? So the not thinking about the effort is vital to actually the survival of humanity. If we focused on how hard it was to have a baby, you just wouldn't do it, or you do too little of it. But if you focus on how awesome.

[Vinnie]

It would be to have a family.

[Pat]

Well, there you go. You're gonna go through the pain because you've already committed. Am I ambitious, or do I simply have a thinking habit which produces dopamine? Because I'm thinking about the positive outcome, and is the dopamine the thing that gets me up and moving? And when you're observing me, you say, how the hell do you get so much done? And how do I do it? I think it's just this. I think it's just this. When I think of all the things I do, I think about them in terms of their benefits.

[Vinnie]

And I think in regard to the People magazine girl, the fact that O.J. simpson died, okay, O.J. simpson, a murderer died. And their. Their headline was, O.J. simpson dead at 76 from cancer. Family announces. That's it right there. But when Scott Adams dies because he was, you know, Trump supporter, look what they write. Scott Adams, disgraced Dilbert creator, dies at 68. A murderer gets the nice one, but a guy that, like Trump, gets a disgrace. This is the day that he died. They write that.

[Pat]

So that just goes to show you. Where are you at with the story?

[Ann Coulter]

Well, Vinnie just made me feel very guilty because I meant to send Scott Adams, my minister, redeemer.com, it would convince anyone because I sort of agree with you. I hope you really believed it. But just taking Pascal's Wager, that isn't gonna do it. And I know Tim Keller would have convinced him, and suddenly he was dead. And I hadn't sent it yet, so I'm feeling very bad about that. This reminds me, I was just thinking about this the other day, which is why, oh, my gosh, Twitter being down is so much more important to me than Iran. Twitter is so important for the truth, getting out there, including on immigration like you were talking about. And all the MSM is showing us is, oh, the poor illegal immigrant.

[Vinnie]

Whoa.

[Ann Coulter]

Those aren't the ones you see on. Those aren't the videos you see on Twitter. And it wasn't just that one. I Mean, there was some horrible terrorist that. Where the headline was, you know, honored. Honored Islamic scholar. Da.

[Adam]

I just sent that to random. Okay, yeah, talk about that.

[Ann Coulter]

Yes, but you see, but those weren't the only ones. The contrast all over Twitter. So thank God for Twitter. And I had. I interviewed Scott Adams on. On my substack. And. And he. He was really interesting, and it was a lot of fun. And. And the racist thing was unfair. It was, I think, a clumsy joke, in my opinion. But if you'll remember what it was, there was just this poll that turned out to be a BS poll saying that a majority of black people said that it's not okay to be white. So it was a BS poll, but he read it, he believed it. He says, therefore black people are racist, and therefore we should stay the hell away from black people. It's one of those things where you can't. Some things you just should stay away from making jokes about. So it was a clumsy joke, but. Oh, my gosh, his publisher canceled him. His syndicate, my former syndicate, canceled him. He got canceled every place. And to be putting that in the. In the obituaries. Oh, come on. Oh, here it is. There.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Well, yeah, that's why you always need to check the source and say, is this a credible source? A biased source? Are they far left? Are they far right? Which one is it? So the cartoonist from Dilbert dies, and he's this bad dude and this controversial guy, but the austere leader of isis, you know, Jihad All Baghdadi, whatever his name was. What a guy. So just check your source. There it is. Abu Al Bakar Al Baghdadi, the austere religious scholar, austere, at the helm of Islamic state, dies at 48. What a guy.

[Vinnie]

What's this?

[Adam]

It's a cartoonist from Dilbert, Mr. Adams over here, disgraced.

[Tom]

So that died suddenly at 48.

[Adam]

The other thing I'll say is racist is the most overused term. I don't know. I'm not gonna judge him right now. He does make a great point about the kids. You know, you have one kid and you go back for two. I was hanging out with a lady last night, a friend. She has 11 kids.

[Vinnie]

Damn.

[Adam]

And she's trying to convince my girl, like, go for it.

[Vinnie]

Come on.

[Adam]

I'm gonna do number 12. If you do number one. I'm like, this lady just wants a baker dozen. I don't know if she's looking for a football team. 11 kids. The last point is this. We're on the same page here. This is my concern. And he's a good guy. And I talk about bad people at the last second. Hail Mary accepting Jesus. This to me was a risk reward calculation.

[Vinnie]

That's not how it works.

[Adam]

Not pure.

[Vinnie]

100 in your heart. 100.

[Adam]

So I've been Jewish my whole life. It's on my deathbed.

[Vinnie]

It's like Jesus, because you know, who knows your heart?

[Pat]

Jesus.

[Vinnie]

He knows. And there's no way to get to the Father except through the Son. Okay. And just to go back really, really fast, do you guys remember when Ghassam Soleimani was killed? New York Times published an op ed. They called him a freedom fighter. Cnn, npr, they called him hero to supporters and a popular figure in Iran. It's a freaking joke. It is a joke. And then I didn't know that about you. That's so. That's so. I, I understand the, the feeling that you didn't message him, but just hoping that we could pray that he did have a moment where maybe the Holy Spirit was like, hey, you have this opportunity. I just, I hope and I pray that he came to it right there. Because the. A word in a letter that's not going to come.

[Tom]

And Adam Ann made the point about Pascal's Wager. You hope that none of your friends, you know, are simply making Pascal's wager, and they think it's like this little fire alarm at the last moment, that it's a genuine. And I have deep respect for Tim Keller, and I believe that anybody that would encounter at a moment facing their own mortality, Tim's writings, I believe that they, they would be compelled. I think that's what you were saying. I agree with that. Tim's tremendous, you know, and I just think the dialogue has become so heated and so nasty. You know, as I've often said, once upon a time, I used to think that liberals think I'm evil when I just thought liberals were wrong. Right. And. But I think it's become much deeper and worse than that. I mean, it goes on both sides.

[Ann Coulter]

Yeah. I think they're evil.

[Tom]

Yeah. Well, so do I. Certainly think even Matt Judge. When O.J. died, as I recall, the Drudge Report took heat because the headline they carried was Cancer murders. OJ Was the. I believe was the.

[Ann Coulter]

Wait who had that headline. That's hilarious.

[Tom]

Yeah. If you go back, the Drudge Report took heat for it.

[Ann Coulter]

That's funny.

[Tom]

It was cancer murders O.J.

[Ann Coulter]

That'S really funny.

[Adam]

Holder's got a very interesting sense of humor.

[Vinnie]

If that's not that and you came up with it. Tom, I Think it's hilarious?

[Tom]

No, no, it was just cancer.

[Adam]

1 OJ 0.

[Pat]

Okay, let's go to the next story time. Next story I want to get to is this. This one story, which so curious to know what you guys gonna say about this. Oprah Winfrey makes controversial claim that overeating doesn't cause obesity. It's not her fault.

[Tom]

Okay? The calories, not her fault.

[Pat]

It's. It's a beautiful commercial for GLP1.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Is what it is. I mean, it's really. That's what it is. Rob, if you want to play the clip, go for it.

[Ann Coulter]

All these years, I thought I was overeating.

[Adam]

I was standing there with all the.

[Vinnie]

Food noise, what I ate, what I should eat, how many calories was that?

[Ann Coulter]

How long is it gonna take? I thought that that was because of me and my fault. Now I understand that if you carry the obesity gene, if that is what you have, that is what makes you overeat. You don't overeat and become obese. Obesity causes you to overeat. Obesity causes you to have all of that food noise. And what the GLP1s have done for me, and I know a number of other people is to quiet that noise.

[Pat]

What do you think about when you try to quiet that noise? What do you think about what she's saying here?

[Ann Coulter]

Well, I probably shouldn't say this because I'll get a lot of people mad at me, but I so want these GLP drugs not to work. It makes me so angry that people are not just eating right and exercising. It's unfair. They're just gonna take a pill. No, of course overeating causes obesity.

