Trump vs Mamdani, Pelosi Retires, Epstein & Comey's Deal + Shapiro SLAMS Tucker | PBD Podcast | Ep. 680

Summary

PBD Podcast | Ep. 680 Summary

Date: November 7, 2025
Host: Patrick Bet-David (Pat), with Tom, Adam, and Vinnie
Episode Theme:
Engaging roundtable tackling major U.S. political shifts, New York’s new progressive mayor, Democratic Party dynamics, media feuds on the right (Shapiro vs. Tucker), government shutdown effects, and the Epstein–Comey–Trump bombshell, spiced with debate about business, culture wars, and current events.

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Table of Contents

1. Pelosi Retirement & Financial Legacy
2. Mamdani’s Election & New York’s Direction
   • Trump's Response
   • Echoes of NY’s Tumultuous Past (Scaramucci, Field Trips, 1970s New York)
   • Mamdani’s Policies & Reaction
   • Exodus Fears
   • Lena Khan Joins Transition
   • “Tax the Rich” Pushback & Reactions
3. Shapiro vs. Tucker, Fuentes & Right-wing Fragmentation
   • Shapiro's Critique of Tucker (47:00+)
   • Dinesh D’Souza on Tucker/Candace
   • Panel’s Take on Right-wing Feuds
4. Epstein–Comey–Trump Allegation
5. Other Current Events
   • FAA Slash and Shutdown Impacts
   • Colbert and "Conservative" Claims
   • Caitlan Collins on Media Bias
   • Gold's Gym Transgender Controversy
   • McDonald’s: Dining Out Less & Inflation
   • Pelosi’s District & Legacy
6. Notable Quotes
7. Timestamps for Key Segments

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Pelosi Retirement & Financial Legacy (00:31 – 01:38, 131:51 – 138:56)

• Announcement: Pat opens with “bad news”: Nancy Pelosi will retire next year.
• Praise & Sarcasm: Pat dubs Pelosi “the greatest trader of all time in Congress” for her investment returns. The crew jokes about her “alleged” ethics and Wall Street savvy.
  • “Forget Warren Buffett, she's the goat. I don't think she gets enough credit.” – Pat (01:20)
• Financial Facts: Her net worth skyrocketed from $165,000 (1987) to $280 million (2024) on a government salary.
• District Neglect: Vinnie rails on SF's homelessness and chaos under Pelosi's watch (136:00+).
• Bipartisanship: Adam and Tom acknowledge her firsts (first female Speaker) but critique her divisiveness.
  • “She wrestled with the best and she's been the nasty one as well.” – Pat (138:23)
• Farewell Comments: Obama’s statement is read; the crew debates her legacy and the power of her political machine.

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Mamdani’s Election & New York’s Direction (07:24 – 35:48)

Trump’s Response (08:11 – 08:47, 14:47 – 17:13)

• Trump warns that Mamdani’s “angry” acceptance speech and embrace of communism/socialism spells trouble for NYC.
  • “A thousand years, communism has not worked… I doubt it’s going to work this time.” – Trump (08:11)
• Trump calls for respect, hinting at political leverage.
  • “He should be very nice to me, I'm the one who has to approve a lot of things coming to him.” – Trump (08:47)

Echoes of NY’s Tumultuous Past

• Scaramucci likens Mamdani’s “free services” platform to Mayor Lindsay’s disastrous 1970s tenure—when giveaways led to mass exodus and NYC's near-bankruptcy (09:39).
• Tom recalls field trips as a Connecticut student—NYC was dangerous, depraved, nearly bankrupt.
• Adam, a Miami native, laments NYC’s decline but frames Miami’s gain (“One man’s loss is another man’s gain.”) (13:09).
  • “NYC is my favorite city… but as someone in Miami, realtors are salivating.” – Adam (14:47)

Mamdani’s Policies & Reaction (20:12 – 24:39)

• “Free Stuff” Switcheroo: Mamdani, after promising free services, immediately asks for donations to staff his transition.
  • “But I need your money now!” – Vinnie (21:25)
• Tenant Rights Overhaul: Mamdani pledges city takeover of non-compliant landlords (“seize the means of production”), which Pat/crew label “actual communism.”
• Contrast with Hochul: His most radical tax ideas require state backing—unlikely since Governor Hochul faces reelection.

Exodus Fears (34:03 – 39:02)

• Business Backlash: Dave Portnoy (Barstool) publicly mocks Mamdani’s “oppressor/oppressed” ideology and threatens to move barstool out of NY.
  • “Thank God I don’t live there anymore.” – Portnoy (32:19)
• Elite Flight: Private school consultants confirm dozens of families—many Jewish—are seeking to relocate. Adam recounts similar trends from CA to TX/FL.
• Economic Consequences: Crew discusses “tax the rich” impact—Tom explains top earners will flee, eroding the tax base, and jobs will follow.

Lena Khan Joins Transition (26:01 – 29:45)

• Progressive, anti-corporate ex-FTC chair (antagonist to Amazon/Meta) now co-chairs Mamdani’s transition. Seen as sign of hostility to big business.
  • “She was actively anti-capitalist.” – Tom (27:22)

“Tax The Rich” Pushback & Reactions (30:04 – 33:33)

• Hochul dodges “tax-the-rich” demands from the base.
• Discussion of real estate owners selling off, fearing regulatory assaults.
• Comparative history: John Lindsay (switched parties), led NYC into crisis post-radical spending.

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Shapiro vs. Tucker, Fuentes & Right-wing Fragmentation (46:08 – 71:40)

Shapiro’s Critique of Tucker (46:33 – 55:03)

• Direct attack:
  “Tucker Carlson… is an intellectual coward, a dishonest interlocutor, and a terrible friend.” – Ben Shapiro (47:08)
• The Issue: Tucker hosted Nick Fuentes and (per Shapiro) enabled normalization of “Nazism” in mainstream GOP.
• Shapiro makes clear his issue is not “free speech,” but “drawing moral lines.”

Dinesh D’Souza on Tucker/Candace

• Lampoons Tucker’s “ventriloquist style” and Candace’s “detective” persona. Calls their approaches “intellectual embarrassment.” (51:02)

Panel’s Take on Right-wing Feuds

• Adam: “The terrible friend part is what pains me. Tucker gave a platform to Nick Fuentes, who’s made a career of attacking Charlie Kirk, Tucker’s friend.”
• Pat: Notes right-wing media camps (Shapiro, Tucker, Fuentes, Daily Wire) are splintered, boosting their opponents.
  • “You handed them 2026. If this continues, it will be a blue wave.” – Pat (65:26)
• Tom: Calls for unity: “Conservatives need unity, we don’t need this divisiveness.”
• Pat & crew agree Megyn Kelly could play “glue,” bringing Ben, Tucker, Candace, Nick Fuentes, Matt Walsh, and Crowder together for public debate.

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Epstein–Comey–Trump Allegation (74:31 – 89:26)

• Controversial bombshell: Judicial documents and a claim by Epstein’s ex-cellmate, Nicholas Tartaglione (a convicted quadruple murderer), allege Maureen Comey (James Comey’s daughter, federal prosecutor) offered Epstein a deal: freedom if he implicated Trump (76:25+).
  • “Prosecutors told Epstein that if he’d said Trump was involved with his crime, he’d walk free… Maureen Comey said he didn't have to prove anything, as long as Trump's people couldn’t disprove it.” – Vinnie (76:25+)
• Panel fiercely debates veracity:
  • Tom: “That’s how the Feds work: offer deals to get bigger fish.”
  • Vinnie: “They were willing to let the most prolific sex trafficker walk to get Trump. That’s how deep it goes.”
  • Adam: Sceptical, citing notorious unreliability of “jailhouse informants.”

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Other Current Events (90:34 – 138:56)

FAA Slash and Shutdown Impacts (90:34 – 98:39)

• Air traffic shortage due to government shutdown—10% flight cuts in 40 cities, with further cuts threatened (94:09).
  • “You don’t want an overworked ATC person working a 12-hour shift.” – Tom (90:34)
  • 500 audience members reported being affected.

Colbert’s “Conservative” Claims & Legacy Media Spin (99:15 – 104:33)

• Stephen Colbert claims he’s “more conservative than people think,” met with derision.
  • “When he did the Colbert Report, …he has been completely absorbed by the left.” – Adam (99:49)
• CNN’s Kaitlan Collins claims her job is not to “take down Trump,” attributed to declining profits and “Bari Weiss effect.”

Gold's Gym Transgender Controversy (107:29 – 117:54)

• Viral incident: Biological male identifying as woman exposes self in women’s locker room, leading to outcry and ejection of the complaining (lesbian) woman.
• Criminal record: The alleged “trans woman” was previously convicted of domestic violence against an ex-wife; assumed their name after transitioning.
• California and gym's policies allow gender-identity-based locker room access—sparks culture war discussion.

McDonald’s: Dining Out Less & Inflation (120:44 – 128:01)

• McDonald’s reports U.S. sales up, but profits lag; lower-income traffic dropping sharply; menu price inflation cited; Big Mac now $6.72 (2019: $4.39, 1999: $2.45).
  • “McDonald’s is up because of inflation, not volume. Lower incomes are coming in less.” – Tom (120:44)
• Live poll: Majority of audience dining out less than pre-COVID.
• Pat’s kids forbidden from eating junk food/cereal (128:01+ for comic relief).

Pelosi’s District & Legacy (131:51 – 138:56)

• Footage of Pelosi announcing retirement; second clip with her denouncing Trump as “the worst thing on the face of the earth.”
• Sen. Fetterman counters: “There’s a lot of people I’d put on that list before Trump—like Hamas or Iran’s leadership.”
• Closing: panel reflects on Pelosi’s career; Adam notes her “gangster move” defying China by visiting Taiwan.

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Notable Quotes

• “Trump: ‘A thousand years, communism has not worked… I doubt it’s going to work this time.’” (08:11)
• “Forget Warren Buffett, she's the goat… She's the greatest trader of all time.” – Pat on Pelosi (01:20)
• “Tucker Carlson… is an intellectual coward, a dishonest interlocutor, and a terrible friend.” – Ben Shapiro (47:08)
• “My job is not to take down Trump. I’m a reporter and an anchor.” – Kaitlan Collins (103:51)
• “That's actual communism. He’s saying the quiet part out loud.” – Adam on Mamdani’s landlord seizure plan (23:49)
• “If you want to chase out great CEOs and businesses, you do it at your own risk.” – Tom (40:39)
• “You handed them 2026. If this continues, it will be a blue wave.” – Pat (65:26)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Pelosi Retirement & Investment Returns: 00:31 – 01:38, 131:51 – 138:56
• Trump Responds to Mamdani: 08:11 – 08:47, 14:47 – 17:13
• NYC Under Mamdani, Scaramucci Analysis: 09:39 – 13:09
• Tenant Rights, City Takeover: 22:43 – 24:39
• Exodus from New York Begins: 34:03 – 39:02
• Lena Khan Joins Transition Team: 26:01 – 29:45
• Shapiro SLAMS Tucker: 46:33 – 55:03
• Dinesh D’Souza’s Critique: 51:02 – 52:24
• Right-wing Fracturing, Unification Needs: 65:26 – 71:40
• Epstein–Comey–Trump Deal Discussion: 74:31 – 89:26
• FAA/Government Shutdown: 90:34 – 98:39
• Colbert & CNN Anchor Claims: 99:15 – 104:33
• Gold’s Gym Transgender Dispute: 107:29 – 117:54
• McDonalds, Dining Out, Inflation: 120:44 – 128:01

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Closing Thoughts

Episode 680 is a densely packed, rapid-fire discussion of American politics and culture with an emphasis on the left-right divide, the economic and social fallout of New York’s turn toward socialism, and the self-inflicted wounds of conservative infighting. The team’s chemistry, dry humor, and willingness to tackle touchy topics make for a lively, insightful, and occasionally outrageous listen.

Transcript

[Tom]

Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm supposed I could taste sweet victory. I know this lifemate for me.

[Pat]

Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright.

[Tom]

My handshake is better than anything I ever saw. It's right here.

[Pat]

You are a one of one.

[Tom]

My son's right.

[Pat]

I don't think I've ever said this before. All right, folks, got some bad news for you. Apparently, Ward got out that Nancy Pelosi is going to retire next year.

[Vinnie]

What?

[Adam]

What?

[Pat]

No, I don't want to break it to you like she's hyped.

[Vinnie]

Serious.

[Pat]

No, she is. Next year as the greatest traitor of all time in the history of Congress.

[Tom]

Oh, my God.

[Pat]

I think Wall Street's probably going to recognize her for her ability to get access to information that others couldn't. Her due diligence and research capabilities are second to none. And you know what? She was able to do it while staying ethical. Allegedly so. But anyways, again, I hate. I hate doing this. I hate starting the podcast with bad news, but I had to do it.

[Tom]

She's up to 26% since.

[Pat]

Her portfolio that Tom has invested $50,000. And just to see how great of an investor she is since July. Not for the year with him.

[Vinnie]

When he started it.

[Pat]

What's the rate of return since July?

[Tom]

26.2% since July 1.

[Pat]

And by the way, listen, forget Warren Buffett, Forget all these guys. She's the goat. I don't think she gets enough credit. But where's the market? Trump. Trump calls out. Trump calls out. Mamdani's very angry acceptance speech warrants communism. Never worked anywhere. Jeffrey Epstein claimed. You ready for this one, folks? Maureen Comey, the daughter of James Comey, would let Epstein free if. If he implicated Trump.

[Tom]

Oh, so the dossier didn't work. And so let's see if we can.

[Pat]

That's right, the ex cellmate.

[Tom]

Get somebody to rat.

[Pat]

You know, Pelosi calls Trump the worst thing on the face of the earth. While she's getting ready to retire, Trump says Mamdani should reach out to him. Has to be a little bit respectful of Washington. CNN anchor pushes back on liberal critics. My job is not to take down Trump. You will not believe who that is. Who said something like that. Top Trump political adviser says president will focus on affordability going forward. Marjorie Taylor Greene tells allies she's running for President in 2028 as firebrand reinvention gains momentum. And Tom has some insight on that. FAA. You ready for this one? Slashing 10% of U.S. flights in 40 major cities as historic government shutdown drags on. Governor Senator Kennedy to introduce bills to withhold pay from lawmakers during government shutdown. Mamdani wants more Money less than 24 hours after getting elected. Vinnie's got some thoughts on that one. Charlemagne tells Van Jones to shut up over Mamdani's speech criticism. And he said it like that. Apparently, families are fleeing New York City's private schools following Momdani's victory, competing for coveted Miami spots. We're having dinner last night with this couple. With the couple, the couple sitting next to us. And after they're done having dinner, I wish them a happy 37th anniversary. She says, well, listen, we were listening to you guys conversation. Are you guys from Greenwich? We're like, no, our friend here is from Greenwich. Greg was with us. We're having dinner. They start telling us how things are in New York. He was a. He's been a cop for New York for God knows how many years. And the stuff they were talking about with New Yorkers, friends, family, their daughters was very interesting. Mamdani taps big tech antagonist Lina Canass to co chair. Mayoral transition team Dev Portnoy destroys Mamdani after election win and threatens to move barstool out of New York City. Democrat Ren Houston rolls out of red carpet for New York cop cops disgusted with Mamdani's victory. There should be flashing red lights banning on Mamdani's win and a Fetterman blast Pelosi for calling Trump the worst thing on the face of the earth. Nvidia Jensen Huang says China will win AI race with us. Then the next day, he changes position. Okay, that's the November 5th first one.

[Tom]

What I meant to say was.

[Pat]

That's right. He softens his China will win the AI race remarks to FT McDonald's US sales rise, but profits fall short as it warns Americans are dining out less on the front lines of American car repo. And Ben Shapiro is calls Tucker Carlson dishonest for normalizing Nazism by hosting white nationalists Nick Fuentes and Stephen Colbert. You guys ready? What he said insists he's more conservative than people might think and not a lefty figure.

[Tom]

You know, let's cover both of those medias at the same time because we think we know why they're suddenly playing well.

[Pat]

That's a good point. You had a. You had a theory that I think it's worth the audience hearing about. And we got a bunch of other things that's going on here. This transgender person who used woman's locker room At Gold's gym. Stole ex wife's name. By the way, Vinnie, you have to see the first lady that's telling the story. She's like, I'm in a freaking shower. I see a guy with his dangling.

[Vinnie]

Exposing, and he's exposing himself to her.

[Pat]

And she's like, what are you doing? And she goes, tells the gym and guess what happened?

[Vinnie]

And what happens?

[Pat]

They kick her out.

[Adam]

Stop it, stop it.

[Pat]

Do you have all those clips, Rob? Like I think three of them. If you can pull it up.

[Adam]

I'm thinking of is like literally just looks like a dude. It's not even true.

[Tom]

The identity of his ex wife that.

[Vinnie]

He beat the hell out.

[Tom]

I want a divorce. But first I'm going to turn you into a lesbian by me being a girl.

[Pat]

We'll talk, we'll talk about that.

[Tom]

And then my license.

[Pat]

There's this one video Vinnie showed me, if we get time to get into it, of a patriot in UK who's 100 years old. And they ask him, so how's the field now serving? He says, all my friends that you just have to see this. I don't even want to take it away. You have to watch it to see what the reaction is going to be. With that being said, gang, a couple things that I do want to share with you guys. This whole auto pin situation is getting a little bit out of control. Rob, if you want to pull up that clip, honestly, everybody's talking about auto pen. Auto pen, auto pen. And it's disgusting. So what do we do? You know, here's for some of you that have big plans for 2026, watch this video. No auto pin here, this is a sharpie. But by the way, 2026 is right around the corner. If you got big plans for 2026 and you've never written a business plan or you've written it, but it's not properly structured. You want some structure for it. That's why I wrote this book. Choose your enemies wisely. If you haven't read it yet, click on a link below, place an order. So if you want a signed copy of choose your enemies wisely, it's never a better time to read a book on business planning. Right now is the time. Go to vtmerch.com rob. We'll put the link below if you don't mind. We'll choose your enemies wisely right there, signed. As well as the other copies of the books that we have. And on top of that, Rob also put the link to business planning workshop. I would do both if I were. You read the book, then attend the business planning workshop. But we're looking forward to 2026. Last night we were at this America Business Forum. I was on stage with Brett Bear. And we're watching all the people that are there, the types of business owners, Jeff Bezos, Jamie Dimon goes before me and then Steve Witkoff is there. Then you have Serena Williams literally goes right after me. And then Rafael was there.

[Adam]

He was there.

