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Tom
Did you ever think you were made.
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Pat
For me, Adam?
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Tom
What's your point?
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Pat
The future looks bright.
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Tom
My handshake is better than anything I ever saw. It's right here.
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Pat
You are a 1 of 1 My son's right about.
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Tom
I don't think I've ever said this before.
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Pat
You know things are bad when you don't put your hand in Scott Jennings face ever. I don't know if you guys saw this like, what are you doing? A guy's putting his hands in his face. Scott Jennings flips out. Then we hear all these stories. This executive in Chase, you know, apparently allegedly tells this other Indian guy that's got a very interesting looking face that apparently he told. She told him, I bet your little Asian fish head wife doesn't have these cannons. Who says that? Who talks like that?
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Vinnie
I hope it's not who talks like that? I know it's not in an email.
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Pat
Threaten your employees like that. And by the way, we. So that story got like 40, 50 million views on X yesterday. You know that's inappropriate to talk like that, Tom. I don't know, like maybe to you it's like normal talking like that. It's just not. And then by the way, a few things that top stories that we have to go through the War Powers act. We have to address that. What Pete Heck said yesterday in May 1st deadline. Today is May 1st. It's a special day because Ayrton Senna with Jake coming in here telling the story. But May 1st a special day, 1994, Jake reminded us. But anyways, also with that, you know, May 1st deadline, can he continue war on Iran after that? U.S. israel, war on Iran News. That's an Al Jazeera story. We'll hit that. Aside from that comey, when I saw this, I'm like, there's no way this guy's getting arrested. And he showed up himself, right, Vinnie, he pulls. He shows up himself.
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Vinnie
And this is not like.
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Pat
It's not like Todd Blanche did it. It's not like the DOJ did it. No, this is a jury. This is a grand that came up. And so it's a legit thing that's going on.
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Vinnie
They hear evidence. Yeah, this isn't out of the blue.
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Pat
You know, some of them could even be on his side saying, hey, you can't talk like that. The former director of FBI, you say 8647, come on. And then clip comes out with the. The lyric center crushed it. They were out of business apparently the FBI saying nobody's working out of there. And Some people say Nick Shirley should get credit for that. They shouldn't get credit for that. I think he definitely should get credit for that. And then Fauci, one of Fauci's partners, came up, and apparently he got in trouble. We'll talk about that. Redistricting, massive story. The moment that story was dropped, I had Governor Westmore here. We were talking about it, and it's definitely. It's 12 additional seats. Republicans pick up like this. Four in Florida. This is massive. Just so you know that for this to go through, Spencer Pratt pulls up the best campaign video ad we've seen in a long time. And it had a direct impact on Kalshee. Okay. On couch. Immediately, Erica Kerr came up, and she. She shot a video. Some say she was dressed like Eminem, but she shot a video talking about, you know, people that are criticizing, you know, there was so much reaction to it, you know, that we have to talk about it. Everybody's like, how come you're not talking about, like, I don't want to talk about my friend's wife. But, you know, we will talk about it and give some thoughts here. The guys want to talk about it. They got some, you know, things they want to share about that. And then aside from that, you know, you ever hear the saying, you know, this person's the cure for insomnia? You ever hear that saying, like, if you have a sleeping problem, this is, like, scientific right now. It's no longer, like, being disputed. Scientists are agreeing with this. Kamala Harris is the cure for insomnia. This man who's a saxophone guy, poor guy sitting there trying to do his job. Kamala Harris is giving a speech. He's knocked out on the other side. He's putting big pharma out of business. He's putting big pharma out of business. Big pharma was selling medicine to put people to sleep. They're like, no, just put Kamala Harris for a speech. You'll fall asleep. And by the. What's crazy is, Vinnie, that she. She just went up on calcium. And, you know, the fact that she could be the nominee, you know, they're like, she could be the nominee as a leading candidate. And who knows? It'll be great because she'll small numbers,
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Tom
but 4x over four days.
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Pat
It is what it is. Forex over four days. You got to respect it. Trump compliments this NASA scientist ears in a very trump way that you have to see. He says, look at his ears. You know, he.
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Tom
What did he say?
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Pat
He can hear anything.
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Vinnie
He's like, you just have to see this.
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Pat
I don't even want to.
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Adam
That's like your buddy on the NFL nest, right?
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Vinnie
He looked at him and said, no,
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Pat
no, no, that guy's the goat. Nobody listens. Nobody. Nobody puts him in the corner. That guy's got the ears. One of a kind. He knows who he is. He's listening. He listens to every conversation in the world. And then aside from that, we have a couple other things. Video comes out, doing MRI on study on kids, on the power of watching videos. What it does to you on. What do you call it? Doom scrolling or debt scrolling. What is the phrase? Doom scrolling? How it is for you, how bad it is for you. A couple of the videos that came up about zombie, like, state San Francisco drug addicts. You got Tesla hits a milestone with semi truck production. The stock is up. What else can I talk about? Freaking Anna Paulina Luna, rock star, rock star. They're trying to do whatever they can because she is exposing a lot of stuff. She's such a rock star. Great job for what she's doing. Gas prices, wherever you are, it's probably not at a discount right now. It apparently hit touch $126. Okay, which is the highest in four years. Hit 126. Some are now saying it could go to 200. Some are concerned about it. And then we got Elon and open AI, Sam Altman's lawyer getting into a fight. And one story that I don't appreciate really pisses me off, honestly, to, you know, this is the kind of stories that you read and you're like, you guys got to get. Get your act together. Why? 47 is the age you hit peak happiness according to science. I'm done after 47. You're screwed. Okay, but 47 is the age we're going to try to prove that wrong. See if they know what they're talking about.
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Adam
Big number.
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Pat
That's a big number. 47. So having said that, before we get started, I don't like that Jokic is out to the Nuggets. That's the team I was rooting for. I don't like that. I don't like that Anthony Edwards is injured. Makes the NBA boring. A bunch of people are getting injured. You know, similar move. He was trying to make a couple guys under ACL that, you know, I relate to as a professional athlete here on our campus. But we're rooting for Wemby. I want to see Wemby. I'm very proud of the New York Mets for having a worst record in Major League Baseball. Congratulations to the Mets. You guys are crushing it with the biggest payroll, and you can't even buy wins anymore. It's terrible. I feel bad for them because at least the Dodgers can buy wins when they go pay $7 billion, or however much money they're paying to players they're winning. But this is going to be an interesting season for baseball. 7.2, 7.2 billion. Having said that, okay, couple things I want to share with you. One, one, the FLB shoes people were messaging me. Size 14, it's coming soon. They were messenger messaging us about a couple different things that's coming up as Opab. What's the surprise with the big shoe? We have a lot of stuff that's going on, but right now, when you look at this couple of these sizes at 10, 10 and a half, 11, we have less than 40 pairs of those sizes. So if you're somebody that wants to get your future looks bright shoes and you haven't yet for yourself or your spouse, go get them. Especially if you're walking a lot. You're talking yesterday, we're sitting in a meeting, literally, Tom and I, in Palm beach with two billionaires, of which one of them gave $50 million to, you know, he gave a lot of money to the previous campaign. And we're talking business. We're talking about all this other stuff. And I say, hey, one of our products is this shoe. I take the shoe out. The guy literally grabs the shoe out of my hand. He says, you gotta be kidding me. These are $600? Yeah.
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Adam
Show me that.
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Pat
Yeah, these are 600. I said, yeah, they're 600. Zinnias are $1,200, and they have the super foam, and they're light and they're comfortable, and they're made in the same exact factories as, you know, Hermes and Louis Vuitton and all this other stuff. So if you haven't yet picked that up, Rob, go play the clip about FLB shoes and then we'll get right into the podcast. When we set out to create a shoe that blends comfort, function, and luxury, we had the choice to make it fast. We had the choice to make it cheap. We chose neither. Instead, we chose Tuscaniro. We chose true Italian craftsmanship, each pair touched by 50 skilled hands. We chose patience, spending two years perfecting every detail. And we chose the finest quality at every step. Introducing the future looks bright collection. Not rushed, not disposable. Not ordinary, rather intentional, luxurious.
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Adam
Timeless.
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Pat
Go to vtmerch.com, place your order, get Yourself, your spouse, your husband, your son, client of yours, NFLB Future Looks Bright shoe design in Florida, 100% made in Italy. With that being said, let's get right into it. The story I want to get into is May 1st is a deadline. Can he continue war on Iran after that story pops out? Rob, I think you got a video on this. There's two of them. One of them is the Pete Hexet one. The other one is the fact that May 1st is a deadline. Let's start off with the Pete Hexeth one. Go for it.
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Vinnie
Ultimately, I would defer to the White House and White House counsel on that. However, we are in a ceasefire right now, which our understanding means the 60 day clock pauses or stops in a ceasefire. So they're not in. Yeah, it's our understanding, just so you know.
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Tom
Okay.
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Adam
Well, I do not believe the statute would support that.
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Pat
I think the 60 days runs maybe
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Adam
tomorrow and it's going to pose a
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Tom
really important legal question for the administration there. We have serious constitutional concerns and we don't want to layer those with additional statutory concerns. I yield back.
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Pat
Mr. All right. Rob, is that the clip on the war powers?
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Vinnie
Yes, sir.
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Pat
Okay, so this was a conversation that also came up in the meeting that we had yesterday. Senate Republicans are calling on Trump administration to clarify how is interpreter interpreting the 60 day clock under the War Powers act, its military campaign against Iran. The 60 day deadline, depending on who's counting, is arrive, arriving on, requiring the president to seek authorization or wind up operation Wind down operation. The first strike against Iran was February 28th. But Defense Secretary Pete offered a different view during the testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee suggesting the clock can pop, pause or stop during a ceasefire. Republicans include, some of who have flirted with supporting a War Powers resolution, appeared open to exit interpretation. It sounds like there's some wiggle room he provided there for himself, said Senator Todd Young from Indiana. We'll, we'll take a look. Whatever they send over, presumably they'll communicate that in a formal way. They have, in a very careful way followed the War Powers act so far. Tom, I believe the War Powers act is the one from Nixon in 73 that he was not supportive of that you have to go get approval for everything with Congress. So tell us why this is so important.
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Tom
So the War powers Act happened 1973. And 1973 was significant because for four years the United States had been secretly bombing the living squat out of Cambodia. From 1969 to 1973, it was called the secret bombing of Cambodia because they thought that there were Communist insurgents that were over there operating camps as supply lines, and a lot of havoc that they were flowing into Vietnam. And everybody wanted the Lyndon Johnson's war, because, remember, the Vietnam War hit full speed within a year of Johnson being president. And actually, practically before all of the national mourning over Kennedy was over, Johnson had already met with military leaders and strategists and elected to escalate what was going on in Vietnam. So this had been going on for, like, years and years and years. And finally, Pat, the US Congress is like, look, if we can't get a ceasefire, we can't get out of Vietnam. And all these people are being drafted. And I had an uncle that went and didn't come back, unfortunately, and his name's on the Vietnam War wall there in Washington. And so Congress came up, Pat, and said, okay, stop. Unless you have specific instructions and support and a vote that says, yes, we're declaring war. Just like when the President went before Congress and said, I want you to declare war on Japan after Pearl harbor, it was a very formal vote, and the Congress said, yes, we're declaring war. So it was all aligned, and Vietnam was not aligned. So all of this madness came together, Pat, in 1973, and they said, that's it. A president can go 60 days if they have to do some sort of emergency act, some bad thing happen. This is what goes on, Vinny, you know what I mean? The military has to respond and do something about something, and you can't wait for Congress navel gazing and you can't put your plans in public. So Congress said, okay, that is. It is, it is true that the President needs the pen, Pat, to act as a leader and to take steps. But after 60 days, if it's going further, you got to get our permission. And that's the War Powers act, and that's why they put it in place.
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Pat
Benny.
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Vinnie
And thank you, Pat. My question to you is, Tom, does. Does Pete Hexseth and the Department of War have to prove, with intel, behind closed doors, not in front of the public, that these threats, the nuclear plans and all that stuff is actually valid to continue it? Because I think 60 days is still a lot to just go, okay, we're going to go to war because we said this, and then we're going to go after 60 days. Do they have to prove that this is correct?
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Adam
Yeah.
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Vinnie
Is that what you're saying?
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Tom
The test is called the unavoidable military necessity.
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Vinnie
Okay.
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Tom
And there are subcommittees that are secret subcommittees. There are, I believe, there's 11 congressmen right now that will get secret briefings. Okay. From the Department of Defense. It's like the Defense Select Subcommittee or something like that, Rob, if you look it up, I think that's what it's called. I think it is called that. The Defense Select Subcommittee. And so the president, Joint chiefs, and only those people know to create, you know, these committees for the purpose of discussing it. But it's unavoidable military necessity that they have to be convinced. And so they said, okay. Then the subcommittee whispers to everybody else, we need to vote yes on this. We've seen it.
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Adam
Gotcha.
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Tom
We, Representative of Congress. We've seen this. We've talked to them. Yep, there it is. There it is. Unavoidable military necessity right there.
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Vinnie
So that's a checks and so, Tom, that's a checks and balance. Even though, I mean, it is. You know, if a president says, hey, we're gonna go to war, we're gonna go to war. But at least this, after 60 days, it's a checks and balances to go, okay, enough is enough. You guys don't have any proof or whatever, whichever way that they go.
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Tom
Right. But we live in a world where. Aha. Chewing gum in class. Impeach the bastard. Yeah, it's. It's terrible and class and it's. No, no, I'm, I'm being, I'm being ridiculous for a reason. I think you understand, Adam, is like, it's ridiculous. We want to go after our president rather than trying to get ourselves toward, you know, a more unified, you know, world. And yes, war is a serious thing, but that's what's going on. They're like, haha, it's May 1st. If you keep doing this now, we're going to come after you. I feel like now, you know, Iran could pract, you know, nuke Pakistan and the US Congress wouldn't vote, you know, to give him war powers simply because they want to catch him and they want to do these things because I honestly think that the Dem side of this doesn't care. Although I switch the same voice. I'll say, you know what? You know, I want this thing over.
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Vinnie
Yeah, you and me both.
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Pat
Yeah. But let me tell you, there's some people that are the extremists that are going to use this to say this gives Congress the power to want to impeach and hold them accountable, because they're going to do so. The games are about to start.
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Tom
Right. Big game.
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Pat
And, you know, who knows about this leverage as well? Iran knows about this Leverage on how they don't roll with this. I want to show a couple clips and Adam, I'm going to come to you. First clip I want to show you. Rob, if you want to go to hexed is what he does. These three clips, I want to show all three of them. Very important. Here's hed going back and forth with Elizabeth Warren. Go ahead, Rob.
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Vinnie
What I give, what you give, what others give. I'm not looking for money. I don't do it for money. I don't do it for profit. I don't do it for stocks. And that's part of the reason why I'm able to be effective in this job, because no one owns me, no one owns this department, no one owns this president. And we can execute for the American people. And we do.
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Pat
So that's Hexa. This one viral. Another clip is him going back and forth on a complete different point of the mantra being, you know, diversity. And look what he had to say here. Go for it. Hexa was on fire yesterday.
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Vinnie
I haven't talked about it as much in these hearings because this is a budget hearing about 1.5 trillion. That's historic and significant. But underwriting the change that we've seen in our department was a laser focus on getting back to basics. And the key word to that is merit. We had a department that was obsessed with gender ideology and race, diversity, equity and inclusion. In fact, the mantra you would hear dripping from the lips of generals with a serious look on their face was our diversity is our strength. Dumbest phrase in military history. Of course. Our diversity is not our strength. Our unity is our strength, our shared purpose, the flag we wear and who we and the Constitution we serve to defend. And when you clear that debris away, whether it's Marxist ideologies or social engineering or political correctness or quotas based on gender and diversity, you get the best of the best rising up regardless of gender, regardless of race, motivated by that environment where merit reigns. It's accountability.
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Pat
And then go to the last one, Rob. And by the way, Ro Khanna called them out and said, hey, this has cost American people XYZ amount of money because of gas prices. But this is another one here, Rob, if you want to play
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Tom
always had a merit based system.
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Pat
That's not the argument.
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Vinnie
No, we have not. Not under the Biden administration. We did not. It became social engineering, not merit. And we're fixing it quick.
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Pat
Yeah, so you say, no, it's not. And go on the bottom of the tweet, if you can see the pictures Go click on that.
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Vinnie
That's real, by the way.
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Pat
That's what we were dealing with.
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Vinnie
That's absolutely.
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Pat
That's what we were dealing with. So don't tell me all this BS on what happened. The pictures and the documentation is there. Adam, where are you at with the story?
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Adam
Look, here's what I think is going on. So the way that the War Powers act worked is this so the President can start a fight, and he can, in the case of Iran, whoop some fricking aws. But after 60 days, the Congress gets to go, no, no, no, time out, time out, time out. You can't keep fighting without permission. So what Pete Hegseth did was like, no, no, no, no. There's a loophole here. It's called we're in a ceasefire right now. We're technically not even fighting for the last couple weeks. So the 60 days doesn't even count. So there's sort of like a loophole timeout situation. It's like, this is a random reference. You'll get this. Remember in Wayne's World, the great movie, classic movie, when they were playing hockey in the street and he's like, game on. And then a car would come.
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Vinnie
Game off.
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Adam
That's what's going on here right now is there's like, no, you can't do this. Because, by the way, speaking of the war's Powers Act, Libya, when Obama did that, he did it without the congressional approval. Afghanistan, we've been doing this war in Iran for how many weeks now? About eight weeks. How long we were in Afghanistan. That wasn't a war, that was a mission trip. So the hypocrisy is kind of. Kind of out there. But the last point is this. It's amazing to me how the Democrats hate what's going on in Iran for the last eight weeks, but love the last four years of the war in Ukraine. Which one is it? They love Biden's war, but they hate Trump's war. I'm smelling a little hypocrisy there.
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Vinnie
And just FYI, in regard to P. Hexseth, you want that guy in charge of the Department of War, because at the end of the day, our military, we need. Bro, you have to have trained killers. Sorry. It's brutally honest. The mission is to protect the country from evil foreign, and they have to protect us. And that's the guy that you want. He's not worried about masks. He's not worried about.
