Massie's Primary + Climate Change Hoax Exposed | PBD #800

Summary

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PBD Podcast #800: Massie's Primary + Climate Change Hoax Exposed | May 18, 2026

Host: Patrick Bet-David
Guests/Co-hosts: Adam, Vinny, Tom

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Episode Overview

This episode of the PBD Podcast dives into a jam-packed news cycle: the high-stakes Kentucky GOP primary (focusing on Thomas Massie), internal Republican party dynamics, the impact of Trump's endorsements, the unfolding crises in New York (including second home taxes and the Long Island Railroad strike), international turmoil from the Middle East to the UK, and a critical look at "climate change hoax" narratives. The Home Team also touches on viral moments in sports, podcast culture, and the tensions around AI and employment. Expect incisive breakdowns, sharp banter, and a no-holds-barred attitude on current events.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Thomas Massie’s Primary Battle and the GOP’s Identity Crisis

[09:25–40:15]

• Overview of Massie’s Record:

  • Massie, often labeled a libertarian-leaning Republican from Kentucky, faces a surprisingly tough challenge from Ed Gallerain, a Navy SEAL/farmer who flipped the race in the final stretch.
  • Voting Record: Known for his fiscal conservatism, voting against both parties on spending bills, Ukraine/Israel aid, Iran war powers, and more.
  • Massie’s Heritage Action and party-alignment scores peg him as "less than average GOP, above RINO."
  • Controversial Donor Base: According to FEC, 79% of Massie’s individual donors are from Democrat/liberal PACs.
    • Patrick Bet-David: "Massey's individual donor base, 79% from Dems and liberal PACs... as legit as it gets." (13:00)
  • Trump Factor: Trump and several GOP insiders have worked to unseat Massie, citing party disloyalty.

• Friendship vs. Political Reality:

  • J.D. Vance's prior warning:
    • "Voting against the party on every single issue, you're eventually going to make too many enemies." (16:39, Adam quoting Vance)
  • Massie votes with Trump ~88% of the time, which is actually average—yet it's enough to get "put in the crosshairs."

• Libertarianism’s Limits in the GOP:

  • Multiple panelists argue you “need voices like Massie,” but political reality is that “the market will tell you who wins.”
  • The grassroots libertarian/independent streak is contrasted with MAGA’s overwhelming influence.
  • Adam: "To me, they like Massie, but they love Trump. And that's the problem." (40:10)

• Significance:

  • Internal GOP power struggles, the rise of “Trump as establishment," and how primary elections signal party direction.

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2. New York’s Second Home Tax & Economic Climate

[42:28–56:46]

• Tax Law Changes:

  • NY Governor Hochul’s new proposal lowers the threshold for a second-home property tax from $5M to $1M, potentially affecting hundreds of thousands more property owners.
  • Only 7-13,000 homes above $5M; lowering to $1M brings in over 350,000 properties.

• Panel Reaction:

  • Adam: "60–80% of New York City homes are worth over $1M. So now everyone's on the hook." (45:17)
  • Patrick: "If you have a second home, you're already paying property taxes... Is that not a good customer? And you're bitching about him? Just take the revenue." (47:08)
  • Tax policies may be designed to intentionally drive down property values or drive out high-net-worth residents.

• Migration Aftermath:

  • Once the rich leave, "very hard to get them back"—states can lose tax base permanently.

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3. Long Island Rail Strike Crisis & Political Blame Games

[63:12–71:17]

• Strike Details:

  • 3,500 LIRR workers strike, affecting over 300,000 daily commuters.
  • Hochul blames Trump for the labor unrest.
  • Trump’s Response: "Kathy, it's your fault... Call me, I'll get it done." (66:03)

• Panel Commentary:

  • Tom: "This shows Dems can't run a business... When the union wanted more, the Dems moved the finish line, then blamed Trump." (66:50)
  • Extra bus service covers only 12,500 (vs. 226,000 daily gap).
  • Adam: "There's two words Democrats will always use: 'Blame Trump.'" (69:11)

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4. UK Meltdown: Tommy Robinson Rally, Starmer’s Fate, & Free Speech Clampdown

[71:17–81:45]

• Mass Protest in London:

  • Huge turnout (estimates: >100,000) in support of Tommy Robinson, protesting government policies on speech and immigration.
  • Starmer (PM) accused of weakness on energy (not opening North Sea oil), immigration, and suppressing free expression.

• Free Speech Crisis:

  • UK leads world in "arrests for online comments" (12,183 compared to 1,500 in China).
  • Patrick: "That is countries with most arrests for online comments. Number one—UK, more than China." (78:08)

• Public Sentiment:

  • Nick Shirley (via Adam): "These people are not far right. Black, white, men, women—they just want their country back." (80:02)
  • "Stop calling people racist when they don’t agree with you is getting boring.” (citing protest signs)

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5. Iran Strikes UAE—Middle East Escalation & US/Israeli Response

[89:36–102:01]

• Key Events:

  • Iran attacks UAE’s only (nuclear) power plant via drone strike.
  • Trump and Netanyahu hold 30 min call; anticipation of US/Israeli response.

• Panel Analysis:

  • "The air of expectancy has been cranked up..." (report segment, 89:42)
  • Tom: "There’s only so many times you can make a tweet like this (threats). The Iranians are trying to wait this out." (93:14)
  • Trump is firm: “Iran will not have nuclear.” (98:31)
  • Adam: "If Iran won’t negotiate, they’ll blow up Carg Island... That’s the Trump card." (100:46)

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6. Climate Change Hoax Narrative Exposed

[102:01–114:00]

• UN Walks Back Extreme Warming Scenarios:

  • Trump claims victory after UN's climate committee abandons RCP 8.5 as too alarmist.
  • Patrick: "The UN just admitted its projections... were wrong, wrong, wrong." (103:10)
  • Panel contends climate policy has always been about "control, globalization, and wealth redistribution" (Tom, 104:00).

• Mockery of Alarmism:

  • Vinny (re: Greta Thunberg): "Ecosystems are collapsing... Then she jumps to a new cause when exposed." (106:59)
  • Dan Peña viral quote: "Not one single investment perspective written this century has alluded to global warming... If it were true, the banks wouldn’t finance a condo near the ocean." (107:36)
  • Tom: "You were taught climate change in school... it’s called seasons.” (106:27)

• Cultural Effects:

  • Climate activism linked to emotional manipulation and calls for redistribution (via carbon credits), now being publicly questioned.

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7. AI, Jobs, and Generational Anxiety

[114:00–119:38]

• Wave of Booing at AI-Praising Commencement Speeches:

  • Eric Schmidt (ex-Google CEO) is booed at University of Arizona commencement for lauding AI.
  • Patrick: "You have to note this is one of the worst [boos]... they’re worried for their jobs." (114:00)

• Anthropic CEO Prediction:

  • "Very high GDP growth and potentially also very high unemployment and inequality... We've never had a technology that's this disruptive." (118:22)

• Patrick: "These kids… you’re taking our jobs away. That’s what they’re feeling." (119:38)

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8. Rogan & Theo Von: Mental Health, Comedy & SSRIs

[121:44–132:05]

• Theo Von’s On-Air Confession:

  • Theo shares that he's been on antidepressants for 20 years, since a bad breakup (122:32).
  • Rogan expresses concern and describes public signs of breakdown; Theo responds that he’s fine, sparking viral debate.

• Commentary:

  • Vinny: "Sometimes people say they're fine when they're struggling. SSRIs are no joke." (124:42)
  • Patrick: "He [Rogan] is the leader of the pack... when private isn't working, you say it in public, hoping it breaks through." (132:05)

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9. Sports & Culture: World Cup/Neymar Drama

[133:53–end]

• Referee Debacle:

  • Brazilian star Neymar is accidentally subbed off due to a ref mistake, then given a yellow card—potentially threatening his World Cup prospects.
  • Patrick: "I've never seen anything like this... if he doesn't get picked, a lot of fans will be angry." (133:53)

• Other Mentions:

  • UFC fight letdown (17 seconds), Jake Paul’s combat sports ambitions, and pop culture tie-ins with Rogan and podcasting icons.
  • Side story: "Hotcakes with Hot Takes" plugs, Michael Franzese cameo, and an extended metaphor about customer service, gyms, and leaving states due to bad policy.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Massie’s Support:

  • Patrick Bet-David (13:08): “Massey’s individual donor base—79% from Dems and liberal PACs… as legit as it gets.”
  • Adam (23:01): “You don’t have to be against Trump on more than 10% of votes to wind up in his crosshairs.”
  • Patrick (25:47): “Trump is now the establishment. Massey is now trying to be anti-establishment.”

• On New York Property Taxes:

  • Patrick (47:08): "If I buy a second home and pay property taxes but don’t use the city services, I’m the best customer—and you’re trying to drive me out?"
  • Adam (45:17): "A $1M home is a shoebox in New York."

• On UK Speech Laws:

  • Patrick (78:08): "That is countries with most arrests for online comments. Number one—UK, more than China."

• On Climate Change:

  • Tom (103:33): “It was always about control, globalization, and wealth redistribution... Now it's undeniable their models were wrong.”
  • Vinny (106:27): “You were taught climate change in school... It’s called seasons.”

• On AI & Job Loss:

  • Anthropic CEO (118:22): "Potentially also very high unemployment and inequality. We've never had a technology that's this disruptive."

• On Rogan/Theo Von:

  • Theo Von (122:19): “I want to feel how I'm supposed to feel so I can have thoughts and actions that make me feel connected to the world. That shit [SSRIs] makes you feel dead.”
  • Rogan (123:43): “I've known too many people that I didn't think were going to kill themselves and then did.”
  • Patrick (132:05): “Sometimes you say it in public because in private isn't working. Rogan is the leader of the pack.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Massie Primary & GOP Struggle: 09:25–40:15
• New York Second Home Tax: 42:28–56:46
• LIRR Strike & Political Blame: 63:12–71:17
• London Protest/UK Clampdown: 71:17–81:45
• Iran–UAE Nuclear Escalation: 89:36–102:01
• Climate Change Debate: 102:01–114:00
• AI & Youth Anxiety: 114:00–119:38
• Rogan–Theo Von Mental Health: 121:44–132:05
• Neymar & World Cup: 133:53–end

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Tone and Style

The conversation mixes humor, banter, and sharp criticism, especially regarding politicians, institutional narratives, and "establishment" figures. There's a combative skepticism toward mainstream media, climate science activism, and left-leaning policy. At the same time, the hosts show respect for risk-takers (even failed ones), express serious concern over youth anxiety about jobs, and openly discuss mental health in comedy.

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Memorable/Must-Listen Moments

• J.D. Vance on Massie: Voting against your party on every single issue, you're eventually going to make too many enemies. (16:39)
• Greta Thunberg “Then and Now” Segment: The crew mockingly tracks the journey from “teen eco-activist” to meme material. (111:17)
• Dan Peña Rant Replayed: “If it were really true, the banks wouldn't invest, the banks wouldn't finance, not one motherfucking condominium.” (107:26)
• Eric Schmidt Booed at Commencement: The audio of "No! No!" (113:23) as AI job worries boil over among students.
• Theo Von SSRIs Reveal: “I want to feel how I’m supposed to feel... That shit makes you feel dead.” (122:19)
• Panel on NY Tax Policy: Extended metaphor about gyms and good customers, contrasting property tax logic. (47:08)
• UK's Online Speech Arrests: Visual spike on chart—“UK more than China.” (78:08)

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For First-Time Listeners/Newcomers

If you haven’t caught this episode, expect rapid-fire topics, plenty of back-and-forth, and a mix of policy wonkery and straight talk. The hosts don’t hide their biases but provide data, sources, and addresses criticisms directly. You’ll get a real sense of how different issues—from small-town primaries to geopolitics and AI—connect in today’s media and political landscape.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Patrick Bet-David]

Did you ever think you were made again? Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever saw. It's right here. You are a one of one. My son's right about. I don't think I've ever said this

[Adam]

before,

[Patrick Bet-David]

By the way. Pretty busy weekend, Lots going on, lots of fights, lots of arguments. Primaries being done tomorrow, L.A. cassidy losing coming out. Trump calling him out, the person that won against him as a two term senator. Massey's got it tomorrow. Nasty, not looking good. Long island, you know, the railroad strike shut down. Hoka blaming Trump. Trump going back and forth. Rob, what's the number? 300,000 people.

[Adam]

That's what they're saying.

[Tom]

300,000 commuters in New York affected today.

[Patrick Bet-David]

300,000 commuters in New York affected by. Again, a lot of stuff to go on. Boebert jumps in there supporting Massey. She says, I'm for Massey and Trump. So it's kind of like, I know you've done extensive study on the massive story, so massive stories that will come to you. And then there was a fight. There was this UFC fight that everybody waited and it was kind of like, you know, when you're like, you know, you'll see what I'm going to do to you tonight type of thing, you're talking dirty. And then the fight lasted 17 seconds.

[Vinny]

That was, it was disappointing, anticlimactic.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It was like, you know, 17 seconds. You thought it was going to be a bigger fight, but then Ronda came out and took that. But I thought all the other fights were great. The fights we watched was great. Even the bigger thing right now that's going on as a capitalist that I'm excited about is competition, 100% because we've never had leaks competing. Like MLB does not have competition. NFL, they try to do this. AFL, all this other stuff, they don't have competition. XFL, they don't have. NBA doesn't have competition. NHL doesn't have competition. Can you imagine if Jake Paul is able to pull it off for UFC to have competition?

[Adam]

Wow.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Can you imagine when they were going in the middle of the fight, Ngannou was walking out. They announced the next fight for UFC with McGregor against Holloway part two.

[Vinny]

Crazy.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And they ask Ngannou, they're like, what do you think about the fight? What, you want me to walk back out? You want me to go back up? And what do you mean? And Jake Paul had some thoughts to say about, I like this, I like this competition because there's a thing that they're trying to figure out right now, the lawyer, the Armenian guy. Can we get Jon Jones to fight Ngannou in their card? Not ufc. Oh, my God, that would be massive. And then you got United Kingdom rally in uk. Folks, if you see this number, I'm going to show you on how many arrests happened in UK just due to online comments versus the rest. Have you seen this chart?

[Vinny]

Nope.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Versus the rest of the world. You will be flabbergasted.

[Vinny]

Just talking crap to people online.

[Patrick Bet-David]

People getting arrested for comments you make online in uk. And then Tommy Robinson comes out and they do another rally. I don't know how many people shut up. 100,000 plus. It was massive.

[Vinny]

Good.

[Patrick Bet-David]

All over the place. Almost to the point that some people are saying Tommy Robinson fired Keir Starmer because Keir's about to step down. And can you imagine if Tommy had a little bit to do with that? Who knows? Maybe, maybe not.

[Tom]

I know Elon is stepping down because he lost and he has to clean out his desk.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It's pretty nasty, Tom. It's pretty nasty. So while this is going on, Iran hits a UAE power plant over the weekend. This is their sole power plan that they have. And Trump and Netanyahu have a 30 minute call together. And Trump comes out and says, hey, this is your last, you know, threat. You're going to get your last chance. You better make this thing work or else. And some are speculating today, there's a big meeting that they're going to have in the situation room. And there could potentially be an attack tomorrow, any round. Tomorrow, as early as tomorrow. It could happen, by the way, quietly. You know who just had the biggest drone attack over the weekend that no one's even talking about? You know who?

[Adam]

Uae?

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, Zelensky. To Russia.

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Did you guys follow this?

[Vinny]

Cars are still driving over the.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Quietly, like, yeah, we're going to do this because you're hitting us and we're hitting you because apparently Russia hit them and killed like 54 people, 55 people. And quietly. While all this stuff is going on. Yeah, Russia and Ukraine, they're going to have their peace deal. Boom. Zelensky hits them. You conduct a large scale drone strikes on Russia, killing four and wounding 12 others. This happened over the weekend. Quietly. No one's even talking about it. And then quietly, there is a new way to transport oil that UAE is tied to. And Saudi did one as well. We can talk about this over the weekend. Trump had a lot of victories. One of them was the number two guy in ISIS was taken out on the way back from China, he tweets it and says the number two guy was trying to hide. We took him out and then at the same time he took out climate change over the weekend. I don't know if you guys saw this or not. So it was. So Al Gore had a rough weekend. What's that 14 year old girl's name that's 30 now, who was like, she looks like she's 45.

[Vinny]

She looks pretty bad.

[Adam]

Oh my God.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Greta Thunberg.

[Tom]

Yes.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Am I saying it correctly?

[Tom]

Always had a crunched up face.

[Patrick Bet-David]

She always looked like she's.

[Adam]

Now the older she's got.