[Vinnie]

Like it, it. It drives me crazy. Well, first of all, like, what a groundbreaking, like, revelation that she had. I, I think it's up there with, with Einstein discovering relativity. She like her saying that obesity.

[Adam]

You.

[Vinnie]

Don'T overeat and become obese. Obesity causes you to overeat.

[Pat]

Really?

[Vinnie]

And it's funny that she's done a complete 180, mind you. She. She stepped down from Weight Watchers Board, I believe, in 2024 to promote the GLP1 drugs. And now she's claiming that obesity is driven by genetics and largely out of control. It's convenient. That makes GLP1 her solution. And I'm curious to see who she's going to come out and back. And by the way, horrible outfit choice. Can we, can we dress? She's wearing a men's suit. Has she crossed over? Rob?

[Adam]

Did you see that?

[Ann Coulter]

I do think she looks very Stylish. I mean, against what she. I don't.

[Vinnie]

What is she wearing? I don't get.

[Adam]

Oprah can do whatever she wants to do.

[Pat]

She's 71.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Ann Coulter]

And by the way, she's looking good for 71. Wow.

[Vinnie]

But I don't. Because I don't know if Twitter is going to work. RFK tweeted and put, dear Oprah, yes, you were overeating for years, and it wasn't some mystical obesity gene puppeteering your fork. It was your choice. There's no way he swear to you he did this.

[Adam]

Stop.

[Vinnie]

Is this a parody account? No, this is RFK right there. That's it.

[Tom]

Right.

[Vinnie]

There he goes. It was your choices. Stop selling surrender as science. Our kids deserve the truth that real changes start with personal accountability, not excuses. Make America healthy again.

[Ann Coulter]

You know, if I could say one other thing about the GLP drugs. Contrary to all of the ads for it, more than half of people go off it within six months because it causes so many digestive issues and problems. So it. It may not be working quite as.

[Vinnie]

Well as all the side. All the side effects were like, bad breath, your butt is gone.

[Tom]

Vomiting.

[Vinnie]

Apparently it was. Something was happening. Positively.

[Pat]

But.

[Vinnie]

And again, it's getting everybody away from putting.

[Pat]

Can't say something like that.

[Vinnie]

What did you just say?

[Pat]

It does something positive.

[Vinnie]

It does something for men.

[Pat]

78 people just placed an order right now.

[Adam]

What does it do for me?

[Vinnie]

I thought I saw a report that said that.

[Ann Coulter]

That's just.

[Vinnie]

The OIC was.

[Ann Coulter]

They say it does everything.

[Adam]

Viagra, buddy.

[Vinnie]

No, it wasn't.

[Ann Coulter]

No, the New York Times wrote about that.

[Pat]

The rest of you, down.

[Vinnie]

Oh, that's what it is. Okay. OIC males are reporting. Surprising. But she makes a good point.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

When you're.

[Adam]

When you're £300, you go down to 180, you're going to look a little.

[Tom]

Adam.

[Vinnie]

Adam.

[Pat]

There you are For a while. How you been?

[Ann Coulter]

Hey, guy.

[Pat]

I'm with.

[Adam]

I'm with not Olympic. An and I are going to agree for. For. For a change today, because I was talking to a friend. He's going to see this clip. He's going to freak out. And I said, he. He took oic, my buddy, and he said, oh, man. I started having all these problems. My shoulder. I couldn't. I couldn't, like, lift my hand. I said, oh, interesting. So these shortcuts are actually. There's some side effects of this. I said, what you don't earn, you don't keep, you know, and they say with like. And like, I Tell this to only fans, girls. When I. When I used to interact with them, not anymore, because I'm the man of the Lord. I said, easy money is going to come with hard lessons, and you're gonna, you know, get rich quick. I'd rather build wealth slow. So all these people that are taking these shortcuts, you might end up with some Ozempic penis or whatever you want to call it. But you need to build the habits that get you there. It's the same thing with winning the lottery. You win $100 million, the average lottery winner is broke within three years because you don't have the framework and the habits to keep the money. So it's the same thing with Ozempic. You're £300, and now you're 180. Two years from now, you're going to be £300, by the way. You know who's going to agree with this? Oprah. Because her thing was a yo, yo. With her weight. She's 250, then she's 1,120, then she's 300. How many? The whole story with Oprah. So to anyone out there who thinks that shortcuts is the way that's not gonna work.

[Pat]

Such a lazy assessment. Yep. To say something like that, I. I went on three different AI. What do you call it, like the chat, gbts and ice. Is there such a thing at obesity gene? And it says the answer is not one gene. Obesity is influenced and, you know, each was small, focused on, vulnerable. Okay. Think of it as jeans load the gun, environment pulls the trigger. You know what it made me think about?

[Adam]

No.

[Pat]

I had a guy. You hear me? Every once in a while, I quote this guy, I had this guy on him, Jim Clemente. Can you pull this guy up? He's a retired FBI survivor. You know what his job was? He was the first person that would sit with the person that just killed someone.

[Adam]

Yeah, of course.

[Pat]

You just killed your spouse. I'm the first one that interviews.

[Vinnie]

Wow.

[Pat]

That was his job. Right. And the question was asked, you know, what causes somebody to be a killer? And he said this. He says, genetics loads the gun. Personality and psychology aims the gun. Experiences pull the trigger.

[Adam]

Wow.

[Pat]

So apply that to this. Okay. Maybe genetics loads the mouth.

[Vinnie]

Yes.

[Pat]

Okay. But personality and psychology, Oprah, is what aims the food here. And you kept doing this.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Okay.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Pat]

And then experiences. You're sitting around up, everybody's eating pizza, cheesecake, cake. Let me have one as well. Let me have one as well. So this lazy, always deflecting responsibility on why you look the way you do. Oh, my God, just stop it already.

[Adam]

What cartman used to say on south park, he's like, I'm not fat. I'm just big boned.

[Vinnie]

It's like, no, okay.

[Adam]

You fat dude.

[Vinnie]

Yeah, you need a mouth goalie. That's what she needs.

[Adam]

There it is, this thing right here. I'm not fat. I'm big bone. That's what your mom said, buddy.

[Pat]

As we're going through this logic, let's go through this next one. Josh hawley is asking a doctor a very basic question, folks. By the way, if you're in a good mood right now, you're going to be in a bad mood. In 90 seconds, this doctor is going to annoy the hell out of you. In 90 seconds, Josh Hawley is trying to get the answer to one question, can men get pregnant? He has to ask it 11 times. Go ahead. Said a moment ago that science and evidence should control, not politics.

[Vinnie]

So let's just test that proposition.

[Pat]

Can men get pregnant?

[Ann Coulter]

I take care of people with many.

[Tom]

Identities, but can men get pregnant?

[Ann Coulter]

Women that can get pregnant, I do take care of people that don't identify as women.

[Pat]

Can men get pregnant?

[Ann Coulter]

3. Again, as I'm saying, let me just.

[Pat]

Remind you, you testified to a moment ago, science and evidence should control, not politics.

[Ann Coulter]

So should.

[Pat]

Can men get pregnant? You're a doctor.

[Ann Coulter]

Science and evidence should guide medicine.

[Pat]

Do science and evidence tell us that men can get pregnant? Biological men, can they get pregnant?

[Tom]

I also think yes.

[Vinnie]

No questions like this are a political tool.

[Pat]

No.

[Vinnie]

Yes. No questions are about the truth.

[Pat]

Doctor, let's not make a mockery of this proceeding. This is about science and evidence. And I'm asking you, you know, the United states supreme court just heard arguments.

[Vinnie]

Yesterday at great length on this question.

[Pat]

This is not a hypothetical question. This is not theoretical. It affects real people in their real lives. And you're here as an expert, called by the other side as an expert, and you've been telling us that you follow, right?

[Vinnie]

You're a doctor and you follow the.

[Ann Coulter]

Science and the evidence.

[Pat]

So I just want to know, based on the science, can men get pregnant? 7.

[Ann Coulter]

That's a yes or no question.

[Pat]

It really is.

