Rita Panahi: Inside Iran’s Regime Crisis | PBD #756

Summary

PBD Podcast #756 | Rita Panahi: Iran War, Sharia Law & Soccer Team Asylum
Date: March 10, 2026
Host: Patrick Bet-David (PBD)
Guest: Rita Panahi

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Episode Overview

This episode of the PBD Podcast features Rita Panahi—Australian journalist, commentator, and host of the hit show "Leftists Losing It"—for an in-depth discussion on the current crisis in Iran, the impact of Sharia law, the plight of Iranian women’s rights, and the high-profile asylum of Iran’s women’s soccer team in Australia. Panahi shares personal stories as an Iranian exile, offers reflections on Western reactions to Islamist regimes, and explores wider political issues affecting both Australia and the United States. Real-world examples, current events, and cross-continental perspectives make this a compelling must-hear for anyone interested in geopolitics, human rights, and social commentary.

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Major Themes and Key Insights

1. Rita Panahi’s Background & Family History

• Exile Story: Born in Pine Bluff, Arkansas to Iranian parents, Panahi’s family returned to Iran pre-revolution. Following the 1979 Islamic Revolution, her family escaped persecution and were granted asylum in Australia ([00:54-01:22]).
• Memories of Iran: Firsthand account of schooling under Sharia law, including forced hijab and chanting "Death to America" as a child, highlighting the regime’s indoctrination and women’s oppression ([02:40-03:15]).
  • Quote: “[In school] we were taught to chant Death to America at assembly every morning... happier memories in Australia.” — Rita Panahi, [02:40]

2. The Importance of the Iranian Crisis Worldwide

• Why the World Should Care:
  • Iranian regime exports terrorism and has plotted attacks beyond its borders.
  • Most Iranians are oppressed by a regime they did not choose ([03:45-07:45]).
  • Panahi distinguishes Persians from the broader Arab world, emphasizing Iran's secular, pre-Islamic history.
  • Quote: “If given the chance, a free Iran would be a wonderful ally for the West... there’s a lot of lessons to be learned out of Iran which are particularly noteworthy today.” — Rita Panahi, [07:34]
• Coalitions and Perils of Ignoring History:
  • Unholy alliances between leftists and Islamists; warnings about Western leftists supporting anti-Western regimes ([03:45-07:45]).

3. Iranian Women’s Soccer Team: Asylum in Australia

• Refusal to Sing National Anthem:
  • Iranian women’s team refused to sing the national anthem at a match in Australia; regime called it “highest order of treason” ([09:41-11:23]).
• Asylum Drama:
  • Five players sought asylum; promptly removed their hijabs in photo ops, signaling a desire for freedom.
    • Quote: “Every single woman had the hijab off. So it just shows you—this is something that’s forced upon women.” — Rita Panahi, [11:29]
  • Fear remains for those unable to approach authorities, given handlers’ control and regime’s intimidation tactics ([11:29-13:45]).
• Potential Consequences Back Home:
  • Returns mean risk of torture, imprisonment, or even “forced propaganda confessions” ([13:46-14:48]).

4. Nature and Resilience of the Iranian Regime

• Extreme Brutality as Power Retention:
  • The regime violently stamps out protests; mass killings and severe penalties deter resistance ([21:38-23:09]).
  • Quote: “That takes a lot to go out onto the streets knowing you could be shot dead… What we see in Iran, that's real courage.” — Rita Panahi, [23:09]
• Generational Hope and Skepticism:
  • Despite weakness, regime may yet survive; hope exists for regime’s fall, but with fear of yet another crackdown ([37:53-38:53]).

5. Western Feminism and Double Standards

• Selective Solidarity:
  • Panahi criticizes Western feminists for silence on oppression of Iranian (and other Muslim-world) women, while quick to protest for other causes ([24:33-27:41]).
  • Quote: “I absolutely disgusted by the modern feminist movement that have abandoned women living under Shariah law.” — Rita Panahi, [24:33]
• Unholy Alliance:
  • Identifies alliance between far-left Western groups and Islamists, united mainly by hostility to Western values.

6. Islamism, Assimilation, and Western Values

• Danger of Appeasement:
  • Discusses Molenbeek (Belgium) as jihadist hub due to Western appeasement ([29:24-31:02]).
  • Advocates for assimilation and rejects the notion that “all cultures are equal” ([31:02-32:00]).
    • Quote: “All cultures are not equal. Anyone who pretends otherwise is either dumb or lying.” — Rita Panahi, [31:51]
• Demographic and Ideological Threats to the West:
  • Islamism’s spread in the West potentially outpacing communism’s influence, enabled by demographic shifts and institutional takeover ([50:51-53:53]).

7. Australia’s Political Landscape & Voting System

• Preferential/Compulsory Voting:
  • Australia mandates voting and uses preferential ballots, leading to “donkey votes” and unintended outcomes ([55:35-59:10]).
• Surge of Right-Wing Movements:
  • Rise of One Nation as response to milquetoast conservatism.

8. Free Speech, Social Media, and Censorship

• Julie Inman Grant and the E-Safety Commissioner:
  • Panahi criticizes the Australian online regulator, calling out alleged overreach, censorship, and lack of robust free speech protections ([69:41-76:08]).
• Contrast with U.S. First Amendment:
  • Notes that, unlike America, Australians lack absolute free speech protection—public figures regularly targeted via lawfare.

9. U.S. Voter ID & Immigration Policy

• Overwhelming Support for Voter ID:
  • Panahi and PBD explore polling, noting even Democratic voters prefer voter ID despite politicized accusations of racism ([60:53-63:36]).
  • Quote: “Why would [Democrats] take a position that is so unpopular? They're not dumb, they're liars. There's a difference.” — Rita Panahi, [65:12]
• Shift of Hispanic/Asian Migrant Support:
  • Migrant support for the American right is growing due to shared traditional values ([66:26-67:58]).

10. Geopolitics: Iran, Islamism vs. Communism, and the Role of the West

• Potential for Iranian Regime’s Fall:
  • Discussion of American policy, Reza Pahlavi as possible interim leader, but skepticism about anyone from inside the regime being trustworthy ([43:13-46:20]).
• China’s Role, Strait of Hormuz, and Global Oil:
  • PBD and Panahi discuss Trump's moves to keep energy supply open and counter China’s ambitions ([116:15-118:27]).

11. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Facing the Regime:
  “If you’re arrested, the consequences are catastrophic for you and your family. So that takes a lot, takes a lot to protest in a country like Iran.” — Rita Panahi, [23:09]
• On Western Feminism:
  “The feminist movement... is a leftist movement that is anti Western civilization. That's what it’s morphed into, sadly.” — Rita Panahi, [25:15]
• On Cultural Relativism:
  “All cultures are not equal. And anyone who pretends otherwise is either dumb or lying.” — Rita Panahi, [31:51]
• On Social Media Bans:
  “She tried to get that removed from the entire Internet, not just from Australia, but from around the world. So Elon Musk actually took her to court and ended up winning...” — Rita Panahi, [71:13]
• On Voter ID Debate:
  “Why would they stand against a policy where more than 70% of their voters are pro voter ID, where over 80% of the general population wants it? You would only do it if there’s some benefit in not having voter ID, which is you’re cheating.” — Rita Panahi, [65:12]

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Key Timestamps

| Time | Segment | |-----------|-----------------------------------------------------------| | 00:54 | Rita’s exile story, early family history | | 02:40 | School life under Sharia (forced hijab, indoctrination) | | 03:45 | Why Iran matters globally; regime’s uniqueness | | 09:41 | Iran’s women’s soccer team—anthem protest & crackdown | | 11:29 | Asylum granted to players; symbolic removal of hijab | | 13:46 | Fears for returning players; regime’s tactics | | 21:38 | How does the regime survive? Extreme brutality | | 24:33 | Feminists’ silence, selective outrage | | 31:02 | Islamism vs. assimilation, Western values | | 50:51 | Islamism vs. Communism as threats to the West | | 55:35 | Australia’s voting system, compulsory participation | | 69:41 | Esafety Commissioner, online censorship in Australia | | 60:53 | Voter ID support in the US; polling & partisanship | | 116:06 | Trump on Strait of Hormuz and energy strategy | | 110:59 | Shocking Pakistani court ruling on child marriage |

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Additional Noteworthy Moments

• Personal Reflections: Panahi shares fears and hopes for a return to Iran, the impossibility of visiting while the regime still stands ([38:53-39:10]).
• Political Satire: Use of mockery as a tool for social commentary; critique of American, Australian, and Western media ([08:14-09:36]).
• Realpolitik on Iran’s Future: Debate on legitimacy and risks of different post-revolution governance models ([43:13-46:42]).
• Life in Australia: Exploration of housing prices, quality of life, COVID-19 policies, and political engagement ([80:03-84:44]).

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Overall Tone

The conversation is incisive, candid, and at points humorous and biting—true to both PBD’s and Panahi’s signature style. Panahi is frank in her criticisms of Western left-wing politics, Islamist regimes, and institutional failures, and compelling in her storytelling both as a survivor of the Iranian revolution and a seasoned commentator on global politics. The discussion is never dry, always impassioned, and collects both granular details and sweeping themes.

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For Further Engagement

• Rita Panahi's Show: "Leftists Losing It" (YouTube & Podcasts)
• Follow Rita Panahi: @RitaPanahi on X (Twitter), Instagram
• Ask Rita Questions: Via Manect platform (as mentioned in-episode)

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Decision Points and Calls to Action

• Consider the lessons of Iran for Western democracies.
• Support real women’s and human rights, not merely symbolic protests.
• Be vigilant about who controls speech and policy—whether in tech, government, or media.

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[End of summary.]

Transcript

[A]

Did you ever think you were made again,

[B]

Adam? What's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever saw. It's right here. You are one of one my son's right about.

[A]

I don't think I've ever said this before.

[B]

Okay, so today we have the Great Rita panel. He here with us. She runs a top 15 podcast show on YouTube, crushing it. Absolutely. Getting hundreds of millions of views. And when she speaks, people listen. And the timing of it is phenomenal with everything that's going on in Iran. So it's great to have you here with us.

[A]

Got two Persians together. What are the chances?

[B]

Yes, we do now online. I looked at it. I said, is she born in Arkansas or Iran? But you're born in Arkansas.

[A]

Pine Bluff, Arkansas. Who would have thought? It's a long way from Tehran, isn't it? Yeah, my dad was in Arkansas studying. There's a lot of Iranians did pre Islamic revolution and went back after he finished the degree, as expected. And then a couple of years later, the Islamic revolution happened and the whole country, as you know, went backwards into the dark Ages. So, yeah, that's how we eventually ended up in Australia. We escaped Iran, took some time, and were granted asylum in Australia. So that's. Yeah, that's the story.

[B]

Yeah. It's interesting because we had a lot of relatives that they would either go to Europe to get their green card to come to the States or they'd go to Australia. There's a lot of Assyrians also in Australia.

[A]

Yes, yes, absolutely. A lot of my family ended up in Europe, ended up in Sweden, so they've really set up there. They've got one to their third generation now. Much smaller number of Panahis in Iraq in. In Australia, I should say. Still a lot in Iran. So there's always so much worry about what's happening there because we've all got still family there who are trapped there. And I can't go back. I haven't been back since I left the country when I was 8 or 9. And it would be madness to go back. You would be locked up and killed in record time.

[B]

So do you have memories?

[A]

I do. I still remember I originally lived in a coastal town on the Caspian Sea. So that was ideally because I'm a beach. Like, to this day.

[B]

You live by Bandar Palavi or Shomal. Yeah, Palavi Rashti.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Where my mother's family is from.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

It's a beautiful place.

[A]

Stunning. So that's my earliest memories. And then we moved to Tehran. And I've always have memories there. And we started school there. That was the first time I was forced into the hijab because of course you have to wear a hijab to, to go to school. Even if you're a four or five year old girl, you have to be covered. And that's where we were taught to chant Death to America at assembly every morning. So yeah, those memories I have but happier memories in Australia was around 1984 we moved to Australia.