[Vinny]

The ecosystems on a crunch collapse.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I wonder if Al Gore's face can do that because sometimes Botox doesn't allow you to do that. According to some studies, like when you do too much Botox, people don't know if you're happy, angry, or you're any of that stuff.

[Tom]

The impact of Botox is an inconvenient truth.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay, tomorrow. So next is Hochul. Hochul made a. Hochul made another thing where they're talking about these vacation homes, second homes in New York. He says there's only 8,000 of them. Yeah, yeah, there's only 8,000 of Them. You know how many people have second? You know how many second homes there are in America? Second homes, six and a half million. And she said it's only 8,000 in New York. It's not like it's a big deal. They rate. They lowered it from 5 million to a million. Massive, massive situation. They're just kind of dry. It's almost like the way they want to lower the prices of houses in New York is by making it so unattractive to own a home. So valuation goes down. Just a double dumb, communistic, socialistic idea that. Tom, we'll come to you on that. Mamdani apparently tried to have a meeting with Ken Griffin. Ken Griffin didn't want to have the meeting. And then there was a couple other stories. Eric Schmidt gets up there. I believe he's a great operator. I think he's a great teacher. But he's given a commencement speech and he says what AI is going to do? You thought the boo of that lady last week was bad? The boo he got is 10 times worse than the lady got last week. I don't know if you saw this or not.

[Vinny]

Who was the guy?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Eric Schmidt guy, you follow? He's a futures guy. Commodities guy.

[Vinny]

Commodities.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Eric Schmidt used to run Google, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, he was the CEO, CEO, Google it's pretty bad. And then Neymar. This is a story none of you guys are following. I'm following because World Cup's around the corner. Anybody follows Neymar? Rob, do you know who Neymar is?

[Tom]

The soccer player.

[Patrick Bet-David]

The soccer player. Neymar. Yeah. He's at Fox News now doing some commentary with Scott Jennings.

[Adam]

What? Hey, we're doing good. We should score the ball in the goal.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Let me tell you what happened yesterday. A massive, massive thing happened yesterday with Neymar that if you're not following, maybe we'll get into it where he had to show the receipts. It's pretty bad. They're playing Santos and this is his last chance to kind of show up. So Brazil chooses to take him as one of the players going into a World cup, and the referees accidentally subbed it for his number. It wasn't him being subbed out. And then he even got a yellow card for it. It's a nasty situation. What happened? World cup, you want the best players to be there, especially a guy like Neymar. You wanted to be there. And then Rogan and Theo Vaughn. Rogan made some comments about Theo Vaughn, because I think Theo talked about that he's been on SSRIs since a breakup he had 20 plus years ago. And he's talking to Rogan about it and getting off of it, how tough it would be. And then Rogan made some comments about how he's feeling with his health. And of course, Rogan's lost friends on suicide, especially in the comedy world. And then Theo responds back. And then there's a bunch of commentary. Two of the biggest personalities in the podcasting section of Rogan, one of the most famous people in the world. So that commentary became big and maybe we'll address that as well. And we got a few other stories too. On top of that. While we're doing this, couple things I do want to announce to everyone. Just so you know. I want to make sure we're repeating this over and over and over again to everybody. Two big things. One, those of you who did the survey, I think the 25 gift card that we sent to you had a 30 day lifespan. If you haven't yet taken advantage of it, I'm going to send an email to you again right now. If you check your email, you did the survey, you got it. Thousands of people already took advantage of it. If you haven't, I don't want people to say, well, Pat promised this. He didn't do this. There's a lifespan for it. Go take advantage of it. I think it was emailed to you. It's in your mailbox right now. And there's a bunch of new things out there in the, in the store to go take advantage of. Even though there's a couple stuff that's coming out, there's a bunch of stuff out there for you to go get. So go to vtmerch.com if you got your gift card activated from Shopify Number two next Monday. If you guys want to know about the Vault Conference, with the new announcement we're making with four speakers, I intentionally chose this four speakers. I want you to text the word vault to 310-340-1132. Text the word vault to 310-340-1138. It'll be our biggest one ever. First time we're going to the West Coast, MGM Grand Arena. Rob, Watch. This is a lineup of some of the speakers we've announced over the years. Go ahead, Rob.

[Tom]

Sam. Foreign.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Next Monday on the podcast 25th, we'll be announcing the four speakers. But those who text the word vault to 310-340-1132, we'll hear about it before anybody else. People are already buying tickets. This weekend was massive with people buying tickets for the Vault Conference. I can't wait to see you guys at this year's Vault Conference. It'll be a special one, one for the history books. Having said that, let's get right into it. The first three I want to get into is Thomas Massie. Why is Thomas Massie such a big story? So Thomas Massie, his primary is tomorrow, and if you think about Thomas Massie from Kentucky, he was leading the way. He was way ahead. Nobody was even thinking about this guy having a chance of losing. Like, the thoughts were like, there is no way this guy's going to lose to this other guy that he's going up against. And I'll give you some numbers for you to be thinking about with Thomas Massie. Rob, I know you have a lot of a few clips on this one here. It was so massive that the president got involved. It was so massive that you had people, you know, some are saying, well, he's not a Republican. He is a Republican. He is more like a libertarian. I don't know what positions he's got. I don't know where he's going to be at it. Trying to see. I had all these notes here in front of me. Where these notes disappear to. I don't know. Rob, this one's not on you. It's on me. Is there any other notes here? Vinny? Are you taking notes from me? Vinny? And you're not even oh I have it. I found it. Here it is. Thomas Massie let's go back to the story. So why do some people love him? Why do some people not love him? Let me give you a little bit of both sides. Big beautiful bill that came out what his voting record is. He was One of the two GOP's that voted no for it. He said didn't cut enough wanted $2 trillion plus more spending cuts okay second time the final passage Was that the first time he didn't vote for no again Fiscal conservatism he called it fake deficit reduction TRUMP 2025 budget he voted no for it Budget increased spending wanted real cuts Epstein files demanded public release Iran war powers airstrikes opposed Demanded congressional vote Ukraine Israel aid no multiple times He's a non interventionalist that's his position Speaker Johnson he ousting mtg's motion he supported it Continuing resolution debt ceiling no routinely refuses to vote for any spending he deems wasteful Then when you go to FAC per FEC analysis 79% this is a very interesting data Vinnie for you to be thinking about Massey's individual donor base I didn't know this till this morning by the way 79% are from Democrat, Democrat and liberal PACs. So let me say this one more time. Massey's individual donor base 79% is from Dems and liberal PACs. So Dems and liberals want Massie. This is per FEC analysis and Tom, is it fair to say that feces is somewhat credible of a source that when you see numbers from them is as legit as it gets?

[Tom]

That is absolutely correct. They are the authority on those numbers. People get sued or even indicted on discoveries FEC makes.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So now that's that part when you're looking at it on top of that as you go into this it gets a little bit deeper as well on where the lead was between Massey and this fellow he's running against whose name is Gallerain which by the way he's a Navy seal. Okay I believe a four time he's he's a award winning Navy seal, he's done his part in military and Massey had a massive lead just last month. If you look at last month where he was at open watchdog party alignment okay 73% of the time Massey votes with the GOP that's below GOP average above Rhino threshold Heritage Action scorecard scored Massey at 71%. GOP averages 80 to 90% for them. Okay. In 2024, Vinnie, when he won Massey, you know what his score was when he won? 75.9. Landslide victory. Very different race than the one that's taking place today. In April, just last month, his lead was 47 to 38%. Apparently today, Rob, what you showed me, Gallerin. Gallerin is at 48.3 to Massie, 43. And to another poll, May 11, May 12, Gallerain is 53 to Massey's 45. So he's up 8% plus minus today. Tom, how did Massie go from having such a big lead on Gallrain to all of a sudden Gallerain flipping and having an eight point lead on him?

[Tom]

Massie lost all the support. And with his support, you lose the secret money. Now, I don't mean secret illegal money. I'm not saying that, but I think people who know elections know what I'm talking about. You know, Vinnie, we always talk about the PACs. That it. You know, people putting $5, $10 on their candidate. Those days are gone. You know, candidates like to say, I only take donations from the regular voter. I don't take donations. Well, guess what? All of the money, the. The RNC. And when you see people like J.D. vance and other people talking about Massie. He lost all that, Pat. All that money went to unseat him. And then he also ended up in very public fights. And there's something that J.D. vance said. He said voting against your party on every single issue is a problem. Not just one or two or three, but every issue. And we couldn't count on your vote when we needed it. So in Washington, remember, there's brokering of votes. Hey, Pat, look, you're in Nebraska. You need my vote on farm, you give me the vote on the Colorado River. Will you do that? You know, Yeah, I can do that. Okay. And then if you do that, then help me out with the lumber vote. That's here in, you know, Arkansas, Kentucky, where we are. Great. And so these deals get made, and they're not like backroom deals. It's just like how votes are brokered in Washington. Massie ended up as a man on an island with no friends.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. And by the way, this is the talk you were talking about from J.D. vance. And this isn't recent. This is from seven months ago. So it's not like we're talking about. This happened this week. Rob, you want to play this clip?

[Adam]

I think the problem with Thomas, and

[Patrick Bet-David]

I've told him this in private and now I guess I'll say it in

[Adam]

public is it's one thing to disagree with the party on a particular issue.

[Vinny]

It's one thing to take, you know,

[Adam]

to take to have your independent stand on a number of questions. And by the way, some of the

[Patrick Bet-David]

stuff where Thomas Massie is, has been

[Adam]

independent against the Republican Party. I've agreed with him, with Thomas and I worked together during 2023 where I was trying to stop the limitless flow of American money to Ukraine and Thomas was one of the people I was working closest with it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But that's one thing, being independent, having

[Adam]

your own opinions is one thing. Voting against the party on every single issue, you're eventually going to make too many enemies. And that is the problem that Thomas has had. It's not one issue, it's not three or four issues. It's that every time that we've needed Thomas for a vote, he has been completely unwilling to provide it. That is why the President united.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And by the way, this is what's funny about Vance saying this. If Rubio says this, that's one thing. Vance is a non interventionalist. Vance is some would say an isolationist. Vance is probably on the side of Massey. So if Rubio said it, they're going to say what? Well that's a neocon saying that, you know, all that other stuff. Yeah but when Vance says advance is closer to Massey than Rubio is closer to Massey. Vinnie, your thoughts here?

[Vinny]

And from that, from that list of his do's and don'ts, I mean the two that stuck out that I could 100% get on board with the Epstein files where he's like I want 100% disclosure. Obviously that didn't happen. Still not going to happen. I don't think it's ever going to happen. And then the funding for foreign wars to anybody, Ukraine or anybody for that matter, I'm cool with that. But a 75% you said is donating. He's completely against the party. Why are you a Republican? Why not go to the Democratic Party or become an independent?

[Patrick Bet-David]

According to FEC, 79% of Massey's individual donor bases Dems and liberal PAC.

[Vinny]

OK, so either either they have you there because they know what you're going to do and they're funding you or the other be a Democrat, then go be a Democrat.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So here's the question.

[Adam]

Independent.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But here's the question because he will say, well his opponent got money from aipac. Okay, okay. So you have a candidate that you got to vote for Conservative1 got money from AIPAC and say, you know, I don't know what can you. Can we pull up Gallerin what percentage of his money he got from aipac? Gallerain, I think what percent? Because, you know, the big story right now is, which hopefully we'll get into is how Israel became the topic that broke the Republicans. There's a story that just came out over the weekend. So that is an issue that a lot of people will say, well, you know what? He's taking money from aipac. Great, no problem. The other guy, the other guy. So Track Ganderson has benefited roughly 5.71,000. Robbie. Just according to Track APAC's breakdown, one snapshot listed PAC donations. About $62,000 is what he got. Okay, so, but what percentage of G Rayne's money came from aipac is what I want to know. Rob, can you find that part out? So then this the question for you. You have two candidates. One's got money from APAC, the other one didn't. Massie didn't get money from APAC, G did, but Massie got 79% from Dems and liberals PACs and say gallerain got zero.

[Vinny]

I'm honestly not voting for either because I don't want one person getting money from a foreign country.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I can't control that. Trump got money from aipac. Then what do you do? What I'm saying to you is Trump got money from aipac, is that going to get you not to vote for Trump?

[Vinny]

No, I haven't.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So in 2028, if Rubio gets money from AIPAC, you don't vote for him. If Jayd Vance gets money from AIPAC, YOU don't vote for him and you have to vote for Newsom.

[Vinny]

I would never go Democrat ever.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But. But what this is saying to you is 79% of his donor base is Dems.

[Vinny]

And I don't. So, you know, I think that that's like a Trojan horse put in by. By the Democrats. If that fact just say 80%, 80% of your money is coming from the opposition that's trying to destroy the country.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Why do you think. Why do you think it is? Adam? That's 79% according to FEC. Rob, this is the report you gave me. Can you double verify this? That 79% is from Dems and liberal PACs.

[Vinny]

That's crazy.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Go ahead.

[Vinny]

Doesn't make sense.

[Adam]

Yeah, listen, I don't think Thomas Massie is as bad as they're making him out to be, but you know, we read A book back in the day you met, you know, give us a sign. It was called Ideal Team Player. Remember that? Being a team player.

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Patrick Lencioni.

[Adam]

And the challenge with Massie is that he has such values and principles that mean so much to him. And respectfully, I hear you on that. But you're a part of a team, and you're a part of an agenda, and you're a part of the Trump agenda. Here's what we know about Trump. You're either with him or you're against him in the Republican Party, and whether he's been with him or not. And I'll get into some of the numbers he's perceived as against him. So here's some numbers for you. Do you know that the average House representative, Republican representative, votes with Trump 95% of the time? So just pick a Republican representative. That person votes with Trump 95% of the time. A Senate Republican votes with Trump 96% of the time. So on average, there's about a 5 to 6% chance you're not voting with Trump. Where does Tom Massie fall on this list? Anyone want to take a guess? If he votes percentage of time that

[Vinny]

he votes with Trump, 15%.

[Adam]

15% he votes with.

[Vinny]

With Trump.

[Adam]

Trump, what about you?

[Tom]

I think it's probably about 33%. I think it's probably a little overblown.

[Adam]

33% votes with Trump.

[Tom]

Correct.

[Adam]

Copy that. What about you, Pat?

[Patrick Bet-David]

The number you hear is 91% of the time he's with Trump. That's the number everybody keeps dropping. So tell us, what do you have?

[Adam]

You're very, very close.

[Vinny]

Really?

[Adam]

Massey votes with Trump and the Maga agenda 88% of the time, and he votes against the agenda 12% of the time. And you might think, well, that's not that big of a deal. Well, he's second in voting against the Trump agenda. Who's first is a guy named Brian Fitzpatrick in Pennsylvania who they basically say, great. Great quarterback.

[Vinny]

Great beard.

[Adam]

Beard. Great beard. They say he's like the John Fetterman of the Republican Party.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Brian.

[Adam]

Brian. He votes against Trump 20% of the time. So we're grading at a scale here. What's my point? In theory, you think he votes with Trump 15%. That's a big number. It's 85%, but 88%. But the reality is this 10 to 12% will get you out of favor in the MAGA Republican Party. So, for instance, where did Marjorie Trader Greene vote with Trump? She was actually pretty average. 95%. So what this shows Is you're either with, not with Trump. Are you with the agenda? And if you're against the agenda, and if you're in Trump's crosshairs, if you crosshairs 10%, you're going to be in his crosshairs.

[Vinny]

10% off, 5% off.

[Adam]

So just so the people that he attacks the Most, it's basically 80, 20, Susan Collins, Murkowski, Rand Paul, 85 to 15, Mitch McConnell. The bottom line is this. You don't have to be against Trump on one or two things for, to get his attention. But if you're in that 10% range and you're blocking the team. What did J.D. vance say? I'll end it on this. He said on the Times that we needed you, Thomas Massie, you weren't there. You weren't there. So imagine we're on a team. I was like, listen, I need you, Vinnie, on this one, brother. Can I depend on you? And Thomas Massey goes, no, man, you can't. That's why Trump is going against.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Here's what I would tell you. Here's what I would tell you. You need people like this in there for there to be a debate. Okay, but the part that you gotta know what America is saying, you know, I used to be a big libertarian myself. I was a libertarian myself. I relate to a lot of the libertarian principles. Leave me alone. Let me go build my life. But guess what? The Libertarian Party over and over and over again has proven itself that your voice isn't big enough to win an election. The closest Libertarian that ever won in the last 20, 30, 40 years is President Trump. He's the closest Libertarian candidate they ever had. And here's what it really comes down to. The part where it comes down to, to me is the following, is that, you know, you make your argument. So who sides with Massie? Is it fair to say Tucker sides with Massey?