[Pat]

Trump message yesterday, Unbelievable. Every. And by the way, everybody in that place was talking about what's going to be happening in 2026. So a lot of people behind closed doors are ecstatic about 2026. If you want to get some of those strategies, register for business planning workshop, go to bpw.davidconsulting.com BPW.davidconsulting.Com Rob, do we have that link below as well? Perfect. Having said that, let's get right into it. Trump calls out Mamdani's very angry acceptance speech, warns communism never worked anywhere. Here's the president. I'm so torn because I would like to see the new mayor do well because I love New York.

[Vinnie]

I really love New York.

[Pat]

When I left New York for Washington, New York was doing really well. But there were some bad signs. The bad sign was a guy named de Blasio. So the signs of de Blasio, that was the beginning and it was bad. This one we're going to look for a thousand years, communism has not worked. It just communism or the concept of communism has not worked. I tend to doubt it's going to work this time. You see his victory speech, it's literally never worked. Yeah, I thought it was a very angry speech, certainly angry toward me. And I think he should be very nice to me. You know, I'm the one that sort of has to approve a lot of.

[Tom]

Things coming to him.

[Pat]

So he's off to a bad start. Tom, thoughts?

[Tom]

So I think he's speaking for a ton of people. You know what was crazy on the Democrat side? You didn't see like this unified cheering section.

[Pat]

No, you did not.

[Tom]

You did. Not at all. And Trump is leading what a lot of people are saying. I mean, in the story rundown that you just did, you know, five minutes ago, Pat, four minutes ago. Yeah, there's all of these things where people talking about, I'm upset, I'm leaving, I'm moving out, people in Miami. And so I think he was measured and I think he made a point to people, Communism doesn't work, gang. You may be upset, but how you Voted has consequences. It doesn't work. And he's reminding them what they voted for. And I think, if anything, the president was measured and showing some leadership here. Not going off the way we know Trump can go off.

[Pat]

Yeah, I thought so as well. By the way, you know what I liked? It's a very weird combination of the next video I'm going to be showing you guys. Next video is a video of Scaramucci, who is not a fan of the president. No, not at all. But watch what he said about Mamdani. And he teaches a little bit of history here about what happened to New York with a mayor in the 60s and how long it took for New York City to recover from it. Go ahead.

[Vinnie]

Is by 2% on people earning over a million. That's what he said.

[Tom]

In exchange for free buses.

[Pat]

But free health care and free child care.

[Tom]

And I understand that. But the last time they did that.

[Adam]

The city and the state lost 600,000. Top people moved into places like Texas and Florida. And they're spending 185 days in those.

[Tom]

Areas and less time in New York. And so that hurts the whole economic ecosystem. So he could do that, but he's.

[Pat]

Got to get Governor Hochul's approval.

[Tom]

He's got to get the assembly and.

[Adam]

The state Senate to do that in all Albany.

[Tom]

But there's another big problem.

[Adam]

If you examine his campaign, it's very similar to John Lindsay's campaign in the late 1960s. People don't remember John Lindsay, but what.

[Tom]

He did was he borrowed a tremendous.

[Pat]

Amount of money to put through a.

[Tom]

Lot of free services. The tax revenues went down, the base went down. And by 1975, his successor, Mayor Abraham.

[Pat]

Beam, was stuck in a financial crisis.

[Tom]

And they had to effectively declare bankruptcy for the city and then restructure the city.

[Adam]

It took 15 years.

[Tom]

It wasn't until 1990 that the city.

[Adam]

Actually started healing itself. So we'll see people from Wall street that have met with the new mayor, the mayor elect, are saying that he's arrogant.

[Tom]

So we'll see.

[Pat]

He wants to raise taxes. What do you think about what Scaramucci said there?

[Tom]

I think Scaramucci is right. And I'll give you personal reflection on it. In 1976, I was in middle school and we had a. We had a field trip. We were going from Connecticut, took a bus into New York to go to two museums. Museum in Natural History. It's been there. Just museum stuff. And my mom was worried about it because New York was on one side of New York. Were these things like Museums. But the other side of New York, it was like a cesspool. There is this thing called 42nd Street. And if you look up 42nd street in the 70s, it was a cesspool. It was, it was worse than Main Street Amsterdam with prostitution and peep shows and pornography, you know, advertised right on the street. It was, it was really bad. Really, really bad. And this is 75, 80. And that's exactly when Mayor Beam came in. And I remember as a freshman in high school, sitting in Connecticut, and we had like a economics and sociology course and they were talking about the plight of New York City, that this incredible city and it's all this thing that was in such trouble and they were in trouble. They were looking for federal support, they were looking for help. And I'll tell you, he's right. Scaramucci there can sometimes be very blustery, but he is correctly talking about what happen in the 60s. And all of a sudden, 1975, Mayor Beam inherited this mess. He was followed by Mayor Koch. And finally he's right. It took until the 90s to get the city on its feet. And then, remember, Rudy Giuliani took it up a level and went after the mob, went after the waterfront and went after things and took it up a lot. So look how long it took. It wasn't just.

[Pat]

I don't know if everybody is thinking how long it's going to take to recover, but some people are just excited about it. Adam, your thoughts on this year?

[Adam]

So as someone that is the biggest advocate for Miami, I kind of feel grateful because, you know, they say finders keepers, losers weepers, or, you know, one man's loss is another man's gain. I truly believe we're about to see the decline of New York City. And it pains me to say that because even though that I'm born and raised in Miami and I love Miami, this is where I want to be. New York City is my favorite city in the world. I've been to London, I've been to Paris, I've been to Rome, I've been everywhere. New York City has something so unique about it. And to see a self proclaimed democratic socialist, communist, slash Islamist slash, pro Palestine terrorist sympathizer be the mayor of the home of capitalism, the home of Wall street, the home of the New York Yankees, and we know an owner or two, it's just, it's sad. But it also tells you that New York has to look in the mirror and say, how did we get here? And I said this before, I think that when they did the, what was it, the organizations they did in the, the Wall street thing, what do they call it exactly? Occupy Wall Street. At the moment, that, that, that movement did not dissipate. It only grew. And you have these 35 and under crowd who genuinely hate what America stands for. They hate what capitalism stands for. All they know is socialism. And if you look at Gen Z, they empathize way more with socialism. So you were starting to see the, the cracks in the, in the vase that is New York City. It doesn't make me happy to see it, but as someone that lives in Miami, I know that realtors are salivating. I know that business people are salivating.

[Pat]

So.

[Adam]

And the future looks bright.

[Pat]

Here's what President Trump had to say when he said the, you know, turn up the volume. When Mamdani said, President Trump, I know you're watching this. Turn up the volume. Go ahead, Rob.

[Tom]

One point. He says, turn the volume up.

[Vinnie]

So hear me, President Trump, when I say this. To get to any of us, you will have to get through all of us. How do you respond to that?

[Tom]

Does that, does that affect anything you're.

[Pat]

Going to do as a dangerous statement for him to make, actually. And, you know, you talk about danger, I think it's a very dangerous statement for him to make. He has to be a little bit respectful of Washington because if he's not.

[Tom]

He doesn't have a chance of succeeding.

[Pat]

And I want to make him succeed. I want to make the city succeed.

[Tom]

I don't want to make him succeed.

[Pat]

I want to make the city succeed. And we'll see what happens. You see reaching out to him.

[Tom]

I would say he should reach out to us, really. I think he should reach out.

[Pat]

I'm here.

[Adam]

Pbd. How do you process that? Because to me, that's a very mature diplomatic statement. When he could eviscerate him.

[Pat]

How do you interpret what I said last night? What I said last night when I, I said he's at level 100 at having gone through the fire, mentally tough. Vinnie, what are you thinking?

[Vinnie]

Well, I mean. Well, first and foremost, on the, on the Mamdani situation, how he spoke, I want people to understand the, the, the sudden switch. Did you see Van Jones when he was on whatever show he was on, and he's like, I can't. This is literally the moment he wins. He gets behind the mic and do you hear the anger? Do you hear the bitterness? It's almost like a I got you. And it's people like Van Jones that got buyer's remorse because they Were talking so proud about him five minutes before Pat. And they were duped. He said he goes. He used to be calm, warmed and embracing. Yeah, that's what you get. He exposed his true Marxist attitude. He was angry. Is this it, Rob? Can we play that? Rob? Pat, his little.

[Adam]

I think he missed an opportunity.

[Vinnie]

Missed an opportunity.

[Adam]

I think the Mamdani that we saw in the campaign trail, who was a lot more calm, who was a lot warmer, who was a lot more embracing, was not present in that speech. And I think that Mamdani is the one you need to hear from tonight. There are a lot of people trying to figure out, can I get on this train with him or not? Is he going to include me? Is he going to be more of a class warrior, even in office? I think he missed a chance tonight to.

[Pat]

To open up and bring more people into the tent.

[Adam]

I think he had tone.

[Vinnie]

His tone. And it's like, weird, weird. And what happened? What is it always about, Vinny? I'm sorry.

[Tom]

Whose tent is Van Jones talking about?

[Pat]

Who's.

[Vinnie]

Which one?

[Tom]

When he says bring more people under the tent?

[Vinnie]

Which tent?

[Tom]

He's talking about the Democrat Party, of course. Mandami is not building that tent.

[Vinnie]

No. And who vote? And I was trying to think, because we saw the numbers and I saw a chart to Rob, who voted? Who are the majority of the people that were voting for him were Who? The working class? No, it was angry white liberal women and the. And the younger people that are getting promised free stuff. And you made a great point, Pat. And this is the third time that I'm talking about it. Everybody's talking about the mass exodus, okay? All the millionaires and billionaires that Bernie Sanders talks about. And you said it last night again, who's going to be moving to New York, okay? Illegals. Because he's going to be soft on crime, and he wants to empty up the jails, number one. Number two, all the criminals, all the illegals, everybody wants to come because, you know, why be in jail? He loves illegals. Because it was a sanctuary city. And then, honestly, the Muslim community. And I want everybody to understand one thing. I criticize Christians. I criticize Jewish people, Israel. And don't think for two seconds that I'm not going to criticize Muslims as well. This is October, Pat. This is a father walking through the Bronx. And if you don't think this is going to start happening, you're an idiot. This is a guy in the Bronx. And I'm all for everybody having your religions. They're in the Middle of the street, doing this type of prayer. Go ahead, Rob, play this. October.

[Pat]

But you cannot take us.

[Tom]

Who.

[Adam]

Who said me?

[Tom]

What gives you special privilege?

[Pat]

You cannot do that.

[Vinnie]

Tolerant. Boom. This is in the Bronx, New York. A father's trying to walk now in the Bronx. This is the Bronx. And if you don't think this is going to start happening more and more and more, you are insane. And I. Can I make. You could stop it. And then did you see his intern, Mamdani's intern, how her attitude is about. Oh, you guys already played it. Okay, so we don't have to play it. But I'm just telling you, Pat, I feel like this guy is going to be the beginning. And it's going to start happening more and more and more. And I give it two years, and people are going to see what New York is becoming.

[Tom]

Van Jones had it backwards. He's correct, but he has it backwards. He said this mandami was the mandami that we saw. The warm and toned down a little bit during the campaign is not the mandami we saw here. You need to understand, Van. The mandami you saw here is mandami. That's the mandami you didn't see during the campaign.

[Vinnie]

Exactly. And Rob, can we.

[Tom]

This is the real guy. The box is open, and the real you just paid for it. Now you gotta open the box and see what you really bought.

[Vinnie]

And for everybody that's in New York. And I'm going to pray for you. And I'm sorry, you were like, he's all the free stuff. Free buses we don't need. We're going to tax the rich. What did he do the very next day? He's asking for your money. Play this, Rob. Oh, good morning, New York City.

[Adam]

Thank you.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Vinnie]

Last night we made history. And today we begin the work of making a new administration. Welcome to the transition.

[Pat]

Great.

[Vinnie]

This is the period over the next few months where we build a city hall that delivers on the promises of our campaign to make New York City affordable and to make government accountable to the people. Okay, where's the free stuff? As we prepare to govern, we'll start announcing the leaders who will help implement our agenda. People like deputy mayors who oversee entire areas of government, and the commissioners who carry out the critical work of city agencies. These appointments will be driven by excellence, integrity, and a hunger to solve old problems with new solutions. Talking to organizers on the front lines of the fight to improve our city government.

[Pat]

Veterans with proven track records, policy experts from around the country and the world.

[Vinnie]

And working people who know better than anyone what our neighborhoods deserve. And this will be a period like the campaign we ran and the City hall to come, defined by transparency. Because New Yorkers deserve a government they can trust.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Vinnie]

On January 1st, I will be your mayor.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Vinnie]

New Year's Day and a new era for this city. What does New Year say? Oh, one more thing, one more thing. You have to wait. Remember how I told you a few months ago to stop sending us money? Guess what?

[Pat]

You can start again.

[Vinnie]

Yeah. This transition requires staff research and an.

[Pat]

Infrastructure that can reach.

[Vinnie]

We need money. Stop. You're talking about all that, about all the buildup. We're going to do this.

[Adam]

We do this.

[Vinnie]

But I need your money now.

[Pat]

Yeah. I mean, look, I'm not surprised. I will tell you, you know, when, when this has happened. And the biggest question is what level of action families will take. You know, we were at a dinner last night. Everybody was speaking about this. They're walking by our table, we're talking, they're talking to us about what's going on in New York City. Ladies got a 65 unit apartment that her father gave to her in her inheritance that she took over. She sold in January. She says, you know what? Some of the laws were in, in New York, just people didn't have to pay rent. And they're like, nah, I don't have to pay rent. But you make money based on the new laws that they have. I don't have to pay rent. I saw a clip, Rob. I don't know if I send it to you. I don't think I send it to you. I'm gonna, I'm gonna forward it to you. And if you can go to like the 42nd mark when I forward this to you, it's a video of him saying he's highlighting this apartment where the owner is not taking care of the tenants, which makes sense. You know, there are, you know, owners that don't take care of the, the, the tenants. And the tenants have the choice to leave, to go to a different place. You don't have to stay there. But watch what he says, which is the most powerful part, folks. And, and if you can fast forward, Rob, and go to right about there, played from right there. Watch this. Go ahead.

[Vinnie]

The mayor's office to protect tenants, bringing.

[Pat]

Code enforcement under one roof and make.

[Vinnie]

Sure that agencies are working together to hold bad landlords accountable. Starting on day one, we will expand the city's special enforcement programs, doubling fines for hazardous violations and tripling them for conditions that are immediately Dangerous. And when a really bad landlord like this guy refuses to fix.

[Pat]

Watch, listen.

[Vinnie]

The city's going to step in, make the repairs and send them.

[Pat]

Okay? Watch.

[Vinnie]

Now, if that doesn't work, the city's taking over the building. The worst landlords out of business, and.

[Pat]

We'Re going to transform. Go back five seconds. Go back five seconds. Go back. Right there. Say it again. Listen, folks, go ahead.

[Vinnie]

Like this guy refuses to fix it. The city's going to step in, make the repairs and send them the bill. If that doesn't work, the city's taking over the building.

[Pat]

We're putting the worst landlords out of.

[Vinnie]

Business and we're going to transform 311 by bringing the latest in cutting edge technology.

[Pat]

Yeah, Ben Phillips. Shout out to him. He sent this clip to me and he says, we're going to take over the building.

[Vinnie]

So it's theirs, it's the cities.

[Adam]

So you mean like seize the means of production? Like communists?

[Vinnie]

Wait a minute.

[Adam]

So he's saying the quiet part out loud.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Adam]

And people voted for it.

[Pat]

That's right.

[Adam]

Bravo, New York City.

[Pat]

But. But the point is, you know what that means.

[Adam]

Yes.

[Pat]

You know what that means? Challenge is he's going to need Albany to get some of this stuff done. That's what this family was saying last night. He's going to need Hochul. What's the likelihood of Hochul agreeing to the 22 to the 2% increase on the. Probably on the rich?

[Tom]

Very low. She's up for reelection.

[Pat]

She's up for reelection. What is. Does he need her help also to be able to increase the corporate taxes? Same thing. He's got to go through Albany. Of course, Tom.

[Tom]

Yes, yes, some of it. And I'm diving into it with Brandon so that we can really know step by step what he can and can't do. Some of the things he can do with the stroke of a pen, similar to a president's executive order. Some of the other things he can't. We're going to put the list so people can see.

[Pat]

We're going to see. And remember that. Remember that one mayor that Scaramucci was talking about, Lindsey pre1971. You know this. This guy apparently used to be a Republican. Republican guy. Then he became a Democrat and he stayed with the party. Can you zoom in a little bit, Rob? Go down a little bit on his political affiliation. Okay, right there. Right. To go up. 1971, during his term as a mayor, Lindsay switched from the Republican Party to the Democratic Party. Same year he launched a brief Unsuccessful bid for Democratic presidential nomination. In 1980, he made an unsuccessful bid for Democratic nomination for U. S. Senate. So this has been tested out. The only difference with this guy is he wasn't a, you know, a Muslim himself. He was. What happened?

[Tom]

Look where he went to school. You're right. Keep going. But look where he went to school.

[Pat]

What's that? What school are you seeing, Tom?

[Tom]

The Buckley school? Highly liberal. St. Paul's and Yale.

[Pat]

Yeah, but. But here's. I want to get to this next one and then we can kind of move on from Mamdani because he's officially yours. New York. Congratulations. We're very happy, Derek.

[Adam]

Mazel tov.

[Pat]

Yeah. So Zoran Mamdani taps big tech antagonist Lena Canas, co chair, mayoral transition team. You should see his transition team. He doesn't believe in hiring men. Okay, it was. Did you see this, Rob?

[Adam]

Is it Lena Khan? What's her name?

[Pat]

Lisa Khan. Lisa Khan.

[Adam]

Go to Lena.

[Pat]

I'm sorry. Lena Khan.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Play this clip. Right.

[Tom]

Good morning, everybody.

[Vinnie]

It's great to see you all.

[Pat]

I want to start off by just.

[Adam]

Congratulating our mayor elect Mamdani on a.

[Tom]

Incredible victory and just a remarkable campaign this last year.

[Vinnie]

I think what we saw last night.

[Pat]

Was New Yorkers not just electing a new mayor, but clearly rejecting a politics where outsized corporate power and money too often end up dictating our politics and a clear mandate for change, where New.

[Tom]

Yorkers can get ahead and where all.

[Pat]

Workers and small businesses can thrive, not just get by. I think what we saw through the campaign was an operation that showed extraordinary.

[Tom]

Discipline, rigor, talent, and I know that Zoran has the vision composite right there.

[Pat]

Okay, just so you know who she is, she's the former Federal Trade Commission chair and she's going to be serving as a co chair on the transition team. And the 36 year old Democrat who brought major cases against Meta on Amazon while running the FTC from 2021 to 2025 surprised some onlookers on Wednesday as she appeared alongside Mamdani at his first post election press conference. Tom, why is this so important to businesses in New York City?

