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Patrick Bet-David
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Adam Sosnick
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Adam Sosnick
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Patrick Bet-David
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Adam Sosnick
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Vincent Oshana
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Adam Sosnick
All right, let's see if this is going to work out or not. Podcast can you guys hear me? Vinnie. Okay. All right. What episode is this? Rob, I'm curious, what number are we on? 525-525. Fantastic. Okay, great gang. Hope you had a merry, merry Christmas. To everybody out there that's tuning in, to the crazy people that are watching this day after Christmas, to the committed, to those of you that are saying while everybody else is sleeping, I want to find out what's going on in the world and I want to hang out with these guys. We appreciate you. We hope you had a great Christmas. We hope Santa came through. We hope you, a representative of Santa came through for your family and friends as well. We had a great time with the family here. There are a lot of things that's going on right now that we're going to talk about on the podcast today. Many different stories. The one story that I'm really excited to go a little bit deeper on is how President elect Trump is using Panama Canal as a form of a negotiation. And I just love that he's going there. We're going to talk about that. There's a lot of history with Panama Canal and there is a angle which I believe is the Carnegie Rockefeller angle, which I'll tell you once we get into that topic. There was a tragic event in New York subway where Governor Hochul comes Out. She's like, look, it's safe. Use the subway. You have nothing to worry about. It's great. Boom. Right afterwards, what happens? A man who was asked to leave under Trump, who was let back in under Biden, lights a lady on fire and she dies. And he. I mean, it's just a tragic. We're not going to play the clip. Some of you guys have probably seen it, but we have to definitely talk about what happened there, which we will. Newsom was confronted on the $24 billion missing. You got to see the reaction here. And those of you in California, they did do something good, which is great. There was this two girls that were shoplifting, and they're like, wait a minute. We just, what's the big deal? This is not a felony. And they're in the car, in the cop car talking to each other. Did they change the law? Is this now a felony? California changed the law. And people who were robbing others are now getting a felony, which is actually a good thing for the state of California. Stephen A. Smith. Stephen A. Smith said he regrets his vote for Kamala. Okay. And he's saying this while he's negotiating for his contract with Disney and ABC and Bob Iger. I have a point of view. I think I know what's going on. We'll talk about that and we'll play the clip anyways. I may be wrong, but I have an idea on what's going on there. We'll see. Don Lemon is going out there interviewing others about the media and all this stuff. He runs into somebody who confronts him and he doesn't like it, but he still posts it. And you got to respect it. But the reaction to it, it's such great commentary and such a beautiful moment caught on tv. You got to see it. This, this husband and husband, this, this gay couple who adopt boys story comes out. It's such a disturbing story to even talk about that we will go to it later on when we do. You got kids, you can tell them to do earmuffs while we're going through the stores or maybe even have them listen to it. I would have my older son, 12 and 11 year old, actually listen to it to see what's going on out there and kind of get their thoughts on it. There was a clip on 60 Minutes with a Mossad agent talking about what they did with pagers. And it's an interesting one to definitely watch. Nick Fuentes, we haven't even reacted to it. Apparently somebody knocked on his door after having killed three people and was there to take out Nick, but Nick was doing a stream. We got to talk about this because there's a lot of people that are screaming nowadays around the world, and it's a different season we're living in, but we'll definitely talk about that. Orlando. In Orlando, a drone, guys, I don't even know if you saw that a drone fell on a kid. Kid had to go to the hospital and do a heart surgery. You know these drone shows that people do. Drones started raining on people. Rob, if you got the clip, let's get that ready. Later on we'll get into it. I'm actually curious to know what the thoughts are with these drone shows. We were about to do a drone show at our Vault conference event at the breakers, and at last minute we decided against it. But we'll talk about that. Trump's 25% tariff on Canada could hurt the auto industry. We'll talk about that. Teamster boss sits down with Tucker and tells the Time where he's talking to Kamala about whether they're going to get her support, their support or not. And Kamala's answer, you have to see what she told the boss, which is interesting. It's revealing. And then there's a massive strike going on right now with Starbucks. 60 stores have already closed down. I think another 300 are going on a strike right now as we speak. It is a real thing. And an Azerbaijan had a plane that crashed that had 62 passengers and five crew members on, and it brought out 150 emergency workers. 45 vehicles were involved for the rescue. 38 people at the number as of a few Hours ago, dead 29 survived. There's an investigation going on to see what happened there. Those are all the stories. Having said that, before we get into the stories, couple things I want you to know about. For those of you that bought our gear yesterday, we wore the Future looks Bright. What do you call it? Christmas gear for everybody. It was sick. Rob, if you can go to vtmerch.com and go to the Future Looks Bright pajamas that we had on. It was absolutely awesome. We took a family picture together. And then these sweaters, these sweaters that say Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas. Our entire family was wearing this while we went to Disney World, while we went to. What do you call it, Universal. And we'll give you a little bit of insight in those two as well. But the pajamas, the Christmas gear, a ton of things that are going on right now is the end of year sale. That happens right now. Okay, that happens right now. 50% off. Select items for you to go take advantage of. Some of the items are going to be like, wait a minute. That's 50% off. It's 50% off, but it's only going to last four minutes. Not going to last a long time. First come, first serve. So for some of you that are wanting to buy gifts and some of you guys that are the type that are very, very overly prepared, like my wife, go buy this stuff for next year so you're ahead of the game. You'll save yourself 50%. Today is when the wise people spend money. Today is when the wise people go in best and save that 50% for next year. And anybody who places a purchase over $200 gets a $50 gift card. The first 50 that place the order over $200, get a $50 gift card today. So go to v teammerch.com and place your order. I love seeing people around the world sport the gear. Future looks bright. And everybody is starting to say, future looks bright. It's becoming a thing. We want a million people around the world to wear that. If you're somebody that's a fan of us and what we do and what we stand for, go out there and support some of that future looks bright gear, hat, shirt, whatever it may be for yourself. Okay? So let's get right into it, gang. Yes.
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Tom Ellsworth
Before we get started, you know, I'm gonna say one thing. Just I'm in New York, so I don't want people to hear me. Hey, Merry Christmas, guys. Merry Christmas. Okay, I don't want. I was wearing this shirt, and people got upset. I said, what do you mean? Merry Christmas. I'm Jewish. I do. What are you talking about? No, it's Happy holidays, sir. Sir. Happy holidays.
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Adam Sosnick
Well, it just says who you hang out with a lot. They roll their S's. I don't know why you. But it is what it is. Like I said, 70 podcasts, we go to judge. We do not judge. We respect your choice on where you have Christmas.
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Tom Ellsworth
Anyway, I want.
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Adam Sosnick
I want to start off with Stephen A. Smith. I want to start off with Stephen A. Smith. I want to start off with Stephen A. Smith. So let's get right into it, Rob. Here's Stephen A. Smith talking about his regret for the vote on Kamala Harris. Okay? So we know he says he voted for her. We know we had him on the podcast. We talked about a lot of different things. I asked him if your mother. If his mother. That's his hero. Who I always. When I'm having dinner with Stephen A. The way his mannerisms are. It's unbelievable how he is at the table, how he is carrying himself around other people so respectful. Somebody raised him right. His mother that he always praises. He even said if his mother was around today, she may have voted conservative if she was around today. But watch what Trump is. Watch what Stephen A. Is going through right now. Rob, if you got the clip of Stephen A. Talking about Kamala, please go ahead and play the clip and let's react to it. Go ahead, Rob.
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Vincent Oshana
Anybody could dismiss Donald Trump at this particular moment in time, not just because of him, but because of what we've seen the Democrats do. We're not falling for it any longer. The American people aren't falling for it any longer. I voted Democrat and I got to tell you something right now.
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Adam Sosnick
I don't like the fact that I did.
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Vincent Oshana
I don't like what I'm saying. I don't want to hear about, oh, we're about law. We're about a law.
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Adam Sosnick
Nobody's above the law.
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Vincent Oshana
Nobody's above the law. But then you go out and you pardon your son and you try to blame everybody else for it. I don't want to hear about, defund the police. I don't want to hear about, you know what, there should be open borders. I don't want to hear this stuff. And I don't think most of the American people want to hear that. And I'm no longer interested in, nor do I believe any of us should be interested in, in listening to a bunch of fear mongering to tell us who we shouldn't vote for. Why don't you come up with a plan that tells us why we should.
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Adam Sosnick
Vote for you winning. I'll go to you.
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Vincent Oshana
I mean, listen, I respect Stephen a. A lot. I love what he does. I think he's one of the most, like, he's, he's the, he's the guy that you want to listen to when it comes to sports. And he's actually very intelligent. I think this shift, I think this shift is every single one of these people that voted because they were all, they didn't, they weren't just BSing. They knew that they're going to be voting for. Even though she was, they knew she was full of crap. I think this shift is what we're seeing with Chang. I think it's, it's what we're seeing with Chris Cuomo. Everybody now is changing their tune. Everybody. You know why? Because the market is telling them to. Okay, he's still a Democrat. True and true. He's still he.
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Adam Sosnick
You.
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Vincent Oshana
Here's my question. You don't think he knew everything that she was saying was BS A thousand percent. That's the him hating Trump at attitude that made him vote. Remember, it wasn't a vote for Kamala. It was a vote for. It ain't Trump. And now every single one of them, just like Stephen A. Are changing their tune because they have to. That train, the Democrat Kamala, I love change that train. They got to jump off of a pat or else their careers are going to be affected. And I think who, who's, who's he under pd Who's ESPN under ABC and Disney? And who's in charge?
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Adam Sosnick
Bob Iger.
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Vincent Oshana
Those people. Those people are going, hey, listen, you know what? The world, the market is saying it's cool to be like Trump. It's cool to dance and that. Let's get on the Trump train. And they're all doing it, every single one of them.
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Adam Sosnick
Adam, what do you think?
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Tom Ellsworth
Look, Stephen A. Smith, who we've had, we spent a lot of time with. I'll never forget the dinner that we had a couple months ago. Yourself, me, Tom, Chris Cuomo and Stephen A. Smith. And the conversation was amazing. Sports, politics, relationships, dating, election, everything. Stephen A. Smith is one of the most consequential, monumental, eloquent, articulate wordsmiths of our generation. He's simply more than sports. He's everything. He's politics. And he's dipping his toe into the water, but he's not swimming all the way into the deep end right now. Listen, if you're part of Disney and you're part of that ecosystem of espn, we saw what happened with Sage Steele. If you're the face of the NBA, especially when it comes to broadcasting, you have to walk a fine line. But much like me, who went through this metamorphosis and this sort of evolution of politics, he's going through this. We know how his mother raised him. She would be a true conservative these days. So one thing he said about a week ago, he says, I'm done with the Democrats saying that they, that they have the moral high ground. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Nobody has the moral high ground. You're going to tell me that you have the moral, moral high ground and you've been wrong on this, this, this, this and this? I don't think so. Last point. You said this in the chat. Barack Obama. Come on, bruh, has anybody had a worse year than Barack Obama? So we're going to see what happens with that. By the way, Stephen A. Smith. You know how many people he can get on the phone like this? Hey, Michael Jordan, what's going on? Hey, LeBron James. What's going on? He called out LeBron James the other day, Kendrick Birkin tried to call LeBron James the goat. He said, no, no, no, no, no.
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Vincent Oshana
No, no, no, no, no.
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Tom Ellsworth
Not when Stephen A. Smith is here, Baby, Michael Jordan's the goat. So I appreciate what Stephen A. Smith does. I appreciate his voice and give him tone.
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Adam Sosnick
Tom, thoughts?
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Patrick Bet-David
I. I think Stephen A. You know, is seeing facts and he's speaking to facts. He sees the facts and he's going down the list of facts. They did this. They did this. So things have been exposed at the election, immediately thereafter. Stephen A. Is seeing that and he's speaking to it. I respect that. Now, how much did he know? Did he have a hunch beforehand? Any reasonable person would have had to have a more than a hunch about a lot of things going on. But I respect that. Stephen A. Has gone on and what you're seeing is, I think he's upset because there's a degree of embarrassment. They were all asked to use their megaphone, every one of them. And some of them, like Oprah, were paid to use their megaphone. They cash checks and now they come out and they're embarrassed. So it wasn't just like, I paid you to endorse me. Now you're being embarrassed later. And I know there's a story we're going to cover later about a labor union where it's just shocking. And now they're like, again. And I could see Stephen A. Going down his list. He's just like, again, another one, another one, another one. And finally he says, I've had enough. I regret this. So, you know, I don't know if he had a hunch, but I think he was. He's definitely embarrassed. And at least he's going down the list with facts the way Stephen A.
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Tom Ellsworth
Does.
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Patrick Bet-David
He goes, fact. This guy said this. This guy said this.
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Adam Sosnick
Vinnie, what are you thinking?
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Vincent Oshana
But, Tom. Okay, that's all. You don't believe that Stephen A. This entire time, Tom, he's not dumb. He's educated. He's articulate. He knew this whole time. He's not stupid. This shift isn't because he's finally had an epiphany. These people were all either paid, Tom, just like you said, or they actually believed it. And again, Todd, this is just the hate for Trump. And they were willing to vote for somebody that has radical ideas, has done nothing in the political World. You know what I mean? Pat? I think it's all deep.
