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Pat
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Tommy Lauren
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Pat
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Tommy Lauren
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Pat
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Adam
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Pat
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Tommy Lauren
Good to be here.
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Pat
Good to have you on.
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Tommy Lauren
Do I stick out? Do I stand out in the group with the pink?
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Pat
Maybe a little bit. You know, next to Vinnie with the black valuetainment shirt and Tom excited about the baseball. What is it? Not trade deadline deadline today.
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Adam
MLB trade deadline, 6:00pm it's gonna be intense.
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Pat
So we have a Yank. We have Yankees fans, we have Dodgers and we have Mets.
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Tommy Lauren
Yeah.
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Pat
And you got, you got to be committed to the Mets and you guys got the money. So it's going to be.
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Vinnie
And the Marlins pbd.
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Pat
I don't know if you're Marlins guy. I don't know. I don't know. Are you. But yeah, we got a lot of time to get through. We got a lot of stories to get through. And Tommy, one of the things with you when the first time I heard you, we were friends with Jessica Gross, who was a friend of yours and she used to work with us many, many years ago. I want to say I could have.
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Tommy Lauren
Been eight years ago before she worked with you. She executive produced my show on the Blaze.
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Pat
Okay.
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Tommy Lauren
I trained her or she trained me. I don't know. One of both.
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Pat
One of the two.
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Tommy Lauren
And then I sent her your way and.
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Pat
But what year was that? Do you remember when that was?
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Tommy Lauren
I was like 2017.
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Pat
2017. My God, 2017. Because all she would do is Tommy, Lauren, Tommy Lauren. Tommy Lauren, Tommy. Lauren, Tommy. I'm like, buddy, we got it. She's great. We see her firing off all over.
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Adam
The place and bringing cookies. She was like this master cookie maker.
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Pat
She was. Yeah, she was. And she had a. She had an interesting sense of humor, but she was, she was. She had a very unique sense of humor. I don't need to talk about it here. She just had a sense of me. I think you would agree with that.
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Tommy Lauren
Yes.
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Pat
Yeah.
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Tommy Lauren
She still has it, by the way. By the way. And she's still alive. I feel like we're talking about her in memorial.
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Pat
She's young.
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Vinnie
She's.
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Pat
She's definitely young. She's definitely around. Wherever you are, Jessica, shout out to you.
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Vinnie
She's single.
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Tommy Lauren
She is actually.
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Pat
Adam.
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Vinnie
I'm gay.
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Pat
Leave her alone. Okay, gang stories to get through today. All right, so new poll shows astonishing outcome. Ready? This is kind of crazy. In fantasy 2028 matchup between Obama and Trump. What? Two, two term presidents against each other. You should see what the poll says on who wins. And it's by big lead on who wins now. Who knows if it's true or not. But it is what it is. It's their poll. Trump says Wall Street Journal wants to settle defamation lawsuit. Overwhelming good cause exists to expedite. Trump wants to put Rupert Murdoch under oath right away after firing. Massive. Filing massive defamation lawsuit against the WSJ Wall Street Journal over the Epstein report. The letter that they said they found. It's going to be nasty. This is supposed to be a friend. He was just at the White House a few months ago and the President was speaking very highly of him. Complimentary. Trump seriously considering a pardon for his old friend friend Diddy. That's a funny one right there. Trump trade deal for the world will be done by Friday, but China will take longer. That's the only one I'm interested in. That's what Lutnick says. Young man failed to name any masculine Dem leaders not named Obama. So they don't view like Tim Waltz as a masculine. You don't think Tim Waltz is masculine? Tough guy, you know, plays video games.
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Vinnie
Tampon Tim.
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Pat
Yeah. Let me give him a little bit of a masculinity.
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Vinnie
Real man.
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Pat
The Fed holds rates steady for the fifth time this year. But some officials think it's the wrong call. Powell under siege as Fed plans to stand pat on rate cuts and investment. Warsh and Hassett are leading contenders to get the Fed chair job. A lot of people are watching Trump and Powell. They're like, oh, he's going to have to lower the rates. He's going to have to do this with the 3.1 billion. I think Powell is now just saying, screw you.
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Producer
What are you going to do about it?
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Pat
I'm not doing nothing about it, but we'll see.
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Producer
Especially after you slap me in the back. There's more.
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Pat
You think there's more to it? Tom's got more to it?
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Adam
I think so. And Trump's. Trump's on Caps lock. Here we go.
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Pat
This next story is Tom's favorite story. It's, you know, how who just paid $200 million? Columbia paid $200 million.
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Adam
Columbia paid $200 million.
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Pat
Now Harvard is apparently supposed to pay half a billion dollars, but check this out. The story is because UCLA wasn't that, you know, discriminatory, they're only gonna have to pay six and a half million dollars or some small. Whatever the number is. Right? They play nice.
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Adam
And Brown just paid 50. 50. Ivy League bingo. Card of fines.
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Pat
Yeah, but Harvard, half a billion, I mean, that's pretty solid. Spotify drops 11% for the worst day in two years on weak guidance. Starbucks shock earnings. And latest report, the CEO confirms plan to close up to 90 locations by the end of 2026. ESPN done with Shannon Sharpe's deal after bombshell $50 million rape lawsuit. Colbert's left wing show became therapy session for liberal study. You have to see how many conservatives he had on versus liberals. And the number is maybe shocking, maybe not to some people. Okay. And even the conservative that he had on, some say, I don't even know if that person is conservative, but we'll tell you who that person is. Your body starts aging faster at this inflection point. It's easier than you think. Adam's worried about it because we're a couple years away from this age that the story talks about. Before you know it, and we're just like, really? He was here last night crying. I'm like, it's going to be okay. You're going to be fine. But we'll get over it. We'll get over it. Meta beats Q2 expectations. Stock jumps better than anticipating Q3 outlook Fed pal. We'll talk about that one. And then Microsoft climbs to $4 trillion company and after hours trading on blowout earnings, Senate vote against resolution to block arms sales to Israel even as it continues to starve Gaza. And then we got a couple other stories here at the bottom that hopefully we may get into. Yeah, brown is a 50 million. We'll do that. All right, before we get started, gang polo, you Were asking about the latest polo shirts that are coming up. It took us a few months to get them. They're finally in. I wore one of these. Everybody was asking, where did you get these Valutema polo shirts? They're right there. We got them in brown, black, white, gray, and another white. There's a bunch of them on here for those because it's hot. Yesterday we flew in from Orlando. We're on a flight, flying back on his private jet. And we're asking the pilot, hey, can you turn on the ac? I can't turn on the ac. Mario makes the mistake of asking. The guy says, I heard this is a. This is a mock. What did he ask him?
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Producer
He said, does it go mock? And the guy was like, yeah, it goes Mach 1.5.
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Pat
I was like, here we go, 1.1. And then next, you know, we get on the jet, and this guy goes. He starts doing all this stuff, showing off. I'm like, what is this guy doing? On the way back, we're flying low. He says, I can't turn on the academy. I get off the plane.
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Producer
Water all over you.
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Pat
I get off the plane, my entire shirt is flipping, you know, drenched. And this is why Tommy just announced she's moving to Florida, because she loved the humidity here. But for some of you guys that are in the heat, you want to wear a polo shirt and have the valuetainment gear on, Go place your order@vtmerch.com we did not order too many of these, but if you want to get them, go to vtmerch.com place your order. So support them. We were at Orlando at the Gaylord event. Cannot wait to see all of you guys at the vault conference. FYI, for those of you guys that are wondering if I was serious, she's now moving to Florida. She loves Nashville. That was a joke, folks. Don't write about it. All right? Okay, so sneezing on the truth. Let's get into which story, Tommy? Let's pick a story here to get into. Let's go into Harvard story. How about that? So Harvard reportedly willing to surrender in war with Trump administration even if it cost a half a billion dollars. Rob, I think you got a video on this one, if you want to pull it up to go to it. This is an interesting story, Rob, is this him talking about it?
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Vinnie
Yes, sir.
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Pat
Okay, go for it.
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Tommy Lauren
Harvard is reportedly willing to settle with.
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Pat
You for $500 million.
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Tommy Lauren
$500 million.
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Pat
Is that enough?
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Adam
Well, it's a lot of money.
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Pat
It's a lot of money. We're negotiating with Arvid now. They would like to settle. So we'll see what happens. Okay, that's a pretty fast answer, but let me read the one sentence here. Negotiations are ongoing with Harvard reluctant to pay the federal government directly. And the potential deal may include a settlement in the current court dispute over funding cuts exceeding $2 billion. And I keep in my. Columbia University already paid $200 million. There's a couple other schools. Brown, I think, is going through a $50 million deal with administration. UCLA settled for only $6.13 million, but Harvard a half a billion. Tommy, what do you think?
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Tommy Lauren
Why do you think not about the money, first of all? And we would not be in this situation at all if you could just protect your Jewish students. It's really not that hard. And they fought tooth and nail under a former president, President Otto Penn. I don't think that they felt the pressure and the heat. President Trump comes into office, he says, I'm not going to deal with this anymore. I'm going to hold your feet to the fire. It's not about the money, it the settlement. It's about the message that this sends to the Ivy League schools. You will not be allowed to bully and harass Jewish students. They will not be kept from their classes that they're paying for. They will not be intimidated. Not about the money, it's about the message. But I think the fact that President Trump has held strong on this, it's pretty incredible because they keep calling this man Hitler and a Nazi. But I can't think of many other world leaders that have stood up for Jewish students and Jewish people quite like this current president.
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Pat
Yeah, I mean, the part that the question I got is why is Harvard half, Columbia 200, Brown 50, and UCLA 6.1. It's almost as if UCLA is being seemed like, dude, you're a Nobody, just pay 6.1. Or were they easier to deal with? Tom, what do you know about the story?
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Adam
Well, UCLA's suit came from a group that didn't get federal support. So this was an end. I believe that's correct. This is an independent group that came and said, hey, you know, this, this anti Zionist stuff and the things you were doing on here, we feel some. And so UCLA is making a vast settlement with an independent group. Now, if that settlement gets the attention of the White House, which I imagine it would, there could be a federal round to this fight. But that's what's going on with ucla. But you know what's really interesting about this? There are 7,000 undergrad students at Harvard, I think it's 7,089. And number one, number two, the tuition at Harvard's about $86,000 all in. You know, dorm tuition, the whole bit. But with the financial aid that goes out there comes out to 55,000 a student. What is 7,000 students times 55,000?
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Vinnie
Don't do this.
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Producer
To $385 million.
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Adam
My gosh, Vinny, that's correct. So they could have taken.
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Pat
Cheated.
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Adam
They could have taken the $500 million and just told all their students, guess what? We're sorry about what happened. Nobody pays tuition this year. So it is about the message. I agree with Tommy. It is not about the money. But we need to take a look at what really the scope of money also is here. It's also the public embarrassment because to the average person, holy crap, half a billion dollars. They don't know that Harvard's got, like, a $53 billion endowment right now. I think it's crossed over 53. The average person doesn't know that. But the headline is, Trump beat Harvard. Harvard paid up. And that is, I think, the strong message here that just like the trade, one at a time, he's getting them, and now the Ivy League. One at a time, he's getting them.
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Pat
Rob, can you find out and Tommy, I want to come to you. Rob, can you find out what the endowment is for ucla, Harvard, Columbia, and what it is for Brown? Go ahead. Tommy, you wanted to say something?
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Tommy Lauren
Yeah, I do, because I. I think not only is this a message being sent, I think the message for young, especially young, Jewish students and their family, this is also an incredibly strong message. A settlement's great. An acknowledgement is great. But I'll tell you, a lot of these young Jewish students, they're not going to the Ivy League in the Northeast anymore. I'll tell you where they're going. They're going to Tennessee, they're going to Alabama, they're going to Mississippi, they're going to Florida, they're going to SEC schools and some others because they don't want to be harassed and they want to go to school, and they don't want to have protests on their campus. Another encampment when these nerds are too socially awkward and unaware to actually enjoy college. They'd rather be out protesting and waving Hamas flags. They want to go to Alabama. They want to rush a fraternity or a sorority. They want to have a college experience. So it's going to take a lot more from Harvard and the rest of these Ivy Leagues than just a settlement. Or even just an apology. They're going to have to change the culture on campus because you're going to see people flee into better schools with more attractive people with a better college experience. And that happens in the South.
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Vinnie
I want to go back to college now.
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Pat
Are we seeing that? Are we?
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Adam
Yes, we are. And I'll tell you where we're seeing it. And help me out. I'm. I'm pulling something out of the hard drive here for. With Alabama. There was a protest that was happening on campus in Alabama, but the crowd of basically fraternity brothers holding beer.
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Vinnie
North Carolina.
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Tommy Lauren
North Carolina.
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Adam
North Carolina, yeah. Where they came out there and the crowd acc.
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Vinnie
It's no big deal.
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Adam
The crowd of students that didn't want any of this crap was quickly larger than the protesters. And the campus police formed a line that was basically preventing the students from enforcing physical response to the protest. And the campus police said, hey, your permit to demonstrate is over at sunset, which is seven o' clock, and we're off shift and going home. I think you should pack up and go. Because if we leave and you're still here, we this rowdy group that's also drinking beers over there, they're going to kick your ass. And the protesters. And I believe I'm getting the essence of the story straight, am I not?
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Tommy Lauren
Part partly. And then also you've got these frat brothers who are not gonna let that American flag touch the ground. When you have these feral Hamas supporters that are trying to rip down the American flag.
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Adam
Yeah, they were the flag defenders.
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Tommy Lauren
It was denigrate our country and denigrate Israel. And you've got these frat bros at UNC that are like, no, we're not letting this flag touch the ground. You're not going to do anything to this flag. You're not going to burn this flag. And that's what you get when you go to SEC schools or similar type schools in the south, in Florida, in a few other places, you're not going to have these people put up with this crap.
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Vinnie
To me, that's the most important thing. Okay, we see what's going on with the Jews in Israel and all this stuff like that, but at the end of the day, this comes down to do you love America or not? Because the people that are waving the Palestinian flags, the people that are basically doing these encampments, they don't love America. I mean, we can. The Jews and, and everything that's going on here with these settlements, Harvard allegedly maybe having to have to pay a half a billion dollars all these Other fines, okay? The Jews are canary in a coal mine. The reality is these students that go to Harvard, Columbia, Cornell, the list goes on. They don't love America. You know, you tell the story about you went to Harvard for the business planning event there or whatever it was, and this was in 2016 with Trump.
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Pat
Trump, Hillary, because you'd be in jail.
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Vinnie
Zero people.
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Pat
Not one person rooted for Trump, Trump out of 300 people.
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Vinnie
Okay, so 1, 2, 5, 10, 0. The end of the day, these schools are indoctrination camps to just hate America.
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Adam
Thank you.
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Vinnie
The trickle down effect is they don't love Israel or the Jews.
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Producer
But let me ask you guys a question. What about the people that are funding? Because to me, none of that crap is organic. None of it happens on its own. What about the NGOs, what about the open society, the George sources who are funding to make this happen? Because I don't believe these cats just woke up and they're like, let's put on some keffiyahs and go out there and say, we hate Israel, we hate Jews. That shit's all planned. Just like every big ass event that happens in the United States from BLM to all these, all these things to cause this division of. Are they ever going to get freaking held accountable? Is George Soros ever going to get held accountable for all the damage and destruction that he does in this country?
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Pat
Those are two different things. I think these are. You got to isolate two issues.
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Producer
But is he praying for these people?
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Pat
Well, no, you got to isolate those two issues and address. Those are two separate things.
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Vinnie
I agree.
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Pat
But to think about the issue for me is the following. To me, I'm also not from over protecting a community more than another community. Let me explain to you what makes me uncomfortable with that. The last five years, they overprotected the LGBTQ community. What do you mean overprotect them? I understand if you're protecting, totally get it. But overprotecting that you can't say certain things and videos were being canceled and we went back to reality. Overprotecting African Americans, overprotecting, you know, whites overprotecting Jews, overprotecting whatever minority community may be. Protect everybody, be fair with everybody, allow the merit base to be there. Don't fall for the mob. The mob is going to convince you that they're bigger than they are. You were afraid of the mob. You look like a clown when you were not willing to stand up to them. And that's what makes these institutions look bad. I did a quick math. If you look at the amount of money that they paid based on how much money they have in their endowments. Who do you think paid the most based on the fine? Don't look there.
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Producer
Out of all the Ivy Leagues, you cheated.
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Pat
Tom. Tom can't play. Out of all the Ivy Leagues, out of all the. All the schools, ucla, Brown, Brown, Columbia, Harvard. Who do you think paid the biggest fine based on their number, the fine to the dollar amount? I would.
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Vinnie
I would guess Colombia.
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Pat
Yeah, Columbia paid the biggest fine, okay. 1.5% of their endowment. Number two is Harvard, 1%. Number three is Brown. 0.8%. UCLA paid 0.02%. Okay, so UCLA was like, I don't even know what happened. It wasn't a big deal that they went by. But even Harvard, as much as we say a half a billion compared to the, you know, $51 billion that they have, it's not that much bigger than what Colombia had to pay. So Columbia paid the biggest price. By the way, that's assuming Harvard only pays 500 million. This has not been finalized yet. It's still on goal.
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Vinnie
And where's Columbia located?
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Pat
I want to go to the next Downtown New York.
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Adam
It's in New York, next door.
