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Vinnie
Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm supposed to taste sweet victory. I know this life meant for me.
Pat
Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright.
Tom
My handshake is better than anything I ever saw.
Pat
It's right here. You are a one of one.
Tom
My son's right.
Pat
I think I've never said this before. Okay, so a special episode today because this happens to be the 700th yo episode of PBD podcast. 700 episode of Peabody podcast. And by the way, on a Monday, after a weekend, what the hell happened this weekend? Like seriously, what happened this weekend? You got Rob Reiner. We're being told a 78 year old man is found in a 78 year old Rob Reiner's house with a 66 or 68 year old woman who happens to be the age of his wife. And then you're like, what, did they do it to themselves? Because the first thing you think about is Gene Hackman, what happened there? That was a weird story. No, no, it's the sun. Because the daughter walks in and the son may have been it because they were having Hanukkah celebration and things got heated over certain conversations, who knows? And then we hear stories about Australia this entire weekend at Bondi Beach. Bondi beach, whatever they call it. Bondi Beach, Bondi. I've been there with a, you know, man, father and son. Islamic terrorist pulls up, kill 15 innocent people, ages 10 to 87 years old. With a 43 year old man, Ahmed Al Ahmed, who comes and takes one of the weapons away from a guy, gets shot twice, hospitalized, seen as a hero. And some are saying he's a Christian, some are saying he's a Muslim. I, I saw the interview of his parents interviewing that were both Muslims. Most likely is a Muslim, could be a Christian, who knows? That happens this weekend. And the Prime Minister of Australia three months ago said something in a speech, I got to show it to you. And then the celebration by certain people and imam celebrating what happened in Australia. Finally we're waking up. Finally we're doing what we're doing. And all of this happening and, and, and a lot of video clips are resurfacing from a few years ago. One from seven years ago where a man, you, you, you're gonna know who this is. Said if you allow immigrants to come in the way they are in Europe, you're gonna lose your identity. And there's gonna be many events like this happening. And they are, they are happening. Then you have Brown University, who we saw this beautiful young lady she was leading the Republican Party, I think of one of the events at the school time, if I'm not mistaken, and she's no longer with us. And then the suspect, you have videos of him running. What's his background? Is he in 11 Bravo? Was he in the military? Do we know? Do we not know? There's a bunch of things being speculated. And it's fair to say Ilhan Omar had a very rough weekend this weekend.
Vinnie
She's had a rough month.
Pat
Yeah. And.
Tom
And she is rightfully so.
Pat
Rightfully so. But maybe she likes it rough. I don't know. She was the one that was saying that, you know, her brother Ted Cruz is coming out and saying that Marion. And incest, you know, she may be deported, she may be getting arrested. Just a lot of things that's going on over there. And Tim Waltz coming out and talking about the fact that, hey, we're going to even let more Somalians into our state, because that's what we're going to do. And then Bob Iger comes out of nowhere and says, it's not good for Netflix to choir. You know, Ty Warner, this is not good for the market. Says the guy that bought everybody. Yeah, says the guy that bought Marvel.
Tom
Disney, Pixar, Star Wars.
Pat
But no, I don't want. I don't want Netflix to buy them. I don't want that to be taking place. Come on, Bob, step down already. Step down already and go run for politics. Do something else. But I think it's fair to say there's a lot of stories to be covered today. So if you're in. And then, by the way, Erica Kirk tweets that she has agreed to have a private meeting with Candace Owens. I don't know what the date and the details are, but there you go. They've agreed to me. Oh, today. Okay, fantastic. A private meeting. No live stream. The Republicans livestream tweets are off. Okay, so they're having a meeting first before they go live stream. And who knows what that conversation is going to be. But guess what? At least they're having it. You know, some people are saying, how dare she meet? And why would she meet? And why would they. This. And why would this. Listen, diplomacy is nasty. World leaders do this every day, twice on Sunday. That's their job. You meet with an enemy and hopefully they come out of the meeting in a better place. Nobody knows, but we'll definitely talk about that as well. And I think there was even a meeting this weekend that she was a part of, that she was speaking. Right. She was speaking out of town hall.
Vinnie
The town.
Pat
The town hall. Yeah, the town hall with Barry Weiss. That was taking place and so let me get into a couple of these stories. Your American masculinity has a new unit of measurement, the pull up. How many pull ups can you do? We talk about that. Adam chose that story. I'm assuming he can do probably two or three pull ups, at least. Yeah, we'll talk about that. We'll talk about the Brown shooting. We'll talk about Ilhan Omar. We'll talk about Pritzker Bill legalizing assisted suicide.
Vinnie
As if Chicago isn't murdering. Like he's.
Pat
Well, maybe he's onto something. Who knows?
Vinnie
Maybe he wants to break the record.
Pat
Maybe.
Tom
Don't wait for someone to kill you.
Pat
Do it first so you can say some. Nome. California exposed. Nome's California exposed. Number one hub for illegal CDL licensing.
Tom
Really?
Pat
Safety crisis ignites federal fury. And Nicki Minaj.
Vinnie
I love her.
Pat
Listen, I'm starting to become a Nicki Minaj fan.
Vinnie
Love her.
Pat
Over. What's the other girl's name? Bunny.
Vinnie
No, no, no, no.
Pat
Salt and pepper, old school mc. Like, keep on, keep keeping.
Adam
Not a fan of Megan.
Pat
No, stop right there. Blast Gavin Newsom saying he wants to see trans kids.
Vinnie
Yeah, he does.
Pat
End of the road for you. Nicki Minaj says good for her. Bondi Beach. We'll talk about three Americans killed. An ISIS attack in Syria. Trump says vowing to retaliate. And then CNN falls into Trump's crosshairs amid Netflix and Warner Brothers. Paramount 5. We know what that's all about. Because if David Ellison does buy them, some things could change.
Vinnie
And Pat Trump at the. Trump at the Army.
Tom
Navy game.
Pat
Yes, Army. And then we got a few other things here that we got to get through. Anyways, it's a lot of stories, to say the least. Schumer had a bad weekend. Some of the comments he made, the guy just listen. Retire. Retire. I watched LeBron yesterday have five turnovers in the first quarter. Retire already. You're not even a good teammate anymore. He was bitching and whining about, you know, who's the guy that was defending him and accidentally taps the ball, hits his head, is whining, crying. The guy's got to get kicked out, is pulling the ref's arm. LeBron should be suspended for 5 games. LeBron should be suspended for 5 Games for being frustrated that it's no longer his team. And he goes and takes the free throw shot, the technical shot that should have been Lukas. And he Said I've been doing this my entire life. That even J.J. redick says, no, Lucas should have taken it. So, you know, LeBron, Bob Iger and Chuck Schumer should all retire.
Vinnie
Retire.
Pat
Right.
Vinnie
Retire. LeBron, Chuck Schumer throwing the towels.
Pat
We should. Who agrees with this that LeBron, Chuck Schumer, and Bob Iger should all retire. I think that's a good messaging right there. So here's what we're doing.
Tom
Let travel the flopper should.
Pat
Here's. Here's what we're. Here's what we're doing. Four to 700 episodes, folks. If you watch this and you love the PBD podcast, or if you love this and you hate us but you watch it anyways. Either way, we love you. We appreciate you. Here's what we're doing. Go out there and go on X. Okay? Say whatever you want to say about our 700 episode. I will read them. Okay? On X, use hashtag PBD podcast. I'm going to take a handful of them. Give anywhere between $100 to $700 of cash sent over your way because it's Christmas around the corner. So we want to give cash to celebrate those of you, especially those of you that have been with us. Go on X. Hashtag peabody podcast. 700 episode. What you like about Vinnie, Adam, Tom, maybe what you don't like about Adam, maybe what you like about some of the stuff that we do and post it on there. We will pick a few winners and we'll highlight some of them at the end of the show here today. And with that being said, guys, exciting news here on what happened. I got a report this morning. Let me tell you what this report is. Do you know I got the report this morning because of Christmas shopping. We've been doing a lot of Christmas shopping ourselves. My son's got the longest Christmas shopping list he's ever had.
Vinnie
Dylan.
Pat
Oh, my God. And by the way, so many of the items are old dinosaur. What do you call it? He's all into dinosaur dinosaur Legos that we got to go try to find. I'm not. We got to go find. We got to tell Santa to go find. And he's been doing a lot of stuff. So Christmas shopping. You know what this is? Since the Vault till today, I've only not worn these three days. Every day I've worn these. And you know why this is a special week? Because the white and the Navy are officially here being shipped out this week. They're being shipped out this week. So I want to give you A report that I got this morning on how many countries have have ordered these shoes. You ready in order? Okay. Of orders of who's ordered the most, obviously us Is number one. Number two is Canada. Surprisingly, Canada's number two. I have to look to see if Pierre won it or not because I don't know if he believes future looks right. I hope he did. Australia 23. Interesting. Australia is die hard. Fans of the podcast, by the way. Australia 3x UK. Okay, then you got Slovenia. Then you got UAE. UAE makes it in the top 6 of people ordering the shoe. Do you know who's next? Saudi Arabia. Then it's Malaysia, Poland, Croatia, Bulgaria. Then it's Switzerland, Ireland, Czech, Oman, Norway. And guess who's last.
Tom
Oman. Little old Oman.
Pat
Israel is last. They did buy though, but they're last. So somebody there?
Adam
No.
Pat
No discount for the shoes. But guess what? To everybody that's watching this, I. I love the amount of people that ordered the shoes, the interest. Some interesting people earned their shoes and wearing them. I'm in love with them. But for Christmas, folks, Rob, if you can go on a VT merch, I want to show you guys a shirt for Christmas. Especially those of you guys that watch it. Whatever you do, stay up a little bit. Rob, get yours. You're gonna fall in love with these Christmas hats, okay? I'm personally giving these Christmas hats away as gifts to some of the folks that I have. These may be the sickest red Christmas hats in the world ever. Especially at a time that some people are playing the game. Christ, you know, Christmas, what it's all about, celebrating it. Whether it's the green, this is a hot item. Buy 5, buy 10, buy 20. Gift them to others. You will not be disappointed. On the. On the right, that says future looks bright. On the side, it says vtn. When you flip it, I don't even know if it shows the bottom. Future looks bright. It's a sick hat. Rob, if you can sold out last year. Yeah, I know it did. So. But we got a few left. If you go back. If you go back to that page, go a little bit lower. I want to show you that shirt. You see that shirt right there? To those of you guys, the one to the left, can you zoom into that one and go in?
Vinnie
Rob, the hell is on.
Pat
Well, you have to zoom in a little bit, folks. This is like OG if you go in a little bit, zoom in, you will see. Will it go in? A good quality. Zoom in, zoom in, zoom in, zoom in. Can you see it? That's me in the Middle is that.
Vinnie
Me as an elf?
Pat
That's Vinnie as an elf.
Vinnie
Adam.
Pat
That's Adam as a Hanukkah. That's Rob in the back, another elf. And then you got Tom to the right dude, that's. And yours truly in the midd. So on the back of it, I think it says PBD podcast. Rob, if I don't, if I don't. If you don't have it or not, if you want to go to the back. Yeah, right there. All right, go to vtmerch.com play steward and we're about to make a massive announcement about Future looks Bright that I'm excited about. Once it closes, I'll make the announcement to you guys here today. So again, for Christmas, if you order today, things will arrive to you. And anybody that places an order, you get a Merry Christmas Future looks Bright ornament and a Merry Christmas valuetainment edition mug that'll be sent to you as well. So go place your order represent and we'll send the gifts over to you. We'll send your merch over to you this week. All right, so let's get into the story. Rob, what is at the top of the story? What is at the top of the story right now?
Tom
Bondi beach shooting.
Pat
Okay, so let's go to Bondi beach shooting. So Bondi beach shooting at what clips can we show? Can we show?
Vinnie
I've pulled everything that doesn't involve any.
Adam
Type of bodies or anything like that.
Pat
Okay, but we can show. So, so let's go through some of the stats of what we have. Father and son terrorists, ok? Islamist terrorists decide to shoot up an event that's taking place at Bondi Beach, Australia. Family celebrating Hanukkah. Okay? And they shoot up from a bridge, father and son and kill 15 people I believe is the latest number. Ages 10 to 87 years old, 42 plus, still hospitalized. One man named Ahmed Al Ahmed steps up to take the weapon away, which we've all seen. Rob, if you want to play the clip of the hero who just steps up out of nowhere, 43 year old man who I believe has a fruit stand, this man right here. Rob, if you want to play the clip, you know how much courage it takes to do something like this? Oh my God, think about that. And by the way, you know, they teach you in training, if you're in the movies, if you're in the theater and somebody comes up with a gun, you know what they tell you to do in training? They tell you to walk up to them and run up to Them and grab them.
Vinnie
Yeah, exactly.
Pat
Instead the other way around. Not everybody, but somebody for them to do. And look at this guy.
Vinnie
That's the father. The father goes and rejoins the son to start shooting more people because he has more.
Tom
I don't know if you see it there. But the guy who now has the gun, who is the hero, Ahmed Al Ahmed, he walks around that tree the other side and he is struck in the shoulder by the son who shot him. So he could have died right there.
Pat
And not only that, could have killed the son's father and gave him mercy. And the guy still went up on the bridge, grabbed another gun and start shooting. So look, I got a lot of thoughts on this one here. But Vinnie, I'll go to you first. What, what do you know? What was your reaction? What do you think is really going on here?
Vinnie
Well, well, the fact, the fact that father and son, the ide. Like what ideology do you have? And I love people online, everybody's going after me. They were talking crap. They're like, you don't know. And obviously they're going to bring in Israel. I'm like, these are two Pakistani, Pakistan terrorists, father and son. Stop this whole false flag nonsense, bullshit. I'm sorry. It got to a point where I was like, bro, these are two people that have an ideology that is just like kill, kill. Like what does a 10 year old kid have to do with anything? And yes, this was a Jewish event. Guess who they shot? Everybody. There wasn't there was looking for yarmulke people. They were shooting every single person that was there. And just FYI to everybody, they killed non Jews. Just letting you know, they probably shot some Muslims. They probably shot some Christians. They definitely shot some Christians. Okay. And by the way, just two things that drove me crazy. The, the, the response of the law enforcement in Australia was abysmal. For 20 minutes nothing was going on. And there was witnesses that were there that were saying cops were scared, they froze, they were hiding behind vehicles. And what, what drove me crazy too bad is one guy. Rob, do you have the shot of the, the guy that was recording on the bridge from the opposite side the bridge. And we'll just show it was actually the side angle. It was like. But anyway, guys, and yeah, Rob, I'm asking for two seconds. They recorded for 12 minutes. 12 minutes they recorded these guys shooting until they were shot and one of them was killed. Where's the cop? Where's the response from law enforcement? And I was talking with Chad before this in New Zealand, these places, the cops have their guns. Some of them have the guns. They're locked in their vehicle or locked in the back. They have beanbags, they have tasers and they have, what is it? They have batons. Like and by the way, strictest gun law probably in the, in the world. Australia is one of them. Only 3% of the population has, has guns. And this is, and I want to show guys, you tell me what type of training this is a bolt action. I, I don't know if it's a. I find out the name of it, Rob. But look at this, Tell me whoever shot a bolt action, look at this action that he's doing. God, Rob, look at this.
Pat
Boom, boom, boom.
Vinnie
Reload. Dude, that's trick smooth. That guy has been trained.
Pat
He's been trained. There's no way, you know, that's an average guy.
Vinnie
That's not an average guy. And how, by the way, this guy and his father, they had six guns, well trained. It was on a mission. And by the way, this is a pattern. This is a pattern. Australia, okay? D.C. with the National Guards, Syria, soldiers. When are we going to stop pretending? Not us, but the, the powers that be that this is not just a one off and then people like Mamdani who are like this globalized and Fatah, whatever, Intifada, Deli, Furtado, I don't give a damn, whatever the hell you want to call it. When are we going to stop pretending, okay? Because there's one book that these people are following that calls for freaking murder and death of non believers. And if I hear one more person message me and try to say, well, in the Old Testament Samuel was a. You're bringing up one war story in the Old Testament when Jesus Christ came on the scene in the, in the New Testament, where does he call for murder? Where does he call for killing the innocent? Where does he call for stabbing people in the neck? Where does he hook up with a 9 year old? Go ahead, go ahead and try to show me that, okay? This is a different pat. This is something evil and it's brewing. And the last point I'm going to make, I'm sorry for going so long. Do not. And I'm not a fear monger. We don't do fear. Our future looks bright. It does look bright because we have God on our side, okay? But my thing is this. And I want everybody. This isn't fear mongering. This is be on point and keep your head on a swivel. 2 million. Thomas Holman said this last week. 2 million gotaways gotaways are in this country. And don't forget all those Middle Eastern guys that were here lining up, that came in here and that one guy that said, soon you will know my name, soon you're going to know who I am. Okay? So I'm not trying to scare everybody, but be on point and be ready because this is just the beginning to.
Tom
Well, I'll tell you, I am equally concerned by the police response. They appeared to be poorly trained and poorly prepared. They could be great cops, physically fit, good with their weapons. But then there's training to respond to a live shooting like this. And they say that the police froze rather than move. Now, there were two officers supposedly attempted to pick a. A flanking vector to get to the. And they were shot.
Vinnie
Yes.
Tom
And so they, they actually shot. They did not kill them, the two police officer there. But the. The list of people, I went down through it and it was Rabbi Eli Schlanger, who was a respected leader. He was the organizer of the event. Apparently he was up speaking and they took him. They took him down and he was killed. And then Alex Claytman is an elderly survivor of the Holocaust, Adam, that shielded his wife and rolled over on her and apparently was shot twice and succumbed at the scene. So this was a. Absolutely. There was more than just Jewish people that were shot, but this was a. The shooting was aimed at the Jewish people who were there celebrating Hanukkah. And they got their target. Tragically, horribly. They were prepared and they were trained and they got their target. Sadly for me, Pat, maybe you want to pick up from here asio, which is Australia's sort of intelligence agency, Defense Intelligence Agency. They had identified these guys.
