Trump To Address Nation + Dave Smith Debate | PBD #767

Summary

PBD Podcast #767 – SUMMARY

Episode: Trump To Address Nation + Dave Smith Debate
Date: April 1, 2026
Length: Approx. 2 hours+
Host: Patrick Bet-David (“Pat”)
Home Team: Adam, Tom, Vinny
Main Themes:

• Trump’s scheduled address to the nation regarding Iran
• A frank in-team debrief and debate following Adam’s appearance vs. Dave Smith
• Current events: U.S.–Iran war, political alliances, free speech in sports, Tiger Woods’ troubles, ‘Professor Jang’ viral discourse, and celebrity redemption (Miley Cyrus)

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Episode Overview

This episode opens with Patrick Bet-David gathering the panel for an honest, direct conversation about recent show events, Adam’s debate performance, and the broader lessons around personal and professional growth. The team then pivots into the major news of the day: Trump’s anticipated national address on the ongoing Iran conflict, with in-depth speculation about U.S. military strategy, international allies, and political consequences. Running through the episode are themes of accountability—whether in debates, leadership, national policy, or personal lives. The panel closes with a reflection on redemption and reinvention, spotlighting public figures and cultural moments.

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Key Sections & Insights

1. In-House Debate Debrief: Adam vs. Dave Smith (09:16–24:40)

• Adam’s Debate Recap:
  • Adam recounts going against Dave Smith on Piers Morgan with minimal prep:

    “Listen, there’s no doubt that Dave Smith is smart or wise or well read...But just because you’re smart doesn’t mean you’re wise.” (09:51, Adam)

  • He admits he didn’t pay attention to audience reaction:

    “I don’t care what the market thinks of me. I know what I believe. I know who I am. I know what I stand for.” (10:31, Adam)

• Pat’s Candid Feedback:
  • Pat directly pushes Adam to reflect and improve for the “next phase,” sharing the need for coachability, not just authenticity.
  • Pat makes clear that debate is about “a clash of ideas,” not just asserting a stance:

    “The purpose of a debate is for me to look at something when, like the moment where Hillary Clinton and Trump are going at it...It gets people thinking. So if I’m going into a debate and I didn’t make anybody think, what was the purpose of the debate?” (19:11, Pat)

  • Emphasizes the skill of receiving and acting on feedback—not just dismissing public opinion as “noise.”
• Vinny’s Observations:
  • Vinny calls for Adam to “fight again” and come back stronger, comparing debate to real-world perseverance:

    “You have the ammunition, you had this big ass arsenal, and you just used a pistol...You have to debate him again. You have to do it again.” (24:20, Vinny)

Memorable Moment:
Pat’s leadership lesson on the “Modesto Manifesto” – using historical lessons to avoid pitfalls and guide team culture (11:34).

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2. Trump’s National Address—What It Means for the Iran War (24:45–49:41)

• Speculating Trump’s Message:
  • Trump’s address is seen as a “mini-State of the Union” primarily focused on military progress in Iran and American strength.
  • Adam: “America’s back. We have strength, not weakness, in the Joe Biden administration... the world respects the United States again.” (26:59)
  • Tom & Vinny underscore the importance of clarity about the war’s duration and objectives, noting public impatience and mounting pressure for results.
• Military Update:
  • Recaps destruction of Iran’s missile and drone capacity, changes in regime leadership, and U.S. military buildup in the region.
• Political Stakes:
  • All agree stringing along the war risks damaging midterm elections; if it’s not “wrapped up,” it could severely impact the GOP’s prospects.

Memorable Moment:
Pat muses on what would “shock” the market—a possible announcement that Gulf States will finance the war effort:

“Imagine he comes out and says...Qatar and the Gulf states have decided to fund the war against Iran. You won’t be paying for it...That would be a massive announcement.” (49:41, Pat)

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3. U.S. Alliances and Burden-Sharing: America and Israel (61:05–80:06)

• Boots on the Ground Debate:
  • Extended exchange on whether the U.S. should demand more direct military participation from Israel (and other allies) in the Iran campaign.
  • Vinny is adamant:

    “If we send a thousand of our American troops, I want 1000 Israeli boots on the ground as well.” (61:05, Vinny)

  • Pat frames the argument as a negotiation:

    “If I’m going to put my guys on the line, I need you to put two times as many.” (77:10, Pat)

  • Adam counters with resource limitations, threats at Israel’s borders, and Mossad activity as indirect involvement.
• Underlying Tension:
  • The discussion reflects real public anxieties over American sacrifice and alliance “fairness,” especially for U.S. military families.

Memorable Exchanges:
Pat & Adam role-play negotiation between Trump and Netanyahu (77:17–78:48), perfectly distilling the give/take tension between allies.

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4. The ‘Professor Jang’ Phenomenon & Media Authenticity (81:09–87:15)

• Dissecting Viral Commentator ‘Professor Jang’:
  • Panel reacts to viral social media figure “Professor Jang” and criticisms of his credentials and possible foreign influence.
  • Tom, a real adjunct professor, and others highlight the problem of “fake authority”—especially in the digital media landscape.
  • Vinny & Adam discuss the modern hunger for truth versus “traffic[king] in pretty anti-Semitic tropes” (83:36, Pat quoting Mehdi Hasan).
  • Meta-point about public figures, ideologues, and how media savvy can amplify dangerous, unclear, or misleading positions.

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5. Free Speech, Faith & Sports: Jaden Ivey and the NBA (87:15–100:13)

• Jaden Ivey’s Controversial Christian Statement:
  • The NBA player was released by the Bulls after a video expressing his faith and discomfort with the NBA’s promotion of LGBTQ+ Pride.
  • Vinny passionately supports Ivey’s courage:

    “This isn’t about inclusion. It’s about submission... If you stand for Christ and his teachings and the scripture public, this is what’s going happen to you.” (91:48, Vinny)

  • Adam is pragmatic:

    “Pick and choose your spots, my friend...You’re about 12 months away from signing a $100 million deal. Now you got zero.” (91:48, Adam)

  • Tom frames the First Amendment reality:

    “Free speech has consequences...The league says ‘we own the teams. You’re an employee of the team.’” (99:04, Tom)

• Bigger Conversation:
  • The case becomes a proxy for wider debates over speech boundaries and faith in public life.

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6. The Rise, Fall, and Reinvention: Tiger Woods & Miley Cyrus (100:13–113:35)

• Tiger Woods’ Accident & Addiction:
  • Panel reflects on Tiger’s legacy after his latest DUI, his pain (physical and personal), and the perils of opioid addiction for iconic athletes.
  • Adam:

    “With every swing, with every time he gets in a car... He’s not helping his legacy. You’ve already solidified your legacy. All you’re doing is tarnishing at this point.” (105:38)

  • Pat and Vinny highlight the “curse of competitiveness” and the difficulty of walking away when driven to win.
• Redemption and Regret: Miley Cyrus’ Confession:
  • Miley Cyrus’ recent reflection on past choices and family shame prompts discussion on public apology, growth, and the power of personal transformation:

    “Reconciliation is one of the most beautiful things on this planet.” (112:14, Tom)

  • Pat connects Miley’s story to the broader message of influencing others to learn from hard-won experience:

    “I think there’s a lot of women that need to be inspired by people like this... And I was wrong. I think that’s powerful.” (112:48)

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Notable Quotes

• “A little bit of criticism... maybe there’s some value there for me to receive. How can I receive this and recreate myself?” (15:19, Pat)
• “Peace is done. All right. You want a piece of you here, a piece of you there? That’s what’s going to happen when you negotiate with these terrorists. Stability through strength.” (27:24, Adam)
• “The only way you are ever...going to have peace [in the Middle East] is if everybody there comes to Christ.” (28:51, Vinny)
• “It’s not about inclusion. It’s about submission.” (91:48, Vinny)
• “If I’m putting our kids’ lives on the line, where are you with it?” (70:23, Pat)
• “Reconciliation is one of the most beautiful things on this planet.” (112:14, Tom)

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Important Timestamps

• Opening: Light banter, last episode recap, SLS event, intro to today’s focus: 00:02–09:16
• Debrief: Adam’s Dave Smith debate & Pat’s direct feedback: 09:16–24:40
• Preview: Trump’s national address, Iran conflict analysis: 24:45–41:28
• Alliances, military burden-sharing, and public perception: 41:28–80:06
• Professor Jang, credibility, and media manipulation: 81:09–87:15
• NBA & faith: Jaden Ivey’s firing & free speech debate: 87:15–100:13
• Sports, addiction & legacy: Tiger Woods reflection: 100:13–110:26
• Redemption & transformation: Miley Cyrus, celebrity apology: 110:26–113:35

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Flow & Takeaways

This episode is a showcase of real-time, unscripted, and sometimes tense conversation among a team who respect, challenge, and push each other. Whether grappling with big-picture geopolitics, faith in the public square, or personal failures and comebacks, the hosts never shy from tough questions or holding themselves and each other accountable. The theme of reinvention—of self, argument, leadership, or country—threads through the show, inviting listeners to reflect on their own adaptability and authenticity.

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Recommended for listeners who:

• Want sharp, in-depth, and sometimes uncomfortable analysis on current events
• Enjoy authentic team banter mixed with principled debates and leadership lessons
• Appreciate the intersection of geopolitics, business, faith, and personal growth

Next Up:
Tomorrow’s guest is economist Richard Werner for a deeper dive on the economy, then more reactions and breaking news Friday.

Transcript

[Pat]

Did you ever think you were made. For me, Adam?

[Tom]

What's your point?

[Pat]

The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever saw. It's right here. You are a one of one.

[Vinny]

My son's right.

[Pat]

I don't think I said this. All right, so we are live folks. Obviously, everybody knows when we think about what everybody wants to talk about. I mean, I've been tweeted out a million times. Pat, can you please talk about this? Can you please talk about that? We're finally going to be addressing it. Tom's not wearing a tie today. I know it's an issue for a lot of you guys. You're not happy about it. We will talk about that. There are a lot of other things that's on your mind, such as Chicago Bulls. Jade Nivey. Not Nancy Ainsley. This is Jaden Ivy. We want to say the names properly, Vinnie, because it's like, it's important to go through it. And it's important because last Friday, you know, the great Sean Hannity was here. You know, here's a guy that's been doing this for decades. Came out, sat down, did the podcast. And by the way, it's not easy to do that. Nobody likes to do that. You know why? Because if I go and host for somebody else, the audience is going, oh, we missed this, we missed that. So, you know, I want to thank Sean here in front of everybody that you came and did that, especially a guy that's a decorated guy in the industry that's been doing great work his entire career. And so thank you, Sean, for the audience that tuned in on Friday. I got a lot of commentary. I'm glad you guys had a good time together. I think the biggest complaint was we didn't talk about Iran enough. So the goal is to go two and a half hours into Iran today. So stay tuned. We're definitely going to be doing that, and Adam's committed to bringing and doing a podcast with a significant other. Hopefully, one of these days, we can see that happening. Gas prices are at 4% bucks. I saw the gas prices. We got to talk about that. Humberto came in today for no reason. I get a call from HR saying, why am I getting a complaint to HR from Humberto for gas prices hitting $4? What responsibilities does our HR department have over? I'm like, RJ, I don't know what to tell you. Humberto, you do one thing, he gets upset. Him and Justin got into a big fight this last week in front of everybody at sls, which was hands down the greatest event ever, which, if you were there, you know what I'm talking about. It was hands down the most epic event we put together at the Trump Doral. The people at Trump Doral, phenomenal experience we had there. We got to talk about Tiger Woods. I mean, Tiger woods, man. There's a reason, like, there's a part of me that thinks the founders of. I'm convinced, Vinnie. The founders of Uber and Lyft, I'm convinced they are such diehard fans that they created the company purely with the thought of mind to prevent Tiger from driving.

[Vinny]

Huh?

[Pat]

Because they're like, why drive knowing you get in trouble when you drive? Just let us drive you. We'll take it and we'll give you millions of drivers around the country that'll take you anywhere you want to go. And he's not using us. So we got to talk about Tiger. Rumor has it he's not going to be competing in this week's tournament that's coming up. People are, some are saying it would have been entertaining if it would have been, because, you know, who knows what it would be unpredictable. Right? There's an element of it. But who doesn't love Tiger, right? I'm one of those guys that loves Tiger. There's a lot of stories that came out on conversations, on fights, on ultimatums and all this stuff. Apparently, King Charles is coming to Congress and we have some people that are curious to know what's going to be happening. Trump's ballroom judge says no time out. We're not doing this. And I think he's going to Supreme. Is he going to Supreme? Is he going to sit down today to see the exchange of conversation?

[Tom]

Yes, he is. He will be in the audience.

[Pat]

President will be sitting down in the audience.

[Vinny]

Wait, Pat, so you mean a king is coming after we just had a no kings?

[Pat]

Well, they, the no kings protest. I mean, listen, it's important stuff there, Vinnie, because we can't have a kink here. And then Trump's addressing the Nation tonight at 9 o'. Clock. Nobody know what it's about. They're wondering if, you know, was he not happy with some of the trade deadlines? Was he not happy about some of the things no one knows what's going to be talking about. Scott Jennings dropped it a little bit. Some, some people from the White House apparently leaked some information to the news that they're speculating on what he's going to be talking about. Will address that today. Maloney is apparently not that happy. Dow went up 1100 yesterday. It's up half a point today. Oil is right below $100. Based on what Tom just told me a minute ago, Oracle is about to lay off. You know, they say 12 to 18% their workforce. These are rumors that are speculating. They got 162,000 employees. That's 20 to 30,000 employees. Rob, can we see what the average salary at Oracle is? We know at Meta was 379. And then some old clips from the president came out. I got a clip of Miley Cyrus I want to show to you guys on what she said, which was very interesting. Prefer Professor Jang. Do I say Professor Jang or Teacher Jang? Well, I don't know how to say prop. Do I say high school?

[Adam]

Comrade. Comrade.

[Vinny]

Comrade.