[Tom]

I think.

[Pat]

I think you're trying to reduce the.

[Vinnie]

Complexity of a lot.

[Pat]

I'm not.

[Ann Coulter]

I'm trying to get.

[Pat]

It's not complex.

[Ann Coulter]

I'm trying to get to an answer.

[Pat]

And I'm trying to test, frankly, your veracity.

[Vinnie]

Great work as a medical professional and as a scientist.

[Pat]

You're starting to think he can get pregnant.

[Ann Coulter]

Also conflating.

[Pat]

Maybe I can get pregnant. No, I'm not conflating male and female, they're two different things. There's biological men and there's biological women.

[Ann Coulter]

And I want to know, can men get pregnant? What you were talking about is she cannot.

[Pat]

You're not going to answer my question?

[Tom]

Biological males.

[Vinnie]

This isn't hard.

[Pat]

Doctor, can men get pregnant? Yes or no?

[Vinnie]

I would be more than happy to have a conversation with you.

[Pat]

That is, I'd be more than happy to have a conversation with you.

[Adam]

This is the modern left and pushing.

[Pat]

I'm not trying to be polarizing.

[Vinnie]

I'm trying to ask.

[Pat]

I think it is extraordinary that we are here in.

[Vinnie]

Been hearing about science and about women.

[Pat]

And for the record, it's women who get pregnant, not men.

[Adam]

No, it's birthing people.

[Vinnie]

And going back. Okay, this is okay. Every time we think we've, we've gone past this, we come all the way back. And going off of what she said about this party, this ideology, this leftist being evil. Guys, this is when you can't differentiate male or female and you're pushing it out there and you are a doctor. When you are pushing surgery and transitioning to children, when you're pushing for violence, for stuff to happen, all this stuff equates to a party of evil. And let's. Okay, yes, there's Republicans, neocons at war. Yeah, they're evil as well. But this party has nothing positive to stand on. And then I said this a month ago, name me one. I know that there's Christian Democrats. Name me one. One that's openly out there saying, hey, as a Christian, this is wrong. Kids can't do this. Abortion. 73 million abortions a year worldwide. It's wrong. We shouldn't be murdering these children. Where is the one Christian voice that's up standing up for this freaking nonsense? Where? Where is it?

[Adam]

Where are they?

[Ann Coulter]

There's got to be some.

[Vinnie]

Where's one? I'm saying. Have you heard of vocally? This is preposterous. You're sitting in Congress, mind you, this isn't a conversation at a hookah bar or a cigar lounge and you just. Nah, well, I want to debate. You're in front of Congress, you're in front of the world, and you cannot answer a simple yes or no. If men could get pregnant, they can't. End of story. Move on. So my question is to you, and why is she so defiant? What is making her stick to her guns, so to speak, in this situation?

[Ann Coulter]

I am Baffled at how the Democrats are absolutely sticking with the transgender thing, no matter how many people dislike it. If I can make a point about. Completely off topic, but on your abortion point. Bobby Weir of the Grateful Dead died this week. And there's a fantastic video of him talking about how he was adopted and he found the birth parents and his father turned out to be like an Air Force captain or something. But it was pretty cool story. And I was thinking, I have to add him to my list of all these people who would not have been born if. If their mothers had gotten pregnant after Roe v. Wade, and they would not be with us. And I think it's God telling us, wow. Jeff Bezos, Steve Jobs, Jack Nicholson, now Bobby Weir. I'd forgotten about, obviously, Tim Tebow. I have a long, long list. These are the ones I'm thinking of off the top of my head. But another adopted. Amazing, amazing person.

[Vinnie]

And again, going back to the point of. Of what does this party stand for? There's no backbone. There's no faith. There's no nothing. It's. To me, it's just anti positivity, anti Trump, and it's just all negativity. There's, like, nothing positive coming from these people.

[Tom]

Well, there's a very logical line there, but it is insanity, right? It is insanity, but there's the logic of insanity. She's being asked a scientific question in Congress, but she worships at the altar of liberalism, which needs to create and enable these groups which are then the victims, which are the blood on the flag that they wave. It's that simple. And so she can't answer a scientific question when she is sitting there about to violate the tenets of her belief in liberalism. And if you follow that logic, you say, well, that's perfectly logical. Why she can't do it. It's insanity. It's weird, it's bizarre. But it is her faith because she alters at. She worships at the altar of liberalism.

[Vinnie]

Great freaking point.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Adam]

I mean, I've been trying to have a baby with my girlfriend, and this whole time I've been the one that's been trying to get pregnant, and it just not working.

[Ann Coulter]

Wow.

[Adam]

And she's like, dude, can you do it? I'm like, I'm trying, babe.

[Tom]

Wow.

[Adam]

And they go, by the way, have you thought about maybe her being the one getting. I was like, what?

[Vinnie]

Wait a minute.

[Adam]

She's the one that does it.

[Pat]

That's weird.

[Adam]

So I called my mom and I go, mom, is it true that you're the one that birthed me. She goes, yeah, hon, why? It wasn't your dad. I go, mom, you're going to be offending some people right now, but this is the offensiveness. Like you're now offending our common sense. And shout out to Senator Hawley what an easy job he has at this point. Hey, you know what? Like, Ronald Reagan was a great communicator. He brought down communism. You know, Abraham Lincoln had an end of civil war. War. Josh Hawley has to get up and say, can men have babies? And you're doing great service for the American public because stupidity is there.

[Pat]

I want to. I want to. I want to raise this. Go off of what angel said. And it inspired me to look this up. Who are the top leaders around the world who were adopted or raised by family? You ready for these names? I knew about Steve Jobs. He was adopted by an Armenian family, by Armenian mother.

[Vinnie]

Steve Jobs.

[Pat]

Yeah. Steve Jobs, adopted at birth, later co founded Apple. Larry Ellison. Larry Ellison was adopted as an infant. Founder of Oracle. Dave Thomas, adopted. Founder of Wendy's. He lives. Lived in our community, just so you know, before he passed away. The house to the left. Marilyn Monroe, placed in foster care, later adopted. Faith Hill, adopted shortly after birth, later became a global music icon. John Lennon, raised and legally adopted by his aunt Mimi. Nelson Rockefeller, adopted Malcolm X, Foster care after father's death and mothers institutional institutionalization. Bill Clinton, raised by grandparents, later stepfather. Simone Biles, raised by grandparents, later adopted by them. Louis Armstrong, raised by grandmother and other guardians. Oprah Winfrey, raised by grandmother and later relatives. Eleanor Roosevelt, orphaned young, raised by grandmother. Jack Nicholson, raised by grandparents, believing they were his parents. Eric Clapton, raised by grandparents. Colin Kaepernick, adopted by white parents. Yes. Major cultural figure later on. Blame them. Okay. Maya Angelou, raised by grandmother after early trauma. Babe Ruth, raised in a reformed school under guardianship. Can you imagine if these guys were never born?

[Ann Coulter]

Oh, aboard.

[Adam]

You guys changed the world. Killed, literally. Steve Jobs.

[Ann Coulter]

Oh, how many have we lost?

[Vinnie]

Great point you make. How many have we lost? 70. I saw the number and I had to double check it. 73 million children are murdered every single year in the world. That.

[Tom]

What?

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Tom]

What?

[Adam]

This is why.

[Vinnie]

And I know people are gonna be like, well, the number of incest, put that away. People that are willingly going and going, you know what? I don't want it. I'm gonna murder this kid.

[Tom]

And it was the black genocide, both.

[Ann Coulter]

In Weir's case and Jobs case. Okay. The parents are in college. Yeah. It's a bad time to get pregnant. They go away. Weir didn't even know because Weir's father didn't know because the mother never told him. They were college kids. She just went to, I don't know, San Francisco Bay Area, had the baby, gave it up for adoption. It's not gonna wreck your life.

[Vinnie]

Yeah, exactly.

[Pat]

By the way, I just looked up what number is for abortions in 2024? 1,038,000.