[Adam]

Yes.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Is it fair to say Candace sides with Massey?

[Adam]

Yeah. Is it fair to say that's her favorite politician?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Perfect. Is it fair? Who else endors bigger name? Give me the bigger names. That's going to be on Massey side. Give me bigger names that are on, on Massey's side. Those are the names. So guess what? So if that, if that's who you want, which by the way, we will probably get criticized on the MAGA side. You stop talking about Epstein. We kept talking about it no matter what. And we're going to continue to. If story comes out, we're going to talk about it. Because what happens to kids. I'm not with it. I want to keep talking about that. The other thing that. For us to continue to talk about some of the stuff that he supported is Ukraine, all that stuff. Okay, no problem. Why? That's not our war. That's somebody else's war. If we're going to fund our war that our leader made a decision to do, great. Different story. And you can debate that and go ahead, but for us to go out there and give amount of money for other people's wars, different story. Because I'm not about constantly giving money to NATO, and NATO is not. So, yes, we're on that page together. But whenever you go up and you say, I'm going to go against the existing president and here's what I'm going to do. Guess what? No, by the way, not poof. Cuz. Who did that? Who did that in 2015? Trump, of course. And what did he do?

[Adam]

He's saying, going against the whole system.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Massey is following the playbook of Trump. Trump went against the establishment Republicans, sure. Trump went against Bush's. Trump went against McCain. Trump went against everybody. But guess what Trump did. He won. So if Massie's gonna go make this argument to say, hey, I'm gonna go against the existing establishment. And today's EST is who? Trump. Now it's Trump. Trump was anti establishment. Trump is now the establishment. Massey is now trying to be anti establishment. And guess what the market's going to tell you if they're with you or not. And if the market's not with you, guess what they're telling you. As much as we like you and we want your voice in there, we're more with this guy than we're with you. Why? Even if you go. And by the way, I've invited him. Massey to come on here. Rob, how many times have we invited Massey to be on here?

[Adam]

A dozen.

[Patrick Bet-David]

A dozen times to be on here. I want to talk to the guy, right? I want to talk to the guy. Obviously, at this point, it's tomorrow, so it's a different story. I want to know. Because he says something like that makes sense. I like what he's saying. So Boebert goes out there and says, look, she defends both of them. She says, I endorse Trump and I endorse, you know, Massie. And I think Massie is good for the market, Right. While she's doing this, Massey's kind of looking at her funny. I don't know if you saw this clip. Massey's kind of looking at her funny. He's like, I don't Know if this is going to be good or bad for us. This is her. Below is my friend, Thomas Massie. He loves America and is fighting to save it. Also below is my friend and president Donald Trump. He put his life on the line to save this country. I support both of these men I've worked with both to serve freedom and liberty. And if that makes you angry, bless your heart, that is. Trump responds back. And Trump says if. Is anyone interested in running against weak minded Lauren Boebert in Colorado's Force Congressional? You remember Lauren moved to the district when it became obvious that she couldn't win an original district, the third. A carpet bagger indeed. Boebert is campaigning for the worst Republican congressman in the history of our country, Thomas Massie. And then he goes on. And nobody who can be that dumb deserves a good primary fight. Even though I long ago endorsed Boebert, if the right person came along, it would be my honor to withdraw that endorsement and endorse a good and proper alternative. Just let me know or announce your candidacy. I will be there for you. Okay, so now some people will say, well, that's a bully. You're pushing them out. This is the game of politics, lover or hate it. This is, this is why people watch it. This is why to me, this is my favorite sport. This my, I used to follow all these others. My favorite sport, today's politics, such an interesting game to be a part of. Then there's this other guy, two term Senator Cassidy, okay, who's in Louisiana, who was one of the seven Republican senators who went and supported the impeachment for J6. Yeah, one of seven. And guess who gave Cassidy his endorsement first?

[Vinny]

Trump.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Trump did and he forgot and he flipped on him. So guess what happened to him last night. A two term sitting senator of Louisiana lost last night. And if I asked you who beat him, I guarantee you don't know the name.

[Vinny]

You're absolutely right.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And guess what that tells you. You know what it tells you? It doesn't matter if they know your name or not, Trump's endorsement still carries weight. Say whatever you want. Trump doesn't carry weight. He's lost his base. He's maga's, lost maga's laws. Really? Is that why Massey's flipped eight points just a month ago, he's up, a month later he's down. Is that why Cassidy lost? Because you know, he was saying whatever he was saying about the President. And by the way, even if you listen to his speech where he's like, well, you know, this is not about one man. This is about ideas. And this is about this. You supported J6 and even a story, Vinny, maybe in cover later on today about Michael Fanon, if I'm saying the name correctly, that came out in the camera. Shows guy wasn't having a heart attack. Was a bunch of bullshit. You fell for it.

[Vinny]

Yep.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And you lost. So this is him giving his speech. Go ahead, Rob. I've been able to participate. You have? You got Lindsey Graham going. No, because there's the thing people don't know about Rob. Rob loves Lindsey Graham's voice.

[Vinny]

He loves white noise. White noise.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Listen, guys, don't judge him. He's fine. Go ahead and be able to participate in democracy.

[Vinny]

And when you participate in democracy, sometimes it doesn't turn out the way you want it to. But you don't pout, you don't whine,

[Patrick Bet-David]

you don't claim the election was stolen.

[Vinny]

You don't find a reason why.

[Patrick Bet-David]

See, but this is the thing. You can pause that and it sounds like you're getting support. Those claps. We're in the clap audit business. How many people are in that room clapping? Go back again for the clap. No, it's not 12. It's not 12. Listen to it.

[Vinny]

Let me hear.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Go to. Go to a center. Go to 20 seconds.

[Vinny]

Let's hear this.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Watch how many. A little bit backwards prior to a lap.

[Vinny]

Right there, right now. Find a reason why.

[Patrick Bet-David]

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[Vinny]

25 to 30.

[Adam]

25 to 50 at the most.

[Vinny]

No, there's not 50 people. Excuse.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay, what do you think it is? Rob, how many people?

[Adam]

Yeah, I wouldn't say it's any more than 25. That sounded like four people clapping.

[Vinny]

Okay, all right, so I was right.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But listen, Rob is also guesstimating I'm the professional with clapping. Okay, gotcha.

[Vinny]

There's wine. So Jim Clapper over here.

[Adam]

So. So what's he over. Under?

[Patrick Bet-David]

I don't know what the number is. Not 20 people. I. I'm going to say high 50, low 30 is what I agree.

[Adam]

I totally agree with you.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But. So, so, but. But the part becomes you went against him for J6. So did Pence. Where's Pence? Pence launched a book yesterday. Did you guys see the tweet with Pence's book launch? No. How many guys even knew that Pence launched a book yesterday? Go to his Twitter account. Go to his Twitter account. Pence launched a book right there. Go. Go to his link. This is a guy. No. Rob, can you do me a favor? Go to his account to show how many followers he has. He's got 5.6 million followers. Okay. He's a 48 VP that we had. Can you go back. Okay, can you go back to the. How many likes did he get? 785. And look at the first comment. No one is buying your shitty book, traitor. But this is not. I don't. Maybe it's a good book. I don't know if it's a good book or bad book, but you went against somebody. You took the position. You lost. We lost, right? Like Tropic thunder, right? Now you're lost. Now you don't know what to do. So what happened? So look, Trump still carries the big stick. Trump still carries the endorsement. What's this, Rob? Do we have the exact. How many it is?

[Adam]

This looks like the concession. The concession speech yesterday. And here's the amount.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Can you fast forward a little bit to see if we can tell how many people. Does somebody do a turnaround? I can't see the stuff you see. I want to see the behind.

[Vinny]

There's less.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That looks like 49 people. And guys, 49. 51 people in the room somewhere on

[Tom]

and on the left.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Those are all professional photographers. I'll come to you with Cassidy. Adam, your thoughts on Cassidy losing and Massie being where he's at right now? Today or tomorrow? You said Rob, it's tomorrow. Okay, yeah, go ahead.

[Adam]

Cassidy already lost.

[Patrick Bet-David]

He lost. He lost.

[Adam]

And then if you want to pull up the Cali for Massie, he. In the last week or two, it's just gone the exact Opposite way. There it is. Ed Gallerain.

[Vinny]

Never heard of him.

[Adam]

Doesn't matter. He's in.

[Vinny]

He's a Republican.

[Adam]

But here's a couple quick things. Number one, you talked about libertarianism. I flirted with being a libertarian for a little bit. And then I realized I have to live in the real world and not live in fantasy land where if it's okay, if you're in Kentucky, because who are the biggest libertarians? A lot of them are in Kentucky for some reason. The Rand Paul's of the world, the Massey's of the world. But then reality steps in and goes, yeah, you actually have a real country to run. Peace through strength, stability through strength. We have to actually do things that you might not want to do, but have to do. And that's where libertarian sort of falls apart. But regarding Cassidy, his fatal flaw was almost a Godfather thing. And what's the famous line in the Godfather? Never go against the family. And if you do, you can disagree, but you don't do it publicly. And the Republican. There's a graveyard of people that went against Trump publicly. You brought up Mike Pence. I mean, I'll just go rapid fire here. Liz Cheney, Mike Pence. You talked about Chris Christie, Adam Kinzinger, if you remember him, probably the greatest name in politics. Adam, you know, but he's now, basically, he's nowhere to be found. John Bolton, Chris Christie, all these people went against Trump and where are they now? That doesn't mean that you can't go against Trump, but when you do it publicly, that's the problem. Can I give one quick example? I've learned from you on some leadership. Do it against the agenda. There might be people that worked here that are no longer here, that maybe I think highly of or I don't, whatever. But I'm not gonna say how I feel about them and undermine you publicly. That would be so stupid. Walk the company line. I'm on the agenda. There's people that may have worked here that I didn't like. I don't say anything about them. There's people that worked here recently that are in the public eye. I don't say a word. None of my business, apparently.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Multiple people's public eye, but correct. Keep going.

[Adam]

But there's also people that worked here that I really liked. Yeah, but they're out of favor. And for me, I keep it in the family. So what these guys are learning is you can do your criticism of them, but when you go on the national stage.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Adam]

And you try to get elected by going against Trump.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Adam]

You're basically a dead man walking. Thomas Massie.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, I mean look, but that's the part. So if you think I actually respect the risk, I do too. I respect the risk. But that doesn't mean you are going to win. And you thought you were bigger than him. People keep saying, I think after Trump is over with his endorsement is going to be nothing in 2028. They does say otherwise. Yeah, they does say otherwise, Tom.

[Tom]

So I love case studies and I love studying politics and I'll add something here really fast. Everybody remembers Joe Lieberman two years ago. He had a fall at home, passed away in his 80s. Older gentleman at that time, really sad, served the country well. He was the VP candidate in 2000 but he got behind the 911 and the Patriot act and the Department of Homeland Security and a lot of people didn't like that. And when he came up a three time Senate incumbent in 2006, the Dems sent a guy named Ned Lamont to go get him.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Great name.

[Tom]

And ned Lamont beat him 52:48 in the primary. And so here Lieberman, a three time senator and vice presidential candidate in 2000, he was almost VP at the if that very close race had gone the other way. But he said, wait a minute, I believe the people of Connecticut want more. I'm running as Lieberman for Connecticut and I will run as an independent. And when the race ran as independent he got 49%, Lamont got 39, he beat him by 10 points. And so there is a way back. If you've been manipulated and Joe Lieberman showed as an independent, there is a way back. But right now with these endorsements, I don't see a way back for some of these people because Lieberman didn't go negative. He just got caught out by his party because they didn't like where he was standing but he didn't like go up against the guys.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Tom, if I told you right now, give me one fact, give me one fact. Vinny, outside of what we've talked about, Ed Gallrane, what would you say?

[Vinny]

Ed Gallrane? Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Like aside from the fact that you know he's a Navy seal, cuz others have said it, what else can you say about Ed Gallerain? This is him by the way.

[Vinny]

Can I be honest with you? That's the first time I've ever seen his face.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay, so check this out. He's got 45,000 followers on Twitter. This is a Navy Seal. Okay. You know why his hair is like that in that picture?

[Vinny]

Why?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Because he's a farmer. That's. That's a farmer's haircut. Look at the farmer.

[Vinny]

That's I respect.

[Patrick Bet-David]

He's working.

[Vinny]

There's a farm behind him.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Fifth generation farmer. Wow. Fifth generation farmer in Kentucky. Okay. Did multiple tours, four Bronze Stars, Navy seal, captain was a Ranger. When you look at his stuff that he's done, so. But. But this is the point I'm trying to make. Nobody knew who he was except for some of the people out of Tuckey. Okay, and what happens now? He's beating Massey. Go to Massey. Rob, how many followers he's got. Go to Massey to see his influence. Go to his ex account. It's got to be in the millions. How many followers does he have? And by the way, it's not just 1.7. It's a true loyal 1.7 people that follow this guy. Right. And even with that, you can't beat a guy who no one knows about. Ed gallerain with 45,000 followers. And I'm willing to bet a lot of that 45,000 followers came after the President endorsed him. Oh, yeah, why? Because you are not bigger than Trump. And FYI, as much as that bothers you, up until you can get bigger than Trump to make better arguments, you're going to lose. It's very simple. That's how competition works. Doesn't mean don't compete. It doesn't mean sit this one out. It definitely means 2028 election is going to be interesting on who's going to go against what. But it is competition. That's exciting. And we'll see what happened here.

[Adam]

To me, they like Massey, but they love Trump. And that's the problem.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, that's the point. And again, you want to get that last final word too, because without that commentary, the story doesn't tie up. So you tied the.

[Adam]

No. For my contract, I have to give an interruption.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

[Tom]

Thomas Massey. Location, Appalachian.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Let's go to the next one here. Let's go to the next one. This story I want to get to is New Yorkers. I feel bad for New Yorkers. Like every. We want to give you good news. We want to give you good news. The good news is the New York Mets beat the Yankees the last two games. That's the only good news you got. And that, that's if you're a Mets fan and you know how it is. Mets versus Yankees fans, very big difference. They've done studies in that. Yeah, Tom was celebrating. Tom was celebrating in a big way. But let me tell you What Hoka was saying. So you know the whole thing with $5 million properties, it's so bad that Mamdani tried to reach out to Ken Griffin. Ken Griffin didn't even pick up. He's like, I don't even want to talk to you guys. No, you want to dox my fricking place now you want to talk to me? Why don't you reach out to me before doxing where I live and where I have a property at? No, no, no. You know that's not what we want to do. You have this taxing up the second home plan. And Hochul comes out of nowhere and says, no, let's not make it 5 million. Vinnie. Like if you have a house over there, 4.9 million, guess what? No. No second home taxes. You're going to be okay. She drops it from five million to a million. Vinnie, wait. And then she says it's only about 8,000 people that have second homes in New York. Some say it's hundreds of thousands of second homes. Americans have six and a half million second homes in a different place. How many you think is going to be in New York? No, it's not really going to be that big of an impact. It's not so. Ultra wealthy non New York residents who use these high value apartments or homes as secondary properties rather than their primary resident. Projected revenue expected to raise at least a half a billion dollars annually to help close New York City's budget gap tax rates. Properties value between 5 to 15 million will be taxed at 0.8%. Properties between 15 to 25 million will be 1.05. Properties above 25 million will be 1.3. You know what she ends up saying now, Vinny? She wants to lower that from 5 million to 1 million. Tom, why is this such a big deal? And she's getting pushback on this, but why is this such a big deal?

[Tom]

Well, it's a big deal because over the weekend I said it among all of us, I said I believe this was going to happen in exactly March of 2029. Why wait till the election? Just wait a couple years. Do it then, or do it maybe in March of 2027, but get through the election. So I was thinking, you know, that that's what'll happen. I didn't think it was going to happen in four weeks. But guess what? The truth of these, it's true in Seattle. It's true in the initiative that's going to be on the ballot in California in the fall, and it's true in New York. Good news, we're taxing the rich. Bad news, you know, I changed my mind. You're rich, too. And you, and you. Guess what? You never give the Democrats a knob on taxes because they're going to turn it. And the other problem is Hochul has got $4 billion she's sending to New York City as, as support for this. She's sending that to New York. So guess what? She's like, you need to raise this tax because the people of New York, and if you've ever seen an electoral map by county of New York, it will shock you. You would think that it's all, all blue. It's not. The electoral map of Canada, county by county, is shocking everybody that's outside of New York City. And by the way, some of this is old. It was even closer than that in the most recent election. And so the problem is she's got to find money and she's supporting him, Pat. And guess what? Oh, what a surprise.