[Pat]

I don't know what to say. But anyways, I mean, he listen good content creator, good storyteller. He's got good angles. He had a sit down with Mehdi Hassan, and out of all the people in the world that I didn't think would have challenged him the way that he did, kudos to Mehdi. Mehdi came up and just guns blazed and asked the question. So some people are claiming you may be tied to the Chinese. Is that true? Is that not? It's a fair question to ask. He addressed, by the way, if you live in Canada, guys are messaging me saying, pat, on Instagram, we can't see what valuetainment does. You know, stories Canada doesn't allow. That is true. We're banned in Canada. But guess what else may be banned in Canada? If you get up on stage and you say something from the Bible that contradicts some people and offends the lgbtq, that may be considered hate speech. And it's about to become law. And the great country of Canada, that's coming soon. Mail in order. There's a story that's coming in with that and then a few other stories. Hopefully we'll make it through all these stories that we have here. Having said that, couple things I do want to tell you guys. We got a lot of messages, Pat. You know, Monday, who do I go to if we don't have the podcast we were expecting? We changed the business podcast yesterday. I sat down with Lee Strobel for two hours. Great conversation. The author of Case for Christ. Tomorrow we're gonna have Richard Werner to talk about the economy. And I'm very excited about talking about him, talking about it with him, because he's got very good angles he goes through. But to those of you guys, that message, thousands of you, that message saying, we miss you, we Want to hear the conversations. We want to hear the exchange. And the podcast keeps climbing. Every time we're doing a podcast, it climbs and it happens because of you guys. And I'm grateful for you and for the 51% of you guys that tune in on a weekly basis. We would like to take that down to 25%. 51 of you, 51% of you that watches this, who doesn't subscribe. It would mean the world to us if you do. So we're real close to getting past 3 million. We'd like to take this thing to 5 million subs and take the item into 10 million subs items right now at 7.1 million subscribers. And that only happens with your help. So if you don't mind subscribing and subscribing to the channel, that will be wonderful. We're grateful for that. And then next, many of you said, hey, I couldn't make it to the SLS. We have people from 40 plus countries, attendees, sales Leadership Summit. The greatest event we ever had. And if you're watching this yourself saying, how do I get the recording? How do I get what the event was all about? Rob, is this the clip? If you want to play the clip, go for it. This was the SLS at the end of the meeting. This is the SLS event that we just had. Go for it, Rob. We just finished the 2026 Sales Leadership Summit at Trump Doral. People are literally just leaving right now. The greatest event we ever have. Content I've never spoken of before. And it's 250 page manual. If you want to be one, the first to get the recording, it's officially available. Click on a link below. Place your order the type of content to help your sales team go to the next level. All right, there you go. There's a QR code. Click on a link below as well to purchase the recording. I've never had an event we had. Never have we had an event like this where we had this many companies over $100 million attend this event. We've never had. We had a guy sitting in the corner of my table at $300 million. Flew him from Finland at six guys sitting on this side with $100 million guy sitting right across from me. $375 million EBITDA is what he had. Another guy in the corner toilet paper business doing 220 million a year from Miami. Incredible quality. If you want to find out more about the event, click on the link below. Get the recording. It's officially available for you to get. Having said that, let's get right into it. Opening topic that I want to address with you guys is this. Adam, you were on the Dave Smith. You and Dave Smith did a debate together on what do you call it on Piers Morgan. I think that's the first time you were ever on. Obviously, the market has responded and they've been saying their thoughts on how it went. What you did, what was said. Davis retweeted and said something about this is the end of Adam funeral. He made some comments that went viral. You've responded. You made some videos at him as well. But I just want to kind of get. Because a lot of times from the audience, you have to know how this works. The audience sits there and watches and says, I know for a fact Pat prepped him and the team prepped him and this and this and that, and they don't know what happens. I want you to share with us because the audience is curious. They're asking me, what is your impression on how you did on the debate with Dave Smith?

[Adam]

Well, despite what you think, I haven't listened or watched any of the Internet zero. Like I have. Like, I don't go onto Twitter. I don't check the comments. It's just not something that I do. Some people are messaging me on my neck. What do you think? I don't know. People are saying stuff. And I'm listening to a song called Ain't nothing gonna break up my stride, Ain't nothing gonna slow me down. And that's how I feel about this. So they told me last minute, hey, you're gonna go on Piers Morgan? Sure. I think Tom was maybe gonna do it. Tom wasn't able to do it. They called me up, I said, sure, I'll debate Dave Smith. Listen, there's no doubt that Dave Smith is smart or wise or well read.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

The same thing could be said about when you debated a room full of 20 communists on Jubilee. They were all very smart. I was very impressed by all these people. But just because you're smart doesn't mean you're wise. Now, do I think Dave Smith is smart and capable? Sure. Do I think he's funny? No. Do I think he's right? Definitely not.

[Pat]

I'm asking you, how do you think you did?

[Adam]

I think I did fine. I. My intention wasn't to be play nice, so I went on Piers Morgan. I don't really have plans on going on Piers Morgan every single day. That's not my thing. It's a food fight every single day. Respect to Piers Morgan. I wanted to make some waves. That was my methodology. I could be right, I could be wrong. I don't care.

[Pat]

Okay, so the problem is, you said you don't care.

[Adam]

No. Meaning like, I don't care what the market thinks of me.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

I know what I believe. I know who I am. I know what I stand for. I stand for what America stands for. Dave Smith. What pissed me off, he continues to say that America is the greatest terrorist regime in the world.

[Pat]

So what?

[Adam]

And that Israel is the greatest terrorist regime in the Middle East.

[Pat]

So what? That's his argument.

[Adam]

Sure, that's his argument. My point was that only 1% of Americans vote for libertarians. He's a hardcore radical libertarian. So when you wrote the book choose your enemies wisely, you said, who's your enemy? I said, I don't know who my enemy is. I don't really have a lot of enemies. You know me, Pat. It's a big difference in the Internet and comments. In real life, I walk around in real life, I have zero issues.

[Pat]

You don't have issues there. That's not the conversation I'm having.

[Adam]

The conversation that I was just basically establishing is that Dave Smith, as potent as he might be on a podcast or even on Joe Rogan's for that matter, people don't support this guy. I support our troops. I support America. I support our allies.

[Pat]

I think Joe's had him on 20, 30 times.

[Adam]

Irrelevant.

[Pat]

No, it's not irrelevant. So ask whether you agree with the guy or not. You know Joe likes Dave, Right? So. So the question you got to ask yourself is, from my perspective, there is issues. There is approach. There is what's next for you? When I look at everybody in the marketplace, including myself, everybody in a marketplace, including myself, I leave and I say, okay, how am I recreating myself for this next phase? What areas do I have where it's a leak for me? What habits do I have that I need to pay attention to? When we started building an insurance company yesterday, I had Lee Strobalon. We had a great conversation together. One of the guys that would study a lot was Billy Graham. And Billy Graham and his friends in 1948, they came out with something called a Modesto manifesto. And at that time, there was a lot of pastors that were getting caught up with young girls, and they came up with this thing saying, hey, what are our threats? And it came out with the threats that they had. It was four things. One of the ones was pastors hooking up with members. Number two was churches Taking advantage of the members with money. Number three was the ego of a pastor. When you get on stage and you feel like, you know, you are God, like some pastors actually become godlike because of how much the church fears them. And they liked anyways, they go through this. I said, okay, how do we want to build this company? It's very hard. So you got to think about ways to improve. I'm asking you. The argument is one end because I don't know if you focused on making a. I've seen you make better arguments with Basim Yosef than you did with Dave Smith. I didn't see you making arguments on Dave Smith. And the reason why I'm doing this with you openly and I'm talking to you openly with you is there's an element of also representing where you're coming from, where the expectation is, hey, where do you go and be professionals? That's not how I handle debates. I don't handle debates that way. That's not my M.O. so if you're close to me and you're handling it that way, that is not my style. I don't do stuff like that. And Dave and I don't even agree on some of these issues. But if I'm having a conversation, it's about, what is this next phase? And by the way, the reason why I'm having this direct feedback with you publicly is for the following reason. This is how I roll at them. I will give you private feedback and have your back 100%. I've always been like that. This is why my guys like working with me, and they know how tough it is at times because I'm always challenging them. But if my private feedback that I'm giving doesn't land and it feels like you have immunity to go run around and say whatever you want to keep saying, I don't give a shit what people say. I do. There's an approach to take about this game. I don't care that we have differences and debates. We push each other here and we have arguments and, you know, comment. I side with Vinnie today. You know what? Today, actually, I side with Adam. You know, there was a couple moments we had where you had a couple clips like they sided with you. I think Adam's the point today. And I'm like, okay, Adam had a point. And then, hey, Tom. No, I'm siding with Tom today. Pat, you were off today. No problem. But it's recreating for the next phase of what is that next phase for you? And that's a Very important thing for you to be thinking about. I've had that conversation with him recreating himself. I've had the conversation with him recreating himself. I have the conversation openly with me on what I need to recreate. But for me, when I saw that, I'm like, you know, you brought up another guy from the past that beat Dave. Great. You know, you brought up. No, there needs to be the Adam that I've seen debate that is prepared. He actually would have made some real good points there. And you, by the way, you've been a moderator for Zero Hedge with Dave Smith and what do you call it? Laura Loomer, if I'm not mistaken. Is that what you did, didn't you moderate? Yeah, and I was a pretty good job you did as a moderator. So I don't know I'm saying this publicly. To say this next phase requires all of us to recreate ourselves, and that includes you in a big way. And I've said this privately eight weeks ago, nine weeks ago at that dinner place we went to, and I was very direct with you. But you're cornering me to have to say this publicly to you right now. And you have to make a decision on what you want to do with this next phase. You got to recreate yourself. It's a very important thing. I'm being very respectful to you. And you had no idea that I'm going to go here this morning. You had no clue I'm going. And by the way, I intentionally changed today's business podcast to do this because obviously Monday I couldn't be here. We had certain things that was going on this weekend. I had. What do you call it?

[Vinny]

Sls.

[Pat]

Sls. Sean Haddon. He did it last Friday. So I changed everything. And Rob and I, we had to talk about it yesterday and calendar to do it this way. But for me, sometimes, you know when people say, I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, I don't care. And sometimes this is like the Trump effect. Well, Trump doesn't care. Well, Trump doesn't give a shit. Well, Trump doesn't do this. Well, contrary to popular belief, Trump looks at every poll, Trump listens to every comment. Trump listens to everybody, every criticism. So what you think that Trump does, I'm not telling you. Go read the comments the next day and go through all chat. I don't recommend that at all, but I do believe a little bit of criticism to see. Well, maybe there's a little bit of credibility there. There's a little bit of value there for me to receive. How can I receive this and recreate myself? Because if you're not too careful, Adam. And I'll open it up to you guys if you want to say anything. I'll give you the final thoughts, and then I want to get on the next story. But I wanted to open up with this, get right into it. Is the following. There is no April Fool's jokes today. I don't have one. Okay? So if you guys are expecting an April Fool's joke, I don't have one. This is not April Fool's joke. I know what day today is. This is not. You know, I've had certain friends of mine that are very good. I used to be very good at the April Fool's stuff. I don't have one today. Maybe I'll have one for you next year when I'm in a different mood. But this is the part I want you to be thinking about, is the market is going to criticize you. There's a very big difference between the bots. I read a comment yesterday, made the most disrespectful comment to me, and the first thing I did, I went to the account. It got started in February of 2026. It has two followers follow 6,000 accounts. That's a bot of somebody that created to say it. Forget about the bots. There are some people that are giving real feedback that we have to pay close attention to because, you know, we can disagree, you know, even with the Dave Smith part, Dave Smith's issues. We can sit down and have a debate over the number. And I can still do it respectfully, you know, even when I went to Jubilee, they disrespected me. I didn't disrespect the kids when I spoke to them. Our position has to be a different position. And even when Trump calls out, he still is very paying attention to the likability score that he has. Love him or hate him, people like him. I'll pause. Vinny, any thoughts you have? Some.

[Adam]

I'll just break this down real quick. We didn't have this discussion prior. Just kind of preemptively brought this up, and I'm totally okay with it. If I wanted to have a ideological debate with Dave, I would probably rephrase it. That the world is a dangerous place and he wants to pretend that he's an ostrich and not engage with anybody. So, you know, to use an analogy, if this guy was a dating coach, he would say, just sit at home all day and wait for women to knock on your door. And that's when you can respond to women. The world doesn't work that way. If you're a sales coach or if you're a sales manager, that's like saying, just stay. Stay by the phones.

[Pat]

What do you think's the outcome of a debate?

[Adam]

But the outcome of a debate.

[Pat]

Forget Dave Smith. This isn't a Dave Smith conversation. That could have been Joe John Doe. I'm not talking.

[Adam]

The point is that I'm trying.

[Pat]

What is the purpose of a debate?

[Adam]

We're not aligned.

[Pat]

What is the purpose of a debate?

[Adam]

To find the truth.

[Pat]

It's a clash of ideas. So somebody can watch and say, wow, good point. Never thought about it that way. Let me go back and look at it. Right? That is the purpose of a debate. The purpose of a debate is for me to look at something when, like the moment where Hillary Clinton and Trump are going at it and Hillary says, you know, you know him and all his, he didn't pay any taxes and he didn't do this and he didn't do that. And then the moderator asked Trump a question and says, is it true that you pay this? He says, yes, I will use every single tax code that you have. Just like all her donors do. And by the way, you've been there for 36 years. How come you've never changed it? So me, as the voter sits there and says, that's a very good point. You've been there for 30. That's the debate. It gets people thinking. So if I'm going into a debate and I didn't make anybody think, what was the purpose of the debate?

[Adam]

Sure. Well, now. Fair point. The point that I was trying to make is that ideologically, we're not aligned here. I'm supporting Trump. Was I supporting Trump 5, 10 years ago?

[Pat]

No, you were not.

[Adam]

So I'm all behind Trump. Everybody wants to criticize Trump right now. The thing that I'm basically establishing is the fact that this guy has a luxury of living in America and wants to criticize the heck out of Trump when I'm defending Trump and our troops. The point that I was saying is I'm defending Trump. Dave's the type of person that'll root for the bad guy in the bad movie. So that's what Dave is. Aside from that. Other than that, I understand what you're talking about. The reason that I brought up the Coleman Hughes and I encourage people to go watch it, this was the sort of like the swan song event. Imagine you hype up this event. Here's what's going. The SLS is coming this weekend. Here's what's going on, and this debate takes place. And it was a 12.0drubbing. So that's my point. Should I have conveyed it a little bit better? Sure. Should I have not brought up someone else's debate in my debate? Maybe I'll learn that for the next time. That's fine.

[Pat]

I just.

[Adam]

But the reality is this question. He got whooped and I called him out on it. That's all it was.

[Pat]

Yeah, but it was. It was your fight and his.

[Adam]

Sure. For the next time, I'll debate him just heads on. I brought up something from the past, but my.

[Pat]

My feedback isn't actually that. My feedback is. It's okay to pay attention to the pulse of the market every once in a while. Good feedback's being given. Not 80% of people, not 90% of people, but there are reasonable people that will give you good feedback.

[Adam]

Sure.

[Pat]

And none of us. There's not a single human being in the world that actually likes to be given feedback that we get excited about it. So it's not like anybody likes it, but it's in those moments where your character is being tested to say, you know what, let me receive some of this and see if there's some good feedback and then process it.

[Adam]

I'm going to turn this over to Vinny. I'll just say one thing. You know what Vinny and I do when you're not around?