[Adam]

Where?

[Pat]

In America alone.

[Vinnie]

Just here.

[Pat]

Just here. Worldwide, you said 73 million.

[Vinnie]

73 million.

[Ann Coulter]

Yeah.

[Pat]

73 million a year. 1.14 million is. Increase the number. And by the way, can you pull up by ethnicity or by background to see what it is?

[Adam]

We'd love to see some data.

[Pat]

Okay, Black, African Americans. You ready? They're only 13% of the population. They're 41% of the abortions. So out of the 1,410,000 were black, African American, white, non, Hispanic, 33 to 36, Hispanic, 20 to 22, Asian, 6 to 7. Everybody else is 2 to 3% of the abortion. Okay, thank you, Margaret. What was that? Sanger?

[Vinnie]

Is it Sanger?

[Pat]

She's a Planned Parenthood person. Right.

[Vinnie]

And notice that. Notice how the phrasing two pack is. Now you want to move on. Look at how innocent and Planned Parenthood, they should just name it Baby Killing. Come here and we'll kill your baby.

[Tom]

If you take a look at the voting block, Barack Obama shouldn't have been our first black president. He should have been our second. If you go back to 1973 and look at the size of the voting blocks and the size of the populace, that would have made up the United States, statistically speaking. He should have been our second black president.

[Pat]

Somebody should have made it there, is what you're saying. Like somebody else would have made it there. Yeah. Let me. Let me get to. Let me get to Venezuela. Let's talk about Venezuela here, because. And I know you've written about this. You've talked about this. So President Trump brags about a very good call with terrific Venezuelan president ahead of meeting of opposition leader. Rob, if you want to pull up this clip, this is. Is this the vice president of Maduro? Right? This is the person that replaced Maduro that was under Maduro. Yes, if that's the call. Okay, Rob, do you want to play this clip? Okay, go for it, Rob.

[Adam]

Up.

[Pat]

And we'll see how it all works out.

[Vinnie]

I think something will work out.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Ann Coulter]

Cabello, the de facto number two in Venezuela right now.

[Pat]

He seemed pretty reluctant to work with.

[Ann Coulter]

The U.S. and obviously, he just gave.

[Tom]

Us 50 million barrels of the number.

[Pat]

Two, the Venezuela security.

[Vinnie]

I know the number one.

[Pat]

We just had a great conversation today.

[Ann Coulter]

And she's a terrific person.

[Tom]

I mean, she's somebody, somebody that we've.

[Pat]

Worked with very well. Marco Rubio is dealing with. I dealt with it this morning.

[Adam]

We had a call, a long call.

[Pat]

We discussed a lot of things and I think we're getting along very well with Venezuela.

[Vinnie]

Yes.

[Pat]

So open ended question. What do you think about everything that's going on with Venezuela? Everything that happened and is going on.

[Ann Coulter]

Fantastic. I'm so happy that he is pursuing this Monroe Doctrine. I do care about what happens in our hemisphere and just. I mean, I love that both on his Iran bombing, which I wasn't in favor of before it happened, but he just did it and left, not sending in troops. And he does the same thing in Venezuela, just goes in, grabs the guy who's been under indictment under the Obama administration, under the Trump administration, they gave up. I mean, it's just a ridiculous communist government and it's just a drug cartel. That's the only way Venezuela makes money. It did have to be shut down. I like the idea and I like the way Rubio talks about it. Especially I like the idea of America going in and installing puppets. We didn't have a problem with fentanyl on 100,000Americans dying of drugs every year. Back when we were installing puppets in Latin America, we didn't have open borders and millions of people streaming across our borders. This is in our neighborhood. It's really, really affecting our country. So I love that he did it.

[Adam]

Yeah. If there's one person I trust in this situation, It's Marco Rubio. 100%. His family is Cuban immigrants. He understands what's going on. I mean, born and raised, obviously. Raised in Miami, by the way, the. How many? I can't. I don't know if I have more Colombian friends or Venezuelan friends, but they're everywhere in Miami. I've asked every single Venezuelan Colombian, I go, yes or no? Maduro. They're like, get him out of here. Not one person has said, well, you never know. Juxtapose that with the ayatollah situation equivocating over here. By the way, did you notice as soon as we took out Maduro, the Colombian president, Petro, it was all tough and bluster. Goes, yeah, I'll come meet you at the White House, sir. Like, I'll come meet you. All of a sudden, when you take out a bad dude, other bad dudes start to act a little bit better. By the way. FYI to the people of Cuba. You never know what's going to happen to your leader next.

[Pat]

I'm just saying you never know what's going to happen to your leader, and you don't know what's going to happen in Cuba. You know, can you imagine, by the end of his term, we're debating where to go for summer? Oh, let's go to Waldorf Astoria in Cuba.

[Ann Coulter]

Right?

[Pat]

Let's go to St. Regis for Cuba. Really? Yeah. Let's just go hang out over there.

[Adam]

What?

[Ann Coulter]

What?

[Pat]

Yeah, this is. This is a.

[Adam]

A.

[Pat]

A very unique thing when you think about this whole concept of how we went. America went from playing offense and went from being smaller to 13 colonies. We fought and were willing to put our lives on the line for 3% taxes. And then we come down and we have these 13 colonies, and then we get started. America does the great Founding Fathers, and I'm a byproduct of what they did for my family to have moved here, to have the life that I have. Then we buy Louisiana, 15 million. Then we buy Florida, 5 million. Then Texas comes to us. Then Alaska, 7.2 million. Then the war for, you know, California, Arizona, with Mexico. And then we could go all the way down. James Polk says, let's take over all of Mexico. A little bit of hesitation because the Catholic Mexicans to be part of that and having representation. And then let's take over Cuba. He draws that whole line. And then no one talks about it. And then there's World War I. America's afraid. Then we come back. Then There's World War II. Hey, hey. Let's start the CIA, 1947. Let's start doing all these coups and proxies, and all of a sudden, let's get involved in everyone's marriage and everyone's business, and everyone's this. And this guy's coming up and saying, no, I want Greenland. What do you want to do about it? We're going to attack you. Denmark, Go ahead.

[Vinnie]

I want green.

[Pat]

That's not how it works. It actually does. I want Greenland. That's not how this works.

[Tom]

You.

[Pat]

You don't study history. Go study history. If somebody comes in and says they want this land, you can fight for it, and I can choose to fight, or you can do a deal and I pay you. Wow. And then let me go build something I want to build. There was a tweet that came out today from Trump. We can't find it. He says, I promise you, I won't build a Trump Tower in Greenland. That's from 2019. I don't know if you guys seen this one or not. Do you remember that tweet with the picture? So. And guess what he's doing now. Venezuela. It's Monroe. Don Row. Hey, this is on a Western. I don't. I. I really, really like the way he's thinking. Yeah. This right here tweet is Twitter. Back up, by the way, Rob. Back up. Okay, good. This is a tweet, by the way, from 2019.

[Adam]

Crazy.

[Pat]

Go to the bottom, Rob. I promise not to do this to Greenland. August 19, 2019. Six years ago. Five and a half years ago. So I don't mind any of this stuff. The part that I want to ask you about is the following. So is it Eduardo the Mundo Gonzalez. I'm saying the name incorrectly. Eduardo Gonzalez, the guy who wins. Edmundo Gonzalez who wins. And Maria Corinna Machado becomes under him, which is really her winning. But she becomes a, you know, front face and the election numbers comes out. We had her on the podcast a week after she won, and we had a conversation with. I said, why are you not being more vocal and going and talking about it? You're just hiding. And she goes to the White House. Rob, if you want to play the clip, she just won a Nobel Peace Prize a few months ago, and she goes in and hands over the Nobel Peace Prize to the president. Okay. And that's what she got. And if, Rob, if you want to go play the clip of her saying that and handing it over to her. No, the one where she says that I am here proudly wanting to give my Nobel Peace Prize to President Trump and she is recognized him and Peace Prize Trump. And there's a speech. If you can't find it, it's fine. We'll just go into it. Okay. It's all good. If we can't find a clip, I'll look forward.

