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Patrick Bet-David
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Tom Zawacki
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Patrick Bet-David
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Tom Zawacki
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Patrick Bet-David
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Tom Zawacki
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Laura Trump
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Tom Zawacki
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Laura Trump
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Patrick Bet-David
30 seconds. Did you ever think you were making I feel I'm supposed like a tasty victory I know this life meant for me.
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Vincent
Yeah.
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Patrick Bet-David
Why would you bet on Goliath when we got bet David? Valuetainment giving values contagious this world of entrepreneurs we get no value to hate it how they run homie.
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Laura Trump
Look what I become.
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Patrick Bet-David
I'm the I'm the one number one. Look at that at the top, folks. This is the first podcast we're doing since the election night that we did which was absolutely insane. What a couple thousand people in House with 291,000 concurrent watching us for eight straight hours. You guys were crazy who were with us on election night. But we thought about who would be the right person to be here to speak on Thursday to give us a little bit of insight. Somebody that played a very, very important role that maybe the opposition feared a little bit. Maybe. I don't know. I'm just thinking because they couldn't do some of the stuff that maybe they wanted to do. The great Laura Trump is in the house. It's great to have you.
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Laura Trump
Hey, thank you. That's what a nice intro. I appreciate that.
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Patrick Bet-David
Anytime. So we got a lot of stories we're going to cover. Laura, we want some inside scoop on what's going on. I know Kamala gave her speech yesterday just. Yes, just yesterday. I think the new the way the market reacted added $1.62 trillion of wealth to folks in America. Just so you know, with the amount of how Dow react it's, you know, S and P is about to cross 6,000. What? Tom, did you say the biggest plus minus a post election ever in the history of America.
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Vincent
Donald Trump sparked the biggest single day post pop in the stock market in S P in history.
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Patrick Bet-David
In history.
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Vincent
History.
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Patrick Bet-David
Crypto Bitcoin hit his highest ever. There is some unfortunate news that we have to. We can't just give all the, you know, the good stuff.
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Tom Zawacki
What happened?
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Patrick Bet-David
Jimmy Kimmel had a hard time last night.
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Tom Zawacki
I saw that. Yeah, he got me emotional.
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Patrick Bet-David
That's not appropriate. And Sunny made some comments about uneducated white women. I don't know if you've seen this or not. So that's not which we have to react from the view. She said these uneducated white women is why we have president in the White House. Then your guy who you love, Morning Joe, you know who he playing? He said Hispanics are racist. I can't even when I'm listening to this guy. The Domano like them losing their mind. So we're going to cover a lot of that stuff.
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Vincent
Yeah. The media is having a coping pandemic.
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Patrick Bet-David
Rachel Maddow couldn't wait till she blamed Russia. Ford, Juan Williams. Van Jones said people who don't have papers are terrified. Tonight, Trump sees a 50% boost in New York Jewish vote compared to 2020. There's one clip, folks, you have to see. I'm explaining this to my dad early this morning. Brooklyn doesn't want to go to school this morning. She's up six o'clock, I don't want to go to school today. Three years old, she doesn't want to go to school today. So I'm downstairs and I'm explaining, Papa. I'm like, do you know how many counties not states Kamala outperformed Biden of 2020? And I know you know, and I'm asking him, I asked Jen, I asked Mickey. I'm like, do you think 50%? Do you think 30%? Do you think like county, not state? Rob, do you have that clip? We have to show that. We'll show that here in a minute.
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Vincent
It's equal to her iq.
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Patrick Bet-David
Zelensky pushes to congratulate Trump. Maduro had some comments. The Iranian leader tweeted something out which was interesting. Houthis declare immediate ceasefire against the idf. I wonder why. Tesla could reach a trillion dollars market cap under Trump win. New York Times admits WOKE ideology is losing its grip in the country. And there's a bunch of different things that's going on. And before I get into it, Rob, if you can pull up one thing, guys, I want to show you this. First, go to the numbers on what happened with us on election night. Then I'll go on manekt and then we'll get right into the podcast. So this is us just four years ago. We started PBD podcast, our first live. Rob, if you can Zoom in, have 57 people join us on the first live. 57.
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Tom Zawacki
57.
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Patrick Bet-David
Are we hit? 57. This is what I said. I said, I just want to thank all the 57 people that are here with us. So this was election night. Okay, That's PBD podcast concurrent. Associated Press was number two. ABC News, Kirk, what a phenomenal job he did.