[Pat]

What's that?

[Adam]

We say, hey, what feedback do you have for me? What, what feedback for me? We actually talk, we actually convey. How many times have we done stuff like that?

[Pat]

The difference is. You know what the difference is?

[Adam]

What's that?

[Pat]

Here's the difference. So this, this, this event at sls, I asked the question because I used to always look at my guys and judge them on how hard they work, how great they're on scripts, how many books they read, and all this stuff. Eventually I'm like, let me look at it in a different way. It was, how much information does this guy retain from what I teach? So you teach something. This guy retains 10%, that guy retains 20%, this guy retains 30%. Then the next thing is, okay, so he's winning on retaining information. He's smarter than you, let's just say hypothetically, Right? Okay. Now the next part is what, what's after retention, implementation, execution. So he only implements of the 30%. He retained 5%, he retained 20%, but he executes 20%, you retain 10%, but you, you know, implement 50%. Then it comes to coachability, then it becomes the speed of implementation. Then all of that stuff. Feedback is feedback. It's receiving and implementing that matters. That score of coachability, high, low is the difference between you and Vinnie, and that's the coachability marker that I want you to be internalizing for yourself. So, Vinnie, again, I don't want to be on this too long. I want to move on. You want to say something?

[Vinny]

This will take me two minutes from, from a debate point of view, because I'll give both sides. He's never been in this, in this environment, meaning when they send a van, when I go and do these debates with a panel of six, everybody's yelling, talking over each other. People don't realize you're in a van, you're sitting in the sun in Florida. I'm red. I know. You were hot. Even what's his name was in there. Jaden was in there. People are like, he's on cocaine. I read the comments because I want to know what, what the temperature is. The, the, the, the negatives were obviously, you referred to another debate, which nobody wants to do. You were a little off, I felt, because I know you as a brother, I know that you were nervous. This is what bothered me. Adam, we are in here and I know what's going to happen today on this podcast. We're going to Israel is going to be brought up and we're going to go into it. You are, you are amazing at that debate. And I was disappointed because, you know, you're in the moment and you refer to whatever you have the arsenal. You had the ammunition. You had this big ass arsenal, and you just used a pistol. You were just like kind of going after and doing personal. And I was disappointed because I was like, yo, you have it. You have it. You didn't use it. And this is my attitude when I was young and I'd get my ass whooped, my mom would be like, you're going to go outside, you're going to fight that guy right now. You're not going to sit here and let it fester. I know that you're going to do it. You have to debate him again. You have to do it again.

[Pat]

Okay. All right, Tom, you don't look like you have anything to say. It's all good. We can.

[Tom]

I don't have anything, Tom.

[Adam]

It's all your fault.

[Tom]

No, no, no, no, let's. No. Pat was very articulate about it. He's got standards we get feedback, we try to meet those standards and we want to represent well wherever we are.

[Pat]

Okay. All right. All good. Thank you, Tom. Let's go to the next next topic. I want to get into. So Rob, do we want to get into what the president's going to talk about tonight?

[Adam]

Sure.

[Pat]

Nine o'.

[Vinny]

Clock.

[Pat]

So there is, there was an announcement made that tonight The President at 9 o' clock will be addressing, be given an address to the nation to provide important update on Iran. A lot of people are speculating what this could be about. Why would there be an emergency? Scott Jennings yesterday, I think on CNN or something kind of alluded to two to three weeks, the war is going to be over. There's a bunch of different. Is this it, Rob, that Scott brought up? Go ahead and play this clip.

[Vinny]

I think tomorrow night, based on what I'm hearing, we're going to get a couple of things from the president, probably a recitation of how he sees the last four or five weeks, the military successes we've had, the fact that we've obliterated their navy, we've obliterated most of their missile and drone capacity, and the fact that we did take out the previous regime and now we're talking to new people that I think the president and the administration believe are somewhat more willing to have a reasonable conversation. I also believe we're probably going to hear how he sees the next two to three weeks when we will wrap up what he sees as our military objectives and hopefully, you know, bring our large scale operations to a conclusion in a way that meets all the objectives. The nuclear stuff, the missiles, the navy.

[Pat]

Tom, what do you think it's going to be about tonight?

[Tom]

I think Scott Jenning is right. There's also been supposedly leaks to major news. It was a journal. I don't have confirmation on those, but the journal apparently had the same thing was that the president's going to say we have a plan. It's two to three weeks. And yesterday the market bounced 1,000 points on the voice of the President just saying, hey, you know what, I think we got to wrap this thing up. He said some things that kind of shock people where he's like, well, you know, it may wrap up and the Straits of Hormuz may not be exactly open yet. We may have to negotiate that afterwards, but we're gonna be leaving very soon. The market loved that and it jumped on it. So it sounds like we're gonna hear that and hopefully, Pat, we hear some definitiveness to it. And Scott Jennings said it best. We Hope that the objectives have been met. So we didn't just go in, have a mess, leave the regime in place. And now those regime are gonna bust heads of the poor people who just want a free Iran in the future, and the rest of us that want a free, free Iran without nukes.

[Pat]

Adam.

[Adam]

So Trump is sort of doing an impromptu State of the Union today. We were at the State of the Union. How long ago? When was that? That was in about a month ago, something like that. So this is sort of an updated thesis about what's going on in the Union. I think he's going to say three things. I don't think this is just going to be about Iran. I think the three things are this, America's back. We have strength, not weakness, in the Joe Biden administration. How many times do you think he's going to bring up Biden? I guarantee you it'll be a handful of times. Talking about how weak and inept he was and basically not even running the show over there that the world respects the United States again. And we've had that conversation about respect over being liked. I'm sure Trump would like to be liked, but he'd rather be respected. He'd rather be both. But I think the world respects us again, even if they don't like us. That's number one. Number two, he's going to talk about the border, because that's basically what he ran on. Not Epstein, not any of this other sort of nonsense that's peripheral. He ran on the border and he shut it down. ICE could have gone better, but he's not gonna probably throw ICE under the bus and he's gonna talk about that. The Dems represent chaos and he represents law and order. Obviously, there was just a no kings protest this week. Ridiculous. Trump's not a king. So last but not least, I think he's gonna bring up what's going on, obviously, in the Islamic Republic of Iran. I'm done referring to them as Iran. They're the Islamic Republic of Iran that took over Greater Persia and Iran. And he's going to talk about stability through strength. I talked about this in the last podcast. I'm also done sort of using the Reagan Doctrine. Peace through strength. We're never going to have peace. Peace is done. All right. You want a piece of you here, a piece of you there? That's what's going to happen when you negotiate with these terrorists. Stability through strength. We just need to have some regional calmness so the world isn't going chaotic, and then that's what I think he's going to do. And last but not least, I think he's going to sprinkle a little bit out the midterms. Because. Because I don't think it's trending in the right direction. But we saw what happened last year when there was supposed to be a red wave and then never happened. So we'll see what happens this time.

[Vinny]

Many, I think, I mean, I think Iran's going to be on the top of it. I saw a poll yesterday that the majority of Americans are not happy with it, which, whatever, it's a war. It's not going to be clean. Everybody's like, oh, yeah, I love it. And I saw another thing that the Democrats, apparently there's a 43% chance that the Democrats are going to sweep the presidency, the House and the Senate, which is the first time, I think, in the history that's going to happen. I think sometimes when, you know, people are talking everything, the president, the leader of the free world needs to come out and just say what he has to say, plain and simple. Come out and say, and Adam, you said something about peace. And I've been, I've been thinking about this a lot. Peace in that region, the only way you are ever. I hate when I hear peace in the Middle East. It's not going to happen unless everybody there comes to Christ. I'm being dead serious. Everybody in that Jew, Muslim, everybody becomes comes to Christ. You're never going to have peace because Christ is about what loving him and loving your neighbor, all those neighbors. It'll never happen. Nobody wants to talk about that. All of them have to come to Jesus Christ. And I don't want to sound like a preacher up there on a stage. That's the only way. So it's a, it's a fallacy to think that they're ever going to get. They're all we're going to love and shake hands. Sure, it's fake, but I think, but I think he does have to pass. He has to come out today and go, hey, guys, listen, everything that's going on, this is what I want. This is what's going to happen, and this is what's going to do. And again, whatever words come out of his mouth, we have to see action. And I get it. I'm one of these people, Pat, that falls for the. I'm very impatient. Ask anybody that knows me. When I say I'm going to do something, I do. And when somebody says I'm going to do it, I want it like this. And I'm just impatient. I need to teach myself. Calm down. He's only been in. He's been in for a year. This war is a couple weeks in. I don't want it to continue any further or put boots on the ground, which I know we're going to talk about that. But I trust him. I've said this many times. I trust a guy that since the 80s, guys, I know. We'll get there. 80s has sat.

[Pat]

Play the clip.

[Vinny]

Wrap. Yeah, go for it. This guy and I, especially during 2016, and he loves this country. He's warned us about China, and in this clip, he warned about Iran. There's no Bibi. Bibi's alive, but there's no BB Netanyahu in this moment. For everybody that just. It's just so brainwashed. Listen to this clip.

[Pat]

Because I'm running for the presidency. I'm here because I'm personally tired of seeing this great country of ours being ripped off. But as far as Trump is concerned,

[Vinny]

our allies are only part of the problem.

[Adam]

The real culprit is Iran.

[Vinny]

Why couldn't we go in and take

[Pat]

over some of their oil, which is along the sea? How would you do that? Would you send in the Marines? Would you take a chance in the war, let them have Iran, you take their oil. That's what I. How, How? I mean, do we want a war?

[Vinny]

What do we do?

[Pat]

Take their oil.

[Vinny]

You go in, you're going to have a war. You're going to have a war by being weak.

[Pat]

Okay, how do we go in? What do we. Excuse me.

[Vinny]

You're going to have a war, and

[Adam]

it's going to start in the Middle East. What if the Soviet Union said, you

[Vinny]

do this to Iran, we're going to come in.

[Pat]

I don't believe they'd do it.

[Vinny]

The next time Iran attacks this country,

[Pat]

go in and grab one of their big oil installations and I mean, grab it and keep it and get back your loss.

[Vinny]

Because this country has lost plenty because of Iraq.

[Adam]

Let me tell you something.

[Vinny]

What year was that?

[Adam]

1987. He's talking about running for president.

[Pat]

Just so you know. 39 years.

[Vinny]

I was seven years old.

[Adam]

So, I mean, are you kidding me? If the people that are basically saying that Trump is compromised, this is the one clip that they didn't want coming out because he's been sort of piecemealing. Listen, Iran's never going to have a nuclear weapon. We're being held hostage by this regime. This is almost 40 years ago. He's basically saying, I'd go in and do exactly what he's doing now. This hurts everybody's credibility. That's basically trying to compromise Donald Trump. I actually wish that he ran for president then because he wouldn't be dealing with this 40 years later. Because right now he's basically cleaning up the mess that every single president.

[Pat]

I think no matter when you run, I'm convinced this argument's not going to be weighed. I think there's always going to be a community that's going to come and say, you guys are owned by Israel. You're a puppet, you're this, you're that. You know, Bibi tells you what to do. He's your. I think that's going to happen. I think no matter when you run, they're going to say, because in Iran, when you run, they would call the Shah that he is a. His puppet masters are the presidents of. He's a puppet of people in us you know, and then there's always going to be. The Elizabeth Warrens are going to say these rich people are too rich and we got to tax them. There's always going to be the people that want to go to war. There's always. Certain players are always going to be there, no matter when you run for office. I think one thing that the president's probably thinking about tonight, Rob, if you got that clip of him being asked about Iran has threatened to hit some companies, do this. And his answer may be one of his best answers I've heard because apparently, folks, Iran has access to certain weapons. Like, I just want you guys to know, when he explained that some of you guys are going to be concerned with this and you need to be. This is very scary because President Trump just leaked what weapons Iran has.

[Vinny]

I'm not a fan.

[Pat]

That is. Go ahead. Go ahead, Rob.

[Tom]

The Iranian government threatened a bunch of

[Adam]

US Companies today in the region, including Google, Apple.

[Vinny]

With what?

[Adam]

What did they threaten them with?

[Pat]

PB guns or.

[Vinny]

Well, that's. They don't have much left to threaten.

[Tom]

My question for you is, I don't know. I mean, what are they?

[Pat]

You made a statement.

[Vinny]

What did they threaten him with? I don't know.

[Pat]

Tell me, how did they threaten him?

[Adam]

All I know is that they threatened them, sir.

[Pat]

What does that mean?

[Adam]

Fair enough.

[Vinny]

He said something nasty.

[Adam]

Is the government in touch with these companies? Are you helping to backstop them?

[Pat]

You don't even know what the threat was.

[Vinny]

What was the threat?

[Adam]

I haven't heard it.

[Vinny]

What was the threat? Did they say they're going to blow them up?

[Adam]

They're going to hit Them, they're not,

[Tom]

you know what they're not going to do?

[Adam]

They're not going to hit him with a nuclear weapon. Bingo. Is this something you're concerned about, Sir? No. Iran's IRGC issues a warning that they

[Pat]

will target 18 US technology companies if

[Adam]

the US continues targeted assassinations of Iranian

[Pat]

leaders beginning on April 1st. Those companies, video, Apple, most of those people are dead already.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Yeah. So anyways, I think a part of tonight, if you think about it, there's a few things that's going on that he has to find a way to accelerate getting this war done with. I think he has to do that. I don't think he has the people like he thinks he has to extend this. I think if he, if he continues, you know, at the beginning when they started, everybody's like three to four weeks. I'm like, nah, it's probably three to six months. Where are we at now, by the way? What day are we at right now, Rob? What's the exact date? 39, 40. What's the date? I don't know the exact date.

[Vinny]

Did we go on the first.

[Pat]

Exactly one month, is it exactly one month?

[Adam]

Feels like 12 years.

