Michigan Church Shooting, Trump's Portland Takeover & Eric Adams Drops Out | PBD Podcast | Ep. 657

Summary

PBD Podcast Episode 657 Summary

Date: September 29, 2025
Title: Michigan Church Shooting, Trump's Portland Takeover & Eric Adams Drops Out

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Main Theme

Episode 657 of the PBD Podcast, hosted by Patrick Bet-David, brings together the Home Team for a fast-paced, unfiltered discussion on America’s pressing news: violence and persecution facing Christians, political shake-ups (including Eric Adams stepping down as NYC mayor), Trump’s controversial interventions (in Portland and with declassification initiatives), and a debate on the shifting social fabric of the US—from birthrates to urban decay. The team matches real talk on current events with moments of humor and deep reflection, maintaining the podcast’s energetic and direct tone.

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Key Segments & Insights

1. Major Announcements and Manect Partnership

[00:10 – 11:00]

• Patrick shares a major company milestone: Tony Robbins is officially announced as the biggest strategic partner/investor in Manect after a year of negotiations.

• Tony Robbins on network power:

  • “Proximity is power. If you get in the environment with people that are the best in the world, you’re one or two people away from the deal that you want to make.” – Tony Robbins [07:49]
  • Robbins is donating his fees on Manect, stressing empowerment.

• Patrick on Manect’s value:

  • “Manect is 94% response rate. LinkedIn is around 10%.” [08:18]
  • The team notes explosive Manect growth and criticizes LinkedIn for missing their networking opportunity.

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2. Trump & National Issues: From Portland to Immigration

[11:01 – 21:15]

• Trump orders military into Portland:

  • Cites chaos: “This is not Afghanistan. Feet away, they routinely call police… the cops did not come. Residents on their own.” [11:07]
  • Clip features Portland resident and Trump’s statement:
    • “They just burned the place down… These are professional agitators. These are bad people and they’re paid a lot of money by rich people.” – Trump [13:36]

• Panel critiques Portland’s failed progressive policies:

  • “You voted for these policies. You chose these policies. These are the leaders you chose.” – Patrick [12:44]
  • Staff shortages/staffing crisis on Portland’s police, declining population, migration out.

• Broader context of urban breakdown:

  • Adam: “Everyone I talk to from the PNW says, ‘Dude, there’s nothing going on here at this point. It’s all progressive woke ideology.’…There needs to be many Trumps all over the country…to bring it back to the middle.” [19:06]
  • Patrick: “If you don’t want it, change the way you vote or else this will be the case for many, many years to come.” [20:41]

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3. Michigan Church Shooting & Christian Persecution

[21:15 – 38:42]

• Tragic incident at Michigan church:

  • Recap: Shooter rams vehicle, opens fire, and sets blaze—one dead, nine injured. Shooter killed by police.
  • Police chief’s account: “Drove his vehicle through the front doors…exited…firing rounds… ten gunshot victims.” [23:46]
  • Shooter was ex-Marine; panel investigates inconsistent online narratives around his political alignment.

• Panel denounces Christian persecution:

  • Vinny: “Christians are under attack and we are the most persecuted religion on the planet…if this were a synagogue, temple, or mosque, there’d be outrage. But for us, nobody cares.” [25:55]
  • Tom: “Christians are the number one persecuted [group] globally.” [27:47]
  • Adam: “Political violence or religious violence has no place in America… Churches need to do better at playing defense.” [33:34]
  • Panel debates church security, the need for armed protection, and freedom-vs-safety trade-offs in the US.

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4. Global Christian Persecution Spotlight: Nigeria

[43:26 – 48:18]

• Startling statistics:
  • 7,000 Christians killed in Nigeria this year; 94% of Nigerian Catholics still attend Mass amid violence. [44:43]
• Media invisibility:
  • Vinny: “Mainstream media doesn’t give a damn… No news, no Jews.” [44:58]
  • Bill Maher is cited for highlighting the issue: “They are attempting to wipe out the Christian population. Where are the kids protesting this?” – Bill Maher [45:30]
• Panel reflects on faith under persecution:
  • Patrick: “That is faith in action. That is faith over fear… They are also inspiring people to be missionaries to reach out and do it.” [48:18]
  • Adam: “In Syria, Boko Haram… All these groups have in common jihadist ideology.” [51:27]

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5. Birth Rates, Social Trends, and Cultural Critique

[64:42 – 77:23]

• US birthrates drop to all-time low:

  • CDC: National fertility rate at 1.59 (below replacement).
  • Analysis: Rising housing costs only partially to blame; panel identifies modern feminism and delayed family formation as core issues.

• Adam: “Modern feminist movement has ruined a lot of women… If you’re a woman in your 20s, go talk to a 50-year-old woman who never had kids but wanted to.” [66:37]

• Tom: “Progressive policies destroyed marriage and have infiltrated the minds of kids.” [69:09]

• Advice on values & alignment:

  • Patrick: “The times I was most at peace were when my values and the way I lived aligned. Alignment is the key to happiness.” [76:53]
  • Panel debates faith, hypocrisy, personal growth, and responsibility.

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6. NYC Politics: Eric Adams Steps Down

[81:07 – 89:58]

• Eric Adams ends mayoral campaign:
  • “The constant media speculation…has undermined my ability to raise funds for a serious campaign. I always put you before me. Always.” – Eric Adams [81:09]
• Panel unpacks polling and the radicalization of NYC:
  • Adams says Gen Z voters will support socialist “Mamdani.” “The radicalization is real… This is just like Russia 100 years ago when the Bolshevik army took down the Tsar.” – Adam [87:16]
  • Discussion on flaws in polling, division in NYC’s electorate, and rising public incivility.
  • Patrick: “Life’s going to happen to you… When life really happens, some people wake up and some people double down on the victimhood stuff.” [91:19]

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7. Dearborn, Islam, and American Identity

[96:00 – 104:16]

• Dearborn’s changing demographics:
  • Arab-American police chief touts 45% Arab American police force.
  • Panel questions cultural assimilation, the potential for radicalization, and America’s unique freedoms.
• Former Islamist’s perspective:
  • “When I was an extremist Islamist fundamentalist, I would only vote left… I know the left have no values or principles to begin with… The future of America has to be Muslim.” [98:46]
• Double standards and American exceptionalism:
  • Panel: “Can a Christian or Jew run for office in a Muslim country?” (No.)
  • “If you love America, you’re welcome. If you’re plotting against, that’s the problem.”

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8. Global Affairs: UN, Israel, & Condemnation Hypocrisy

[111:22 – 122:16]

• UN walkout as Netanyahu addresses Egypt:
  • “Many who wage war on Israel today will be gone tomorrow. Brave peacemakers will take their place.” – Netanyahu [114:56]
• Adam exposes UN’s double standards:
  • “North Korea – 10; China – 0; Israel – 173; Hamas – 0. The entire world, according to UN, isn’t as bad as Israel. That’s hypocrisy.” [115:39]

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9. Other News Stories (Quick Hits):

• Trump working to secure US mineral independence through strategic government stakes.

  • Forbes: US government negotiating for a stake in Lithium Americas in exchange for a $2.2B loan. [123:18]
  • Tom: “We need lithium for 800k EVs a year… Not being hog-tied by China is good, but government ownership concerns me.” [126:29]

• Trump to declassify Amelia Earhart records:

  • Panel jokes about its relevance and calls it a distraction from more pressing issues, like the assassination of Charlie Kirk. [107:31]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Tony Robbins: “If you get in the environment with people that are the best in the world, you’re one or two people away from the deal that you want to make.” [07:49]
• Vinny: “Christians are under attack and we are the most persecuted religion on the planet.” [25:55]
• Patrick: “If you don’t want [progressive chaos], change the way you vote or else this will be the case for many, many years to come.” [20:41]
• Bill Maher (via panel): “They are systematically killing the Christians in Nigeria. This is so much more of a genocide attempt than what is going on in Gaza.” [45:10]
• Adam: “Modern feminist movement has ruined a lot of women… Go talk to a 50-year-old woman who never had kids but wanted to.” [66:37]
• Patrick: “The times I was most at peace were when my values… matched the way I live.” [76:53]
• Eric Adams (stepping down): “I always put you before me. Always.” [81:18]
• Former Islamist extremist: “I would only vote left. I saw them as very stupid. I would fear the conservatives… The future of America has to be Muslim.” [98:46]
• Netanyahu: “The long-suffering Iranian people will regain their freedom. They will make Iran great again.” [114:56]
• Adam on UN hypocrisy: “The entire world… does not equal what’s going on in Israel. That’s the problem. Absolutely absurd on its face.” [116:52]

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Timestamps – Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment / Content | |----------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:10-11:00 | Manect & Tony Robbins partnership, app growth | | 11:01-21:15 | Trump & Portland, urban decay, policing crisis | | 21:15-38:42 | Michigan church shooting, Christian persecution, safety debate | | 43:26-48:18 | Christian persecution in Nigeria, faith over fear, media critique | | 64:42-77:23 | Falling birthrates, modern feminism, cultural breakdown | | 81:07-89:58 | Eric Adams drops out, NYC’s radicalization, political polling | | 96:00-104:16 | Dearborn, Islamic influence, double standards, American values | | 111:22-122:16 | UN, Israel, global condemnation data, Netanyahu’s speech | | 123:18-128:28 | Trump, rare earth minerals, US gov stakes, strategic business | | 107:31-111:15 | Amelia Earhart files, distraction narratives, Kirk assassination |

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Memorable & Viral Moments

• Emotional reaction to video of Nigerian Christian massacre: [44:05-47:19]
• Bill Maher controversy/provocation clip: [44:58-45:44]
• Tony Robbins “Proximity is power” mini-lecture: [07:23-08:18]
• Panel’s comic riff on Amelia Earhart as 'shiny object' distraction: [107:31-110:27]
• Dearborn police chief’s Arab-American pride speech & panel's unpacking: [96:00-104:16]

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Final Thoughts

This episode brings together urgent debates about American cities, global faith persecution, shifting social norms, and the daily realities revealed between news cycles. The panel’s interplay highlights generational divides, the difficulty of finding personal and societal alignment, and what resilience looks like—whether in America’s heartland, Nigeria, or the hallowed halls of the UN.
This episode is a must-listen for its raw honesty around political and cultural ruptures, and for moments of inspiration about faith, values, and the need for community in uncertain times.

Transcript

[A]

Did you ever think you were making.

[B]

Adam?

[A]

What's your point?

[B]

The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever saw. It's right here. You are a one of one. Okay, gang, hope you had a good weekend. We've had to create a nine step process for Adam to say go to the bathroom. We have to like escort him out, bring him back. It's a sit down, grab a seat, put the mic on. And to all the people that are supporting the cause for us to get a listicle set up for Adam, we are thankful for you. You've changed our lives in a major way. But we have a massive announcement to make today about Manek. So stay tuned. It's a big announcement that took almost a year to get done, but we finally got it settled and it's exciting. This past weekend I was at Mar a Lago doing a documentary.

[C]

That was awesome, Pat.

[B]

You know what was awesome about it is the fact that Benny Johnson just flat out came out and said the fact that he paid for 2 million subscribers.

[D]

Can't believe that he paid out there.

[B]

He flat out said he paid with fart coin. We'll talk about it. And he promoted Manect. It was a great concept of what he was doing. It was fantastic. When you see things like that, that happen, that people are just honest about it. So let me go through a couple different stories that we have here. So Trump, out of everything that's going on, gotta love this guy. He wants to declassify the Amelia Earhart records. And Vinnie's ecstatic. So he's got so many things I want to talk about. President Trump posts cartoon images depicting him firing Fed Chief Jerome Powell. And then you have Trump to meet with top congressional leaders Monday on shutdown, as well as the admin reports. Two million illegal aliens out of the US in the first eight months. But those two million illegal aliens, when you hear about it, no.

[D]

What?

[B]

It just made sense. What Benny got those 2 million subscribers. So the Trump's administration reports 2 million illegal aliens left. But they're not watching.

[D]

That's what it is.

[B]

That's awesome, buddy. With fart coin. You paid for it. What a fantastic guy. You know, Lithium Americans lithium America share surge 90% as Trump request stake Trump says he asked Somalia president. See, this is the part that people don't give him enough credit. Trump is so noble. People forget you tell me you've met more of a noble man. Look what he does here. Honestly, I want you to read this. This is called nobility at the highest level. Go so you got all of these different problems you're dealing with.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Think about it. You tell me, you know, a president as noble as President Trump, that said he asked the Somalian president if he would like to take Ilhan Omar back.

[A]

With all the stuff he's busy with, he finds time.

[B]

You are that busy with everything you have going on, and you still are noble enough to say, can we send. I don't care what anybody says about him. That may be one of the most noble things he's done in 2025.

[C]

Leader of Somalia have to say about her return.

[B]

They said no. They said no, we don't want him.

[C]

How did they not want.

[B]

All right, it's really crowded.

[A]

We're kind of busy that day.

[B]

Voters in major US City new capitalism only slightly more favorably than socialism. Fox News poll finds. And then Democratic Party hits historic low favorability. A new national poll which is obviously devastating for a lot of people. One person dead and nine injured and shooting and fire at Michigan Church. Out of nowhere, you hear a story like that. Devastating. It was a. I think it was a Mormon church, if I'm not mistaken.

[D]

Correct.

[B]

We're going to get into the fact. Howard Rubin, ex New York City financier with ties to George Soros, arrested for allegedly sex trafficking women to sex. In my reading correctly. Dungeon. Oh, yeah. House.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

So New York Post. Wow. I mean, that's some stuff right there.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Netanyahu faces Walcat at UN After Abbas receives applause. Russia is helping China prepare for Taiwan invasion. Mar Bill Maher media ignore persecution of Christians in Nigeria because Jews aren't involved. Seven thousand Christians have been killed in Nigeria this year. Group says. Unbelievable.

[D]

It's bad.