[Tom]

This is her with Fox News where she.

[Pat]

Afterwards, she deserves it. Okay, go for it.

[Vinnie]

In spite of the Nobel Prize committee.

[Adam]

Saying that you couldn't transfer your Nobel.

[Ann Coulter]

Prize to anyone, especially President Trump, you did today. Why did you do that?

[Adam]

Because he deserves it.

[Ann Coulter]

And it was a very emotional moment. I decided to present.

[Vinnie]

The Nobel Peace.

[Ann Coulter]

Prize medal on behalf of the people of Venezuela.

[Vinnie]

In spite of the Nobel Prize committee saying that you.

[Pat]

Okay, so she does that, which is great, very noble. And I think a part of it she wants to do, to give him credit, because the day she won it, that day, she said, I don't know why you're giving it to me. You should have given it to her president. Response. It was my great honor to meet Karim Marina Machado of Venezuela today. She's a wonderful woman who has been through so much. Maria presented me with her Nobel Peace Prize for the work I've done. Such a wonderful gesture of mutual respect. Thank you, Maria. Great. Even with this this guy, this unique guy, was still not flattered enough to say you can have the job.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Watch what Caroline Levitt says here. Go ahead.

[Vinnie]

Is it still the president's assessment that.

[Ann Coulter]

It would be very hard for Ms.

[Vinnie]

Machado to leave Venezuela because he says she lacks the respect and support in.

[Ann Coulter]

That country, and will he raise that with her today? I think the president's assessment that you just pointed out was based on realities on the ground. It was a realistic assessment based on what the president was reading and hearing from his advisors and national security team. And at this moment in time, his opinion on that matter has not changed my response. He also said that he would like.

[Pat]

There to be elections in Venezuela when.

[Vinnie]

The time is right. That's right.

[Ann Coulter]

Do you have any update on when that might be and is he committed to a transition to Democracy for Venezuela? Ms. Yes, and he is also committed to hopefully seeing elections in Venezuela one day. But I don't have an updated timetable for you today.

[Pat]

Okay, reaction to it. I want to hear from you, your reaction on the fact that he still is not giving her the throne.

[Ann Coulter]

Well, for one thing, it gives the lie to the Washington Post and various msnbc. They're snipping. He won't let her be leader because she won the note. No, it has nothing to do with that. I think it's the same thing as with Reza. No, she's not gonna be the leader. We need a military junta.

[Adam]

There.

[Ann Coulter]

Exactly what you were saying about Iran. No, for one thing, I think it should be a man. This is an Hispanic macho culture, but it's it ought to be someone with the support of the military. I would not let those people vote again. They voted for Chavez over and over again. It was the poor people, the peasants running out. Oh, you're gonna give us the golf courses and. Yep, he gave them the golf course. Well, okay, this is what they got. They voted for this. So do not let those people vote again. It's gonna have to be a military guy. I understand this from her perspective. I think it was from the heart. He has done a lot. If there were a legitimate peace prize in the world, Trump should have won it. I don't think the Nobel Peace Prize is legitimate. I don't know why Trump does want it. I think it's kind of embarrassing that he accepted it. He should have thanked her and said, that's a lovely gesture, but it's the Nobel Peace Prize. I'm like, this means nothing to me.

[Vinnie]

Yo, Obama got it. With what? How long was Obama in?

[Ann Coulter]

I don't think he was even president.

[Vinnie]

No, no, I think it was like he just showed up and like, hey, here, take this. Yeah, you're Jesus to us. But I think with.

[Pat]

With.

[Vinnie]

You made a good point about the Reza Palavi. He doesn't feel.

[Pat]

He.

[Vinnie]

He knows. He's like all the flattery in the world. Trump is. Is laser focused right now, Pat. And I think, though, you know, I mean, what.

[Pat]

It.

[Vinnie]

Why the left and all these people this. They're not used to a real leader, okay? And they're just. And I can't even blame them. They're not used to it. They've never had this type of freaking boss coming. You know what it reminds me of? Like, a mother getting divorced and the old dad was like, whatever. And the new stepdad comes in and he's like a Marine, retired, and the kids don't know how. Oh, my God. There's discipline, there's freaking order. Let's not forget Venezuela. Emptied the freaking prison. All the drug boys, trendragua going around taking up freaking residency and apartments in freaking. In Colorado. But here's my thing. If there's a way that the United States could make Venezuela a better place for those trender agua and the people hitting ice with shovels in the head, good. I'm all for it. Make your place good so you don't have to come here and ruin ours. Plain and simple.

[Adam]

That's it. Yeah. And it's pretty clear, you know, socialism or communism sounds good, but it's not good. So if we want to implement this new Don Row doctrine, you know, let's keep communism and socialism, let's keep it as far into the Eastern hemisphere as possible. But if it's going to creep into the Western hemisphere like it has done in Venezuela.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Amazing country. Now ruined Cuba. We've seen what's going on there. Brazil. Your friend Lula, you mentioned Cuba. Cuba. Have you ever been to Cuba? No, I've been to Cuba. Ten years ago.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

For our friend Keith's bachelor party. I don't know how he pulled it off. We went on some mission trip, and here's how it would define communism and socialism. We get there, it's literally the 1950s. Like, it's like you're A time traveler. Shout out to Candace Owens, who thinks that Charlie Kirk's a time traveler. Now, that's another whole story. You know, I love Back to the Future, but you go back to the future in Cuba. Cuba. And you get there, you check into your hotel, and you're living, you know, in. In the center of town, city center. And it's genuinely nice in your little part of city center.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

And then you get in a car and you say, let's go drive around. And it's like, you know how, like, Disney World, it looks like it's a nice building, and you go in and it's all just fake. Everything is broken down, has not been fixed. Fixed. Nothing works. Everything's dilapidated. Buildings are crumbling. Nothing's been updated since the 1950s, 1960s. So it looks great on the surface. And then you open the door, you pop the hood, or you drive around the block, and the whole thing is crumbling. That is communism, by the way.

[Pat]

Did you guys go out? Like, was there nightlife?

[Adam]

Yes, we went out.

[Pat]

Women. Nice.

[Adam]

I'm not allowed to talk about it.

[Pat]

No, I'm just telling you. I'm asking you. We did go out, so it was good. It was fun.

[Adam]

Yes.

[Pat]

I mean, was it like a. A 50 year ago of Miami vibe? Like, is it like that? Or was it still. You felt like you're in a different country?

[Adam]

You're definitely. I mean, I live in Miami, so to me, going out in Doral or going out in Caracas or Havana, it's the same thing. But it's. It's very interesting. Ernest Hemingway, the whole thing. But you're traveling, literally, driving around in American Cadillacs from 57. 57.

[Pat]

Western Hemisphere. That's Western hemisphere. So he could do something with that as well. And by the way, you know, there's enough people. Where is Ted Cruz from, by the way? Isn't he Cuban?

[Adam]

Is.

[Ann Coulter]

He's born in Canada, but his father's Cuban.

[Pat]

I get it, I get it. But. But isn't his father Cuban? Like.

[Adam]

Yes.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Pat]

So I think there's enough interested parties that I think, I don't know, go.

[Adam]

Down to Miami, see what they think.

[Pat]

Expansionist mindset. As a capitalist, I don't mind. I know it's gonna upset a lot of socialists and communists and. And TDS folks, but I don't mind it. So let me get to the. The. The last story. Rob, do you have the story of what happened with the shovel and the shooting and the, like, two guys at the same time? You know which one I'm talking about?

[Vinnie]

Vinny. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Pat]

So. So let. Rob, what page is this on?

[Vinnie]

This happened two days ago.

[Pat]

Is this the one that says illegal Venezuelan migrant shot in Minneapolis? Rob, Is that the one?

[Adam]

One.

[Pat]

Okay, so illegal Venezuelan migrant shot in.

[Ann Coulter]

Minneapolis for the last 24 hours after.

