Josh Hawley Challenges Minnesota AG In HEATED Fraud Hearing | PBD #738

Summary

PBD Podcast Episode #738 Summary

Title: Josh Hawley Challenges Minnesota AG In HEATED Fraud Hearing
Date: February 13, 2026
Host: Patrick Bet-David (“Pat”)
Co-Hosts: Tom Ellsworth, Adam, Vinnie
Notable Guests/Clips: Josh Hawley, Keith Ellison, Pam Bondi, Jennifer Seibel Newsom

---

Episode Overview

This episode of the PBD Podcast offers a high-octane blend of national news, political controversy, live reactions, and sharp debate. Highlights include an intense Senate hearing where Sen. Josh Hawley confronts Minnesota AG Keith Ellison over fraud allegations, a deep dive into the saga of the missing Epstein prison footage, fiery commentary on partisan politics, and spirited exchanges on the economy, Super Bowl halftime numbers, and cultural conversations. The episode ends with a heartfelt tribute to actor James Van Der Beek.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Epstein Files and FBI Footage Destruction

(07:27–24:57)

• Segment Summary:
  The episode kicks off with news that the FBI destroyed the master copy of Jeffrey Epstein’s prison surveillance footage, fueling further speculation about a cover-up.

• Facts and Flow:

  • Rob shares news that the FBI authorized destruction of Epstein's cell footage in 2024 after deeming the case “closed.”
  • The reconstructed video later released included a one-minute gap; initial explanations about system resets were unverified.
  • Panelists question the timing and motives, pointing to repeated procedural failures (e.g. deleted evidence from a previous suicide attempt, staff neglect, and suspicious activity around Epstein’s death), fueling skepticism of “routine” explanations.

• Conspiracy Angle:

  • Vinnie lists a series of inconsistencies and alleged protocol breaches, arguing this is why public distrust is high.
  • Adam references “Hanlon’s Razor,” asking, “Are these people just bumbling idiots, or is there malice at play?” (14:45)
  • Pat and others note the enduring intensity of the Epstein story and its bipartisan unifying distrust.

• Quotes:

  • “The FBI is the nation’s highest, most elite law enforcement... I’m shocked. I’m absolutely shocked.” – Tom Ellsworth (08:43)
  • “This is why people have questions like me all the time… Then they call us crazy.” – Vinnie (13:12)
  • “This continuing [lack of accountability]... this is not going to go away.” – Pat (44:48)

---

2. Pam Bondi’s Handling of the Epstein Files Hearing

(20:22–44:46)

• Review & Critique:

  • Pat and co-hosts analyze Attorney General Pam Bondi’s performance in a congressional hearing on the Epstein files.
  • Mixed reviews: Vinnie scores her 5/10, Tom rates her 2/10, citing her lack of composure and mishandled exchanges (esp. with Rep. Massey).
  • Debate over whether Bondi unfairly shoulders blame for a decades-long institutional failure—Adam uses a football metaphor to stress systemic problems.

• Notable Quotes:

  • “Don’t make the promises… Don’t come in front of the camera and say, ‘We have 10,000 videos and we’re going to show you,’... That’s the problem. She made the promise.” – Vinnie (39:58)
  • “There are certain jobs that everybody gets that’s way over your head… Take Bondi, move her off to a different job.” – Pat (41:54)

• Underlying Theme:

  • Cross-administration corruption and lack of accountability is discussed repeatedly.

---

3. Josh Hawley vs. Keith Ellison (Minnesota AG) Senate Hearing

(45:03–55:42)

• Audio Clips & Context:

  • Pat plays viral clips of Sen. Hawley’s “heated” questioning of AG Keith Ellison over his alleged role in Minnesota’s “Feeding our Future” COVID-era fraud scandal.
  • Hawley accuses Ellison of taking $10,000 in donations from individuals later indicted for a $250 million fraud and lambastes Ellison’s conduct.

• Memorable Exchanges:

  • Hawley: “It’s my hearing, pal.”
  • Ellison: “Don’t call me pal.”
  • Hawley: “Well, I should call you prisoner because you ought to be in jail.” (46:00)
  • Hawley: “Why’d you take their money?.. You helped fraudsters defraud your state and this government of $9 billion and you got a fat campaign contribution out of it. You ought to be indicted.” (49:01–49:19)

• Panel Reaction:

  • Praise for Hawley’s prosecutorial style and a broader conversation about the perception of “two systems of justice.”
  • Tom: “This should be referred to the Department of Justice and indictments should be brought down, but they don’t happen. And this is where American people say nothing’s going to happen.”

---

4. US Economy & Housing Foreclosure Crisis

(57:02–63:09)

• Segment Details:

  • The panel examines newly-released January 2026 foreclosure data—over 40,000 homes lost in one month, an 11th consecutive month of year-over-year increases.
  • Emphasis on how the lower half of the middle class is being crushed by inflation, debt, and stagnant wages.
  • Panelists stress homeownership risks and the importance of being financially ready before purchasing.

• Quotes:

  • “This is a sign of deep stress... It’s actually happening to the lower half of the middle class.” – Tom Ellsworth (57:02)
  • “If you don't have 12 months of expenses saved after the down payment—don't do it.” – Pat (62:41)

---

5. Stock Market Volatility & Investment Outlook

(64:18–71:04)

• Market Recap:

  • Analysis of major swings in the stock market—Dow surges on a strong jobs report but tanks $700 billion the following day.
  • Technical analysis (VIX index) shows overall risk is not at crisis levels, despite swings.
  • Pat revisits his 2022 prediction that the Dow will reach 50,000 by 2025–26, emphasizing long-term optimism and nuclear energy stocks as top performers.

• Quotes:

  • “It’s not timing the market, it’s time in the market.” – Adam (68:04)
  • “Long term—equities. Short term, there’s going to be some bumpy ride.” – Pat (70:44)

---

6. Super Bowl Halftime Show Ratings and ‘Bathroom Break’ Analysis

(74:00–84:59)

• Fun Segment:

  • The panel discusses Bad Bunny’s Super Bowl halftime performance, noting a sharp decline in viewership (allegedly a 39% drop from Kendrick Lamar’s show), and the odd stat of record-breaking toilet flushes during the show.
  • Lively debate about cultural diversity, authenticity, and pride in heritage vs. assimilation, using Bad Bunny and Latin American representation as talking points.

• Quotes:

  • “You can celebrate the rich Hispanic heritage of so many Americans... What the NFL did, it just didn’t work.” – Tom Ellsworth (101:48)
  • “Just say you love America.” – Pat (84:50)
  • “People want answers on what’s going on with Epstein. Two things can be true at once.” – Adam (18:40)

---

7. Urban Policy, Taxes & the Exodus from Blue States

(88:10–100:45)

• Highlights:

  • NYC and California budget crises: Speaker Mamdani (NYC) and Newsom (California) under fire for rising property taxes, municipal failures, and “alpha wife” moments.
  • Coverage of population and wealth flight; billionaires (Mark Zuckerberg included) relocate to Florida, citing poor governance and excessive taxation.

• Quotes:

  • “He left a multi-billion dollar surplus. Eric Adams. That Mandami is vaporized. And now he’s looking for even more.” – Tom Ellsworth (89:59)
  • “Come on down to Florida…” – Adam (97:41)
  • “...Come up with some pink jackets, people will buy.” – Pat, on California’s Planned Parenthood funding (94:05)
  • “This is what you voted for. Get ready. Buckle up.” – Tom Ellsworth (90:38)

---

8. Election Integrity: The SAVE Act & Voter ID Debate

(105:35–113:18)

• Key Points:

  • The SAVE Act passes in the House 218–213, requiring voter ID and proof of citizenship in federal elections—only one House Democrat supports it.
  • CNN panelists argue the law will “disenfranchise” minorities; Scott Jennings pushes back, citing overwhelming poll support for voter ID among all ethnic groups.

• Quotes:

  • “Are you saying that black voters are dumb to know what’s good for them? It sounds pretty condescending.” – Scott Jennings (109:28)
  • “It’s actually... disrespectful and racist to say minorities, they don’t know how to get IDs.” – Vinnie (116:51)
  • “Anybody against the Save America Act? You are part of the problem.” – Vinnie (112:31)

---

9. Media Critique: CNN’s Ratings Decline and Cable News Demise

(113:18–124:45)

• Discussion:

  • CNN’s audience has been cut in half since 2016; attributed to Trump’s absence, viewer disinterest in non-reality-based coverage, and the move to independent news sources.
  • Panel notes the growing dominance of podcasts and YouTube/podcasting for news consumption, confirmed with a live poll of viewers.

• Quotes:

  • “Podcasts, 91%. Where people are getting their news from. It’s changed. It’s a different market today.” – Pat (123:08)
  • “Can CNN save itself? Yes, but it’s going to be more layoffs and new leadership.” – Tom Ellsworth (120:17)

---

10. Heartfelt Tribute: James Van Der Beek

(127:39–136:16)

• Segment Details:

  • The episode closes with a tribute to actor James Van Der Beek, who recently passed away. Pat shares a moving clip wherein Van Der Beek reflects on identity, worth, mortality, and the power of faith during his struggle with cancer.

• Memorable Quotes:

  • “I am worthy of God’s love simply because I exist. And if I’m worthy of God’s love, shouldn’t I also be worthy of my own?... If the word God trips you up... your mantra can simply be, ‘I am worthy of love.’” – James Van Der Beek (129:11)
  • “If you judge your relationship with God horizontally, you’ll always be disappointed. But if you judge it vertically, you’ll be fine.” – Pat (136:13)

---

Notable Quotes and Moments w/Timestamps

• Tom Ellsworth (on FBI/DOJ): “The FBI is the nation’s highest, most elite law enforcement... [yet] destroying evidence, not preserving it. I’m shocked.” (08:43)
• Vinnie (on Epstein cover up): “Either they shut the camera off or they deleted it...so when people like us go, ‘Wait, are they lying to us?’ then they call us crazy.” (13:12)
• Josh Hawley to Keith Ellison: “It’s my hearing, pal... Well, I should call you a prisoner because you ought to be in jail.” (45:53–46:03)
• Scott Jennings (to CNN panel): “Are you saying that black voters are dumb to know what’s good for them? ... That sounds pretty condescending.” (109:28)
• Pat (on Pam Bondi): “There are certain jobs... that’s way over your head... Take Bondi, move her off to a different job.” (41:54)
• James Van Der Beek: “I am worthy of God’s love simply because I exist...My efforts to connect to God are an ongoing process... But if it’s a trigger...your mantra can simply be, ‘I am worthy of love.’” (129:11–131:53)

---

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Epstein Files/FBI Discussion: 07:27–24:57
• Pam Bondi Assessment/Epstein Hearing: 20:22–44:46
• Hawley vs. Ellison (Senate Hearing): 45:03–55:42
• Housing Foreclosures/Economic Discussion: 57:02–63:09
• Stock Market Volatility & Investment: 64:18–71:04
• Super Bowl/Bad Bunny Segment: 74:00–84:59
• Urban Policy & Taxes/NYC & California: 88:10–100:45
• Election Integrity/SAVE Act Voter ID: 105:35–113:18
• CNN, Podcasting, & News Media: 113:18–124:45
• James Van Der Beek Tribute: 127:39–136:16

---

Tone & Style

The episode mixes irreverent humor with heated political analysis and the hosts’ signature candor. It’s raucous and unfiltered—full of personal anecdotes and emotional asides—while also offering concise fact-based breakdowns of major news.

---

For Listeners Who Missed It

If you didn’t catch this episode, expect a whirlwind tour across the country’s most pressing political, economic, and cultural issues—with raw, live reactions, viral audio, and strong opinions. Tune in for the heated Hawley–Ellison showdown, sobering takes on the justice system, practical advice on the economy, and a poignant closing message on faith and self-worth.

---

Advertisement sections, intros, and outros have been omitted for clarity and focus on substantive content.

Transcript

[Tom Ellsworth]

Did you ever think you were making?

[Adam]

I feel I'm supposed I could take.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Sweet victory.

[Adam]

I know this life for me.

[Pat]

Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever saw.

[Tom Ellsworth]

It's right here.

[Pat]

You are one of one.

[Tom Ellsworth]

My son's right about.

[Pat]

I think I've never said this. All right, guys, One day away from the weekend to be here and we're doing a Friday podcast. Looks like my voice kind of came back this morning a little bit. Me and Alex were having a hard time yesterday. I don't how many shots I took, but by the way, we took olive oil shots. A couple of them in here. Then, you know, Mikel brings these shots, we take it. Then Mikhail brings something in a cup that he made. Alex goes like this. But we had a great conversation. Anyways, we got a lot of stories. It looks like Homeland Security shuts down tonight at midnight. ICE will still be doing its thing, but I think tsa. Rob, did you say TSA is going to take a hit? Who else?

[Rob]

A few other government organizations.

[Pat]

Okay, so that's that. Here's a cow. She telling us what the Fed decision is going to be in March. Fed maintains rates 93%. Fed cuts 20 basis point 25. 8% more and more than 25. 2%. So we'll see what's going to happen there. Maybe we'll talk about that.

[Tom Ellsworth]

And we should dive into it with the stock market.

[Pat]

Yeah, we will. And then numbers came back about super bowl halftime show Bad Bunny, where he ranks for the most viewership, where he topped. Curious what you think without looking at the data, but the most important data that came up that Umberto just shared with me is toilet flushes. Okay. Toilet flushes. I have never heard of this before, but he said every year NBC News sends a report of how many times the toilet was flushed, literally. This is a story. And that shows people's interest of walking out to go to the bathroom or watching the show. I don't know what it means. We'll talk about that. Trans lover of Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin spotted after going into hiding. Adam's got some thoughts on that. J.B. pritzker says he'd move. He. He'd. He's had to overcome his wealth, which would be an obstacle in 2028, him being wealthy. It's an obstacle for him running in 2028. Gavin Newsom's wife skulls reporters at Planned Parenthood funding. Bills. Signing, signing. She just jumped in. She just jumped in. And it was. Was very Interesting when you see that. US to send 200 troops to all combat Christian persecution in Nigeria Transgender killer 18 behind deadly Canada school rampage that left 8 dead is seen griping rifle in disturbing image. Is this another clip Rob, than the one we played yesterday? Okay, here we go. More disturbing stuff. Trump threatens chilling escalation in Iran as he meets with Netanyahu not seen since Gaza. Trump after good meeting with Netanyahu Nothing definitive on Iran as Pentagon prep second carrier Only one house stem voted in favor of voter ID proof of citizenship in US elections I love what Scott Jennings did today. There's a clip wrap I have on my notes if you want to pull it up and prepare it. Hot Girls for Mandani co creator pushed wild anti Israel 911 conspiracy theories. Adam's got thoughts on that. Lawmaker makes a fool of anti ice sheriff who can't answer basic questions about governors. By the way, this is probably one of the most embarrassing clips I've ever seen. The man is dressed in his uniform, four stars here. Looks money but he doesn't know the three different branches that we have and he doesn't know which one he works for.

[Adam]

Oh man. What?

[Pat]

Literally. I don't know if you guys seen it, seen this or not. It's amazing. So we'll react to that. LA ice crabs illegal immigrant 30 who sodomized child under the age of 10. Tom's got thoughts on that. We got a few other things here to go through. And then top five moments of the Bondi. Adam wants to react to it. Well, obviously we haven't done it yet. Wall street roars higher than after blockbuster job reports smashes forecast Then the market kind of tanked a little bit yesterday. Not a good day. It's all red. I don't know how much money was lost yesterday, but a lot of money was lost yesterday in the stock market. Foreclosure bloodbath deepens as banks seize 40000 homes CNN numbers Guys, this is embarrassing. Has nearly lost half of its audience and all its relevance in the past eight years. When you see these numbers, it's. It's unreal when you look at these numbers. Maybe it's not for some people. Harley, Minnesota attorney general get into shouting match. One of the best clips to show you guys. It's disturbing to watch it. Mamdani meets with the Minneapolis mayor in New York City to discuss protesting migrants. What is Save America act mandates voter id. We'll go into that and when there we got a few other clips to get into here of what is taking place CBS News considering new round of layoffs could affect 15% of staff. Dow Jones crashes 700 points yesterday. Why the U.S. market is down today. Five key reasons behind the Dallas crash. Vinnie, what do we have going on here today?

[Vinnie]

Well, a new faith over fear hat is coming soon to a theater near you. But I just wanted to. This morning I was listening to Billy Graham, which Pat, you told me to, to listen to him. You're like, you know, Vinnie, dive in and listen to him. So I'm getting ready in the morning, I'm just listening to Billy Graham and he said something that I hadn't heard in a while and it was the apostle Thomas. When Jesus rose from the dead, Thomas wasn't there to see the resurrection. So Thomas goes, I'll believe that he rose if I get to put my hands in his wounds and in his side. So then he finally sees Jesus and, and he goes in there. He goes, go ahead Thomas, go ahead, put your put your hands in here. And Jesus looks at him and goes, because you have seen me, you believe. Blessed of those who haven't seen me and still believe it. In that moment, Tom, it hit me. He's talking about us, okay, we weren't there. We didn't see Jesus walk, we didn't see him die, we didn't see him rise from the dead. But we believe. And that is faith in real time. And he's talking about us. And the last one you mentioned, the story about the Nigeria, that we're sending 200 troops, Trump is sending 200 troops. They're saying they're not going to do anything crazy. But think about that, think about the priests, think about the parishioners in those churches that, that were bombed and murdered and slaughtered and they were in that church praying and saying, please help. That is faith over fear in real time. And that's how, that's what we're about and that's what the brand is about. And I can't tell you how many people see me with the shirt, cuz the shirt's on the back and just tap me on the back and go, I'm with you. Or they see this hat and they go, where can I get that hat? So you go on vtmerch.com get the hat. We have the hoodies we have here am I. Send me. Which is Isaiah, chapter six, verse eight as well. But yeah, just go to vtmerch.com and pick it up. Spread the word.