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Pat
I want to go to next story.
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Adam
Next.
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Pat
I want to go.
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Vinnie
I think Pat wants to go to next story. Vinny, would you let him go?
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Pat
Overwhelmingly want to go to the next story. And the story I wanted to get to is Shannon Sharpe. So Rob, what pages of Shannon Sharpe story here? So Shannon Sharp is. Has had some issues. Okay. Last year, Shannon Sharp not. Maybe it was even this year. Last year Shannon Sharp somehow didn't know how to turn off Instagram live while he was having some extracurricular activities with somebody, a friend, right? And he's like, I don't know how to use Instagram. Yeah, for sure. It's like seven steps to go live. Very, very easy to just press and go live right now. You got to keep in mind his podcast is blown up. Katt Williams biggest podcast I think he did of 2023 or 2024 club 70 something million. You got to give the guy shout out. He knows how to get the eyeballs and he has stayed steady doing what he's done. So shout out to him being phenomenal at the interviews he's done. Not just one many of them. ESPN done with Shannon Sharpe after bombshell. $50 million rape lawsuit with what was the 19 year old girl? How old was some story? 19, 20, 21 year girl. Something happened with the girl. She was a 19 or 20 year old girl that he was hooking up with or something happened there. All right, let me read this to you. ESPN sever ties with Pro Football hall of Fame Shannon Sharp as reported by the Athletic Andrew Marching on Wednesday following settlement of $50 million Nevada state court in April accused him of assault, sexual assault, sexual battery and battery. The plaintiff, Jane Doe. That's obviously not the real name I'm assuming, right? Jane Doe alleged Sharpe assaulted her multiple times in late 2024 and early 2025. Sharp denied all allegations of coercion and misconduct with his lawyer, Lanny J. Davis, stating the evidence paints a clear picture. This was a consensual adult relationship that included role playing, sexual language and fantasy scenarios. Sharp stepped away from ESPN's first take, April after joining in 2023, saying, at this juncture, I'm electing to step aside temporarily from ESPN duties. I will be devoting this time to my family and responding and dealing with these false and disruptive allegations set aside, set against me at espn. Okay? ESPN supported his decision, stating to the press this is a serious situation and we agree with Shannon Sharpe's decision to step away. Now, this is him what he said yesterday of how he feels about the decision. And he only had one request from espn, which ESPN didn't accept his request. Go for it, Rob. We get started. Obviously, I'm sure everybody's heard the news by now that I will not be returning to espn. I found out this information a little earlier in the week and really the only thing that I really ask is like, guys, could we wait until Monday? My brother's going into the Pro Football hall of Fame. I really want it to be about him and I wanted to be about my family. I know this would. I said, this coming out will overshadow everything that he's worked his entire life for. And unfortunately, you know, it didn't happen that way. And so as I told him, as I profusely apologized to him earlier today, he said, bro, stop apologizing. You don't have to apologize. I'm your big bro. I'm gonna love you regardless. We all make mistake. We've all. And he says, bro, I love you. So I'm done with this. You're done with it too. Move on. And I really enjoyed my time at espn. It gave me an opportunity to bring. He was very complimentary of espn, didn't say anything bad about espn. The only thing that he said is he wanted this to be left till Monday for the celebration hall of Fame of Sterling Sharpe, et cetera, et Cetera. Now, having said that, your thoughts on.
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Tommy Lauren
The story, again, accusations, all this have to be taken seriously. But I would also say to all these people, because this just seems to be a rinse and repeat story of all of these big names, a lot of them sports that have gone into television, what have you. Accusations come out, then you got lawsuits, then you got your network involved, then you've got, you know, salacious details, and then you got more accusers that come out. And first of all, don't do gross things and don't hurt people and don't assault people. First and foremost, I think that's a given. But also to these people that are in these positions, I've lived by a rule. Don't mess with anybody who has nothing to lose. And by that I mean, not only don't do bad stuff, but if you are a public figure or if you've got money or fame or a platform, you have to be really, really careful who you spend your time with and what you do and how much you divulge. And it's unfortunate. That's part of the reality, though, of being a public figure, because this kind of stuff can ruin your life. He's got money. He's not gonna go broke. We don't think he'll weather this fine, probably get another gig, do his own thing. But this cloud is going to follow him around probably for the rest of his life. And if it's true, then he deserves it. If it's not, well, that's just more damage from the, I guess, the MeToo movement that we take everybody's word as gospel now.
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Pat
I actually love that advice. Be careful associating with people that have nothing to lose. It is so flipping true. Like, hey, you're hanging out with somebody, they're doing dumb stuff, they go to jail, they don't care. You can lose your career, everything. That's a very sound advice to anybody that's even younger coming up when you're doing that. By the way, a couple things I want to give you. When Vinny, I come to you. Here's a girl's name. Meet Gabrielle Zuniga. If you go a little bit lower. Rob. That's her. Rob, you could have chosen any other picture. You chose that one, Rob. I mean, there's, like, plenty of pictures you could have done, but. All right, so that's the girl. Now, I at the same time, went online and typed in what his career earnings was in the NFL over 14 years. He made $22.3 million. $22.3 million, Tom, in 14 years. Not a lot of money after taxes, after agents. So he hasn't made a lot of money. Okay. And he's probably spent a lot of that now. YouTube. Can we see how many views his YouTube channel got last 12 months? What did. What did Shannon Sharpe's YouTube channel get last 12 months? Can you just go to chat GBT and ask it? Will it show you or. No, I just want to know how many views I got. So if you go into Club Shay. Shay. Holy. Okay, he's gotten 1.1 billion views in the last 12 months.
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Producer
Wow.
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Pat
So you take 1.1 billion views. Okay? That's total views. Let's say last 12 months is 300 million views. 300 million views, Rob, if you get $4,000 per million view. $4,000 times 300 million million two. Couple million dollars. So it's not like it's that much money either at Spotify, at sponsorship. Let's say his podcast is making him 10 million a year. 5 to 10 million here. So he's got money there. I don't know how much. His ESPN contract was online. They're saying his net worth is 14 million. I don't even know how much he settled for. Is this a $50 million settlement that he did, by the way? Is that the number that we're reading?
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Vinnie
That's why I think she was suing for. There's allegedly. They settled at 10 million.
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Pat
Is that the number they're talking about? Okay, so, Tom, question coming your way. Vinnie, I'm going to come to you. I'm going to go to him, and then I'll come to, because I want to ask him based on this. Trevor Bauer.
- [26:44]
Adam
Yep.
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Pat
We all know who he is. We've had him on. He's a good friend. We've talked many times. He's visited us many, many times. This guy was at the top of the top. Wins the Cy Young Award, meets a girl. They do what they do. All the texts show that it was consensual. And Maybe he watched 50 Shades of Gray one too many times. I don't know. Maybe he was inspired by. What's the guy's name? Something gray, right? Maybe he wanted to be that guy in baseball. Who knows? The girl was okay with it. Then they go to Pasadena Court, then she loses. It's like, dude, okay, can I come back to the mlb? No, no, no. You're too toxic. I didn't do anything wrong. No, you can't come back. Rob Manfred doesn't allow this guy to come back. He gets Blackballed teams are afraid of signing this guy, and then he's now playing the game, not making a lot of money, just having a time of his life in Mexico. But he didn't settle. How different is the Trevor Bauer case versus the Shannon Sharpe case, Tom?
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Adam
Well, the Trevor Bauer case, what we found out at the end with three texts from her to a friend. Did you get the bag? Did you set it up? And those were there. And Pasadena prosecutors sat on that for months, which would be. Which if you take something like that to a grand jury, the grand jury goes, now, wait a minute here. This is like a premeditated entrapment here. She's trying to entrap to get the civil suit to get the headlines, which would compel him to settle a civil suit. It's a playbook. It's a playbook for the cleat chasers. Now, I agree with Tommy that you gotta be careful. And if you've gone out there and you've really assaulted somebody and done something, then women need to be protected. Victims need to be protected, given their silence, get it to the grand jury and prosecution has to take place. That's not what happened to Trevor Bauer. Trevor Bauer met a cleat chaser. She enacted the entrapment, but he wouldn't back down. But baseball, under social pressure at that time, flinched, and they suspended him during the investigation. That's normal. Baseball will say, hey, you get arrested, something's up. You're gonna go on, you know, basically the equivalent of administrative leave. We're gonna let this thing play out. But Trevor gave facts, was bringing receipts, and was very compelling. And that. But then baseball didn't come back the other way and say, whoops, sorry. Now, many people, including me, think the reason baseball wouldn't do that, it opens them up to a civil suit because then he gets to go after baseball. So you really shouldn't have suspended me. You shouldn't have done that. You shouldn't have leaked to the media.
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Pat
Let me ask you.
- [29:11]
Adam
Coming after.
- [29:11]
Pat
Okay, let me ask you a question.
- [29:12]
Adam
So they. Baseball stands up. We stand by our decision.
- [29:14]
Pat
But I'm asking you a question. So. So let's just say, you know, that's the case, and I'm with you there. Can Trevor Bowers lawyers go to Manfred and say, we are willing to hold you harmless if you allow me to come back, that I can never sue you in the civil court. Can Trevor Bowers lawyers go request that from mlb?
- [29:34]
Adam
Yes, they can, and I think they did. I'm not going to speak for his agent, Rachel Luba. But I believe Rachel and Trevor even went to teams and said, look, if you want to test the announcement, I'll play for zero. Just test the announcement and let's see if there is a pop of me too ism or some people that are reacting without the facts. And then as that dies down, I'll play this year for free. Instead, he goes to the. Goes to Mexico, wins the equivalent of the Mexican Cy Young and the championship, the Mexican League. And this year he's back with the base stars in Japan and the fans love him. And by the way, the fans in Mexico and the fans and base stars, they love him because what does he do? He throws a great ball and he helps him win.
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Pat
Are you kidding me? This guy was documented, was like the first YouTuber baseball player showing the experience of baseball bringing young guys. Wanted to watch. Watch the game. Go ahead.
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Tommy Lauren
Yeah, and Trevor's a friend of mine as well, and I've had him on my show. And this is devastating. But it's not only that they won't let him come back. I mean, let's be honest, he's not at the top of his career anymore. It's been years since then. In baseball, your longevity is only so long. So they robbed him of many millions of dollars. But this goes back to again. And I think this should be lessons for all young athletes out there when they're doing all this nil crap. Instead, do a lesson on who to associate with and who not to associate with.
- [30:56]
Pat
Then, Tommy, I got a question for you. So I'm a single baseball player. Okay. Your husband. Baseball. Right. Okay. So I'm a single baseball player. I'm a single football player. I got girls running up to me left and right. How the hell do I go find the girls that I want to have fun with that have a lot to lose? Like there's not a website that says find the rich her. Right. Fender, I don't know what Tinder like, you know.
- [31:21]
Adam
Yeah.
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Pat
How do I go link up with only girls that also have money, career, that have a lot to lose? How do I find them?
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Tommy Lauren
It's not even that you have to find somebody that has a lot to lose. It's just maybe show a little restraint, a little personal restraint. Nothing saying that you can't be in a relationship with a girl that maybe has nothing to lose. That's fine. But you've got to. When you're a public figure, it's not maybe fair, but you're gonna have to reserve some of yourself until you can Trust somebody and maybe not do the kinky role play and all this stuff. You know, you might have to just kind of hold back yourself a little bit.
- [31:55]
Pat
Trevor's not gonna like that.
- [31:56]
Tommy Lauren
Well, I think he's learned his lesson now. I think he'd rather have his baseball career back.
- [32:01]
Pat
Well, and, you know, I think he didn't have the contract that Derek Jeter had in New York, allegedly, where Derek Jeter had a very tight contract that any girl that he would have fun with. I don't know if you've heard about the story. Jeter. This is. There's stories on this. And then at the end of the visit to his penthouse or whatever room was, they would get a gift back, sign ball, all this other stuff they would leave. But he. His lawyer would have him allegedly sign a contract with girls before he had any kind of, you know, maybe. Yeah. And, Vinnie, your thoughts on this?
- [32:39]
Producer
Well, first of all, Pat, you know the app that we were talking about, the app that we kind of came up with?
- [32:43]
Pat
Yeah.
- [32:45]
Producer
There needs to be an app called the consexual app, where you're like, oh, you want. I'm this guy. You want to have sex? Make a video? I'm down to do it.
- [32:53]
Pat
Nothing.
- [32:53]
Producer
You can't sue me. Just something that's on the f. Because, listen, at the end of the day, Shannon Sharp, and I love him. And, guys, I'm not judging him, but he's a victim of his own doing, okay? This is what happens when you chase fame and flesh instead of purpose and discipline, okay? And you think you're untouchable. That's what starts happening. And mind you, he's been vocal. You seen him and Chad, Oenko, Tommy, when they're on the podcast, they're talking about chicks and girls and. And doing all that.
- [33:15]
Pat
OO is a little bit more conservative than him. Yeah. As weird as it sounds.
- [33:19]
Vinnie
Seriously.
- [33:19]
Pat
Oh, it's not even. He's in a relationship. It's way more conservative.
- [33:23]
Producer
But she makes a great. It's. It's when. When people are around you that have nothing to lose. That's what happens. And then you accidentally are on IG Live and you're hooking up with the girl, and it's like, listen, this isn't about cancel culture P. It's about consequences, okay? When you live that reckless life, eventually the mask slips off, okay? You think you're in control, but you're not, okay? And. And. And again. And I'm not being that guy, but I have to. I'm not judging him. But the Closer you get to God, the less you're going to be doing this stupid hooking up, recording, doing this. And then all of a sudden, it hits you in your face. How many more of these guys. You nailed it. Are we going to see how many big name famous people, athletes, whatever, are going to get destroyed from one night?
- [34:02]
Pat
See what this guy's going to. I want to hear some of these friends. That is your thought.
- [34:07]
Vinnie
Well, listen, I was told to believe all women and I was lied to because turns out women, much like any other person, will lie sometimes.
- [34:19]
Producer
What?
- [34:19]
Vinnie
Yeah, they'll do it.
- [34:20]
Pat
I don't believe.
- [34:21]
Vinnie
And especially, especially women, when there's multimillionaire celebrity, athletes, politicians, producers, rappers, you fill in the blank and you're just a young, pretty female. I've learned this and we've seen this one happen. The right woman will turn a millionaire into a billionaire. The wrong woman will turn a millionaire into a brokey. Just like that. And we're starting to see all the cracks in the charade of this MeToo movement where it turns out a lot of these women were actually lying. So what happened with Trevor Bauer? Turns out she was full on lying. What happened with Johnny Depp and Amber Heard? Turns out she was the.
- [34:59]
Producer
She was pooping on his bed.
- [35:00]
Pat
Yeah.
- [35:01]
Vinnie
Turns out Andrew Tate, they've been throwing the book at this guy. Zero charges at this point. Donald Trump himself. How many women have accused Donald Trump of inappropriate sexual behavior? Has he been found guilty of anything other than that one weird lady with.
- [35:15]
Producer
Crazy one that said Russell Brand, Jared.
- [35:19]
Vinnie
Leto, even Kevin Spacey, even Harvey Weinstein, to a weird extent. Candace Owens out there, not that I found her with the highest credibility these days, has been basically saying maybe he's been sort of been accused of things that he didn't actually do. The reality is this, a lot of these women you can't trust. You talked about, how do you find out a woman who's.
- [35:43]
Pat
What?
- [35:43]
Vinnie
How did you put it?
- [35:45]
Pat
Race the rudders.
- [35:46]
Vinnie
Race the sails.
- [35:47]
Producer
Race the sails.
- [35:49]
Vinnie
Captain, an unidentified ship is approaching.
- [35:51]
Pat
Over.
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- [36:48]
Vinnie
Most women don't have anything to lose. Most of these women are just young and hot, period, Full stop. The man has something to lose. So if you're a man, you need to solve for a woman with at least values. Because a lot of these guys are banging only fans, models, let's call it what it is that are there for hire. And what do you expect to happen when you're a multi millionaire and some only fans girl shows up? You think she has the moral clarity or the values and principles not to sue? You remember what happened with Drake when he was hooking up with some random stripper girl and then she found out putting he put hot sauce in the condom. Do you remember this story?
- [37:22]
Pat
Of course. Yeah.
- [37:23]
Vinnie
Because this is what women will try to do to rich men. Men, use your big head, not your small head or you're going to pay the price.
- [37:30]
Producer
But it's not like, like, by the way, to settle that lawsuit, she had to have some type of ground. Like we heard the audio of him allegedly saying like I'll slap that whatever the hell it was. It's not like she didn't have any grounds to freaking get some money at him. Like if you heard some of those undercover whatever she leaked those tapes, it wasn't in the best light of him saying like I will go there and I will beat your ass or slap. I don't know what the hell the actual dialogue was, but it wasn't. What, what do you say, Rob? Well, if you say that word one more time.
- [37:58]
Adam
Yeah, I'm gonna choke the out of you. Well, my parting shot on this is we're living in a world of full documentation and cameras on every corner. That's a new world we live in. If you take a look at the book espn, the uncensored history written by Michael Freeman, he talks about. And I'm not going to name the names, every one of the major, not everyone, almost all of the major anchors, big names who are alleged, allegedly raped an intern in a closet or allegedly roofied another intern. There were things that happened, but this is before everything was documented. Left, right and center. This is before she's got. And listen to this text message. And listen to this. And listen to this voice note and listen to this. All of that for Shannon Sharp is out there. The public documentation There is what ESPN couldn't run away from and said, gosh, this is too hot with women. We can't. If we keep you, we're taking some sort of a stand against women. We can't do that. It's too hot. We can't do that. When in the past people settled lawsuits and ESPN road checks. Right. For their guys and at a different time, and they were still on the air with, with similar or worse situations.