[Tom]

Because he has picked somebody who is picking on businesses. And by the way, this was a pick that in my opinion of everything I've read, that was an Obama influence pick that was made by Biden because she was named to the Federal Trade Commission. And my opinion, based on what I've read, is that Biden didn't really understand everything about her and she was kind of pushed through by other People that were working with Biden to get it done. And all she did for her time there was question every merger. All mergers aren't bad. Sometimes mergers save jobs by creating a single stronger organization out of two. And she picked on people. And I'm not against that. Some of the things that Meadow was asked to answer for, like the, the, the stuff, they were intentionally trying to hook young girls to get them to stay on. And they were suffering, you know, depression and all psychological effects. That's where government steps in to do good things. Like osha. Right, OSHA stepping in. But what she was doing, ftc, this was her mandate. She was anti capitalist. So it wasn't just the ftc, Pat, trying to make good business decisions, good decisions about businesses to protect citizens and investors and things. She was actively anti capitalist. And I believe that she was put there by other people and that Biden didn't really know what he put there. And now she, no surprise the lady picking on business is now picked by Mandami to lead his transition.

[Adam]

One other thing to think about, I mean, listen, there's two ends of the spectrum. She's a progressive and she's very aggressive when it comes to monopolies and antitrust laws, which we understand, we don't want monopolies in this country. But she's also what it would appear to be very anti capitalist. So I think she made her name really advocating against Amazon. And if you remember what happened in New York right before COVID you have a representative in New York named aoc. Our friends in New York know her who was vocally and politically opposed to Jeff Bezos moving a headquarters HQ2 or something. Exactly. To New York. Do you know how much money this would have brought to New York? This. You know how many jobs this would have brought to New York, do you? Much more opportunity.

[Pat]

5,000 jobs at $150,000 average salary.

[Adam]

You don't think New Yorkers want that job? You don't think New Yorkers who are struggling with affordability and the wage gap and the wealth gap wanted those jobs. So it's okay to be antitrust and anti monopoly. I get it. But when you're anti capitalist and anti business, that's where people have a problem with people like this.

[Vinnie]

And Pat, just FYI today, Stefanik, since you guys are talking about governor, she just launched her gubernatorial race for 2026 and she said when New Yorkers were looking for strong. This is about Hokul, strong leadership from a governor not to bend the knee to Zohar Mamdani. Kathy Hochul bent the knee. So it just started today.

[Pat]

Yeah. But the question again is, is Mamdani going to be able to do the things with taxes? With the support of Hochul, Hochul was asked about Mamdani. Tax the rich. Tax the rich. Did you guys see this clip or no?

[Vinnie]

No.

[Pat]

Tax the rich. And she said, settle down, settle down, settle down. And then afterwards, when they asked her, do you, you know, what do you think? Because she started getting upset at the audience that were chanting, is this the one, Rob? That's the one. Go ahead, Rob, play the clip. Watch this.

[Tom]

New York's first mom, Governor, we need more child care.

[Adam]

Child care for everyone who wants it.

[Pat]

And then you hear, tax the rich. Tax the rich.

[Tom]

Tax the rich. Tax. I can hear you.

[Pat]

Okay. Afterwards, when they asked her, are you going to tax the rich? She says, you know, I don't really know what they were saying. I thought they were saying something like, let's go, you know? Yeah, actually she said that.

[Vinnie]

Are you serious?

[Pat]

No, no, not Brandon. She says, I thought they were saying, let's go New York, let's go. Something like that. So look, who knows? But let's look at business owners and what type of action they're taking. Here's Dave Portnoy. Okay, New York, attitude, energy, media, vocal. Here's what she he said about what he's planning on doing with. What do you call it? Barstool sports. And his reaction to it, because barstool, you know, I believe they're in New York City.

[Adam]

Yeah, definitely New York City.

[Pat]

He destroys after election. He lives in Florida, but I think barstool is in New York. Destroys Mamdani after election and threatens to move barstool out of New York City. This is his tweet that he's saying perfectly. What is a perfect man in New York City? Thank God I don't live there anymore. A relief day. Portnoy says he thankfully no longer lives there. Mamdani, just 34, got elected after Mamdani, you know, on Scott Jennings, Brandon, a great actor on X concluded, Scott Jennings sums up Mamdani perfectly. But if this is what the people of New York City want, then so be it. Thank God I don't live there anymore. Portno has previously expressed his disdain for Mamdani and his left wing ideology. And Rob, is this him talking about the barstool or he's talking about the fact that he's an actor? Scott Jennings talking about that? Mom, Donnie is an actor. Go ahead and play the clip.

[Vinnie]

He's the greatest actor you have you know, he turned himself into a hood ornament for the poor and the downtrodden.

[Tom]

He's a rich kid who is a great actor. He play, acts.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Tom]

I'll tell you what.

[Vinnie]

I understand why and so I can.

[Pat]

Understand why you'd be leery of an actor in politics.

[Vinnie]

I'm just saying there's no other obvious Democrat trying to say all the energy behind him. You talk about slicing and dicing the electorate. He's going to slice it and dice it in one way.

[Pat]

Oppressors and oppressed.

[Vinnie]

And I want to find out if he has it in him to give it up. I don't think he does because that's the energy in the Democratic Party. It's oppressors and oppressed.

[Pat]

That's why the Jews in this city.

[Tom]

Feel scared because they know he has.

[Vinnie]

Labeled them as the oppressors. That's why people who create jobs in New York City are literally, because he labels them the oppressors.

[Pat]

That is the worldview of the energy.

[Tom]

Of this campaign and it's also the.

[Vinnie]

Worldview of the energy of Democratic primaries across this country. I love it. Stop talking, bro.

[Pat]

Oh, by the way, he's going to be in the 2020 at elections. Jennings is going to be running as well. He may be a president, vp. He's going to do something. Hey, is anyone leaving New York City? Is anyone leaving New York City? Watch this. Families are fleeing New York City private schools following Mamdani's victory, competing for coveted Miami spots. Adam, I'm coming to you with this one. And then Tom right afterwards to you. So you know they're not going to leave New York City.

[Vinnie]

Vinny, I remember hearing that no one's.

[Pat]

Going to leave New York City. It's not going to happen. Zoramdani's victory has New Yorkers running for the hills, or at least private schools outside of the city since the result of Tuesday's election. And school placement consultant Christopher Rim told Post that he has had no less than 23 clients reach out to him. They're looking to relocate and they want to help getting their kids his help with getting their kids into private elite high schools and middle schools and other states. Within the first 30 minutes of AP announcing Mamdani's victory, I got three messages from families looking to move, said Rim, the founder CEO of Command Education. Over the summer, I started hearing families say, I don't know what we're going to do if this guy wins, he said, feeling that a Mamdani victory was inevitable. Six of his clients Moved to Connecticut, Greenwich, Darien and Riverside ahead of the school year. They were like, he's going to win and there's no reason to wait. The parents who have reached out to him have kids enrolled at top notch New York City schools including Trinity River, Riverdale, Horace Mann, Ramaz and Event Avenues. Their children range from third grade through high school. Many, he reports, are Jewish and are concerned about his rising anti Semitism in the city and Mamdani's views on Israel.

[Adam]

Adam, so it's going to happen. You know, we're like, we're asking that, we're posing this question, like, are people leaving? I don't know. Would they do this? Listen, I've seen New Yorkers flirt with moving to Florida my entire life. And pre Internet, pre social media, pre Covid, pre zoom. I would always ask these questions, especially when I was like in the nightlife world. They'd come down every winter, New Year's, have the best time of their life, and they're like, man, I love it here, man. I was like, well, why don't you guys just move here if you love it so much? Well, you know, New York family, this, that, the other. And then what we saw happen during COVID they were just like, yo, we out. And if you don't think it's gonna happen, there's precedent for this. Just look at California. You left California. Yeah, you left California. You left California. How many companies left California during COVID We know Tesla, Oracle, I think Hewlett Packard, Palantir, they all moved to Texas. Charles Schwab, Chevron, Rogan famously went to Austin. So California, when they're, when, when, when the, when the wealthy have had enough, they move to Texas and in some cases Vegas or Tennessee. It's no secret when New Yorkers have had enough and they say, all right, we can move to Connecticut, we can use New Jersey, whatever, whatever. All right, we're out. We're moving to Miami, we're moving to Fort Lauderdale, we're moving to Boca. We've seen it a million times. It's not even a question. So New Yorkers are going to come here, they're going to come in droves. And the cost to live in Miami now is going to get more expensive. Everything's supply and demand. So I continue to say this, Zoran Mamdani is a case example of what not to do, but what to do if you want to get elected. Think about this. If you want to run, If I wanted to run as a Democrat, anybody wants to run as a Democrat, it's the easiest thing to do. Do you want. Like, when I ran for student body government in fifth grade, I was like.

[Pat]

Do you want free pizza?

[Adam]

Do you want to have PE six times a day? Do you want to not do homework, vote for me? Everyone's like, hell, yeah. The hardest thing to do is run as a Republican, especially. Do you want to have to work your ass off? Do you want to have to actually put in the work and build the business? Do you actually want to have to wake up early, get stuff done, raise your family, raise your kids? I know it's not easy, but someone has to do it. Are you up for the challenge? That's the difference. Like, the Democratic Party to me is free, free, free, free pizza, which I ran for in fifth grade. Zoran Mandani is doing it today, by the way. Got elected, homie. Never. Nobody ever got free.

[Vinnie]

Then the next day, he asked for money.

[Adam]

By the way, can I get some?

[Vinnie]

Yeah, I need money for the pizza.

[Adam]

So we've seen this show before, and, you know, I love New York, but best of luck. Buenos.

[Pat]

Any thoughts?

[Vinnie]

No, I just. It's. It's to. To say that people aren't leaving. And we've heard it on people's podcasts, like, what, a week before it happened? They're going to leave. Like, let me ask you a question. If you're a. Let's say you're worth $50 million and you're in New York, what's that 2%, Tom? That's going to hit you, that 2%.

[Pat]

Cheers.

[Adam]

Oh, it's huge.

[Vinnie]

So you're making Tom do my question.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Vinnie]

How does that feel, Tom?

[Pat]

Tom looked at you like.

[Vinnie]

My question is, it's actually not the 50 million. What is it?

[Pat]

The 2% is millionaires. He's going to pay for that. But he wants to take corporate tax from 7.3 to 11.4. That's 4% on corporation revenue. That means what he's trying to say is it's literally moving jobs away from. What do you call it? From companies creating the jobs to the government creating jobs. That's all he's doing. He's moving to 4% anytime they raise taxes. The way to interpret that is the following. They're telling you the government can do better with your money than free markets. That's all they're saying the government can do better than the free market. It's like a new CEO getting hired at the company. And here's how they campaign. You ready? Hey, Amazon. Vote for me to be the new CEO of Amazon, because what we're going to do is lower the salaries of the big executives and we're going to raise the salaries of the minimum wage. I'm going to make sure these executives that are making four, five, six million dollars a year, we're going to bring them down to, no executive should make more than a million dollars a year at Amazon. But if you're only making $60,000, we're going to raise your living wages from 60 to $200,000 a year. Who's going to be voting for that? 80% of people at companies don't make that much money. Like, holy shit, I love this CEO. They're going to vote for him. Then a new CEO comes in. Then guess what those executives do. Hey, Korn, Ferry. Yeah, I'm looking. So if you want to call Google Metal, everybody else let them know I'm looking because they just slashed my salary in half. It's basic mathematics. Tom, go ahead.

[Tom]

No, you know what? To Matt's point here, I'm going to add to it, and the actual. And here come the haters. You're going to just descend on me. If you look at the report card of people that are running businesses and take away the bad actors, the people that, that don't treat people well, you only have about 33, 40% of executives in this country that are truly great executives. You listen to the things. I mean, Pat and I saw a clip from Jeff Bezos as he was coming in and was connected to the American Business Forum where Pat was interviewed by Brett Bear. And you see real genius and you see people, you say, well, that's why that company's there. And you listen to them and it's like, it's, it's amazing. There's only so many of them. And if you want to chase them out of the, of your company, you do it at your own risk. Bad CEOs lose great teams. We saw it happen. We talk about, we talk about Chipotle, we talk about Brian Nichol. You know, he attracts great teams and gets great results. There's not a whole lot of those guys. So if you want to chase great businesses out, there's not a whole lot of great businesses that are going to grow over 20 years and are going to bring jobs and bring things in. There's not a lot of those opportunities. And it's arrogant to say, well, the government that is not in the business of running businesses is going to run businesses. And by the way, do you know how he takes away that apartment building? He already knows. He's Going to get it. Because he's putting restrictions on you as a landlord. He's putting controls on you as a landlord. You don't have the money to do the things that he wants you to do. Vinnie, did you do this, this and this? I don't have the money to do it. Oh, that's a no. We'll be back next week. Did you do this, this and this?

[Vinnie]

I don't have the money.

[Pat]

Guess what?

[Tom]

We're going to do it. We're going to come in and do all that stuff and here's the bill.

[Vinnie]

I don't have the money to do it.

[Tom]

I'm sorry. Give me all your keys, all the copies of the keys. We own it. We have the deed. Send them the. Send them the note.

[Pat]

They.

[Tom]

It's a plan. It's a plan. So on one side it's a plan and on the other side, and it's unintended consequence. You have some people that. It's a complete unintended consequence because they say, we're going to be men of the people. We're going to do this. And you chase out the good people just the way bad CEOs chase out great, great teams. Then on the other hand, it's intentional. Intentional. The workers will control the means of production. We're going to take it.

[Adam]

Yeah, there it is.

[Pat]

You're seeing it. He's already speaking a language. This guy here just literally tweeted right now. Danker D49er native. You guys could buy a New York school and relocate them to Miami, pay the teachers to move down and draw the demand. Eventually we're going to be doing that, just not right now. By the way, for those of you guys that are watching, if you haven't posted a question yet, on my next circle, at the end of it, we'll get. We'll try to get to one or two of the questions. I know this topic of New York City is very, very important and sensitive to a lot of you. Go to my next circle, pose your question. That's the QR code right there. Download the app and then at the end of it, we'll address some of the questions.

[Adam]

Real quick. You interviewed a guy probably five years ago, I think, I believe his name was Dan Price.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Adam]

Gravity Payment, something like that.

[Pat]

Yes. It was a merchant account company.

[Adam]

Okay, so this guy practice what I believe was called ethical capitalism. There he is right there. He's sort of like a Jack Dorsey wannabe, respectfully. He was making a million dollars a year, I believe, as the CEO. And you know, salaries range all over. He said, you know what, guys? Moving forward, bing, bing, bing. We're all equal. Everyone's gonna make, I think $70,000 was the number. Does that strike?

[Pat]

That's it. 1.1 million to 70k.

[Adam]

All right. Everyone's gonna make 70k and. Oh, that's so sweet. That's so nice. Oh, my God. We're all equally. All do the exact same thing. Oh, we're all living in a fairy tale. That's not how life works. I think the company might have gone under. I'm not sure if he is even still relevant. I'm not sure where the story ends, but the company did not succeed. You can't just pay everyone the exact same amount. I'll give you another example. So there's two players. One, arguably the best player in the league and one, arguably the worst player in the league. They're on the same team. And one is called LeBron James and one is called Bronnie James. Respectfully, nice young guy. Still, still has.

[Tom]

Are they related by any?

[Adam]

They are, sir. One, I think, makes $50 million a year, and one makes, I would assume, the rookie minimum in this world. You pay them the exact same amount. Doesn't matter what you've done, doesn't matter Your track record, doesn't matter. You put butts in seats. Doesn't matter that you're the arguably the greatest living player. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We're all equal guys. The problem is that's not how things work. I think Shohei Otani, the greatest player right now, other than Aaron Judge, maybe. I think he makes. What's his contract? $700 million.

[Tom]

They're showing us history.

[Adam]

$700 million, Tom.

[Tom]

Yeah, 700.

[Adam]

Okay. Worth every penny. Yeah.

[Tom]

Yeah. And. And by the way, I'd like to.

[Pat]

Go to the next story out of anything else or.

[Adam]

No, I'm just saying. Yeah, the greatness. But the point is this. You people don't understand CEOs. You pay for great CEOs, do you not?

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Who's the guy that they said, who's the guy? Was it Starbucks? Who was the guy? I don't take phone calls. I don't take phone calls after 5 o'. Clock. But they paid some guy that I think were you. So in Chipotle, you pay for greatness.

[Tom]

The predecessor said that.

[Adam]

And they don't understand that in the corporate world, or socialists don't understand that, but they have no problem, you know, paying LeBron.

[Pat]

Let's go to next story. Let's go to the next story. Okay, so that's that. Now, while all of this stuff is going on, you know, you have Ben Shapiro blasts dishonest Tucker Carlson for normalizing Nazism by hosting white nationalist Nick Fuentes. Why would he ever have Nick Fuentes on his podcast? I mean, I can't imagine anybody ever doing such a thing. But is this. What is this right here, Rob?

[Tom]

This is Ben Shapiro.

[Pat]

Okay, go for it.

[Tom]

Hey, folks, I wanna do something different. On today's show. We're gonna cover one topic in depth. That topic is, I think, the most important thing happening in the country. It was a hot topic last week, but I wanted to take some time to really gather my thoughts and speak on it in coherent fashion, holistic fashion. That topic is the fragmentation of the political right. That fragmentation is being caused purposefully by a splinter faction of people led by a young man named Nick Fuentes. They call themselves the Gripers. They are white supremacists. They hate women, Jews, Hindus, many types of Christians, brown people of a wide variety of backgrounds, blacks, America's foreign policy and America's Constitution. They admire Hitler and Stalin. And that splinter faction is now being facilitated and normalized within the mainstream Republican Party. The main agent in that normalization is Tucker Carlson, who is an intellectual coward, a dishonest interlocutor, and a terrible friend. And Tucker Carlson last week was aided, abetted, celebrated for normalizing Nazism within the Republican Party by the mainstay organization of the traditional right, the Heritage Foundation. Now, before we explain what's been happening, let's make one thing clear. This is not about free speech or cancellation. It was never about free speech or cancellation. Free speech has a definition, the right to speak free of governmental coercion. I believe in it. Of course, I've always defended it. Criticism of bad speech is, in fact, just a form of free speech. Cancellation also has a definition, the banning of particular people, including people like Nick Fuentes, from platforms like X or Facebook. I believe that Nick Fuentes is odious and despicable. But I've never called for his cancellation, and in fact, I've called for his restoration to those services, despite the fact that I think he's odious and despicable. It is not cancellation to draw moral lines between viewpoints. In fact, we used to call that one of the key aspects of conservatism. It is not cancellation to refuse to signal boost Hitler's supporters like Nick Fuentes. It is not cancellation to criticize Tucker Carlson.

[Pat]

We can pause, right? Okay, Adam, go ahead.