[B]

84 you moved to Australia. So I was born in Iran and I'm in US now. You were born in Arkansas, but you lived in Iran for eight, nine years and then you moved to Australia. What do you see? What do you see from Iran that maybe the rest of the world doesn't see? When people say why should we mind? Why should we deal with Iran? Who cares about them? Australia is 7,000 miles away. US is 7,000 miles away from Iran. We shouldn't worry about Iran. Why is this issue so important?

[A]

Look, we should worry about Iran on a number of fronts. I can understand the America first absolutist to say this isn't this war, this conflict isn't in our interest, it's not an immediate danger. I get it and I completely sympathize because we have say we America, because I still see myself also as American. I'm still a US citizen. We do have been involved in these forever wars that have cost so much, so much human life, so much money that could be better spent here. So I completely get that. But Iran is different to Iraq and Syria and Libya and some of the other regimes that have tried to be. The US has been involved in overturning one. Iranians sponsored terrorism as we know. So it touches everybody. They've had plots to kill our president. So I would have thought that would be a fairly good reason to take note of what they're doing. But also the Iranian people had this thrust upon them. I think the overwhelming majority of Iranians want to be done with this regime. Iranians are very different. It's, it's very different to the rest of the Arab world. And it's something I think Americans have trouble understanding because they just look at the Middle east as one big region where, you know, and it's not Iranians are Persians, they're not Arabs. They have a history that predates Islam by some, some distance and, and those traditions and those belief systems have withstood so much, including the Islamic revolution. So I think given the chance, a free Iran would be a wonderful ally. For the west. And I think it serves as an example of what can happen when you allow forces that are anti west to take hold. I think we're seeing signs of it in Europe, we're seeing signs of it right here. And we've got this ugly unholy alliance between the Islamists and the leftists, whether you want to call them communists, socialists or just the left in general that share nothing in common with Islamists other than their hate of Republicans, conservatives, Western civilization. But in Iran they got together and they overthrew the government and took hold in 1979 and they've been in power for 47 years. And I think there's just a lot of lessons to be learned out of Iran which particularly noteworthy today in the West. And the left should realize that though they helped the Islamists gain power in Iran, what happened? As soon as the Islamists took, took power, they rounded up all the leftists and killed them. It's not a happy ending in this union. One side's going to prevail and it's not going to be the leftist. So really makes me crazy to see even now when you've got people out there protesting, saying free Iran, Free Iran from what? The regime has been absolutely brutal in oppressing the people there. Why weren't you marching a month ago or two weeks ago when they were gunning down people in the streets, gunning down people in hospitals recovering from injuries they had in the protest. So I've got very little patience for the left in this country and in Australia who are consistently on the wrong side of history and, and, and they do it from a position of complete ignorance of what's to come. So yeah, that was a very long answer to your question. But I think there's lessons to be learned out of Iran, really important lessons that if you know history, maybe you won't be doomed to repeat it.

[B]

Yeah, it's, it's interesting to see not only the leftist, I mean there's even some people on the woke, right that are saying, you know, what are they doing wrong? What's the big deal with what's taking place there? It's a very interesting thing taking place on which groups are agreeing with each other in Iran, especially in US and I'm sure it's happened Australia as well with leftists losing it. Do you think you'll ever run out of content with yourself?

[A]

No, this is the thing. I mean I, I mock the left because they're very mock worthy, but there is no shortage of content. The left are determined to be Crazy that determined to be crazier than the next person. And whether it's mainstream left, like, you know, the ladies of the View or your host on msnbc, msn, whatever they call themselves, or the people who are just posting their rants on. On TikTok or Instagram, I could do that show 10 times the length and I'd still have material left over.

[B]

I don't think you're ever running out of content.

[A]

You will never. And you know what? There's so many people who don't touch it because the comics are so. Almost all of them, not all of them, but a great majority are so left and so gutless, they don't want to touch that material. And it's like, how much more crazy does your site have to be for you to use some of that material in such rich content? So, yeah, no, I. That's. And I think mockery is a important tool. I really do. I think the right needs to use mockery a lot more. It's a very powerful way to put across a point. And when the left give you so much to work with, why wouldn't you do it?

[B]

All right. By the way, there's a lot of guys that are doing it now, and it's. It's working out.

[A]

The good ones.

[B]

Yeah, the good ones. There's a lot of. We have a guy, Vincent Oshana, who makes clips making fun of Newsom, and they always go viral. He is so good at mocking Newsom. He does a great job at it. But going back to this, Australia right now, the soccer, the Iranian women soccer team that's over there, right? We've seen the clips where they didn't sing the Iranian national anthem that was taking place. And then all of a sudden, they are about to go back home. This is the footage that we've all seen. I'm sure you've seen this many times. And so you're seeing this. And then Iranian state TV comes out after not performing, you know, not following the song. Rob, if you can go back to the other one with Iranian state tv, how he reacted to it. This is how. This is a guy that's for Iranian state tv. And here's what he had to say right after seeing this. You should punish traitors harder during war. Whoever takes one wrong step against the country during war, you have to respond to them. The story of our woman national team not singing the anthem, You have to respond harshly. It's not a symbolic anthem or mere protest. Singing is the highest order of treason. You can pause it right there. You get the idea what they're saying, Right. And now while they were leaving, you know, people were standing protesters in front of the bus, not allowing them to leave, you know, not allow them to go back to the country. The President Trump asked Australia to give them asylum, which I believe the Prime Minister Albanese gave them.

[A]

Well, five, from what I understand the latest information is five have sought asylum and been granted asylum. And they already have pictures now with the relevant minister. And interestingly, in the picture, every single woman had the hijab off. So it just shows you. Yes, off straight away. Because this is something that's forced upon women. You know, you see some women in the west wearing the hijab and that always kind of gets me curious about why you'd want to be in the west if you are that devout. There's many Muslim majority countries, but all five had their hijabs off. The, the, the fear is that the rest of the women who might be wanting to seek asylum do not have the opportunity because their handlers have really kept them away from anybody. And so I think there were people at the bus shouting to them in, in Persian, saying, here we go, there's the five ladies with their jobs off. Yeah. So they, there were people shouting at them in Persian telling them, you can seek asylum, do this, giving them instructions. But they were bundled off to the airport, that flight went to Sydney and then in Sydney, they're due to take an international flight back. So that's where I'm hoping that authorities intervene and speak to these women one on one, without their entourage, who is going to be controlling them and preventing them from speaking freely? Because I can't imagine any of them not wanting to seek asylum. Obviously some might have children at home, families. There's even talk about some of their families already being targeted back in Iran. So maybe they're eager to get back to, to try to help there and explain themselves. But I, I really do fear for these girls going back. What's going to happen to them? You know, the regime, they're unhinged, they're brutal. They're unhinged and it doesn't bear thinking about what could happen to these girls. So I'm hoping that the rest of them get asylum before. Yeah, before they're forced to leave.

[B]

Now the fear becomes, you know, they'll come out if, if you know their tactics. What are some things that could happen? They would target the family, families first,

[A]

particularly if they have children. But you know, women this age that would have parents, that would have grandparents and can you just Imagine in, at any time in Iran being in the crosshairs of the regime, because once they've got you in their sides, it's very difficult to. To have any sort of normality in your life if you're deemed some sort of collaborator with the enemy. So that, that would be the great fear. And the fear is, if they go back, what will happen to them? Will they be tortured into confessing to something? Will they be locked up? Will they be assaulted? Or. I'm almost. The best case scenario is they'll be forced to mouth some propaganda that will get. Let them off the hook and that's the best you can hope for. So this is pretty, pretty grim.

[B]

Do you know who the lady was on the sideline that had a smile on her face with her arms across? Was she someone's mother?

[A]

That I can't tell you. I don't know. I don't know if she's a team official or if she is a. If she's. Yeah. Relation.

[B]

Someone's mother. Rob, is there a way to find out who she is?

[C]

I'll see.

[B]

Yeah. I'm curious to know who she is, because if she's smiling, you know what that look to me is? That's a look of somebody that's supporting the girls, not singing the national anthem, that she may have been a part of the decision. Because why would she be smiling like that?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And why would they go to her? Is she someone's mother? Is she a head coach? Is she a general manager? Is she a decision maker? What's going to happen to her? Did she go back to Iran? Because she's got her hijab on, but not fully. She's shown some of her hair. So I'm curious to know who she is, because if this is a collective decision that was made, Is that the same lady?

[C]

I don't think so.

[A]

I'm not sure how to tell from.

[B]

That's the hard picture. Hard to tell from this angle.

[A]

Yeah, it's.

[B]

It looks like they were united.

[A]

The team certainly looked united, that those out on the field looked united. That. That. That does. That is her. She's the head coach. And there's. There was all sorts of talk in Australia because we've had it for several weeks now. Major story be this scandal with our government bringing back the ISIS brides, as they're called. So these are women who left Australia, often young women, very young women to travel to the Caliphate to marry Islamic State fighters. And now they've had children over there. So the children are obviously innocent, but the majority of Australians do not want these women back into the country that we. Regardless of whether they're citizens or not, they chose to go and join this brutal, backward, sadistic death cult and God knows what sort of atrocities they themselves committed over there when Islamic State ran the caliphate. And now that the caliphate's fallen, they want to come back to Australia. Well, get stuffed. We don't want you back. But the government is bending over backwards, the labor government, to. To bring them back. So when this issue happened and you've got these women taking this brave stand and they weren't being helped, you know, it's like, what, we want the ISIS brides back, but we don't want to grant asylum to these women. So, yeah, I think the government felt the heat and has now granted asylum very quickly to those first five. But yet remains to be safe. More can be, more can be saved. And, of course, President Trump sent that message that was very powerful, calling on the Australian government to take action and saying, if you don't, I will. We will do it.

[B]

Yeah, it was impressive to see that taking place. I thought it was very honorable and great timing, and God willing, all these girls will be fine and their families will be fine as well. As they're going through this now with Khamenei. When the war happened, within 24 hours, they killed almost everybody. Right. And I believe even they injured Mojtab, the son of Khamenei, who is now the new prime minister. I heard they injured him as well. And you had some real nice sweet. This is probably the sweetest I've seen you. Here's what you had to say to Khamenei. I thought it was very sentimental. Rob, if you want to play this clip, go for it.

[A]

This editorial with this message to the late Supreme Leader. Rowan.

[D]

Couldn't have put it better. Myself, Fritza James.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

I mean, I don't have any more time for that translation. You're amazing. May you rest in peace. No. In other words, cuddles, you son of a. Burning hell. And we said it's what, dirt over your head? Right.

[A]

Dirt on your head. But essentially is a. Is a message of you should feel deep shame. But, yeah, Persian sayings are like that. When you do the literal translation, it just seems ridiculous, but it means. Yeah, it means dirt on your head. Pedar sag means really, your father's a

[B]

dog, not your mom.

[A]

Yes. It's not exactly son of a. But it's kind of, you know. And burning hell is universal.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

So why. Why do you feel that way about Khamenei. Why do you feel?

[A]

Well, because it's destroyed hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of lives. I mean, it's not just the people who were slaughtered, people tortured, people killed for political dissent, but the, the lives that have been robbed. The Islamic revolution sent the country back. You know, Iran was relatively modern, secular. You look at the pictures of my mom, be the same with your family. They look like they were in any European or any American city. You know, my mom's pictures, the last ones of her before the Islamic revolution, beehive hair and mini skirts and, you know, and, and then you have this Islamist takeover and women are second class citizens. They're forced to cover up. So that's a very visible sign. But obviously the oppression is far more broad than that. Just freedom's gone. You can get stoned to death for adultery, for witchcraft, for leaving the religion for blasphemy. I mean, it's just madness to see that happen to a country like Iran, which means it can happen anywhere. And that's why I think so many people who have fled those sorts of countries are super sensitive to signs of it in the west, because if you've already escaped it once, you don't want to be escaping it again. Yeah.

