“Largest Protest In UK History” - Tommy Robinson: Defending UK Against The Islamic Revolution | PBD Podcast | Ep. 469

Summary

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PBD Podcast Ep. 469: “Largest Protest In UK History” - Tommy Robinson: Defending UK Against The Islamic Revolution

Host: Patrick Bet-David
Guest: Tommy Robinson
Date: September 16, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this high-impact episode, Patrick Bet-David interviews controversial British activist and commentator Tommy Robinson regarding what he calls “the largest protest in UK history,” the rise of a populist British national movement, mass immigration, and the future of free speech and culture in the UK. The conversation covers Robinson's personal experiences with legal and media battles, his relationship with Elon Musk, the government’s response to recent events, the role of Islam and Islamic communities in Britain, and the nature of organized opposition. The tone is direct, confrontational, and deeply critical of British institutions, immigration policy, the media, and mainstream political parties.

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Main Themes & Discussion Points

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1. The “Largest Protest in UK History”

[00:56 | 02:30]

• Robinson describes recent mass demonstrations in London, claiming millions of participants and labeling them as "Britain’s MAGA.”

  “This is Britain's MAGA, and every move they make, it's just backfired.” (Tommy Robinson, 00:56)

• He claims the event was a peaceful, unifying act of protest against "uncontrolled mass immigration" and what he describes as cultural erasure and loss of free speech.
• Robinson criticizes “media downplay” (official numbers quoted as 110,000), contrasting that to alleged millions watching or attending:

  “We had 2 million people watching live on X. Then you had millions that would have attended everyone there... This was the biggest protest in British history ever.”

• Purpose of the movement: unite people opposed to mass immigration, reclaim cultural identity, and resist labels such as “racist” and “Islamophobic.”

  “As soon as we want to celebrate ours... the neglected, forgotten silent majority coming out in their millions... We united this kingdom in ways the government could only dream of.” (03:51)

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2. Personal Persecution, Prison & Government Pressure

[04:50 | 08:07]

• Robinson recounts recent imprisonment and detention on terrorism charges, which he attributes to his activism and documentaries:

  “I walked out of prison. Set the date. I've got an 18-month prison sentence for making a documentary... They arrested me on terrorism charges.”

• Describes intrusive police questioning, denied rights as a journalist, and legal threats over refusal to give up his phone.
• Criticizes the government for leveraging migration crises to push for digital ID and increased control:

  “They create the problem... then come in with a solution, which is their digital ID...” (06:15)

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3. Elon Musk’s Role & the Power of X (Twitter)

[07:52 | 08:07]

• Robinson credits Elon Musk and X for enabling their message to bypass mainstream media censorship:

  “Elon paid my legal bills... He fought for our free speech. If we didn’t have X, no one would have even got [the videos].”

• Emphasizes the impact of being de-platformed elsewhere:

  “I'm still banned on Facebook and I'm still banned on Instagram... But with X, we had debate, we had a platform.”

• Shares how Musk personally intervened during his imprisonment and legal woes.

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4. Violence, Media Bias & Threats to Free Speech

[10:14 | 25:48]

• Patrick and Tommy discuss rising political violence, referencing the assassination of Charlie Kirk and concerns for Tommy’s own safety:

  “If it did, it would be the final nail in their coffin, not mine... It would spark an uprising like the government had never even dreamed of.” (Tommy, 10:58)

• Robinson argues that state apparatus and media target him and those who provide platforms for his views—while ignoring or excusing more radical or violent opposition.
• Discusses hostile media coverage and how companies have been pressured to ban him:

  “You have the state and then you have the weapon of the state, which is the media... The media won't be silenced, so the state don't do it, they get the media to continually attack the companies that ever give us a platform.” (25:48)

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5. UK Politics, Reform Party, and Future Leadership

[14:43 | 20:26]

• Strong criticism of Nigel Farage and the Reform Party for alleged censorship and unwillingness to fully oppose Muslim community influence or defend free speech on controversial topics:

  “He gave his position to Zia Yousef. He sold a position to a Muslim gentleman... They can’t talk about Islam.” (Tommy, 15:26)

• Discussion of new populist formations—Advance UK—and their efforts to provide a political home for those expelled from established parties for their views.
• Examination of Ben Habib (ex-Muslim of Pakistani heritage) as Advance UK’s leader and the mission to unite those voicing criticism of Islam or mass migration.

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6. Islam, Demographics, and Cultural Tensions

[28:48 | 58:14]

• Robinson claims that the dominance of Islamic identity in politics (referencing UK Home Secretary Shabana Mahmoud, for example) is symptomatic of deeper problems:

  “She's an Islamist. Simple as. The most important thing is in Britain, it's not democracy, it's Islam.”

• Claims that Christian culture has been abandoned and eroded by both UK institutions and the Church.
• Provides disturbing statistics about sexual violence, female genital mutilation (FGM), underage marriages, and other issues he blames on immigrant communities—asserting authorities are too “culturally sensitive” to intervene.

  “55,000 girls have had their genitals mutilated... But no one faced prosecution... For years they allow a crime that carries a 14-year prison sentence.” (59:13)

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7. Royal Family, Qatar, and Islamization Allegations

[35:11 | 41:42]

• Strongly critical of Prince Charles (now King Charles) for expressing respect for Islamic culture and for allegations of accepting large sums from Qatar:

  “He comes out and makes comments like ‘their great respect for Sharia’... He’s not my king.”
  “Qatar are behind the Muslim Brotherhood... and whilst they do this, they’re buying their way for our country.” (38:04)

• Discusses how foreign money, particularly from Qatar, is allegedly influencing British institutions, politicians, and even royal figures.

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8. Institutional Double Standards & Free Speech Clampdown

[47:17 | 58:57]

• Critiques two-tiered policing and prosecution:

  “Anyone who says anything or remotely against the government has been thrown in jail on our side... The hate speech laws are brought in to silence the indigenous population.” (50:12)

• Cites examples of Islamist activists (e.g., Mohammed Hijab) engaging in speeches or demonstrations without prosecution, while Robinson and allies are routinely prosecuted or banned.
• Accusations that law enforcement turns a blind eye to hate speech and violence when it comes from certain communities.

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9. American Influence & Hopes for a “Cultural Revolution”

[62:16 | 73:11]

• Robinson expresses gratitude for advocacy from Elon Musk, Donald Trump, J.D. Vance, and Jordan Peterson.
• Credits American conservatives for fighting for free speech in the UK:

  “As Brits, the only people fighting for our free speech right now are in the United States of America. It's Donald Trump, it's J.D. Vance, it’s Elon Musk...” (08:07)

• Calls for a “political revolution” and pan-European (or even transatlantic) unity against “Islamization” and globalist policies.
• Announces plans for larger future events and international solidarity, envisioning a Live Aid-style gathering in Hyde Park.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Tommy Robinson:

  “We united this kingdom in ways the government could only dream of.” (03:51)
  "Their power… to instill fear in a nation… that's gone." (03:44)
  “If I was targeted in such a way it will… spark an uprising like the government had never even dreamed of.” (10:58)
  “Advance UK is the fastest growing political party in British history.” (18:38)
  “How are the Muslim Brotherhood not banned? ... The danger of it.” (45:21)
  “Britain’s awake. We need to make our plans, but we’re grateful for every bit of support and everyone who’s helped… We are the media now.” (71:42, 73:11)

• Patrick Bet-David:

  “From the outside looking in... you're weeks, if not months away from chaos in the streets.” (53:00)
  “In every generation, there comes somebody that's got courage to be able to go lead a movement like this.” (70:52)

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Key Segments & Timestamps

• Opening and event scale, protest details: [00:56 – 04:42]
• Prison, policing, and state power: [04:50 – 08:07]
• Elon Musk support and X platform: [07:52 – 10:14]
• Political violence and media double standards: [10:14 – 14:43]
• Reform party, Farage criticism, opposition groups: [14:43 – 20:26]
• Shabana Mahmoud, UK politics, and rising Islam: [28:48 – 34:54]
• Royal Family, Qatar relationship, Islamization: [35:11 – 45:21]
• Two-tier policing, institutional bias: [47:17 – 58:57]
• FGM, forced marriage, societal crisis: [58:57 – 62:16]
• American intervention, future vision: [62:16 – 73:11]
• Closing remarks and rallying call: [71:42 – 73:11]

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Tone & Final Reflections

• The conversation is fiery, urgent, and unapologetic—from both host and guest—reflecting deep distrust of the establishment and traditional media.
• Patrick is sympathetic to Robinson’s cause, offering support and expressing concern for Robinson’s wellbeing and personal safety.
• Robinson's concluding thought: “Britain’s awake. I hope the world sees that now.”

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Note: The episode is unfiltered and bracingly polemical. This summary preserves the central arguments and energy, but listeners are advised that controversial assertions on sensitive issues are made throughout, reflecting the viewpoint of the guest.