[Pat]

Yeah. So what day did it start? Day 32. Okay. Is that what it says, Rob? Is that today's. Yeah, day 32. So day 32, I said three to six months. They have to get it wrapped up. If he gets it wrapped up, here's what could end up happening. There's going to be the far woke right or the left that are going to say, you know, but it cost you this and it did this and who cares? Compared to Afghanistan and Iraq, it was still a bad one. We should have never gone and done. Okay, the, the, the 1% that you're not going to win, set those aside because that's noise. That's going to be there, no problem. Then there's going to be the guys that no matter what he does, he can't do anything wrong in. I do think if this thing goes past three to six months, I don't think it's going to be a favorable thing for them at all. I think if it goes anywhere near midterms, it'll be destruction. It'll be the kind of loss they haven't seen in a long time. And that's going to be on his resume if that happens. So I do think he understands that. See, this is the part about Trump that most people don't give him enough credit for. He, he does this, he's always doing this. Checking the pulse he is checking. It's something everybody has to be doing. He does this. He's checking the pulse, and he asks, what is the market saying? What are people saying? Who's not happy? Who said what? What's going on? What's trending? What's. He wants to hear from everybody on what's going on. One of the things he realizes, do you really want to go into the World cup having a war going on? I don't think so. You said it's not going to be a long one. I think one of the main concerns he has is he's got to get this thing wrapped up fairly quickly rather than longer. But he also learned something because what did Maloney come out and say, Rob, what's the thing that Meloni came out and said? Do you have that clip? Maloney apparently came out and, you know, everybody remembers when Meloni was running was like, oh, my God, she's so great. Italy, she's conservative. She's going to be able to do this to Italy. We need somebody like this. And then apparently Meloni came out a little bit criticizing, you know, Iran, Italy refuses US Aircraft use of Sicily's base for Middle east operations. Sources say this is yesterday. Okay, this is yesterday. So he also learned with NATO, NATO wanted U. S to fund the hell out of Ukraine and help him out. But. And that's not even our war. But now when U. S Comes out with a decision on something they want to do, NATO says no. So I. I think some of these relationships, they're going to be tricky moving forward. I think he learned a lot about all his enemies. I think Rubio learned a lot about a lot of his enemies. I think Rubio is going to be seeing what's going to happen in 2028 when he's running to campaign. This led to a number coming up, Rob, of where, you know, J.D. vance is at versus Rubio. I don't know if you guys saw the recent reports of how big of a climb. Do we have that article here as well, Rob, where, you know, numbers came up with JD Going lower, Rubio going higher. I just think there's a lot of stuff that's going on that Trump needs to know. He knows. He knows that. If he continues. Is this it, Rob? The plus minus?

[Adam]

Yes, sir.

[Pat]

Yeah. Watch this, folks. I want you to watch the plus minus. Forget that. There's nothing that matters more than the plus minus. Go ahead, Rob.

[Adam]

But that is down.

[Pat]

JB down from 2025.

[Vinny]

Moving up. Look at Rubio to 30 plus 33. 33.

[Pat]

Percent DeSantis down 5. I think he'll be there. He's down from 5.

[Vinny]

Junior 2 Cruz Hex Junior Ted Cruz.

[Pat]

There's a couple names that are not here that will be there next year as well. 2027, 2028 when they run. I think there's a lot of things going on. I think the president, you can pause it right there. I think the president want this thing to be over and move on. And there's going to be a lot of criticism to say did we finish it? Did it end? Did you finish the job? Was it a regime change? He said the other day, he says the regime change already happened three times since we started a war because he's saying they killed the first guy, they kill the next layer. So he said we've done three regime changes already in a month.

[Vinny]

Means being factual, he is being factual

[Pat]

about saying something like that. But the regime collapse hasn't happened yet. Tom, I'm going to come to you. This whole thing with Pentagon and you know, sending troops and Iran is just lining up ready for that with the update of USS Tripoli. We saw the video with all the ships, how close they're getting. What is the latest with that, Tom?

[Tom]

Well, the, the U.S. has dispatched another aircraft carrier from Newport. They've dispatched the Nimitz to go to the Mediterranean in support that left Virginia, I believe it is. And so all the show of force and all the resources are there. The Tripoli is there. The Boxer is right behind it now, which is another assault carrier. And so everything is being set up. All the chess pieces are there for whatever final onslaught they want to make. Carg island, the, I'm going to pronounce it term, but Koestro, Korar island, which is the long island, which is right at the hook of the Strait of Hormuz. So either one of those. So all the military assets, Pat, are there to take advantage of it. And then as you properly pointed out, you know, you have NATO flip flopping. They're reacting to energy prices, they're reacting to, you know, their own polling at home. So what do they do? Oh well, we're not completely with them. Spain says we'll close air. Oh, we'll close the airspace, says France. Oh, you can't use, you know, Sicily says Italy. So it's like, come on, you know, you guys gotta, either you're gonna be allies, you're not gonna be allies. But right now all of the assets are there. I'm anxious to hear what he says tonight. But everything is there. If they wanna take Carg island or they wanna get hot. Everything is there as well as what people we have moved over there a ton of A10 Warthogs. And the A10 Warthog is a massive Gatling cannon with an airplane attached. And so we have everything we need over there. And then this weekend, Pat, we're hearing that B52S, which is a 70 year old platform, are flying bombing missions unmolested. So the surface to air missiles, Vinny, all those things that you would come up against are not happening. So it's like we need to get on to this surrender or whatever it is, Pat. And I think we got all the assets in position, Vinny.

[Vinny]

Well, when they say, you know, boots on the ground, which you've been hearing

[Pat]

since this started, while you were saying I play that clip about the reporter trying to do a gotcha with Pete Hexit, a boots on the ground. Rob, you may want to play that clip. And Vinny, I'll come to you. Go for it.

[Adam]

There's been lots of media coverage that

[Pat]

suggested a ground invasion is imminent. What other purposes might the soldiers and the Marines who have been deployed over to the Middle east serve in this conflict?

[Vinny]

Well, just like the previous question, it's sort of Military 101. Don't tell your enemy what you're willing to do or not do and don't tell your enemy when you're willing to stop. Especially an enemy that likes to hide in bunkers and try to hoard their missiles and hope you'll wait you out. So that's not a question I'm going to answer or the President has said definitively we have our own goals and guidance and things were military objectives that we're moving toward and things that we look at. And as he's articulated, you know, he said four to six weeks, six to eight weeks, three. It could be any, any particular number. But we would never reveal precisely what it is because our goal is to finish those objectives and we're well on our way. And the Chairman and I look at this every single day. It will be the President's determination and the President's determination alone. I'm not going to sit here and act like I'm, you know, military strategist, but I mean, he's the Department of War, he's, he's, he's the leader, he makes fantastic points. You don't tell the enemy. But if this does, because they're saying that they want to send ground troops, that's where it gets dangerous. The moment boots hit the ground you have to think about this, Pat. Iranian drones, the missiles, ground fire, explosives, mines, all that. And I have to be honest, I'm with you in the three to six. But now with ground troops, I think it goes a little bit past six months, potentially a year. Because think about it, you can't go 6 to 12. I think it goes. I. I think if it goes six

[Pat]

to 12 months, yeah, it's going to be a bloodbath. And I agree. But. But look, so let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. Here's a question for you, for all of you, Tom. So let's just say it goes. One, say they go, regime collapse. They go in similar to Venezuela, they take over irgc, is done. One, two, they say they got rid of all the nuclear weapons, all the nuclear capabilities, everything. That's the next case. Two, three, they just get out and they do PR messaging. We got the job done. We did what. We went there, what we were supposed to do, but everybody's like, wait a minute, messaging was off. You said, you're gonna do this. You say you're gonna do that. You said you're gonna do this. But none of that stuff happened, right? Which one. Which event that happens between now and the midterms is going to help Republicans the most? Which event? I think option two, which is what?

[Vinny]

We went in there, we took out all their enriched uranium and all that stuff, and now we're going to help them, I guess with leadership or something like with Reza Palavia, who said, I'm going to wait for all this craziness to stop, and then I'm going to come in and help them.

[Pat]

Is there anything they can do with Iran for it to be favorable for Republicans during midterm? Give me the most favorable situation for it to happen, for the market to be like, oh, my God, he did it again. They're gonna sweep. You know, midterms is gonna be insane. What is that one event that could happen with Iran?

[Vinny]

The most favorable is because Bibi just came out. I told Rob. I sent this to Rob. Rob, you don't have to pull up Bibi. Netanyahu has declared that Iran is no longer poses an existential threat to Israel. That means they're all the weapons to hit Israel is gone, which is great news. Okay? The only way, Pat, that this, like, the best news is, guys, all the uranium, all the missiles are gone. And by the way, we've been kind of on the side, Pop. Having leadership, like, having a government where the people want this guy, they want Reza and this guy. And guys, they're going to start taking over, which we don't have to put. No regime change or nothing. The people have chosen. That's the only way. People are going to be like, okay, you guys kept it kind of secret, but okay, good for you.

[Adam]

Adam, I'm actually very glad that you're asking this question, because this is the number one question. All I've been focusing on is the signal through the noise of what's going on here. So Rubio came out and said it. Here it is. He says, you want to know what the objectives of the world actually play that clip.

[Pat]

Here they actually play that clip. That's what I want to go over. Yeah, play the clip of what Rubio said. And then I'm not even sure if

[Adam]

I come back, but go ahead.

[Pat]

I think this is it. What are you saying? People are asking what the objective of this. Go ahead.

[Adam]

But I saw another clip go ahead. Americans are asking, why did the United States have to attack Iran now? Well, let me explain. Iran wants to have nuclear weapons. Of that there is zero doubt if what they truly wanted, which is what they claim is nuclear energy. Well, they could have nuclear energy like all the other countries in the world have it. And that is you import the fuel and you build reactors above ground. That's not what Iran has done. They build their reactors and their facilities deep in mountains, away from the public glare, and they want to enrich that material. The same equipment that they could use to enrich material for energy, they could use to quickly enrich it to weapons grade. So it is clear that they've been offered every opportunity to have a nuclear program that allows them to have energy, not weapons. And every single time, they have turned it down. But why the attack now? Well, what was Iran trying to do? Iran was trying to build a conventional shield, in essence, have so many missiles, have so many drones that no one could attack them. And they were well on their way. We were on the verge of an Iran that had so many missiles and so many drones that no one could do anything about their nuclear weapons program in the future. That was an intolerable risk. Under no circumstances can a country run by radical Shia clerics with an apocalyptic vision of the future and ever possess nuclear weapons. And under no circumstances can they be allowed to hide and protect that program and their ambitions behind a shield of missiles and drones that no one can do anything about. This was our last, best chance to eliminate that conventional threat, that conventional shield that they were trying to build. And the President made the right decision to wipe it out. Now, that is the goal of this operation, to destroy their conventional missiles and their drone program so they can't hide behind it and, and finally have to deal with the world seriously about never ever having nuclear. Yeah, I mean, listen, sometimes you don't need to debate a million different things. When someone comes out and tells you. Now here's the question I'll ask. Do you believe Rubio? Cuz for me, when I see Rubio, I have a very calm presence. I know he's not going to say anything bombastic. I know he's not going to try to antagonize people. I actually think that Rubio is a very stabilizing voice in the Trump administration. And the poll that we just showed proves it. Did it not?

[Pat]

33.

[Adam]

So to me, this is how I process this. This is a moral and just war that needed to get done. Trump is the man of the hour and he needed to be the person to do this. We've done 1987, he talked about this. How many presidents have we had since then? 10 different presidents. Whatever it's been, nobody's done anything or they haven't done anything enough to basically mitigate this threat from Iran. So Rubio comes out there and says, listen, guys, there's three very clear objectives. Number one, we're going to completely destroy their military, all their capabilities, their air force, their navy, their ballistic missiles. Why? Because they have this shield. How many times did he mention shield in that little two minute speech? At least three times. Because basically shielding their nuclear ambitions. And yes, they have nuclear ambitions, that's not even a doubt. Last but not least, we're going to defeat their terror network, which was they've done with their allies, Israel, namely. And so they can't basically fly their planes, which we just took out their air force, so they can fly their planes to drop off weapons to Hezbollah or Hamas or the Houthis. So to me, this is stability through strength. Iran is never. Listen, I know you've talked about being sort of like the doomsday approach, we got to take them all out. In my approach, this is it. We're completely defanging these people. They use that term. You guys want to be radicals, you want to be Shiite radical Muslims, go right ahead. You want to kill your own people? Do you? Buddy, we think you're disgusting. We don't agree with you. If you want to do this thing in your neck of the woods, that's all you. But you're not going to hold the rest of the world hostage. Like North Korea. And I'm so glad that Trump and Rubio have this moral clarity to mitigate this cancer.

[Pat]

You know what? You just made me think about what the President could announce tonight. Let me tell you what he could announce tonight. You know what will be a massive announcement tonight. How much has the war cost so far? Is it 33 billion, 35 billion? 40 billion? What's the number, Rob? How much has the war cost us so far? What's the number? No, it's a higher number than that. I saw 25 billion. Okay, let's just say. Let's say 25 to 35 billion dollars.

[Adam]

And then they asked for an extra, I think 200 billion.

[Pat]

200 billion with a B. Hexa asked for 200 billion. But let's say so far it's cost 25 to 35 billion dollars. Okay, imagine he comes out tonight and he says, hey, big announcement. We just officially finalized a deal that uae, mbs, Qatar and the Gulf states have decided to fund the war against Iran. You won't be paying for it. They have decided, and here's what the message is from them now. What do they say? So imagine so the argument of finances and taxes, that goes away. He says, imagine how much the people who are against this war, they said finances first. Imagine how important this has to be to the Gulf states where they're sitting there saying, we don't want any of this. I want to play you two clips. We don't want any of this so much that guess what? We're willing to pay for it. You know, you got $18 trillion of companies that committed, countries that committed to investing here. What is it to couple these Gulf states to say, I'll give you $200 billion, we'll fund it, we'll pay for it. If that announcement is made tonight, wow. But let me tell you, it shuts a lot of people up. Let me tell you why I think that's a possibility. Rob, do you have that clip from MBS explaining what his thoughts were? I think I sent that. You should have it somewhere where he's talking about Iran. And then after that, I want you to go to one other clip and then I want to go to the. The other stories. If you don't have it, I can text it to you. It was in my notes, by the way. Okay, let me just send this over here. It's in my notes. I'll just text it to you, Rob. I'll make it easier for you. Rob and I, you know, Listen, we text 50, 100 times during the podcast that nobody knows. Rob, we're on texting mode at this point. Rob, if you want to go to. I just texted it to you right, right there. I want you to watch this. Mbs. Who is mbs?

[Adam]

Mohammed bin Salman King.

[Pat]

Pretty heavy duty guy, right? Play this clip. Play this clip. Go ahead, Rob. Go ahead, read. Most of these destructive projects are currently found in the Middle East. And right next to us in the Kingdom of Saudi, there's an Iranian regime that we all know has a purely ideological goal. Its aim is not to serve the interests of Iran or the Iranian people, but rather to serve the Iranian ideological interests. There has been plenty of evidence over the past 30 years. The most recent when they received $150 billion and didn't even build a single street housing complex. Their goal is clear that they only spent that money on launching missiles at Saudi and supporting terrorist organizations in many parts of the world. Furthermore, the Iranian regime's work in supporting terrorism is not limited to Hezbollah Houthis. We find today that many of the Al Qaeda's leaderships are based in Iran, including the son of Osama bin Laden, who was nurtured and raised in Iran and now is trying to become the next leader of Al Qaeda. We are all aware of the risks and we are communicating on how to deal with them to ensure that the entire world is safe and secure, whether in the Middle East, Europe, or anywhere else from these destructive ideologies. Okay? So you watch this. And who knows their neighbors better than a guy that lives in that community? Nobody. So if I was to ask you right now, you live in a community and imagine I'm telling you what your neighborhood is like.