- [39:01]
Vinnie
Pat, let me ask you. We started talking about how Trump may pardon Diddy.
- [39:05]
Pat
Yeah.
- [39:05]
Vinnie
Is that a possibility? Look, something that is very real these days is trial by media and trial by social media. We all thought Diddy was the devil. I mean, turns out he was just a freaky, weird dude. I mean, what has he been found guilty of?
- [39:17]
Producer
Nothing. Because the law. Just because the lawyers and everybody didn't do the greatest job doesn't mean he's still not. If you know what he is, a.
- [39:24]
Vinnie
Piece of, you're not guilty of being a piece of. If Trump pardons Diddy, what do you think the fallout will be of that?
- [39:32]
Pat
Now, let me ask you a question. You just said a lot there in 20 seconds, but hang on a second.
- [39:36]
Adam
Can I jump from one story to another?
- [39:38]
Pat
So. So do you think O.J. simpson killed his wife?
- [39:44]
Vinnie
OJ, yeah, I'm gonna go with yes on that.
- [39:47]
Pat
Oh, but where's the proof?
- [39:50]
Adam
The second trial, civil. It was.
- [39:54]
Pat
Listen, no, I'm asking him. Tell. I'm not asking you.
- [39:57]
Vinnie
OJ's out there, before he died, was still looking for the killer.
- [40:01]
Pat
All right, but what I'm asking you is, what I'm asking you is, did O.J. kill his wife?
- [40:06]
Vinnie
According to the. The courts, no. According to anyone with common sense, most likely, yes.
- [40:15]
Pat
So I'm asking you. Not today. I'm asking Adam Scharznick, what are you thinking he did?
- [40:21]
Vinnie
I'm going to go with most, most, most likely. Yes.
- [40:23]
Pat
Yes. Okay. Most, most likely, yes. Okay.
- [40:25]
Vinnie
So just that stupid glove.
- [40:27]
Pat
The glove. Some of the stuff happens with Diddy and stuff that he did. It doesn't mean there isn't protection and layers of protection by, you know, a bunch of people that are financially involved and all this other stuff, this won't be the first time that that's happened. This is a different story than what we talked about with Duke Lacrosse, all of that last week. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about this. What happens if he pardons Diddy? I think Trump is reached a point right now that he has increased his score of surprises. So High with everybody. That nobody, we, the audience, the voters are immune to what he does. Nothing will surprise anybody. Yeah, that's Trump. He's the most unpredictable president we've ever had. He's not a predictable president.
- [41:18]
Adam
That's true.
- [41:19]
Pat
You want to talk predictable? We had a lot of presidents that were predictable. Obama was predictable. Biden was predictable. A lot of presidents we had were predictable. This is the most unpredictable guy. He could, on the same day, pardon Diddy and Jelaine Maxwell.
- [41:34]
Vinnie
Oh, God.
- [41:35]
Pat
And people will say, what the. What. What just happened?
- [41:39]
Vinnie
And the two of them are going.
- [41:39]
Pat
To start a podcast and then they'll, they'll move on. But do I think he'll do it? I think if there's anybody capable of pardoning Diddy, it's probably Trump. It's probably Trump if he does it.
- [41:50]
Producer
But what would be, what would be the like? And I get, I, I agree 1,000%. Even me. Somebody's been following him since voting for him three times since 2016. What the hell is he doing sometimes. But if he, if he pardons Diddy.
- [42:03]
Pat
Yeah.
- [42:03]
Producer
Who's a convicted two time felon with counts of transporting women across state lines for prostitution and all the other counts that were dropping, by the way. James Comey's daughter was the prosecutor. She's fired. Whatever. And then floating. Ghislaine Maxwell, who's serving the 20 years for what was her enticing minors, conspiracy to transport minors, and transporting minors with the intent to engage in illegal sexual acts. Like, what is if. If. Because he said, Pat, the article, was he seriously. The White House is seriously considering doing that. I don't know about surprises or anything, but that's, that is some wild stuff. Ghislaine Maxwell. If Ghislaine's going to come out and she's testifying, she's going to talk in front of people.
- [42:40]
Pat
Should not surprise you if he does that. I want to hear, I want to hear Tommy's thoughts and then I'll give you my final thoughts. Go ahead, Tommy.
- [42:46]
Tommy Lauren
I don't get the political calculation of that. He's not running again, so maybe he just does what he wants to do. There's been a lot of questions about some of the pardons that Trump has issued, though the Chrisley family kind of being one. It was like, oh, and there were some others that were not as high profile, that when you look into him, you go, why? Why would you do that? Like, it's a little weird. But the thing about President Trump, and I'm sure you know this as well, if he feels that somebody has been railroaded by the justice system the way he feels like he has been, he has a soft spot for those people. Now, Diddy ended up walking away, getting very little. So I think let him serve out what's probably going to be a very short sentence and probably pretty much nothing. I say let him serve what he needs to serve. I don't see the political calculation for Trump there. Now maybe for Trump it's like, well, I feel like he was railroaded and I feel like it was unfair to him. In his heart he would make that decision. I don't think it's probably the right one given Diddy didn't get much time anyway. And the thing about the Diddy thing that's still going to get stuck in people's craw here is the Cassie video. Everything else, it's the salacious text messages and the freak offs and all that's gross. That video, though, not good.
- [43:57]
Vinnie
Oh, the video is disgusting. Well, listen, you're an attractive woman. I assume you've had your, you know, creepy men kind of saying, hey, how you doing? Other than that video with Cassie. Disgusting, despicable. Anyone with a moral compass will condemn that. What has Diddy really done to deserve what he's dealing with right now?
- [44:18]
Pat
What does that sound, Rob?
- [44:20]
Vinnie
Sorry, it's my speakers.
- [44:21]
Pat
Oh, okay, go ahead. What has Diddy done outside of this?
- [44:24]
Tommy Lauren
I'll tell you this now. This is not, this is just a, again, the court of public opinion, which isn't always fair. When you watch that video and you watch the way he treated her, that doesn't look like a one moment of rage. That looks like somebody who probably does that quite often. So he barely got any, you know, with the convictions that he actually got, it's so minimal. Anyway, I don't see Trump pardoning him for. I don't think he's going to do much time, let's put it that way. That video though, in the court of public opinion doesn't look like someone who's a first timer.
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Vinnie
No, I listen again. Disgusting, despicable behavior. Other than that, what has he done that has been really that bad?
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Tommy Lauren
What I'm saying is that shows that you have a pattern of behaving that.
- [45:07]
Vinnie
Way, but you can't. I don't know, I'm no legal scholar. You can't be found guilty of.
- [45:12]
Tommy Lauren
And he.
- [45:12]
Vinnie
Well, maybe you could have done it.
- [45:13]
Tommy Lauren
And he wasn't, but that's why he didn't get found guilty of all those other things. And the sentence is so minimal. But the. What he actually did get charged for, it's pretty indisputable he did those things at least. Okay, so why would Trump pardon him for the minimal charges that he's already been convicted on? When again, for Trump, you have to make a political calculation. You don't want to be standing in the corner of somebody who might be a habitual abuser. At least by what we're seeing in that video. My perspective is you're not a first time abuser.
- [45:46]
Vinnie
Yeah, I agree with you wholeheartedly that Trump, there's no upside to doing this. He's not running for re election. This isn't like a. Something that people are campaigning against. But he does have a soft spot for people who might have been wrongly accused. What was the whole thing he did with Kim Kardashian back in 2018? The criminal justice.
- [46:02]
Pat
Yeah.
- [46:02]
Vinnie
The first reform, the first step back. So clearly Trump knows what it feels like to be wrongfully accused. And probably people think Trump is like this monster robotic person. He's a, he's a human. And I think a lot of things have changed, especially after he almost lost his life. I wouldn't be surprised if he did things just because he felt like it.
- [46:20]
Pat
Yeah. Here's what I would tell you with the pattern of what Trump's got. Go to his pattern. He sided with Tyson, he sided with Michael Jackson. He sided with a lot of different people. That, that is the position. That was the opposite position of what everybody else was taking. He's been doing this for many years. And go, do you remember when Trump went and helped Ramos out? Where was Ramos stuck in. Was he stuck in Venice? He was stuck. Jorge Ramos, where was Jorge Ramos stuck in, like in, in Trump's first term, where Trump went and got him out and Ramos was forced to say thank you to him.
- [46:53]
Vinnie
Was that Puerto Rico? What was that?
- [46:55]
Pat
Do you remember that, Rob, or.
- [46:56]
Adam
No, I'm gonna have to look.
- [46:57]
Pat
Yeah. If you look it up, I think Ramos was stuck somewhere. It could have been Venezuela, could have been somewhere. And then Trump came out and said, you better release him or else. And then they released him. And Jorge ramos, which in 2015 was extremely, extremely critical of him, came back and defended Trump and Trump. The guy that was constantly going after him all of a sudden flipped and started defending Trump. And he had nothing bad to say about him because it's an emotional thing. You saved my life. You got me out of this. There it is. That's the one. So he was detained in Venezuela. So during Venezuela, early next. Yeah. There was something that happened that Trump helped him out where he came and helped him out. What happens if this guy gives Diddy a pardon? What does Diddy do? Does, did he come and become a conservative Republican MAGA the next day? Probably not. Does he gain a little bit more the vote of people that have been wrongly jailed and all that? Maybe. Are those voters, Is he getting, like you said, he's not running again. So I don't know what the motive of this being done or maybe he's just trying to change the conversation and let the market talk and not be paying attention to this. Who knows, Maybe the attention goes off of Epstein and goes to Diddy distraction, who knows? But let's go to the story with Fox News. Trump says Wall Street Journal wants to settle defamation lawsuit. Okay. And Rob, I think you got this video somewhere if I'm not mistaken. And then I'm going to go read. Go for it.
- [48:22]
Adam
This is short. Just say no.
- [48:23]
Vinnie
Just audio.
- [48:24]
Adam
This is from Air Force One.
- [48:25]
Pat
Go ahead. Yeah, they're having, they want to settle it treated as wrong. I mean, you know, when, when I get treated unfairly, I do things about it.
- [48:37]
Adam
So we'll, we'll see what happens.
- [48:40]
Pat
Okay. So it doesn't say much. And then on the other video clip, Rob, overwhelming good cause exists to expedite Trump wants to put Murdoch under oath right away after filing massive defamation suit against WSJ over Jeffrey Epstein's report. The letter Trump lawyer Alejandro Brito filed a motion on Monday demanding that billionaire Rupert Murdoch, owner of Wall Street Journal sit for a deposition within 15 days, citing Murdoch's age and health, stating the 94 year old has suffered from multiple health issues throughout his life, is believed to have suffered recent significant health scares and is presumed to live in New York. The motion argues that there is good cost to expedite Murdoch's deposition and the court should exercise its discretion to authorize the same as Trump sues the Journal over a report claiming it composed a body of 50 birthday card for sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. So what's going to happen here, Tommy? What's going to happen with this story, by the way? Are you, are you a full time employee?
- [49:40]
Tommy Lauren
I sure am. So there's, there's not a whole lot I'm going to comment on on this one. I'm going to have to leave it to you guys.
- [49:48]
Pat
Okay, so what's going to happen here, Tom, your thoughts on this one?
- [49:52]
Adam
Well, they're trying to claim that with Rupert. So what do you do when you sue somebody if you really believe that there's something there. You want to get to what's called discovery and deposition D and D, you want deposition so you can ask them questions. You ask them questions. The way you answer those questions, you can get judges to look at the deposition and to say, well, the document they were talking about here, where you kind of took the Fifth and everything, I'm gonna allow, I'm gonna call that admissible evidence and I'm gonna say that, that that is a permissible discovery. It's a wrestling match. And so what Trump's lawyer wants, we want a deposition with Rupert Murdoch as quickly as possible. If you're Murdoch, you don't want that as quickly as possible. Cuz depositions lead to discovery and lead to documents. So the other side for Trump, Rupert's guys are gonna say, well, we got this birthday card and we got some other things here, and if you want those to come out, go for it. So it ends up being this chess game where someone says, oh really? So you wanna come depose us? Well, we may put some other articles out there for public inspection when we go into court, unless they decide to seal those things. And what Trump is trying to do here is push hard through his lawyer, his lawyer in Florida, Alejandro Brito, I believe. And he is the guy that's saying, hey, let's get the deposition right now. Because what they want, they want the media covering Rupert walking up the steps to some office building where there will be, you know, a stenographer and everybody there for the deposition. There'll be a little circus outside. What did you say in the deposition position, sir? What was going on there? And that's what Trump wants. And Trump wants to get further into discovery. He's like, I dare you. And so this is Trump's part of pushing for a settlement. And then Rupert comes back and says, listen, we're going to want to do this. Well, I'm not going to drop my suit. And usually where it goes is you have to settle or silence where everybody agrees fit to go away or there's a settlement. And this is what Trump did for 60 Minutes. And he kept banging that drum and he kept pushing hard and ultimately CBS blinked. Now, nevermind all the people that said that that was really a bribe so that they would approve the Skydance deal. Right?
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Pat
So by the way, here's what Michael Wolff says about the strategy. Go ahead and play this. This is the biography of Michael Wolf. Here's what he had to say. But the Trump people, but Trump and.
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Adam
His people, his lawyers are.
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Pat
You know.
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Adam
You have to give them a certain.
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Pat
Give them their due here. They're quite an incredible opponent and a clever opponent.
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Adam
And their approach now is that they have asked the court to expedite the deposition of Rupert Murdoch on the basis that he is 94 years old and that he might die at any minute and they won't get a chance to depose him.
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Pat
And that is quite possibly very true.
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Adam
And at the same time, they recognize.
- [53:02]
Vinnie
That no one certainly in the Murdoch.
- [53:05]
Adam
Organization is going to want to put a 94 year old under oath. And the White House now regards that as a leverage toward a settlement.
- [53:22]
Pat
But there is another aspect of this.
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Adam
That is hopeful maybe, which is to.
- [53:31]
Pat
Say that the Murdoch people are now.
- [53:35]
Adam
In a position to ask the same.
- [53:38]
Pat
Thing of Donald Trump, essentially to demand the same thing.
- [53:43]
Adam
Here is an overweight man who is almost 80 years old who too might.
- [53:49]
Pat
Go at any moment.
- [53:50]
Vinnie
Oh, stop it.
- [53:51]
Adam
So can the Murdoch people force Donald Trump into a deposition? Let's, let's realize the deposition is might well be the under Adam.
- [54:06]
Pat
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Tommy Lauren
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Pat
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Tommy Lauren
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- [54:52]
Vinnie
So you know what might sink Trump? Nothing. Nothing. In 2016 he says, you know, I could shoot someone in Fifth Avenue, I wouldn't lose a vote. I believe Trump. Trump's going nowhere. This is just another nonsensical story that they're dragging from the Dirt in 2003 that he wrote that he scribbled some what, crude image of a lady and some alleged fake conversation with him and Jeffrey Epps. I know your secrets. Me too.
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Pat
Love you.
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Vinnie
Happy birthday. What do we think happened now? Let's say he's guilty of writing that letter. He did it. We got him. Now what? You're guilty of writing a birthday letter to a creepy dude 20 something years ago. I don't understand the outcome here. Do they actually think this is going to bring down his presidency? I'll say this one other thing. Does anybody have more credibility these days in journalism than The Wall Street Journal, I think they're doing great. I think Wall Street Journal is a very credible news outlet. I read them all the time. We talk about them all the time. So something's going to give. Either they're completely fumbled the bag here and they're lying or Trump is what, guilty of writing a cartoon to a weirdo. I don't understand the outcome here.
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Producer
You tell me what, you know what it is. Adam, this is what was earlier in the week. What did we talk about with the Scott Jennings, the Democrat? Just the left in general. Wall Street Journal, all these people, they are just cooked. They have nothing. Like they're grasping.
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Vinnie
You said this is what they got. But this isn't the left. No, this is Wall Street Journals are probably a center right.
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Producer
Wall Street Journal where Wall Street Journal.
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Tommy Lauren
Is a, is a center right.
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Vinnie
I would say.
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Pat
Oh for sure.
- [56:30]
Vinnie
Certainly common sense.
- [56:32]
Producer
But the relationship with Rupert Murdoch is what is what with Donald Trump.
- [56:35]
Vinnie
So the question is, is, is Rupert Murdoch in his last breaths of life trying to basically take down Donald Trump? I mean, is that the question?
- [56:42]
Pat
I would even ask and say how involved was Rupert Murdoch in them writing this article about the letter? I think it's less than 1%. Dude. What are you involved in when you're 94 years old, married to. How old is this new girl? She's in her 20s. Do you know how much energy you need to conserve to at least make her happy?
- [57:01]
Vinnie
She's not his age, I can guarantee.
- [57:03]
Pat
How. How old? No, I'm not trying to be. I'm actually being very serious. I'm not. How old is she?
- [57:08]
Vinnie
I agree. 67.