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Tom Zawacki
He was awesome.
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Patrick Bet-David
Benny Johnson, Tim Cass, msnbc, Election time. Megan Kelly, Daily Wire, NBC News, Al Jazeer, BBC. You're talking everybody there. And PBD podcast was at the top. And our peak that we hit was 291 on that night. The energy in the building was ridiculous. On what happened, number one, a YouTube insider reached out to us and they looked at all the data. They said we were number one worldwide for all the lives. So congratulations, by the way. It wouldn't have happened with everybody that's watching us out there. You've stayed with us for four years. Whatever reason, you'll like what we talk about. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's Adam's looks. Maybe it's Vinny's when he gets angry. Patriot. Maybe it's Tom's knowledge and brain. Maybe it's the fights. Maybe it's the fact that we don't judge Adam. I don't know what it is. Could be the comedy, but most importantly, the guests that have agreed to come on. And in the Trump family, the last two weeks, we've had the man, Donald Trump came, Eric Trump came. Now we have Laura, Cannot wait to get into the stories with you. But also for those of you guys during election time that everybody's using the Manek app, I want to say this before we get started. We started the app four years ago. 28 completed Manex questions answered. The entire year 2022 was 5:51. 2023 completed questions answered. 25, 93, 2024. So far, 37,000 questions have been asked and answered. So for many of you, Cuomo, you can ask him questions. Sage, Steele, Tulsi, who else you got? Candace, Dave Smith, Ian Carroll, Ryan Montgomery. Jean Claude Van Damme is on Manek right now. You can ask him questions. Literally, he just got them. Emily Austin, you have so many different people. And as well as the folks here, Tom, Vincent, Adam, myself, you can download the app and start manecting today. With that being said, Laura, hello. How does it feel now that it's over? And at what point did you guys know, I guess when you're at Marlogo, everybody's seen the pictures. President sitting there, Dana White, Elon Musk. Elon's got his kid on the shoulder. You know, we had a couple people telling us, here's what the energy is like in Marlogwal. At what point did, you know we're winning this thing?
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Laura Trump
I think, look, we knew we had one North Carolina, we were waiting for Georgia, and we knew any minute they were, they were going to have to call Georgia. And, you know, we have all of our people on the ground in these places giving us their feedback. Pennsylvania looked really good. And it really seemed like from everything we were hearing across the country, things were all going to trend our way. And I think it was probably around, what, like 12:30 in the morning or something that we realized we probably should make our way to the convention center, because there was a speech that was going to be made at some point. Um, but it was a little bit different than 2016, 2016. I feel like every state that came in, even states like Mississippi, that, you know we're going to win, we're like, yeah, that was always good, but this time, you know, there were the seven states that, I mean, we killed ourselves and time and time, and no one more so than my father in law. But it's amazing, you know, it, it is so much sweeter in 2024 than it ever could have been in 2020. And I actually think it's so much better overall for him, and I think it'll be better for the country. You know, I'm sure people have talked about this already, but in 2020, had he won, there was obviously so much against him, but he also would not have had a House and a Senate. Right. The Democrats were in control of that. We obviously have a majority now in the Senate. We will. And the House feels pretty good. Looks like it's going to trend our way. Fingers crossed. But, you know, having gone through everything he has over the past four years, seeing how bad things have gotten in this country, I think has awakened a lot of people. And I don't think once you're awake, you're going to go back to sleep. I think it's why we saw people come out and vote in the numbers they did for Donald Trump in these voting blocs that have traditionally always gone Democrat. I think that it is so much better now for America and for the future of this country that Donald Trump won in 2024. I'm. I mean, all I can say is it's absolutely Incredible.
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Patrick Bet-David
I got a question for you. So we're, we're there, we start at 7, we end at 3:30, whatever the time was. And I'm watching, we're all betting after they announced Pennsylvania, after they announced Georgia, after all this stuff that's going on, you know, Donald Trump's headed towards, you know, the convention center. Then you see the picture I think your husband posted is him reading the speech, right. Those papers and the big picture, which was great. So then everybody's saying, when do you think he's going to come up and speak and how long is the speech going to be? So we're making a wager with everybody that's watching. Will it be less than five minutes? No. Will it be less than 10 minutes?
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Laura Trump
No.
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Patrick Bet-David
We'll be less than 20 minutes? No. We'll be 30 minutes? No. Everyone's like, it's going to be over an hour, right? So he comes up at 226. At this point, I'm watching him on stage. He's 78 years old. He's been running and gunning and he's up there like having fun, telling jokes.