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Pat
But I'll tell you, you're gonna expect a lot of games. It is officially Opened up for a lot of games. And FYI, if Congress, they lose the House, which the redistricting thing that happened is massive, but let's just say they control the house immediately. 2027, all you. 2027 could be the year of gridlock. It's going to be the year of gridlock. Everything is locked up in politics. Nothing's going to get done. It's going to be fight, fight, fight back to impeach, impeach, impeach. And it's going to go into 2028 presidential election, and then that's going to come next. So to me, this could lead to a lot of nasty stuff. So one of the things that happened that's massive. You see the tweet from President Obama. I brought this up to Governor Westmore, we were talking about it, and all of a sudden, you know, phone starts blowing up, that Obama just tweeted this. What did he tweet? He tweeted about, you know, how massive this is, how horrible this is for America. And when Obama says something like that, obviously the people that are, you know, on the complete opposite side, they're like, if Obama's pissed off, that means something good is going on. Rob, just go to his account. Just, just go to people. All you have to do is go to people. Yeah. So you see, I don't know if it's this one or not, Rob. We had it a couple days ago. Just. Yeah, so right there. Okay, so this is the tweet that he puts up there. Says today's Supreme Court decision effectively guts a key pillar of the Voting Rights act free and state legislator to gerrymander legislative district to systematically dilute and weaken the voting power of racial minorities, so long as they do it under the guise of partisanship rather than explicit racial bias. And it serves as just one more example of how majority of the Supreme Court seems intent on abandoning its role in ensuring equal participation in our democracy. Anyways, the good news is that we can come back and papa, papa, papa. By winning elections, by winning midterms. So he's kind of using this as that. Why is this such a big deal? If you go to the actual article, Rob, and show what it did on the redistricting side, which is absolutely massive. Absolutely massive. Supreme Court ruled for it. So what do you mean Supreme Court ruled for. Supreme Court ruled for it 6 to 3. And this supreme Court that ruled for it allows if this goes through. Okay, six, three. Louisiana's 2024 mid decade redistricting that produce a serpentine district represented by this Calling it an illegal racial gerrymandering, while Obama argued the decision weakened a Voting Rights Act. Do you have that image, Rob of shows all the states of what the plus minus is? You know the one that we showed a couple days ago, the Northeast. Oh, my God. No, not the Northeast. The Southeast, I think is. Is the one. Yeah, I. We just showed it a couple days ago. When you see. Vinny, have you seen this?
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Vinnie
I have. I have.
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Pat
It is un. Believable. We just showed that two days ago.
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Vinnie
The one that saw the middle, it was like all the way in the middle. It was cut out.
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Pat
I think it's a first row. Yeah. If you zoom into this one. Okay. Is it an image or is it a video? See if you can zoom in. There's one of them. We showed it a couple days ago. Anyways, let me just read this and then Rob will find it on. Why this? Well, Tom, I'll come to you here. Why is this such a big deal, Rob? I'll find it and send it to you.
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Tom
Right? It's such a big deal because something that was good becomes bad in the hands of government. Like once upon a time, your money was good. As soon as they get it, they spend it twice and put you in debt. So what happened was once upon a time they had the Voting Rights act because they wanted to make sure that all people everywhere had the right to vote. Citizens had the right to vote. This is a good thing. But then what they did. And by the way, this has got fingerprints all the way of the Southern Poverty Law center, ladies and gentlemen. They all said, well, we need a district here that's more like this. We need a district here that's more like that. So they started drawing lines, Pat, to create. Well, we think it would be more fair. Well, wait, who's making the decision? We. We who? We are. And Democrats started drawing odd districts rather than territorial districts. Now, each district needs to have a certain number of citizens in it. So most people said, well, why don't we draw these districts so that they have the number of citizens and make them reasonably sized. Why reasonably sized? Well, so that Vinnie as congressman, could serve all the people in a given area and that it rains on them the same way, the economy is the same way, and Vinnie can serve them. Instead, they made these bizarre districts. And I'll let you get to this one quick.
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Pat
This right here. So if you look at this, Vinny, okay, this is current and that's what's going to happen on the right after the Supreme Court ruling. So you see the blue, they call the bottom left, the one on Louisiana, all the way to the left. You see that, how it looks like?
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Vinnie
Yeah, that's.
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Pat
They call that the snake. Yes. So this was racial gerrymandering is what they call it. There's partisan, there's bipartisan, there's racial. They're calling this. The Supreme Court ruled that this is racial gerrymandering. Democrats held 24 seats in these states. Now, after what just passed, Vinnie, Republicans gained 12 more seats, including nine without Section 2 of the VRA. Florida alone picked up four new seats with this new ruling. So the reason why this is very important. Even if they win the midterms, it may not matter because you're going to have to beat out more than these seats. That's what a lot of people. That's what caused Barack Obama to get out of bed to tweet. He doesn't tweet like Trump tweets. No, his tweets are once a week. He's a scheduled guy. He's got. He's got stuff to do, very busy. So, you know, the Republicans here celebrating, saying this could be a massive thing. So now the Democrats are sitting around saying, what are we going to do next? What, what can we do ourselves? This is the challenge. Tom, go ahead, continue.
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Tom
Now Kathy Hochul speaks up. Oh, my gosh, my gosh, my gosh. But then she gets busted. Rob, show the map. Kathy Hochul helped draw this one in New York. Yeah, that really makes it easy for a House of Representatives to serve the people. You go all the way down Manhattan, cross the bridge, go on the backside of here, go around here, make a left, and then go down to another group of people. This is gerrymandering, where they're trying to determine the outcome. Right. Because when natural, when just natural boundaries of cities, areas, states were not to their preferences, then what do they want to put? They want to put dei. What do they want to put? They want to put the gerrymandering. And then remember, rule one, accuse the
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Vinnie
other guy of what you're doing, of what you're guilty of.
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Tom
Correct. To. To cover up the fact that you're doing it anyway. And that's what happened here. And so now the gerrymandering, you know, of these bizarre district goes back. Now, Pat, there's still gonna be arguments of, wait, should that Square district be 2 miles to the, to the west of town or 2 miles to the east? So there's still gonna be arguments on this, but when you get more natural looking districts, look at what happens. The south is inherently conservative. The Northeast will still be liberal. But you won't have this bizarre here, because ask yourself a question. Take a look at that. Adam, do you think that if you were the congressman in New York, Adam, do you think that map there that he just showed, does that make it easy for you to serve the people? How do you serve the people?
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Pat
It's a long walk. And then you got to make a right, left, and you got. It's like. It's a very complicated.
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Vinnie
But all this, all this, all this because this party has zero leaders, Pat, with any policy. So these are the little games that they have to play. And notice how now the Republicans have to play the game back at them. But why don't you have a good freaking leader, have somebody to step up with policies? This doesn't even have to. You don't have to worry about this. Tom, does that make sense?
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Pat
Adam, your thoughts?
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Adam
Look, at the end of the day, the Supreme Court basically said, yeah, enough with the racism. Yeah, you're drawing districts and gerrymandering and redistricting and everything you're doing based on race. I think specifically black people. That's what they're doing now. It'd be a very weird situation if everybody in the country had to robotically vote based on their race. The whites vote for this. The blacks vote for this. Latinos vote for this. The Jews, they're confused. They don't know where to go these days. But you know who the. You know who's loving this right now? One group. The NFL. Why? Because the NFL has been telling us for years that we need to end racism. It's in all the end zones. The NBA also, they're doing the bubble, the Social Justice Warriors. Guys, we're ending racism methodically. So now the whole conversation is going to be about midterms. You remember four years ago, they were talking about the big red wave that was supposedly coming, and it was like a red teardrop because it didn't happen. Now, maybe, just maybe, PBD is this alleged blue wave that's coming might not come at all. So we'll see here. At the end of the day, it comes down to he who controls the map, controls the power. And I think Republicans just said, checkmate. Here's what we got from the Supreme Court.
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Pat
You know what I would say? He who controls the Supreme Court controls a lot of things.
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Adam
Yeah.
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Pat
Six to three. Are you flipping kidding me?
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Adam
You said that 2020.
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Pat
I said, the most important thing that has happened is these guys is the fact that it's Six to three. And one of them is not well right now. And it's on the left. So he maybe even be replaced. That it could end up being a 72 before he's done with. That's a very, very important.
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Adam
Who's on the left?
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Pat
Who was the one that was not doing well? It's the gentleman that's 73, 74 years old. He had a hospital scare recently.
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Adam
Alito. No, but he's. No, he's. He's full on conservative.
- [30:02]
Pat
Not Alito. No, not Alito Was another one that wasn't doing well.
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Adam
Clarence Thomas.
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Pat
He's the most conservative. No, no, not conservative. It was somebody on the rbg. I don't. I don't know who it is. Rbg. RBG is.
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Adam
Rest your soul.
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Tom
I don't.
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Adam
I don't recall that. I think the three on the left are some justice with a three record deal. You know, dodgy Brown, Jackson.
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Pat
This is a very, very, very big situation here. Very, very big situation. Oh, he was a conservative. Alito was on the conservative side. I thought it was somebody on the other side.
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Adam
Sometimes they vote.
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Pat
Even with that goes, they're still going to maintain a 6 3. This is probably more than being a president. This control here with Supreme Court is massive. Because if this was the other way around, six to three, what do you think happens right now? This racial gerrymandering continues and it's the whole D. I conversations, fairness, all this stuff. So anyways, this is a good thing. This is a good thing. Not for everybody, but this is a good thing for a lot of people. The next one I want to get into is Comey. So while all this stuff is going on, next thing, you know, story comes out. Even Vinnie was like, hopeful. It's like, wait a minute, is there actually going to be accountability? So you mean to tell me Comey went and, you know, took him, surrenders himself to the police? Yes. That did not happen.
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Vinnie
Yes.
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Pat
Which clip do you have, Rob, with James Comey going out there? So I have surrendering to the police.
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Tom
I have CNN reporting that he turned himself into police.
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Pat
Okay, go for it. Play that one.
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Tom
First major breaking news on the new indictment against former FBI director James Comey. We've learned that Comey has just surrendered himself at a federal courthouse in Virginia, facing a new set of charges. All because of a social media post.
- [31:39]
Pat
Because of.
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Tom
Not like, yeah, Comey posted this photo to Instagram last year showing shells on a beach spelling out 8647.
- [31:49]
Pat
That's right.
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Vinnie
86 is slang for getting rid of or cutting someone off at a bar. Trump, of course, is the 47th president.
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Tom
Prosecutors say that is a clear threat. Comey, though, says he is innocent. Well, they're back this time about a picture of seashells on a North Carolina beach a year ago.
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Pat
And this won't be the end of it. But nothing has changed with me. I'm still innocent, I'm still not afraid,
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Tom
and I still believe in the independent federal judiciary. So let's go.
- [32:23]
Pat
Oh, pause it right there. And then Trump had a couple thoughts to say about it. Rob, if I'm not mistaken, you have that one as well. Do you really think your life is in danger?
- [32:32]
Tom
Probably.
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Pat
I don't know, you know, based on, based on what I'm seeing out there. Yeah. The people like Comey have created tremendous danger, I think, for politicians and others.
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Tom
He, you know, Comey is a dirty cop. He's a very dirty cop.
- [32:49]
Pat
He cheated on the elections. He tried to help Hillary Clinton.
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Tom
As you know, he dismissed a lot of things that he should have proceeded with. I wasn't involved, but he should have proceeded with.
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Pat
No, he's a dirty cop, he's a crooked man. Yeah.
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Vinnie
So just, I want to let everybody know. And Rob, I sent you some stuff on Slack and also I'm going to show you something. I got into another argument that's still happening right now with ChatGPT. It's in complete denial that Comey was indicted. And I'll do an exercise with Rob here in a second, guys, for everybody that's saying they're going after Comey, his political do me a favor, shut up, okay? A grand jury indicted Comey, Okay? Not the Department of Justice. The grand jury sits in the courtroom and they hear evidence and came back with a two count indictment. And his indictments are, number one, knowingly and willfully making a threat to take the life and to inflict bodily harm on the President. And second, knowingly and willfully transmitting an interstate commerce, a threat to kill the President. That means you're on social media, you're out there and you're putting it out in the world now. And Rob, these are the links that I sent you. The DOJ is now seizing, pushing to seize Comey's profits from his crime book, as prosecutors believe part of the reason he posted a threat on Trump's life was to drum up book sales. The forfeit action includes. And Comey's indictment points out that Comey posted the threat five days before the book release, which was May 2, 2025. His IG shows 8647 was surrounded by the book promo post. And the indictment demands Comey forfeits to the United States any property, real or personal, which constitutes or is derived from proceeds traceable to set offense. And Pat, this is his book. This is his Comey. He's bragging about the book. And look at what's in the book. It says former director Comey reunites with propagandists of his first legal thrillers for a strongest outline yet. The U.S. attorney Carmen Garcia is trying to take down Samuel Buchanan. This is in the book. A far right media personality with a popular podcast vilifying those he thinks are destroying America. Ready for this? This is the part. Intellectuals, immigrants and people of color. Here we go. Garcia believes Buchanan went far beyond the protection of the first amendment when he signed, signaled out his enemies by name and suggested something should be done about them. His fans have obliged killing or grievously injuring some of his foes. Tell me that's not a freaking dog whistle about his stupid book and him trying to call it out. And let's all, let's just all take a moment. Stop playing this game, Pat, because I keep hearing it from the left. No, he just stumbled. You believe he stumbled upon shells that said 86, 47? You're lying to yourself. And do me a favor, Rob. Go to ChatGPT. I hope yours is different than mine because mine won't do it. Go to ChatGPT. I put. Was James Comey indicted on two counts? Let's see if it does it because it's not doing it for me. Watch this, Pat. Let's see. I think it might be. It might do it for. It's doing it for you. It's not doing it for me. Let's see. Oh, yes. Okay, mine. And I'll show you right now. Pat, just so I want to prove to everybody out here, mine says what? My chat GPT is saying what?
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Pat
No, James Comey has not been indicted. There's no confirmed charge from the U.S. department of justice, no court ruling, and that's.
- [36:06]
Vinnie
I've been going back with this thing for hours. Did you see the argument? But I want. And I, and I'll admit it, I didn't have that much hope, but I didn't give it up. This is what I'm talking about. You, you, you, you do the crime, you're going to pay the price. And let's see, let's see if it sticks because again, he's indicted. They're gonna. It's gonna go in front of the grand jury. The case is going to be heard, but I'm happy. Pat. Something is happening. Was he on the auto pan? Was he pardoned? James Comey, Was he.
- [36:36]
Pat
Check to see if Comey was pardoned.
- [36:37]
Vinnie
Was he pardoned? Rob? That's a. That's something I want to. I don't think he was. I know Fauci was, and we'll get into that story. No, he wasn't. Okay, so this is a good sign. And this proves what Todd Blanche is doing, Pat. Todd Blanche. You have to give this guy credit. In less than a month, this is happening. SPLC is happening for the funding of the kkk. Fauci's advisor. We're going to get to the COVID Somalia daycare. He is not. Brennan's under investigation. The January 6th liar, Cassidy Hutchinson's getting investigated. He's not playing games, and I absolutely love it.
- [37:08]
Pat
And this proves, I think, that Brennan investigation. They dropped.
- [37:10]
Vinnie
They did.
- [37:11]
Pat
Yeah.
- [37:11]
Vinnie
Dropped immediately, but in less than a month.
- [37:13]
Pat
But he's doing it.
- [37:14]
Vinnie
Look what he's doing.
- [37:15]
Pat
Yeah. It's just Todd Bland speaking. Go for it.
- [37:18]
Tom
The Justice Department, in this filing today,
- [37:21]
Pat
also issued an arrest warrant for Mr. Comey. Is it your belief that he is a continued public threat and is there a request also for detention that you
- [37:33]
Adam
anticipate will be made in this case?
- [37:36]
Tom
So the Department of Justice does not issue arrest warrants. Grand juries do. And so the grand jury returned an indictment and arrest warrant. I expect that there will be communication with Mr. Comey's counsel, and we'll go from there. This case will proceed like. Like hundreds of others do every year. There will be some sort of arraignment set by the judge or assigned to the magistrate judge. And when that happens, you'll know about it.
- [38:03]
Pat
This is big, by the way. You should be very, very real. Tom.
- [38:06]
Tom
So, first of all, I think it's still shocking that reporters that could do basic research about process just like we do, don't do that. And they attempt to ask these gotcha questions, or they do the research and they still ask a gotcha question. So the reporting just disappoints me yet again. It doesn't surprise me. But the other side of it here is there's two things that just happened in the past week that I connected the dots on, and it really bothers me. And I was talking to one of my daughters about it last night. The first is call Thomas Allen puts a manifesto out, and then everybody puts on Twitter. I mean, everybody, many significant people, including Obama himself, put out on Twitter. Gosh. We don't understand what the motive is. We don't understand what's going on.
- [38:48]
Pat
Although.
- [38:49]
Vinnie
Although, we don't.
- [38:50]
Tom
Although. Right. We don't have that. And, you know, we turned down the rhetoric. And finally, a few people, like, you know, Van Jones. I appreciated what Van Jones said on cnn. He was measured. He kind of. Did you see this, Pat? He kind of slowed down a bit, and he said, I'm a little worried about what's happening here. We played it, and some people are there thinking about it, but you've got. Oh, we don't know what this is. When the top law enforcement officer in the United States at the time now goes walking a Beach in 8647, that's a call. That's an encouragement. That's an angry statement that he's putting out there. And we wonder how Cole, Thomas Allen and others feel enabled or feel that they're validated. And he writes in there about how he's do. Who he's apologizing for and who he's doing it for. And to me, you can't have it both ways. You can't say. I got no idea how a guy, like, told Thomas Allen gets radicalized. Well, he wasn't radicalized by a particular, you know, group of people that he was hanging out with. It was just. He reached his breaking point. But what's he reading every day? What's he looking at? Maybe a leader doing things like this. I mean, it just. It disgusts me, Pat, because I look at it that way. Now, the one thing I will say about Comey, I think this was strategic by Comey. If you go in and surrender, I don't think you get the perp walk. And what he didn't want was somebody to come to his door and knock on the door, Pat, and say, hey, James, you got to come with us. You know, we got to go do the. We got to process you. Yep. Okay. And get in the back of a car. I think he was being strategic about it. Didn't want that. Didn't want to have all those pictures on social media and everything. So he goes in and says, hey, guys, I'm surrendering here. Let's do the processing. So it's done more quietly. I think it was strategic because he's trying to keep it out of the public eye.