[B]

So people will see this and they'll say, okay, so then why have they stayed in power for 47 years? If it's so evil, why is it still in power for 47 years? When you think about the Shah after Mossadegh, when they came in, the MI6 and the CIA was involved, and we've all heard about, I think was called Operation Ajax, if I'm not mistaken. And Mossadegh went and lived in a village all by himself. And then the Shah came for 26 years and Iran was great, was doing great. You know, people would go to Iran, they would travel their vacation. So he could only hold it together for 26 years. But these guys have held it together for 47 year. How?

[A]

Well, because they are so brutal. We just saw recently the protests that occurred and they just went out and gunned down people. They killed thousands. So as fed up as the population is, it takes a lot to take to the streets knowing you could be shot dead, you could be locked up, your family targeted, and people still showed up night after night, despite the mass slaughter. So you're going out there with a real possibility that you're going to die or you're going to have some catastrophic outcome in your life. So that takes a lot. That takes a lot. I mean, none of us living under those sorts of conditions, could say for it for sure whether we'd be out on the streets knowing that threat. So that's what they do. We've had major uprisings over that 47 years, particularly the last couple of decades. And each time they have just stomped them out with brutal force. And not just killing protesters as they protesting. It's what comes after the arrest, the quick trials and then the death sentences. I mean, all of that has such a psychological impact on the population. Frankly, I'm surprised there are as many uprisings as there are given how brutal the, the reaction is.

[B]

Yeah, you're surprised because people are willing to put their life on the line.

[A]

You are putting your life on the line. Everything you've worked for, lived for, your family, everything you've built. You know, if you go out on the street, not only could you be killed then and there, but your entire life could be destroyed. If you're arrested, the consequences are catastrophic for you and your family. So it takes a lot, it takes a lot to protest in a country like Iran. It's not like here we've got these blue haired freaks who think they're oppressed and living under fascism. You know, going out with their professionally made signs every week with some different cause. That takes zero courage. What we see in Iran, that's real courage. And what I absolutely loathe are these blue haired freaks who supposedly care about oppression and women's rights and all the things they supposedly care about, all the humanitarian positions they, they say they take. Never do they protest for people in Iran. Never do they protest for the women in Iran. Even when these uprisings have been female led. The feminist here are quiet, absolutely cowardly, gutless principalists. I just have no time for it. I absolutely disgusted by the modern feminist movement that have abandoned women living under Shariah law.

[B]

Why is that though? Because you'll see them come out and I'm curious to know what you'll say on this. You'll see them come out and say free Palestine, right? You'll see them come out doing that. But when it comes down to the women, and you see the stats of 30,000 people in Iran, they killed their own people, up to 100,000 people. But they'll say, how do you know that? How do you know that? How do you know that? But if hamas reports that 67,000 people were killed, Palestinians killed, no, that has to be true. So why do you think they side with, with free Palestine, but they don't side with Iranian women right now that are being killed Raped and destroyed by their own government. Why do you think that is? How does that happen?

[A]

Because the feminist movement a long time ago ceased to be about the rights of women. Even when you look at local issues, the feminist movement does not stand with women who are trying to protect female only spaces, female only sports. They're on the other side that it is a leftist movement that is anti Western civilization. That's what it is morphed into, sadly. And so they're comfortable being with Palestine, but they can't stand with the women living under Shariah law in Iran because they are on the same side of as, as the mullahs. As crazy as that sounds, there is this unholy alliance between the left and Islamists and the feminist movement is a very, is a part of that leftist movement. So it doesn't make sense because the Islamists and, and the broad leftist movement share very little in common. Their values are so different apart from the fact that they've got shared enemies on the right now, whether you look at that as, as the center right, the right wing Republicans, Western civilizations don't, those who want to protect Western values. And I think we are in a civilizational war. And that's where the sides have, have come down and it happens continuously. It's not isolated with Iran. The feminist movement will never side with women who are genuinely oppressed even in their own countries. I never hear members of the feminist movement talking about the sharp rise in things like female genital mutual mutilation in the west because it's a problem in the west that sometimes send their girls back to certain countries, typically in Africa, to undergo that procedure. And they come back and we now have even in Melbourne clinics that are devoted to dealing with the problems of fgm because you have all sorts of issues, childbirth and, and, and, and post childbirth. So you know, we've got that craziness happening in the west, that absolute depravity in my mind. And the feminists are reluctant to talk about it because they're more worried about Islamophobia. They're worried if they talk about that it will see people being critical of Islam and, and is being Islamophobic really?

[B]

So then who is imposing that level of power and fear on for people to line up that quickly and be afraid of criticizing Islamophobia? Who's bringing that fear down? Is it mainstream? Is it political groups? Is it propaganda? What would it be?

[A]

Well, that sort of, that sort of fear of being seen as Islamophobic has been so normalized and so we Just had one in the last few days, a Islamist attack in New York. And straight away the talk was about, oh, well, we can't have Islamophobia. And what about the other side, who. I think Kathy Hokel came out and condemned both sides. She actually did the both sides argument. And it's like, really, there's. There's a literal Islamist attack. And your concern is about the rise in Islamophobia. It's. Yeah. And this is something that this great Hitch warned about, that they will take away your right to criticize, they will take away your right to be critical of even the extremes of Islamism. And that's what we're talking about. We're talking about the extremes that are dangerous, that they are not compatible with Western values. They are not. You cannot coexist with Islamism and Western values. Free speech, equal rights, you can't have that. If, if you're also going to be tolerant of Islamism, why are people flirting

[B]

with that idea that it could possibly happen? Why are they saying, poor these guys, you know, what's wrong? I don't think it will have a heart. Take some asylum, you know, take some of these political refugees.

[A]

I don't think they think it can happen to them. I don't think they think it will touch their lives. I genuinely don't. That's why you see these gays for Palestine or LGBT gays for Gaza. I mean, they don't understand what the end result of that is. They don't understand that those people loathe them with a passion. And what was. I think Molenbeek in Belgium is a very good example of that. You know, it's. It became so tolerant that all the gays had to move out. The women didn't feel safe walking in the streets because that mindset came in that, yeah, you have to be covered up. You, if you're overtly gay, you're probably going to be targeted in the street. So Molenbeek, I think, is known as the, the terror capital of, of Europe. And it's a. It's a good lesson on what not to do and how you don't appease the worst of the worst. You. You actually stand with your values. And that's something I've always been big on and something that people always get triggered about. But all cultures are not equal. And I think we should be free to say that without fear of people having little meltdowns. All cultures aren't equal. And anyone who pretends otherwise is either dumb or lying there. No other options Yet Molenbeek is an experience. Jihadist capital of Europe.

[B]

That's. That's wild. And how did this happen? How did it become the jihadist capitalist, civil?

[A]

I think because it was a culture of appeasement. They just went out of their way to appease a certain population. And appeasement just emboldens the extremists. You don't appease. You welcome people, but you expect from them assimilation. If you come into the west, you do you assimilate Western values. If you don't want to assimilate with the Western values, then there are a number of Muslim countries you can move to. There's a lot of countries you can move to that share your values, but you can bring your elements of your culture that are compatible. You can bring all the wonderful foods and music and dance. But when we're talking about values, if you don't believe that women are equal to men, don't come to the West. If you don't think people have the right to free speech and say things that may offend you, don't come to the West. I think these are fairly simple concepts.

[B]

Yeah, I agree. The question becomes, is it too late? The question is, will the leaders have a backbone to fight this out? Because propaganda is going to be able to confuse people so much to the point of it's not fair. Leave them alone. Islamophobia. What's wrong with Mamdani? The people voted for him for New York City. That's what the people want. Why are you getting. You said it's free election. You said free. Freedom of religion. And then that same system produces a Mom, Dani.

[A]

So this is. Some people are going to learn the hard way. That's the. That's the problem. Some people.

[B]

New York City, though.

[A]

New York City. Good luck to you. Good luck.

[B]

What do you think about Mom?

[A]

Donnie, I think, is a very savvy Islamist. I could be wrong. Maybe he's not that extreme. But to me, he's got that permanent smile fixed on his face. It looks all very friendly and safe and someone he could be at a dinner party with. But then you look at some of the things he has said, some of the opinions he tolerates. He's. Look at who he shares his bed with. What she was liking about post October 7th, some of the tweets she was liking. I mean, what is. What is the mindset there? What. What. What are they actually thinking? I mean, to like something like that to me is deeply disturbing. So, and, and, and for him to be fairly comfortable with it, he Obviously, is. Is married to her, but even some of the things he has said over the years, I know he try to moderate his position on law enforcement and a few other things during the election campaign, but. Yeah. Good luck. Good luck. New York. You wanted it, you got it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What do they say? You f around and you find out. They're going to be in the find out component of that equation.

[B]

Well, I think they're going through it right now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because they're. What's happening with taxes, all the free promises that he made. But going back to Iran.

[A]

Would you like tweets like this? Why?

[B]

That's his wife.

[A]

That's his wife. This is what I'm saying. It's not some staffer that he's never met that you know is part of a big team. This is a woman who shares his bed every night. And that's how she thinks.

[B]

That's one of them. If you go to the other one, there's a few of them. This is the next one.

[A]

Yeah. Great.

[B]

Intentionally kept in poverty, blockade, occupation, often heavy military attack. Over half of the population of Gaza. Our children. She likes that post Free Palestine and there's a couple of them if you go lower. This next one, Resist apartheid, occupation, oppression. She liked this one. So some people may say the previous one, what's wrong with defending for kids? But then she's making it very clear what her positions are. This is a mayor of the most powerful city in America, New York City. That's his wife.

[A]

Yep. Good luck. Good luck. And also he's completely economically illiterate. I mean, you saw what he was suggesting. So never mind the ideological beliefs system, his commie ways. I mean, you're. You're a savvy investor. Would you be investing in real estate in New York right now or anything else?

[B]

Not nowhere near where he's at. And, and people are leaving as well. I mean, they're. They're leaving in the droves. We saw this happening to California. California during COVID lost a trillion dollars of wealth where people left, but they just. Recently a number came out. In the last 90 days, California's lost another trillion dollars of wealth. When they announced, announced the wealth tax, that they're leaving there and soon the same thing's gonna be happening to New York and they'll be going to different markets. But the concern is this, is, this is getting to a point where the good thing about what's going on with Iran right now, everything is front and center. So you have to ask yourself, you either believe that the Iranian regime Killed its people or you don't. If you do, what do you think about that country? Do they stay in power? Do they still stay the way they are? I want to ask you this question. Your parents, what do your mom and dad say right now? I mean, I'm assuming your parents lived in Iran, right?

[A]

Well, yeah, they were born there, they grew up there. They were away for a few short years whilst my dad was studying, but then they went back and then the Islamic revolution happened.

[B]

So were they pro Shah, were they pro Khomeini?

[A]

They were pro Shah, so that was one of the reasons why they were terrified because my mom was the head midwife at, at a hospital and she was a bit of a glamour in her day. So when the royal family visited, she was responsible for showing them around. So there was a lot of footage of her and pictures of her with the, with the Queen with, and trouble. And that's trouble. I remember them burning the photos, but parents burning the. Yeah, the ones we had in our own possession, but the photos out there. So that's what they were fearful of. And then I remember there were just so many nights where we thought that the police were coming to question because that questioned family members, that arrested family members. That's her at the front. Yeah. So they would, then they would not go home. I remember like parking up the road and just like looking at the, looking at the house, seeing if there's people in there, people going there, people wanting to approach it. So it was, yeah, that was that. There's some of the memories I have there, but obviously I don't remember everything because I was, I was quite young. But yeah, they were definitely pro the Shah and, and that was one of the big fears of, of what would happen to them.

[B]

What are they saying today?

[A]

Look, they're help hopeful but they're also not counting on the regime being defeated because it's on its knees, it's as weak as it's been in 47 years. But let's just say the campaign finishes and, and, and, and the US Israel operation is concluded. It's then up to the Iranian people to get rid of the last remnants of this regime. And what if they just come out and just crack down on them as they have and, and they hold on to power for, however, more years. So I don't know, I still have that fear as well, but I think it's now more likely that the regime will go, which is the first time in my life I've thought, I just never thought it would happen in my lifetime. Genuinely, I thought, I'll never. I'll never be able to go back. I'll never be able to take my son there. So to do that would be a dream.