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Patrick Bet-David
I want to make the revolution. I was talking about Oprah being paid. I was not talking about Stephen A. I did not say Stephen A. Was paid. I said, sure, Stephen.
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Adam Sosnick
Got paid. And that's inappropriate stuff to say. Tom, please don't do that. I know you were saying something.
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Tom Ellsworth
I'm gonna ask you a question here because I remember. I think, correct me if I'm wrong, Cuomo. I'm sorry. Stephen A. Smith says, listen, I go on Hannity, that's my guy. Cuomo is my guy. By the way, he went on Fox News Mark Levin to make this comment. He didn't say I voted Cal. He said I voted Democrat. Right? And I regret my vote. You know, he's in the middle of contract negotiations right now.
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Adam Sosnick
Pe.
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Tom Ellsworth
What are your thoughts? Where his.
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Adam Sosnick
Where his head right now? Here's. Here's what I'm thinking about. It's. It's one of two things, okay? And I'm going to give you which one I think it is. It's one, the contract negotiation isn't going as planned. And he has said effort. I'm out. This is how you guys want to treat me? I'm out. I can go make my own money and get my own attention and get my own eyeballs. I think his channel either crossed a million or is about to. This guy's going to get eyeballs. People are going to listen to what Stephen A. Has to say. That's one. Okay. Where the negotiation is not going right and he's not happy. Let me tell you what number two is. Number two is capitalism will force you to go back to common sense. I think capitalism has kicked Bob Iger's ass in ways no one else physically has in his entire life. Let me explain to you why you write a book that everybody reads, right, Of a lifetime. You replace yourself with Bob Shapek. You leave. First co CEO, then he's going to take over. Then you leave. Then it screws up. You want to run for president, then you have to come back to save Disney, to save ABC. Valuation goes from $400 billion to $200 billion under your reign. Nobody likes what you're doing. You keep producing shitty movies after shitty movies after shitty movies. Yesterday I went to the theater to watch Sonic 3. And while we're going out there, the. The commercial for that one movie with that one girl talking about, I don't know what that Disney movie was, where the girl was being woke. What was that one movie with Snow White? Yeah, Snow White is over here. And I just like that. I'm like, you destroyed, you destroyed a movie that I will not take my kids to go watch. Then Wicked going to me. And anyways, these are separate topics here, but I think, I think if Bob Iger is the man that I think he is, you cannot take a business and go from being a low level employee to being a CEO of a $400 billion company by pure luck. And Bob did go on a ride of a lifetime. Bob didn't negotiate with greats with Steve Jobs. Bob did go out by biggest franchises like Star Wars. Bob did go out there and do a bunch of stuff that others couldn't do when Steve Jobs didn't want to have anything to do with Disney. Bob is the one that brought Steve Jobs to the table when there were so many people didn't want to do anything. This guy's probably one of the best, you know, sit down guys we've had in the last 30 years. So there's so many good that he's done. But I hope capitalism, every once in a while you're going to get your ass handed to you. No matter how good you're all of us in business, you're going to have some public losses. I think, I hope capitalism gets them to realize. I like that Stephen A. Is talking the way that he is. I like that Stephen A. Is challenging people. I like that he's getting eyeballs. The other day Stephen A posted a clip that got 10 million plus views and it was shared all over the place on X. What about if we leverage this? What about if I pay attention to this? Maybe this is what the American people want. Maybe this is what people are interested in. You know what, what if we bring him in and then we use him to go on the View, to go on everything else, to be a regular. What if we have him to have a multi talented guy that's doing both ESPN and other shows on abc? And what if his contract becomes bigger than abc, bigger than espn? It becomes an ABC type of a contract that widens his reach, that widens the amount of money that he can make. I am hoping it's the second. I'm hoping the rumors about the kind of money Stephen A. Is about to get is factual. He gets it. And I'm hoping, I'm being hopeful. We went to Disney World three days ago and now walking around, just look.
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Tom Ellsworth
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Adam Sosnick
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Vincent Oshana
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Tom Ellsworth
Vinnie, can you hear me? Dom, can you hear me?
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Vincent Oshana
Looks like Pat just jumped off.
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Tom Ellsworth
While Pat comes back.
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Adam Sosnick
Let me.
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Tom Ellsworth
I see the. The screen is loading. Yeah, I think Pat's absolutely ready. He touched on Bob Chapek. I remember when we had to read the book Ride of a Lifetime about Bob Iger. How the mighty have fallen. But Stephen A. Smith, there's a. There's a part of what Pat is saying about Bob Iger that is correct. But back to Stephen A. Smith. We know this, and this is my opinion. YouTube money ain't ESPN Disney money. As far as the contract goes, Tom, you would know the numbers. You know, I think Pat McAfee signed a contract with ESPN. What was that, Tom?
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Patrick Bet-David
I think you're A.B.
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Adam Sosnick
Right.
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Tom Ellsworth
Matt McAfee signed a contract, I think 120 million bucks. Stephen A. Smith is sort of in that range. Pat, you're back. Pbd, you're back.
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Adam Sosnick
You guys see me or no? So that was good.
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Tom Ellsworth
Yes.
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Adam Sosnick
Okay, so you guys stayed on, but I got cut off.
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Tom Ellsworth
Yeah, we were continuing the conversation. Okay, now, pvd, now that you're back. Yeah, I was basically saying that YouTube's great and all, free market's great and all, but YouTube money ain't Disney money, ain't ESPN money. Pat McAfee signed a contract. 120 million over five years. Whatever it was, I don't know the exact details. Stephen A. Smith. In my opinion, necessary voice. Back to Stephen A. Smith. You know the market will pay you what you're worth. In your opinion, pbd. What's more important to Stephen A. The money or the voice and the freedom? Because you know, on ESPN you can't say everything you want to say, right?
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Adam Sosnick
Yeah, but, but, but there comes a time in your life when you are not the number one with the network. Not number one within a region, not number one within. You are Number one. There's only one Stephen A. No one's ahead of Stephen A. There's only one Stephen A. Okay. Who has the depth that he has His. His. If I was representing him, I get to make the asks. That doesn't mean that I have to say yes, but I get to make the asks. And by the way, Stephen A. Is not old. He's probably in the best shape he's been in 20 years. He looks incredible preparing to form the next 10 year run. So leverage is on him. Anyways, let's go to the next story here. There you go with Stephen A. Next one. Rob, do you have the clip of Newsom in California? Whichever one you have, if we can go with the $27 billion, $24 billion being confronted to say, hey, what happened to that $24 billion when he's being asked if you have that clip. So this is the governor of California, the great state of California, which he's destroyed the last four years under his reign. He's being asked what happened for this $24 billion that you asked US taxpayers to fix homelessness. What happened to that money? Here's the exchange. Go ahead, Rob. Nation doing enough to determine whether the.
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Patrick Bet-David
Money that's being plowed into homelessness is being well spent. One of the vaccine issues that was.
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Tom Ellsworth
Highlighted in the audit was local.
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Adam Sosnick
And each city and county has different strategies and approaches. We try to level set that.
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Patrick Bet-David
I'm sorry, Governor, I didn't hear responses to either of those questions. Do you acknowledge whether the money that the, that the state isn't doing enough to ensure that the money is being well spent?
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Tom Ellsworth
The audit did not surprise me. The state has advanced unprecedented investments.
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Adam Sosnick
You're correct.
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Tom Ellsworth
And unprecedented interventions demanding more accountability with.
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Adam Sosnick
State money at the local level. Yeah. What does that mean, buddy? Tom, what do. What are your thoughts on Newsom and how he's been held accountable with the money and still doesn't give any answers?
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Patrick Bet-David
Well, guess what? The questions that are being asked publicly of Gavin Newsom are the ones that are being asked privately by people that are leaking out all over the place about Kamala Harris. What you saw in the Kamala Harris campaign, you take a big stack of money, you give it to bureaucrats and politicians, and they spend it on micro programs and stuff. And there's a, there's consultants in their skin all over that. We saw it in that, in the Harris campaign. Take the billion in the Harris campaign that disappeared, multiply it by 20 over a couple years. That's what's happened in California. There Are consultants in that that was lost. There are individual cities that each did things their own way, which was wasteful. You know, the whole point of a state government is to say we're going to this way in every city and you get some efficiencies like that if you run a business like that. Pat, you ran an incredibly successful great nationwide insurance, you know, with one playbook for sales. You had everybody marching together doing it. That's not, that's not how it works. You could have a Republican city in Orange county, they get money. You could have a Democrat city in Santa Barbara, they get money and then they do it themselves and then they pay their own consultants and it's wasting its grab and it's a lack of leadership. And that's what he doesn't want to own up to. Oh, the audit didn't surprise me. You're in charge, dude. You're the governor. You're the one that could put down these guardrails when there are wildfires in California path the way it works, the governor declares national disaster area and you have full coordinated efforts. Why? Because there's nothing to hide behind the flames. Don't wait. You have to coordinate, you have to show leadership and you have to get the fire out. But when you're doing this thing on homeless. Well, we'll do this. We'll do this, we'll do this. Newsom has presided over something that is 20 times more loss than the Kamala Harris campaign. And what's the difference? Not much.
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Adam Sosnick
Vinnie.
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Vincent Oshana
Well, pal, as you know, I was in California recently for, for work, for, for a manecting. And just see, first of all, it doesn't surprise me at all. And I don't know if it was just my computer, but what. And I'm. This is coming from somebody that's always red and tan. Did he look overly red? And like, I thought he was like in a satanic costume. Halloween something. I don't know. His face was. He was playing the part very well. But I was just in la, Pat, and I mean the homeless situation, just driving around, I. I was like, oh my God. And mind you, I've been here for. In Florida for three years. It. It's gotten insane and it's like, at what point are the people going to stay? Enough is enough. And stop putting these type of people in power because at the end of the day, Pat, I'm gonna. I don't feel bad for you if you keep voting for these people because hey, I'm a Democrat and I just, you know, I have to Go Democrat. It's on you guys as well. Because people, we keep hearing the thing, Tom, just taxpayer money. Taxpayer money. No, say what it is. It's your money. California, it's your money. And where's it going? Nothing is getting done. The streets are horrible. Homelessness is out of control. Crime is up. But they keep pretending. It's like, as long as you're not, you know, just keep voting for us. They keep giving all these promises and nothing happens. And it doesn't surprise me when it comes to Gavin Newsom, the snake in the grass that he is.
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Patrick Bet-David
It's not their money, Vinnie. It's our money. It's the people of the United States and the future debt of the United States. Because California received federal money on top of that for the homeless problem. Because on one hand, they open the door, they talk sanctuary city, sanctuary state, but then they asked the federal government to help pay for it. It's the same thing that was happening in New York. And Eric Adams finally called it out and said, look, I don't want anymore. We have to put it to a stop. That was after he was given out ATM cards paid for by the American people, not the New York people.
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Adam Sosnick
You know, while. While you're talking, Vinnie, I went on. Rob, I'm going to send this to you if you can pull this up. I went on California Homeless auditor. It's auditor california.gov, if you can pull up that. That link and go to. Because what I want to know is this money that you ask from us, that we paid for, have you been able to slow down homelessness in the state of California because you were able to do it for G when he came to San Francisco and clean street. So if you could do that, could you have cleaned it up? Rob, if you can just pull up this chart while I'm speaking to show it to the audience. And if you go to that page and go to the middle of it, you'll see figure one that says California's population of people experiencing homelessness has increased since 2013. Now, when did Newsom become the governor of the state of California? What year? So, Governor Newsom, when did you become. Oh, keep going lower. Keep going lower. Keep going lower. Where it says figure one. Keep going lower. You'll see it right now. It's coming up. Keep going, keep going. Keep right there.
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Vincent Oshana
Boom.
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Adam Sosnick
In a little bit, if it's good. Look at that. California's population level, homelessness from 2013. From 2013 to 2015, it went down. So he's been a governor since when I, I don't even know. Okay, so check this out.
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Vincent Oshana
18.
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Adam Sosnick
So 18. Right. So prior to that it went down from 2013 to 2015. So whoever was the governor was able to decrease it 3,000 people during that two year period. Then it goes up in 17 and in 18 he comes in and it goes up from 131,000 to 181,000. Even after getting the money. By the way, when did they get that money for? When did they get the money from homeless? California? Homelessness, 24 billion. When was it given? When did they get that money, Tom, do you remember what year it was? Okay. California has spent about $24 billion on homelessness since 2019. Audit finds California spent $24 billion on homelessness in five years and didn't consistently track outcomes. This is a CBS story that I pulled up from April 9th. Rob, if you can pull this up. So they got the money from taxpayers. So imagine like it's kind of like this. You're starting a business, we raise money, you give us $24 billion. And every month if you, the taxpayers gave us $24 billion. What report do you want from us on a monthly basis? If you gave the $24 billion for homelessness, what question will you, the investors and us say? What report do you want on a monthly basis? What's the most basic number you want to hear from us?
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Vincent Oshana
Homelessness going on or homelessness going down?