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Tom Zawacki
Hey, J.D.
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Patrick Bet-David
Why don't you say a couple words? Hey, Dana, why don't you come on up here? Gotta give congrats.
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Laura Trump
Congratulations, Bryson DeChambeau. So gotta get Bryson up here. Yeah.
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Patrick Bet-David
So I mean when you, and he went 26 minutes. When you, you're around him and so he's your father in law, but he's also somebody you're helping become president and you're married to his son, but you're also somebody that's playing a role. So. And you're playing a very important job. You don't have a light. It's not like, hey, I'm a supportive spouse. That's not you. You have your own identity that you're doing what you're doing. When you're watching this guy from all those different lenses, how do you view him when you think about Donald Trump?
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Laura Trump
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Tom Zawacki
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Laura Trump
Harvard to your resume. Resume with Harvard Professional and Executive Development. Learn more at Professional dce, Harvard Edu, Spotify. Oh gosh, I've so I've known him for 16 years. Actually my 10 year wedding anniversary is tomorrow. And if you were. Thank you. If you remember, that was election day in 2016, November 8th. So it was our two year wedding anniversary for me and Eric. I've known him for so long. I've seen him go through so much. It's hard for me to see him as anything other than my father in law because that's how I've known him for so long. But I have such respect for this man. I've seen him go through the toughest things imaginable that I can't believe he's actually endured and still stood up and kept fighting and never wavered for a single second. But, you know, this man I believe, and I said this last night on with Sean Hannity. I really believe when history looks back on Donald Trump, he will be one of the greatest leaders this world has ever seen. And you know, the reason that I think it was important for him to win in 24 instead of 20 is because now that these people, people are starting to realize, look, the mainstream media lies constantly. All those people you're just talking about in the intro here, all the folks who are out there melting down the sunnies, the, whoever it is out there, Rachel, Madd out there. Yeah. People saying they're going to put, put you in camps. I mean, this stuff is so outrageous. And people are starting to see, like, hey, they've lied to us about this man for so long and all he ever wanted was to do what's right for America and to save this country, really. And he does it because he loves this country. And, you know, I just think that I'm so honored to be by his side for all of these things. And there was that moment, I took a picture of him too, when he was reading that speech backstage, the picture Eric took, because it's just, he deserves this more than anyone. He worked so hard for it. He fought against everything they threw his way. And I could not be prouder to be part of his team for this.
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Patrick Bet-David
Why do you guys work so hard for him? Why does the entire family work so hard for him?
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Laura Trump
Well, I think we know what his ultimate goal is. And I can tell you, look, you go back and there was an Oprah interview in the 80s, and she asked him, would you ever run for president? And he said, only if I felt like my country needed me, you know, only if I felt like things got so bad I had no other choice. I think he did it in 2016 because he knew the country needed him. And I've seen him look, look at what he did his first term in office. You know, he had constant incoming people constantly fighting against him. The left, the media, everybody. And he actually did so many great things for America. Don't forget, he never took a salary while he was in the White House. He donated it. The only president to go into the White House, come out of the White House with less money than he went into the White House with. He's lost zeros off the back of his net worth because he loves America. And I know he. He knows that his charge is to save this country and I believe turn it around. And I think whenever you're working for something that's bigger than yourself, it's very easy to keep going, to hustle, to do whatever it is you need to do. And I know him, I know his heart. I know why he's doing this. And for me, it makes it very easy to work very hard.
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Patrick Bet-David
What's the first thing he said to you when he met you? First time Eric brought, you know, to him, introduced you to him, what was the first thing he said to you?
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Laura Trump
Well, this is an interesting story. So I met him at the US Open tennis tournament. Eric and I had been dating for a couple months, and in traditional Eric Trump fashion, he did not tell me I was going to meet his dad the day I met him. Very little information. Just, oh, do you want to go to like a. This tennis thing with me? And I was like, yeah, okay. I grew up in a very, like, middle class family, not to get Kamala.
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Elon Musk
Harris on anybody, but a middle class family.
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Laura Trump
My parents were small business owners. I won't go. I did not. I worked at a car wash. Did.
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Vincent
You have a nice lawn?