[B]

Yeah, I think you and I both. I got four kids that I want to take them and show him.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, the streets I was raised in, the. The park I used to go to in Iran, Parkishan Shai and Bandar Palavi Shamal, which is where my mother's family's from, and how beautiful it was, and

[A]

all the historic sites, such incredible history and architecture. And I've been to Israel a couple of times, and it's probably the most impressive sites that I've seen anywhere in the world. But Iran actually has sites that rival it. And, and the history there is just so rich. And, and, and, yeah, it would be absolute dream to take my son there and show him that.

[B]

So yesterday I was watching a clip by Newt Gingrich and he said, there's three things that Trump has to be worried about. Straight one to it, and he said, number one, you can't keep straight of Hormuz closed. It has to be opened. Right. If you keep it closed, other people feel the pain. It's going to be a problem for you. They're all going to side against you, so you have to find a way to keep straight of Hormuz open. Number two, he said, what are you going to do with the 200,000 IRGC members in the military that are loyalists to the IRGC that know there is no life after the fall? So if Iran falls, what do they do next? You know, you're not going to give them a job, so what are you going to kill all of them? And then number three is, how do you give power to the 85 million, 90 million Iranians that don't have weapons, they don't have second amendment, they don't have a way to protect themselves, so they're worried about coming out, because what if they kill my son? What if they'll kill my daughter? That's a real fear. So how do you deal with that? What do you actually think is going to end up happening?

[A]

This is the problem. I think the 200,000 you mentioned, there's going to be a reckoning. I know President Trump has said, put down your arms, stop killing your people, and you'll be essentially given amnesty, but

[B]

what does that even mean?

[A]

It's not going to be that simple. The Iranian people who've seen their kids slaughtered and tortured and their girls raped by these animals aren't Going to just be saying, okay, clean slate, we're all friends, and let's just move on. With a liberated Iran, there's going to be. Yeah, I think there's going to be some unrest, to put it lightly for some time to come. And I think we just have to have an appetite for that because it's just going to happen. You can't have 47 years of oppression and all the killing and torture that's happened and not have some sort of a reckoning. So that's. I. Yeah, ideally. Well, not ideally, but in, in a, in a simple world, you would just have those, those goons look at the numbers, see that things have changed and lay down their arms and the country can, you know, then decide what they want to be does. That's when I want to be a monarchy, doesn't want to be a republic, what sort of democracy wants to have. But I think there's going to be a bit of pain before that.

[B]

But by the way, you obviously have a very big fan base. You know when, when video went out that you're gonna be on, everybody's like, oh, my God, I love Rita. I love Reef. She's amazing.

[A]

I wish I was more high energy for you. You know what? I've been sick, so that's why I'm a little bit. So I need some caffeine. I'm gonna perco.

[B]

You want some coffee?

[A]

Yeah, let's get me some coffee.

[B]

Can you guys get her some coffee? Yeah. But for some of you that are watching her, that are fans, she's officially on Manek. So if you want to manect her and ask her questions, you can. I think her QR code is going to be somewhere below here. But let me ask you, when it comes down to political parties in Iran, who are you? Are they reaching out to you? Are they saying, hey, support us here. If he falls, here's who we'd like. I'm sure you hear Reza Pahlavi's names being dropped, and then you heard the Kurds saying, we won't support Reza Pahlavi, then you're here saying, well, what about mek? You'll hear all these guys. And then when you go to the State Department and you talk to people in the State Department, some Iranians that work directly with Marco Rubio, and you'll say, look, it. It has to be somebody from the inside. It can't be somebody from the outside. Somebody from the outside can play a role, but it can't be somebody from the outside. What do you like with who's going to be the replacement if IRGC goes.

[A]

Look, I think there is a big movement to have Pahlavi back, to have Reza Pahlavi and have him as an interim measure until they have elections. But I actually don't have a firm dog in this race. People always accuse me of being on this side or that side. I just talk to everybody. So I've interviewed everyone pretty much that you've talked about, representatives from, from each camp. I wouldn't, I, I'd be comfortable with the Crown prince going back and having perhaps a 6 to 12 month period where it's determined how these elections are going to be held, what's the preferred model, and then go on from that. So I, I think even in Iran, from what you hear and, and just from talking to people, they seem to be open to that. That seems to be something that there is a real, I don't know, it could just be sentimentality. It's the last rule that they knew that was not hideous. So, yeah, I'm very comfortable with that. And I know some people say, you know, you can't go in there and install a prince. That's just another form of oppression. But it will be for a short period of time until the people have their say and if they want more of that, they can have more of that. So, yeah, I'm comfortable with that model. I just want to get rid of this Islamist regime. I mean Iran has gone through this, the Persian Empire, what was it, the seventh century? That's the first time Islam took, took hold and, and 1979, 47 years. That's a long time. That's a long time to be oppressed. So I think the people already, I'm comfortable with that. What about you? Are you comfortable with 6 to 12 months, meaning what?

[B]

Transitional of what he does to have

[A]

him in there as a figure until the details are determined. Because you can't have an election, you know, overnight.

[B]

Well, there's two things, you know, what I think is irrelevant because one is the Iranian people, they want him. That's one. Two, you know, the US if they're going to go in and do what they did to Venezuela, you have to be able to make sure you win him over, Trump over. So if you don't win him over, what is he going to be doing? He said the other day that, he says, he keeps repeating himself that Reza Pallavi is a nice guy, but, you know, we need somebody from the inside. I don't want somebody from the outside. I don't know if you Saw him say this or not. He said it's too weak.

[A]

The problem is, if you're on the inside and you're not part of. Part of the regime or controlled opposition, you're probably in jail. That's my problem with someone on the inside. I know someone on the inside is smoother initially, but I just want to be comfortable with anyone from this regime, even on the outskirts of it being. Being the next leader.

[B]

Yeah, I think. I think he definitely has a place, a role to play. I've been very critical of him many, many times because he's had 47 years to do it, and this is the first time I've seen him play offense the way he finally is, which is good. And I think a big part of it is, one, Iranian people are rising up, and two, Trump being in power. If it wasn't Trump, he wouldn't be able to do what he's doing.

[A]

Oh, hell no. If it wasn't Trump in power, none of this would be happening. Let's be honest. None of this would be happening. I mean, this is a. This is a leader unlike any we have seen, and perhaps we'll see. I mean, what he has been able to achieve in almost all corners of the world, his foreign policy achievements, he does not get credit for that, which I know probably bothers him, but really, this is huge achievements. We're talking about the fall of the Berlin Wall, levels of change here. This is monumental. So. And it would not be happening if it wasn't for President Trump. There's zero doubt about that. I mean, it's not a day I don't think about that incident in Butler and that turning of the head in the last millisecond, and how different, not just America, but how different the world would be if that didn't happen, if that miracle, he didn't just turn his head that last millisecond. It's. Yeah, it kind of blows my mind is the wrong expression. Every day, every day I think about what would the world look like with Kamala or some other imposter in the White House. Yeah, you wouldn't have Venezuela, you wouldn't have Iran. You wouldn't have all the peace deals that have happened. You wouldn't have now Cuba. The Cubans are crying out to be next, and I think they will be.

[B]

I think that's going to be an easier one, though. I don't think that's going to be

[A]

a tough one, because back they're already on their knees. They don't need to be bombed.

[B]

They used to have protection from Soviet Union, from USSR but who protects Cuba today? I don't even know who protected Cuba. Should be a knock on the door. It should be, hey guys, you're the new Puerto Rico out. Let's build some hotels, let's get tourism going. Communism is out. What do you think is a bigger thing that they fought against? Because back in the days, my mother, my mother's side, many of the members, they were part of the Two Day Party. I don't know if you remember the Two Day Party or not. In Iran, it was a Communist party in Iran. That's where a lot of, if you ask your mother, she'll tell you about it. Two Day Party was. These are guys that were the communists. You know, they loved what Stalin, Lenin, you know, Karl Marx. This was their bible. Two Day Party of Iran. And there was a fear of communism getting bigger to spread around the world and possibly making it to the countries, you know, to the States, to U. S, to other places. And in schools they got into universities. They did such a great job going and brainwashing American kids in schools. No, it is the most noble thing Professors all started giving the kids. You should read Communist manifesto. You should read Communist Manifesto and then fast forward today. Rob, how big is the, how many members of the Communist Party are there in America right now? If you do Communist party membership in U.S. 70,000 members. No, that's 1930s. They were peaking. If you go to charts, 20,000 right there. 20,000 membership. 20, 24. Okay, can you ask when was the peak? 1941. So go back to that right there, Rob, where you were at 1941 fervently supporting the war effort. The Popular front era of CPUSA lasted until 1945, where Earl Browder was ousted from the party and replaced by a new guy. Yeah, at one point these guys were getting a lot of momentum. The question I got for you is what do you think is you think what's happening with Islamists and it's spreading around the world, you think that's more dangerous than Communist Party or equivalent, less. What do you think about it? Because it seems like what President Trump is doing and he's been saying since 2015 when he said I would bomb the shit out of Iran, those are his words on what he said. Rubio has been saying this since 2015. Do you think this is a bigger threat than communism was back in the days?

[A]

Close your eyes, exhale, feel your body relax and let go of whatever you're carrying today. Well, I'm letting go of the Worry that I wouldn't get my new contacts in time for this class. I got them delivered free from 1-800-contacts. Oh my gosh, they're so fast. And breathe. Oh, sorry. I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they gave me on my first order. Oh, sorry. Namaste. Visit 1-800-contacts.com today to save on your first order. 1-800-contacts. Islamism, that's a big call to make. I think Islamism's spread through the west is more certain than communism ever was because it's a demographic thing ultimately. And once it starts, it's very hard to pull back. You see that example in France where they've got, you know, certain demographic issues and they've got so many people now on their terror watch list that they can't actually watch them. So once you get over a certain percentage, then you've got issues and just so, but, but to me, they're two sides of the same coin that what they share in common is a hatred of Western values and a determination to undo the West. They, they think we are all illegitimate countries on stolen land. All that sort of rhetoric is designed to demoralize the population. And I think the, the leftists, maybe not the communists, but it's all one movement to me have been the most successful in advancing their ideology. The march through the institutions as they called it. And it started with academia, but it's everywhere now, this leftist mindset. It's, it's in the corporate world. I mean we saw that during the BLM riots, the Summer of Love, where every corporate, big corporate was coming out with some pro BLM stance. And you know, you saw the, the influence, the normalization of, of what was a neo, and he's a neo Marxist group vehemently anti Western values. So to me there's that they're two sides of the same coin. They share a common goal and that's why they work together even though they really don't share too many other values. But it's everywhere. It's no longer just schools, it's in the corporate world. The HR departments have been taken over by this sort of ideology and people are self censoring. In Australia there are so many people who come up to me and say, you know, I want to say what I think but I'm too scared. They're even too scared to post it on their own Facebook page because, you know, their green haired niece might, you know, abuse them or not show up to Christmas dinner.

[B]

So we had how nasty is it over there? How is it walking on eggshells.

[A]

It is, it is a little bit, because our caliber of our politicians is, is different. So we've had what you would call rhinos, or in, in the uk, the Tories who governed like they were in the Labor Party. We've had that sort of Conservative for a long time. So just in the last few months in Australia, we've had the, really the mainstreaming of a group called One Nation, who've been a political party for decades, but always a very small vote, sort of under 10%, around 5, 6, 7%. Now in some of our polls, they're winning the polling. They're coming in ahead of labor and the coalition, which is the Liberal and Nationals who are supposed to be the right side of the political spectrum. And that's because people are just so sick of these, you know, Conservative in name only, who don't actually stand for anything, who make a few noises and then when they get into power, they let the bureaucracy run rampant and the swamp, as you call it, and just implement leftist policies. So that's why One Nation has had this enormous surge. It's a really fascinating time in Australia for politics to see if that's just going to fracture the right vote and keep the left in power or whether those forces come together and actually win government. We've got preferential voting in Australia, which is also fairly unique. It's not something. So you don't just vote one for your choice, you number them. So if you've got eight candidates in your seat, you'll number one from eight.