Pat
Oh.
Tom
And they were on their list, but after a review, they said they were not an immediate threat. And they also found IEDs that they called capably designed. That was all I could find on it, that the police found IEDs in their car, their vehicle.
Adam
And they.
Tom
They said that they were capably designed. So I guess that what they're saying is, Pat, is that those were legitimate devices that could have been set off.
Pat
Adam, I have a bunch of thoughts, but.
Adam
Well, look, they always target the Jews first, but never last. So if you're thinking, well, I'm not Jewish, I have nothing to worry about, you got another thing coming. Ladies and gentlemen out there. If you're not familiar with Bondi Beach, I've been there.
Vinnie
Me too.
Adam
I have a very good friend and I want to give him his credit. Bondi beach is like Venice beach in LA or Waikiki in Hawaii. And or Ipanema in Brazil, South Beach, Miami. It's a tourist attraction. This isn't some random spot. It's one of the most scenic, well known beaches in the world. And thanks to Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, your historic iconic beach will no longer be known for surf and waves and beautiful people with tan bodies. It is now known as Islamic terrorism hub where people get murdered like sitting ducks, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. When they're just trying to enjoy the beach. And let's be clear here, this was, yes, a Hanukkah event. It's a beach. They're shooting indiscriminately. I. The most ironic part, I guarantee you there's just regular everyday Australians just hanging out at the beach. I'm willing to bet since there's there's been so much anti Semitism in Australia, that someone who got murdered was probably part of the Free Palestine protest. That's how ridiculous Australia has been going. So I had a, I've been having conversations with my one friend in Australia and he was actually supposed to be at this event. He has two young daughters, three and one. And the reason he was going to go is because he was going to take them to the petting zoo and he had a headache and decided not to go. And, and if he was there, him and his kids, his wife maybe would have been murdered. But if you recognize, and I've been texting with him non stop for the past year, what's going on in Australia? And it's been a slow drip. He's like, I don't feel safe in my own country. They're inviting terrorism here. Hamas protest, Hezbollah protest. It's non. It's everywhere. And the reality is this, if you flirt with terrorism. Hey guys. No, come on in. Hamas, yeah, we're all friends here. Free Palestine, sure, yeah. Hezbollah. You're inviting the wolf into the hen house. And the number one thing that I want to convey is this, this whole concept of tolerance. Ppd, We've talked about this. I know this was a major word in your life and you've sort of abandoned the word, right? Tolerance. How about we flip it? Zero tolerance for terrorism. Zero tolerance for people who want to kill you. The west is murdering themselves. There's a common thread here with Canada, with the UK and with Australia. Isn't this all part of the crown, part of the God save the queen. Soon enough there'll be Allah save the Queen.
Tom
It's common uk, the commonwealth.
Adam
So you're flirting with terrorism. You're. You're under the guise these Progressive, weak leaders. Anthony Albanese, Keir Starmer, Mark Carney, Justin Trudeau. These male feminists want to pander to votes, and this is what you get. You're tearing down your own country for the sake of tolerance.
Pat
I got you. So I want to. I want to show you a couple clips here. Elon Musk is on Rogan. They're having a conversation about a book that Gatsad wrote. And the conversation is around. What's the word they're using? Rob, if you can go back to the tweet, can you go back to the tweet? The word that they're using is suicidal empathy. Okay, I want you to watch this here. I want you to watch what suicidal empathy means and the way Musk breaks it down. Go ahead, Rob. There's a guy who posts on X who's great Godsad, and he talks about, you know, basically suicidal empathy. Like, if there's, like, there's so much.
Vinnie
Empathy that you actually suicide yourself.
Tom
Yeah.
Pat
So that we've got civilizational suicidal empathy going on.
Vinnie
And it's like, I believe in empathy.
Pat
Like, I think you should care about other people, but you need to have empathy for. For civilization as a whole and not commit to a civilizational suicide.
Vinnie
Also, don't let someone use your empathy against you so they can completely control your state and then do it insanely bad job of managing it and never get removed.
Pat
The fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy. The empathy exploit. They're exploiting a bug in Western civilization, which is the empathy response. I think empathy is good, but you need to think it through and not just be programmed like a robot.
Vinnie
Right. Understand when empathy has been actually used as a tool. A tool?
Pat
Yes, like it's weaponized.
Vinnie
Empathy is the issue.
Pat
Okay, so he's explaining this. There's two clips I want to go through with this. Suicidal empathy, Right? Suicidal empathy. There's a guy that's going around. Okay, Rob, if you have that clip, there's a guy that's going around asking people if they're willing to take a refugee in. He's got a little clipboard with them. This guy right here, YouTuber. He's asking protesters, okay, hey, we know you're out here because it's not fair what they're doing to refugees. Well, I'm with you guys, but, hey, he's got a clipboard to say, are you willing to adopt a refugee? This is the part where people will act until there's the action and I look how they react to this. Go ahead, Rob.
Vinnie
Saying you're Willing to take the refugees into your home is like rent.
Tom
Yeah.
Vinnie
Maybe an issue.
Tom
Yeah.
Pat
Because they've got, well, going on a.
Vinnie
List of people that's actually willing to adopt a refugee and take them into your home. No, I'm sorry, I can't.
Tom
You can't take one, don't have the space.
Vinnie
My name's Jim. Just because you've got that refuge as well. I'm just wondering if you'd like to.
Tom
Go on a list of people that's.
Vinnie
Willing to actually adopt a refugee and take them into your home. Well, if I had any space. If you had any space.
Tom
Excuse me, sir, Would you be willing.
Vinnie
To adopt a refugee? I would be willing, yeah, if I had the space.
Tom
If you had the space.
Vinnie
So where should we put them then?
Tom
Yeah.
Vinnie
Would you be willing to have a refugee in your own. Yes, if I had room. If you had room.
Tom
It's funny.
Pat
See the pattern? It's funny what everybody else is saying right now. Let me continue with this. Let me tell you what happened in Australia. There's this clip Rod they can go to. Here's what an imam, how he is celebrating what's going on in Australia. Not this one, Rob. It's. You had it a minute ago. You have it up. It's one of the clips that you had up. Keep going, keep going, keep going. Not that one. Not that one. Keep going to, like the six one. Rob. Go, go, go, go, go. You had an up. A clip that's celebrating what just happened. You just had it, Rob. You literally just had it up. So I don't know which one it was. Anyways, so there's an imam that is celebrating in Australia. Sydney, what just took place. Okay, I just texted it to you, Rob. He's celebrating what just took place. And look at the passion he has on what is happening. Look at the passion he has. Look how he is communicating with his folks and what he's saying now. This looks like it's from yesterday after what the event took place. Okay. Okay.
Vinnie
I sent this around.
Pat
Watch this. I'm smiling.
Vinnie
I'm smiling and I'm happy. I'm united. It's a day of courage.
Pat
It's a day of courage.
Vinnie
It's a day of pride.
Pat
Of victory. Okay, so. So you can pause this. This is. This is. This is a clip that, by the way, just so everybody knows in Australia. This is Australia after October 7 event takes place.
Vinnie
He goes, I'm. He's excited and he's happy.
Pat
But this has been happening for a minute now. Let me show you Another one. Here's two nurses in Australia. Okay, guys, call on having a civil conversation with two nurses in Australia that work in hospitals. Look at the way he reacts. Go ahead, Rob.
Adam
How are you, man?
Vinnie
Good. How are you, my man?
Pat
Pretty good. Are you a nurse, a doctor? I'm a doctor, my man. A doctor for what? In hospital?
Vinnie
What, what, what about you?
Tom
Where you from?
Vinnie
I'm from Israel.
Pat
From the Holy Land?
Vinnie
You know what I said?
Pat
I'm gonna be really honest with you. All right.
Vinnie
I'm gonna be really honest with you. You actually got a really, really beautiful eyes.
Pat
Thank you. But I'm so upset that Israeli like.
Vinnie
Eventually you're gonna get killed and you're gonna go to Jahannam, inshallah. They should stay in this world for longer.
Pat
Why do you think? Why do you think I'm gonna get killed?
Vinnie
It's Palestine's country, not your country.
Pat
How are you? What's your name?
Vinnie
One day.
Tom
One day your time will come and.
Vinnie
You will die the most.
Pat
Just keep watching. We spread.
Vinnie
Listen to me.
Pat
Peace. Listen to me.
Vinnie
And you spread when your time comes.
Adam
How are you?
Pat
Doctors? Wait. I want you to remember my face. Okay? Okay. I have a question though. All right. All right, for sure. I have a question though. I have a question.
Vinnie
Let's say, let's say an Israeli, God forbid them. I won't trace them.
Tom
I'll kill them.
Vinnie
You'll kill them?
Pat
So if an Israeli is in, in Australia and God forbid something happened to him and he comes to your hospital, would you kill him? Okay.
Vinnie
You have no idea how many Israeli.
Pat
Dog came to this hospital and. All right, so what is, what does that sound like, by the way? Again, this, this is the part that, that, that a lot of people keep talking about. I, I said a few words yesterday. I cannot believe you're saying the false flag. This is what's going on. They're trying to use this to ID and Australia is going to use this to increase the tensions. And Israel's loving this because they're going to use this to try to, you know, silence them. And they're going to use it as. You cannot say any opinions because of what's going on. This is all an act. Really? Yeah. Okay, check this out. Check this out. Two Australian, two terrorists, Pakistani terrorists, Muslim jihadists in Australia who are not from there. They went there as refugees, killed 15 people, ages 10 to 70, 87 years old. Can you pull up the picture of the young 10 year old girl that was killed? Rap. 10 to 87 years old. Okay. This 10 year old is someone's daughter. There was a French soccer player that also got killed there. 19 year old, 20 year old French soccer player that also got killed. You can get the list on BBC. This is Matilda, that's someone's daughter, okay, that was killed. So while this is happening, the guy that saved him happens to be a Muslim. They say he's a Muslim. Some are saying he's a Maronite Christian, but they say he's a Muslim. And Ahmed Al Ahmed, I watch the interview of his parents of what happened afterwards, gets shot up twice. Does this guy give you the vibes of a peaceful Muslim? Does he give you a vibe of.
Adam
A peaceful vibes of someone who's doing the right thing?
Pat
He gives me the vibe of a peaceful human being. Okay, but check this out. Even hero, even one peaceful Muslim who could have taken the guy's father's life when he walked away, gave him mercy. The other guy, still with the mercy that was given to him, didn't return the mercy and came back and killed him. You let a snake go and you're like, you know what? I'm gonna spare this guy's life. Do you think you let the snake be in the backyard while your kids are playing, that snake's gonna spare your kid's life. No mercy for you. They're not wired like you. They don't think like you. They don't live like you. They don't have the same values like you. They live in a very different way, folks. They live in a very different way. Even if only 10% of them are extremists and they believe in a jihadist and all these other things that they follow. Even if they, even if it's 10%, even if it's 10%, 10% alone is more powerful than the 90%, because the 90%, you notice he didn't even do anything to take the guy's life. He gave him mercy. The 90% was a guy's like, listen, let this man go, I'm going to spare his life. The guy goes up, grabs a different weapon, starts killing people. What do you do then? So, so now Americans are like, well, you know, but this is, this is, this is fear porn. Well, don't listen to me. Listen to another Muslim man who escaped an ISIS environment. And look what he's saying. You have it up there, Rob. This isn't it. Okay, if you can go to the next clip, not this one, Rob, keep going right there, Watch what he's saying. And maybe, Rob, if you can fast forward 20 seconds. When he starts speaking from right there. Yeah, watch this here. When he says it is the beginning. Watch this, folks. Okay, go ahead.
Vinnie
Is the current beginning of the death. It's already happening. There are areas in France where Christians cannot walk freely. President Macron has come out saying that the Islamist movements want to secede from France. This is a leader of a country telling you that he has lost control. He's admitting finally that he has lost control. There are serious agendas being played in that region. Look, I am a Muslim, but I cannot live in an Islamist theocracy. I can live in a Christian government based on their constitution because that is where peace lies. I can't live in a place where ISIS rules the area. That's no Muslim with a brain that works would want to live under isis.
Pat
Right.
Vinnie
And when we come to the west trying to warn the governments and intelligence agencies about what is happening, about the people we fled from, we have this new political correctness agenda that tells us all, we're the racist, we're the ones who are traitors. And the extremist needs to be understood and embraced. And they have a point. Let's listen to them. And sooner or later, they're in parliament, they're in government. And there you go in America, you have Ilhan Oman and Rashida Tlaib changing the narrative in Washington that is now affecting the whole. Influencing and affecting the narrative around the world. Attacking Jews, attacking Christians. And this is just the beginning. So if Christians don't wake up, this.
Pat
Is just the beginning.
Vinnie
Christian leaders don't wake up. Then we Muslims who fled from extremists can't help you anymore.
Pat
We Muslims who escape from extremism can't help you anymore. They're telling you. They're telling you what the DNA is. Now, some may ask the question and say, well, then, why are you still a Muslim? Why are you not a Christian yourself? And that's a, you know, theological debate to have. But here's the vision you got when you sitting there going up against the competitor, and the competitor tells you clearly to your eyes what his vision is. Why are you questioning him? That's their vision. Go ahead and play the vision. Here's a Muslim leader in Chicago these days.
Vinnie
We don't repeat this enough or we don't. We don't have this Aqeedah concept firm in our minds that Islam did not come to coexist. Okay, okay.
Pat
Good to know.
Vinnie
Thank you. Islam, Islam. And Islam is raised high, and nothing is raised above Islam.
Adam
We can't think of Islam that came.
Tom
To live with these other religions in.
Vinnie
The sense that Islamic is a religion amongst those religions and they have a share with the truth and they have a share of justice and they have a share of, you know, this worship of Allah, the correct worship of Allah. Islam came to correct all of that. Islam came to remove the oppression of all those religions. And it is the only truth and it is the only way to justice.
Adam
The only truth, guys.
Pat
It's the only truth. It's the only way of justice. And you, you can continue, Rob. I mean, I can continue. Go to this video here. Here's a man who was in the streets questioning and condemning pedophilia. And look at the students there. They can tell he's pretty well read and reasonable. He can't even answer a basic question. Go ahead, Rob.
Vinnie
He raped a nine year old girl. Aisha is the most injured man in the united of the religion.
Pat
You never see Texas.
Vinnie
He raped a nine year old girl and married a six year old.
Adam
So what defines a child against what defines a child?
Vinnie
I don't, I'm not going to define what a child is for you. A six year old is a child. She was playing with dolls.
Adam
No, a person who goes, enters into.
Vinnie
Puberty in Islam is defined as an adult.
Pat
That's why 13.
Tom
Let's get this straight.
Pat
Puzzle right there. Pause it right there. If you're watching this, folks, do you agree with that? If in Islam, if a child goes and has puberty, it's no longer a child. Do you agree with that? Should we take on that ideology? This is not at University of, you know, Pakistan. This is Dallas, Texas, known as one of the most conservative cities in America. Okay, this, this is not, they're not going to like UC Berkeley. The same dearborn, the same Minnesota. This is Dallas. You know who lives in Dallas? A ton of rich Republicans. He's saying it in Dallas. Keep playing this video, by the way. Watch this.
Vinnie
To have sex with people who had puberty right now I'm saying. But you're acknowledging that in Islam it's okay to have sex with people who have had puberty.
Adam
I'm not.
Vinnie
I'm not.
Adam
I cannot.
Vinnie
In Islam and the adult is defined.
Tom
By someone who has reached the age of puberty.
Vinnie
So you are acknowledging that in Islam it's okay to marry and have sex with people who have reached puberty?
Pat
Yes.
Tom
Okay.
Vinnie
I also believe that having sex with people just to have had puberty is incompatible with the West. 14 year olds hit puberty all the time. You can't have sex 14 year olds.
Tom
I'm sorry.
Pat
And that's the question, by the way. And that's the question. I have. I have a John Morgan the other day, billionaire, who owns Morgan and Morgan. Okay? And he says in his family, he has four kids. They got married to somebody else. He's having a conversation. One of his sons, he tells me, comes to him and says that I'm willing to get married to this girl. She's willing to marry me. But there's a couple things she wants to change in our prenup because they put. They have a very strong prenup, meaning our wealth is not going to go to her if she doesn't sign the prenup the way we write the prenup. Okay, Tom, are you with us? So he does. Is not willing to sign the prenup. So what happens? He says, guess what then I'm not giving the wealth. She's like, but, dad. But I love her. But she loves. No, it's okay. She doesn't have to sign it. But our wealth also cannot be given to you. So it sounds like, all right, cool. So he goes and does what? Makes the girl sign a prenup. And she signs it willingly. And they get married. He's happy. He loves his daughter in laws and father in laws. But guess what? Compatibility does this person work together with the way you are in America? They do this thing called sleepovers. Okay? And I'm not a fan of sleepovers. Now, let's just say a kid wants to sleep over at our house, okay? With me on the floor with three security guards. Nothing upstairs in the room. Nothing by themselves. Nothing. Door closed, Nothing. It's not compatible with my values and principles. It's not. Well, what if they say, but we do it all the time. I don't care what you do. I don't do it. So if somebody's like, well, what's wrong with this? This is their. Their values and principles. It is not compatible with the values and principles of America. It's just not. Should you just sit there and compromise your values and principles? Really? Should that be a non negotiable?
Vinnie
I don't know.
Pat
I don't think it needs to be. I don't think you need to negotiate. You're non negotiable. I don't think. You just sit there like, yeah, it's not a big deal. Let them do it.
Tom
It's okay.
Pat
Come on down. No, no, come downstairs. No one's upstairs in the room with the doors closed. You're 12 years old. No one needs to Be upstairs with the doors closed, get downstairs. Why? Because it's not compatible with my values and principles. America has certain set of rules, guidelines, things that we follow. Then you want to let somebody else just come in and say, no, this is how we do it. No, this is how we do it. And by the way, just so you know, not only are we here in your home, in your country, but we also didn't come here in your home, in your country to what? To not only be compatible, but we also didn't come here to co. Exist. And what Americans say. It's okay.