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Adam Sosnick
All you care about. And you mean to tell me in this article CBS says at the top that the article says what it says even though they got the money, nobody was tracking the outcome. $24 billion. And then what does it say? California spent 24 but didn't consistently track whether the huge outlay of public money actually improved the situation. According to the state audit released Thursday. With law making shift tensile streets down the throat, California homeless has become one of the most frustrating intraceable issues in the country's most populous State and estimate 171,000 people are homeless in California, which amounts to roughly 30% of all homeless people in the U.S. 30% of all homeless people in THE U.S. are in THE state of California under his watch. Despite this, roughly billions of dollars spent on more than 30 homeless and housing programs during his tenure 2018, which he came into 2023. California. California doesn't have reliable data needed to fully understand why the problem didn't improve in many cities, according to the state auditor's report. This report includes concludes that the state must do more to assess the cost effectiveness of its homelessness Problem. The audit analyzed five programs that received a combined $13.7 billion in funding. It determined that only two of them are likely cost effective, including one that converts hotels and motel rooms into housing and another that provides. This is ridiculous, by the way. 30% of all homeless in the state of California. California population is what, 30? What million? What's California?
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Tom Ellsworth
I just actually went right there with this. California population is about 40. Sorry, 39 million.
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Adam Sosnick
40 million. It's 11%. Yet 30%.
- [34:29]
Tom Ellsworth
Almost 10%.
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Adam Sosnick
So 3X, that's an F. What you give Newsom is a big F. By the way, the reason why this matters is because 2028, 2027, he is running for president.
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Vincent Oshana
100%.
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Adam Sosnick
And he has two years to clean up this resume before that happens. Now, while we're doing this, let's also give California some credit for making an adjustment on a crime. Rob, here's the state of California. And Adam, I'm going to come to you right after this. Here's the state of California. In the state of California, what happens it. They have a story of two girls that are shoplifting. Thinking it's not a big deal. Rob, I don't know what page it's on, but I think you have the video. They're shoplifting. While they're shoplifting, they find out. Wait a minute. Why are we getting a felony? Why are we getting a felony? Oh, you're getting a felony because California changed laws. What do you mean they changed laws? Rob, can you put this clip on what happens in California that now it's a felony if you steal something over a thousand dollars. If you got the clip, please go in and play it.
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Patrick Bet-David
Felony, bitch.
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Adam Sosnick
New laws. Stealing is a felon.
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Vincent Oshana
This is their comedy skit.
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Patrick Bet-David
And this is Orange County. They don't vote. That's why Iceland county is this.
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Adam Sosnick
That's where I went to jail last.
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Patrick Bet-David
Year and had to.
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Adam Sosnick
And got on probation for a year for still out of Target Music. We got to be aware of that. So, Rob, can you tell us what happened there with the California story? Maybe give us a. A quick synopsis what's going on there so the audience knows. Yeah. The.
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Vincent Oshana
Other.
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Patrick Bet-David
Those two women were filmed walking through several different Target stores, Walmarts, I believe it was three or four different stores in which they stole close to a thousand dollars worth of merchandise. That is after they got arrested for stealing from the last store. They're in the cop car and the cops tell them, hey, this is now.
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Tom Ellsworth
A felony due to the passage of a law. I have to find the Law.
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Adam Sosnick
And look right now, okay, so there's another clip I saw that a guy who gets caught shoplifting. While he's getting caught shoplifting, he comes back to court. He kept going through it because he's doing it. Then when he comes back to court, he realized the laws have changed and it's now a felon. He's like, wait a minute. The previous six times, I didn't get a felony. Now I'm getting a felony. What happened over here, Adam, your thoughts on this?
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Tom Ellsworth
Yeah, there's so much to unpack here. Right here. I remember Dave Chappelle did a skit one time, and it was a guy basically walking to the street, and a guy pops out. He's like, oh, don't do that now. That'll get you five to 10. And essentially it's like, oh, so you're a lawyer now? These two women in the back of the cop car. This is how change happens. When two women are in the back of a cop car being like, I told you, Orange county don't play. I told you that we shouldn't steal. I told you that this is not a good idea. What are the chances that they knew the law, that anything below $1,000, you cannot be arrested. What are the chances? I would say very high. No, pbd, you say this all the time. If California and Texas had a baby, it'd be Florida. The one thing that comes to mind as out of touch, shout out to hollow notes, Gavin Newsom, tanned, bronzed, just probably on vacation, talking about, oh, my God, we lost. How much? How much we lose on homelessness? 1 to 1 billion, 5, $24 billion. And the number hasn't gone down. The one thing that comes to mind is the debate between Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis. When Ron DeSantis busted out a fricking poop map to basically highlight the shit show that is California. Sorry for my cursing. Whether it's the homelessness, the cost of living, the regulation, the crime. I remember ppd. You did a case example. Disney. Disneyland in California versus Disney World in Florida.
- [38:49]
Patrick Bet-David
Wow.
- [38:49]
Adam Sosnick
Wow.
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Tom Ellsworth
We wow.
- [38:50]
Adam Sosnick
Wow.
- [38:50]
Tom Ellsworth
What an absolute stark example of the ridiculousness that is going on in California and the effectiveness of that is going on in Florida.
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Adam Sosnick
Let me show you this. Check this out. I just sent this to Rob. Rob, could you zoom in a little bit, please, so I can read this to them? All right, so California store prices items go a little bit above California items at 951. So shoplifters will be arrested or doing so can be charged with grand theft. So look what it says if you look at it closely. Warning, all items in the store. All items in the store are marked at 951. Non criminal discount applied at checkout for all paying customers only. The state of California will prosecute all shoplifters under the California penal code of 487pc. Did you understand what just happened here?
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Santa Claus
Yeah.
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Adam Sosnick
They priced everything at $951. Except when you come to the counter getting ready to pay, they give a discount to non criminal discount. That is. So think about what the hell is going on in California that this is how creative you have to get. So everybody goes to kill. Rob, if you can now play the other clip that was posted by Mario Nefal, not the one that we played with the music in it. This one here will tell you a little bit more about the story of those two young girls who are making a mistake. Go ahead and play the clip. Rob, did you get the clip? I think I texted it to you. This is an ad from BetterHelp. This holiday season, do something for a special person in your life. You give yourself the gift of better mental health. BetterHelp online therapy connects you with a qualified therapist via phone, video, or live chat. It's convenient and affordable and can be done from the comfort of your own home. Having someone to talk to is truly a gift, especially during the holidays. Visit betterhelp.com to learn more and save 10% off your first month. That's BetterHelp. H-E-L-P.com Rob, while you're getting it, Vinnie, those dinosaurs that escaped out of those eggshells behind you.
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Vincent Oshana
I'm pretty. Like, I. I didn't want to say anything because I'm pretty sure because I'm not reading chat at all. I never read the chat, but I'm actually. They don't hear me right now, but they have hatched. All these are, you know, baby dinosaur eggs that have hatched and they're actually right, They're. They're in this room watching. But as he's searching for it, I think this is it. There you go.
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Adam Sosnick
And play the clip. Oh, I got it, Rod. This also has the music. Yeah. Are they playing this one of these days?
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Tom Ellsworth
These boots up, you know, 648.
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Patrick Bet-David
Brazen and casual. They just walk right out.
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Adam Sosnick
And then this is what they're coming back to. The Same girl stealing more 237.
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Santa Claus
Oh.
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Adam Sosnick
And they're getting this whole thing on camera. And they're just walking out.
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Patrick Bet-David
And they went from ultra makeup to Target. And they have the orange bags that they took from Ultra Makeup.
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Adam Sosnick
Oh. So it's. It's tracking their entire journey. Rob, Let it keep playing, Rob. Unless if it's. Stop. Okay, there you go. So then more cameras catching what they're doing. Rob, is there. Is there sound or no? Is that music still playing? Wow. So now they're realizing it's a felony.
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Patrick Bet-David
Got it on the law, if you want. I have the background on the law. Prop 36 went before the voters and the voters. California, 68.4% passed Prop 36. And here's what happened. The 950 is an important number because now they also said 950 could be aggregate. It used to be that if an item was under a ousand, now it's 950 is an aggregate. So when those girls stole all that stuff from Target and from Ultra, the cumulative total was over 950. And now you're arrested for a felony.
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Vincent Oshana
And the.
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Patrick Bet-David
And the larger girl that was on the right hand side in the back of the police car, she knew it was speaking to the somewhat shorter, smaller girl saying, hey, man, it's. It's a felony. Now voters, check this out. 10.3 million Californians voted yes on Prop 36. Make it a felony. Make it aggregate. 4.7 million. Highly concentrated in. Hang on. San Francisco, Oakland, Alameda and Los Angeles counties. Those are people that vote. No, no, no, we don't want this law. I don't want this law. But the people have spoken. Path. This went before the people. They voted Prop 36 and it got passed. And now the teeth of the bill. There it is. Yep, there you go. So it's not just drug. It was cumulative shoplifting.
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Adam Sosnick
I freaking love that. I love that. By the way, leave it to business owners to come up with a creative way to protect their business from losses. Of course they're gonna put every item in the store is worth $951. I'm supposed to pay a bunch of people's salaries. I can't stay in business if people keep stealing from me. And the government doesn't protect me. And you take the sides of the people that are stealing from me. That doesn't make any sense for business. Why would anybody want to start a business in the state of California if you're going to protect thieves over the business owner that creates jobs, how does that make any sense? Vinny, final thoughts, and then we'll go to the next story.
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Vincent Oshana
Yeah, and I could have a short clip PBD that I want Rob to queue up of how entitled these thieves are.
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Adam Sosnick
Okay.
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Vincent Oshana
It's a couple of girls at CVS leaving. The guy locks the door and she threatens to call the police on him for not letting her steal. Rob, whenever you have a playbook, I'm dead. Play this clip. Play this clip of them getting caught.
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Adam Sosnick
Go ahead.
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Vincent Oshana
There's no music. Play this. Put the volume up. Watch this. Open the door. Look at how punished is. Watch. Put that down. This is security.
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Adam Sosnick
Glad I put over there.
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Vincent Oshana
Touch me.
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Adam Sosnick
Oh, my kids.
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Vincent Oshana
Call them.
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Adam Sosnick
Call them.
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Vincent Oshana
Look, she's want to call the police.
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Patrick Bet-David
You can't touch me, though.
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Vincent Oshana
Look. Okay. And that's okay.
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Adam Sosnick
So.
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Vincent Oshana
And that here's what it is. What? Like, am I the only one that's losing my mind? That we have to make crime like something illegal, actually illegal again. I don't get it. You're stealing.
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Adam Sosnick
It's.
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Vincent Oshana
Which is a crime. You should go to jail. There has to be a monetary limit to what you're still. It's like the border when we have illegal immigration and these illegals. And we're going to get to them are coming in.
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Adam Sosnick
You know what it is? Vinny, while you're. While you're saying this, like, here's. Here's my question to anybody that's watching that the behavior you just witnessed right now with those young girls, to anybody that's a parent, if your younger daughter did that to you, what happens to your blood if your younger daughter takes your makeup out of your bag? You know the relationship between a mom and a daughter when a daughter always takes a makeup out. And what happens to mom, don't touch my makeup. How do you feel when your daughter touches your makeup and she takes your makeup out of your bag? I'm curious. Now, listen. If your son takes your makeup out of your bag, it's a different feeling. But if your daughter takes your makeup out of your bag, it's a different feeling. But how do you feel about it? How do you feel about it? They entitled. Mom. Leave me alone. Mom. You can't do anything. I'm just putting a little bit of makeup on. What's wrong with you? How do you think these guys feel when somebody's robbing and a guy can't even call the cops on them? They're going to call the cops on them. This is why. This is why Stephen A. Smith sounded the way she did. This is why Elon Musk was a former Democrat, left the party. This is why Joe Rogan was a former Democrat, left the party. This is why Tulsi Gabbard left the party. This is why Bobby Kennedy endorsed Trump. This is why Joe Manchin. A story just came out, Rob. I don't know what page it's on. A story comes out with Joe Manchin saying the fact that I have it somewhere in here. Joe Manchin, right, says warns Democratic Party is so is toxic as he steps down from the US Senate. Wait, what? Joe Manchin says what? Joe Manchin says the Democratic Party is so toxic that he is stepping down. Why? Because bad policies have consequences. This is a story from the Guardian. Stepan, after 15 years as a U.S. senate, criticized the Democratic Party as toxic and accused progressiveness of dictating how Americans should live. He argued the party had shifted from focusing on issues like good job, good pay to sensitive social issues, including LGBTQ rights on Kamala Harris's right and laws to Donald Trump. He said if you try to be somebody you're not, it's hard. And added every red blooded American should want your president to succeed. Manchin called for a centrist third party, saying the centrist moderate vote decides who's going to be the president of the United States. And when they get here, they don't govern that way. If the senator had a voice and had a party, that would be something. He criticized both Democrats and Republicans as two extreme, stating Democrats want to ban guns while Republicans say let anybody have anything they want. That's Joe Manchin for you. So that's another person you lost. This guy was a guy that was a reasonable guy. This guy was a guy that had good ideas. Now you lost him as well. Bad policies. They're experiencing a massive exodus, Tom.
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Patrick Bet-David
And by the way, consequences. You said the word consequences. What we don't see is regular citizens are suffering consequences too. In San Francisco on In January of 2022, there were 21 CVSS. We just saw the video. That was a CVS pharmacy just getting blatantly ripped off. January 2024, they were down to 12 CVSS in San Francisco and I believe right now they are down to nine. There are nine CVS's in the city of San Francisco and most of those are in the more wealthy areas such as the Marina district. And so the consequence is also on the people. So when the government thinks that they're winning votes from these people, they're really screwing other people, like older people and folks who are living in areas that need a CVS there so they can get services. And Joe Manchin is right. The, the rebel policies, the rebel policies that he's talking about, he says isn't The Democrat party, you recognize how you're, you're not helping the people when you're there. It is CBS makes another SF stork when you, when you run amok, the consequences are everybody loses. It's not just Manchin, it's what we just saw. Regular people in AL or have less convenience getting to a CVS to go get the basic things that they need. Pat.