[B]

Yeah. The video. I saw video of a guy saying, all my family members here at this house were killed. I have relatives in that house for kids. This is immediate family. These are not friends. This is blood. Those guys were killed. Living in that kind of a setting just because you're a Christian going through it. US Birth rate plummets and to all time low as housing prices continue to rise. And this Coldplay thing, we didn't get into it last week. I think it's very, very important story for us to get into. Tom was like, can we just cover it? Husband of HR executive Coldplay Kiss Cam debacle was actually at the same concert with a date. So at least, you know, at least it's not as bad as people think it is. Vinnie. Yeah, she's there with the CEO and he's there with somebody nice. And they were her Husband was home alone and lonely. That's right. Michigan church on fire after shooting leaves multiple people hurt. Arrest made after boater opened fires on Southport waterfront bar killing three, injuring five. Eric Adams steps down by the way and ends reelection bid for New York City mayor. And Tom as because he's so connected. He got a text from folks in a polling connected community telling him even with Eric Adams dropping out, what could happen. This is why I love the fact that Tom's so connected in the community. Man, just there's so many benefits to it. Trump shares AI generated video promoting med bed conspiracy theory. And then what to make of Sinclair's Jimmy Kimmel live decision. Amid the show, 70% of the rating drop. And last but not least, Dearborn's chief of police Hamdullah video steers outrage as mosque prayer calls in Michigan face scrutiny. Tolerance has been weaponized which will cover that. I know you got some stuff that you want to say about that. Let me give you one major announcement, gang. That what just happened right now, it's very big for us. Some of you guys. I mean, this has been a record breaking month in the history of the company with Manack massive. I've never gotten this many Manects. Rob is talking about the amount of Manex is getting. But there's one massive announcement that we've been working on. The first strategic partner that became the biggest shareholder outside of us in Manecht. And it's a great story. I don't want you to watch the whole five minute clip. We'll post it on Social afterwards. I just want you to watch the first minute on how exciting this is. There's so many big things happening behind closed doors with Manek. We're hiring machine learning engineers left and right and we're hiring right now. If you're looking at the scene. I want to be part of Manec. I want to be part of E.T. we're aggressively hiring, but this is our latest strategic partner with Manek. That just happened last Friday. We shot the video. The announcement internally was finalized two weeks ago. Go ahead, Rob. I have a big announcement to make to you today. Let me tell you what it is for Manec. Manec today, September, the biggest month the company's ever had in the history. But the announcement is very simple. We've been working for one year. I have a very special guy sitting next to me today who is officially the biggest strategic partner and investor in Minec. And that's none other than Tony Robbins.

[E]

How you doing, brother?

[B]

Excited about this partnership.

[E]

Thanks for coming by. Yes, of Course, I'm excited, too. I mean, if you're watching, I think one of the most important principles of success in business that's certainly shaped my life is proximity is power. The first multibillionaire I met, he's saying, tell me your goals, Tell me your dreams. And I told him all about him, and he says, tony, if you want to do that, you got to know a lot of these certain people. He goes, how much time do you spend with those people? I said, almost never. He goes, brother, what made me a billionaire is proximity is power. If you get in the environment with people that are the best in the world, you're one or two people away from the deal that you want to make. But if you're trying to do something, you don't know anybody, you can forget it. And what I love about this is you're democratizing it. You make it so we get access to people. If you want LinkedIn, it's really nice, but most people are not going to respond. You know, maybe 10% of the people respond if they're a player. They don't have time and energy. But in my case, I'm doing this, and I'm just donating the money that's received. I just want to empower people and help people and go on this journey with you because I know what's coming. I don't think you're announcing everything.

[B]

No, not yet. They don't know everything that's coming. You can pause it right there. We'll post a video all over social afterwards. Guys, the last week, the amount of downloads with the app right now, it's unbelievable. Messages, calls, all of it. And everybody online said, oh, my God, you know, do these people charge this much? And do those people. Is Pat $48,000 an hour? I'm actually not $40,000 an hour for a keynote. It's 350 to $500,000 per hour that people pay. Gladly that we do. However, on my neck, if you want access, it's that much. FYI, 25 years ago, if you wanted to book President Trump to speak for one hour, you know how much it was 25 years ago? $1 million. And guess what? He was worth it. If you have access to people like this now, if you're watching this right now, you're saying, man, I want to be able to talk to. Can I get a message back from Ray Lewis for 75 bucks? Yes. Can I message Terrence Howard, the actor? Yes. Can I message some basketball players and talk to them? Yes. Can I message some business People and find out how to raise money. Yes. Can I talk to some guys like Tony Robbins? Yes. That access of is available. You can go out there and try to cold email somebody. Less than 1% chance they respond. Instagram X tweet. Less than 5% chance. LinkedIn's around 10%. Manect is 94% response rate. If you haven't yet used the app, you can download the app and start connecting today. And we have so many more big announcements that's coming and I think LinkedIn missed the opportunity. There's a massive business community that's looking for a place to network with each other. That's LinkedIn is becoming that. For now, I'm excited, but there's a lot of good things that are going on behind closed doors. But we just wanted to announce to all of you guys, Tony Robbins is officially the strategic partner with Manect. More announcements coming soon. I'm excited about it anyways. All right, let's go into the next news. And by the way, if you want to Manect, Tom, Vinnie or Adam, you can connect them now. Now as well. Vinnie's been very busy lately. Manecting calls. A lot of different things that's going on, but you can connect them directly. All right, let's get into the story. Rob, the story I wanted to get into is Portland first. Okay, so if you want to pull up a clip. Trump says he is ordering troops to Portland. Escalating domestic use of military. This is a Wall Street Journal story, by the way. Things in Portland are absolutely mind boggling. The local citizens are begging, saying, can you please come? These are some people that didn't vote for Trump. These are some people that don't like Trump. They may have not voted. They wanted Kamala, but they're like, listen, enough is enough. This is getting out of control. Rob, do you want to play this clip just to kind of give a glimpse to people what's going on over.

[A]

There.

[D]

Night after night? This is the scene. This is port side, the ice facility.

[B]

This is not a third world country. This is not Afghanistan.

[D]

Just feet away. They routinely call police about the noise and crime. They've cornered two women out here. They need help.

[B]

Police and the cops.

[D]

But the cops did not come. Residents on their own, turn that down. It's midnight. We the people need like, you voted for Kamala. Like a guillotine. You voted for this End. With residents getting assaulted. First a bullhorn, then a fist. No arrest was made despite the injuries. On this night in late June, federal police used tear gas and flashbangs. Again, no Portland police in sight. It came out later in court that one officer told another, if it were not ice, we could assist directly. Julie Parish sued the city to force police to enforce local laws.

[F]

This is a full on abdication of police duty in a four block radius that impacts some of the most vulnerable Oregonians that we have. Now they've said, meh, we're just going to let violent riots do this for 80 seconds.

[B]

Why do you think that is?

[F]

And we don't care.

[D]

Portland police responded. We take these concerns seriously. At the same time, we are committed to protecting individuals rights to express themselves peacefully.

[A]

The Portland approach is pathetic, it's childish. And if you enable people to behave the way the protesters have and wreck the neighborhood for everyone else, they will come back and wreck it the next night.

[D]

The protest chaos, which began with riots aimed at social justice in 2020 has severely damaged Portland's reputation.

[B]

It's now ranked by the none of that right there. By the way, weren't you guys the same people that were saying defund the police?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Weren't you guys the same people that wanted that chassity and Trump sucks and you know we want him out. No kinks, kinks. You know, we want, we want everything to be free. And now you're complaining. These are your policies. You voted for these policies. You chose these policies. These are the leaders you chose that are okay with this, that are managing these policies the way that they are. President Trump said that he was directing the Pentagon to send troops to Portland to protect federal facilities, escalating his push to deploy the military in the US Cities.

[A]

Trump.

[B]

Trump said in a post on Truth Social on Saturday that he was ordering Defense Secretary Pete Hexa to use the military to protect Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities which he said were under siege from attack by Antifa, a loose network of anti fascist protesters that Trump recently called a terror group. I'm also authorizing full force if necessary and I think Trump said something about it in a press conference. Rob, if you want to play that.

[G]

Clip, when you go out to Portland and you see what's happening in Portland, this is like nobody's ever seen anything like it every night and this has gone on for years. They just burned the place down. And you know the shop owners, most of them have left but the few shops that are open, they just use plywood and just like 3/4 inch plywood, they don't put soft runs in because they know it's going to be burned down. These are professional agitators. These are bad people and they're paid a lot of money by rich people, some of whom we know. I'm sure I know, some I don't. If I knew, I wouldn't have associate because I'll be in trouble because Pam will say why are you associating with this person? But I will tell you that these are bad, bad people and they're paying a lot of money, millions of dollars. But take a look at Portland sometime. These are wild. These are crazy people and they're trying to burn down buildings, including federal buildings. And on my list of things that I want to do before we finish up with this cities because I think we're going to whip the cities back into shape and we have to. We cannot let our cities. And that's a small example, but it's the most violent example. It's every night and they've done it for years. You think maybe at some point they made their point and what are they doing? But we're going to get out there and we're going to do a number of those.

[B]

Yes, Tom.

[A]

So it's really interesting in Portland to bring some numbers behind this. The president's right. We need the federal government to intervene. And you want to know why? 69 officers, officers resigned coming out of COVID 2020-2021 stating that a combination of the COVID policies and just allowing them to create that zone downtown. One year later that number was announced at the end of 21. So 20 to 21 that year it was 229 had resigned in 2023 the city declined to state after being asked by multiple media outlets, including Fox how many got people have resigned on the police force or took early retirement. 2023 they refused to state. Then the Manhattan Institute published that privately that the government in Portland had said they have a major staffing crisis with the police. They simply don't have enough and they can't get anyone to take the jobs. And ladies and gentlemen, the mayor, Mayor Rainbow comes to the microphone saying we, we don't need the federal government, we don't need the help. They are in the middle of a staffing crisis where if she had to put her her hand in the air at a congressional hearing, she would have to admit that They've lost over 300 officers that haven't been replaced and they can't get people to take the job.

[D]

That's a she. That's her.

[C]

Well, this is the governor of Oregon.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Tina Cote.

[D]

That's a girl. Yes. She play it.

[B]

There's no way. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

I think she's a lesbian.

[A]

I'm sorry, Governor Rainbow.

[D]

Governor, we're in the central city of.

[F]

Portland, Oregon, and it is a beautiful day and we are very happy to.

[D]

Be here speaking with you today.

[F]

In my conversations directly with President Trump.

[D]

Olbermann. I thought that was Chief Olbermann.

[F]

I have been abundantly clear with them.

[D]

That Portland, the glasses and the state of Oregon, always the black friend glasses.

[F]

Believe in the rule of law and.

[D]

We can manage our own. No, really, you can't.

[A]

With what?

[F]

There is no insurrection.

[D]

Oh, really?

[F]

There is no threat to national security and there is no need for military troops in our major city.

[B]

You can pause it right there. I mean, you say something like that and choose the best backdrop with a boat coming by thinking like, that's exactly what Portland's like. I've been in Portland many, many times. There's so many good breweries up there and the people are actually good people, but at the same time, it's a little weird. It's not. And it's. It's not. Have you been a Portland?

[D]

Yeah, it's not.

[B]

It's not.

[D]

I did a comedy show there and there was nothing funny about times.

[A]

It backs up to Vancouver, Washington, also known as Small Vancouver. And Pat's right under the bridges, it used to be called the Rose Garden, was downtown, the trail, the jailblazers and all that went with that. And there's a lot of was rebuild that was going on. And there are small brewers, the Oregon breweries up there. Oregon Honey Beer, that was award winning.

[D]

So.

[A]

So, and this goes back 15 years ago. And now what I look, I look up some of the stuff and it's like backed off or they've moved.

[B]

Yeah. And, and you know what I just did as well? I just went up here to see what's going on. Remember how California was the first time since 1851 that they lost people? In 2023, Oregon lost. They had 131,403 people that left versus 125 came in. So their net migration in 23 was minus 6,000 people left. And then in Portland alone, that was Oregon. But In Portland alone, 4,000 residents left in 12 months. July to July 22 to 23 net conventional migrants. What about Amazon? Net loss? Yeah, this is. People are not wanting to live in a place like this. And you say you have it under control. The governor has the audacity to say they have it under control. What do you think Trump's going to say? What do you think Trump says on the phone call?

[A]

I hope he Goes to the receipts and saying, if it's under control, why was your own mayor talking to the Manhattan Institute at the end of 2023, less than two years ago, saying that you have a staffing crisis with your cops? Why say that? I want the president to go grab that stuff and put the receipts out so it's not him versus them.

[B]

Good point.

[A]

I want the numbers out there.

[B]

Yep. Adam, thoughts?

[C]

So the only place in the country I've never been is the Pacific Northwest. Portland, Seattle. The furthest northwest I've ever been in San Francisco. And there's nothing compelling me at this point to want to go there. I still see people from California and I'm like, oh, you know, and they moved to Miami. And I'm like, well, man, you made it out, buddy. Congratulations. We've seen this happen in New York. But they still say, well, you know, I'm going to miss California and miss New York. People I run into from the Pacific Northwest, every time I talk to them, they're like, dude, there's nothing going on here at this point. It's all progressive woke ideology. And you know what sort of codified this? Remember we had the American Gangster come on the show. His name is Chael Sonnen. Do you remember that?

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Shout out to Chael. American badass UFC fighter. And we were talking about what's going on in his home state of Oregon, and he's like, look, man, the governor's a nice lady governor, Tina Kotech. But this whole area needs a complete rude awakening right now. And it's going to take somebody like this bad, bold badass to get up there and clean this mess up. There needs to be many trumps all over the country, and I'm not saying they need to be MAGA extremists. That's not going to work in a place like Portland or Seattle or San Francisco. But this progressive ideology goes lefter and lefter and lefter, and someone needs to bring it back to the middle. This might be the guy to do it.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

And you know, you know one part where you think about people who finally realize they have to change some policies. Folks from Portland, I know one thing for a fact. Most of you are not watching this podcast.

[A]

No.

[B]

And those of you that are watching this podcast, you probably love your city. You don't want to leave, and you want to see a change. Okay? But the reality of it is you either have to go around converting people's policies and asking them questions, because if you don't, if it gets voted like this over and over again. You voted for this. This is what you wanted. If you don't want it, change the way you vote or else this will be the case for many, many years to come. And I don't think Trump's going to hesitate. I think Trump's going to send people there and you're going to see when he sends people there within two weeks, it's going to clean up. But say they stay there for two weeks.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And then they leave two weeks, that it's still going to go back to the same thing. So the antifa, unless if they're going around arresting antifa members or saying anti fascist, what's more fascist than what you're doing right there in the streets, you think that's the right thing to do? You guys watch the latest Joker movie, not the musical, the one previous that would Joaquin Phoenix one too many times. You know, those guys probably watch reruns of that Joker movie, the first Joker would watch in Phoenix, the one that I walked out of after 43 minutes knowing the fact that they're dividing America, you know, putting the hate into people who are business owners. They're bad people. They're bad. That one right there. Yeah. Anyways, let's go to the next story here. Rob Michigan, one person dead, nine injured in a shooting and fire at Michigan Church. Police say. Rob, if you want to pull up the story, there's multiple stories I have of this one here. I'm going to go to the CNN one first and I'm going to go to the other one. Can you imagine? All you want to do is go to church and all of a sudden you're there and at least four people were killed. This is the latest update I'm reading. And eight others were wounded in a shooting at Church of Latter Day Saints in Grand Blanc Township, Michigan police said. Authorities say gunmen rammed a vehicle through the front of the church during a large service, began shooting and intentionally set a fire that grew into a large blaze. Officers exchanged fire with gunmen and killed them, according to police. Investigators have identified the man as Thomas Jacob Sanford, a 40 year old from the nearby city of Burton. The FBI is now leading the investigation into a deadly shooting and suspected arson at a Michigan church. Bureau is investigating the incident as an act of targeted violence, according to Ruben Coleman. Rob, if you want to play the.