[Pat]

By the way, if you work with Vinnie every day, you would see how much he's changed in the Last three and a half years since being here. His commitment to his face is faith is unbelievable, and everybody around him feels it. Okay, all right, so let's get right into it. Rob, what story should we get into first?

[Rob]

The first story that everybody wants or is voting for in the chat is the FBI destroying the Epstein prison footage.

[Pat]

What is that, Rob?

[Rob]

So it turns out here I have a news article on it. It turns out that the department of the FBI may have destroyed the tapes of Jeff.

[Pat]

Page 11. Okay, let me read it and we'll get into it. So Epstein files reveal FBI authorized destruction of master copy prison footage in 2024. Page 11. Is this it, Rob?

[Rob]

Yes, sir.

[Pat]

Go for it.

[Adam]

New documents show the FBI destroyed its.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Master copy of surveillance video from the.

[Adam]

Night Jeffrey Epstein died before public demands.

[Vinnie]

For its release grew. When the agency later put out footage.

[Tom Ellsworth]

It was a screen recording with a one minute gap.

[Vinnie]

Officials initially blamed a nightly system reset.

[Tom Ellsworth]

But records show that theory was never verified.

[Vinnie]

Congress later released the full video, including the missing minute, which showed nothing unusual.

[Adam]

The Justice Department has not commented.

[Pat]

Rob, what is this?

[Rob]

This is a report that came out, I believe, two days ago that the FBI destroyed the original master copy of the jail cell video, which may or may shown somebody sneaking into Epstein's jail cell on the day of his death.

[Pat]

How do you process that, Tom?

[Tom Ellsworth]

Well, the FBI is the nation's highest, most elite law enforcement. When we have things across state lines, when we have things that are major frauds, they partner with the SEC on major financial fraud. But here you have the highest. The, the elite of our law enforcement is actually destroying evidence, not preserving evidence. I'm shocked. I'm absolutely shocked. This kind of takes it back to when the FBI, and now we've seen it, you know, 60 years later, how there is evidence from the Kennedy assassination that was not preserved that it was missing and it just, it'll. It. What it leads to is the public. And I'm part of that, just doubting, you know, it's like, how can you have faith? An organization is supposed to be investigating one of the most significant crimes we have, of the most significant player in this, in insane, you know, scandalous, horrible, multi level crime operation that apparently that was going on on that island and the guy that gets killed, the evidence isn't preserved.

[Pat]

When, when was this destroyed?

[Tom Ellsworth]

It just destroys my faith in the law enforcement.

[Rob]

Destroyed, Rob I believe, according to the emails, it looks like it was destroyed the day or the day after Epstein's death.

[Pat]

So it says in June 2024, an FBI agent was granted authorization to destroy an evidence item labeled 1B61B60, which turned out to be the master copy of the prison surveillance video from Epstein's final hours. The FBI described this destruction as routine because the underlying criminal case was closed and the evidence was considered no longer pertinent. Later, when the Justice Department needed the footage again in 2025, they did not have the original master copy. So they work to reconstruct footage from a secondary system recording. The reconstructed video has a gap of about 62 seconds. That wasn't captured that. But. But who destroyed it and when they.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Destroyed it two days after he died.

[Pat]

Who's they? What is this FBI agent's name? Do we know?

[Rob]

They don't. It's redacted in the files right here. It's the. The black bars in this email.

[Pat]

So XYZ advised. Rob, can you please read the blue?

[Tom Ellsworth]

Sure.

[Rob]

Redacted Advised that the only one hard drive of the camera system was working at the time of the incident. On August 10, 2019. When a DVR went bad, none of the cameras recorded. There was a system failure of DVR2 on July 29, 2019, and the motherboard failed on DVR2 on August 8, 2019. 2019. The hard drive failure occurred on August 10, the same day Epstein died. 2019. After the incident redacted was asked about the cameras. There were two new hard drives to install. But installing the new hard drives would mean that all prior data would be lost. The warden wanted video, and so Redacted was told to start working on the system. Redacted started removing the bad drives in order to rebuild the dvr. Redacted advised that an FBI agent was the one who pulled out the dvr. Redacted Also advised that he knew that by replacing both hard drives, the system would be wiped and that he had advised personnel at MCC of that.

[Vinnie]

Like, could we take a second?

[Tom Ellsworth]

So they knew what they were doing two days later.

[Vinnie]

Tom, thank you for saying that. Can we just all for one second get on. On the same page?

[Pat]

Why?

[Vinnie]

Why? Why would the FBI do that? So two things have. One of these has to happen. Either he was removed, many cameras down footage, everything. Get him out, put a body in there and just say, oh, was Epstein because they fumbled everything or number two, someone came in, killed him, and then they left. And they don't want to show it. So let me just really fast, Pat. This is why people have questions like me all the time. When he tried to kill himself on July 23, that footage was accidentally deleted. Okay. He said himself he was assaulted and he did not commit attempt suicide. Then again, against protocol, they moved him out of suicide watch and six days into unit without constant monitoring. On the night he died, the guards missed the 3am and the 4am rounds. They apparently fell asleep and browsed the Internet. Both later admitted they falsely recorded records for that night. His cellmate was removed two days before he died. Protocol again messed up. One day before his death, he made an unmonitored phone call, violating prison policy, claiming he was calling his mother. By the way, she'd been dead for years. And then the cameras malfunctioned. All right? And then the jail itself hadn't seen a death in 21 years. Okay? And then there's a 4chan post by prison guard Roberto Grivalva, made hours after Epstein died, claiming Epstein was wheeled out, shackled in a wheelchair. The night before, an unauthorized trip van arrived without logging in, and a person inside the wear was wearing an army uniform. Think about. Think about that. And then the crime scene was destroyed. Immediately after he was killed, our inmates reported hearing shrieks from his cell that night. Officials dismissed the reports. His body was found near seated, kneeling position with his body one or two inches off the floor. Ligature around his neck. The marks didn't match the bed sheet. Pat, all of this aligns to. Either they shut the camera off or they deleted it. Somebody came in, grabbed him, they put a body in there, and they were like, all right, clean that scene up and leave. So then when people like me go, dude, the guy might be alive because they never released an actual photo of him at kha. It was always from the side, and he had a hook nose. And as everybody could see, he doesn't. That's not the. That's not the facial structure of. Of Epstein. None of it makes sense. The only thing. And then when people like us go, wait a minute, are they lying to us? Then you put these facts in, and then they call us crazy. It doesn't.

[Pat]

By the way, when this happened, the sitting president was Biden and the sitting FBI director was Chris Wray. Just so you know that. It's important to know that when that took place. Adam.

[Adam]

So here's what's going on in my mind. There seems to be all the stories regarding Epstein when he's in prison. Like, there's a missing minute now things are being deleted.

[Vinnie]

Well, they were.

[Adam]

The cops are falling asleep. This is why people have so many questions. And the story will not die. So what's the thing you talk about? Hanlon's razor what it is, what's the definition of that? Never attribute to malice, which can be explained by stupidity. Either everyone that's in charge of the jail and the prisons and the DOJ is just bumbling, fumbling idiots, or there's genuine malice going on here. It can't be both. Can you just be dumbling, fumbling, mumbling idiots who are also trying to cover up everything? That's the challenge I have here. Pick a lane, guys. Either be like, yep, we cleaned it all up. Sorry, nothing to see here, or we're absolute buffoons, we're running the government.

[Pat]

But.

[Vinnie]

But that's the problem. But you remember it was about a year and a half ago and we were on the old set and you were like, guys, nobody cares, on the list of priorities of Americans, blah, blah, blah. And here we are a year and a half later, Adam. It's the number one talk thing about now, by the way. And it's not gonna stop. It's gonna keep going. Because it's the latter, Adam. It's. They're covering up because there's billionaires, there's powerful people. He was extremely powerful. He worked with the CIA, he worked with Mossad, all these people. He did all these favors and then he's in jail. It's not so far fetched to go, hey, listen, we're going to arrest you because we have to arrest you. We're going to make it look, the cameras are going to do this, the guards are going to sleep, we're going to look like you killed yourself, and then we're going to send your ass off to another country, grow a beard and live somewhere else. It's not that hard, Adam. It's not that hard when. Guess what? When you say, when we do this, the FBI deleted it.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Fact.

[Vinnie]

Okay? Cash Patel is saying there's nothing's here. Bs and now we know. And guess what? We can't do nothing about it.

[Adam]

So.

[Vinnie]

Nothing about it.

[Tom Ellsworth]

You don't even have to go that deep, Vinny. No, no, I respect what you're saying, and I follow that line of thought in a lot of ways, but you don't even have to go that deep. The one minute is exactly the time when an assassin would need to get in to do it for sure. And medical examiners around the US all said, you know, the limited pictures are there. If that's not a stage picture and this isn't here, then that doesn't really line up with this kind of a death. So you have medical examiners saying, shouldn't we look at this. This doesn't look right. And then you have the minute missing of exactly the time to get someone in there. Just stop right there.

[Vinnie]

Yeah, you're right.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Just stop right there. And then say, why would you erase the hard drive? Or would you do things to erase it? Remember, they erased a hard Drive in 1963 in Dallas, Texas, and his name was Lee Harvey Oswald. Right. If you think of it that way, when you lose evidence at the exact appropriate moment.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Tom Ellsworth]

I mean, come on.

[Vinnie]

And if you. When you do stuff like this and then you have people like us questioning it, they call us crazy. It's like when you have a pizza shop in Washington and the owner and Podesta and his brother are all talking weird stuff about $60,000 worth of pizza and. And kids and bring the kids in the hot tub and everything, and then we're called crazy. No, no, you guys are crazy because you're horrible at covering up your crap. Because evil is evil. At the end, when you talk about bad policies have bad consequences, your stupid, evil, demonic selves are gonna show yourselves.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Take a look here.

[Vinnie]

Light always wins.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Rob just ran this. Lip hat talk. Look, Rob just ran this poll.

[Pat]

I saw it. I saw it. That's our. 52% believes he's still alive, which is 44% believe he was killed. 5% believe he killed himself. Suicide.

[Adam]

Nobody thinks he killed himself. Can I just respond to this real quick? By the way, I'm with you on how passionate you are. Don't misconstrue me not making this a top three issue in my life.

[Vinnie]

You said the. What? You said the country doesn't. You said, nobody's gonna. Nobody cares. Nobody. And now look at how. Adam, what's the number one thing right now? I'm gonna give you the stock market. Everybody's like, yeah, the stock market. Nobody gives a damn. It's perverted, pedophile, probably cannibals, probably disgusting demons are running the show, and they're untouchable.

[Adam]

I mean, I'm with you. I'm gonna.

[Vinnie]

Yeah, so it's not you.

[Adam]

I'm gonna talk slowly. So I'm with you. It's not just me. It's the data. Six months ago, we ran the data of. They said, what are the top issues that everybody in the country is focused on? And it showed one for Epstein. Like, I'm talking the entire country. And we go, oh, 1%. And they go, no, one person had this in their top three. So two things can be true at once. Everyone is worried about the border, immigration, their pockets Affordability, their family. Like that is the number one issue for everybody. Separately. We could also want answers on what's going on with Epstein. Two things can be true at once. It's not just whether this is my number one story or not. My one number one story is irrelevant. People want accountability. I totally get that. But none of this is affecting genuine people's lives. Last thing, something that I focus on. Maybe some people can use this little trick. It's sort of a Venn diagram. It's things that matter and things that you can control and where you should focus or where those two things intersect. We have no control over Epstein.

[Pat]

No, no, but this, but this is.

[Adam]

Do we have control over Epstein in.

[Pat]

The document if that's the case?

[Adam]

Can't even do it.

[Pat]

If that's the case. What the hell are we doing a podcast for?

[Adam]

I'm not.

[Pat]

You see, control over the stock market. You think you have control over, you know, Bad Bunny. You think you have. This is called a discussion for the audience to sit there, and they want to see what different people's opinions are. What I'm saying, discuss it.

[Adam]

I, I, I understand, but we're not investigating.

[Pat]

I understand. Having control or not having control. The audience. We're reacting to the different stories that are coming up. PAM Bondi on, on 0 to 10. How do you think she performed, Pam? Overall?

[Vinnie]

Overall, I think she's doing an abysmal job.

[Pat]

No, no, no. The hearing.

[Vinnie]

Oh, the hearing.

[Pat]

Hearing.

[Vinnie]

I give her a 5. She was right in the middle because I, you know, she was fighting back. But all that like this saying the stock market is good and all the other stuff that was happening.

[Pat]

Why do you give it a two?

[Tom Ellsworth]

I give her two. I thought, and I don't want to, I don't want to give that. But guess what? I got to call balls and strikes. And I, the, the answer she gave the. A couple of the redirections she had. She had one interchange with a.

[Pat]

What, what clip was the most disturbing for you? And what clip, Vinnie, was the one that was most impressive for you on her behalf.

[Vinnie]

The clips that I saw of her calling them out on their BS and all their relationships and Jamie Raskin's connection and Hakeem Jeffries, who talking all this trash he was taking. He was begging for campaign funds from Epstein after he was already caught being a pedophile. And just if you don't mind, just really fast.

[Adam]

I just.

[Vinnie]

2, 20 seconds. Adam. We were worried about the border. We were worried about the economy, everything, because it was all messed up. Trump Fixed it. And now that it's fixed, everybody's back to number one being Epstein. That's the whole thing.

[Pat]

Go. Go to Crockett. Go to Crockett. Go to Crockett. Rob, this is one of them that Vinnie was talking about. Yeah, right there. Watch this here. This is the ending. I'm assuming this is the one I sent you.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Okay, Go for it. Go back. Go back.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Convicted homicide, arson, weapon, offense. Convicted.

[Vinnie]

So what we talking about? Convict some of these perpetrators that raped.

[Pat]

These women that are sitting.

[Vinnie]

Time belongs.

[Adam]

To even acknowledge they are here.

[Vinnie]

Time belongs. Gentleman from Kansas.

[Pat]

Mr. Chairman, could I have a few seconds back?

[Tom Ellsworth]

Texas from Cuba.

[Pat]

How about yourself? What was the clip for you where you said, you know, that was to. To cause to give a two.

[Tom Ellsworth]

I hated. I hated the whole segment between her and Massey getting into it.

[Pat]

Okay, got it.

[Tom Ellsworth]

That was just Wexner.

[Pat]

Why didn't you. I made you. Yeah, that whole part. Yeah, yeah.

[Tom Ellsworth]

It's like. And by the way, they're on the same team. They wearing the same jersey under all this?

[Pat]

I don't know if they're on the same.

[Tom Ellsworth]

No, no, hang on. They're supposed to be wearing the same team. We have midterms coming up. We had a lot of things going on, and Thomas Massie on the Republican side has kind of become like a, you know, a Joe Lieberman kind of in the middle, kind of a wild card. And I just didn't like that. I just didn't like it at all. I thought it was a bad look. I didn't think it was a good answer. And I thought them. They really got into it. It just. She. She didn't look poised. Didn't look like an Attorney general. You know, you're on top of her facts and everything. And I was. I was disappointed. I was really disappointed. I didn't want to see this.

[Pat]

Got it. Makes sense. Rob played a clip, respond, and then.

[Vinnie]

The gentleman can move to chairman.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Within 40 minutes.

[Vinnie]

You asked me a question. Within 40 minutes, Wexner's name was added back.

[Pat]

Within 40 minutes of me catching you red handed.

[Vinnie]

Red hand.

[Tom Ellsworth]

There was one redaction where he's listed.

[Pat]

As a CO Consent.

[Tom Ellsworth]

And we invited you in. This guy has Trump derangement syndrome. He needs to get. You're a failed politician.

[Pat]

Please restore his time and remind the witness of the rules.

[Rob]

Here is no credible information.

[James Van Der Beek]

None.

[Pat]

Got it. Well, I mean, listen, it is. I couldn't find a reason to celebrate it. Rob, can you pull up the tweet on what I posted yesterday about what Certain things we become united on my opinion. So if you go to the. To the third one. Yeah, right there. The Epstein files have become the biggest black guy to the administration. There are few issues that unite Americans. Cross politics, religion and income levels. Protecting kids is one of them. The last three administrations failed to address it. This was an opportunity to finally confront it head on. The attack, deny and never apologize. Playbook doesn't work when children are involved. Yes, there's a lot to celebrate. Murder now, 20% border more secure. America projecting strength. Markets performing well. But none of that matters to parents if kids aren't protected. It's also true many on the left are more focused on taking out drunk Trump than protecting children. Otherwise this would have been a priority years ago. Still, this has been badly mishandled. When it comes to kids, transparency and accountability aren't optional. Major fumble. No other way to say it. By the way, did you guys see the clip of Epstein's butler? The camera. And by the way, I just had Rob right now fact check it before we show it. This is a real clip. Okay? So watch this. Rob, if you can play this clip. Little disturbing when you watch this.

[Vinnie]

What is it?

[Pat]

You know which one I'm talking about.

[Adam]

I saw.

[Vinnie]

I just randomly.