[Adam]

No, I'm pulling something Up.

[Pat]

Go ahead. No, no, it's your story, it's your name. Go ahead.

[Adam]

Just grabbing someone thing. So when he. When Ben called. By the way, Rob, I sent you a clip. That's what I was waiting on. And I'll. I'll get back to that in a second. When Ben called Tucker Carlson, a intellectual coward, dishonest interlocutor and terrible friend. You know what stuck out to me? The terrible friend part, because I'm totally an advocate of free speech. We've had Nick Fuentes here. I mean, I've received so much criticism for shaking Nick's hand, playing basketball with Nick. What's weird is I get along with Nick. You've seen this. Do I disagree on his judgment of Jews and Israel and blacks and immigrants? Of course, any reasonable person would draw those conclusions. But is there a sliver of truth in what he's saying? Of course. Because otherwise why would people resonate with this? The terrible friend, to me thing is what pains me. You mean to tell me you're going to have Tucker Carlson, you're going to have Nick Fuentes on, who in many ways made his name shitting on Charlie Kirk and not even a little bit. The entire thing. Nick Fuentes.

[Pat]

Okay, yeah, yeah.

[Adam]

Made a living on shitting on Charlie. And for Tucker to not even mention it once, not even like, hey, listen, as you know, Charlie was a friend. Tucker spoke at Charlie's funeral. How many people spoke at Charlie's funeral? 20, maybe in the world. To not even mention, hey, I really don't like that. I really don't. I don't like what you did there. I hear you. But to not even mention it, it's so weak and cowardly to me. Okay, moving on. If someone tells me, hey, I'm a huge fan of Hitler, I'll be like, okay, cool. No follow up questions. But not one. Oh, by the way, I remember December 19th. It's a great day for me. What's December 19th? Stalin's birthday?

[Pat]

December 18th.

[Adam]

Oh, my bad. Okay, we'll circle back to that. Hey, Tucker, you never circled back, buddy. And you were never planning on circling back. So to me, I said this three months ago.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Adam]

If I had to pick who, actually I trust more to believe in what they believe in. Nick Fuentes or Tucker Carlson. Give me Nick Fuentes all day. I think Tucker's an actor. I think he's a faker and I think he's a gaslighter. That's my opinion. Come at me. All good. This clip is from Dinesh d'. Souza. He's been on the show. This is his opinion on Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens.

[Pat]

Go ahead.

[Tom]

Tucker doesn't even purport to be knowledgeable about anything. So as a result, what Tucker says is, I will develop a ventriloquist style. I have strong opinions, but I don't want to defend any of them. So I will set up a structure in which I bring in sources, often rather dubious sources, people who've never heard.

[Pat]

Of, you know, the nun with the.

[Tom]

Mustache, some disgraced academic.

[Vinnie]

And what I'll do is I will.

[Tom]

Ask sort of leading questions that in which is embedded an answer, my answer.

[Pat]

But framed as a question.

[Tom]

You then will blurt out the obvious implications of the question, giving me the answer I expected. But I will pretend to be thunderstruck by it. It's an epiphany.

[Vinnie]

It's a new revelation.

[Tom]

People have been suppressing this kind of thinking for decades. So this is a shtick. It's a different shtick than Candace. Candace's shtick is the Candace Intelligence Agency. I'm like the world's greatest detective. I'm the Pink Panther of my time. I'm deputizing all my viewers also to be detectives. Feed me information. We're going to crack the case. So to me, this is like an intellectual embarrassment because all my life I've been an iconoclast.

[Adam]

I actually think he's absolutely right. That's my opinion. Yeah, but Dineshes who's is a credible guy.

[Vinnie]

Why is Ben. What do you think Ben's so upset about? The fact that he's just speaking with him. Because you made the point. A bad friend to who is he talking about, Charlie?

[Adam]

That's exactly what he's talking about.

[Vinnie]

That's what he's talking about. And here's my question.

[Adam]

I think so.

[Vinnie]

Well, yeah, we're assuming. I don't know, because he's not. Say what you want to say. Because here's my thing, Pat. The beauty about conversations that you've had. You've talked to Bibi, you've talked to him, the spectrum of people from Nick Fuentes, everybody. What? Why doesn't Ben. Because Ben's turned down other times where we wanted to have debates with meaning with Candace or him, he refuses to sit down, sit down with this person, have a conversation. And guess what? If your argument is better and it's going to win because. Hold on, let me ask you a question. Do you think Ben Shapiro would sit down one on one against Tucker Carlson? Ben Shapiro, Tucker Carlson and like that?

[Adam]

They've tried to arrange something. And one of them, because my thing.

[Vinnie]

Is this, Pat, you said who do you think won't.

[Pat]

Can you run a poll? I mean if the audience watches it, who do you think won't agree to a two hour debate? Tucker Carlson. Don't say any opinion. So we get them to think. Who do you think won't do it?

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Ben Shapiro or Tucker Carlson? Put that poll. Because the same guys vote for. I'm curious to know what you guys would think about this.

[Adam]

Who would not show up to the debate?

[Vinnie]

We would not agree to.

[Pat]

Let's just say. Let's just say omega. Megan Kelly says I want to host a debate with Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson. Right. And who would say no to that debate? I'm curious to know how people are going to vote. So continue what you were saying here with Ben.

[Vinnie]

It's conversation. Because he's going to sit there and we heard that two minute rant of his. He's pro speech, pro this, pro that. Then what are you worried about? That he's giving him a platform, that he's asking him questions. Because I think the best thing is to do like what you did. Sit there, find out who this person is. How do they get to where they're saying, why are they saying the stuff that they're doing? Is it for the clicks? And then you let it go. But to say that Tucker is intellectually weak and all that stuff, it's like.

[Pat]

Come on, I have some opinions on this, but. Tom, go ahead.

[Tom]

So Pat, I've been with you a long time and looking at the things there's only so many hours in the day and the things we decided to talk about. One of the things that Pat pushed this year correctly so was the difference of signal versus noise. Let's get the signal of the things that are going to move forward. The company, the lives of the people that are giving this chapter of their career to the company and all the things we do, all the stuff you could talk about. I'm trying to figure out why does Ben wake up one morning and just decide that he's going to put a well constructed show together on Tucker Carlson for putting Nick Fuentes on the show. Of all the things that can be talked about.

[Pat]

I know why.

[Tom]

Of the, the, of the plight of the, I'm going to name two. The plight of the Jews and what's about to happen in New York under Mandami. The, the peace that's coming together, hostages and bodies that are coming home and, and the, the future. Where does, where do we Go from here in the Middle East. How do we get a sustaining peace? He's well versed on so many of these things. Why does he wake up and. And take one day, you know, and more to go after this rather than all the stuff he could be talking about? And Ben is an incredibly smart intellect that can put together amazingly crafted arguments. I'm just as upset as he might be with it. It kind of confused me as why. Why waste your airtime on this?

[Pat]

Do you know why?

[Adam]

Did you. Did you actually watch the. His. I think it was 40 minutes. Did you watch the whole thing?

[Tom]

No.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Tom]

I read. I've read several summaries, but I have not, like, put it on 2x and gone through the whole thing.

[Adam]

I watched it. I think if, by the way, if there were a debate, if there's one thing I will give Ben Shapiro credit for, is that guy debates, right. I'm not saying I agree, but look.

[Tom]

At all the talker.

[Pat]

Tucker answered the point.

[Adam]

Here's the point. He gave the whole. He outlined the whole thing, actually, in my opinion, has nothing to do with Judaism or Christianity or this Ben Shapiro, at the very end, I don't know if we can play it gives this sort of like, impassioned speech. He said, damn it, I've worked my whole life for this, the conservative movement, and I'm not gonna sit here while these people try to ruin it. And that, to me, is what he's talking about. He's basically saying our enemy should be the far left and the woke left and what's going on there. And you're gonna try to fracture the Republican Party and the conservative movement over this nonsense, over this Nazism, this racism, this chauvinism, whatever he kind of outlines. If you go to the last two minutes, you'll hear it.

[Pat]

We're not going to rob. I've taken the war.

[Adam]

That, to me, is what he stands for, is basically saying the midterms are coming up in one year. Exactly. The left is salivating at this internal civil war because don't forget, they call it the woke right for a reason, because it's a mirror image of what's going on in the far woke left. You know, whatever's going on, far left.

[Tom]

The mirror image to the right.

[Pat]

You think Ben is a unifier?

[Adam]

I. That's not the word I would use to describe Ben Shapiro.

[Pat]

You think Tucker's a unifier?

[Adam]

No.

[Pat]

Okay. You think Charlie was a unifier?

[Adam]

One million percent.

[Pat]

One million percent as well.

[Adam]

Well, if you're a reasonable person, you.

[Pat]

Would come to the. I think Charlie was a unifier.

[Adam]

I agree.

[Pat]

I think a lot of people on.

[Adam]

The left think he was a divider.

[Pat]

Here's my. Here's my opinion on this on a couple different things that I go through. Number one, so Ben Shapiro, the more they talk about Nick Fuentes, the more they raise his profile. Nick Fuentes, if I'm his agent, I would say, Nick, phenomenal. Your number one PR rep this week was Ben Shapiro. Send him a $10 GoFundMe and congratulate him, saying, thank you for supporting the cause and raising awareness to who I am. Okay. That's what that is. Number two, you know, I would go and sit down like those trigonometry guys who. Their trigger nometry guys would sit down with me. And we did an interview one time and he came very strong at me. I'm like, that's right after I called it the Daily. You know. Yeah.

[Adam]

And my Constantine did.

[Pat]

Yeah. And I'm like, oh, I got you. And I corrected him. I said, no, no, no. No qualified awards. He said, I'm sorry. I did. Yes. So I don't. So then I'm like, okay, I got what's going on. Because again, I'm not in this community. I'm like, there is a Tucker camp, there is a Shapiro camp, and both sides bowed down to both. Okay, fair, no problem. Then there is the younger Nick camp. And then Charlie is trying to get everybody under the camp to be working together. Okay. I don't know if, you know, when you hear the market talking and there's interest in somebody giving a message, the more you dismiss them, the bigger that person's gonna get. And that's what you've done. Number two, you know, when we. When we were having Benjamin Netanyahu on the podcast, I knew what was going to happen. I knew what was going to happen. I'm not even going to say what some of the stuff happened to us the last six weeks, because I don't even want to advertise what happened the last six weeks. I don't want anybody to talk about what happened last six weeks. It's no one's business. We're going through it. Okay, so when we had Bibi, I would say death threats at an all time high, no question. When Bibi came up, then they agree. All right, Ben wants to come on the podcast. Then when I said, you know, I want to have Nick on, I looked at the booking team after Ben was confirmed, I said, if they cancel, it's because of me agreeing to have Nick on, great. We have Nick on. I show the clips, we have the conversations, everything takes place. Fair interview. You sound like a racist here. You sound like this here. Why are you dropping this word? So he's kind of like, you know, even manning up. Two weeks later, Ben Shapiro cancels. Why? Why do you cancel? So what is the brand? Why not have conversations? We're not a firebrand. We're not. Well, let's see. Maybe next year. No, I'm not interested. Don't big shot yourself. It's unattractive. And by the way, here's what's crazy. I've invited Tucker 50 times. Never has he agreed to come on. And I flew to Maine, so it's not like I'm sitting here and what's the word? Trying to see that, you know, both of these camps have some similarities. Both of them. I think Ben is a very good communicator and debate. Are you kidding me? When the time when that man put his hands on his shoulders, the transactions, you don't think that's a little bit inappropriate? Ben has got some brass and he's had some. Some of the best fiery moments ever. Of course, Ben, when he was young, he's on Piers Morgan. Pierce is about to be here. We're doing a show with them today. I don't know when we're doing it, but we're doing a show with them today. And remember the first time when he was on there, and I don't know if it was years ago, years ago. Constitution. Right. When Pierce went over there. So. And Tucker, Tucker's. Tucker Carlson. Tucker had his moment with Jon Stewart many years ago when Jon Stewart tried to make fun of him. That one right there. Look how young he looks. Not that one. Rob. All the way at the top. All the way at the top.

[Adam]

Yeah, yeah.

[Pat]

Look at Ben when he brought him Constitution. Yeah. Ben has had some incredible moments. Right. With what he's done, both of them. So to me, here's a very interesting thing that's going on. Nick Fuentes, FYI, whether you like him or not, he ain't going away. Nope. Okay. He ain't going away. And he's going to have a voice. Here's the other part. Ben Shapiro, whether you like him or not, he ain't going away. Whether you like Tucker or not, he ain't going away. So now what? By the way, Republicans, you got destroyed last week. Yep. Ready? You got manhandled. Not last week, this week.

[Adam]

Two days ago. Three days ago.

[Pat]

Destroyed last week. Okay. Marjorie Taylor Greene goes out there and she's talking about now she wants to run in 2028 on a firebrand. And, you know, Tom's talking about it could be a Ross Perotype of a moment. You know, what all this leads to. Unless if you guys find a way to get it together, President Trump is not going to go out there campaigning for everybody in 2028 if you can't go win your small little mayoral races and contests that you got. And you're just waiting for, you know, President Trump to come and retweet and endorse you every single time. And you can't come and take on the mantle and go fight. There is. There is some stuff going on the Republican Party. So what's the plan? Is it going to be Tucker's camp, Nick's camp, Candace's camp, Ben's camp, all these other camps that are all over the place, MTG's camp, Thomas Massey's camp, and yeah, some of these overlap. Probably Thomas Massey and Ben, Candace and, and. And Tucker and. And some of those guys will probably. MTG is probably going to be together. I think maybe an MTG is going to be a little bit of a challenger moment there. Ben's camp is going to be one. And quite frankly, when it comes down to Ben, Ben was wrong with Trump in 2016. Ben was wrong with DeSantis in 2020. I would, I would sit down and talk like, what are you talking about? DeSantis in 2024. So they've been, you know, it's not like they've been also right on a lot of these things. Guys, none of us have been. Everybody's walking around like, you know, anyways, I, I just think, you know, right now, if you guys don't buckle down and get locked in, 2025 ain't going to be a red wave. 2025 is going to be a blue wave that comes through because they're watching all these. Let me tell you, Nick Fuentes is right. Let me tell you. Ben Shapiro is right. Let me tell you. Tucker Carlson is right. Let me tell you. Oh, let me tell you. Democrats won.

[Adam]

Yep.

[Pat]

How did this happen? Yep, you did it. So, Mr. Ben Shapiro, respectfully. Mr. Tucker Carlson, respectfully. You know what? Be a great panel on stage is Ben, Tucker, Megan, Nick, Candace. I think Megan can pull this off. I think Megan could pull this off to bring this together. I think Megan's a boss. She's tough, she's strong, and she's been around. The reason why I think she's the one that could pull it off is because she was the face. She was like, she killed it on Fox Crushed. And she's doing great with her podcast. So she has the mainstream and the podcast victory. I think Megan could pull off something like this to bring everyone together. Because at this point of the game, you know, Ben's loyalty, Ben's, you know, of course he's going to be loyal to Israel. That's what he is. He's very proud of his heritage. FYI, you ought to be proud of your heritage. I don't sit there. I'm like, well, he's. Yeah, I. When I say Daily Jewish Wire or Daily whatever I call the Israeli Wire, I do think that's his priority. I don't. I don't say that as in a.

[Vinnie]

Like an insult.

[Pat]

No, I say, listen, I'm a Syrian Armenian, okay? I'm a Syrian and Armenian. I'm a proud Assyrian. I'm a proud Armenian. But, you know, born in Iran, made in America without America. I'm not. I don't have the life that I have today. Are you kidding me? But I understand some of the affinity. I understand if Nick goes after, you know, Tucker's dad, you know, Tucker's gonna invite him to say, hey, man, listen, this is one thing I don't like when you go after my dad. His dad's a hero. I understand Tucker, but I also understand Nick, who's on the outside is like, you guys not gonna give me attention. I'm gonna F1, come after you guys like a freaking gangster, and I'm gonna pull up a Tupac, hit him up. I'm gonna destroy all of you guys. That's Nick. Nick is Tupac. So what do you want to do? What do you want to do? You want to do East coast, west coast type of situation? Is that what you want? Really? Is that what you want? Because I think right now what Ben talked about is he's spending millions of dollars a year on security. Why? Who's creating it? Who's causing it? This isn't healthy. I don't. I don't. I don't. You know, this isn't healthy. So for me, I love the debate. Keep the debate. I love all of that stuff.

[Adam]

But did you see what Megan said about this?

[Pat]

No. What.

[Adam]

Did she address this? She actually had Matt Walsh on her podcast. They spoke for a full on hour.

[Pat]

And what was. What was the consensus? What did they say?

[Adam]

So it was very interesting because she says, I'm friends with Ben Shapiro. I'm friends. I think she talker Carlson.

[Pat]

She's the right person.

[Adam]

And then she's speaking with Matt Walsh of the Daily Wire. It was very interesting. His respective, you know, what is, you know, what he said.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

About Ben Israel, whatever. He goes, yeah, I don't care. I care about America. That's my opinion. That's been my position for 10 years. He goes, I don't care.

[Pat]

So then, so then for me.

[Adam]

But Megan is, I think, someone that can pull this off.

[Pat]

I think Megan is somebody that can pull this off because Megan has Tucker's respect. That's why. Because Tucker respects the fact that Megan made it on cable TV and made it at podcasting and she's a formidable face. She was a moderator. Trump. Hey, you've said a lot of different things about women. No, only Rosie o'. Donnell. That's not true. That's not true. So, yeah, I don't know. I just think, you know, if you go like this and the infighting continues, congratulations, you handed them 2026. And if it continues and you think, oh, you know, a person. Yeah. How mentally emotionally tough and a gangster you have to be to come back and win 2024 election, there's only one guy that could have pulled that off, and it's the guy that won, and he's the president today. You think that guarantees 2028? No. Hell no.

[Tom]

No.

[Pat]

So welcome and by the way, to Ben Shapiro's camp that this is probably going to be sent to. 8,000 people voted, 68% said he's the one that doesn't want to sit down with Tucker. And our audience is fairly fair is what they are. So there you go. I don't know, maybe fairly fair.

[Vinnie]

No, I'm pretty fair. But, but great, great points. And you just like, it just hit me that what you're talking about, about this, the mom Donnie effect and all that stuff. Republicans are all over the freaking map. And there's like the way that you just said it, if they don't come to in any situation, they're. The midterms are not blue way. It's gonna go to freaking Democrats. And then how fast is 2028 gonna come? And Gavin Newsom just sitting at the top waiting for this shit. He is doing it intentionally. I'm not saying that. You scared me, but you just made me go, oh, my God, they're all fighting. Because who, who are all those people going to tell you to vote for? Let's say the presidency comes up, one's going to tell you to go this way, Somebody's going to tell you to go this way. The one Guy that's pro Israeli, they're going to say, go this way. It's going to be so splintered and sitting and waiting in the wings. Is Gavin Newsom going?