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Pat
To him that's like, by the way, that's a 26 year difference. That's like you being, that's like you being 44 dating a 18 year old. That's not, that's not as if we don't know anyone. Yeah, but the, the moral, I don't even think he knows what's going on with the story. Zero. I don't think he's involved. No, I don't think he's involved. I don't think there's, there's a level, this is seven generations away from him of being involved. Like layers Chairman, CEO, CMO division. Da da da ba ba right here. Can maybe the C suite executives know about it. I don't know if Murdoch knew about this, but I understand what Trump's all about. You go after him, he's got to come for your throat and that's what he's doing. What ends up happening out of this. Nobody has a clue. I will tell you, though, do we. Do we have the Jhisne Maxwell story of what she said that she doesn't want to. She doesn't want to do anything unless if she gets her terms. I don't know if we put that in here, Rob, at all. I know. Oh, there it is. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it on page 17. So I don't know if you saw this or not. So, Ghislaine Maxwell request for immunity is in exchange for testimony denied in stunning twist. All right, what is the stunning twist? She threatens to dodge Epstein question unless demands are made. What are these demands by Ghislaine Maxwell? Is this our friend Rob that's breaking it down?
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Vinnie
Yes. Kaitlan Collins was in the courthouse when.
- [58:41]
Adam
The court received the letter of the.
- [58:43]
Vinnie
Demands from the attorney.
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Pat
Okay, go for it.
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Tommy Lauren
Traveling to Washington today, and we just got word on Ghislaine Maxwell's response to that congressional subpoena seeking her testimony. Her attorneys have just sent a letter to the House Oversight Chair, James Comer, saying initially they were just going to invoke her Fifth amendment rights. But they say now that they are willing to cooperate if. And this is a huge if. Some big demands are met. One that includes her being granted formal immunity for her testimony so she can't be prosecuted for anything, she says. Secondly, they'd like for this interview to take place outside of the correctional facility where she's currently serving her 20 year sentence. And they say that in order to prepare for this deposition and given the volume of materials that she'd have to sort through beforehand, that she needs the questions written and in advance from the committee before she would go and answer them. They say in this letter that surprise questioning, in their view, would be, quote, unproductive. They also say that any testimony that she would give would have to happen after her fight with the Supreme Court over her conviction. Right now she's appealing that conviction, and this is something that could go on for months, meaning if that testimony is going to happen, it could be quite some time before it even occurs. However, that immunity demand is a big one because we heard from the House Oversight chair, James Comer, who said he didn't think it would be likely that anyone would want to grant immunity to someone who. Who has been convicted of child sex trafficking.
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Pat
Okay, so what do you think's going on here? What are making those requests? Are those fair requests?
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Tommy Lauren
I think for her, she sees a great silver lining in this because it's back in the news and she's like, hey, listen, I might get a deal here. I would also say, though, if you had all this information, why didn't you make a deal the first time before you got your 20 years again? I understand why there's such a. An eye on the Epstein files. I understand that some people have made careers for the Last at least 5, 6, 7 years on Epstein and the conspiracy around it. I get that. For me, personally, I understand the intrigue. Everyone loves a conspiracy theory, but there are children and teens and young girls being trafficked right now and I wish there was as much energy and attention given to that. Maybe the 300,000 migrant children that we are still trying to track down from the Biden years and what have you, maybe a little bit more energy on that rather than the people that are just trying to influence pedal for clicks and content and the influencers who are so dug into this because it's become their lifeblood. I find that a little annoying.
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Vinnie
I'm with Tommy on this one.
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Producer
Yeah, but, but Tommy, do you think that there should be accountability? Because, I mean, she's in prison for 20 years for conspiracy, sex trafficking, minors. She's guilty. Where are the customers? Where are all these people? All these big names that we all know? Bill Clinton was one of the most prolific, flying on Lolita express, going to the island. And I get exactly what you're saying I'm all for. Pat always talks about the hill that you would die under the sword you fall on. I'm for the kids. At the end of the day, if it's Gaza and those children that are dying and starving, I think we're going to get there. To the women that are still in front of cameras today saying Ghislaine is a freaking demon as well. Epstein did this and the victims are out there. We have to have accountability or else it's never going to stop. And those 300,000 kids at our border, they found 10,000. But let's not forget Ghislaine is a freaking sex trafficking, underage girl minor and her other victim, this is one of her victims. I'll stay here.
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Pat
I want to go to this. First thing I want to do is the immunity part. Yeah, let's do that. And trust me, we're going to go to this because she makes a very good point. And the reason why I say she makes a very good point, it's the same argument that Adam makes when Adam says, what about the Syrians? Why are you so worried about Gaza? How come you don't talk about what they did to the Syrians. Why is it only about what Israel does? Okay. It's a good argument to give both sides, and I actually appreciate the fact that she said that. But the question I'm asking here is the following. Her lawyers coming out, asking for immunity, asking for protection. I'm willing to come out and say everything and anything you want to know. I want to do it off site. I want to be. Be able to do it after my ruling, which is going to take months, probably four months from now. Tom, I want to know from you that position that she is taking to be able to talk. Okay. Are you. Are you comfortable with what the requests are being made by the lawyer?
- [63:11]
Adam
Well, I'm not going to give her. If I'm. If I'm a US Prosecutor handling this, I'm not going to give her immunity.
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Pat
I'm not going to give her immunity.
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Adam
No, And I'll tell you. I'll tell you why Tommy said it. It's like, wait a minute, wait a minute. So do we believe the conspiracy, that there's a lot of powerful people and that if you gave up names and got immunity at your first trial, that your life would be in danger afterwards? Right. The same thing people are saying about Diddy. When Diddy gets out, people are going to die. People are saying that social media is all over that, and there's people that are saying, I wonder what's going to happen to these witnesses. So now you've got that. You say, well, I couldn't. So my question is, okay, well, what changed? What changed from a couple years ago where, oh, if I gave up names, my life would be in danger. Okay, well, what's the difference then versus now? You give up a couple names for immunity? Is your life still in danger? Did they pass away? Are you no longer concerned about that? So the whole immunity thing really stinks for me because you should have cut your deal at the beginning. And let me tell you, if you know anything about the prosecutor, prosecutorial, you know, efforts of the FBI and things, they settle more than they go to trial.
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Pat
Okay, Tom, do me.
- [64:29]
Adam
And what they do is they settle because you take a plea, you take.
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Pat
The time, you turn someone else, negotiate with me. You're the government. I'm representing her. Okay. I'm going to understand if Sammy the Bull was involved in the murder of 19 different people. His lawyer was able to negotiate that. You're gonna do a surgery on my face so people will not recognize my face. You're gonna give me protection. Nothing's gonna happen to Me, I will rat. I will tell you anything and everything you want with all the other mobsters and what happened. But you gotta give me full on protection. In exchange, I'll talk. They gave it to him. Okay. And the government got those. The information to go and do what they wanted to do, right? In a situation like this, what would you ask me? I'm Jelaine. I'm her lawyer. What do you want from us?
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Adam
What do I want? I'm the US government.
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Pat
You're the US government lawyer. Negotiate with me.
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Adam
Say, listen, do you want a partially reduced sentence for cooperation? Because I'll give you that. But I'm not gonna give you immunity from further charges if you self incriminate. I can't do that. No one's gonna do that. No one said. We already have you. You're a skin on our wall. You're already in prison.
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Pat
Then I'm not talking.
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Adam
Okay, don't talk. Then why did you bring this up?
- [65:37]
Pat
No, you guys are interested? No, no, wait a minute. You brought it to me. I didn't ask it. You brought it to me. You're asking me? I'm not asking you for it. You guys came to me saying that. Now you want to find out what happened and you want me to talk to the doj.
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Adam
Did the feds went to her?
- [65:50]
Pat
Yes, they did. Yes.
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Tommy Lauren
Yeah.
- [65:53]
Producer
Can I be a lawyer with Tom?
- [65:54]
Pat
Can you be a lawyer? But I want you to have his position.
- [65:58]
Producer
Oh, no, I do understand. He doesn't want any amusement.
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Pat
Immunity.
- [66:00]
Producer
You don't want zero immunity.
- [66:01]
Pat
I want zero immunity.
- [66:03]
Producer
Okay.
- [66:03]
Vinnie
Ready for this?
- [66:04]
Producer
If you want. Because he wanted to give you half the time, I'll give you immunity.
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Pat
Okay, but when you're.
- [66:09]
Producer
But we're not giving you the questions in advance so you could practice and get ready. Number one, full immunity. And we'll give you some protection. You are going to be in front of a camera, the post. We're going to ask you everything to quell all this conspiracy crap with everything you have to be connected to a lie detector. I have to know live if you're full of or you're telling the truth.
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Tommy Lauren
But is that admissible in court?
- [66:28]
Producer
Is that not in a deposition for us to see? No, she doesn't. We want to be in court. She's going to be outside. We'll take her out of the jail. We want you hooked up so we know that you're not lying.
- [66:36]
Pat
Tommy, I'll come to you. What do you want? If you're representing the government, what do you want from this from this conversation with Jelaine in return, what are you trying to find out?
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Tommy Lauren
I think they want names, but it's hard for me to believe that they don't already have names. I'd also say this. We know how this would go down. Whether they cut a deal with her or not. It's Trump's doj, so they're going to say, regardless, oh, well, we cut it. Trump's DOJ cut a deal with her, so of course she's not going to say Trump. So even if she doesn't say Trump, they're going to say, well, she didn't say Trump because Trump's DOJ gave her a deal. So it doesn't. The media is going to. It all comes back to, nobody's ever going to give this up, that wants to go after Trump for it. They're never going to give it up. You can talk to this woman till the cows come home. It does not matter. They're going to say, well, she's not saying anything because Trump's cutting her deal. Doesn't matter. I say leave her ass in there for 20 years. Epstein is dead. The DOJ. You really messed up with those influencers on the step with those stupid binders. Made a mockery of traffic victims, and that was stupid, and you should apologize for that, and you should be as transparent as you possibly can. But you're not getting anything out of this woman.
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Pat
You don't think you are.
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Tommy Lauren
No. And it doesn't. Even if you did, they would still say, well, you've made her deal. And so she. They are going to always think that a backroom, backroom deal was cut so that people were spared.
- [67:54]
Adam
The liberal media will do it this way. Says, well, he didn't pardon her from his desk. He pardoned her through the Justice Department.
- [68:03]
Tommy Lauren
Exactly what I just said. Yeah.
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Pat
Yep. So with the media, is there anything you could do? First of all, screw the media. What they're gonna say, let's forget about the media and the podcasters and the influencers, Whatever. They don't matter. What I'm asking you right now is the. The people that voted you in that this is something they were interested in, and let's actually solve for the truth if we want the truth. Do you think there's any way you can structure this to get the truth from Ghislaine Maxwell?
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Producer
If there's no lie detector test, no, you're not going to get the. How are you going to take her word and she made a good point, Then it's going to be I would hook her up to lie detector test Pat and ask three major questions. Was Donald Trump a customer with. With Jeffrey fc?
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Pat
No.
- [68:44]
Producer
Perfect. Then get to the big names. Was Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, any of these people? Because we need somebody. Give us one person. That's what, that's not going to shut us up. It will quell us for a little while. Get the major questions. Who are the big names? That list that everybody talks about. Hook her ass up. Name, name, name. No. Yes. The danger, it's easy.
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Adam
The danger in this is you give her immunity. And she said, yeah, there was this congressional candidate in Georgia, Fred. And that's all I recall.
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Pat
Bingo.
- [69:15]
Producer
Yeah.
- [69:15]
Pat
Okay.
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Adam
And I got immunity for nothing.
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Vinnie
So Vinnie, you want names? That's what it comes down.
- [69:19]
Producer
I think the majority of the people that are out there that are even watching this, a thousand percent. Cuz I want the accountability. That's it. I've been saying this for freaking six months. Accountability. Give us one at least.
- [69:30]
Vinnie
Let me ask you one simple question. I know Pat probably wants to move on. What happens if she Lie detector test. There it is. She's like, look, it was all just me and Jeffrey, all these other people.
- [69:40]
Producer
Adam, good for then. Good.
- [69:41]
Vinnie
Would you be happy with that? Would you accept her answ if she passed? She's like, look, Bill Clinton never.
- [69:46]
Producer
If she passes the lie detective test on everybody, then I'll be like, okay, she, she, she did her. By the way, we made the deal, okay? We made the deal. We're truth. Adam, I would bet my life it's not just her and Jeffrey Epstein. I want to know who was behind it. Was, was it Mossad or CIA? That's the third question. Who, who was behind all those cameras and where's all the footage?
- [70:07]
Pat
Who has.
- [70:08]
Vinnie
She's like, there was none of that.
- [70:09]
Producer
Guess what then if there's no crime move.
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Pat
By the way, let me ask you a question. This Michael Wolfe who has how many hours of footage?
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Producer
I think 100.
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Pat
And then Steve Bannon's got 14 to 16. So the Michael Wolf has 100 hours where he reveals a lot of things that no one's wanting to buy from him. Right? How much is he asking for? Do we know a number of what he's asking for? How much money is he willing to sell that for? And how are we going to know if we're going to get the whole footage without him editing a couple parts of it?
- [70:35]
Producer
My friend Allan's been talking about this for freaking weeks about this.
- [70:38]
Pat
So that's one question I'm hearing. He's got 100 hours. One minute. No, this isn't it. Rob, how many total hours is.
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Adam
That's a jailhouse.
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Pat
Yeah, that's a jailhouse. Yeah. I'm asking how many hours. And then you got. Bannon's got 14 to 15 hours. 15 to 16 hours, which. That one, apparently Michael Wolf, when he sat down with Epstein, Epstein told him that the 15 to 16 hours with Bannon is Bannon prepping Epstein for media training. That's what apparently Michael Wolf claims that Epstein told him. But he says Epstein said a lot of things about Trump and his friendship in the video. In the 100 hours, if the number is right, I would buy the 100 hours just to watch it myself. I got 100 hours of watching Jeffrey Epstein. I would pay $100 million just to watch it myself. 100 hours just to watch it myself and see how much. Has he put a price on it or.
- [71:25]
Vinnie
No, I can't find anything on a.
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Adam
Price, but I can confirm 100 hours of recorded interviews with Epstein, primarily during 2017.
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Pat
Can you. Can you ask? Ask. Has Michael Wolff asked for how much money for the hundred hours? How much money does Michael Wolf want for the 100 hours of Epstein footage?
- [71:42]
Vinnie
Let's play Make a Deal.
- [71:44]
Pat
What is the number? I'm curious, Rob. Have we invited Michael Wolf at all to be on the podcast?
- [71:50]
Adam
We're in touch with this book publisher right now.
- [71:52]
Pat
Okay, all right, well, let's see what happens there. Okay. All right, well, listen, nothing yet. He said people have made offers. Apparently he wants life changing money. By the way, no one's going to care about this in about a year or two, because how long it's going to take to come back up, the peak is going to be now. If he's interested, maybe he's got an interested buyer here. If the number makes sense, if it's out of control, ridiculous, we're moving on. But I would just want to watch 100 Hours myself for shits and giggles, to see what that could be.
- [72:27]
Vinnie
Your new Squid Games pvd.
- [72:29]
Pat
Oh, that. Squid Games is something else. Whoever came up with that, they have mental issues. That is. That is a very weird. You completely threw me off with that.
- [72:38]
Vinnie
So you just said something very important. You think that this story with Epstein is here today, gone tomorrow, and a year from now.
- [72:43]
Pat
Unless. Because who's going to be the Next President? What's J.D. vance linked?
- [72:48]
Vinnie
Trump again? No, no.
- [72:49]
Pat
What's J.D. vance Linked to Epstein? What's the chances Hillary's gonna. What's the chance someone's gonna Be getting elected. That is tied to Epstein. They're all gonna be in their 40s and 50s. Are we gonna get a 78 year old president who's a 78 year old candidate right now? Nancy Pelosi is gonna run. Who's gonna run? Mitch McConnell's gonna run. Bernie Sanders, everybody that's running in 2020. Can you go to the 2020?
- [73:11]
Vinnie
Joe Biden's gonna run it back.
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Pat
Matter of fact, crush if you go to Hunter Biden. The remix. The list of 2028. The list of 2028 presidential hopeful. Okay, so this is who? Hawaii D.C. news. That guy needs to shave.
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Producer
Yeah, he does.
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Pat
By the way, did you see Kristen? What was that? Cnn. Kristen something's name.
- [73:31]
Vinnie
Kristen Welker.
- [73:32]
Pat
Those eyebrows are messed.
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Producer
No, Caitlyn Caterpillars. They look like two caterpillars fighting to get to her ear.
- [73:39]
Vinnie
Listen, guys, let's not body shape.
- [73:44]
Pat
Guys. I can say that I'm Middle Eastern.
- [73:47]
Producer
I gotta trim these things every week.
- [73:49]
Pat
Rob, can you go back?
- [73:51]
Adam
Such a good teleprompter reader, boy.
- [73:53]
Pat
Best ever. She's. Rob, can you. Do we have any names? I've seen what I thought.
- [73:58]
Producer
They just came up.
- [73:59]
Pat
Holly Market names.
- [74:01]
Producer
J.D.
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Vinnie
Was number one.
- [74:02]
Pat
How old is he? In his 40s.
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Tommy Lauren
Yeah.
- [74:04]
Pat
Okay.
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Tommy Lauren
There's nobody.
- [74:05]
Pat
There's nobody.