[Pat]

This is the butler. Watch this. Go ahead. If you hire somebody, I would be fired in seconds. But back to the computers. Let's talk about this.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Did you ever see anything on those computers?

[Rob]

Anything?

[Pat]

Yeah, Edges of burrows. Exactly. I saw it. So remember I told you there was Islam Maxwell had an office under the stairs next to the kitchen. Yes. There's the computer. Who was a radiator with water. First time in my life. I saw that to keep it cool. Because they used to download pictures like.

[Tom Ellsworth]

This, just like that. What kind of pictures?

[Pat]

Naked girls from all from Sweden, from Romania, from Czechoslovakia, from Brazil, from writers.

[Tom Ellsworth]

All young girls.

[Pat]

Very young, very young.

[Tom Ellsworth]

But when you say very young, how.

[Pat]

Young are you talking?

[Tom Ellsworth]

The teenagers, they would have races, Most of them younger.

[Adam]

Younger than that, though.

[James Van Der Beek]

Yeah.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Yeah.

[Rob]

Okay.

[Tom Ellsworth]

And this guy from Citrix, he erased.

[Rob]

All those images, I assume.

[Pat]

I'm assuming, yeah. Because were you there if you had somebody. Yeah, these are the people he's talking.

[Vinnie]

And then he died on the 2014.

[Pat]

Yeah, he died 2014, but he died because of cancer. That's what he died for. I don't want to put it like he died from anything else anyways. By the way, here's. Here's the question I ask Alex. I'm going to ask you, Vinnie, how much longer you think this story is going to last. Epstein, they got. President Trump's not been president for how long? 13 months.

[Vinnie]

You're in a year and a couple months. You're in.

[Pat]

Is it 13 months? Thirteen months, right. A little less than 13 months. Yeah. A little less than 13months. He's got three more years left. How much longer will this be a story? How much longer? We know how much longer he wants it to be a story. Obviously, you know, he's talking about it yesterday and Trump says, why do you. Why do. I don't even understand why people care about Epstein. And Lutnick is in the back laughing. Do you see that clip? Is this it, Rob?

[Rob]

This is President Trump being asked about Lutnick's involvement in the house.

[Vinnie]

Visited Epstein's island.

[Adam]

And do you continue to have.

[Pat]

No, I wasn't aware of it.

[Adam]

No, I didn't.

[Tom Ellsworth]

I actually haven't spoken to him about it. I wasn't.

[Pat]

But from what I hear, he was.

[Adam]

There with his wife and children and.

[Tom Ellsworth]

I guess in some cases, some people were. I wasn't. I was never there.

[Adam]

Somebody will someday say that I was never there.

[Pat]

You notice how much he goes back to I was never there. He always goes back to I was never there. I think the part of it here, you know, when the audience watches, there's things you can laugh at, there's things you can laugh off. You know what I'm saying? There's certain things you cannot laugh off, you know, like even if we do a story and, you know, I'm doing a story and we're joking about certain stories, certain stories you can't even joke about, you know what I'm saying? So here, I think this is it, Rob, if you want to play. Yeah. Watch this.

[Vinnie]

To talk about how to respond to the Epstein situation.

[Pat]

I don't know. I could ask you that question. I don't know of it, but I.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Including fake news, want to keep something.

[Adam]

Like, like that going.

[Pat]

But credible information, let. Listen, I don't know, guys. You know, we're fans of Lnick big time. We're fans of, you know, the work that he does. But what, what do you look for when you play poker against somebody for six hours? You look for what a tell. Maybe laughing is his tail and maybe he's got, you know, I, I don't know. Do you understand what I'm saying?

[Vinnie]

A thousand percent. And by the way, again, I've always said that I'm one of his biggest fans because of what he's doing and the way that he, he addresses the Camera and stuff. But if we're going to be honest, he sat in front of that interview, podcast, whatever you want to call it, and he's like, no. He invited us to his house in Manhattan. We walked in, we saw the massage chair, and I was like, ugh. And that was it. Now we find out, because of the files, you took your wife and your kids to the island. Like, this is the clip, right, Rob?

[Tom Ellsworth]

Yes.

[Vinnie]

You played this one. And then left. We left.

[Pat]

And in the six or eight steps.

[James Van Der Beek]

It takes to get from his house to my house, my wife and I decided that I will never be in the room with that disgusting person ever again.

[Pat]

So I was never in the room.

[James Van Der Beek]

With him socially for business.

[Vinnie]

Okay, stop it. And then, guys, and let's just call a spade a spade. Then you come out and you say that you took your wife. And here's my thing. After someone's been convicted of being a disgusting, underage pet, whatever you want to call it, you're going to take your wife and kids and fly them to the belly.

[Tom Ellsworth]

The deal. After the deal.

[Vinnie]

After the.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Sorry, the plea deal.

[Vinnie]

Deal. The plea deal. What are we talking about? So they're lying. So to answer your question, Pat, I don't see this thing going away until actual people go to prison. Because people like me. I'll let you talk, Adam. People like me, and I've said this, I want to say 50 times here. Let justice be done though the heavens fall. You don't see it like that because of the institutions, and I get that. But let me ask you this question, Adam. Do you think God. You think Jesus Christ is cool? And if he was here right now and he's like, oh, they're using it as leverage? All the rape and probably murder and cannibalism of kids. Yeah, yeah. Use it as leverage so this other country, we don't go bankrupt. You think Jesus Christ would be cool with leverage for pedophilia and murder? Nah, I'm sorry, bro. That's not what my religion is about. That's not what God in Christ is about. I want people to go to prison. We just saw Pat, who's the Goldman Sachs lawyer. She just stepped down yesterday. They're all connected. The banks, the presidents, the billionaires, the millionaires, Bernie Sanders. They're all of them. All of them. And the light is coming out. This. This disgusting darkness. God is shining a light. And I don't think it's going to go away, Pat. I think it's going to go. It's going to keep going.

[Tom Ellsworth]

These kind of things. Everything has to be out. Go back and look at history.

[Vinnie]

I think it's going to go three years.

[Tom Ellsworth]

19. Look, 1972, 1973, Watergate, until all of the men had been tried and Liddy was in prison. Colson was in prison. Archibald Cox closed the books. All the tapes were out there. Books were published that transcribed the tapes. And then and only then was Watergate done. We knew about Daniel Ellsberg, psychiatrist. We knew about the break in. We knew about the clumsy Cubans that broke in to the Watergate Hotel. We knew everything. It was all out there. It was over and done. And then Gerald Ford lost the election and Jimmy Carter's chapter began. But it took three years. And that was just Watergate, Pat. But everything had to get out, right?

[Pat]

But Tom Trump knows this. Trump has to know this. Like, you know, you'll test to make a story go away. It hasn't gone away. What are you doing now? What are you doing now?

[Tom Ellsworth]

Because 3 million more. The. The news media, everybody interested is saying the other 3 million docs, right?

[Pat]

And this story here, they announced top Goldman Sachs lawyer Kathy Rumler to resign over Epstein links. What they forget to tell you is this was Obama's main lawyer when Obama was president. She was the main counsel. So the way they wrote the title makes you seem like they're taking a shot at who? At David Solomon and they're taking a shot at Goldman, by the way. Rob, can you copy paste her name and just go ask who is she? Okay. Or go to her profile, LinkedIn, whatever you want to go to. There you go. Go, go. A little bit lower if you could zoom in. Zoom in, Rob.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Whoops.

[Pat]

So there you go. She was White House counsel to President Obama, but no, they put Goldman Sachs. What do you think is bigger? White House. What storyline is a bigger storyline? White House counsel to President Barack Obama fired due to ties to Epstein. And Rob. What. What came out in the Epstein files about her and Epstein? I mean, the way they were speaking was very mushy. Mushy. Like the relationship is a little bit.

[Rob]

She referred to him as Uncle Jeffrey. I have a newscast where they talk about the gifts that she received as well. If you'd like me to.

[Pat]

Go ahead, Rob.

[Vinnie]

We begin here at 11 with breaking news. There is new fallout amid the release of the Epstein files. The top lawyer at Goldman Sachs, Kathy Remler, is stepping down after emails showed that she had a close relationship with Jeff Remmler, was also White House counsel to former President Barack Obama. Newly released documents show that she called Epstein Uncle Jeffrey and accepted luxury gifts from the disgraced financier. Her resignation takes effect June 30. And in a statement, Remler said in part, my responsibility is to put Goldman Sachs interests first. The company's CEO said she will be missed. I accepted her resignation and I respect her decision.

[Tom Ellsworth]

If this had been a conservative, the first two words would have been Trump lawyer quits thousand. Those have been the first two words for sure.

[Adam]

But this is her current role right now. Right? That's why, that's why there.

[Tom Ellsworth]

It doesn't matter, Adam.

[Pat]

She got, she got a high end hermes back for 9350. She got multiple bottles of wine, boots, a watch and other clothing items. In one email, she wrote she was totally tricked out. Jeffrey's boots, handbag and watch, a Hermes Apple watch band. She discussed which style she wanted in a 2018 email. And some reports suggest luxury coats and additional accessories like designer fur trims and other possible other gifts. There you go.

[Tom Ellsworth]

I want to know why. Why was he so close to her that he felt he had to swag her up like that? Why? That's what I want to know. What was she doing for him? What work was she doing? He decided, man, I got to send swag. I gotta, I gotta, I just gotta light up her, her lobby with her assistant.

[Pat]

Dropping all this stuff in your lacking, you know. Are you discounting her ability to be a lawyer and practice law?

[Tom Ellsworth]

No, no, no. I want to know what was she working on? What projects was she working on?

[Vinnie]

Well, she exchanged 11,300 emails from 2014 to 2019 with, with Epstein. With Epstein, 14 to 19.

[Pat]

11,000.

[Vinnie]

11,300.

[Pat]

Was she working with Obama at the time?

[Vinnie]

Kathy?

[Tom Ellsworth]

14.

[Vinnie]

She was from 2014 to 2019. That's one direct message on 70% of the days. And then banking billionaire Ariane de Rothschild sent or received 5,500 emails while former Treasury Secretary, Secretary Larry Summers exchanged 4,300 emails. So this is, I mean, Epstein was.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Into the Obama administration at least, you know, 2013, 14 until he left office in January of 17. At least that there's the overlap. We have the dates. Summers was his treasury guy. Yeah. This is his lawyer.

[Vinnie]

Yep.

[Adam]

So here's what I think is going on because you asked about grading Pam Bondi and whether Trump is going to address this or now or kick the can down the road. Here's my opinion. I think Trump is going to kick the can down the road. By the way, he's not kicking the can down the road on anything else. Tariffs, border, Greenland, Gulf of America. Pick an issue. Trump's addressing it. But why isn't Trump addressing this? And why is this on Pam Bondi? Here's my opinion. It's kind of like the Cleveland Browns, systemically, horribly bad football team. They draft Shador Sanders. He's a average to below average quarterback, and everyone's focusing on him, but nobody's focused on the fact that for 25 years, they've been horrible. They haven't had a good quarterback in decades. They haven't a winning team, basically ever. So Pam Bondi, who's been the Attorney general for a year, it's kind of like, what have you done for me lately? And everyone's like, come on, Pam, let's go. This is on you. It's like, hold on. Merrick Garland was the attorney general for four years. What did he have to do with Epstein under Biden? Before Merrick Garland, there was Bill Barr. Bill Barr. And then you've remembered Jeff Sessions, and I don't recall he had to recuse himself. What were they doing during all this, by the way? Bill Barr has been in. In attorney general, in politics so long, he was under the Trump administration and also under the Bush administration. Attorney General, what does Bill Barr have to say about this? So you have a cast of characters between Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, who was under Obama. You have Alberto Gonzales, Janet Reno under Clinton. This thing has been going on for decades. And they want to put everything on Pam Blondie, who's clearly sort of unequipped to handle all this. But the reality is it's kind of like blaming Shador Sanders for why Cleveland Browns suck your organization.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Wait a minute.

[Adam]

And she's just the latest quarterback in a crappy team. Adam.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Adam. That mental yoga I got to back up on.

[Adam]

You want me to.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Nobody is putting it on. Nobody is putting it on. Pam Bondi. We're looking at how she handled herself putting it on during a hearing. You said it. And you're talking to the whole scandal and the whole thing, and there's some weird, odd football metaphor in there. No one is putting the whole.

[Adam]

You don't understand how football works. There's a quarterback, but they're talking and he's running the team.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Stop. You always interrupt.

[Adam]

Quarterback sucks.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Stop.

[Adam]

You're gonna blame the quarterback.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Stop. Stop.

[Adam]

But the entire team sucks.

[Tom Ellsworth]

This is a tired. So you think these are such a tired technique, Adam? I think people wish you knock it down.

[Adam]

Not sure that's my point.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Unbelievable.

[Adam]

The administrations that have been in there over previously. What did Bill Barr. Did Bill Barr speak On this. Well, did Eric Holder speak on this?

[Pat]

That's a very good point.

[Adam]

Did Merrick Garland speak on this? These are the people who have been with the files for years and for decades. And you want to put it on.

[Pat]

Pam Blond, by the way. So if you want to play this clip, right, because this is a very valid argument to debate. Play this clip.

[Vinnie]

Did you ask Merrick Garland that the.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Last four years, did you talk about Epstein?

[Pat]

I am reclaiming my time. I'm glad you're asking about Merrick Garland. This is bigger than Watergate.

[Tom Ellsworth]

When I don't answer question.

[Pat]

This goes over four administrations. You don't have to go back to Biden, let's go back to Obama, let's go back to George Bush.

[Vinnie]

This cover up spans decades and you are responsible for this portion of it.

[Tom Ellsworth]

And that's where the.

[Pat]

I want to know, at what point, at what point did the FBI and the DOJ decide that Lex Westner was not a co conspirator? Because our Epstein Files Transparency act requires you. Please put it back on the screen, please. To release the internal decision about whether to prosecute him or not. And it's not in the files. And it's not in the files for any of these.

[Adam]

I didn't even see this clip. But this is essentially what I'm saying. Is that why you played this?

[Tom Ellsworth]

Yeah.

[Pat]

No, no, I'm playing it for a different reason.

[Vinnie]

Adam, Adam, you make a fantastic point. Well, no end.

[Adam]

It's a. Tom.

[Vinnie]

No, no, hear me out. You, this is your. I, I understand a thousand percent your point. Nobody talked about it. Nobody cared about it. The only problem about Pam Bondi, besides the connection of her and Florida and coming in after Epstein and being the AG here. Hear me out. Don't make the promises. Don't come in front of the camera and say, we have this, we have 10,000 videos and we're gonna show you. Don't be Cash Patel. Hold on. Don't be Cash Patel. And say this. And I'm gonna do this on day one. This you know about. Those other idiots didn't make the promises because they all kept their mouth shut. When you come out and say, I promise, I'm going to show you. I'm going to promise. And then we ask for it. And you're blocking shit and you're covering up stuff. You're deleting this and you're hiding co conspirators. That's the difference. You're right. None of them talked about it because they're all implicated. All of their Donors, all their friends, all their people, all the judges, all the presidents and everything. Don't make the promise. Keep your mouth shut. That's how you kick it down the. The kick the can down the street. That's the problem. She made the promise.

[Tom Ellsworth]

And don't go to lunch in Washington, D.C. and shoot your mouth off to somebody and get overheard in a public restaurant.

[Pat]

Would you. Would you put Bam Bundy in the top five best performing people that they've appointed or the bottom five?

[Adam]

Bottom five, Closer to the bottom.

[Pat]

Okay, then guess what, guys? Respectfully, okay? There are certain jobs that everybody gets that's way over your head, okay? It's happened to everybody. You have to find a way to do the same thing you did to Waltz. What was Michael Waltz? What was the guy's name? What was the guy that was signaling to Israel, whatever he was doing. And he had a big job. Michael Waltz. Right. We met him.

[Vinnie]

Mike Waltz.

[Pat]

Yeah. Nice guy. But guess what? When that happened, what did they do? Hey, you go do un. Yeah, you go do. What was the job that he got? Yeah, United States Ambassador to uncle. Yep, you go do that. You go over here. We didn't fire you. You save face. Take Bondi, move her off to a different job.

[Tom Ellsworth]

I agree.

[Pat]

I don't think this is Bondi's job. I agree.

[Vinnie]

100.

[Pat]

I think. I think then, then also the market will react in their own way. Or Bondi can simply resign and step down and go and do her own thing. But I think this continuing this way or Trump, you know, we looked at some numbers. You know what Trump's turnover ratio was in its first administration? 43% in the first year. People are getting fired left and right. You know what it is today? 28, 29. Trump's not firing people. He's not firing people. And he's got to. Sometimes I think he's got to fire somebody. And this is. This is not a good look because she made the promises, she said, these are the things we're going to do. And she got caught with James o'. Keefe. And James probably likes Pam and didn't want to drop it, and he send it to them saying, we're about to drop this. Then Pam comes in front of camera and says what they have that, that, you know, this is the point. This is true story. This is not like we're making stuff up. So for me, I think it's time. I think it's time. And I was hoping to see a different kind of a hearing. I don't think she performed well, at all.

[Adam]

I'll just go real quick. I think the reason he's not firing these people who are, quote, unquote, performing badly, Pam Bondi, Kristi Noemi, Cash Patel, is because they're doing what Trump wants them to do. If they were stepping out of lines, my opinion, this is my opinion. They were stepping out of line for what Trump wanted, they'd be gone in an instant. You're fired. You don't. What are the chances that Trump is having closed door meetings with Pam Bondi?