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Vincent Oshana
I know, I know. We want to get off the topic. Pat, but Casual has a question. What, what, what made California make that decision? What was it post George Floyd riots, everything. Defund the police. What was this? The, was this a tactic to get the black vote or. I, I don't know. I don't know. What was the shift to be like, hey, if anybody's stealing, if anybody's doing this, if you're riding in the street, if you're burning down business, it's okay. These are peaceful protests. What was that shift, Tom? When, when did that happen? Because I have a feeling that it was during that.
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Patrick Bet-David
You're asking a great question. It's the word decriminalization. They talk about decriminalize marijuana, decriminalize possession, you know, of a certain amount of marijuana, keep the penalties for distribution. There's a slippery slope. When you start decriminalizing then they say, well, we're all clogged up with all these $500 shoplifting things. And businesses have insurance. Remember these are liberal far left Democrats talking. So maybe we should decriminalize shoplifting. We'll make it under $1,000. That's what they did. That's what happened. The number of break ins, you can go Google it and say break ins in for auto theft, break ins, people stealing backpacks. If that backpack had a basic laptop that was worth less than thousand bucks, they were selling it at pawn shops for $200. Making $200 on that. But it was a non criminalized offense because what they stole was worth less than a thousand. So guess what crime went up actually and the number of shoplifting cases went down. So what happened to society? Society lost. So were the courts less crowded with $500 shoplifting? Yes. But guess what happened? You enabled more crime. There it is, vehicle theft reports. And it's also vehicle break ins. Rob. It was vehicle break ins in San Francisco that people would leave their cars on lock with a note on the door that said nothing in the truck, nothing in the seats. You would actually leave your car as clean as a rental car, if you know what I mean, and not lock it so that they Wouldn't break the window and you wouldn't have to have your window replaced. But you left nothing in there that they could take. Not even quarters sitting in the ashtray. Nothing. So that's what happened. It's the word decriminalization, which in the mind of the liberal far left Democrat is these people are stealing to survive and they accept it. They accept it as a redistribution of wealth. That's how the Democrats think. That's declimalism.
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Vincent Oshana
One quick point.
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Tom Ellsworth
No one touched on PVD.
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Adam Sosnick
I have one quick one. Adam, you got 20 seconds.
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Tom Ellsworth
Well look, Joe Manchin, you know, I've been talking and singing his praises for over five years now. Centrist, moderate, someone with common sense. You know the common phrase.
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Adam Sosnick
Adam, what's your point?
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Tom Ellsworth
I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party left me. But let me say the most important thing that we probably said in this entire conversation and I'm going to say it. What's the common theme that's going on in California? It's not just Californians. It's not just women. It is specifically black women. And I love my black brothers and sisters out there. But let me say this.
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Adam Sosnick
Pbd.
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Tom Ellsworth
How many times have we discussed the biggest problem in America which is the lack of a father in a home. Who's leading the league with, with single mothers. What is African Americans. Okay. In America 25% of all homes are born to unwed mothers. I think we're leading the league in single parents. The stats are showing that the world 7%. The world with, with single parents 25% in America. So then you have a situation where the, that the stat show whites 30% I believe are born out of wedlock. The national, the national average is 40% Latinos, my Hispanic friends 53%. My black and African American friends 72%. If we want to improve what's going on here in America, we need to bring the father back into the home. Okay? It is 10 times more likely to be incarcerated. 20 times more likely to have violence. Whether it's dropping out of school, whether it's teen pregnancy, what is it's lack of basic common sense. Black people, Latinos, even the white people out there bring the father back to the home.
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Adam Sosnick
I thought for a second you were going to make a point about BBWs. I'm like what?
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Tom Ellsworth
I fully thought big girls need love too brother.
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Adam Sosnick
Because I thought that was like your. But anyways, okay, let's go to the next on this before many times and I fully agree. And you know we got work to do. It's the hero making machine who we turn into heroes. The issue. But let's go to this here Panama Canal, okay? Out of nowhere, you hear the President talk about we got to take Panama Canal back. What? This lazy negotiation that was done in 1977, I believe, with Jimmy Carter. Lazy negotiation? And most people don't even know the history of Panama Canal. Rob, if you have the clip of the President talking about Panama Canal, I'd love to get into it. And by the way, for some of you that are not following this thing closely, let me start off by reading a part of it and then we'll get right into it. Trump is teasing US expansion into Panama, Greenland and Canada. His ideas calling ownership of Greenland an absolute necessity for purposes of national security and freedom throughout the world. Greenland Prime Minister Mute Egate firmly responded, greenland is ours. We are not for sale and we will never be for sale. While Danish Prime Minister Mati Fredriksen reaffirmed earlier comments that the proposal was absurd, Trump also teasing annexing Canada on social media. And then, last but not least, he suggested retaking control of the Panama Canal, calling it a vital national asset and urging Panama to lower fees on American ships. He warned to the officials of Panama, please be guided accordingly. Panama's president, Jose Raul Molino, rejected the idea, stating every square meter of the Panama Canal and its adjacent area belongs to Panama and will continue to, and described Trump's comments as a manifestation of gross ignorance of history. Rob, play the clip.
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Patrick Bet-David
Has anyone ever heard of the Panama Canal?
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Tom Ellsworth
Huh? Because we're being ripped off at the.
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Adam Sosnick
Panama Canal like we're being ripped off everywhere else.
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Patrick Bet-David
The fees being charged by Panama are ridiculous, highly unfair, especially knowing the extraordinary generosity that has been bestowed to Panama. If the principles, both moral and legal, of this magnanimous gesture of giving are not followed, then we will demand that the Panama Canal be returned to the United States of America in full, quickly and without question. Not going to stand for it.
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Adam Sosnick
Okay, while you're going through this, guys, while he's saying this, I did a video on Panama Canal. Rob, if you go YouTube, type in panama Canal. But David, breaking down the whole thing. But here's five things you need to know about Panama Canal. The threats. Trump's threats to retake Panama Canal. This is from the Hill. Number one, the Torijos Carter treaty. Trump criticized the 77 treaty signed by President Carter that transferred the canal to Panama, calling it a deal where Carter foolishly gave it away for $1. And Panamanian President Jose Raul Molino countered the sovereignty and independence of our country are not negotiable, adding that the canal rates are fair and based on market conditions. That's 1, 2, 3, flare up with an ally. Trump's threats to retake Panama Canal strained ties with Panama. A U.S. ally, Molino declared, Every square meter. We read that three, Panama's management of the canal. Trump called the canal's turnover a magnanimous gesture. Implied undue Chinese influence. The canal has no control, direct or indirect, from China. Molino says for an eye for unwinding deals and treaties. And then last but not least, five, part of a broader territorial fixation of him talking about this. By the way, I have a whole thing I want to get into with this, but, Tom, I'll go to you first.
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Patrick Bet-David
So Jimmy Carter was trying to make the United States look less like an imperial power. What does imperial mean? Well, it's like the US in Puerto Rico. It's like the. The French in Algiers and Morocco, where the large established countries had established beachheads and influence over foreign countries. And Carter was trying. Was on this human rights campaign, which largely failed. Good heart, in the right position. But he didn't get it done. He didn't want us to look so imperial. And he thought, wow, one of the ways we can do this is give Panama the canal back. But we have to remember what happened in the name of Western trade. The United States built that canal, the U.S. built it. And 75 was Vietnam, a terrible war. And I believe the number was 55 to 57,000 men died in Vietnam. 75% of that number died building the Panama Canal. Malaria, disease, things we didn't have, really our arms around preparing these workers for down there in these tropical regions. And disease went around and it was terrible. So it was, I think, was south of 40,000, but more than 35,000 people died there. So we're looking at it. We built this to facilitate trade. One of the things that Carter did was Panama asked him history, and no one wants to talk about this in mainstream media. They said, who's going to help defend it? Because we were all worried about this, about communism and militariz, militarized communism in Central America at the time. We were worried about it. Reagan would come in and get after it in Central America on the communists. We were worried about communists closing the canal to international trade. So we said, hey, part of giving it back to you for a dollar. We did the Neutrality Act. The canal will be neutral, but who will be the cops and who will pay for the cops? Estados Unidos. We paid for the Cop, we said.
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Tom Ellsworth
Love your Spanish, Tom, love your Spanish.
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Patrick Bet-David
We will pay for the cop, we will be the cops. We will do military, we'll do security, we will not allow insurgencies, we will defend the canal. So we took on the full expense of it when Panama in the 90s couldn't afford certain maintenance on these things. They're called locks. Where the ships go in, they raise the water and they close these things called locks. Guess who paid for that? We appropriated. So we have been maintaining, we built it, we've been doing maintenance, we've been protecting it with our military guys against this. And so now what Trump is saying, the mainstream media doesn't want to talk about because it's bad Orange man all over again. He's saying we're going to take it back and we're going to protect it from China or anybody else that wants to influence and potentially close it or influence it. And by the way, it's 40 years behind in certain repairs. 40 frickin years. So it also needs, needs work. So it keeps and stays open. So, you know, everybody wants to say, oh, Trump's doing this and that. No, he's actually trying to protect the business interests of many people. All the Caribbean nations that are doing business of import, export, they get it through their food, all kinds of stuff go there. So everybody wants to jump on Trump for this, but the truth is much deeper.
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Adam Sosnick
Let me tell you this. I, this has actually become my top five things he's working on.
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Tom Ellsworth
Stop it.
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Adam Sosnick
Long term. Let me tell you why. Let me tell you why. Let me tell you why. And I'm going to break it down for you so you understand what, what is going on here. And I think it's brilliant. So if you, if you think about in the 1600s, they said it'd be great. Rob, if you can show the map, just show the world map of US and South Central America. If you can show that and we can look at Panama, for people to realize the magnitude of this and why this has to do with China. It is so important. It is so important. I've been to Panama and I've watched the canal because when you go there, I stayed at the Hard Rock, which is an hour away from the canal. If you zoom in, zoom in, go. Actually go to Panama map. Type in Panama map at the top. Just Panama country map. Yeah, zoom in, zoom in right there. If you can go there, you can have. Okay, so check this out. Panama Canal right there, Zoom in. That's the canal that they built. Okay. If you don't if you can zoom out on the map, if you can't go through there. Okay. Now if you can go to the Central America map, go to Central America map. Watch this here. Go on the one on the second one. Yeah, that's. You know what? If you can go. Go back a little bit, Rob. Go back a little bit. Actually, just go to the world map. Just go to the world map. If you can have that. Because it's so important to understand the power of this. The one on the left. Yeah. And click on it again. The map gets zoomed in even more. Yeah. So if you look at that, if you don't write the. Rob, you had it. Just go to that one, the pink one. Yeah. If you can't go through the Panama Canal, you have to go like. Imagine if you're coming from New York, go to New York. On the map, Rob, top right, pink. If you're coming from New York and there is no Panama Canal, you have to go all the way around the green to get to la. Look at that. All the way around the green. And by the way, just to kind of give you guys some numbers on what that means, with the canal, it's only 4,970 miles from New York to LA. Without the canal, it's almost 13,000 miles. Okay. With the canal, it's 12 to 14 days. Without the canal, it's 30 to 35 days. Okay. And then when you look at dollar amount with it, it's only $262,000 of fuel. Without it, it's $705,000 of fuel.
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Vincent Oshana
Right.
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Adam Sosnick
We can take the map out at this point. So then if you go from China to New York, China to come over here, because they're going the other way. So think China has to go the other way. From California, come all the way down to go to New York. Exactly. China to New York. With the canal, 12,000 miles. Without the canal, 19,000 miles. So without the canal takes 45 days. Sometimes with the canal, it takes roughly 25 to 30 days. So you mean to tell me this idea of Panama Canal was started in the 1600s? A French company started building this in the 1880s. They ran out of money and they kind of paused it. Then in 1904. Do you know who was president in 1904? One of the greatest presidents we've ever had. His name is Teddy Roosevelt, who is president, comes in the Panama Canal. Do you know how many people died building the Panama Canal? 27,000 people. Because to build a Panama Canal, you literally. To build bombs, they Build. They blew things up and people were dying. They were dying from starvation, they were dying from sickness, they were dying from malaria, they were dying from yellow fever. They're dying. 27,609 people died building the Panama Canal. U.S. builds it in how long? 10 years. And who becomes president? 1913, the face of the Progressive Party, which is who? Woodrow Wilson becomes a president, it gets done because of Teddy Roosevelt. In 10 years, who benefits from it? The world. Then who goes? Who is known as a very noble, nice, kind man, good husband, good father. Father. But a shitty negotiator. And a president, a guy named Jimmy Carter goes and gives it up for what? We didn't have to give that up. And by the way, do you know why I doubled down on Trump picking up the Panama Canal? You know why I doubled down on it? It is the only way we can prevent China from having a chokehold on us long term. It is the only way, by the way, too. Right now they need funding to finish up the construction because there's a lot of challenges right now with the Panama Canal that people are not even talking about. Where ships are getting stuck, the speed, all these things that are going through. They made, I think, $5.2 billion of funding. Guess who can help you with that? The US Camp. I hope and pray and encourage for them to double down on this. I think this is an old school move of when Andrew Carnegie did not respect John D. Rockefeller and John D. Rockefeller said, I'm sorry, what does Carnegie do? Carnegie Steel. You know what we're going to do, don't you? Need to move that steel? Yeah, don't worry, I have the railroads. Go ahead and move your steel. Go ahead, move your steel. You're going to need my railroads. I hope and pray that the US Left, right and center politically get behind this idea because this benefits Americans long term. No matter if you're a Republican, Democrat or an Independent, everybody should get behind the idea of Panama Canal that Trump is negotiating on. Vinny, I'll go to you next thoughts.