[Vinny]

You don't know them.

[Pat]

You've been living there for 20 years, but you're like, what are you talking about? It's not like that. Yeah, I live there. Yeah, okay. Do you know in Saudi, if you go around committing crime, what they do to you in Saudi? You know what the tolerance.

[Adam]

Oh, you're finished.

[Vinny]

If they. If you steal, do they still chop your hand off?

[Pat]

Do you know what the tolerance they have there for crime? Do you know what they'll do to you if you go speak radical languages? Now, I want you to see supporters of IRGC in the streets, how they're speaking. I want you to watch how this woman speaks and tell me if you think in their hearts where they're at. These are civilians. These are not leaders. These are civilians giving a message to the President. Go ahead, Rob.

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[Vinny]

We're not scared. You can't scare us.

[Pat]

We are Iranians.

[Vinny]

We're not scared.

[Adam]

We're not scared of your bombs.

[Vinny]

You lack what we don't.

[Pat]

You lack faith.

[Vinny]

What we don't.

[Pat]

We have our faith. Listen, we have our faith on our

[Vinny]

soil, on our country, on our leadership. What you don't.

[Pat]

You don't have courage. We have. You lack.

[Adam]

Your soldiers lack courage.

[Pat]

Your soldiers lack courage.

[Adam]

Don't lack courage.

[Pat]

So remember that you're the loser. You're the loser in this war.

[Vinny]

That's for sure.

[Adam]

You are.

[Pat]

You already have lost and you know that. Listen,

[Adam]

This is to.

[Pat]

Yeah, so just letting you know on where they're at. Right. Support Baba. I live with these people. I live with them. There was two channels that they're repeating things over and over and over again. I want to give credit to Pierce. Piers had one of the spokesperson on and the guy almost walked out. I don't know if you guys have seen this clip or not where he pushes back. He says, respectfully, there's a big difference between you guys and us. Is this it, Rob? Go click on this one. I'll let you know if this is the one or not.

[Vinny]

I'll tell you what, we'll end it like this. I've had you on my show many, many times, right? When do I get invited on Iranian state television? Oh, you've gone. I invited you to Iran, Pierce.

[Pat]

I invited you to Iran.

[Adam]

I'll do it like you do. I'll do it like you do.

[Vinny]

Down the barrel of a camera. You put me on Iranian state television and let me say what I think about in the way that I let you come on my show and criticize my country and the United States and the West. Fair is fair, right, Professor? Because you've got freedom of speech in Iran. No problem in me, Piers Morgan, going on Iranian state television and hammering your regime. Only you won't let that happen. And the regime won't let it happen. Because amongst the many things that you repress, the biggest thing you repress is freedom of speech. That's why you can't talk out against your regime.

[Pat]

And that's why you wouldn't let me

[Vinny]

go on state TV in Iran and talk out against your regime. And that is the difference between us. So you can try and take the high moral ground, but the reality is that is the difference.

[Adam]

Take the best I've seen Piers Morgan do. Yeah, by far.

[Pat]

But it's a point to understand what that climate is. So if tonight the president gets up and announces that the Gulf states have agreed to fund everything that we're spending, the market is going to be confused on what angle to take with this. And they're going to be like, yeah, but. Yeah, but. Yeah, but. So at least one of the issues with money's been addressed. So the other issues that he has to address as well, which is a bigger one, what's the other one?

[Tom]

When it's over.

[Pat]

When. When it's over, are troops on the ground? Like, is that going to happen? So how they're going to address that, nobody knows. You know, Hexad said three weeks ago, that's president's decision. If he wants to do it, he has a choice to do it. But I guarantee you he is thinking about every single one of these things. That said, the Pentagon prepares for weeks of ground invasion. Vinnie, I'll come to you and I want to go to next.

[Vinny]

Okay? And I'll do a fact. And the only. Pat, the only thing that bothers me, a ground troops because it's our soldiers. I don't want any of our men about that. Women.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Vinny]

Dying. The only thing that bothers me, Pat, because, Adam, you brought up Israel for a second. They're saying that they're not going to send any ground.

[Adam]

I brought up Israel.

[Vinny]

No, you did earlier. No, you did earlier. You did. And you talked about the people of Iran, but I'll get to that, too. Israel is not going to send Any ground troops, because it does not have the logistics to sustain the forces that far from home. But the one thing that pisses me off is, like, right now they have boots in the ground in Lebanon and they're actually seizing land. They're creating a buffer zone.

[Tom]

Whose boots?

[Vinny]

Israeli boots? No, no, that's what I'm saying, Tom and Adam, I want to hear your opinion on this. They have boots on the ground, they're seizing land. So you're not going to put boots on the ground in Iran, which, by the way, this war is for both of us, allegedly more for Israel than us. But then you have people there, you have your boots on the ground. 600,000 of those Lebanese people have to move out. They say that they're going to be able to come back. And that's what, like, that tells me clearly that the logistics is for them when it serves their objectives. And I said this on the first podcast we did on the stage in the other building. If we send a thousand of our American troops, I want 1000 Israeli boots on the ground as well. But from what I'm hearing, Adam, from what they're saying, it's not going to happen. Ok, and like, what do we. Like, I disagree with that 1000%. And earlier you said something about, hey, if they want to kill each other and whatever the people, whatever this whole thing started, my, from what I recall is for the Iranian people, the Iraq, by the way, who we haven't heard.

[Tom]

I have your back.

[Vinny]

I have your back and I haven't heard one. This guy that we just saw, he has wi fi. He's sitting in a room, he's talking to Piers Morgan. What happened to the people? I haven't heard anything. I haven't heard any updates. And that's, that's what I care about. Because to me, besides the missiles and the, in your uranium, what about the thousands that were in the street fighting and dying and, and pushing out their voices and the, the, the wrestlers that were being hanged in the middle of the street? That's what this comes down to. And I'm very disappointed that Israel's attitude is not, we're not gonna, we're not gonna put troops. Meanwhile, we're trying to expand somewhere else. And then when you bring up the Greater Israel Project, people are like, you're crazy.

[Pat]

By the way, that's a very, that's a very valid question. If, Very valid question. If I'm sending my guys, you gotta send your guys. If you don't send your guys, I'm sending my guys. Even the most logical player cannot sit there and say, what are you talking about? Even the most logical player. And by the way, even more from your end. I don't even want it to be one for one. I don't even want it to be one for one. It's got to be two for one, three for one. Because this benefits you more than it benefits me. I know we're partners, but it's got to be a two to one or three to one situation when that's taking place.

[Vinny]

And then what does that say, Pat? What does that say about your ally? That they're like, no, we're good, but you're over here, you're expanding. Like, wait a minute, time out. You. This is the situation we're at.

[Pat]

The expanding part of Lebanon is your. But, but walk me through it. How is that a concern of you?

[Vinny]

Why you. Because right now, right now, the focus should be this war. Not if you're, if you're defending.

[Pat]

That's not how this works, though. No, that's not how this works. And, and let me tell you what I mean by that's not how it works. So a lot of times when you're, when you're in a, when you're in a very, very chaotic situation, like when the. Okay, let me put it to you this way. Remember when Covid happened, how many banks were getting killed and crushed? Remember, Tom, when Covid happened, how bad was it for some banks? It was scary for a lot of guys, very scary. Okay, so who capitalized off that crisis? Go ahead. No, no, watch this. Go ahead.

[Tom]

Kami Dimon.

[Pat]

How many times?

[Tom]

Multiple.

[Pat]

Multiple times.

[Tom]

You know why? Because he had all the dry powder to absorb the banks. Cuz he understood that what was coming.

[Pat]

So let me ask you a question. Would you call Jamie Dimon an expansionist? Of course. It's not even hesitation.

[Tom]

I call him a business guy.

[Pat]

I know, but what I'm saying is in this reference, yes, he's an expansionist. You're expanding. And he bought up other banks that couldn't handle it. You don't think in this situation Netanyahu is going to be an opportunistic guy and saying, hey, let's take this, let's take that, let's take this. Of course he is. Trump would do that. If Trump. You don't think Trump's gonna be taking over Cuba? What do you call that?

[Vinny]

I think so.

[Pat]

You don't think if Trump gets a chance to take over Greenland, he will. You don't think if Trump gets a chance to Take over. He will, of course. So the part where I'm going with this is the following. You can watch a guy and criticize him on a few different things, but also be able to sit there and say, I understand he's being opportunistic and taking advantage of what's going on right now. And he's getting everything he can at this point. Trump does that. He does that. I get that. I. If I'm on the phone with him and I say, wait, you want me to send how many? I'm gonna send this. But here's the deal. For every one I send, you send three. For every one I send, you send two. Cuz if you're getting out there saying we're not gonna have any boots on the ground, guess what. Yeah, why am I sending my boots on the ground?

[Vinny]

Yeah, that's my.

[Pat]

So then if I'm sending my boots on the ground, guess what I have to get from you?

[Vinny]

Boots on the ground?

[Pat]

No, not boots. You don't think if I'm sending my boots on the ground behind closed doors, I have to negotiate a strong deal to get more things out of you?

[Vinny]

Oh, of course.

[Pat]

I have to.

[Vinny]

I think so.

[Pat]

That we don't know.

[Vinny]

Yes.

[Pat]

I don't know that part. So that's the conversation. I don't know. Yeah, there was a rumor that came out, I don't know if you guys saw this, that J.D. vance called Netanyahu. Did you guys hear about the story that J.D. did you hear that one, Rob or

[Tom]

No, I did not.

[Pat]

Yeah, that JD Called Netanyahu and it's like, hey, you know, why are you making us go into this war? And allegedly this happened, you know, angry phone call with which. Which news is that JD Vance rips into Netanyahu on a phone call over Iran report. Allegedly. Nobody knows this for a fact. Go a little bit lower. Rob and Vance majority of. During the phone call, Vance told Netanyahu that his predictions about the war, which he told Trump about, had not come true. Netanyahu allegedly told Trump that the Iran war would be quick. As of now, the White House is considering sending more troops before the war. Bibi really sold it to the president as being easy as regime change being a lot likelier than what it was. One source told Axios and a VP was clear eyed about some of those statements. Go a little bit lower. What's so different about the Jesse. Is that the President has clearly identified about this Jesse. Is that the President has clearly identified what he wants to accomplish and there's just no way Vance said during an interview. So here's the, here's the thing also with Vance on what he's doing. Okay? It's funny, like when I watch Vance versus I watch Rubio, this is the vibe I get. I get a vibe of a guy that is making all his moves so calculated for career advancement versus a guy that's doing what he thinks is the right thing to do because he believes it. So let me give you the difference. I've worked with a lot of guys from both ends. I don't know if you understand what I'm saying.

[Tom]

Tom, I know exactly what you're saying, and I'm with you. One guy is doing his job and he believes it. The other guy is positioned.

[Pat]

So I think JD right now is, you know, this phone call that was made is like, hey, make the phone call. Leak it to the press. Leak it to the press. Why? Because he wants the non interventionist. Those guys who say, oh, wow, that's my guy that did this. Where Rubio, honestly, like, who do you think is more resolved on what he or she is doing that can handle the criticism?

[Vinny]

Marco Rubio.

[Pat]

It's not even close.

[Vinny]

Of course.

[Pat]

He's like, no, this is what I believe in. This is what I'm doing. Here's what we're going. And I've been saying this for a while. I want to be documented saying this in 2015, 11 years ago. So to me, these types of calls that are happening, it's more a positioning call than it is a, you know, tell them how hard I was on bb. Tell them how hard and how much I pushed them. Use these words, oh, my God, look at the backbone and all this other stuff. Now, this could be a true story. And I'm. Maybe I'm pushing it too much, but I'm just telling you, I see some of the stuff that's happening. There's two opportunities.

[Tom]

I think you're right. Vinnie, picture the primaries in 28. Yeah, hang on, hang on, hang on. Who picked up the phone and called Bibi and said, how could you?

[Vinny]

I did.

[Pat]

I see that.

[Vinny]

Who. Who said I was less enthusiastic?

[Pat]

I see that and I don't. I see that.

[Vinny]

Remember, the President said, because Trump said this about J.D. vance, he's less enthusiastic about the war

[Pat]

and what's the script? The script is going to be. Not going to lie to you. I was conflicted. Yes, I was conflicted.

[Vinny]

I couldn't say anything, but I supported

[Tom]

the Commander in Chief.

[Pat]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, I was conflicted. So we'll see.

[Adam]

Adam Yeah, I don't know what J.D. vance's strategy is. I would give him one piece of advice. Don't cross Trump. It's not gonna work out well for you, but I'm just gonna go rapid fire here cuz we covered a lot of things. Number one, Trump and mbs, you talked about him. They have a bromance. It's not even close at this point. They are genuinely friends and they're cool. I wouldn't even say that Bibi and Trump have a bromance. I think they're just strategic allies that negotiate and are on the same page maybe 80% of the time, but they're not fully, fully, fully aligned, nor should they be. Everyone has their own interest in there. But Trump and MBS do have a special relationship. And yes, I think the Gulf states and yes, I think the regional actors should pay the price. We're protecting your ass. Saudi, Qatar, uae, Bahrain, Oman. Who's attacking you? Not Israel, not us, it's Iran. So we know the threats there. So yes, pay up. Just like NATO has to pay up. Just like he's made them go from 2% to 4% to possibly 5%. As far as Israel, boots on the ground, I don't know anything about this, but I'll give my assessment. Do you know how many wars they're fighting? Do you know Israel is the size of the state of New Jersey? Do me a favor, pull up the map of the Middle East. We'll talk about expansionism for a second. Israel is this tiny. How many people do you think I have in their military? They have wars going on in Hezbollah on their north, they have Gaza and the west bank on their east and their west. They get the Houthis on their south. And we need to take our small little mighty military and export it outside the world. We literally just don't have the manpower. So as far as expansionism, that's not the point. But hold on, let me finish my point. As far as expansionism, but okay, you want to talk about boots on the ground. Israel has 1 million percent more boots on the ground right now. You know what they're called? Mossad. Do you know how many people of Mossad that are in that negotiation?

[Pat]

Work with me. No, that.

[Adam]

Okay, but it doesn't matter what it works.

[Pat]

Let me explain to you.

[Adam]

It matters what works with our President.

[Pat]

Explain to you. Let me explain.

[Adam]

Can I finish my point?