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Transcript

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[Tommy Robinson]

This was the biggest protest in British history ever. This is Britain's maga and every move they make, it's just backfired.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

How did the support from Elon to you happen? The left is the party of murder. What do you know about Prince Charles and his relationship with Muslims?

[Tommy Robinson]

Qatar are in bed with Allah. They own more in our capital city than Prince Charles.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

How concerned are you for an event that happened to Charlie Crook to happen to you in the UK were to.

[Tommy Robinson]

Spark an uprising like the government had in every country.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright.

[Tommy Robinson]

My handshake is better than anything I ever saw. It's right here. My son's right. About. I don't think I've ever said this before.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Tommy Robinson, how you doing?

[Tommy Robinson]

I'm good, man. I'm good. Thank you.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

So unite the kingdom. The protest you had in London, I saw videos of it, Rob. I don't know if you want to pull it up. The videos look like how many? I hear numbers. I know the people who don't like you. They said it's 100,000. The videos look like millions are out there. What? Give me the premise behind the event and how many people was out there. The energy looked amazing with Elon Musk going out there speaking. Maybe tell us a little about the event.

[Tommy Robinson]

So this is our fourth event, fifth event. So we started with 30,000. We then went to 100,000, we went to 200,000 and this Saturday, we had millions of bricks. Millions. Okay? Now what's. What's funny is watching them say 110,000 without just realizing that we had. We had 2 million people watching live on X. So. And then you had millions that would have attended everyone there and anyone watching the videos which are now reaching tens and tens, and if not hundreds of millions of people can see it was 110,000. So they just exposed themselves time and time again. This was the biggest protest in British history ever. Probably doubled the size of any process. For years we've heard about the Iraq war protest. It was the biggest thing that this country's ever seen. No, this Saturday, you, United Kingdom, the British public, standing up and saying, we're not being replaced and staying silent anymore. You're not having uncontrolled mass immigration, endangering our daughters, endangering our wives, whilst then beating us down with your racist labels, your fascist labels, or your Islamophobic labels. It doesn't wash anymore. It's broken. That has gone. That power that they had to install fear in a nation, because they did successfully for 20 years, have everyone whispering. They had everyone whispering, that's gone. And every move they make, it's just backfired. It's literally like a fire. A fire is burning and they just keep pouring gasoline on it. Even their response to Saturday, they're just blowing the fire up even more. They're giving us more supporters. Every move they make, I just sit there and think, there's nothing you can actually do here. Yeah, there's nothing you can do to stop what has started now. Our purpose of uniting the Kingdom was to bring people together to this. This is the. This is Britain's maga. That's what it is. And it's not going anywhere. It's a. It's a movement of identity, of culture. We've lost our culture, and we've lost it intentionally because they have attacked it. They've attacked it, they've demonized it, and they've celebrated every other culture in this country. And as soon as we want to celebrate our. What you saw was the neglected, forgotten silent majority coming out in their millions. And it was a wonderful day. The atmosphere was great. We had singers, we had entertainment. We united this kingdom in ways the government could only dream of.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Now, let me ask you, so while you're doing. How long ago did you set up this date? How long ago did your supporters know this was coming?

[Tommy Robinson]

So I gave this date when I walked out of prison. So I just spent. As you know, I spent. I've got an 18 month prison sentence for making a documentary. Remember the public watch all of this. 167 million people watch that film. They know I went to jail and I took the prison sentence for reporting the truth. They know that when the minute I got into jail, my first phone call, my first, first meeting with my team, as soon as I come in, I just said, set the date because we need to start off where we left off. Now they put me in prison. They arrested me on terrorism charges. After our 100,000 event. There's never been 100,000 patriots gathering our Cap City in a total, peaceful, unified celebration. So they were worried by that. And next day I was detained under terrorism legislation at the border. And, and I've actually faced prison for that in four weeks time because I refuse to give them access to my phone. I'm a journalist. They detain me. Even when they detain me, they said, we know you're not involved in terrorism, Tommy, Steven, but this legislation allows us to do this. I said so. And then you have no right to remain silent. In which for six hours I was grilled by counterterrorism police about my legal, lawful activism as a journalist and also with the United Kingdom. They won't know who's behind it. How did you fund it? What's your plans next? I just told them straight, we're not going anywhere. I'll tell you. You'll see my plans next as we continue to grow this movement against you guys. And the reason I'm doing it is exactly what you've just sat down and said to me. Their first words were, the first question was, what do you think of Britain at the minute? I said, it's a totalitarian shithole. Because look what you've done. Exactly what you're doing now. This is a total abuse of power. When the British public, when you pass your laws, which is what they continually do, create the problem that they're doing now with mass migration, high levels of crime, high levels of violence, and then they'll come in with a solution, which is their digital id, which Keir Starmer's government's already talking about doing, because we'll be so desperate because the level of crime and violence, sexual assault, rapes, has gone through the roof. 2003, we had 8,000 rapes. 20, 23, we had 88,000.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Holy moly. Did you say 8 to 88,000? 11 x 8 to 88,000. Wow. So while I'm watching this, Elon Musk is a big supporter of yours. Big. He shared your Documentary which got a couple hundred million views, and the one that he did a year and a half ago, whatever the timer was, two years ago, you get out of jail, we meet in Bahamas, we do that interview together. And then now, Elon Musk was one of the ones that came out in your United Kingdom, and he had a few words to say. And if you don't mind playing this clip here and if you can react to it afterwards, go ahead, Rob.

[Tommy Robinson]

And then you see how much violence.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

There'S on the left with our friend Charlie Cook getting murdered in cold blood this week and people on the left celebrating it openly. The left is the party of murder and celebrating murder. I mean, let that sink in for a minute.

[Tommy Robinson]

It.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

That's who we're dealing with here. How long. How did the support from Elon to you happen that he DM you? Did you DM him? How did that relationship start with the two of you?

[Tommy Robinson]

Well, for this event, see, obviously, when I was in jail, Elon had spoke up on my behalf, which was. I was very grateful for. And he made. He made our mission complete. Because. Because I went to jail knowing that maybe no one watched this film. But I took that risk as soon as he shared that film. And he didn't just share that film, Patrick. The most important thing that he did was he shone a torch on the rape of our doors, something we've been trying to do for 15 years. He. He literally bought it to the world's attention. So I was very grateful. But when I got out recently with regards to this, I just. I contacted him, and I don't know if you're aware, but because Elon paid my legal bills on this next terrorism case, Elon's picked up the bills for it. He spent hundreds of thousands of pounds in my imprisonment trying to change how I was being held because I was being held in solitary confinement. So he fought for me and he fought for our free speech. In fact, Patrick, as Brits, the only people fighting for our free speech right now are in the United States of America. It's Donald Trump, it's J.D. vance, it's Elon Musk. What you witnessed this Saturday, it just couldn't have happened without X, without us having a platform for debate, without us being able to share the truth. Because, you see, the media are saying 110,000 people, if we didn't have X, if I was still banned, because I'm still banned on Facebook and I'm still banned on Instagram, so which I think Dana White's in charge there, I still Don't. Now he is. I don't understand it. I've never been convicted for anything. Why am I banned? Why. Why is mentioning my name? Band? They have me as a dangerous individual. So none of the videos of the scenes and the size of the crowds that you can see, no one would have even got them if they didn't have X, because they would control all of them like they do. So the public would have been told. 110,000 people turned up and they've done this to us for years. We'd have a demonstration, there'd be 15,000 people there. They'd say 2,000. This is even going by years or hundreds. So, yeah, you know, we're absolutely grateful. He. It was a great moment for me as well, my kids and my mum and that day. And I've been in a battle here for 15 years and they got to see the beautiful size of the crowd. I obviously got to interview Elon Musk. Many people get that chance. So he gave us a lot of his time for such a busy man. And I think for our supporters, it would have been a great moment and it was a surprise as well. We didn't let anyone know. So. Yeah.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

So here's a question for you. You're there. There is tens of thousands of people behind you. News breaks. Charlie Kirk is shot, then assassinated at an event, public event, at a university in Utah. And I see reports here that shows 26 officers hurt. I don't know what the report is, but this is from Birmingham Live. There's another report saying 25 arrested. So you have a government that doesn't want to see you do what you're doing. They don't want your message to spread. And the more they push back, the bigger it gets. How concerned are you for an event that happened to Charlie Crook to happen to you in the uk?