[Tom Ellsworth]

Of course.

[Pat]

Of course he is.

[Adam]

And he's saying, pam, I need you to do this. Step up, Christie, you're doing this. Put a little more makeup on Cash. Let's go. Get out there, buddy. He's a leader and they're going to follow his lead. So if they're stepping out of line, that's when I think they'll get fired. If they're toeing the company line and doing what Trump wants them to be doing, I think that's why they're safe. He keeps saying that Kristi Noem is doing a good job. He keeps saying that Pam Bonney's doing a good job. We see him very close with Lutnick. If they were stepping out of favor, they'd be gone. That's my opinion.

[Tom Ellsworth]

You're guessing it best and I'm not going to name names. Pat knows who I'm talking about.

[Adam]

So what you're about to do is guess it best. But go ahead.

[Tom Ellsworth]

No, no, no, not at all. There are people that are there with.

[Pat]

The administration going to be the last one and we're moving on. Go ahead.

[Tom Ellsworth]

There are people with the administration who are stacking up what they see every day. And not everybody is aligned with Trump. Some people are ahead of Trump, some people are not ahead of Trump and they're on point. And Pat and I heard a list that went top to bottom that we're not going to repeat. That was factual. I'm not guessing. Not all that cabinet is aligned and they're not gathering with a huddle and following the boss the way you just indicated. So let's just leave that there. Not everybody is there.

[Adam]

Then they're not fired.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Actually, he made. If you, okay, we'll get elected president and then you can take care of it.

[Adam]

But that's what makes no sense.

[Pat]

All right, let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story. Next story, next story. This, this is not going to go away, guys. Just so we know, this, this is, this is going to be around for a minute, Rob. Let's go to Holly. Holly is sitting down with Rob. Can you tell the audience who Holly is sitting down within this clip? You know which one I'm talking about? Yes, Minnesota.

[Vinnie]

Keith Ellison, the Attorney General of Minnesota.

[Pat]

Okay. Keith Ellison, the Minnesota Attorney General watched it.

[Vinnie]

Communist.

[Pat]

It is uncomfortable. If you've not seen the whole. Which clip is this, Rob?

[Rob]

This is where they talk about being a pal. And then.

[Pat]

Okay, good. This is good. But then I want to go to the other one. But this is a good start. Go ahead.

[Josh Hawley]

Roblox came to you as early as 2019. Let's look at as early as 2019. Whistleblower. Don't talk over me. As early as 2019. It's my hearing, pal. As early as 2019.

[Vinnie]

Don't call me.

[Josh Hawley]

Whistleblowers came. Well, I should call you prisoner because you ought to be in jail.

[Pat]

Well, we'll see what you can pause it and go back, by the way. Pause it and go back. Look what he says. The amount of audacity to react this way. Press Play. Rob, listen.

[Josh Hawley]

2019. It's my hearing, pal. As early as 2019.

[Pat]

Listen, don't call me.

[Josh Hawley]

Whistleblowers came. Well, I should call you a prisoner because you ought to be in jail.

[Vinnie]

Well, we'll see what you can do.

[Pat]

We'll see what you can do.

[Adam]

The audacity.

[Pat]

We'll see what. By the way, who talks like that?

[Adam]

Somebody knows they're untouchable.

[Pat]

We'll see what you could do about that. Rob, is this the clip about the $10,000?

[Rob]

I believe so. This was in your notes.

[Pat]

Okay, perfect. That's the one. Have you seen this $10,000 clip?

[Tom Ellsworth]

No.

[Adam]

No.

[Pat]

You've not seen this?

[Vinnie]

I haven't. I saw.

[Pat]

Do you know the whole conversation? So the whole conversation he's having with them is he met with these folks for 54 minutes and afterwards, eight days later or so, guy gets $10,000 and Holly's calling him out on it. It's disturbing. Watch this. Go ahead to help him.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Are you gonna let me answer?

[Pat]

Please.

[Josh Hawley]

We're all here.

[Vinnie]

So first of all, you're cherry picking quotes out of there.

[Josh Hawley]

Why did you help?

[Vinnie]

I thought you were gonna let me answer.

[Josh Hawley]

Why did you.

[Vinnie]

Are you gonna let me answer?

[Josh Hawley]

Why did you help?

[Vinnie]

You let me answer and I'll answer.

[Josh Hawley]

You tell the truth and I'll let you answer.

[Vinnie]

I will tell the truth.

[Josh Hawley]

Good. That'd be a nice change.

[Vinnie]

So, no, that. Now, see, Mr. Chairman, I didn't come here to be insulted. I Came here.

[Josh Hawley]

You came here for the truth. Let's have it. Why did you help?

[Pat]

The quotes are here.

[Josh Hawley]

They're in black and white. And every member of this audience listen to the recording. It's 54 minutes long. It's all in public. You can Google it right now and listen to it.

[Vinnie]

And listen to it.

[Josh Hawley]

Why did you help them?

[Vinnie]

First of all, I didn't help them.

[Josh Hawley]

You did.

[Pat]

No, I did not.

[Adam]

I certainly didn't.

[Josh Hawley]

You're saying you didn't do anything for him? You didn't. You didn't.

[Vinnie]

Well, wait a minute.

[Josh Hawley]

I already have my team working on this again. That's not you.

[Vinnie]

I have my team. My team assisted with the information that led to the prosecution and conviction of these people.

[Adam]

You didn't.

[Josh Hawley]

You didn't look at your finger to prosecute them. No, you did not.

[Rob]

Federal.

[Josh Hawley]

You had bs. You had whistleblowers.

[Vinnie]

You're the one talking bs.

[Josh Hawley]

Hey, listen, it's my time.

[Vinnie]

Doesn't know what you're talking about.

[Josh Hawley]

Oh, no, sir. You now have encountered the truth that.

[Pat]

You don't like it.

[Josh Hawley]

Why'd you take your money? Why you take their money?

[Vinnie]

I didn't.

[Josh Hawley]

You took ten. A thousand dollars.

[Vinnie]

That's a false statement.

[Josh Hawley]

$10,000. Nine days after the meeting.

[Vinnie]

False statement.

[Josh Hawley]

You took $10,000. Here's what happened. They went to your office. They solicited money from you. They solicited help from you.

[Tom Ellsworth]

That's also wrong.

[Josh Hawley]

They came to your office. It was your official office. Office. You met with them for 54 minutes.

[Vinnie]

No.

[Josh Hawley]

They asked you for help. You pledged it to them. And they talked repeatedly about money. In fact, it's all they talked about. Money, money, money, money. They said, we will put our dollars in the right place. We will support candidates that will fight to protect our interests. You replied. That's right. They said, you are securing your donor base and securing your power base. You can act the way you want. You replied. Money is freedom. They said, the amount of money circulate. I'm reading the transcript. The amount of money circulating in our community today is powerful and we haven't realized it in a meaningful way. And you said, give me the specifics. And nine days later, you took $10,000.

[Rob]

That's a lot.

[Josh Hawley]

From people who were then indicted. It's in your reports.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Why did you do it, sir? This.

[Josh Hawley]

Was it worth it?

[Vinnie]

You know what, fraudster?

[Josh Hawley]

10,000. This is the truth. This is what accountability looks like, of which you've had none. You helped fraudsters defraud your state and this government of $9 billion and you got a fat campaign contribution out of it. You ought to be indicted.

[Tom Ellsworth]

True.

[Vinnie]

Well, that's the truth.

[Tom Ellsworth]

I think we've made the point. Let's keep the 10.

[Vinnie]

Well, just for the record, I'll ask how I.

[Josh Hawley]

He's lying.

[Vinnie]

And that's. And that's the truth.

[Josh Hawley]

Oh, no. This is all on the record. Did you bother. Did you bother to investigate where the money that you facilitated their fraud for where it went? Why'd you help them?

[Vinnie]

So. So. So for people to understand. He's. This guy is. Works with Tim Walls and Elon Omar. They're all. They're all on that same little crew. And the. With the major. All the. All the fraudsters were going to him saying, hey, hey, listen, we're doing this. And they're.

[Pat]

Now here's what it is. What he's. What he's talking to him about. December 11, 2021. Holly's accusing Ellison of on that they would met with individuals later charged in defeating our future. Fraud.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Pat]

A massive Covid era non profit fraud scandal. Hawley claimed Ellison took campaign contribution totaling $10,000 from those individuals or their associates shortly after the meeting, saying the donations came nine days later. That's the exchange during COVID to basically.

[Vinnie]

To basically help them not get crazy sentences or look out for them.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Vinnie]

The question is, Pat, and he might be right. Is it all theatrics? Because unless he gets legitimately investigated and if that's true and he's taking those donations, he should be arrested, he should be put in jail. But it seems to me like people like Tim Waltz, Ilhan Omar, they do whatever they want. They sit in front of the camera, they spit all this, all these threats and all this, you're Hitler, you're Nazi. And weaponizing people to go in front of ice and nothing happens to them. Nothing happens. There's zero accountability ever, Tom. Ever.

[Tom Ellsworth]

This is what upsets America is they believe that there's two systems of justice. This one and that one. I get a speeding ticket. We all get speeding tickets. That's what they feel. And there's no way out. And then they feel that people that are robbing them blind, committing fraud and crimes of the highest order, high crimes and misdemeanors. They feel that people get off. And this guy is on a congressional hearing. A performance like that at the congressional hearing with all the stuff that Holly was talking about should be referred to the Department of Justice for a formal investigation grand jury behind closed doors and indictments. If this is what's happened. But this is not what happens. Because things are so corrupt, Pat. They can't get the grand jury together, they can't get the indictment brought down. These things should be happening. People should be imprisoned. Vinnie. But he is sitting there and look at the amount of hubris and the cockiness. This guy's sitting there and he is the first Muslim elected to Congress and was the first African American representative. So he is there also protecting a tribe of like minded individuals and they're all protected. Look at the cockiness, even with backing off that Governor Walsh still has. Look at that. That disgusts me, Pat. This should be referred to the Department of Justice and indictments should be brought down, but they don't happen. And this is where American people say nothing's going to happen. And there's two systems of justice and the American people sits at 17% confidence in all of it.

[Pat]

Yeah. By the way, I found the recording. Just so you guys know, the 54 minute and there's a shorter clip. I found a recording, I found a bunch of them, you know, on what he's saying on tapes. Rob, I just send it to you. Do you have it?

[Tom Ellsworth]

Yes.

[Pat]

Play one of them. Let's see what he's saying here.

[Vinnie]

I'm very concerned about it. I don't run the agencies. But let me just finish by saying. But often the agencies call on my lawyers to represent them. And so it's good that we're talking because we've been in a series of conversations with Jody Harpstead as late as a week ago on how you cannot.

[Pat]

Crunch down on these.

[Adam]

Because here's the thing.

[Pat]

As big as you are collectively, most are pretty small.

[Vinnie]

And you're making, you're running small, tiny.

[Pat]

Businesses out of business over nothing. And a lot of times I just send it. You can pause it right here. Can you listen to the four? I send the entire 54 minutes there. But don't listen to the 54 in the four clips. See which one says the $10,000. Adam, your thoughts on this.

[Adam]

So here's my deal. Number one, Josh, Holly, by the way.

[Pat]

Just, just to feed, feed the future. This is the $250 million scandal that they got caught on.

[Vinnie]

Yes.

[Pat]

And then that's a part of the 9 billion. But Holly here specifically is targeting the 250 million and then saying you got $10,000 of contributions.

[Adam]

So here's what I think about this guy, Keith Ellison. Well, first let's address the elephant in the room. Josh Hawley's a rock star. Whatever this guy wants to do Politically, I think he's based in Missouri, I want to say.

[Pat]

Correct.

[Rob]

Wow.

[Pat]

Wow.

[Adam]

We.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Wow.

[Adam]

Wow. This guy just made Born for tv. Good looking, sharp, informed, like, all the good qualities. Let's see where this guy goes in his career. Number two, Keith Ellison. I'm so glad people are starting to learn this guy's name, because people have probably heard it. You don't really know what this guy's about. This guy is where three major things meet. Progressivism and ultra far leftism meets with Islamism, meets with globalism. So if you want to understand why Minnesota is a complete piece of crap burning in the streets, look no further than this guy. Now, we got to give a shout out to Tim Walls. He gets a lot of the reviews. We got to give a shout out to Ilhan Omar and marrying her brother and getting Somalians to continually vote for the Democratic party. And we got to give a shout out to Jacob Frey for continuing to pander the Somalian community. We get it. They're all complicit, in my opinion, in the waste, fraud, and abuse and specifically fraud. But Keith Ellison is the attorney general. Is that his job? So if we're going to, you know, heavy is the head that wears the crown. If we're going to put everything on Pam Bondi, who's been there for one year, how about putting it on Keith Ellison, who's been a congressperson, congressman, and attorney general for decades in Minnesota. So tip of the spear goes no further than Keith Ellison. And you're right, he was the first Muslim, Tom, I believe, that was elected to congress, swore on the Quran. Where do you think Mamdani got it from? And then he was also the person that I want to say was in charge of the Derek Chauvin, George Floyd thing. So if you want to thank anybody for making George Floyd the martyr on the left, look no further than Keith Ellison. This dude seems to me very corrupt, and I'm very glad that Josh Hawley is calling him out.

[Pat]

All right, let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get to is. Let me see, what do we got here? Foreclosures, Bloodbath deepens as banks seized 40,000 homes in just one month. And the pain is only beginning. 40,000 in one month. Let's see what Tom's got to say about this. With the number of Americans losing their homes to banks rising for an 11th straight month, it's clear the housing crisis is getting worse rather than better. US foreclosure activity jumped again in January 2026 with a total of 40,534 properties facing foreclosure filings, a 32% increase from the same time last year. Foreclosure filing cover every stage of the process from the moment a lender issued a legal warning to the point a home is formally seized after missed mortgage payments. While the total was slightly light lower than December, January still marked the 11th straight month a rising year over year foreclosure activity a clear sign the pressure is building, not easing, he said. Foreclosure starts Foreclosure arising across the board, said Rob Barber, CEO of Adam. He said foreclosure starts when lenders formally begin the process of taking back a home. Are up 26% while completed repos have surged nearly 59%.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Tom so I've been talking about this year that this case, this case shaped economy we're in and what's happening with the consumer. When I talk about 1.26, we're almost at 1.3 trillion of credit card debt. That is stress on the consumer. That means he can't pay for other things. And when core things have not come back down, remember, inflation rate is now moderated, it's not rising anymore. But the prices from yesteryear are still very high in baskets of goods for the consumer. And so now the consumer is coming to the point, especially those, remember this is repossessions of homes. This isn't renters, these are homeowners, homeowners that can no longer pay the mortgage. And you look year over year, the foreclosures are up. Foreclosure is, is like the final late notice. Vinnie, you're 30 days late, you're 60 day late, you're 90 days late. Vinnie we're officially in foreclosure. We're foreclosing. In other words, we're going to shut down your mortgage. Then what happens to repossession? The repossession is up almost 60%. This is a sign of deep stress in the lowest, in the lower. And if you dive into these numbers, Pat is actually happening to the lower half of the middle class. And the lower half of the middle class are the wage earners that have less savings and less margin for error, less ability to get through a stress. And that's what's happening right now. You've got the lower half pattern is under deep stress. And remember these are trailing stats. It takes in some states almost six months to complete a repo. So that means, Pat, these consumers have been under the stress for six months from Ms. 1, Ms. 2, Ms. 3, foreclosure and then repo. The stress is building.

[Vinnie]

Fixing it. Tommy, like what, what. What can you.

[Pat]

Patterns I want to see is what areas this is impacting. Is it. Because whenever you get numbers like this, you want to make sure, you know, you see where it is. Okay, so I just looked it up right now. Top 10 areas most affected by foreclosures. Okay. Worst state is Delaware, 1612 units. Second, by the way, who the hell would have thought Delaware. What is Delaware's population? If it's 1612 units and it's Delaware's population is what. Where is Delaware in population period? 1 million.

[Adam]

This is like from.

[Pat]

So what is the. What is the state with the least amount of population? What is the. What is the state with the least.

[Adam]

Amount of people somewhere in the freezing. Can you ask it?

[Pat]

Northern, Midwest, least amount of population.

[Adam]

It's called Montana.

[Pat]

But. But the point is Wyoming.

[Vinnie]

Been there, live there.

[Pat]

Go back. Go back to see who else is after Wyoming. Rob, go. Go a little bit. Lord, show more who's after Wyoming, Vermont and Alaska.

[Vinnie]

Vermont.

[Pat]

Okay, well, Delaware has to be top.

[Adam]

Five, old and north. Nobody wants to be there.

[Pat]

But to be number one. And you're one of the smallest states, that means this is Delaware. Okay, then you got Nevada is. Okay, so Delaware was 1 per 1612 units. Nevada is 1 per 1983 units. Florida's 1 per 2000. Then it goes to South Carolina, then it goes Maryland. And then, you know, these are. These are the ones that are most affected. Metro area. Like if we go specific metro, not state. Trenton, Jersey is number one. Punta Gorda, as Florida. Florida is number two.

[Tom Ellsworth]

That's Jacksonville.

[Pat]

Fayette. Fayette. How do you pronounce Fayetteville? Fayetteville, North Carolina is number three. Then you got Lakeland, Florida, Vallejo, California, areas least affected. Okay, Dakota, Montana, North Dakota, Wisconsin, Kansas. Vermont's all the way at the top. Very low foreclosures. West Virginia, Alaska, Rhode Island, Nebraska. So what this means is places that are being affected are. You know, we're learning some of the states that are being affected by this. When California went through the whole Nagam thing, remember what city and area everybody was talking about in California?