[Pat]

No, you can't. Let me explain you on this specific and then you can finish your thought for me. Is that is a very cold argument. To make to somebody who has lost a family member to a war that they didn't support. That's exactly the point why so many people hate these effing wars. Because they lost a child, they lost a brother, they lost a son. Go talk to those guys that have a job in the military that have to go explain to the mom and dad, your son just got killed. And for the rest of that person's life, that parent's life, go tell them, hey, support this thing here. No, to me, Mossad is Mossad. Go do what you're doing with Mossad. If I'm putting our kids lives on the line, where are you with it? Who. Who if US is going to send troops and our Marines, the best of the best in the world. If they're going to go and our guys are going to be there, I expect you to be there.

[Adam]

Who's you?

[Pat]

You be in Israel.

[Adam]

But why are we only talking about Israel? We didn't we just talk about Israel? Are we not sending any other troops?

[Pat]

This is.

[Adam]

Are we not sending Qatari troops? Are we not sending Saudi troops?

[Pat]

The war. This is the war.

[Tom]

Mainly.

[Pat]

This war started mainly.

[Adam]

But. But you just said are they going

[Pat]

to financially support got started. What Rob posted it first podcast. We did. You know what Rob posted the title? The Israel US attack on Iran.

[Vinny]

Bingo.

[Pat]

That's what is when the war first started. It doesn't matter now. Other people are coming ongoing. No, no.

[Adam]

This is the latest iteration of this.

[Pat]

No. If there is what was the 12 Day War? Is Saudi known for having a strong military? Is that what they're known for? Neither is Iran who is known for having a great intelligence, great military, great air force, United States, who else is what? Exactly.

[Vinny]

So if K Pop demon hunters, Haja boy's breakfast meal and hunt tricks meal have just dropped at McDonald's, they're calling this a battle for the fans. What do you say to that, Rumi?

[Pat]

It's not a battle.

[Vinny]

So glad the Saja boys could take

[Pat]

breakfast and give our meal the rest of the day.

[Vinny]

It is an honor to share.

[Adam]

No, it's our honor.

[Vinny]

It is our larger honor. No, really, stop. You can really.

[Adam]

They feel the respect in this battle.

[Tom]

Pick a meal to pick a side.

[Adam]

Participate in McDonald's while supplies last.

[Pat]

If I'm putting troops on the ground. Okay, I expect you to put troops on the ground.

[Adam]

I'm with you on that. Let's not pretend that Israel isn't already fighting a war hardcore for the last three years.

[Vinny]

Yeah, but United States.

[Adam]

But guys, I'm an American. I don't want to see our American troops over there. I don't want troops over there.

[Vinny]

But, Adam, I'm not condoning that.

[Adam]

If we're going to pretend that Israel isn't already fighting wars.

[Vinny]

Hold on, then.

[Adam]

And defeating their enemies with naive at best.

[Vinny]

You can't sit in this room. You can't sit in this room. All of us right now, going to plan that. We're going to go in that room and beat the crap out of everybody in the studio room. And then when it's time to go, you're like, no, no, no. I got other fights. But you're assuming that. No, no, hold on.

[Adam]

I'm not assuming it's actually happening. Israel said it, so then.

[Vinny]

Israel said it, so then the United

[Adam]

States should say this.

[Vinny]

Hold on.

[Adam]

So the United States by country should say this. Well, if you don't send anybody.

[Vinny]

We're not sending anybody, Adam. We have no. Hold on, hold on. Isn't that how negotiation works?

[Adam]

And if they go, oh, okay, let me think.

[Vinny]

Adam, in 2003, the Iraq would be

[Adam]

walking around and the United States is.

[Vinny]

Just because Bibi Netanyahu.

[Adam]

Let me finish.

[Vinny]

Bibi Netanyahu.

[Adam]

Why does he have to finish?

[Vinny]

Because I want to make a point. And two things. Come on, guys.

[Tom]

Adam, come on.

[Pat]

So for me, these are two things you said. If they do so, why are they sending it without them committing to it? You're saying this us. The argument here isn't that the argument is the people in America, again, pulse. The people in America, when you get their pulse, you know what they're asking themselves. Today's social media is a very different climate we're living in. Take the 51% of bots that do a great job and it confuse the hell out of everybody. But take some of the reasonable players that come out. And a lot of these reasonable players are former vets. I put them as reasonable. You were maybe Ranger, you were maybe a paratrooper, you were maybe a seal. Or you've actually gone and seen this kind of stuff and you've asked yourself, he was in the military, I was in the military. And you see the level of frustration. Why did I do this? This was a waste of time. And a big part of it is, I lost a friend, I lost a brother, I lost a cousin. I don't want to do it if you're not in on it as well. By the way, you said, how do we know? We don't know. You're right. We don't know. None of us know, maybe they are, but Bibi said they're not going to put a single, you know, thank you so much. A single boot on the ground. If you're not and we do, that is gonna be a very big problem with a lot of Americans.

[Adam]

I don't know who came out and said that. And I'd like to validate, but I would like to understand why. Cuz it's so easy to be like, oh, they're not doing it. So obviously they're just expecting them to fight their wars. That is like naive at best. That is the American isolationist default position. How about asking, peeling the onion and say, well, why would they say that? Why would they not want to commit boots on the crown? Are they saying that or are they playing strategic games here? Why are they doing that?

[Vinny]

Why did they say?

[Adam]

They said, why is America.

[Vinny]

Because it does not have the logistics to sustain forces that far from home. Adam, Bibi Netanyahu went to Congress how many times and said Iraq, Iraq. How many soldiers were deployed in 2000?

[Adam]

So you fell for that? You fell for that also.

[Vinny]

I fell for what? Hold on. How many is why did we go to Iraq? I'm going to. Wait, Pat, tell me.

[Adam]

Why did we go to Iraq?

[Vinny]

What do you mean why did we go to Iraq? He said, we all said they had weapons of mass destruction. We were lied to. How many troops? BB Said it and we believe we got it. Hold on 1 second.

[Adam]

So BB runs all United States. Got it.

[Tom]

Adam. Respectively. You just yelled at me and told

[Adam]

me to let you finish. Go ahead.

[Tom]

Let you finish.

[Vinny]

How many Israeli troops were deployed in 20, 23 for Iraq or in Afghanistan? What do you mean how many? Zero. Zero. This is supposed to be a team effort. So if we go, you go.

[Adam]

And they're not. So ultimately, what's your point?

[Vinny]

My point. Point. What do you want to do with Israel, Adam? Might put.

[Adam]

Give me your recommendation.

[Vinny]

Give us. Guess what, what do you want? Put boots on the ground. If you're going to talk all this and bring us into war, put your boots on the ground. I've been saying it for how long?

[Adam]

What do you think the IDF has been doing? Fighting wars all over the Middle East.

[Vinny]

So Adam, soldiers, Marines, let's go. Okay, if we're going, you're going.

[Adam]

And Benny Gans, whoever's running the IDF are discussing this.

[Vinny]

Israel's not going to me.

[Adam]

This is so stupid to pretend that they're just.

[Vinny]

They're not going to do.

[Pat]

You're fine. So I'm going to get to the next Story. But by the way, notice what happened with the tension here, and this is just the four of us. Thank you so much. Notice what happened with the tension here, and it's just the four of us. This is one of the issues in America today that is truly a conversation people are having. This is a real conversation that's being had. And by the way, where do you put me? You think I'm an isolationist? I hope not. What do you think I am?

[Adam]

I think since we've invaded Iran, you're probably more on the pro ally side at this point. We didn't have isolation.

[Pat]

Pro ally with who?

[Adam]

With what America's military's might.

[Pat]

I'm not an isolationist. I'm not. No. No, I'm not. Because to me, that mindset doesn't work because my experience in business and my experience of being in the military and having lived in a country with war. You can't be an isolationist for the rest of your life. Eventually, a guy's going to come and knock on your door and say, hey, you're so weak. Come here. Give me everything you got. You can't. You have to show strength. People have to know you can push your weight around. And every once in a while, you know, there needs to be a statement. Hey, Fafo, there needs to be that reputation. I am that guy. I'm the guy that you need to set the tone in a marketplace that they know. But at the same time, if I'm going to be on the phone with you and you're a world leader and you're asking certain requests, I'm going to say, here's how I'll do it with you. This is more important to me. I need you to show up with the following. If I'm going to put my guys on the line, I need you to put two times as many.

[Adam]

So can we. Can we role play for a second? I know you want to move on. Who do you want to be? You want to be Trump? You want to be Bibi? What do you. How do you want to do this?

[Pat]

Whatever.

[Adam]

I'll be Bibi.

[Pat]

Okay, go.

[Vinny]

You go.

[Adam]

You're Trump. You're who? Hag?

[Pat]

Seth, Whoever.

[Adam]

What's your demand?

[Pat]

I'm Trump.

[Adam]

Let him be.

[Pat]

Hey, listen, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll. I don't have a problem helping you out because I think we benefit from this as well. Sure, I want to be able to do this as well, but if I'm going to send my troops, you got to send yours.

[Adam]

As well, okay, let's talk about what the plan is. Okay. We obviously want to defeat terrorism. That's the number one threat. You said it yourself. You wanted to take out the nuclear ambitions here. We've seen them kill 30 to 50,000 of their own people. They have their proxies attacking us. We've. We've created the iron dome, which are basically helping you create.

[Pat]

What is this? So now what are you doing right now?

[Adam]

So I'm just giving you doing right now. So what I'm saying to you is, what do you want us to do now?

[Pat]

No, what I'm asking you is if I'm going to send troops, I need you to send troops.

[Adam]

Okay. How many troops do you want?

[Pat]

Two to one. If I send 1,000, you got to send two.

[Adam]

No, we're not. We don't have those capabilities right now.

[Pat]

What capability?

[Adam]

We need to defend. We need to defend because we're basically

[Pat]

being attacked by this one. Do it by yourself.

[Adam]

Perfect. You just. You just.

[Pat]

You just prove me right by yourself.

[Adam]

Then don't send them. That's my point.

[Pat]

Trust me. That's where we are.

[Adam]

Exactly.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

So if the United States sends troops, which I don't want them to, but they do it. But Bibi goes, listen, we can't send troops. That's on Trump. That's on Pete Hexa.

[Pat]

That's on Trump and Hexa. If we're negotiating, they made the decision.

[Vinny]

Yes, I know.

[Pat]

I agree.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Pat]

No, no, but this is not.

[Adam]

If we're negotiating, and you said, adam, I need you to do this, and

[Pat]

I say, pat, if I can't do

[Adam]

that, and you go, listen, I need you to do it.

[Pat]

If I'm negotiating, I'm not doing it without you sending troops.

[Adam]

That's fine.

[Pat]

You have to have skin in a game. Sure, if you got skin in a game. Let's roll.

[Adam]

You just said the key word skin in the game. But define skin in the game.

[Pat]

There might be. Not enough. I got CIA as well. You got to do more than massad for. For me. You got to do more than massage.

[Adam]

But that's a negotiation.

[Vinny]

So here's.

[Adam]

Here's. Here's the big question.

[Pat]

It's death.

[Adam]

Here's the number one question. Do you not think that conversation is taking.

[Pat]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Adam]

You don't think that conversation.

[Pat]

I don't know.

[Adam]

Come on.

[Pat]

I don't know about the troops, Adam. I am.

[Adam]

Do you think they're just blindly walking into this?

[Pat]

You have to know where I'm at

[Adam]

Guarantee you that conversation place and said, you do this, I'm going to do this. Let's figure this out.

[Pat]

I'll go here. My position, very clear. I go right. My position has been very clear. My position's been very clear. I study patterns, and when I get somebody, like, if morale goes and negotiates on my behalf with a carrier and I'm not in the room, I don't care. I trust her. I don't care. I trust her. If Tom is handling a massive crisis, that somebody needs to use the right words when talking to somebody. We just did one last week. I don't care. I trust Tom. I trust him. I voted for this guy three times, Trump. I trust that he's doing the right thing.

[Adam]

I agree.

[Pat]

What I'm saying to you is, if this conversation comes up, the American people are going to ask, is it one for one? They're going to ask, sure. And if he chooses not to go, he's going to get the criticism. If he's okay with that, great.

[Adam]

Ultimately, we're saying the same thing. We trust Trump in these deals.

[Pat]

I know, but what I'm saying to you is the way I'm negotiating is I'm going to have you have some skin in the game is the way I'm negotiating. That's all I'm saying. And that's how it should be. Guys, I got 45 minutes. I got a bunch of other stories to get into, so let me get into it. All right, let's go to the next story. Professor Jenk, who was one of the guys that talked about, you know, he made the prediction and what was it? July of 2024. He said, President Trump's gonna win. They're gonna go to war to Iran, and they're gonna lose. That's the prediction that he made. And then Sagar and them had him on the podcast. When they had him on the podcast, I messaged. What is their podcast called? They actually do a very good job Breaking Points. I messaged Breaking Points immediately and I said, great conversation. The world needs to hear this conversation. Matter of fact, let me tell you, when I DM'd breaking points and told them, great job interviewing this Jan guy, because guess what we need in America? We need different points. My message to him. Vinny, can you tell them when this message was sent? What's the date on that Wednesday?

[Vinny]

March 4th.

[Pat]

March 4th. And what did I say in the text to them?

[Vinny]

Great work with the recent interview.

[Pat]

Yeah. And that was the interview with Cenk. Okay, so then we invite to have a Conversation with him. He's on a conversation with another guy who, you know, he's been mouthing off a lot lately, and he's doing his own thing. You know, we had a conversation with him. I don't want to talk about the individual's name. And all of a sudden he's like, well, the reason. Because I thought this was gonna be hit piece. That's why I didn't want to go on PBD podcast. They were trying to do hit piece. Hit piece. Having a conversation with you.

[Adam]

That's what this guy Zhang said.

[Pat]

That's what the guy said on camera. He says, yeah. What was award Hughes, Rob? I think they were trying to set. It was a setup. It was a setup. And I'm like, I want to hear your thoughts and your angles on where you came with this conclusion. And then the person he probably least worried about, you know, taking a shot at Omaha, Son. Kudos to Mehdi Hasan on this interview. Good for you, Mehdi. Play this clip. Rope. Go for it.

[Vinny]

English lit graduate.

[Pat]

And you're not a professor.

[Vinny]

I know it's your YouTube moniker, but you're a high school teacher.

[Pat]

You're not actually a professor, right? Yeah, and I'm not a professor.

[Vinny]

I'm not a professor, but. But I never said I was professor. It's the Internet who called me. Hold on, hold on. Hi, YouTube, this is Professor Jiang. Hi, YouTube, this is professor.

[Tom]

Professor Jiang here.

[Vinny]

Professor Jiang here. Professor Jiang here. Professor Jiang here. You do call yourself Professor Jiang, and

[Pat]

you're not a professor.