Adam
Come on in, guys.
Pat
It's okay. It's okay, it's okay. It's okay. Well, you're an Islamophobic. It doesn't bother me when you say that. It doesn't. Vinnie's starting to get death threats right now on his, on his starting. It's been going on for messages and, and, and so you get these messages and what do you hear about. What do you think he thinks is a normal way of going. And by the way, keep this in mind, all this conversation there. Australia you got now happening. UK has been happening for many, many years. You're seeing stories in Europe. You, you have a. Rob, I don't know if you heard what this previous leader from uae. Do you have that one, Rob, who is saying. We. We told you from Europe to be careful seven years ago that this was given. This is not a new one that was given. You're UAE foreign minister issued a warning to the West. Do you have that one, Rob? No, it's in one of the ones in the message that I have in our notes section. Everybody has seen this before.
Adam
We put this on the podcast.
Pat
But, but this is a warning. West. This is a warning. Rob, I just texted it to you. This is a warning. Right there. Okay? Right there. See how long it is? If it's the shorter one.
Tom
45.
Pat
Perfect. That's the one. Watch this. This is. And by the way, he specifically decides to say it in English so he's not. You don't have to translate and not even trust the translation by 2%. He says it to you in English. This is UAE's foreign minister. Go ahead, Rob. And, and let me say this in English so you can understand what I'm saying. I have translation. No, I know you have translation, but I just want to make sure you get it right. There will come a day that we will see far more radical extremists and terrorists coming out of Europe because of lack of decision making, trying to be Politically correct or assuming that they know the Middle east and they know Islam and they know the others far better than we do. And I'm sorry, but that's pure ignorance. He's giving you the warning.
Vinnie
That's like a lifeguard going, guys, there's sharks. So can you go like this? You don't know.
Pat
What do you think should be the solution here, Tom?
Tom
Well, I have an idea about the solution and just backing up to everything and just summarizing what I've heard is what people been thinking. They use diversity. If you're against diversity, then you're a racist and you're bad. And they open the borders with the empathy tool. Their objective was to win elections and bring people in the consequences. They lose the country for all those years. They main control. Democrats maintain control over ethnic minorities as voting blocks here because they gave them something. And so that's the way the Democrats are thinking. They're thinking, oh, we'll just give them this, we'll give them that, and you'll give them the freedom to do this. And conservatives will scream bloody murder. But so what? We got our voting block, but now they're going to lose the country at some point in time. You know, Elon Musk is right. The empathy, the suicidal empathy, we have to recognize what it is that, you know, in business, Vinnie, if I had a contract with you and all of a sudden we're, there's a problem we have and we review the contract, we find out that something wasn't wr there that, you know, anticipated this problem. You know what we do? We do an addendum because it's called the loophole. Well, one of us is using a loophole and we need to tighten this up. You want to say business with me? Yes, I want to stay in business with you. So we have to close this loophole. Let's close the loophole. Make an addendum. Because no one saw Covid company Coming and it's affected us. Pat, There's a loophole in the Constitution and there's a loophole with suicidal empathy. And some leader in the United States has to say, stand up and say that we are now going to put a filter at the border. We've seen enough. I mean, look at all the people that want socialism in the United States but don't want to go. Look at what you can see happened in Europe. They don't want to go back and look at that. You can see the case study. Look how Greece, Greece was among the first and it's been 15 years or more since they had the austerity riots. You know what that was, Vinnie? That was people being told, hey, we told you could have retirement. We told you could have this. We told you could have that. Yeah, we're broke, and we're not going to give you that. And everybody protested. The people that were 55 protested because they were told they had to work five years more. Young people in their mid-20s protested because if their grandparents and their aunts and uncles work five years more, they can't get government jobs. So everybody was upset. They burned cars and big riots. We don't see those case studies, Pat. The case studies are there. There's a loophole in the Constitution. There's a loophole with suicidal empathy, and some leader needs to say, we are now putting a filter on this. And it stops, and it stops now. It's not going to be easy. People are going to say, you're pulling freedoms. You're not in favor of what's going on here? The other side of the Constitution. No, we have found the loophole. We have to close it.
Adam
Well, this is a generational curse within Islam. What do I mean? These weren't just some random people shooting. This was a father and son. Hey, son, what do you want to do today? Should we go, you know, shoot some hoops or should we throw the ball around? Should we play some soccer? No, let's go murder people together. Could you imagine what that even means? You know what this reminds me of? There was a Nova Festival reenactment here, all over Miami, and they reenacted what happened October 7th. One of the most glaring, shocking, disgusting things I've ever seen in my life is one of the Hamas murderers, terrorists called his father and Abba in. In Arabic, I got 10 of them. I killed 10 Jews. The father is so excited to hear that his son killed 10 people. This is not just your normal political ideology. This is a sickness within Islam. No other group would you call your father and be like, you're so proud of me. So proud of you, son. They're going to the beach together. Not to suntan, not to surf, to go murder people. This is what's going on here. It's a generational curse. And the. The biggest issue is with these progressive leaders in the West. They have these big hearts and these very small brains, and they just can't connect the dots. How many times do we need to see this absurdity before you say, you know what, guys? Maybe we should open our eyes and not be retarded anymore?
Pat
No, let them all in.
Vinnie
No, and I, and I really hope, because the writing is on the wall and you're starting to see it creep in here in the United States. I mean, thank God, thank God for the first amendment backed up by the second amendment because these people can't even talk crap about the terrorists because they will show up to your house and put your ass in jail. Okay. And there needs to be some, by the way, and I, I have to.
Tom
Keep reading all the social media laws in the uk.
Vinnie
Oh, yeah. Tom.
Tom
Yep.
Vinnie
This is a Christian nation, full stop. Our founding fathers, this is under nation, under God. We are a Christian nation. If you want to do Islam and all your stuff goes, stay there, stay there where everybody is doing it.
Pat
Okay?
Vinnie
And Pat, you have people like Ilhan Omar and everything. The moment this happened. And look at it, she's Muslim. It's second. She's like, the guns, it's the guns. Take away the guns. That's what they do. Because this is the plan. It's migrate, multiply and then dominate. Everybody's like, no, everything's peaceful, everything's love. The moment they are going to be the majority. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. And I'm sorry, I will be damned if it's going to happen here and to the point, Pat, to make it stop happening. Me and Adam talked about this a while ago and it was a kind of, we had a, a debate here, the consequences for these people. Because guess what? They're doing that. Father and son are doing that. Guess where they think they are right now? Guess what? They think they're with 72 virgins, getting laid. Sorry for my language. Murdering 10 year olds. You're getting laid. That's in your religion. Period, End of story. That's in your religion. They think they're getting laid with virgins right now. So there needs to be consequences, Pat. And I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Something has to happen. And what do we talk about? If you're gonna do jihad like that, just know this. We're coming after your kids. We're coming after your mother and your father.
Adam
They're gonna.
Vinnie
Something has to happen drastically because nothing else is happening.
Pat
Pat, when you said we're coming after your kids, your mother, your father, you're talking about them getting arrested.
Vinnie
Something, something, yes. Something has to happen. These people love their families, everybody. I don't care if you're jihad, Islam, you love your kids. Your mother and father, I think, have to be held accountable. Like the people that get murdered, where was it the mother and father Got arrested because the kid shot.
Pat
Yeah.
Vinnie
And killed somebody.
Adam
Something has to happen.
Tom
That was the Michigan case.
Adam
Yeah, I know you want to move on, but.
Pat
Yeah.
Adam
You know, this whole. Globalize the Intifada. What does that even mean? We've heard so many times.
Vinnie
He loves that.
Adam
We've heard so many times. From the river to the sea, Palestine will be cruel. Most people don't even know what river, what sea. Globalized intifada basically just means go kill Jews wherever they are. I'm so sick of the narrative of I don't hate Jews. I'm just anti Israel.
Vinnie
Oh, really?
Adam
What did Sydney, Australia have to do with Israel? Oh, no, I'm just doing this for Gaza.
Pat
Really?
Adam
What did Sydney, Australia have anything to do? I'm just not a fan of the idf. So you're murdering people in Sydney. There's a failure to connect the dots here. So at some point you have to realize maybe they just hate and want to kill Jews. But they won't stop there, guys. Because if I'm a. If I'm in a Muslim country, you know who the most people scared should be Christians, because they've already got rid of all the Jews. Christians are being murdered in Muslim countries, but in the west, with these big hearts and these small brains, be very fearful if you're a Jew these days.
Tom
Well, the big heart, small brain is called a useful idiot. And they die last. But they die too, because to the radical extreme Muslims, we are all infidels. And they kill the ones that are the most passionate first, which is the Jews and the Christians and they work down the line. And all of the complicit liberals don't know that they're last on the list. But they're on it.
Adam
Oh, they're on it all right.
Tom
Yeah.
Pat
But they're voting for this. Yeah. And FYI again, to me, to me it's very simple. Like if I do business with somebody and we say, hey, I want all our employees to say we're 50, 50 business partners. I say I want all the employees to work from the office. You say, no, I want everybody to work from home. I say I want the finances to be managed by somebody that we hire who is a non interested party of mind or your end to be the finance guy. He says, no, I want it to be my wife. I say, I want our office to be located in XYZ place where it's safe. He says, no, I want it to be at such a. You go through a list of things. List of things. And guess what? You realize you're not compatible and you can't coexist. Guess what do you do? Look, I had a guy that I was going to do business partner with. I love this guy. He was in my wedding. If we were on trips, you wanted to find me, find him. You'll find me. If you wanted to find him, find me. You'll find him. You understand what I'm saying? That's how we were together. Guess what happened one night in Atlanta? We're speaking till 4 o' clock in the morning. Do you know what he says at one of the conversations? He says to me, well, damn, sell me to dream, at least of what's going to happen if we build a company together. I said, sell you the dream. We have to work 80 to 100 hours every week to build this company. And he was like, I don't know if I want to work that hard. And he was making three times more money than I was making at the time. I'm like, guess what? You know what that was that night? It's like compatibility. No, we can't coexist because then eventually I'm going to resent you for not willing to work. And I don't want to be in a situation like this. You stay in your country, I'm going to stay in my own country, and let's see what we can do. We can't stop forcing people to coexist when they simply cannot. By the way, just so you guys know, I just got word right now, Peabody podcast on X is number six trending on X worldwide. The hashtag is. And by the way, this is at a time with a lot of stuff going on. And PBD podcast is trending, so we're looking through it. So some of you guys that haven't tweeted yet keep doing it. We're looking for you and the best ones. Umberto, Rob, pick some people. I'd like to send some people some cash for being with us on our 700th episode that happens to be today. Thanks to the entire team in the back that you guys do your work, all the people over the years that have done what they've done, and all the listeners, those of you guys that have been with us from day one till today, I appreciate you guys. And obviously this wouldn't happen without our leadership team. Tom, Adam, Vinnie, Tom, Rob and everybody else in the back. And again, people in the past that have worked, and the leadership team on the other side that helps us hire people that they do. Having said that, let's continue. Second story. I Want to get into second story I want to get into is what happened with Brown shooting. Okay, Brown shooting. So Tom, I'm going to come to you first because. And the reason why I'm coming to you first because the question I asked you off camera I don't want to ask you right now because I don't want to bring attention to it. But this is something that you're interested in because we know millions of people get up and they're like I want to send my kids to college. And the last thing you want to do is you're raising a good kid. All the things they're doing the right way. And then we see a picture of an innocent 19 year old girl who was the leader of I think this Republican team party that they had at Brown University and she will not be going home to be with her family because somebody decided to shoot up this place. Look at her. Beautiful Brown student go a little bit from Mountain Brook mourned as bright light after tragic campus shooting. Tom, you're what facts, what stories do we so far have of what happened with this event?
Tom
So I'll start with the facts and then I'll get to my, my very, very personal thoughts on it. Well, first of all, they don't have a suspect. Yesterday the news was blaring that, oh, we have a person of interest. He's 23 miles away from campus, he drove here from somewhere else. We believe he's a military veteran. They get to him, apparently they question him, they look at things, not him, not on security cameras, vehicle not in the area, whatever, and so they release him. So around midnight we find that the, that the authorities there, campus police, Providence police, detectives, whatever in the area, nobody has anyone in custody. So as of right now, there's no one in custody at the time we came on the air today. And they've got descriptions of him, things like this. The other is the police collected what's called the brass which is the discharged shell casings and there were more than 40 rounds fired and there's tragically two people were killed but 40 rounds could have been so many more deaths. It's horrible that it is. Now students are saying that the main doors that when they say hall they're not talking hallway. A hall is a building full of classrooms on a college campus. So this particular hall, factually apparently the main doors were open and you could get into the lobby area and I guess there's restrooms, seating areas and then the hallways just street wall where the classrooms are and apparently they did have Badge readers on certain classrooms so you can get in. But apparently hardening the target and access control that there was something was lacking there on Brown. When I visited university, where my daughter goes, there are. That's in the downtown of a US City. There are badge readers on most buildings. So like a homeless or a vagrant or somebody can't be walking in. So I don't know how hard the target was at Brown, but students said he would, that you could walk right in the front doors of the hall. Although there was access control some of the classrooms. So that's what we see there was the target hard enough. And for me, if you're sending your kids to school, the first member president of your. Of your son or daughter's protection club is your son or daughter knowing where you are at all times, knowing where escape routes are, knowing where you know safe rooms are, knowing where the. On campuses, many of them use a police signaling system. It's a post. You hit the button. I think they have this down at Miami College, right in the middle of Miami downtown where you go to these posts. You hit the button, lights go on and it's a bright blue light and it signals people help is on the way. But there's also on. On patrol. You have to work with your. Your kids to know where they're going to be and know where they're going to go because they have to be aware because. Because I am not convinced that the schools are hard enough targets.
Pat
Well, Tom, let me just say this.
Tom
That's my.
Pat
I want you to watch this here. So here's the president, Rob, if I'm not mistaken, asked, what do you know about what happened? Look at her answer, Rob. Basic questions that they're asking. President. This is asking a president six hours after the shooting. What do you know? What was going on in the classroom? What class was it? Listen to her answer. Go ahead, Rob.
Vinnie
Catching up right now. President, with all due respect, six hours.
Pat
After this shooting, and you said you.
Vinnie
Don'T know what was going on in that classroom, how does that happen?
Pat
Were they taking an exam?
Vinnie
Were they meeting for a club?
Tom
I don't know how.
Pat
I don't know. Six hours later, what's the first question you asked?
Vinnie
What were they doing in there?
Pat
What is the first question? Because actually there's a shooting. Tom, I'm the president. You're the president. I come to you, Tom, you won't believe what just happened. You say, what? What? There was a shooting in one of the classrooms. Go.
Tom
Okay, I'll give you my questions. Are we locked down. Is local. Is local law enforcement here with our security?
Pat
Not yet. They're on their way.
Tom
Are we. Are we locked down? Okay, I says, are people says, have we sent out the campus sirens or the campus alarms telling it's a lockdown? Good.
Adam
Okay.
Tom
How many are in that class? Do we have the information for the authorities when SWAT arrives? Is SWAT on scene? Do we have something?
Pat
They're on their way.
Tom
They're on their way. Who is that? Who is talking to SWAT right now about who's in that classroom? How many students are supposed to be in that classroom and the rest of the building? Who is there that we can give all this information to swat? Are campus police ready?
Pat
What have we found on the camera? What have we seen on the camera?
Tom
Yeah, what do we have?
Pat
Which teacher is it? What professor?
Tom
Exactly. Right. What class was this? Religious Studies.
Adam
Oh, God.
Pat
Six hours later.
Vinnie
What?
Tom
Six hours, I am going to know.
Pat
All that and I'm going to go.
Tom
To the microphone and I'm gonna. I'm gonna praise my campus. If it's for readiness, I'm gonna thank the law enforcement and I'm gonna tell the news media. For the news media. The class was this. There was normally approximately 20 in class. You know, in college, students can be in class or not. There's usually approximately 20. A professor and an assistant professor. We're trying to confirm the names of the people that were present to make there, but we are on campus lockdown at six minutes after the first shot. Sirens, rough. We were on campus lockdown. What other questions do you have? That's how I'm the president briefing the media after. To show. To show that all of our system. It's not put on a show, Pat. It's to show that the systems and the training for such an incident are ready and work.
Vinnie
If your kid is in Brown University, get them out immediately. 816Cameras, $71,000 Average tuition a year. And that's the answer that you get from the person. That's the president. Six hours. Do you understand how far. Pat, that's driving to Orlando and half the way back, ok? And this is another problem that I have with these, with these morons, ok? Ben, I think it was. What was his name? Ben Erickson. Ok, you detain the wrong guy, you leak his name to the entire world, all right? You smear his service because he's in the army, and then you go like this, oh, my bad. Not him. That guy's life is ruined, by the way, because the idiots out there are still going to think it's him. Because a lot of people don't follow the news like how we follow it.
Tom
23 miles south of the college.
Vinnie
Yeah, he drove. Yeah, apparently he drove from Wisconsin to go do the shooting here. And what's something that's weird? Listen, every single time they don't show us who it is or they have nothing, it's because they don't want us to know who it is. Allegedly he screamed something before he did the shooting. What do you guys think he screamed?
Adam
What do you think he screamed?
Vinnie
Jesus loves us. If anybody wants to do a side bet, what do you think this guy screamed before he did the shooting and then left. And then the FBI shows this and go, hey, guys, we need anybody have information about this? Oh, you mean a blurry guy in a hoodie walking away from the camera? Yeah, I've seen a million of those in cold ass Brown University.
Pat
Okay.
Vinnie
It's unbelievable that they would just jump the gun on something like this. It's one of the biggest fumbles. And now this guy has had an entire day to get away, get his coverage, take his own life, whatever the hell it is. And this is Rob. What are you about to show?
Tom
This is a teacher assistant that was inside one of the classrooms when the shooting broke out. If you guys wanted to hear firsthand account.