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Vinnie
Yeah.
- [40:47]
Tom
And then he goes home and makes his little cute, little, little video that he puts out.
- [40:51]
Vinnie
And he's been by the. Let's not forget who James Comey is, Pat. He's Been around since the Hillary and then changing the charging doc, all the stuff that they did, Russia, collusion, everything, this is. He's not. Trump fired this guy.
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Adam
Well, Adam, guys, I gotta be honest with you. I think you're overblowing this big time.
- [41:07]
Vinnie
Really.
- [41:07]
Adam
I think you're making much ado about nothing. You know who's loving this more than anybody right now? James Comey. Because here's a guy who nobody's thought of in years and all of a sudden he's the most relevant guy in politics. James Comey. So Trump doesn't like him now, but I remember one thing. In about 2016, a couple weeks before the election, you know who hated him more than anybody? Hillary Clinton. Because a lot of people blame Trump winning and Hillary losing on one person. James Comey. Cuz he came out there, I wanna say, 10 days before the election, talking about Hillary's emails. Hillary's emails, Hillary's emails. Came out there, needlessly did a press conference. He's like, all right, guys, we're not charging Hillary, but damn, she's sloppy. Eleven days before the presidential election, you could honestly, honestly say that James Comey helped Trump get elected. Much like the Hunter Biden laptop New York Post hole bearing the story helped Biden get elected. So be careful what you wish for. I don't think anything's gonna happen. I don't think. Listen, two things can be true at once. I think James Comey's playing stupid. I don't know what 8647 means. I just saw it on the seashells.
- [42:21]
Pat
I have no clue.
- [42:22]
Adam
Although I'm the greatest sleuth in the world, FBI director. I don't know what that means.
- [42:27]
Pat
Yeah, okay, but at the same time, I think he's playing dumb on all this. I think all of that stuff, all of that stuff that they talk about when they act. I saw Lena Haba, rock star on the View and they were talking, they're going back and forth and saying 86 doesn't mean that. Have you looked at the dictionary, Sonny host? And she's like, you know exactly what 8647 means. Like, don't act like you don't know. Well, what's the proof of it? Three assassination attempts.
- [42:50]
Vinnie
Yep.
- [42:51]
Pat
What else do you want to say by the clip came up about this? Cole Thomas Allen. Tomas Allen. I want to say the H isn't there. Cole Tomas Allen. Vinny just showed me. Rob, do you want to show this clip a couple things? When you think about security, is this the one or zooms in. How the hell does this guy go in? And Vinny says it. I'm gonna give credit to Vinnie. Dog is following him, Vinny.
- [43:13]
Vinnie
Yup.
- [43:13]
Pat
And you told me. And this is a real clip. The dog follows him in, the guys with a shotgun. Then watch what happens seconds later.
- [43:20]
Adam
That's a canine watch.
- [43:21]
Pat
Top left corner.
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Vinnie
So the canine's in there. Something's obviously hitting, by the way. That's why my brother does this for a living. My brother trains freaking canine dogs.
- [43:29]
Pat
This watch.
- [43:29]
Vinnie
The dog is. Is marked like something's happening. And then he's talking to the shooter,
- [43:33]
Pat
and he walks away.
- [43:34]
Vinnie
And then he runs out with a shot.
- [43:35]
Pat
Comes out with the shot.
- [43:37]
Tom
Oh, wow.
- [43:38]
Vinnie
Is that crazy, by the way.
- [43:40]
Pat
Go back 10 seconds.
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Adam
Look at this.
- [43:42]
Pat
Go back 10 seconds. Just watch this. Go ahead. Keep playing it.
- [43:46]
Vinnie
So the dog's in there. Obviously something's up. The dog's on him right there.
- [43:50]
Pat
Pause it right there. And pause and see what everybody is looking at. So the two on the wall, they're looking to the left. The guy on the right, he's scoping around. The two cops are taking down the metal detector. The one in the top left with the blue, he's watching Instagram reels. The one on the bottom left, the one on the bottom left could be
- [44:10]
Adam
watching the BBD podcast.
- [44:11]
Pat
And so keep. Keep it going. They're doing their jobs. But then watch what happens. Suddenly they're all looking to the left. This is, like, just bad timing.
- [44:18]
Vinnie
Yeah.
- [44:18]
Pat
You'll see, because that guy to the right starts looking to his left, and then he sees that person moving. And the timing boom. And then the guy.
- [44:26]
Adam
Did he shoot him?
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Vinnie
He shot.
- [44:28]
Pat
And then they come out of the door. Look at the top right door opens up with two people coming in. Ready? She looks ready.
- [44:34]
Vinnie
She's ready to go.
- [44:35]
Pat
Okay. But it's like this.
- [44:37]
Vinnie
Wow, he's fast.
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Tom
But you want to see something else here that was very interesting I was watching last night. Back this up, back this up. People are saying that the law enforcement were covering something up, that the cop in the lower left actually shot and hit the cop above the metal detector in the chest on the bulletproof vest. He didn't hit the suspect if you look down low. Because watch what happens to the cop on the upper wall.
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Pat
Fast forward 10 seconds.
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Tom
Slow, slow, slow.
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Vinnie
Yeah. Go, Robbie.
- [45:07]
Tom
Watch the cop on the upper wall. The lower copy fires. And the middle cop on the wall there drops like a sack of potatoes.
- [45:14]
Vinnie
Oh, yeah. In the middle of the top, behind the.
- [45:16]
Tom
And this guy comes back. Are you okay? You okay, see, in the vest. You hit him in the vest. He's trying to breathe.
- [45:22]
Vinnie
She. I think it's a she.
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Pat
You don't have to say sack of potatoes. He fell, she fell.
- [45:27]
Vinnie
I think it was a she fell.
- [45:27]
Pat
She fell because she got shot. Yeah. So playback speed here decreased. But when you think about. This is where people start questioning the
- [45:35]
Vinnie
failure of security, bro.
- [45:36]
Adam
Yeah, but I, I listen, I'm just going to push back on this a little bit because I've been in this building. Do you know how close he was to the president here when he ran here? He was on a different floor.
- [45:45]
Vinnie
No, you could hear the shooting.
- [45:47]
Adam
You could hear it. Of course. Just like we heard a shooting half a block away. He was on a different floor. So this guy's plan was to run past screening clearance. All these guns go down the stairs. That's where allegedly Wolf Blitzer saw him. And he had no shoe on or something like that. So as much as this guy had a plan, which was ridiculous, the fact
- [46:07]
Pat
that walk in the hallways of the hotel.
- [46:09]
Tom
Yeah, yeah.
- [46:09]
Adam
He wasn't anywhere close to the president.
- [46:12]
Vinnie
Not even close to the president. But if you think about it, look how many people are around a guy that's wearing all black, is carrying something, goes in a room. The dog is triggering on him. Look at this guy. That's him in his room, bro. He has guns and stuff.
- [46:24]
Pat
That's a high IQ Walk right there. Look at that.
- [46:25]
Tom
Yeah.
- [46:26]
Pat
Very high iq.
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Adam
He took a selfie before.
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Vinnie
Oh, by the way, this was all a setup up. All the. All the. All the theorists out there. This is all fake. This isn't real. By the. Oh, yeah. Coming in the gym, people. People were saying that this was staged. This is staged.
- [46:40]
Adam
What was.
- [46:41]
Vinnie
This whole thing was staged. Adam.
- [46:43]
Adam
I don't. I don't know. I'm not following what you're saying.
- [46:45]
Pat
There are people on social.
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Adam
You already lost me.
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Vinnie
Left.
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Adam
You already lost me.
- [46:50]
Pat
This was a setup. This is not real.
- [46:52]
Vinnie
Left and right.
- [46:53]
Pat
Staged event.
- [46:54]
Vinnie
Because. Because he wants to build the ballroom. This guy, this California guy. Yeah.
- [47:01]
Pat
You know why? So to me, a part of it is a part of this. When you look at this is, you know, even when we have security and we have security with us all the time, and I watch them, my guys, I'll watch them and I'll say, like, if we go to a place and when they're alert, they're alert, but when they're not, I'm like, what would I do? What would a bad guy do right now when they're not alert. You have plenty of time. If you think about it, you have plenty of time. The amount of alertness you need today, it's like immediate alertness. And the biggest distraction cops and Secret Service have today that they didn't have 20 years ago is what their phone. I go to church. Honestly, I go to every Sunday. When we go to this church, won't say which one it is. When we go to this church, the same female cop is standing to the right Vinnie. The entire time. She just looks at her phone and I say to myself, what. What purpose are you serving?
- [48:04]
Vinnie
None. Nothing?
- [48:05]
Pat
No, go home. I wanted to go to the pastor and say, fire this person. Bring somebody else in. Ask them to take their freaking phones away while they're working. And you're paying them. Yeah. Because they literally stand there and they're just like this while their security on Sunday services coming in and out. And then what are you going to happen? And you see the cameras.
- [48:26]
Vinnie
Yep.
- [48:26]
Pat
And I walk with Tico and Dylan, like, look at this. Why are you even here? I want to go tell her and say, can I ask you a question? Like, what are you doing here? Yeah, what are you doing here? But I'm not the person that's paying them. So sometimes, you know, with the distractions that we have. One funny moment with this whole thing is this lady here asks him, would you be wearing a bulletproof vest?
- [48:44]
Vinnie
This is brilliant.
- [48:45]
Pat
Okay. And Trump, of course comedian, his answer, he was ready, go ahead.
- [48:49]
Tom
Tom is there, talks about you potentially wearing a bulletproof vest. Moving forward, given you have now been shot at. I don't know if I can handle
- [48:57]
Pat
looking 20 pounds heavier.
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Adam
That's good, man. That's self deprecation.
- [49:05]
Vinnie
You got to be honest.
- [49:07]
Pat
Some of these guys kind of cute.
- [49:11]
Vinnie
He's kind of cute, by the way.
- [49:12]
Adam
I. I have to.
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Vinnie
Adam probably knows I have to agree with you.
- [49:14]
Adam
You, what you're saying on the cell phone thing, I mean, how many rules are we seeing established in schools? Kids got to be off the cell phone, Right? Dinners. We do dinners. Cell phones off. You know, when. Shabbat dinner. If you ever do that. No cell phones. Just being together. One thing that I agree with you is if you're working and you're protecting the president. Get off Instagram, dude. Get off TikTok. Especially be in the moment. I think that's what you're saying.
- [49:39]
Pat
Oh, that. That's exactly what I'm saying. Like for instance, when we're at the office and we're. I'm doing meetings and they're Sitting on the other side and doing their thing. A problem with that. But when we're out in premises, I want you alert.
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Adam
Yeah.
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Pat
24. Seven alert. No phones, nothing. And so, I mean, it's not like they were looking at their phones there anyway. I'm not making any point with that. All I'm saying is there's a lot of distractions today, and you have to be alert on everything that you're doing. You're in a hotel where the public's walking around. At any point, any. Anybody can do something. The dog walks in and the guy's pulling back because, like, the dog is knowing something. And then. But you haven't even seen the video before. He goes in with a bag.
- [50:17]
Vinnie
Yes.
- [50:18]
Pat
Like, to hide that, you have to be in a bag. So he's in there, split second, turns around, and then comes out.
- [50:24]
Vinnie
Boom.
- [50:24]
Pat
He walked in with a bag. What the hell you think is in a bag? This big. Golf clubs.
- [50:28]
Vinnie
Yeah.
- [50:29]
Pat
You know, president plays golf. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Not this one, the other one.
- [50:33]
Tom
Maybe it's a gift.
- [50:34]
Pat
Yeah, go. Go up to the top clip. Wrap the bottom one. Go one down right there. See if it shows that he walks in first.
- [50:42]
Vinnie
Well, he's carrying a bag. He's carrying a gun. Shotgun. Yeah, a shotgun.
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Pat
And you don't think. What's in there? Like, you don't think that sounds a little bit. Looks a little bit. So I don't know. I think, you know, the president is a class act when he says they're doing their best, they're doing this, they're doing that. He needs to say that. The rest of the world needs to say, what the hell are you guys doing? When it comes down to having a guy like that coming through and he's able to do what he's doing. So I don't know. I think. I think security measures need to always be ready. So this goes back to Comey. Hey, Comey, you don't think that Seashell 8647 is a big deal? You lose credibility when it happens at a moment like this. So, by the way, the grand jury, the timing of it was perfect. The perfect timing grand jury, when do they do it? After the third attempt. Make the argument. Make the argument. Perfect timing on that. Let me get to the next thing
- [51:31]
Adam
happen with Comey, though. I don't think. Yeah, I don't think.
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Pat
By the way, that book that you talked about, you know that book you talked about, you said they're going to have to pay the money back for the book. How many copies do you think that
- [51:39]
Adam
book sold way more since he found
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Pat
that 8,647, 20,000 copies.
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Vinnie
That's it.
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Pat
His, his memoir sold 6, 700,000 copies.
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Adam
Oh, really?
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Pat
That's a horrible book. That book only sold 20,000 copies.
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Vinnie
Good for him.
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Pat
Even with 8,647. Nobody cared to read this book.
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Vinnie
Wow. Okay.
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Pat
Nobody cared to read this book. You would think the director of FBI, who is that famous after 8647, the book would have done more than 20,000 copies. Go pull it up. 20,000 to 60,000 copies. It was his least performing book. So it's like, it's not like they're going to collect that much money back. Go ahead and pull up the sales. It's a couple hundred thousand dollars. It didn't change his life. But those types of behavior it impacts. What do I think is going to happen to him? Probably not much. Not much is going to happen to him. But I do think even this as they go through, do I think there's a 20% chance of having something that he has to do. I think there is and I like that. I like the 20.
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Adam
Community service. Have him go pick up trash on the beach.
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Pat
Collect all these seashells on the beach.
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Adam
Exactly.
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Pat
Yeah. I like that. Let's get to the next story. Next story. Here is again, accountability. Since we're on the topic of accountability, Fauci's business partner. Rob, what page is that story with Fauci's business partner?
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Adam
I don't believe it's in the prep,
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Tom
but I'll grab you this.
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Pat
You want to pull that up because we just talked about it a couple days ago.
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Vinnie
David Morenz, Pat, he's a former Senior advisor to Mr. Fauci.
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Pat
Yeah. So this comes out. Pressure on the DOJ to prosecute Anthony Fauci growing after advisor indicted. With days left to charge Covid lies. If you go a little bit long, read this to. Indictment of Dr. Anthony Fauci's former adviser David More. Tuesday revived calls for the Justice Department to prosecute Fauci himself for allegedly lying to Congress about funding risky research in China before COVID 19. Just two weeks remain before the five year deal legal deadline on May 11th to indict Fauci for denying under oath that he funded gain of function experiments that modified bat coronavirus in the same city where the pandemic started. More than 78 years old, was charged with one count of conspiracy, two counts of destruction, alteration or falsification of records in federal investigation and two counts of concealment, removal or mutilation of records relating to The Origins of COVID 19. He faces up to 51 years in prison. 51 years in prison. Vinnie, I.
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Vinnie
And again, giving credit when you said, don't give up hope, Todd Blanche is in there and all these things are happening, Pat. Like, by the way, so he served from 2006 to 2022. That's, that's pretty freaking long. So what? He's accused of hiding and altering records during federal investigations. It's a COVID 19 by then. There's a bunch of emails, Rob. There's some screenshots of what they're actually doing. Suppressed alternative theories about how the pandemic started. When you hear that, when you hear these people, these are the senior advisors to everything Covid. Tom, if you're suppressing the alternate theories, you know what you're trying to do? You're trying to cover up that this thing came out of a lab that we own that they're running in freaking Wuhan China. Okay? So then when people like me say, you know what, I think this thing might have been planned, I think this thing might have been a leak for them to destroy the presidency. Because I don't care who's in charge tomorrow, if a pandemic hits during your presidency, you're not going to win the reelection period. End of story. Okay? And I love that you said that, Pat. His charges are conspiracy against the United States, full stop. They conspired destruction, alteration and falsification, of records, concealment or removal of records, and aiding and abetting. Okay? And then this is the alleged indictment. His co conspirators deliberately concealed all the information, Pat. And what's beautiful about this, what's beautiful, Rand Paul laid it out perfectly. He said Fauci lied to Congress. Felony destroyed federal records. Felony. Advising others to destroy federal records is a felony. Fauci did all three. Okay? And if his advisor is indicted, that means he should be going down. Because May 11, Pat, is a five year statute of limitation. Deadline for Fauci. Even though Fauci. And this is how Trump is playing it beautifully with the timing. And nobody's been talking about the auto pen that he reversed his May. May 11th is the. Is the deadline. But Fauci is pardoned. This is where Trump is going to go, by the way. They're all null and void. Get him, indict him.
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Pat
And that after May 11th.
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Vinnie
After. It has to happen before May 11th.
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Pat
Happen before May, it has to happen the deadlines. Or else it's gone.
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Vinnie
Or else it's gone. But I'm telling you right now, I don't want anything for my birthday. I don't want anything for Christmas. I don't want any gifts ever. I want this guy because I think Dr. Fauci, Tony Fauci is in charge, is responsible, Pat, for the millions of people that are gone, that have died, that lost their grandparents, that couldn't go to funerals, that couldn't see their loved ones dying in front of them. All the stuff that they put us through, the turbo cancer that's happening right now, that's exploding the young children in this freaking country that have myocarditis because of the decisions on purpose, because of him. There has to be accountability. And he's the one. He's the head of the snake and it has to be him, Pat. And I pray that it happens.