- [74:06]
Tommy Lauren
And then.
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Pat
Yeah, I think after 2028, I'm telling you, it's like, like you know, what's his name? Kaiser Sose. Boom. All of a sudden he disappeared and he's gone.
- [74:16]
Vinnie
But the greatest trick that they never ever pulled was convinced you didn't exist.
- [74:19]
Pat
This is it. So Michael Wolf only has like a couple month window of having people that are truly interested in that or else it is gone. Michael, buyers. Here's a buyer talking to you.
- [74:30]
Vinnie
Michael, don't fall for it. He's trying to get you a low ball price.
- [74:33]
Pat
I am.
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Vinnie
You hold up.
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Pat
I don't know. I'm telling you right now.
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Tommy Lauren
Not.
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Pat
I'm not paying a lot. But I don't want you to pay anything. Cash. I'll pay you some. I want to see that 100 hours.
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Vinnie
But it give you 100 bucks right now.
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Pat
You better have. If it's 100 hours of Epstein, I would. I would buy that and have the team monitor, take notes, everything. Study it and go to the main 82 parts of the 100 hours.
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Vinnie
I'll talk to my friends at the massage.
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Producer
We'll get you go Adam. Make the tattoo I got you finally.
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Pat
Get to the next story. I'm going to get to the next story. Next, next story, next story, next story. All right, next story I want to get to is. I want to go to that one. Let's go to this one here. The Fed holds rates steady for the fifth time this year, but some officials think it's the wrong call. Okay, so this is President Trump's best friend for the last week. They've been kicking it together, all right? They've been looking at properties of spending $3.1 billion on it, patting each other in the back hard. You know, finally, we saw a little bit of Powell's personality by putting his tongue out. Did you see when he, when he did the. Did you see when he did that or. No. Very awkward. But you can, you saw the child side of him. He acted like a 12 year old. It was interesting. First time ever. Here's Powell giving some good news to nobody.
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Vinnie
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Vinnie
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Vinnie
Not all meals are created equal. For instance, breakfast has the spicy egg McMuffin for a limited time and lunch does McDonald's breakfast comes first.
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Adam
My colleagues and I remain squarely focused on.
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Pat
Not your colleagues, just say you goals.
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Adam
Of maximum employment and stable prices for the benefit of the American people. Despite heightened uncertainty, the economy is still.
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Producer
In a solid position.
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Adam
The unemployment rate remains remains low and the labor market is at or near maximum employment. Inflation has come down a great deal, but has been running somewhat above our 2% longer run objective. In support of our goals today, the Federal Open Market Committee decided to Leave our policy interest rate unchanged. The risks of higher unemployment and higher inflation appear to have risen. And we believe that the current stance of monetary policy leaves us well positioned to respond in a timely way to potential economic developments.
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Pat
Okay, so listen, I'm not an economist.
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Producer
By a long shot. Yeah, but he just said, we are kicking ass. Everything looks good, but you never know, shit might hit the fan. So to hell with all of you. Is that a right angle?
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Pat
You know, a part of me is so happy he's not lowering interest rates.
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Producer
Why?
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Pat
Do you know why?
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Producer
Why? Okay, but was I right for my assessment of what he just said?
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Pat
Listen, he could have said this in five seconds. We are not lowering.
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Producer
Peace out. Slap somebody in the back.
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Pat
Yeah, and maybe he could have added, screw you, Trump. Like something like that. Right? Which is really what he wants. Orange Man. But, you know, a part of me hopes he holds out for the rest of the year.
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Producer
Why?
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Pat
Let me tell you why. Because to me, I would love to. For rates to not be lower till 2026. Why? Because I believe 2026 is going to be the greatest year of our lifetime.
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Producer
Really?
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Pat
I'm telling you.
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Producer
Okay.
- [78:46]
Pat
U.S. 250 birthday. Yep. Trump turns 80. Yeah. World Cup's coming here.
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Producer
Holy moly.
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Pat
And someone's gonna have to keep lowering interest rates. Market's gonna go, bam. Oh, wow. Money's gonna be made in every way. Dow record, every day. SMP record, Dow record, NASDAQ record. Record. Bitcoin record. It's going to be all of that whole. Powell, keep it going, buddy. Keep doing what you're doing, because by 26, someone's going to lower the rates, and when they do, it's going to be boom, like this. The day the announcements made, when they lower the rates, market's going to skyrocket. I just hope it's not till 2026. And by the way, to my real estate friends, don't come slashing my tires. Don't come protesting outside of our office. I'm telling you right now. And no, I'm not buying a house right now from you. Okay? So don't call me. All I'm telling you is I want the story, and I think the story for 2026 is going to be awesome. Powell, keep it going, buddy, please. Tom, your thoughts on this, and then, Tommy, I'll come to you.
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Adam
Well, what was really funny.
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Vinnie
I was.
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Adam
Talking to somebody and watching it live yesterday, and I immediately tweeted out as soon as I heard him say that, and I turned to the person that was in my office And I said, did you hear that? Did you hear that click? What's that? The minute he said, rate stable, I heard a click. You know what it was? Trump hit caps lock. I said, stand by. We're gonna get tweets overnight. But what's interesting, did he.
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Pat
Did he actually tweet about it or.
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Adam
No, I have not seen.
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Tommy Lauren
Yeah, he truth socialed this morning.
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Pat
He did?
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Tommy Lauren
Yeah.
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Pat
Okay.
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Tommy Lauren
An idiot and a moron.
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Producer
Was it in all caps?
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Adam
Stand by, Tommy.
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Producer
Was it all caps?
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Tommy Lauren
There were some caps in it. Yeah.
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Pat
It was true.
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Tommy Lauren
True social this morning.
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Producer
Oh, there he is.
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Adam
He is too late.
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Vinnie
Oh, there.
- [80:38]
Adam
There we go.
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Pat
Stupid.
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Adam
So I was prepping for podcast and I didn't see that one first. First thing in the morning.
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Tommy Lauren
Too angry, too stupid, and too political.
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Adam
All caps. So I was right. So what's. What's very interesting is there were some people out there that felt there should have been a cut. Now, most notably folks at Schwab. Schwab published a paper yesterday that said, look, the pace of consumer spending has slowed, job openings have slowed, and we are seeing bulk layoffs. Microsoft said that we're have a reconstitution. We're reconstitutioning our workforce with AI. 9,000 people were laid off. I believe it's three weeks ago with Microsoft. So Schwab was saying, you know, there's data out there that says that perhaps the. The economy could use it right now. And what was interesting, there were two dissenters, one more prominent than the other. The two dissenters that said they disagreed, that they thought a quarter point now were on the. On the Fed committee, and it was Christopher Waller and Michelle Bowman. Now, Michelle Bowman is more significant. You know why? Because Christopher Waller is known and has been leaking and speaking to friends, allegedly. And Christopher, I'm sorry, I'm not trying to upset you, but your name's been put in the hat by proxies and people around you. You'd like to be the next chair of the Fed. And we all know why, because you're serving us very, very well as part of the Fed. You're a smart person and you're like, hey, I'd like that next job. That's completely normal. So people kind of discounted Waller. Well, Waller's trying to do that to lean with Trump. Now, who knows if that's the case or Waller just really believes the economy could use a quarter point cut. Perhaps. But Michelle Bowman, to come out and say, hey, I do think the economy is ready for a quarter point point cut. I thought that was very significant. And the CME Fed Watch tool, which I watch a lot and I also keep my eye on what's called the dot plot. And for those of you scoring at home, these are just tools for people are monitoring the Fed and I do it and talk about it so you don't have to. The Fed Watch tool says we have a 68% chance now of a 25 basis point cut in September and another 65% chance of a 25% cut in December. And the dot plot is going to be updated right now. I think it's stuck on its May update. That's where it is. And then. Yep. And now CME has got a couple different audiences that it tracks and there's an audience that Rob just put up that thinks there's a 60% chance. So that's what's going on now. People talk about mortgages a lot. Affordability in housing is tied to the price of that house because the price you pay dictates the property tax. And property taxes have gone way up for consumers since 2021, 22 because the price of the house went up then to ensure that your homeowner's insurance goes up because you're insuring a more valuable property. But people are forgetting. So interest rates can help unthaw the market. But you also have the Trump budget needs these rates to come down for the interest on the debt, which is in the Trump budget. Also, Kelly Loeffler has been doing a very good job at SBA with her team. She needs interest rates to come down because she's got money that she wants to loan out the small business now on more favorable rates with more favorable programs for small business America, and the Trump administration is trying to get that out. So for everybody that says, oh, biz doc, you go on and on like this. You did. The home values are making it expensive. Home values are part of affordability. I get it. Property taxes, insurance, I get it. But the interest rates is sort of the entry cost to get in there and that will help thought. But there's other things that are going on there that are very important to the administration that they want the rates to come down.
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Pat
What do you think about the story?
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Tommy Lauren
Well, I'll tell you this. I understand why President Trump is frustrated and I think he let it be known total loser and our country is paying the price. President Trump hates to see America in any way lose or what he feels is losing everything under his control. Is America winning right now economically? They said the tariffs were going to cause some kind of apocalypse that didn't happen. Real wages up, GDP up, things are looking good. They said when we started deporting illegal aliens that we weren't going to have a workforce and that everything was going to collapse. No one was going to pick the vegetables. Okay? That has yet to happen. Trump's instincts have been correct. This is the last thing where he's like, I got the big beautiful bill. I'm given no tax on tips, overtime, Social Security. Now I need this. This is the final piece of the puzzle, and it frustrates him. And I get it. I love your optimism about 2026, by the way. I think that's great. We can hold on till then, I think. But I understand Trump's frustration. And to your point, the small businesses that are like, things are looking good, we want to expand, we want to hire more, we're so excited right now. They're chomping at the bit to get going, and President Trump wants to see that for them. So it's frustrating for him, but I think it's a game of chicken. And Powell doesn't want to be the one who caves to Trump.
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Adam
Right. And costing our country trillions of dollars. That's the interest on the debt. That's part of the Trump budget.
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Pat
Yeah, Adam.
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Vinnie
So there's so much conversation about Trump being a dictator. Trump's an authoritarian and he's going to be a king. He can't even control his own appointed Fed chairman. Let's not forget about that. For all the people out there that think that Trump is just some authority authoritarian dictator, he can't even convince the person that he put in place as the Fed chairman to lower rates, even after calling him out, calling him a loser, calling him stupid, calling him too late, saying that he's the worst person for the job. This is why I love America. Because Jerome Powell will look at Trump and be like, yeah, I don't really care what you have to say, buddy. Actually respect that. I actually love that. Do I think that it's time to lower interest rates? Possibly. You know, The Fed has two what two main jobs to cool inflation, which is at 2.7%. Their target rate is 2%. And to keep America working and make sure that the unemployment basically stays where it is right now, don't look now, but America is doing pretty damn good. All the talk in the spring about America going into recession, that conversation's over. Stock markets at basic all time high. Bitcoin at all time high. GDP per capita. Incredible strong dollar, consumer confidence. The VIX is very low. The Fed fund rate right now is what is at four and a half percent, prime rates at seven and a half percent. The United States economy is the envy of the world. And I think Jerome Powell, as much as Trump hates him, kind of knows what he's doing. I just don't know if this is personal, political or if it's just straight economic. But we'll wait and see what happens in September, right?
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Pat
Yeah. I mean, look, to me, even though Tom is saying there's two more, the 65% chance September and bless you, and one more in December, I'm hoping it's just one instead of two. And the President has to realize he's going to be president for three and a half more years.
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Vinnie
Okay, closer to three years now, sir.
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Pat
I know, but it's still three years and five months. But he's going to be in there for nearly three and a half more years. Midterms are not till when, November. Okay. Imagine they, they do only one rate increase, rate cut in December, and then the market goes off in the year of midterms, record breaking. Guess what's going to happen with House? Guess what's going to happen with flipping some seats. I actually would like the momentum to not happen till we get closer to midterms. Truly, I like it to not happen till we get closer to. Because nobody, if you look at the market like, hey, man, 401ks up. Hey, my selling, hey, my bitcoin dude, I don't want to do anything. Let it keep rolling. I'm not going to say I'm a Republican, but we're going to say, quiet, we're going to, that's what's going to happen if the market's doing good. So he's got time. And keep in mind by then some of these tariff deals, because they're saying all the deals will be done except for what if you have the Lutnick clip, Rob, Trump's trade deals for the world will be done by Friday, but China will take longer is what Howard Lutnick said. Okay, so out of all the deals that we did, you know, you saw he just increased Brazil by 50% because of what's going on with Alexander de Moraz and Lula. You saw what he just did with India, 25%. They're saying it'll be done by Friday. But here's Lutnik on China. Go for it, Rob. Well, I think with respect to other countries, what's happened is many, many countries had made us okay offers to open the markets, you know, 50%, 30%. And then the president said, no, no, I want them open. And then they get up to 75%. The President said, I want it open. So now the price of a deal with the United States of America is black and white, completely open markets. He wants to make sure that Americans can sell their goods overseas. He's tired of all those years where it was unfair and asymmetric against us. He wants to right the wrong of the last 80 years of, of trade policy, and he wants to do it now. And that's what he's doing. So are there deals on the table for him to consider? Yes, but he knows that he could just set the rate and set the price and move on. And he said that over and over again. He, we put in front of him the deal. He sees the deal and he decides, do I want to do a deal with India or I don't. And that is up to him. We've done our job, they've made offers, but they generally, these companies, countries came to the table slowly from what President Trump was hoping for. But of course, from their perspective, no one's moved as fast as the world has moved with respect to Donald Trump, he has moved the world in a way that no one can imagine. He's done this in six months. This is amazing. And I am, as you can tell, I'm having the best time working for Donald Trump.
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Adam
We're out of time, but I. So you think it's more likely that.
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Pat
At, you know, musical chairs, people are looking around thinking no one wants to be last, do they?
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Adam
I mean, you think we're going to hear more? Well, China is going to be tough.
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Pat
We only got 30 seconds, but China is going to.
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Adam
Is going to be tougher.
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Pat
Yeah, China is their own thing. We have our own team working with China. They're their own thing. I'll leave the people who are working with China right now to give you a brief and on what they've accomplished and where they are, I'll leave it to them. But for the rest of the world, we're going to have things done by Friday, and Friday is not that far away. So you should expect, we said August 1st is the date that we're setting all these rates and they are off to the races after that. 24 hours. Tom, what do we know about this?
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Adam
Well, Howard Lutnick is not going to go and say something like that on cnbc, because CNBC is the direct line to the markets. Cnbc highly credible with the markets, and Wall street reacts very quickly to what happens there versus what Happens in other forms of interviews. Even though the market instantly reacts to most news, what Howard is talking about is he setting an expectation. China may take longer, but I think we took another step forward. That's what he wanted the markets to hear and everybody else. He wants to let them know that it's all done. But you've got everybody. That is the truth. And Howard's not gonna put himself out that 24 hours later he's proven wrong. Because six countries go sideways on us. They're not going sideways. The closer it gets to the deadline, the more they're realizing this is serious, this is real. And it's like what he said, we'll give you 50%, we'll give you 75% open. He's like, no, open up. So we both can trade back and forth asymmetrical. And you still got, you know, business media out there. I mean Barron's article in Barron's was like, well, you know, what if this happens? What if that happens? And the writer from Barron's actually said and the Fed could raise rates a quarter point. Just trying to create this fear mongering in there. And it just. I was reading this article and I said this is freaking Barons. And it was like Q Kid Rock in my head. And we were trying different things. We were smoking funny things, drinking whiskey from the bottle. Don't care about tomorrow. That's what it felt like reading. This is the business. Certain part of the business meeting are cheering against.
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Pat
They are so speechless that this is Kramer's reaction dropping an F bomb on how great the economy is doing. Watch this just now we. Our biggest problem is we have so.
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Producer
Much growth that the Fed won't cut.
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Adam
What the Jesus Christ.
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Pat
Oh my. Oh my God. Jim.
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Vinnie
Cr.
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Adam
In the moment.
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Vinnie
It's cable with a cable with a ticker as would say.
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Pat
I take that back. That's right.
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Producer
People doing take it back.
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Pat
The most notable change I think I'm at Goldman time.
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Adam
The most notable to say one no.
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Pat
I just feel like enough with the economy's booming. Let Carl talk now.
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Adam
Goldman today most notable change since the June Fed meeting.
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Producer
I think I take it back. It's too late.
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Pat
Roads gone and the economy is booming. So Tommy, what thoughts do you have on this?
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Tommy Lauren
My thoughts are this reminds me of 2017 when they said Trump was going to crash everything and then things went really, really well up until Covid and Now he's back 2.0. He's got the right people around him this time. He's executing quickly. And I mean day one Executing. And his instincts, to my earlier point, are usually right. Especially on the economy. These trade deals, everyone panicked, everyone freaked out. Even conservatives freaked out. Oh, I don't know if this is the right thing. And there's so much uncertainty and people are losing everything. And then it's like, just trust the process. President Trump looked at our trade deals and he said, this feels lopsided to me and I'm the only one that's gonna do it. Nobody else is gonna have the balls to do it. So I'm gonna do it. This is my second administration, now or never. And I believe it. Trust the process. And everyone freaked out. And guess what? We trust the process. And here we are. Same thing with what a month ago when they said, oh, he bombed Iran and it's going to be World War Three and Trump starting new wars. And what happened? Nothing that we know of yet. So trust the instincts of President Trump, especially on the economy. He knows what he's doing here.