Vinnie
Yeah, why not?
Pat
Joseph Adura was leading an economic study session with around 60 other students when.
Vinnie
He says a masked man entered the.
Pat
Lecture hall armed with a large gun.
Tom
He entered the room and you could just see the panic in all the students eyes.
Vinnie
I was standing in the front, so as soon as he walked in, he immediately saw me and I immediately saw him.
Tom
And then I look to my right.
Vinnie
And I see a bunch of students.
Tom
Running down the stairs, running out the door, jumping on the ground.
Vinnie
Just whatever, whatever it takes to stay alive.
Pat
When you made eye contact with him, what did your mind tell you in.
Vinnie
Terms of what was happening in that moment? And I saw him, I saw a gun.
Tom
The gun was so big and long.
Vinnie
That I genuinely thought like, okay, this is the end of the road for me. How soon did he start shooting after.
Pat
He entered the room?
Vinnie
He just started shooting right away. There was no hesitation.
Pat
Did you see the video of the cops coming in? Did you see the video of SWAT coming in? Get down, get down. Hands up. Get down, get down. Have you seen, have you seen that.
Vinnie
Clip in the classroom? In the classroom? I think I saw a little.
Pat
Yeah, there's a. There's a video of them coming in and you see they themselves that's the one, Rob. That's the one. You want to. You want to play that? Watch this.
Vinnie
Oh, my God, your kids are there. And see who is it? Who's coming in? Thank God. Hands, hands, hands, hands.
Pat
Everybody get your hands.
Vinnie
Hands, hands, hands, hands, hands.
Pat
Just keep your hands up for us.
Vinnie
Obviously there's something going on.
Pat
We're here to help you.
Vinnie
Just listen to what we have to say, okay? All right.
Pat
Breathe.
Vinnie
Anybody hurt?
Pat
No.
Adam
All right.
Pat
Just listen to our commands.
Vinnie
We will get you out of here safely.
Pat
How much longer after the incident did they arrive? How much longer after the incident that they arrive?
Vinnie
I'll take a look right now. And those, those kids, you're not only. They're traumatized forever, okay? Watching everybody get shot and killed.
Pat
The.
Vinnie
Could you imagine, Tom, you have. You have a daughter in college. Can you imagine that? Like, that's their school. And I'm sick and tired of people again over the guns and the guns and why? What do we do? How about some legitimate security at the colleges, at the high schools. And if one more person says, who's gonna pay for it? We just gave another $600 million that nobody wants to talk about to Ukraine. Give me a effing break. Enough already. And stop with the guns. People are gonna find other ways. We need security in the freaking schools. Okay? Everybody just wants to talk about the aftermath, but nobody wants to stop it from happening. Guys, this is America. We have guns. 34% with. 35% of us have guns in Australia. 3%. You have to fight fire with fire. Gun free zones are where people go and shoot. You know why nobody has a gun? You might as well say, come and shoot everybody here, guys. Because we don't like guns here. And this is Brown University, bro. Enough already.
Adam
I'm with you.
Tom
Go ahead, Pat, to your question. 4:05pm the shooting started. The first campus alert was sent 17 minutes after these guys.
Pat
That's what I'm looking.
Tom
That's them letting know, like letting.
Vinnie
Are you shooting 17 minutes?
Tom
Yeah.
Pat
How is that possible, though? How is it possible to move so slowly? And by the way, you said 20 minutes was Australia.
Vinnie
Yes.
Pat
And this is 17 minutes here. Yep. Okay. Rob, do we Emergency Service Australia 10 minutes after the call. Video analysis get. Police officers appear on the scene roughly within the first several minutes of the shooting. Began engaging the attackers about three to four minutes into the gunfire. Shooting begins in emergency 647 and Brown University. Yeah. Wow.
Vinnie
You're paying 71 grand for your kid to go to college for one year.
Pat
Can you pull up the president. Can we look at the profile, the resume of the president of Brown University. I want to know what her background is. How the hell do you lack that kind of urgency? Zoom in a little bit. What is her background?
Tom
$3 million a year.
Pat
By the way, she. Did you say she makes 3 million a year?
Tom
The report that I read said the Brown university president makes $3 million a year.
Pat
She spent her childhood in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Paxton, Bachelor of arts from college where she majored in economics. She remembered the fabric. Pursuing graduate studies at Columbia University, Paxton transferred from there to grad. Okay, got it. 1985, Masters of Arts and a doctor in philosophy and economics in 1985 with a focus on labor. She advised Joseph Altonji on her desertion credit. Kay Paxson. Go a little bit lower. Woodrow Wilson School, Pennsylvania. Is her salary really 3 million a year? Go a little bit lower.
Tom
Let's go find that. And she. She was president in July of 2012, which means she's been president for 13 years, covering BLM riots and everything else. So you would think that she's been through some situations where we realize that. That we have to Harden the targets. 17 minutes, folks.
Pat
Can you see 17 minutes. That. That's urgency. Six hours later, she didn't even know what class it was.
Vinnie
Oh, my.
Pat
Who was. So obviously, you know, urgency is not the top of priority when hiring.
Vinnie
Oh, man.
Pat
Their endowment. You know how much money they're sitting on? Their endowment? $8 billion is the endowment. That's how much cash the school is sitting on.
Vinnie
$8 billion billion dollars.
Pat
It's how much you're sitting on? Yes. She got paid over $3.1 million in 2023.
Tom
Weird.
Pat
I don't know if it's strictly from the school or not. So, Adam, where are you at with this?
Adam
So they're paying 70 grand a year to go to school here, but many students will end up paying with their life. So how many times does this need to happen? Until we say there might be a bigger problem here. I used to be, you know, sort of anti.
Pat
Go.
Adam
No. Why? There's just the guns. We got to take over the. No, because if you learned anything in Australia, if we learned anything, what's going on in Iran, if it's going on in China, if you don't have guns, you don't get to say shit. So the guns protect you from the bad guys. And by the way, even if you take away all the guns, have we not learned that the bad guys are going to get their hands on the guns? Did we not just learn that in Sydney. Have we not learned this so many times? Countless times. The bad guys will get the guns. So, you know, you talked about the book, the Anxious Generation, right? When you talk about social media and comparison and everything like that, Anxious generation. I can't even imagine going to school. Okay, guys, get ready for finals. Here we go. And a terrorist who knows who it was just comes in, starts shooting up the school. This is so common for schools these days. This is not stuff we had to deal with when we were growing up. You talk about anxious generation. When we were in the 90s, everyone was worried about AIDS.
Pat
They.
Adam
They completely blew blue braids. Blew AIDS out of proportion. Oh, my God, you have aids. Oh, my God. This is not blown out of proportion. This is a epidemic to the largest magnitude where you're supposed to. You have kids going to school to learn, to be educated, to be safe, to be secure, and they end up paying with their life. This is the new reality in America today. So anxious generation, this is par for the course, unfortunately, in America. And it's so predictable. When has this happened before? Every other week, if not longer. So schools and universities really need to do better.
Pat
What was a story that took four years for us to find out who was behind it? We talked about it two weeks ago, and for four years, everybody called pipe bomb. The pipe. Yeah, the pipe bomb.
Vinnie
Yeah. Which, by the way, they still. There's people still trying to say. Because this person sat down on a bench, Pat, and they did what a woman would do. I'm just saying that has a bra on. So this person that they're saying, it's still, like, up in the air. We don't even know who this freaking guy was. But yeah, four. Oh, wait, what do you mean four? Yeah. Almost five years.
Pat
Yeah, Five years to find out.
Tom
So circumstantially, it points to the woman that worked for the intelligence agency.
Vinnie
Look at this. What are you. What are you fixing under there? That's your bra.
Adam
Oh, okay. Regarding the Brown University, what do we know for sure?
Vinnie
We don't know, Adam. They don't know. Think about it. They put all their attention on the white boy from Wisconsin and nothing.
Adam
The. The guy that did the interview, the black guy, saying, I saw him when I saw his face. Did they ask him what he looked like, what he said? Did he say, you would hope?
Vinnie
You would hope so? Exactly. That would have been the first question. Is, hey, is this the guy? Is this the white boy? No.
Tom
Next. I think we know how the media plays the game. You know, George Zimmerman was a white Hispanic. And if there's no race mentioned, then you know the race.
Vinnie
How many Jewish students are at Brown? Can we just take a while? I. I don't know. Is it. Is it a predominantly Jewish school, Rob?
Adam
No. Do we know there's no predominantly Jewish school unless it's in Shiva.
Vinnie
No, but. No, but what I'm saying is Brown.
Tom
Is known as the single most liberal of the Ivy League gate.
Pat
And hands down, Brown.
Tom
Yeah.
Pat
Oh, hands down.
Vinnie
Oh, really?
Pat
Brown is the hand most liberal.
Tom
The most.
Pat
More than any Harvard.
Adam
Oh.
Pat
And it's not even close. Brown, Because Harvard will get conservatives. Brown is like. You go to Brown to say, I.
Vinnie
Want to fight the power. Oh, really?
Pat
Brown is like the place to go. Yeah, but Brown also.
Vinnie
It's white. White. 32 to 36.
Tom
We might get sued by a shipping company. But the marketing is what. How can Brown indoctrinate you?
Vinnie
Yeah, okay.
Pat
Yeah.
Adam
I mean, you guys, as parents, right? Tom, you have one in college, one in high school. You have four kids, all under 13.
Tom
Well, my youngest daughter and his oldest son are in the contemplation window right now.
Adam
Sending your kids to school.
Pat
Did you hear? Did you hear what he just said? Go ahead, Tom.
Tom
I said his oldest son and my youngest daughter are like 10 months apart, and they're both right now in what's called, you know, the review and contemplation window. This is a question as families, we're asking ourselves.
Vinnie
Right.
Tom
Right now.
Vinnie
Yeah.
Tom
Regardless of the fact that my oldest is in college, every candidate university, that's on our list. Look what's on our minds.
Adam
Yeah, but it's not even just universities. It's happening in elementary schools, it's happening in high schools. I mean, how do you look your kid in the school and say, have a good day at school, son. Have a good day at school, daughter, and they might not make it home. This is.
Vinnie
And when I was in la, how.
Adam
Do you deal with that?
Vinnie
I got you every Jewish school like that I saw. Dude, there was a security guard and a cop outside everywhere. No, no, this is at Los Angeles. Everywhere, bro. But all the other schools public. No, Catholic public. Nope, nope. Not even a guard, bro. Put a guard out there.
Adam
They've learned their lessons.
Pat
Yeah. Well, let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get to is Candace Owens and. And Erica Kirk. Erica Kirk tweets out yesterday that. Rob, if you want to pull that up, she tweets yesterday that the two are having a meeting together. I believe you, Rob, you said today is today the 15th?
Vinnie
Yep.
Pat
Okay, so Candace Owens and I are meeting for a private in person discussion on Monday, December 15th. Candace and I have agreed that public discussions, live streams and tweets are on hold until after this meeting. I look forward to a productive conversation. So can you pull this tweet up? I want to know what the comment section says because I retweeted it and I said the following. I said, if you just go to my account. Yeah, and then we'll read the tweet that hers. I said this is the right move, but long overdue. Respect to both women for agreeing to meet. Hoping this visit leads to a real solution that protects Charlie's decade plus of hard work influencing and shaping America's youth. Can we see how the market is reacting to that comment? Can you click on it? Go a little bit lower. Okay. What? Does Candace deserve any respect? Who is that?
Vinnie
Dave Rubin.
Pat
Who is Dave Rubin? I'm giving him a hard time. Of course we know who Dave Rubin is. All right, next. Rnd Wexler. Respect to both women. Who is a horrible take. You and I Both spoke for 20 minutes at Charlie's Turning Point. Adam, is that your friend? Aaron Wexler, you are smart than opinion man. Now kind of like Candace for torturing Erica's and spreading this. Okay, so got it. So that's why where she's at with it Bad take. Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it. Jord Bernard Shaw was a massive socialist. But go a little bit lower when you realize the media tour didn't go as planned and you set up the sit down. Okay, so the position there is on the other side. Erica currently represents what people want Charlie to be, which led to his death. Candace represents who who Charlie was when he was alive. There is room for both, but I get the sense that would have Erica continuing to look more inauthentic. Candace needs to protect Charlie's light. She's the only one keeping it alive. Okay, so we know that's good. So so far it's fair. 5050 comments on both sides. Classy move by Erica. That being said, I'll never watch Candace again. So disrespectful. I don't care what the world thinks about a grieving widow. Until you experience the loss of someone to you in a horrific manner such as this, you'll never understand. Agree. And saying they hadn't already been communicating, Erica has clearly taken very bad advice. She is torching her organizational legacy. How about we stop pretending that they are searching for truth and what happened to Charlie is equal destroying his legacy, because it's not. Okay, so can you go to Erica's tweet by herself? Not mine. Just go to hers by herself. Let's go a little bit lower. Can you go a little bit lower? Can't y' all just call each other? Why does it have to be such a big deal? Hopefully you serve her with papers during the meeting. If y' all are meeting in private, why did y' all make it public information? Keep going a little bit lower. Even Biden got involved. Now she's not busy and her husband is allowing her to do something that day. Interesting. Just be careful that you don't overshare. She will spin it against you later. I'm sorry you have to deal with her and any of the awful rumors. Rumors pieces. The price. Jack Posobic. The meeting should be recorded. The way if Candace tries to mischaracterize anything, there's a record to prove. Okay, so question one. Why would. What do you think are the chances that this is being recorded by both sides?
Vinnie
Very good question.
Pat
What do you think? Let's put it this way. When. When they come to the meeting, do you think it is agreed on who be in the room and that everybody is frisked and going to a room that they feel comfortable knowing nothing is being recorded?
Vinnie
You would hope so. If it's not. If it is getting recorded, that's one thing. If not, yes.
Pat
Okay. Who chose the room?
Vinnie
Erica.
Pat
If Erica chose the room, Candace can say the room is being recorded because somebody put something in there. Right. So let's just kind of put it on there. But Tom, if. If you're going into this, are you automatically assuming that the opposing side is recording the conversation?
Tom
100. And then I'm going to take out a phone and I'll put it there. And I'm saying just to make sure that we keep each other, you know, our memories. For the sake of both memories being good. I'm going to record as well. May I?
Pat
So would you say it publicly so it's a known thing, or would you record and not tell?
Tom
I would say. I would say it publicly. You know, if you're going to have. I mean, let's just look at media. If you have a media interview, they're recording it. Nowadays, they all record it. And I would just say, would you mind if I recorded this so that we both. Both of our memories can be. If we have any confusion, we can go back and they'll probably say yes, and I hit record and I say, thank you for allowing me to record. We're sitting here on Wednesday the 15th at 9 o'. Clock. So I put the date right on it. That's very normal if you're having a media interview and you think maybe there could be an edge to it. So I would, I'm about 100% that they would both be recording and made each other.
Pat
Okay, so. Okay, so now let's go through next part. How do you think this meeting is going to go? Do you think the meeting is going to go? And afterwards all the argument, all the accusations from both sides are gone? Do you think it stops? Do you think it settles? Do you think it continues?
Vinnie
I'm very, very interested and curious. I think I'm interested to see is Candace gonna, like, reveal stuff to Erica that she doesn't think that she knows yet? Like if Candace has some stuff that she hasn't revealed yet and maybe she's like, hey, listen, just to let you know, this person that's in the organization, xyz, all right? Because I think Erica's angle is gonna be like, hey, listen, this is hurting. You're not helping. She's gonna, she's gonna extend the, the olive branch. But as we know, guys, Candace's show has to keep going. It has to continue. The drama can't stop. You know what I'm saying? If you go, here's my question. Do you think there's gonna be a clause where they can't speak about anything that happened in the meeting? Do you think Erica is going to say, listen, Candace, we know you have your show, vice versa, none of us could bring out xyz. You can't bring up this, this and this.
Pat
Where is the premise that that commitment will be kept?
Vinnie
Exactly. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. So you don't think it's going to happen.
Pat
Not only do I not think that premise will be kept, I don't think Candace would agree to that.
Vinnie
I agree. I agree.
Pat
I don't think. I think she's going to go to George or is going to say, hell no, no way we would agree to that.
Tom
On.
Pat
On what can be. Because no. So to me, who is taking a bigger risk in a meeting and who is being the leader and taking a call for the meeting?
Vinnie
Erica's taking a bigger risk.
Pat
Eric's taking a bigger risk and being the leader, taking a meeting.
Vinnie
Erica.
Pat
Erica is.
Vinnie
Yeah. Because, I mean, what does Candace have to lose? Candace is going to, is going to still talk about it on her show.
Pat
Okay, so can you go to the Barry Weiss? Because you just had that clip up. Rob. Which one is this? Rob?
Tom
This is her. During the town hall, Bari Weiss asked Erica Kirk about the conspiracy theories regarding Charlie Kirk's death. And she.
Pat
Okay, go for it.
Vinnie
And yet there are a huge number of conspiracy theories. You might call them brain rot. That are spreading right now online about the actual story behind the reality. One, people say that Tyler Robinson was actually a MAGA Republican. Or two, some people say you were actually a Mossad agent sitting in front of me and you were Charlie's handler and Israel killed Charlie. Right. Other people say that a number of men in the crowd were wearing maroon T shirts and this signifies that his killing was an elite airborne operation, whatever that means. They say that the rings on your fingers, which are my kids. Your kids initials, my wedding band, the Medal of Freedom, My. My engagement ring. But apparently they symbolize some kind of secret plot. There's also a new theory that Egyptian.
Adam
Aircraft have been tracked by the Egyptian planes.
Vinnie
What is going on? Why are there so many conspiracies spreading about what seems to be a pretty open and shut case? This is the first time that we.
Tom
Have seen evil on display where we.
Vinnie
Have social media at our fingertips.
Tom
Something so evil that happened, people are wanting answers immediately. They are wanting to figure out how.
Vinnie
To wrap their mind around this. Egyptian planes do. Let's just slip.
Tom
No, but I'll.