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Pat
Rob, what was that email you just pulled up a minute ago from 2021?
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Tom
This is from David Morenz where he wrote. And I'll read it this way.
- [56:52]
Pat
Go ahead, Tom.
- [56:53]
Tom
You are right. I need to be more careful. So he wrote this to someone. However, as I mentioned before, I learned from our Freedom of Information act lady here. So someone that was in their office that counseled them on that how to make emails disappear. After I am now.
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Pat
Thank you for being a moron.
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Tom
After I am foia. What FOIA mean is after I am served with the Freedom of Information act disclosure but before the search stock. So I think starts. So I think we're safe.
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Pat
Wow.
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Tom
Plus I deleted most of those emails after sending them to Gmail, so. So the FBI could say get his Gmail account, call Google, subpoena the whole thing with have them just send the whole cloud index over here. This clearly shows the conspiracy and the destruction of records and the rerouting now to suppress alternative, you know, theories. Vinnie, that's not the crime. And I really don't care about that because he said because there could be 20 theories about how a medication works or doesn't work and the theories are in research. What I love is the conspiracy to. And I was waiting for them to use the obstruction of justice. Where's the obstruction of justice clause? But destroying records, rerouting and then this smoking gun here. This is great. I'm just glad this guy, if he's convicted, is going to be in. In prison until his 129th birthday because that's 51 years from today.
- [58:18]
Vinnie
But Tommy, do you feel where I'm coming from? If you are actively, if you're in charge of this whole thing, you're the head of NIH and all these people.
- [58:24]
Tom
No, I'm with you 1000%. I just don'. Care about all of the headlines are trying to say suppressing theories. I love the fact that destruction, rerouting all of these things, they're catching all of the felony things of the actual acts.
- [58:37]
Vinnie
But yeah, but Tommy, when they're altering and he's lying about the origins, you know what that's making people do? Oh, it came from a bat that makes everybody look over here. Tommy, when we were saying, wait a minute, this came out of a lab that we paid, that we started under Obama. So the fact that they were doing that, Tom, makes me think, oh, then you guys might be in on it. This. Tom, think about it. This virus leaked in a country that we were basically at war with. Trump was holding China accountable for trade. And when they couldn't fight us on the on the battlefield, you know what they do, Tom? Oh, this leaked. This came out of a lab and it destroyed the world. And when people go, you think China, you think Xi Jinping. Yes, I do, because I'm a Christian and I believe that evil. Ephesians, chapter 6, verse 12. It's not flesh and blood, it's evil. And these are what these people do.
- [59:23]
Tom
Tommy, I'm as revved up as you are, but I can't prove what he knew or didn't know. But I love the fact that there are several counts here. Talking about what he destroyed and didn't destroy and that email there. So you look at what he was doing, and I can't prove that he was dirty on that. I suspect it. I think it. There's allegations up the wazoo all the way to Wuhan. But guess what? That's the hard path to prove.
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Vinnie
I.
- [59:47]
Tom
But why are you destroying all this? So you find him guilty of the destruction, find him guilty of the obstruction, find him guilty of redirecting, and then find him guilty of his own fricking smoking gun with his own email. Then guess what? All of that. Why was he doing it? Well, the answer was he was covering up all this. He was covering up all that. But guess what? This proves that. But this hopefully incarcerates this guy for a long time.
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Vinnie
Fauci to follow.
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Tom
And then you don't have to go through the longer path of what did he know, when did he know it? Which is a really difficult legal test.
- [60:22]
Pat
Adam.
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Adam
I believe that we need accountability for sure. And the number one entity or person or thing that needs accountability, it ain't Fauci, it's China. How quickly did we forget about that? This started with the Wuhan lab, the Wuhan flu. Like, I get that we're dealing with tariffs. I get we're dealing with asymmetrical warfare. We got, you know, a cold war going on with China. We have debates to vet tariffs. What's going on? Listen, I get that, why people are mad with Fauci. I get it. But I don't wake up every day thinking about Fauci. I do wake up every day thinking about America's well being in the world and our global hegemony and who's coming after us. China. And what has China done to be found accountable? You know the whole, that, remember that whole situation when Jon Stewart went on Colbert and he's like, you mean to tell me that it was a pangolin mixed with the penguin at that. He's like, or it could have been the Wuhan lab that caused the Wuhan flu. So the biggest thing that I think that happened with Fauci and everything with the vaccine is it, it made vaccines and science and health political. It shouldn't be that political. Like I'll come out and say this, I think vaccines are good. Smallpox, polio, measles, mumps, rubella, whatever it is. It's the rush of the vaccine Trump. It's the forced mandate of vaccine that people have a problem with. And what you have a problem with is the lying. And it's the hundred percent effective, 92% effective. Ninety percent effective, we don't even know. But go get a booster. By the way, did anybody get their 78th booster this month? So it's convenient that we don't even talk about that anymore.
- [62:00]
Tom
But I agree with you. But don't you think the criminal part.
- [62:03]
Adam
I don't know. I don't know. I don't have a vendetta against Fauci.
- [62:07]
Vinnie
I. Yeah, why not?
- [62:08]
Adam
No fan of Fauci, but I think the emphasis needs to be on China. How much you want to bet this 85 year old guy won't spend one day in jail? I don't think he's going to jail.
- [62:19]
Tom
China in jail.
- [62:20]
Adam
No, but you're talking about Fauci. You want to see accountability?
- [62:23]
Vinnie
100.
- [62:24]
Adam
I don't think he's going to go to jail.
- [62:25]
Vinnie
85 years old guy and I saw
- [62:27]
Adam
by the time they go to trial, he's 87, he's 90, he's going to die by the time he has even sentenced.
- [62:31]
Vinnie
Adam. But think about this guy, when you about talk about the deep state he's been around for how many presidencies?
- [62:36]
Adam
He started with HIV in, like, the 80s.
- [62:38]
Vinnie
And guess what? Have you read the Real Dr. Fauci? The book? Adam, this guy is, to my opinion, is actually evil. Doctor.
- [62:46]
Adam
Then why did every administration, Republican and
- [62:48]
Vinnie
Democrat, keep him around, Adam, because they're all. What do you mean? He's Dr. Fauci. He's the trustworthy guy. You don't know what he's doing behind closed doors. And by the way, this is a leaked audio, Pat, talking about requiring every company to mandate vax. By the way, Adam, this is all business. Follow the money. Follow the money. Because you said vaccines are good. Adam, if I got it, I swear to you, I didn't. Dad.
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Adam
I didn't say the code.
- [63:08]
Vinnie
I'd be dead because of my heart.
- [63:09]
Adam
Vaccines in general.
- [63:10]
Vinnie
Can you play this? Rob,
- [63:13]
Adam
listen, a good thing.
- [63:14]
Vinnie
Listen what Claudi says here that you gave as part of an audiobook written
- [63:18]
Pat
by Michael Spector, that you believed an
- [63:22]
Vinnie
institutional should make it hard for people to.
- [63:26]
Pat
To live their lives so they'd feel
- [63:28]
Vinnie
pressured to get vaccinated. Could we run the audio, please?
- [63:32]
Adam
Do you think can be done about it? I have to say that I don't see a big solution other than some sort of mandatory vaccination.
- [63:40]
Pat
Federal officials don't like to use that term. Once people feel empowered and protected legally,
- [63:47]
Adam
you are going to have schools, universities and colleges are going to say, you want to come to this college, buddy? You're going to get vaccinated, lady.
- [63:56]
Pat
You're going to get vaccinated.
- [63:57]
Adam
Big corporations like Amazon and Facebook and all of those others are going to
- [64:03]
Pat
say, you want to work for us?
- [64:04]
Adam
You get vaccinated.
- [64:05]
Vinnie
And it's been proven. Look, that when you make it difficult
- [64:09]
Adam
for people in their lives, they lose their ideological.
- [64:14]
Vinnie
Look at that. And they get vaccinated. Look at that.
- [64:17]
Pat
Look.
- [64:18]
Vinnie
Okay. By the way. And Adam, you want to talk about rush? When you're the president and a pandemic hits coming from China with that guy behind the helm, and they're in your ear going, Mr. President, we got to rush it, rush it, rush it. Because they're all in bed with all these vaccine companies with Pfizer and everybody. Then it gets rushed out, Adam. And everybody's dying. Everybody has cancer.
- [64:36]
Adam
Everybody's kids have got to pump the brakes on everybody.
- [64:40]
Vinnie
You know what I mean? But, Adam, Adam, let's get real. Adam, Adam, hold on. I'm being.
- [64:44]
Adam
There are. Well, I'm just. I'm being literal.
- [64:46]
Vinnie
Hold on. Ready for this? Okay, let me. Let me rephrase. It. Millions of people, millions of kids that, guess what? Parents brainwashed.
- [64:53]
Pat
Parents, I would tell them, died. I'll tell you this from my standpoint. One of the things for me that was in my top 10 list is Fauci being held accountable. It was on my top 10 list because that, Adam, when you have kids, you'll know what happens to them. When I clearly remember, you know, this picture here, you know, this picture here on my son, it's our favorite picture ever. Jennifer took this picture. We were not even looking at him looking at her. This picture is a Covid picture. This is when they did what they did with schools with kids not having a place to go, came to the office, ended up being a best thing because he was with me at the office every single day for 90 days. I became their teacher on a daily basis. He had to make two shots a day. They had to swim 25 laps a day. They had. They had to read a book, they had to watch a documentary every day for an hour, and they had to write a paper on it. It was every day. I was their teacher for 90 days. It was an incredible experience. But we have the luxury to be able to do that. A lot of people didn't. This guy did that. Fauci did that. And if they're writing emails like that. And I read Anthony Fauci's book by Bobby Kennedy, the real Dr. Fauci, which, by the way, unlike James Comey's book, if you go to that one, which was published by, I want to say, the Skyhorse Publishing. Skyhorse Publishing. If you go to. Look at the number of reviews. Go to it. Look at the number of reviews. 27 till today. It's still a number one bestseller in virology. And we're talking about how many years ago when he wrote this book till today. And by the way, the Cliff Notes at the end, I don't know how many pages on what this guy did with the drug. I think it's called azt, that was tied to aids on how they abused it. They kept it at a cost of 5 or 10,000. Thousand dollars when they didn't need to. Yeah, that's a. This guy's been a part of so much shit the last 40 years. That's unbelievable. So guess what? If, if, if I'm. I'm telling you right now, if they do something by May 11 to Fauci, there is a massive community of libertarians, forget Republicans. Massive community of libertarians and those who were impacted by the vaccine that have been begging for this, they've literally been begging for this. There are millions of Americans that voted for Trump with the hopes of him getting to the bottom of this. Okay, so God willing, by 11th, if they do it, if they do it by May 11th, my ideal situation is by June 14th, a lot of things are squared away. Iran is squared away. You know, a couple of these announcements are being made. Then they go into the World Cup. Then after the World cup, everybody moves on, things get better. Then a new guy comes in, Powell, although he doesn't want to get out, they're going to find a way to lower rates. Gas prices go a little bit lower. Going into the midterms, they already picked up the 12 seats that they're doing a plus minus, which we're talking about the, the redistricting thing that came out. But Fauci is at the top of the list for a lot of people in America. I hope they pursue this. And I can't wait to see a. You know what I want to see, Vinny.
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Vinnie
Yes.
- [68:03]
Pat
And I wonder what kind of jurisdiction they have, even with the pardon, because I think, I think Fauci was pardoned.
- [68:08]
Vinnie
He was pardoned.
- [68:09]
Pat
So that means I want to know how he's protected. What, Tom, what level of protection does a pardon have for them going after this? For Fauci?
- [68:17]
Vinnie
For Fauci, I believe I'll tell you.
- [68:20]
Tom
All of us hate the answer, and the answer is complete. Unless that's why the auto pen headlines were out there so strongly that if someone that was not the president went in and manipulated the pardon list and used the auto pen, Pat. So all you have to do is prove, did that come through the auto pen? Yes. Who did it? Well, this guy Anthony Blinken did. I'm not saying he did. I'm just saying allegedly, Anthony Blinken did. And if we prove that Blinken had no authority and that Biden had no intention or direction. Intention or direction to pardon Fauci, then you can pull the pardon back. But you hear the steps in there. It's a long way, Pat. It's a lot of steps right now. Anthony Fauci carries a pardon, but federal
- [69:04]
Vinnie
pardons, Tom, protects him from federal charges. States can still prosecute if there's a valid state level case to bring. So there's still hope. And that's why when he reversed the auto pen, Tom, Donald Trump came out and the administration said they're all null and void. Remember that? And it kind of just went under the radar and we all moved on. This would be so amaz, Pat, because Of the, because of all the lying, the six feet, social distancing, every. They lied about everything. The effectiveness of the vaccine to where it came from, everything. No, Adam, and I know what you were saying is. Oh, I said everybody, millions and millions of people are affected, were affected, are still going to be affected. Children, by the way, Pat, I was going to tell people this too. You go, God forbid something happens to you, you have to get a blood transfusion, you think they're going to stop and give you the non vaccinated blood. They're giving you whatever that you understand, like the level of that. And I'm telling you right now, if that's affecting people with myocarditis.
- [69:55]
Tom
By the way, I'm not a legal expert, but I read an article once and it really pissed me off, really pissed me off because it said, pick a state like Nebraska, goes all the way to the mat and they prosecute Fauci. Then they appeal it, appeal it, appeal it, appeal it. Where do you end up? You end up at the Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court has asked a question. Was this man already pardoned for this? And therefore does the state charge carry weight? And it's like now you put it in the hands of the Supreme Court to say did he or didn't he? And it's just a mess. And meanwhile he's not in jail, he's walking around.
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Vinnie
Remember, he had Secret Service protecting the court.
- [70:27]
Tom
You can't hit his reputation any harder than Bobby Kennedy did.
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Adam
If what he's saying is accurate. And then nobody can go after Fauci and he's basically been pardoned, who's next on that list? Cuz as much as we think Fauci had the power, there's other people that are making rules, regulations, mandates and all that. The vaccines, like, like. So I'm wondering what's downstream from here. Who would it be? If he's pardoned, what do we call David?
- [70:49]
Vinnie
David Morenz. This is a senior advisor. He's just been indicted with 50 years. And, and Adam, they're going to keep going, they're going to keep searching.
- [70:55]
Tom
But I mean, on the pardon list.
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Vinnie
No, no, he was not on the pardon list. But, but Adam, like, yeah, this guy, he has to be held accountable, bro. He has to be, period.
- [71:05]
Adam
Well, it sounds like they're trying to.
- [71:06]
Vinnie
I hope to God.
- [71:07]
Pat
We'll see. We'll see what happened. Let me get to this next story. So Spencer Pratt, who's running for mayor of la, dude, this guy just dropped a bomb of an ad and then, wait Till you see this clip of Karen Bass, how she's being treated by people in LA while she's in a car trying to talk. That clip excites me more than this one. But here's Spencer Pratt dropping one of the greatest campaign ads of all time. Go ahead, Rob.
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Adam
This is where Mayor Vass lives.
- [71:35]
Tom
You notice something?
- [71:36]
Vinnie
Or here where Nithya Raman's three million dollar mansion sits.
- [71:40]
Tom
They don't have to live in the mess they've created.
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Adam
Where you live.
- [71:45]
Vinnie
This is where I live. They let my home burn down. I know what the consequences of failed leadership are. That's why I'm running for mayor for my sons and the rest of us Angelenos that want to stop these corrupt politicians destroying our city.
- [71:59]
Pat
Go get them, buddy.
- [72:01]
Vinnie
Get the golden age of Los Angeles.
- [72:02]
Pat
Oh, man. By the way, Genie Buss, Los Angeles Lakers, allegedly, if you want to pull this up, just gave him $10 million for his campaign. Okay, $10 million. Okay. If you go look up. Are you kidding me?
- [72:15]
Adam
10 million bucks.
- [72:16]
Pat
Do you have that story? Rob, can you just verify what I'm saying? I thought I was go a little bit lower to see if there's a 10 million dollar story. Story was going viral about her giving 10 million bucks. And then another thing with Spencer Pratt. Rob, if you can go back to where you were at is if you can go back to where you were at. On top of that on Cowshi, you just had a couchy thing with him for mayor, Right?
- [72:39]
Tom
That's the one I want to look at.
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Pat
Yeah. If you look at this, Akalshi for mayor of la and watch what happened to him after he dropped this clip. Look what happens to him. Which one?
- [72:50]
Vinnie
Go to one week.
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Tom
Just go to one week.
- [72:51]
Pat
Is he blue? Rob, can you go to one week go instead of 30 days, go to one week. Is that it?
- [72:57]
Tom
Yep.
- [72:57]
Pat
He's blue. Boom. He bumped up. Up from April 24th. He was April 20. Go to April 24th. Where was he at April 24th? 15. And now he's at what go to today? Boom, 25%. So Nithya Rahman is at 52.6. Karen Bass drops from being at 30 to being below 15. Now she's dead.
- [73:15]
Tom
Even the the Democrats physically, she's a lifetime.
- [73:19]
Pat
A lot of people are worried on
- [73:21]
Adam
life support is what.
- [73:22]
Tom
Sorry. Her campaign stack of sandbags as they say. Her potatoes is in deep trouble.
- [73:28]
Pat
Yeah.
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Tom
That even the Democrats aren't supporting her because she's so. She is too much potatoes.
- [73:33]
Pat
But here's so much bag fires. Here's Karen Bass out there asking for support in this beautiful car. And look how folks from L. A are talking to Karen Bass. Go ahead, Rob.
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Tom
Express our support for Chinatown.
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Pat
Yes.
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Vinnie
We support China. We don't support Karen Bass.
- [73:51]
Tom
Yes.
- [73:52]
Vinnie
Thank you.
- [73:53]
Tom
She's cut services.
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Pat
Oh my God.
- [74:01]
Tom
Oh, that one guy there, I think he was saying she's number one.
- [74:04]
Vinnie
Spencer running as a Democrat.