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Laura Trump
People had nice lawns in my neighborhood. It's true. And they cared about those lawns. But I. So I. When you say you're taking me to, like, a tennis tournament, I think, okay, we're sitting in like, the bleachers, like, whatever. So I come dressed for that. Then we roll up and we go into a separate parking area. And I notice we're not going to sit out in the bleachers. And I was like, oh, these are. These are like the nice suites that we're going to. Okay. Already felt underdressed. And then the door opens and then there's Donald Trump and Melania Trump. And I was like, oh, my gosh, you could have told me that you were going to introduce me to your dad, you know, and it's there that stakes are always pretty high.
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Patrick Bet-David
What is he wearing?
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Laura Trump
Like, oh, he's in a suit.
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Patrick Bet-David
He's in a suit. And he had you just go, yeah.
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Laura Trump
And I'm like, in. You know, I have sandals On I look, whatever.
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Elon Musk
Eric's in a suit.
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Laura Trump
Eric was. I'm trying to remember what Eric was wearing. I actually don't remember. Sorry, honey. Um, but my father in law was in a suit. You're always nervous when you meet your potential future in laws. When the last name is Trump. It's a little bit more at this point.
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Patrick Bet-David
How long have you guys been together?
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Laura Trump
Like, two months after.
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Patrick Bet-David
So he's fully committed to you. He's bringing you to, apparently. Good for him.
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Laura Trump
You made me wait six years till we got married. But I digress. So we walk in, and of course I'm like, oh, my gosh. But maybe it was better I didn't know because I didn't have time to get nervous or think about it. And, you know, he shook my hand, said, nice to meet you. And then we sat down to watch tennis, and I was kind of like, oh, my God, like, what do I do? And he looked over at me and he goes, I'm gonna get an ice cream. Do you like ice cream? And I was like, yeah, yeah, I like ice cream. And he was like, I'm gonna get you an ice cream. I was like, oh, my God. Donald Trump likes ice cream. Like, this could all be okay. That was sort of my intro, and that was the icebreaker as I was like, all right, he's gonna get me an ice cream. Like, we're all good now. But that was my first introduction.
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Patrick Bet-David
And then did he have. When he came back, did you guys have a conversation? Is he talking?
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Laura Trump
Yeah. He asked me about where I was from and, you know, where I'd gone to school and what I was doing, what I wanted, why did I move to New York, all the common things. But he was very. Honestly, the thing people will tell you about Donald Trump whenever you first meet him is he's very disarming. And he talks to you just like. I mean, you guys know, because he came in here, but he's not. You know, sometimes you find it hard to talk to people with the stature that he has. He's not like that at all. He makes you feel comfortable. He talks to you like a real person. And, you know, I immediately was sort of at ease, you know, talking with him.
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Patrick Bet-David
How different is he off camera versus on camera? How different is he on stage going at it, the enemy calling him out, trolling. Versus he's on Air Force One or he's on, you know, Trump. You know, you guys are flying around, you're in Mar A Lago, you're with the family.
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Laura Trump
How different is He, I mean, honestly, he's. What you see with Donald Trump is pretty much what you get. The only thing I'll say is he is one of the funniest people I have ever met. There's no one who's going to tell a story like Donald Trump and make you laugh. The things that he says and the stories he has are absolutely incredible. But I think that's what people love about him is, you know, oftentimes the criticism of him is we wish he'd be more presidential, you know, more professional. This is Donald Trump and that's why people love him, because what you see out there truly is what you get with him. And he's, some people would say transparent to a fault, but I don't know. He just became president and won the popular vote and now, you know, he did a second time.
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Patrick Bet-David
So when did you get the job? When did the market announce that you are running? You know, you're responsible. Was it right after what Vivek did with Ronna McDaniel? Did you have any clue he was going to do that when he went up on stage or. No.
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Laura Trump
Oh. That. He wanted me to be the coacher of the rnc. He called me. So I got a call from him, this is probably back in January, and it was weird because usually he just calls me, but somebody from his office had texted me and said, could you take a call from your father in law in an hour? And I was like, why wouldn't you just call me? And then whenever the call came through, he obviously, he called me. But then there were several people there with him and the ask was, would you run for co chair of the rnc? Because this is not a position you're appointed to. You have to run. And there are 168 members of the Republican National Committee who actually vote you into this position. So had they not wanted me there, I wouldn't be here right now. As the co chair of the rnc, he could say it all day.
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Patrick Bet-David
Interesting establishment. No matter what they have to select.
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Laura Trump
They have to choose you. Yes.