[Tom Ellsworth]

San Bernardino, where they built the excess homes and all the Neenah loans.

[Pat]

Right. Riverside. 64 of homes were in foreclosure. Vinnie, you would drive in Riverside and all you would see is boards and houses. It was insane. What happened. Looked like a desert. But we'll see what happened with this as it gets more focused on certain areas.

[Tom Ellsworth]

The.

[Adam]

Let me go.

[Pat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam]

I mean, look, you know where I stand on owning a home. But if you're gonna do it, be ready to stay in your home. Because 100% of foreclosures happen to people with mortgages. You know, you stop paying your rent, they kick you out, you're out of there. So if you stop paying your mortgage, the bank will basically start the legal process to take their house back, and then they're going to sell it to get money and usually take six to 12 months. So if you're not ready to buy a home, this is what I always say, people think I'm against homeownership because I say to rent, only do it if you're fully ready to commit to this, because the last thing you want to do is get fed a bunch of lies. You got to own a home. You got to own home. If you don't, if you're renting, you're throwing away money. And then you get a home and then you're in it for two years and then the bank gets it back. So this is why. Tell me if you've ever heard this before, you're not really a homeowner, you're a mortgage holder. The, the catch is you can become a homeowner if you position yourself correctly, save that money and invest the money correctly. But a lot of people own a home or buy a home before they're ready. And unfortunately, if you want to follow data, the bank just seized 40, 000 homes this month and the pain is only beginning. So be careful out there if you're a homeowner and make sure to pay your mortgage or it's going to be gone.

[Pat]

Yeah, I would say when you're buying a property. We had this conversation yesterday. One of my guys that wants to buy a house, I said, after you pay the down payment, do you have 12 months of expect expenses saved? No, don't do it. Very simple. If you don't have it. When you buy a property, you think you have nothing else to fix. You don't think about the expenses that you're not thinking about. Buying a house comes with additional expenses as well. You got to be ready for. Let me get to this next part here. Wall street roars higher after blockbuster jobs report. This is two days, three days old, Rob. Two days old. So I'm going to read it and then we can go to. Yesterday, stocks on Wall street surge after new figures showed the economy at 130,000 jobs. Economists had expected Labor Department to report job growth at around 75, 75,000 only a modest improvement of December's weak 50,000. January's unemployment came in at 4.3. They were expecting 4.4, they were at 4.4. They dropped. Tom, when you look at this, Wall street roars. Then yesterday, Rob, if you can go on the market yesterday, how it performed, this was the market yesterday. Yesterday the market lost $700 billion. Okay, you don't see green. Everything was red. Apple down 5%. Amazon down 2. Tesla two and a half. You know, Meadow, 2.3. JP Morgan Chase, 2.6, 2.7. Visa down a point. MasterCard down a point. Everybody was down a point. Cisco was down 11.8. Tom, what happened yesterday and what do you think is going to happen moving forward with the market?

[Tom Ellsworth]

Yeah, hey, Rob, will you pull up VIX one year? VIX one Year. A chart on that. So yesterday there was three things that came together and created a storm in the afternoon. The first was there was a lot of AI spooking on layoffs. Second, there was poor guidance by some of the big techs. And then third, everybody thought the CPI that was coming out today, Pat, was going to be higher, proving that starting last April, all the tariffs by Trump created a problem. Well, guess what? The CPI, CPI, Consumer Price Index came out today 3, 10 lower than people thought it was gonna come, came out at 2.4. People were saying it's gonna be 2.7, gonna be 2.7. Consensus was really about 2.5, but it was actually now down 0.33 from the same time a year ago. So what that means is everyone that said, oh, gloom and doom on the tariffs, you know, this is going to create runaway inflation. The inflation now, Pat, a year later is 3, 10. Consumer Price Index, excuse me, is 3, 10 lower than it was when Trump started the tariffs. So the one year impact on tariffs as a boogeyman of inflation didn't come true. Today the markets are back up a little bit. But let's also look at the vix. So these are daily swings, big daily swings that are happening. Look at the Vix, Pat. One year the Vix is holding around 21, which means that Americans are kind of neutral. The risk is. Look what happened last April. See when the VIX shot up on. What did they call that? Liberation Day, April 1st for tariffs. Look at what the VIX did. It went up over 50. Over 50. Means that the market was incredibly nervous and scared. But see that? See how low the line is? That means even though we've had these market shifts. Up a bit, down a bit, up a bit. Down a bit. Overall, the Vix is been under under 21 except for a couple pops. And so that is what I look at, Pat. The mood of the wider market as measured by a technical like the vix, you know, it's a nervous time. But guess what? If you take a look at the least impacted was the S and P and the S P over long term. What do they say? Always a bad time to sell it. There's never a bad time to buy it over the extent of history. For the s and P500.

[Pat]

I want to play this clip for you. So October 17, 2022, we're doing a podcast.

[Vinnie]

Is this a psychic that you were talking about earlier?

[Pat]

He's a psychic. Joe Biden's the president. Dow Jones on this day was at 30,000. Everyone's worried who's going to be the president next. Doom and gloom. You know, Trump is out. This is when they were hating on Trump. He's the worst. He's this, it's all his fault. And I made this prediction on the podcast. Go ahead, Rob. What happens today after election? Everybody on the market's going to say the single biggest uptick in the history of the stock market a single day is going to be said the day after election in 2024. Mark my words. Wow. And Dow's going to go to 50,000 in 2024. 2025. 2025. That will go to 20 Bold Pre. That will go to 50,000 in 2025. 2026. Remember when I said this to you? I'm okay being wrong and there's a 80, 90% chance I'm going to be wrong. But I'm telling you that in my opinion, I'm not telling you to do this. Talk to your experts, talk to your accountant, talk to your advisors. I'm banking on that is going to be 50 thou in 2025. 2026.

[Adam]

Wow.

[Pat]

But it's going to be a show in 2022. Great.

[Adam]

Great.

[Vinnie]

Well, if anybody wants any predictions, any psychic readings.

[Adam]

Well, by the way, can I give you the reason? I think you know this because you believe in America and you believe in the free markets and you believe in capitalism and you believe that even if a Trump is president or Biden is president or Obama or whoever the next president is, you can still make money. You know, people come to ask me, dude, I don't, I'm in my neck. A lot of. Reach me on my neck if you have questions, man. I don't understand markets. I don't know what to do. I don't do well. If you're a day trader, you're gonna go insane because the markets go up every single day. Red, green, red, green, we don't know. But over a decade you're going to make money. Do you remember when Covet happened, everyone thought the sky was falling. Six months later, all time highs. Yeah, I remember we, when we were in the lovely city of Addison and I was in the room where I used to shoot all the content there. Breaking news, the dow just hit 30,000 after almost tumbling to closer to 15 or 18,000. But it's not timing the market, it's time in the market. So as much as you are a great prognosticator and predictor, the reality is you have data to show you that you should bet on America and you're not going to lose.

[Pat]

Yeah, you know what it is? Equities. If you're in cash, listen, have cash. I always have cash. Because like right now, market dropped. I'm, you know, my guy and I are talking, I'm like, dude, how much more you think it's going to drop?

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Is there going to be more discounted? But regardless, we're all going. Equities, equities, equities, equities, equities. Long term.

[Adam]

Why is your question on that?

[Pat]

Why? Why? Because look, the, the thing about right now, what they're saying, the dollar is going to get weaker. Yeah, that's the, that's the topic. Right? Where the dollar is going to get weaker. The dollar is going to get weaker. Okay, great. So if you, let's just say you know for a fact the dollar is going to get weaker. Where should you put your money?

[Adam]

Gold, silver, where else?

[Pat]

Tom, if we know for a fact, let's just say the next three years dollar is going to get so weak. Where would you put your money?

[Tom Ellsworth]

Equities, equities.

[Pat]

Anywhere. Equities.

[Adam]

And equities are just another word for stock.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Stock market go. Equities bet on the entrepreneurs.

[Pat]

It's if it's going to go, you know, it's going to be equities. If you're sitting on the sidelines, you know, for me, a year ago, a year and a half ago, I called my guy, I said, hey. He says, what's up? I said, I want to find out what are the top five biggest startups or companies that are, you know, valuation. I give him the range of where they're at that they specialize in nuclear energy. Who are they? So I got into the call with a Goldman's nuclear energy department we had a call together and I got you know the names of the companies I like I said we're going to go nuclear. Do you know the last 12 months the best performing stocks I've had. There's no clear.

[Adam]

Really?

[Pat]

What do you think? Again guys, don't take my advice. I'm telling you what I'm doing.

[Vinnie]

You're not psychic.

[Pat]

I, I'm not telling you to go do it. I'm telling you what I'm doing. Don't go say well you told me this but one guy sends me message say I put money in Palantir. You were right. A hundred thousand turned into I don't know what the number said. Million, two million time like congratulations, right?

[Adam]

10%.

[Pat]

But, but what I'm saying is why like go and look at the nuclear side. Why? I don't know if I know for a fact that's going to happen or not. Guess what is a big problem amongst all of these AI companies? What do you think they need energy and power and we can no longer get it the way we're doing it. So now the biggest thing that the government has to do and these companies have to do, they have to get people to get more comfortable with what the word nuclear. The word nuclear and they've not done a good job but they'll figure that out in the next three, five, ten years and then all of a sudden you're going to look at such and such company is officially valued at $1.3 trillion. It was only worth $2.8 billion. Now it's worth $1.3 trillion. Wait, did you just say it? 400x? Yes. At 400x. Damn. So if a person put a million dollars in, it's not 400 million? Yes. Holy. That's how this works out, right? So to me, long term, equities, short term there's going to be some of this bumpy ride that you're going to go through. You know this is not an advice I would give to somebody that's in their 70s. This is not an advice to 70s or even 60s unless if you're 60s and you have the body of a 47 year old and you're a white Canadian guy who lives in Florida, your name is Tom Ellsworth and you're so sexy that you can't live in Miami. God forbid if Tom walks in Miami. Folks, remember the group it is out of. Let me tell you, I don't want to embarrass Tom. Can we do this? Is this OK guys, me, Vinnie and Tom and Adam are walking in Miami. I mean, people think, like, Adam's the girls. You know, there's levels to this game. Adam, girls see him, they like him, they're attracted to him. But God forbid, when women see Tom. When they see Tom, his windshield car is filled with Victoria's secret lingerie thrown at his car.

[Vinnie]

Remember we almost crashed.

[Pat]

And I'm like, listen, you know what? I went and whispered to his wife. I said, listen, you guys can never live in Miami.

[Tom Ellsworth]

That's true.

[Pat]

If there's a city you guys can't live in, you're better moving to Stewart.

[Vinnie]

Yes.

[Pat]

You're better moving to Jacksonville.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Pat]

You're better moving to some of these small cities, you know, north of Jupiter. But God forbid, if Tom moves to Miami. Too much husbands, too much.

[Vinnie]

Their wives go.

[Pat]

Go.

[Vinnie]

Like this guy.

[Adam]

I've seen it with my own eyes, Pat.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Adam]

People think that Tom and I don't hang out because there's an issue. I don't need him stepping on my turf.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Taking all my lady friends.

[Vinnie]

When you pull up, stay away. Tomorrow, throw your keys. No, no.

[Pat]

Too much. Yeah. You know what? There's this guy they call Bad Bunny.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Tom's a crazy bunny. Let me tell you. The ladies call him crazy Bunny. But anyways.

[Adam]

But they don't call him funny. They call him the bunny.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Oh, okay, okay, okay. Adam. And I wouldn't. But I wouldn't mess with any of your lady friends, Adam. At least. At least until the antibiotics kick in. So it's. He. Thank you.

[Adam]

Like I said, not funny. Gentlemen.

[Pat]

That's.

[Adam]

That's the dad jokes are.

[Pat]

You know, we were doing so well to change Tom's algorithm on Manex. He's getting. And then he g. Antibiotic joke. We're back to Boomers Manectum.

[Adam]

All right, let me.

[Pat]

Let me. Let me go back to the next story. All right, so super bowl stories came in. Check this out. Tom, I'm probably going to come to you with this one here for super bowl numbers. Bad bunny. Super bowl halftime show leads to massive decline in viewership. New report comes in. I don't know what this new report is, but, Rob, let's go to it anyways on what the numbers are, because I pulled it up this morning. Do you have it, Rob? Is this where it shows the numbers or. Let me just read down here. You have it. Okay. Boom. So per tracking. Okay, so zooming all. It delivered another massive night television. And the data. Our latest viewership inside reveals 48.6 million US households tune into the Super bowl representing a 13% decrease from last year's game. Is that real, Rob?

[Rob]

This is according to Outkick, which I believe is owned by Fox News.

[Pat]

26 and a half million U.S. households watched. Can you press watch more just to see show more rap on the bottom so I can read the rest of it. No, no, Rob, go up right there. It says show more Rob. On the tweet it says show more Rob.

[Adam]

Yeah, please don't yell at my friend Rob.

[Pat]

I mean, he's not trying the best he can, Rob. 99.9% of the time, he's flawless. So. All right, let me get to this. NFL's decision to book bad money for super halftime show was almost immediately controversial. I just want the numbers. There were several ratings now available at super bowl with one source Samba TV prepared perpetrating to measure the numbers of households. Per their tracking, 48.6 million households, which represents a 13 decline. According to their estimates, 26 and a half million households watched the halftime show. A whopping 39 decline from Kendrick Lamar's halftime show. What are these estimates, Rob? Because when I go and if you ask on ChatGPT. Okay, go to chat gbt, rob, and type in top five most viewed halftime shows of all time. What comes up Top five most viewed halftime shows of all time. What comes up? Number one is. Oh, really? Katie Perry, number one. 121 million, 121 million. Number two. No, no, that's not the right math. Then why would they put Katy Perry up top? I have Kendrick Lamar, number one, 133, and a half million viewers.

[Vinnie]

Sounds right.

[Pat]

Michael Jackson have number two. 133.4.

[Tom Ellsworth]

20 years over 20 years ago with smaller audiences.

[Pat]

Tom, 33 years ago, 1993. Think about the population of 1993, 33 years ago, and he almost beat Lamar by 100,000. Then you have Usher, 129.3. Then you have Rihanna, 121. What was trying to see. Where was Bad Bunnies? Where was Bad Bunny's numbers for halftime? Do you have it, Rob? What? It says Bad Bunny. So I've seen so many different reports with what they're showing. With bad bunny's reports. 128.2 is where I see. And Jake, what does that rank? Fourth or fifth? Okay, so he. So does it surprise you that we dropped from Lamar to Bad Bunny? Are you not surprised? Is Lamar bigger than Bad Bunny? Yeah, I'm actually very surprised that Kendrick Lamar beat Bad Bunny. Well, Kendrick Lamar won. Who played in the super bowl last year? Was it A big Super Bowl.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Who was it?

[Adam]

Well, last year was.

[Pat]

Who the hell Chief Seagulls or big Chiefs.

[Adam]

Exactly.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Beats Philly.

[Adam]

Beat Philly 1 last year.

[Tom Ellsworth]

City bad.

[Pat]

And then. And then have another report. Rob, if you want to pull it. This is a very interesting statistic that Humberto sends us because Humberto likes to track people that go to the bathroom a lot. He does it here all the time, but he tracks it for people for Super Bowl. Rob, if you do see that story or not.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Yep, I got it.

[Pat]

This story here from Newsweek shows. Do you see it? There you go. Water use stats in major US City show impact of super bowl halftime show Go a little bit lower. The nouveau y' all singer boasts a massive following with 53.2 million Instagram followers. I want to know what the numbers are for the bathroom, Rob. There it is. So New York City saw a significant reduction in water usage. Five super bad bad bunnies. Halftime yesterday. And 50 minutes after the show, 761,000 toilets flushing across town. So what they're doing is they're. I just got it. So people who are watching the show in different cities, they track how many people walked away from the TV to go flush the toilet. So they just. He just broke the record right there. Early reports suggest that Bad Bunny broke a record of 135.4 million viewers that stepped away to flush the toilet versus Kendrick Lamar. What a stupid. 33.3. Making it the most. Why is the round of that show of all time? The NFL has yet to confirm. No, no, that's a different number. Anyways, we got. We got to get to the bottom of the story. Because I peed.

[Vinnie]

I mean, I Don't you remember? I left and I came back.

[Pat]

But that doesn't. You always push it.

[Vinnie]

I know.

[Pat]

I feel like it's a big thing here. Anyways. We still don't know what happened there, but it was number four, number five all time Super Bowl. Vinnie, is there anything you want to say about voice?

[Vinnie]

How. I don't know if you guys.

[Pat]

You want to play that voice.

[Vinnie]

If there's any way. Rob has two guys and that's real, right? And it's 100 real. AI just takes away.

[Pat]

Can you do acapell or no?

[Vinnie]

Can we, Rob?

[Pat]

And not one of them is.

[Rob]

I don't think it's a problem because it's just the vocals.

[Vinnie]

It's not the actual music.

[Pat]

Rob, is the left super bowl or.

[Vinnie]

No, I'm pretty sure the left Super Bowl.

[Rob]

I'm not sure where the left.

[Vinnie]

Well, I Know that there's one where he is acapella at the Super Bowl.

[Pat]

I have it. Okay.