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Pat
I don't think Spencer's running when it comes down to mayoral races. Well, I don't know if they do Republican or Democrat. They may if you want to pull it up. If he's running out of Democrat as a Republican. Republican. I'm speculating. He's probably going to be a conservative himself.
- [74:25]
Adam
Big cities do. I was actually just talking to.
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Vinnie
Good.
- [74:27]
Pat
Yeah, Republican.
- [74:28]
Adam
Yeah, cities do, obviously.
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Pat
And let me do this and I'll come to you. Rob. There's another clip where she was caught in shocking recording just days before the Palisades fight fire. If you want to play this clip, watch this clip here. Go ahead, Rob up. The situation is very dangerous and I would never do. I will take the criticism before I do a publicity stunt. And frankly a press conference at this point in time would just be publicity. I think, I don't.
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Vinnie
But I think the neighbors, property owners.
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Pat
Yeah.
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Tom
And the residents.
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Vinnie
I mean 41, 000 people live within
- [75:06]
Tom
a square mile here.
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Pat
Yeah.
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Tom
Two families share one bedroom apartment.
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Pat
It. But. But they want to hear that something is going to be done. They want to know it's recognized.
- [75:15]
Adam
But they want to know it's recognized.
- [75:18]
Pat
Exactly. But if I have a choice between
- [75:20]
Adam
that and compromising something, I just have
- [75:24]
Pat
to go along with it. It's not my area of expertise. You're safe, it's coming and hopefully you can read in between.
- [75:35]
Vinnie
Read between the lines.
- [75:36]
Tom
But I would just appreciate.
- [75:39]
Pat
Just. And it's hard for me to tell you this.
- [75:41]
Vinnie
It's hard.
- [75:42]
Pat
But hold tight.
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Tom
You will understand soon.
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Vinnie
Yo, that's. You know what that is? That's somebody saying that they know something but they don't want to say it out loud, you know.
- [75:54]
Tom
By the way, what was it, Vinny, you lived in la, what was it? What are. What are the hot winds called?
- [75:58]
Adam
I don't know.
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Vinnie
I don't know the name of them.
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Tom
The Santa Anas.
- [76:00]
Vinnie
Yes.
- [76:01]
Tom
The weather report will say here come the Santa Ana, buddy. Like, and those.
- [76:05]
Adam
Did you even live in la?
- [76:06]
Vinnie
Santa Anas?
- [76:07]
Tom
No, they're called.
- [76:08]
Adam
You can't manufacture the farm.
- [76:10]
Tom
Anybody can Google it. It's called the Santa Anas. She had received a briefing that said The Santa Ana winds are gonna kick up, and they could be as high as 100 miles an hour at the bottom of canyons where all the winds come together. They warned her, and she got on a plane and went to wherever, Ghana. And you can hear that she's saying, read between the lines. Be safe. It's because the fires hadn't started. But people told her, hey, man, we have fire. And this is really kind of crazy. There it is. The Santa Ana winds, referred to as the devil winds, are extremely. Devil's lettuce out there wins. They come in with a high pressure mass, and guess what? All you need is a little spark.
- [76:48]
Vinnie
I get so nervous with Tom's trivia. Tom would be like, and George Washington went to this place and was wearing what size shoe, Vinnie? And I'm like, I don't know.
- [76:55]
Tom
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
- [76:57]
Pat
Now here's a math question for you.
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Adam
Clarity.
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Tom
I did not see George Washington when he did that. Yes, I was in the restroom.
- [77:04]
Vinnie
Okay, gotcha. But by the way, she's talking on the phone with John Alle. He's a property manager who works for Palisade, Pacific Palisades, Westlake, Pat, and MacArthur Park. And obviously, he recorded it on purpose. But while this is all building, she's not even. She left the country. And then, remember at the airport, Pat, she's at the gate, and somebody's like, people said that you knew beforehand, and you were just. You still went. And she's just looking at the ground for five minutes because she can't talk. It's ridiculous. And then you have Gavin Newsom coming out, standing in the middle of burning rubble. People. Houses are destroyed. People are dead. And he's like, talking to a lady. I got a call. Lady. I got a call. I got a call. But the other one was like, yeah, I've been talking to Josh Green, and we're talking about some land grabbing, and he's excited about people coming to grab land from all these people.
- [77:48]
Pat
Spencer Pratt is creating momentum. He's making noise. A lot of folks in LA are paying attention to him, and God willing, he gets more and more momentum as he's going in this race. Adam, your thoughts on this?
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Tom
Yeah.
- [78:01]
Adam
What? I got to give credit to Spencer Pratt for reinventing himself. We talk about reinventing yourself all the time. I remember when someone I think pitched like, hey, do you want to have Spencer Pratt on the podcast? I was like, the reality guy from the 2000s. They're like, oh, you haven't seen what he's up to. These Days, dude, he's running for mayor. I'm like, as a joke. They're like, no, he's for real. And we've been looking into it, and he is for real. You know who the joke is? This Karen Bass lady. So kudos to you. I'm not sure, you know, I don't. You know, my whole thoughts on California, Los Angeles, I think that's a fallen city. Just like New York. Miami's the future. Texas is the future. Louisiana Looks cooked. Literally half the city burnt down. Allegedly. But I got to give him major credit for reinventing himself. And I got to tell you, kind of rooting for the guy. That ad was badass. Good for him. And he has three things going for him. He has the personality. He knows what he is. He knows. He knows how to work a camera.
- [78:56]
Tom
Right.
- [78:56]
Adam
He has policies, it seems, because all you have to do is just be anti Marxist, anti woke, anti LGBTQ abdc and just be normal. And he has the biggest decider. You know what? He has purpose. His house burnt down and he's living in a van down by the river,
- [79:15]
Tom
down by the Palisade.
- [79:16]
Adam
There it is. And we all know those Santa Ana wins. Vinny, you know about that, I can't help but rooting for the guy. So good luck to him. And.
- [79:23]
Vinnie
But I. But I hope people, like, I hope Californians, like, are starting to see, like, Angelenos. Angelenos. Don't keep falling for the Democrat. Whatever. This guy actually.
- [79:32]
Adam
What do you mean? Don't forget. When's the last time you think there was a Republican mayor?
- [79:38]
Pat
LA.
- [79:38]
Adam
I don't. What year?
- [79:39]
Vinnie
I don't remember.
- [79:40]
Adam
Richard Roden, 1849. The 49 are gold. No, I'm just kidding. 2000. It's been 26 years. But here's my Republican mayor in LA.
- [79:49]
Vinnie
Adam, here's your chance. Here's your chance. And I know with governor, it's probably not going to happen, but, like, you keep voting for trash, you're going to get trash.
- [79:58]
Adam
Time to recycle that.
- [80:00]
Vinnie
Yeah. What are they? Like, this is your opportunity to freaking, like, start bucking the system a little bit. Get somebody in there that actually gives a damn. Damn, like they actually give a damn about what the hell's going on.
- [80:09]
Adam
Still married to the Heidi girl, by the way.
- [80:11]
Pat
There was a story going viral that genie bus gave 10 million. I'm trying to find this 10 million because it wasn't our text community as well. I don't think it's 10 million. I think she gave Max the Max. You can she donated.
- [80:24]
Vinnie
And 1800.
- [80:25]
Pat
1800, which is a max.
- [80:26]
Adam
18, 10 million.
- [80:28]
Pat
Different.
- [80:29]
Adam
But where did that 10 million thing come from?
- [80:31]
Pat
Because probably because she sold the business for $10 billion, because the Lakers sold for 10 billion. So I don't know how she did
- [80:36]
Adam
not give him that money.
- [80:36]
Pat
No, it was on a community tax. So to correct it, it's 1800 bucks genie bus gave to it. Let's continue. But watch this with LA. This leads to two stories I want to do with California, LA, because we love that place so much. Here's one of them. Leaving California makes homeownership 48% more likely. What? So you live in California, you don't own a home. If you leave California, you increase the likelihood of you being a homeowner by 48%. Yes. Rob, go ahead. This morning.
- [81:09]
Vinnie
A new study finds that Californians who
- [81:11]
Adam
leave the state are 48% more likely
- [81:14]
Vinnie
to own a home within seven years compared to those who stay. This is according to research from the UC Policy Lab.
- [81:21]
Pat
You know what a UC Policy Lab is? UC Berkeley. Very liberal to buy a home. They want to be able to raise their kids in something more than an apartment. The study says lawmakers should focus on affordability and restoring California's appeal to current residents and potential newcomers. Yeah. Renters relocating out of California saw rent lower by 30%, which is $631 a month in their new neighborhood. How Homeowners also find more affordable pricing for the median home, which cost $396,000, or 48% less than median where they live in LA. The dynamic helps homeownership more common in their new neighborhood, with 60% owning their homes versus 53 in the California neighborhoods they departed. So, Tom, how do you react to this story? Why is this such a big deal?
- [82:06]
Tom
I think it's a big deal because, you know, Adam's been out to California. He's got friends in California, so he's got some visibility there. But we've all lived there. All the rest of us have lived there. And what is going on here is it's insane even. You see, Berkeley runs a study. And what was funny about the study, there was a comment that was in the study is making California more appealing to current residents. I think was the. The statement that was there.
- [82:32]
Pat
Yeah.
- [82:33]
Tom
So wait a minute. Those of you thinking about leaving, please don't leave. Let's make it more appealing for you to stay.
- [82:37]
Vinnie
Don't.
- [82:38]
Tom
Don't bail. Don't bail. And what we're seeing here is the truth of bad policy. Bad policy that Destroyed the economy. Bad policy that's led to ridiculous homeowners insurance costs. Bad policies that have led to shortages of insurance carriers so that you can't even get insurance coverage. You have to get like this, this crippled coverage, you know, called the Fair Plan. And the bad policies that have led to, you know, companies leaving, then voters running amok, being driven by unions. And Gavin Newsom, who's now running from responsibility because he allegedly was right there with SEIU unions on this, the billionaire tax, even though now he's trying to move back on it because it looks bad, muddy and there's going to get mud on his white shirt while he's on camera trying to run for president. That's not going to work. And so what I see, Pat, this is just the outcome. You put all of the bad decisions and the lack of leadership into a bowl. You mix it, you put it in the oven and this is the, the cake it bakes. People that are leaving and how bad is it? You're actually more likely to be able to get a home for your family, a permanent residence, 48% more likely after you leave. That's how bad it is.
- [83:59]
Adam
Yeah, well, one thing we know about real estate, location, location, location. And everybody wants to live in the greatest cities in the world. New York, Louisiana. Except those are no longer the greatest cities anymore. That's why people are coming to Miami. I think when it comes to housing, you're supposed to spend up to 30% of your gross income on housing, on rent, on your mortgage. I want to say Angelenos, Californians specifically are spending upwards of 100% of their total take home pay on rent. Meaning like they're working just to pay rent.
- [84:33]
Vinnie
How they eating?
- [84:34]
Adam
Exactly. That's why there's a homeless problem is so pervasive in la. So location, location, location. A lot of people are looking at how much it costs to pay rent in la. And they're going, yeah, instead of living in la, I'm going to go to a different loss and I'm going to go to Las Vegas. And that's why so many people are moving to Nevada. Pat, there was a second story you want to talk about with Nevada, I believe, right?
- [84:55]
Pat
Which one is that?
- [84:56]
Adam
This was the Californians are fleeing to Nevada for affordability. There's that word again.
- [85:00]
Pat
Yeah.
- [85:01]
Adam
Forget Texas, forget Florida. The real winner of California's greatest exodus is the state right next door. Californians are quietly moving to Nevada, the top destination. Fed up with sky high costs, pulling in more former residents per capita than any other state over the past decade. Okay. For every 10,000 Nevada residents, roughly 81 more Californians arrived and departed each year from 2016 to 2025. The math is especially brutal for Sacramento and clarifying for everyone else.
- [85:30]
Pat
Yeah, I mean, look, look, a lot of friends that I have are moving from California to Nevada. Nevada, it's right there down the street. Three and a half hour drive. You don't have to like, you can still come and visit your family. Some who make the full move, they'll go to Texas. And then a few who make the full move, they'll move to, what do you call it, Florida. But the folks who are living in San Francisco. Is this San Francisco, Ron?
- [85:53]
Tom
Yes, sir.
- [85:53]
Pat
By the way, before you watch it, I just want to give you a warning. It's uncomfortable watching this, but we have this in many cities in America. I'm not just highlighting this, but this is what San Francisco looks like right now. Go ahead, Ronald. Jeez. And by the way, they're not playing a game like Stop.
- [86:10]
Vinnie
No. You know that game, that's Trank. Are they on that tran?
- [86:13]
Pat
They're on drug.
- [86:14]
Vinnie
Yeah, of course.
- [86:15]
Pat
Imagine your kids are walking down and you're just kind of going through and this is what you're seeing.
- [86:19]
Adam
Yeah, it's horrible.
- [86:19]
Vinnie
Like what kind of drug makes you like, like his.
- [86:23]
Adam
That guy's pants are off, bro.
- [86:24]
Vinnie
It's more than just you're zombies, you're a zombie.
- [86:27]
Pat
Yeah, you can pause it right now. It's disturbing to watch California and, and FYI, wildlife, this is going on. You know what the LAPD chief just said? The lapd. What's about to come up? The World Cup. The LAPD chief just dropped this following message. You think people want to hear this terrifying truth bomb about LA Olympic security?
- [86:46]
Vinnie
Let's hear it.
- [86:46]
Adam
Oh, man.
- [86:47]
Pat
Now, Olay. Olympic security or World Cup? I mean, if people. Is there going to be a game in la? By the way, I'm curious if there's going to be any World cup games. Go ahead and play the video, Rob. Go for it.
- [86:55]
Tom
Requested funding to purchase vehicles, technology and specialized equipment to be able to do the Olympics. In addition, the one billion dollar budget is for all agencies involved in the Olympics, not just the LAPD, and will be restricted primarily to police officer overtime.
- [87:13]
Pat
LA28 confirmed that they have zero police
- [87:17]
Tom
or public safety budget. And while they do have a security budget, it doesn't cover law enforcement.
- [87:23]
Pat
Okay, so the chief is getting up there before the World cup, which by the way, eight matches of the 2026 World cup in the Next few weeks, we're only a few weeks away, will be held at SOFI Stadium. Okay, so imagine if you're like going through it, out of 104 total matches that are going to be happening in North America, of the 104, 8% are in LA and LA only. And you're telling me this before World cup, you don't think you're ready? Are you ready for World Cup? What's a bigger event, World cup or Olympics?
- [87:59]
Vinnie
World Cup.
- [88:00]
Pat
I would say World Cup, I would
- [88:02]
Tom
say World cup, but the Olympics is harder.
- [88:04]
Pat
Harder to patrol because it's a lot of different events and just one game that's coming in, that makes sense to me.
- [88:10]
Tom
But one stadium and then certain hotels is World Cup.
- [88:13]
Pat
But Tom, if you think about the World cup, if people are going to games and you want to take your wife, wife and kids and you go into la, what, what things are you thinking about? Oh, my God, are we safe? Are we not? The LA Chief is telling you we're not ready for Olympics. You think they're ready for the World Cup? If this guy's saying we're not ready for the Olympics, and that's in two years. You think they're ready for the World Cup? That's in six.
- [88:30]
Tom
That's right. And Ahmed Al Kaboom, who's sitting there living in Santa Monica because he snuck across the border two years ago in Mexico.
- [88:38]
Vinnie
So that's the problem is.
- [88:39]
Adam
Sounds like a Christian guy.
- [88:40]
Tom
Can't wait to walk into a group of people, you know, going into a state stadium wearing a special vest.
- [88:46]
Adam
Yeah, well, California is going to have a chance to show what it's got, and it's either going to go great or it's going to be. I'm hoping everything's okay.
- [88:56]
Vinnie
I mean, I know he was joking around, but. But the seriousness of how many people are here that they've said that, bro, there's active sleeper cell Al Qaeda.
- [89:04]
Tom
That's my point.
- [89:05]
Vinnie
They're old.
- [89:06]
Tom
I was being incredibly sarcastic off the cuff, but it is. Could there be one or two sleeper cell people that have walked in right across the border? Sure, there could. And could they be just. They can't wait for crowds of people approaching the stadium beyond the security perimeter to go in and wreak havoc. That's what they do. Look around the world. That's what they do.
- [89:25]
Vinnie
Tom, we just saw a video from the White House correspondents of a guy run in and run past. If he had a bomb on his body, that whole group is dead. And think about the magnitude of the World Cup. I don't think, like, the fact that he's saying that, Pat, that's a. That's freaking scary that he's like, we can't.
- [89:41]
Pat
We can't.
- [89:42]
Vinnie
Like, that's. You don't want to hear a security
- [89:43]
Pat
guy say that before the World Cup.
- [89:45]
Vinnie
I don't want.
- [89:46]
Pat
In two years. We're not ready for an event that's happening two years from now, but we're ready for an event that's happening six weeks from now. Yeah, okay.
- [89:53]
Vinnie
For sure.
- [89:54]
Pat
We're going to be ready for that.
- [89:55]
Tom
Yeah.
- [89:55]
Pat
Anyways, we'll see. I mean, we're planning on going to a couple games, but we'll see which ones we're going to be going to. All right, let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get to is I got a couple stories I want to get into. I don't know which one's more important. Let's go into this one, and then we'll wrap up with the other couple stories. Erica Kirk. We'll go into that story as well before we wrap up, but I want to get into this one because this while. Listen, everybody's focused on war. Everybody's focused on oil prices. Everybody's focused on the economy, security, and no one's paying attention to. Maybe one of the biggest stories in the last 24 hours is a bombshell sexual harassment suit against Lorna Hajjdini, JP Morgan branded, complete fabrication, as John the Unmasked. So this story yesterday goes viral. Okay, And Rob, I want to read the. The tweets that this fellow claimed that she sent them or the messages that she sent him. You know, she. He claims he was a sexual slave. Did you guys see that story where he. Bombshell sexual harassment suit against Armature. Okay, do you have the. Do you have the words of what he says? Because there's three different things that he claims she would tell him. This is the one glamorous JP Morgan Chase executive accused of turning married male broker into her sex slave. Claims of Viagra spiking and litany of obscene force acts that made him cry. This is like Jennifer Aniston from Horrible Bosses in real life, right? So go a little bit lower.