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Patrick Bet-David
And what percentage do you have to get? Is it 60? Is it?
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Laura Trump
Yeah, I mean that's a, it's, it's a less of an official vote. It's more of everybody in favor, say I got it type of thing. But he called and he told me that he thought that this would be a great position for me. And my immediate response was absolutely not. Look, I, I knew the stakes in this election. I've seen how much they fought against this man. I've seen what he has to go through. And I knew how hard they were going to make this election in particular. And I have two young kids. I have a lot of other professional pursuits, personally that I have going on. And I knew what it would take to win this election. And I said, I don't know that I want to get myself into this right now, to be honest with you. And he, of course, goes, all right, honey, What? No pressure, but it's gotta be you type of thing. Of course, he's very persuasive.
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Elon Musk
It was a pretty good Trump, by the way.
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Laura Trump
It's not bad. It's not bad. I've worked on it.
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Patrick Bet-David
But did you know this was going to happen? Did you know Vivek was going to get up and blast Ronna McDaniel or.
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Laura Trump
No, no, I didn't know this at all.
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Patrick Bet-David
So this was a shocker to you?
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Laura Trump
Yeah.
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Patrick Bet-David
Rob, we can't ever watch this enough times.
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Tom Zawacki
This is February and we're here, right? We're here.
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Patrick Bet-David
No, no, we're at the event. Go to play this clip. Swami, let me turn to you.
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Vincent
Please make your case.
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Patrick Bet-David
Why would you. Why should you be the nominee and not the former president?
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Tom Zawacki
I think there's something deeper going on in the Republican Party here, and I.
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Patrick Bet-David
Am upset about what happened last night.
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Tom Zawacki
We've become a party of losers.
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Patrick Bet-David
At the end of the day is a cancer. The Republican establishment speak the truth.
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Tom Zawacki
I mean, since Ronna McDaniel took over as chairwoman of the RNC in 2017, we have lost. 2018, 2020, 2022.
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Patrick Bet-David
No red wave that never came.
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Tom Zawacki
We got trounced last night in 2023.
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Laura Trump
And I think that we have to.
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Patrick Bet-David
Have accountability in our party for that.
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Tom Zawacki
Matter, Ron, if you want to come.
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Patrick Bet-David
On stage tonight, you want to look.
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Laura Trump
The GOP voters in the eye and.
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Tom Zawacki
Tell them, you resign, I will turn.
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Patrick Bet-David
Over my yield my time to you.
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Tom Zawacki
Ready?
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Patrick Bet-David
And frankly, look the people there cheering for losing in the Republican Party. Think about who's moderating this debate.
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Tom Zawacki
This should be Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan and Elon Musk.
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Patrick Bet-David
We'd have 10 times the viewership asking questions that GOP primary voters actually care about and bring in more people into our party.
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Laura Trump
You think the Democrats.
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Tom Zawacki
And we've got Kristen welcome here.
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Patrick Bet-David
Do you think the Democrats would actually hire Greg Gutfeld to host a Democratic debate? They wouldn't do it.
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Laura Trump
And so the fact of the matter is, I mean, Kristen, I'm going to use this time because this is actually.
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Tom Zawacki
About you in the media and the corrupt media establishment. Ask you, the Trump Russia collusion hoax.
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Patrick Bet-David
That you pushed on this network for.
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Tom Zawacki
Years, was that real or was that.
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Patrick Bet-David
Hillary Clinton made up this information?
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Laura Trump
Answer the question.
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Tom Zawacki
Go look at her face. I don't know what to say. I want to go home ability because.
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Patrick Bet-David
This Media rigged the 2016 election.
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Tom Zawacki
They rigged the 2020 election with 100.
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Patrick Bet-David
Biden laptop story and they're going to rig this one.
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Laura Trump
Your time is up.
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Vincent
Wow, Lester, your career is up.
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Laura Trump
You know what I love is whenever these people in the media who try to like savagely attack all of us get just a little taste of what they throw out there, they have no idea how to handle it at all. They are that. That was a panicked face right there. Could you imagine if she had to be up on stage and answer that question?
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Tom Zawacki
Oh yeah, get it.
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Patrick Bet-David
So when that happened, what happens next to you? Who's calling you?
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Laura Trump
So my father in law called with all these people right after that. Like that night or what night was that?
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Tom Zawacki
I think this is February.
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Patrick Bet-David
What I'm wondering is, is it like, hey babe, you're, you're taking over?