[A]

Clip, this is from inside the church.

[C]

As the shooting took place yesterday.

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[B]

We'Re not going to see anybody getting shot.

[D]

No. Are you sure, Rob?

[C]

This is what was going on.

[B]

This is the older one.

[D]

This is the older video that's last week, which is still bad. Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't.

[B]

Think that's the same video.

[C]

And here's the. This is the police chief yesterday talking about the shooting.

[A]

And then I also have him talking.

[C]

About the shooter, which.

[B]

Go for it. Go. Shooting first.

[C]

Okay.

[G]

Their call came out here today said was happening at 10:25am at the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints which is located at 4285 McCandless Road. During this incident, what we know right now is that a 40 year old suspect from Burton, he's a male, he drove his vehicle through the front doors of the church. He then exited his vehicle firing several rounds at individuals within the church. Ten gunshot victims have been transported to local hospitals at this time, including one who has been deceased. Officers who were trained immediately responded to the area. One was a DNR officer and then one was a Grand Blank Township officer. And where they met the suspect and they engaged in gunfire with that particular individual neutralizing that suspect. And that suspect is no longer with us. As I said, it is a 40 year old male from Burton. During all this incident as well, there was a fire that occurred and we believe that that was deliberately set by the suspect. We do believe that we will find additional victims once we have that scene secure.

[B]

Okay, so a few things I'm seeing here about the guy. 40 years old, former Marine from 04208, served in Iraq in his tenure. He lived there in Burton, Michigan, which is near Grand Blanc. Drove the pickup truck. You're going through the whole thing that he just explained there casualties. We already talked about that act of targeted violence. The attack occurred one day after the death of LDS Church President Russell M. Nelson. I think he died at 101 years old. If I'm not mistaken, he was a 17th president. I think could be the 14th or the 17th president, Rob, if you can verify that. On which it was. So Vinnie, what are your thoughts on this story?

[D]

Well, I mean if. If you're out there and you're listening to this and you're paying attention even a little bit, it's obvious what's happening. Okay. Christians are under attack and we are the most persecuted religion on the planet this weekend. Tom, I was listening to the audio Bible and I'm not even joking. Right when this was happening. Matthew. The verse of Matthew came up while he was saying, blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, and theirs will be the kingdom of heaven. Okay, We're. It's. And. But we have so many stories. I'm not even going to get into the second part of it. But, you know, in the last few weeks, there was a coach. This was kind of simple. He was praying with some of the players. He was shot at. He was actually shot. Minneapolis Trans shooter opens fire inside of a church while children are praying. Okay? And now we have this. The guy apparently had IEDs driving into a church and started shooing. And I've said this before, and I apologize to everybody that thinks that. I'm just repeating the same talking points. It's not flesh and blood. Everybody thinks we're fighting antifa or China or Muslims. It's not that. We are literally fighting the devil, okay? And our enemy is Satan, okay? And we're seeing it manifest here. His power is being manifested here on earth, Tom, and it's. It's undeniable at this point. Can you imagine, guys, could you imagine if every week. Adam, this is for you guys, too. A synagogue was getting bombed. And look at that. Look at that footage. Look at that. Every week that was happening to. To synagogues or. Or, you know, mosques or temples, a Hindu temple. What the hell? They'd be an outrage. But for some reason, when it comes to us, when it comes to. To Christians, nobody cares. This is going to be talked about for one more day, and then it's over. And it's. And it's pissing me off because we need to step the hell up. Everybody steps up for everybody else, Pat, but nobody steps up for us.

[A]

Well, we're incredibly. Amen, Vinnie. Amen to that.

[D]

It's ridiculous.

[A]

The Lord gave us Jesus Christ to save us from a broken world and did not promise that this world would be our utopia. But living in the foundation of Christ, you go to make a strong and positive impact on everyone and you pray for your enemies. And we are a very angry nation right now. And there are things that are manifesting and people say, well, it's not just Christians. No, it's not just Christians. But the amount of persecution globally is worse among Christians. The UN knows it. The UN even publishes it. Cato Institute publishes it. Sometimes it's inconvenient to talk about that if you have a narrative that you want to push one way or the other, but it's true. And you have this Church of Latter Day Saints, these people with their kids going to worship, mind their own business. And a guy with a truck comes through and people say, well, it's all about gun control. He had these large apparent Jerry cans with gasoline that set it on fire. So what prevents him from driving through and setting it on fire? Does everybody escape alive? Maybe, but you've still got. It's not about the weapon. It's about the people. It's about the people that are there. And Christians are the number one persecuted. But there's a lot of angry things. And I want to know this guy's background. I want to know how we could have noticed it, how we could have stopped it, how we could have stepped in. I want to know that.

[D]

Yeah, look at him, Tom. He's there. Look at his wife. He has a child.

[B]

Is that a Trump shirt? Zoom in.

[C]

Yeah, it looks like a Trump 2020 shirt.

[B]

Okay, so he was a supporter of Trump 2020 Pence outside of. So he had a sign of Trump and Pence outside of his house in his Sanford home. A 2019 social media photo post shows that Sanford wearing a Trump T shirt slogan make liberals cry again.

[C]

Unbelievable.

[B]

No verified records of Huntington party registration of Republicans. So that's not been reported yet. Investigators have explicitly said that speculation about his motives of political leanings is just that, speculation. And that they won't draw conclusions. But there's nothing that's. Let me. Is this him still Rob, or is this someone else?

[C]

This is what the Internet saying is him.

[B]

Okay, can we read some of these things? Politically active, Democratic socialist, progressive and proud union member. So is that a post of his.

[D]

Well, that's his description on his ex. Thomas J.

[B]

Sand joined July 2020. Is that the real name of the guy though? Is it Thomas J. Sanford? Yeah.

[A]

Are we sure this is the right. You know, because Thomas Jacob Sanford is his name.

[B]

Okay, go back to the other one. I don't see the picture on his face, so I don't know if that's going to be him. So keep going to the next one. Grandma. General Iraqi killed has a stomp.

[D]

Trump Trump sign at his.

[B]

Stop Trump sign at his house. Okay, Stop Trump sign at his house. So not a pro Trump sign at his house. Keep going. Okay, it was a Trump hating liberal. They tried to scrub his Facebook, but they weren't quite fast enough. So never support A president who IQ is 30 points lower than yours and failing. And he was talking about Trump. Okay, so. So then what is that other picture that people are posting? Okay, what is that one. The one right there with the Trump shirt on. Is that the same guy? Zoom in a little bit more on the shirt, Rob.

[C]

See if you can trump that post.

[D]

Yes, his liberals. Liberals Cry Again, 2000. See, that doesn't add up. So in 2020, he joined and he's saying he's a progressive Democratic. Yeah, maybe that's. None of it makes sense.

[C]

Maybe that's not a shirt.

[A]

Hang on. Go back to the. There's something in here. Look at his. If this is the right account, there is a pin tweet. Pat, take a look at this pin tweet. Rob, could you go to that you.

[B]

Just added a minute ago?

[A]

Yeah. If this is correct, on 2021, a single 1400 payment when the unemployment system owes me over ten grand to show no remorse for cheating me. I'm underwhelmed. So he appears to be upset. If this is the correct account. We all got to be very careful with this. If the news media is publishing, this is the correct account. From Eau Claire, Wisconsin. Okay. But it appears that there's some anger. He's wearing a Trump shirt, says 2020, and there sure appears to be some, like, anger at the system. You see that, Pat? Like. Like I've been cheated or something's going on. Democrat, Socialist, Progressive Union member. So that there are.

[B]

He seemed to have donated to Blue numerous times. So he donated to Blue Political Action Pacific. $192. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.

[D]

Rob, what was the actual handle? Thomas.

[B]

About 12 times he donated to the Democratic Party. If that's the same person, we're talking.

[D]

Let me see his handle. I think it was like Thomas J. Like his. The account that you had up.

[B]

Thomas J. Sanford won. Thomas J. Sanford won. Thomas J. Thomas J. Sanford. 1. If that account is still up, let's.

[D]

See if they have it.

[A]

And we say allegedly.

[D]

But that's the same thing without a beard. Like, it might be him. People without a beard, maybe.

[B]

No, but that's not the same. Nothing like the guy.

[D]

Yeah, see, there we go.

[B]

It doesn't look.

[D]

This guy works for PTI Professional. Yeah, this. And he has a Ukraine flag.

[B]

No, this isn't the same guy. So here's the part we. We don't yet know where he's at. Okay. Sanford. Rob, you put a D in there. There wasn't a D. It's a sand. You put Sanford. Yeah. Sanford.

[D]

Just to clarify. Yeah, you're right. This guy's from Wisconsin.

[B]

That's not the same guy. No, it's not. So, again, more Details will come about this. There's another story talking about that. You know, it could be a former member of the church that had a bad experience that was going after that. I don't know if the guy was LDS or not, but there's a lot of different stories that come up with this. Adam, your thoughts on this?

[C]

Yeah, Well, I can't believe I need to say this, but political violence or religious violence has no place in America. We just saw what happened with Charlie Kirk. We've seen multiple situations where places of worship, whether it's this LDS Church in Michigan, whether there's the Catholic Church in Minnesota, there's the synagogue in Pittsburgh, whether there's a Sikh temple. This seems to be a common theme here. It is incumbent on our cities, on our police forces, to protect the most vulnerable. The places of worship. And schools and social gatherings should be just that. They should not be crime scenes. And it's becoming all too common that it's crime scene at a church, crime scene at a school, crime scene at a. At a public gathering. And at what point is say, enough's enough. So churches, you know, Rob, I sent you some data. You know, people, America has becoming more secular and secular and secular over the last few decades, and there seems to be at least a pause in people becoming less religious, less Christian, even. Here's a. Here's a. I don't know if you have this stat right here, but since the shirting shooting of Charlie Kirk, more people have gone back to church. I think we need more of that in America today. The, the biggest challenge that churches have, whether it's churches, whether it's synagogues, whether it's mosques, you know, we can keep that separate, is at one point, you want to get people to come in, but how do you keep the bad people out at this particular church, Latter Day Saints, I guess LDS is known for saying visitors welcome. They want people to come in and experience church.

[B]

That's everything.

[C]

That's my point. But they want people to come in and experience. But how do you keep people like this out?

[B]

That's the. That's the. Okay, that's the. That's such a heavy question that you have. It's not. You're not going to be able to do it because what do churches say? Anybody's welcome. The most broken people are welcome because they come and they get on their knees and they give their life to Christ and you can be forgiven. That's the, that's the part that some other religions and denominations have a hard time with. Christianity, where they Say we've had this conversation before. You mean to tell me I can go do XYZ and I can come and accept Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior. And if you truly believe it and if it's coming from your heart, that's what makes this, you know, as unique of a, you know, faith that it is, you know, when it becomes you, you want those folks to come. But to me, this is. I want to know more. I can't stand hearing stories like this because the last place people need to be worried when they go to is the church. That's where you need to go and sit down, pray, go through whatever phases you're going through. I mean, listen, the weekend when the Charlie Kirk assassination happened, that was like the last weekend, folks. If you ran a church, that was not the weekend to be asking for money and to come out and say, hey, we have a $28 million building project. Some people did that, believe it or not. And that's like the wrong weekend to do it. But, you know, it's tragic, it's devastating, it's annoying. By the way, I don't care who he supported. He needs to be held accountable. Somebody posted something on Twitter. I bet they'll never bring this up. You're talking to the wrong group. Like, we're not those guys that are not going to bring it up and not cover it, whether he was or he wasn't. For a man to do something like this, you have issues. But I want to know more. I want to know every single thing about this guy's records. What church he went to, what happened with his family, what happened a week before, what happened two weeks before. And God willing, they'll find it. But terrible, terrible story.

[C]

Adam, let me just weigh in. So I think churches need to, and schools for that matter, need to do a better job of playing defense. You know, my point was you want people to come in, but at what point? At what price? This past week, it was the Jewish New Year, which is called Rosh Hashanah. And if you were going to go to temple, oh, there's no way that a shooter is getting in there because a temple at this point has become a full on SWAT driven security establishment.

[D]

Good.

[C]

Because the attacks on Jews that are happening. So my Christian friends need to take notice. You know, we talk about tolerance and don't, don't take my kindness as weakness. They're coming after you. Whether that's a certain type of people, whether that are atheists, whether that are anarchists, and Jewish people, for that matter, have learned the hard way. And my hope and prayer is that churches realizes, wow, guys, like, have you not noticed what's going on at churches now? The shootings, this. This thing that happened in Michigan and, you know, protect yourself. In America, we have this sort of like toggling.

[B]

You're right about that. You're right about that. I mean, this last fall conference, we spent the. We spent three times as much last vault for security. I don't know how many metal detectors. We had 10 lines.

[D]

I mean, I was late because I was running to a metal. Metal detectors.

[B]

It was taking long time to get people to come in purely because of trying to get everybody to make sure that place was safe. So nobody had to be worried about. So. Yeah, but bigger budget of that has. You didn't have to worry about this 10 years ago, five years ago. No, this was like the last thing on our minds. But you have to do it today.

[D]

And Pat, I have to be armed. Like I. You think I want to be armed at my church? I have to. Because you know what? I'm taking it. I'm taking the responsibility. If God forbid, something happens, guess what? I'm running towards the fire.

[B]

I was at a. I was at a soccer tournament this weekend, and I was. I was. I was armed the entire time. You have to be. You have to be ready and thank God. The way they set up the storm, there was cops everywhere.

[D]

Good.

[B]

I love the way they did it. There was cops everywhere. But you have to. You know what? Just what they announced last week. Florida.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Open. Close to carry.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

On the back of the bike in Florida.

[B]

Go ahead.

[C]

I'm sorry.

[A]

No, I said. I said open.

[D]

Open.

[B]

Open carry.

[C]

So anyways, do you remember, Pat, we had a conversation a couple years ago with Zubi, and it was a conversation of what's a better city, Riyadh in Saudi Arabia or New York City.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

And I'm like, new York City, obviously, dude. And he's like, not so fast, buddy. Have you ever been to Saudi and. Which prompted a conversation between the difference between America and certain other places in the world where between freedom and safety. In America, we value our freedom. Right. Another great Patrick. Patrick Henry said, give me. Give me liberty or give me death. That's what we value. But what's the price of freedom? You have stuff like this where you have other cities where there's zero religious or, I'm sorry, freedoms. In a lot of the Middle Eastern countries, UAE or Saudi, there's no freedoms, but they're safe. You hear stories like, you could leave your wallet out there, nobody's going to steal it. So there's this sort of like balance. It's like a seesaw between freedom and safety. I'd much rather have the freedom that we have in America.