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Vincent Oshana
You know, I mean, Pat, to be honest with you, I didn't know that I wasn't like first in the canal. But just from what you're saying, any rational person, left, right, center, it doesn't matter. That just makes sense. Okay? We have to get back to doing business and Trump is obviously the freaking guy to do it. And speaking of Trump, Pat, if you don't mind, I want to read. I don't know if people read Donald Trump's Christmas tweet, but I'll Read it talks about the canal in the beginning and then Canada and then goes a little bit to the left. He goes merry Christmas to all, including the wonderful soldiers of China who are lovingly but illegally operating the Panama Canal where we lost almost 30,000 people in its building 110 years ago. Always making certain that the United States puts in billions of dollars to repair money but have absolutely nothing to say about anything. Also Governor Justin Trudeau of Canada, whose citizens taxes are far too high. But if Canada was to become our 51st state, their taxes would be cut by more than 60%, their businesses would be immediately double in size, and there would be a military protected like no other country anywhere in the world. Likewise the people of Greenland, which is needed by the United States for national security purposes, who want the US to be there, and we will. And then he, he goes on to saying Merry Christmas to the radical left and all that stuff. But I think he's, he's, he's making a pitch, Pat. And he, and he, and he's, I think the Canada thing is hilarious. But I'm all for the, the Panama Canal situation. I think it's a great idea.
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Adam Sosnick
We're going to jump in and say something. Tom.
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Patrick Bet-David
Yeah, you know what? During COVID remember we heard that, that the Somalis and the Houthis were operating right there in a little area. And Adam's nodding. He knows exactly where I'm going here with, I'll pronounce it wrong. Djibouti.
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Vincent Oshana
Djibouti.
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Patrick Bet-David
We make jokes about how it's pronounced, but that is the pinch point where container ships go up there to go through the other canal that enables low cost transport. The Suez Canal. The Panama and the Suez Canal are the two most critical. Critical kind of. See the pinch point right there? That's where the Houthi rebels and the enabled and the Somali enabled rebels were there. And if you expand that, go right up there, go up north of that a little bit, you are going to find the Suez Canal. See, it widens up there. But you see that pinch point. They patrol down there and they create problems down there. And by the way, that's led to huge inflation. Because if you zoom out, these are called the Cape routes. What Pat was talking about is the Cape route around Cape Horn, which is Terra del Fuego, south of Chile. And there's also the other Cape route known as Cape of Good Hope, which is in South Africa. So the shipping containers have to go there. These two canals are critical. We didn't even know we were really talking about the same political dynamic for the Panama Canal. We were talking about the Suez Canal when at the end of COVID we had all the rebels there and the container ships couldn't get through. And people were saying that it was inflationary to the people of Europe just trying to get basic goods because they had to have that extra shipping cost line on them. So the canals, in modern world, these two canals, are critical also to inflation because it keeps shipping costs down for people. So everybody wants to talk about Trump being imperialist. Guess what? He's also trying to keep shipping costs and keep that part of inflation for the consumer.
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Adam Sosnick
Yeah, yeah. The moment he said Djibouti, I got offended. I, I logged off. But. But I'm back. I really like what you just said right there, Tom. When you start talking about. Yeah, I like it. Adam, last thoughts before we move on.
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Patrick Bet-David
Wait, wait. Who did they turn to to help them knock down the Somali pirates?
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Adam Sosnick
I have as a. I'm not interested in a Djibouti turning around. I'm not, I'm not turning into anybody, Tom. I'm Mary. I'm not interested in Djibouti. But Adam, please, I'm trying to stay.
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Patrick Bet-David
Civil war is up to be the top and we were helping the world in the Suez stay open.
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Vincent Oshana
Tom, he's trying to get to Adam and Djibouti. You and your, you and Djibouti's.
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Patrick Bet-David
Tom.
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Tom Ellsworth
You know, I know you say don't repeat things that have already said, but I'm gonna have to double down on that Djibouti straight up. Because what we learned during COVID is the supply chain is a massive, massive deal. And I'm glad that you kind of gave some context to why what Trump is talking about is so important because to me, this sounded like almost like, what is this? Is this a ramblings of a crazy person or is he crazy like a fox? Because you said this is one of your top five issues. And I'm processing what you said. Ppd, because. Because if you go according to polling in the United States citizens, they're thinking border, immigration, cost of living, inflation, crime, abortion, health care, wars. I didn't have the Panama Canal on my bingo card. This was not something that Trump campaigned about.
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Adam Sosnick
But.
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Tom Ellsworth
Aha, aha. If it comes down to the supply chain and fair trade and free trade and China and Djibouti, it's starting to make a lot more sense now.
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Adam Sosnick
So.
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Tom Ellsworth
Pbd, Let me ask you a question. These three things that he's talking about, we're going to make Canada the 51st state. Oh, my God. It's going to make Canada great again. All right, Greenland. Where the hell did this come from? We talked about it. I believe in 2019 you tried to buy Greenland. They said they're not for sale. And this Panama Canal thing, which you've touched on before, if you can lay out likely, somewhat likely, least likely. Of those three things, where would you put it? Panama Canal, buying Greenland and having Canada be the 51st state, what would you say? PBD.
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Adam Sosnick
Exactly in the order you put it.
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Tom Ellsworth
Yeah, I thought so.
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Adam Sosnick
Panama, Greenland, Canada. And by the way, I think the rest of the world outside of BRICS should support US owning Panama Canal. Tell us it's going to benefit. Look, if right now, whose ideas and method of running the world do you trust?
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Tom Ellsworth
China.
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Vincent Oshana
Oh, my goodness.
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Adam Sosnick
Or us. Obviously, both of them criticized. But at least we, when we argue, we argue publicly. Everybody knows our drama. Nobody knows China's drama. We're not in China. YouTube's not in China. Facebook's not in China. There's no free press in China. We don't know what the hell they're doing in China. Everybody knows our drama. Imagine a. Remember the Truman show with the one Gary. Yeah, the Truman Show. Guess what that show is about showing someone's personal life. US is the Truman Show. Everybody sees our drama. So who would you rather have control? Panama Canal? US Right now, imagine if Panama Canal. Do you not think Trump behind closed doors is thinking that China is planning on funding Panama Canal to take control? By the way, US If China ends up taking control of Panama, you're screwed. Let me say this again to you. If China takes control of Panama Canal, you are screwed. Are you watching? Everybody in US is screwed if China takes control of Panama Canal. This is not even a joke because imagine so now play the card of tariffs. Hey, China, if you do this, we're going to put tariffs on you. Oh, go ahead. If you do that, I'm shutting down any exports from Panama to us for the next 30 days. Go ahead and put the tariffs on the U.S. you lose your tariff card. The only way your tariff card has power is if US Owns Panama. I think we need to find a way to get this thing done. I talked about this a little over a year and a half ago. I absolutely love this idea. But let's get to the next story here. Let's get to the next story here. So New York subway women burned to death by a Sebastian Zapata. Rob, if we have that, I don't know if I even Want to play the clip? I don't want to play clip, but what we could do, Rob, is I'm going to go to the story, I'm going to read it. If he can show a picture of it, Rob, that'd be great. If we even have just a picture to show what happened there. So. Sebastian Zabata, a 33 year old migrant from Guatemala, was charged with first and second degree murder and first degree arson for allegedly setting a woman on fire abroad a stationary F train at the Coney Island Stillwell Avenue subway station in Brooklyn. Surveillance footage showed Zapata calmly approaching the woman who may have been sleeping, setting her on fire. With New York City Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch describing the act as one of the most depraved crimes one person could possibly commit against another human being. Zapata, previously deported by U.S. immigration and Customs Enforcement ICE on June 7, 2018 under Trump after illegally crossing into Arizona, re entered the US on an unknown day, according to ICE spokesperson. According to ICE spokesperson Marie Ferguson, after his arrest by the New York nypd, ICE plans to issue an immigration detection retainer at the location where he is being held. This happens, Rob, after Governor Hochul, if you have that clip, Rob, where she's walking around the. What do you call it, the subway, saying you have nothing about Vinny, I'm about to come to you, Rob, if you can play that clip with Governor Hochul and everybody, I'm coming to you, Rob, if you got the clip, go ahead and play the cl. Oh, you don't have the clip because she's actually walking around.
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Vincent Oshana
I did say. I think I sent it to you too, Robbie. There's a clip of her. If not. Hold on. Yeah, Rob, you can just go to actual. You can find it right there. Just put your back. Okay, all right. But while he's looking for it, you're gonna see in the video that she's walking with security on guards like it's all, it's all a show because at 3:40 she says it. Think about the timing. At 3:40 she goes. Subways are getting much safer. And at 5:36 this woman is burned alive by this freaking illegal freaking demon, okay? And the sad reality, Pat, I'm going to get into it, is that people were there, okay? And someone might have stopped this girl from getting lit on fire while she was sleeping, probably from working her ass off all day. But nobody wants to help, Pat. Nobody wants to help because they're going to be scared that they're going to be arrested. And, and just in case well, if they kill this guy back and if they, if they shot him or whatever, they're going to be labeled a racist and they're going to be dragged all over, all over media and be seen as, as, as like racist and, and horrible. But besides this, Pat, I think this guy deserves the death penalty because if not this illegal who doesn't belong in the country is going to get paid tax dollars, our tax dollars to keep him alive for the rest of his life. And again, and I know I'm going to sound like a broken record, Pat, but at this point I don't care because you know who I am and you know who my enemy is. Alejandro Mayorkas, okay? This dude Trump kicked this guy out. He's back in the country because of Alejandro Mayorkas. He's up in a freaking hotel with our money, okay? Our tax dollars. All right? He should be prosecuted. Alejandro Mayorkas because the damage he's caused we haven't seen the full extent by the way besides the illegals, all those terrorists, all the thousands of terrorists that are here pbd, they're just waiting for the green light. They're waiting for the okay to do it. And on, on Sunday, this little rat Mayorkas admitted that his deputies could have blocked more migrants at the southern border. But he didn't. Okay, this is ridiculous. Okay, enough is enough. Especially when it comes to New York. Is it just me, Pat? Oh, on the day of that week that this happened, there were five separate stabbing incidents on the train in New York City. But everybody acts like it and her going down there is a spit in the face. And I think the, the Tom Holman the borders are even mentioned something about her being unbelievably ridiculous what she did, the shame, shame on her.
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Adam Sosnick
Rob, if you got the clip if you can play it because I think the timing of it the audience to see this with the clip click on it. Persian music plates.
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Vincent Oshana
I don't want them.
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Adam Sosnick
Not quite last minute. I have holiday shopping to do.
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Vincent Oshana
Got an adorable 2 year old.
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Adam Sosnick
Something.
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Vincent Oshana
Where you need to go which is.
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Adam Sosnick
Why we've added somebody for national guard.
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Patrick Bet-David
Over 250 that make sure that your ride to safe.
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Adam Sosnick
Okay, so you know what's funny while this is happening so Tom, go ahead you and I'll give.
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Patrick Bet-David
I got two things to say. If you've got the National Guard helping you do anything that means you have failed as a governor because it means your state and local law enforcement are insufficient or improperly trained or constrained because you won't let them do certain things so you get the National Guard when the problem is bigger than you can handle. That's what she's got on the subway. So the mere fact she's got National Guard, but I'm going to go to somewhere else. Says Kathy Hochul beat Lee Zeldin in the closest gubernatorial election in. In 20 years, going back to 94, she won 53 to 47 over Lee Zeldin. If you take a look at the way the precincts lined up, if the governorship had been up right now in November when Trump was elected, when you see the compression that happened there, it is 5347. When you see the compression that happened in the Trump election of how close it was for Trump, he lost New York, but it was far closer. Zeldin would have beat Hul four weeks ago, would have beat her. So now what I'm looking @ is New Yorkers 20, 26 is coming. You need conservative leadership in the governor's mansion, number one. And number two, this situation, this is her Willie Horton moment. Michael Dukakis had a furlough program and Willie Horton got out in Massachusetts in 87, 88 and killed again. And he was absolutely pilloried, as you should have been at the polls. Kathy Hochul, this is your really Horton moment. You have released people out that were deported. You have been. You have castrated your own police force and not let them do things that need to be done. And you've got the national guard at US taxpayer expense bailing out New York, New York citizens. 26 is coming. The midterms are coming. If they had elected a governor right now, Pat Zeldin would have beat Hochul right now. It's coming. Change is coming. New York.