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Laura Trump
Well, I think he knew he was he before that. He knew that he wanted to make some changes and I think he knew that in order to successfully, you know, win this election, you probably needed a little bit of restructuring at the rnc. And so he called and asked me if I would run for co chair. And I told him no initially. And then to be honest, that it was that night I was putting my kids in bed and thinking about how much time I would ultimately spend away from them and how hard it would probably be on them that I was like, you know what? I think I have to do this because I got to make sure that these kids get to live in the greatest country on earth. And I never want to second guess and say like, what if I had done this? So here we are.
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Tom Zawacki
So it's a. Laura, quick question. What. So you come in. What do you think was the biggest thing lacking? I'm pretty sure the people were kind of telling you that Ronna wasn't doing that. She was overlooking. That's the first question. And then the second, on the days leading up election day and all that stuff, because you were, you were dispatching lawyers and to Pennsylvania and all that stuff. What was the biggest thing that you saw yourself doing in those days leading up to stop them from doing what they were doing?
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Laura Trump
Well, I think first and foremost we had to, we got rid of quite a few people at the rnc and I think the RNC Was probably doing too many things, you know, trying to be everything to everyone. You're nothing to anyone. Right. And so when Michael Watley and I took over, he's the chairman, we said we need to actually pare things back and really focus on just three things. We want to have a world class convention, we want to get out the vote and we want to protect the ballot. And those three things are literally all we focused on. So we put together this election integrity operation and we said we've got to pull so much of our resources into this and focus on this, get it structurally sound set up, get people in place now so that we're not playing catch up, get the rules of the road set up, making sure that people are actually cleaning their voter rolls in states. We have sued Jocelyn Benson, who's the Secretary of State of Michigan so many times I never want to hear her name again. My gosh. But it's because you have to have it set up right going into this election season. So the fact that that is really all we focused on, I think was key. And then you have to get the message out, right? It's, it's one thing to just do all this in the background, but we wanted to make sure people knew. And I said it every time I got an opportunity. I felt like a broken record talking about our program, that we had a goal of recruiting 100,000 people to do the jobs of poll watcher and poll worker around the country. We ended up with 230,000, by the way, 500 lawyers in every battleground state. But we also had to advertise it and we had to make sure that people knew that we were serious. So every chance I got, I said, if you're going to go out there and cheat, we'll find you, we'll track you down and we'll prosecute you to the full extent of the law. And then when we saw issues happen in, sometimes in the primaries, which is when we tested this program, we saw them in the early voting periods, we addressed them immediately. We did not wait. And I think that was key because anyone out there who wanted to mess around knew we weren't playing, we were taking it very seriously and don't even try it. So I feel like mission accomplished in primary.
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Patrick Bet-David
What did you test when you said we tested it in primary? How did you see areas of weakness that they were going to try to play games there? What did you notice?
- [26:15]
Laura Trump
Well, it was really the, the program we put in place so we would have attorneys. We, every time a vote is cast and counted. You need eyes on it. You need people in the room watching. And so we would have our attorneys deployed to these various locations during the primaries. And if they would see a problem, we kind of had a war room set up. They would phone the problem back, and then those group of lawyers would figure out what's the best way to address it. It was just we had to work out the kinks and say, is this the best process in place for when the actual, you know, voting starts? During early voting period, teaching the people who we had trained in these locations what to look for. Note that the machine should never be connected to the Internet. How they should be recalibrated every single day. If they saw a problem, how do they report it? How do we get things done very quickly?
- [27:01]
Patrick Bet-David
Laura, how do you know this stuff?
- [27:03]
Laura Trump
I've had to learn it all.
- [27:04]
Patrick Bet-David
You've had. That's what I'm saying. You've had to learn it like in the last year.
- [27:07]
Laura Trump
Yeah, I'm a quick study. Turns out.
- [27:11]
Patrick Bet-David
So when the president calls you and says, another reason?
- [27:14]
Laura Trump
I said, I don't know if I want this job. There's a lot to do. There's a lot to learn.
- [27:18]
Patrick Bet-David
All of this stuff is in the last year of learning on. Okay, so let me ask the other question. So seven battleground state, 500 lawyers in each, 1500 the other places. Because the numbers we've heard is 5000. So of the 500, seven, how are you finding the right lawyers? What is the filtering process? Is there an ad saying we're interested? Are you calling and saying. And then are they communicating with each other? How are you filtering the hires?