- [91:20]
Adam
Pictures over here.
- [91:21]
Pat
Go a little bit lower. Go a little bit. Oh, Rob, come on. You don't subscribe to the. That's the one to read. Read. The one to read is that one. Because the other one is. I. I actually want to prefer. I want to read that one first. Rob, I know you have it. Okay? So she says her claims are. Oh, you did play basketball in college. I love basketball player. They get me so wet. He says that she said that, right? These are his claim. Rob, is this serious? Is it. Is this a joke? Or you're not. You're not, like, pulling a prank on me because it's a May 1st? It's like, maybe, yeah, we have a
- [91:56]
Adam
picture of this, Lorna.
- [91:57]
Pat
So let me. Let me go through this. Let me read some of this stuff. He's on page 27. I'm with you there, Ron.
- [92:02]
Vinnie
This never happens to me.
- [92:03]
Pat
Give me another one. If you don't F me soon, I'm going to ruin you. Never forget. I'm effing owning you, by the way. I'm telling you. This is from Horrible Bosses. This is Horrible Bosses.
- [92:16]
Adam
One million percent.
- [92:16]
Pat
Okay? Twice Doe claims that Hijani propositioned him for oral sex in the office on one occasion asking for birthday BJ on for the brown boy. My little brown boy.
- [92:28]
Adam
What?
- [92:30]
Pat
What?
- [92:30]
Vinnie
My little bro.
- [92:31]
Pat
You're gonna need to earn it. Look at this one here.
- [92:34]
Vinnie
Go. Where is it?
- [92:35]
Pat
You're gonna need to earn it. You, my little Arab boy toy. Who says stuff like this? I mean, at this point, I agree with Tom.
- [92:42]
Adam
I thought there was an Asian situation.
- [92:44]
Pat
Well, there's an Asian one as well. There's so many things here. I bet you want a future at J.P. morgan. It's that simple. I don't know why you're fighting this. He says she said this to him. Do you want to get promoted at the end of the year or not? Harjani warned him. According to the lawsuit, Harjani then allegedly removed her shirt, began following her breasts with racially insult those wife remarking. I bet your little Asian fish head wife doesn't have these at this point in my reading, I've never heard anybody
- [93:13]
Adam
call the fish head before.
- [93:16]
Pat
And then he continues. I like that Ajani album allegedly admonished him for crying and scolded him for failing to achieve an erection. Stop effing crime.
- [93:25]
Adam
You think
- [93:28]
Pat
you're an effing douchebag. You.
- [93:30]
Tom
By the way, that's a improvement.
- [93:31]
Pat
So here's the thing, okay? This is terrible calibration when you're going through stuff like this. But, you know, you know what I would tell you is, you know what I would. Does not meet expectations. Rob.
- [93:41]
Tom
Yeah, that's it.
- [93:43]
Adam
This is her.
- [93:44]
Pat
So this is her. Yeah, she became the most famous person. And that's him. Okay.
- [93:49]
Vinnie
Poor guy.
- [93:50]
Adam
Oh, yeah, he's married, by the way,
- [93:52]
Vinnie
this Is all alleged.
- [93:53]
Pat
This is all stuff in the lawsuit. Oh, that he puts.
- [93:57]
Vinnie
Oh man.
- [93:58]
Pat
By the way, you can read this further for yourself if you want to Entertain yourself. On June 9, 2025, Doe says he received a voicemail from someone claiming to be a manager at JPMC telling him he wasn't welcome because of his skin color. Adding that people don't want your kind here. I mean this is just bunch of gibberish, right? Then New York Post drops a story saying this whole story was fake. He faked the whole story. Rob, if you want to go to it, Is this the one? Yeah. Father, can you go a little bit lower, Rob, with this story? You know. JPMorgan staffer whom sources identified as Shirayurana has been accused of making fabricated sexual harassment claims against a high ranking executive at the bank after an internal investigation found no evidence of wrongdoing. Multiple sources told the post 35 year old Ron and now a principal and investment firm Brigo Sagamount is the man who brought the bombshell lawsuit against Lorna Hajini earlier this week. Rana suit filed on Monday under the pseudo name John Doe accused a 37 year old executive director of turning him into a sex slave by drugging him with Roy. What is that? Roy Pinall and Viagra.
- [95:05]
Adam
Oh, Roofie.
- [95:06]
Tom
That's the proper.
- [95:06]
Pat
That's the metaphor. Rufus and Viagra and threatening.
- [95:09]
Adam
I don't know why they call it roofies.
- [95:10]
Vinnie
They should call his boy his bonus
- [95:11]
Pat
if he does not comply. Okay, Tom, what do you think about the story here? I know you're following closely. What do you think about the story?
- [95:17]
Adam
Come here, my little white Arab boy toy. What do you got?
- [95:20]
Tom
Oh, this is horrible. And now it, so it looks, it looks like now that this has now been all discredited, that the guy actually, you know, you know what this is about. Well, so I looked under AI for something. I'll share something in a minute. But first of all, this is a disgruntled, apparently disgruntled worker that's trying to get money out of a corporation. I think it looks to me like that's what's happened here. And so he's filed this lawsuit with these outrageous claims and the whole thing backfires because it goes public. People come out and say that woman is not like that. Her co workers. JP Morgan says, we conducted an investigation and we couldn't get this guy. I think that's what it said, Pat, that he refused to cooperate with the investigation by legal inside JP Morgan. And so he puts us out here. And so this morning it looks like that the, that the. All of the data in the court case was made public because it ended up being a public filing and the media was free to report on it.
- [96:26]
Pat
That.
- [96:26]
Tom
And so now this guy looks terrible. It's just. And if he's. If he does, as the articles are alleging, this is disgusting. Tried to destroy this woman's career and just try to get money out of it or make a lawsuit and get through it.
- [96:42]
Adam
Oh, you're defending him?
- [96:43]
Tom
No, I'm not defending him. I'm saying it's disgusting what he did. If the, the reports this morning, Adam, are that.
- [96:50]
Adam
Oh, you're defending her.
- [96:51]
Vinnie
Yeah, well, if he's lying, I'm not
- [96:53]
Tom
depending offending anybody right now. I'm looking at it and saying it's disgusting if what he did, he.
- [96:58]
Pat
I don't want you to take a position.
- [97:00]
Adam
Take a position.
- [97:01]
Vinnie
Which one?
- [97:02]
Adam
Backwards.
- [97:02]
Tom
Well, I'll tell you this. And I also looked on. And by the way, what did she call her? What did she call them?
- [97:08]
Vinnie
Cannons.
- [97:09]
Tom
Cannons. I looked up on AI and I said, do women usually refer to them as cannons? They said, no, it's. You will hear words like airbags, twin peaks, hooters, jugs, rack, melons, knock, but you don't hear canon.
- [97:23]
Vinnie
Yes, yes. Well, we're at war with Iran.
- [97:25]
Tom
Thank God we have AI, right? Yeah, but I think it's disgusting if he. Look at, look at what he's done to her. If it turns out that she had
- [97:33]
Pat
nothing to do with. She's going to sue the hell out of him.
- [97:36]
Tom
Oh, my gosh.
- [97:37]
Pat
Can you imagine what her DMs look like right now? Hey, are you.
- [97:41]
Adam
I just DM'd her.
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Tom
Just. By the way, did you see X yesterday? There wasn't even comments about her on X. Yesterday you saw like 20 guys in suits running across the street in New York and it says JP Morgan's hiring. Like, oh, brother.
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Pat
How is Jamie Dimon using this?
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Tom
There was a meme with Jamie Dimon where somebody's. He's making this horrible face and there's a guy in his ear said, sir, this is what just happened. There's a picture Jamie Dimon, like, there
- [98:08]
Vinnie
he is, like, like completely pissed.
- [98:11]
Pat
Sir, job application at JP Morgan. Check out 686,000%.
- [98:17]
Tom
And he's like, what?
- [98:20]
Adam
So this woman is sexually harassing her underling, her coworker, allegedly.
- [98:25]
Tom
She allegedly alleges is the word.
- [98:28]
Adam
Okay, so she's allegedly sexually harassing, she's allegedly racist, allegedly abusive sexual advances. It's disgusting. But do we have her phone number by any chance? Let's. I want to do a little follow up here.
- [98:40]
Pat
Is in flux. The filing was pulled, but Rana's lawyer has said they plan to refile properly and stand by the claims, looking forward to discovery. And that's what the latest, by the way.
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Tom
That's all he can say. That's all his lawyer can say. He's got to save face, even if he's not going to do it. And by the way, look at this on Twitter and say, you know what Disney character he looks like.
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Pat
Say it. Tom, who is one of them. I know.
- [99:04]
Tom
Yeah, yeah. I'm not gonna say it. It's from Toy Story.
- [99:08]
Vinnie
Oh, Woody.
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Adam
He's like a Woody and Aladdin.
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Vinnie
And what a good player on words, ladies and gentlemen.
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Adam
Okay, Pat, what do you think is going on here? I mean, you can't make this up.
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Vinnie
Oh, my God.
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Pat
I mean, listen, there. There. There is. There's. There's a lot of people. Yeah, the. The part that's confusing about this is, you know, if you do something like that, what happens for the rest of your career? Who the hell. No, no, forget her.
- [99:41]
Vinnie
Her image.
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Pat
She is like, to me, honestly, if I'm her, I'm like, dude, dude, it sucks. But guess what? There's nothing that happened that made her look bad. No, no, no, I understand that. She just got. Look, it helps. It helps that she's attractive. It helps that she's attractive. It helps that she's a. Now people know she's a winner in New York. She's winning. She's doing her stuff. But that guy. If you did something like that and it was all fake, go ahead and apply for another company to get a job. Oh, go ahead. So apply for another company to get a job. Who's gonna trust you? You want people to give you money? You want people to trust you behind closed doors, you're done. When you make claims like this, you won't get clients like us that are gonna do business with you. And now if it is, again, we don't know the whole story. Maybe he was drunk and he was watching Horrible Bosses and this was a fantasy. He wanted her to talk to him like that. I don't know. I don't know. It's a crazy story. It's a very good story for media, though. So we have to cover it.
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Tom
We have to cover it. She never drunk dial and especially never drunk soup.
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Adam
But are you saying that there's a chance that he's just making this all up in order to do what I'm
- [100:43]
Pat
80% get a lawsuit.
- [100:44]
Adam
Oh, really?
- [100:45]
Pat
He wants to get back at the. Are you kidding me? Like, there's so many companies that are walking on eggshells frightened. They'll just cut a check to make a story go away. They'll cut a story. They cut a check to make a story go away all the time.
- [100:57]
Tom
And that may have been whatever he would have.
- [100:58]
Adam
The text message, by the way.
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Tom
You know, it's interesting, right? I saw a news report this morning, reputable source that went through the bio, allegedly, they're saying that this is the properly researched bio of his background. Pat. He's had like eight jobs in 12 years. So he's a guy that stays someplace, apparently one or two. And we go through interviewing like this. We have software we built to help companies go through and filter. So apparently, if that story is correct, Pat, he's like this serial job hopper.
- [101:25]
Pat
He's a journeyman.
- [101:26]
Adam
He's a journeyman.
- [101:27]
Pat
He's a journeyman.
- [101:28]
Adam
NBA journeyman. I feel horrible for his Asian fish head wife.
- [101:31]
Tom
I'll take a two year. Yeah, I'll take a two year deal on the league's mid cap exemption, by
- [101:37]
Pat
the way, if this becomes a lie, imagine what his wife feels like. Why would you say that? Why would you put that fake line in there about me? Like, he's. Like you could have said anything else. Why are you taking shots? What did I. You really think that about me, babe? That's our private sweetie word, by the way. Dom, that is the. That is the worst. Honey, this really. She really did this. Show me the text. She said that and I was so upset because I don't love her, you know, it's. It's a very. It's just a very. I don't know. Look, it is what it is. I think the best part of the story is the fact that, you know, you talk about Toy Story, you know, the, the relevance there, and horrible bosses. We'll see what happened.
- [102:16]
Adam
Let me get people out there at work, ladies.
- [102:18]
Pat
Let me get to the next story. Let me get to the next story. Let me get to the next story. Next story I want to get into is. So we have that one with Plano. Let me see what I haven't covered. Rob, what story have I not gone into before we wrap up? Up. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Oh, let's do this one. Tom. Oil prices. Okay. Triple a national average of gas prices soars as Iran's war remains unsettled. Oil briefly hit $126. And. And that number haven't had we haven't hit a number like that in four years. When you hit a 126, you're going to be around $5 a gallon. If it stays like that for too long, slightly higher than that, you need to get to five bucks. But go ahead, play this clip.
- [102:59]
Tom
The pain at the pump hitting harder. Americans now paying the highest price for
- [103:03]
Vinnie
gas in four years, having to choose
- [103:05]
Pat
between gas and food. And that's a very hard decision. The national Average is now $4.35 a
- [103:13]
Tom
gallon for regular, up 31 cents from
- [103:15]
Vinnie
last week and up a dollar 18
- [103:17]
Tom
from a year ago, according to GasBuddy.
- [103:19]
Adam
Having to like just go around and
- [103:20]
Tom
see what's the best and what's cheapest. This is just another thing that we have to deal with.
- [103:26]
Pat
Prices jumping.
- [103:27]
Vinnie
The last few days as oil prices
- [103:29]
Pat
surged, the Strait of Hormuz closed and the White House in active conversations with lawmakers about congressional authorization for the war.
- [103:36]
Vinnie
We'll continue to see oil go up and up and up until somebody blinks, whether it's the US Or Iran. I mean the Strait of Hormuzza right
- [103:43]
Pat
there to essentially, you know, an expert comes out and talks about how $200 oil and two other scenarios could tip the world into recession, says this global bank. 200 recession. According to the latest quarterly outlook from banking giant BMP Paribas, the broader view expressed by the bank on Wednesday is that the world economy has been dented but not derailed by the war in Iran. Though it does see lower GDP growth rates, higher inflation, more hawkish central banks than it did the beginning of the year, the prospect of oil reaching 200 doesn't seem far fetched given the front month. Brent oil contract was trading at around $114 a barrel on Wednesday, up 88% this year. But even in this case where oil prices doesn't reach that high, the French bank expects a first half average of a hundred dollars. The global economy is dangerously close to how BMP defines a recession. BNP is forecasting 3% GDP growth defines a recession at anything that's less than 2 1/2% worldwide that the decade average is 3 1/2%. Tom, how likely is it that oil goes to $200?
- [104:45]
Tom
I don't think it's. That's likely and that's a headline they like to use. But good is oil is still way too high. Like right now wti, which stands for West Texas Intermediate. If you look for oil quotes on American exchanges, that's what you'll find. It's down almost $4 today to 101. So it's almost $4 down. It's still 101.50, I think it is right now. And Brent, that's the other side of the world. In Europe, Brent crude, that is 114, 116 right now. Now, still. So this is still way too high. And people hear, oh, my gosh, you know, you know, look at the stock market doing well. Wait, you got to ignore the stock market. We're in earnings seasons. AI is doing well. A lot of things are happening. So The Dow's at 72.50.
- [105:33]
Pat
Excuse me.
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Tom
Dow's at 49, 700s P500 at 7250. Very, very, very high. Brent's at 109 right now, by the way. This is just, this is bad. It's not whether oil gets to 120, Pat. We need oil to get down to 67 bucks, which was the 62 to 70 range it was in before the war started. We needed to get back down and get supplies in. And then now we have a chance to get gasoline down. And it's gotta happen quick. I don't see it going to 120. I see that as a headline. People are banging around, but right now we need 30 bucks to come off of it in the US to take WTI just back down to 71.
- [106:19]
Adam
Adam, listen, I understand why people are a little upset that they're paying a little bit more at the pump. But I would guarantee you this, people would be a lot more upset if a nuclear weapon went off in America. Because what Trump is doing is saying
- [106:38]
Vinnie
the whole short term, paying for the long term gain.
- [106:41]
Adam
I get it. You're paying a dollar extra at the pump. I get it. But where was this outrage, this selective outrage, when in 2022 you were paying $5 at the pump because Biden basically shut down the Keystone Pipeline and wasn't. Drill, baby, drill. Where was the outrage there? Everybody. So, yes, I want people to save that money and not have to pay more at the pump. But if your life is to the point where you're literally can't eat because you're paying a couple extra bucks a week, you got bigger issues that you got to solve in your financial life and your overall life. And I'm not dismissing that and downplaying that. I feel for people that are living paycheck to paycheck. But, you know, what goes up must comes down. And what goes down, musk is going to go up, the prices are going to go down. It's Going to take some time. You know, Pat, you've quoted potentially by June, potentially when the World cup and everything comes here. At the end of the day, this Trump is doing what nobody else had the balls or the courage to do. Nine US Presidents have all criticized and condemned Iran. Trump was the first one who said, you know what? Make my day, Homie Harry, Dirty Harry. So I predict that this thing's going down by summer. We understand that. Summer people are driving, the economy's moving. I'll ask you one question. I'll leave it like this. Who's in a worse position now? United States, that some people are paying a dollar more at the pump or Iran where their entire economy is crumbling, people are fighting for survival. Their ayatollah is dead, all their leadership is dead. Their economy, their unemployment, their misery index, their inflation all plummeting. And yet there's a large faction on the far left and the far right who claim that America's losing because they're paying a dollar at the pump. I'm not buying it.
- [108:26]
Tom
That's a macro analysis. But you have to Remember gasoline's up $2. Adam and I appreciate the macro analysis, but in the pocketbook of the average American worker is gas. It's $2 more. Heating oil was up in.
- [108:40]
Adam
Why do you say $2 more? It was $3 a couple months ago.
- [108:43]
Tom
No, no, no. It's $2 above the national average before the war started.
- [108:47]
Pat
Right.
- [108:48]
Tom
It's $2 up on that.
- [108:49]
Adam
But where was it before the war started? Three bucks. Right.