[Vinny]

Adam.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Thoughts?

[Adam]

Well, look, this comes down to the. Is the million dollar question, right? Because as Tom eloquently put, you know, it's rules for, for the. Not for me. Because once you, you know, say, okay, $5 million. So let's say your property is worth a million or 2 million, you're like, who escape that one? Yeah, yeah, tax those guys. Oh, no, sorry, guys, bad news. We're actually going to lower it to a million. Now all of a sudden, do you know what percentage of New Yorkers have to fear this tax increase? Do you know what percentage of homes in New York are worth over $1 million? They say 60 to 80% of homes in New York City are worth over $1 million. I'll tell you a quick story. I went to go visit a good buddy of mine in New York. He's like, I just bought this great new apartment, come by, check it out. I'm like, okay, it's like little brownstone right near the World Trade Center. I go, okay, cool, It's. He goes. He goes, yeah, I'm on the fifth floor, no elevator. You gotta walk up. Oh, okay, cool. I walk up, he has this tiny little one bedroom studio, hut, shoebox. I go, and he did it up. He did all the bells and whistles. This place looks great. It's amazing.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Or she. This.

[Adam]

He did a buddy of mine.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam]

So I go in, I'm like, I'm looking around the apartment. I go, dude, that's really nice. I like what you did with the place, but it's tiny as hell. I mean, Tiny, I'm taking a piss in the bathroom. I said, what's this worth? He goes, yeah, I got a good deal on it. 1.2. I go, this is a 1.2 million dollar apartment. Keep in mind, this is pre Covid. So I don't even know what it's worth now. The point is this for a shoebox, It's a million dollars. By the way, in the United States, 8 to 10% of homes are worth over $1 million. So it's a complete different anomaly here. But when you start lowering taxes and the threshold is 1 million, that's basically 60 to 80% of New Yorkers that are going to fill a tax.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Let me put it to you this way. When you say percentages, that's, that's, that's right. But if you actually bring it to numbers, which is what he's got right there, 356,000 units are valued over a million dollars in New York City. You know how many over 5 million? 7,000.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

7 or 13,000. So you're. You went from 7 to 13,000 are going to be taxed on the properties to all of a sudden 356,000. So you know, you know what this does. Some people are sitting there, Tom. It makes me think about a couple different things. So if I have a second home in New York City, am I still paying property taxes?

[Tom]

Yes, indeed.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Am I taking advantage of the taxes I'm investing my money into? Let me ask the question one more time. If I, if I'm in Florida, I buy penthouse in New York, New York City, just because when I'm going to the Yankees game, I want to stay out of our penthouse and stay Seattle hotel. Am I paying property taxes for that property as a second home? I am.

[Tom]

Yes, you are.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But am I taking advantage of all the tax services that you're taking my money to create those?

[Tom]

No, no, no, no. Your kids are going to school down here.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Am I? Am I?

[Tom]

They don't have to protect you with a police because you're not there.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Isn't that a good customer?

[Adam]

Yeah, that's like what you best did.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You understand what that let me play

[Adam]

with the speed fee, but not getting any.

[Patrick Bet-David]

This is like equinox gym has 10,000 members, of which 50% never use the gym, never make it nasty, never use the shower, never do any of that stuff. But they're paying the $150 a month. Are those not good customers for Equinox? Can you imagine if Equinox Gym or you run a gym and says those of you that are paying your monthly membership, but you don't take advantage of the gym, we're gonna give you a 10 fee. Use the damn gym. What's wrong with you? Yeah, all that matters is I'm paying in. Yeah, and I'm even paying taxes.

[Tom]

And by the way, you're paying homo.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You need to use the gym more often, Johnny. I'm one of those guys that buys memberships and never goes. Take the money. No, damn it. Come down here. That's what they're. Do you understand how dumb the logic is?

[Tom]

Yep.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So you got a customer that's got a $250 million property that the guy's paying taxes on, and you're bitching about him. Yeah. He's putting a few million dollars of tax revenue into your city. You're bitching about him. Keep your mouth shut.

[Adam]

Yes.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And just take the revenue. Because how many other customers want to buy that$250.50 million property?

[Adam]

Not many.

[Patrick Bet-David]

How many other people want to buy that $250 million penthouse?

[Vinny]

If a handful.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But by the way, you know what? They don't. You know why? The story that 250 million dollar property is it goes too much this way. So if you actually. I don't know if you know the story about it.

[Adam]

The actual property. Ken Griffin's the actual property.

[Patrick Bet-David]

The way they build it. Wind makes it no way.

[Vinny]

So much that no way I would lose my mind.

[Patrick Bet-David]

The way they build the property, apparently.

[Vinny]

No, no.

[Adam]

It's like the leaning visa in New York City.

[Patrick Bet-David]

On average, some buildings. I'm good three feet because of the wind.

[Vinny]

I'm good.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But yes, I mean, you can go verify this. I'm not telling you. It's not like you think buildings are rock. One of the most important things that they figured out in the 60s when they started building high rises, that buildings need to move around three feet. Okay. They need to sway or else they break. So they build. Guys, I don't want to go into architecture.

[Vinny]

I know. This is so good.

[Patrick Bet-David]

This is so funny. But they build these things up to 36 inches. There you go. Design threshold is 36 inches due to extreme weather. So they're saying that one is even more so. Imagine you're like, so, how was dinner? So what are we doing tomorrow? How long can you do this? So people are like, I don't want to buy that property because you don't want to do this all day long. Can you imagine, like the, you know, the fish is kind of going like this, and the aquarium, everything is kind of moving. You put the drink here and. No, no, it's mine. And it goes over here. But so. So there's not that many customers. You're getting free money. I think it's a dumb move. I think this is their way of lowering property value, and it's absolutely double dumb. And they're going to force to leave and come to states like Florida.

[Vinny]

I was just going to ask you this, Pat. At one point, once these type of laws and rules that they're putting in, once more people start leaving, where are they going to get all this money from that they're trying to tax, Tax, tax. Rich, rich, rich, rich, rich. And give to the poor. How? What happens when that happens? When they go, guys, we're trying to get the money. We're not getting it because everybody's leaving and moving to places like Austin and Florida. Then what?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Because it's happening, Vinny. It is so hard to get people back to come to your state.

[Vinny]

Once they're gone, they're gone.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It's so hard to get them back. See, it's different than losing a customer. You go to a restaurant like I used to. You know, this, this. I'll give you a crazy story, okay? I'll give you a crazy story. We go to this local yacht membership place in Fort Lauderdale, okay? When we go to this place, our neighbor says, come take a look at this place. All right? So we go. I think I told you this story, right? Did I tell you this?

[Vinny]

Yeah, a couple.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, yeah. So I go there. So it's me, Jen, the kids. And Jen's trying to find. So we get the tour. This guy named Shane has given us the tour, okay? So I'm like, all right, cool. Here's what it looks. I've been to this event before school put a couple events. I've been there before. It's an interesting. It's a nice place. It's a nice place we can go eat. So I'm like, all right, let me see if they can. My biggest thing is, let me see if the kids are going to like this place or not. So I'm minding my own business. We come, we sit down, we're eating, and then Shane comes. I just want to let you know the membership is going to be $25,000 and 1400 bucks a month. So you do the math. What is that?

[Vinny]

Don't, don't. I don't know.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But you do how much you're paying for a year? Roughly 40k. Yeah, $40,000, give or take with everything. Little over 40k. Okay, well, long story short, we're sitting there, Brooklyn, Dylan and Senna go over there to play by this park in the Fort Lauderdale Yacht Club. They come back, they're a little bit, what's the word? Flustered, uneasy. They're a little bit like. I'm like, what happened? Oh, somebody just came in and screamed at Brooklyn. I said, what? Yeah, what do they say? Get off the tree. Get off the tree. Get off the tree. I said, who said, brooklyn looks a little bit scared. I looked at Dylan, I said, dylan, who said that? Some guy said that. Did he really raise his voice three times at Brooklyn Senna? Did he really raise his. Have you ever heard Dylan and Tico Senna tell you something like this? Never, by the way, this event has never happened in my life. So I'm like, huh? Point at the guy that did this. Our waiters, great. Shane's done a good job to giving us the Tories. He's a, what do you call it? One of these, what is that? CrossFit type of guy. In shape, Good guy, good story. We're talking about my torn acl, all this stuff. They point at the waiter and I'm looking at the waiter, Raniere, some name like that, whatever his name is. So as he's going by, Jennifer at this point is like, here we go.

[Vinny]

She knows it's coming.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I say, hey, can I talk to you when you get a chance? I'll get to you. I gotta drop this off. No problem. He goes over there, drops it off and comes back to me. I said, did you raise your voice at this four year old girl right here? No, I just told her, I just told her respectfully to get off the tree. Dylan and Sina are looking at me, said, I'm gonna ask this one more time. Did you repeat yourself three times? Yeah, I just wanted to make sure she got off the tree because I didn't want her to be on the tree. I said, you're a waiter, you're a bartender, you're telling her she's got to get off the tree? Yes, I was. Respect. I said, so why are you getting so nervous right now? I told him, yeah.

[Adam]

I said, how was he acting?

[Patrick Bet-David]

He's hyperventilating. I said, why? I said, dylan, Senna, did he ever say get off the tree? In a respectful. Raise his voice? Dylan's like, he raised his voice, Senna. He raised his voice. I said, so you're telling me they're lying right now? Your kids are lying. Oh my.

[Vinny]

In front of their.

[Adam]

Accused them of Lying.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Let me get this straight. Your memory. Shane has asked me for $40,000 at this Fort Lauderdale yacht club. It's not like you're asking for $10,000. You want 40 grand and this the kind of service I'm gonna get. I said, this is a problem for me. He leaves, runs off in the middle of the conversation, goes back to the bar. I see he's talking to everybody. Shane finds out Bart, my waiter, that we tipped him 66%. He goes, grabs Shane and a manager comes, guy named Jay comes. Jay's the manager, gm. African American guy. So he's trying to do his customer service, how to win friends and influence people. And then I said, hey, here's what happened. I'm not comfortable with that. You want me to pay 40k? That guy's going to. If he's going to be serving my family and friends that I come here, I don't trust them making drinks for my guys, of course. So then I say, hey, show me where this place is at. So the manager goes and takes the bartender. They're in the corner talking to the bartender. They're kind of giving him a little bit of a questioning to find out what happens. I come around. I said, show me what tree it is, Vinnie. Is two palm trees in the middle, like this. So she's hanging on to the two palm trees like this and standing. What does Brooklyn weigh?

[Adam]

30 pounds?

[Patrick Bet-David]

30 pounds, right. So then I'm about to leave. There's. We have to investigate this. I go, while they're talking to him, I said. I said, shane, can you come here for me? I said, shane, look at that camera, Vinny. The camera's eight feet off the tree. I said, before you. I said, there's another camera over there. So I'm recording this to show him. These are the different cameras that you have. You understand what I'm doing?

[Vinny]

Of course.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I said, I need you to tell me a report on how it's. Because you have it right there. You can see exactly what happened. Great. We leave. We gonna do an investigation. I never hear back from anybody, but guess what? Shane texts me. Shane texts me and he says, My GM's gonna give you a call. It was totally uncalled for, that server at the restaurant to say anything at your daughter, but maybe to be careful. She was just being a kid and playing like kids do. However, I'm going to ask you to not base your decision to become a member on that, as I know you have a great opportunity to create many great memories here. You still haven't addressed the issue. You still want me to pay you $40,000? It's a salesperson. So I said, jay hasn't called me yet. Jay calls me. He says, we looked at the video. I said, what happened? We gave him a pip. We wrote him up. I said, he's still there? Yeah. I said, is this all you want to tell me? Yeah, that's it. No problem. I'm out. You'll never see me again at this place. But can they maybe win me over if Jay is not there, Shane is not there, the other guy's not there. Yeah, maybe in 10 years.

[Vinny]

Yes.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So. Meaning you can win people back when things change. Except for states. You can't win people back with states because when people leave, they have to put their kids in a new school, they get a new house. This is the dumbest idea I've ever heard. With what New York is doing right now. To their regular folks, a million dollars may seem like a lot of money in Arkansas, may seem like a lot of money in South Dakota, may seem like a lot of money in, you know, Idaho. Million dollar home in New York City is nothing like he explained earlier with his girlfriend. So with, you know, his friend, you have stuff like that.

[Adam]

Just friends.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, I know you're just friends. So anyways, we. That was a quick shout out to four out of the yacht club. Jay, Shane, I was kind of disappointed with the way you handled this situation at a place that expect me to pay you $40,000. And we would have become a member with you. We actually look forward to it, but there's no way in the world that guy's going to make drinks for me and my friends when I come over there. Don't trust that guy and don't trust your decision making. So let's move on. Let's go to the next thing. All right, so next story I want to get to here is Trump over the weekend tweets, Trump killed the number two ISIS guy. Out of nowhere, everybody's minding their own business, and Trump puts out one of his tweets. And I was hoping it was going to be a video because we wanted to hear Abu Bakr Akbari die like a dog. We didn't get that, but we got to tweet. So we have to do this with visualization of him doing it that way. Tonight, at my direction, brave American forces and armed forces of Nigeria flawlessly executed a meticulously planned and very complex mission to eliminate the most active terrorists in the world from the battlefield. Abu Bilal Al Minooki second in command. ISIS globally thought he could hide in Africa, but little did he know. We know. We had sources who kept us informed on what he was doing. He was no longer. He will no longer terrorize the people of Africa or help plan operations to target Americans. With his removal, ISIS's global operation is greatly diminished. Thank you to the government of Nigeria for your partnership on this operation. Tom, why is this so important?

[Tom]

Well, here's what they've done. They've demonstrated that you can run, but you can't hide. And what they did here, they just took out a leader. This is not a casual guy. This is not a guy. Vinnie, that was just down there, you know, with some other group of isis, saying, hey, you need a hand this weekend? You know, you're going to be doing some things? No. This is the number two guy in a strategist. And what this demonstrates is that, A, our intelligence knew where he was, B, we cooperated and we worked with Nigerian forces, and C, we came inside and we offed him. We did what needs to be done. I shouldn't say offed him like some mob hit in war. We came in and we terminated him. And so what you have is very simple path. You know, we can get you. And they just got to leadership. Now is other leaders gonna fill in the void? Sure. Are there other ISIS fighters? Were there? Sure. Do we need to find clusters of ISIS fighters? Like the time Donald Rumsfeld was asking, a reporter said, well, there's gonna be hundreds of people that are ISIS that are protesting in the street here. Really? What day and what time? And what are those coordinates?

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Tom]

Where is Rumsfeld saying, where are they gonna be? So I think this is a good thing. There needs to be more of these surgical strikes of these kind of leaders, Pat, because they're the ones wreaking the havoc. And we need to send a message to isis.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Vinny, why is this important?

[Vinny]

It's extremely important to me, Pat. Especially because it's what this guy was in charge of doing to the Christians in Nigeria. I'm so happy that this story is back. The one thing that actually disappointed me is cnn, all these other networks, not a peep. And here, like, everybody knows. I love how people are. You guys, there's nothing Trump could do wrong. I criticize about the war. I don't like how it was going. I criticize about Epstein. I'm furious that it's not coming out. Put all that aside. If you can't acknowledge when he does something great, give me a break. With all the Stuff that's happening with the war, getting off of a plane from China to try to make peace deals, to try to do this, try to do that. Cuba, Venezuela, everything, close the border. With everything that's happening, you can't take a second and go, okay, this guy stopped the number two guy guys in all of ISIS and killed him. The guy that was burning churches, the guys that was wiping out freaking families by the thousands, ok. And nobody's saying anything. So it just, it's frustrating that when somebody does good, you can't give them credit where credit's due. I love this freaking move. And it was silent. And by the way, this is right when he got back from China, so good for him. Another, and by the way the fact that his name was Abu is hilarious.