Pat
Yeah.
Vinnie
No Egyptian planes. Do you believe that Tyler Robinson murdered your husband? Yes, I do. Why do you think it is so hard for so many people to believe that reality?
Tom
Because it's too simple, Len. Again, everyone always has to think there's more to the story. Well, sometimes there's not.
Vinnie
I've seen the autopsy report. I've seen our case pulled together. Can I say one thing? Why?
Adam
What are your thoughts?
Vinnie
Out of any. Here's my thing of God, like, I pray for her. We pray for their kids. We. No joke. I pray for them all the time. But. And there's one thing, because she's getting a lot of flack with. By the way, you're doing town halls on. On cbs. Which by the way, Rob, the guy that was asking Charlie the question before Charlie got shot, Right when he got shot, that guy went up there and what a crappy hit piece that he did.
Pat
Did you.
Vinnie
Did you see what this guy did?
Pat
What happened?
Vinnie
You know the guy that was asking Charlie a question about the shooting and the mass shooting and whatever.
Pat
Yeah.
Vinnie
Why would cbs. Because by the way, I heard. Allegedly they all knew all the questions they knew what they were going to ask. This guy is a complete liberal lefty. Look at what he goes up and asks a widow of the guy that you were asking question when her husband was shot.
Adam
Go ahead.
Vinnie
Hi there, Erica. I want to tell you how much I appreciate your calls for peace and unity. And I'm likewise horrified by the people in my so called camp who were cheering about Charlie's murder. I believe that they stoke the flames of violence. Ready? But even worse is when powerful, influential people on either side of the aisle stoke the flames shifting. When they do it, the flames can become an inferno. He's going to Trump. And this leads me to Donald Trump, the most powerful and influential person on earth who has more responsibility than anyone else to put the flames out.
Pat
I think Barry has just last month.
Vinnie
But President Trump called on six Democratic lawmakers to be tried for sedition, which he clarified was punishable by death. He then reposted a simple message, hang them. But like I said, you told them to hang them. Peace to our country. And that turning point has been asking Democrats. So you can stop, right? And then he goes on, Pat, to act like, condemn. The conversation is about this, about, you know, conspiracies and all that stuff. And you're going to bring the guy that was asking her husband a question to try to condemn Trump. They can't help themselves to make it about Trump. But the people that are like, you know, leave Erica alone. And I just want to say something. When you're in front of a camera all the time, you have to know if you don't want the heat, stay out of the kitchen. This is 20, 25. People are going to judge. Look at, look at us. I work for Assad. Tom's whatever, Qatar, you're going to get it. You're going to get it. But at some point, it's like people are analyzing this and it's, it's the talking, the looking up to heaven. It's like, and by the way, if you're going to cry all the time, with all due respect, take your makeup off. Take your makeup off. And it's like, if you don't want it, stay away from the camera, okay? And I get it. You went from the wife, now you're the CEO and the chair. Like, that's a huge jump. And I just have one question, Tom. Real talk, Pat. And you guys are, you guys are bosses. You guys know, what the hell can someone's wife just out of nowhere just become a CEO and know how to run a company of this magnitude, this is. By the way, this isn't a rinky dick mom and pop shop. This is Turning Point.
Adam
They voted for her, buddy.
Vinnie
They voted for her.
Adam
Yeah.
Vinnie
What does she know about being a CEO of a company? Well, I'm just asking. I don't know.
Adam
Wouldn't the board of directors be able to make that decision?
Vinnie
Adam, I have no idea. All I'm saying is the white that's like Michelle Obama. Like, everybody's like, Michelle's the best. She was the wife of the president. She didn't do anything. She didn't accomplish anything. She didn't. She's the president. He was the president.
Adam
I think we're losing sight of this conversation. So Candace Owens is meeting with Erica Kirk. Erica Kirk is meeting with Candace. Why? Why are they meeting? What is Erica owe Candace? What is Candace owe Erica? That's the question I have. The reason they're meeting is cuz Erica wants to go confront Candace and be like you're fricking lying about everything. And you've said publicly, Ms. Owens, that if I wanted you to stop, you would stop. But you didn't stop. You kept going. You kept pushing. So she's being labeled as fake as a paid actor. How many of you people out there have had your significant other murdered in front of you, in front of everybody? And you've had to deal with the public discourse and condemnation and judgment and you had to show up on screen. Look, your best, act your best, defend your husband, defend your company. And you had to keep it together. What have you done with your life? So all the people that are condemning Erica Kirk fu. At the very least, she is the wife of a murdered man and now the. The fatherless wife of two kids. So I have a special rule when it comes to people who have been murdered or killed. Don't make an enemy of their wife or significant other. That's pretty basic. That's just sort of basic stuff. Don't start attacking the widow, huh? In fact. In fact, and I very rarely quote the Torah, but my friend Rabbi Bunny sent me this. He said you should know this. The Torah says this. You shall not afflict any widow or orphan child. If you afflict them in any way and they cry to me, I will surely hear their crime. And my anger shall burn hot and I will kill you with the sword. And your wives shall be widows and your and your children orphans. Is Candace really helping Charlie legacy? Is she really there to console and comfort and support Erica? Or she burning this down? Because that to me, is what this is I've said the whole thing all along. Candace Owens is a bad friend. She's a smart person. She's sharp, she's intuitive. She's the gaslighter in chief of the world right now. And apparently she's an incredible detective. But she's a bad friend. Because if Charlie was looking down, on whose side do you think Charlie would be on? His wife?
Vinnie
His children?
Adam
His organization? His closest friends? Or to his friend Candace Owens? To me, it's absolute BS what she's done. And she will pay the price at some point.
Pat
Tom.
Tom
I don't quite understand why they're getting together. I mean, that's just my. It's like if both side. If Erica and Turning Point want everything to calm down, don't you just kind of let it roll. I mean, how many critics have. I sat in offices, Pat, that criticize you for various things. Like anybody trying to build a company, you weren't special in that moment. Every business leader has got their enemies. Enemies from competitors, enemies from people that come work for you. And it doesn't work out. They're all there. And you either give them, you know what you do, you can make a crisis bigger by treating it like a crisis. Vinny, you can make something too big by treating it too big. And Pat used to say, listen, I've got no quarrel with them. I got a business to run. I got things to do. Let's move on and let it go. Now, if they stole from us, there are procedures and stuff that we can go take care of it. But if it's just going around and round, you can make the merry go round stop by not spinning it. And so I don't know what Turning Point's motivation is here to say. Attention, please. Attention, please. It's like bringing more attention to it. We will not be tweeting for two days. We will be meeting together at an undisclosed location. Now that Cheney's gone, we can use it or something. I'm being a little ridiculous, but I don't understand.
Vinnie
But this stop. But tell me this stops the rob. Wasn't today supposed to be the live stream of Turning Point usa? So, Pat, maybe they were like, somebody needs to talk to her because she was going to reveal something.
Adam
I mean, Vinny, anytime, any place, anywhere. Except not anytime, any place.
Tom
That is today was the anytime, any place, anywhere. This is What Turning Point USA offered was December 15th live stream in Phoenix.
Vinnie
Yeah.
Tom
What's changed on Candace's end between then and today where she wasn't available? It conflicted with her schedule and now she is, dude.
Adam
She's a YouTuber, she's a podcaster. This is her job. She has nothing else going on. She's very good at it. This is her job. Hey, I don't know. I'm able to make it.
Pat
Why?
Adam
Because I have to do my show. I mean, the show that you talk about this non stop, none of this makes sense. And Candace is just sitting there being like all eyes on me. She's like Tupac out here.
Vinnie
What do you think, Patrick?
Pat
With what?
Vinnie
This, this, the meeting that.
Tom
Her.
Vinnie
What, what, what, what's going to come out of.
Pat
Yeah, I mean, I got a lot of people that are saying, you know, why the meeting? This a waste of time. Erica doesn't need to sit down with her. All this stuff. Diplomacy is nasty sometimes. Sometimes you have to sit down with somebody that you know you, you, they hate you or they're making a life a living hell and you have to find a way to talk to one another. You know, Lincoln used to say, I beat an enemy by turning them into a friend. Now here's the problem. Is that possible with Candace? I don't know. Is that going to work with Candace? Is that going to. Is Candace going to be able to get the next story to go on for three months that she can really drive attention to? She says she'll find something to go after. Would she be willing to do that?
Vinnie
I don't know.
Pat
All I'm saying is I'm glad they're having a meeting and let's see where it goes because quite frankly, where what matters to me is the following. Okay, let me, let me kind of go through priorities and what should be the priority of everybody watching this? What matters the most to you? To me, God is who I fear the most. Family who my job. God chose me as their father and God chose me as their husband to lead. Number three country where I choose to raise my family in America is the greatest country in the world. I'm here because the values and principles this country was founded on and I like to keep it that way. And then the state you choose to live in, which we chose to live in Florida, we like the values of this state and we're going to fight to make sure it stays this way. And then the industry you're going through, and to me, in that order, if you go through family, kids, values, principles was there. There was a man named Charlie Kirk who was the example for young men. Tell me anybody outside of charity the last 10 years, that if you have a 12 year old son, you Would say, listen to that guy. Outside of God, outside of Bible, outside of Jesus, outside of yourself as a father setting the example. Tell me who else you could say, if my son followed that guy, I'm okay with. Give me somebody about Charlie last 10 years.
Adam
Go ahead.
Vinnie
I literally can't.
Pat
Rob. Give me somebody about Charlie last 10 years. Actually think about some good names. There are names out there. Who do you say about.
Adam
He was the guy.
Tom
He.
Pat
By the way.
Adam
He was the guy.
Pat
And by the way, when I say the guy. Family.
Vinnie
Faith. Country.
Pat
Country.
Vinnie
Oh, man.
Pat
Give me a name above him.
Adam
You can't.
Pat
You can't. So now he's no longer here. Do you realize how important that is to me with a guy that's got two sons? Well, he would go to Charter because, like, we're supposed to be in amfest this week. Not this week. Whatever this is coming up, right? And we'd go because Charlie would text, say, pat, boom, boom, boom.
Vinnie
Have us backstage.
Pat
Yeah, he'd have us backstage and we do the podcast. We would go and we would do the. You guys had a podcast? Did you guys do unusual with them? Rob, if I'm not mistaken. And the year before, we did PBD podcast and we'd go there and I. You know how many times. Do you know how many times we brought Charlie speak at our events? Do you know how many times every one of our. I think we brought. Probably five times. I think George has brought him. Guy Tom's brought him. We brought him. I don't know how many times we brought Charlie. Charlie would text me, hey, I'm in Florida. Can we do a podcast? Of course.
Tom
Yeah.
Pat
Hey, Pat, while you're at amfest, can you do a podcast with me? Of course. Was. What was the schedule with me being on Charlie's show? Was it every three to six months, Rob? We'd be on the show.
Tom
Yeah. Pretty regular.
Pat
I don't know what it was, but to me, Charlie gave me comfort. You know why he gave me comfort? Because he was gonna be around for 60 more years.
Tom
Yeah.
Pat
A well strong thought out thinker. That's reasonable. That can reason. So to me, my numb. I don't have a relationship with Erica. I don't know Erica. But if somebody is your wife I protect because it's your wife, does that make sense to me? That's my way of doing things. That's his wife. That's his wife Candace. You know, some of the things that she's done the last three months. It is what it is. I've expressed my opinion on what direction she's going. And we've had conversations together, and, you know, that's between her and I. We had a 30 minute conversation together. Wasn't a, you know, friendliest conversation, but we did have the conversation with her. But priority of this thing getting done is to make sure the attention goes to Charlie. The attention goes to Charlie and what he did to the youth because America was lacking what he did to last year's election. Because, by the way, last year's election without Charlie. Kamala's your president.
Tom
Correct.
Pat
FYI, take tpusa and Charlie Kirk out. Kamala is your president today. Let me say this one more time, just by the way. Take Charlie out of 2016, Hillary's your president. Take Charlie out of 2024. Commodore Biden is your president. What does America look like? What does America look like? Top three of the people that helped the election turn, in my opinion, are Elon Musk, Bobby Kennedy, and Charlie Kirk. In whatever order you want to put him in and whatever. Of course, number one above it all is Trump. And it's not even close because he was the one that's willing to take the shots, literal shots fired at him. And the character assassination that took place, Every form of assassination they tried on the president, he's still here. And so to me, priorities very simple. I am not involved in this drama. I don't want to be involved in this drama. This is not my business. This is between the two of them. But when it's so constantly ongoing and it's diminishing the work because watch what the attention's been about. Has the attention been on what Charlie did to help the youth? No. Or has the attention been on the. Who's that? Who's that helping out? No. So that. That's. That's where I'm at with this and. And that's where my opinion lies with this.
Adam
The challenge I have multifaceted with Candace right now is that she's not only she a bad friend, she's also selfish. What she said about Tim Pool. Let's not misconstrue what she said. She said, I don't care about your midterms. Excuse me? What do you mean, your midterms? We're in America. I thought you were conservative. I thought you're Charlie's friend. I thought that you are an advocate of Trump. You want Kamala to win. You want the Dems to win, you want the leftist progressives, LGBTQIA to win.
Vinnie
Yeah.
Adam
What do you mean, your midterms? So to me, this is just sort of another example of selfish, bad friend.
Pat
Candace, let's move on. Your point's been made. Let's move on. I've made my point. We can move on to, to what we have going on here. Okay. Next story I want to get into is California. Okay? And this is Newsom and Nicki Minaj. Two things Newsom. Newsom's California exposed number one hub for illegal CDL licensing. Ok. Safety crisis ignites federal fury. This is in the state of California, so let me read this to you. California has been caught red handed, leading the nation and unlawfully issuing commercial driver licenses to foreign nationals. With federal regulators blasting Governor Newsom's administration, putting politics above public safety and fueling deadly crashes on America's highways, California has become ground zero in America's trucking scandal with Governor Newsom's administration accused of rubber stamping thousands of illegal commercial transportation. Audit to reveal that 1 in 4 of states non domiciled CDLs were issued improperly. 1 in 4, that's 25% with some valid until 2030 despite immigration documents expiring years earlier. Tom, I'll come to you with this. Why is this so important? Why should American people care about the story?
Tom
Because it doesn't. Just because this is a health and safety issue. Those gentlemen that there were two of them, one was driving and one was his, I guess business partner and they made that U turn on a Florida highway and a U turn of an 18 wheeler on a Florida highway and the minivan ran right under it and that family was killed. I believe there were four of them in the minivan. You can get me on the facts, but I'm speaking about that incident. Those were poorly trained people with a commercial driver's license. Why is this so big? Because you can let someone come into the country and you can say here, go to school. You can say here's a free cell phone. You can say here's an EBT card, here's SNAP benefits. But when you start extending it to completely unqualified people that are getting commercial driver's license, you are now elevating the health and safety issue. I already believe that immigration is a health and safety issue when you've got bad people coming in the group. So now you've got criminals with SNAP and EBT that are committing crime over here. But this just shows you this is.
Pat
What you're talking about. The three, the U turn.
Tom
Yes, and it's horrible. Oh, don't look. That, that's, that's the minivan that just went under. You Know, a whole family just perished there on a Florida highway because this guy had an illicit commercial license. He did not get that license in Florida. He had driven apparently several states over.
Pat
Where did he get the license?
Tom
I do not recall where he got the license. I think, Rob, I think it was California. But this is an example of an illegal, poorly trained that gets a commercial license and does it.
Vinnie
And look at that, can't speak English.
Tom
He makes a U turn. He wasn't even gonna make the U turn. You see, there wasn't enough space for the vehicle to even make the turn he's talking about. And he ends up taking the lives of. This is horrible. And so I believe it was the state of California license. So with this shows you is how it is.
Pat
It is, Rob, you're saying it was.
Tom
This is exactly. There it is. This is how it starts giving illegal CDL driver's license. That's how it ends. On a highway somewhere with innocent people killed because of the. The ridiculously unsafe maneuver that they make. And so this is what you're seeing. And by the way, I said three weeks ago, and a bunch of people said, oh, you got to prove that there's a couple people on X. I said, when you find out the fraud in California of what they did with welfare and other benefits, they may not have been sending it in foreign receipts to Al Shabaab the way they were in Minnesota, but the numbers in California are going to dwarf the numbers that are in Minnesota in terms of the billions of dollars that is US taxpayer money that was bailing out California that was used for that. This shows how far California will do to cut corners and give things to illegals rather than protecting its own people.
Pat
I'm going to go to one of you guys, whoever has a stronger opinion, just one person to give thoughts on this before I go to the next.
Adam
I'll give you something on California.
Pat
Go.
Adam
I was having a conversation with a buddy the other day. He's basically California, he says is the best state in the union. I go, yeah, where are you based in? Then he goes, it's beautiful there. I go, you know what California is? California is a beautiful supermodel who's a 10 out of 10 on the outside and just broken and decayed with terrible values and no principles on the inside. She's basically a hot onlyfans model. You look great from afar, but once you open up and see what's going on inside, it's all just decayed and zero morals or values and anything goes there. That's California. Of course it's a gorgeous state on the outside, on the inside. Go down the list here. How many times you talked about the crime, the homelessness, the overregulation, the absolute immigration, the welfare state, the 23 billion that they spent on homelessness. That didn't solve anything. And it's all being masqueraded by this cosplaying leader named Gavin Newsom. And by the way, this supermodel, when you turn out not only she has a bad personality, turns out she had a penis as well. You didn't expect that one coming. But that's trans California for you.
Pat
Who had a penis? Women in California, Women in California. Penises, of course, all the time.
Adam
They play sports with all the boys.
Pat
How do you know all the girls?
Adam
Listen, I had to do my in depth research. Yeah, it's not pretty down there.
Pat
Here's what I will tell you. Here's what I will tell you. When you hear stories like this. This is when one state's bad policies. So there's one thing for you to have your policies destroy the people that live in your state. It's another thing when your state's bad policies destroyed other people in other states that don't follow your policies. And California is guilty for that. So we'll see what's going to happen at the end of the day.