[B]

But in America we need protection as well. But everything is based on what you had to escape. So what we had to escape caused the way the founding fathers created America was to allow you to have guns. To say, you shouldn't be afraid of us. We want you to also be able to protect yourself. That if the government ever wanted to become tyrannical and come after you, you're fully protected. It's not. Not everybody has the same story of reasoning of how they start their countries, but America was that. And quite frankly, I don't mind it. I actually, you know, support how this place was built. That's what we're here. All right, let's get to the next story. Your next story I want to get to is there was one story that all of you guys wanted to talk about. Is that one right there? Yeah. Nigeria. That's right into it right there. Yeah. So you know 7,000 Christians have been killed in Nigeria this year. 7,000. According to Newsweek. This story came out and you don't hear much about it. Okay. You don't. You hear a lot more about Gaza than you hear about Christians. Christians get killed. Even some Christians don't talk about it enough. They put more focus on to what's going on with Gaza because it's easier to have a enemy that is disliked than this. However, this is the reality of it. What's going on in Nigeria right now? 7,000 Christians have been killed in during the first 220 days of 2025. A civil society watchdog says this is an average of 35 killings, killings a day. According to recent report published by the Nigeria based human rights NGO International Society for Civil Liberties and the Rule of Law. Nigeria has long been an epicenter of Christian persecution with more Christians killed for their faith in Nigeria than in the rest of the world combined. Damn. According to human rights organization Open Doors, which monitors the persecution of Christians around the globe, the violence has displaced at least 12 million Christians since 0916 years. According to Inner Society. This that year marked the start of Boko Haram's insurgency to establish a caliphate in Nigeria and the broader sahel. In the 16 years since, Inter Society estimates 189,000 civilians have been killed, 125,000 of whom were Christians and 60,000 were liberal Muslims. The Inter Society reports that 7,087 Christians were killed in Nigeria between January 1 and August 10. And that 7,800 were abducted in the same period. The report identified Bennu State and Nigeria Middle Belt as among the hardest hit with at least 1100 deaths, including the Yalawatta massacre in June with 280 Christians were killed. Rob, if you have a clip to play, is this the clip of the gentleman explaining what's going on? Oh, this the one that I'm running out. Okay, go for it. It's after church service, I believe, by the way.

[D]

That'S every gunshot you're hearing is hitting a person.

[B]

My people, my family members, they died in this house. 11. And some die in the other store. 8. Some died here. My whole family members that died yesterday, day before yesterday, on that very day that we are 20. That is my own family members. I'm not talking about any other thing. That's my own family members. This is my store. Those shops are my stores. Those places are being born. Please work those places. This place is being born.

[C]

Here.

[B]

And up. My house is up there. That place also is born. And the store where I pack my goods. I store my goods everywhere as bone. They burned my clothes. They burned everything. They burned our food. All my family members, what we came out with is our clothes, what we wear. And I standing here, this is what I came out with. And this is the only thing that I have. There's no anything with me.

[D]

Vinnie, thoughts going back to exactly what I was talking about. And it's like, I'm gonna be honest. I had no idea. And why is that? Because the mainstream media doesn't give a damn. And they're not reporting this. It took Bill Maher. It took Bill Maher. And you guys know me, I'm one of the most critical about this fricking guy. Tds. He goes back, he goes left, he goes right. It took him having Nancy Mace on to bring this up. Rob, you wanna play this clip? Yeah, play this clip, please.

[C]

Nigeria.

[A]

I mean, the fact that this issue has not gotten on people's radar.

[D]

Right.

[B]

No one's talking about it.

[A]

It's pretty amazing if you don't know what's going on in Nigeria.

[B]

Your media sources suck.

[D]

Yup.

[A]

You are in a bubble. And again, I'm not a Christian, but they are systematically killing the Christians in Nigeria. They've killed over 100,000 since 2009. They've burned 18,000 churches. This is so much more. These are their Islamists, Boko Haram. This is so much more of a genocide attempt than what is going on in Gaza.

[B]

They are literally attempting to wipe out.

[A]

The Christian population of an entire country. Where are the kids protesting this?

[B]

That's a great point.

[D]

Thank you. No one will talk about it.

[F]

So thank you.

[A]

Absolutely.

[D]

And so why is it because. And he said this. But Adam, I know you said this. The point I got to give you credit where credit is due. No Jews, no news. Okay? This is a calling for all the Christian people. Like, where are you at? That's. And you made. You said. I have to highlight it. 41 in 2023, 4100 Christians killed. That's 82% of all faith based related killings worldwide. Guys, 84% of every Christian dying is right there. Okay? And meanwhile, guess what? The US lawmakers are pushing. They're pushing. They haven't declared anything. Labeling Nigeria a country of particular concern. All right, what particular concern? The concern is there. And this is the. This guys. And the most powerful part. And I have to hold back my freaking emotions with all this persecution. Pat, 94% of Nigerian Catholics are still still going to mass every week. Their faith is freaking unshaken even in the face of death time. Rob, can you play this clip? Look at this. Look at that. They're refusing. Holy moly. God bless them. Look at this.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

You can stop it, Rob. So that's what. Faith over fear. Look at that, Tom. Faith. They still. And they're not stopping. They're not stopping. And I absolutely love. Pat. They can't. What are they going to do? Bow down and say, no, no, we're sorry. No, no, no, you got to stick up for your faith. And that's it. Wow. Tom, mint is still $15 a month for premium wireless. And if you haven't made the switch.

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[A]

This is heavy stuff and I'm glad to finally see it coming out in media so that people can see the truth of what's going on in this world. This is why the world needs a savior. And what you have here is you have people understanding that a church is not a building. A church is a gathering of believers who are supporting each other, holding hands in the remnant of a building there, not knowing if their oppressors are going to return to finish the job on them. That is faith in action. That is faith over fear. And what you also have is although Nigeria is rich in resources, they got a lot of natural resources. The way to get people to help you in this world is to have oil, to have gold, or have rich minerals. And then the west that needs those is more likely to give you aid and come help. That's not a criticism, that's a fact. And the thing that inspires me is that these people are living and trying to do it. What further inspires me is the churches and organizations around the world that are continuing to send missionaries and relief supplies into these areas. Darfur has been going on for 20 years now. Darfur, 20 years. And so to understand the power of the faith is to see it right there. And to say what could make someone there simply come together and pray, not pick up arms, not going to retaliation mission, but to come together and pray in encouragement. That's what this is all about. The number one persecuted group on earth is Christians. You can spin it any way you want, but you'd be wrong. This is what's happening. And they're returning prayer and peace in the face of persecution. And you've got governments. In this case, it happens to be a Sunni side of the Islamic tradition that is in control of the government that is systematically trying to wipe everybody else out, specifically the Christians. And the reason the Christians are dangerous, if you ask, they will tell you, is because they're fearless. And they keep talking about Christ and they keep attempting to bring the good news of Jesus to other people, which causes people to convert. It's not political. It's not. Are you scared about carrying a Republican or a Democrat voter id? No, I'll just carry independence so if anybody steals my wallet, they won't pick on me. No, these are people that are bringing the good news of Jesus Christ and these people are unafraid. And that is what the other side is fears is the power of the Holy Spirit and people converting. So what do they, do they think that by burning the churches and killing the people that they're doing it? This is horrifying, but they are liberating. But they are also, they are also inspiring people to be missionaries to reach out and do it. And I just wish that the attitude of the media wouldn't be the right people are dying.

[B]

Yeah, Adam.

[D]

Well.

[C]

I don't know how you guys haven't noticed this, but this is something that's been going on for years and years and years and years and the media just doesn't cover it. But it doesn't take an investigative journalism to realize that the following, you know, they famously say not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists just happen to be Islamists. And I would like to separate what it is between it being an Islamist or jihadist, between a normal peace loving Muslim. Like let's get real here. But all these groups have something in common. Whether it's isis, Al Qaeda, Taliban, the Boko Haram that just murdering Christians in Nigeria, whether it's the Islamic Jihad, whether it's the Houthis in Yemen, they're all jihadists. So. Which makes me wonder. Hamas is literally one of these groups. This is their function. They want to kill people who are not like them. The only difference is all these other groups are focusing on Christians. Hamas just happens to be focusing on Jews. But they famously say first they come for the Saturday people, but then guess what, then they come for the Sunday people. These people do not want to coexist. What don't you get, guys? What don't you get? I mean, you know, you might have your criticism what's going on in Gaza, but Jews in or Israelis, because not all Israelis are Jewish, have a very deep understanding of it's kill or be killed, unfortunately. You think you're, you think you're going to negotiate with Boko Haram, you think you're going to reason with these people that are literally mowing people down. They're leaving church. They have a higher calling from Allah to commit jihad or practice jihad and there's nothing, nothing stopping them. You know, Pat, you always talk about choose your enemies wisely, you know, and, and you give credit to your enemies. You give them credit because they're very clear in what they want. They want to take you out in business or they want to take you out in life. And it's very clear what's happening. You said no Jews, no news, correct? Correct. Why are there protests just for Gaza? I mean, show me a protest for what's going on in Nigeria. Christians Getting mowed down. Nothing. Show me a protest for what's going on in Sudan. Millions of people show me a protest of what's going on in Ukraine. At this point, nothing. So the, the hypocrisy that comes from. Well, it's what's going. It's a genocide in Gaza. There's other countries in the world where Christians are being persecuted. Not just persecuted, killed, beheaded. You see what's going on in Syria.

[D]

That'S literally they're trying. 125,000 people murdering.

[C]

You see what happened with the Druze and the Christians in Syria? But you know, I always have fun when, when I see people doing the Free Palestine. Okay, cool. I respect that. And I said, you see these interviews? Why are you doing this? We're anti war. We're anti war. Great. Name me one other protest you've ever been to. Name me one other. No, this is the only thing I've ever done. So that's the hypocrisy that they've never gone to any other anti war protests other than what's going on.

[B]

I'll tell you what though, man. Let me tell you guys, if there's anything like I had a very intense conversation with one of my kids last night. Very intense conversation, one of my kids last night. You have to be very careful, man, to, to not fall, fall for the mob. And just because somebody is so convincing in their delivery of their message, you, you can't, you cannot be. And you may sit there, you may be like, well, he seems like he's this, he seems like he's that. He seems like he's this. He's like, yeah, oh my God. That's what they're doing. And you, oh my God, I'm feeling. And you're like, hey, pump the brakes, bro. This is how you all of a sudden get recruited into a mob. Be very, very careful of how you get manipulated and brainwashed into certain things, okay? You have to be. They do to kids, they do to adults. They happen. It doesn't matter if you're 70 years old, 80 years old, 22 years old, 42 years old, or 13 years old, they're going to come after you to try to brainwash you. And almost, you know what percentage falls for it? You know what percentage falls for it? What percentage of people think fall for brainwashing, for, for, for, for the mob. What percentage? I'm going to give you a number. I bet you're not going to get it right. What do you think the number is?

[D]

80 to 90.

[B]

What percentage falls for it. I'm going to tell you a number for the brain falls for the mop.

[D]

90.

[B]

Getting a hold of your brain.

[D]

90%.

[B]

And you're like. You're like supporting something that's absolutely ridiculous. Ridiculous. What percentage falls for, say, 90?

[A]

I go on 66.

[B]

What are you gonna say? Yeah, 40, 50, 100%.

[D]

All of us do see that.

[B]

All of us do. Anybody who sit here, sitting here, acting like, oh, that would never happen to me, you're part of it as well. No one walks on water. I'm telling you for myself, I have to watch for it. I'm better off thinking all of us are. What's the word? Or potential victims to falling for the mob. Everybody, good, bad, horrible people, it doesn't matter. The most noble person can fall for the flipping mob. This is not about, like, I am more. I have more education. It can't happen to me. The most educated people have been bought into the mob. The ones with the fanciest degree that are part of this community are recruited into the mob. Buy the mob, go to universities. What do you think? Most of these dumb protests are happening where? And you ask him basic question they don't have an answer for this guy here. I don't have a clue. This guy is. But I've watched more clips of this guy in the last four days than anybody else in the world. He knows how to sing songs in 54 languages. The guy's incredible. Itai benda. I don't know who he is. And when I tell you, Vinnie, I watch 40, 50 videos. I watch it with Tico, Dylan and Senna and my wife Jen. We're on the way to the tournament this weekend. So he doesn't tell you where he's from first.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

He first asks you where you're from.

[C]

Got you.

[B]

Then he sings a song for you. Then at the end, he tells you where you're from. And then they get mad because he's from Israel. So watch this here. Go ahead, Rob, play this clip.

[D]

I live in Germany, but I'm from Turkey. Nice. Can I sing it? Can I sing a song for you? Like what was like Israeli, Israel song or something like that?

[C]

Let me sing a song for you.

[D]

Let me sing a song for you. At first, maybe small, small one.

[B]

Okay. Love me like you do.

[D]

Love me, love me.

[B]

Okay, there we go. So he's from Turkey, right. Now watch. 54 languages, fluently.

[D]

What many senses. Wow.

[B]

Incredible.

[D]

Sick.

[B]

Look at the book on the guy. So he's from Turkey. This is his way of bringing people Together now watch what happens.

[D]

I don't speak Turkish, bro. You.

[C]

You speak even better Turkish than me.

[B]

No, I don't speak Turkish. Where are you from?

[D]

Are you from Iran or something like that?

[B]

I'm from Israel.

[D]

There is no Israel.

[B]

You can Google it.

[D]

It's on Google.

[C]

No, it's not Israel.

[D]

For people who don't believe in God, there is Israel.

[C]

Of course there is.

[D]

What's in there if not Israel? There is only Palestine.

[B]

Can I ask you a question?

[D]

Yeah, for sure. How. How many times Israel is mentioned in the Quran? I think only seven times. No, no, 43 times. We know that Israel and Israel is the same piece of.

[B]

And how many.

[D]

How many times Palestine is mentioned? Palestine is not only one time. Ah, so don't have countries in Islam. What is Israel meaning for?

[C]

For.

[B]

For Islam means the.

[D]

The people of Israel. The Jewish. Yes, the. The Christians too. The Christians living too there. But they are now gone because the Israel people don't like them. You're just seeing a lot of lies. Because to me I have many Arab and Christian friends lives in Israel.

[B]

No, you don't have.

[D]

I grew up with Arab friends. Many, many.

[B]

I grow up with them.

[D]

They are blind.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

They don't see what you are. For you go to Israel. Look how many Arabs live the best life.

[B]

The best will go because inshallah, Iran broke this country.

[D]

Hope that every Muslim country break this building in one. No, they try. So they try so many times. So many times. They cannot. There is no Jewish people anymore. They're only Kofar people. And rich. You are jealous.

[B]

This is the point.

[C]

You are jealous. You are jealous.

[D]

You are jealous. You are jealous.

[A]

Y'.

[B]

All.

[D]

You are jealous.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Of y'?

[C]

All?

[D]

Yes, I am.

[C]

Yeah, of course.