- [108:52]
Tom
No, no, no, no, no. The national average was down like 289. Because you have to remember the tax. Various states. Yeah. And so that, and then electricity costs is up.
- [109:00]
Adam
So the, so let me ask you this. Are you saying that you don't agree with Trump doing this?
- [109:05]
Tom
No, no, hang on. I'm just saying, I'm asking you a question. We can't lose in the macro analysis is to have a heart. For the citizens are out there that we want to see this stuff cleaned up by the mid June.
- [109:14]
Pat
So they really have a way of winning people over. Over. It's, it's like such a thing that you do that's, you know, it's pretty black and white. No, it's not. But, but so are you saying that
- [109:26]
Adam
you both, you don't condone both.
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Pat
Both things are happening. Okay. One, families who are dollar and gas prices increasing impacts their discretionary income are going through a painful time right now. They're feeling it.
- [109:42]
Adam
Sure.
- [109:42]
Pat
Two, I also understand why this has taken place. And I'm hoping it ends quickly. Okay. I'm hoping it ends quickly. I would support it if it's a quick thing happening, not something that takes a long time. And I'm optimistic that everything, trust me, yesterday, if you were in the room, I wish that conversation would have been recorded. What I'm more interested in is, Vinnie, Yesterday you were on a major zoom with a bunch of global oil strategists and energy economists and petroleum market analysts with the leaders of OPEC that you were talking to. I don't want to disclose their names. Names. What is your analysis? What do you think is going to happen?
- [110:15]
Vinnie
I. I think that the injection of, you know, injection fracture.
- [110:20]
Tom
Are we back to J.P. morgan?
- [110:22]
Vinnie
Yeah, you know what I'm talking about, like, with the.
- [110:24]
Pat
With the, you know, I totally.
- [110:26]
Vinnie
Like, with all the, you know, infrastructure and all the constituents that are going to be affected by this global, you know, influx of. Of crude and natural gas. Pat. I think heating oil and gold. I'm just reading. Whatever.
- [110:38]
Pat
I haven't heard anybody give a better analysis than Vinny. Maybe the greatest analysis ever. Okay, let's wrap it up here.
- [110:44]
Vinnie
Bye. Bye. Bye, bye.
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Pat
So we all know what happened at the White House Correspondents dinner. There was a clip of Erica Kirk running out saying, I just want to go home. And that created a lot of people talking about it. And then Erica Kirk, in the last few weeks, Drew Ski did that one thing with her. You got a lot of comments that are being made about her, and then she reacted to it. Rob, I can't do 4 minutes and 12 seconds.
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Tom
It's right off the beginning.
- [111:05]
Pat
Okay, okay, so. And she came up and she said a few words of why she went to the White House Correspondent's dinner, and the market reacted. So go ahead, Rob, play the clip.
- [111:14]
Tom
May have big problems with illegal immigration in this country. I have to tell you, we have an even bigger problem when it comes to the systemic indoctrination and radicalization of our own citizens. This is what got my husband killed. This is what has led to three legitimate attempts on President Trump's life. And I can speak firsthand to that unbearable toll that this must take on our First Lady. There has never been a president who has faced this many assassination attempts in America's entire history. And after each one, the reaction from the far left has been, at best a shrug and in some cases, a sick disappointment that the shooter was unsuccessful. We are all human beings. And if you can just. If you can just pause.
- [112:14]
Pat
I don't think, Rob, this is the one that went viral was a short 20 second clip of what she said.
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Adam
This one, right?
- [112:19]
Pat
Is this the one? Go ahead, play this clip. Go ahead, Rob.
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Tom
Every morning I wake up to a new headline lying about me. I have comedians dressing up in white face. I have people saying I'm not fit to be CEO. And I have Candace Owens claiming I murdered my husband. And the list goes on and on and on.
- [112:45]
Vinnie
Okay, Vinnie, your thoughts before I even say anything. Because I know where people are going to go. I have, by the way, I prayed for this woman. I actually want her to succeed. I want nothing but the best for her and Charlie's children, number one. But she needs to step away as soon as possible. Okay? It's gone on. Step away as in, like, as CEO. Pat, get out of there. You said this a while ago, but be the chair. Be there. But this is like. If you're trying to replace Charlie Kirk, God rest his soul, it's impossible. You cannot do it, all right? He was the CEO of a huge, huge international organization of political organization. Pat, he's irreplaceable. You're not going to do it. And I'm sorry. And people are going to be butthurt. How dare you? Grieving widow. Enough with that nonsense. I'm not talking about none of that. I feel for her, okay? Because she thought that she could replace Charlie Kirk. You can't. Andrew Colvin, whoever that guy is, they're sitting there doing the Charlie Kirk podcast without Charlie Kirk nonsense. Rob, go to their channel. Go to the views of that podcast. Don't even go back and show Charlie's because it's in the millions. Nobody's watching it. Nobody's watching it. So whoever was behind it and all the people that were behind Charlie Kirk, it's working. Because TP usa, Pat, they're feeling it, okay? And I'm sorry. You show up to the White House Correspondent's Dinner, okay? You're taking photos of people. People are going to talk about you. You're taking. You went to the VIP thing with whatever his name is. You're taking photos and then there's a shooting in a place where you know. You know that the biggest targets are there. The president has already been. The assassination attempt has already been happened twice. All the major players are there. You're there. There's a shooting and you're crying, saying, I want to go home. You should be home. You haven't been home. You have two children at home. You're about to go on a tour and everything. I'm sorry, Pat. That's a man's job to be the CEO of Turning Point usa. Adam, I don't care what anybody says. That's a man's job. I'm not bashing anything about women. But this is a political huge organization, all right, with the biggest movement for Republicans. And he helped the president become the president. And I'm sorry if you can't take the heat. That's what CEOs do. I'm sorry. You went there to confront your critics. Your critics aren't there, Erica. They're not there. FOX is there. CNN is there. Those are cool people there. They're not bashing you. You think Candace and all these people are going to show up there. And I'm sorry. And again, I pray for her. You know, I do. I genuinely loved Charlie and I pray for her family. You don't have it. This isn't it. This isn't your bag. Step back. Let somebody else take it. Let somebody else take it. And I say this with pain in my heart. The people behind assassinating Charlie, this is what they wanted. Pat, the movement's weakened. Nobody's watching. You know what I mean? You're replacing it because you want to be in front of the camera. You want to take it and then complain about it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. This is what comes when you want to be the CEO of Turning Point usa, because everybody's coming after you. And when you're in front of the camera, they're all going to talk. We all know that. I guarantee. The comments are. Half of them are talking crap and half of them are saying, vinny is right. And that's what comes with the territory. Because I'm sitting in front of a camera, in front of a mic. Pat, she needs to just be the chair. Sit back when you go on stage. Pat. Fireworks. Erica Kirk, CEO Chair this isn't. This isn't the wwe. This is. You have children. Go take care of them. Go be with them. Let somebody take the. Take the reign, Adam. That's how I feel.
- [116:39]
Adam
I'll just read the Bible quote. You shall not afflict any widow or orphan child. If you afflict them in any way and they cry to me, I will surely hear their cry. And my anger shall burn hot, and I will kill you with the sword. And your wives shall be widows and your children orphans. That's from Exodus in the Bible. Whether you believe in God or not, the Bible is very explicit on how to treat a widow. I'm talking about a widow right now. I'll talk about the CEO in a second. I think what people have done to Erica Kirk is just shameful and disgusting how they're treating this person as a widow. I'll get to the CEO portion in a second. People have to take a long look in the mirror. I'm talking to people that were dancing on Charlie's grave. I'm talking about the people that are accusing Erica Kirk of killing her husband. As if this benefits her at all. As if she wants to be a widow. I don't want to go too far down that path. To me, it's just disgusting. Conversely, if she's in the limelight and she's in the CEO and you're claiming that a woman can be a CEO or whatever.
- [117:46]
Vinnie
I didn't say that.
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Pat
That don't.
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Vinnie
A lot of people are not for Turning Point usa.
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Adam
Okay, well, then you are.
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Vinnie
Sorry, then you are. I'm not you. You just blanketed me saying women can't be CEO when that. I said she can't be the CEO of a political organization. The CEO was. Because that's what comes with it.
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Adam
Okay?
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Vinnie
This is the territory that you're in. You might get shot.
- [118:05]
Adam
Okay?
- [118:06]
Vinnie
You think she can handle that with her two kids? Are you delusional? She can't handle it.
- [118:11]
Adam
I'm the one defending the widow right now, and that's not criticizing her.
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Vinnie
You do the biblical thing and tried to put it in a.
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Adam
You who read the Bible every day
- [118:19]
Vinnie
should read that book, but you. You're taking that.
- [118:21]
Adam
You who read the Bible every day should be out of.
- [118:23]
Pat
I want to hear your final thoughts. Keep going.
- [118:25]
Adam
My point is this as a. If you're criticizing a widow, look in the mirror. I'm not saying to you, Vinnie. I'm saying to the rest of the world, if you want to criticize her as a CEO and saying that this isn't her rightful job, cool. That's cool. But isolate the two. Now for the third point, the whole point that she. Crocodile tears, performative. She doesn't really care that her husband was murdered in cold blood. Where are we as a society that we feel like we can just jump down people's throat and criticize every word? And I get it. I got into a. I don't want to say, a debate, a full fledged conversation with my girlfriend. She goes, something's not right about her. I don't know, the crying, the rings, the outfits. I go, so what are you saying? She's like, well, I don't know. I just. I get a weird feeling about her. I go, well, do you Think she killed her husband. She goes, no, that's insane. I go, thank you. Because people are conflating her crying and fireworks and her being sealed with killing Charlie. I asked one question. What would Charlie think right now? That's my guiding light. What would Charlie think? He would say, oh, my God, I'm hopefully in heaven while my wife is there suffering and being criticized left and right while her husband has been shot and assassinated. My two kids are orphans, and people want to criticize her constantly. I think that Charlie had a plan in place. I think that Turning Point USA had a plan in place. I think that they put her in CEO as a reason. Do I think she's the best possible CEO? I don't. But for now, she's the CEO. And she, in my opinion, is waking up every day as tough as it is, saying, how can I fulfill what Charlie's legacy is and what he was trying to do? And it's not easy.
- [120:10]
Pat
I'm gonna come back to Vinny. Tom, go ahead.
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Tom
So a couple things. This is a woman who had no time to mourn in the middle of not just the loss of her husband, but a national tragedy with all the weight and all the heaviness and all the media coverage and everything that went with that. And we weren't in the boardroom when the board. They have. This is a nonprofit that has a board. You can go look it up. And there's like, four highly experienced men that are on the board of this. The board made the decision. Charities have boards. And whatever was in Charlie's wishes or a transition plan. Here they are. There it is. David Englehart, Doug DeGroat. By the way, Pat, you and I were in a vistage group with Doug DeGroote, Mike Miller, and Tom Sodaika and said, that's the board. And the board has a fiduciary responsibility to the charity license to make the choice. And they made the choice, and we weren't in there for that choice. But what I've seen unfold is the result on Erica of all the stress and everything that goes with it. How can this be easy? This can't be easy. And it concerns me seeing the outcome of Turning Point USA seemingly lose momentum. And I think that is really sad. Is that what Charlie did and how he helped with elections and was moving the hearts of kids on Christian foundation to good conservative thinking? And to see Turning Point losing that, that bothers me. And lastly to the verse. I'm going to moderate here real quick. On the verse you quoted, the verse in Exodus that is under the Mosaic law. And they were talking about the community's duty and to take care of widows. Why women didn't work and then didn't have economic capability to feed their children. And so they encouraged the community. Take care of the widow and the fatherless in your community. So we don't come into disrepute of saying that we don't care for God's kids under Mosaic law. Take care. That's what that was all about. And I don't. I see where you were going, but I don't see the application here.
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Pat
Yeah, okay.
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Adam
Because she works.
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Pat
What do you mean, because she works?
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Adam
He's saying that that law was. Or that that Bible verse was women didn't work. So the. So the. The difference is because she has a job now.
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Tom
You said you will not.
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Adam
We can dismiss how widows feel.
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Pat
No, I look at this in a very different way. I look at this in a very different way. Is there anything you want to tell Adam before I gonna say.
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Vinnie
Because, Adam, you're talking about the CEO situation. Do you realize her husband Charlie, when he was around and when he was assassinated, Security detail, ex military. That job that he has because she's trying to fill that role is one of the most dangerous jobs. And that proved it right then and there. So you want. I'm not, by the way, has nothing to do with you're taking over a political like. Do you understand. You understand what TPUSA was.
- [123:09]
Pat
Let me. Let me just go a different direction because you guys got your thoughts, I'll give my thoughts. And my position doesn't change. But there's another element to it that I've never shared before. So who do you think made the decision after Charlie was killed for her to become the CEO? The board or her?
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Adam
The board.
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Vinnie
I think her.
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Tom
I think it was the board.
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Pat
Okay.
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Tom
Most. Most organizations have a succession. It's part of the chart.
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Pat
So tomorrow, Tom, I'm part of the board. What advice do you think I give? What advice do you think I give if I'm part of the board? You've been in plenty of board meetings with me. You know what I would say. So let's do two things. Vinny says Erica chose to be the CEO. Okay, you're saying this to board. You're saying this to board. Okay. Can you run a poll? I'm curious what the audience thinks, because this is where I go with this. If it's the board, the board messed up. Why did the board mess up? If you ask me a question like that, do you Know what I'm gonna say? I'm gonna say, first of all, the conversation of you being CEO today is off the table if you ask me, because you're gonna get non stop criticism. It needs to go to somebody else.
- [124:28]
Adam
Hmm.
- [124:28]
Pat
Let's put somebody else that can take all the arrows that is coming in. Pick someone else. Who? I don't know. It can't be you. And I'm gonna ask Erica, I'm gonna say, what's the most important thing to you right now? To be a widow wife who lost one of the most important people in the political history ever. Maybe the most important voice that we have today. Do you want to go mourn and have the time to yourself? Two, do you want to be a mother or do you want to be a CEO? Which of those three is the most important to you? That question. If she said mother or mourn, it's guess what? I'm telling you. Step away for six months and just do your thing to get those two things right. We got it. We'll nominate somebody to be the CO to take all the arrows. And it's your job. Guess what? What? All the heat. You're getting paid to take all the arrows because that's what comes with the property of being a CEO. Now, if she says, no, I want to be CEO, then you know what I say? Why? Why do you want to be CEO? What's the benefit of being CEO? Why would you want to be CEO today? Because here's what happens. Like the part that makes it like that scripture you read from Exodus, old school. Moses is fair, but generally widows step away to mourn, of course. Okay, so you have two kids. They step away to mourn. They step away to mourn, to go do their own thing. Okay? And it's not like TP usa. She was a face of it. She was not. He was the face of it. That was his job. Okay, so you want to automatically take this position? No. So I think that applies to what the context was back in the days. There's a lot. Guys, there's a lot of weird conspiracy stuff about ERICA that comes 24 7. It's non stop. It's out of control. I've never been fan of the jewelry. I've told you guys, when I was there myself, I've never been fan of the Blink blink. I've never been fan of this. I've said that very clearly. I'm not. It's overdoing it. I never saw her with a lot of makeup. Then I saw her with a lot of makeup. I never saw her with a lot of jewelry. Now I see her with a lot of jewelry. That criticism happens when you're on the. What do you call it, on the big stage with the camera. But to me, all of this starts off with when an event like that happens, the board has an immediate meeting. You gotta ask the question, what's more important to you? Being a mom, mourning as a widow or being a CEO? And then imagine you're in the boardroom and the answer is, I want to be CEO. Tom, I would kind of be like, are you sure? Yeah, exactly. Are you sure? You sure you want to be CEO? Yes.
- [127:14]
Tom
Fast decision.
- [127:15]
Pat
Yeah. And so I would have said, guys, I don't know if I can contribute here because I don't think this is the right move. I think the right move is take a break, let the dust settle, get everything scored away. Then go. Then go. Because as much as people sympathize, I was at. We were at Casa de Angelos yesterday. You notice. I was 10 minutes. You're standing right next to me. This couple there were talking. What do you think they're talking about? You saw what they're talking about. Charlie Kirk.
- [127:48]
Adam
Oh, really?
- [127:49]
Pat
Yeah, she was talking about Charlie Kirk. The entire conversation was about Charlie Kirk. And she said, my oldest son, who's a grown man, was crying the day Charlie Kirk got killed. And I was telling a story about where we were at and, you know, with. Yeah, So I don't know. I think it goes all the way there. So you know what it is? If the story comes out, it never will. But if the story comes out from the board, that the board nominated her to be the CEO, I disagree with that decision. I think that's a bad decision. But if the story comes out that she chose to be the CEO, then guess what? You can't be upset with the criticism, because what you're telling the world is you can handle all the heat in the world and you're willing to take it, then this is a very, very nasty world we're living in. I got a call the other day from a guy. He asked me the weirdest question. This is a very well known guy. I won't mention his name because it was a private conversation. He is the best at what he's done the last 30 years. You know who his name is? Everyone knows who this guy is. We're going through the back and forth and he's asking me about some of the stuff that people are calling out and this and that. And he said, does it bother You. I said, no, it doesn't bother me. He says, how do you handle it? I said, the only thing that bothers me is like, one of my friends came and he says, you know how much stuff the previous company people are saying about you? I said, you don't need to tell me because the five people that I care about, their opinions, I already know what they think and I'm good, so don't worry about sharing it with me. I don't need to know. I'm at a different phase of my life. So, you know they're going to come after you. You know they're going to come and target you. You know they're going to do it. This is not a. Not everybody's a Christian. Not everybody lives by, you know, the same rules. Social media is nasty. Just go look at the stuff that they comment. It's very, very ugly. Comedians are going to come after you. The approach is to laugh at it. The approach is to say, hey, you know what? I guess you know, you've made it if Drew Ski is doing something about you. So people move away. You know, I guess, you know who had the worst situation in the last few years that changed his reputation? Tom Brady. What did he say? What did they make fun of him of?
- [129:56]
Vinnie
They did a roast trainer.