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Adam Sosnick
Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. For some of us that were watching that video, who've seen the video, people are standing around. Was anybody doing anything? No. Anybody jumping? So let's ask the question that nobody ask. Why didn't anybody jump in? What's the risk? If I jump, Penny?
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Vincent Oshana
Yeah.
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Adam Sosnick
Every question becomes, if I jump in, I'm going to be criticized, my life's going to be over. I'm going to be Daniel Pennied. Do I want to go through that? But the reality of it is based on how and who you recognize as a hero and a demon. The media sold Daniel Penny as a bad, evil person. So guess what? People are afraid to be Daniel Pennies. By the way, if there was a Daniel Penny there, that we turned him into a hero for protecting someone's lives, and other people's lives. Somebody would have jumped in there right now because they want to be the next Daniel Penny. But no, because you don't want to turn the hero making machine. Mainstream media gets a part of the blame for that woman no longer being here with us. Mainstream media gets a part of the blame for that woman, whoever she is. I don't know her background, but she's someone's daughter, she's someone's sister, possibly. And she's someone's spouse, possibly. She's someone's friend, she's someone's cousin. But because you crucify, you know, in media terms, Daniel Penny, everybody's like, oh, I'm not going to there. I'm not going to. What are you going to do to the guy? I'm not going to do nothing to the guy. I'm not going to jump in. I'm not going to jump in there. You are preventing the next heroes from rising up and you're giving birth to more jokers from the movie Joker, Joaquin Phoenix, because that's your hero, New York. That's your hero. Your hero. Is that not Daniel Penny? And so somebody is looking at that. You know what parents are saying, honey, honey, don't do anything, son. Don't do anything. Don't do anything. No, no, no, no. Don't jump in there. Big, no, no, no. Don't do anything to the guy. Don't do anything. You know what they're going to do? Don't do it. Come here instead of, hey, what are you talking about? It's a shame. It's an absolute shame to see how you handle yourself. Where we forget who the true heroes are. Adam, final thoughts before we go to the next story.
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Tom Ellsworth
Yeah, you know, I'm in here in New York as we speak. I was on the subway two days ago coming in and out of the city. And this is something that people are talking about specifically on the subway and in the subway in New York City. It has a famous phrase that we've all heard before, but a lot of people are scared to do. If you see something, say something. But beyond that, beyond saying something, do something. Here's this absolute lunatic who was already deported, right? Guatemalan immigrant, thrown out, allegedly. Allegedly he was living in a shelter on drugs, drinking, and he would actually lose his mind. People are saying, goes up to a woman, apparently, allegedly she was homeless, sleeping on the subway card, and nobody did anything. And they're calling it, like you said, pbd, the Daniel Penny effect. The Marine veteran who stepped up as a hero you talked about the hero making machine who saved how, how many people's lives? Who knew? How many people's lives did he do? So they're trying to track down family members for this woman that lost her life. You're talking about the hero making machine. Here he is right here. Are we playing this video?
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Vincent Oshana
No, you're not. No, this is just him before. I think this is after the, after the fact that he already told her.
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Tom Ellsworth
So you talk about the hero making machine. Pbd. Daniel Penny, by the way, completely innocent after his day in court. But a lot of people saw what he went through, dragged into court, criticized, taken months, if not years of his life away to basically be set free. Meanwhile, juxtapose that with the same thing going on New York City with this guy who's the darling of the left. What's his name? Luigi Mangione, Point blank. I'm not even saying allegedly.
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Patrick Bet-David
I think it's pretty clear.
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Tom Ellsworth
Kill the United CEO Brian Thompson. But this, this comes back to me to one thing. Everything that happened with the girl called Lake and Riley. Okay, here's a red blooded American. She was a nursing student at uga. Her head was freaking bashed in with a rock by a Venezuelan illegal migrant who, quote, unquote, went hunting for women. We saw, we, we read the letter on the Peabody podcast. The letter to her future husband. Are you kidding me? So there's a rally across many Americans with common sense that are saying, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The, the wide open border. No, no, no, we're done with this. These sanctuary cities, enough with this. So we're going to see what happens here in New York. I know that we're calling out Kathy Hochul, but Eric Adams, what's going on? I don't know what's happening with him. Apparently he's working on a deal with Trump. From what I'm hearing, that there might be some pardon in store if Trump can help get some of these illegal migrants out of the sanctuary city. But New York is not the same city that it used to be. I'm here right now and you can feel it in the air and it's depressing.
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Vincent Oshana
I don't want to move on. I want accountability. Listen, I know we keep talking about this accountability. This guy is illegally here, should not be here. And this isn't a one off. How many times does this have to happen to where we have to go? Because, mind you, the border as we speak is still open. They haven't changed anything. Trump is in for another month. So the borders are. Comes in, but it's just. It's still happening, and they're still coming in, and there has to be consequences. And Pat, you called this about a month ago. That guy deserves the death penalty. End of story. If he's convicted. Because, I mean, we all know he did it. He's on camera. He did it. He has to lose his life. Okay? Because. Or not. They're going to keep doing it. They're going to keep doing it, because you know what? They're going to be put in jail, and we're going to pay for it for the rest of his freaking life. We're paying to keep that guy breathing while this poor girl burned to death. And one of the worst ways that you could freaking die burning alive. And he's making videos of himself and posting it. That's unbelievable, bro. Unbelievable. January 20th. Can't come any faster. It can't.
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Adam Sosnick
There's no. There's no question there. And, Tom, were you going to say something? So I want to go to the next story.
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Patrick Bet-David
I was just saying, getting back to your original point, this is Marxism. AOC point blank said she blamed weeks ago. Daniel Penny was to blame for the subways being unsafe. Marxists want revolution. So someone that it goes out and kills and does this is a tool in their war. It's the war they see from their side.
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Adam Sosnick
Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead.
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Patrick Bet-David
AOC gets cornered two days ago, and her security deal detail whisked her away. She did not answer the question. You said Daniel Penny makes the subways more unsafe. What about this woman that just burned? No one jumped in. She didn't answer the question. She was whisked away by her security. So she's been confronted twice that I have seen by independent journalists that are trying to get a comment from her on the burning. She won't talk about it. After weeks ago, she point blank said Daniel Penny is making things more unsafe.
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Adam Sosnick
Is this it? Right?
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Vincent Oshana
Or this?
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Adam Sosnick
Cortez, you're.
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Vincent Oshana
Yeah. So your district is suffering under the.
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Adam Sosnick
Pressure of the border crisis.
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Vincent Oshana
I'm sorry. Trying to get to the tour, man. Don't touch.
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Adam Sosnick
Mainly you.
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Vincent Oshana
What?
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Adam Sosnick
Your. Your district is very much suffering through the border crisis. Why will you not.
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Vincent Oshana
Not a care in the world, Pat. Not a freaking care in the freaking world.
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Adam Sosnick
Let's go to the next topic. It's the next topic. Next topic I want to go to is Don Lemon is interviewing somebody on the streets, okay? And they're going back and forth about how much mainstream media this guy consumes, and he says nothing this African American, astute, great communicator, having a very respectful exchange with Don Lemon. And here, what ends up happening? I think this is phenomenal. More and more Americans are starting to sound like this. Rob, if you can play this clip, that'd be great.
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Patrick Bet-David
Who is the real president elect? Do you think Donald Trump won?
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Vincent Oshana
I believe Democratic lawmakers in Washington are.
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Adam Sosnick
Calling Elon Musk President Musk now, and.
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Vincent Oshana
They'Re saying Donald Trump is the vice.
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Adam Sosnick
President, President, or the head of communications. What's.
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Patrick Bet-David
What's.
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Adam Sosnick
What's. What's.
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Patrick Bet-David
Wait a second.
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Adam Sosnick
No.
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Vincent Oshana
No one said that.
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Adam Sosnick
Really? Have you not watched and paid attention?
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Vincent Oshana
Absolutely not. I'm paying attention to what I'm doing.
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Adam Sosnick
During my day so I can try.
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Vincent Oshana
And get a better life and get ahead. Okay.
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Adam Sosnick
Do you have your phone with you? I do. Why don't you Google right now? Yes. Tell me, President Musk, and see what comes up.
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Vincent Oshana
No, but that's already a loaded question, you realize.
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Adam Sosnick
Tell me. Give me the sources. Axios, Business Insider.
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Patrick Bet-David
We don't trust any of these.
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Adam Sosnick
The common man doesn't trust any of this.
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Vincent Oshana
ABC News, Washington Post, New York Times, the Atlantic. I don't trust any of these. I don't trust any of them.
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Adam Sosnick
I don't trust any of these.
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Patrick Bet-David
We're the common man.
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Vincent Oshana
We don't trust any of these.
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Patrick Bet-David
No one trusts the government.
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Adam Sosnick
No one trusts the common news.
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Vincent Oshana
We don't trust any of that anymore.
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Tom Ellsworth
Independent news.
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Vincent Oshana
We are the ones that own the news now.
- [93:33]
Adam Sosnick
People trust me.
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Vincent Oshana
They don't trust MSNBC because I care, and I'm actually one of them.
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Adam Sosnick
Can't disagree with you. Okay?
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Vincent Oshana
I get a lot of people coming to me saying, I only watch.
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Adam Sosnick
I don't watch corporate media anyway, Vinnie, I think.
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Vincent Oshana
Dude, for a second, I thought Don Lemon just got pissed off because he was trying to holler at the guy, but it's like, can. Can it. Can you fall from grace more than Don Lemon? The guy is freezing his balls off in the cold, asking questions in the street. I think it, like, it doesn't get worse than that from one of the main faces of cnn. Now you're groveling in the street, and you're still getting your ass handed to you. It's like, at what point is somebody like that, Like, Don Lemon needs to hear this. Dude, just give it up. Just stop what you're doing. You're rich, you're married. Grab your husband, go skip into the freaking sunset because it's over. And the fact that he's in the street. I do Respect that. You said that. He's actually posting it to showing his ignorance. But it's over. Mainstream media is over, but these little people are just hanging on and grassing on because Don Lemon still wants to be on television. He wants it, still wants to be relevant. But Don, it's over. And I'm sorry if you're trying to holler at the guy.
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Adam Sosnick
He didn't want you.
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Vincent Oshana
I think it's pretty obvious.
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Patrick Bet-David
I think the star of that clip wasn't Don Lemon. The star of that clip is a citizen that says, I'm just trying to do my.
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Adam Sosnick
To.
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Patrick Bet-David
To live my life and get a little bit better. I don't trust any of this. And that is a message they don't want to hear. The star is that guy just speaking up and pushing back and getting a little loud, saying, no, no, no, no, no, you don't understand. We don't trust any of that. I'm just out here trying to do my stuff, trying to make my life better. That's the star, that's the American citizen that they don't want to hear from.
- [95:18]
Adam Sosnick
Adam.
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Tom Ellsworth
Well, credit goes to the guy that started this whole conversation, pvd, when you basically called it a few months ago, where the media would come out there and basically say, it's President Elon Musk. Trump is not the one running the country. Elon's the puppet master. And here's a living, breathing example of Don Lamont getting out there on the streets, freezing his Tokasov, going out there and parroting the same things that we've been talking about that the media has been talking about. What was so interesting to me is that every time Don Lemon read the media outlet, Axios, oh, Washington Post, oh, cnn, oh, as if that was like the zinger. And then the guy is like, yeah, I don't trust any of those mother suckers. We trust independent, we trust citizen journalism, we trust podcasters. And oh, oh, here's some data for you. The trust in media is at an all time, oh, low 31%. But if broken down by significant party, Democrats trust the media 54%. High level of trust. Independents 27%. Republicans only 12%. This is coming from the 1970s when trust in media was 70%. Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
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Adam Sosnick
Yeah, you know, you know what it is? I love the fact that don't posted this that the rest of the world gets to see and react to, which means he doesn't have a thin skin to at least have people laugh at him and disagree with him. Good for him at Least at this point, I don't know what he's going to be doing next. But the concept of citizen journalism is increasing in ways we've not seen before. This started 10 years ago, 14 years ago, when it was like Vice and you know, what was the when, when people were going into the streets of New York to go against Wall Street. I'm a millionaire and I'm this. And what's, what's your problem with it? Right. And that one time that he got millions of views. I like what's going on. I like the direction it's going right now. And I actually think one of the biggest victories Trump's camp can have is to increase trust in an administration. I'd love to see that happen. And I'd love to see some of these assets that people are calling toxic. CNN toxic, MSNBC toxic. We'll have somebody else purchase them that are not toxic and help revamp that brand. Right? Have somebody else do it. I mean, when you look at it right now, the list, the story comes out, Toyota donating a million dollars to Trump's inauguration. What? Bezos, Sam Altman, Zuckerberg. Ford is giving a million dollars fleet of vehicles to Trump's inauguration. Contributing to that inauguration. Are you kidding me? Like what direction we're going? My hopes are that we trust more. But in order for us to trust more, the establishment people that have been brainwashed to think they're above everybody else because of a piece of paper they got from Colombia have to indirectly be exposed. Not eliminated, just be exposed. And that's going to keep happening by average day to day people. Adam, final thoughts. We're going to the next story.
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Tom Ellsworth
You know who the big winner is here? The average everyday person. And specifically what Pat always talks about, free market capitalism. What's the common theme that we're seeing here? Oh, people don't trust the media.
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Patrick Bet-David
Boom.