[Pat]

Mercilessly ambushing fed agent with snow shovel.

[Tom]

Weird.

[Pat]

According to dhs.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Okay, again, another one of those that sounds like an Onion story or a Babylon beast story, but it's not. So an illegal Venezuelan migrant was shot in the leg by a federal immigration agent in Minneapolis after he allegedly fled during a traffic stopped and beat the ambush officer with a snow shovel Wednesday evening. The Department of Homeland Security said the suspect was behind the wheel when he tried to get away from federal immigration officers at 6:50pm local time, but he crashed into a parked car. Great driver. The migrant then tried to escape on foot and violently assaulted the officer as two wrestled on the ground. According to an ex post. While the man continued to struggle with the officer, two other people emerged from a nearby apartment and allegedly mercilessly attacked the agent with a snow shovel and broom handle in the chaos. Rob, do you have the video on this? Is there documentation?

[Vinnie]

I don't think there's actual video of it happening, but I'm pretty sure Rob will have the three Venezuelan illegals that were involved in it. And notice, you're not gonna see. You're not gonna see it plastered everywhere. It was like on for like an hour, but then it disappears. You know why? It doesn't fit the narrative. It's not a. A mother of three who. They're using old photos. No, it's three dudes that look like they just got out of prison.

[Pat]

Can we see the pictures?

[Vinnie]

Robbie, do you have a photo about three Venezuelans that were. By the way, let me. Tell me how peaceful and. And sweet these guys look. These. You don't see them liberals sticking up for these guys, huh? The family. This guy's right here. Those are the three guys.

[Ann Coulter]

Yeah, yeah. We have to go.

[Adam]

Yeah, yeah.

[Vinnie]

Exact. Great point hidden do stand times to show these dudes, where's the riots, where's the. Where's the craziness, where's the wildness? So. So, by the way. And where does he get the attitude of, you know what? I'm going to get out of my car, I'm going to try to hit him with my car. And then a door opens from a house, two other Venezuelans come out and start beating them with shovels.

[Ann Coulter]

Yeah.

[Vinnie]

Anybody want to take a wild stab in the dark of where the hell they're getting this attitude because the freaking mayor, the governor, and Elon Omar, like, guys fight back.

[Pat]

Okay?

[Vinnie]

These. This is the enemy. Okay. Notice how it didn't make it right, Tom. This isn't. But you barely saw it. And then what is this? This is a. Go ahead, Rob.

[Tom]

This is a separate incident. This is a Latin Kings member. So while that police officer reportedly was being attacked, other police officers in Minneapolis went to his aid. While they were doing that, this Latin Kings member then broke into a police car and then stole police weaponry, including a gun, bullets, and a bulletproof vest simultaneously.

[Pat]

When. This is what you were telling me in the back?

[Tom]

Yep. So it happened at the same time. And then the FB FBI just arrested this guy yesterday.

[Vinnie]

FBI arrested him. But now think about it. They're.

[Tom]

Now they're armed, which I changed to the gun locker.

[Adam]

And then they have another car go drive.

[Vinnie]

Just an FYI. I want people out there to know.

[Pat]

What are these guys doing?

[Vinnie]

They're stealing everything from the car. Weapons, guns, magazines, bullets. That's a long rifle.

[Pat]

Stolen FBI rifle. Don't wear.

[Adam]

Look at that tattoo.

[Vinnie]

What guys. Is that a father from Maryland? Is that another father from Maryland?

[Pat]

Is that.

[Vinnie]

Who the hell that was?

[Tom]

That Maryland man has a gun.

[Vinnie]

Maryland. Oh, that was a Minnesota man. Cuz he's a dad. Right? Give me a break. And I'm going to warn everybody out there. For all these out there, hopefully this hits one of their, their, their. Their TVs or their phones. If you get into a cop car that's armed, who's recording this?

[Pat]

Just people.

[Vinnie]

Idiots. They want clout. They're recording. Look at. Look at it.

[Pat]

Dumb criminal.

[Vinnie]

All of them are stupid. These are the dumbest criminals. They record everything. Morons. But just, just. I'm going to finish my point.

[Ann Coulter]

Point.

[Vinnie]

If you jump in a cop car and. And there's weapons in the cop car and they're. They could shoot and kill you as you're leaving. Because now you're gonna go. And they don't know what's the guy. This is the guy that stole the stuff out of the shock.

[Adam]

The dude who made the decision to tattoo his face.

[Pat]

Weird.

[Adam]

Made some other field.

[Vinnie]

Unfortunately, Minnesota, Takashi 69 is out there breaking into vehicles and stealing guns.

[Pat]

Okay, thoughts on this? Both on.

[Ann Coulter]

It's interesting how hard it is to get the pictures and the videos of this boy. You're not seeing that on msnbc. You're not seeing that on cnn. And also reminds us, yeah, he should be sending in federal troops. This is it's. Kind of an embarrassing mistake that the FBI. I don't. I don't care that somebody's being attacked. You got to hit the clicker on your car when it's full of weapons like this. They should have left somebody to guard the weapons.

[Vinnie]

They.

[Ann Coulter]

That's not good. But, yeah, this is most of the people they're arresting. Tom, one more thing about this. I'm sorry to finish. The things that they had, besides being let in illegally by Biden, besides being probable criminals in Venezuela, the only crimes they had committed in this country were relatively minor if you only read it in prose. They lied to police officers. They were driving without a license. This is what they look like. The difference between a. Oh, no criminal conviction illegal and a criminal conviction illegal is about one week.

[Vinnie]

Yes, you're 100% right. I agree.

[Tom]

Yeah, it's just like. Let me. Let me translate. Oh, no. They're deporting our voting block.

[Ann Coulter]

I mean, that's.

[Pat]

That's.

[Tom]

That's really. If you translate it and you look at this stuff and this is Portland, we're seeing it again. This is just like Portland. And now we're going to defund the police. This mayhem will continue, and then their people are going to be coming back voting. These are liberals in Portland that are voting for restoration of justice. And they're changing the names of all the groups of the police officers instead of SWAT to rapid response teams, because maybe that feels better, but it's the same thing. Five guys have invaded my house. Can you please come get them? Preferably drag them out. Thank you. You know, come conduct some police business. And that's what's going on here. I'm not being silly. We are seeing it in Portland. We're about to see a complete. By the way, we've seen people in Chicago that would stop the citizen journalist and says, hey, man, we need Trump to send him here. Please send him here. Reasonable people of multiple ethnicities that are living in these areas of the town, hey, man, I'm a Southsider. Go White Sox. Look at what's going on here. We need the police, need help.

[Vinnie]

I'm just. Mind you, please hear me completely out. I'm not hoping or wishing any of this to happen, but in my mind, I'm like, what would make this. These people, especially the higher ups and the Tim Walsh, the Ilhan Omar, the Fry, the Gavin Newsom, what would make them. I know, because it is a voting block they like. I'm just wondering, like, would a phone call, like, let's just say God forbid. Hey, Gavin. Yeah. What's going on? I hate to say this to you, but your. Your son, God rest his, was just killed. Oh my God. The first question.

[Pat]

What.

[Vinnie]

What happened? An illegal that wasn't supposed to be in the country was drunk driving and ran over him. I'm very curious to what happens to his pro open border illegal. We need the votes. Give them health care. Does that change someone like that or do they stick. Stick to still stick to their gun?

[Tom]

He blames Trump the same way Fry is blaming ICE for fomenting violence 100%.

[Vinnie]

And that's my thing.

[Tom]

Is ISIS fomenting the violence? No, they're. They're arresting people.

[Vinnie]

Yeah. And that's the thing, is not. None of this has happened. None of this directly impacts any of the people that are out there. The Ilhan Omar stepping on trucks and saying it until it happens, happens to someone they love or someone that's close to them. I'm very curious to see if the tune changes, because until that happens, they don't give a damn because it's not their kids, not their wives getting sexually assaulted. They're not getting freaking their money stolen. So it's nonsense.