[Vinnie]

They take out the beat. But I'll let Rob. Yeah, let's wait for this. But if you guys want to talk and I get it, it's a performance. He's walking around. He has to be mobile. But Michael Jackson on stage was still singing and not lip syncing even back then. And I just want people to know this. His voice singing without the beat is the funniest thing I've heard.

[Pat]

I just want to make sure because it's unfair if you do a a.

[Vinnie]

Well, guess what, Pat? We could just.

[Pat]

I have it. I have it.

[Vinnie]

Okay.

[Pat]

Go ahead, Rob. First show bad bunnies and then we'll do Michael Jackson. Just show bad bunn know.

[Vinnie]

Let me tell you, there's no difference.

[Pat]

He's. He's got a. He's got an amazing. Oh, Michael Jackson. Amazing. One of a kind.

[Vinnie]

That was the king.

[Rob]

Who.

[Pat]

Who's watching this right now? Who's ever been to a Michael Jackson concert? Comment below. Rob, can you run a poll who has been to a Michael Jackson concert? Yes. No, I just want to know how many people we have. I asked people here who's been to Michael Jackson concert. Vinnie said no. Adam said no. Of course. Tom, the rich man in the room says seven times. Tom Ellsworth, I've been with seven times. Seven Michael Jackson, but we were children.

[Adam]

When he was still are performing. So Tom, Tom also. Tom also went to a Beethoven.

[Pat]

That was good. I give that one.

[Adam]

That's good. Tom also went to a Beethoven concert. So it's like of course he's been to. He's had time. But can I listen Pat, you said something last week that I just want to echo. When did we stop being proud of our heritage? Like you defended Bad Bunny almost not so much what he stands for, his ideology, but for his love of where he's from. Like I'm not advocating that you should love Bad Bunny, but you definitely shouldn't hate Bad Bunny because he's Puerto Rican and speaks Spanish, by the way. Fun fact, Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory. It's like getting mad at Andrea Pocelli performing because you. Why is this guy singing in. In Italian? What the hell is this guy talking about? Yeah, because he's Italian. So you know what's very interesting? I was at Mar a Lago the other night and it was. The Hispanic was called the Jewish. No, it was not. It was Latino Wall Street. So it was all these successful. Yeah, there you go. It Was all these successful Latinos. Hispanics, shout out to Tony Delgado. Yeah. If you want to. If you want to punch in on the. The shoes, you can see the future look bright. I don't know why you're so focused on my belt area, Rob, but, you know, that's your pant thing. But it was so interesting to me because you have all these conservative Latinos and the talk of the town was, so what do you think about bad money? What do you think about Bad Bunny? The guy who's hosting it, Tony, is Puerto Rican. So they're so conflicted because they love America, but they also are proud of their heritage. So I think we need to stop crapping on people that are. Everyone had a flag. Everyone had a Colombian flag, a Venezuelan flag, Cuban flag, Brazilian flag. I had a American flag with an l. No, no. There were some of those types, too. I stayed away from them.

[Pat]

You said three of the words.

[Adam]

That's true. Flag, flag, flag, flag. I don't want to get a red flag here. But the point is this. You know that one thing they all had in common that maybe Bad Bunny doesn't?

[Pat]

What's that?

[Adam]

They all love America, right? They all fled these other countries. Socialism, totalitarianism, that's the only thing. That's what it comes down to.

[Pat]

You know what it is, man? You know, if you love America, I love America. You love America. I don't care where you're from. We're on the same page.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Okay. That is the biggest problem. And by the way, again, we watch this stuff because this story of flushing toilets, when Humberto brought it up to me, I've met a lot of people that track different kind of data. You track how many drinks you sell. You track how many cigars you sell. You track how many merch you sell. You track how many client consultants and go with you how many people attending it. I've never met anybody more analytical than Humberto. That tracks how many times you flush the toilet. Okay? Like, end of the day, you'll say, you know, vinny, flush your toilet seven times. Who cares about this kind of stuff? Humberto does, and I respect it. So to me, bad money coming out and doing his thing with his performance. Awesome. Just say you love America. At the end, he showed the ball that America, all this other stuff in the flag. Great. Could have been bigger. Great.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Let's move on.

[Adam]

Bad as people perceived it to be.

[Pat]

That they're not beat up. I thought it was going to be worse. I thought it was going to be worse. And I was straight up saying, hey, he came out and he did his thing.

[Adam]

By the way, shout out to Turning Point USA for turning that event in three months. They put that thing together.

[Pat]

Let's go to somebody else. That some people wonder whether he loves America or not. And that's Mamdani. Mamdani here comes out. He meets with the Minneapolis mayor in New York City to discuss protecting immigrants. Okay. All right. Allegedly. That's the discussion. Rob, do you want to show this clip?

[Adam]

We're. We're looking to determine some of the next steps here. We want to make sure that what happened in Minneapolis does not have happen in other cities and states throughout the country. We want to make sure that our immigrant neighbors are protected. And mayors work together. You know, we're all operating in the reality business. And the reality is what just happened with Operation.

[Pat]

He's well spoken. Say what you want to say is not. Okay, well spoken, anti American.

[Adam]

How do you prevent that? How do you prevent that?

[Tom Ellsworth]

Well, a lot of what it is.

[Adam]

Is local governments working directly with their constituents, constituencies. I mean, what you saw at Minneapolis is tens of thousands of people.

[Pat]

The question is, do they work with the federal government?

[Adam]

Did he say woke governments?

[Pat]

No, no, no, no. Constituency. Local government.

[Adam]

Local governments.

[Pat]

Okay. Adam, thoughts on this? The meeting between Mamdani and them, by the way, while this is going on, Mamdani also came out asking for an additional 2%. Oh, I don't know if you saw that.

[Vinnie]

Are you. Wait, are you saying he's asking for more money?

[Tom Ellsworth]

Additional, additional.

[Pat]

Vinny, what's wrong with that? He needs more money because he just came out. And I know you're probably not happy that he said he wasn't going to, but now he wants to. Rob, is this the clip?

[Rob]

Rob, this is where he's asked about the 2% increase for millionaires in New York City and whether or not they're going to raise property taxes as well.

[Pat]

Go ahead. Why don't you want to play the clip?

[Tom Ellsworth]

Rob, two questions.

[Adam]

I want to talk to you about.

[Tom Ellsworth]

The deaths that happened because of the cold.

[Adam]

And we previously were able to get information from the nypd. Now it's only coming from City Hall. I wonder why the policy changed. My second question has to do with the budget. I know that you want to have Albany pass these tax hikes on corporations and on the wealthy, but if they refuse to do it, given the fact that it's an election year and the governor said she doesn't want to do it, well, you have no other choice but to raise the only tax you can raise, which is the property tax.

[Vinnie]

So I am encouraged by the conversations we've been having not only with the governor, but also with legislative leaders in Albany. And these are conversations about putting the city back on firm financial footing. When I was standing here in this room weeks ago announcing the fact that our conclusions were coming to the same level of assessment at the very least, as the previous city controller, the current city controller and the current state controller, we also said that we would then be updating those assessments as we got more information about Wall street bonuses, as we got more information about the economic forecast, and as we also took savings measures of our own. And so in that time, since, as I shared yesterday In Albany, that $12 billion deficit is now one that we have been able to bring down to $7 billion. And that's in part because of the revenues, the Wall street bonuses, also an aggressive savings plan and a use of in year reserves. I am encouraged by the conversations we're.

[Pat]

Having with Albany about Vinnie. Go ahead. I know you like him a lot.

[Vinnie]

I'm just wondering, all those people that I saw on all these podcasts and all these talking about I'll pay the 1%, okay, so now it's going to be 2%. What percent is it going to have to hit for people and the New Yorkers and the people with the I got the money, I'll pay for it. For them to start talking out and speaking out because the city looks like crap. The garbage is in the streets. He had a winter storm and over 13 to 15 homeless people died because he took out the order to have them shelter. Because he's like, no, leave them outside. They're still. I saw them chopping ice on the street still two days ago, Pat, it looks like, like they're in Antarctica. Ok, he's not running it right. He's still asking for freaking money. He's speaking Arabic as if that's the language of freaking New York. And it's just nothing. Tell me one thing that's positive that's happening. I'll wait. Anybody give me one positive thing coming out of New York, Go ahead.

[Tom Ellsworth]

By the way, when he talks, believe what he's saying. Because he said savings and they've limited. Take a look at what was happening a week ago where there were pictures in multiple boroughs of the trash that was building up and that there were trash shifts that didn't happen because they were going to require overtime shifts. And you can see where they're cutting it and they're cutting it. They're supposed to be Serving the citizens. But they were cutting. Look at that picture.

[Vinnie]

Look at that.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Look at that picture.

[Vinnie]

Saving money.

[Tom Ellsworth]

They wouldn't do the overtime because the trash pickup went slower, Pat. Because of the icy streets. So they wouldn't give the overtime to the trash collection because they needed it. Because they wanted to save money. There's your savings, ladies and gentlemen. There's your savings. The rats are breeding under the warmth of that pile of trash. This is horrible.

[Vinnie]

And Tom, I was just wondering, where are the New Yorkers?

[Tom Ellsworth]

Oh, and some savings. We also got some savings.

[Vinnie]

Yeah, he said it went from 12 billion to 7 billion. Yeah, because that's what the city looks like, you moron. Look at that.

[Tom Ellsworth]

And I'm gonna keep talking about this cuz Eric deserves credit. There was. I researched it. We saw him in Washington D.C. he told us about the surplus. I did research. He did. He left a multi billion dollar surplus. Eric Adams. That Mandami is vaporized. And now he's looking for even more. This is a guy, Mandami. If Mandami ran a funeral home, no one would die. I mean, this is basically what we have. Just incompetence of leadership. And now the solution is. I don't know how to run it, I don't know how to fix it, I don't know how to set the budget. So guess what? Let's just raise the tax. This is what you voted for. Get ready. Buckle up.

[Pat]

Can you say his name one more time?

[Tom Ellsworth]

What?

[Pat]

Say his name one more time.

[Vinnie]

The Mayor.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Mamdani. Mom.

[Vinnie]

Dummy. Like.

[Pat]

Go ahead.

[Adam]

Well, it's kind of like everyone's building out their team. Like if you're drafting a team, you have the Mamdanis and you have the AOCs, and you have the Jacob Freys and you have the Ilhan Omars. That's their squad. Literally, like, that's them. You know, there used to be a time where used to. Are you a communist? Keep it. Keep it on the down low, bro. Don't tell anybody. We are proud democratic socialists. Stand with me and all our socialists unite. They're saying the quiet part out loud. You know, it's. You might disagree with how Trump does things, but at this point it's so clear. The guy loves America. He's America First. And whoever you want to put in the America first camp, whether that's J.D. vance, Marco Rubio, Josh Hawley. Name the names, put them on a. Like, you know, you do a side by side tail of the tape. These guys believe in capitalism, Biblical, Judeo, Christian values, God fearing community, family. These people are all woke leftists that are selling socialism and people are buying it. So, you know, you get what you pay for. And unfortunately, Minnesota bought and paid for this ridiculous mayor and Ilhan Omar and New York just bought and is now paying the price for Zoran Mamdani and they're going to end up losing in the long run.

[Pat]

Results, results, results, results. Kalshee yesterday came out. I don't know if you guys saw this or not. Rob, if you want to go to. She go to my Twitter account on Cal, she tweeted something which I. It's so interesting.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Oh, this is.

[Pat]

Remember when we were talking about. Actually go to the one above it. Rob first. Keep going. One more up, one more up. One more up. There you go, right there. So, Cal, she just tweeted yesterday that California lost a trillion dollars in wealth due to billionaires leaving. This is in the last six weeks.

[Vinnie]

Oh, my God.

[Pat]

Okay. During COVID they lost over a trillion dollars. This is the only state in America that on two separate occasions lost a trillion dollars of wealth leaving its state. Go a little bit lower up on the other cow. She tweet that they had go little. Go back on the tweet and go down. There you go. Watch this. Cal, she just tweeted. Mark Zuckerberg relocates to Florida from California, avoiding the new wealth tax. Newsom is doing a phenomenal job losing his job creators. Can you imagine that? Newsom is doing a great job losing job creators. But there's one person he hasn't lost. His wife. Oh, in this hearing, if in this. What do you call a press conference.

[Vinnie]

Yes.

[Pat]

What was it? $92 million.

[Vinnie]

$90 million.

[Pat]

Planned Parenthood. This is what you call an alpha wife. Very impressive. She stepped up. She crushed it, by the way. She's very well spoken. I'm not even being sarcastic. She's actually well spoken. Watch this year when she steps up at a Planned Parenthood. They're crushing it. So listen, if you're in California, you want to make money, ladies, come up with some pink jackets people will buy. Look at this picture right here. There's massive demand for pink jackets and pink sweaters. Rob, play this clip.

[Vinnie]

He's pink.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Here comes Yoko. We.

[Vinnie]

We just find it incredulous that we have Planned Parenthood here and women are 51% of the population. And the majority of the questions, all of these questions have really been about other issues. So it's just fascinating.

[Adam]

You have this incredible women's caucus and.

[Vinnie]

All these allies, and you're not asking about it. And this happens over and over and over and over again. You wonder why we have such a horrific war on women in this country and that these guys are getting away.

[Adam]

With it because you don't seem to care.

[Vinnie]

So I just offer that with love. Look at his face. Look at his face. Ask about what we're here for today.

[Pat]

You think he's happy or not?

[Tom Ellsworth]

No.

[Vinnie]

No way. He turned the color of everybody's shirt.

[Tom Ellsworth]

You do not have to be an FBI profiler to see that he did not.

[Adam]

You don't think he found that Sexyoko going to the.

[Pat]

You don't. Tom, you cannot tell me he didn't find that sexy. Like, he didn't say, man, I am so happy to be with an Alpha. That you don't think he found.

[Tom Ellsworth]

That's not what he finds sexy. What he finds sexy is his friend's wife drunk on his doorstep and then banger on the couch. He finds that very sexy.

[Adam]

That is. That's Tom Ellsworth, ladies and gentlemen.

[Tom Ellsworth]

No, that's history. I'm quoting from history.

[Adam]

That's true. Why is Gavin Newsom doing this with his wife right here? Because it works and it will continue to work. You know, more women in this country vote than men. And what is the one issue that the Democrats can say we do better than the Republicans? That's abortion.

[Vinnie]

Killing babies.

[Adam]

That's their thing.

[Vinnie]

Killing.

[Adam]

That's their thing.

[Vinnie]

Innocent.

[Adam]

You know, and I'm not saying that women shouldn't vote, but we may want to consider it at some point.

[Vinnie]

Geez.

[Adam]

You know what you're saying, by the way? By the way, this guy's talking about doing things on a couch. I'm just saying. We're joking, guys, but here's the deal. Let me. Let me explain what I had to call him an act because you talked about the wealth thing.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

This is a real life example. People want to talk about, you know, Zuckerberg and Bezos and the Google boys. Yes. They're moving their companies. Hundreds of billions of dollars moving. Here's a real life guy, started a small business. Shout out to you, Ben. I had a call with him on my neck on Wednesday. He said, listen, man, I'm moving to Florida and I wanted to reach out to you because I know that you're born and raised in Miami, South Florida. Tell me what you do. I got disclaimer. I'm not a real.

[Pat]

I asked him to connect you.

[Adam]

Okay, perfect. Thank you.

[Pat]

Last name starts with R. Yes, it is.

[Adam]

Thank you. He told me that. So I had a half hour call with him. I said, explain before I tell you.

[Pat]

About what's going on in Florida.

[Adam]

Yeah, shout out to you, buddy. I said, explain to me why you're not staying in California. He goes, honestly, dude, there's zero incentive for me to stay. You know, you tell the story about when you got recruited by Governor Perry to Texas. Everything's recruitment. Come on down to Florida. This is where woke goes to die. Mayor. Shout out to Mayor Suarez, hey, how can I help? I said, what is Gavin Newsom or Karen Bass or anything? What are they doing to keep you in California? What are they doing to keep you in la? He goes, dude, absolutely nothing. They're actually driving us away. So how many more stories like that exist? We hear the billionaires. This guy has seven to 10 people in his corporate office, 100 employees, and he's moving to Florida. And he's. And he manected me after the call. He goes, thanks so much, man. Super helpful. Who says you need a realtor to relocate? So all good, but how many more types of those situations are going to come up? Guys, I'll say this again. The future is in Florida. Come on down. Come on down to Miami.

[Vinnie]

I do not want to bring all the leftists and all these people with their mentalities. No, no, no, buddy, didn't you come from.

[Adam]

Didn't you come from California?

[Vinnie]

Hold on, Adam. How many years ago? I'm saying right now we're good. Stay there and make your state better.

[Adam]

Sound like James Fishback.

[Vinnie]

Make your. I'm from New York, lived in Connecticut, moved to California. This is here. What I'm saying is right now we're good. Make your state better. It's easy. Hold on. Vote. Vote for the right people.

[Adam]

The guy who moved here three years ago. We're good guys. We're good guys.

[Vinnie]

Four years.

[Adam]

You know what? It's the guy who's been here my whole life.

[Pat]

If you wanted in three months, it'll be four years.

[Vinnie]

Yeah, hold on. I've been. I've been here four years.

[Pat]

In three months or it's already four years.

[Vinnie]

I think may was four years. Okay, so may will be four years. Here's my thing.