[D]

So say I'm jealous. Say it. No. Three times. You didn't understand. So. So if. If I. If I'm jealous about. If I'm jealous about you, I don't need to hate you. But you hate me because you're jealous. I only hate people who think that it's normal to be killing little kids in Jewish piece of.

[C]

I'm not.

[D]

The problem is jealousy and stupidity together. Jealous and stupidity together. Yes. If you open your mind, you see the truth.

[C]

Shut up.

[D]

Okay. It all started with song.

[B]

By the way, this guy does this Rob. Can you go back to his account, please? Go back to his account. First of all, I'm going to give a shout out to this guy. I don't have a clue who you are. Italy, go a little bit lower. I don't have a Clue who you are. Okay. I've never met this guy. I've never talked to this guy. Go lower. He does one for an Armenian girl.

[D]

Where is it?

[B]

He does two Persian songs, but right there. Rob, just play that one for the first 45 seconds. I just want you to hear how he sings.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Watch this.

[C]

What's up? How are you? I like your room. You like my room? I like it, yes.

[D]

I actually like it too. Just go ahead. I'm ready.

[B]

Okay. I'm sad. Okay.

[D]

Where are you from originally?

[B]

Like, do you speak? Her reaction?

[C]

I'm from Armenia. Armenia.

[B]

Oh, yes. Oh, this guy is amazing. She's getting emotional at this. You can pause it right there.

[D]

Wow.

[B]

Okay, so. So, you know. You know what I love about this guy? He takes. How long do you think it takes to learn 50, 54 languages of a song to do 10 years, maybe more.

[D]

I don't know. Every day. I don't know how you.

[B]

By the way, he did Portuguese to Brazilian girl.

[D]

Spain.

[B]

He did to Siberia. He did one for Romanian guys. He couldn't believe it. The reaction from people are like, are you sure you're not Romanian? Says, no, I'm not. I'm from. Just because he wants to find a way to bring people together. See, we need. We need to recognize people like this more to see what they're doing. This is who needs to get a billion views. This guy needs to go viral for billions of people to see that. At the end of the day, we're human beings. Let's find a way to work together. Let's find a way to unify. So again, don't know who you are. Respect the hell out of you for doing what you're doing. I can watch this guy all day. And for some of you guys that are watching this and you see the story with Nigeria, and you wonder, you know, you know, one of the. The biggest shirt for the year that we've launched that sold thousands overnight one week is faith over Fear. I absolutely love the fact that Vinnie's shirt, Faith over Fear, has done the way that it has, because it tells me there's thousands of people bold enough that are willing to wear something like this, to work to the gym, to, everywhere they go to say, this is what I'm all about. That's. This is the message that I think we need more in America. For some of you guys that are watching this, ladies, it was good to.

[D]

See there's a girl.

[B]

How many ladies?

[D]

Way more than shirts. Yeah.

[B]

Ladies was on fire this weekend, which is great to see. But anyways, can I give you a fun fact? Yeah, go ahead. So this you're gonna say you partied with that guy now?

[C]

No, no, but I've seen him before. I. I've seen his. This Itai benda.

[D]

He better speak a series like I want an Assyrian song if he doesn't listening a Syrian song.

[C]

I want you to sing in a serious song for my friend Patrick bet David. The reason that I want to emphasize the last name Patrick bet David because Itai Benda. His last name is not Benda, it's Ben David. Itai Ben David. So Ben means the son of David. Bet I think is the house of David. So Gabriel, what's so amazing about this guy? I think he's born in Jerusalem. I think he lives in LA now. I could be mistaken, but you said this Pat. He believes in peace through music. We have way more in common than we have that divides us. And there's an example of like Guy, I'm going to sing for you. I want to be amazing.

[B]

I want to go and listen to that Armenian song one more time.

[C]

Let's do it. Such a lovely.

[B]

Go ahead. I want you to play right now.

[D]

Don't play right now.

[B]

I'm just saying like when this ends, you have to.

[D]

I'm telling you, Vinny, I have to.

[B]

I'm going to send you his account. Rob, can we put his account below for people to go follow? Can you guys just do me a.

[D]

Favor and tell him if you like.

[B]

What he's doing, if you like what he's doing, send them some love in a dm. Let him know he got a bunch of love today.

[D]

And he better look at the Syrian song.

[B]

Amazing.

[C]

Look at his name right there.

[B]

What are the chances?

[C]

Look at the bed Davids and the Bendavi doing our thing.

[B]

Listen, whether it's an N or T, it's a good last name.

[C]

Thank you for doing what you do, my friend.

[B]

All right, let's go to the next door here. Next door I want to get to is the US birth rates plummet to an all time low as housing prices continue to rise. Okay, Adam, I'm going to come to you with this one. Since this is a story you wanted to talk about. Let me get to it folks.

[C]

What page is it on?

[B]

Noinson. Okay, news that is 19. Oh, you want me to give you another language.

[C]

Now you're just showing off. PPD.

[B]

I can't sing in 54 languages. How about that is better. Yes. The US birthday plunge to an all time low in 2024. After on a downward trajectory roughly 20 years with soaring housing costs cited as major contributing factor. Earlier this summer, US center for disease control and prevention released updated birth rate for this year, revealing that the nation's national fertility rate to less than 1.6. I think the exact number is 1.59 to be exact, kids per women down from 2.1 just 19 years ago. Wow. Which, that's the replacement rate by the way. The country needs to sustain its population. The last two decades saw women increasingly delaying having children or choosing to not have them at all. There are many factors fueling this trend, including personnel and culture, and one of them is rising housing costs. Data analyzed by realtor.com economists show that 2006-2024 the financial burden of purchasing a home has grown dramatically. In 2006, the median price of a single family home was $222,000, which is now $343,000 in $2024 when adjusted for inflation. But by comparison, the median sale in 2024 was $410,000, which is $66,000 more than what it was in 26. So over time, the 18 year period, the u. S. Total fertility rate dropped from 2.1 to 1.6. Adam?

[C]

Well, to me these are two totally separate stories that they tried to like hodgepodge together to give some reasons to as to why birthplace birth rates are plummeting. Yeah. Does the housing market have something to do with it? A little bit, but not really. So intersexual dynamics is really the reason here. Housing aside, listen, you could rent the place, you could buy a place. That's not going to stop you from having kids. The biggest problem is what we discussed last week. You have young men in America that want nothing more than to settle down, have a family, have, have a wife, have kids. This is something that men have notoriously been known to do all throughout history. So that's sort of like the staple in this. The variable in this is the mindset of what women are doing these days. Modern feminist movement has ruined a lot of women and they'd rather focus on their careers than family. And all you have to simply do is this is if you're a woman, this is my best advice for young women. If you're 22, you're 24, you're 18, you're 28, go talk to a 50 year old woman that never got married, never had kids, but wanted to. You'll see nothing but regret in their eyes and they'll mask it with things like, you know, I was focused on my career. This one guy I dated. You know, these are all just excuses and there's nothing that I would like to see more that young men and young women actually come together and find some common ground here. So it was what, number one on the list for young men, Pat, you settle down, have a family, right?

[B]

Those who voted for Trump.

[C]

And it was for liberal women. It was what number on the list?

[B]

Number 12.

[C]

So, so you have young men. I, I won't even say they're conservative. They're just normal, sensible, common sense guys that want a chick. And they're fighting the struggle of modern feminism. And I see it all the time. You meet a young woman, she's amazing, you check out and then you click on her link in bio and it goes to onlyfans. And it happens way more than you think. And the most gorgeous women out there that used to be housewives or wonderful women or churchgoing women are, are now onlyfans girls. And this is a continual perpetuating problem. And then young men are faced with the decision of, wow, I met this girl. Am I really going to lower my standards for this beautiful woman who does only fans and they're going to say, I don't know about that. Is this really the type of girl I'm going to bring home for mom and women? I understand make your money, have your career, but it is going to come at a price, and I hope that the price is worth it. Please talk to older women and, and see what they think. That's my advice to young women.

[A]

I 100% agree with Adam and I'm going to add this to it. And thank you very much for that, Adam. You're absolutely right. And I'm going to add to it.

[C]

Take it that liberalism to the bank.

[A]

Yeah, Liberalism and progressive policy. To add on to what Adam's talking about, the only progress that progressive liberalism has done is made progress breaking the family, made progress. Being trying to teach the, the tenants of family break in the schools, being able to push liberalism. That's progressive. That's where they're making progress, is in infiltrating the minds of young men and young boys and girls that grow up to have exactly the dynamic that Adam's talking about. A guy that is looking to get married and looking around for who and then finding out what the mindset of a lot of women, not all of them out there, is all about. And it's devastating. I don't understand what writer went to a whiteboard to put these two things together. And I agree with Adam. At the beginning, they just slam these two things together, the hodgepodge, and made a story. But this is. This is deeper. Maybe, maybe an expensive house is part of it, but at the end of it, you've got. Progressive policies destroyed marriage and has infiltrated the minds of kids who. Which is why conservative people want this stuff not taught in schools, so that kids can grow up. And when you take a look at replacement rate, take a look at what happens downstream, you destroy the family, your taxes long term go up, and you destroy the fabric of that country.

[C]

Yeah, I agree.

[B]

Can you show that or no?

[C]

Rob, can we show that?

[B]

Is that part of a special? If it is, you can't show it.

[C]

I don't know if you can do that.

[D]

Nah, it's. He's on stage. It might be a special.

[B]

Okay, then don't show. But what's he saying right there, Rob? Robert? I don't know.

[C]

Are we allowed to play this clip?

[D]

I don't know.

[B]

No, no, no.

[C]

Okay, well, let me. Let me just summarize this, because Andrew Schultz did an amazing job, I think a year about his special. And he goes, ladies, how we all doing out there? And he says, you know, I see these protests that are going on out there, and I'm trying to find common ground. And the ladies that are like, you know, we deserve the right to work, he's like, I agree. Go for it. You know, and they're basically saying, you know, we deserve to have sex with anybody you want. And he's like, okay, have fun with it. You know, we deserve to free the nipple. Go for it. And they're basically just sort of encompassing feminist ideology. And he goes, listen, are you feminists or F boys? Because, you know, f boys, because this is how men think. Work, make money, hot chicks, blah, blah. This is how women think at this point. And he sort of exposes their progressive mindset, is that they're basically trying to be the people they hate, which is F boys. And Andrew Schultz encompasses it greatly. But modern feminism is not helping women. That. The. The good news is we are starting to see women and content creators say, I'm just a lovely housewife, and I'm here to help my husband and have kids. And it's an amazing opportunity.

[B]

Go to church, whatever you're doing right now, if you're one of these guys, go to church this Sunday. Find a local church. And I told this to a guy this weekend who was asking me, says, what do I do? I'm going through a really tough time in my life. I said, Go to church. But don't get discouraged if the first church sucks. I went through 26 until I found one, okay? So don't let it be like, oh my God, I went there and they talked about raising money. Oh my God, I went there and they were talking about a very technical story. Oh my God, I went there. I don't really connect with the pastor. You're right. You're not going to connect with all the pastors. But then there's going to come that one moment and when it does, you're going to feel it. You'll be in church all the way in the back, sitting by yourself and you're going to have that moment of yours and you can say, oh my God, God spoke to me today. You'll feel it when it happens to you. But go to church. Basic step number one. Go to church.

[C]

Can I say one thing? I fully agree with you.

[B]

For the Jewish church, it's called the synagogue.

[D]

You can come with us.

[C]

But you know, I've become more, I think more practicing since October 7th. You told me, you know, go, go to go get, get closer to God. And I've tried to. And I. And I am. And I do. Practicing what I will. What I will say is, I think more people should take that advice. The problem I have is also the hypocrisy and the double standards. You have no idea how many. And specifically women. But it's also guys, I see them drinking, partying, doing all sorts of thing in Miami on Saturday night and they go to church Sunday and they ask for forgiveness.

[D]

Well, that's not how it.

[C]

And I, I don't know how it works.

[D]

Well, that. Guess what?

[C]

It doesn't seem like there's alignment.

[D]

No.

[C]

Where your words.

[D]

No.

[C]

And your actions are not congruent.

[D]

If you want to listen, your words are.

[C]

Yeah, I want to get closer to God. I want to go to church. I want to find a husband. But then you're partying at space until 5am in Miami.

[D]

No. Well, guess what? Everybody out there go listen to James, the book of James. Just have it play, do an audio and listen to it. And he names all that stuff. You can't be that practicing. Talking about like, and knowing that you're gonna do it. Like it's not, it's not cleansing yourself. Like I could do whatever I want throughout the week. And then Sunday I'm back. No, no, because he's watching, bro. You have to be intentional, you know, I mean, do you have to cut off so many freaking things? And it's so hard, bro. He's like, your mind, if you're, if you're, you know, I mean, if your right eye is looking somewhere, cut it out. If you're, you know, I mean, if you're temptation with your right hand, cut it off. Like. And if you're knowingly doing at it, because once you go all in, Once you go all in, you can't be the fence guy. Like, you. And I know, because you mentioned that when you were talking about how. Well, if I'm doing all this stuff and I just, at the end, I say, hey, I'm sorry, I'm going to go to heaven. That's not. If you don't truly mean it, Adam, and you don't take the steps to try to become a good Christian, you know how hard, you know how hard this. Just the stuff that's going on in here. I'm at church and there's a beautiful girl, and my. It's a fight. Your brain is like, dude, don't look. It's. It's a constant, constant battle. But no, that's not how it works.

[C]

I'm glad that you talked about that, because I, by the way, it's not, it's not just exclusive in the Christian community. I have Jewish friends, Orthodox Jewish friends, where they're, they're doing the Sabbath and then after Shabbat, they're out partying in the club. Oh, my gosh, that's not how it works. Or, or I'll see a Muslim girl be like, that's haram. And she'll do this, and then she's on OnlyFans. No, the double standard and the hypocrisy is like the words that come out of your mouth are different than the actions that you actually do. And alignment, I think, is.

[A]

Adam, you make a really good point. But I would ask you a question. If you ran into somebody that was in your lane of life insurance and they were corrupt and they were really bad and you were really disgusted by that, would that keep you from your career doing as well as you've done in your lane of life insurance? No, it wouldn't. And so I think we have to be careful that we say, we don't blame flawed people that keep us from making our spiritual decision, because sometimes it ends up that you, you may not realize it, but it may come across kind of as a, as an excuse argument. Well, there's so much hypocrisy. Why should I go to church? Wait a minute. If, if you see bad plumbers in town, would you not Be a plumber. No, you'd be the best plumber you could be.

[B]

Some people would call him a plumber. I mean, Adam growing up as a kid.

[C]

That's true.