[Tommy Robinson]

Yeah, I'm concerned. But I also believe that if it did, it would be the final now in their coffin, not mine. Well, it would be mine as well. It'd be the final now in their coffin. No one knows what moment's going to spark the revolution or. Look, I've always known, looking at Europe, something's going to hit and when it does, none of us are in control of it. But something's going to change the direction of Europe now. We are heading in the wrong direction. We're being replaced. We're under attack. We're mass immigration now. Northern Ireland. Don't know if you know about the history of Northern Ireland. Bloody Sunday changed the direction of Northern Ireland as A historic day. I believe if they, if I was targeted in such a way it will be. It would spark an uprising like the government had never even dreamed of. I could never even dream of. So I believe that would happen. I had a lot of people telling me we should be careful or you need to be extra careful. I probably do need to be extra careful. I walk everywhere without security. I had the incident recently at a train station in London. I don't have the funds to pay for 24 hours security. Yeah. And I am living in amongst it within the UK as a target. But I just think, I think that we got in this mess. We're in this mess through being careful. Every. All of us as a country are in this mess through being careful. Now is not the time to be careful and now's not the time to show any fear. I listened to what Charlie Kirk said. Charlie Kirk actually spoke up massively for me, but not just for me when I was imprisoned for Brits free speech. He got it. Go back to his comments from 2018. He fully understood what was happening. Free speech. And then he traveled here recently. He helped shine a torch on it. And if you listen to what he says and I think that that's what people should try to do and he will inspire still now, even though he's dead, the next generation. His videos will continue to inspire them. But they took him out because he was so influential in getting the, whether it be the forgotten or the young men to understand their identity, to understand their purpose, to give them faith. And that's what we said we want to do. We. Keir Starmore has voted in off 9 million votes. 20 million people just didn't vote, Patrick, in that election. That 20 million are us. The people who have been told their voices don't matter. Their voices don't count. So we're there to tell them no, your voices do count and you do matter. And if we can captivate them and we can electrify the working class. See, a lot of this comes down to class in the uk. They don't like us. That's the reality of it. The establishment do not like us. Now we've got 650 politicians in Westminster. How many of them were there to speak to the neglected, forgotten people? How many of them? Not one. We had politicians flying from Poland, France, Germany, Belgium, all over Europe, lead politicians come to speak to the British population. Not one. Because the whole building is still the establishment. It doesn't matter if they say they're against the establishment on X, if they say they're against the establishment. They'd have been there with the people. No. So we want to be the cultural revolution, but this country needs a political revolution. But it needs a political revolution that doesn't censor the people getting involved in it. For example, the Reform Party, which is Nigel Farage, which I believe will win the next election and will be a hell of a lot better than where we're at. But they still censor and ban. You can't talk about transgenderism. You can't talk about Islam. It's like we don't need a government that tells the public that they can't raise their concerns and people are kicked out of their party for doing so because that's an attack on free speech. Still, that's not believing in free speech. I saw Nigel Fraud sat in America talking about free speech. They don't believe in free speech themselves. I just don't believe it. Everyone has to sign an NDA. Everyone has assigned NDA. Who's at the hierarchy of reform.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

What do you mean by that? Signing an NDA for what?

[Tommy Robinson]

Not to talk about me.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

I don't know. You said Nigel Farage, everyone has to sign an NDA. What do you mean by that?

[Tommy Robinson]

I mean that as a political party, anyone who becomes a council or a member of parliament has to sign an agreement that they won't. Won't speak about. Up for Tommy Robinson.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

So what's your. What's your relationship with Nigel Farage?

[Tommy Robinson]

See, I. Our event with 100,000 people. I stood there, this is in July 27, and I said, how many of you voted for reform? And literally every single person put their hand up because reform, reform become the party for the Fed Up People. Yeah. So everyone put their hand up. So then I asked Nigel Farage, nigel, stop lying about us. Because Nigel continued. Nigel basically parrots because remember, Nigel isn't working class. He's probably never been to a working class estate in his life. And he was an elitist banker. That's Nigel. Yeah. So he comes in, he speaks about these issues, but then condemns us. That's what he did and carried on condemning us. And when I was in prison, Nigel come out and said that I had. He justified my imprisonment, which is what I believe caused the fallout with Elon Musk. He justified while I was in prison. Now, again, everyone's seen the documentary, Nigel, right? People know what I've done. So he come out and justified it. Then he come out and said that I have convictions on mainstream tv. He said, I have a conviction for violence against women. Just made up. Just made up. Now this is my next leader and my ex wife and my kids had to see this mess. He comes out on TV saying, I've got conviction for violence against women. It's just a lie. But all of these things, you may have to remember that when I went to prison, there was a mass movement again to free Tommy Robinson. Nigel come out and tried to put out the fire. Yeah. And he done it last time in 2018 as well. So Nigel comes out on behalf of the establishment. That's what I see and that's what many people now see. Since Nigel Farage gave his position to Zia Yousef. He gave his position to Zia Yousef. He sold it, sold a position to a Muslim gentleman to become chairman of Reform. From the time that happened, they can't talk about Islam. They asked Nigel in an interview. Nigel's interview, sat down and said, by 2050. I've watched all these interviews whilst I was in prison. By 2050, the Islamic demographic is going to be so powerful in the uk, we cannot alienate them. Now, for me, that is someone pulling up the white flag and we don't want to pull up the white flag. In fact, we have to stop the Islamic demographic getting to that point by 2050, whereas Nigel's doing everything he can to not stop it. The previous government held a no benefits for more than two children. Now, that was to stop. My local Imam's got three wives and 14 kids and we just pay for it. So put certain policies have been brought in which could help deter the demographical explosion that we see. Nigel's reversed that. Nigel said he's not bothered about. It's impossible to do mass deportations. He's been forced now with the over window shifting so fast over the last 12 months, he's been forced to say he will do some deportations. He said when we talk about demography, when we talk about the demographical change, he's not bothered about demographic change. He's not bothered if whites become a minority in Britain. He said he doesn't care about it. We do. We do. Just as black Nigerians would care if they become a minority in Nigeria, just as Japanese would care if they become a minority in Japan. It cannot be allowed to happen. But it's accelerating so far, so quick. And it's not racist to say that the country can't lose its culture.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

So then tell me that's a great point. We're going to get to the culture part. But if you have. You're trying to unite the kingdom Great. Nigel Farage. You guys don't seem to have a relationship together. Division is not the same. Then who is the candidate you're going to get behind to be able to do something? Is it going to be you? Is it going to be somebody? I mean, there's got to be someone that they're going to be voting to have that change happen. Who is that person?

[Tommy Robinson]

There's a new party now that's come out called ADVANCE uk. It's led by a gentleman called Ben Habib. He's a brilliant. He's a brilliant writer but he also spoke up for me when I was in prison and many of the people who were kicked out of advance for mentioning my name or removed from the party for refusing to back down on rape, gangs and Islam, they're now joining advance uk. So Advanced UK is the fastest growing political party in British history. It's up to over 30,000 followers now.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

So I'm looking at this guy here, Benhabib, and he is from Pakistan. His father is Pakistani Punjabi, from a Muslim family and his mother is English and was born in Ioward. So doesn't this contradict what you're trying to push for uniting the kingdom?

[Tommy Robinson]

No, it doesn't matter because we're happy to. He's an ex Muslim, Benabeed, so we're. He understands what we talk about.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

He's a Christian and also.

[Tommy Robinson]

Yeah. So what we wanted. What we wanted. Well, what he wanted when he set that up. I don't know if you know Rupert Lowe. So Rupert Lowe was a Reform mp. Still is an mp. Member of Parliament. Been the strongest outspoken parliamentary candidate there is. Yeah. And he was kicked out. He was kicked out of Reform for refusing to back down on the Pakistani beggings. And Nigel Farage actually censored his speeches, said, stop mentioning that. Stop mentioning that. Now mass deportations now become mainstream. But Nigel told him he can't say it. This was just 12 months ago or 18 months ago. So he. He was then removed from reform. So the original discussions with Ben Habib, when Ben Habib set this party up and then it was to be launched, was that Rupert Low would be the leader. So currently Ben Habib is a reluctant leader because he didn't want to lead it. The plan was for Rupert Low to lead it, but then Rupert pulled out. So that's where the party was at. They've launched anyway and our movement needs a political home. It needs a home that's not going to. It needs a home and a party that's not going to kick them out. For, say, telling the truth. Because that's why we're in this mess. So I see advanced UK growing massively by the next election.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Okay. So I'm really trying to find out why Ben Habib would be the candidate. But. Okay, let's stay with that. Let's stay with that. Because you need somebody to get behind Charlie Kirk. When the events happened with Charlie Kirk, what was your reaction when you saw Charlie Kirk getting assassinated, what was the first thing you thought about?