[B]

Kidding me? Yeah, I just put one or I have.

[A]

No, you have to number them. It's actually a fairly idiotic system when I think of it. I used to think it had its benefits, but it actually is, is not a great system. You much rather have a first past the post system like the UK does. So. Yeah, so you have to number them. So if I vote for an independent as my first vote and they don't get up, then my second preference, my vote goes into my, to that, into their bundle and, and so on. So it's, it's a complicated system, but uses that system. I can't even tell you who else uses it. Could be a uniquely Australian flavor. I'm sure someone else would have a preferential system. No.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

Not only do we have a preferential system, get this, we have compulsory voting. You will be fined if you don't vote. So you have to participate in elections, whether they're at the federal level, to state or local government. So we've Got three levels of government and you are obliged by law to participate in.

[B]

You will be fined.

[A]

If you will be fined. Yes, I've had fines. I've had to write in and say, I wasn't in the country, give me a break.

[B]

But that's. What kind of fines is it?

[A]

Oh, it's not crippling fines, but it'll be like around a hundred dollars, I think.

[B]

Fine you if you don't vote.

[A]

Yeah. What percentage three elections we have to vote into? It's not just the one election. We've got state, federal and local.

[B]

Each of the elections you don't vote for, you get fined.

[A]

Yep. And the elections are at different times. So the federal election, obviously, is the whole country. And then we will have state elections and local elections, which are the local government. And it, again, there was a period where I thought, oh, that's not so bad because it gets people involved and you have greater participation. Participation rates. And perhaps the government is more reflective of the population because everyone's voting, so you get a more representative. Nah, that's actually not the case because you've got people voting only because of the fear of the fine. So they're not actually, you know, they have no knowledge. And we have something called the donkey vote, where people will just go, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 on their ballot. So it's, you know, very advantageous to be the number one on the first name because you get the benefit of the donkey vote. You get the people who go, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Yeah.

[B]

Just to do it quickly, just so I'm going to be.

[A]

That's a donkey vote.

[B]

Yeah. What percentage do the donkey.

[A]

I don't. It wouldn't be that much. Probably be 5, 10%, but that would be enough. Interesting for some elections, I would imagine.

[B]

So. So you have to. You have to vote for three elections per year?

[A]

Not per year. Federal elections. Victoria. Where I'm from, we have state elections every four years and then federal elections are normally around every three years. And then you've got the local ones as well. The local ones, I think, are the worst to participate in because at least with your federal and state elections, you've got some knowledge of the. Who you're voting for and the policies to advocate the local government elections. Even I'm pretty, you know, pretty politically engaged. Half the time I don't know the names on the ballot for the local government or who they are, what they stand for. So it's completely a absurd thing to require me to vote. But it is what it is. So yeah, we have freedom in Australia, but not freedom to refuse to vote. You have to vote.

[B]

That's. That's interesting. Is it, Is it a. Do you require IDs when you go to vote? How easy is it to vote? Is there voter fraud in Australia? How does that work?

[A]

I think it's pretty good. You could commit voter fraud if you went to multiple polling booths and gave the same name because they cross off your name. But you know, there should be checks and balances to see if the same name's been crossed off. But I do wonder whether. How thorough those checks and balances is. So it could happen, but it's, I think, unlikely. Yeah, we don't have. It's a much simpler system and the Australian Electoral Commission is pretty sound in policing it. There has been some accusations of them becoming politicized with a couple of different things over the years, but overall they're pretty sound. And there's high confidence that the elections are free and fair, that we're not having the sort of issues you have here.

[B]

Is this true? Rob says in federal elections in Australia, voters generally do not need to show.

[A]

You need to give your name and they've got a voter roll with the names of people who are in that electorate.

[B]

But not an ID needed.

[A]

No. And if you're voting in a. If you're an absentee voter, I guess it's called, when you're voting in a polling booth that's not your electorate, then you go to a different section and you. It's a little bit more involved.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

They're trying to do voter ID here.

[A]

I think you need it here because you've got all sorts of issues here, particularly post Covid where you have the mass mail in voting that isn't so much of an issue in many other countries.

[B]

Did you see the. The voter id? CNN did poll. Do you have that, Rob? CNN did a video Harry Anton, talking about how Americans feel. I send it to you to my notes if you want to go to it, Rob.

[A]

I've seen that. And you know what? It is overwhelming even amongst the population that we're told is going to be disadvantaged. I think it was over 70% of African Americans or blacks who, who wanted voter ID. And it's a massive percentage of Democrats wanted. I think overall is over 80% of the population wants it. I mean, my God, how much more? Oh, here we go. 71% of Democrats, 95% of Republicans.

[B]

Play the clip, Rob.

[D]

The racial breakdown on this. Right. Because I think a lot of people make the argument that, that people of color, non white Americans have a harder time procuring a photo ID to vote. But even here, take a look here. Favorite photo ID to vote.

[A]

75% of white people Favorite.

[D]

82% of Latino, 76% of black Americans, favorite. So the bottom line is this. Voter ID is not controversial in this country. A photo ID to vote is not controversial in this country. It is not controversial by party and it is not controversial by race. The vast majority of Americans agree with Nicki Minaj that in fact you should have a photo id, Nicki.

[B]

The vast majority.

[A]

I love how Nikki is now chief political analyst. No, she is. And you know what? I don't know if you've seen this video. It's got a lot of views. Army Horowitz, excuse me, he's a regular on my show. He went to some. Where was he? He was in California, New York, and he was, you know, talking to some fairly affluent looking in affluent areas, talking to white folk about voter id and almost all of them, oh, it's racist. It's this and the bigotry of low expectations with these people. They are so racist. The, the Woke elite are the most openly racist people I think, in this country. They really are. And then they're almost blind to, you know, just the suggestion that blacks are too dumb or too impoverished too just out of touch to be able to get id. And then army went into a black neighborhood and asked them the same question and they just looked at him like he was absolutely. They're like, what do you mean we don't have. I like what? Like they were insulted by the mere suggestion that it was hard to get id. So, yeah, that was a clip I paid recently because, yeah, it's always timely and I think he filmed this actually a few years ago. But, yeah, as relevant now as ever.

[B]

Yesterday, I don't know what it was, Rob. I don't know if you can find us or not. Elon retweeted something about a guy going after Chuck Schumer because Chuck Schumer said something like, you know, it's unfair. You're making it difficult for people to vote. You're making difficult for people to do this. And he went after him. I don't know if you have that clip. You can play this clip as well, briefly. Go for it.

[D]

Here's the same thing that was done in the south for decades to prevent people of color from voting.

[E]

See, this is where my righteous anger pop up because I know what he's saying is a lie. I live in the South. I've been living in the south my whole life on the Gulf Coast. I go to vote every single time there's an election and guess what? I show my id, I write my signature, they check to make sure who I am. I go vote, no problems. Nobody asking me any questions, nobody making me count the jelly beans in the jaw and quit lumping us in the people of color category. We're black Americans and we are citizens and nobody is taking away our right to vote. What they are doing is they are using black people going back in the past, provoking emotional manipulation because they know if they say Jim Crow or slavery, black people gonna be like, oh my

[A]

God, he's right, they're coming against us.

[E]

This has nothing to do with you black people. Wake up. People of color he talking about is illegal migrants. They don't have IDs. That's their new voting base. Letting these people use you. I've been having an ID since I was 15 years old.

[B]

Stop it right there. Common sense just makes it out right to the market and then they have to try to defend it.

[A]

But I mean, can you imagine any issue other than, I guess, the trans issue with the excess excesses of the trans movement, Any issue where you've got over 80% of the population on one side and yet you've got the Democrats willing to die on this heel, saying, no, we're going to stand against this. So why would they do that? Why would they stand against a policy where more than 70% of their voters are pro voter ID, where over 80% of the general populate? You would only do it if there's some benefit in not having voter id, which is you're cheating. Why else would you take a position that is so unpopular? They're not dumb, they're liars. There's a difference. And I think you've just got to call it out. I don't know if it's going to be remedied though, because it's going to so difficult to fix this once it's they get this.

[B]

It's so massive in America if they pull this off, if they pull off the voter id, it is so massive for America moving forward. And they will be panicking because they will be losing the, the control. The business model of bringing illegal immigrants in and opening up the borders will not work anymore. What do you do with them now?

[A]

Yeah, and you know what? A lot of the migrants that they've counted on, the ones who came here legally and they just thought we've got voters for life. They're Hispanic. They're going to be voting for us. Well, no. As with a lot of other migrant groups, including Asian Americans, they're socially conservative, they're aspirational, they are not natural Democrat voters. And I think Trump has been just so enormously successful in winning them over. I don't know future Republican presidential candidates will have the same success he's had, but he's shown that they're not lifelong Democrat voters. That's such a, again, another huge achievement for, for President Trump because I think that's completely changed the thinking of a lot of political analysts who just thought, oh yeah, look at the demographics of this area. This seat goes law. No, not, no longer. And it's something I think in Australia and in the uk the conservative side needs to appreciate a lot more that you need to reach out to these migrant communities because they are your voters if you just pay a little bit of attention. They are socially conservative. They don't want their kids indoctrinated with this crazy bullshit at school. They don't want to be crippled with taxes. They want to build wealth. They want to have financial security and they want to have traditional family values. And no parties on the left represent those things.

[B]

By the way, this is Chuck Schumer. This is one of the clips.

[A]

How long has this idiot been in power?

[B]

Oh, longer than you and I have been in line.

[A]

This is, I mean, there's this thing to be said about term limits, isn't there?

[B]

Yeah, Rob, you have this. Go for it.

[D]

Let's admit the truth. Everywhere people go, they're asked for a Social Security card. In fact, one way to prove you're a bona fide person who can have a job is to ask for a driver's license and a Social Security card. This is an anti fraud amendment. All over where we go, people say, well, why can't you stop illegal immigrants or others from coming here? And the number one answer we give our constituents is when they come here, they can get jobs, get benefits against the law because of fraud. What they are proposing in this so called save act is like Jim Crow 2.0. Let's admit the truth everywhere.

[B]

It's politics, right? They're playing politics and.

[A]

But they're playing politics. He is taking a position he knows three in four Democrat voters are against because he knows they're getting a benefit from those illegal votes. Otherwise you wouldn't, why would you take, I mean it normally takes a real bravery to take, take a position that a minority supports and you would only do it if, if you're Getting a benefit. And so they know they're getting a benefit. I don't know how big that benefit is, but it must be significant for them to die on this hill.

[B]

By the way, what do, what do you think about what happened with Australia? The 4.7 million social media that, you know, kids under age of 16.

[A]

Yes. The UK is doing this now.

[B]

UK is doing it as well. What do you think about that?

[A]

Oh, look, we've got something called the E Safety Commissioner. She is a mat. She's an American and she is anti Trump, anti, anti conservative. To me, she is a massive political activist who is using that position to push her belief system. Julie Inman Grant is the name of the Safety Commissioner. Julie Inman Grant. She's said some very troubling things over the years about free speech and she's in charge of that. So anything she touches automatically dubious about the office of the Esafety Commissioner. And she's. The Esafety Commissioner was designed to protect children from online predators from what's happening online that can target them. It's morphed into something entirely different. It's now, she tried to, for example, get the video of a bishop in Australia being stabbed in a alleged Islamist terror attack. She tried to get that removed from the entire Internet, not just from Australia, but from around the world. So Elon Musk actually took her to court and ended up winning on that one. She has taken down tweets from breastfeeding advocates saying men can't breastfeed. Like she's.

[B]

Stop it.

[A]

No, she's, I mean, when I say she's a political activist, there's, there's no doubt in my mind she is a political activist. That's her. And I think people say, particularly in Europe, that can affect America's First Amendment rights by putting controls on X via European laws and laws, perhaps in Australia. Because if these social media companies don't play ball, they can get hit with crippling fines. We're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars a day, I think. So that's. Yeah, that's one of the things to consider. So again, this under 16 social media ban, a lot of well meaning people were in support of it thinking, you know, kids can be free of their devices, online bullying, all the perils that come with being on social media 24 7.