[Vinny]

Look, look, there's a guy on the neck who comes out who calls himself the God.

[Pat]

I'm good friends with the radio host

[Vinny]

called Charlemagne the God, but no one actually thinks he's a God.

[Pat]

People actually think you're a professor.

[Vinny]

Professor Jiang here.

[Pat]

So this. This is the part when you come out and you represent yourself of somebody who you're not. The market's eventually going to expose you, and you're going to get out. And by the way, you know what else Mehdi asked me? So a lot of people are thinking you're with China and you're maybe, you know, somebody that is actually, you know, doing this to kind of, you know, hurt America because your motives are more supporting for the Chinese regime and all this other stuff. And that also came up, and he says, that's a very fair criticism. Guy's a very good communicator. You got to give him credit for.

[Adam]

Sure.

[Pat]

It is possible that I'm a useful idiot, and I suspect that there are many entities around the world who would like to amplify my message? Surely you understand why a lot of people think at best you're trafficking in pretty anti Semitic tropes and at worst you're a card carrying anti Semite when they see that stuff. Mehdi said this. Mehdi said this.

[Adam]

Spoken from pot calling the kettle black.

[Pat]

Yeah. So anyways, you know, when you. When you hear this, Vinny, how do you process this? Tom, I'll come to you. How do you process this from a guy who actually was a professor at.

[Vinny]

Oh, my God.

[Pat]

Adjunct professor. Adjunct professor at Biola and Pepperdine. How do you process that? How. By the way, is it really a big deal if somebody calls himself a professor and they're not?

[Tom]

The way he was representing it? I think it is because it gives a. It gives yourself some gravitas. And by. As an adjunct, I never let them call me doctor. Doctor is a PhD doctorate. And so I always had them call me Tom because these were MBA students.

[Pat]

Wait, you like being called Biz Doc?

[Vinny]

He's a doctor.

[Tom]

He called me Biz Doc.

[Adam]

But he's not a doctor. But he's not a doctor.

[Pat]

PhD, but you never say Professor Ellsworth. Can we call you Professor Ellsworth?

[Tom]

You can call me whatever you want to call me.

[Pat]

Would that be legal term? We could call you Professor Ellsworth.

[Tom]

I would prefer not because I've got great respect for people that go and get a PhD.

[Pat]

All right, so guys, don't manect them and say, Professor Ellsworth, I got a question for you. But if you want to take a risk and manect him and say Dr. Ellsworth or Professor Ellsworth, he may respond back to you. Go ahead, Tom.

[Tom]

I may. It's 94.7% of time everybody gets an answer, right? So I think this guy was holding himself out with professor to create gravitas, and he's made these predictions. He was correct, and he kind of messed it up. Why did you do that? Why did you leave the door open? I just. I don't think you should have left the door open like that. He says, hi, this is Jang. Some people may call me Professor Jang. I'm a high school teacher, and here's what I think about the future. That's all I have to say. How do you. How can you just not say that? Because you leave the door open and the door's open.

[Vinny]

I concur with Professor E. But the one thing is, I did, pal. I was in the gym playing basketball and I sprained my ankle and Tom. Remember it was me and Adam. And Tom ran up and he was like, is it your ebitda? I'm like, it's not. That's not even a part of it.

[Adam]

But then he tried to give your ankle mouth to mouth.

[Vinny]

Yeah. Which was very, very weird. And he told me to take my pants off anyway. But no, my thing is this man. Like, it's funny because now this guy was all over my algorithm. It was just random. This professor just popped up and I mean, flooded. I never looked at one video. I never. And he just. He was everywhere. And then like you, Adam, you talk about peeling back the onion, and you always have to take a step back when you're getting it. Sometimes, like you said, great communicator. And he made some points where I

[Adam]

had to fact check.

[Vinny]

And I'm like, okay, let me see where this guy's at. But who are you actually working for?

[Pat]

Who.

[Vinny]

Why are you here? What are you doing? And what is your modem? What is your objective? And the fact that he's saying kind of like that he's like, well, yeah, I could be a useful idiot. He's telling you who he is. He's telling you exactly who he is. So you have to take him at face value.

[Adam]

I think what's going on in America today is we're starving for one thing, and that's the truth. And there's so much misinformation and disinformation online, and it's so easy to just pop on your camera and say, hey, Professor Jiang here. You know, don't worry about my credentials. And by the way, even if I did have credentials, how much respect do we have for professors these days, especially in these higher institutions of learning that are 13 to 1, more liberal than conservative in Columbia and Harvard and such? And now we're gonna put a stock in Professor. So then it takes a known anti American sentiment, Mehdi Hasan, to expose an alleged commie comrade who's allegedly China first to expose his metrics. What I know is that they're always going to eat each other because the communists and the Islamists, they'll team up and try to figure something out. But at the end, the Islamists are always going to take down the Communists, and then the good guys got to take out the bad guys. There's a similar theme here and here Today, gone tomorrow. Professor, quote, unquote J. Yeah, let's go

[Pat]

to the next one. So Chicago Bulls Jaden Ivey made a couple comments about his faith and how uncomfortable he was with the NBA being Pro LGBTQ Pride Month. All this other stuff. And he was actually a superstar. He was. He was a star playing with the Pistons on the back court with this other guy who's a. You know, some of the NBA players would say he's a superstar who's a backboard.

[Adam]

Cunningham.

[Pat]

Kate Cunningham.

[Adam]

Yeah, but this guy's on the Bulls.

[Pat]

No, no, he was on the Pistons in the backcourt. Average 17 points a game, 4 assist, 4 rebounds. This is why I tell you I follow this stuff closer than you, better than you had. Does this guy think, like, he's.

[Adam]

This guy's not a player.

[Pat]

Anyways, Jaden comes out, says the following when he's driving. And I like the fact that at least he put the phone on his lap because he didn't want to get a ticket.

[Vinny]

Exactly.

[Pat]

Because a camera's angle is focus on his nostrils, but try to focus on the message while he's doing this. He's simply sharing his faith. And the Chicago Bulls let him go simply because of this comment and this video that he made. Go ahead, Rob. That the world can proclaim lgbtq, Right?

[Adam]

They have. They have.

[Pat]

They proclaim Pride Month in the NBA. They proclaim it. They. They show it to the world.

[Adam]

They say, come, come, come join us for Pride.

[Pat]

For Pride Month to celebrate unrighteousness. They proclaim it. They proclaim it on the billboards. They proclaim it in the streets.

[Adam]

Unrighteousness.

[Pat]

So how is it that one can't speak righteous?

[Adam]

How is it one that. How.

[Pat]

How are they to say that?

[Vinny]

You.

[Pat]

You. Man, this man is crazy.

[Adam]

I'm not.

[Pat]

I'm not the J. I used to

[Adam]

be, but the OJ Is dead. I'm alive in Christ. You know, no matter what the basketball

[Pat]

setting is, you know, I'm born again. The Holy Spirit. You know, I've been saying about you, Powerful. Vinnie, your thoughts?

[Vinny]

I absolutely love that. So I think just Christians in the world. I hope you guys are waking up and seeing what. What's going on. The NBA can wave whatever flag that they want, but the moment. The moment he talks about Christ and says anything like that, you know what they actually said? They said he's detrimental to the team because he's speaking about Bible. And, guys, this isn't about inclusion. It's about submission. My question, is this, Tom, Detrimental to whom? Is it the locker room, the front office, the sponsors, or the image that they sell every June? Because the issue is that he said Pride Month celebrates unrighteousness. And then they say that instead of hiding behind corporate language, this is who he is. Okay? And as Christians out there, and we have another story coming later on about Christians and them getting slaughtered and murdered. This shouldn't surprise anybody. Jesus said what, Tom? The world would hate his followers because it hated him first. Okay, so what he's talking about, by the way, do you not see the Holy Spirit in this guy? Did you see that moment, Tom, where he goes, I'm not the same Jaden. That old Jaden is dead. He's talking about repentance, salvation in the kingdom of God and getting punished for it, mind you. He's not saying hate gay people. He's not saying any of that stuff, okay? And I guarantee you his attitude is love them, pray for them and hope that they could come to Christ. Because guess what? The end of the day you can be gay. Doesn't mean you have to practice in that lifestyle, okay? Watching porn, giving into just sex and doing all that stuff. You don't have to live that life. You're supposed to try to change. I'm not saying don't be gay, but you don't have to practice in it. And I feel for these people, Pat, and I pray for them, I swear to you.

[Pat]

Are you good? No, Vinny, the way you went into.

[Vinny]

I'm good. I'm saying you have to pray for them.

[Pat]

Vinny.

[Vinny]

Yes?

[Adam]

Why are you gay?

[Vinny]

I'm trying to be serious. And by the way, the word pride in this whole thing matters as well. Okay, and what does the Bible say, Tom, about pride? Pride comes before the fall. Before the fall, okay? It's not just a phrase, it's scripture. So when an entire league turns into a freaking banner that he can't say what he wants to say? I think it's ridiculous. And I think the bigger message is it's not about basketball. It's a reminder that if you stand for Christ and the way his teachings and the scripture public, this is what's going to happen to you. Plain and simple.

[Adam]

Adam, look, I think this was a stupid decision on his part. And I'll say, why do I agree with him on what he said? I actually do. I don't like that there's this much gay pride everywhere you go. There's LGBT everywhere you go. I don't like that there's how many different holidays that celebrate the Gay Uncle Day and the Furry Day and it was just a trans visibility day? There's no doubt that there's a problem with all this. But pick and choose your spots, my friend. You've been in the league how long Three years, four years, which means what? You're about to come up on your next contract, which is potentially your next big deal. So if you're the agent, you're the advisor, you're the manager, you say, hey, listen, buddy, before you start taking a stance on these things that you're not known for, this isn't like a reverend or a pastor or a rabbi coming out and saying, you're an NBA player, buddy. Stay in your lane. Keep your beliefs private. And by the way, you can have any belief you want, but you're about 12 months away from signing a $100 million deal. Now you got zero. So this is basically something that even

[Pat]

give him more credibility.

[Vinny]

I was just going to say, you

[Adam]

know, you know, I'm not questioning his belief, right?

[Pat]

Because, you know, sometimes you'll hear testimonies and, hey, at a bad place in your life, you give your life to Christ. But imagine you're at a great place in your life and you just made it, got $100 million coming your way, and you do it then. Well, I mean, it's your position as a very logical, reasonable agent. Positions to him is like, no, this is my faith. And Rob, what is this clip that you have here? Is this.

[Tom]

This is him yesterday, I believe it was yesterday. Talking about the backlash that he's received from his family and his wife.

[Pat]

Let's play this, and I'm going to come to you. Go for it. Those who are around me, those are my family members. Oh, he says his own wife is not texting him because of what I spoke the truth. Saying that I'm losing my mind, saying that I'm crazy. These are my own family members, my blood, man.

[Adam]

He's psycho.

[Pat]

He's this, he's that. Those are my own household. That's why my wife in here, and she not even texting me. Okay, Adam, keep going.

[Adam]

So, look, my advice is get off the Internet, buddy, because I understand if you just gave your life to Christ. That's amazing. You're excited. You want to share it the world. That's amazing. Of course. But not every news needs to be shared. You just. You started off the podcast that basically said, hey, listen, I'm going to call you out publicly.

[Vinny]

Why?

[Adam]

Because you represent me and you represent the brand, and I hear that. But this guy represents more than himself. He represents the Chicago Bulls, he represents the NBA, and he represents the overall league, and he's going rogue and basically saying, my beliefs, what I believe is more important than my team, my teammates, the league that I stand for, and the logo, by the way, I agree with some of the stuff you're staying, but time and place, because if we're going to talk about representing the brand, representing the league, you're representing the Chicago Bulls. You just went from the goat of MJ to now. Your. Your brand is being known as gay bashing. I'm not saying that he's doing that, but that's what your brand is known for.

[Vinny]

Adam. He.

[Adam]

Horrible time, Adam, but with the right.

[Vinny]

You know what you said, the news that it should never be shared. He is sharing the word of Jesus Christ, and I commend him. And I love that you said that, Pat. In a moment where he has everything, but he is touched by the Holy Spirit. And I. Dude, I. I can't give him enough credit for having the gall to do. Adam. Because you know what? If you're in the league and for a month, they're the gay flag, the representative, it's all over the place. You're in on it. And let's. Pride Month, lgbtq, they're pushing that T stuff that you always talk about on children. He doesn't want to be any part of it. And if you think about Adam, he's not budging. To hell with the timing, his morals and his principles. And, you know, you said, well, who's he making happy? If Jesus Christ is happy, you win. I don't care about your wife. I don't care about your family. I don't care about his boys going, yo, dog, we about to come up.

[Adam]

No, no, Adam, let me flip it

[Vinny]

on you, but let me finish. Adam. And I love you. I know you're not a Christian. I'm telling you right now, I'm the original. The one person, the one being that is happy about this guy, besides everybody else, is the man upstairs.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Vinny]

By the way, you don't think he's already rich, do you not think. Hold on.

[Adam]

He's not.

[Vinny]

Three years he's been in the league. He doesn't have any money.

[Adam]

Not major money.

[Pat]

He's made already $26 million. And the Pistons owe him another 10 to $11 million guaranteed for your $40 million. You're right about the hundred million, but he's making a different point.

[Adam]

But let me make a point to

[Vinny]

you, Adam, as a. As a. I'm telling you right now, Adam, something changed in my life the moment. The moment it wasn't about me and the money and the girls and everything. Christ, you're on a completely different path. I see it in his face. I see me and him and he doesn't care. 20 mil, Adam? I think he'd be happy with $100,000. He's been touched and it's over and. Hold on, let me ask you and I'll let you go. You not think another team's going to pick him up? The NBA is done with him. The Bulls waived it.

[Adam]

I think he's finished.

[Vinny]

I think he's going to be great for the rest of his life.

[Adam]

Go ahead.

[Pat]

So you think another team's going to pick him up?

[Vinny]

I don't see this being.

[Pat]

I think another team's going to pick him up.

[Adam]

No.

[Pat]

Let me ask you. Let me ask you a question. Do you think Adam Silver likes what he said?

[Vinny]

Adam? Oh, absolutely not.

[Pat]

Okay. What happened to the Orlando Magic player Jonathan Isaac? Who is he with today?

[Adam]

Jonathan, he's still with Orlando Magic. He gets a little mid flaming time, but he.

[Pat]

So guess where he could go. He could go to Orlando Magic. Do you know why? Isaac because he can go to Orlando Magic. He can go to Orlando Magic because Orlando Magic owner is the DeVos family. The DeVos family. Betsy DeVos the DeVos family. Devout, devout Christian. Give to the biggest foundations. I think he can potentially end up with a the Magic.