[Tommy Robinson]

And I was sat with Tyler Olivier. You know Tyler olivier, the American YouTuber. I was sat with him and I was at my mum's house and I looked down on my phone and saw, Charlie, Coke's been shot. If I'm honest, my own selfishness was selfish. I worried about myself and I'm worried about my children because, I mean, my children are about to see this. And when my children see this, I know they're gonna get scared. Because when I was in jail, there's a gentleman called Sawam Amica was a friend of mine. He was in Sweden. And when I was in prison this time, I set up a website called Save Sour. And I traveled to meet him in Sweden just 18 months ago, two years ago, to tell his story, because I could see him getting assassinated. And when I was in prison, he was assassinated on a live stream for his criticism of Islam. So when that happened in prison, although my children, because I spoke to my ex wife, she said that my son hadn't stopped crying and he just hasn't stopped crying because he was so scared because he sees me as that same target. So when, when this happened with Charlie, I was sat there because I was doing a podcast and I saw it pop up on my phone. And then I saw, boom, my daughter, my son, I have a daughter. So I saw the messages coming in and then I was obviously, I know how it's going to affect me, but it affects them. And I know Charlie Kirk had children and they were watching and his wife was there, but that a target, a target was put on Charlie Kirk just as the target's been put on me. Now the problem is it's put on. Let's not say it's by the left, it is the left in America. My targets on me are also put in by any establishment figures. For example, there's a woman called Camilla Tominle. And when I was in prison this time, she's a right wing commentator, works for right wing media. She said I was a white supremacist on national tv. Now if you take what she said, and if you take what she said, she said I was a white supremacist. Yeah. Which I'm not. There's no evidence that. There's no truth in that. When she got interviewed recently and asked about that, she said, well, he believes that Christian culture should be dominant. Dominant and more superior than Islamic. So that makes me a white supremacist. Does it, love? It makes me. It makes me a sensible Brit. But that's what she said. So she said I was a white supremacist. Then there was another one called Judy Hartley Brewer who said I'm an extreme racist. There's no evidence, none of these things, and they never back them up. But if, for example, I was at St. Pancras train station where a gentleman come up and tried to attack me just a month ago, and it was massive news because there was a little video of him asleep on the floor, and then there was all the media painting a picture that I'd gone on the run or violently attacked someone. Obviously I had to do a police interview when I got back, but I was the victim. I defended myself. But people like that who attack me, they actually think they're making the world a better place. The man who's just executed Charlie Kirk probably believes he is like the next hit. But they believe these things because they've been indoctrinated and the media have weaponized words against them and put a tongue on them, same as with me. So that. So I have people who come up to me, Patrick, who hate me. And I've had so many videos like this over the years, when I actually question them and stand there and talk to them, they don't even know why they hate me. They think I'm this racist and I'm this Nazi. But that's because the media has done a real good job to make me toxic, to attempt to have me toxic, so that no one actually listens to what I'm saying. Now, Jordan Peterson, I have to thank him. Jordan Peterson really bought me, and his wife brought me in from the dark. I was censored, I was deep platformed, I was. I was invisible. And until I got my ex count back. And then when I got my ex count back, Jordan Peterson sat me down, done a podcast, which was a risk for him because at the time, anyone who talks to me come under attack, comes under attack. And they have done for years. And. And, well, we know this. You just had it from the Times, though, for your Minute app. But that these. This target, and they've been successful with that to target Anyone who show who could bring any credibility towards my message, then they just hope because of all the lit, the smears and the labels, people don't actually listen to what you're saying. And they don't. Well, they do now. They're starting to.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Yeah. It's interesting you're saying this because the Times reached out. They wrote an article about you on Manect. And I Rob, I don't know if you have the article or not. They reached out to us. They say, do you support the fact that Tommy Robinson. They sent a bunch of different questions and they were able to get Facebook and Instagram to prevent Manect from advertising on Facebook and Instagram for a full year. Well, we had to get legal involved. Asking us, why would you allow Tommy Robinson to be on Manekt? We're like, what do you mean? Why can't somebody ask him a question? You know, he charges $28aminute. That's his decision. If he thinks that's what he's worth and people are paying for it, you go put $50 if people want to pay for you, nobody has a problem. You know, we got Tom, Tony Robbins is on the neck, then he charges a lot more than that. You got, you know, athletes that aren't there, business owners that are in their actors that are on there. They get to pick and choose whatever they want to choose, whatever they want to charge. But it was interesting when they attacked us with this, just because some people want to ask you question on the net.

[Tommy Robinson]

Well, Patrick, you see what they've done to you. If it wasn't yourself and you believe probably in free speech, they'd have been successful. With any other company, they would have been successful. I'd have been kicked off, I'd have been silenced. And that has successfully worked for them. So as I said, you have the state and then you have the weapon of the state, which is the media. The media won't be silenced, so the state don't do it. They get the media to continually attack the companies that ever give us platform or say, for example, I don't know. I don't know if you're aware of what happened. For 48 hours before this event in London, Westminster Council contacted the company which we use to host the event. Yeah. So Westminster Council contacted them and revoked our licenses to set up our speaker systems. So there could be no speaker systems. That's 48 hours before the event now. And they told the owner of the company, we will personally prosecute you if you set up those speakers. That's what they Told me so we had an emergency meeting with the police and we're sitting with the police. I've got the full video of this which I'm going to release. Sat down with the police, said they're trying to provoke us into violence on Saturday. If, if we don't have a way of talking to our crowds and a million million people turn up, there's going to be anarchy. And the police are like, we don't want this. So there's been loggerheads, it's been a big internal thing with the police because the council were then asking the police to enforce the license. The police have then sat down with us and said, we're not enforcing it, so we will not enforce and prevent you sticking up your speakers. And it was just the council attempting, which is the government attempting to provoke chaos on the streets of our capital city. That's not their job. Their job is to uphold democracy. We had the licenses, we applied for everything. Right. We jumped through every hoop possible and still this is what they're doing and we've faced this for years. Joe. I don't, I, I can't host an event in a building in the UK and I just know I can't. Yeah. So I sold a thousand tickets in a week for a sit down event, 50 pound a ticket in Manchester. The council and the police, this is going back years. They went in to the venue and told them, we will take your alcohol license if you host this event. So that's sort of like what happens. And that's. It's been a, it's been a tried and tested method for the, for the media. It works. As I said, they've gone beyond you and they've managed to get Meta to make sure you can't go on there. For four years they've done this to me from every social media. As I said, I'm still banned. You can't even mention my name on there.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Yeah, I mean, I see that.

[Tommy Robinson]

It's wild.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

By the way, anybody that's watching this, if you want to support Tommy just to have free speech and you want to ask him a question or have a call with him, we'll put the link below in the QR code to support the cause. But just last week I'm watching this story. What can you tell me about this Shabana Mahmoud, Britain's new Home Secretary, who grew up in Birmingham? What, what do you know with her and what are some things to expect in the future with her in charge?

[Tommy Robinson]

Well, she's an Islamist. Simple as an Islamist. Just we can take what she says. The first thing to come to her, the most important thing is in Britain, it's not democracy, it's Islam. We need to understand what that means. We need to understand what that means. She. She signed off on my solitary confinement every 42 days. So with solitary confinement, there's a. It's called the Mandela Rule. You're only allowed to be held for 14 days. Where the prison only have the ability. They can hold you for 14 days. That's meant to be the limit, but the maximum is 42 days. After 42 days, it has to go to the government and then, because you're not allowed to. And then the government have to sign off now as Shabina Mahmood. Because when I was in prison, she was a Justice Secretary who signed off holding me in solitary confinement against the advice of psychologists and medical teams, of everyone knowing full well the damage that that does to someone, she continued it. That should have been in Mahmoud. She is women us believe that she's going to stop the boats, she's going to stop the massive flood of Muslim immigration into our country. It's insane. Again, every decision Keir Starmer makes. David Lammy, well, David Lamm, he's put him in. It's his saying, really. So. But again, it just helps, I think, to wake people up. Unfortunately, all of these things have had to happen. My imprisonment, Lucy Conley's imprisonment, a mother for 31 months for a tweet. Peter lynch, who was a granddad, who was. These are the riots after Southport, they say riots. He just held a placard and he got two years in jail. So all of these things are what's resulted in the millions you've seen in London this Saturday.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Yeah, I mean, it's all.

[Tommy Robinson]

It's all. Everything's played its part from. From Elon Musk, from Jordan Peterson interview to Elon Musk buying X and lots of bad things that happened. But you needed the situation, I think America, you needed Joe Biden. America needed Joe Biden for those four years because people needed to see. Because when they can see it, you know, they need to see how bad it can be. And that's what we're currently going through. We needed Kirsten in power. You need to get where a government can come in with a mandate. Now, Nigel Farage, as I said, Donald Trump made his mandate clear. He clearly said what he's going to do when he get in so he can get in power and do it. Nigel Farage isn't. And people are making excuses saying, well, he's just playing the political game till he gets in power, then he'll do all these things. It's like he's not gonna, he's definitely not gonna.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

So, yeah, when you, when you're looking at her, Shabana Mahmoud, she said in interviews, my fate, my faith is the center point of my life and it drives me in the way that I live my life and I see my life. And she said her Muslim faith is the core of who she is, who I am. And she's the first Muslim woman Lord Chancellor and the first female Muslim member of the Parliament. So there's, there's a, there's a lot of progress happening there with them wanting to spread Islam and different people like her getting elected. So your, your concern with how things are growing in UK from the last time you and I spoke to today, have things gotten better? We spoke a few months ago. Since two or three months ago when you and I spoke in Bahamas to today, have things improved? Has it gotten worse? Is it the same? What's the conditions look like in the last two or three months?