[B]

But, oh, she was the one that said remove the Marmari Emanuel stabbing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Syrian.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, do you know the story behind it? What happened? He was on this podcast, came here from Australia, did the podcast. He made a couple comments about my Jesus and your prophet Muhammad. Yeah, and he criticized it. The next week he goes back to preach and a 19 year old who saw the podcast went and stabbed him in the eye. And while he got stabbed in the eye, he prayed for the kid that stabbed the guy in the eye. This is Bishop Marmara Emanuel.

[A]

That was a miracle. The fact that. Full on miracle that he didn't die. I think the knife was a flick knife and it didn't come out properly or there was something. So he was injured certainly, but. But he lost one of his eyes and they. Yeah, that was.

[B]

So this was her doing.

[A]

So she wanted. And it did come down and it was something that Elon Musk actually. But if you don't have someone like an Elon Musk, then you know that the power to just strike down what you don't like is. Yeah. And everything she has struck down seems to be from one side. And so. Yeah. So though. Well, some well meaning people were supportive that under 16, I think it's very sinister. I think it's got all sorts of unintended or perhaps intended consequences that come with it that are no good. Not, I mean to have kids not be available on YouTube. I mean, are you kidding me? They can access porn sites but they can't access X or YouTube or Instagram. I think that's a parental decision. Not. Not something the government should be enforcing.

[B]

Very. Our guy in the back right now is probably doing backflips. Humberto is fully on the same page with you on that. By the way, this Julie lady that you're talking about. When she graduated from college, she got a job to work at CIA. She turned it down and then she went and worked at Microsoft from 1990 as a government affairs manager and then moved to Australia to work still for Microsoft. And then she went into government and then you know the rest.

[A]

And she was appointed by a terrible, terrible liberal government. So in Australia when we say liberal, we actually mean the right wing. So it's the opposite to here. So we've got. The Liberal National Coalition is supposed to be the center right, but often, like I said, they have been liberal in name only and they will make decisions like appointing this activist. And I think it's been absolutely disastrous. She's now lost. There was another woman who took her to court recently, just this mum, a single mum who has had two years of her life really taken over by these sort of legal issues because she posted something about this pro trans activism, this radical gender theory that was being taught to primary school kids and she made a post about this shouldn't be taught to primary school kids. And the Safety Commissioner struck it down, said, no, this post needs to be removed. This lady fought her one, the Safety Commissioner, Julian Man Grant then appealed it using taxpayer funds. And so this woman then had to go to, I think the next step was the federal court and she won there again. So. But I mean, it takes guts to do that. No one wants to be in legal fights, the costs, the stress, the whole. But yeah, this is what we're dealing with in Australia. So you've got the First Amendment here we don't have it.

[B]

And do you ever get in trouble first because you're pretty vocal. So do they come after you?

[A]

Yeah, they'll come after me with. They try to silence you through different measures using lawfare and codes. And the most recent one that was actually chucked out was someone tried to take me to the Australian Human Rights Commission for saying something that they deemed to be, I think, Islamophobic, which was ridiculous. It was post October 7th. So, yeah, good luck to them. But it is, it is it. The law fair is an issue. The law firm.

[B]

Why do you live there instead of here? Because you're a dual citizenship.

[A]

So I should be. Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I think ultimately I'll, I'll be here. I just always thought that from when I was a little girl, I always thought I'll eventually live in America. So that's still in the back of my mind. So, yeah, we'll see. Yeah. Half the problem is where do you live? There's so many good places you could go. I mean, I love Florida. There's quite a few places I love in Florida. I love Texas, Tennessee, Arkansas. I mean, how, how do you pick? It's hard.

[B]

It's a good thing though. You got choices.

[A]

You got choices. But when you've got a free choice where you don't have like family or some, you know, job that's keeping you in a particular location, it can be overwhelming, the choice.

[B]

Well, if you're an Islamist communist, New York City could be a great choice.

[A]

Well, yeah, maybe I'll just go back to my Iranian roots and move to Manhattan.

[B]

Just gonna go.

[A]

That's it.

[B]

I'm gonna go to New York. No, but you know, for us, I mean, I lived, I lived in LA for 24 years and then I lived in Dallas for 5 years.

[A]

Nice.

[B]

Love Dallas.

[A]

I love Fort Worth more than Dallas. Dallas. I don't know, seems a bit.

[B]

We lived in Plano, we lived In Plano.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

So Plano, it's Dallas, but it's, you know, 10 miles north, 20 miles north.

[A]

I love McKinney and McKinney's great. And what's that? Grapevine and Branbury. There's a lot of places.

[B]

You go to Dallas a lot?

[A]

I go to Texas a bit. I love Texas. I love a Texas road tree. But like, I love the little towns. They're my favorite, the ones. The little towns next to the big towns. I find the best parts of America.

[B]

We fell in love with Plano.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If it wasn't for the love for water, we would have probably stayed in Plano. That's the thing.

[A]

Texas, relax is good. Beach they've got. Yeah, that beach ain't good.

[B]

You're not going to go to Galveston, you're not going to go to Houston, Galveston beach and seeing stuff that I shouldn't even say right now on the podcast. But no Florida. The good thing about here, you just have to know when, when the, when the, the President is done being a president, he's going to be coming back and living in Palm Beach. So what's happening right now to Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Palm Beach? It's insane what it's taking.

[A]

And I love the Florida Panhandle. That's my favorite little part of Florida.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Have you been up there much?

[B]

Which, which city? Specific city.

[A]

I love Seaside, Watercolor, Rosemary Beach, Seagrove. That's all like all together and they are just so beautiful. The beaches are so spectacular.

[B]

Click on the map.

[A]

And the homes are. There's just a uniformity with Panama City. I love it there, which is glorious. I think Seaside is actually where they filmed the Truman show, perhaps. Yeah, it is. And is it? So they've got, you know what? I normally don't like mad bureaucracy, but there, that must have rules around what you can build. But everything is beautiful and, and you know, so Rosemary beach is sort of a bit more European feel, whilst watercolor is just all white. And so who knows, maybe we'll have white houses everywhere.

[B]

Maybe we'll have you in Florida.

[A]

Yeah, Panhandle. I could be very happy there. But it is stupidly expensive even for Australian because, you know, Australian house prices are crazy.

[B]

How crazy?

[A]

Crazy like really, you look at Australians, look at Miami even and go. Just salivate at what you can get for your money. It's like if you want to buy a one bedroom apartment in a good part of Sydney, you will spend over a million dollars.

[B]

Like you have to for a one bedroom.

[A]

For a one bedroom apartment. Plus probably no parking. Yeah, you want to be in Vaucluse, Double Bay, Point Piper. Like if you want to be one of the nice suburbs of Sydney and you're going to get in to the cheapest property in that suburb, you're still going to pay over a million dollars. Where's that? I don't even know what Warn Bro is. That would be out.

[B]

Well, that's Rob's area. Rob likes Warmbro.

[A]

Oh, is this in Australia or here?

[C]

Yes, Australia.

[A]

So I've never even heard of it. So it must be some trip out. I don't know what, I don't know where you go.

[B]

Where is Australia?

[A]

But yeah, even if you buy property in the country, you are spending a lot of money. Warn Bro is in. Oh yeah, look at you, middle of nowhere.

[B]

Rob, what are you doing?

[A]

Rob, you're like, what, over an hour

[B]

from your realtor in Australia, that's.

[A]

Oh my God. If you want to look, have a look at the cheapest property, say in Vaucluse or Point Piper or Double Bay. Look at the cheapest property in Double Bay. Double Bay. You might find an apartment for like seven, eight hundred, a thousand if you're lucky. If you're super lucky, a studio.

[B]

Does it allow you to say Double Bay? Rob, just type in Double Bay in the filters.

[A]

It's gorgeous. Part of the world, but yeah, it's crazy expensive. So the median house price in Sydney is over a million. That includes all the outer suburbs. So like, you know, so that's. That's the median. Okay, so if we find, okay, they're all houses, we're not going to be able to afford those. Let's just find there's an apartment we can. Yeah, that's not going to be affordable. And we're going to be homeless at this stage. It's not working for us. We're going to be homeless. So yeah, something like that would be at least 10 million.

[B]

Oh really?

[A]

Yeah, at least Elizabeth Bay. Similar.

[B]

Interesting. So. So a lot of wealth is there for people to be able to afford that. Right. So money's being made wealth.

[A]

But there's a lot of massive mortgages. So Australia people are comfortable taking out insanely massive mortgages that will take them 30 years to pay off. Because that's how you have to enter the housing market. But even if you buy properties in the outer suburbs, it's still. Yeah, so when it says about 690, 000 for a new home loan nationally, that's Nationally. So that's the cheap areas.

[B]

So that's a Warmbro where he likes.

[A]

Yeah, good on you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So average mortgage in New South Wales near is828,000. That's a lot.

[B]

Holy moly. 828. That's insane to have that type of prices. So when. When.

[A]

So Australians work to pay off mortgages. You pay if you're buying a property. It's. Yeah, it's. And in Victoria where I am. So Victoria used to always be second most expensive after New South Wales or Sydney and it used to be very close Sydney, Melbourne. But we've had a very hard left government in Victoria and it's done some bad things to our property prices. The rest of the country has been going up, we've been stagnating, even going backwards sometimes.

[B]

So you're not selling people to move to Australia. Are people leaving Australia or. No?

[A]

No, because it is a peaceful country, it's a prosperous country relatively. So it's a great place to live. But this current federal government we have is very left. They're making as a Living standards have dropped. In fact I think in the OECD we have had the biggest drop in living standards in recent years because of some of the policies that have been implemented there. We went insane with COVID particularly the state I live in Victoria. Melbourne had six lockdowns, the most anywhere in the world. And you know that's crippling. That's crippling for your economy. You can print as much money as you like but you're going to feel the effects. So yeah, as Australia is experiencing significant record breaking decline in living standards. So yeah, that's not ideal.

[B]

No, that's not.

[A]

Yeah. I'm not selling it well, am I? But no, still come, come spend your money. All of it.

[B]

By the way, is it true that Pierce used to be with Sky News and then you came?

[A]

Yes. Did you see Pearson Dave Rubin are having a massive fight. I was surprised. I was surprised by how personally got right. Yeah. Because Pierce was on Ruben's show and I know Dave Caldwell and he. Dave. Dave told him why he doesn't like do the show and what it's kind of dividing into And Pierce didn't say anything back. He was kind of understanding. And then it's got all ugly online. I'm like just duke it out whilst just sitting opposite.

[B]

Dave said something back. He says pretty sure Megan got some of the Botox.

[A]

Well yeah, that was.

[B]

Would sell that his mother to a jihadist.

[A]

Everything else okay. All right.

[B]

I was at 17. So that, that, that comment and then from there Pierce got into It. Four months ago, I drove out to Ruben's podcast at his home in Miami. Personal favor because he's done my show many times. I thought we were friends. How wrong could I be? What a treacherous little weasel.

[A]

Treacherous. Yeah. They've gone. They've gone.

[B]

So what do you think about this whole Israel thing? Because that last sentence, right, being Netanyahu's useful idiots has sent him and Shapiro nuts. Every time this Israel, Netanyahu comes, people on both sides lose their mind. Why do you think that is?