Adam
Nicki Minaj component.
Pat
Nicki Minaj blast Newsom saying he wants to see trans kids. It's the end of the road for you, Vinny. I'll let you take that one with Nicki Minaj.
Vinnie
Well, because I had three things I'm so. By the way, I love out of all the celebrities Nicki Minaj has like, I think something like just woke her up. Like I never, I never had nothing ill will against her. I loved her music back in the day when I used to listen to it. But she's catching on. The, the stuff that's happening in Nigeria, the Christians getting killed. She's finally seeing like what is happening and she can't take it anymore, you know, I mean she was talking about the transit look, she goes, imagine being the guy running and want to see trans kids. Because there's a clip of, of Gavin Newsom. Could you play it? And I want to just point something out, Pat. There's three things that he did this past weekend that just shows the character of the slithering snake. He's lies, he's a hypocrite and he's literally a sociopath. Show, show what he said about the trans kids. Robbie.
Adam
That's an issue no one wants to hear about because 80 of the people listening disagree with my position on this. But I. But it comes from my heart, not just my head. It wasn't a political evolution. It was position being that I don't think it's.
Pat
I want to see trans kids. I have a trans godson.
Adam
There's no governor more pro trans legislation than I have. And no one has been a stronger advocate for the ltvk. Too many.
Vinnie
He wants to see trans kids. He wants to see your children, not his. Your children transition and get hormone therapy and puberty blockers and all that. And he wants them to compete. He wants men to compete in women's sports, which he said he was against. Liar number one. Number two, do you guys remember when he tried to pass legislation? Actually, he did, by banning deep fakes and stuff like that. He posted a video of President Trump, Secretary Hegseth, and Stephen Millen being arrested in a car. He says he's anti that. He's the one doing it and he's promoting it. And then the last one, Rob, I want everybody to know he is the front runner for the Democratic Party. I said it here when Mr. BDIS. What was his name that was here? The podcaster Rob, that bet me money.
Pat
They.
Vinnie
They're obsessed with us. On the PBD podcast.
Adam
Sam.
Vinnie
Sam Cedar is. He wakes up and he goes, oh, PBD infinity.
Adam
He.
Vinnie
That guy is obsessed with us. Hey, Sam, look at me. You're. I should have bet a thousand. He's gonna owe me money. Because Gavin Newsom's not only the front runner. I want everybody to understand this. If this guy becomes the President of the United States, I. I will bet anybody. And, Sam, you could bet money with me, too. The first order of business he's going to do is what do you think he's going to open the border, number one. Because he says right here, he is proud. Look at him. He's trending. He's going to be number one. Who's the other ones? Aoc, Kamala. That's not going to happen. He says, rob, you can play that video. Look at what he says about being proud for giving health care to illegals, mind you guys. Your money, your tax dollars. He's proud and he's gloating and this type of attitude. He's anti ice. He will open the border. And I have a take on what we should do as Americans if they do it. Go ahead, Rob.
Pat
Health care. Yeah, I'm proud of that because I.
Vinnie
Believe in universal health care.
Adam
You know, Others may say it, I did it.
Pat
First state in the country.
Adam
Regardless of preexisting additions, ability to pay and regardless of your immigration status.
Pat
I promised that I promoted it.
Adam
I ran three times on it.
Vinnie
I did it when I was mayor.
Adam
People know who I am.
Vinnie
Did everybody catch that?
Adam
He believes in universal law.
Vinnie
Adam, thank you. You meaning even for un. Illegal. You're here illegally and no wonder why you all the things that you hit, Adam. Homelessness, broke gas. Nothing is going right in. In in California and people guys.
Adam
But the weather's fantastic.
Vinnie
Yeah. And guess what? All these people are going to vote for this guy as if he has a good resume. And I'm telling everybody and I feel ashamed. Rob, I think me and you talked about this. If they do something like that they wide open border, which I'm so during the Biden administration when they did that and Texas tried to pull barbed wire. Tom. And they brought the White House, put bulldozers the government and forklifts and said, come on in. What should we do? I want to ask you this, Vinnie.
Tom
Vinnie, your passion is amazing. And what you're talking about is is people will say, oh, Vinnie doesn't know what Gavin's going to do. Let's go to his resume.
Vinnie
Yeah.
Tom
He was the mayor of when he said I was the mayor. Mayor of San Francisco who stood on the steps, conducted a wedding and dared the US Supreme Court to say it was unconstitutional. And there are people living in San Francisco who would never, ever, ever vote for Republicans that say that the policies and the things he did led to some of the accelerated decay that was in San Francisco. So we don't need to think about what Gavin is going to do. Let's look at his resume as governor. Let's look at his resume as San Francisco. Unfortunately, voters over there on the liberal side simply will not look at that resume. And because they feel that they have been so convinced, remember you and I think Democrats are wrong and need to sit down and listen to reason and come across Democrats think you or I are evil. That's the difference. They think we're evil. We think they're wrong. And so they are brainwashed into nothing. Never, ever, ever, ever considering us, even though they will look at it. And you're starting to see Omar get it this weekend, getting criticism from her own party, getting people that are stepping back from her man with all the stuff that's going on, all these shootings, people are stepping away from Omar, not from the party. But they're like, oh yeah, I'm going to walk down the hall, the bathroom. So I'm not in the group picture with Omar on this one.
Vinnie
Yeah.
Tom
And guess what? That's what's happening here. It's not what he's going to do. We have the resume, ladies and gentlemen. You can go look at the man's resume. And that's what's coming. Vinny's right about what the future holds, but the resume tells you just how right Vinnie is.
Vinnie
And I hope. Tom, Great point. And I just hope that people know if this guy wins and. Or any Democrat, especially him, because he's the front runner, wins and they open the border, it's going to be our responsibility. Seriously. You know what they talk about, Pat? The enemy's foreign and domestic. We have to literally go to the border and say, no, US as Americans.
Adam
And.
Vinnie
And because that's an invasion. And look at Donald Trump has to undo the problem of the previous administration letting in 20 million people. We as Americans. And I'm not going to just be the talk. I swear to you guys. Mark my words. If they do that and he wins, we have to go there, us and fight for our border and say, no, no, no, you're not letting anybody in here with any whatever force needed. Nope. You guys, sorry, we're full. Get out. Unbelievable.
Adam
I just want to give a quick shout out to Nicki Minaj for calling out Gavin Newsom. That's not par for the course, especially if you're in that world. Now, here's my question. Why do you think all of a sudden Nicki Minaj, massive rapper, massive performer, out of nowhere, is starting to criticize Gavin Newsom and criticize his acceptance of trans kids? Why do you think that is?
Tom
Do you think it's really out of nowhere or do you think it's like.
Adam
Why do you think it is grammar.
Vinnie
School in a family?
Pat
No.
Adam
Because she had a son.
Vinnie
Oh, she had.
Adam
Because she had a kid. And something happens to women when they have kids. Look at the stats. Unmarried, childless women vote Democrat in large numbers. And once women become mothers and have kids and have responsibility. I know that's a big word. They tend to think a little bit more logically. So my assumption is Nicki Minaj doesn't want her son to end up being trans and just wants him to be a normal boy. That's my assumption. And she's looking at Gavin Newsom being like, so you want more trans kids? That's what you're supporting A little too far.
Pat
I don't know. It's just. Because she had a son. Because a Lot of, you know, look at Dwayne Wade, look at Magic Johnson. They had a son and both their sons. Have you seen Magic Johnson's son? He's a giant transgender guy.
Vinnie
Is he trend or is he just a. Plays a woman?
Pat
I don't know. I don't know. Plays a woman, right? Oh my God, look at Dwayne Wade's right. You see Megan Fox. Megan Fox has how many. You see these actors and actresses who have two or three trans kids.
Adam
She has more than one.
Vinnie
What about. Yeah, a lot, dude. The majority of these, because they think it's, it's cool.
Tom
It's a trans, fashionable.
Pat
It's cool. Really what it is kind of like.
Adam
Wearing a puppy, you know, in your butt bag.
Pat
But that's what even makes it tougher and more admirable for what Nicki Minaj is doing. Let me get to the next story here. Rob Reiner, we get the story. All of us saw this yesterday. As if the weekend wasn't already crazy and tragic enough, all of a sudden you see the story. Rob reiner's house. A 78 year old man and a 68 year old woman are found dead. What do you mean? But how come you don't say it's them? Yeah, that's the first reporting where everybody's like, what are they talking about? Rob is 78. His wife Michelle, I believe is 68.
Tom
Yes.
Pat
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. So. Oh, it is them. They would. How? Knife. How?
Tom
Who?
Vinnie
Robbery homicide show.
Pat
Robbery homicide and then tmz and it's like, no, their son Nick. Why? Yeah, but the daughter went in and then called the cops and go find my brother. Why? The brother while he was a homeless, you know, he was a drug abuser. And they even did a documentary or whatever show that they did. And wait a minute, what are we talking about with all this stuff? This is Rob Reiner who was extremely critical of Trump, but the day Charlie Kirk died, he was actually very, what do you call it, respectful about the whole of what happened. And even though politically he cannot stand what Charlie's all about. This is Rob Ryan, if you want to play this clip. Widowman Pierce Morgan. Go ahead, Rob, about the murder of.
Vinnie
Charlie Kirk, what was your immediate gut reaction to it?
Pat
Well, horror, absolute horror.
Vinnie
And I unfortunately saw the video of.
Pat
It and it's, it's in this, it's beyond belief what happened to him.
Vinnie
And that should never happen to anybody.
Pat
I don't care what your political beliefs are.
Vinnie
That's not acceptable. That's not a solution.
Pat
To solving problems.
Vinnie
And I felt like what his wife.
Pat
Said at the service, that the memorial they had was exactly right.
Vinnie
And totally, I believe, you know, I'm.
Pat
Jewish, but I believe in the teachings.
Vinnie
Of Jesus and I believe in doing to others and I believe in forgiveness. And what she said to me was beautiful and absolutely, you know, she, she forgave his.
Pat
So, Tom, thoughts on this story?
Tom
Well, when you hear, you know, Rob Reiner say that in the interview with Pierce, you, you say to yourself that below. And he had a lot of anger. You see his tweets, some of his tweets were really intense. But you see that underneath it, there's a human being and there's a human being that's, that's speaking in very measured terms. And you can, you can hear his voice. I don't think he's posturing there.
Pat
I think, by the way, breaking news. I don't mean to interrupt. As of one hour ago, the son is officially arrested. Okay. So the son, which is his bail.
Vinnie
Pat, things like 4 million $.
Pat
Yeah. Rob just sent this to me. Robert Ironer's son charged with murder. Arrested. There it is, 32 years old, held at Parker Central Jail in downtown LA with his bail set at $4 million. A rep for the LA county reported rep did not immediately respond to the questionnaire, but that's what was said.
Vinnie
And allegedly he slit their throats and they had multiple stab wounds on top of that. So it was, it was, it was.
Pat
Bad having their throat slit during a heated argument with a family member. The duo were declared dead at the scene over the weekend. Nick is being, what, 78 and 16? Nick and Romy, they also survived son Jake, as well as Rob's daughter Tracy from a previous marriage. The couple's heartbroken family members issued a touching statement in the wake of the sudden loss. Wow. Posted a picture of the entire family. Oh, my goodness. That is. Tom, please continue.
Tom
This shows the importance of parenting, the importance of getting help for your, your kids when they're out there on the edge. And but for Rob, the. It was very, I thought very appropriate the way he reacted when he talked to Pierce. And I saw a human under there, underneath the angst and everything that he would show on Twitter and his opinions and very, very volatile times. Aren't we all? He was very, very measured and I appreciated that. And then when I read this, I read about a family that's got a troubled kid and a troubled kid that struggled with mental illness. And parts of the report coming out, and I hope these are correct because we're repeating things that have been posted by a variety of usually reputable celebrity magazines that he was homeless, he was struggling emotionally, he had struggled with drugs, and that the family did not reach out to rescue him by giving him money that would just, you know, continue it. They were hoping he would get into treatment and ultimately comes home. And there's some volatile argument here that leads to the most horrific. Me, I haven't read anything this horrific since the Menendez brothers killed their parents. I mean, these. This is just horrifying. And that's how I feel about it. If you've got kids and you've got kids who are on the edge, you got to get clergy, you got to get a faith foundation, you got to get people in the room with you because this is, this is where it can end. And this is this just horrifying.
Pat
The President just tweeted a couple thoughts here. And to his same old way that the President has always been, he didn't hold back and he went straight to it. Wild guess he loves him and then.
Vinnie
He craps all over him.
Pat
Yeah, you should read this. Okay, so a very sad thing happened last night. Hollywood Rob Reiner, tortured and struggling, but once very talented movie director and comedy star has passed away together with his wife Michelle, reportedly due to the anger he caused others through his massive, unyielding and incurable affliction with a mind crippling disease known as a Trump derangement syndrome, sometimes referred to as tds. He was known to have driven people crazy by his raging obsession of Donald J. Trump. With his obvious paranoia reaching new heights as Trump administration surpass all goals and expectations of greatness. And with the golden age of America upon us, perhaps like never before, may Robin Michelle rest in peace.
Vinnie
Not a fan of that, I'm going to say. I'm going to say that right now.
Tom
There'S a better way to.
Vinnie
I do.
Tom
Better way to do that.
Vinnie
I remember speaking to Charlie Kirk at the memorial when he went on stage and said, Charlie's cool with his enemies. I'm not. I'm not. Meaning Rob Reiner has called him a fascist, a Hitler. Okay, the guy is dead. Murdered by his son. Slid him and his wife's throat over an argument during the holidays. I do not like that at all. Let me just say that in regard to Rob Reiner, God rest his soul, that guy gave me and my family so many moments of Pat, Stand by Me, the Spinal Tap, A Few Good Men, When Harry Met Sally, misery. If you really think about this guy's work and I. And he was one of the guys that I said years ago, if I ever met him, because I. I saw him once passing in Hollywood, I was going to say thank you because of his brilliance. He gave us moments where I was in a household where my father drank, and it was always pandemonium and crazy and yelling and arguing and drinking. He gave me moments where we would sit and watch Stand By Me. We would sit there and watch these movies, and it was an escape. And God, Stand By Me, and a few Good men are going down in the top 50. So I want to say, God rest his soul, and I want to thank him, wherever he is in heaven, for giving me those moments where I got to unplug and not deal with the drama of our life. And I. I want to say God rest us all, Adam.
Adam
So I've actually dealt with a situation like this before, which is crazy. I had a very good friend, and there's a brother and a sister, and the brother had a massive, massive, massive drug problem. And they were trying to help the guy, and they were accommodating him. And eventually, in a fit of rage, wanting money and drugs and the mother wouldn't help him, he took a baseball bat and murdered his mom, straight up. This was in Miami.
Pat
You told me this story once. Yeah, yeah.
Adam
And obviously just the most tragic, disgusting thing you can think about. But it goes further. It's like, all right, so he's still in jail. What does he think about every single day? I murdered my mom with a baseball bat. His sister, who I was friends with back in the day, she has kids. What does she say to her kids, you know, not to bring Charlie Kirk or Erica Kirk in there. What does Erica Kirk say to her kids? So, you know, a theme of the show today is this suicidal empathy and being too tolerant. I don't know what happened with Rob Reiner. I'm not questioning his life at this point, but at some point, you know, his. This suicidal empathy turned into homicidal empathy, and the kid that he brought into the world took him and his wife out. So the son murdered his parents on some Menendez type stuff, allegedly over an argument. Allegedly he's been charged, and he's been a drug addict and homeless and the whole deal. And I'm not blaming the parents, but at what point, like, did you allow this kid to get this bat?
Vinnie
Well, a lot of drugs do. Like, I don't know what he was on at the moment. We're not. We have to find out a bunch of stuff with all the. They're probably gonna drug test them and all that stuff, but drugs will ruin whatever. He was on your brain and make you crazy. Maybe he was asking for money or something. And then in the heat of the moment, who knows?
Tom
In and out of rehab since 15th birthday, of course. This is an article that people did with him in 2016 where Nick Reiner talks about being homeless and living on the streets of la, but also being taken to his first rehab facility around his 15th.
Vinnie
That's wild. You know what that means? You've been going at it for a couple of years.
Adam
That's. Unfortunately, this is par for the course in Hollywood. I don't know if you remember this pbd, when we were at Mar a Lago maybe two months ago, you were filming for that movie. You were sitting there.
Pat
Yeah.
Adam
And then we ended up talking to the director afterwards. And I want to say he was friends or business partners with Rob Reiner and he was basically saying what a great guy, but just completely has TDS and there's no coming back from it. That's separate note from what happened to him. Tragedy.
Pat
But.
Adam
When it comes to Hollywood, when it comes to the movies, he's one of the few good men that's made some of the greatest movies of our generation. And rest in peace. It's absolute tragedy what happened to the game.
Pat
Yeah. There's no question about it. You hear stories like this, you're thinking, you're like I said, this weekend was three movies, four movies. Like it was a fictional weekend. Like it didn't feel like it's a real thing happening. It was a fictional weekend where, you know, go to. So, yeah, that's probably out of a movie you watch. Yeah. You know, that's a pretty bad movie. That sucks for some. No, no. These are all true stories of what happened this weekend that we have to talk about here today. And while this is going on. Three Americans killed. An ISIS attack in Syria. Trump says vows to retaliate. He vows very serious retaliation against ISIS after deadly Syrian ambush kills three soldiers. Go ahead, Rob.
Vinnie
Three great patriots in Syria. You know how it happened?
Tom
An ambush.
Pat
Terrible. We also have three wounded.
Tom
They seem to be doing pretty well.
Pat
But we warned the loss.
Tom
These are great.
Pat
Three great people and just a terrible thing.
Tom
Syria, by the way, was fighting along with us. The president, the new president of Syria.
Vinnie
Is, as they told me, and I'm not surprised.
Pat
He's devastated by what happened.
Tom
This was an ISIS attack on us and Syria.
Pat
And again, we mourn the loss. Tom, thoughts?