- [129:58]
Pat
It was the worst. Like the stuff that happened. So you, you, you were for, you know, a week, two weeks, a month, you were probably one of the most searched names in the world because everybody wanted to know where you were and you gave your message. The world stopped, the world watched. So I don't know, for me, as much as I see all of this stuff, and let me tell you, it's not fair this. It's not fair that I shouldn't be the CEO. I want to know what the board did. I want to go back to that board meeting, because if all those people are board members, did you guys really recommend her to be the CEO? Did you? Why? Why put that board and burden on somebody like that? Why? I don't know when Tom was in a bad situation. And by the way, I'm sure they're good people if we were part of the same vistage. I'm trying to remember him. I don't remember. This was probably in Northridge, California, when we were a part of that, but
- [130:47]
Tom
a long time ago.
- [130:48]
Pat
Yeah, it was a long time ago. 20 years ago, 15 years ago. But to me, the board has to make the decisions that are not about pleasing somebody. It's what's best for the organization at that time. And by the way, I'm just giving my thoughts. I'm not giving, like you said something that's very similar to what Whitlock said. A lot of the points you hit are the points that Whitlock hit it. And, And. And I saw that, and I thought he was being fair on what he said. And I. I watch a lot of this stuff the last 24 hours because I'm trying to see what people are saying.
- [131:19]
Vinnie
Did he say. Did he say that she shouldn't be.
- [131:21]
Pat
Yeah, he said you should step down. He said. He said, obviously, yeah, that part you didn't agree with, the woman part. No, but that's what he said.
- [131:28]
Vinnie
All right, but.
- [131:29]
Pat
But to me, Vinnie, to me, where I'm at. So to me, where I'm at is that board meeting. If there's anything I want to know. I don't want to see text exchanges, email exchanges. I don't want to know anything. I want to know what happened in that board meeting and what was advised.
- [131:44]
Vinnie
What.
- [131:45]
Pat
And then everything goes from there. If she wanted this job, you got to take all the criticism that's coming if they told you to do it. Why would you recommend a widow to be a CEO right after her husband got killed? Why? So that's my criticism. All the other stuff, the jewelry stuff, yeah, it's not my stuff, but everybody's different. Vinnie likes these, what do you call, type of watches. What do you call that? A transformer type of watch. Adam doesn't drive cars. It's better for society.
- [132:15]
Vinnie
But he like speaking Spanish. Uber driver.
- [132:17]
Pat
Right. Tom has his own things that he does. Everybody is different.
- [132:21]
Adam
Forewoman.
- [132:22]
Pat
But you cannot expect to be the position that you're in without not getting unfair level of scrutiny. And you have to ask yourself, when you're privately by yourself, how much of it did I attract? How much of it could it have been avoided? And that's a tough conversation to have, but long term, by the way, if all of a sudden, because it's this event, the tour is then canceled, what does it say? Who do you think chose to become the CEO? 53% are saying Erica Kirk.
- [132:48]
Adam
Well, how does that work if, like, they all have a say, they're board members. If she's like, I'm not saying that she did this. If she's like, I want to be the CEO.
- [132:55]
Pat
Okay, let me ask you say she said she wants to be the CEO. You're a board member. What do you say? You can actually give good advice and not being afraid of giving the, you know, what do you call it the controversial advice. What would you really say if she said she wants me give her advice as a sister?
- [133:09]
Adam
Well, number one, how quickly did they make this?
- [133:13]
Pat
Quickly, very quickly asked.
- [133:15]
Adam
Seven days. Okay.
- [133:16]
Vinnie
Seven days.
- [133:17]
Adam
Obviously, everyone was still in shock. It's a week later. I think the number one question they would ask is, are you really ready for this?
- [133:23]
Vinnie
This.
- [133:24]
Adam
Are you really?
- [133:25]
Vinnie
Right.
- [133:25]
Pat
No, forget about what they said. What would you say if I was a board? She says, I want to be the CEO.
- [133:31]
Adam
If she came and said that. Yeah, I, I would. I would gently grill her. Well, why do you want to be the CEO? Do you think you're.
- [133:38]
Pat
Is that natural? Is that not a natural state to question that?
- [133:42]
Adam
Of course, you have to.
- [133:43]
Pat
So to me, a part of this, Adam is on two people, her or the board. Nobody else? Well, nobody else. So it doesn't go anywhere. And I don't want to go deeper into this because I know people are going to call me and say, I can't believe you're doing this. You're doing that. Well, you know, already in it. Yeah.
- [133:59]
Adam
And you've said your position. Nothing that you said today was different, but we're kind of Monday morning quarterback. Where do you think it goes from here? Because she is the CEO, whether they. Whether the board or her.
- [134:09]
Pat
Oh, no. Where it goes from here.
- [134:10]
Adam
Where do you think it goes from here?
- [134:11]
Pat
It's not about where you go from here. You put yourself in a situation, man up. Nobody told you to be the CEO coming up. You know, you got to do it. Well, guess what? That's the criticism. Well, don't you criticism is ever.
- [134:23]
Adam
Was the CEO. If not for her, whoever would have been knowing today's society and climate and commentators, if they would have picked Bill McGee, whatever.
- [134:31]
Pat
Disagree.
- [134:31]
Adam
They'd be like, he killed Charlie.
- [134:33]
Pat
I disagree.
- [134:33]
Adam
He killed Charlie.
- [134:34]
Pat
Disagree.
- [134:34]
Adam
Why?
- [134:35]
Pat
I disagree.
- [134:35]
Adam
They would have done that to anybody. My.
- [134:37]
Pat
And by the way, at a. At a what scale? Same scale or less.
- [134:42]
Adam
If someone came out of the blue.
- [134:44]
Pat
No, no.
- [134:44]
Adam
Or even one of the board members.
- [134:46]
Pat
You know who you choose as a CEO at this position? Do you know what type of a CEO you choose? When something like this old and stable, you choose the most boring person that's trusted and that person does it because it's an interim CEO. That's the comeback. 6:12 months later, after everything is caught and running a poll getting the audience involved and let the audience say, we want Erica to be the CEO. Then she says, I'm willing to take the job. The sequencing was out of whack. So again, I'm not. I've always, you know, Charlie always had an offer where you could always call me. And he would call and we would have, you know, many different types of conversations, and I enjoyed every one of them. So, to me, it's actually binary. You chose to be the CEO. Lots of pressure comes with that. The board said, you better be the CEO, then the board screwed up. It's that simple.
- [135:43]
Adam
When you say binary, meaning if you're going to take the job, be ready for the.
- [135:47]
Pat
You don't have a choice. By the way, you know why would say don't.
- [135:50]
Tom
Not an if.
- [135:50]
Pat
You know why I would say don't take the job as a CEO. Do you know why I would say don't take the job as a CEO?
- [135:56]
Adam
Because of the widow component?
- [135:57]
Pat
No, not at all. Not at all. Never, ever, ever follow to put the pressure of being the shadow of a person that is a one of one. You never put the pressure of replacing the shadow is so massive. That's your husband. That is not a fair competition. You're not gonna replace him. You're not gonna be able to do what he does. There is no winning for you.
- [136:23]
Adam
I don't think she's trying to replace him.
- [136:25]
Pat
I think she's trying to fill him. But they have to think that way. They have to think that way. And to say that the shadow is there, and then the board made the decision. Okay, well, I don't know. To me, it's problematic. And it starts from there. So either the onus goes on the board or the onus goes on her. And that part of the criticism, dude, if something happened to. And I don't want to compare, but if something happens and you raise your hand for the job, you know what this means? What do you think this means?
- [137:04]
Vinnie
I'm ready.
- [137:04]
Adam
I'm ready.
- [137:05]
Vinnie
Let's go.
- [137:05]
Pat
No, you. What? What else does this mean? What else does it. You're losing the right to what?
- [137:11]
Adam
To complain.
- [137:12]
Pat
Complain about what?
- [137:13]
Adam
Any criticism.
- [137:14]
Vinnie
Anything.
- [137:15]
Tom
The road ahead.
- [137:16]
Adam
Yeah, but I think this is me from a business perspective. I'm with you. From a moral perspective, that the lies out there, the. The accusations. That's not. Doesn't come with the territory. There's no other CEO in America. He's accused of killing the former CEO
- [137:33]
Vinnie
going to come with the territory. And can I ask you.
- [137:35]
Adam
Well, that's a sad state of affairs in society.
- [137:38]
Pat
Adam gets one just because he's the CEO.
- [137:40]
Adam
Be ready to be accused of murder.
- [137:41]
Pat
The guy at the top had three assassination attempts on him. Accused of Being a pedophile. You know, they were accusing him of having sex with his daughter.
- [137:50]
Vinnie
Yep. You remember that?
- [137:51]
Pat
What's bigger than that? I mean, do you realize, like it's absurd. But that's what, but that's part of the pressure. You chose to be the president.
- [137:58]
Vinnie
Yep.
- [137:59]
Pat
Don't, don't feel, you know, you, I'm not going to sympathize for you.
- [138:02]
Adam
I hear you.
- [138:02]
Vinnie
And you chose this job and he asked one question and I want, I want you to answer it. You said because you were like, oh, everybody's going after. If Charlie right now would look down at him and say something to her, what do you think Charlie would say? You think Charlie Kirk would say keep. Take my. What do you think he would say? What would Charlie say? Hold on.
- [138:18]
Adam
Would have his wife's back.
- [138:20]
Vinnie
Hold on.
- [138:20]
Adam
Understand the challenges that she's so what
- [138:22]
Vinnie
would he say to her in regard to this situation before she's CEO? What is this?
- [138:26]
Adam
Something tells me that, that she and him and she's praying to him non stop. And something. I think we forget one thing. This woman did just, just come out of the blue, forget about the CEO for a second. This was this man's wife. I understand that they had kids together. You know, you always talk about the last person you hear. Do you know the conversations they had as she, as he was building this company? I don't look.
- [138:46]
Vinnie
So what would say to her? What do you think Charlie would say? God rest his soul. He's. He's gone and he has a moment. You think I'm curious. What does he tell her in that moment moment to be the CEO and take over everything.
- [138:57]
Adam
Do you think he's basically would be saying, you're doing a horrible job?
- [139:00]
Vinnie
I didn't say afterward. I'm saying in that moment, encouraging her and understanding. I think he would say challenges. Go take care and raise our children. You got. You're financially set for life.
- [139:10]
Adam
Why didn't she pick that at the beginning, Adam?
- [139:12]
Pat
And by the way, that's where the criticism.
- [139:14]
Vinnie
That's the criticism.
- [139:15]
Pat
And guess what? You know, this is not about. There's a reason why I don't touch this topic. Yeah, there's, there's one reason why I don't like to touch this topic because of one guy, Charlie. That's it. I don't like to touch this stuff.
- [139:28]
Adam
It's a weird thing to have this
- [139:29]
Pat
conversation and I feel it in the room right now. I speak here, assuming Andrew, one of the guys is going to watch it and say, now we know where they're at. And there's. I'm. I'm very comfortable with my positions. I won't go to sleep losing sleep over the fact that I'm being unfair. I don't worry about that. That. What I'm saying to you is, if this is my daughter, if this is my sister, my advice would be. Not right now. That would be my advice. Not right now. Okay. And you know, all the other stuff when. You know when people say stuff from both sides. Well, let me tell you. I think Charlie this. I think Charlie that. Those conversations are different conversations, but this is a very delicate situation. So I want to wrap up with this last story, and then we finish up. It is a Friday, so let's go with this story.
- [140:21]
Adam
Let's have some good news before we.
- [140:23]
Pat
I want to do this story, and then we'll wrap up.
- [140:25]
Adam
Okay.
- [140:26]
Pat
And we'll go and finish it up here. So there is a story that I sent you. No, this is it. This is Y47, Vinny.
- [140:35]
Adam
Wow.
- [140:36]
Vinnie
This is hilarious.
- [140:38]
Pat
You hit peak happiness according to science. Rob, can you please pull this up? Okay. According to this article. You know what it means?
- [140:47]
Vinnie
What?
- [140:48]
Pat
Yesterday was the last day you peaked. I was happy because today the great Vincent Oshana turns 48 years old.
- [140:58]
Vinnie
Today I'm not happy anymore.
- [141:00]
Pat
You're done.
- [141:01]
Adam
Pack it in, buddy.
- [141:02]
Pat
Come on in, guys. Come on in. Come on in.
- [141:04]
Vinnie
I'm depressed.
- [141:05]
Pat
Now the one and only Vincent Oshana turns 48. Bring the cakes, the balloon so we can start singing.
- [141:13]
Vinnie
Oh, no.
- [141:14]
Pat
Your brother's bringing.
- [141:16]
Vinnie
My younger brother. Big is here.
- [141:17]
Pat
On three. One, two, three. Happy birthday to you Happy birthday to you Vincenzo. Happy birthday, dear Vinnie we love you Happy birthday to you Happy birthday Happy birthday, Vinnie. Oh, man. Bingo.
- [141:39]
Vinnie
Wow, Vincent. Thank you, guys. As everybody knows. He knows. I know. You know, I tell people all the time. I'm not a birthday guy. My birthday. I call my mother Pat because it's my mom's day. My mom did everything my. I'm here right now because of my mom.
- [141:54]
Adam
I love your sweet Lana.
- [141:55]
Pat
We love you.
- [141:55]
Vinnie
So I. I don't take any credit. I'm just here. But I want to say I am so blessed, so lucky that God put you in my life. I'm here. I'm the best version of me I've ever been. I'm sorry. My brother's here. Who I freaking adore. I have the best family. I have the best friends. I have the best groups. Everybody here, everybody at valuetainment, everybody at home. I appreciate you guys, and I love you guys, with all of my heart. God bless everybody. And this is. Yeah, this is one of those moments, Pat. It's not about me. It's about my mom.
- [142:24]
Adam
47 today.
- [142:24]
Vinnie
I'm 48. Adam, I was happy last night, so shut up. Up. But I love you guys. Thank you, guys. Vinnie, thank you.
- [142:34]
Adam
Well, I got to say one thing about Vinnie, because four years ago this month, you joined Value.
- [142:39]
Vinnie
Ready for this? This how special this month is, Pat?
- [142:41]
Adam
What's your point, Adam?
- [142:42]
Vinnie
May 10th is four. Four years. May 31st. Kelly's birthday is my three years sober. Bingo. I remember that month.
- [142:49]
Adam
So happy you're here, brother. I, you know, one of the most common Manette questions I get, you know, are you and Vinnie really fight? I can't believe we do. We fight like this. We fight like brothers.
- [142:59]
Vinnie
Yeah.
- [142:59]
Adam
And then right after this, we'll go have lunch.
- [143:01]
Vinnie
100.
- [143:02]
Adam
This guy will make me lunch sometimes.
- [143:03]
Vinnie
Yep.
- [143:04]
Adam
I love you. I'm so glad you're here.
- [143:05]
Vinnie
Thank you.
- [143:06]
Adam
And future looks bright.
- [143:07]
Pat
I'm gonna say this to you, Vinnie. You know, I, I, I've had interactions with a lot of people in my life, and I've met a lot of cool people in my life. You are one of the coolest cats I've ever met in my entire life.
- [143:21]
Vinnie
Thank you.
- [143:22]
Pat
Genuineness, your heart, your character. My kids love you. Our family loves you. My dad loves you. You're one of a kind man. And. And I'm so glad that DM started on Instagram and it led to this. This cake I had from your mom this morning that your brother brought in, and him being here and seeing you going from there to the example you're setting to people around today, my. My boys look up to you. My sons look up to you. And when they see Uncle Vinnie, they're the happy obvious when he's around them. Brooklyn, can't wait to wish you a happy birthday. Can't wait. And when you shared the gift, he told us the gift that you gave this morning to him, that you messed him up before the podcast. That's a sick gift right there. 1973 Watch that your mother gave to your father.
- [144:08]
Vinnie
Yep. And he had it restored.
- [144:09]
Pat
Fix the watch. Restored and gave it to you this morning.
- [144:11]
Vinnie
Yeah.
- [144:12]
Tom
Yeah.
- [144:12]
Pat
Try to top that gift, Tom.
- [144:14]
Adam
Wow.
- [144:15]
Pat
I mean, I told Matteo real quick, quick, take my gift out of here.
- [144:20]
Vinnie
Like, I'm not. Like, he gives it to me right there. And I'm like, I'm about to get emotional.
- [144:24]
Adam
I'm like, I gotta, I gotta go
- [144:25]
Tom
in front of the camera.
- [144:26]
Vinnie
Right now, but I love you. Thank you.
- [144:27]
Pat
Love you, too.
- [144:28]
Vinnie
Thank you so much. When I'm not there, because they're all in California, which we always talk about. This is my family. When I'm. When I'm at your house, when I'm all around them and we're eating dinners and Dylan's sitting on me here. Tico's over here, Sen and all them are running around. It's like. It's like my family away from my family. And I love you and I appreciate you.
- [144:43]
Tom
You.
- [144:43]
Pat
Well, God willing, one day, everybody will move here. He'll get his act together and he'll move to Florida. Then we got to get Mom. We got to get. We got to get everybody.
- [144:49]
Vinnie
Everybody.
- [144:50]
Pat
Floridians, everybody. We're going to start growing the Syrian community in South Florida.
- [144:54]
Vinnie
Please, please.
- [144:55]
Pat
All right. For everybody watching, guys, do me a favor. Go manect the guy. Wish him a happy birthday. Send him some love.
- [144:59]
Vinnie
And can I say one thing?
- [145:00]
Pat
Of course.
- [145:01]
Vinnie
Valuetainment comedy. Rob, can you put that link up? We're at 990,000.
- [145:05]
Adam
Stop.
- [145:06]
Vinnie
All we need. We are less than 10,000 away from 1 million. That's my gift. Go to valuetainment comedy again. Let's go sub it, and let's do it. And I love you, Pat. Let's go by Monday. We want a million on Vinny.
- [145:21]
Adam
One million.
- [145:22]
Vinnie
Yeah.
- [145:23]
Pat
Happy birthday, gang. Have a great weekend. God bless. We'll do it again on Monday. Bye, bye, bye, bye.