[Tommy Robinson]

Let's get worse and worse. Gets worse and worse every week that the borders are still open, the mass immigration is still coming in, sexual assault. Since we spoke, there's been, there's been, there was 12 days in a row where there was sexual assaults by migrants against British women. 12 days. There was a case every day, young girls being sexually assaulted by migrants in hotels. A young 12 year old getting raped by two Afghanis who's staying in a hotel. It just continued. It's just continued. And it's not going to stop, Patrick. It's not going to get better. Yeah, it's going to get worse and worse and worse because the borders are still open. They're still flooding them in. They said they're going to smash the gangs. Smash the gangs. They've done nothing. It's all orchestrated. They are continuing to flood this country. And I think that what Saturday was, was the British public coming together in their millions to say we've had enough of it and they need to listen. Saturday was a peaceful demonstration. We wanted a peaceful demonstration. If they continue, there's a dangerous part of the government going now. They're that detached from the British public. All of them are, you know, even the Labour Party, the Labour Party, that's the party that was meant to represent us, the working class. 90% of their members of Parliament were privately educated. I'm sorry, they know nothing about the working class. They've never lived it, They've never Lived where we live. We are the majority in this country and it's us who are affected by their mass controlled immigration. What it used to be, now it's everywhere, problems everywhere. People who didn't see the problem now see it. But again, whilst it's devastating, whilst it's bad, unfortunately this all has had to happen to get the public to a position where they are awake and Britain's awake now. As I said, I've been in this activism trying to wake this country up for 15 years. I've been asking where are the men of England? Where the hell are the men of England? How are we allowing this to happen? And the country, what I saw on Saturday was a proud nation and proud people. And if people had that pride, we wouldn't allow any of this to happen. We allowed it to happen because we lost our pride, we lost our identity, we lost our culture, we lost our belief, we lost it. And avoid was created and then into that void become every other ideology wants to bring the destruction of this nation. Whether it be Marxism, whether it be blm, any organizational ideas were promoted by our politicians. Islam, it's filled a void. It's filled a void after we lost identity. And you know what Joe? For years I used to hold, when I set up the fence, Lee, we'd hold a demonstration and the church leaders would be on the other demonstration protesting against us with the Muslims. So the church leader who's got no one in his church by the way, has no people there. Really empty churches. They were siding with them. The church lost their identity, the church failed Christianity. The church becomes so weak in this country and embarrassing. Flying LGBT flags from their church, going back on all of their values whilst Islam don't budge. Not now. There is a Christian revival happening right now in Great Britain.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

How did the religion of Islam grow so much in UK by the way? You know, what do you know about Prince Charles and his relationship with Muslims? Because he took an interest and he wanted to study them and he's been very respectful about it. But there was a high level of interest into him. What is his relationship with Muslims?

[Tommy Robinson]

He loves it. He loves his life.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Why is that?

[Tommy Robinson]

Who knows, who knows mate? Maybe he is a Muslim. Who knows? He, he, he comes out and makes comments like their great respect for Sharia. Sharia would subjugate every single one of us. Charles. But to be honest, he's not my king. Yeah. And I think most people feel that way. And he's not, not just on Islam, on the whole World Economic Forum, the whole global climate change Just everything he's been part of and supported everything. And he's meant to be non political. The Queen was non political. Didn't make any of these comments, Charles. Total opposite. So. And I think it should have skipped Charles and went straight to Prince William. Okay. Because the, the support for the monarchy is probably the lowest ever. I'm guessing. People have had enough. And he is meant to be our king and his, his people, which is us, our daughters being raped from one in this country to the other and they're continually being put in danger. And he said nothing. He speaks up for the great contributions Muslims have done. If there was no Islam in the uk, we wouldn't even be having these discussions on immigration because immigration hasn't caused the problem. It's Islamic immigration that's destroying this nation. Yeah.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

I'm looking at this with the comments he made. Rob. There is multiple comments. He's made views on Sharia law. He made it back in the days as well as some of the ones that's been recent if I'm not mistaken. But he's constantly seems to be supporting it. And by the way, if, if he was one, let's just say he is Muslim. Of course now it makes sense that this, these types of things are happening. You know, it would show that there is support for it. No one's fighting back. But there is no documentation that he is a Muslim himself. There's just a lot of stories written about it.

[Tommy Robinson]

He was also. What was he given? He was handed. Was it a million pound cash? That's justified. Google that story from Qatar, I believe. But he, he was given a million pound cash, bag of cash. And yeah, it's hard to know, but he is part of the same elite. Yeah. Which has the destruction of every one of our countries, including his own. They are flooding this country. No one can look at Great Britain and say it's gone in the right direction. No one, no, everyone from around the world is now laughing at Great Britain. They're laughing at it.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Yeah. It says right here. It was alleged that between 2011 and 2015, Prince Charles reported to have accepted 3 million pounds, 2.6 million in cash from Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim Bin Jabbar Al Thani, a former Prime Minister of Qatar. The cash was allegedly given a physical form, suitcase, a holdall. What is that in phantom mason for carry back. These payments were then deposited into the Prince of Wales Charitable Funds. The office is denying any wrongdoing.

[Tommy Robinson]

Was that sound like big bag of cash? Sounds legit, doesn't it? Yeah. That's just the one that we know about. What else? Because Qatar. Qatar is the problem. Qatar's the big problem now. Qatar is funded nearly a billion pounds in Islam is not Islamization of Europe. Every French go, Qatar are behind. Yeah. Including separating and segregating and polluting the minds of those Muslim communities. Guitar Are behind. Qatar are behind the Muslim Brotherhood. Qatar are in bed with all of them. Qatar embedded Hamas and whilst they do this, they're buying their way for our country. They own more. They own more in our capital city than Prince Charles. So. And here he is taken. How many years ago was that? So we know what the relationship is. He's laundering money from Qatar. He's being handed money from Qatar. What the Qatar get for that? It's not for nothing, is it? You don't give someone 3 million pounding cash for nothing. That's just a minor little probably a little biscuit of the. Of the corruption that's going on. But what do they get? They bought. They have bought our country. They bought the ports in our country, they bought the shopping centers in our capital C. They bought the Harad Harrods, they bought everything. So. And they bought our politicians. You can see how they bought them. But the public are not willing to be bought. Do you know mad story. There's Conservative MP called AF Salaman. Look this story up. Yeah. AF Sal Amin put AF Salahman Tommy Robinson. Now this Conservative MP approached me during my days in the English Defence League. Yeah. He was. He. And, and he sat down, he contacted me and I went to see him. He said, I want to sit down, talk to him. And he offered me money. He said, tommy, you will never worry about money again. I said what you want? He said, I'd like you to set up a demonstration in the. The area that he was. His area, which was Dudley. And then let it all blow up, let everyone get hyped for this big demonstration, then I'll step in. Because he was a captain in the British army for 10 years, so he spent a decade as a captain. He taught at Sandhurst. He taught Prince William and Prince. Yeah. At Sandhurst. He spoke the Queen's English better than the Queen. Yeah. And he was a Muslim, so he's perfect for what they wanted. As in a perfect face of a Muslim who they can push forward and say, this is a perfect Muslim. So he approached me. My head start thinking, so I. This is before I was doing journalism, this one. I was just a street activist. So I said, okay, let me, let me go away and think about that. And step, another meeting. So I went away and then I set up another meeting with him and I wore a wire and a camera and strapped in. And when I sat down, he bought two other Muslims with him and they were gangsters. Yeah. So that he sat down with these two Muslims and I recorded it all and that. And I said, lads, and then I said, what are you doing here? He goes, oh, we're fine, we're just in. We want him in. I said, but you don't strike me as Conservatives. They said, no, we're Labor. I said, so if you're labor, why are you supporting him getting in if he's Conservative? They said, we just want our man in. Said, okay. So from that I record the whole thing and he tells me, tommy, when. When there's a room of 200 people and David Cameron comes in, that was our then Prime Minister, he walks past everyone else and makes a beeline straight for me. I've already been offered my seat on the Cabinet. What Cabinet seat I'm on. And I don't have the view of just getting to be an mp, Tommy, or on the Cabinet. I'm going all the way to the top. You are going to have an unshakable ally after this.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

What year is this? What year is this?

[Tommy Robinson]

Google it, it'll come up. 1415, 2015.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Got it. I'm tracking.