[Adam]

Well, this is another version of what Trump or what I've called stability through strength. You know, the whole doctrine of peace through strength I think is a little outdated. We're never going to have peace with isis. We're never going to have peace with Al Qaeda. Hey, Al Qaeda, how you doing? You know the top 10 terror groups in the world are all Muslim. You know, I'm sorry to inform you. Isis, Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, Boko Haram, Al Shabaab, the Houthis, but that's terrorizing all the region. Who kills the most Christians though specifically the vast majority of Christians are long no longer the Middle East. I don't know if you've, you've heard that Jews have all have to leave this country now. Christians are leaving this country. The one country that actually did have Christians was Lebanon. We're seeing what's going on there. But who kills the most Christians? A lot of that happens in Africa. So ISIS is number one on the Christian kill leader leaderboard. Number two is Boko Haram, you've heard of them. Number three is Al Shabaab and number four is the Taliban. And then we have Al Qaeda. So a lot of the Christians that are being killed are in these African countries and this is essentially what needs to get done for stability through strength.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, I like it. I like seeing this. By the way, Rob, if you don't mind a correction and if you can add this to the clip of me talking about the Fort Lauderdale Yacht Club. Jennifer just corrected me. It's the Coral Ridge Yacht Club. I want to make sure the right place is getting the, the shout out. This is the place that Shane and Jay allowed that waiter to handle my 4 year old daughter the way that they did screaming at him three different times. I want to make sure Coral Ridge Yacht Club gets the right recognition for the criticism, not for Lauderdale Yacht Club. Those are two different places because Fort Lauderdale is the yacht capital of the world. I have to make sure I get those right. Rob, make sure you cut this and put in the other clip. I want to make sure Coral Ridge gets the proper shout out that they deserve that they got a few weeks ago. I was hoping to be handled in a different way. Okay. All right, let's get to the next store. They're probably going to be like, what the hell is going on here? You allow a place. And you know what? I asked him, I said, listen, if you guys are going to treat four year olds like this, don't even let kids here.

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Say adults only. I'm okay with that.

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But if you're going to allow a place like this to have kids, you better learn how to deal with four year old kids. If you don't know how to deal with a four year old, how the hell are you going to handle a 40 year old? Yeah. So very disappointed. I'm sure you can't tell from my emotions, but. No, you're very stoic. It is what it is. All right, so let's go to the next one while this is going on and all these conversations are being had. Long island strike. 300,000 people are being affected. It's one of the top three stories. If you look up the top three stories. This is one of the top three stories. Hochul is blaming Trump on this because of what's going on. I'll just read it to you. Trump and Hochul clash over Long Island's rail strike impacting 300,000 New Yorkers. And I'll just kind of read it to you and Rob, if you can play this clip. Failed New York State Governor Hochul, a Democrat, just blame me for the Long Island Railroad strike. Do you have the clip on that one as well, Rob? Both of them or. That was more of a tweet.

[Adam]

I think that was a tweet.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I'll look for it when she knows it. So along 3500 Long Island Railroad LIRR workers were sent on went on strike on Saturday after negotiations over a new wage agreement fell through. The LIRR workers first strike in over 30 years and a halt in service is expected to impact over 300,000 commuters. New York's Metropolitan Transit Authority MTA has encountered with a 3% wage increase proposal, citing concerns that further increase could cut into city and state's budget, raise rate fare rates for passengers. Here's Hokul. Go ahead, Rob. You can't reason with the sun.

[Tom]

Trust us, we've tried. This summer, it's time to put that

[Patrick Bet-David]

angry ball of fire on mute. Colombia's Omnishade technology is engineered to protect

[Tom]

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[Patrick Bet-David]

The sun is relentless, but so is our gear. Level up your [e-mail] to spend more time outside and less time slathering on aloe lotion.

[Adam]

You're welcome, Columbia.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Engineered for whatever. This potential strike was needlessly accelerated by reckless, unprecedented action from the Trump administration. Don't forget that.

[Vinny]

Yeah, here she goes.

[Patrick Bet-David]

They thwarted the mediation process, which is what the normal course of business would have been and perhaps brought us to a better place by now. But be it as it may, I must be prepared to respond. And when I became governor, this railroad railroad was struggling. Ridership post pandemic was down and there were calls to right size the service,

[Tom]

which means cut service.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I took a different approach. While our revenues were down, I knew we had to create a better customer experience to get more people to come back on because you're very good at keeping customers the railroad again, you don't lose customers at all to other states. Right. Sizing service.

[Tom]

I invested in the Long Island Railroad.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Well, other systems have cut service. You can pause it right there, Rob. Let's go to Trump's tweet about this because I know she's for three minutes and I honestly, I want the audience to have a good day today. Phil. New York state Governor Kathy, Oklahoma Democrat just blame me for Long island strike when she knows full well that I have nothing to do with it. Never even heard about it until this morning. She just blurted out it's President Trump's fault. No, Kathy, it's your fault. And now looking over the facts, you should have, you should not have allowed this to happen. If you can't solve it, let me know and I'll show you how to properly get things done. This would have been an easy one for Bruce Blakeman. He should be your next governor in New York state would turn around fast, including far less crime and much lower taxes. Kathy, call me if you can't do it. I will get it done. I know all the players, great people and you know he does when he's saying this topic. Why is this such a big story?

[Tom]

It's a big story because you know what? It shows that the Dems can't run a business. And I hate to say it like that. I hate to be so blunt. But this is exactly what's going on. And now the funny thing is the Dems take money from unions and say, oh, just go with us. Go with us. Go with us. Blindly. Go with us. Just throw your support behind us. Bad Trump. Bad Trump. Anti Republican. Anti Republican. Until there's a strike. And during the strike, do you know where they were, Pat? The Metropolitan Transit Authority in New York City agreed to give them a nine and a half percent wage hike. That's what they agreed. You know what they were asking for? They were asking for 10 and a half to 11. Look how close they were. But then the union woke up the next day and said, you know what? We've been looking at the healthcare prices, and we think Instead of a 2% increase in healthcare, we really need that to be a 10% increase in healthcare. And then they're like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I thought we had an agreement over here and we're gonna do some retroactive raises. Nope. Screw you. We want more. So just when the MTA came forward to give that 9.5%, they moved the finish line and they said the union ran over here. Well, guess what, Kathy Hochul, you take union money in your election, go talk to the union boss and make them play ball, work with them. But instead, no, it's Trump's fault. Sorry. That's why this is so big, Pat. The hypocrisy of it is so Stark. And there's 300,000 people a day. And then New York City, you know what? New York City said we're going to have additional bus service today. You know what? The additional bus service offered 12,500 extra riders. You know what? The Delta with lie LIRR shut down 226,000.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Wow.

[Tom]

So really, thank you so much. Hey, we have extra buses for free. There'll be free buses. Extra buses, yeah. For 12,500 people. And you got 226,000 people. And by the way, people were interviewed by CBS New York saying, listen, I can't work from home. I'm a teacher. There's two weeks left in the school year. I simply have to get to the city, to my job.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Adam.

[Adam]

I mean, it's the same thing we always hear when you have no argument. There's two words that you could use in the. In the Democratic Party that will always get you votes.

[Tom]

Blame.

[Adam]

Blame Trump. Do you ever use this random. I just thought of this. You ever watched south park back in the day? They had this song where they go, what should we do?

[Tom]

Blame Canada.

[Adam]

Blame Canada. And they blame Canada and it basically took over. It's like, what's the problem? I don't know. Just blame Canada. The Democratic Party is the blame Canada version of Trump.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Perfect.

[Adam]

All they want to do is blame Trump. Tell me what Trump has to do with the Long Island Railroad with Kathy Hochul and Mamdani and their socialist policies. New York, what does he have to do with it? And then Trump, who is not shy, goes, look at these Democrats. That's what he calls them these days. They're dumb. They're Democrats, quote, unquote. I have nothing to do with it. And in fact, I. I never even heard about it until this morning. So it's like, okay, who's lying? Is Trump lying or is Kathy Hochul lying? I'll let you be the decider right there.

[Vinny]

And you notice how I just said in the previous segment, like, when somebody does something right, give them credit. Can you name something that they're doing right? It seems every single thing that you hear, Pat, from California and New York, nothing is positive. It's promises made and none of them are being kept. I feel bad for the people that are there. Yes, they voted and they thought that they got sold on it. But give me some progress. If your entire message is, hey, all of you guys, we're going to grab the richest people and take all their money and give it to you guys. And then they're leaving, what the hell's the message? What are you standing on? And Tom, this is horrible. I have a lot of family that lives in New York. This is affecting a lot of freaking people. And I'm just. It's just perpetual. It's bad news, bad news, bad news. Give us something positive.

[Tom]

Hey, hey.

[Vinny]

Driving me crazy.

[Adam]

The Yankees are doing good.

[Vinny]

Yeah, but it's still pretty early, everybody.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Not the last two weeks. Hey, guys, I'm sorry.

[Adam]

I tried to give you something positive. The Knicks are going to the Eastern Conference final.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And by the way, the Pistons lost yesterday to Cavs because of Donovan Mitchell playing lights out, which is great. Which will. I know. Listen, I know you guys want us to. Two hours of sport. Thank you. Thank you. And I want to deliver for you, but just be patient. The survey was so funny.

[Vinny]

It was hilarious.

[Patrick Bet-David]

We want all sports is what we want. All right, let me get to the next story. Let me get to the next story. Next story is UK Keir Starmer. Rough weekend. I think it's fair to say this is a rough weekend. For understatement, I'm not talking personal life. I'm talking like, it was a rough weekend for him with what happened. So this is London. All because of one guy. Some call him. He says, I'm a small guy, but he's got a big heart. Tommy Robinson. Look at this, look at this. And they're like, nah, it was only 5,000. Nah, it was only 50,000. No, it was only a hundred thousand. I don't know how many it is, but the way Rob is zooming this out slowly like it's foreplay. He's not going fast to show you. Look, look, look at this. As it gets all the way out. How many people showed up, Rob, can you just zoom out a little bit faster to see where it's at? Look at this. And by the way, look at this, Vinnie.

[Tom]

That's crazy.

[Vinny]

I thought that was his AI.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That's crazy on what happens.

[Adam]

Good for you, uk.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So while that is going on, Tommy's going out talking about what's going on at street. Same exact thing with the United King rally with Tommy Robinson. Is this Keir Starmer responding to it?

[Adam]

Yes, sir.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Go ahead, Rob. Tomorrow's march in London is a reminder of what we're up against. Up against the organizers, including. Including convicted thugs and racists, peddling and division, plain and simple. Their goal is to convince people that Britain's problems are caused by those living alongside them. But that is not the Britain that I know. This is a country built on decency, fairness and respect.

[Adam]

A country that is at its best when people from different backgrounds come together in common purpose.

[Patrick Bet-David]

This is our country with a majority who share those values, a majority who may not always be as loud what's Nick Young. But must always define who we are. So my government will not stand in the way of. Nice video. Nice motivation.

[Vinny]

I love the show. He's looking out the window with notes. They're like, look outside the window. Like you're really focused on now.

[Patrick Bet-David]

While he's doing the heavy clock, can you get to the tweet saying that he's going to be stepping down? I don't know if you saw that or not. There's a. There's a. Not even a tweet. I think there's stories saying that he will be stepping down here anytime. There was even videos of him walking and just walking very fast to get away from all the people. Is that it, Rob? With Trump commenting on Keir Starmer. Yes. Go a little bit higher. What does that say? Let me. Because It's a minute 43, just. Starmer's development plans immediately to step down per daily Mail. Good. The UK needs a leader and here's what the President had to say about it. Go ahead.

[Vinny]

Rob Starmer, the Prime Minister there, is in a lot of trouble. I know you were asked about this.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Well, he's in trouble for two reasons, energy and immigration. He's very bad on energy. He should open up the North Sea. He's got a coal mine and he should open up oil in the North Sea. And he doesn't. They have a tremendous value. You know, they buy their oil, a lot of it, from Norway. Norway gets it from the North Sea. Not as good an area as Scotland and the UK has. So they're paying Norway a fortune for oil that they take out of the North Sea.

[Adam]

Do you think Starmer's going to survive as Prime Minister?

[Patrick Bet-David]

A tough thing. Unless he can straighten out immigration where he's weak. And if he doesn't start drilling, then stop with the windmills all over the place that are causing havoc. They're causing havoc. Most expensive form of energy, they kill the birds, they're unsightly, they're ruining the landscape. If he doesn't stop with the windmills, he's got to do energy got. He's got to open up the North Sea. You know, he's got one of the greatest oil finds anywhere in the world and he's not using. And I tell him that he's not using it. Should he quit? The oil companies call me every day, please, please, we want to go to the North Sea. He doesn't allow it to happen. Should he quit? I don't say that he's. I think he's a nice man, actually, but I mean, I didn't like what he said. We're going to send ships as soon as you're finished with the war. As soon as you. Well, we're sort of finished militarily pretty much. But we, you know, David, we are right there. By the way, what a beautiful analysis. But one thing most people don't know is I think, I think Norway's got $7 trillion of oil reserves. That's their money that they're counting on long term. Can you verify that? Is it a total 7. But what is the dollar to dollar amount like if you do it in dollars? 7 billion 7. What is a dollar reserves? Yeah, there you go. 6.9 billion barrels for a total of $2.2 trillion. So to Norway, long term, they're like, look, all this shit happens, all this stuff. The way we're going to be protected is we got all this oil. So he's Going through them. Tom, why is this such an important story with what's going on in uk?

[Tom]

I'll tell you why it's important, because did you know that the Prime Minister. There's no term limits in the uk, Absolutely no term limits. And there's also no, like, forced election. There is a date. They must have a next election, not later than. I think it's August 15th of 2029, three years from now. So the big thing here is he doesn't have to leave. But generally, what happens in the uk, Pat, is you get together, you say, look, my party lost. We need to make a no coalition government. So the old vote for the new coalition government and you have a new Prime Minister. Well, if the Labour Party has a vote of no confidence, then Starmer has to leave. But technically, Pat, he could just stay there and be stubborn and not call an election and be there until August of 2029. And so that's what's going on. He could voluntarily resign and say, look, my party lost this election. We lost a lot of seats. Clearly, the people of the UK want this. I'm gonna step down the majority party here. We're gonna elect the Prime Minister here. But unless parliament as a whole, Pat votes no confidence, 51% boast confidence. Or his Labor Party says, hey, we can't do this. And those would be patriots that say, hey, look, for the good of the uk, we just lost all these seats. We can't continue. We can't just stubbornly stay here. So I think there's. It's very important. And what Trump said, I think is correct. Whoever the leader of the UK is, Trump just outlined what the people of the UK need. They need energy, they need safety, and they need immigration reform.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Adam, go ahead.

[Adam]

Vinny, I'm just pulling one thing.

[Vinny]

Just. Pat, I mean, like, just go down. The resume of Keir Starmer. Just go down. And I know that you said you wanted to show something with Pat, the amount of people that these guys arrest for just saying things online.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Can you pull up that tweet? Rob, this is important. On what you just brought up. Go to my Twitter account. This. This is something very important. Vinny, I'm going to stay on you, but I just want to show this because. Go a little bit lower. That chart right there. Look at this. Look at this. That is countries with most arrests for online comments. Number one. UK, 12,183. Belarus, 6205. Germany, 3500. China, 1500. UK is more than China. Of course, if you trust China's, data, what they report. Then it's Turkey 500 Russia and we're at 50. I want to know what those 50 were that got arrested here. But UK 12,183 arrests for online comments. Vinny, continue, please.

[Vinny]

And it's so add that to, let's just be honest, the immigration that you have, the purposeful invasion. He wants to call it immigration. The people have had enough. God bless every single person that took to the streets. I think it's a little bit late. I'm so happy that they did it with. One of the main things, Pat, that people were saying was that he let in all these people and then when these same people are raping the women, the children of freaking uk, it's no, no, no, you guys are racist. Don't talk about it as racist. Oh, the Pakistani rape gangs. That's the title of these people. We're not going to proceed to press charges and go after them because we don't want to look racist as a nation.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Really.

[Vinny]

Try saying that to the mother or the father of the daughter that was raped by these Pakistani rape gangs that you let into the freaking country. And then you have people like Tommy Robinson screaming at the rooftops, he's racist. He's racist. You have peers on the show. When he's holding up the Quran, he's like saying, this is the type of stuff that's in the Quran. Put that book down. You're racist.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Enough.

[Vinny]

Enough. Ok? It's gotten to the point and there's only so much that people are going to take that they're going to do it. Good for him. He's not a leader. He's a weak, weak leader with all the freaking consequences, Pat. And I'm happy that he's, he's done. Hopefully. Hopefully they don't choose a guy that's just like him.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And by the way, you know who else was there at Tommy Robinson's rally? Nick Shirley. I love that I saw that Elon Musk jumped on again. It was just back at it again. Adam, thoughts?