[B]

Laying pipes. But no, you're right. I totally get what you're saying. I think that the biggest thing with. You know where Adam is going with what he's saying. I fully agree. Because you think that's like your card. I'm gonna go here, then I'm gonna go to the club. No, it's contradiction. What I learned in life. Like the times I was the most at peace. And if you're solvent for peace. I've never been more at peace in life when my beliefs that I would project to myself my values and principles match the way I live. I've never been happier than those to be in a line. Guy asked me a question. He says, you know, what's the key to happiness? I said, alignment. Alignment. If you truly live the life that you think is the right life to live based on the values and principles you believe in. Believe in what? What do you. What are you worried about? Like, what do you. What weight are you carrying? You're not. You're living true to yourself and the values and principles. So if you, you, you say you're a Christian, you're going by the values and principles.

[C]

Try to lift P. I actually want to ask you this question on alignment because we've had multiple discussions on air, off air. You know, this whole thing. Cut it off. How do you. What would your be your advice to. For have to people to live with alignment? Because essentially, it's not easy, Adam. That's what I'm saying.

[D]

It's not easy.

[B]

No, it's not. I'm. I'm. Look, I just told you a minute ago. Who buys into the mob? What did I say?

[C]

Everybody 100.

[B]

I'm going to say 80% as if I'm included. Like I'm the smart one. I'm not going to get. No, it's very hard to be aligned. Very. Very hard to be aligned. Very.

[C]

What's step one?

[B]

Just. Just slide into my DMs and look at the type of DMs I'm getting.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

The videos I'm getting.

[C]

Show me, Pat.

[B]

Show me that.

[C]

It's great hanging with you last night.

[B]

Now I don't get DMs from guys telling me last time it was great. But, but, but, but the point I'm trying to tell you is, look, if there comes a time in your life where you know you can be 45. And some may think you're a man, but you're just an old boy. You're not a man. You're a boy. That boy is still in you. You still haven't gotten rid of that boy. Me, me, me, me, me. It's about me. Everything revolves around me. You know that mindset that you have. I don't care how old you are. But then when you become a man to me, man equals responsibilities. Man equals leading. Man equals keeping your word. Man equals people relying on you. Man equals contributing to society. Man equals carrying the burden of a handful of people. You have to. That's our job. Last night, I'm sitting there, Dylan, I sitting there, listening to me. We're talking. I say, you know what it is to be a leader. Leader carries burden. Yesterday, the Dallas Cowboys played Green Bay Packers. And I love what Michael said in the interview. And it was 40. 40. Mike in the interview says, I went to Jordan Love. And I feel bad because he did his part. He put up 40 points of offense. We didn't do our part. This was our loss. And I don't feel good. I don't feel good. I don't feel good. We have to come through. Our quarterback did his part. Our quarterback did his part. It was a great thing to say in the interview, but Micah's carrying burden. That's exactly how you want your best defensive player to interview. Okay? Where he puts the onus on who? On himself. What a thing to say. Where it's always on the other person. It's always on the other side. There's something very attractive about a man wanting more responsibility, but you want to know what it is about wanting more responsibility? You lose 80% of your liberties. You know what I did this weekend? This weekend, I drove 500 miles back and forth to go to soccer tournaments. 500 miles this weekend. Back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. In the sun, in the heat, outside, people have umbrellas. I didn't know you needed umbrellas for suns. But, you know, everybody's carrying. I'm like, not even raining. Why do you have an umbrella? Because the sun will go. Okay, not a bad idea, but it's a burden. So what would I have rather have done this weekend? I had. I'm behind on two books that I want to read. And while we're driving there, I can't even listen to my audiobook because he's reading the book because it's his homework. So I can't play music and I can't play anything. So I turn off the music. And I'm just driving. And the reason why I like driving is I can listen to music. I can listen to audiobook, and I can talk to somebody that's with me. Company, Good conversation. I can't do any of them. So I'm like, boom, there's a, you know, mosquito rock on the windshield. And then you're there. Right. But you know what? It's the greatest burden. Nothing like it. Watching the development of a human being that's relying on you for direction. And he's seen everything that you're doing. There's. There's nothing like it. So you asked the question. I, you know, that's what I would say to you when it comes down to that. Anyways. All right, let's get to, to the next topic here. Next topic. Mayor Adams just dropped out and he said, I quit. I'm done, I'm out of it. And, you know, again, I'm Tom, I'm going to come to you here in a minute. But he ends his reelection bid for New York City mayor. Does he say anything, Rob?

[A]

Yes, this is the announcement last night.

[B]

Okay, go for it. And yet, despite all we've achieved, I.

[C]

Cannot continue my reelection campaign.

[B]

The constant media speculation about my future and the Campaign finance board's decision to withhold millions of dollars have undermined my ability to raise the funds needed for a serious campaign. I hope that over time, New Yorkers will see this city thrive under our leadership and the policies we put in place should be continued and expanded. I hope you will see that despite the headlines and innuendo, I always put you before me. Always. All right, so while that is going on, okay, President Trump tweets something out on Truth Social. Okay, Rob, I don't know if you have that or not. He tweets something on Truth Social that says the following. It says, self proclaimed New York City Mamdani, who is running for mayor, will prove to be one of the best things to ever happen to our great Republican Party, which I agree with. And I said this at Jubilee. I hope he wins. Okay. In a way, purely for the case study, he's going to have problems with Washington like no mayor in the history of our great once great city. Once great city. Remember that he needs money from me as president in order to fulfill all of his fake communist promises. He won't be getting any of it. So what's the point of voting for him? This ideology has failed always for thousands of years and will fail again. And that's guaranteed President djt. By the way, New York City. You know what you may want to look at, for those of you guys that are supporting this guy, look what's going on with the Portland, the highlights that we were watching earlier. Well, what's going on with the streets? He doesn't think those things are any issue. He's not somebody that's sitting there saying, let's go get more cops. You've seen what he's supporting in the past before. Tom, I know you got some polls here you want to share with the rest of us, because I think the average person, Tom, is asking the following question, and I think he got the answer for it. The average person's asking, okay, how big of an impact did this make for Mayor Adams dropping out, that the votes go to Cuomo and what would happen if Sleevo walks out? Okay, would the votes go to Cuomo? Does Cuomo have a chance to beat him? What does Tom Ellsworth say about this?

[A]

Well, what we say about it is there's a lot of polling going on out there, and there's a lot of polling that's being paid for by Mandami and by media organizations. You call up the media organization, hey, ABC New York calling. We need a poll. Quinnia Pack. Yep, we'll get right back to you. And a lot of times the polls are flawed or Quinnipac wants to get business next week and this week, I'm not picking on them. But the way it kind of works is sometimes polls are produced that kind of follow narratives. And what's happening right now, people are saying, what is the net effect on the election? Is this going to help? And right now, Rasmussen, people that I trust and have contact with, they are looking at it and saying, look, you are looking at maybe you have breakage. Remember when RFK this, will people remember so maybe they can identify this. Everybody said, well, if RFK drops out and he's off those ballots, do those votes. Votes go to Trump? Remember that?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And there was about five to seven for rfk, and it was usually four. Two. Four votes for Trump. Two votes would go, no. I liked rfk, but I'm really more left.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

So that's the breakage here. Well, about 70% of this goes to Cuomo, but there is still about 30% that are upset with Cuomo, that have a long memory. And so when you shake it out, you have a two horse race and the Emerson College number here. Not that they are the perfect pollster, but their analysis, their analysis here is me and many other people that are really diving deep into numbers is correct that it's about Mamdani. 7 When you take out, if Sliwa.

[B]

And Adams are out, still wins by seven.

[A]

Still wins by seven. And it's the problem that we showed last time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Where you went down all the groups. Remember you were going down last time on Friday. And you're asking what are you thinking? What are you thinking? What are they thinking? Because there is a breakage for Mamdami and I think it's if Everybody's gone, it's seven. If. If SLI was stays there, it's 14.

[B]

Tom, who's Wick? Who's Wicked? That has Cuomo wins by one.

[D]

It's not John.

[B]

Rob, go up a little bit. Wig Harris. Who are they?

[D]

I. I have.

[A]

I have no idea how the Wick people calculate this.

[B]

Who is Wick, though? I know them. Have you heard of them?

[A]

No, I'm not familiar with them, to be honest.

[B]

And do you know who Harris X is?

[A]

I know who Harris is. I know who American Pulse.

[B]

So who is Harris X? So Harris X, no relation to Kamala, right?

[A]

No, no, no, no, no. What you do is you look at who they vote, who they poll. You look Honan group. Likely voters. Harris registered voters. So when polling goes out, they call people on there. Are you a registered voter? Yes, I am. I'm registered here. And so then they know. Okay, we have a poll of this many registered voters on this side. Other times it's likely voters. Other times they're just dialing and they have a thousand people you don't know. Why is that important? Because let's say 44% are registered Democrats in a certain area and 40% registered Republicans. Everything is independent. You want to have registered voters representing that mix. Otherwise you're just playing into the bias. It's like asking everybody at the Green Bay packers game on the morning of the first game of the season, who's going to win the Super Bowl? 44% people believe packers are going to win the Super Bowl. Of course they do, because you have a bias. And so that's what's going on with a lot of these.

[B]

Adams.

[C]

Well, Eric Adams drops out. So it's now officially a two person race. And, you know, I don't want to be the bearer of bad news. Cuomo, you're not going to win, homie. I wish you had a chance. But the, the voter base in New York City ain't about it. I mean, this is something that Eric Adams said last week. He said a substantial number of Gen Z voters will support the Socialist NYC Mayor Frontware Zormandani and a lot of them are foul mouthed USA hating radicals. The radicalization of the left part of America is real, gentlemen. And they are nasty and they are reminiscent of Russia 100 plus years ago when the Bolshevik army took down the Tsar. Here's some of his quotes right they're nasty. They're us hating radicals. I've never witnessed a more mean and angry nasty electoral season. I go, I leave my church or I'll leave lunch. People are shouting F you Adams. Fu. When you do it in front of children, it says to me that you have no regard for civility and that's associated with living in a city this magnitude. Our children are being radicalized. Our children are starting to hate this city. Not all, but many young people have been radicalized. The radicalization is real. This is just one little anecdote from Mayor Eric Adams. Don't you think the mayor, the current mayor of New York City knows what he's talking about in this regard?

[B]

But do you agree with them?

[C]

Oh yeah. You sat down in front of 20 what I would call leftist radicals in the jubilee debate.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

And everyone gave you immense credit. I can't believe Pat had so much patience. He was so kind. It was so nice. How many of those 20 minds do you think you actually changed?

[B]

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[C]

I hired 10 creatives from all walks of life.

[D]

They will be battling it out to.

[B]

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[D]

This is a huge opportunity.

[B]

This is the battle for the next big idea.

[C]

This is not Play Play.

[D]

We're spending millions of dollars.

[C]

I'm so excited to embark on this adventure with all of you.

[B]

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[B]

Short term or long term?

[C]

Short term and long term.

[B]

Short term. None.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Long term. Three.

[C]

You think so?

[B]

I think so.

[C]

Walk me through why those three people will come to the realization happen to you.

[B]

Life's going to happen to you and. And. And life's going to happen to you. And by the way, generally, the reason why I'm where I'm at in my life is because I believe people can change. I. Even with you, you were very annoying, you know, when I.

[C]

When I appreciate that.

[B]

When I. No, no, but you were, though. You were obnoxious at one point. It was tough to be around. It's like, oh, my God, if I have to hear another thing by this guy about Russia and stuff like this, it was like, overly. But you know what? Deep down inside, I said, I think something's gonna happen with this guy. I think he's gonna figure something out. By the way I was to others. You kidding me? Like, when I was younger, I'm like, what's this guy gonna do with his life? Where's this guy going? When's the guy gonna make a decision to do something with his life? And then I had to go through it. Right? So I'm generally optimistic that some people will change because there's one thing you can never stop at them. You know what that is? Life's gonna happen, man. Yep. And when life happens, you. And you're by yourself alone on your. What are you gonna do when you. When I'm talking, life really happens. Yep. I'm not talking about life happens. When life really happens, what was the reason why you chose to come and live in Addison? Because life really happened.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

Two events simultaneously. Bam. Wake up. And you're like, whoa, what was this all about? Right.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I think when life really happens, some people wake up and some people double down on the victimhood stuff. I do think a few. Those guys will. But going back to the New York thing you're talking about with Adam, saying that if you lived in a city where everywhere you go, someone's like, you mother.

[C]

Piece of shit. Yeah.

[B]

I'd say, you know, you have to be thinking about, like, you either have to know that's the DNA of that city. Like, you know how they say Philadelphia fans, if you play for Philly, like Rob, you know this, Like, Philadelphia fans are.

[C]

Tough crowd.

[B]

Tough crowd. Right. New York, same batteries at Santa Claus. You can go around and say a lot of different things, but those three LA fans are. Believe it or not, LA fans are not la. It's a very different kind of a fan base. Yeah.

[C]

They're fake.

[B]

It's. It's not. You're not wrong. Okay? Like, Tom is a true Dodger fan.

[D]

Real.

[B]

No, real true. It's annoying to be around, but he's a true doctor.

[D]

So annoying.

[B]

You know, like please don't jump by the way. Hey, the Yankees needed Toronto to lose one game to have the buy Tom's smile on his face. You should see the look on his face.

[D]

So happy I can't even hold it in.

[B]

Look at him please turning red. So we, we have a, we have a thing. I don't want any text about baseball from Tom ever until the season is over with and I'm talking playoffs is over. I don't want to hear it because I know deep down inside he's like, well that guy's this and you don't have Cole and you don't have this and you know, so I'm like listen, let the season end and then let's talk baseball. We're planning on watching some baseball this weekend but you know where we're watching it? We go to Dodgers Yankees game in the Yankees get it. Greatest fifth inning in the history of the Yankees. Which you know it's case studies are going to be written about that. 15 right. Movies are going to. There was movies made about serious. There's been, there's been documentaries made about serious Yankees, you know, Boston. But they're going to make a movie and you can make a 12 part documentary series about the fifth inning.

[D]

That's it. And call it the fifth inning.

[C]

Fifth.

[B]

And it would do well. But anyways. Yeah. So I, I can't, I can't imagine that happened in New York being that.

[A]

You'Re the hottest, most balanced team going into the playoffs and, and hats off to a judge.

[B]

That's a real picture. You know what that is by the way in the back, you know who's celebrating? The Dodgers just won. We're in a booth. Him and Sam are celebrating privately with another guy named Greg. The three are just like teamed up. 25 Yankees guys and three Dodgers. We had to have escort the three Dodgers guys out and say listen you guys got to get out of here.

[D]

Little fun fact. Tom actually pooped in his pants right there. He actually let it go.

[C]

Said that's not true by the way.

[D]

By the way.

[A]

It's true by the way.

[C]

Stop it.

[A]

Tom went Aaron Judge, Aaron Judge is your MVP and he just did something that no one's done since Mickey Mantle. Fifty dingers and a batting time.

[B]

But you know what that means. I know you know what that means where it's like they over compliment to.

[D]

Know that you're superstitious.

[B]

Be against. Yeah, that's Tom style.

[D]

We know what you just did but.