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Tom Ellsworth
They trust podcasts now. Oh, there's so much crime going on in California. Boom. Everything is now worth 951 bucks. All right, all right, cool. Now you're in the back of cop car. Two women are discussing, hey, you didn't understand that stealing is a felon now. Okay, we got to do this. Stephen A. Smith basically saying, oh, I don't know about this. Democratic Party. Small businesses making effects. Gavin newsome. Where did $26 billion go, buddy? Free market capitalism. And the market will tell you if you're doing right or wrong. And all the losers are getting washed out.
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Adam Sosnick
I got two stories to get through before we wrap up with the time that we have is. This story is disturbing parents. I'm telling you in advance. It's about two husbands that adopt sons that abuse the son. So if you don't want your kids to hear this, dismiss them for a second and now let's go through the story together. I do think we need to talk about the story. Husbands who abused adopted sons in house of terrors slapped with massive prison sentence William and Zachary Zuluk, a Georgia couple were sentenced to 100 years in prison without parole after pleading guilty to multiple charges of sexual abuse after their two adopted sons, including aggravated sodomy, incest and sexual exploitation of children. The crimes came to light when the national center for Missing and Exploited Children tipped authorities about homemade child sexual abuse material CSAM linked to the Zoolock's IP address. Investigators found surveillance footage and electronic evidence including graphic images and messages documenting the abuse. District Attorney Randy McKinley described the Zoolock's home as a house of terror stating the depth of of defendants depravity which is a deep. Which is as deep as it gets is not greater than the result of those who fought for justice and the strength of the victims in this case. By the way, Rob, this is not even the full story of it. If you go to New York Post with the story to read what else is in this story. These guys were selling these boys to others. These, these, these two guys were. Were selling the boys for other men to abuse their adopted sons. Think about this story. So the question becomes is yeah, this the one. If you can go a little bit lower Rob to keep going. Keep going a little bit lower. Keep going a little bit lower. Lower, lower. 343600 years. Keep going. Those are the two of them defendants. Keep going Lord. The two brothers were 12 and 10 years old. The couple raised them under good skies. But the fruit of his government employee had a dark secret. Okay. Zachary worked in banking and William was a government employee had a the couple regularly forcing the boys to have sex with them and with pornography. Keep going.
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Vincent Oshana
Lower. Yeah, love, love.
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Adam Sosnick
Look at the shirts, Rob. Evidence showed that even they even begged abuse about the abuse to twisted friends with one telling police Zachary once sent a Snapchat message reading I'm going to f my son tonight standby along with images of the boys being abused. And they allegedly use social media to pimp the boys at least to two men and depraved local pedophile sex rings. The couple were arrested in 2022. Both of them pleaded guilty child molestation. Anyway, so you can stop this one here. So here's my question for you, Rob, if you can run a poll, okay, what should happen to these guys? 100 years or death penalty? Because just yesterday I watched a mother with two daughters talking about one of those 37 people that had a death penalty that Biden changed to life sentences, okay? And some of them raped children who were on death row. And he flipped it. And the parents and the daughter are like, we never got a call from the president on how we felt about this. You just flipped it on us. And we were feeling like we're going to get our. You know, obviously nothing comes close because that person's not in your life right now. They're no longer with you. Imagine these two boys being adopted, 10 and 12 years old. What should happen to these two guys? There's a lot of questions here, by the way. There's some will even speculate to say, can a gay couple be able to adopt kids? Some people go as far as that. If you just go 80 years ago, 40 years ago, 60 years ago, when they did a survey by Gallup on what percentage were comfortable with this, it is a very, very, very small percentage compared to what it is today. But to me, what should happen to these guys worst case scenario? What kind of example should happen to these two men? Do you know what happens if you put them in jail and others find out what they did to these two boys? Do you know what they're going to do to these two men? Do you know what they're going to do to them? But the reality of it is, is that 100 year life sentence, enough for the next gay couple to not want to be tempted to do something like this to boys that they adopt. What is the right decision to be made here? Tom, what do you think?
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Patrick Bet-David
I think there are cases where you look at it and you wonder if the reform is even possible. I mean, remember, we call them prisons now, but once upon a time they were deemed to be correctional facilities where you would go to debtors prison. You had to work your way out of debt, you know, basically doing all this work and everything to get out. We're past that. Federal prisons now. I looked this up. You can check me on this, Rob. Federal prisons right now run about $120 a day or $44,000 a year. So you, you say to yourself, okay, hang on. If someone is not redeemable and you don't think that they can come back and they're what, four, 40 years old and they lived to 80 years in a prison, you got 40 years times 44,000. So the US taxpayers are going to have a. There it is. 120. Yeah, 116. 120. Right on it. So basically, if these guys lived at 80, it's going to toss the taxpayer $1.8 million each. By Mike Quick. So $3.6 million. So the first question is, are they even redeemable? The second question is, society is now going to pay almost $4 million to keep them in prison. And then the next question is, do you run into something where you say, you know what? You know, this is. You've crossed the line here. It's time to use capital punishment in other ways than an eye for an eye. And I think you look at it and say, you know what? You know, if you were to ask some of these prisoners that are lifers, do you want to stay in the prison system or would you like to opt out?
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Tom Ellsworth
What do you mean?
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Patrick Bet-David
Would you like to tap out? You get cancer in certain countries, you can get an assisted suicide. Would you like to tap out? Otherwise, you're going to be here for 40 years, and you're going to get incredible abuse. Because prisoners are not kind to child molesters. They are not. You look, in the US Prison system, that seems to be the one. One area that all the prisoners are united on. And you know what?
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Vincent Oshana
The.
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Patrick Bet-David
The. The child molesters are. Have horrible things happen to them. I'm talking about beatings, punishments, a lot of things. So these guys may not make it past 60. Someone may shove them in prison. Shiv is a prison term for creating a knife out of something and killing someone. And so I think, you know, you look at it, you say, guys, you know what? You can opt out. It's going to cost us $4 million to take care of you, or you're going to be. We're going to close one eye and let these prisoners take justice on you. Come on, dude. I mean, but do you go all the way to capital punishment? I'd love to put it to a vote of the people. The same way the Californian people voted on that. Put it to a vote of the people.
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Adam Sosnick
What do you think, Tom? What do you think? I'm asking you, what do you think?
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Patrick Bet-David
I don't. I don't think they're redeemable. And I. I see a path to lethal injection here. Personally, I do.
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Adam Sosnick
Okay, Vinnie, your thoughts?
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Vincent Oshana
Well, first, I want to just state the obvious. That the lgbtq, AI plus whatever community, they've been having a freaking pretty bad run for this past four years, especially under an administration that hangs that Freaking disgusting. Flag by the white. By the American flag in front of the White House. I mean, the majority of the last mass shooters, especially schools, have been in the LGBTQ community. The sexualization of the youth drag queen story hour, kids stripping at gay clubs, which we've seen it, that's in the LGBTQ community. I think it's. I think it's disgusting that children are the most neglected group in this country. We have hundreds of thousands of them coming into the country. Nobody knows where the hell they are. You know what I mean? You have them getting sexualized left and right. Nobody gives a damn. And this couple, Pat. This couple. And you were asking because a lot of people are like, man, they need rehabilitation. They need. There is zero rehabilitation for a freaking pedophile that. You know me, I'm almost sober a year and almost seven months, okay? I was an alcoholic, all right? But you know what? It's not past tense. You're always an alcoholic, okay? You don't get cured. You still know that that thing is there, that alcohol is there. You mean to tell me that disgusting, evil thing that's inside them as a pedophile, that's going to go away? It doesn't go away. They're always going to be those people, and they're always going to freaking want it. So something needs to be done with that. And I said this before in the past path about Tom, is it at Matthew, chapter 16, verse 8. This is the Bible. This is God. When it comes to hurting the youth, it's better for you to tie a millstone around your neck and throw yourself into the depths of the ocean. You might as well kill yourself, which is an unredeemable sin, than mess with these freaking kids. Patrick, I think there's no curing them. And like you said, they go to prison, they might be protected, they might get killed, but I think there's nothing helping these people. And I think we need to take care of them, plain and simple and set an example, Adam.
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Tom Ellsworth
Yeah, well, we all saw the movie the Sound of Freedom, right? And we met one of the producers and the director. And the biggest issue I had with the movie was there was no issue. It was completely understandable, and it was completely something that needed to be addressed. However, the issue I do have is how the media portrayed this movie as some sort of QAnon conspiracy, as if, oh, my God, these types of things don't happen. Pbd, you said on the podcast a few weeks ago, I think just 20, 23 alone, there was, I think, 375,000 reports of mischief.
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Adam Sosnick
Yep.
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Tom Ellsworth
Something insane, right? This is. You know how many people fit into a football stadium? 60,000? 80,000, 100,000. These are five to 10 football stadiums worth of missing children. Are you freaking kidding me? And then we see this picture of this couple in their pride. Flag, family, home, agenda, whatever that was. As if. Yeah, everything's totally normal. So, yeah, you know, I think you asked the question, what should happen to these people? Without a doubt, castration done. You're losing your johnson. Sorry, guys. You're never going to be able to do this again. And by the way, Pat, Tom touched on this. In the prison system and correctional facilities, there's an unwritten code in pbd. You've interviewed mafia criminals, drug dealers, the whole lot. At the top of the list at the criminal pyramid, in terms of payback from fellow inmates. Inmates, it's crimes against children and sex offenders, no doubt. Beyond that, snitches, informants, former law enforcement. Below that, the weak and vulnerable. Vulnerable. Below that, at the top of the list are these sex offenders. These guys are going to get what's coming to them.
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Adam Sosnick
No doubt.
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Vincent Oshana
But, Adam, this is a little bit different.
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Adam Sosnick
Yeah, pbd, go ahead.
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Vincent Oshana
Well, second Adam, you mentioned the sound of freedom. All that, that. That's a separate issue. This is. This is a gay couple adopting boys. This is. And I get where you're coming from. I think that's horrible what they did with the sound of freedom. But this is the, the issue at hand is should gay couples, gay men, true gay men be able to adopt true boys? Because then that opens up bundle of possibility. I mean, they're the same sex as these guys. These, these people are not related to them. They're getting incest charges. But incest, that isn't your blood. These kids, these boys aren't your blood. And then if they get older, are you going to be sexually attracted to them? Because they're not your kids. These are strangers kids that you paid for. You bought these kids basically from. From the state because you have to go through all the paperwork and other licensing, but they're not your kids. So at one point, you're going to be showering these freaking kids with their ding a ling hanging out. That's a, That's a line where. I don't know, man. That's a. That's a touchy, touchy, touchy subject for me.
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Adam Sosnick
That's.
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Vincent Oshana
That's the.
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Adam Sosnick
That's where I'm at. I have very strong opinions about this. Very. And I think there needs to be a Hardcore pain towards someone that does something like this for you to not want to replicate it, it has to be extremely painful. In this example because you know the people that also proved for them to get the kids, what kind of background check did you, did you do on them? Yeah, because let's just say if I'm a bank and you give somebody a $2 million loan for a house, how do we do the audit on them? How do we do the underwriting? What signs did you look for outside of the credit score? What else did we see? Income to debt ratio, what else did you look through? How much cash savings did they have? Did they get fired recently? Did we call reference checks? What do we do to give these guys $2 million for a loan that after three months they can't make a car, they can't make a mortgage payment? So what is the underwriting process for a gay couple to be able to adopt a son? What did they do? What is the pro. I want to know the depth of, of that process so much before we move forward and say yes to it. And a certain level of accountability where boys are going to be interviewed every month to say, how's the experience, what's going on? And for about a good three year period until you get this, the boys need to come and be reported on how they're doing and checking them out to make sure they're good, they're healthy. Until afterwards they're like, okay, cool, it's been three years at this point. Typically takes us six months to find out that you're good. At this point of the process. In the insurance space, they call it the incontestability clause. For the first two years I can look at everything. I want to have incontestability clause. If I'm giving you two innocent boys for you to raise, I want to check you're doing your part like, you know, in US when an illegal. When somebody that's here illegally marries somebody that's a US citizen and they check to see if they really love each other, to make sure they give the citizenship to the husband. You know, that whole process. Yeah, if we're doing that, what's more important to follow up on? Boys being. It's like a no brainer to me for us to follow up on this because I'm sure some do a great job at it, but that would be it. Guys, I gotta go, I gotta go to the next story. We can't do this. You guys keep saying you want to say stuff. Okay, so next story here to go on is we'll do one last one here before we wrap up. Rob, can you pull up the tweet and the story of Bobby Kennedy about what he wants to do with Big Pharma. This is another one. That's a top 10 on my list, guys. So New York Times story comes out. R.F. kennedy Jr. Wants to ban drug ads on TV. It wouldn't be easy. Let me get this straight. This guy wants to ban Big Pharma from advertising on tv. By the way, if this gets approved, it's the kiss of death for msnbc, for NBC, for abc, for any of those guys. Rob, if you go to the top of it, Rob, on that tweet, it shows how much money these guys spent advertising. If you remove my. There you go. In 2023, Big Pharma spent $15.58 billion on advertising. So think about how many people's salary is being funneled through big Pharma to CNN to somebody, funneled through big Pharma to MSNBC to somebody. Imagine how many people's salary is being purely funneled, funneled from big Pharma to them. And a middleman is these media companies. What would Happen if that $16 billion, give or take is gone? Who loses money on them? What happens to a lot of these guys salary? Does that automatically make a company like CNN go from being worth a billion and a half to being worth a half a billion dollars? What happens all of a sudden if you don't have big form of financing you anymore, where do you get your money from? Where does it literally come from? If Bobby does something like this and this gets passed down, by the way, this is the kind of stuff that if you're pushing this. By the way, this was also my top five list. I talked about this with Vivek when I sat down with him a year and a half ago. I talked about it with this guy for the last two years. This was so important. If this goes through, Bobby Kennedy needs full time security around him. Yep, if this goes through. You guys ever seen the movie Gladiator where Russell Crowe is about to eat the soup and the other guy eats the soup, the big guy, to make sure they're not going after him. Somebody needs to eat everything that Bobby eats before Bobby eats it because Bobby officially has some of the biggest gangsters, lobbyists that are going to be targeting him if he decides to go this direction. Tom, your thoughts? How likely is it that something like this can be passed under a Trump presidency and under a Bobby Kennedy running the hhs?