[Adam]

Yeah, I was actually just texting with Nick because I wanted to get a comment from him. And I'll tell you what, what, what he said. But Tommy Robinson put this incredible event together. Nate Friedman, who does a lot of street interviews, just like Nick Shirley. We've covered him before. He's in New York. This was my favorite sign. Stop calling people racist when they don't agree with you is getting boring. The racist thing, the fascist thing, Trump's a king thing. It's just getting Boring. We've heard it before. What Keir Starmer said. What I think people are so upset about is, and this is what Nick Shirley had to say is they keep referring to the people to show up to this rally as far right. There's the far right, they're the far right. Here's what Nick Shirley said, and this is essentially what they're saying. He goes, these people are not far right. He's like, I interviewed all types of people. Black, white, men, women. They just want their country back. And there's three basic premises. He said, stop it with the open borders and the immigration. Can we please stop this? Trump talked about that, talked about censorship and free speech. Basically what you just pointed out, right? Just like that. And they talked about the climate change and the global warming and the scam that basically has taken over and not basically doing drill, baby, drill. And where did Trump say does drill? Where in the. In the North Sea, I believe he called it. But at the end of the day, when you're calling the everyday British citizen far right just because they love their country and they want to fly their flag patriotically, it just is getting boring. And the average person I would hope, is looking at this being like, I just want to live in my country and enjoy my heritage and my legacy, and you guys are trying to ruin it. So shout out to everybody and shout out to Tommy for putting this event together.

[Vinny]

We think that.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What do I think about this?

[Vinny]

Yeah, what cares? What, what?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Like, to me, the question is the following. The question is when you don't pay attention to your kids friends and you kind of let them lose and they all of a sudden. I remember this one kid, we were at Wilson Junior High School, and this one guy told this story when I went to school last week, and there was this one guy who comes up and he offers cigarettes to us. Who's this in School? Wilson Junior High School. I'm 13 years old, okay. And one of my good friends was there and he says yes. Then after that it led to alcohol. Then after that it led to weed, which is. So far, that process is very usual. We know a lot of friends that went from cigarettes to alcohol to wheat or alcohol, cigarettes, weed. What comes after weed?

[Vinny]

Cocaine.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Cocaine normally comes after weed. Maybe speed, maybe Special K, maybe lsd. But no, usually coke is right up there as what's next. Right. And what typically comes after coke?

[Vinny]

Sometimes meth and then smoking it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Sometimes meth and then smoking it. But then sometimes you go to the club, you're doing G, you're doing the caps of G. And then you're. You got K and then you got you. Then you get into the pills, then you're in the pill game. Then you got Xanax, then you got Vicodin, then you got all this other stuff and then you're dead. Okay? And if you don't get there early, it's too late, you know? You know what is one of the hardest drugs to get off of? 2, the hardest drugs to get off of? Alcohol. No, to the heart. Alcohol is one of them to get off of. But it's normally pain medication when you're talking about like Vicodin and stuff like that. Because it's like heroin.

[Tom]

Opioid based.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Opioid based. It's hard to get off of it because your body's like begging for it. Give it to me. UK right now is, I don't want to say this point of no return, but they're at a place that you almost need a massive crisis that's already happened to happen for them to not go there. And by the way, Vinny, you know what's crazy as we talk about New York City with Mamdani and what's going on there? What is the previous financial capital of the world before New York City? We've been. New York City has been financial capital of the world for 100 plus years. You know who was prior to that? London. You know for how long? 100 years? Yeah, give or take. Okay. So if we don't pay attention to what's going on there, it's about to happen here. And by the way, say even all these people leave New York State, the billionaires leave and they come here, the millionaires leave and they come to states like Florida, Texas, Tennessee, all that other stuff. But they're still a state. They're one of the 50 states. And it's going to spread. You don't think they're going to say, let's do it to the other city? You don't think behind closed doors they make targets and they say, let's go target them. AOC gave a talk yesterday which was disturbing to me. I'll typically listen to aoc. I'm like, okay, some of socialism, all this stuff I totally get, that's economical. But look at this speech. This is a very weird speech that she gave yesterday.

[Vinny]

Behind the bulletproof glass.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yes, go ahead, Rob.

[Vinny]

What did she say?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Time for the north to pull up to the South.

[Tom]

It is time for New York to

[Patrick Bet-David]

pull up to Alabama. It is time for all of us

[Vinny]

to come to Louisiana.

[Tom]

To Tennessee, to Mississippi.

[Vinny]

And what are you really trying to say?

[Patrick Bet-David]

What they have uncorked with this injustice.

[Tom]

They think they can draw us out of power.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Know the sleeping giant that they just

[Tom]

awakened ends

[Patrick Bet-David]

because it is not a coincidence. And our whole country must understand that.

[Tom]

It was not until voting rights were

[Patrick Bet-David]

ratified in this country that we got the Great Society. Is she reading a teleprompter?

[Vinny]

Doesn't look like have the right to vote is protected.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Our schools get funded when voting rights are. Okay, you can pause it right there.

[Tom]

She's got strategists, she's got coaches, and

[Patrick Bet-David]

she's learning north to pull up to

[Vinny]

the south about civil war.

[Adam]

No, I don't. I don't. I didn't interpret it like that.

[Patrick Bet-David]

To me, a message like that, period, means what it means. Well, what was north and south about?

[Adam]

Yeah, well, that was. I didn't.

[Vinny]

Well, that's.

[Patrick Bet-David]

How do you interpret.

[Vinny]

Yeah, how do you not say. Take it the way that I said? What is she calling.

[Adam]

I'm not endorsing AOC at all. I. It seems to me she's talking about redistricting and gerrymandering and sort of playing the game of politics. Look, what. What AOC and the current Democratic Socialist Party want to do. They want to fundamentally change America. Fundamentally. They don't believe in what the founding fathers believed in. They don't believe in everything that was in the Bill of Rights. Yeah, but they want to fundamentally change everything. They want to use the victim game.

[Vinny]

Not from that message, I don't.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, how do you take.

[Adam]

You're taking it as she wants to do a civil war.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I'm not. I'm not saying saying. She's saying civil war. You just have to be careful with your words. That is a divided division of America on her messaging. No, part of that message to me is a message of. So again, you just have to pay attention. You asked me a question about uk, where it's at. You asked me about London, previous finance. Then it comes to New York. Where is AOC out of?

[Vinny]

What.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What. What borough is she out of?

[Adam]

She's in Brooklyn.

[Patrick Bet-David]

She's in Brooklyn. Okay. New York City. So now her and Mamdani are from where? New York City. What type of noise are they making in the current financial cap of the world? So it's a slippery slope that Americans, I hope, pay attention. By the way, this is a part of why we do what we do here. People ask me. Can I ask you a question? You have all this money in the world. Why do you sell Merch, we have to fund the company. If I fund it based on the money that I have, we run out of money and you need to be a part of it as well. If you support media company, the other guys are making money. I can take sponsorship money and just every other thing is an ad. Then we have to, we want to be able to share what's on our mind because we are concerned about XYZ being the issue long term. This is one of them. The fight's going to be a collective effort of realizing, watch what's going to uk. That's a case study of what's coming here. Watch what's going on with these other kids. Then you're teaching your kids. This could happen to you if you make some bad decisions. Do you remember this Saturday night we went to dinner to drive back?

[Adam]

Yes.

[Vinny]

Amazing.

[Patrick Bet-David]

How intense was that?

[Vinny]

Very. You know, it's intense. When the ride is over and we're still in the car for 20 minutes at the end of the ride, we don't get out of the car.

[Patrick Bet-David]

The messaging conversation.

[Vinny]

Absolutely.

[Patrick Bet-David]

How many doors has happened when we're coming back with the boys?

[Vinny]

A few.

[Patrick Bet-David]

A few of them, yes. This was a different one though.

[Vinny]

This was a very, very good one because now they're at a different stage of their life now. It's like 14, you know, I mean like 12 years. Like it's getting there.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Did he talk about it yesterday or. No. When you guys were out, did it come up at all or.

[Vinny]

No, no, no, it was, it was other conversations but not like.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But to me it's just realizing that if you're not, look, I'm a, I'm a future looks bright guy, but only the paranoid survive. Is a mentality you got to have. Americans got to be a little bit more paranoid right now. You got to be a little bit less tolerant of BS in your life. When you just kind of sit around say that's not a big deal, it's going to be okay. Let me continue with this as we're going to the next story. Over the weekend, Iran hits UAE's only sole nuclear power plant that they have. Iran. It's so bad while this happened that the President, I believe was golfing in Virginia at one of his golf courses. Rob, if I'm not mistaken, you can correct me on this. He's at Virginia golfing. This takes place. He has a 30 minute call with Netanyahu. There's a bunch of calls taking place. And I even believe today there's a meeting that they're going to have in the Situation Room. And tomorrow something could happen with the whole thing. Rob, is this the clip about what happened at the nuclear plant? Is this the one?

[Adam]

Yes, it's a report of the phone call between Netanyahu and Trump regarding that.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Go forward, go forward.

[Vinny]

It's true to say that the air

[Patrick Bet-David]

of expectancy has been cranked up a couple of notches here in Israel today.

[Vinny]

As you mentioned, President Trump talking with

[Patrick Bet-David]

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu earlier this evening.

[Vinny]

They reportedly talked for about 30 minutes. And then shortly after that, President Trump taking to social media to tell Iran that, yep, time is running out.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Time is of the essence, he said. But with a stalemate still in place. Netanyahu.

[Vinny]

Netanyahu holding a security cabinet meeting tonight with top military leaders and advisers to discuss the next move. All of this coming as reports claim the US And Israel are making intense

[Patrick Bet-David]

preparations for renewed attacks against Iran.

[Vinny]

The Iranian foreign minister, meantime, says another

[Patrick Bet-David]

attack makes no sense if the US

[Vinny]

And Israeli military have already, as they

[Patrick Bet-David]

claim, destroyed the country's nuclear facilities.

[Vinny]

Listen to this.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It's almost like he's egging him on. These contradictory statements truly indicate the depth of America's confusion regarding their objectives in this war, by the way. So Iranian state TV also has been

[Vinny]

showing video today of government supporters, some

[Patrick Bet-David]

receiving defense trading inside of mosques, weapons and all. Yeah, because that's a normal thing that happens when I go to church on Sundays.

[Tom]

Exactly.

[Patrick Bet-David]

AK47 grenade tossing. Did you have to acquire. That's Catholic church.

[Vinny]

Catholic Church, yeah. Umberto was there.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Tom]

So remember, don't do step seven indoors. Wait till you're outside.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So when you. When you see this, Tom. When you see this, Tom, where are you at with something taking place for Iran? The clock is ticking and they better get moving fast or there won't be anything left of them. Time is of the essence. I think these tweets, honestly, are no longer having any impact. These tweets here, and you know what they said yesterday? It's as if they're watching a podcast. You know what they said yesterday? They said Trump's day to get this thing done is June 14th. Did you hear about this?

[Adam]

That's his birthday, isn't it?

[Vinny]

That's what you said.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Exactly. They have to get it done before his birthday and the World Cup. We know that's when he has to get it done.

[Adam]

Weird.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So it's because you better believe that. I mean, we know of each other, like the community. We're in communication with them for, you know. Well, we're not Ready to talk to you right now. We're not ready to do podcasts right now, but what's the reality of it is they're kind of getting aware of how much time Trump has, and they're using that against them. So what's my point? My point is, if you're going to do something, stop dragging it out to the World Cup. If you're gonna do it, do it now. If you're not gonna do it, they're not gonna negotiate with you. And the president, when he went to China, you know what he did say? He says, we don't need China's help. I don't know if you saw that or not. Tom says we don't need China's help. If he wants to help, great, but we don't need China's help. Xi asked him, allegedly. Rob, fact check me on this. Xi asked him, allegedly. Let me know if there's anything we can help you out with on Iran's end.

[Vinny]

Oh, really?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Let me know if there's anything we can help you out with on Iran's end. Cuz we would like the Hormuz to open up. It's better for the world. Xi's words. Xi's word. Saying something like that. So, Tom, why is this so important? Can this escalate? Do you think these tweets of saying this is the last chance you're going to get is getting old? Yeah, there you go. Reports that Xi told offered help, and during the conflict, Trump said she told him, if I can be of help, I would like to help. However, the reporting suggested she's offering diplomatic assistance. Discussions about reopening the Strait of Hormuz go ahead. Tomorrow.

[Tom]

So, you know, there's only so many times that you can make a tweet like this. It does appear that the Iranians are just trying to wait this out now. And we hear stories about. I mean, a week ago we had. There is. We're on one piece of paper and we have 14 items, and then one side rejects seven, the other side rejects eight. And we didn't get anywhere. So right now. And then we heard over the weekend that Trump said that China pledged not to sell weapons to Iran. Well, you got to be careful with those words. Are they not selling finished weapons? But they're still shipping tons of sodium piclorate, which is the salt. It's a salt product which is the basis for rocket fuel that they use in the rockets. Are they still doing that? So I don't know, but I don't see these things. I don't feel tension anymore, Pat. And also we were watching the markets, the, the financial markets in London and the US the footsie. All of them were moving on these comments. Now, you don't see the markets moving as volatilely. Remember, you would have one comment and the market would go womb. And there's that one day we had oil all the way back down to. Help me if I'm wrong, I think it was all the way back down to like 92. So where's oil right now? 105 or something like that. Right this morning, as I saw. I'll tell you right now, 105.24. West Texas Intermediate was the open.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And West Texas ramp, that's the West Texas.

[Tom]

No, I'm showing. You're right, I'm showing. That's crude futures. That's a Nymex. But West Texas US oil is still at 106.

[Patrick Bet-David]

105.88.

[Tom]

Yep. So there you go.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It is a bump, though, Tom. 106 is a bump. You don't think that's a bump? Yeah. Yeah.

[Tom]

So that's. It's up today and you know it's up.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Did you see the clip? Did you see the clip where the President's being asked about. Yeah, they showed me the new ask in the first sentence. I said, no, I don't want to read the rest. And you know, I'm not at first word. What was the first words? I don't need to tell you. I just wasn't happy about it. Say, well, you're. They said you're not happy about the 20 years. And he says, no, I'll do with the 20 years. But I don't like the first words, what they said. So they are going back and forth at what pace? I don't know. I just know that he has. You know, when you're negotiating, Vinny, you have a. You have a number in your mind where for him. Do you think the president has a day? You think he's a calendar type of guy? I think he is. Do you think he has a day that says if by this day they know not, they do nothing, we're attacking. Do you think he has a day?

[Vinny]

I think so.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I think he has a day. I think he has a day or an event. And I even think he knows where to attack. Attack and what to attack. Remember Carrick Island? They hit a few different things, but they didn't hit what they could have hit to hurt everybody.

[Tom]

They stopped.

[Patrick Bet-David]

They haven't hit bridges. They haven't been going after like, you know, they hit one bridge in Karach. If you remember that one karach bridge that they built, the newest catage bridge that they hit. So they've hit a few different spots but he's hold off a little bit. Is this it about the first sentence, Rob? Yes, go for it. Chronic migraine 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting four hours or more can make me feel like a spectator in my own life. Botox Onobotulinum toxin a prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine.

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[Patrick Bet-David]

That was a very historic couple of days, I think. Million days, sir.

[Adam]

I know there'll be a lot of questions around the China trip, but just for first on Iran.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Have you rejected the latest proposal from Iran or where does that stand? Well, I looked at it and if I don't like the first sentence I just throw it away. What was the first sentence? An unacceptable sentence because they fully agreed no nuclear and if they have any nuclear of any form, I don't read the rest. 20 years. That was a very historical. So Adam, your thoughts on this.

[Adam]

Well, you made a reference earlier. Now, there's a book that I think that the IRGC and the Ayatollahs could read, and that's called how to Win Friends and Influence People, because they're losing it one by one by one. You started the story saying, who did Iran attack? Now the uae.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Uae. So they're attacking their neighbors sole nuclear plant, a drone.

[Adam]

So listen, I respectfully, I agree with you on one thing and I disagree with you on one thing. I fully agree with you. Trump has a date of when he's gonna get in and get out by. I don't think it's June 14th. I have it a little bit closer to August, cuz that's three months before midterms. August, September, October. That's kind of my number. But there is a number, however, if you just take Trump at his word, what is the one thing that he's been getting criticism of this past week? The Democrats were saying this on Meet the Press. They, Trump said, yeah, I don't care, I don't care about anything other than Iran will not have nuclear. Oh, what about Americans and gas prices and the economy? Yeah, it's not my main concern. Iran will not have nuclear. Have you seen this reaction?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yes.

[Adam]

So let's just take Trump at his word. He's not messing around with the nuclear. So at the end of the day, I mean, here's what Rubio had to say in terms of waiting Trump out. So if you want to take Rubio at his word, he goes number one, unequivocally, we're doing the world a favor with what we're doing. They honestly believe that. So let's take them at their word. But then Rubio said, we're not going to let domestic politics get in the way and have us pressure us to make a bad deal on Iran or not, AKA you may have to pay a little bit more at the pump. Right now, we're not going to put a bad deal together from domestic issues and gas prices. So he also said to China, yeah, we don't, we're not asking for China's help at all here because China is basically feeling the pressure on the Strait of Hormuz more than anybody. But at the end of the day, Pat, you mentioned this as well. I think the, the, the trump card at the end of the day, if Iran does not come to the table and negotiate, they're going to blow up Carg Island. They have that card and they're basically

[Patrick Bet-David]

saying, I wouldn't, I would take over Carg island, whatever.