[Tommy Robinson]

So sorry, I've been ill. 2015. So he. He sits down, he tells me all this, I get it all on camera and then I go away. And a week before the election, I walk into the Daily Mail because I wasn't a journalist at this point, I was just a street activist. So I walked into the Daily Mail and I said, right, it was a week before the election. I said, here is your next Tory minister, Cabinet minister. And he's offering me money and he's offering me friendship and partnership if I can fake a demonstration. And he's doing it with these people. So when you read that story, you wouldn't read that story and know it was me that gave them that story because I had to sign an NDA. And then they hammered me in the story, but I didn't care because I should have got recognition for this. Yeah, because I prevented. So when this come out, then the Mail, and you know what he said in this? He said, Qatar, he has already secured funding from Qatar to end all the homelessness. This is in his area. So he said he had a full eight year plan in his area. That then in eight years, that when you looked at his track record he would have sold homelessness. He had millions and millions coming in, investment from Qatar all set up. So he had, he had everything planned for his next four to eight years where he would regenerate the entire community of his area. So it just looks great for him. By the time he gets to the point where he wants to go to the top, then they do an investigation. Once, once I out this, the media then start looking into him. They find leaflets that he made about three, four years before he joined the military talking about his, him supporting the Mazradin taking over towns and cities in the UK to take over and have an Islamic caliphate in the uk. He. So basically he went undercover as a jihadist, spent 10 years, went to Sandhurst, then was a captain for 10 years in the British army. There was about at this point to be a cabinet minister for our government until I out and when he rang me. So when I was in the Daily Mail, I didn't get a phone call for him. And this is the problem, I get a phone call and he says, Tommy. I said yeah. He goes I've just had the Daily Mail on the phone. I said yeah. He said what's going on? I said some things ain't for sale. Afsel you cheeky. You cheeky bastard. So, but the problem is most politicians are for sale. Yeah. We've just seen then. What do you think that bag of 3 million pound cash is about? People, even our, even our royals have said, looking at that, it's not a.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Lot of money though 3 million pounds is not a lot of money to give up a country that was once the, once uk, it was Great Britain. The Great Britain. Right. Is it worth only £3 million? That's not a lot of money.

[Tommy Robinson]

£93 million. Guitar spent a billion. Guitar spent a billion to do this. Guitar funded all. So Qatar spent a billion. Now what they used to do is you used to be able to get people to, to convert. They'd spend street dower stalls. All these charities they like my, my hometown has a shop in our town center called Discover Islam funded. It's a charity and its purpose and its job is to convert the Luton population to Islam is to go out and reach the non Muslims and bring them in. This is all mainly comes back from Qatar and places like this. Yeah. Now they used to do that. Now they just get the influencers and convert like Sneako take people, the people convert. That, that's then powerful. So that then is worth hundreds of millions of them to pay because they get more, more people convert. But With Prince Charles or with the country. That 3 million pound is one that they've had to declare. Who knows what's else going on. But I know that the money that they put into the country. GUITAR Qatar is huge. And the government bend over for them. Bend over for them whilst allowing them to. Because they need them. Like now France. I'm looking at what France doing the Qatar. But they need their money. So they need their money. So they sort of turn a blind eye to the Islamization of our country and allow them to. Allow them to back it as well as Muslim Brotherhood. How are the Muslim Brotherhood not banned? How is this terrorist organization not banned in our country? The danger of it. How even Hizbhtaheer. Hizbhtaheer are now banned. But why weren't they banned for the last two decades when they're banned in United Arab Emirates and many Muslim countries. But in our country they were allowed to just foster every single Islamic society in the country. In our universities was Hizbah for the last two decades. Now that's a terrorist group. And you've allowed them to set up Islamic societies basis in every university. And you wonder why when you see the now level of antisemitism and the hatred of Jews coming out of our universities. And it's like, it's not hard. You've literally had a camp whose purpose is to do that, to have bases in every. Every bloody university across the west, including the United States of America. It's mental. It's just mental when you have to look at. And many Muslim countries and Muslim nations know how to deal with these groups. So they ban them and they come down and look a ton of bricks. We don't ban them. We come down on anyone who talks against them with like a ton of bricks.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Yeah. You know when you're saying Qatar, of course, the World cup, when they were allegedly paying bribes for the World cup to get there and you've seen different numbers from 10, 25 million to 880 million. And then obviously they did what they did and people went to the World cup saying, what was this all about? This didn't even make it. Why would you do the World cup in Qatar? So they are famous for allegedly putting money into things. But you said something about the rallies in. In going up against and finding Jews. Okay, so your rally takes place. I'm trying to think what. How bold you guys are being. There's two rallies. This is Mohammed Hijab. Okay. Which. I don't know. Have you guys ever met each other or. No.

[Tommy Robinson]

No, Mohammed sent me recently. He thinks he's clever. So this was to intimidate me. So sent legal letters to my children's home. That's what he did. Now he knows I don't live with my children do. Yeah. So he sent legal letters. But that was, that was to let me know because I was talking about him now. To let me know, I believe for him to let. Threatening me for where my children are. So that's what he'd done. I sent the letters back within because he's. I do my homework on everyone. So I sent my letters back to his personal address the next day I just returned them straight to him. Said, don't play with fire, you mug. So he, he is an Islamist, he's a radical, he supports. And I come out and said he's a caveman. And now recently again he said his Muslim law firm have sent me all these legal letters now again saying they're going to sue me. But I said the same like I've already been sued, I've been bankrupt. I, I said he's a, he's a caveman who supports pedophilia or apologizes for pedophilia. He's a pedophile apologist. That's why he said he soon before recently. But Mohammed Hijab, the problem is, see, not even YouTube. Mohammed, you chef. We were sent deep platformed delete from everywhere for talking out against these groups. Mahmid Hijab supports these groups, justifies it. And here and he's got a monetized channel so he gets paid to do it. The unfair treatment against people speaking out compared to the radicals, they were left alone. But yeah, Mohammed Hijab's dangerous.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Yeah. So this is him, Rob, if you want to. Because I want to show both of them this is him which, the direction it's going, it's looking like it's going to be pretty nasty in UK for a minute. So Rob, can you tell me what this is about? This is when this is.

[Tommy Robinson]

I'm not sure the exact date.

[Robinhood Advertiser]

I know this was in the past year or so. This is Muhammad Hijab running through the streets of London looking for Jewish people.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Okay, play the clip, Play the clip on.

[Tommy Robinson]

It was terrifying. The boys had to be rescued by.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

The police as bottles and eggs rained down on them. Muhammad Hijab then threatened a police officer that he'd kill the boy's dog if he saw it again.

[Tommy Robinson]

However, when that, when those viners came in with their dogs. Yeah, that was, that was an act of provocation. So what we're saying now, and I'm making it very clear so everyone understands. Yep. If those dogs come close to us again, we will see it as an.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Act of aggression and we will kill those dogs.

[Tommy Robinson]

Right. We'll put them down.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Hijab and Dawah then led the crowd to Speaker's Corner. And as the mob marched through London streets screaming, Jews, we want them. Okay. The police did nothing, let that sink in. So this is what I want to know. If you can pause so. So in while this is happening, Tommy, what happens to them? Is this open game in London where you can do this and nothing's gonna happen to you.

[Tommy Robinson]

Cars travel down. When you look at people getting detained for hate speech, you gotta see this video. Cars travel down from Manchester, so two and a half hour drive to drive through the Jewish area of, of London to shout out the windows, we're going to rape your doors. That's what they've done. Now there's a video of it. So you hear them do it. They didn't get prosecuted.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Who's saying that? Who's saying we're going to rape your daughters? Who's using those lines of Muslims come.

[Tommy Robinson]

Down from Manchester into the Jewish area of London to drive around the Jewish area of London to scream out the windows, we're going to rape all your daughters. We're going to rape all your daughters. Now, they don't get prosecuted for any of this yet anyone who says anything or remotely even against the government has been thrown in jail on our side. So again, these hate speech laws are brought in. They're not brought in to tackle hate speech. They're brought in to silence the indigenous population whilst their country has changed beyond recognition, to make it so that no one can speak about it. Because they're not there to stop. If they were there to stop. Like we saw them calling for jihad on our capital city after October 7th. Literally stand there saying, calling for jihad. The group doing it with his parts here. When they did that and it had, they had banner about Muslim armies rising when they did that, the Met police put out a statement saying that, oh, there's plenty of different means, there's different meanings of jihad, so you must think we're stupid. But they continually allow this. So Muhammad Hijab has even ever been arrested. There's another video of him where he traveled up to Leicester where mobs of Muslims went hunting Hindus. Yeah, just last year in Leicester and there's a video of him there where he's absolutely attacking Hinduism and attacking Hindu gods. If anyone Done anything similar. So they just don't get prosecuted. They don't. And everyone saw it. So again, another important role to get the country to where it's been this last weekend, unfortunately, was October 7th. October 7th. And the reaction to that, the hatred across the west in all our capital cities. But in London, the ability for Hamas supporters to take over our capital city week in, week out and not face arrest. And the public are watching them committing crimes, seeing their crimes committed their own with their own eyes. And the only people facing arrest are the people there talking out against Hamas. So people watch all this. This two tier policing, two tier policing become just a part of our vocabulary.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

So I want to play this other clip. Rob, when you, when you guys are doing your protesting, this video that goes viral as well. Can you, can you have the video? Not this one, Rob. That's the other one that they're protesting on the streets. You. The one that Humberto just sent you, that you pulled up, you just had it up, Rob, on the screen. You literally just had it up a minute ago. Do you know which one I'm talking about or no, no, let me find. So, okay, let me pull it up to see which one this is. So I'm gonna put a thumbs up for you to find it. So this is.