[C]

Let me continue can we land this plane?

[B]

No, I don't want to land it.

[D]

I want to get. I want to say.

[C]

We were talking about Eric Adams.

[D]

I want to talk about my body really fast. Go ahead. That so. Well, somehow we talked. Well, no, because I want to get.

[C]

Into the fact that.

[D]

And I know that we're saying like I hope, like we hope New York is strapping in because it looks like it's going to happen. And you know what? You know, remember we talked about the pool of people that look at who they have to choose from. Okay, all due respect, Sleewa, I don't. I really don't know who he is, the guy at the beret, but Eric Adams, look at all the stuff. The sanctuary city and everything that he did. And then Cuomo.

[C]

I mean look at the.

[D]

Just look at what he did with the old people in the nursing home with COVID And it's almost like it's your guys fault that this Mamdani guy is going to have this rise. And guess what? Two days ago a story came out. He pledges to spend. Are you ready New Yorkers? $100 million for free. Lawyers for illegals. For illegals to have lawyers for their immigration, for their deportation. Okay, you're welcome. It's coming and it's coming quick. And did you see the Dearborn? What? You saw this? $100 million of your taxpayer New York money. Bunch of Trump haters.

[C]

Good.

[D]

That is coming. You're going to pay for the rest of the illegals because you know what that's saying. I want illegals to stay here. I love illegals. Not, not the actual citizens. That crime is up and all this shit that's happening. Sorry for my language, but this is what you're going to get. And you know what happens when that happens. The defund the police attitude. All that stuff he's going to get like, what's happening in Dearborn? Did you see the police chief in Dearborn? Did you guys see this guy? Show me if you don't mind. Police chief, the police. Let me get his actual name.

[B]

I'm going to get a guy.

[D]

His name is Police Chief Issa Shaheen. He's standing in front of a Lebanese flag. He praises his Arab American police force celebrating hijabs in the justice system. And just listen what he says with the Alhamdulillah. This isn't America. Just letting you guys know. Go ahead.

[A]

When I joined the department, Dearborn's Arab American population was nearly 50%, yet less than 3% of our police. Now a department that reflects and embraces the community it serves. With 45% of our Arab. Our officers being Arab American.

[D]

It's coming. Guys. Guys, it's. And guess what, Mamdani, Strap in.

[B]

And guess what?

[D]

Strap in.

[B]

We should do a podcast in Dearborn.

[D]

Let's do it.

[B]

Can you run it? Can you run a poll? Rob, can you run a poll? No. No. You know what I want the poll to be? If we were to run a podcast in Dearborn, like Detroit, Dearborn, Michigan, would you fly out to come to the podcast if we were to find a hotel? Because I know would be ruckus. 44% are air.

[D]

And you know what's happening.

[B]

Just run that poll, folks. I just want to know if we get 2000 crazy America loving people patriots in the same place, would I want military guys to show up? Vets, Air Force, Harley Davidson. Bring them all, baby. Right?

[D]

And did you do a podcast?

[B]

And we podcast in Dearborn and we talk about how awesome America is. Right?

[D]

Oh my goodness.

[B]

I think, actually I'm curious to know what that poll. I'm sure my wife is excited about this announcement.

[D]

We'd have to get crazy security. But I just want you guys to know because the citizens are complaining. They're having. Mosques are doing their call to prayer at like 5 or, I don't know, 6 o' clock in the morning. And this is what's happening in Dearborn, New York. Are you ready for this? Go ahead. Look, this is in America. Five o'.

[B]

Clock.

[D]

What time is this? Some lady complained that it was five o' clock in the morning and they're going to the city and it's.

[A]

Yeah, they have a horn, they blow and then there's. That happens like a canter that sings.

[D]

Like, listen, like, dude, I'd be like, what?

[C]

That's actually my alarm. Alarm clock I wake up to every day.

[B]

Guys, I don't see the problem. Very weird. I grew up in Iran. I would hear this all the time. And there are some guys that sing this song with the most incredible voice. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. 5:00am 5:00am in America. In America. No, in America. And I'm a guy. I'm a reasonable guy. I. It's just such a beautiful song if it's sang by the right people. But not 5am not an American, not a profile.

[D]

Sorry, guys.

[B]

What's this? What's this, Rob?

[C]

This is a video of four, I.

[A]

Believe it's a former Islamist.

[B]

I got it. Yeah, go for it.

[D]

When I was an extremist Islamist fundamentalist, I Would only vote left.

[B]

Why is that?

[D]

I saw them as very stupid. I would fear the conservatives because they come with principle that not someone they can brainwash, but the left, I know they have no value and no principles to begin with. I dare you to find one Islamic extremist that votes for Donald Trump. Never do it. They'd give their vote to the leftist who wants to run around in. In pride parades and Islamic instruments are against gays and homosexuals and transgenders. But they want the left to go and get busy with that. They want them to go, go, go. Speak about the climate. Go, go, go. Speak about abortion. Go, go kill yourselves. Go, go do that. And Omar, she's fighting for abortion rights and all the other. My body, my choice. Yes, go do that.

[C]

Go do that.

[D]

But would she have an abortion?

[C]

Never.

[D]

Never weird.

[B]

Never Weird.

[D]

Would she kill a Muslim in her stomach?

[C]

Never.

[D]

What is the fundamentalist and jihadi agenda for America? The future of America has to be Muslim.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Wow.

[D]

Would you say, Adam, when they say it, believe them.

[C]

When they tell you who they are, believe them.

[A]

There is a simple reality in terms of a caliphate and a whole war of extermination. The liberal dies last, and the first will be the Jews. Second will be the Christians. In some cases, the Christians, they go after them first because they're protecting the Jews. That's the way it's been. The fundamentalist Christians that protect Jewish people. I'm not talking about Israel as a nation. I'm talking about Jewish people. And then you get around to. And now for you. Well, wait a minute. I was with you, man. I gave you your freedom. I said you had the right to free speech. You had the right to say what you wanted. And you said things about Christians and Jews. Maybe thought you were a little extreme or a little crazy, but said that. No, no, no, you don't understand. It says you. I says, are you coming with me? No, no. I believe this, this, this, and no. Well, now you are the infidel. And the liberal needs to understand. The liberal dies last.

[B]

Nobody cares about that. You know why, Tom? It's kind of like why some people eat as bad as they do until they have a heart attack. You ever wonder, Like, I read a book by John Maxwell, one of his books, it could have been 15. Invaluable loss of growth. And he talks about what happened after he had a heart attack, how bad he was eating and how quickly he changed his diet because he was thinking about his kids, grandkids, all that stuff, Right? Most people don't think it's going to happen to them. Most people don't think cancer is going to happen to them. Most people don't think any of that stuff's going to happen to them. Like, no, it's other people. It's never me. It's never me. It's never me. And then it's you. And it's like, oh, shit, I never knew it was going to be me. Well, that's kind of how life works. So I don't think that ever does anything to them. Even though you're right, they are going to be last and they're still going to get them as well. They still won't. That's not going to move them. They won't sit there and be like, because of that, I'm going to change. Nope.

[C]

Can I add one thing?

[B]

They have a massive blind spot. Tom, go ahead.

[C]

Can you show that that police chief again, this is not the angle you think I'm going to take here. This gentleman right here who's saying that, you know, when he started with the police force to only 3% of the police force in a 50% Muslim community or police, but now it's up to 45%. I'm actually happy he talked about this because we need more reasonable Muslims who are policing their own people. Just like we need Christians policing their own people. Jews policing their own people. Republicans, Democrats. We need more people saying, no, guys, if you love America, appreciate America. Be a part of the American melting pot. We're here for it. We need those people, those police officers, to vet out the radicals. How else are we going to find the radicals in the mosques or the radicals in the churches? The radicals in the temples? Not that there's many of those, but how else are we going to find those people? And we need to bring them back into the fold. Creating enemies within America is very problematic. So I would encourage all my Muslim friends. You saw the video I did in Detroit, right? When at the airport, when they're all masked up. Why was I in Detroit? My grandma's from Detroit, my dad's from Detroit. I have friends in Detroit. I have Jewish friends in Detroit. I have Muslim friends in Detroit. Huge Chaldean community, which is basically like the Assyrian community, huge black community. If you love America and you're here for America, we have open arms for you. But if you're here actively plotting against America, that's the problem that people have. So when you see these clerics being.

[D]

Like, we need to bring down America.

[C]

And burn down America, that's the people we need to investigate. This is uncalled for.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Burning of the flags. Exactly.

[B]

Can a Christian or a Jew run for office in a Muslim country?

[C]

No.

[A]

No.

[B]

Interesting.

[D]

Weird.

[C]

That question alone, definitely not a Jew.

[B]

That question alone, yeah.

[C]

There is a double standard. You're absolutely right.

[A]

Can a gay person hold a pride parade in Gaza or is it just fashionable to say, you know, gays for.

[C]

Gaza, where's your Palestine chickens for kfc?

[B]

They'll meet their maker within.

[A]

That's exactly. You can't get a permit, but if you want to self organize, you're going to self exterminate.

[C]

You bring up the point, Pat, that that's exactly what it is, is that they can do whatever they want. Anyone can do whatever they want here in America, but in other countries with it. That's not how it works.

[A]

And when they think, you know, there's.

[C]

The queers for Palestine chickens for kfc.

[A]

Adam, how some of our young people think that the rest of the world is really just like us.

[C]

Well, and I can just go over.

[A]

There and I can do this. But if they went over there, they would have drum solos played on their head.

[C]

That's true. You. The one problem that you're wrong with, Tom, is that you said, isn't it interesting that they think. They don't think. They're just. It's raw emotion.

[A]

Yeah. The emotional.

[C]

You know what happens when you assume.

[B]

A couple other stories. I want to make an ass. Let me go to this one here. Trump to declassify Amelia Earhart Hart's records. Okay, I know, Vinnie, you got a lot of. You want to talk about this one here. So. President Donald Trump announced Friday on truth Social ordinance administration to classify and release all government records regarding trailblazing aviator Melia Earhart who mysteriously disappeared during a flight over Pacific Ocean 1937. 1932. Mariel Hart became the first woman and the second person in history after Charles Lindbergh to fly solo non stop across the Atlantic Ocean. Just five years later at the age of 39, she vanished without a trace during an attempt to circumnavigate the globe, raising a range of possible explanations to conspiracy theories. I'm ordering my administration to declassify or release all the government records related to Amelia Earhart, her final trip and to everything else about her. President Trump wrote on a post. You know, is this the one, Rob? Yes, in particular her fatal flight. She was an aviation pioneer. The first one fly to. She disappeared in South Ocean while trying to become the first one fly around the Melville Woodsman almost three quarters around the world. And she suddenly, without notice, vanished, never to be seen again. Her disappearance almost 90 years ago has captivated millions. I'm ordering my administration to declassify it. So, Vinny, why are you so interested in this?

[D]

Oh, man, I was up all night. You know why? I was wondering, who gives. I'm sorry, with all due respect, who gives a damn about, like. Are you serious?

[B]

Family members, too?

[D]

Yeah. Yeah. Are they alive? Are any of them alive? I don't need the Earnhardt.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[D]

Unless, by the way. Unless the files show that she was abducted by aliens or the government has her locked up in a bunker somewhere. At this point, who cares? Okay? This isn't 1937 trivia night. It's 2025. All right, the. How about this? The Epstein files, all right, the way that the entire case is still ongoing, being handled. I know we have some stuff about Elon, and Elon's comments and him being implicated. And then how about this? Charlie Kirk's assassination. That's where real accountability is right now. I don't like. This is where. I don't like. Who cares? There's so much happening right now. I think this is one of those shiny objects in the air. Look over here and don't look over there. And we've seen this before. Big announcement, big. A lot of headlines. And then all the stuff that really impacts power and corruption, that. That's the stuff that gets buried. Okay, Keep focus on what's happening right now. What affects people right now. Not a mystery from 90 years ago. What?

[C]

This is just funny that this is what we're talking about.

[D]

What isn't it true?

[C]

Because you're like, guys, who cares about the Amelia Earhart story? It's irrelevant. Hey, Viddy, want to talk about today? So, Amelia Earhart. Why are we focusing?

[D]

Well, that was a story. Why are we giving this attention?

[C]

Why do we need more oxygen on this story? Nobody cares about Amelia.

[D]

Here we go.

[C]

Hey, Vinny, let's talk about this.

[D]

Adam, the President of the United States says he goes, imagine by many, many people. I want to know who the hell went up to President Trump. It was probably some like 100 year.

[C]

Old woman fell for it.

[D]

No, I did not fall for it. No, I didn't.

[C]

We should have never talked about.

[D]

No, no, no, no, no.

[C]

Me and Vincent.

[D]

No.

[C]

Aren't going to be friends.

[D]

Attention.

[C]

Because we're fighting about the greatest female aviator of all time, Amir Airhart. Lack of care. I'm bringing it.

[D]

Guess what? I'm.

[C]

The Earhart family's discussion.

[A]

I Think everybody wants to know what happened to her, but it's not like a great government conspiracy.

[C]

She wasn't when she went missing.

[D]

Where were you on that weapon?

[C]

When she went missing, where were you?

[D]

Rob, I sent you another clip of the construction of Charlie Kirk.

[A]

I came out of the bathroom, I grabbed some lunch, I sat down, and they were like, what is this?

[D]

You don't have to play the music, but this is what I'm more important about. They're doing construction where Charlie. Where Charlie was assassinated. They're literally. Play this, Rob. They're digging up everything. Everything is going. Doing construction. What are the odds that we're one of the biggest assassinations in the history of the country of a political figure and they're doing construction everywhere. On the top.

[C]

You're basically saying, don't focus on her, focus.

[D]

This is what we.

[C]

I mean, we're using the American.

[D]

Because I'm going to say as a cudgel to bring up Trump occur.

[C]

This is. We could have just. Just everything.

[D]

No, no, because everything is on purpose. The fact that Charlie was assassinated less than two weeks ago, and there is so many unanswered questions, and then the attitudes of other people. We weren't even three days after he passed away, and people were like, this is what's happening with Turning Point. And this. Who gives. Sorry. Who gives a damn about all that? Who shot Charlie Kirk? The official narrative. Nobody's believing it, okay? They've been blowing smoke up. Up our butts for how many days now? It's unbelievable, the unanswered questions. It's unbelievable, the Epstein stuff. And the President wants us to talk about Amelia Earhart. No, bro, I'm so. Adam, you missing the whole point. Why would the President bring it up? Yeah. For other people that are like, wow, here's my question, Adam. Who in their right mind right now is like this? Whoa, finally. Emilio.

[B]

You know what he's saying?

[D]

Emilio?

[B]

By the way, we keep saying Earnhardt. That's the driver. This is Earhart, guys. We have to get it right. She did not drive.

[D]

She flew planes.

[B]

She's not a driver. She was. She was. She was a pilot. Adam, go ahead. What did.