[Adam]

Hey, of course.

[Vinnie]

I love this. Is that they're all Hitler. They're all Nazis. Open the border. Come on, guys, let's go back. That's not.

[Tom]

I agree with the point that the, you know, the Republican Party and the conservative movement, I mean, never mind Republican Party, conservatism in America. And the conservative does need unity. A week and a half ago before the election, who do we see doing photo ops together? Aoc, Bernie and Chuck.

[Pat]

Right?

[Vinnie]

Yep.

[Tom]

Walking down the street. And wasn't there three of them walking down the street? Shirt sleeves, people. People, you know, like this.

[Pat]

Why?

[Tom]

Do you think Chuck agrees with Bernie?

[Vinnie]

No, Absolutely.

[Tom]

Mortal enemies. But Chuck undermined Bernie so much in 16 and 20. Absolutely did. And so do you think AOC and Chuck are friends?

[Adam]

No.

[Tom]

There's been people saying that she's going to primary him going after the next level seed if she doesn't run G. And didn't you see that? That AOC and Bernie are perfectly aligned? No, she's too much of a lightning rod on the outside. He's actually stayed where he is. But why are they all walking together, talking nice together? Because they know what unity was needed and their enemy was the loss they took last November. And so the conservatives need unity. We don't need MTG running for president over here like Ross Perot. We don't need this divisiveness that's here. I agree with that point that we need unity and someone needs to do it. And, you know, Pat talking about that, maybe Megan could step it up. I think there's other people that could do it too. But we gotta get people together on the core things.

[Pat]

Yeah, we're outside the core things. Let me tell you what I've learned. Let me tell you what I've learned at this point. We're outsiders and I love it. You have no idea how much I love it. That none of them are like, who are these guys? The same way Ben feels about us is the same way Tucker feels about us. But the difference is, by the way, both of them have had me on. I've had Ben on the show 11 years ago, never had Tucker on. But both sides are like, who are these guys? And I love it. I'm comfortable that this role. We're not. We're not trying to sit here and, you know, when I was coming up in insurance, it's all it's the same exact story every single time. Who the f. Is this Middle Eastern guy with no college degree coming up, taking market share away from us? Who are you? Every year we go to the insurance conference. It was like this. Who are you? Oh, my God. You know, get out of here. Get out of here. And then all of a sudden, boom. Oh, shoot. Now we actually love the industry, and we actually respect you guys. We respect the hell out of you guys that you guys built a business. We admire what you've done. We admire a lot of these guys, what they've done over the years. But we have our own set of opinions, and we're fair, we're respectful. But at the same time, to me, it's very simple. If I don't have a relationship with them ever for the rest of my life, I'm okay as long as America is winning.

[Vinnie]

Yep.

[Pat]

If that's the role we're going to play, we're going to continue playing that role. We're not somebody that's going to sit there and be like, come on, we're going to do this. Nope. We've had plenty of great experiences, and we have very good relationship with a lot of people. I also understand the fact that for some people, they're more uncomfortable. Why? One minute they're here, one minute they're there, they'll call this person out, but they'll call that person. They'll have Netanyahu, but they'll have Nick Fuentes. Yeah. We will talk to everybody, period. And I know you're not going to like it, and I'm okay with it. I made a video the other day with the idea that I'm talking about. I think they need to do XYZ with. You know, I think Israel has a bad brand right now because of how horrible of a job they're doing. Marketing. As the only child, I said, trust me, no one's gonna like my idea on both sides. And guess who hated the idea. Both sides hated the idea. Right. And guess what? I like that. That both of you don't like the idea. We will gladly play in this role of just going up here. Gladly. And continue to do our part. But God willing, Megyn Kelly is gonna make that phone call and host an event and have everybody there. I think she can play the role of a glue, and there's a handful of other guys I would nominate that can pull that off, but I think she. I think she's the head that can pull that off. I really think she's the head that can pull that off and get everybody in. And by the way, bring Steven Crowder. He's coming back and I like the new Crowder. Bring him back. He's back to realizing who he is and what he was doing. Let's not forget at one point, Crowder was the guy and a lot of people remember when he was the guy and he went through a bad season. But I'm kind of glad that he's got his mojo back and he's playing ball. He's a very, very formidable voice.

[Adam]

He's a beast.

[Pat]

I would include him in that as well, for sure. And, but anyways, he's criticized all those.

[Adam]

Guys too, by the way.

[Pat]

Listen, just think about us as a consultant. That's who we are. We're just a consultant is what we do. You can go to beddavid.com literally to learn more about what we do for clients from 60 plus countries. 10,000 businesses, a business nobody knows that we have except for the people that we do engagements for and strategy sessions for. Let's move on to the next story. Next story I want to go to is Jeffrey Epstein. Pretty rough day when this guy, what's his name, Andrew? Is that the one that we're talking about? Jeffrey Epstein? Oh, no, this is a different story. Jeffrey Epstein. Folks, watch this here. Kind of weird. Vinny, I'm going to come to you with this one.

[Vinnie]

Yes, sir.

[Pat]

Claimed Maureen Comey, the daughter of eight, six, four, seven James Comey. Okay. Who thought it was just nice seashells. Didn't know what it means. Nothing. Director of FBI, you know, he didn't know what 8, 6, 4, 7 meant. It's just nice seashells on the beach, right? Jeffrey Epstein claimed Maureen Comey would let him free if he implicated Trump. Ex cellmate said what? Huh? Now let me read this to you. What is this guy talking about? Jeffrey Epstein claimed New York federal prosecutors told him he could walk free if he agreed to implicate Trump. According to his excel mate. After his arrest on child sex trafficking July of 19, Epstein was transferred to the Metropolitan Correctional center in Manhattan where he shared a cell with a ex cap Nicholas Tartaglino, who was awaiting trial before being convicted on quadruple murder charge. Tartaglion, 57, now claims that Epstein, who died a month after being arrested, told him prosecutors that offered to cut a deal if he'd snitch on President Trump, who was then in his first term. Prosecutors told Epstein that if he had said President Trump was involved with Epstein's crime crimes, he would walk free. In a petition to Be pardoned. Tortag Leon claims in a pardon application filed in July and obtained by the Post, Epstein told me that Maureen Comey said that he didn't have to prove anything as long as President Trump's people could not disapprove it. According to Maureen Comey, the FBI were her people, not his, meaning the President's. The papers don't specify what crimes Trump would be implicated in at the time of his death. Epstein was charged with sex trafficking and conspiracy, but was also suspected in a laundry list of other crimes. Any thoughts?

[Vinnie]

Okay, could we just give a shout out to this family? Maureen Comey, her father, James Comey, and I had to write this down. She was. Remember, she was just fired recently, Tom. Right. For the Southern District of New York since 2015. Guess which case is she? Profile cases. Epstein. She was behind that. She was behind Ghislaine Maxwell. And also she's just the Diddy. She's all, yeah, and I get it. That's where. That's her district. That's if she's in. But like, I hope you guys understand what we're talking about here. Epstein was going to get a deal. I know this is according to Nicholas. He was going to walk free. Think of guys really think about that, Tom. They were going to let him go if he just implicated Trump, because this is how deep and how far from 2000.

[Tom]

This is how prosecutions work during. You know, to be fair, this is not unique. Do you not think if there's something up with. With LeBron in the gambling. If.

[Vinnie]

Yes.

[Tom]

Do you not think that they would say to LeBron. LeBron says, if you just let us know who your team were. Teammates in Miami, kids, one of your teammates in Miami. We got a book on him.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Tom]

We're done.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Tom]

And so if you want to just tell us what happened, you know, then you'll have immunity. Chris Bosh, if you want to tell us what happened, you'll have immunity. They're talking. The only reason I'm mentioning those names is not because they've been implicated, but because this is the way the federal government works when they're cultivating and they're trying to figure out their. Their cases.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Tom]

Is they ask one to tell on the other. And in exchange for saving the government time and being honest about that, by the way, if you. If you snitch and you do things and you get a deal from the government, they turn out to be false. There's this little clause where they. They can pull the deal if you basically are found to have been so full of crap and tried to redirect the government or trick them and things like that, they'll come back and pull the deal right back off the table. So this is the way it works.

[Vinnie]

Of course, yeah, for sure.

[Tom]

But this is the way it works.

[Pat]

But trying to.

[Vinnie]

But Tom, look, look at the hate and the disdain for Trump from back to.

[Tom]

Absolutely point me.

[Vinnie]

Yeah, yeah, that, that Tommy, that you're going to let.

[Tom]

Frickin daughter.

[Vinnie]

That's what I'm saying. And you're there. The guy that was behind the whole Russia collusion thing, that was behind the Hillary Benghazi and all that stuff and all the files and all that stuff. When you talk about Deep State, Tommy, that's the guy, it's the Comey, it's the Brennan, it's the John Bolton. These are the guys, they're starting to get exposed. But what drives me crazy is they were willing because I believe it, Tom. I totally believe it. Yeah, the guy's a convicted murderer. But what does he have to in that situation? It's not going to. He's finished for the rest of his life. They're willing to let go the most prolific sex trafficking pedophile just to go after Trump. And by the way, you know what she said? All he had to do was accuse Trump and if Trump's team couldn't disprove it, he'd be pardoned. Okay, Epstein.

[Tom]

And you know, so there's the. If you got to give us enough evidence that we get something that exists like here.

[Vinnie]

And Epstein refused. Think about this, Tommy. Epstein refused and told her flat out Trump had nothing to do with the crimes. Okay. I don't care what anybody else is talking about.

[Tom]

Not the answer they want.

[Vinnie]

And going back to her father, Tom, notice this, right? He's under indictment for lying to Congress.

[Adam]

All right?

[Vinnie]

He was reportedly tipped off. He was reportedly, allegedly tipped off that the massive stash of hidden documents was going to come out.

[Tom]

Yeah. There's a lot of allegations and some specifics in them about Comey that he.

[Pat]

Tom, let him finish.

[Vinnie]

I love it. Thank you, Betsy. He goes. And once he found that out, not long after that he stumbles on a formation of rocks that said 86, 47, which I don't care how gullible or how much you try to play both sides, that is a freaking dog whistle. 8647 means take out the President of the United States. And he played that stupid game, okay. Like I didn't know. And the left freaking believes it.

[Pat]

Okay?

[Vinnie]

This is what's happening. Tom and Pat, I think it's disgusting if it is true. I know it's all allegedly, but that they were willing to let Epstein, Adam Epstein walk if he just. Just say Trump was there and we're good to go.

[Tom]

And you get the mob. Right.

[Vinnie]

That's exactly how they got the map. Yeah.

[Tom]

You go the little guy to get the big guy. So who's bigger, Trump or Epstein?

[Vinnie]

Trump is for them.

[Pat]

It's Trump.

[Tom]

Okay, well then that makes Epstein the smaller criminal. And you're willing to let the small guy go to get this. If New Yorkers knew in terms of the mob, the people that were let go so they could get John Gotti.

[Vinnie]

Oh, my God. Murderers, Tom.

[Tom]

Murderers. So if the headline was this, these gentlemen and their crimes got immunity because we actually were able to convict someone. Everybody goes, wait, what? Flip out.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Tom]

So we could come. And then instead of someone, the headline says Gotti. And then they say, well, they had to get Gotti. And I guess they had to get snitches to go after him because otherwise Gotti's still out there.

[Vinnie]

Exactly.

[Tom]

It's the bigger. They put the little guys to get the big guys. And in that context, regardless of all the heinous, terrible things are happening to kids that you've been so passionate about. Correctly so absolutely, appropriately so. They were willing to give up that guy to get the big guy. Wow.

[Vinnie]

A guy. A big guy that didn't do anything, Tommy.

[Tom]

To them, Trump was the big prize.

[Vinnie]

Yeah, he didn't do anything.

[Adam]

I'm following this. I just have a couple questions. So obviously we understand. Comey. What. What's your opinion or supposition on Maureen Comey specifically?

[Vinnie]

You think she's compromised or Adam 100. My belief. Vincent O' Sean's belief. You think the apple falls that far from the tree when your father was the director of the FBI. And of course, Adam, do you even know who her husband is? These people all hate Trump and they were willing to do anything. Adam. It's still happening to this day. And we fail to. Yes, Adam, I believe.

[Adam]

Who's her husband?

[Vinnie]

I forgot his name, but you can look it up. Rob, who's her father? Lucas is Zakharov. He's. You think this guy likes Trump? This guy is a Trump hater. To the think about it.

[Adam]

You think I see his name Lucas. I don't know anything about him.

[Vinnie]

I don't know why he's. They all their mission. And this is what bothers me, Adam. I think she's compromised. You know why? On top of what happened with the, with the Diddy thing. The goal since 2016 was get rid of this guy. And the fact that they were willing, allegedly willing to let go of Epstein just to get Trump and Adam. Get him for what? Lie. Lie and say that he was implicated with touching underage girls or doing whatever. Underage girls. Cuz that was the goal, Adam.

[Pat]

That was.

[Vinnie]

That's what Russia collusion was.

[Tom]

Was.

[Vinnie]

That was the two fake impeachment was. That's all that nonsense adds up to this. So it's not a surprise to me. It really isn't.

[Adam]

And then one more. We obviously know James Comey. We're starting to learn about Maureen Comey. I've never heard of this guy. What is his name? Nicholas?

[Vinnie]

Yeah, that's. That's that guy that he was in the jail.

[Adam]

You trust him?

[Vinnie]

Here's my question to you. What does he have to. He's not getting. You're not going to get out of jail free. You're not losing any time. He's just saying that this is what, what they offered him when he was in prison with him. This is what he found out. And by the way, there was a document that I saw, a government document, Adam, where they're taking all these notes. Yeah. Adam, just because. Adam, hold on. Ready for this? If I killed somebody and I had to kill somebody or I murdered somebody, what does. I just. You're just not supposed to believe me anymore because I made one crime, so that means I'm lying about stuff. No, he admitted that he's a murderer.

[Adam]

Yeah, he murdered four people. He's in jail for life.

[Vinnie]

So you can never tell the truth. He can't tell the truth about something he saw in his jail cell and a conversation he had with a pedophile.

[Adam]

It's notoriously known, they call it a jailhouse informant. That this is some of the least reliable evidence in court. The least. Why you might be saying, well, why he's in jail for life. Well, if you're in jail for life, you'd be willing to say anything and do anything to get the hell out, would you not.

[Vinnie]

You can never get out.

[Pat]

He.

[Vinnie]

That there's. There's. Hold on.

[Adam]

Ready for the.

[Vinnie]

Hear me zero.

[Tom]

Hear me out.

[Adam]

I mean, Rob, I'm sure you could chat DB I'm just going to go reduce sentences, money, maybe drop charges, lessening charges. A million different reasons that a jailhouse informant, a cellmate would be like, here's my moment in fact. And you can fact check this. I'm assuming that a jailhouse Informant, a cellmate is some of the least credible evidence in a court of law. I'd love you to fact check that. So to me, once I hear cellmate, I'm like, I don't believe this guy. The dude who murdered four people. Adam, do you know sudden, he's your Star Wars?

[Vinnie]

Adam, do you know how many cases. Because I watched the first 48. And all these. All these. All these murder mysteries. Do you know how many times the person open their mouth to their cellmate and they're the ones that ratted them out and they. They. They confess to them or the phone calls that they make in the jail? Adam, this is the situation is. Epstein's cellmate said that New York prosecutors Maureen Comey offered him a deal. He's. He's sharing a jail cell with the pedophile. He knows what conversations are happening. Adam, you're in there with the guy 24 7. He's not making stuff. Yeah, but he's saying that they often.

[Adam]

Need to tell this guy anything. I mean, look what.

[Vinnie]

I mean, I've seen. Adam, you ever. Do you ever shell trust but verify, bro?

[Adam]

I don't trust this guy at all. And I'd verify everything he's doing. Look, Rob, what does it say? I can't see this thing.

[Tom]

Jailhouse informant testimony can be used in court, but it is widely considered one of the least reliable forms of evidence.

[Pat]

Evidence.

[Adam]

Bingo, bro.

[Vinnie]

Okay.

[Adam]

Can't trust his. He. Quadruple murder. You're like, I believe that guy.

[Vinnie]

Yes.

[Adam]

My fault.

[Vinnie]

Let me ask you a question, though. You're sharing a jail cell. You, Adam, and you're a murderer. With Jeffrey Epstein.

[Adam]

No, no, no, no.

[Pat]

You.

[Vinnie]

With Jeffrey Epstein. You're not hearing what you. Hold on. Meaning Jeffrey Epstein goes and talks to his lawyers and. And the federal prosecutors and then comes in his jail cell. Adam. And is doing this. No, you talk to your. That's your new best friend, Adam.

[Adam]

Okay, so, Michael, here's Jeffrey Epstein, kept in contact with the outside world. You think there was this one guy.

[Vinnie]

They're in jail. How long you think they were in jail, Adam? How long do you think they were in jail together in the cell, sharing the cell all day. So my question.

[Adam]

This guy murdered four people.

[Vinnie]

Star witness, bro.

[Tom]

I think we're missing a couple of points here. I mean, first of all, let's not debate, you know, the jailhouse snitch. We can read about that all the time. The story is coming out that. And there's a lot of people that alleged that Comey was more than a Little nepotistic. Getting his daughter into the family business, which was federal prosecuting.

[Pat]

Weird.

[Tom]

Okay. And Comey was also right there with a lot of people that were trying to take down Trump forever. So the notion, Adam, that they're looking for any and everything that can help them take down Trump is not a stretch.

[Vinnie]

That's where I was going.

[Tom]

Assumption it's out there. Was this particular guy in jail going to be the most credible way to do it? No. To your point. Because. Oh, hey, hey. It says right here. They have to tell the jury he may get leniency. He may get a better.

[Adam]

He may get four guys on a. On a dirty cop drug deal that went bad over $250,000 and killed the four people, buried them property.

[Tom]

Adam, step back.

[Adam]

I believe that guy.

[Tom]

Adam, what is it? The story is. It's pretty, you know, there's a lot of allegations.

[Adam]

I want to sell you this beautiful piece of property in the Everglades right here.

[Vinnie]

Trust me, you know what point he's making. I know, but you know what point he's so you mean. You mean you want to go, bro.

[Adam]

You want to end up in a four quadruple.

[Vinnie]

Adam.

[Tom]

Point change the end point. How much?

[Adam]

How.

[Tom]

Wow, that's.

[Vinnie]

What do you.

[Tom]

I'm just trying to take it back to the story. Is it conceivable that Tommy and company were trying to use any and everything to go after Trump?

[Adam]

Yes, I believe that.