[Adam]

I think Minnesota needs their own version of Rudy Giuliani, like how we cleaned up New York. And unfortunately they're just continuing to elect the Mamdanis in Minnesota. And no wonder is this. By the way, I'm born and raised in Miami. My mom is from Minnesota. I'd go to Minnesota every summer, winter, I would see people with snow shovels. I've never seen a Venezuelan with a snow shovel in Miami. What do you like? Venezuelan and snow shovels. That's not a thing. How would a Venezuelan know how to operate like a Somalian with a leering center. Why are these things occurring? I don't get it. But this to me, you know, Pat, you've talked about something called the hero making machine. So this guy, Jacob Frey, I just want to give this guy a big shout out to him if we can show an image of him. This is what weak leadership looks like. This is the epitome of. What is it? Good men create. Strong men create good times. Good. Good times create weak men. This is the weak man that they're talking about. Because in my opinion, he'd rather be liked than respected. Rudy Giuliani, to give him some credit, would rather be respected than liked. Being liked is fleeting. People will turn on you in an instant. Being respected. Yo, that's. That's respect, sir. So it's kind of like we've seen this, and it's a weird analogy. In the NBA, David Stern was respected. Maybe PB wasn't liked, but everyone respected him running the NBA. And now they got this guy, Adam Silver that wants to be liked. And now the players are running the league just like the protesters are running Minnesota. And just like the inmates are running the asylum. This is a failure of leadership and trying to make the hero making machine this clown or George Floyd rather than real people with real solutions. I pray for Minnesota and I hope Venezuelans stop hanging out with snow shovels.

[Vinnie]

And just, just because you mentioned his name, if this is okay, Pat, I want to play the video of your friend, Mayor Jacob Frey. This is the biggest. This is the biggest. This is the biggest cell phone. He just made the argument against mass immigration, but he used ice. Look at how stupid he looks. Go ahead, Rob.

[Pat]

Look.

[Adam]

Imagine if that city or that town.

[Pat]

Was suddenly invaded by.

[Tom]

By thousands of federal agents that do.

[Vinnie]

Not share the values that you hold dear. Minnesota.

[Adam]

Imagine if your daily routines were disrupted.

[Vinnie]

The local cafe that you eat at.

[Pat]

Was shut down because they're, they're scared.

[Tom]

That their own family might get torn apart.

[Vinnie]

Imagine if school is shut down and suddenly parents got to figure out what.

[Tom]

To do for daycare.

[Adam]

Buddy, those are the protesters that are rooting yourself. How are you not understanding?

[Vinnie]

He is the funniest.

[Adam]

Protesters are ruining this.

[Vinnie]

He's Somalis. Yeah. Imagine the thousands of people. Yeah, it's called Minnesota.

[Pat]

All right, let's do. Let's do this. Clinton one, and then we'll wrap up. So facing contempt threat, Clinton refuses testifying. Epstein inquiry. Rob, if you got that, that's a New York Times story and I think Jon Stewart responds to it as well. Is that James Comer?

[Tom]

Rob, this is.

[Pat]

What clips do you have on this? Because that's a long clip. Is there. What's Comer saying here about.

[Tom]

This is where he talks about actually prosecuting the Clintons for avoiding the subpoena.

[Pat]

Go for it. The White House. Jeffrey Epstein visited the White House 17 times while Bill Clinton was president. I've been in Congress nine years. I think I've been to the White House nine times in nine years. Epstein was in the White House double the amount of time that I was under one president. And then we know that Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's plane somewhere around 27 times after the presidency. So no one's accusing Bill Clinton of anything, any wrongdoing. We just have questions. And that's why the Democrats voted a lot. Is that the painting she's holding to the left.

[Vinnie]

You have him.

[Pat]

Is that the girl that goes to movies a lot?

[Vinnie]

Yeah, she loves movies.

[Pat]

That's who it is.

[Adam]

Lauren Boebert's holding movies a lot.

[Pat]

Yeah, that's.

[Vinnie]

She loves movies, by the way.

[Pat]

And this is what Jon Stewart had to say about it. Let's see what Jon Stewart is saying because Jon Stewart. Go ahead. Go ahead, Rob. Does is compliance a kind of of specialized individual indigenous opportunity or is it. Should it be universal? I mean, the Department of Justice has subpoenaed them to testify in the Jeffrey Epstein case while not complying with releasing the files. So how does that comport in any. But do I personally think they should comply? Absolutely. Absolutely. And if they've got something to hide or an affair like, yes, we should know about all this. This is bonkers how long this is.

[Tom]

Going on and we have only seen such a fraction.

[Ann Coulter]

I think I was reading like 2.

[Pat]

Million files still have to come out.

[Ann Coulter]

It's 1% is what I've seen. Yeah, like that we've seen.

[Pat]

And the casual nature in these emails are like, hey, can you get me an Indian and a redhead? Like it's. They're just casually is literally like they're ordering from, you know, uber eats. And the spelling errors.

[Tom]

It's humiliating.

[Pat]

Pause it right there. Okay, so where are you at with this? Where are you at with the whole Epstein thing?

[Ann Coulter]

I think Trump made a big mistake, one of the biggest ones of his of his second term. As for the Clinton thing, well, I think it's utterly unfair. It's a great point John Stewart makes. When you're subpoenaed by Congress, you have to respond to the subpoena. And if they're going to prosecute Steve Bannon for not responding to a subpoena and prosecute Peter Navarro for not. The problem with DC is it's run by Democrats. So I mean, this Eric Holder was in contempt of Congress. I think it was a virtually unanimous vote and nothing can be done because it's a Democrat city. So that's a big problem when only one party has to respond to subpoenas. On the other hand, if I were comer, I would have phrased it differently. I would have said we have this big issue with Epstein. We're trying to get the bout of him. We're investigating it. You were the head of the Democratic Party. You were President of the United States. We want your help here. We want you to come investigate and not set it up as assuming guilt on the part of Bill Clinton's.

[Tom]

Interesting.

[Adam]

Adam Bill Clinton's not gonna ever get in trouble, ever. It's not gonna happen.

[Vinnie]

And that sucks.

[Adam]

I mean, by the way, there's no. I don't know if he's innocent, guilty, I don't know. That's not my thing. I just. There's not going to be any accountability for Bill Clinton. There might be others. We saw what happened to Prince Andrew. We've seen what happened to. Who was it Larry Summers? Is that who it was? Okay, Lauren.

[Pat]

Summer.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Pat]

Since he stepped away from Ryan, ain't.

[Adam]

Nothing happening to Bill Clinton, by the way. And I'm sure I'll catch a lot of heat from it on all the things that are on my news feed that I'm going to click on. China, tariffs, you know, Maduro, Venezuela, let's buy Greenland. At the bottom of my personal list is this Epstein situation, is it important? Of course. Do we need to find out what happened? Of course. Am I holding my breath? Not at all.

[Vinnie]

Okay, but you saying, Adam, nothing's going to happen, which I agree with you and I'll get to my point. Thanks. But does it bother Adam that there's so much. There's not, there's not just smoke. There's a fire. The fire is burning and it's been burning forever. Does it upset you, though, that none of them, none of them are, Are going to get held accountable? Because for, for one thing, when you lawfully skip a subpoena, you know what that, that's saying? I'm above the law and I could do what I. What are you going to do? What are you going to do? If that was you, Adam, or if that was me, bro, you would have. Nobody, you would have been a whisperer. Nobody would have. You're gone, and you're gone forever. Okay? And by the way, you know what nobody talked about, not one single Democrat from the House Oversight Committee showed up to even sit there and wait for them because they know that, wait, this is the same party that's been like, Trump and Trump, where you, where are you at when it comes to them? And this whole pedophile protecting nonsense, it's, it's, it's preposterous. Okay? All these people know, know. They know when people are like, oh, it's Trump. No, no, they know what the hell's going on. Bill Clinton flew on the Lolita or whatever jet from Epstein 22 to 23 times. Who, Jeffrey Epstein went to the White House. What was it, Rob, 17 times in one year to see the President. What were they, what were they doing, Adam? Were they trading recipes? Like carrot cake recipes? No, they were talking about him and going to Epstein Island. We saw the photo heroes coming out. I think I get what you're saying. Nothing's gonna happen. It's not. One person's gonna hold them accountable, and they're all gonna meet their freaking. And Adam, that gives me the most comfort in my heart of hearts is that you can run here and the Prince of Darkness runs this place. We're not running from him.