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Patrick Bet-David
Well, I think the Probability is low right now, but it's rising every minute. And we also, in what you're saying about cnn, msnbc, they're so marginal right now. And by the way, it's also happening to Fox. FOX is admitting that cable news is going down. They didn't renew Neil Cavuto. He was offered a much lower contract, and yet he was kind of this more moderate voice. Guess what? The money's got to come from somewhere. So you're going to have marginal stations like msnbc, which is for sale right now, but they can't find anybody to buy it. CNN has been for sale. They were walking around with cocktail napkins that had, you know, NDAs to buy CNN at the Allen & Co. Conference last time they did that. And it got together. And if you take this money out, there's also something else that happens. The valuation of sports franchises goes down because sports franchises are being lifted up by the value of TV contracts. TV contracts are being supported by 15, 16 billion dollars per year, per year of sports advertising. So never mind the economic part of it, but I think there's a 20% chance of success on this. But I think it's rising every single day. Because the rest of the world, it doesn't work this way. It doesn't work this way. The rest of the world, Europe, no advertising. Even Africa, no advertising. No advertising in Japan, Korea, Korea, Australia, western nations now, New Zealand, little island off the coast of, you know, Australia. They allow it and we allow it, but that's it. That is it. So this would not be an unprecedented move. This would bring the globe, you know, into alignment on this. And that's, I'll say it again, I think it's 20% and rising every day. But I agree, Bobby needs protection.
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Vincent Oshana
Vinnie, you said, you know, poking the bear. I don't think it's poking the bear. I think he's walking into the cave with a torch yelling, who wants some? I remember yesterday I mentioned the movie Michael Clay, which I know you saw what you thought was, you know, we thought was phenomenal, where Michael Klan is a fixture lawyer and he's going up against this huge pharmaceutical company. And these people have, if you think about it, we're talking about multi billion dollar. Almost. Almost. I pushed hundreds of billion dollars pushing on trillion dollar companies. You gota, you got to be careful, man. This guy, this guy, look at the history of rfk. He's lost his uncle, you know, I mean, he lost his father because he, you know, they were all voicing to help the American people. This is Something that I think is extremely dangerous. I give him so much freaking credit because there's people that talk the talk that this guy with the history of murder and assassination in his family, he's still stepping up because this guy is a true genuine believer. This guy cares about the freaking country. He cares about the people. I pray to God that he's protected, but you said it. He has to be extremely careful. And that's one of the reasons I believe Vincent Oshana's opinion that the Biden administration didn't want to give him Secret Service protection for all that time because they know who he is, they know he's a freaking threat. But now under, under the Trump administration, and I'm hoping to God we still got some less than a month left, but that he's protected. That and like you said, food, random heart attack, accident in a car. We have to be very, very careful. But I think it's, you know, when it's too big to rig in that sense. But in this situation, it'd be, it'd be extremely obvious if something happens to this guy. But I pray for him every single day.
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Tom Ellsworth
So it makes complete sense now why the mainstream media absolutely villainized this guy. And credit goes to who, Donald Trump for bringing him in and said, listen, I know you're a liberal and you got some crazy thoughts, but come on in. And completely embraced. It's very interesting. By the way, who is he the son of Bobby Kennedy? Who is he a nephew of JFK, PBD. Do you remember that speech? We've talked about this 1962, where JFK gave a speech about the physical fitness of young Americans. And he said there was nothing more unfortunate than to have soft, chubby, fat looking children who go watch their school play basketball every Saturday. In regard to this week's exercise, watching instead of doing. And we all know the situation there it is right there, the situation where you have Bobby Kennedy banging out bench presses, talking about being healthy, eating healthy, getting some sun, working out, being active, being healthy. And then you juxtapose this with this fat, sloppy, overweight, disgusting creature, Dr. Peter Hotez, who said, yeah, maybe I should stop eating Doritos, but I'm on my 20th booster, allegedly. So the United States, 40% of the United States are obese and 75% of American adults are overweight. It's time for disruption in the hss. Let's get people healthy and off the sick care system and into an actual health care system. Let's get doge government efficiency. Let's get on the Ball. Let's get cash Mattel for accountability America get ready for. For some disruption. And that's exactly what we need.
- [123:17]
Vincent Oshana
Well, let me check to 1990.
- [123:20]
Adam Sosnick
Tom, you've already gone, haven't you? You guys want to go twice? Guys, if we do this, we'll be going for four hours.
- [123:26]
Tom Ellsworth
Hey, listen, when it comes to that Djibouti, I get it. Go ahead.
- [123:30]
Adam Sosnick
Did you want to say something? Go ahead.
- [123:32]
Patrick Bet-David
Tom, I just said the 1993 movie the Fugitive. Go back and watch it. It's not so far fetched, is it? Harrison Ford's wife gets killed and it's a whole plot by pharma who covered up side effects of a drug and then killed a bunch of people. And by the end of the movie to find out who killed his wife, Harrison Ford uncovers the whole plot. Not so crazy.
- [123:51]
Vincent Oshana
Killed my wife.
- [123:54]
Adam Sosnick
Okay, so Tom did the Tommy Lee Jones and the Fugitive people pay you sponsorship money we don't know about? Because I don't understand. Listen, while we're talking about getting heavier, a lot of people ate very well last night, okay? However, one person was working very hard the last 48 hours, guys, very hard. And we have to be respectful about it. And I don't appreciate some of these comments you're making, Adam, okay? And when you work as hard as he has, especially this year, traveling from LA to Miami to Australia, to Sydney, to Djibouti, to South Africa to Japan, to Leningrad to Greenland, to even Panama Canal, he doesn't discriminate against anybody. He's had a long week. They've been preparing for this for a long time. And out of his busy schedule, he decided to make some time for us and jump on here to say hello to everybody. Rob, if you could, if you could do me this favor. And if he is, if he's not on and his Internet isn't good, I understand.
- [125:11]
Vincent Oshana
I am so excited to see you guys again.
- [125:14]
Patrick Bet-David
Why?
- [125:15]
Santa Claus
You've grown up quite a bit.
- [125:17]
Patrick Bet-David
Oh my.
- [125:18]
Santa Claus
You've done so. I am wonderful. Got all rested up yesterday. Slept for about 24 hours. I'm thumbs up. Life is really good life. Thank you. I wanted to give Patrick a shout out for the opportunity to come on since we have the Internets up here at the North Pole. And Tom, I love you. Adam, you are the bomb. Vinnie. Vinnie, I love you. And Rob, I just. It's impressive to watch you work. Rob, it's impressive to work with these knuckleheads. I mean, I'm telling you what.
- [125:59]
Tom Ellsworth
Thank you so much for the.
- [126:00]
Adam Sosnick
I got a Question for you. First of all, I love your hat, I love what you got on. But here's a technical question that my kids want to know. My 3 year old and my 8 year old want to know. They're going to watch us afterwards. How are you able to get to every single person around the world in that limited time while we're asleep? How do you do that? I mean, how intense is that eight hour window that you have?
- [126:26]
Santa Claus
Well, it's a little difficult to understand, but it's multi dimensional, my dear. Can get me there so fast and so incredibly, incredibly quick to get to the top of each roof, get to the, you know, and get down the chimney and back up. It's multi directional. But it's the magic that we have. And we're going to be talking a little bit about that magic that we all have within our hearts and we're all capable of that magic. So don't let me forget, I want to talk about that magic that your boys have.
- [127:02]
Adam Sosnick
So, so the question with the magics is when, when you're out there in North Pole and you know, all these people make movies making fun of you guys, I don't like it, but is there any Christmas movie they made that they depicted you in the most accurate possible way where you guys feel comfortable watching it together with all the elves and everybody else that's working out there? What movie do you guys like watching? Is it Elf? Is it Christmas Story? Is it Home Alone one? Is it two? What movie do you like watching the most that you trust?
- [127:35]
Santa Claus
We like all the three series of Santa. There's three series of Santa, the Santa Claus, it's all those. But we also tie in some of the traditional like Christmas story. Matter of fact, I have the lamp in my living room window right now. I wish I could show it to you from Christmas Cold.
- [127:56]
Adam Sosnick
Yeah.
- [127:57]
Santa Claus
And then there's actually even a book. There's even a book. Life's Lessons from the Christmas Story. It's really a good book.
- [128:06]
Adam Sosnick
Yeah. What's the magic? Tell us about the magic, you know, of the, the special season of Christmas and what it stands for, the story behind it. What's the magic behind it?
- [128:17]
Santa Claus
This is the magic. I'm glad you brought it up. I remember a little boy who once was looking into the stars over Tehran, dreaming of a life of freedom and opportunity and family. That was his guiding light. You don't just follow that dream, Patrick. You created the path that now the light is the way for millions. That is what's so impressive. That's the Magic in all of us. I think the world needs more PBD magic. I think the world needs more PBD magic. And this Christmas is. Your story is one of great. The one of the greatest gifts of hope that anybody could ask for. The future looks bright. The future looks bright.
- [129:30]
Tom Ellsworth
You're incredible, man. You're absolutely.
- [129:34]
Adam Sosnick
I love it. We appreciate you for coming in and sharing your thoughts. The gifts. When you came in here quickly and you left, I hope you enjoyed the cookie that was left. The kids always ask. We hope we make the best cookies and you enjoyed. We have. Tom's wife, Kim is. Is a little bit. She gets a little bit. When we get the cookie stuff that we got yesterday. She gets upset if we share it. Like she doesn't like it. But she was kind enough to share with the rest of us and it was a very kind gesture from her. I'm sure she's going to see this here. But anyways, we love you. We appreciate you and we're going to put the link below on Instagram for anybody to go out there and actually follow Santa. Guys, this is real stuff. For some of you guys that are older that you don't believe. I still believe at 46 years old that this is real. Final thoughts here before we wrap up.
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Tom Ellsworth
I'll go first.
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Santa Claus
You're talking.
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Adam Sosnick
I want to go Santa.
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Tom Ellsworth
Sorry.
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Adam Sosnick
Okay.
- [130:34]
Santa Claus
Well, the.
- [130:35]
Adam Sosnick
Let's see.
- [130:35]
Santa Claus
I had something in mind, but when you were talking about. I hope. I hope that we can show up to one of your events sometime soon, Patrick, because I think we can do great things together and I look forward to it. Yeah, I want to be able to do that for you and I'd be happy. Oh, don't forget.
- [130:55]
Adam Sosnick
I have.
- [130:55]
Santa Claus
I wanted everybody to know that I have a manek. I got my first one the other day. So I'm excited about that and being audience. Yes, I got my first one. I wasn't able to do it because they wanted.
- [131:10]
Adam Sosnick
What's your. What's your. Where should I find you on Manette? I'm an you right now myself, Santa. Cor.
- [131:18]
Santa Claus
C O R K Y O.
- [131:20]
Adam Sosnick
R K y yeah, I'm coming up, guys. Some of you got quite a few manouts, but.
- [131:29]
Vincent Oshana
I just want to say one thing.
- [131:31]
Tom Ellsworth
First of all.
- [131:33]
Adam Sosnick
Gang, do me a favor. Let's put his handle below. Everybody, if you're watching this and you support this channel, send a manect to Santa Cork. Let's see if we can get 100. If we can get him a hundred minutes in a day. Rob, put the handle below. Santa. Corky. C O R K Y. I just sent you one. Go ahead, Vinnie.
- [131:56]
Vincent Oshana
Yeah, I just want to say, Santa, you know, you know, a couple of. Couple of Christmases, I know I was naughty and. And you know, I didn't get anything, which is fine. But I'm just curious, did Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Clinton get anything? For the past 20 years, have you been avoiding them or you actually been opening them up?
- [132:14]
Santa Claus
I absolutely have. They are level four on the naughty list.
- [132:19]
Patrick Bet-David
Level four.
- [132:20]
Tom Ellsworth
You think I'm kidding?
- [132:21]
Santa Claus
You think I'm kidding?
- [132:26]
Tom Ellsworth
He's on here.
- [132:26]
Santa Claus
I pointed out. But we don't have the time.
- [132:34]
Adam Sosnick
Oh, my God. There you go. Santa. Corky on Manek. I just sent you on for video. Thank you, Santa. Appreciate you guys. Take care, everybody. We will not do a podcast till next week. God bless. Merry Christmas. We'll see you guys next week. Have a great weekend, everyone. Take care.
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Vincent Oshana
Bye.