[A]

Look, we were talking about this in Melbourne recently. I was with group of members of the Jewish community. It was a function, and we talked about this, and I've talked to Jewish friends about this a lot recently because there is this fracture on the right where an increasing number are anti Israel, you would say, or at least very cynical about Israel, I would say, rather than anti Israel. Cynical about Israel. And it's something I think the Jewish community certainly in Australia is very much aware of and, and something that some of them understand what's behind it. I think there's a lot of factors, but, yeah, I think it's a real concern for them because they know where the left stands on this issue. The left have made it very clear, particularly post October 7th, where they stand and to maintain support on the right, I think they have to change the tactics a little bit. And again, I'm generalizing here. When I say they, I'm talking about the lobby in general. But this cancellation, if anybody says something that is a little bit different to what you want or is a little bit critical of whether it's Netanyahu or Israel's stated position to. I think there's been an eagerness by some, not by all, by some, to immediately attack that position as anti Semitic. And I think that's really counterproductive, productive. And I think that's behind some of the sentiment we've seen where people are not happy with people being canceled or attempting to cancel people because they have taken a position that the lobby may not agree with. I think it's just unhelpful. And I, I think. I don't like the principle of it. I think people should be able to say what they want. Unless you're threatening or saying something that breaches the law, then counter it with arguments. Don't counter it with trying to get their advertisers canceled or try to de. Platform them as some sort of, you know, undesirable who, who, who cannot be reasoned with. I think there's just been a little bit of that from certain segments of the community that has been really counterproductive. I've seen it here in particular, but also in Australia, so. But yeah, there is this growing wing of the right that is becoming more and more hostile towards Benjamin Netanyahu in particular. It is, it is interesting and I think it's something that Republicans have got to be aware of. You can't ignore it. You ignore it at your peril. I still think it's a small minority though, because there's so much talk about magazine fractured and it's disintegrating. And there was another poll recently against CNN. 98 of MAGA stands with Trump. So if that's a fracture, then that's pretty. Well, that's a pretty well handled. Yeah.

[B]

20, 25. When they showed that, that, that, that clip is from July20. I've seen that clip when they showed it. It'll be. You know, the one thing with him is he is a guy that gets ahead of it. He watches all the numbers, he watches all the polls.

[A]

I mean, I just don't understand some on the right who say I'm not voting for Republicans. Or even before the election they were saying not voting for Trump. What are you then backing? I mean, he may not be as pure ideologically as you want, but look at what he's done. What other Republican would have achieved half of that? And what would have Kamala done? I mean, that mindset I do not understand. I can fully understand if you've got some rhino that you don't want to vote for, go for it. But if Trump is not strong enough for you, then I don't know what is. I mean, there's things he says or does that I don't agree with. But you're never gonna have a hundred percent right. In agreement with anybody.

[B]

Did, did you do ever do Pierce's show? Did he ever do your show or you guys have his.

[A]

I must have done his show at some point, but I mean I took over his time slot at Sky News, so he was with us and I think he had fairly long term contract. I think it was like five years from memory. And then after a year or so he, he went off and did his own thing. And so yeah, I took over his time lot SOT in Australia, but it was a show he did that also ran in the uk So I don't know who took it over in the uk but I've never done this current version of his program which is very shouty.

[B]

Very shouty?

[A]

Yes, very shouty, which is what I think Dave Rubin was objecting to. I don't mind the shoutiness. I mean, I see clips every now and then, and I find it amusing. Some of it's quite funny.

[B]

I think someone's gonna do it. Someone's gotta do it. And I think Pierce is the right guy to do it, because Pierce is not afraid to get out there and wrestle with the pigs and then go talk to guy that's running for office and then go talk to president, go talk to Ronaldo. I think he's talented, he's made for tv. And so whatever people want to say, the guy was made for tv, tv, period.

[A]

But I think this product is ideally suited for him because, like you said, he can moderate it, but he can also moderated with. With State also stating his own opinion. So he's not just.

[B]

Yeah, it's fearless. But, you know, Ben Shapiro made the video about him. I think Ben said something about him. And then, you know, Ben and Dave Rubin are part of the same camp and they're on the same page. And Pierce. I don't know if Pierce is part of any camp. I think he is.

[A]

Not to me, he's not a conservative. To me, he's a genuine centrist. Because there are some things he's very conservative.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

And other issues where he's very much on the left. So to me, he's a genuine centrist where his political belief sort of spread over the whole spectrum. I mean, during COVID Pierce and I would have been very much on opposite sides of the argument. We would have had some shouting matches. If he had the program back then,

[B]

he was pro vaccine.

[A]

Look, he was very pro everything. He was pro lockdown. He was bloody getting upset with people who were breaching these irrational laws that existed in Australia and the uk. I mean, the stuff we had in Australia was so insanely idiotic, it beggars belief that people accepted it and people did accept it. That really changed my view of Australia, I think, forever, because I never saw us like that. I never saw us as so compliant and so scared because there was the scare campaign. It was across the media, across all levels of government, and people fell into line. So in Victoria, you couldn't go fishing, you couldn't play golf. They banned playgrounds for a period, so kids couldn't go and play in playgrounds. They had a five kilometer radius around your property that you could go to. So there was. There was only for a period, five kilometers. So, I don't know, three and a half miles that you could. If you went outside of that, you'd get a fine.

[B]

Isn't that amazing?

[A]

Big fine they had. We had curfews. You had to be home by a certain hour. I think it was like 9pm it was something quite early. And we also had only an hour you could be outside exercising per day. So. And the safest place was outside. Safest place was to be outside. And you know all these crazy rules that I'm sure you had some states here in California, New York, where you could be in restaurants but you could only take your mask off at the table if you got up to walk, you had to put your mask on or, you know, like just so many irrational, insane laws that no thinking person could look at and go, this makes sense to reduce the spread of the disease. But people accepted it. We had border closures between states, so we had people trapped between state lines, not able to go home for months, people leaving caravan parks. We had people who, whose family member was dying and they couldn't go across a state border to say goodbye, see them one last time because they weren't allowed. The state borders were closed. So if you went from, you want to go from Victoria to New South Wales, you either were not allowed or you'd have to go into quarantine. I mean the, the laws we had in Australia were Chinese Communist Party level crazy and particularly in Victoria. That was the epicenter of the COVID scare in Australia.

[B]

Who does us. Who do Australians look at their enemies or competitors? Because we have our own. Every country has one. Who, who does Australia look at as their enemy?

[A]

Enemy? Like we have a rivalry, a friendly rivalry with New Zealand being next door and we have the whole Anzac history. Australian, New Zealand. China I guess is seen as a threat because as a threat they're in our region, they would be looking at us. They've bought huge amounts of land there. So yeah, there's obviously a concern about China and its global ambitions and how aggressive it can be. So there's always an effort to, with the smaller countries in the South Pacific, to have them on our side as opposed to have them being bought off by China. So China is obviously seen as a bit of a, a threat, but also it's such a, you know, huge economic power that we, we use. I mean, a lot of our exports go there. That would probably be the main one, really. There's really nothing else in our region. Indonesia is very close to us, but I think we see Indonesia as pretty friendly. Australians go to Bali, probably more so than any other country that's in, in our area for holidays, maybe New Zealand would be more. But yeah, so I think China was the only one that immediately comes to mind there.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

And there's a real love hate relationship with America because our media is so hideous when it comes to reporting on America. It's just imagine msnbc, cnn, Guardian regurgitated across the board. That's, that's the media coverage of U S politics. So you've got Australians genuinely worried about some of them coming for a holiday to America because they think, you know, it's living under fascism. You've got some of that sort of misinformation that's, that's been spread. But, but yeah, there's a real affinity with America as well. I mean we, we share so much.

[B]

Very cool. I saw you made some comments about James Telorico. What do you think about him? James, James Telo.

[A]

Oh yes, the liberal Obama.

[B]

Yes looking guy. That's Christian and he's gonna be the crazy. Amazing.

[A]

He gives me a crazy creeps and his.

[B]

The left loves them.

[A]

I, I don't know, he just kind of, you know, some people just, you immediately kind of on edge about them. That could be unfair because I am judging a book by its cover there but everything that comes out of his mouth is disturbing to my mind. I don't know how the Democrats think Texans are going to embrace someone who says God is non binary and that what he loves most apart from his own family are trans children. Like what a weird thing to say to me. He's just a weirdo. And this is the thing amongst the left, you know what, they have so much going for them when it comes to the culture. They've got the whole culture, they've got Hollywood, they've got the mainstream media, they've got pretty much every sort of, you know, social media platform other than X. They should be in power perpetually but they just cannot help themselves being batshit crazy. They get crazy and then they get crazier.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And, and if it wasn't for that, if they could just at least pretend to be normal, they will probably be in power uninterrupted because they have everything going for them as far as the media is concerned.

[B]

And by the way, this is like you ever see those clips Rob of how these Miss America or Miss Universe ask her what do you think about world P? You know, you know, and they say the dumbest things. This was his moment.

[A]

This is remember the maps question for. I think it was Teen Miss usa. That was great.

[B]

What is that?

[A]

Well a girl was asked about something about maps that she Gave the most convoluted, crazy answer. Maps was bad maps, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah. That one.

[B]

This one.

[A]

Oh, this girl.

[B]

Oh, South Carolina. Yeah, I've seen this. This the best one. Go ahead, Rob.

[A]

Americans can't locate the US On a world map. Why do you think this is?

[B]

I personally believe that US Americans are unable to do so because some people out there in our nation don't have maps. And I believe that our education, like such as South Africa and the Iraq everywhere, like such.

[A]

Why is she mentioning South Africa? Should our education over here in the US should help the US or should help South Africa? It should help the Iraq and the Asian country.

[B]

I mean, it's like, stop. Can you imagine? Parents are like, honey, I'm begging you.

[A]

She's just saying words at this point.

[B]

Is that Mario Lopez? Is that really?

[A]

I love the look on his face. Look at that.

[B]

By the way, this was her moment. Now watch James Tellarico's moment with his answer. It's a similar answer, but watch something

[A]

that you love that's not family or friends. I love. I'm just saying this because it's on my mind.

[B]

The trans children who showed up yesterday

[A]

at the state Capitol to advocate for their humanity, they shouldn't have to, but it was an inspiration to watch. Oh, great. Yeah. So what I mean about creepy, that's exhibit A right there.

[B]

I mean, a lot of people are getting behind them. They're like, hey, you know, they got

[A]

up behind Beto Beta, whatever the hell was his name. I think he's that 2.0. Okay, so you put him in that 2.0, maybe 3.0. I just think he's going to be a media sensation. They're going to pump him up. I just can't see him getting elected. If he gets elected, then, wow, there's some real problems.

[B]

Did you think Mamdani would get elected?

[A]

I did. Because New Yorkers are crazy. So, like, you keep electing crazy, you get Grace crazy. And I have very little sympathy for them. I really do. Because like you said, it was a democratic process. It wasn't foisted upon them. It's not Iran. They chose that. Good luck. But I do worry about states like Texas and even Florida, though the last election showed it's not such an issue here yet that you got this influx of New Yorkers and Californians. And sadly, many of them will keep voting the same way, backing the same sort of politicians who ruined their home state. And it's, it's, it's. It's going to Be an issue. And I think it's going to be an issue as far as New Yorkers are concerned, because a lot of them are leaving. I think. What? Zucker. Zuckerberg's just moved to Florida too, in April. I think he's gonna move down here.

[B]

He bought a small place for 174 million.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah, just a small, tiny place.

[A]

I'll never forgive him for what he did in 2020.

[B]

You know what?

[A]

I know he's pretending now to be all sort of, you know, I'm a centrist.

[B]

He's baptized and converted.

[A]

Nonsense. He donated what, 450, 500 million of his own money?

[B]

Yes, he did.

[A]

To fortify the election, as they called it. No, you don't do that. And then three years later suddenly have some conversion. Some moments.

[B]

His defense he had when the, when the, when the President got shot, he was being interviewed on a podcast and I think it was like 24 hours later or something like that. And he said, did he say, is that the most badass moment I've ever seen in my life? That's the one right there. Yeah. I don't know if you've seen this.

[A]

No, look, I mean, there's obviously a lot of crazy stuff going on in the world. I mean, the historic events over the last, like, over the weekend. And I mean, on a personal note, it's, you know, seeing Donald Trump get up after getting shot in the face and pump his fist in the air with the American flag is one of the most badass things I've ever seen in my life. But, and I think, look, at some level, as an American, it's like hard to not get.

[B]

Yeah, she's a liberal.

[A]

Can I respond to that?

[B]

Go for it.

[A]

I reckon he's smart enough, he's savvy enough to know after that moment Trump had the election.

[B]

Oh, you think that's what it is.