[Tom]

Have a lot of people. I'm saying I don't believe the people said that he.

[Adam]

I'm going to live here, guys, and.

[Vinnie]

Say the quadruple murderer doesn't have the highest credibility. I know, I know. We want to move on to another story. If you think it's not conceivable.

[Tom]

We only been 45 minutes on this one. Let's use the whole podcast.

[Vinnie]

Hell, that. The guy, the guy, Russia, collusion, everything, you name it. Comey, FBI, that guy trying to take down Trump, that guy, his daughter wouldn't go to a pedophile and say, hey, listen, just say this and we want to get Trump and we'll help. Hold on.

[Adam]

I believe you. I just don't believe the quadruple murderer guy.

[Vinnie]

Okay, well, that's you.

[Adam]

I want to weigh in on this.

[Pat]

Yeah, let's, let's look, here's where I'm at. When something happens, I get intel from everybody. If an issue happens at the company that we got addressed, like, let's just say crisis takes place. Some people have higher credibility scores than other. Like, I literally put everybody's position and next to this guy's got a 2 score, 4 score 8 score 9 score 10, 7, 6, 8, 9. And we learn everybody's motives and then we make a decision for ourselves. Does this guy have a high credibility score of what he's saying? Probably not. But is it somebody that you want to use the content and see what's going to be said? Yes. Do I believe Maureen Comey is capable of trying to find everything to destroy Trump on the 2024 election when that's the guy that they didn't want to go in there because they knew exactly what he was going to do that he's doing today? Yes. Do you think Obama wanted Trump to win in 2024? No. Do you think Comey wanted Trump to win 2024? No. Do you know, do you think Comey knew that if Trump would win that they're going to go after him to reveal the fact that all the shit he lied about? Yes.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Now this is, both of you could be right. And it's just like let's see what happens. Let's see where they're going to go from here with these types of stories. This, this Epstein thing, you know, more and more stuff that's being dropped, verify, investigate, see if there's anybody else that would sit there and match it and say there's some truth behind it and then we move on. That's where we are with this story here and we can move on to the next story. Next story I want to get to is the following folks, if you're traveling, FAA is slashing 10% of U.S. flights in 40 major cities as historic government shutdown drags on. Rob, if you have the clip on this one here, if you want to play it. Yeah, right there. This is what's going on. And by the way, can you actually see in the comment section, is anybody traveling, did anybody actually ask a question? Has anyone's flight, their plans, has flight plan being canceled or affected today? If you say I'm curious, even if it's less than 1%, if it's 82 people, I want to know if there's, you know, just say no, it's not been canceled and say yes if it has been. Tom, your thoughts on this story with what's going on, how big of a deal is this?

[Tom]

This is a very big deal. Apparently on October 28, ATC employees, air traffic control received their last paycheck and now they're in a non pay position with the shutdown. So apparently some of them are not going to be coming to work and they have to maintain the safety for Americans. You don't want an overworked ATC person working a 12 hour shift, especially if you have thunderstorms in Chicago or in Dallas. And they're trying to direct the safety of all those flights going to land. So now they're like, and I'm Pretty sure I'm 99% certain that what I read in my research this morning was that October 28th is when the first paycheck that they won't get, not their last paycheck, that's going to be the one they don't get. So they're not asking them, Pat, to work for free. And they're saying, those of you that are going to work, great, but some of you aren't going to be here because you're not working for free. That means, guess what, we got to have fewer flights. Airlines, how you do it is up to you with how many tickets have been bought. And you're sure if they're flying a flight from Dallas to Fort Lauderdale and it's always full three times a day, that one's still there. But the flights that were at 20% full, 10% full, those are the ones that the airlines are going to say, okay, I got to take so many flights out of Dallas, where are my lightest loads or lightest flights? And so they're going to do that. And it's kind of a warning to America that says, hey, the, the not warning to America, warning to all of us and our Congress, hey, this is about to get real. Because the FAA also said, pat, you ready for this? You know what the next percentage they mentioned 50% that seven days later, after this first 10%, they could be talking about 50% because of the air traffic control people that are not going to be working for free without a check. And so now then, who controls this?

[Vinnie]

The Chuck Schumer and the Democrats.

[Tom]

Not the shutdown atc, my understanding falls under the purview that rolls up to the President through one of the cabinets. And so the President could allow the pinch to happen to get the Dems to negotiate with him or could just step back and let the pain there. But I think Trump's going to use this to negotiate, Pat. That's what I think. Because 50% coming. I think what he's, that's the number they want Everybody to hear, 10% of the flights this week because some of these guys got their last few.

[Pat]

Rob, can you play this clip? Watch this clip here. Go for it.

[Adam]

There is going to be a 10%.

[Tom]

Reduction in capacity at 40 of our locations. The administrator is going to tell you that it's been, this is data based. This is not based on what airline travels, has more flights out of what location. This is about where is the pressure and how do we alleviate the pressure. And so I want to thank him for again him. In regard to air traffic control, we've.

[Pat]

Had a conversation over the course of.

[Vinnie]

The last month about some of the.

[Pat]

Challenges that we're having in the airspace.

[Tom]

Many of you know that we are 2000 controller short, air traffic controller short, and we have surged our academy to.

[Pat]

Bring more controllers into our system.

[Vinnie]

We are 20% up in controllers through.

[Adam]

The academy thus far this year.

[Tom]

I've also offered air traffic controllers who.

[Vinnie]

Are of the age of retirement a.

[Tom]

20% upfront cash bonus to actually stay on. Some of the best controllers we have.

[Pat]

Don'T retire, keep working for us.

[Tom]

All of that has been reducing the.

[Vinnie]

Pressure on the staffing side of air traffic control.

[Adam]

It's working, but it takes years to.

[Pat]

Bring more well trained certified controllers into the airspace.

[Tom]

The shutdown is having an impact on our ability to maintain those numbers and dent that 2000 shortage that we have.

[Vinnie]

That doesn't make me want to fly, make me feel safer flying at all Right.

[Adam]

Sound like Boeing flights are falling out.

[Vinnie]

Of the sky, falling off. No, but I'm not like, why would you want to fly right now with dumb and dumber, with people that are. Imagine that, like, yeah, no, I'm going to put in an extra couple hours and I'm not going to get paid.

[Tom]

And what he didn't talk about October 28th, a bunch of them aren't going to get a paycheck. So he's saying, remember all summer long you've been hearing about Newark. People say, don't fly into Newark. If there's any, if there's a mere cloud in the sky that looks like a thunderstorm in New York, Newark gets problem. Remember we saw these talking about Newark. That's because of what he's talking about. But the punchline is, hey, look, we got people retiring. We're trying to get people trained. There's been stress in the system and now some of them are going to stay home because they can't get paid. We need a 10%, we need a 10% reduction.

[Adam]

Let me ask you, I mean, I.

[Tom]

Was already hanging by a thread.

[Adam]

Tom, let me ask you, you're the expert on this one. Has the government shutdown affected your life even one iota?

[Vinnie]

My sister's not working oh, sorry, you.

[Tom]

No, I've heard about things like this for you. Me personally, no, but me personally, yes.

[Adam]

Because you personally, no.

[Tom]

My person, my family, no, but I know of people like Vinnie's sister who work for the government and are now in a waiting game on their paper.

[Adam]

So it's affected you how?

[Vinnie]

Affected me with my sister who's literally. She can't go anywhere. She can't leave because they could the next day. She works at Space Force.

[Adam]

Space Force, ladies and gentlemen.

[Vinnie]

And then, and then Adam, I mean, this, this is affecting flight, like flights. And if I do stand up and.

[Adam]

I can't shut down. Affected your life at all.

[Pat]

But I'm not everybody.

[Adam]

I'm not just saying for you, a.

[Pat]

It may. If people that need to travel can travel like this to this weekend PHP event. I got stuff that I'm doing. They're traveling in here today. They should be able to travel.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Okay, so it's not going to affect us. 10% won't. If they go to 100%, 50%, I mean, you're going to feel it. So now, you know, a lot of times certain things happen and you may just sit there and say, it's not doing anything for me, so who gives a shit?

[Adam]

Exactly.

[Pat]

But that's not how life works. You don't have, you know, you don't have kids. So imagine if a. All kids are shut down in America. How are you impacted? You're not. So you have to be paying attention to how it's.

[Adam]

That's ultimately my point is that up until now, the government shutdown hasn't affect average people, normal people, what have you. But when you start missing flights, you start to say, whoa, what's going on?

[Vinnie]

Now it's starting to hit 10% of.

[Adam]

Flights all of a sudden, 50% of flights. When average people start waking up that have zero care in the world.

[Tom]

I think we have a poll. We got like almost votes in our poll now.

[Vinnie]

How's your flight?

[Pat]

25% or no, no, not 25%. That's 500 people.

[Vinnie]

Yep, 500. 500 people are affected due to government shutdown. There you go. It started.

[Adam]

This is the piece is where you're going to start to get the pressure to like affecting average people.

[Vinnie]

What do you think, Tom? Honestly, you, all three of you, what, what is going to be the moment? Because they're not. It doesn't seem like they're budging anytime soon. Trump is not going to give in ever. He's not going to give an inch. Especially when all this billions and billions is going to go to illegals and all this program. How long is this thing going to go? Because I don't see any, any like daylight.

[Tom]

Go back and look at the history of shutdowns. These are the pinch points that you need to get, get our, our elected imbeciles, I mean, officials to, to Congress to cut a deal together.

[Vinnie]

Catch you a question. So, so, so let me ask you mispronounced officials.

[Tom]

Let me ask you a question.

[Vinnie]

So all the airlines, Boeing, all these places are these, like, normally the CEOs are they woke type people because they're, they're going to be making phone calls to their, their donors, right? They're freaking lobbyists.

[Tom]

Like, yo, let me tell you, the president of every airline is a capitalist who looks at the stock ticker every morning.

[Vinnie]

Okay, so they're, they're more conservative.

[Adam]

No, no, they're capital.

[Tom]

You can be, you can be in favor of your stock and your job and still be a liberal.

[Vinnie]

But, but, but what I'm saying is, are they making phone calls to the representative like, yo, listen, like, this is, you guys are starting to affect our wallets.

[Tom]

I would say airlines now are like, hey, man, this is about to affect us. Yeah, you're not gonna like this.

[Adam]

How much?

[Pat]

So right now, it's just who can tolerate most pain?

[Vinnie]

That's it.

[Pat]

It's already the longest record break in shutdown we've had. We can't tolerate most pain. Broke the record.

[Adam]

Congratulations, guys.

[Pat]

All right, let's go to the next story.

[Tom]

Beat your pride Best.

[Pat]

Stephen Colbert insists he's more conservative than people might think and not a lefty figure. We have to believe him. Bryce, you know, this guy doesn't have four for murder. Murders like Taglioni. All of a sudden we have to believe him because according to Adam's theory, he ain't lying, but he's wearing the glasses 100% telling the truth. Here's Stephen Colbert. Go ahead, folks.

[Tom]

You know, the demographics of these shows are interesting too. It's about a third. Third. Third.

[Adam]

It's about a third Republicans, third Democrats, third Independence.

[Vinnie]

I think, you know, old, you know, people perceive me as this sort of lefty figure.

[Pat]

I think I'm more conservative than people think.

[Tom]

I just happen to be talking about.

[Pat]

A, a government in extremists. Yeah.

[Vinnie]

And so what I'm giving you is.

[Pat]

My reaction video to the day. Adam, Adam, do you believe him? Well, you have to believe him.

[Vinnie]

This guy, he's not a murderer.

[Adam]

He said it.

[Vinnie]

But he hates Trump.

[Adam]

Well, of course he's just an average moderate guy who only has 99% of his guests being on the left. That only dismantles Trump left and right. That does syringe vaccines. Of course he's a conservative guy. Listen, Stephen Colbert, you could say what you want. I actually think Stephen Colbert is immensely talented, but he has been completely absorbed by the left and he's perception is reality. I think when he did the Colbert Report and he portrayed this conservative guy.

[Pat]

He'S going a very different angle. Homie, folks, forgive Adam's naivete and support for Mr. Colbert because Tom is about to give you a very different theory.

[Adam]

To be honest with you, I thought.

[Pat]

It was Rachel Maddow that I was looking on. By the way, he did say, what's the difference? Here's what he did say. He says, I don't generally say or do things that I don't mean on the shows unless I'm in character like a sketch. Tom, do you believe him?

[Tom]

No, I believe that. What's going on right now? And also in a related story, CNN anchor has been pushing back on liberal critics. My job is not to take down Trump, says Kaitlan Collins. She was on a podcast on Wednesday or speaking to somebody on Wednesday.

[Adam]

Nissan Minaj.

[Tom]

Yeah, exactly.

[Adam]

Nicki Minaj.

[Tom]

What the moment showed was there was a lot of support for Trump and I think it was jarring for some people to remember that maybe to see that reality of our job is not to sanitize things. When I say, well, this is what you want the narrative to be. No. This is what you want to happen. No. Oh my gosh, give me a break.

[Adam]

Is this the Barry Weiss effect?

[Vinnie]

No.

[Tom]

She is Kaitlan Collins. Yes. It's the Bari Weiss effect and it's also you're not effing profitable effect. And it's also you're not getting a lot of audience effect and it's a lot of, you know, there may be liberals in the CEO chairs but they also have to look at profitability and look and running a profitable network. And ESPN has been cutting higher priced sports anchors for two and a half years saying that they have to get to a more economic outcome because they have to pay billions for get access to sports. So they can't afford to have all these anchors with this. This has been going on. I think everybody is running for cover, trying to appear a little bit more neutral, a little bit more objective, a little bit more to the center. They're all trying to do it. Remember Colbert, everybody's been been threatening about his show being canceled. Or do you think it's going to get canceled and then they're trying to spin it? Never mind. It's been losing money and we've seen all the stats on that.

[Adam]

It was canceled. Colbert was canceled, right?

[Tom]

Yeah, it says so. But in saying. Never mind all that. Never mind all that. Oh, I'm not such a bad guy, you know, I want to be back on. I want to be over here. That's what's going on. They're all sanitizing history and putting a spin on history because they see what's coming. And by the way, the funny thing about Caitlin Collins, she's kind of on a rookie contract. She's not on an Anderson Cooper contract, so. And basically when they offered it for sale, there were leaks and supposedly that. That Zaz was at the Allen Conference in Idaho telling people, and by the way, you can, we'll take care of some of the expensive contracts, but remember, Caitlin's on a more economic contract. So he was actually telling people, hey, if you like her, she's young, she's in the demographic, and she's on a better deal. You don't think, you know who Caitlin.

[Adam]

Collins should know, by the way?

[Tom]

You don't think that they all know this? You don't think they're all sitting back this.

[Pat]

Rob, is this the one that she says, my job isn't to go ahead, go ahead and play this? What that moment showed was there was still a lot of support for Donald Trump. And I think it was darn for some people to remember that maybe, and to see that, but that was reality. And, like, our job is not to sanitize things and say, well, this is what you want the narrative to be, or this is what you want to happen. Our job is just to cover it as it happens and to show you what that was. And I think that Town hall showed people that, like, my job is, like.

[Tom]

Not to take down Trump.

[Pat]

I'm a reporter and an anchor.

[Vinnie]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tom]

With an earpiece and a producer.

[Vinnie]

She's lying sitting there next to another liar, Hasan Minaj. Remember the anthrax story that he said that he claimed white powder was sent to his house and he opened it and it spilled on his daughter and then went to the E.R. turns out he was full of poo poo. Like, I don't like. It's just not your mouth. Yeah, Like Stephen Colbert saying that he's conservative is like Mike Tyson going, yeah, I'm a pacifist. No, you're not a pacifist. You're a fighter. Bro, like, stop lying. And you nailed it. Rob's laughing. You nailed it, Tom. Because they're trying to come back because they know you're going broke.

[Tom]

Really?

[Pat]

Fabricate the anthrax.

[Vinnie]

Anthrax story. Hasamajad.

[Adam]

That's the.

[Vinnie]

Yeah. Involving his young.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Next thing you're gonna tell me that Jussie Smulay didn't get assaulted by four Trump guys in Chicago.

[Pat]

Was it a skit? Like a joke that he made up?

[Vinnie]

No, no.

[Pat]

If it's a joke, I mean, I get it.

[Vinnie]

No, absolutely not a joke.

[Pat]

The core incident of the story, showing up to powder at his apartment. And this stand Uponage claimed the powder was accidentally spilled into his daughter, leading to a frantic richer. We have the New York. However, in September20, Minaj confessed that his daughter was never exposed to the powder and was not hospitalized. He had received an envelope with the white powder. But the dramatic details about his daughter in the hospital visit were invented for dramatic highlight the emotional truth of the fear. He understand. Oh, okay.

[Vinnie]

Like, he's trying to be like. But he's a pusher of Trump and, and, and, and racism and the country was the worst. He's one of those.

[Pat]

Wasn't he the comedian that you do the dinner or something? You know, the White House corresponding respond years ago or six years ago.

[Adam]

Steve Bannon. And when he goes, yeah, I do not see Steve Bannon. Yeah, not see.

[Pat]

Yeah, Steve Bannon.

[Vinnie]

And in fact, he had a prom story. So in Homecoming King, he said a white classmate rejected him at prom because of his race, showing up with a white boy instead. But the woman involved later disputed, saying she turned him down well before the night of the dance. So it's like, it's.

[Tom]

It's.

[Adam]

I don't.

[Vinnie]

I don't believe any of these people. And for Stephen Colbert. Give me a freaking break. I'll respect you more if you just stick to your guns.

[Adam]

I.

[Vinnie]

And say we hate Trump. We get paid to hate Trump even if we're losing money. It's Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. That's it.

[Tom]

Yeah. All I got to say is three things. Trump got paid settlements. Number one. Number two, these networks are in media is unprofitable. Number three, there have been people losing their contracts and getting Jim Acosta and people getting sent out to the backyard for going on two and a half years now, especially DSPN.3, Bari Weiss and the Ellisons, you know, in Skydance. Point four, now they're seen saying, well, my job is not to take down Trump, is to do this. Well, I'M more. More in the center of this one third. One third return is my audience. You're so full of crap.

[Adam]

There's no chance at a third.

[Pat]

A third.

[Adam]

Let me go to audiences.

[Pat]

Let me go to this next story. While I'm going to this next story, you know some news. Rob Gargulia just passed a thousand manex. Rob, please put your tweets. Can you put your tweet. This is the greatest profile picture.

[Adam]

And this guy's definitely not a quadruple.

[Pat]

His three piece suit.

[Vinnie]

Let me see this guy.

[Pat]

Look at this total friendly guy.

[Adam]

Invite him over for Rob.

[Vinnie]

What's it called when the doctors look inside your directal exam Colonoscopy. Rob is getting a colonoscopy right there.