Tom
This just goes to remind you, number One, what a dangerous world it is. But number two, that they, whether they have seemingly sense of stability in Syria after the fall of Bashar Al Assad last year, or whether there's times of peace, the undercurrent, ISIS and the extremist undercurrent is there to be opportunistic and to kill and terror. There is no peace with them. Deep inside, they want to turn things. And you could have 98.5% of Syria kind of moved and stabilized. And then you've got the American flag on the shoulder of servicemen, along with an interpreter and a couple other security guides. And these guys come out of nowhere and plan it. No, they didn't come out of nowhere. They planned it. They see where we are, they see what we're doing, they see what the assignment is. What, what duty did you pull? They see what these guys are doing and they come out of it. Then this just shows you ISIS has not been defeated. Terrorism in the Middle east has not been defeated. And every time you think it has, you have to go look at this. And it has to be dealt with in strong terms, which is why I think what's happening on the coast of Venezuela, that's very, very strong. What's the strong presence there? Radar aircraft, surveillance aircraft, electronic interdiction aircraft, and everything that's going there. You let me tell you, Roosevelt was right. And I'm talking about the good one that shot bears. Theodore Roosevelt said, you speak softly and carry a big stick. And when Ronald Reagan named one of the newest carriers, he said, they wouldn't let me call it the big stick. So I'm just going to call it the USS Theodore Roosevelt. But that new carrier is my big stick. And then I think this is all interrelated, Pat. It's all interrelated. You have to deal strongly and decisively. The minute you think, oh, it's under control, stabilize, everybody's cool, they got their snap cards. Guess what? They come out, they watched. This was an ambush. This was an observation. They went on a mission here because they watch us. They see us. What was going on. This was not opportunistic.
Adam
Adam, what did we see Trump do at the Army Navy game? We have a clip of that because I think that was shortly after this. Was he not honoring the fallen soldiers who were killed by isis? Was that.
Vinnie
Well, I didn't know he. Well, he was going to the game, period.
Adam
Okay.
Vinnie
Just to. To be the honorary, you know, he.
Tom
Showed up for the coin toss.
Vinnie
Yeah, he did the coin toss, which was. And by the way, the Referee did one of the dopest like shout outs.
Tom
Respect.
Vinnie
He respected the hell out of the President of the United States.
Tom
Played. It is tails. Damn.
Vinnie
Did you get the way?
Pat
You didn't see the speech before? It's actually very good speech.
Vinnie
I love the speech.
Pat
Yeah, but look, too many events, same time, two words. Compatible. Coexist. We don't have to live in the same house. We don't have to live in the same country. You, you can have your set of standards, your own laws in your country. If you think it's okay to have a 52 year old man marry a 9 year old girl. And that's your law in your country. We don't agree with it. But you can have it in your country. Because we don't have jurisdictions over your country. Right. We're not globalists, we're nationalists. We love America. That's what we want, to raise our kids. But if you want to bring that mindset of people that were raised in that kind of an environment to place like this, guess what? Not compatible cannot coexist. It's going to clash. It's not going to work. And if one company, one country has that success attracting the type of people that love being here, well then keep doing it. Quit trying to force people to fit, thinking you can change them. It's like the girl that keeps dating bad boys because she thinks she can change them. It's like the guy that keeps dating girls who have had horrible experiences with their fathers because he thinks he can change them. No, no compatibility. Coexist. Keep those two things in mind. It seems to be a pattern here with what we're talking about. All right. By the way, quick shout out. Rob Ronaldo just announced a new cigar lounge. That is a private cigar lounge. And guess what rule they follow. You know what they're announcing? No phones. Okay. I don't know. I don't know where he got that idea from, but no cell phones similar to ours. Okay? And guess what we're doing on January 2nd, a day after New Year's.
Vinnie
January 2nd.
Pat
January 2nd, we are. Rob, if you can go to the boardroom. Yeah. If you can go to the website and then put the link below. January 2nd, we are having a special event at our cigar lounge at the boardroom. We even have a video of this, of it, the event. But don't worry about it, Rob. It's all good at January 2nd with Stephen A. Smith at the border. January 2nd. You guys didn't know this?
Vinnie
I didn't know that.
Pat
I'm announcing it. As well. First, I'm finding out. January 2, Stephen A. Smith live podcast. And guess what? It's for members only. So, Rob, if you want to put the link below, if anybody wants to be a member, if you want to meet Stephen A. If you want to see what the cigar lounge looks like, the platinum lounge in the back or the main room for gold members, go to the link. Apply to be considered. And by the way, the only people that know about the cigar lounge are the ones that either consume the content here or other people introduce them to us and they go through a background check that we do on the individuals that become members. And nobody can take their phones in. The first thing you do when you walk in is we take your phone, we put it in the locker room, we give you a key card, then you come back at the end, you get your phone back. No pictures, nothing being taken inside. Just network and talk to one another. So go to the boardroom, cigarlounge.com and apply to be considered. Someone will get a hold of you and tell you all about the cigar launch.
Adam
Friday night.
Pat
It's a Friday night.
Adam
Friday Night Lights with Stephen A. Friday.
Pat
In the House Lights with Stephen A. Smith is exactly what it is. Yes, it's exactly what it is. All right, so Bob Iger, Tom, is that where we want to go? Do we want to go to the Disney Store? No, actually, I want to go to this next story that we haven't done yet. And. And somebody. Explosive Epstein photos Release shows Trump with Clinton as Democrats relieve. Release reveal secretive 95,000 picture stash.
Vinnie
Oh, weird.
Pat
And the one picture that's going viral that they hid the pictures of the woman. Rob, look at this.
Vinnie
Oh, my God.
Pat
Have you seen this? They post this picture to say they're underage. And then look what they're circling. Do you see what they're circling?
Vinnie
His hand on somebody's.
Pat
Do you see what they're circling? Yeah, his hand on the waist. But by the way, this picture has been public for decades.
Adam
Yeah.
Pat
This is not a new picture. Okay.
Adam
Trump hanging out with models.
Pat
No way. Public for decades. And there's a bunch of other pictures that came out. Rennie, I don't know how close you were following this, but the. Right. That's. This is these. These are the pictures. Rob, why are you going so fast?
Tom
Because the photos. So just so you know, those faces were redacted. These are the faces of the clearly.
Vinnie
Over the age of 18 women that.
Tom
Donald Trump was filmed with. You can see his hand here. They didn't circle it In. But this is the faces of the.
Vinnie
Women that they blacked out to make.
Tom
It look like they were underage victims.
Vinnie
Can you suit. Can he. Can he get them in trouble for that?
Pat
No one knowing him. He will do. By the way, there's a bunch of pictures the media would spread. Love this information. I'm going to tell you something.
Adam
Come on.
Pat
An insider did send me a picture. Rob. It's the one I just sent you. Rob. I don't know if you got it or not. Do you see it? Don't be a fan of when you see the picture, though. A picture with an underage boy the president is with. No. Yeah.
Vinnie
No. Are you serious?
Pat
I'll let you know. Close your eyes.
Vinnie
How this is going to ruin that for me.
Pat
This is the president.
Tom
Right?
Pat
There he is. Okay. Got to be careful that. It's official. It's official. And. But nobody knows who this is. Nobody knows who this. This is. But this was. This was also. Yeah. Especially during season.
Adam
We've never seen.
Tom
Could have been Trump.
Pat
It is officially the Wet Bandits.
Adam
The Wet Bandits. We got to be careful, Joe.
Pat
Bandits, Sticky Bandits, whatever you want to call them. Bandits. They're bandits of what they're doing. Right? Huh? So all these guys. And it's officially done. So, folks, whatever you're doing today, guys, guess what? Impeachment's probably around the corner. This one picture alone is going to be done. I mean, it's like, scary. So, Vinnie, when you see this stuff being leaked. Woody Allen says he is not sorry about his friendship with Epstein. Not sorry at all.
Adam
Vinny doubling down.
Pat
He's not sorry. Well, he's not sorry. He's saying he is not sorry at all. Look at that picture right there.
Tom
From a man who adopted his future wife.
Adam
I was gonna say Woody Allen probably doesn't have the most credibility when it.
Vinnie
Comes to Woody Allen, of all people.
Adam
Inappropriate, appropriate sexual activity.
Vinnie
Here's the one thing that bothers me. Like you said, they've had all this stuff the Democrats are doing any. This. This is the first thing that bothers me. The popular vote, swing states. Donald Trump won. He had a mandate. And since 2016, you even said it. They've been trying to assassinate and ruin. Besides killing him. Tom. They're trying to bankrupt him. They want to put him in jail. It's like, enough. This is who we all voted for and we want him to do what he's going to do. This is just another last ditch of it, by the way. Go back to that photo, Rob. Zoom into that. Somebody was saying that he actually had a photo there, Pat, of like a trafficked victim. They even covered the face on this because that's how bold he was. And there's Steve Bannon hanging out, I guess, interviewing him. But this is. The Democrats are a joke.
Pat
Well, Comer comes out and threatens the Clintons with contempt for refusing to be deposed and Epstein probe. Okay, yes. This is what Comer comes out and says. So because, you know, they keep saying, well, September, well, September. Well, the Clinton. Nothing's happened so far.
Vinnie
They keep pushing it. They keep pushing it. It's not, it's. And, but here's the thing. Do you guys catch the pattern? The Clintons, all these Bill Gates, all these people, everybody. And then you have Woody Allen, who. Guys, if you want to know the history of Woolie Allen, just go look it up. When there's a leaked phone call of, I don't know, was it the wifi, somebody talking about what he did to this child. It's the most saddest, depressing freaking audio. And for him to say, I'm not ashamed and I'm not going to cover it up, that just goes to prove to you that the most powerful elite, underage, alleged people, they know that there's zero consequences. So for everybody shifting it to Trump, get a life, get a life, get a life, get a life. Okay? Because if they had it, they would have shown it. They would have played that card a long ass time ago. Yeah, okay, so enough of it already. The major one person to me is Bill Clinton, okay? The guy that signed them on to the White House a bunch of times, Mark Middleton, who was the guy that signed them on, hanged himself and shot himself in the shotgun. And the shotgun wasn't enough. Give me a break, okay? Give me a break. I just, I, I hate the arrogance of knowing that they'll never going to get in trouble. That's what bothers me and that's why I haven't posted something this weekend. Tom, you've been proud of me. I go, guys, for everybody out there that is frustrated about the lack of accountability, rest assured you're not going to hide from God's judgment. I want everybody out there to understand that because I'm with you. There's a lot of people out there. They're like, vinny, what the hell? Why are you slowing down? I'm like, guys, at some point you have to understand God, you're not going to hide from that light. I don't care where you try to hide and borrow yourself. God, you're gonna have to Face the man at one point in your life. And that gives me comfort, Tom, because we don't get it here. Satan runs this place, okay? The Prince of Darkness runs this place. He's not. He's not. He's not messing with anybody up there. And God's gonna hold him accountable.
Tom
Yeah, Jesus loves everybody. So I always say to people, they say, well, doesn't Jesus love everybody? And I said, yeah, for instance, Jesus loves you, but he thinks you should be. But we think you should be in prison. I mean, there are two worlds of consequence. There's eternal consequence, and then there's earthly consequence. Earthly consequence. You can end up in jail and all the stuff you've done. And the only peace that I have is I know that God is a just God. But I don't want these people to go to hell based on their earthly deeds. I want them to find Christ. But if your earthly deeds have put you in a position that you deserve, consequence, whether that's prison or you lose a lawsuit, you have to repay victims, then that absolutely should and happen. And we should not wait for you to be in front of God for judgment. But make no mistake, I want people to find Christ. I want them to find.
Pat
Let me get to this next. I got two more.
Adam
I was just about to find Christ, man.
Vinnie
I mean, no, I'll talk to you.
Pat
I don't think you're welcome, but what the hell is going on?
Vinnie
Talk to you after regarding Trump.
Adam
Yeah, I got good news for the Dems. You only have three years left with the guys. Enjoy it while it lasts, because here's the deal. You're never going to hate anybody as much as you hate Trump. So just galvanize and just appreciate the fact that this is the height of tds. There's no one you're going to hate more than Trump. You're not going to hate J.D. vance, you're not going to hate Vivek. Nobody that comes in that you're going to hate more than Trump. So relish in it. Soak it all in. Can we go back to those black box pictures? We're gonna blur out all these clearly over 18 women and pretend that he's some sort of child molester. They hate Trump. The same reason they hate straight white men. They hate white Christian straight men. And he's a billionaire. And he's a billionaire. We hate Trump. And he says not nice things. Listen, as someone who almost got afflicted with TDS many years ago, it's okay to reverse the curse. Join the Team America.
Pat
Let me get to the six I want to do business stories since we're together. Disney CEO Bob Iger's warning over Netflix and Warner Brothers Discovery deals impact on consumers. Oh my God. It's going to impact you, okay, but you could go anywhere but Netflix. Bob Iker just doesn't want to Time Warner to go to Netflix because Netflix can be a direct competitor. To who? To Disney. Right. While I'm going and reading this story, can you do me a favor and pull up the market cap on Netflix? Netflix and Disney, just pull up the market cap on those two while I'm reading the story. Disney Seal Bob Iger warn Netflix deal with Warner Brothers Discovery could harm consumers by reducing competition in the streaming market. Says the guy that bought everything. What the hell are you talking about? You bought up everybody, okay? You Bob, you bought up everybody. You're the greedy CEO that was known as a guy that was making so many deals and nobody got in your way. Now you want to come up and talk about monopoly laws and stuff like this. Iger, speaking on New York Times deal block summit on Wednesday said the agreements which include Netflix license and HBO content and potentially distributing Warner's Max service risk creating a duopoly with Disney. If you look at the deals that Netflix is doing with Warner Brothers Discovery, it seems to me that they're trying to create a duopoly in a marketplace with Disney. The Disney's chief argued that less competition could lead to higher price and fewer choices for viewers. Ultimately consumers going to suffer because there will be less competition yet. And Netflix has stuck struck multiple pacts with Warner Brothers Discovery in recent months, including a deal to stream CNN's New Year's Eve coverage on their. Reports have surfaced that Netflix's talks to bundle or distribute Max in the US similar to Disney. Iger suggests that regulators could should scrutinize such agreements. And by the way, why don't you say it, Bob, that you're siding with Trump? Okay, why don't you say that you're siding with Trump? By the way, while this is taking place, guess what Paramount is saying. Paramount says money is no object. Warner Brothers isn't convinced. So will it happen or won't it happen? Nobody knows, Tom. Is money an object? Is Bob Iger full of it? Is he playing politics? Is he afraid of his legacy? Or is he right?
Tom
Tune in next week for the next exciting edition of Avengers to find out the answer to these and other burning questions. Yeah, so? Well, Paramount says money is no object. But you have to remember Paramount is. It's there's a lot of people that are behind that. And people are saying, well, Oracle's having this. They got this financial circle they're running around with OpenAI and Nvidia. Stop. This isn't about Oracle. This is about all of the funders and investors that are behind it. Money is no object, but not an infinite price. That's the truth about that one. And on the other side, what's really, really interesting, you know, Iger is speaking about that. How about we text Neil Mohan and ask him how Iger and them negotiated recently on espn? Sure seems like that they were exercising monopoly power over sports and they really were giving YouTube TV a hard time. But Neil Mohan held the line. Remember we covered that. So it's like now you go to a deal book and suddenly, suddenly, you know, Bob Iger gets religion and goes to deal book. Oh, I don't think this should be. If there's. Because remember, if you make another one big, we could have a duopoly. Well, that means if it's only you at the moment, then whoops, you're kind of monopolistic over a lot of things here. And you've also got. Oh, wait a minute, now I understand why you were so upset with YouTube TV. You own all of Hulu now. Gosh, now I remember. But I think what we're seeing here is that the regulators and where it's going to go, never mind all the people are trying to connect the dots on President Trump and oh, did this person talk to him? That Ted Shirndo's talked to him, that Larry talked to him? No, no, no, no, no. I think it really comes down to the Federal Trade Commission needs to make it a group of three. Somebody's going to buy Paramount because otherwise Paramount's going to hit the rocks, not Paramount.
Pat
Time warning, you mean?
Tom
Yeah, somebody's going to, somebody's going to buy time Discovery and they're going to hit the. And if not, that ship's going to hit the rocks and a whole bunch of stuff's going to spill. And the real issue is what do we do with cnn? And right now they're talking about, you know, putting CNN into that, you know, Warner Brother, Discovery Global and make a little stock out of it and put it over there, you know. And so I think it's going to happen and I think it's going to be Paramount that wins it. And it's not that money is no object, it's just that they, they have the funding and they could, they can pull it off. And I think you know, there's a lot of reasons Netflix shouldn't be allowed to do this.
Pat
Okay, so can we pull up the market cap? So Disney, Disney is worth today what, 200 billion?
Adam
Almost.