[A]

And that's why he said that. Cuz he knew like particularly he's saying that it happened part last weekend. So it's days afterwards and days afterwards. That was the, the rhetoric that he can't like, you know, this is going to give him such an incredible boost. His reaction, the fact that he was targeted, it's going to galvanize the supporter base and they're going to come out and vote. So I think that's a reaction to that. I just don't believe a grown man who spends close to half a billion dollars of his own money could have even been more than half a billion. In the end, when you. Because it was multiple lump sums that he devoted to that cause. Then three years later goes on. Now, the guy that I spent half a billion dollars making sure didn't get re elected, I'm now standing next to or I'm indifferent to it. I don't mind who wins. Don't believe it for one second. And if you look at Instagram and Facebook, the meta sites and their algorithm, what they censor, they're still censoring conservative voices. So now he can get stuffed. So yeah, that's going to be your neighbor in Florida.

[B]

Yeah, he'll be in Miami when.

[A]

But that's the thing. They all move that once, once, once the taxes bite, they'll, they'll move to a red state. But yeah, I, I can't believe that his belief systems change that dramatically.

[B]

You know, when we'll know that, we'll know that in the next election if a liberal wins because, you know, there's.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

AOC is making some momentum. You know, she's being on cow sheep. You look at it, she's all over the place. Newsom right now is at the top of the list. You're seeing some different names that are popping up. Josh, Shapiro, Pritzker, all these guys. If our Democrat wins, we'll see how

[A]

Zuckerberg reacts, particularly if it's a Newsom. If he's fled Gavin Newsom's California. I still think he'll stand with Newsom if Newsom wins. Do you? I still, I think Newsom's the front runner. Oh, yeah, that poll shows he's the front runner. I mean, if you look at the polls, Kamala's the front runner, isn't she? Isn't that the one that the polls show? But the betting agencies think CNN showed

[B]

something that had Newsom. This is the first time in God knows how many years, 50 years that a leading Democratic candidate at this time hasn't been above 25%. This doesn't happen at this time. And he was at. It was a CNN poll that came out. CNN poll that they did. That's the one right there. Yeah. This is the first time since 92 cycle, almost 40 years. 30, 35, 34 years. Go ahead, Rob.

[D]

Right clown car. At this point on the Democratic side. I mean, just take a look here. Top choices for the 2028 Demrez nominee. You have a leader, but it's not really a clear leader. It's within the margin area of Newsom at 19%. Then you have former Vice President Kamala Harris at 18%. Quite a weak number for her, given that of course she was the nominee last time around. People to judge who of course has run before. 13%. Alexandria Ocasio Cortez at 12%. This is just a total clown car. It is a total mess. There is no clear frontrunner at this particular point on the Democratic side. Who the heck knows who the nominee is going to be in three, two years? It's been a long time since we've had a Democratic race like this. Yeah, it has been a long time. This is very unusual for the Democratic side to not have a clear frontrunner at this point. National early poll leader at at least 25%. Look at this. This year we get the giant question mark. No. 1, no 1, no 1, no 1. In 2021 there was no incumbent. It was Joe Biden who was there. Hillary Clinton in both 08 and 16 and Al Gore in both 2000 and 2004. At this point we're at least at 25% of the early. You have to go all the way back. All the way back. I wasn't even in elementary school yet. Not even in a pre K19. Must be the last cycle in which there was no clear front runner.

[A]

Probably not. But very unusual looks. Persian.

[B]

She has the beard of a Persian.

[A]

We love theatrics. He says it's a clown show because of the numbers on cnn. He works for cnn but it's. It's a clown show because of the shallow talent pool. You look at that, they've got nothing newsome is there? Most likely. And you look at what he did in San Francisco, what he did in California. The man is a bloody pathological liar. Did you see the lie about. I don't read. And then there's clips of him talking about speed reading a novel like a book. 200 odd pages in a couple of hours. I mean this guy is not even good at lying and, and he's still going to get the most golden run from the media, from the celebrity class, from just every, you know, element of the culture is going to back him. Which is the Democrat advantage. They always get this.

[B]

There's. If there's a ever been a time where a Democrat is sitting on the sidelines as an outsider wanted to get in right now's the time. The last story I want to show you and then we'll wrap up. This story I saw over the weekend and I couldn't believe it. This is about an Iranian girl who. Let me read it Rob, if you could. It's a Muslim man kidnaps a 13 year old Christian girl, Maria and Held her captive for six months. He raped her, forced her to convert to Islam and married her. When her father reported the abduction, the Sharia court ruled in favor of granting custody to the kidnapper. By the way, you can go to the bottom and read Grok Rop. Go, go to the bottom in the comment section and the question where it's is this true? Okay. Yes. Reports from Morningstar News Christian daily. Another confirmed 13 year old Christian Maria Shabazz was abducted July 29, 25th, 2025 and Lahore by 30 year old Muslim neighbor Shahrar Ahmad. Family says she was held six months, forcibly converted and married, certificate ruled fake by lower courts. February 3, 2026, Federal Constitutional Court granted him custody, accepting her statement. Family claims coercion over her birth records. No mainstream debunking found. Rob, go a little bit higher, play the clip. This is Iran for you, by the way, for the people that are watching who are feminists and watch this.

[A]

This is Pakistan.

[B]

Yeah, it is. This is Pakistan, Yes.

[A]

So that's when they took her.

[B]

That's when they took her and they recorded it.

[A]

A list of family fortunes sometimes the family is in on.

[B]

And by the way, you'll see clips like this in Iran. You'll see clips like this in Pakistan. You'll see clips like this all over the place. Anywhere there Shariah law, anywhere where there's Sharia law. So to the average person who sees the saying, there's no way, you know, read, there's no way this is real, this is fake, this can't be real.

[A]

This, this happens in Pakistan. Pakistan is some of the human rights abuses there, the persecution of Christians, the forced conversion of Christians like this and, and, and the fact that, you know, you can rape a child and then be given custody of her even when her parents are fighting for her and sometimes the parents don't fight. It's just so disgusting and heartbreaking. But this is the fate of girls in these countries. And again, when I said at the start, where is the feminist movement? Where are the marches for this? When Trump got elected, we saw these pussy hat marches around the world. They were in Melbourne and Sydney, they were all across the US or across Europe. Where are the marches for this girl and, and so many others like her. It's, it's just heartbreaking. And you'll see what's happened in Afghanistan, as soon as the Islamists take over, they go back to, to instituting these sorts of restrictions, not allowing girls go to school there. Forced marriages. And forced marriage is rape. That's what it is. I mean, forced marriage is almost giving it a clean title. It's, it's rape. You're for. You're raping girls and women, and that's what's happening here. It's just sickening. I wasn't aware of this particular case, but the, the Christian population in Pakistan have it terribly hard. And all they need is to have some accusations. You could have some disgruntled neighbor, work colleague make an accusation that they've blasphemed or they've done. And they will, they, the police will arrest them. They could face the death sentence for blasphemy. But even worse than that, if the mob get to them before the police, they will slaughter them. And that's happened so many times. So that's, yeah, the, that's why the Christian population there has been decimated.

[B]

You know, it's, it's interesting if Iran decided to go get, eventually a nucleus, say they stick around and, and the son makes it. I know he's injured, he's wounded. They're. They're claiming a bunch of different things with pelvis, all these other things that he's injured with elbow, shoulder, all these things when they made the attacks, but he made it, survived it. Even when they were doing the introduction of the new Supreme Leader, he wasn't even at the event. He wasn't at the event. But if, let's just say they retain power and they don't lose, and they, they sit there and they say, you killed my dad, you killed my wife, you killed my son, you killed my sister, you killed my nephews and nieces. I'm going to seek vengeance on Israel and Iran, Israel and us. You know where they're going to get their nuclear weapon from? From these guys.

[A]

Pakistan. Yeah. I mean, that's the frightening thing, that Pakistan has nuclear weapons and not just

[B]

one of them or two of them. Yeah, we got a few hundred of them.

[A]

The mullahs in Iran would use them. I fully believe that would use them. They've said they would. I mean, you look at what their philosophy is, what their stated goals are, they would. And even how they're behaving now. This is sort of almost indiscriminate. Just, you know, they don't mind that they're targeting their Arab neighbors. And the Arab neighbors are going to be, you know, not very happy with them. They don't care. They, they are just having hopefully one last outburst before it's all over. But. Yeah, I'm still not 100% confident. I'm still not 100 confident the regime's done and dusted.

[B]

You got to get rid of 200,000 of them. It's going to take a lot of work. It's going to take a lot of work for them to surrender. So.

[A]

And they've got all the arms.

[B]

Yes, they do. They got all the arms. And if they try to go attack from Strait of Hormuz. And Trump said something today. He said, hey, these leaders with these ships, you got to start having some courage to go through, stop being so afraid. I don't know if he called him chicken or something, but he said something about stop being afraid, go through it. We have to show strength. If they do anything, I'm going to attack them 20 times worse than what. Is this it, Rob?

[C]

Yes, he said it to Brian Kilmeade.

[D]

Brian Kilmeade recounts it right now.

[B]

Go forward. So, Brian, you did a phone interview with the President United. What is his read on this?

[C]

So I asked him, how do you get that? How do you get the prices down? I know how much you care about oil and gas. And he says, tell these tankers to get themselves get to it. We've wiped out most of their launchers. Here's exactly what he said. These ships should go through the Strait of Hormuz and show some guts. There's nothing to be afraid of. They have no navy. We sunk all their ships. He went on to say, he said, look, yet there's risk in the region. The region's volatile. Their launchers, there's just about 150 left. That's just about 20% of totals. They can't regenerate, they can't make any more. And we are in the region ready to act quickly on all these type of attacks. Now, I think they're going to get some naval, additional naval assets, assets in there to do some escorting. But there was a tanker that came through last night, yesterday.

[B]

Successfully, no.

[C]

Yeah, successfully, no problem. And he's saying, come on, guys, get to it.

[B]

So, Brian, you did a interview with

[A]

the Big Ask though. But yeah, if you've got the, if you've got them being escorted by Navy ships, I'm sure they will open it up. But it's a big ask to, to ask them to go through when they're under, under the threat. I understand the Navy has been pretty much destroyed. Yeah, it's not an easy decision. It's not an easy decision, but it's not easy.

[B]

But he is saying he wants to make sure China gets the oil they want. So we'll see. I mean, listen, Stories are so fluid

[A]

right now to get the oil.

[B]

He said he wants China, he wants to help China get the oil.

[A]

Astute analyst would argue that everything Trump has done has been primarily motivated by the the thought of starving China of energy. You look at Venezuela, you look at Iran, Iran, 90 of its oil was going to China. So it's so clever because China is the greatest threat long term. And Trump is thinking like the Chinese think, which is thinking medium to long term, 20, 30, 40, 50 years. And he's seeing the China threat and is tackling it in a very smart way. Starving them of energy is genius. And yeah, that's seems to be a happy consequence or perhaps it was a big part of it then.

[B]

Hegelian dialectic, I think it's called, where create the problem, blame somebody else and then come out and be the person that's going to help save them and be the solution. And hey, China, I'm going to get you the oil you need. I'm your friend, I'll help you out. So if he's doing that, listen, good for him for doing that. But anyways, Rita, great having you on. It's been a great conversation. I'm glad I finally had a chance to meet you. For the audience that's watching this, go subscribe to Leftists Losing it show. You can find it all over the place. She's a rock star. Subscribe to her Instagram, Twitter, X, everything you got. And then anybody that's got questions, you can also ask her question on Manect. Rita, amazing. Looking forward to seeing you move to Florida soon. Hopefully, God willing, we'll see. Maybe, maybe Panama City in that area is going to get you.

[A]

Panama City, that is a nice area. God's own country.

[B]

There it is. It's beautiful.

[A]

Yeah. You're gonna have a place there. Maybe Fort Worth. I like the cowboys there.

[D]

Fort Worth, Yeah.

[B]

You feel safe at Fort Worth?

[A]

I like. Yeah, it's manly.

[B]

You like beaches? Because Australia's got to be Fort Worth,

[A]

but then you've got the Florida Panhandle. Best beaches in the country. So best of both worlds.

[B]

We'll see. Anyways, great having you on. Take care, everybody.

[A]

Bye.

[B]

Bye. Bye.