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Pat
I think that's a good point. If you voted for him, if you're somebody that's a true voter of him, you got to trust the instincts. If you're somebody that is the first time you voted for him, you're kind of like, why I don't want to vote for Kamala. I want to. Maybe you can be a little bit more skeptical, but the people that truly did you got to know the you can debate.
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Tommy Lauren
You can have the argument right now, by the way.
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Pat
There's no question about that.
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Tommy Lauren
I mean, can we just imagine right now, let's just take ourselves to a world where Kamala Harris is the president right now. What would things look like the greatest.
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Pat
Fundraiser of all time. Him make sure give her problem.
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Vinnie
Everyone would be gay.
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Producer
Can I ask a question, though?
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Adam
So alcohol stocks would be up.
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Producer
Everything like, I mean Trump is obviously kicking butt. We are like just Jerome Powell felt like he. It hurt for him to say everything is so and so it's going so great. Like I, I fear that the next if God forbid, the Republicans don't win again and they have somebody else come in like Kamala's finished. But somebody like that, they're going to try to undo every single thing that this guy has been doing for the past. Once we hit the four year mark, I mean the board, the. What do you think the first thing the Democrats are going to do about the border, like Tommy, that scares the hell out of me because. And obviously we want to keep, you know, the momentum going and everything like that. That's the first thing they're going to do is open the border, number one, without a doubt, open the border. And then number two, they're going to cave to China, they're going to cave to all these people, and we're going to go back to where we were. But that's.
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Tommy Lauren
Even Biden didn't want to completely undo some of Trump. Trump's trade work.
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Pat
That's right.
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Tommy Lauren
Even he was like, I will say this, though, I agree with you on that point. However, when Trump did great things during his first term, their excuse was, well, that was actually Obama. It just took a while. Yeah, okay. And then you had four years of Biden where everything royally sucked. And then they're like, well, that's cause of Trump. It just took a while to set in. Now you got Trump again. So you go to a Democrat, God forbid, in 2028, what are they gonna say? Okay, just like when the Democrats put out that chart that they thought was so funny last week and it was under Biden, it's like the prices go under Biden and then they had to delete that. How do you go from things going well under Trump? 1, then it's crap. Then it's good, then it's crap. How do you keep lying to people that the Democrats are not the problem, even with the border? Because people were really pissed about the border. And I agree with you. They're going to try to open it up again.
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Producer
Sure.
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Tommy Lauren
But do you know how bad that's going to look if they really try to do that again?
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Producer
But, but, but, but, but you know what? The majority of the left, the Democrats, that's what they want.
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Pat
Want.
- [97:08]
Producer
They're, they're over there. They're over there fighting ICE agents. I saw some Karen in, in California, she was literally like, leave them alone and trying to take off their mask. And it's like, they're insane. And I'm telling you, half that country, half the country would be like, yeah, no, we want it wide open because we love, we love immigrants. It's the country of, of, of immigrants. Trust me, they, they're gonna try to do that. And so it's a, it's literally a fight for the nation. It's literally. We cannot let these people get back in power. We can't.
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Vinnie
To me, back to this trade thing. If there's one word that Donald Trump stands for, it is fairness. If you notice the one thing he's always complaining about, they're treating me very unfairly. It's not fair. They're trying to do this. They're trying to do that. That's why he's so against dei, because it's not fair. That's why he believes in Mei, because it's actually fair. It's equality, not equity. So everything that he does with this trade, is it fair trade, is it free trade? Basically, he believes that America has been. Been taken advantage of for decades. And that's the fault of our leaders, it's the fault of our politicians, and they've carved out the middle class, they've carved out manufacturing in this world. And now the average American is like, what the hell's going on here? It's kind of like, you know, we're going to go to Vegas soon. The Vegas. They used to give everybody that, say they're the free buffet. Yeah, you go get the buffet. Get the buffet. And what happens is this. Oh, it's the free buffet.
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Pat
All right.
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Vinnie
I'm gonna go get a second, a third. Let me go get a plate and bring it up to my room for my family. All of a sudden, all my kids are eating for free, and the buffet is basically being ransacked and rummaged through. And the buffet in the casino is being treated very unfairly. Trump's basically saying, listen, there's no more free buffets. All you countries can't come in here and throw your products here. And then we can't even eat at all at your restaurant, in your casino. You're making us pay. The. The buffet line is closed, and all your kids aren't eating for free.
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Pat
How many times you're gonna have to pay buffet? I mean, I know it's getting close to lunch. Like, you're. I'm a little hungry. I get it. We'll feed you. Somebody get out.
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Vinnie
But it's. But do you agree that Trump believes in fairness?
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Pat
Yes, but he.
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Tommy Lauren
Equalizing is the word he said he made up, which I don't.
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Vinnie
Equalizing. I've never heard that equalizing until Trump. Well, no, he's great equalizer.
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Pat
He's also a. He's also a hardcore negotiator. So I don't know if his deals that he's doing. He is about fairness. I agree. But he's also pushing the agenda in a major way for America to have. Have a bit of an upper hand. This is the first guy in a long time that's using the leverage the way he has, and he's filled the administration with business people, business people who pay attention to numbers, data, profit, loss, leverage. You look at the world in a completely different way. By the way, I'm Going to get to the next story. California. I got some good news for you and some disappointing story. One of the stories I would have never gone to. I'm also uncomfortable going about the story, but it's because it's. It's because of Glendale, people in Glendale. I'm a little bit disappointed with the friends in Glendale. It's going to be uncomfortable reading, especially with Tommy being here. Forgive me, Tommy. In advance for this story, but let's start off with the first one. First good news, California. We just got good news from Kamala Harris that she will not be running for governor in your state. I know a lot of people are emotional. I know this is tough for you, California.
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Producer
I have family there.
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Pat
But this is what she had to say. Over the past six months, I've spent time reflecting on this moment of our nation's history. The best way for me to contribute, fighting for the American people and advancing the values and ideals I hold dear. I'm a devout public servant, and from the earliest days of my careers, I believe that the best way to. I could make a difference in people's lives and fight for better future was to improve the system from within. And it has become profound honor to do that and serve the people. In recent months, I've given serious consideration for people in California. Governor, I love this state. It's been. It's the people. It's promised. It's my home. But with deepest reflection, I've decided I will not be running for governor in this election. Okay. Now, whether she wrote this, her staff wrote it, or chat.
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Tommy Lauren
Somebody started a sentence with. And so right there, as somebody who's.
- [101:13]
Pat
Like, oh, by the way, that's chat gbt. No, no, no. Look at that right there. That nation and the side. Yeah. Chat GBT wrote it.
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Producer
Chat gbt.
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Pat
You know, that's what you look for. Yep.
- [101:21]
Producer
A little hyphens.
- [101:22]
Pat
Rob, can you do me a favor? Copy paste. No, it is, though. That's Chad G. Only Chad GPT does that.
- [101:31]
Producer
Yeah.
- [101:32]
Pat
Are you kidding me?
- [101:33]
Tommy Lauren
Yeah.
- [101:33]
Pat
Do me a favor, Rob. Put this thing in chat GBT and say Chad gbt. Did you write this, by the way?
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Adam
Grammarically, that's called the M. An extended.
- [101:40]
Producer
Hyphen is an micro. You could have done it anywhere. But let's see if it's chat gbt.
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Pat
Because a lot of maybe say, did you. Or grok. She would use chatgpt or any vibe. She's a chat.
- [101:53]
Tommy Lauren
This woman is so lazy.
- [101:55]
Producer
She is.
- [101:56]
Tommy Lauren
She is so lazy and entitled.
- [101:59]
Pat
Was this written by you or.
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Adam
Yeah, I think you mispronounce pickled.
- [102:04]
Pat
So let's see this here. Hang on. By the way, that one hyphen that's in there. You are that lazy to not to look for deleting that. That AI's like, do I do it? No. Chad, GPT is going to say no. I'll put chat GBT because after this, then ask afterwards. Did you write this?
- [102:21]
Vinnie
Guys, I won't sit here and just.
- [102:22]
Pat
Let you not take down my Kamala like this, guys. Okay?
- [102:25]
Vinnie
She's a capable.
- [102:26]
Pat
Why it's likely wasn't AI generated tone.
- [102:29]
Producer
Okay, look at the hyphen that they use in the.
- [102:33]
Vinnie
Possible.
- [102:34]
Pat
Ask back and say. But the hyphen between. Okay, can you go to exactly when that was used? Can you go back and you just copy paste that side. That sentence and just. Just copy paste that part that says that. It's not allowing you to do so.
- [102:49]
Vinnie
No, because it's an image. But I can rewrite it.
- [102:51]
Adam
Give me one second.
- [102:52]
Vinnie
I will.
- [102:52]
Pat
If you just type that in there. The hyphen is elongated in the statement. Isn't that a sign? It was written by ChatGPT specifically. Wow. If that's the case, this is great observation. You're referring to the EM dash, which is used multiple times. Common lahair statement. Let's break it down. Does that use the EM dash means? Not necessarily. The M dash is a company. We've never seen this before, ever. Why? People associate with them. Some people notice that.
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Producer
Chad.
- [103:25]
Pat
M dash. Okay, but there's no was that actually matters when using it. If you're trying to detect that. Wow. Listen, so we know that was written by Chad.
- [103:33]
Vinnie
Come on.
- [103:34]
Pat
Okay, so look, good news, bad news. It is what it is. I'm from Glendale, California. To my friends in Glendale, all the Armenian. All the friends. What is this all about, guys? What is this like? It's. I've read some uncomfortable stories. This one's extremely uncomfortable. He's got a. Is that a Wu Tang Klan shirt? What is he. What shirt is that?
- [103:52]
Vinnie
Listen, that ain't nothing.
- [103:53]
Pat
Play that clip with Rob. Play that clip. Loitering in the women's department in Nordstrom.
- [103:58]
Vinnie
Rack in the Burbank Empire Center.
- [103:59]
Pat
When they got there, the man was already gone, but he was soon spotted.
- [104:02]
Vinnie
Inside the nearby Walmart. Police say they watched him with his.
- [104:05]
Producer
Walmart surveillance cameras as he entered the women's clothing section.
- [104:09]
Vinnie
What?
- [104:09]
Pat
That's where police say they witnessed Crowder crouching near a woman and sniffing her. They arrested him.
- [104:15]
Producer
Excuse me.
- [104:15]
Vinnie
On charges of loitering with Intent to commit a crime.
- [104:18]
Pat
His bail set at $100,000. I don't even know what to say. Like, what do you think about the story? What is your analysis?
- [104:25]
Producer
Yeah, what the hell are you doing?
- [104:26]
Pat
The question is, what are you doing, buddy? Is this him?
- [104:30]
Vinnie
This is one of the victims.
- [104:31]
Adam
There's a victim explaining what happened, by the way.
- [104:33]
Pat
Let me ask you a question. So this is a serious question, Rob. Is this like one of those guys that in Walmart goes and hugs people and say, oh, what's up, Jenny? How you doing? I remember you're my high school teacher.
- [104:42]
Producer
No.
- [104:43]
Pat
So this is not a YouTube prankster?
- [104:44]
Producer
No, it's not a prankster. This is a freaking creep out in public knowing that there's cameras everywhere.
- [104:49]
Pat
Wow.
- [104:49]
Producer
Literally being a disgusting human being.
- [104:51]
Pat
Well, maybe he really is a dog dog.
- [104:54]
Vinnie
Like a dog is down.
- [104:55]
Producer
He is.
- [104:55]
Pat
No, no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying, like, I have two dogs. Guess what they do all day after.
- [105:00]
Vinnie
Yeah, it's just.
- [105:01]
Pat
Play this one here. No, this is.
- [105:03]
Producer
He pretends like he's doing. And he's huge.
- [105:06]
Vinnie
It felt like anywhere I moved.
- [105:07]
Pat
He kept following me, though. I recorded just in case he was trying to say anything or do anything to me.
- [105:12]
Vinnie
I definitely didn't expect him to do this.
- [105:15]
Tommy Lauren
Like, what the actual pretending to be, like, crouching down by a bookshelf and.
- [105:19]
Vinnie
Then coming behind me and smelling me.
- [105:21]
Tommy Lauren
And he does the same thing to another girl in the video as well. I was so freaked out when I turned around and saw him literally under me.
- [105:28]
Vinnie
So freaking close to me.
- [105:30]
Tommy Lauren
At least he's out there. His face is out there.
- [105:32]
Vinnie
So people can be.
- [105:33]
Pat
Four agreements. She's reading.
- [105:34]
Vinnie
Are you kidding?
- [105:35]
Producer
Oh, was it the four agreements and.
- [105:36]
Pat
The rans Is a four agreements? I believe so. Yeah. I mean, look, you guys. Insane to the people in Glendale. Seriously, guys, like, if I was hard.
- [105:43]
Producer
Call the cops. What are you recording?
- [105:44]
Vinnie
I get it together.
- [105:45]
Producer
Get the cops.
- [105:45]
Tommy Lauren
This is just because you have to get the content. That's what I think is an interesting part of it. If I had a creeper following me around, the last thing I would probably be doing is doing like a narrated tick tock about. There was this man behind me. Get ready with me today to go to the bookstore and watch this man.
- [105:59]
Producer
Yeah, yeah. Like, what are you doing? Hey, it's gonna be dangerous.
- [106:03]
Pat
I might actually get raped and then let him. You're like, he's doing it. Maybe she should also.
- [106:07]
Producer
Maybe she's a freak.
- [106:08]
Pat
Yeah.
- [106:09]
Producer
You know what? What are you doing?
- [106:10]
Vinnie
You know what?
- [106:11]
Adam
What?
- [106:12]
Vinnie
Exactly.
- [106:13]
Pat
Dude, that guy needs hair on the side of his head.
- [106:17]
Adam
Sniffing with intent to. I don't know.
- [106:19]
Producer
I don't even know what the hell.
- [106:20]
Adam
Is going a while you get these completely weird stories that come up. I remember being in college and I was in business law class and as a joke, the professor, and this is now seared into my brain since that time says had us read the case of Michael Kenyon at the University of Illinois, Champaign, Urbana. But he was another one of these freaks that would go out and do like incredibly weird stuff like this. And then there's this fascination with it because it's so weird. It's not like drunk jock rapes cheerleader, okay? Terrible, horrible, personal assault that happens from time to time. And then you get these weird things, you know, Serial sniffer. And it just. It just kind of.
- [107:03]
Tommy Lauren
I know one of those cereal sniffers.
- [107:08]
Vinnie
No, no.
- [107:08]
Producer
Oh, yeah. He loves sniffing.
- [107:10]
Vinnie
Sniffing kids heads though.
- [107:12]
Pat
Well, both father and son. One sniffs white powder.
- [107:18]
Vinnie
He also cooks it.
- [107:19]
Pat
It.
- [107:19]
Adam
Yeah. And Michael Kenyon at the University of. Of Illinois, Champaign, Urbana was known as the Illinois Enema Bandit. And so the hell, Tom.
- [107:29]
Pat
Well, listen to. Respectfully, to the President's credit, he's not butt sniffing, he's just sniffing. No, this dude took it to a whole different level. Okay? And anyways, I wanted to spend as little time on this story as possible. Okay? We're going to move on. Vinny, I know you want us to stay here for 30 minutes. I'm going to move on.
- [107:48]
Vinnie
But this is going on in Glendale, just to be sure.
- [107:50]
Pat
Heartbroken. Part of me is heartbroken. This is why many Armenians in the next five to 10 years will be moving to Boca Raton, Florida. Armenians watch. When I told you this. Five to 10 years, you're going to be 22 miles north from here and you're going to love it. And you're going to thank me for the rest of your life. Life. Okay? Only the job creating Armenians. Come here. Everybody else stay in Glendale, California. Enjoy it.
- [108:19]
Vinnie
Leave the butt snippers back in Glendale.
- [108:21]
Pat
All right, let's go to the next story. All right. Stephen Colbert left wing Slate show became therapy session for liberal study. Okay, shows. Let's go to the study here. Page 16. Okay. Don't show the numbers, Rob. I just want the audience to see this here to, to. To see what the reaction is going to be. Okay? So here's what's weird. A study by media watchdog Newsbusters found that since 2022 embattled funny man. Stephen Colbert. I don't find him funny, but apparently he's a funny man. The Late show hosted 176 left leaning guests and had only one Republican during that time. Do you know who the one Republican was? List changed.
- [109:07]
Producer
No. You're joking.
- [109:07]
Pat
Did you know this or no?
- [109:08]
Producer
That is hilarious.
- [109:09]
Pat
The one Republican is Liz. I'm not kidding with you.
- [109:12]
Producer
That is hilarious.
- [109:13]
Pat
This is the charts. Look at this. Seth Meyers zero conservatives. Noah zero, Corden zero. Colbert. Out of 176 liberals, only one conservative, Jimmy Campbell, 58 to 2. And I think the two. One of the guys was a pillow guy, if I'm not mistaken. Daily Show 157 to 9. 95% of guests are liberals. Fallon 41 2. All in all, 511 liberal guests to 14 conservative. 97% of the time they were on the other side. They're wondering, they're wondering why their show didn't do well. Ok, they're wondering. But is anybody surprised? What do you think about Tommy when you see a number like this of 176 left versus one to the right?