[Adam]

Whatever they end up doing up.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Car, guy, island, you take it over, you go and just say, we're going to take this thing over. Even better if the Gulf states support you. And this is the way you do it. You know how you do it? You go in there and you say, hey, Gulf States, let's do partnership. 50. 50. I'll put a military base there. I take 50% of revenue. I share the rest with you guys. Anybody comes through $2 million, but we share it. Gulf states are gonna be like, okay, great. And then if Iran wants to participate, guess what, you can come in as well. But I'm building a military base. I'm taking control of Carg Island. This won't be the first time or the second time we've done this. Every time there's a war, the average person who is not following that story learns about history and you learn about different areas. You know, you learn about, oh, my God. You know, Panama Canal. Why is it so important? Oh, shoot, I got it. Oh, my God. China. Why is it so important? Kind of the AC and all the stuff that we wrote. Oh, my God. Why is Taiwan so important? Well, all these chips, Nvidia, tsmc, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company. That's. Oh, my God. Why is Malacca straight? Why is a straight. Why is. You're learning. You're learning about what's going on. We're learning how important this thing is.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And we'll see where that goes. So, Tom, did you give your thoughts on this? You already did, right? You gave your thoughts on this. Let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get to is climate change, folks. I don't know if you've noticed. It's deeply concerning for folks like Al Gore, AOC and Greta Thunberg that the climate changes, it goes up, it goes. That gets colder, gets warmer. But something bad happened to the climate change enthusiast this weekend. Trump celebrates UN's climate committee moves away from the most extreme global warning scenario. President Trump took a victory lap on Saturday with this tweet. Good riddance. After 15 years of Democrats promising that climate change is going to destroy the planet, the United nations top climate committee just admitted that its projections, its own projections of RCP 8 and a half, were wrong, wrong, wrong. For far too long, climate activism has been used by Democrats to scare Americans, push horrible energy policies and fund billions into the bogus research programs. Unlike the Democrats, who use climate alarmism nonsense to push their Green New scam, my administration will always be based on truth, science and facts. The United nations backed Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change had quietly adjusted its modeling framework a 4 to 5 degrees Celsius warming. By 2100 last month, the framework had on underpine a my rate of other analysis predicting terrifying consequences for greenhouse gas omissions. And they are getting this wrong. Tom, how big of a deal is this?

[Tom]

This is huge. But this is really kind of like. It's kind of like Covid. It's like, all right, all the evidence now points to the fact that the virus was in a lab in Wuhan. The virus was released from the lab in Wuhan either, you know, deliberately or accidentally. And then it spread around the world thanks to air travel and migration of people. And that's what happened. And a bunch of people died. So we all know this, we all know that to be true. And we could debate over how much did Fauci know, when did he know? When he didn't, he was involved and he knew a hell of a lot. We can all debate that, but we now know it's true. Similarly, Pat, we've been debating this for a while on climate change. And you know, I tweeted a week ago, it was, you know, you know, we're all dead. So I know that no one can be reading this tweet. And I tweeted the, the note about that by this date in the future, we were all supposed to be dead because of climate change, and the oceans flooded everything and we're gone. I said, being that we're all dead, no one's going to be reading this tweet. And so now this is very significant. Now they're actually having to pull back. But what you remember, climate change never had anything to do with climate. This is what climate change had to do with. Had to do with control, globalization and wealth redistribution. And that's why they're like, well, wait a minute, I have an idea. Vinny, to pay for your sins. You know, the Catholic Church used to have indulgence. You can pay for your sins. I have an idea. Why don't we do this? Carbon credits. You can pay for your pollution. That'll make the world not as warm because you'll give him money in terms of carbon credits because you're doing too much. He'll give you money. And look, we're making money for you. Wait a minute. But if it's doing that because they're polluting anyway, then they're just moving money around. Has nothing to do with the climate change. Oh, we'll get back to you. But it was always Control. And it was wealth redistribution and it was phobia, and it was globalism. And now it's out in the ocean in like. It's out there like the ocean so big. You can't ignore it. And there it is in the light of day. Pat, they. They can't. They can't deny it. All of their dates have come and gone. Things have happened and it's all been disproven. So now it's. It's just like Covid.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Pat.

[Tom]

No, you're. You're at a point where you can't run from it anymore, Vinnie.

[Vinny]

So wait, you mean to Thomas? Just so I'm. Because it's, you know, it's kind of early. When we got in here, we got. I woke up at 5 o' clock in the morning. Are you trying to tell me that this is another Democrat lie, fraud, scam? Do not tell me that's what you're talking about.

[Tom]

It's bigger than that. It's global liberals. It's global liberals.

[Vinny]

Well, Tom, they kept pushing this, by the way. It's the fear. You call the. Pat. The fear porn. The doomsday model. It's gonna end.

[Tom]

You were taught climate change in school. Yeah, it's called seasons.

[Vinny]

Yeah, yeah, the four summers here. Oh, my God. The climate change. But I think it's. And I'm happy that, you know, the president brought it up. I mean, politicians to activists to Greta Thunberg. Think about it. Greta Thunberg, the one that was crying. They grabbed that girl. They put her as a poster child, literally. And she's like, ecosystems are collapsing and people emotionally get attached. And then what happened to her? She knows that she was completely exposed and she jumps from that to a completely different cause. She's on a flotilla, you know, getting captured by.

[Tom]

I'm chained myself to a truck stopped in the middle of a highway.

[Vinny]

Yeah, exactly. Nobody can, like. No, it's, it's, it's. They're, they're. They're hoping that people's emotions get people attached to it. But, Tom, you see it. How many times you see it? AOC complaining about the world ending like you said. Bernie Sanders saying that the world's gonna end. Al Gore and Pat, if you can. If we can. You remember Dan Pena, who was. It was asked by an Australian woman, she's like, what's the global warming? And everything's gonna come. Can we play this? You can play this at a little

[Adam]

bit fast speed when our ocean level rises.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Thank you for asking that question. I have the answer, though. I have the answer. Thank you for the question. Yeah, okay.

[Adam]

For the first time on Earth, we're changing the gas.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Now you're full of shit. Sit down. I'm going to answer you. If that were really true, would you believe. And let's just for a moment say that it is true. That means that the best scenario vis a vis global warming is about 10ft raising water. That's the best scenario. Over the next 40, 50 years, that's the best scenario. If the water on the planet is going to rise up 10ft, that means the southern part of the United States is gone, England is gone, most of Europe is gone. And I can go, most of Central America is gone. Let's just take Florida for example, which is one of the fastest growing condominium, beachfront condominiums on the planet. In the prospectus, when you invest there should be in the footnotes. If global warming is for real and

[Adam]

water rises 10ft, this investment you made is all.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Not one single investment perspective written this century has alluded to global warming.

[Tom]

Not one motherfucker.

[Patrick Bet-David]

If it were really true, the banks wouldn't invest, the banks wouldn't finance, not one motherfucking condominium. And I'm jealous.

[Vinny]

He's jealous, because algorithm. So my question to you, Pat, property owners, is that true in the perspectives, they would say don't give Patrick bet David X amount of money because we know that it's going to flood in X amount of.

[Tom]

I don't worry about the prospectuses, Pat, and I know I only worry about the underwriting and the insurance carriers because they don't lose money.

[Vinny]

So that's what I'm, they're.

[Tom]

The house, the house doesn't lose.

[Vinny]

So, so, so what he's saying is, is true in that if that was the case, all this, all this fear porn, then why would a bank give you money if they knew in 10 years and 20 years you're not going to have a house and it's all going to be underwater.

[Tom]

Adam was talking about south park earlier. He made a reference to it. And south park also went after Al Gore. Do you remember? Man, bear, pig.

[Adam]

Of course.

[Tom]

Half man, half bear, half pig. Man, bear, pig is coming. And the little kids came up to him and said, you're just making all this crap up so that everybody can get really scared and then give you a bunch of money. You are full of crap. That's what these, you know, the little third graders come up to him and this was Al Gore trying to scare the world about manbear pig. And it was so true. You've created this thing that was just complete bs.

[Vinny]

Well, you named it. And the fact that they say the climate solution always involves government more power while Americans have to pay more for gas carbon credits.

[Tom]

Give money to those people and you're fine.

[Vinny]

And I'm so happy. And again, you said these bad ideas. At some point, it gets flushed out, people wake up and they go, okay, you're lying. And speaking of Massey. Massey even exposed John Kerry in front of Congress, which was awesome. Awesome. It's a. It's a scam. It's a scam, Adam.

[Adam]

Well, Trump was right again. You know, the whole famous quote. Trump is right about everything. Here's another one that he can put in a feather in his cap that I remember when he did the UN speech and I said, sort of controversy. I said that might have been the most important speech that he's ever given.

[Vinny]

Was it the UN speech?

[Adam]

He basically highlighted three things that are all manifesting this is happening. He said the. The.

[Vinny]

The.

[Adam]

The climate change is a scam.

[Vinny]

Yep.

[Adam]

And they just verified it based on this report.

[Vinny]

Yep.

[Adam]

Number two, the. You guys, the uk, France, eu, the open border policy. You're ruining your country.

[Tom]

Yep.

[Vinny]

Two for two.

[Adam]

Okay, two for two. And the energy drill, baby, Drill oil is going to run the world three for three. So here's my advice to everyone out there, and I'm just going to simplify this. You could follow Trump as an archetype, or you could follow Greta Thunberg.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Tuber.

[Adam]

Greta Thunberg, much like Trump, has been right about everything. She hasn't been right about anything. Nothing this girl has said or ever done has been right. Nothing that she's advocated has been right. And then she was sort of like put on a pedestal when she's 12 years old because she's like, I care about the climate, the globe. Everyone's like, oh, my God, Greta.

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Adam]

But did. Did, by the way, she's 23. Now we get to. Did they want to talk about the fact that she's, like, weird and autistic and she doesn't know what she's talking about? It's a socialist and a globalist and she's a free Palestine. I mean, that's what she is.

[Patrick Bet-David]

This guy.

[Adam]

No, that's. That's Greta, sir. That's Greta, sir. Yeah, that's her. That's her.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Are you joking?

[Vinny]

Yeah, that's Greta.

[Adam]

So here's my suggestion, everybody. Since she's been wrong on everything, seriously, this is. This is it.

[Vinny]

This is a girl with bangs. She Bangs. She.

[Adam]

That's her now. By the way, her name is.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I seriously thought it was a guy like.

[Adam]

No, no, no, that's her. Rob, I sent you something. Do you remember there was a movie

[Patrick Bet-David]

back in the day for someone to

[Adam]

cut your hair called Kingpin with Woody Harrelson?

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Adam]

And they, they gave up. They made a quote. What's like, he said, you got Munson.

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Adam]

He's like, what? What do you mean? He's like, yeah, when something doesn't go your way, you get screwed. You get Munson.

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Adam]

So I want to advocate to all my friends out there, even the Gen Z folk that fell for this scam. From now on, when something just goes blatantly not your way. You got Thunberg.

[Vinny]

Thunberg.

[Adam]

You got Thunberg.

[Tom]

She's from Sweden.

[Adam]

Yeah, she got Munson.

[Tom]

I'm looking at this website, Swedish bikini models. It's not there.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I don't want to. I'm not going to come to everybody on this one, but I just want to show this here. That's very interesting because you have to. You have to pay very close attention to what kids are doing. 11 years ago, 10 years ago, when Snapchat came out, I was in Hawaii sitting next to a girl named Phoebe, who was Kehindi's daughter. She's now a model. She's doing great things. She told me about Snapchat and I kept asking, what are kids following in school? Tell me about what social media kids are doing, all this other stuff. Eric Schmidt is giving a speech, commencement speech. And I don't know if I've heard this type of boob. When he starts praising AI, it's worse than what the other lady did last week. Go ahead, Rob.

[Tom]

Interesting.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Is this Arizona State, you will help shape artificial intelligence. We do not know.

[Adam]

We do not know precise contours.

[Patrick Bet-David]

If you'd let me make this point, please.

[Vinny]

No.

[Tom]

No.

[Vinny]

Oh my God, that's horrible.

[Patrick Bet-David]

If you don't care about science, that's okay. Cuz AI is going to touch everything else as well.

[Vinny]

Whatever path you choose, read the room, buddy.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Work is done.

[Adam]

You can now assemble a team of

[Patrick Bet-David]

AI agents to help you with the parts that you could never accomplish on your own.

[Adam]

When someone offers you a seat on

[Patrick Bet-David]

the right rocket ship, you do not

[Tom]

ask which seat you just get on.

[Patrick Bet-David]

The rocket ship is here.

[Vinny]

Do you think he is.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Let me give you some advice.

[Vinny]

Absolutely not.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I mean, you have to note this is one of the worst.

[Vinny]

Oh my God. I couldn't.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I've heard and by the Way I just went online right now, I said, what are the top 10 worst university commencement speeches that got the most boos ever? It showed to me that Betsy DeVos was one of them at Bethune Cookman University. And this is in 2017.

[Vinny]

Okay.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So you have to know this is right after Trump.

[Vinny]

Okay.

[Tom]

When that was down here.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, that was down here. Then you have another one that was Harrison Butler. I don't remember him getting booed, actually. I actually remember him getting a lot of support. Then it was Gloria Caulfield and University of Central Florida. She and this the. By the way, two out of the top four most booze are in the last week. Gloria Caulfield was the one that we showed last week again for AI. Then it goes to Jerry Seinfeld, 2024, dozens of students walked up protesting the pro Israel stand. That was that Claire Shipman column. You have to pay attention to what upsets them. Right. Her speech was overrun by chance booze. And again, pro Palestinian Booze. Jonathan Hyde, 2026, known for criticizing Gen Z and smartphone culture, booed him on stage. Organize protests before the ceremony. Accuse NYU of platforming someone hostile to students. Condoleezza Rice, 2014, about the Iraq war. Mike Pence had one that people walked out in an RFK regarding to. Regarding vaccines. So. So, Tom, what are kids worried about when they're talking about. The way I interpret it is they're trying to say, you're taking our jobs away, you're taking our futures away. Rob, do you have to clip of what Anthropic said AI is going to do to unemployment? Anthropic CEO, you won't have it here while I'm going to. Tom, I'll look for and I'll send it to you. I didn't post it in my notes. So, Tom, why is this becoming a pattern of kids booing the topic of AI?

[Tom]

Two things are happening with people that are graduating right now. Number one, they're trying to find jobs and the economy is tightening on the hiring. There are some segments that are still doing well, but there's tightening. There's also layoffs happening at Meta. A lot of layoffs are going to be clarified this week. Meta is going to clarify who's in, who's out. Vinny. So if you're at Meta right now, you're waiting for that, and these kids are seeing that and they're like, well, where the hell am I going to go work now? Arizona State is not like Stanford. God bless to me. This is University of Arizona. The University of Arizona is not like Stanford. God bless University of Arizona. They are ranked the number 127th school in America and the number 63 public school. So, Pat, this is a decidedly mid tier school. But why is Eric Schmidt there, of all the places he could go? Speak. I'll tell you why. Because they are number one and number two in mis. University of Arizona is ranked number one or number two in the United States among public colleges are number one and run national universities are number two. So this is a college, Pat, that has a lot of kids in that audience that are in MIS that are going to be graduating. Hey, we're going to hear Eric Schmidt speak. Hey, that's pretty cool. We've got a great program here and somehow the Board of Regents has got Eric Schmidt to come speak at graduation. But what's on these kids mind is jobs. And what they're hearing is, is that AI is going to take your jobs. And they're hearing about a lot of layoffs going on in tech, Pat. And so this guy comes up, starts talking about AI, they immediately boo it. He doesn't really read the room. You know, I'd love to ask Eric this. Maybe you could sit down with us and talk. Because it's like, what did you hear and what were you sensing when you turned around and said, well, you know, that's the future and this is science? Because they were really going after him pretty hard. But that's what I think, Pat. I think these kids have heard a lot and they're nervous and they're out there trying to find jobs. And here comes this guy talking about the very thing that they're nervous about.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I think you have to be aware of it. And I think it's different than political. This is not Palestine, Free Palestine. This is not the Iraq, Iran war, the Iraq war with Condoleezza Rice. This is their careers, this is their money. And here's what Anthropic Seal had to say. Go ahead, Rob. About what AI is going to do with unemployment. Watch this, folks. View is the signature of this technology

[Adam]

is it's going to take us to

[Patrick Bet-David]

a world where we have very high GDP growth and potentially also very high unemployment and inequality.