[Tommy Robinson]

Oh, got it. Okay.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

This is the protests are happening on your end 24 hours ago. Where I'm trying to go with this is if this is, you know, the unite the kingdom. And they're screaming, who the F is Allah? These are the chants. Right? If you want to play this clip, Rob, go ahead. Okay, you can pause it right there. So from a guy, from an outside looking in, Tommy, From a guy from the outside simply looking in, these two stories here with what hijab is saying and what these folks are saying, you're weeks, if not months away from chaos in the streets, in waves, in ways we may have not seen in a while. Are you not sitting there thinking to yourself, okay, this thing's going to get very, very nasty the next 30, 60, 90 days.

[Tommy Robinson]

I'm thinking that unless the government addresses this issue, it's going to get nasty. Unless the government, unless people see light at the end of the tunnel, unless they see a solution to the destruction of their nation, people are going to go to desperate measures. And I've been seeing this for a long time now with regards to those quotes. All we ever hear is Allah Akbar. And then usually a bomb or someone gets stabbed or someone gets killed, or it's used in a inflammatory attack sort of Way where they're screaming aggressively over issues Now. I told a story this week. We paid respect to a gentleman called Boy Lana when we had the London Bridge terrorist attack in London where free jihadis rammed a van into people. Then they jumped down with knives. They went into Borough Market, like a little food store area of London, and they went in restaurants, started stabbing women in the neck and butchering them. And they murdered loads of people as they'd done that. There was a Millwall, a Millwall football supporter. There were famous. So we paid tribute to him at the event. And someone sung a song and the song was. The song was. Had them screaming Alarak bar. And Roy Lana said, you, I'm Millwall. And he started fighting with them, but he was stabbed lots of times. So what hits it? Did he get recognition for that? No, he actually got arrested for making comments about Islam months later. So he was stabbed, butchered all over. Watch people be murdered.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Seriously.

[Tommy Robinson]

They arrested him, put him on a prevent course for his. For his wrong, wrong, wrong force on his lung. That's what they did.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Where did this happen? What city was it in? What was the sad.

[Tommy Robinson]

It was a London Bridge terrorist attack and his name was Roy Lana. So pull up, you have the pictures of him. He was in a hospital bed and he obviously didn't remember anything. But then all the other witnesses were like. As the terrorists were stabbing everyone, one man run at them and he shouted, he shouted, you I'm Mill. Which is quite funny because Millwall football hooligans are very well known across the uk, across the world. That's it. Yeah. He said, you're on Millwall, but. And he didn't get recognition. He's never had. I actually done a sit down interview with a podcast with him to understand what happened. And he went into a spiral after this, a postmark stress disorder. He had no help and then he. And then he faced prosecution and arrest from the police instead of help for having the wrong thoughts on Islam, which is again, by the way.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

So, okay, so while this has taken place, the two of you. Have you guys, have you and Hijab ever seen each other or ever talked to each other one on one?

[Tommy Robinson]

No, I never seen it. Never seen it.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

So what would happen if you guys were in the same room talking to each other?

[Tommy Robinson]

Ali Dawa, who's his friend Ali Dawa, done a campaign where he was going looking for my family home and he done a video and it was at the end of my mum's old house road. He done a video saying, all right, Tommy and the part behind it is my mum's. My mum's where my mum used to live. So he again, this is what they do. He's trying to intimidate me. He's at the wrong house. And then he rings me up and then he rings me up on. On live record. And I didn't know he's recording but he said about coming to my house. I just said it'd be the last thing you do. You'll meet your 72 virgins if you come to my house, mate. It will be the last thing you ever do. So because these are jihadists, that. That's who they are. They pretend they're not. They try and play the silver tongue clever line but they're dangerous and they're radicalizing and they're recruiting and they act as like the moderate level to bring or sort to bring the youngsters in and that's what both of them do. But they're like a little partnership. Ali Dawah and Muhammad Hitcher. But we've been, as I said, if you look at what I've faced, a full weight of everything against me. They don't get anything, they don't get arrested, they don't get criticized. But they're both on camera saying that they'd let that one of them from camera saying he'd let his daughter be married at nine years old. But he's got a daughter now. Personally, I think for her own safety she should be protected from a father like that or for that Islamic belief. But the problem is we have lots of underage marriages going on in the uk. Google it. Google Islamic underage marriages across mosques across this country. They're marrying children and our government again is too sensitive.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

I don't understand that. I don't understand why any of that would. Why the governments of child marriage thriving in UK due to legal loopholes. Warned rights groups. Go a little below and letter to the PM. What year is this rob written?

[Tommy Robinson]

It says 2021.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

2020. Zoom in a little bit so I can read. Legal loopholes allow 16 in England. Wells married parental consent and exploited your course. More than 20 organizations have signed a letter to the Prime Minister insisting current forced marriage laws does not go far enough to protecting young people. Yeah, I mean, you know, this to me is common sense. The only way, Tommy, I see this being allowed and look the other way is the power has to be from all the way at the top. It's the only way I see it.

[Tommy Robinson]

Even, even female genital mutilation. It's been a Crime in this country since the 80s carries a 14 year prison sentence. 55,000 British girls, would you say, say.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

That one more time? 50, 55,000. What? We lost you for a second. 55,000.

[Tommy Robinson]

55,000 girls have had their genitals mutilated. So Muslim girls had their clitoris cut off, which endangers them, which is dangerous, sometimes means they can't have kids. Lots of problems from it, mental health problems for the rest of their lives from it. But no one faced prosecution. I think the first prosecution was last year or the year before, like a little token case. But with these children, they're allowing them to be moulated and let's be honest, many of these problems, like even the grooming gangs, if we were to look up the parents of these children just off those figures, it would take up every prison cell in our country. So some of the problems are that big that they just allow them to happen. Cultural sensitivity. We'll allow your little girls to be mutilated because we don't want to be deemed as extreme or racist or a government that's oppressive. So we allow a crime that carries a 14 year prison sentence. They literally just allow Google on the female genital mutilation. It's insane what they've allowed in this country to happen because those little Muslim girls, they're little British girls, they're born in Britain and they should be protected, but they haven't been because they allow it. And some of those marriages happening to 12 year old children, 12 year old little girls being buried in mosques across our country. And again, we're extremists for pointing out and say it has to come from the top. It's like, it's not a mistake. Mass immigration is not a mistake. It's happening. There's an attack on every western nation. Our country's being flooded, our cultures are being diluted. All the while while they're doing this, as I said, the mass corporations are benefiting from this. So. And the European Union and groups like this don't want individual countries to have individual identity. How to get them away from. I'm German and I'm Spanish, you just flood them, flood them with new cultures that then break down that resistance, break down that family, break down that community. And that's what we've seen happen. We don't really have strong communities.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Tommy, let me ask you, I'm sorry to interrupt you. I'm still, I'm still in shock. I'm just looking at this right now. The numbers, the estimate of 137,000 to 170,000. Given a broader view of how many might be living with FGM is what they call it. Fgm, which is called Female Genital Mutilation in uk. So President Trump, when he found out that the fentanyl was coming in from Venezuela and what was going on there, they went ahead and they got actively involved in the issues that was going in Venezuela. What role or interest does the President have in us hearing things like this that are happening yet? The President is a Christian man, he's a white man, and he's seeing what's happening in uk. He's got a lot of. He's got a lot of respect for the country, the history of it, who is in his ear for him to find out the stuff that's going on there, to be involved and maybe influence the UK government to be a little bit more actively involved while these young girls and young kids are being affected by it.

[Tommy Robinson]

Well, he already has got involved on the free speech issue. Now, if we weren't. If they can take our speech, which is their goal, we can't even talk about these issues then. So there's an Islamophobia bill that the Labour government are attempting to pass. If that passes, me giving you the facts and the statistics about the Islamic rape gangs would become illegal, I'd face criminal prosecution. So they're coming for our speech. I know that America just stopped them getting access to every one of our messages on these and spying on us. America did that. J.D. vance did that. Your Republican Party have done more to fight for our free speech than anyone. There's no one here fighting for it, because, again, not only do we not have free speech, but they don't even believe in it. Just as I said now with the Reform Party, they don't actually believe in free speech. So you have a country and then the new generation coming through. Also, if you look at some of the. From the. From their indoctrination in the education system, many of them believe in free speech. If we don't have our speech, that we can't even highlight these issues. So I think Donald Trump and America are obviously keeping a close eye on the developments of Europe. You know, when J.D. vance went to Munich and he confronted them on free speech, he told them, you don't have to worry about Russia.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

That's right.