- [109:59]
Tommy Lauren
Same thing on the View. No conservatives. They have the one semi conservative that they beat up on on a daily basis. But of course she also hates Trump. So that's the qualifier there. So it's no surprise to me that people are not watching. I'm from the Midwest, I'm from South Dakota. People that watch these late night shows or watch these comedy shows, they're not really people who live in New York City or people who live in LA or even Chicago in big hubs, because those people at night, they're going out, they're, you know, they're socializing the people that are watching these shows. And the same thing with like the award shows used to be people kind of in the Midwest that they sit around with their family and they watch TV at night and it was kind of their entertainment for places that didn't have a hustling, bustling scene. But those people also happen to be more conservative and they happen to probably have voted for President Trump. So why would they want to watch this at night? They don't. They want to turn off the tv so they think this is some big conspiracy as Donald Trump is making these shows fail and flop. No, it's that you're no longer representing not only both views, but you're representing one view and the other half of the country and the majority of the country has a different view and they're not going to watch you because you're also not funny when you do it. So this isn't some big mystery here. It's pretty obvious these people do not know who their audience used to be and they'll probably never get them back.
- [111:23]
Pat
That's interesting because while you're saying what you're saying, your assistant just told Chad, one of our team members here, that Kamala Harris will be on Stephen Colbert tonight.
- [111:34]
Producer
You're joking.
- [111:35]
Pat
Just broke. Rob, can you check this? Rob, this was, this was just announced literally right now, of course. So that's now 177 1, 2, 1. Unless if she's going to announce tonight that she's going to become a Republican and flip parties. Kamala Harris set for first post election appearance on what show? The Stephen Colbert Show. That is so is anybody surprised? Anybody surprised with numbers like this? Adam, what are your thoughts on this?
- [112:03]
Vinnie
So there used to be an old saying in media when the central time zone. So we live in these, you know, silos of the California liberals and the New York liberals and everything on this going on the east coast bias and our ivory towers. But the true Americans live in the breadbasket. They live in South Dakota, they live in Nebraska, they live in Iowa, they live in the Midwest. And that phrase has been lost by the big media legacy companies. They will just double down on what I would call these late night confirmation bias, echo chambers group think tribalism mentalities siloed. And here's a living example of Stephen Colbert who just been canned. Not one conservative, not one conservative as appeared on their show and the one that did was Liz Cheney who's was spearheading the January six involvement with Trump. So it just. The number one thing to me is the Democratic Party is the party of dei, diversity, equity, inclusion. The whole concept of diversity is they want everyone to be diverse except for how you think.
- [113:14]
Tommy Lauren
You have to think diverse.
- [113:15]
Vinnie
Exactly.
- [113:16]
Tommy Lauren
Look diverse, not think diverse.
- [113:18]
Vinnie
Correct. And that's the biggest problem is that the number one type of diversity that you should be striving for is opinions, not how you look. And that's the biggest problem.
- [113:27]
Tommy Lauren
What do you think to that point? I want to say the Daily show actually had nine and that's better than most. I was on the Daily show with Trevor Noah. I believe to this day it might be one of the most streamed episodes of the Daily show online. And he wanted me on because guess what, it was good for ratings. Right. And he, he wanted to chop it up with me and it made for good TV and people enjoyed it and people watched it and people hated me for it and hated him. Secretly, because they had me on and oh, how dare you platform this person, whatever. But it was highly viewed. And Trevor Noah at that time, he understood, okay, Trump just won an election. This was back in the first Trump 1.0. Let's have somebody on that was a voice of kind of mega and thought that was going to be good tv. And it was. But the reason that the Colbert's in them and the View and whatever, and I was also on the View, that they don't want to have the conservatives on now. It's not because they won't get ratings and people won't watch. It's because they don't want to humanize or normalize conservatives. Because if you sit down and you're a liberal and you sit down and watch a conservative on one of these shows and you realize that they're actually funny or charismatic or they got some good ideas and they're not this boogeyman, then, oh no, you might change the way you vote. And they are not going to take that risk. They won't have them on. Not because people won't watch, because people will watch and they might change the way they vote and think. And that's dangerous.
- [114:45]
Vinnie
And you know, the most watered down word, I'm sure you've heard it before is racist. If somebody, if you were called racist 5, 10, 20 years ago, your career was done, being called racist now is just like, all right, cool, that's, it's meaningless at this point. It's lost its tooth.
- [115:02]
Tommy Lauren
Well, ad sales for American Eagle are racist now.
- [115:05]
Producer
Yeah. Sydney Sweeney, of course. And good, because I'm happy that they, she, because of that and all that, she's almost $300 million just for American Eagle. Did you guys see what Jay Leno said about the whole Colbert situation?
- [115:16]
Vinnie
What do you say, Rob?
- [115:17]
Producer
Why don't you play the clip? He says a little something about making fun of both sides. Check this out.
- [115:22]
Vinnie
There you go. I like to think that people come.
- [115:24]
Pat
To a comedy show to kind of get away from the things, you know, the pressures of life, wherever it might be. And I love political humor. I don't get me wrong. But it's just what happens with people wind up cozying too much to one side or the other. Why shoot for just half an audience all the time? You know, why not try to get the whole idea? I mean, I, I like to bring people into the big picture. I, I don't understand why you would alienate one particular group. It's, I like to think, to people.
- [115:52]
Producer
Yeah, it's very, very True. And it's like, guys, it didn't work. And I'm so freaking happy that people. I mean, it took a while. It took a while. We got Adam on our side. It takes a while. Everybody. It's like, it's like enough is enough and like that. That.
- [116:06]
Pat
Well, it's just, you know, it's not even enough is enough. I think the main thing, Vinnie, is it's a bad business model.
- [116:12]
Vinnie
Yeah.
- [116:12]
Pat
That's all it is. It's a bad business model. Guy says the other day he sends a tweet. This is why, you know, PBD podcast won't have Thomas Massie on. He won't have, you know, Whitney Webb back on. He won't have who? He said, these five, six. I'm like, okay, we've invited Whitney Webb multiple times.
- [116:30]
Vinnie
She's been on twice.
- [116:31]
Pat
She's been on two times.
- [116:32]
Producer
She doesn't live in the country.
- [116:32]
Pat
We invited Thomas Massie on 20 times. No, no, I want to. It doesn't come. We've. We've invited so many people on. We've invited Van Jones on. We exchanging messages. He's trying to find a time for his calendar to come on. We invited Don Lemonade. We've invited so many different people on. I will do a one on one or a. What do you call it, a home team like this. Preferably a one on one. The first time I sit down, I want to talk. We invited. Who was the guy that. On the Zoom? He did what he did. What was his name? We had. He almost started coming back on. We had so many enemies. We like having the Cuomo and I talked the other day. We're trying to get a date on the counter to come back on. We don't mind the conversations. We like the conversations. We like the banter, we like the discourse. It's just a bad business model for late night. By the way, you could do that as a podcast because podcasts talk to whoever you want to talk to. Actually, don't judge it. If you've done on a podcast, I would talk to people I want to talk to late night. The purpose of late night is to talk to the late night people that are sitting on the couch or the bed with their husband and wife and just want to sit there and laugh at everybody. And you go, one sided. Terrible, terrible business model that they have. Let's do a couple other stories in the next 16 minutes and let's wrap up. One of the ones I do want to talk about, which is very important, is aging. Okay? Aging and there's this age, guys, that, that really like is not good for you. Whatever you do, try to skip this age. Your body starts aging faster at this inflection point. There's only one person in this room that can tell us what it's like when you get past this age.
- [118:11]
Producer
I got it.
- [118:13]
Pat
It's earlier than you think. Okay, here's New York Post. Guys, I just want you to don't be offended by the story, Tom. Everybody else, we're just going to go through the story a little bit it and brace for impact on what it has to say. Vinnie, I know you're gonna be okay.
- [118:27]
Producer
My back hurts.
- [118:27]
Pat
All right. No, I'm just telling you. Chinese scientists.
- [118:36]
Producer
Do they work from Wuhan automatically? Don't trust Are they in the Wuhan.
- [118:41]
Pat
Lab, Chinese scientists analyzing 516 tissue samples from 76 organ donors. That's forced. Organ donors ages 14 to 68 found that protein level changes in the adrenal gland begin as early as 30. But the body hits an aging inflection around age 50.
- [119:04]
Vinnie
Damn.
- [119:05]
Pat
With blood vessels, particularly the aorta, being markedly susceptible to aging per the study temporal analysis reveals and aging. This is not me making this great words I love. Temporal analysis revealed an aging inflection around age 50 with blood vessels being a tissue that ages early. The study authors wrote the number of 48 protein length of diseases like cardiovascular disease and liver tumor became significantly more prominent as donor age increased. Tom, is this true? The Jack Welch Management Institute at Strayer University helps you go from I know the way to I've arrived with our top 10 ranked online MBA.
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Pat
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Vinnie
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Pat
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- [120:43]
Adam
Yes. And I'll tell you, you know, this is why you should go in for all your cancer screenings. And it's not a man thing, it's a male, female thing. If you're not Going in for uterine cancer screenings and prostate screenings. And set all the jokes aside about the process of that. You're being a fool, because after 50, your body does change. I still run, but I'll tell you, if I go for a big run, the soreness is there, you know, more than just the next morning. And so, you know, thank God for Advil. But these things also, you find out I got my plaque score. My plaque is low. I don't want my plaque to go further. And I respect the fact that it will take my body longer to recover. And you have just propensities about getting old. And what they're saying is, I can't comment on. Oh, my gosh. I realized this was happening at age 45 or 50. I didn't know it was happening that early. But is the notion that, hey, aging may be happening in little ways earlier than we think? Is that a crazy notion? And skip all the jokes about the Chinese scientists that did this. I don't think that's a crazy notion. And I see things in myself that I now monitor and I do things. That's why, as you know, I don't have any artificial sugars or anything in my coffee. There's a bunch of things that I do.
- [122:03]
Pat
You know, I met Tom the first time we went to. My pastor said, I want to introduce you to the smartest guy in the church. Okay. And this is a church of 20,000 members. Wow. And so we went to this restaurant called Black Angus. And we're in Topanga, California. We're at this restaurant. Tom speaks for 59 minutes. I speak for one minute. And all I said is, how you doing? Gone for an hour. Tom's just talking, and he said, have you ever done an executive test? So what's executive test? Executive health test. The executive physical. I said, I've never heard of it. I'm 28 years old. I don't know how old I am at the time. No. Yeah, probably 29, 30, or 28 years old. And he says, you gotta go take this test. So I said, okay, go to UCLA. Spend like five, 10,000 hours. And then from morning, 6:30am Till five in the afternoon, you go meet, like, 10 doctors. And they do everything on you. Plaque, heart, you run. Bones, cancer, eyes, everything. Okay. Mayo does this. They do it certain place. They do it here as well. I just did it last year with one of the local facilities.
- [123:07]
Adam
They give you a book. There's a baseline for everything.
- [123:10]
Pat
Literally, at the end of it, they sit you down and tell you every aspect of Your life, which this is for busy people that cannot go see nine doctors in nine weeks, that you just do it all in one day. It's a phenomenal system. Highly recommended. It gives you so many different things. And nowadays people can do blood work, and there's so many. You know, when the Gary Breakas go viral and the Paul Saladinos and these guys are talking, Joe Rogan talking about all these different ways to improve your health, people are more interested in it than ever before. But for somebody that is living a very busy life and you follow the content, you're a business owner, you're someone that's always going, always gone. Just go do one of those one day executive physicals. Get all of it done in one day. Since Tom told me, I've done it probably six times in the last 18 years, seven times in the last 18 years. And it saves you time, it gives you clarity, it makes you at peace. And if there's adjustments that you need to make, it helps you do that as well. But in this panel, we have a person that's in her 20s.
- [124:09]
Tommy Lauren
Okay, I'm 32.
- [124:10]
Pat
I'm just teasing you. You started 15, so I'm doing the math. You look like you're in your 20s. I figured you're 30, 31, but. Okay, so we have somebody here that is 47. 47 here.
- [124:22]
Vinnie
I'm about to be 41 of these days.
- [124:24]
Pat
He's. He's been saying this for five years. Yes. He's 45. So it's 45, 46, 47, 28, 59.
- [124:35]
Adam
You can say.
- [124:36]
Vinnie
And you still got it.
- [124:37]
Pat
Listen, Pat, I said this the other day. How good he looks at the. What do you call, cigar lounge.
- [124:41]
Vinnie
Listen, I'm not gonna just sit here and let you pick on my friend Tom.
- [124:45]
Pat
Yeah.
- [124:45]
Vinnie
Don't be an agent.
- [124:46]
Adam
No, that's your job.
- [124:48]
Vinnie
Exactly.
- [124:49]
Producer
Yeah. How dare.
- [124:49]
Vinnie
Stay in your lane.
- [124:50]
Pat
So I won't do that again. That is Tom and I.
- [124:52]
Vinnie
He just said his birthday, what, June 23rd.
- [124:54]
Adam
Exactly.
- [124:54]
Vinnie
We went to Miami, went to the club. We stayed out all night.
- [124:57]
Producer
Tom's a maniac.
- [124:58]
Vinnie
Killing it.
- [124:59]
Producer
I was a maniac.
- [125:00]
Pat
I came in today, I'm like, adam, have you lost some weight? He's not been lifting more. So why have you been lifting more? He says, well, you know, it's like, just. What'd you say, we're going to Vegas or what?
- [125:09]
Vinnie
Are we going to the vault? Baby, we got to look good.
- [125:11]
Pat
We got to look good for the vault.
- [125:12]
Vinnie
Listen, I will say this. I don't know if it's, you know, there's. There's people that say Trump is 79, Biden is 82. All right, there's. There's. Yeah, he's 80. He looks good for 80. Or he's doing well for 80. TRUMP and. No, in general, but yes, great.
- [125:27]
Pat
Yeah.
- [125:27]
Vinnie
But then Biden, dude, that guy's.
- [125:30]
Producer
He doesn't even know.
- [125:31]
Vinnie
He's got one foot on a banana peel, one foot in the grave.
- [125:33]
Pat
Tom's not 63.
- [125:34]
Vinnie
So that's my point, is it's not just age.
- [125:37]
Adam
It's.
- [125:37]
Vinnie
It's health. Age plus health equals life expectancy. You know, that's my business. Wow. People think. What was the last story we talked about where they, like, Trump could go any minute? Yeah, I don't think so.
- [125:47]
Pat
That was my.
- [125:48]
Vinnie
I don't think so. All right, so Trump's doing okay. Tom, you're doing okay.
- [125:52]
Pat
Have you done an executive physical? No. Have you done an executive physical?
- [125:55]
Vinnie
Yeah, I do it all the time.
- [125:56]
Pat
Okay.
- [125:56]
Vinnie
Once a year.
- [125:57]
Pat
Are you.
- [125:58]
Vinnie
I don't know if it's an executive physical.
- [126:00]
Producer
I get, like, the ghetto employee. They just put a thumb in his butt and they go, you're good. Wants, though.
- [126:06]
Vinnie
Can we just. Can we acknowledge the craziest thing? That Vinnie is older than you?
- [126:12]
Producer
Yeah, by a couple months.
- [126:14]
Vinnie
That's crazy to me.
- [126:14]
Pat
Are you trying to say, like, I look older than him?
- [126:17]
Vinnie
You look older. You act older, you sound older, you conduct yourself older.
- [126:20]
Pat
I mean, listen, shots at Tom. Now you're taking shots at me?
- [126:25]
Adam
Wow.
- [126:26]
Vinnie
No, No, I don't. I'm. I'm taking shots at Vinnie.
- [126:28]
Pat
Is that what you're doing?
- [126:29]
Vinnie
Yeah. Yeah.
- [126:31]
Pat
Well, listen, it is what it is, but the reality of it is very basic. Quote, proper preparation prevents poor performance. Don't be the person that's saying, I don't need to get a physical right now because sometimes it's too late.
- [126:43]
Vinnie
That's true.
- [126:44]
Pat
Go get your everything checked out. I'm at that age where that one procedure you're talking about, Tom, When I was 45, I went to the lady, she's like, would you like to do your. What is it called? What did you say? The. The. With a prostate test, Whatever they have to do to. You said, you can do it now or you can do it 50. I think I'll wait five more years. I'm not going to do. I'm going to go five more years. Really?
- [127:05]
Vinnie
I went to get my prostate done. It was a buy one, get one. So I went back the next day was great.
- [127:10]
Pat
Oh, good.
- [127:11]
Producer
Deal.
- [127:11]
Pat
Listen, we believe.
- [127:14]
Vinnie
Let's just admit we all look great. Especially one person who may or may not be dressed in pink. That's all I'm going to say. We all look great.
- [127:20]
Pat
Well, we appreciate your kindness.
- [127:22]
Producer
Yeah. You're a sweet guy, Adam. It's really.
- [127:24]
Pat
Let's go to the next story. Story.
- [127:25]
Vinnie
It's really my pleasure.
- [127:26]
Pat
So, Tommy, do you drink Starbucks? Do you like coffee?
- [127:29]
Tommy Lauren
Yeah, but I. I do it at home. I'm not. I'm not a. Let's waste money at Starbucks.
- [127:35]
Adam
Thank you very much.
- [127:36]
Pat
Okay.
- [127:36]
Adam
That's right.
- [127:37]
Pat
There it is.
- [127:37]
Tommy Lauren
My husband loves it though, like multiple times.