[Pat]

Go manect.

[Vinnie]

Congrats, Rob.

[Pat]

Congratulating. Just crossed a thousand.

[Vinnie]

Nice.

[Pat]

Now with that, the perfect transition for the next three years. Transgender person who used women's locker room Gold's gym stole ex wife's name. Rob, can you first start off with the lady who is in the gym screaming and hollering? I want you to start off because. Yeah. At first you're like, what is she doing? Yeah, watch this one. Go ahead, Rob.

[Tom]

Men.

[Pat]

Grown men with big dicks in the women's locker room. And that's why I'm getting kicked out. And I want to make sure the girls know the.

[Vinnie]

Nobody cares. California.

[Adam]

I think she's a saw that man.

[Pat]

In the locker room. No one's saying, and I'm done with it.

[Adam]

Stupid.

[Pat]

Okay. So me making in front of a man without my permission.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Do you. I understand.

[Adam]

By the way, she's a lesbian. Just so we're clear, I think she came out and said, I'm a lesbian. I'm part of.

[Vinnie]

She is.

[Pat]

Can you show her reaction afterwards so we can show Rob. Show her interview the. The African American lady. If you don't have it, I'll find it. Yeah. She's talking about what happened and why she got kicked out. And she's like, listen, this doesn't make any sense. Like, what the hell is going on? Okay. She's given her argument of what happened afterwards. There's a video of her explaining it. I don't know if you can find a clip or not. I'll try to find it. Rob, if you want to go to the next clip, whichever one you got, do you actually have the clip of the guy?

[Vinnie]

That's him.

[Tom]

This is the transgender at the gym.

[Pat]

Go ahead.

[Adam]

This guy. Did you tell me or not that.

[Pat]

Women like to see Dick asking you questions?

[Tom]

Exactly.

[Pat]

Exactly.

[Adam]

No, now he knows how to be a man, right? Now he knows how to be a man.

[Pat]

Stay out of the women's locker room.

[Adam]

We don't want it.

[Pat]

He needs to have his gym membership revoked with that.

[Adam]

That's the transgender woman. That guy reports. You can't get rid of me for this.

[Pat]

I'm a woman.

[Vinnie]

They're kicking her out. And look, he's going back in the woman's bathroom. California. Adam, where are you? This isn't California, Patrick.

[Pat]

I didn't see this clip.

[Vinnie]

He's California. This is Cal. This is Gavin Newsom's California.

[Pat]

You have a video of the transgender guy speaking afterwards.

[Vinnie]

Like, because he was on tmz, they put him on tmz and he's like, listen, I just. I. I haven't chopped it off. They asked him, have you gone through it yet? He's like, no, not yet.

[Adam]

I think nobody goes full.

[Pat]

So do you have the clip? This. This is.

[Adam]

This is her.

[Pat]

Yeah, this is the lesbian woman, actually, as a woman.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Pat]

She could be a lesbian, but she's a woman.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Tom]

I am woman, Jeremy.

[Adam]

Republican or Democrat or anything, because I'm neither. I'm just a woman who's standing up for women's rights. And I don't give a. What you are if you're a Republican, a Democrat.

[Pat]

I don't care if you support Trump or Kamala. I don't give a.

[Adam]

All I need is people to come together, for one thing is to help women.

[Tom]

Me.

[Adam]

To save women.

[Pat]

Women, Women.

[Adam]

Not men with dicks and dresses.

[Pat]

Women.

[Adam]

Okay, now what do I think about trans? I don't think about trans.

[Pat]

I'm a lady. I don't give a. About trans.

[Adam]

I don't give two.

[Pat]

Well, you can possibly.

[Adam]

Listen, you know, I don't condone that.

[Pat]

Language kindergarten and realize boys have penises.

[Vinnie]

And women have vagina.

[Adam]

I learned that when I was young.

[Pat]

Okay, go ahead, bro. Go above it. Go above it, right? You know the one above it right there? That's the transgender look. Go. Zoom out.

[Vinnie]

That looks like me in a crop top.

[Pat]

That's supposed to be a woman.

[Vinnie]

The one on the right, the guy.

[Adam]

Dad, you can find the times that showed up on the sauce.

[Tom]

I just believe he has fully functioning junk, according to her.

[Vinnie]

I just got him. I just got.

[Adam]

He did it. He did an interview.

[Vinnie]

Yeah, he was on tmz.

[Pat]

Find his interview on tmz.

[Vinnie]

I just got a message right now from somebody that works here. I don't want to give his name. I worked at Gold's gym for about three years in downtown la. They are notorious for letting guys use the women's bathroom. There was a guy I witnessed use the women's bathroom simply by wearing a crop top bra and let me pat. So this guy, this guy, his real name is Grant Freeman. F R E E M A N He's now going by Alexis Black. He, he did all this right? He has quite a record, Rob, you want to look it up. He was charged with multiple drug offenses, including trafficking, possession, failure to comply. He was charged with third degree felony domestic violence and convicted in Ohio in November 2022 for guess what, Brutally beating his ex wife. Breaking her jaw so badly she needed surgery. Now stop it now. Yes, Rob, look up Grant Freeman.

[Tom]

And by the way, he's sure that we're connected here. So this in Ohio, this we, we have allegedly found a connection here and multiple sources are seen to point these. So we're reacting to these sources. Yeah, that this is the same guy's back.

[Vinnie]

Exactly. So yeah, so allegedly this is that he has the record rock if you go on, go on X and look it up. His name lives of tick tock. So the guy's name right now, his female name is Alexis Black but his old name was Grant Freeman. F R E E M A N.

[Tom]

And the sources we've seen is. This is what the sources coming out.

[Vinnie]

Of Ohio, coming out of Ohio that they're saying, Rob, that this guy Grant Freeman was charged with beating his wife and, and giving him a. Robert, did I send you the link of on? I think I slacked it to you.

[Pat]

Wow.

[Vinnie]

Yeah. So beating his wife and then he.

[Tom]

Took her name and then he said guy and now he's Ms. Black and he was Mr. Freeman.

[Vinnie]

Hold on.

[Tom]

If this is that guy, that's a.

[Adam]

That's.

[Vinnie]

God bless you.

[Pat]

Rob, do you have the TMZ interview? If you don't, I found it.

[Adam]

Oh yeah, could you send that to me?

[Pat]

Yeah, it's, it's on. Yeah, I have it. Alexis Black right there. Just send it to Rob if you want to go.

[Vinnie]

And I slack you too, Rob.

[Pat]

So you should see he put makeup on and on on to be ready for tmz. Here's Alexis Black folks. Or what's his real name you say? Tyrone. What was his real name?

[Adam]

Tyrone T. Rome.

[Tom]

Ty Shoelaces.

[Vinnie]

His real, the real name allegedly is Grant Freeman who now goes by the name Alexis Black is his trans name and that's his ex girlfriend.

[Pat]

Let's go. Here's the company where they were celebrating Charlie Kirk's in a back that they didn't want to reveal the videos and they never apologized for it. Go ahead, Rob.

[Vinnie]

Now is one of the people that.

[Tom]

That Tish says she confronted in the locker room. Her name is Alexis Black, and she's joining us now.

[Pat]

Alexis, welcome to TV Live.

[Tom]

Hi.

[Pat]

Hey, Alexis.

[Tom]

So we spoke with Tish, and she.

[Pat]

Said when she came face to face with you, it was obvious to her you were a man. So, you know, I. I don't want to get terribly graphic here, but can you kind of explain, you know, how you appeared? You know, do you believe that she.

[Tom]

Was reading something in that you didn't.

[Pat]

Appear to be male? She perceived you to be such.

[Tom]

Well, first, I told the people that raised me that this is the way that I was when I was 8 years old.

[Vinnie]

And really, I stuffed it down pretty.

[Pat]

Deep and I began using the year.

[Tom]

In February, and I actually relinquished that information to her about, you know, name change. And it says female on my ID and hormones. And I mean, I'm registered as a female with the gym, so. And were you at that moment? Because she told us about a couple of different encounters.

[Vinnie]

Were you fully clothed at that moment? Well, she has become aggressive with me.

[Tom]

On four different occasions, actually, at different locations in Los Angeles at Golden Jim.

[Pat]

But look at that vein on the neck. You know, she bent. He benches too.

[Tom]

Well, I believe I was robed in a towel. And this last time, I was closed the entire time.

[Pat]

Squat at least three plates.

[Tom]

Okay.

[Pat]

You know, I apologize if this is too graphic, but I just think it's important. Have you.

[Tom]

Let's speak truth, baby.

[Pat]

Okay?

[Tom]

Have you fully transitioned?

[Vinnie]

Look at the excuse.

[Tom]

Be clearer when you say that your genitalia. That is a process that requires quite lengthy work. Like, for instance, I sat in a chair and had hair follicles removed from my face for two hours yesterday in a process called electrolysis in order to have that surgery down.

[Pat]

Please stop. I'm good. I've had enough.

[Tom]

Cancer.

[Adam]

Do you have that picture?

[Vinnie]

So, Rob, I sent you what I sent you. So Pat this.

[Tom]

Those are suspicious answers. He didn't say.

[Adam]

Is that her right there?

[Pat]

Vinnie? Him.

[Vinnie]

So this is him. She him.

[Adam]

Scroll down.

[Vinnie]

This is what lives of Tick Tock put out, that this is the guy that has the domestic abuse. Looks pretty much like him without all the hair on his face.

[Adam]

Well, he did the.

[Tom]

So multiple sources are connecting.

[Vinnie]

Exactly.

[Tom]

This guy back in his Ohio time as Grant Freeman, apparently. You know, according to this, there's a mug shot.

[Vinnie]

Yeah, Tish Hyman, the Black the black girl right there, that she posted something Saying Grant Freeman, 32 years old, date of birth 228 1993. From Sentencing County Hamilton, Lebanon Correctional, Ohio failed to comply. Drug trafficking and he has an assault.

[Tom]

And so this is sentencing information and department corrections. So we're not supposing here.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Tom]

The formal. Grant Thornton comes out to LA and it is now in these altercations with this very upset woman. And you can imagine why she's upset if she's encountering, you know, an individual hasn't transitioned and says, hey, that those are. That's male genitalia. That's. That's junk there. And you're in here showering with us. And if you still got your junk, you still have your capability of rape. And so why wouldn't she be upset?

[Vinnie]

Yeah. And gold gold shim. Official gold gold gems is stance is that people can use whatever locker room matches their gender identity. They don't care about safety, they don't care about ding a lings hanging out. Just more the same nonsense. Like right when you think we're done, we're done. California has to prove that.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Vinnie]

They're not stopping.

[Adam]

Well, this is the Chappelle joke. This was the whole thing. He's like, listen, we're good with the L's, we're good with the G's, we're good with the B's or the Q's.

[Pat]

The T's.

[Adam]

The T's are making everything a little bit more challenging.

[Vinnie]

What do you mean a little bit?

[Adam]

I know you have a black lesbian based on basically going ham on the T community. Like, what is going on here? Yeah. And you have some dude, literal dude, who shaves his face.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Puts on some lipstick and he's like, what do you mean?

[Vinnie]

Yeah, I'm a. I'm one of you guys. How Transition. Do you forget that I have a.

[Adam]

No bulge and everything?

[Vinnie]

It's just beyond bulge. California not good.

[Tom]

Never mind that he's got a criminal record for assault against other humans.

[Adam]

That's assault.

[Vinnie]

That's Grant Freeman.

[Pat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tom]

Never. I mean that.

[Adam]

That's what it says.

[Pat]

Free man today. He saw me walk into the woman's room, followed me and called me a bit. I ran out of crying. Wow.

[Adam]

Shout out to Mario.

[Pat]

Wow. Wow. Okay. All right, let's.

[Adam]

What does the bottom say? Rob? That's screaming.

[Pat]

No, I don't want to see the rest. At this point. I. We got it out of our system, guys. We're gonna be okay. Next story I want to get to before we wrap up is two stories. Next one is McDonald's US sales rise but profits fall short as it warns Americans are dining out less. Okay, so if we go, Rob, do me a favor, put a, put a, put a post a poll say, are you dining out less than you were five years ago? Okay, just maybe not even five years ago. Are you dining out less than you were in 2019? Okay, let's see what they're going to say. McDonald's saw key sales metric jump in third quarter as a double down on discount meals. But it fell short on earnings. As a warn anxious Americans have cut back on dining out. US same stores increased 2.4% for second straight quarter. That beat estimates of a 1.9% rise. Though McDonald's attributed this to a larger average check implying diners are paying more for their meals despite the fast food industry value wars. Overall, the same store sales rose 3.6% revisiting a decline of 1.5% previous year. McDonald's CEO Chris Kamjinski said that the results are a testament to our ability to deliver sustainable growth even in a challenging environment. Shares in world's largest fast food chain jumped 2% Wednesday morning. But the golden arches continue to warn that Americans are dining out to but less often, especially on low income diners. We continue to see a bifurcated consumer base with traffic from lower income customers declining nearly double digits in the third quarter. Trend that's persisted for nearly two years. Wow, that's pretty interesting, Rob, when you see that. So Tom, thoughts on this story with McDonald's? Rob, I want to see the poll in a minute as well, if you don't mind, but go ahead, Tom.

[Tom]

Okay, so the first thing is McDonald's has seen the sales rise. That's the top, that's the revenue number.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Tom]

So they're seeing the revenue go up. And if you've been into McDonald's or you've seen them, you can see that the prices of number one to eight, the meal deals that are up there is up. And so inflation has reached McDonald's and not just yesterday, but over the last three years. And it's very, very real. So fewer low income are coming in for basics. And that's been going on, they said for two years, dating back to the Biden administrations and the Biden inflation that came out of the Biden economy, which was the fault of Joe Biden. So you see that's been going on for two years and they're warning and saying, hey, look, low income people are coming in less and less. And our Sales are being driven because our top line sales number is up because following inflation we had to raise our prices a bit. And those diners are still here, but when they say bifurcated, they're saying there's two sides of society, there's people that can afford what's the inflation that's happened and they're still here. And our revenue numbers up a little bit and therefore their stocks up a little bit. But America, the lower income people are coming in less and less. And this has been going on for two years, which shows the stress that the low end people are under. We need paying jobs, we need the things that Trump is putting in place. $1.5 trillion of investment by companies, you know, coming to in America on factories and we need those jobs to happen. And this is the we're coming and they saying this is two years. So this has been going on for two years and Trump's not gonna get it turned around in nine months. But what it shows is that there's two sides to America going on right now. And it's real and it's affordability and it's the exit result of the, you know, the Biden inflation. But we got to recover and there's a new sheriff in town and he needs time for a lot of policies to help.

[Pat]

Rob, what's the poll looking like? Let's look at the poll. What are people saying about if they're dining out less? Oh, they are, huh. Interesting. And that's our audience saying this. It's a very interesting the fact that people are dining out less than they were in 2019.

[Tom]

Pre Covid, right?

[Pat]

Yeah. That's why I asked the question pre covered. Why aren't they dining out less than 2019? Can you go to McDonald's just to see what the prices are nowadays? Let's just go to McDonald's menu and prices. Is there a. Does it show us prices?

[Tom]

Yeah, get an image of the 1 to 8.

[Pat]

Rob.

[Adam]

You know, I don't know, but I'm getting real hungry.

[Pat]

Last time I had a Big Mac was September of 97. Let me tell you that looks.

[Adam]

You haven't had a big Mac since 97.

[Pat]

September of 97.

[Adam]

Oh, you're missing out, Pat. You gotta live a little bit. Trump can hook you up.

[Pat]

Look at that right there. What is it? Big Mac. Are you joking?

[Vinnie]

How much does it say?

[Pat]

8.39.

[Vinnie]

83 9.

[Adam]

For the meal?

[Vinnie]

No, for the sandwich.

[Tom]

For the burger.

[Vinnie]

Eight.

[Pat]

I could make you a pounder. Is eight bucks.

[Adam]

How much is the double double though.

[Vinnie]

How Much is the heart attack for free?

[Pat]

McNuggets is 8.39.

[Tom]

No way.

[Pat]

No way.

[Adam]

That has to come with a combo.

[Pat]

Rob, can you go back and let's just see what these prices were 20 years ago. Is there a way to do that?

[Tom]

Or just say, what about 2019?

[Pat]

Yeah, maybe go to 2019. How much have prices of. How, how much has prices of a big Mac at McDonald's increased the last six years?

[Vinnie]

And just FYI, if I get another message, Deli said Uber Eats and delivery apps have better deals than if you go in person. It's better if you stay home and order it.

[Pat]

So 21% is by year, though, because if it goes from. It's not 529 today. Well, on their website it says 8 bucks. So 439 was the price in 2021. 20 2019. Go on the website. Rob, are you sure that's just the price for the Big Mac or is that a meal? Let's see if it's. Read more.

[Adam]

That's got McDonald's.

[Vinnie]

No, that's the classic beef nutrition.

[Tom]

672.

[Pat]

Okay, so 672 from. What number was it for?

[Vinnie]

For something in 2019.

[Pat]

And what, what was it. What was it in 2000 and what was it in 2015? Because that's 10 years.

[Vinnie]

I won't say 275.

[Pat]

What was it in 2015?

[Tom]

What?

[Pat]

Okay, so that's relatively the same. Go to. Go to 1999.

[Vinnie]

A lot of people.

[Pat]

Prince, go to 1999.

[Vinnie]

You have. A lot of people are gonna buy Big Macs today because of this.

[Pat]

Let's see this one. 1999 was 245.

[Tom]

Wow.

[Pat]

Listen, if we can go back to 1999 prices, I'll buy a Big Mac.

[Vinnie]

Let's go.

[Pat]

But I can't do the six dollar stuff.

[Adam]

You don't take your kids. You don't take your kids to McDonald's.

[Vinnie]

And give them poison nuggets. You want to give them poison.

[Adam]

Your kids don't get Happy Meals.

[Pat]

Are you actually being serious?

[Adam]

I'm being serious.

[Tom]

You don't.

[Adam]

Your kids don't go to McDonald's.

[Vinnie]

Listen, have you seen how in shape his kids are?

[Adam]

Believe me, Tico kicks my ass.

[Vinnie]

Dylan's calves are bigger than my body. This guy's all. You think he's eating nuggets?

[Adam]

You're telling me that Santa's like, I want a Happy Meal.

[Pat]

She doesn't get it in Dallas. Maybe I don't.

[Adam]

Let me actually take him to in and Out Burger.

[Vinnie]

That's a whole different situation. In and out.

[Adam]

Burger.

[Pat]

How often, how often in the last 90 days have you taken the kids to McDonald's? I'm actually not curious, by the way. Let's see what's going. I saw fights about to break out live, by the way.