[Tommy Robinson]

Your biggest enemy is within. And you know what that was like for us to hear. Do you know what? Because hope is contagious and we have hope. I think you can see by this Saturday now, the public have hope. They also realize we're not alone in this fight. It's not because we've always been alone. Yeah, we've been under attack and we've been alone. But now we have the leader of the free world who's seeing this, who speaks about this. The encouragement that gives us, Elon Musk. The encouragement is give the public to have such a, such a huge character and successful man just speaking out. In America, you just speak facts and you speak truths which people have been too scared to speak. Here, everyone's been scared, which I know that sounds mad and it's quite embarrassing, really. You look at what I'd say is a nation of fearless men all throughout history, the toughest men, who have always fought tyranny, who have always sacrificed, who have all been willing, always been willing to go to battle. And then I look at that and think we were paralyzed through fear. We allowed a generation of our daughters to be raped. We actually allowed this. Well, I think when we get through this, people look at this era and just in absolute shock of what was allowed to happen under the guise of diversity and under the power of political correctness, people really underestimate the power of it. It's that powerful man. And the problem you're going to have in America is when the Islamic community becomes such a votement, when they come such powerful that they, they then swing states. Yeah, that's when their power really comes. Because when, when you look at the UK and you look at the problems in the UK, I think they still say it's only 6% Islamic. It's like Jesus Christ, what the hell do we think it's going to be like at 20? Saying it's no one actually planning this. There's no one planning ahead here. So no one looking because they're playing it planet. They've been planning for 1400 years. They're planning, their goal is caliphate and world domination. That's what Islam wants. That's it. It's in the book. So those are actually planning. Our politicians plan every four years. Someone needs to be looking at 20 years, 30 years, four years.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Oh, I, I, I believe that. I, I don't think they're slowing down. I, I've given my strong opinions on that when it comes down to the States and I don't think they'll stop until they get what they want or America changes certain policies. By the way, I'm curious, did you see the recent Banksy art that was put up, I think, on like just a week ago or something? Did you see that art piece, I think it is in uk, if I'm not mistaken. Baxon's latest mural has been scrubbed away. A look at the artists, other works that were destroyed. What can you tell us about the Banksy paint? Banksy art in uk.

[Tommy Robinson]

I think it's even more powerful when they scrubbed it, like the message, because it was about the corruption and the judges coming down on the people, which is because Banksy was doing pro refugee art. I thought maybe he's had his moment as well. Maybe he's had his moment to realize, like a lot. Like a lot. So what else changed this weekend was that there were celebrities. There were celebrities at our event and quite a few of them, which is, you see, when they. When it becomes acceptable to speak then. Because a lot I can tell you from my diary messages, how many professional footballers, how many boxers, how many of them offer me their support all the time, but none of them publicly. None of them publicly. Then this weekend there was more. I don't want to name them, I don't bring trouble to them, but there were more people who stood up this weekend and I was surprised to see some faces there and encouraged, totally encouraged, because it's. When you've had this in America, I used to look at America and be envious because you had people with big platforms like yourself, like Charlie Kirk. You've had lots of them who are mainstream, who are credible, who have spoke openly and honestly about issues in the uk. We've never had anyone. We've never had anyone at that level, anyone in media, anyone in politics, anyone in government. We've never had anyone. So it's always been left to us, which, when it's left to us, it was quite easy for them to pigeonhole us as a certain demographic, young men, working class men. So it wasn't that difficult for them to do that. They're struggling to do that now, especially with the amount of women. It's like a. Women are. A women's army is formed. I don't know if you've seen the group the Pink Ladies. Now, these protests, these organic protests, sporadic protests that are springing up across the country are led by local women in many of the issues, women speaking out. So, yeah. But with regards to the banks, er, the whole country knows now, we don't have a fair judiciary, we have a corrupt judiciary. We have a corrupt judiciary which attacks people based on their political ideas. And that's. And everyone can see it.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Everyone can see that for him to do it, but for him to do it is a big statement by the Way. Rob, can you. Can you show the picture of what happens after they try to scrub the mural? I send you a picture of it. If you want to just pull it up. Because the way it looks, if you just go back and. Rob, Google it. Just Google that word right there. Google the word and put it scrubbed. You'll see it. Banksy mural, UK scrubbed. Scrub. Yeah, there you go. If you go to it, images. That's what it looks like now. So interesting what it looks like now. You're right, it does actually look better than it did before. Tommy, what. What's your next event, Tommy, that you're going to be doing? Have you already decided what the day is?

[Tommy Robinson]

Yeah, we just were talking on the date, but we want United Kingdom, united the West. So because this is an issue, I think London, when you see the crowds this weekend, London has now been chosen as the battleground for these ideas, as in free speech against mass open border immigration. We'd love to work with partners across the world. This isn't just affecting us. I've always watched these movements and protests and same with the populist parties in Europe before. Why are they not all together? All of us are affected by this. Let's not look at what we disagree on, let's look at what we agree on. All of us that were there, so we unite the kingdom successfully. They come from Wales, they come from Scotland, they come from Northern Ireland, they even come from the Republic of Ireland. We're all there because we love our countries individually, we love our identity and we love our cultures, but we are stronger together. That would have put the fear of God into them, into the establishment. Irish nationalists traveled with Loyalists. These two groups with the war in Northern Ireland have been at war with each other throughout history. They've hated each other, Catholic and Protestants. They were traveling and come together to this event. So something big's happening now. I'd love to have a vision of us redoing another event like this, but we want world leaders there. We want the world's leaders to be addressing the populations who are the leaders on these issues. So we'd like Geert Wilders to be there, we'd like Maloney to be there, we'd like Victor Orban to be there, we'd like to Donald Trump to be there. Yeah, but we, we, we. And obviously the venue we had here, they blocked us having two venues, so we couldn't. Those millions that turned up, I think the ne. The only place the next one can be is in the High park of London. This could be Our generation's Live Aid, because we make it into a concert. We make it celebrationary, we make it about identity, but we also drill home our. Our message of. Of what we want and how fed up we are. And it gives hope and that you see the millions that come, then you can guarantee you we're going to double that again next time.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Well, telling you, Tommy, I will say. Tommy, I will say this to you, and I said this to you last time we spoke. I don't live in uk. I've been there. I've been to London. Beautiful place, great people, great conversations, rich history. And it's sad to see this taking place there. But in every generation, there comes somebody that's got courage to be able to go lead a movement like this, that's fearless and it doesn't seem like anything is going to back you down. Doesn't sound like you're going to go away anytime soon until you get what you want. And I pray for you to stay as close to God as possible. I applaud you for your courage and God willing, good things will happen to your country that obviously you love and you're proud to represent. Tommy, any final thoughts before we wrap up?

[Tommy Robinson]

Just so Britain's awake. I hope the world sees that now. So many people have spoken for so long. I heard people talk about when the British wake up, and I was always thinking, when is this country going to wake up? After being smiling for the last however many weeks, I knew this was coming. You listen to my interviews. I told everyone, million. It's going to be a million people. It's going to be the biggest protest this country's ever seen. It was downplayed. It was downplayed. I knew what was about to happen then because I can feel it and see it everywhere. I'm going to. I know the public feeling is there. They now know that they're going to be worried. I think I do need prayers because they're going to want rid of me 100%. And they managed to successfully put me in prison many times. I'm in Court on October 13th. I could be back in jail for Christmas. But again, that's not going to work. Surely they see that now. It doesn't work. You're not going to shut us up. We're not going to be silenced. We're not bowing to submission. We won't submit to Islam, we won't submit to Annie. So, yeah, Britain's awake. We need to make our plans, but we're grateful for every bit of support and everyone who's helped, as I said, you know, must put a thing out. We are the media now. When they said 110,000, their power has gone. I'm laughing at them. You know, Sky News were tweeting. Sky News put outside count. They had 12,000 people watching their, their news from our event with their propaganda. We had 2 million. So you don't have the power anymore. You can't just attack us anymore because we can just pick this up and correct you, which is what they don't want. They don't want that level playing field. So we need free speech and we also need citizen journalism.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

And by the way, guys, if you're watching this and you want to pick this up and support Tommy, go send him a minute. If you want to send him an encouraging message, ask him a question, do a call with them, pick this up. The Times doesn't want you to do it. The Times doesn't believe in free speech. They don't want you to talk to them at all. But if you support what he's talking about, Amanda's level of courage to go out there and simply have free speech, show some support by sending him a message there. Tommy, once again, appreciate you for your time. I know you just got up to do this interview to different town where you're at. We wish you all the best, Tommy.

[Tommy Robinson]

Thank you. Cheers.

[Interviewer (Patrick)]

Take care. Bye.

[Tommy Robinson]

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