- [127:39]
Vinnie
Husband?
- [127:40]
Tommy Lauren
Yeah.
- [127:41]
Vinnie
What the. You have a husband? Guys, I'm out of here, man. This is what.
- [127:45]
Pat
But she said earlier she has a friend who is single. Okay, Jessica, she gave you.
- [127:52]
Vinnie
Hook it up with a.
- [127:53]
Pat
Hang on. So Starbucks reveals shocking earning in the latest report. Okay. Starbucks confirms. CEO confirms plans to close up 90 locations by the end of 2026. Right. Why don't you start off with that one? By the way, let me give you a reminder of who this guy is. He is one of the most sought out CEOs in America the last 15 years. This guy came into Chipotle when it was worth $7 billion. Six years later, after he left Chipotle as the CEO, Chipotle was worth $71 billion. Okay, that's Brian Nichol. He started off, I believe, as a CMO. Can you look, Rob, if he was a CMO of Domino's Pizza or another. Brian Nicole was a CMO of Domino'S Pizza or who was he the CMO of? It was one of the pizza. It was a CMO he used to know. He used to be a CMO of a pizza place. Go. If you go. If you can see pizza. Yeah, type in a pizza. He was with some pizza company before, like 12 years ago. There it is. A major pizza chain for Little Caesars.
- [128:59]
Producer
Pizza Pizza.
- [129:00]
Pat
Brian Nichols listens. No, he. I'm telling you, he was a pizza CMO at some kind of a pizza brand. Okay, yeah, Domino's was a Pizza Hut.
- [129:08]
Tommy Lauren
Pizza Hut.
- [129:08]
Pat
Okay, so he was a CMO at Pizza Hut.
- [129:10]
Tommy Lauren
Right.
- [129:11]
Pat
Okay. And then goes to Chipotle and then goes.
- [129:13]
Vinnie
This guy's been around the block.
- [129:14]
Pat
He's a stat. And here's Listen. Pizza Starbucks brought him in because Starbucks was having so many issues with the lazy CEO. They had that said, if you call me after 6 o', clock, you better have a plan. You don't call me after 6 o'. Clock. That was the former CMO who was a former, I think he was like a consultant at one of these consulting firms.
- [129:31]
Adam
Exactly, yeah.
- [129:32]
Pat
So anyways, spank that dude. This, this guy's legit, so he's a heavyweight. Go forward.
- [129:38]
Vinnie
This is him explaining why they're making the shift away from the 90 locations.
- [129:42]
Adam
That they have open and closing.
- [129:43]
Pat
Go for it.
- [129:44]
Adam
When I got here about 10 months ago, we said we were going to get going on this back to Starbucks strategy, which really is found first and foremost on resetting our operating platform. Unfortunately, I think there were some choices made before me that really set us back on our ability to create customer connection between our barista and customer and provide the type of customer service that the Starbucks brand frankly is known for and should be known for. And so that's really why we created the Green Apron service model. It's all around basic, basically providing the right labor in store so that our partners have the right amount of time to execute the tasks that they need to execute and then also be able to give the customer service and that connection to our customers that we want to provide. And also as a part of this, we had to bring some order to mobile order. We had to make sure that we were staffed and deployed correctly for the drive through. So, you know, look, I'm really proud of where we are and the fact that actually during our pilot across 1500 stores, we saw tremendous progress on both, you know, the order to mobile order, the ability to be deployed correctly, the ability to provide the right customer service experience, which gave us the confidence to say, rather than just doing this across a couple thousand stores, we're going to put it across all our stores. And that's really what I was referencing in the call, which is, hey, that's what has us ahead of schedule. Schedule is getting the operating foundation back in place, getting back to being a world class customer service company and really setting up the expectation that you're going to have the ability to have the community experience you want in our cafes and the connection that you want with our baristas.
- [131:23]
Pat
And so, yeah, I mean, the connection.
- [131:27]
Tommy Lauren
With the baristas, there are some nice people, but I don't know what's happening. It doesn't matter if you're in the most conservative city, everybody with green hair cages and the septum piercing and you know, ambiguous gender works to the freaking Starbucks.
- [131:42]
Producer
She's right. She's 100, right?
- [131:43]
Pat
I know. Even out here we're in Hamptons and I'm like, what is wrong with, like, everybody's awesome.
- [131:48]
Tommy Lauren
I don't So I don't know if that's the culture. I don't know.
- [131:51]
Pat
How do you hire, though?
- [131:53]
Producer
Do you hate your dad? You're damn right.
- [131:55]
Pat
Get in there.
- [131:56]
Producer
Color your hair. Yeah, I don't know. It's weird even. Even right here, we're in Florida. You go outside our office, there's a Starbucks. One girl has a. My pronouns are she and them. They. She's plural.
- [132:07]
Pat
She has all of them.
- [132:07]
Producer
She has every one of them. They us meet her. What then?
- [132:11]
Pat
Really?
- [132:11]
Producer
I'm dead serious.
- [132:12]
Pat
No, I just wonder. By the way, this guy, the day they announced him as a CEO of Starbucks, made $20 billion. The day of the announcement of him being hired, Stock went up 20 to 25, day one, and his complete pay package was like $98 million. Everybody was bitching about it.
- [132:27]
Tommy Lauren
Is he the one that instituted the reforms about the clothing that they were striking over? I think it must have been him if he's been around for.
- [132:35]
Pat
Yeah, but he's only been around for a few months.
- [132:37]
Tommy Lauren
Well, they freaked out and they started protesting because they had to wear a black shirt and khakis, I believe, and the green hairs and stuff. They still can have their green hair and look like freaks, but they just have to wear the khakis.
- [132:49]
Pat
Yeah, you're right. That's who it is.
- [132:50]
Tommy Lauren
And they were mad that they didn't get to express themselves and they had to wear even what would be a very baseline uniform. They were very pissed off about that and they were striking.
- [133:00]
Pat
It's going to be interesting on how he matches because he's a disciplinarian himself and I looked it up on who he was with. He was with Taco Bell for six years and he was with Pizza Hut for six years when he worked for Yum Brands. So 2005-11, Pizza Hut, 2011-2018 was Yum Brands with Taco Bell. So, yeah, apparently that's the guy. Tom, what are your thoughts on this here yourself? I know you're following the story closely.
- [133:24]
Adam
So I, I have two key thoughts. The first is, I'm a fan of Brian Nicol because I'm a fan of strong leadership and people want to get it done. And I hope he turns a Starbucks into a long term investable stock because that's where, you know, I see a reflection of it now. Then if he's going to win me bet. Second thing, if he's going to win me back and others, he's still got work to do and I think he knows he's got work to do. I don't want to go in there where I feel, you know, I get, I wear my future looks bright hat or something. And I don't want to have this side eye from the barista or the, or the, you know, the clerk there. And by the way, I did this. I'm telling you, I did this. And Kim freaked out when I did it. They asked for my name and I said, it's two words. Let me spell for you. G, O, A T and then second word, R U, M, P and goat.
- [134:18]
Vinnie
Rump, but say it fast.
- [134:22]
Producer
Go Trump.
- [134:22]
Adam
Go Trump. And they said, I got a white, I got a white mocha for Go Trump.
- [134:26]
Pat
Yeah.
- [134:28]
Adam
And then everybody looks around like this. Thank you. And Kim's like, they're going to shoot you in here. You're going to get killed. But my point is.
- [134:34]
Vinnie
What's my point, Tom?
- [134:36]
Adam
What's my point? My point is if you want to, you're doing things to bring the experience back, but you need to bring the. Brian, you got to bring the experience back for everybody. We all got to go in there and feel welcomed and not get the side eye look. And there's a lot of things with your staff, the same staff that were protesting when you were just trying to get a unified dress code. So there was unification and things. You know what, Brian, you've got some work to do there. Because when I was in the Hamptons this summer, I didn't go to Starbucks, not once. I went to Hampton Coffee and I wore my future looks bright hat. And there's a lot of liberals there. There was conservatives there. Not once, not once that I get anything other than please and thank you and just friendly surface. And so that's what you're up against where you've got things like that that are a alternative. And so I wish him luck. I want to see him win. Because there was a day where I was a regular Starbucks customer. I was there on my phone, ordered my regular drink, came in, picked it up, said hello to the person. But that's years ago. That's years ago. So he's still got work to do, but I hope he makes it.
- [135:41]
Producer
Well, they're making the shift because remember in 2017, I was in LA when this was happening. They had an open door policy that means anyone could just use Starbucks. All the areas bathroom, dude, there was homeless people washing their butts in the sink and they couldn't do anything about it. So they changed. January 2025, they changed it. They. Starbucks announced its new coffee house code of conduct.
- [136:01]
Pat
It took what year?
- [136:03]
Producer
2018 was the Open door policy.
- [136:05]
Pat
This was under Schultz.
- [136:06]
Producer
Schultz was the guy, yes. Oh, yeah.
- [136:08]
Pat
Howard.
- [136:09]
Producer
Howard Schultz woke.
- [136:10]
Pat
Woke.
- [136:10]
Producer
Forget it.
- [136:11]
Pat
He's not fully worked. He's a Libertarian, but he's definitely not a Republican. He wanted to run for president. Yeah, yeah, he almost run for president, but he did try to let everybody pander. Try to please those guys. By the way, I just looked it up right now, 87% of their employees donate to liberal candidates since 2004 to 2019. And I asked, I said, why are so many employees at Starbucks part of lgbtq? What did it tell you, Rob? Starbucks established a Pride partner network as employee resource group partner as early as 1996. Ergs like this attract support and empower transgender allyship. Got it. So that's what they want. That.
- [136:53]
Vinnie
They got it.
- [136:53]
Pat
That's what they want. By the way, do you. Have you had a bad experience at Starbucks? Have you had a bad experience?
- [136:59]
Vinnie
Only when I see the bill.
- [137:01]
Pat
Have you. Have you actually had a bad experience?
- [137:02]
Vinnie
Well, if you're.
- [137:04]
Adam
If you're saying paying $6 for.
- [137:06]
Pat
No, what I'm saying. That's not what I'm saying.
- [137:08]
Producer
Oh, yeah, that's.
- [137:08]
Pat
That's saying it's expensive.
- [137:10]
Adam
No, no, what I'm saying is getting side eye. And it's just like this.
- [137:13]
Pat
And they look, you had a bad experience.
- [137:14]
Producer
Me and Humberto went to the drive through, and it was an older woke looking lady, and they messed up the drink. And then I asked for it again, and she was just like. Like it was. And I was like, excuse me. I told the orders what my order is, and she messed it up. But, like, it's just the majority of the people in there don't like. Like it. Like, they're in Florida. They look like they hate us.
- [137:35]
Pat
I say, buyers, here's what you do. Go ahead, have a shirt.
- [137:40]
Producer
Okay.
- [137:40]
Pat
Every time you walk into Starbucks that says, feel the burn. We're like a Bernie Sanders shirt.
- [137:46]
Producer
Yeah.
- [137:48]
Pat
Look at the smiles you get. I'll do that, by the way. You know what you should do? You should wear. I'm actually being very serious right now. Do a comedy skit. Not even a skit. Test experience. Wear a Hillary Clinton. I'm with her. Kamala Harris. Wear all those shirts. Bernie Sanders. And go into the same Starbucks. Okay. And see how they treat you.
- [138:10]
Producer
Okay.
- [138:11]
Pat
And then go and wear a Trump shirt with a MAGA hat and see how they treat you.
- [138:15]
Producer
Okay. And I'll put undercover camera.
- [138:16]
Pat
Yeah. Okay.
- [138:17]
Tommy Lauren
There's a simple solution. Punching me in the face in the Starbucks. You play country music. Watch how it changes.
- [138:24]
Vinnie
Oh, yeah.
- [138:24]
Tommy Lauren
Play country music. Watch how it changes.
- [138:26]
Pat
Why do you say that?
- [138:27]
Tommy Lauren
I think the people that are there that have the green hair and the septum piercings and all that, I don't think they'll. I don't think they'll work there anymore with the country music. I don't. It just changes the complete vibe of everything. I'm just, I'm just telling you. Play country music.
- [138:41]
Vinnie
Maybe in Nashville, do they play.
- [138:45]
Tommy Lauren
No, not in the Starbucks. No. We have the green hairs of the septum period.
- [138:48]
Adam
Where our T shirts that say I love country.
- [138:50]
Pat
Even Nashville?
- [138:51]
Tommy Lauren
Yes, even natural. Nashville's a blue. A blue city, though. But it's every coffee.
- [138:55]
Pat
You notice that?
- [138:56]
Tommy Lauren
Every coffee.
- [138:56]
Vinnie
I was gonna say, for the most part. Do you remember we were. We were in Austin, I believe we went to that coffee shop.
- [139:01]
Pat
Austin is not Nashville.
- [139:02]
Vinnie
Yeah, well, I'm just saying in general, there was like three transgender people working at the Starbucks and hanging out. But Tommy brings up the biggest thing. Forget about ideology for a second. Starbucks will make you go broke. You talked about how you make coffee from home and.
- [139:17]
Tommy Lauren
Yeah, I think it's ridiculous. Save that money on watered down.
- [139:21]
Vinnie
One time I, I, I did a manect and I was, I was helping somebody with their personal finance. I said, where's all your money going? You make 100 grand a year, but you have no money saved. I was like, let's walk through your big three expenses. Your housing, your transportation, your food and beverage. Beverage came out to be that. They went to Starbucks every single morning and they spent $6 on a coffee plus a little sandwich. Good. Dude, you're spending 12 bucks every morning at Starbucks. Do the math on that. Okay? So you're spending 50, $60 a week. You're spending 2500 a year on Starbucks. That's money that can go in your Roth IRA. That money can go to 401k. And now you're just getting watered down coffee and you have no money to show for it. It's called death by a thousand six.
- [140:02]
Producer
I'm sorry that I'm laughing, but she said no.
- [140:03]
Vinnie
Vinny, you could shut up now because I'm talking.
- [140:05]
Producer
I'm so sorry.
- [140:06]
Vinnie
For me, I don't care about the wokeism, the ideology, the lgbt, the trans. The average person will basically go broke drinking Starbucks.
- [140:15]
Pat
Tom.
- [140:15]
Producer
Because she said she loves country music. Me and Tom love country music. And Tom showed me this T shirt that people sell. I love country music. Get it?
- [140:27]
Pat
Oh, wow.
- [140:28]
Producer
Oh, my God.
- [140:30]
Vinnie
Vinny, that's why you had to interrupt me, buddy.
- [140:33]
Producer
Stupid meme. Hilarious, this.
- [140:34]
Vinnie
We got Tommy Lauren here, gonna act like an infant.
- [140:37]
Pat
Okay, I'm so sorry. At the end of the. Tommy, I'm sorry, Are you currently working on. Is there any project, anything that you're currently working?
- [140:44]
Tommy Lauren
Well, listen, I got a Daily Show, 1pm Eastern, Monday through Friday on Outkick.com, also on Fox News.com and if I can make it back in time tonight, I'll be on Jesse Waters primetime. The other night I was on right after you.
- [140:56]
Pat
Oh, that's right.
- [140:57]
Tommy Lauren
Yeah. We were in different places. Yes, but I followed you. It was a good time.
- [141:01]
Pat
Yes. To me, Jesse is phenomenal. Yes, I like Jesse because it's also at the right time. Sometimes at 9 to 10, Hannity's like, hey, why can't you Listen, you bring me at 9:10, I don't get to go till 9:40. It changes then by the time I come back, so. But Jesse, I. I love how Jesse runs his show. And anyways, go to Tommy Lawrence show. We're gonna put the link below as well for people to go there.
- [141:25]
Producer
Can I give one shout out, pal?
- [141:26]
Pat
I'm trying to do the show. I'm gonna go to Manek. Guys, guys, today is the last day for Manek. There's two announcements for you. Today's the last day for the Manek contest. Vinny's already broken the all time record. Lindy Lee is right behind him. Zeus is breaking a record.
- [141:40]
Producer
He just broke 4,000 right now.
- [141:43]
Pat
He is intense. What?
- [141:44]
Producer
He's doing 4,000 points.
- [141:45]
Pat
But if there's anything Adam said today that offended you, Manect him. If there's anything you want to have a little bit deeper conversation with Tom, manect him. But Vinnie is about to break the record. Go help him out. And. And next week we won't be here. And the time changes for the podcast for Thursday and Friday, so add it to your calendars. Rob, play this clip and you'll find out. Why did we even play the song, Rob?
- [142:14]
Adam
I believe so. I think we're okay. Oh, this is Austin Powers music.
- [142:23]
Pat
So this is.
- [142:24]
Producer
Look at these guys.
- [142:25]
Vinnie
That's cool, man.
- [142:26]
Producer
Sick. There you are.
- [142:28]
Vinnie
I know you are.
- [142:30]
Pat
Okay, so next week, all right, Tuesday and Thursday, the podcast will be at noon Eastern Standard Time, 9:00am Pacific Standard Time. Please add it to your calendar because we will be in Vegas. Vegas, baby. I will be on in la Thursday, Friday, Saturday or something. Something like that.
- [142:52]
Producer
Friday, Saturday.
- [142:53]
Pat
Anyways, great to have you on.
- [142:55]
Vinnie
Thank you for being here, Tommy.
- [142:56]
Pat
Appreciate you guys. We'll see you on Tuesday. God bless. Have a great weekend. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.