[Vinnie]

I don't know if you guys shout out to McDonald's though. I saw somebody take a Big Mac and they put it like in a glass case and put in the attic for nine years. Nothing changed, nothing happened. And then they poured hot smeltering lava on the bun. It just flew right off.

[Tom]

That's true.

[Vinnie]

That's not good, Adam. Lava should go through.

[Pat]

But does that drop the index that I think Humberto sent, is that shown like what the prices are? Yeah.

[Tom]

Across different countries.

[Pat]

Let me see it. Zoom in a little bit from the highest to the lowest. Switzerland is the highest. Argentina. Uruguay. We are the sixth highest. Who's the lowest?

[Vinnie]

Royal?

[Pat]

Go all the way to the bottom. North Korea.

[Adam]

They use a Taiwan.

[Vinnie]

So dumb.

[Pat]

India is 262. India is 262. Interesting. 262 in India.

[Tom]

Probably not a lot of beef.

[Adam]

Look at Ukraine. Look at Ukraine. See, things are looking up in Ukraine. Big Mac 286.

[Pat]

Okay, there you go. So that's McDonald's for you.

[Adam]

So did Jed answer the question?

[Tom]

You know, in India.

[Pat]

But yeah.

[Adam]

So what do you think the answer is? Because I don't believe our audience.

[Pat]

I, I want to say three times maybe in the last 90 days.

[Adam]

Okay, all right. Once a month.

[Pat]

That's 90 days.

[Adam]

That's fair.

[Pat]

It has be to, to be a special. First of all, do you know what time Dylan went to sleep last night? 1am what's that guy doing? Guys, I, I, the guy had four hours of homework to do after his soccer practice was done at 9:45. We stayed up till 1am like he come he would by the first of he did hour and a half tutoring right after school to finish up his homework and another three hours last night.

[Vinnie]

1.

[Pat]

By the way, the kid will not go until he wraps up his school.

[Adam]

You know what he deserves for all that respect?

[Vinnie]

I'll tell you.

[Pat]

Big man, Happy meal, bro. Know I will take him to some other places, but we ain't going to the, the, the Big Mac daddy type of stuff.

[Adam]

Dylan, keep doing your homework.

[Pat]

Yeah. Uncle Adam's going to take you for a happy one. Oh wow. Look what Jen said. I want you to see the text. What's the answer? What's the answer?

[Adam]

Zero.

[Pat]

Good. What does she say?

[Vinnie]

Next.

[Adam]

When are you coming home, Daddy? I'm sorry.

[Pat]

So stupid. Daddy's home maybe once a year, maybe one.

[Adam]

Wow, Jen, good for you.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Just to clear the air here, are you just anti McDonald's? Are you anti bad fast food?

[Pat]

No. We made a decision a few years ago to try to make the diet for the kids better. We. We had. Our kids haven't had cereal for almost three years.

[Vinnie]

And like I said, they look.

[Pat]

One cereal in three years, one cereal for three years.

[Adam]

Hey, hey.

[Pat]

By the way, I love my Cocoa Krispies. It's Cocos are chocolatey fruity Pebbles, cinnamon toast cross. By the way, stay focus, guys.

[Adam]

Does get her ice cream though.

[Vinnie]

And she dances while she can.

[Adam]

We give a shout out to our our restaurant yesterday in Miami. Sexy fish.

[Pat]

Sexy fish.

[Adam]

Forget about.

[Pat]

Well, they knew a guy at the table was going to jail and they kept.

[Vinnie]

Yeah, yeah. One of our friends.

[Pat]

Do you have that skit of you guys in the bathroom?

[Vinnie]

Who has it? So check this out.

[Pat]

I tell these guys, I don't know if you guys been to sexy fish shot out to those guys. They're great guys. So right after America Business Forum, I'm done. We go over there to eat some good sushi and I go upstairs in a bathroom and I'm like, what the hell is guys. You know how you go to the bathroom and there's a guy that's asking for money called. Yeah, I don't know, $5. He Pitch. This guy had an attitude, by the way. He pissed Vinnie off because of what happened in the past. Apparently you guys had a connection from previously what he had done to you.

[Vinnie]

Which is the same girl.

[Pat]

Do you guys have this clip or not?

[Adam]

Yeah, I just sent it to Rob. It was an unfortunate case.

[Pat]

Are you comfortable with me showing this? I don't want to put you in a position like this.

[Vinnie]

I just. I just. I don't like awkward moments.

[Pat]

Number one that I brought it up. I don't even want to bring it up. Let's just move on. If you're good with showing, that's fine.

[Vinnie]

That's fine.

[Pat]

Which one is this?

[Adam]

It's the first one. Yeah.

[Pat]

Okay, so go ahead, Rob.

[Adam]

He's an emotional guy.

[Vinnie]

Just look at him. Why'd you staring at me like that? Is he like sleep with everybody's girl, bro? No, but he's cool like that. Like that, bro. Stop, man. Daniel Craig just giving me the mean. Always trying to hook up with everybody's girl. He's just in there all day, by the way.

[Pat]

Second video moment, you walk in to the place. You see that guy? Yeah, yeah.

[Vinnie]

Scared the hell out.

[Pat]

What is this place called? Blueface?

[Adam]

Sexy.

[Vinnie]

Fit sexy.

[Adam]

Can I give Vinnie a quick little shout out?

[Pat]

Here we go, guys.

[Adam]

We're there. At what time were we there?

[Tom]

Three o'.

[Adam]

Clock.

[Pat]

Three, yeah, three o'. Clock. It took us 10 minutes to get there.

[Adam]

Yeah, of course. Yeah. Mat was totally right.

[Vinnie]

Jessica was the waitress and she was, she was great.

[Adam]

She goes, if you don't like my service, call me. Mat.

[Tom]

He's trying to do his job.

[Adam]

Kidding.

[Pat]

First of all, Vinnie goes, if. If there was a fight, I do think Mato can hang.

[Vinnie]

Oh, Mateo, go ahead, go ahead.

[Adam]

Got no issues with Mateo. He just. He just go ahead. Timing.

[Vinnie]

He loves most of your balls.

[Pat]

10 minutes.

[Tom]

Vinny goes, dude, yeah, yeah.

[Adam]

The women here, by the way, it's brick Old Miami downtown.

[Pat]

I'm like, that's what you're going to see on camera.

[Adam]

I'm just saying that's what you. The women here, incredible. I go, vinnie, this is the 3 o' clock PM shift. And even the. The Matro D, the hospital goes, wait, you come tonight at 10:00'?

[Pat]

Clock?

[Vinnie]

Yeah, like I'm going to hang out. He's like, Vinny's like, I'll be fast asleep by then.

[Adam]

I got.

[Vinnie]

Yeah, 10 o'.

[Adam]

Clock.

[Vinnie]

I'm the 10 show up at 10.

[Pat]

The 3 show up at 3 up. Can you finish it up? We're just giving a shout out to Nancy Pelosi, the greatest trader in Congress ever. Her ability with the investment she made and we love you, Nancy. Life changing. I don't think she gets enough credit. I think we do need to give her love. Rob, is this.

[Tom]

If she had been in charge of Social Security, it wouldn't be in this mess.

[Vinnie]

Yes.

[Pat]

Rob, what is this right now?

[Tom]

This is her announcing her retirement. And then I also have a clip of her talking about the President.

[Pat]

Did you intentionally pause the picture with her?

[Vinnie]

Looks like a. Like, go ahead, Rob.

[Pat]

Just play. Go ahead, Rob.

[Tom]

She has no teeth. I will not be seeking re election to Congress.

[Pat]

No way. With a grateful heart, I look forward.

[Tom]

To my final year of service as your proud representative. Thank you, San Francisco, for trusting me to be your voice in Congress. May God bless you and may God bless the United States of America.

[Pat]

And then is this a one on one where she gives credit to Trump for her career and all the accomplishments? Go ahead, Rob. It's just a vile creature. The worst thing on the face of the earth anyway. You think he's the worst thing on the face of the earth.

[Tom]

I do, yeah, I do.

[Pat]

Why is that? Because he's. The President does not honor the Constitution of the United States.

[Vinnie]

In fact, he's turned the Supreme Court.

[Pat]

Into a Roe court.

[Tom]

He's abolished the House of Representatives. He, he's chill.

[Vinnie]

Okay.

[Pat]

So now and then this is what Federman had to say, which nowadays Federman is a sound of reason on, you know, when it comes, if you, if you want some reason, a go to this guy sweater, go ahead, go ahead.

[Tom]

I would say that's part of the worst creatures on the face of the earth or Hamas or like the leadership of Iran or there's a lot of people on that. I would never use those kind of a terms. And, and I would describe our president. You can really disagree with him. And I do disagree, but I don't think that's really entirely appropriate. But that's her words for that. So for, for me that's just a different kinds of a Democrat. For me, I don't going to call people their fascists, they're Nazis or compare the people in those kinds of terms.

[Pat]

Okay. President Trump said for almost four decades, he almost started with four score years ago because you know, she's been around for a while. Nancy Pelosi has served American people and worked to make their country better. No one was more skilled at bringing people together and getting legislation passed. And I will always be grateful for support on Affordable Care Act. She made us proud to be Democrats. And we'll go down to history as one of the best speakers House of Representatives has ever had. Nancy, thank you for your leadership and friendship. Michelle and I wish you and Paul the best in the next chapter. Tom, are you like, and I know this is sentimental to you, are you going to miss her?

[Tom]

No, I'm not gonna miss her policies. I'm not gonna miss her divisiveness. I'm not gonna miss that side of it. I will say this, we need to turn to history and look at it as the female speaker of the House. That was a huge accomplishment as a young girl that wanted to rise up and serve in government. She made it there, she stayed there. We can say a lot of things about her portfolio. Facts on the table. We can say a lot of things about her policies, facts on the table. And we can say we disagree with her. But the one element that I will give her credit for is a young girl wanted to go serve and wanted to make it and she did. And what she did with that power when she got there, I don't think was entirely good for all of America. And I'm not going to miss her, but I'll give that balanced assessment. And I think one of the big accomplishments was also from her husband Paul. You know, who knew that if your house is trying to be broken into at 2am you're supposed to pour drinks, take off your pants and mingle. Most people go for the gun, you.

[Pat]

Know, that's where you're gonna go.

[Tom]

So I will say this. There are things that are odd, but I meant what I said about her. I mean she, she became female speaker of the House and she, you know, and she had a lot of power there. I'm not going to miss her policies and the way and what she did with that.

[Vinnie]

Oh, her district is absolutely disgusting. If you look at her district, it's absolutely. There's people on the street, there's homeless people like Pat, this is Rob, you could just.

[Tom]

There's a lot of different report cards that are fact based.

[Vinnie]

Yeah, look at this guy. This is a lady that's traveling to work daily in Tenderloin San Francisco. This is her district and it looks like a zombieville. People on the street, garbage in the streets. So this is Nancy Pelosi. All she, mind you, I give you credit, Tom, for saying that, man, what a she did for the Democratic cause and what they want and all the illegals and bowing down the BLM and all. She did a fantastic job and she's been on the taxpayer role for 38 years, earning a salary of $174,000 a year. She is leaving what was lower when she started.

[Tom]

That's today.

[Vinnie]

Yeah, that's today. Her net worth in 1987 was $165,000. Guess what it was last year? $280 million. So you want to talk about vile creatures that, that cheat the system and do all the thing to get ahead and meanwhile her district of San Francisco looks like that. Ladies and gentlemen, Nancy Pelosi.

[Tom]

Boy, that kind of money, they could afford an alarm system at the house. They wouldn't have had to answer.

[Vinnie]

There you go. Well, there you go.

[Tom]

Drinks and all that.

[Adam]

Yeah, well, listen, I, I'm not as hard on Nancy Pelosi as maybe you guys. I, I don't think I'm, I'm not a fan, but I will give her credit where credit's due. I think she's the first female speaker of the House ever. I, she's been serving in Congress on what, 40 years?

[Vinnie]

30.

[Adam]

Crazy 38. You know where I actually developed a little bit of respect for Nancy Pelosi. Was when she visited Taiwan. This was I think in 2022. And this was right at the height of China and this and that. And I think she or China warned her, do not go to Taiwan. Do not show that there's alignment with the US and Taiwan. And Nancy Pelosi said, screw you, China, I'm gonna do what I gotta do. That was a gangster move on her end. There's obviously we could critique her on what's going on with the stock trade and everything. Yeah, there she was right there. That was a gangster move. I mean, we could rip her to shreds in a lot of things, especially no clap for Trump. But you know, there's some, some things that we abide by here at valuetainment that Pat has taught us. Php, you say outwork, out, improve, out, strategize, outlast. She's done all that. The one thing I would say that she probably has not necessarily done was out, improve. But she's definitely outworked, out, strategized and outlasted a lot of the people out there in politics. And it's not for everybody.

[Pat]

Politics is nasty. You gotta learn how to fight. It's dirty. And she's wrestled with the best and she's been the nasty one as well. Yeah, Leading the way. But you know, we will wish her nothing but the best. I do want to show this question from Manek that was sent in there. Tom, I'm going to come to you with this one and see what you're going to be saying. So this is from Greg Van Leuven. Greg Van Louven, great name. He says, one of my best friends was born and raised in the Bronx. Tom, I want a two minute answer. I don't want to be a long and I'm going to show something before we wrap up.

[Tom]

Okay, I'll give my version that Adams.

[Pat]

Yeah, that's perfect. One of the best friends was born and raised in the Bronx and was running, has been running a small business, under 10 employees doing tours in New York City over the last 10 years. For someone like him, where the politics governing the city makes a massive difference on their livelihood, but where he doesn't necessarily have the means to pick up and leave, what would your best advice be for him and his family over the next four years?

[Tom]

So if you're running a tour guide business in New York, you know everyone is not leaving. It's not going to become a ghost town. And you may need to adapt your product to the consumer. And perhaps you need to now move that tour guide to Things that. That liberals would like to see and remember. Michael Jordan said, republicans buy sneakers, too. So if you can't pick up and move because of the course of your business, you know, you can respond to the market, and you don't have to like everything about the market. But as Michael Jordan said, Republicans buy sneakers, too. I would adapt myself for the people that want to be there in New York and that maybe are coming to visit and adapt your. Your tours for them. And if you absolutely, positively can't move and can't go anywhere else, that's. That's where I would go. But I will say this. There's a tremendous amount of great stuff going on in Miami. And if you made it down to Miami and the tours that you could go on Miami and seeing what's happened down there to the Freedom Tower, that's at Miami Dade College, which was a symbol for the people that came from Cuba, you can do it. But if you can't pick up and move, adapt yourself to the consumers that are there and do your best.

[Adam]

You. You could just learn a couple words. If you're going to continue the tours, just learn. Asalam alikum. Alikum salam. Just.

[Vinnie]

And then you just be like, here to the left, there's a thousand people running in to get free groceries at the bodega. They're all beating the crap out of each other.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Vinnie]

And then over here, they're all praying on the street.

[Adam]

Sorry.

[Pat]

By the way, part of it made me think about the other day. I don't know why Wonder Girls wanted to watch the movie. Was it breakup? Is it Breakup with Vince Vaughn and Jennifer Anderson? You know what they did in the movie? Vince Vaughn is a tour guide.

[Adam]

We're gonna take over Chicago by land sea.

[Tom]

And her girlfriend tells her, go to this clinic and ask for the telly Savalas.

[Vinnie]

Oh, yeah, that's right.

[Pat]

And.

[Vinnie]

And there's the. There's the Statue of Liberty. Yes, she does have a Burke on now. And then if you just look really close yourself.

[Pat]

Okay. We got out of control. Vince always does this, man. He's just a man. We love you, Vince V. Best of the best of the best. Anyways, okay, gang, some good news for you guys. All of a sudden, we started getting all these asks with everything that was going on with what is the event that happened recently that mafia was tied to the gambling? They said, Pat, is the Mafia States of America out there. Can we find a way to get access to it? So here's what we're doing. If you haven't seen this. This is the first time where Sammy Dibol Gravano and Michael Francis, after years of talking to both of them, agreed to do a sit down of two and a half days. The footage we had, 24 hours of footage that we put into 10 different episodes. They got in deep talking about politicians, their role. Talking about what used to be illegal, that's now legal, being used by a lot of politicians. It was actually very, very insightful. And it was a first documentary series that we did. It did very, very well. But we're going to be releasing it on Spotify for free. But I want you to watch the trailer when we did the sit down. Go ahead, Rob. There's an old saying, it's better to beg forgiveness than ask permission. Well, a Cosa Nostra does neither.

[Tom]

That's why Patrick McDavid knew the story of La Cosa Nostra had to be told.

[Pat]

What is Cosa Nostra to you? And does it still have the same meaning today as it did back in the 80s?

[Tom]

He knew there were only three men.

[Vinnie]

Alive who could do the story of justice.

[Tom]

Cosa Nostril is an evil.

[Pat]

We built cities.

[Vinnie]

New York, Chicago, Vegas.

[Pat]

They infiltrated our politics, they infiltrated our businesses.

[Adam]

They infiltrated the church.

[Pat]

Betrayal happens all the time. Is that inevitable?

[Tom]

It happens all the time.

[Pat]

For the first time anywhere, you will.

[Tom]

See a sit down between two made men. Not just soldiers in the mob.

[Vinnie]

You're not me.

[Pat]

You, you can't sit down with me.

[Tom]

But real bosses.

[Vinnie]

You're not the underboss anymore, my friend.

[Tom]

And the man that brought it all crashing down.

[Adam]

There are a few people that are genetically inherently bad.

[Pat]

Bodies flying all over the place.

[Tom]

They found Joe blowing a trunk.

[Pat]

45, 50 dead bodies all over river.

[Tom]

Wow. Don't point your finger at me.

[Pat]

Or what are you gonna do? What am I gonna do?

[Tom]

I'll break.

[Pat]

We say a lot of these mafia.

[Vinnie]

Guys could have really accomplished a lot.

[Pat]

If they'd only gone straight.

[Adam]

That's half true.

[Pat]

This is the real Lacrosse of Ocean. This was a great project, man. Very exciting project, Rob, when are we releasing it?

[Tom]

This afternoon. It'll be up on the valuetainment Spotify account. I just put the link in the description.

[Pat]

So, first episode goes live this afternoon?

[Tom]

Yep.

[Pat]

Six o'? Clock.

[Tom]

Yes. And then we'll release the rest in the following week.

[Pat]

So each day you're gonna release an episode that goes out, right? Because that's 10 of them. Fantastic. One of them will be released this afternoon on Spotify. For those of you guys that are interested. Go watch it. Do not miss it. It's freaking amazing. Amazing content. Having said, that, Piers Morgan interview should be coming out here soon as well, with a few other announcements. Have a great weekend, everybody. We'll do this again next week. God bless. Bye bye. Bye bye.