[C]

What were you saying?

[B]

Were you going to say anything?

[C]

You were about to say something?

[B]

No, no, I was going to say. I think what he's trying to say is this is a way to distract you from other issues that are going on. That's what he's trying to say. Is that what you're trying to say?

[D]

I'm pointing out that he's Trying to distract.

[A]

Because what are you going to do? Solve the this. In 1971, my great grandfather disappeared when he was 3/4 away. The garage for sure.

[B]

Can someone help Mr. Wikwiki. The glasses. Right. Because these all have wiki which he was trying to sell for a couple hundred dollars. But no, I get what you're saying to me.

[D]

Let's talk about Bigfoot.

[B]

No, no, no. When it comes out to the. When it comes down to the Kirk.

[D]

Shooting, like that's what I care about. Like what do we.

[B]

I have some very weird speculation.

[D]

I have to talk to you. We're talking after. Can we talk after?

[C]

What do you mean?

[D]

Yeah, no, you're gonna hear it, Mr. Wick. Wiki.

[C]

Yeah, what do you want to bring it to?

[D]

No, we're not talking about it.

[A]

I think Pat and I are quiet. Very quietly on the same page.

[D]

Look at that face. I can't wait to hear about this.

[B]

Is this.

[C]

Is this Amelia Earhart story here planted.

[B]

We're gonna skip to skip and see what happens next.

[C]

No, man, stay tuned.

[B]

We're gonna skip and see what happens next. We're going to skip el Skipo. But it's very annoying to say the least that nothing's adding up with. With Kirk's situation. Nothing. It's very annoying. Next story. Netanyahu faces walk out at UN after a boss receives applause. Okay, Rob, I think you have the clip. If you want to play this clip, it's on page function 15. Okay, that's German.

[C]

Go ahead.

[A]

Hey, very good.

[F]

Motivated and he will take the speech.

[D]

We will listen to it here and.

[F]

We'Ll have analysis for you on the other side.

[B]

They're walking out with Bibi hitting the stage. Please order in the hall.

[D]

Which countries are these? These are all countries. People that represent countries.

[B]

Please order in the hall. Anybody that's against bb, they're walking out. So these could be Muslim countries.

[F]

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[B]

Okay, you can pause it right there. So Netanyahu declared in his address to the United Nations General Assembly Friday that the long suffering Iran people will regain their freedom and make Iran great again. Predicting that the Middle east will look dramatically different in the years ahead, Netanyahu tend tightest remarks is to Israel, Israel's recent battle for victories over Iran's terror axis, arguing that those wins have opened unprecedented possibilities for peace across the region, including with former enemies once considered beyond reach. Many of those who wage war on Israel today will be gone tomorrow. Brave peacemakers will take their place to he told world leaders. Israeli leaders directly addressed Iran, stressing that its citizen would ultimately free themselves from Ayatollah's grip. Nowhere will this be more true than in Iran. The long suffering Iranian people will regain their freedom. They will make Iran great again, Netanyahu declared, a phrase echo the slogan familiar to many in the hall. Netanyahu framed Israel's strength to the grand guarantor of such a Future, describing how October 7th and its aftermath underscored the Jewish state's resolve to fight back against enemies that once thought Jewish blood would be shed with impunity could be shared with impunity. Adam.

[C]

Well look, I'm going to share some stats with you here. And look, you can critique what's going on in Israel, you can critique the war in Gaza. But I'll ask you a serious question, everybody out there, what are the countries with the worst human rights abuses in the world? What countries do you think are on that list? Have you seen this number? Vinny? Don't look at this, don't look at this, don't look at this. What countries would you say are the top three countries where it's like human rights. The UN should condemn this country. What first three countries that come to mind?

[D]

Well wait, hold on. You're saying like first three countries that.

[C]

Come to write human rights abuses just.

[D]

I would say somewhere in the Middle East. That's good, that's.

[A]

Mine.

[C]

So but you're gonna go, so look at these numbers right here of what's going on on the UN condemnation. So North Korea. This is when the UN General assembly condemns a Country. You're doing this wrong. You're doing this wrong. You're doing this wrong. North Korea, 10. Afghanistan, 1. Venezuela 0. Myanmar, 9. You go all the way down the list. Hamas, 0. Russia, 29. That's the second highest in the list. China, 0. Condemnations. Cuba, 0. Syria, where they killed a million Syrians, 10. Iran, 10. Israel 173. So what does this show you, this stat, this hypocrisy to the highest level. If you add up all the condemnations that happened at the UN where Benjamin Netanyahu was speaking, the entire world according to the UN is not bad as Israel. So when you want to see that Jews are like, what are you talking about? Israelis, what are you talking about? This isn't fair. We're being condemned. Every single country in the world, including North Korea, including China, including the countries with the worst human rights abuses, they don't equal the small country of Israel. So to say that there's a double standard, it would be.

[B]

Help me understand what this means.

[D]

Yeah, I was just gonna say what's the ung. What does it mean?

[B]

What does this poll mean? What does this poll mean, Rob?

[A]

I'm not sure. Adam sent me this. So this is.

[B]

What does this poll mean?

[A]

Unga, I believe, is UN General assembly. And I'm looking.

[C]

Google something.

[A]

You're. I want to look up what is a condemnation.

[C]

While you're looking. While you're looking at.

[A]

Up by the General assembly.

[C]

If you ask me, is it disrespectful to walk out when a world leader is speaking? Yes.

[B]

US Condemnations refer to a formal declaration by the United nations that disapprove of specific actions or policies of a member state or entity. These declarations, primarily through General assembly resolutions and Security Council decisions, signal a collective stance against violations of international law or peace through. Though General assembly resolutions are often non binding recommendations, the UN has issued condemnations for a range of actions, including those related to international conflict, human rights abuses, terrorism, and illegal acquisition of territory. Go back to that list again. Rob of who he has. US was at 11 and Pakistan was at 0.

[C]

Saudis at 0.

[B]

Hamas at 0.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[D]

That doesn't make sense.

[B]

Wait, Hamas is at zero?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Afghanistan is at one, Turkey's at zero, China's at zero.

[C]

Oh, yeah, they're all lovely people there. There's nothing wrong.

[B]

Cuba's at zero, Iraq's at zero.

[C]

Nothing wrong going on in Venezuela.

[B]

The US is more than Iran.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Okay, then this lost credibility.

[C]

This is the UN though. This is why Trump gets up on stage and says you're supposed to be solving problems, but you're provoking problems and exacerbating problems. This is why Trump's speech at the UN was so important, which I called it the most important speech in our lifetime, respectfully. It's because he sees what's going on in the world and it doesn't make sense. So who are the people walking out when Benjamin Netanyahu is speaking? And you can be as critical as you want as Benjamin Netanyahu because half of Israel, it doesn't support the right wing government in Israel. But you have African strong men, you have literally Middle Eastern Arab Muslim terrorists, former Al Qaeda terrorists who are now running Syria walking out. You have Latin American communists. So the people who are actually committing the human rights abuses are walking out as Benjamin Netanyahu is on stage. And again, I can say this again, you can be completely critical of Netanyahu and what they're doing in Gaza. But the, the hypocrisy that the entire world, if you add up the entire world condemnation, does not equal what's going on in Israel. That's the problem is that it's absolutely absurd on its face. Yeah, tell me. Listen, maybe I'm completely wrong.

[D]

No, I mean that's a real list. If that's a real list that they actually have from 2015 to 2025, it's ridiculous because yes, Israel people are a lot of us, me included, criticizing what they're doing, but that's 173 to 00. China, Qatar, Saudi, Cuba.

[C]

No.

[D]

And not our 11. I'm curious to what R11 is now.

[B]

What I'm. They have us at 11 and us at Iran at 10.

[D]

Yeah, come on, stop it, stop it.

[B]

Tom, how do you process this?

[A]

Well, there's two parts of the un There's UN Security Council and the UN General Assembly. The way I process it is on its face, this is ridiculous. And it just shows you how the UN, you know, self managed gets nowhere fast. And I look at this and I'm like, I'm going to go look this up. I'm going to look up all 173. That's what I'm going to do. And I'm going to go get smart about this because I know when it comes to the UN Security Council, that's different. That is a small group of the most powerful countries. And frequently, you know, Russia won't vote this way, the US won't vote that way. And it's kind of a stalemate, Pat. You know, I mean they, it's like let's universe. But when the UN Security Council manages the vote in unison, usually you're going to go see some action and stuff. But I, I think this is, this is ridiculous. Israel, 173. I want to see what those 173 things are.

[B]

Yeah, let's get smarter. Less. I mean, always says so. Yeah. To me, it's just, it's just weird when, when you put a number like this and it's causing others to react to it. Adam, you were going to say.

[C]

I just want to say again, I'm not even. I'm just coming from a pure data standpoint, the way that you can tell how bad a regime is or a bad a country is. Okay, sure. You're going to wage war. Okay. Putin is attacking Ukraine. Okay. Israel, Hanamas. Okay, you know what was it? India, Pakistan, you're fighting with your neighbors. What was the other. It was Myanmar versus Cambodia. I'm sorry, it was Thailand, I think it's called versus Cambodia. Point is, you're attacking other countries. The real test of a regime is how you treat your own people. Now, what you want to say about. You can say what you want about Benjamin Netanyahu is not they're killing Israelis, but in Iran, in North Korea, in Venezuela, you're suppressing your own people. I mean, we've seen what people say in Iran. Tell me what the Ayatollah and the IRGC does to their own people in Iran, Pat. I mean, you could spend 10 hours on this. But how do they treat their own people?

[B]

I'd like to add two more stores.

[C]

They hang them up. What do they do?

[B]

It's horrible. Yeah, they let. The article was written last year about number of hangings Iran did in one year. And you see the numbers. Lithium Americans. Lithium Americas shares surged 90% as Trump request stakeholders. This is a story by Forbes. Tom, I'm going to come to you with this one real quick. I'm not coming to anybody else on this one. But Tom, I'm only you. Shares of lithium Erica's have rallied 97 on Wednesday after the Trump administration said it would seek a stake in Canadian mining firm as it negotiates a multi billion dollar loan with the Energy Department, a deal involving the largest lithium Source in the U.S. lithium America stock soared 97% to Iran $6, nearly doubling the firm's market cap from 674 million to 1.32 million. $32 billion. Trump administration has requested an equity stake in Lithium Americas as it renegotiates a $2.2 billion loan with the Energy Department for its Thacker Pass mine in Nevada, A White House official told Forbes. Rob, go and play this clip.

[F]

Shares of Lithium Americas more than doubled Wednesday morning after Reuters reported that the Trump administration is seeking up to a 10% stake in. It's the latest sign of Washington's intervention into industries it considers critical to national security. Late Tuesday, Reuters reported the proposed stake was part of negotiations over a nearly $2.3 billion loan from the U.S. department of Energy for the company's Thacker Pass lithium project. Located in Nevada, Thacker Pass is the largest planned lithium mine in the Western Hemisphere. Canada based Lithium Americas said on Wednesday it was in discussions with the U.S. energy Department and General Motors over the loan. GM has a 38% stake in Thacker Pass. The move underscores President Trump's increasing use of direct government ownership to steer strategic sectors and curb reliance on China, which dominates refining of many critical minerals. Thacker Pass is seen as a linchpin in building a domestic supply chain, part of Washington's long standing drive to boost US Production of lithium, a metal used to make batteries for electric vehicles and other electronics.

[B]

Let's pause it right there, Tom. Tom, go for it.

[A]

This is our president trying to keep a promise and trying to keep working on the critical minerals we need. Where did he start first? Ukraine. He said, zelensky, let's make a deal for minerals in exchange for some relief aid. But we gotta get this war stopped, right? We gotta bring this to a stop. Remember that? Then he goes to Greenland. And then Don Jr. And Charlie Crook, by the way, all went on this big, you know, group of people that went to Greenland to talk about Greenland, about minerals, because he is trying to not just do it for today. He is actually trying to play a little of the long game. And this, what they're doing with Biden, gave a small government loan to this company. I shouldn't say small, it was real, but they need to refinance it. And so Trump is saying, look, if you're going to get a $2.26 million loan from the government, you know, we got to take maybe a piece in the company, which I don't necessarily agree with, but he's trying to make it pat, like a collateral on the loan. Like, you can't just ask the taxpayers to give you $2.6 billion of the collateral. However, I will say this. We need lithium for, for up to 800,000 EVs a year. And I don't want us to be screwed out of lithium. So I'll tell You what? I'm still working with Greenland on a deal, but now I'm going to help you guys with this loan because we have to support ourselves and not be hog tied by China on precious metals. So this is Trump in the middle of everything else that's going on. Pat still out there trying to do the very thing he was doing on day one with EVs. And this is before, you know, Elon Musk and Doge went away. Oh, he was only doing that to help Elon. No, he wasn't. General Motors actually also has a stake in this. And this is Trump trying to help.

[B]

Does it concern you that the government keeps buying out companies and investing to companies?

[A]

I do not like the. I do not like that.

[B]

Why don't you like it?

[A]

Because this is, in this case, this is collateral. And what is the collateral? Dirt and a mine. Okay, we can take it back and then we can sell it to somebody else. But I don't like direct investment like what he's doing with Intel. I'd rather Microsoft, I mean, Apple almost died. Microsoft helped. I think you let the market determine just like that. It's different for Trump to say, you know what, I think we should have a chip program in the US People are trying to build factories. You know, let's help them. Let's get them some. You know, maybe we help them get them land and stuff, but you guys need to work together. Nvidia, how nice of you. You want to do this with Intel. I think that's great. I wish he would do that. I don't like the. And give me a piece of the deal in intel to hold that, because I think that's bad, because I don't think he's going to do anything nefarious with it. But if the government owns these pieces, future administrations can. And I just do not think in a capitalist system, freedom to try, freedom to succeed, freedom to fail. And I don't think that should come with. Unless you get a safety net with the US Government because they own a piece. And then what if somebody in the future is out competing Intel? What if Tico grows up and builds a company that's out competing with intel and all of a sudden there's legislation between two companies. Who's the government gonna favor? Tico or the company they got 10% of? That's dangerous. We need an impartial government on that day to say, hey, it's a capitalist system and if you guys wanna go to court, sue each other. That's what our courts are for. But I don't like it. That part I do not like. I do like Trump is trying to find ways to establish mineral independence and get these precious minerals that we need, these rare earth minerals so that we don't get screwed by China. That part's a good thing.

[B]

I agree. Fantastic gang. The we are at the end of the podcast I got back to back to it's my Monday. Mondays for me are the craziest days that I got to go to get to all these meetings. But we will do this again on Wednesday. Home team if you have any follow up questions, anything that we discussed today, feel free to connect anybody any one of the guys on the crew here. And also aside from that, if you haven't yet had a chance to order Faith Over Fear and you still would like to, I would go to vtmerch.com you will see it right on the COVID of it to order your Faith Over Fear merch. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye bye.