[Tom]

Tom, look, you don't have to like this and I'm going to say something here. People probably aren't going to whatever like. And that is, you know, he has this deep faith that he's sharing on a Christian standpoint. I find it amazing that he was boldly sharing and I understand his feeling, his faith, everything that goes with it. Totally understand it. The reality in America is and I look back at. Do you remember there's a Marine named Jacoby Williamson and he got fired because he said another racist man, Charlie Kirk, was popped. The reason he got fired is popped. Made it sound like he was celebrating his death. But if he was to say I found Charlie to be racist, a lot of people are upset by it. Who knows what happened here. If he says it like that. He's still employed. However, he was a recruiter and he said popped like he was happy about it. And what the NBA the way it works is. Free speech has consequences. You're guaranteed free speech under the Constitution, but you're not guaranteed free speech without consequences in certain circumstances. In terms of employment, you're only guaranteed that you're not going to be fired because of your race, religion, nation of origin or sexual orientation or other discriminatory factors who you are. But if you say something that they think your employer thinks is offensive or Your employer thinks is against their foundations, you can expect consequences. And the league feels this way. We push Pride Month. We do these things. So you need, if you're gonna play here, this is who we are. Don't be critical. Don't disparage the league. And unfortunately, he, in his free speech, the consequences is that he loses his job. I hate that he did. I'm sad that he did. But this is the way free speech works in America. I want to see Adam Silver do the same thing. If there's a Muslim player that says something about Christianity or Christian players, I want to see Adam Silver. I want to see him do the same thing. But right now, what this guy did, he exercised free speech. I hate the consequence. But this is the consequence. Because the league says we own the teams. You're an employee of the team.

[Pat]

I want to move on, guys. I want to move on with this. So give your.

[Adam]

I just want to say I agree with Tom on this one.

[Pat]

So let's move on with this. Let's move on with this. Because the reality of it is we've been on this thing for 12 minutes. I want to go to the next one. All right, let's go to Tiger Woods. Okay, Another sports story. So Tiger woods video comes out. Back to the mugshot stuff. At first when it happened, I was like, are people playing jokes with Tiger Woods? What's going on here? Why are they doing this? But story comes out. Rob, do you have that story here? Can you tell me. Okay, is this the Tiger Woods?

[Adam]

Yes.

[Tom]

This is a report on his accident and what he was found in possession of.

[Pat]

Okay, go for it.

[Vinny]

Deputies with the Martin County Florida Sheriff's Office reported observing several signs. Deputies with the Martin County, Florida Sheriff's Office reported observing several signs of impairment at the crash scene involving Tiger woods, noting that the golf legend was sweating profusely and that his movements appeared lethargic and slow. Again, that according to an arrest affidavit obtained today by Fox News Digital, Law enforcement also found two white pills inside of woods left side pant pocket, later identified as hydrocodone, which as you may know, is a prescription opioid for pain relief. Meantime, woods good friend President Trump continues to show his support for the five time Masters Championship. The two men spoke Friday after the crash, the President telling the New York Post that Tiger lives a life of pain. He has a lot of pain. He's an amazing guy, an amazing athlete. He does have pain. Woods, for his part, told law enforcement prior to the field sobriety test that he'd undergone seven back surgeries and over 20 operations on his leg. Adding that, yes, I take a few prescription medications. As for what happens next, next,

[Adam]

I

[Tom]

think probably they're going to work out some sort of disposition that when you

[Pat]

see that, say you hate here. You hate seeing this happen to him. You know, I don't know if you've ever seen the documentary they did, the three part documentary on him or two part documentary on him. The guy's story is a fascinating story. Is this him afterwards, Rob, or is

[Tom]

this literally four days before the accident

[Adam]

where he talks about wanting to get back to playing?

[Pat]

Yeah, he wanted to get into the Masters. Yeah. And he says, trust me, I'm trying to. My body's not recovering. I'm no longer in my 20s. I'm just trying really hard. I'd love to be it. I'm gonna be there. Whether I play, I don't play. I saw that. And then apparently a lot of his people around him that are loving, he just said, I'm stepping away because of DUI arrest that took place with him. He made that comment, I believe, earlier yesterday that he's stepping away from the game with what happened. Tom, where are you at with this with Tiger Woods? How do you process?

[Tom]

I'm very sad. You know, Kim and I have followed him in golf for so long. This the story, just like everybody else has done. And I saw him. Kim and I were at the 2008 U.S. open, and we followed him and Rocco mediate for a day and a half, and we saw the pain he was in at that time when his knee needed surgery. But he wins the U.S. open at Torrey Pines on that kind of a tough course in pain. We saw him, we could hear him grunt. He was right there. And so, you know, that he had that. And then what bothers me most is that if after all of these things to the body, he's taken opioids and now he has like an addiction that happens to a lot of people. Rush Limbaugh said he got an addiction after. What was it, back surgery or something that he said he started taking the opioids. And he said, they caught up with me and my body had.

[Pat]

Jordan Peterson went through it.

[Tom]

That's exactly right. These are not junkies behind 7 11. These are professional people that have pain. And the drug of choice they're given as these opioids. And if they're not careful, the body reacts with an addiction and a reliance on it. And I just hate this now. I don't know what he was feeling when he got in the car or whatever like that. They said he was driving fast. We've all seen all the facts on that. But it saddens me that this once great athlete now has got a lot of pain. And, you know, and I'm glad he's just saying straight up, hey, I gotta work on this and I gotta go away. But that doesn't sound to me like an alcoholic wife beater giving a speech in the living room. Sounds like a guy that says, these pills that are helping me, I gotta go do something else.

[Pat]

There's even stories out there that apparently Vanessa Trump told Tiger she won't wait around like Ellen if he continues with this direction. And he truly wants to make a change. And. And Don Jr. S a little bit worried because his kids are around. Thank God, you know, Vanessa wasn't in the car. Neither was their kids. So the conversations there, these are valid things. You know? You know, when you have a friend or somebody, a family member you love, who's truly having a hard time with something, and the addiction, and everybody's trying to help this person out, but it's like, at the end of the day, the only person I can do it is themselves.

[Vinny]

Yep.

[Pat]

You can go to as many rehab places and they'll always tell you the same thing. We can't make him quit. It has to be him. Adam, your thoughts on this?

[Adam]

I feel bad for Tiger, but you reap what you. So I'm not a golf guy. So the people that are the big golf people, the people that love Tiger, probably not gonna like what I'm about to say, but, dude, just retire. Because you're doing nothing but ruining your legacy and ruining your brand. What does MJ do these days? Cuz the reason I bring up mj, because he's right behind Vinny, is because we're talking goats. You've interviewed many goats, Pat.

[Tom]

Right.

[Adam]

Why does Trump not. Sorry, Trump. Why does MJ not do interviews? Why does he not do podcasts?

[Pat]

Why does he do it more lately?

[Adam]

But we started to. Yeah, he did the last dance because he's not trying to ruin the legacy that he created. Tiger Wolf with Tiger Wolf. Tiger woods with every swing, with every time he gets in a car, with every time he goes onto the course. He's not helping his legacy. You think people care if he wins another match or wins another round or shoots a par or birdie? People don't care. You've already solidified your legacy. All you're doing is tarnishing at this point. You know, what's the Quote that I always talk about with Jack Bogle, the guy that created Vanguard.

[Pat]

Yep.

[Adam]

He said, when I die, I have one wish, for my legacy to stay intact. And Tiger with every swing is ruining his legacy. Dude, why don't you have a driver? Is this your first time you've had a car incident or is this the fifth time we've seen this happen with cheating on your wife when she's smashing in the car window with womanizing and basically running away from police, basically dealing with DUIs getting stopped. Do you know the speed limit on the street that he was going? I know this street. It's up in Jupiter. 20 miles per hour. How the hell does your car end up flipped on a 20 mile per hour street? That means you are so messed up, so bloodshot, so gone and nobody can tell you what to do. Pat, you know, always telling you, I want Pat to drive. I don't want Pat to drive. I need to drive. He needs a driver. You don't even drink, you don't take pills, much less this guy. This guy been driving a lot less.

[Pat]

And I like driving.

[Adam]

Looking great.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

This guy is the anti MJ and he's ruining his legacy and he's done so much for the game. Golf.

[Pat]

I have a very good.

[Adam]

He's not helping at all right now.

[Pat]

All your feedback, you said spot on fair. It's good feedback. But let me tell you when something happened this weekend. Tom is aware what happened this weekend. When you're somebody that is a high intense competitor driver. You know, Jordan just did an interview with this lady. Who's this interview? African American lady who's a very well known interviewer. I don't know what her name is. Actually a very good interview. Michael Jordan or Jordan Peterson? Michael Jordan with her. She just. He just did an interview. Type in interview, Rob interview. And he asked him a question, says, are you still competitive? He says, yes. He says, still. She says, still at 63 years old. Yes. She says, why? He says, honestly, at this point, the only thing I can say is I think I'm cursed. So the curse of competitors is they want that next high, that next Masters, that next. You know what? Tiger did stuff that we've never seen before. But I think he can't let go then that's not an easy thing to do. Vinnie.

[Vinny]

I agree, like think about winning at that level. And he's still trying. And I'm going to be honest with you, Tom, and I know you're going to agree because of Tiger woods, an entire generation started every race, started going Wait, what's. What the hell? What's going on? Adam? I love golf because of Tiger woods, and I followed him for his entire career. Some of those shots where he did from, like, the side. Unbelievable. Okay? Unbelievable. But I think it's, you know, like, this is a huge. I know he's had a couple. This is a huge wake up call. God forbid, bro. God forbid, Adam, besides the kids in the car and everything, which I'm pretty sure they would have been, had a seat belt, you know, hopefully. But what if somebody was just walking in the street?

[Adam]

There were kids in the car.

[Vinny]

No, no, I'm saying if they were, I'm pretty sure they would have seat belts, but. And again, God forbid, Adam, he hit somebody. He's one of my favorites. If he killed somebody, imagine what that is. So this, to me, is that, like, Adam, sometimes people need a couple. I'm saying from experience, you need this to be like, hey, listen, this is it. And number one, who's his Pat? Who's talking to him?

[Pat]

I was at a poker tournament with him and Russell Westbrook and Phil Hellmuth. This was like a celebrity poker thing six years ago, seven years. I don't know what it was. And I talked to Tiger and I looked at him. I'm like, this guy's having a hard time. Yeah, you could tell he's slurring all this other stuff. Anyways, last one before we wrap up. Rob, if you want to.

[Adam]

Can I give you a shout out real quick? And I. Tiger, can I give you a little advice? Tiger, if you ever see this. What do you always talk about, Pat? Reinventing yourself? The problem with Tiger, he's never reinvented himself.

[Pat]

Are you kidding me, dude? He's reinventing himself. So you're saying maybe he hasn't in the last 10 years.

[Tom]

Oh, my gosh.

[Adam]

That's the time that it matters. I get that right now. In 10 years, he has not reinvented himself. You talked about Jordan. Give shout out to Jordan. Jordan's still competitive. He's still winning. But what is he winning in nascar? He's in nascar.

[Vinny]

He just won again. They just won again.

[Adam]

Jordan's winning in nascar. He's not back on the court saying, I still got it at 60, bro. Tiger, hang him up, dude. Create something that solidifies your legacy does not ruin your life.

[Pat]

I want to get to the last one here, and I want to wrap up early today. Rob, I saw a clip with Miley Cyrus. If you want to play this clip, it's a very good clip for people to watch. Go for it, Rob. Miley Cyrus talks about how embarrassed she is on some of the stuff she did that she embarrassed her family. Watch this.

[Vinny]

Everything because of the choices I was making professionally. I was engaged at the time. That didn't work out because I was sharing a part of myself that men wanted to be saved for them only. And the fact that I would pose nude or dance in very little clothes or show my body was making them feel like I was taking something away that was meant to be for them. It was really hard for me to go home and see my dad and, like, look him in the eyes and not feel super embarrassed. Seeing my grandparents were just mortifying. There was even a time where my brother and sister didn't want to go to school because of how humiliated they were to be related to me. I lost everything because of the choices I was making professionally.

[Pat]

Isn't that freaking powerful? I didn't want to tell you guys, I'm going to play this.

[Vinny]

That's a. That's. I mean, not only is that amazing, I was one of those people. I'll be honest, that this. Back. This is years, years, years ago. I would judge her. I'd be like, you were Hannah Montana. I would go on to the studio set. My friend, my really good friend, I won't even say her name. She was like, wardrobe and everything for Hannah Montana. She signed something right for my niece to have pass Hannah Montana. And then she shifted and it was thong and grabbing her stuff. And I was like, I was back then. And it's not a Christian thing, but I wasn't all in on Christianity. I was judging her. But for her to have that moment where it's like, oh, my goodness, what. What happened? That's recreating yourself. That's growing as a human being. That. That's freaking amazing and good for her, but. And not a lot of people come to that moment, Tom, where they're like, oh, my God, what? Is that me? Is that what I was doing? I've been there. I saw myself on camera. I'm like, oh, my God, am I drunk? And that's. Those are the wake up calls that you need to see.

[Tom]

Reconciliation is one of the most beautiful things on this planet. And Jesus Christ gives us the opportunity to reconcile with him in our eternity. And I hope this shoes reconcile the family. We've all seen all the things. I remember seeing an interview Pat with Billy Ray Cyrus. And he was emotional because he was very hurt because he wondered if his little girl, she was ever gonna maybe get it together. And come back in relationship. And I hope that this is a sign that this reconciliation complete.

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Pat]

And she was wearing a very covered shirt. I don't know.

[Vinny]

Beautiful. I love it.

[Adam]

Why did you want to play this? Just so I'm curious.

[Pat]

I think there's a lot of women that need to be inspired by people like this to say, hey, I showed everything and I became one of the most famous people in the world. And I was wrong. I think that's powerful.

[Adam]

I think a lot of people need to go through it themselves before they listen to people's advice. Like you always say, more is caught than taught. Right. I think there's going to be girls that see this. There's a lot of girls on OnlyFans. There's a lot of girls showing their thongs and doing everything. And I understand Instagram. And until life smacks him in the face. Until a guy breaks up with them because he. Because he cares about their past more than the. More than their future more than their past. I think all. I think there's a ton of women that need to receive this message. But a lot of times it's going to be too late. By the way, same for men. A lot of men need to go through things and you say, don't do this, don't do this. Some people need to put their hand on the stove before they learn the lesson. That's my opinion.

[Pat]

All I want to say is, good for you, Miley. I hope you go through this mindset. You can really impact many people's lives. Gang, great to be with you guys. We will do it again on Tomorrow. We have Richard Werner to talk about the economy every time he comes. It's very, very interesting what he asks us. He can't wait to be with you guys. And then we'll be back again on Friday. God bless everybody. Bye bye. Bye bye.