[Pat]

By the way, that's what's crazy. Yesterday, I'm sitting there, Connor's telling me he's been here for three years. I said, there's no way you've been. I thought Connor was here like six weeks ago. Connor's been here three years. Go ahead.

[Vinnie]

So here's my thing.

[Adam]

It's Ivan's first month. I want to say shout out To Ivan.

[Vinnie]

First of all, five years later. First of all, I want everybody going, going back to the video that we saw. She right now, her name is Jen Newsome. She's the first partner. That's what they call her when you're the. She's the first partner. Just. No, guys, no, no. She's the first partner. Jennifer Siebel Newsome. I hope you guys understand he's the front runner.

[Adam]

Potential first lady right there.

[Vinnie]

Be the potential first lady moving her husband to the side. And he didn't want it and he just stays there. Well, he wasn't laughing, he wasn't smiling. And she's running the show just like how Jill Biden was kind of running the show when you know, walking zombie.

[Adam]

You have other pictures of her, Rob.

[Vinnie]

But here's my thing. Yeah. By the way, she has a history which she accused Harvey Weinstein of something. Assault in a hotel room. Long story short.

[Adam]

Anyway, let me tell you something but.

[Vinnie]

Put that all the way to the side.

[Adam]

Put that lady on the campaign trail. Oh, an attractive white women. White liberal women are going to eat that up.

[Vinnie]

Well that's, well that's what I'm well on top of. Add to the top of that, I want everybody to know what the context of what she did. By the way, you're in a war room. Meaning there's reporters, there's females. The majority of them were females. Their job is to ask questions on everything. That's what the decorum is about. She didn't like it and she basically comes out and what she was actually saying is hey, shame on all your reporters for talking to my husband about how failed of a state California is, how horrible of a governor. My husband is wasting $24 billion on homelessness and actually Rose. Wasting billions of dollars on the rail system, highest taxes on gas, highest taxes, trillion dollars of people leaving. We want to celebrate murdering innocent babies. Shame on you if you're not talking about killing babies. Shut up. Cuz that's what we're here to do.

[Adam]

That's true.

[Vinnie]

That's what she was saying.

[Tom Ellsworth]

And you know what? We can bring this right abound back allegedly to Puerto Rico in the last 48 hours.

[Pat]

She looks like a first lady though.

[Vinnie]

She looks like, by the way, she.

[Pat]

Looks like a Democratic first lady, guys. You can both criticize policies and still say this is the leading candidate of the first lady on the opposing side. Just so you know. Get used to this folks. Go ahead.

[Tom Ellsworth]

You know what, what's really interesting in this that was at this, you know, this, this rally for, you know, for abortion, which is horrible, horrible black genocide that they keep propagating. Glad to see that Gavin Newsom wants to be the flag carrier for that. I look at Puerto Rico, what happened in the last 48 hours, Pat, there was a legislator in Puerto Rico that pushed to get a motion through to declare that unborn babies are human beings and should be protected. And so we're talking about Puerto Rico today, talking about being a territory of the United States. We're talking about a lot of things. And I was really proud to see this, to see them standing up. And there it is. It says, Puerto Rico Governor signs law recognizing unborn babies as human beings. God bless you, Jennifer Gonzalez.

[Pat]

Are you serious? Watch, everyone's not gonna say bring bad bunny next year.

[Adam]

Exactly. All of a sudden.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Hang on, can I go back to that? Something serious Bad Bunny saying, only, only in Spanish, which is his brand, which he said he was going to do. But I think that was just a bad choice by the NFL to do it that way because you can celebrate the rich Hispanic heritage of so many Americans. We all come from somewhere in America. We all come from somewhere. My heritage on my dad's side is Canadian. And what's interesting about it is you can recognize our diversity and celebrate it. You know what we did? You know what? You know What Pat did? 50% of the agents, a little over 50% of the agents at PHP, the life insurance agents have licenses and thriving says have Hispanic heritage and over 50% of them are women. And to celebrate the diversity and everything we have, you know, Pat used to bring entertainment and acts and do you know what a great reception. Nikki Jam Scott, also from Puerto Rico. It was tremendous. And so you can do this in such a way that you serve the broad audience and you serve everyone. What the NFL did, it just didn't work. But meanwhile in Puerto Rico, you got a brave governor that is standing up and doing this and I applaud her.

[Vinnie]

Tom, catch you a question? Well, yeah. Well, think about the tale of two gens. That's Jennifer here. The other one wants to kill them. Hey, that was a good one. Thank you. But here's my question. So if he's saying the law is unborn babies as human beings, does that mean abortion is murder? What is that saying?

[Tom Ellsworth]

The implications are there, that's clear. And it's also Planned Parenthood has funded historically certain lawsuits where there was a woman in a car accident that lost a six month term baby. Right. And the baby was killed as a result of injuries that suffered in the car. Accident. And Planned Parenthood and their allies ran to the front to prevent the DA from filing manslaughter charges against the drunk driver. Oh, wow. And so, you know, God forbid you declare that that unborn child, that baby, that human, that precious life would not be of any value. And they blocked it. This is the lobby. When it comes down to this. This is the lobby. Good.

[Pat]

By the way, I am so impressed by this. I'm still flabbergasted by the story. Yeah, good. Can we go to her profile? Rob? Can we go to Jenna? Governor Jennifer Gonzalez. Go to her profile. Zoom in. Okay, let's see. Also go to Jay. Go. And Puerto rican Servant Governor 2020 previously started 20th President 2017 new progressive party in the Republican United States. So leadership positions including being chair of Puerto Rico. She is the second elected third serving female governor. Gonzalez was born in San Juan to the late Jorge Gonzalez and Nydia Colon. She graduated from University of Germany. Go a little bit lower. Obtain JD from LLM from International University of Puerto Rico Law. And she has been admitted to the bar Jurisdiction respect.

[Adam]

Good for her.

[Pat]

Good for you, whoever you are. Good for you. I was hoping there was family relation to Juan Gonzalez, but my favorite baseball player of all time. But it's George Gonzalez, which is, it's still plenty. He, he almost beat Hack Wilson's record many many years ago. He had 110 RBIs before all star game I believe if I'm not mistaken, I, I would go watch this guy all the time. Legendary player, favorite baseball player of all time, Wong gown. Anyways, let me get to the next story. Wong gone was the best shout out to. All right, so let's talk about this. Okay. This whole thing with voter id. Have you guys seen what Scott Jennings did with CNN on voter id? How, how, how have you seen that clip?

[Tom Ellsworth]

Okay, perfect. They were so cornered.

[Pat]

Only one House Democrat voted in favor of voter ID proof of citizenship in US elections. So people want real people voting. We want everybody to just be straight up about it. But one House Representative passed a massive election integrity bill on Wednesday despite opposition from the vast majority of Democrats. This is the save act that they're talking about. The Democrats, the House representatives of legislation that's aimed at keeping non citizens from voting in the US federal elections. But all but one House Democrat, Representative Henry Sular, Democrat Texas voted against the bill that passed 218 to 213. It is an updated version of the Safeguarding America Voter Eligibility also led by Roy, Representative Republican Texas, which passed the house April of 2025. But was never taken up to Senate. So I. What is this, Rob? This is the statement.

[Rob]

Yep. From the Democrats.

[Pat]

Can you read that? Rob?

[Rob]

I support the Save America act because I believe in a fundamental principle. American citizens should decide American elections. That principle strengthens our democracy and protects the value of every vote. This is the same secure but practical approach. Texas already uses strong photo ID standards with real fallback options. And it's a big reason Texas has some of the strongest election security laws in the country. I want to explain clearly what this bill does and does not do. If you are already registered to vote, the status of your existing registration remains unchanged for those registering for the first time. The the bill also reflects real life. People get married, people get divorced and people change their names. Those moments should never create uncertainty about whether people someone can vote. That's why this bill requires states to accommodate name changes and accept multiple commonly held forms of identification. And if a citizen does not have those documents readily available, the bill provides a way to affirm citizenship through an affidavit. This approach protects election integrity while treating eligible voters with fairness and respect.

[Pat]

There you go.

[Rob]

At the end of the day, election security and voter access.

[Pat]

Good for him. Who is this guy, Rob? Can we go to him? Let's recognize him. He's Henry.

[Adam]

Color like a light skinned black dude with glasses. Is that him?

[Pat]

Henry? Swell. And he's from where? He's from Texas. San Antonio latino, Rio Grande, Texas 28. OK. Go to CNN's clip. Well, good for you. Go to CNN's clip with Scott Jennings. Guys, you're going to hear one word 20 times in this clip and that one word is how? Go ahead. Rob writes, is he taking away from black voters?

[Vinnie]

Oh, if we look at the Save the Save act, that's exactly what we're talking about. That is actually going to continue to disenfranchise overwhelmingly a lot of people of color. There are so many civil rights organizations that have run the data. If we look at the way that it is going to disenfranchise black voters, it's the same reason why Chuck Schumer called it Jim Crow 2.0. So this is the same president. If we want to continue, I am talking about it. It's the way that you're putting new poll taxes on this when you're making people have. That's what we can call them now. It's kind of an idiom, right. If you want to say that people have to prove that they are citizens that they have to prove with a voter id, the reality is you're layering what is a constitutional right for the American people and making it hard, harder for people to vote in this country. And it's going to disenfranchise black voters. Concern you that you're making all these claims? You've yet to lay out how it's hurting anyone. But 76% of black voters think we should show an ID to vote. 80% of Hispanic voters, 83% of the American people. Are you saying that black voters look what dumb to know what's good for them.

[Pat]

What voting rights. Rob, if you can find that, because it's great that clip. But Tom, I'll come to you first. Your thoughts on this.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Well, first of all, none of those have read the people have read the bill. And I'll summarize what just happened there. We have been working for five years to get illegal voters in here and I'll be damned if you're going to pass legislation that screws me up.

[Vinnie]

Exactly.

[Tom Ellsworth]

That's basically. So let me just translate that. Right. It's like what you have here, the SAVE act. The, the narrative on the Save act was disenfranchises voter. Disenfranchises voter. We even had a local congressman on and we had a good spirited conversation. Pat, did you think. I thought that Jared, a week ago, yeah.

[Pat]

He was great.

[Tom Ellsworth]

But even he stuck to the narrative and we kind of pushed him on.

[Pat]

It a little bit.

[Tom Ellsworth]

We said, hey, you're gonna, you're, you're gonna force these people to get an alternative form of identification. No, it's not. And God bless the congressman from San Antonio for spelling it out. These people, the bill came from the right. And so if it's coming from the right, it must be bad. And they have been, if anything, enfranchising illegal voters. The only. No one's going to be disenfranchised. We want to enfranchise all legal citizens to vote. And both. I'm in favor of it. I won't speak for Pat, but I know he's in favor of it. A national day off to vote. That election day is a like 4th of July where we celebrate the freedom to vote and everybody who is a citizen votes on that day. That's what we want. No one's trying to disenfranchise. This bill is trying to ensure that our elections are only all citizens who should be aggressively enfranchised to vote. Even to the point. I really think that if I was in Washington, I would be pushing for the last line of the bill, Pat, and establish the first Monday in November as a national holiday so that people can vote every. Even.

[Pat]

I am with it. I am with it. I am with it. I am with it. I'd love for that to happen.

[Vinnie]

And just. Tom, I agree with you. And I agree with you 1,000%. Just really quick, one thing that bothers me, we did a. What was the earlier poll on? What? Not poll, but what cnn. They're dropping, they're lowering, they're hemorrhaging numbers. I love Scott Jennings and I love this because he's actually checking them. But I don't even want him to be on cnn. I don't want him there. I want him to leave so that they can, well, hear me out. So that they can disappear once and for all. Scott could be on his own network, go to Fox, go to somewhere. I get the banter and I get what he's doing because he's checking. He loves it and I know he does because he checks them. But this, I think he's helping cnn, which I want them to just go away, number one. Number two, to say that I think it's extremely racist to say minorities. They don't know how to. They don't know how to get IDs. These people don't know how to get IDs. And here's my thing. If you don't know how to go get an identification, I don't even want you to vote. Who are you going to be voting for? You're going to be voting for the people that are telling you, hey, listen.

[Adam]

You know what I mean?

[Vinnie]

Just get in here.

[Adam]

We don't give a damn.

[Vinnie]

Get in here. And I think it's so obvious at this point what the tactic of the left has been. When we were sitting on this podcast, Pat going crazy, going where the. The border's open. What the hell is going on? It's so obvious and this is it. Anybody against the Save America Act? You are a part of the problem.

[Pat]

Is that the rest of it, Rob?

[Rob]

Yes, sir.

[Pat]

Let me see it.

[Tom Ellsworth]

By the way, it's first Tuesday in November. I got excited.

[Vinnie]

There's a black voter that is not.

[Pat]

Who want voter id.

[Vinnie]

The SAFE act is not about ideas. The SAFE act is about.

[Adam]

So what of citizenship?

[Vinnie]

I actually.

[Pat]

But where is it, Rob? You, you did you go too. Too much ahead.

[Rob]

No, it's right here.

[Vinnie]

Dumb to know what's good for them. I mean, it sounds pretty condescending.

[Pat]

Well, let me, let me get to the next story. Adam, I'm going to come to you. CNN has lost nearly half of Its audience and all its relevance in the past eight years, according to the story. Outkick, huh? No network on television benefited from Trump's first presidency. Then cnn, although it remained distant third in cable network behind Fox and msnbc, cnn, openly negative coverage of the President kept the network relevant and viable. Okay, this is the story about what happened with cnn. And then that's the case the second. That's not the case the second time around. A new analysis from Fox Digital shows that CNN has lost more than 40% of its day and primetime audience from 2017 to 2018. Here's what it looks like. Prime day, prime time 2015 was 711,000. Then they went to 1 million after Trump got elected. Damn, they're down to 573. And in total, day went from 489 to 775, down to 432. Adam, why do you think this happened?

[Adam]

Well, because they don't want to face reality. I mean, nobody wants to tune in to watch CNN and watch Scott Jennings just dismantle panels for a living. And if you're living with TDS and you think Trump is the devil and you think he's a Nazi and you think that he's a fascist and you're going to tune in and watch this guy run laps around these woke useful idiots, you're not going to watch it anymore. You're going to go find a outlet or a newspaper or a TV station or a YouTube channel that's just going to basically pander to your belief system. So the next thing is that I wanted to talk about the safe act. So what we've seen constantly, constantly is that Democrats just double down on the 20 on an 8020 issue. People always ask me, dude, are you a Republican now? Are you still a Democrat? I go, I'm a registered independent, but if I belong to a party, I belong to the Common Sense party. And what happened was the Democrats left Common Sense years ago, the day that Trump got elected. And people tell me, dude, thank God you no longer have tds. And I'll say, thank God I don't have it either because I see it every single day how people are living with this crippling debilitating disease called tds. Remember the video where someone was like, Trump goes, listen, guys, want to help you don't take aspirin if you're pregnant. Then you have pregnant women being like, don't tell me what to do. It's so stupid out there. So the ID thing is an issue, guys. 80% of America, blacks, Latinos, whites, even 90% saying, yeah, let's have an ID to vote. These are 80, 20 issues that are layups for the Republican Party. But Democrats want to get on CNN, on national TV, in front of a diminishing audience and argue why IDs are bad or IDs are racist. When you have 80% of black people saying, no, dude, like, we can get an id. If I want to go to the club, if I want to go on an airplane, if I want to travel, I have the ability to get an id.

[Pat]

Vinnie, do you think the ability to get ID is racist? Like, do you think that's too much to ask for?

[Vinnie]

Yeah, Pat, because I just. No, absolutely not. It's actually, you know how disrespectful it is for a black person to say that about other black. Like, what do you think of your people? How.

[Tom Ellsworth]

How.

[Vinnie]

How freaking disrespectful and racist is that? Go get your damn ID. You want to vote? Go get your 26. Dude, I had an ID when I had a fake idea when I was 15. If I could do it, you could do it.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Vinnie. They do it every day in Los Angeles.

[Vinnie]

I was in a nightclub up. People were like, damn, that guy's young.

[Adam]

Thank you for saying a nightclub. It's like debating. It's like debating whether or not you should show your ID when you go into a nightclub. Bro.

[Vinnie]

I was out clubbing. Everybody knows 2001.

[Pat]

What was the name of the club?

[Vinnie]

It was called 2001.

[Pat]

Seriously.

[Vinnie]

And the bouncers were jerks.

[Tom Ellsworth]

They wouldn't.

[Adam]

Every.

[Vinnie]

Anybody from New Britain, Connecticut would know, Pat. We'd have to wear baggy jeans under these tight jeans. The security guys were jerks. And then once we got in, we. Bro, fake ID from a bodega called Sidracas. I got a fake id. The guy was.

[Adam]

You're ratting on your fake id.

[Vinnie]

That place isn't there anymore. But, yeah, well, no, let me guess.

[Adam]

They went out of business.

[Vinnie]

I would just. I take my shirt and I would just sweat. Oh, it was amazing. I would do the worm.

[Pat]

I. I haven't been id'd since I was 12 years old. People never, never believe my age. But we would go to a club called Carnival in downtown la. Yeah, Carnival. It was no longer around. How old?

[Tom Ellsworth]

How old?

[Pat]

15 years old.

[Adam]

I gotta give you a shout out.

[Pat]

Wow.

[Adam]

You remember the name of every club you've ever been to?

[Pat]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam]

Like, literally every club. When I was in Kentucky, we used to go to this one club and then in Ivaca, fifth of.

[Pat]

Yeah, Tom, what clubs did you go to?