[Adam]

What happens if all these people that did all these illegal things except Jesus the last second?

[Vinnie]

Okay, good luck.

[Adam]

I'm actually being serious. Yes. In their hearts. Pedophiles.

[Vinnie]

In their heart and pedophiles.

[Adam]

And they care.

[Ann Coulter]

I think we are going to find.

[Adam]

Pedophiles on Epstein Island. They accept Jesus at the last second. What happens in their heart of hearts?

[Vinnie]

In their heart of hearts, they're good to go.

[Tom]

Wow.

[Vinnie]

Okay, hold on. You think pedophiles in the last minute are going to say that?

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Vinnie]

You think pedophiles. No, not like Scott. Not like.

[Adam]

Oh, you don't think that pedophiles believe in Jesus? Have you heard of the Catholic Church, buddy?

[Vinnie]

No. I mean, come on. That's.

[Tom]

You're.

[Vinnie]

You're.

[Adam]

Am I. Did I just make that up?

[Ann Coulter]

Epstein thing, which is our topic. I think you're kind of right. It's not that interesting yet. But I don't see any reason why it won't get interesting. Because the American people demanded that even. Even Trump do something he doesn't want to do.

[Adam]

Trump never said he wanted to. Dan bonjeani.

[Ann Coulter]

No, I'm not talking about the American. The point is, a law was passed. They have to do it the 1%. Now, that's true. That's unfortunate. That's because they suddenly found a million more documents. I think we're gonna get the documents. I mean, they can't if we don't. Now we're gonna get them under President Vance. So kind of boring now, but I think we're gonna get them at some point, and that's when it's gonna be at the top of your feet.

[Adam]

I just have one question for the great Ann Coulter. Are you more interested in the Epstein case or what's going on in Iran?

[Ann Coulter]

Oh, definitely Epstein. Twitter being down is number one.

[Adam]

Yeah, I'm way more focused on.

[Vinnie]

Well, now. Well, in regard to the story, the committee is set to vote on the contempt. If it passes, it goes to a full House vote where Republicans own the majority. But then it goes to the DOJ and Pam Bondi decides whether to prosecute. That's what I'm waiting for. Because she has connections to Florida. I know she showed up after the whole Epstein situation happened. Happened, but Pam, with her 10, 000 hours of videos and all that stuff, this is going, I don't want this. This isn't going to die out for me, Adam. I'm waiting to find out what Pam Bondi does because Bill and Hillary are kicking their feet up going, we don't got to do nothing. He could do whatever he want. Besides the Juanita Broderick and how many sexual assault allegations are on Bill. How many times did he have to fly to this island and meet with Epstein for somebody to go, yeah, it seems like you're freaking guilty. It seems like he's guilty out of them.

[Adam]

It's not your fault.

[Vinnie]

I know it's not.

[Ann Coulter]

I'd rather have Holly asking the questions.

[Adam]

Yeah, I'm worried about what is an island. I don't know. What is an island? What.

[Tom]

What does is mean?

[Vinnie]

What is. What is island?

[Tom]

This is already on a path for the DOJ because this is the first step. Congress pulls you in for a closed door deposition and then they refer the matter to the doj. That's the path run. Bill and Hillary wrote this long letter to comer that they immediately handed to the New York Times that said there's a time to defend the people, the practices and the justice of the United States, and that time is now. So that they, right on cue, right on brand, portray themselves as being effectively patriots, freedom fighters, you know, victims cowering and cowering victims under the weight of mishandling, abusive justice. That's their positioning. And so now they're going to vote and say, do we hold them in contempt and do we go to the doj?

[Pat]

Even Jon Stewart is done with it. You know, he's like, listen, stop it. You know, go out there and show up. The part is, if they don't show up, you could get away with it under any other president except for Trump. So if Trump was using his power to get rid of Maduro, try to get Greenland, if Trump really wanted to, he could really target and get Clintons. He's not. That's the question. Why not? Is it friends? Is it allies? Is it not important? Is it you're using the list, Is it you using the list as a leverage?

[Ann Coulter]

There's still time.

[Pat]

There still is time. I'm just saying right now to you.

[Vinnie]

Down there for sure is like bro code.

[Adam]

Yeah, maybe there's like president code.

[Vinnie]

Code no, no, I don't think.

[Ann Coulter]

Not anymore.

[Vinnie]

Not anymore.

[Ann Coulter]

It used to be.

[Vinnie]

I think he's waiting. You know, it'd be the greatest move. He waits till the last right when he's about to leave.

[Pat]

You know who broke president Jesus, by the way? You know who broke the president code? One guy. Obama. Hussein Obama broke the president code. What'd he do when Trump was campaigning? What do you mean? What was he broke the president, by the way, to be respectful, George Bush kept the code.

[Adam]

Oh, he wrote Obama of nice.

[Pat]

No, no, no. But what I'm saying to you is never once did he come out criticizing OB every single day. If there was a word that Obama used the most, what was the one word? What was the one word I inherited. Inherited was his reap. I would love to know how many times did Obama under his. Admitted under his, under his administration used the word inherit. Can you ask ChatGPT how many times did Obama use the word I inherit it? How many times during his administration? I'm willing to bet nobody's used that phrase more than this.

[Ann Coulter]

That's a great point.

[Pat]

Over and over and over again. So just give him a shout out if you're saying he. I'd love to see a stat on this. Anyways. Okay, if you're watching this right now and you're asking yourself, I fully disagree with what Adam had to say or Vinnie has to say in Epstein or any of the topics or if you're watching this honestly and I'm like being very honest with you guys, guys, if you like Tom, you want to help him out, manect him a good joke.

[Vinnie]

This was horrible today.

[Pat]

Send him a few dad jokes like you know what I bought him for his birthday. Do you want to tell everybody what I bought you for your birthday? Be honest. I, I had this not Christmas birthday.

[Tom]

It's like this little tower. There was three of them all wrapped real nice. Opened them, it was three books on the greatest dad jokes.

[Pat]

I'm trying to help out guys. He's not, he's not reading you. So Brooke Bailey, maybe encourage your dad to pick up that book instead of all the other books he's reading and, and Coulter and Coter. If you're not already doing this, go follow her substack and sign up for Roblet. Put the link below for people to go follow the substack as well.

[Ann Coulter]

Almost everything's free.

[Pat]

I almost.

[Ann Coulter]

I'm a very bad businesswoman.

[Adam]

Well, there's something called Bet David Consulting if you want to scale your business. We have a five step process that basically is dummy proof and you will scale your business to success.

[Pat]

And by the way, here I am, Vinnie. Represent.

[Vinnie]

Send me.

[Ann Coulter]

Love your T shirts.

[Vinnie]

Thank you so much. I'll get you. I'm gonna get you a female one. They have a bunch. They have some colors on this too. But I'm gonna get you. I promise you.

[Adam]

I got you. Guys, it is the weekend. Miami. Here I am. Send me down to Miami.

[Vinnie]

No, Adam.

[Pat]

That's Adam for you.

[Tom]

By the way, we have a Democrat one there. You guys send him.

[Pat]

Have a great weekend. If. But just an FYI for everybody, if something goes on this weekend, we're gonna have an emergency podcast. So brace for impact if something crazy happens because we have a president that's somewhat unpredictable. If something were to happen, we will do an emergency podcast. And Coulter, as usual, thanks for coming out. This was wonderful. You're awesome. Take care, everybody. Have a great weekend. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye bye. Bye bye.