[Adam]

Now that's not a combination we've almost

[Patrick Bet-David]

ever seen before, right? You think of it as high GDP growth.

[Vinny]

That's lots of stuff to do, lots

[Patrick Bet-David]

of jobs for everyone. It's always been like that in the past. We've never had a technology that's this disruptive.

[Adam]

So the idea that we could have

[Patrick Bet-David]

5 or 10% GDP growth, but also,

[Adam]

you know, 10% unemployment.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It's not logically inconsistent at all. It's just never happened that way before. And I'm really quite, you know, for those both reasons, excited and worried. If I take an example, something like AI coding, you know, the latest model we Release, Claude Opus 4.5. I have some engineers, some engineering leads within Anthropic, who have basically said to me, I don't write any code anymore. I just let Opus do the work and I edit it. We just released a new thing called. Pause this real quick, Rob, last Friday, you know who we just hired? Our most recent engineer, probably the most qualified engineer we've ever hired. Would you agree with that?

[Tom]

Absolutely.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay. So I'm sitting in his office last Friday before the weekend comes, and we're launching Higher Metrics, a calibration software that's going to be revolutionary. It's going to be great. And he's showing me. So we're testing one part of it, and he says, okay, they find a mistake in it. I said, so what are you going to do? He says, this is all I do. He took the entire code, the answer, put it in Claude, and he gave him a prompt, Go fix this to make it cleaner. One minute and 59 seconds later, he fixed it, took it, code went in there. This is a coder. He says, as good as good of a coder as guys like this are, you're not going to be as fast as what that's going to be doing for you. So that, that does now the job of five, ten engineers like this, where it's going. Some are saying it does a job of two or three. Some are saying, does the job of five or ten. It's just going to get smarter, of course. So these kids are sitting there saying, hey, man, I know you guys are celebrating this. So the argument becomes on one end, it's like, yeah, we have to beat China. Okay, do we beat China at the cost of all our kids losing jobs? I don't know. And that's the argument that's got to be made. And that's what. When last week, Tucker had Kevin o' Leary on, and they're going back and forth. That's a fair question to be asking. Do you do it at the cost of kids not having jobs? Kids are telling you they're worried about it. You know, you have to pay attention, at least hear them out and see, when the anthropic CEO says unemployment could go to 10, NGBB could go high, it's something to be paying attention to. Let Me get to this next story, and then we'll wrap up. Rob, if you want to pull up. I wish we could go into the Neymar store. Let me get into the Rogue and Theo von. So Theovon is on Rogan's podcast and he talks about the SSRIs. I think this is it where he's talking about. He's been on them for almost 20 years. Rob, if you want to play this clip, go forward. It's all just a cat and mouse game. People are like, we'll like the Democrats next time. It's like. But it's all the same shit has been happening forever. They haven't been helping anybody forever.

[Adam]

They're letting fucking politicians slurp on kids. All of our fucking money goes to Israel, and they're using it to fucking genocide.

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, no, Rob, this is not it. This is when he says. Says he's been taking medication since the breakup. Rob, this clip has nothing to do with the. Did you find that one or.

[Tom]

No, I couldn't.

[Adam]

That's the clip that it kept showing

[Tom]

me as to what started the conversation

[Adam]

about his mental health.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But does he say there about him being on medication for.

[Vinny]

No, no. Joe just says something like, hey, man. Like he makes a comment on, like, how he.

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, that's not the clip. That's not the clip.

[Vinny]

I know.

[Patrick Bet-David]

To me, this is it. Go ahead.

[Adam]

Is to get off of antidepressants completely, man.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I want to feel how I'm supposed

[Adam]

to feel so I can have thoughts and actions that.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That, like, make me feel connected to the world. That shit makes you feel dead, man.

[Adam]

So why did you take them in the first place?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Because I was in a bad relationship 20 years ago, and I was having a tough day at school, and they fucking put. They gave them to me, and then I never got off. Really? Because when you get off, it's that. I think we talked about this once. It's hard. Yeah.

[Vinny]

It makes you more depressed and more fucked up, and you're all imbalanced and you, you know, probably are addicted to them.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. Like, one of my goals. So this. And by the way, this is a lot of people that are on this. Then. Then Joe talks about it on one of the clips. That clip right there, if you can go to it. Yeah, I think this is the one. Go forward.

[Vinny]

Vaughn's going through the exact same thing. And last time he was on the podcast, he was explaining it to me.

[Tom]

It freaks me out because I know

[Patrick Bet-David]

Theo has had conversations before, like, even publicly. He had a Netflix taping and it didn't go well.

[Vinny]

It was like they actually never. They shelved it. They never used it. And, you know, there was all these stories from people that were there saying he bombed. I think he just had a kind of a breakdown.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And then he was talking to the

[Vinny]

crowd and there's a video of it. We said, you know, the people were shaking. Hey, we still love you. Thank you. Look, I'm just. I'm trying not to take my own life. That's what I'm trying to do right now. Yeah. And like, you hear stuff like that and you just go like, oh, Jesus Christ.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I've known too many people that I

[Vinny]

didn't think were going to kill themselves and then did. And then he goes down these spirals where he starts talking about world events and freaking out. I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ. Like, I got to help this dude.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And so I send him things about

[Vinny]

people getting off of them. And apparently there's some doctors that specialize

[Patrick Bet-David]

in getting people off of them. But Joe is. You can pause it right there. Joe is talking about with Theo's going through. Then Theo responds back to this. And here's what Theo has to say. You just had it a minute ago, Rob, that you had it up. Yeah. On the one with Theo reacting and he says, this is mostly cap. Sad to see this kind of stuff. I'm doing great. I'm a human being, which is rocky. Right. But I'm doing fine things. Vinny, how do you. How do you. This story went viral and, you know, we were kind of debating whether to cover it or not, but if it wouldn't get these kind of eyeballs, we wouldn't have talked about it. Why do you think this story did this? Well, and what's your perspective on what Theo is saying to Joe's feedback?

[Vinny]

Well, because. Well, first and foremost, they're actually friends. They're not just podcasters that just go on a podcast and then they're done. Joe actually cares about Theo and his well being. And I know Joe knows people in Los Angeles that have had committed suicide. Brody Stevens, a hilarious, quirky comedian that we all knew committed suicide. Nobody even really knew. That's him right there. How crazy is it? He was in hangover too. Remember, he's standing on top of the. He was doing security. Run the. The. That's. That's Brody, God rest his soul. And I think Joe genuinely packed high

[Patrick Bet-David]

rise on top of the helicopter shows up. You're like, that's Brody. That's Brody.

[Vinny]

That's Brody. And. And this is Joe sees the signs and I'm, and I get broken and I get Theo's point and he's like, hey, listen, I'm okay. I'm fine. That's what sometimes people say, Pat, that are going through it, you know, I mean, that are dealing with that. And I mean, if you've been on it since you were 20 years, Pat, because of one breakup and doctors gave it to you and prescribed it to you and you've been stuck on it and now you're just trying to wean off of it. I don't think, I don't think it's going to be good. I mean, public, I mean, Joe's on a podcast and he's talking about his friend. I think people, you know, blew it up a lot more than what it is. But Joe, Pat, you know Joe, we don't. He gives a damn about Theo. And by the way, that, that quick rant that we saw, I don't think that's necessarily him going on the rant and just see, because once you see things, Pat, there's no unseeing. And if he feels like that about the government and he sees something about Gaza, that's him. I don't think it has a direct correlation, but the standup one was right. He did allegedly not do well on his stand up for his taping, which, Pat, you know, that's a huge deal. They're spending all this money. That's your. You have one or two takes, like either like an early two shows that day or one show that day and the next. I'm pretty sure it was two in one day. And when you say something like, yeah, I'm just trying not to kill myself, you have to take it serious from someone that is on the ssri. So that's my, that's my assessment.

[Adam]

Adam, I'm rooting for you. Theo Vaughn, I've seen slowly but surely sort of the disintegration of your comedy career. I think we could all admit one of the funniest, most talented guys that we've seen. But I'm actually with Rogan on this and I'll tell you why. Do you think Rogan is doing this because he wants to have beef with Theo? Do you think he's doing this because he wants to do something for clicks, or is he doing this because he's genuinely concerned about, genuinely gives a damn? And I'll give you an example of where this might hit home. About a week ago, I told you a story about a friend of mine that was having trouble and I told you that. He also lost his. His brother. And right after the podcast. And if you see this. Hi, guys. His father watches the show. His father, who lost his son and now is concerned about his other son, watches the show. I didn't know. He watches the show. And he ends up. My friend ends up sending me the clip that the father sent him, yada, yada, yada. Why I brought it up because I'm concerned about my friend. And I've tried every way through Sunday to get this through your head. And just like Theo Vaughn, who said, I'm fine, man. I'm good. I'm just going through it. Don't tell me what to do, bro. I'm good. Life's tough. I'm okay. That's what my friend always does. Hey, man, I'm good, bro. Today's a new day. Yeah, but it's like yesterday, you. You said the same thing. You did it. I think Rogan loves his friend so much that he's probably tried to help him off camera so much that it's not working that he says, I'm sorry, bro, I got to put this on camera because I'm concerned about you. That's my opinion. Because I don't think Rogan would do this intentionally to try to harm his friend. I think he wants to help his friend. Last point. I've been to a Theo Vaughn show recently. In the same month, I went to two comedy specials. I went to Marcelo's, which is Marcelo Hernandez, biggest star in SNL right now, number one on Netflix. It was incredible. I. I went to actually two of of his seven shows. He did it and did it and did it and did it. And the last show they used for Netflix, and I went to Theo Vaughn's. To say that I was unimpressed would be an understatement. And I'm thinking, Theo Vaughn, this is gonna be great. So I think at the end of the day, we're rooting for Theo. He's a lovable guy. I think he should completely stay out of geopolitical political affairs. He has no clue what he's talking about there, and that upsets him. He's probably an empath. He feels these things. I'm rooting for the guy. Hopefully he gets off drugs. And these SSRIs are no joke. Some follow the noise. Bloomberg follows the money. Because behind every headline is a bottom

[Patrick Bet-David]

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[Adam]

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[Patrick Bet-David]

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[Adam]

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[Patrick Bet-David]

Subscribe [e-mail] yeah. So you know what happens when you lose someone and you knew that the person was dealing with something? You don't tell anybody. The regret you get from losing someone that you knew what they were dealing with and you're privately or like. I don't want to expose his private life to the public. I don't want him to do it. I don't know if in this case it's close to that, because it's not like he said it. Joe didn't say it. Theo said it. I've been taking these pills for 20 years, since the breakup. Then he said it on a show. I just want to not take my life. Those two things get people to think. Those are not comments that people make regularly on. On any given day. But when you do lose somebody and you know you're by yourself, you're in the car, you're driving back, you get the news, you've already gone to the funeral, you've already done all that stuff, and you're like, what could I have done? That's a weight you don't want to carry. You just don't want to carry, Right? We just had a friend of ours that died two weeks ago. One of my guys calls me. This guy was. Kept saying he's having chest pains, chest pains, chest pains. He never goes to the doctor, never gets anything checked out, has a heart attack, he dies. Tom, you know who this guy is? And he was actually one of our partners. And I'll tell you about it afterwards. And I talked to the friend. He's in tears, emotional. We're talking on a Sunday. I said. He says, pat, we've been telling him, go to the doctor. Go to the doctor, Go to the doctor. He didn't go right. Okay, Tom. First time he and I got together at 29 years old, 28 years old, Tom's like, you got to do an executive testing every single. Every other year. I said, at this age, yeah, you should go do it every year. So I started doing it, you know, and if you're. If you're above 40, you haven't done a CAT scan on your heart just to kind of see where your arteries are at. And I know, Vinnie, you just got yours done, and just to kind of get an idea, you kind of got to go get it done, Right.

[Vinny]

Scary as it is, you have to do it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Is.

[Tom]

Yeah. Know your plaque score, know your PSA

[Patrick Bet-David]

score, all of that. So Joe is the Leader of the pack. For a lot of these comedians, he just is. He's the leader of the pack.

[Vinny]

Yep.

[Patrick Bet-David]

As the leader of the pack, every once in a while you have to say certain things that if people don't speak the language of a leader, they're not going to know what he's doing. He is looking out. And sometimes you will say things in public because in private it's not been working. So you say it in public to hope. Do you, you know you're going to get all the, you know, the daggers that are going to come for you.

[Vinny]

Oh, well.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But that's risk you're willing to take as a leader because you're the leader of the pack. So to me, I've seen him do this with Brandon Shop. I've seen him do this with a few of his other friends. And every time you're like, this guy's coming from a place, I think Joe's a, a, a. What do you call it? A kingmaker. He's a. He's a guy that's built a lot of people's careers. He set them up a lot. He's given them the platform.

[Vinny]

Johnny Carson of our era, literally, I

[Patrick Bet-David]

think, I think he's got the moral authority to give this feedback, but also understand for Theo to not like it. I think Theo's funny as hell. I've not been to the comedy part. To me, it's different. To me, Marcelo is a stand up comedian, but it's different for podcast. I don't know if Marcelo's skill would translate into a podcast. I don't know. I do know Theo's proven that he's a great podcaster and he'll sit with anybody and he's able to get the eyeballs to help people out. All right, so that's that part. I hope he figures it out. Last thing I do want to say, with World cup being around the corner, Neymar, man, Neymar's playing Santos yesterday. They lose 3 0. I thought he played okay. I thought he made some passes. I couldn't even believe the types of passes he's making. And there was massive controversy. Rob, if you want to find a video of that where he's sitting on the sidelines because he's getting stretched. He's getting a little bit of treatment from, you know, the, the team doctors. And then all of a sudden they're making a substitution and the referees, substitutes. Neymar. Neymar is asked to leave the game. It's like, wait a minute, they're not calling for my number. They're calling for the other guys number. He says, no, they're substituting you. He runs up and goes and pulls the ticket to show. This is it, Rob. He pulls the ticket to show TV because he knew people weren't gonna believe him. Show the ticket, Rob. He says, look, it's not my number, it's the other guy. So the ref. And then guess what they do to him. They give him a yellow card.

[Vinny]

Why? They take him out.

[Patrick Bet-David]

The referee substituted 10. It was supposed to be a different guy. Neymar supposed to go back in the game. And so this was a massive, massive controversy as this goes. He ends up getting a yellow card. He's showing. I'm not supposed to be the one going out. Okay. I've never seen anything like this before. You know why this is important when those World cup start, Rob? Four weeks, three weeks, five weeks. Guess who. When does it start? Start first game. That's 1930. It doesn't start in 1930. When does it start? In 2026. World cup started June 11th. So the first game starts in three weeks.

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Guess who Brazilian young fans want to see play?

[Adam]

Neymar.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Neymar. And he's had some injuries in the last few years and he's been making a comeback. Neymar is worried this could be the reason why the coach and the country doesn't pick him to go into Brazil. He needs as much playing time to show that he's back and he's healthy because the coach doesn't want to risk giving that spot to somebody that is not in 100 condition. This was his chance to show up that I'm ready to go back into. So if he doesn't, a lot of fans that, that, that referee right there may need to go meet with AIG nationwide, some of the biggest life insurance companies because a lot of people will not be happy about it. I hope he gets in there because you want to see the best players play without. It's just not an exciting playoff when the best players are injured. So we are rooting for Neymar, Brazilian guy to get up there and hopefully he's able to perform for the country. I do know this room will be busy while the World cup starts because all the games are going to be here and we're missing employees, we can't find them. I have a feeling a lot of people will be hiding here and that, that. Jake, just so you know, I'm watching you, Jake. I know what you're going to do here. I think I'm probably going to be here. Yeah. But anyways, gang, with that being said, hot cakes and hot takes. We had a few mobsters here last week.

[Adam]

Oh, yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And one of them was Michael Francis, the man. Michael Francis was here and did a podcast on Hotcakes with hot takes with Vinnie. And Vinnie showed me a clip at the end from Goodfellas. Not good fellas.

[Vinny]

Good fellas. Yes.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And. And the line, funny how? Funny how.

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And. And Michael asks Vinnie to set aside the script because he goes.

[Vinny]

He goes. Because I had it. Because normally at the end of the podcast, I do a scene with every guest. He's like. I don't. He's like, just go, I'll do it. I remember he memorized the whole scene.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Couldn't believe.

[Vinny]

It's amazing.

[Patrick Bet-David]

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