[Vinnie]

Come on, Tom.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Believe it or not, they didn't let them in. I spent, you know, high school in Boca Raton, Florida, and we used to go down spring break to the button, Summers on the beach and penrods, they were all right together. And right at Pin Rods, P E N R O D. And then right at the end was called the Candy Store, which was owned by comedian Flip Wilson, who used to have the Flip Wilson Show. And he was on CD and or partially owned by him, but that was, by the way. And that, that group of clubs down there there was his act, Geraldine. He would put on the wig and do this Geraldine act.

[Pat]

But.

[Tom Ellsworth]

And you know what was amazing? Fort Lauderdale wanted to get rid of those four bars specifically because they felt that it was just a problem for spring break. And.

[Pat]

But I. Tom, the comment section is saying you went to Studio 54. You don't want to know. And the comment section is like, they saw you at Studio 54.

[Vinnie]

Tom was out.

[Pat]

They're all over the place.

[Tom Ellsworth]

And in la, not too far from Dodger Stadium, there is a place called the Short Stop where you would have all kinds of.

[Pat]

Oh, wow, now we're really getting into.

[Vinnie]

I'm just doing blow off the toilet bowl.

[Adam]

Did you hear what rfk?

[Vinnie]

RFK was saying?

[Adam]

He was doing okay with ID though.

[Pat]

Yeah. So, but, but what he's trying to say, these clubs he went to, Tom went with a fake id. Now we used to go to Florida. Florida. Rob. There was a club in Panama City, Club La Villa and Spinnakers Club La Villa and Spinnakers.

[Adam]

Club name.

[Pat]

Oh, Spinnakers was right next to La Villa. Lavila had seven clubs within one club. When back in the days MTV used to do its stuff and hard body contests and all this other stuff many, many years ago. Yeah, Top cnn. Let's go back to cnn. Ratings being down.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Yep.

[Pat]

Can they do anything about it?

[Tom Ellsworth]

Well, they can. And I think if you just go take a look at what's happening at cbs. See, the news divisions have been loss. They've been lost leaders for media companies. And the media companies accepted the loss because the people at the top of those media companies were in cahoots with the liberal side of America, the progressive side of America. And they were using that as the megaphone to promote progressive liberalism. That's what they were doing. Now, things like CBS are owned by adults who are looking to make a profitable, you know, make CBS profitable. And they are bracing for another round of cuts is what's happening over at cnn, CNN is trapped in this group of cable nets that David Zaslav Zas is going to spin if Netflix wins. He's spinning that into a. What I believe will be a worthless tracking stock where they will just languish if the Ellisons and Paramount wins. They want to take the cable nets and they want to make them profitable. And people are scared to death of that because that means CNN will go more toward the center the same way as CBS is leaning toward the center, and it's causing this apoplectic seizure that's happening in the progressive movement. So can CNN save itself? Yes, but it's gonna be more layoffs and new leadership, the same as you're seeing at cbs. Cbs, they are looking in the mirror over at cnn and they don't like the reflection they're seeing because if they look instead of let themselves look out the window at what's happening at cbs, they know what's coming, and that's why they're in such a. By the way, if you took Scott Jennings off, what would those ratings be?

[Pat]

It's a good point. And by the way, 25, we send our. We send a couple of our guys shout out to Umberto and Justin to the YouTube event in D.C. and apparently they didn't go to a single meeting. All they did is party and drink and have fun.

[Vinnie]

He's battering toilet.

[Pat]

Minutes that they went to the meeting for, the seven minutes that they went to the meeting. Now, the report we got was phenomenal, but one of the things that a couple of the guys there talked about. He's texting me right now. Is the fact that the, the conversations are that cable has seven years left. Said there's seven more years left for cable. Because right now, Rob, you just ran a poll. You ran a poll. What was a poll you just ran on YouTube. Where do you get your story news from? Right. I don't know if it's still up or not.

[Rob]

It is.

[Pat]

Okay, check this out. Zoom in. 3,000 votes. Where do you get your news from? Look at that. Print media, 1%, Fox, ABC, CNN, all that stuff. 8% podcasts, 91%. Where people are getting. Getting their news from. It's changed. It's a different market today.

[Vinnie]

Vinny, Crazy little Pat. It's crazy, though, that, that like our audience and them. That 8%, that 9% guys, that 9% still can cause an uproar. They could cause riots. They could shut down the frick. It's still working. Don't get me wrong. They. They still get their message out and there's still a bunch of brainwashed zombies that can't step back, get all the information and then make a decision based on that and have an opinion on it. The fact that they're not that 9% isn't giving fact. They're political activists. They want you to, to think a certain way because they're getting money from donors. Thank God for the 90, you know, 92% that we have going on. It's going to stop. But don't sleep on them because that, that little, little percentage still works. Adam, I still run into a lot of times people are just like, I hate Trump and they hate and they don't get it.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Well, there's amazing. You watch Harry Ensign Pat every night he's got a poll that's like saying exactly this, but they still don't move their.

[Adam]

There's also an age gap though. Like people that are watching us are predominantly 50 and under.

[Pat]

This is a good clip to Show, Rob. The TV.

[Adam]

Just people watching TVs are mainstream media.

[Pat]

Watch this clip here. Go ahead.

[Vinnie]

Democratic base, right?

[Pat]

But what about all. What about all Americans, right? How about all voters?

[Vinnie]

Voters who say the Democrats are now too liberal.

[Pat]

Look at this percentage.

[Vinnie]

It's 42% in 90, 48% in 2013 now 58% in 2025 of, of all Democrat.

[Pat]

Of all voters say that the Democratic Party is too liberal.

[Tom Ellsworth]

The Democrats are moving to the left. The far left is gaining power.

[Pat]

And there could be some electoral repercussions because what we see right now is voters, the clear majority. Look at her head. Look at her head.

[Tom Ellsworth]

She's so bummed out.

[Pat]

Really wonder how Harry is treated in the lunchroom at cnn. There's Harry.

[Adam]

Look at him with his facts and dairy.

[Pat]

When you're had to show the report about how the economy is doing with inflation and you see that consumer price. I think you have that clip as well, Rob, if you want to pull it up. That was.

[Vinnie]

I wonder if Harry Antonpad is like that at home when like they want to go out to eat. He's like if this restaurant has A and this one has a B. I wonder if he's that guy in the house. He has one of these.

[Pat]

Imagine two. I want you to go to the bath. We're going to the bedroom right now. Because in about six minutes you and I gonna be.

[Tom Ellsworth]

I'd like to see him order at McDonald's. Stand on the counter. Number eight is number one. And that's what I want.

[Vinnie]

I want a number eight and I.

[Tom Ellsworth]

Want you to supersize.

[Vinnie]

He's hilarious.

[Pat]

Go back to that stat. Watch this.

[Tom Ellsworth]

This poor woman has to sit through this each week.

[Vinnie]

Look, this is some encouraging news on the cost of living. Took a big step in the right to start the year off. So consumer prices up by 2.4% year over year.

[Pat]

That is an improvement from 2.7% in December.

[Vinnie]

That beat expectations. Expectations which were for 2.5%.

[Adam]

In fact, this is a new eight.

[Vinnie]

Month low for annual inflation. Month over month, prices up by 0.2%. Also a step in the right direction, also beating expectation. Now economists look really closely at core inflation which excludes food and energy. Core inflation came in at 2.5%. That's notable because that's the lowest annual.

[Pat]

Inflation rate for core since March of.

[Vinnie]

2021 before the inflation crisis. Now while we can't exclude food and energy from our family budgets, that's important because economists say that's a better indicator for where inflation is going. And when you look at the trend for inflation over the last year.

[Adam]

Been.

[Vinnie]

A little bit bumpy on this chart. It's been bumpy, but it has improved. There was this up uptick in inflation.

[Pat]

Starting last spring after the president slapped.

[Vinnie]

Massive tariffs on imports. Inflation started to go heat back up up to 3%. But thankfully it's trending back down.

[Pat]

Somebody get her a drink.

[Vinnie]

Some of the notable.

[Pat]

Looks like she wants an old fashioned far as what Kate? So funny. Isn't it great when you see this happening?

[Vinnie]

It hurt. It looks like it hurts her. Yeah, like it's hurting the body.

[Tom Ellsworth]

CNN should just cancel the stat show. It's like it's.

[Pat]

Which one?

[Adam]

I mean, can you just show that stout one more time?

[Pat]

The 42. 40 voters? Yeah, 40.

[Adam]

Is that all voters?

[Pat]

Democrats. Democrats are saying the Democrats have become.

[Adam]

The Democratic Party is basically saying Democrats.

[Pat]

Have become more liberal Democrats.

[Adam]

That's about time.

[Pat]

Yeah. So I mean the question becomes what happens next with this? Right? That's the question. Is it going to mean anything? I want to finish on a good story. Rob. On what we got going on is James Vanderbeek.

[Adam]

Oh, man.

[Pat]

Just passed away. Okay. And for some of you guys, if you don't know who he is, for me everybody goes to different movies. Where do you go with him, by the way? Where do you go with him when you think about him? Go to Varsity Blues, dude. Varsity.

[Adam]

I don't want.

[Pat]

Jake your laugh. Where do you go, Rob?

[Adam]

Incredible.

[Pat]

I go to one. Do you ever watch any of this stuff or.

[Vinnie]

No.

[Rob]

Dawson's Creek.

[Pat]

Okay, so listen Let me tell you guys about Dawson's.

[Adam]

Rob, tell me your into men without telling you.

[Pat]

I honestly don't want to wait for our lives to be over.

[Adam]

I don't want to wait.

[Pat]

That was a song, FYI. You know what's crazy? I'm gonna share this with you guys. Please don't share with anybody. And let's just keep it in this community. I don't want anybody to know this. When I was in the army, me and these six, seven guys from our unit, we knew a couple things in our barracks. There's two things we wouldn't miss. When Sosa and McGuire were playing, we'd be in that room watching the games. Or Tuesday nights, they change it to Wednesday, but for many years, it was Tuesday night, Dawson's Creek. And we would sit there and watch this guy. It was the sickest show. But we had one code. We cannot tell anybody we watched Dawson's Creek. Okay? It's one of the things you can brag about watching Melrose plays, maybe even a little bit. Beverly Hills 90210, you can't tell people you watch Dawson's Creek and you're in a military uniform, all this other stuff. But it was an awesome show. The best part about him is this one clip I shared where he experiences God as he's going through his. It's. It's such a beautiful, beautiful message to finish the podcast on. Go ahead, Rob.

[James Van Der Beek]

Today's my birthday, and it has been the hardest year of my life, and I wanted to share something that I learned with y'.

[Adam]

All.

[James Van Der Beek]

When I was younger, I used to define myself as an actor, right? Which was never really all that fulfilling. And then it became a husband, and that was much better. And then I became a father, and that was the ultimate. I could define myself then as a loving, capable, strong, supportive husband, father, provider, steward of the land that we're so lucky to live on. And for a long time, that felt like a really good definition to the question, who am I? What am I? And then this year, I had to look my own mortality in the eye. I had to come nose to nose with death. And all of those definitions that I cared so deeply about were stripped from me. I was away for treatment, so I could no longer be a husband that was helpful to my wife. I could no longer be a father who could pick up his kids and put them to bed and be there for them. I could not be a provider because I wasn't working. I couldn't even be a steward of the land because at times, I was too weak to prune all the trees during the window that you're supposed to prune them. And so I was faced with the question, if I am just a too skinny, weak guy alone in an apartment with cancer, what am I? And I meditated. And the answer came through. I am worthy of God's love simply because I exist. And if I'm worthy of God's love, shouldn't I also be worthy of my own? And the same is true for you. And as I move through this healing portal toward recovery, I wanted to share that with you because I think that revelation that came to me was due in no small part to all the prayers and the love that had been directed toward me. So I offer that to you. However it sits in your consciousness, however it resonates, run with it. And if the word God trips you up, I certainly don't know. I can't claim to know what God is or explain God. My efforts to connect to God are an ongoing process that is a constant unfolding mystery to me. But if it's a trigger, it feels too religious. You can take the word God out and your mantra can simply be, I am worthy of love.

[Pat]

Isn't that amazing? Ain't that amazing? And then, boom, he passed away two days ago. When you see that message, do you.

[Vinnie]

Do you see. Look in his eyes and tell me that faith. He has faith and zero fear. Said death is nose to nose with him. And I didn't see any fear in him because he has God. If that doesn't tell you everything that we're about, I'm sorry.

[Adam]

I love you, Vinnie, and I appreciate that, man. I can, I. So for me, this. All these actors that die, we remember, like for you was Dawson's Creek. For me it was Varsity Blues. And it doesn't come close. You know, we're seeing these actors die and we say, man, I remember Dustin diamond died. That was Screech from Saved by the Bell. I used to wake up in the morning and I feel you remember that song. And then Paul Walker died. He was also in the movie with Varsity Blues. He was the quarterback. That foxy moxie, James Vanderbeek took his place. Man, I used to hang out with that guy in Miami. Wow, good looking guys. Thought of a guy died driving a car fast. And man, I knew him. Chadwick Boseman died, right? Wakanda forever. And you're like, dude, what. What is happening right now? But this is a part of life. But I'll tell you one story. In 1999, when Varsity Blues came out. I was playing football at the time. I was in playing football in North Carolina at the time. Our whole team went to go see that movie. And you talk about the army and the camaraderie. Go take your entire football team to go watch Varsity Blues. Like, remember when we took the entire company to go watch Air? We're like, all right, we're gonna go change the world. Movies, you know, I'm not a big movie guy. Movies, they used to be able to galvanize people and change the world, and they used to be original. Now the movies aren't what they used to be. But here's a guy that has made such a huge impact from one movie, and look at the impact that he's made in this world with his family. Look at this. His family right here. Unbelievable. So here you have, obviously, a grieving mother and beautiful kids, beautiful blonde babies, and salute to James Van Der Beek for everything you've done for America and for our culture and for society.

[Pat]

Four daughters, two sons, husband and wife. Widow Kimberly Brook. He was raised a Christian. Born a Christian. And may you rest in peace. Tom, your thoughts here?

[Tom Ellsworth]

You know, we all owe this world one death. And it's easy when you're young and strong to kind of create your own God and to create your own confidence and to live according to that and to doubt everything else. But it's an amazing thing of the human condition that when we're faced with our mortality, we are all capable of self reflection if we'll let our bold, flawed human self get out of the way. And that's what you saw there. You saw a guy that was reflecting on who he was, reflecting on his value. And we're all worthy of God's love. And it's a God that sent his son that loved us so much that all of our flaws on earth, that all of our flaws as humans, he wants to forgive that and to give you the gateway to eternal life and peace. And I'm really inspired by the reflection that I saw in the words that he gave. And I think you can slow down. You can slow down and meditate and think about who you are in this life and let your human self get out of the way for a minute and just think about what you just saw and say, what are the choices I'm making today? And there's a God that loves me so much in my sin and everything, who I am today. You don't need to wait till you have cancer to kind of reflect on that and to live a life of True value and peace and encouragement to others. And I pray for his family. What a, A beautiful family. What a, what a. Just a gorgeous, you know, reflection there. And you look at the reflection of, of who he was. Look at his family. There's the reflection.

[Pat]

Very interesting how they met.

[Tom Ellsworth]

There's a wonderful, wonderful father. Look at them.

[Pat]

Yeah, I'm going back to see how they met. They met on a trip to Israel in 2009. Neither are Jewish, by the way. They had such a spiritual experience, personal growth experience, that they ended up getting married there in 2010 in Tel Aviv, partly because that's where they met. They got married in Tel Aviv. Neither is Jewish. So I said, maybe. She's probably Jewish now. You can tell. I mean, for somebody who want to get married at a place like that, and you're raised a Christian and very interesting, but all in all super likable man. You just hate to hear stories like this. A young man being where they're at and it makes all of us, you know, you're 47 years old. You get to a certain age in your life where you start realizing how important of a role faith plays. And I always say this to everybody. I told this to Adam for many, many years. I would tell him this. And I would say to anyone around me, whatever you're doing this weekend, my suggestion, go to church. Go to church this Sunday, go to service this Sunday. Especially for some of you guys that haven't been a while and maybe you're battling with your faith and things didn't go right, you lost somebody, your relationship, a bad breakup, finance, career, bad experience, pack. In the days when you were a kid, something happened with a church, with a pastor, with a priest, whatever may be. I was told a long time ago when I would go to Bible study in 2002, Friday nights I would be in. Every other Friday night I would be in Pasadena from 6:00pm to 2:00 clock in the morning. If you judge your relationship with God horizontally, you'll always be disappointed. But if you judge your relationship with God vertically, you'll be fine. So your bad experience spiritually is probably horizontal on somebody else let you down, they did something to that hurt you, you won't be disappointed vertically. It's been my experience. I can't believe the life I live every day. I'm so grateful for it. Anyways, I didn't even know we're going to finish the story on this last minute. I decided to do this because his message he gave was so touching, was so amazing and I hope it touched the right people as well. Gang, have a great weekend. Enjoy. Thanks. Enjoy Valentine's Day with your loved ones tomorrow. And if you don't have a loved one, there's plenty of dating sites out there to find somebody to go on a date with. But whatever, baby.

[Adam]

This weekend.

[Pat]

Enjoy the weekend. If you're married, do go make a baby this weekend. If you're married. God bless.

[Adam]

Even if you're not married.

[Pat]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's his take. Do it the right way. God bless, everybody. Take care. Bye bye. Bye, bye.