Pat
What is the number? Market cap? No market. Okay, $198 billion. All right, perfect. Disney today is worth $190 billion. Can we see how much Netflix is worth today? Today, market cap, $431 billion. When was Disney started? 1950s, 1940s. When was Netflix started? 30 years ago. By the way, what was Netflix worth, Rob, if you can look it up, 10 years ago, 2015. What was the market cap of Market cap of Netflix and Disney in 2015? What was the market cap of the two in 2015? Watch this. Netflix's market cap was 50 billion. Okay. Is what Netflix was worth. Disney's market cap was 174 billion. Mr. Bob Iger, you ready? Netflix CEO Reed Hastings has taken a smaller company that got started in what year, Rob? Late 90s, early 2000s. He took a small little company, Netflix, that got started in 1997, that was a DVD company from 0 to 400, almost a half a trillion dollars. 10 years ago, they were worth 50. You were worth 175. You were 3x them. You've stayed at the same valuation for 10 years. Under your watch. Netflix has 10x in the last 10 years. Maybe the operator needs to retire you. Maybe it's time for you to simply retire. Bob Iger, Five years too late. If you would have done it in 2000 and never came back, this would have been a great story. But for the guy that is saying we shouldn't allow Netflix to do the deal. And by the way, I'll tell you my opinion. I think it should go to Paramount. I think it should go to the Ellisons. You know why? Cuz I don't trust you. I don't trust you the way you're operating. I don't trust the fact that you pushed out a couple people that should have been board members. And the fact that almost 80% of every money and donation you give goes to the Democratic party. And you had people at the higher ranking that every single damn time I took my kids to movies, I had to see and explain what the hell of a transgender is to my 7 year old kid at the time because you okayed it as a CEO. How many times do we have to walk in the first 15 minutes of a flipping movie under your watch, buddy? You, Bob Iger, you did that to a great brand that we grew up watching. And you're worried about this and now you're this noble socialist that a person shouldn't be doing deals. Maybe let me share with everybody the deals, the great deals you did that we recognize. And me somebody that was a fan of your book A Ride of a Lifetime said, man, you guys got to go read it. One of the better executives we've had. You bought Pixar for $7.4 billion in 06 from Steve Jobs. You bought Marvel acquisition 094 billion steel, Lucasfilm, Star Wars 4 billion in 2012 steel, 21st century 201971 billion. Hulu, Disney Plus. I can't go on with all the stuff that you've done. You want to know what those things are worth today? You paid 4 billion or whatever you did for Marvel. You paid 4 billion for Star Wars. It's estimated to be worth 40 to 80 billion dollars. Marvel today is estimated to be worth 50, 200 billion dollars. Individually, Pixar 15 to 30, 21st century 6200 billion. Hulu 15 to 30 billion dollars. ESPN 70220 billion dollars. According to the numbers that I'm looking at, your give or take, yet your market cap is only $198 billion. Time to retire, Bob. It's that time. You retire. You're going to be respected, you're going to be enamored, you're going to go down as One of the OGs, one of the greatest executives America's ever had. We got to get out of the way today because you're getting in the way of what Disney could possibly happen. And if you don't, Netflix could school you. And not only Netflix, YouTube could school you. Independent creators could create content and cartoons that could school you. That's what's going on with Disney today. And that's my opinion. And by the way, you know how much I believe in long term of Disney without you? A lot. I just call my Goldman Sachs can. I bought some shares in Disney about a month ago because I think long term it's going to do well. I'm going long, 20 years because I know you're eventually going to step down and I hope somebody new comes in. That's what I'm optimistic about. Not short. Will you be in here? And you can't give it up. It is time to walk away, Bob Iger. That's what it's time to do anyways. So yes, I got one last story.
Adam
To do before it seems like you're not a fan of whatsoever. Obviously is the hypocrisy. It seems like it's Rules for thee, not for me. You used to be a fan. I don't want to put words in your mouth of Bob Iger. What has changed in the last five years? Is it just the complete destruction of Disney? Is it the LGBTQ narrative that they're pushing? There must be some hot button issues. I've never seen you go this hard on.
Pat
The only last story I want to do is Ilhan Omar, and I want to wrap it up. But I'll tell you if you want to know. Yeah. Where with this.
Adam
Yeah.
Pat
We're all going to experience this one day. Okay. Where you. You have to let go and let them do certain things. But if. If you forget who the number one customer is, I was. I was hopeful of who the two people that could be part of Disney's board. We talked about this time probably a month ago or something like that, and he went and lobbied everybody to not accept them to be part of the board. I don't trust Disney sport today. I don't trust Bob Iger today. I think Bob Iger needs to step down, and I think Disney. Keep your, you know, whatever, 60, 40 liberal, you know, socialist liberal, whatever progressive. Progressive people you want to keep on the board. But all we asking for is 40% conservative, logical people who have kids. Kids. Your product owners are family people. Family. Pro family. Pro family is what the customers have been. And you're disrespecting the pro family customers that you've had for decades. That. Not you've had that Walt Disney had that you. After being there for 41 years, ABC worked your way up, all the way up to being a CEO. Applaud your accomplishments, but it's time to step away. Like I said, Chuck Schumer, LeBron James, and Bob Iger need to retire. Those three need to move to the next phase of their lives. Last one I'm going to do here, Vinnie and Tom. I'm coming to you guys on this one because you guys have circled these two stories, and if we don't do it today, we're definitely not doing it on Friday. So let me go to it. Where's this guy at, this Ilhan Omar? What page is that, Rob? So I can do these Ilhan Omar stuff. Oh, there it is. Ilhan Omar's flamboyant, dirty dandy second husband surfaces in South Africa as Trump accuses duo of being siblings. Okay. And then she is being under investigation for immigration fraud from Trump border czar. Tom, what's going on here with Ilhan Omar?
Tom
So the facts are coming home to roost. And people like Ted Cruz and others, while she's in a weakened state because of what's going on, she's trying to defend the Somalis. But all the receipts are coming out about the fraud. In Minnesota, people are turning up the heat, appropriately so, saying, hey, did you commit immigration fraud under the laws of that time of marrying your brother? I believe Elmi was his name. Did you do that? And now they're turning up the heat on it because apparently he was rarely here. And then before they even got divorced, I guess he took off for the uk, was a professor at University of Bristol or something. And so everybody's like, wow, that. Hang on here. This doesn't really look like a loving, enduring marriage. You mean, where are the kids? Where's the cohabitation? Where's the evidence? And so we used to live in Southern California, Pat, and we used to know that there was some really dirty organizations. We would see it in the newspaper out there. We didn't know these things personally, of where people would be encouraged to marry, you know, women from the Philippines or women from Vietnam, and all they wanted to do was get them to la, give you a couple thousand dollars for marrying them, and then they turn them into sexual slaves. It was horrible. But we saw it. It was in la, it was in the LA Times. They would bust these gangs all the time for what was going on there. And so now Ted is saying, hang on, Ilhan Omar, let's pause on the fraud investigations for what you're doing to the American taxpayer for a second. And let's ask a question. Did you come here illicitly? And if you came here illicitly and were never really married or cohabitating or you married your brother, if that's what you did, then guess what? We want to bring the justice down on you. And, you know, maybe we don't put you in handcuffs and have the ICE people, but you should be. You should be out of here. And that's what Ted Cruz and other people are saying. And now the heat's getting turned up because people see that she's weak and they can go after her because she's very busy trying to help Walls defend themselves from all of the Somali fraud.
Vinnie
Yeah, weird. Well, I said this last week, if people like Ilhan Omar and Tim Walls had just kept their mouth shut and stopped bringing attention to themselves, they probably would have got, you know, away with all of this, with marrying your brother to bring him into the country to the over. They're saying the number could be $8 billion worth of fraud statewide. It's just all that stuff if you just kept your mouth shut, but you don't want to. So just, you know, on top of this weekend being crazy, her brother was detained by ice, but he had his passport and they let him go. She. She made a comment on that. And also bad. Did you know this? In 2016, she pleaded with a judge to show leniency to nine Somalians in Minnesota who were charged for trying to join isis. That's Ilhan Omar. Did you know that? Say that again in 2000. You want. You know what? Let me. Let's have a reporter. Just go ahead, Rob.
Pat
Good.
Vinnie
Two days ago. But it seems Minnesota representative elect Ilhan Omar may have already made her first move as an elected official. In a letter signed November 8, Omar asks a US district judge for compassion when sentencing nine Minnesota Somali American men convicted of trying to join the terrorist group isis. She says the best deterrent to fanaticism.
Tom
Is a system of compassion.
Vinnie
We must alter our attitude and approach if we truly want to affect change. We should refocus our efforts on inclusion and rehabilitation. Guys, just. Yeah, they wanted to be terrorists, but come on, they're just kids. Absolutely not. So this is going on to her and all these. The Somali pirate, this attitude of anti America, it just keeps piling on. And then, guys, let's not forget, she didn't. Ted Cruz is off. She didn't marry her brother for her to come in here. She married him to come in here in 2009. Okay? And then, by the way, she came here. And when she was 12, she became a citizen. At 17, Thomas Holman said something. He said there was immigration fraud involved. There's no doubt about the marriage to her.
Tom
That's what he's saying. Saying you came here fraudulently, and if that's the case, you leave here legally.
Pat
Yeah, exactly.
Vinnie
Exactly. But. So this prevents Omar from criminal charges because, Pat, the statute of limitations, Guys, has passed. But this doesn't protect her from denaturalization or deportation. Matt Tardeo posted this. He said Omar claims she obtained her citizenship when her father was naturalized in 2000, just months before 18th birthday. But there's a problem. No record has been found of this naturalization paperwork in response to a FOIA request of her father's N400 paperwork filed by AJ Kern in June 2023. The National Records center was unable to locate any filings under his name. So can she be denaturalized, deported? If this is substantial, yes, Tom, that's it. Because if fraud was involved in her Father's alleged naturalization, then her citizenship can be on the chopping block. That's what Thomas Homan is going to go for. Not the brother thing. Which guys. How much more? And I'll give it up to Adam. How much more? Think about this person. You're coming here from Somalia, place that doesn't even have a freaking government. Okay? Adam even called it not a working one. It's not a working government, okay? You're coming from there. And instead of being grateful and trying to contribute and be happy and I don't give a damn if she's in Congress, you bash the country, you steal money from us, you're sticking up for freaking terrorists. You marry your brother, okay? And then you come here illegally. What more. What more do you need to have this person like, yo, you create a criminal farm system. Yeah, we don't want you. We don't want you here.
Pat
Thoughts?
Adam
Well, speaking of importing terrorists and criminals, there's breaking news from the FBI. I don't know if you've seen this. It just breaking news. Fox News has reported it. The FBI has announced that they arrested four alleged members of the radical pro Palestinian group accused of plotting in New Year's Eve bombings all throughout la. According to the FBI, they were allegedly planning coordinated bombing attacks New Year's Eve using improvised explosive devices, targeting five separate locations across la. Do you have that article right now, Rob?
Vinnie
So we'll probably write a letter for them.
Tom
Yeah.
Adam
The common theme, like I said earlier of this episode, is this suicidal empathy and tolerance. When you let terrorist sympathizers parade on your streets, what do you think the outcome is going to be? We just saw what happened in Sydney. They've allegedly arrested four Hamas Palestinian sympathizers in L. A that were going to blow things up on New Year's. What do you think is going to happen when you let these people in your country? Zero tolerance moving forward. That's my.
Vinnie
This is for that they caught Adam. Remember what we just said to begin the show? That's there's 2 million that we don't know. So everybody. I'm happy that they caught them, obviously. You better stay vigilant. You better stay vigilant. And by the way, this is coming from a Middle Eastern, all right. Oh, you got your race.
Tom
Okay.
Vinnie
No.
Tom
Yeah. Stand by for a Liberal judge in LA that will say, let's wait till January 2nd and see if they're really serious.
Vinnie
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly.
Adam
But let's have empathy for them and sympathy.
Vinnie
Zero.
Adam
And teach them.
Pat
Okay. All right. So we're at the end of the stories. I do want to recognize the people that went on X and posted PD podcast hashtag Rob, do you have all the ones I like? Can you one by one by one get the ones that I like? Do you know which ones I'm talking about? Do you see them? Can you just get every single one of them? I want to recognize these guys. We have. Some of them are very funny. Okay, okay. Some of them are very funny. And listen, Adam, Adam's gonna have to do earmuffs or maybe Adam if you need to go use a bathroom, this may not be a bad time for you to do it. Although couple of them are actually very favorable for you. So let me start off with the fixed case one. Yeah, I know, I know. You got it. I know it's a mandatory part to have here. So I'm going to go with the first one. First one is catalior. Okay. Hashtag PBD podcast 700 episode. Vinnie validates my views. Adam puts me on edge, but has good points. PPD gives a unique business side to everything. And Tom calms me down. By the way, you don't know Tom well enough. You do not know Tom well enough. But thank you. Do me a favor, send us a DM Catalior. We want to send you something from us here. Next one. Reverend Frederick R. March. I love Peabody podcast. I've been watching it for a couple years now and I love the fact that you'll have anybody to talk to. And if you disagree or agree, it doesn't make any difference to you, you will talk to all of them, which is exactly what this world needs today. Rob, let me know when you have it so we can kind of go through together. Are you able to download all of them one by one or no?
Tom
Yeah, I'm gonna have to log in.
Pat
Is it gonna take a while, Rob?
Vinnie
No, it'll take two seconds.
Pat
Okay, so let me get to the next one. Repp and Frederick, send us a message as well. We appreciate you and we're gonna send you a hundred dollars cash over as long as you send us your information. We'll get that over to you Next one. Usagi Usagi says PBD Podcast Love America First Culture Business Wednesday entrepreneurship views on the news, the interviews, nuggets for men, fathers, family, godly culture. Would suggest a separate video on the specifically Pat or men Boys need how to's. But my favorite part is the book suggestions and reviews. Fantastic. I love it. And again, DM us, we want to send you a bunch of Stuff. I actually love this review. This review. Send us a dm. We're going to send you some special gifts as well. This next one we have from Jeff May. I love this podcast because it's common sense. Opinions on the news that's happening. Real guys giving their opinion, not being fake or afraid to see what's right. Keep up the great work. Merry Christmas, brothers, and y' all have a happy New Year's. Jeff, thank you. Another one here. Stacy M. Stacey M. I don't know if you see that one with the US flag 700. Congratulations to my favorite podcast group. Patrick with his no nonsense, sexy leadership voice. Tom with his intellectual take on show topics. Vinnie with a strong, passionate, fiery statement of truth. And Adam, we love you anyway, Stacy, California fan, but you got the sexy voice. We love you too, Rob. Which one are you on? Rob, I'm trying to catch up with you here. So I'm going to go to this next one here. Congrats. 700. Great news. Love you guys. Appreciate you. And it says even though sauce is on the pod, he tolerates it. Okay, let's see which. Which one we got. There's. There's a couple of them. I really like Rob. I wish we had it together here to go through this thing. Maybe. Maybe pull up the one with the guy who is in the sauna. Can you go to that one? Rob? Did you see that one? Okay, this is Dave. Dave, first of all, are you really watching a podcast on the sauna?
Vinnie
His phone's ruined.
Pat
I mean, look at his face, how bad he's sweating there. He's so, Dave, we're gonna send you a Future looks Bright towel. Yeti to get some water. We're gonna send you that. And maybe an flb. A towel is coming your way as well, Dave. Maybe a Future looks Bright T shirt.
Tom
Because future looks dry.
Pat
Gotta put a shirt on. He's got. He's definitely got to put a shirt on. And last but not least, I saw this one here with a family, mom and daughter together. Christina, I love the fact that even if different opinions, you all have the platform and allow all opinions to be. Thanks for the Christmas giving. Merry Christmas to y' all from me and my family of four in Silsby, Texas. Christina, merry Christmas to you. And since it's a 700th show, we want to send you a 700 gift card cash over your way. Send us a DM. We'll send that over to you as well. I had one that I really wanted to read. I think it was the last one. Rob. Okay. Yeah. Michelle Pedley. Pull up Michelle Pedley. Adam's got to get love on one of them. Go all the way down with this one. Michelle Pedley. And the other one that I think is going to make Tom blush a little bit. I think Tom's gonna like that one. We found. We found the format is what we found. Watch this is Michelle. Watch every episode of PBD podcast. Wishing I was living in the US because UK is awful. Vinnie has passion. Tom always has true facts. Adam goes on a bit. And last, you're a true example of what a man should be. A loving father, great husband and a self made man. Thank you. DM us. We'll send you gifts. But there was one about Adam, my favorite. Okay. The one previous to that second to the last one. Tammy says congrats. What I love pbd. Belly laughs out of my favorites often different point of view. Vinnie, how he heated he gets. And Tom reminds me of a wise man and makes me think of my dad. Oh, Tom.
Adam
Oh, Tammy.
Pat
But there is, there is one with Tom. Rob. There's one. Oh, there it is. Laura Lou. Oh, go find Laura Lou. No woman should ever need to watch porn.
Vinnie
Oh my.
Pat
When we have a podcast like yours, Tom is the sexiest. They're all handsome. Congratulations, guys.
Adam
This is why they think we have bots out here. Guys, I don't know.
Tom
Thank you for the great work you've done on my kids kitchen. 10 years ago.
Adam
You guys only knew what was going on in Tom's mind.
Pat
She finally showed up. Anyways, quick shout out.
Adam
I got, I mean I just got to do it for our guy here because he's having the time of his life. Humberto, your guy, the new Chilean presidente.
Pat
Even he lost.
Vinnie
Congratulations, man.
Pat
All right, guys. Hey, if you haven't yet again go to vtmerch.com there's a lot of 17 countries trees so far have ordered flbs and the Christmas stuff. Go to vtmerch. Com. Place your order. There's a lot of good items there. Go support it. If you believe future looks bright, represent it. We're excited about what's happening here. Even though this was a weird weekend, we still believe the future looks bright. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye bye. Bye bye.
Episode Title: Rob Reiner Murdered, Bondi Beach & Brown Shootings + Candace & Erika Kirk Meeting
Date: December 15, 2025
Host/Panel: Patrick Bet-David (Pat), Vinnie, Tom, Adam
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This milestone 700th episode dives into an intense, wide-ranging discussion on several major breaking news events from the weekend: the shocking Bondi Beach terrorist attack in Australia, the Brown University shooting, the murder of Rob Reiner and his wife, the growing crisis of radicalization and “suicidal empathy” in Western societies, as well as the repercussions from Charlie Kirk's death and the meeting between Erika Kirk and Candace Owens. The team also covers U.S. border policies, issues in higher education and law enforcement, media mergers, trending pop culture, and the pushback against progressive politics in America.
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This episode offers a raw, unfiltered deep-dive into some of the most fraught issues of our day—from terrorism and immigrant integration to the failures of policymakers and media manipulation. The panel is unapologetically opinionated, driven by real-time news and their own moral and cultural convictions, at times controversial and always candid. If you’re looking for mainstream platitudes, look elsewhere; if you want intense debate, first-person stories, and harsh takes on the news, this is a must-listen.
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