- [27:42]
Laura Trump
So we, we had a. We had a website set up, and we went around and we actually tried to go to local media markets and do radio and television. And we would host an opening of what we called our Election integrity offices across the country and all the battleground states and in all the major cities. And we wanted to get on TV and radio and say, hey, if you're a person who wants a free, fair and transparent election, if you're an attorney, you don't need to be trained in election law. We will train you in terms of what you need to do and what you need to know. Please go to this website and sign up. And we had a whole vetting process, a team who vetted all these people and then put the boots on the ground and got them in place.
- [28:21]
Patrick Bet-David
Did you. Did you guys say what we can pay per. This is this much parade per hour or some of the lawyers who were better than others could get more.
- [28:29]
Laura Trump
Most of these people were volunteer.
- [28:31]
Patrick Bet-David
Are you kidding? What percentage of the 3,500 was volunteer?
- [28:35]
Laura Trump
I would have to go back and actually look. But look, we had paid lawyers in the states, but I don't think it was more. It was a very small percentage. I want to say maybe 10%, maybe 5%.
- [28:46]
Patrick Bet-David
And how. And how much time did they volunteer? If you added each of these 500 lawyers, time volunteering to give in, how many hours did each give?
- [28:56]
Laura Trump
It was all different. Is whatever people could do. You know, if you could do one day and that's all you could give, we would take you for the one day because that one day is important. You know, you have early voting that usually starts three weeks or so out from election day. And we need people to cover these. These locations. But if you could give us more, we would take more brilliance people. But people were so desperate to know that they could trust our elections. They were so desperate. Why do we have the disparity? 81 million votes in 2020 for a guy who campaigned out of his basement. And now people are going back and dissecting it and saying, wait a minute, something looks a little off here. Do you think? You cannot have a country if people don't trust our electoral process. It's not the United States anymore. And we had to do this to make sure that not only did we catch people who were cheating, but that we turned out our voters. Because if you have people around the country, imagine you're a guy who hasn't voted in the past two presidential election cycles. Why is it you would take your time to go out and stand in a line? If you're saying they're going to cheat anyway, I might as well not even bother. So we had the reason we had to do this. Obviously, we want to catch anybody cheating. We wanted to be a deterrent for anyone to cheat, but we also had to give confidence to our voters that, yes, your vote matters, your vote counts, and when you cast it this election, it will be worth it.
- [30:13]
Patrick Bet-David
Who did you annoy the most?
- [30:15]
Laura Trump
Oh, a guy named Josh Helton. I'm sorry, Josh. He's one of our. He's one of the top of our election integrity.
- [30:20]
Patrick Bet-David
But he's on your side.
- [30:21]
Laura Trump
Oh, yeah.
- [30:22]
Patrick Bet-David
No, what I mean is from the opposition. Who did you annoy? The. On the other side was like, oh, my God, they're a little bit too much. They're in this. You know, they're leave us alone. Like, there was a clip I saw with this guy Tall, good looking, white guy, probably in his mid-20s. He's telling the mayor is like, you know what you're doing? Why are you making them go across the street to vote? What county was this?
- [30:41]
Tom Zawacki
Rob, you remember? Oh, yeah, he was outside. Because they were outside. No, you know what you're doing?
- [30:45]
Patrick Bet-David
You know what you're doing? We've been asking for this. This is not a safe area. Who did you upset the most? Was it more the Obamas? Was it more the guys that know the games that you're kind of revealing and they're like, wait a minute, they're kind of not allowing us to use the one card that we always use. Who was upset with you the most?
- [31:05]
Laura Trump
I'm gonna say probably the DNC chair, Jamie Harrison, who tried to make fun of me and joke about me and yeah, Laura, great job. You're going to pay off Donald Trump's league. Really nasty and just, you know, condescending initially. Sorry, Jamie, looks like it didn't work out for you. Michael Steele, who was also the former chair of the rnc, also didn't have very kind things to say about me. So I imagine the fact that this has been very successful is probably very annoying.
- [31:35]
Patrick Bet-David
Michael Steele from the RNC was.
- [31:37]
Laura Trump
Yeah. But he, now he's, he's a never Trump guy. He hates us.
- [31:40]
Elon Musk
He was part of the.
- [31:41]
Vincent
And he was embarrassed by reflection. You're embarrassing him by the.
- [31:46]
Laura Trump
Thanks, Michael. Thanks for all the support and the encouragement.
- [31:49]
Elon Musk
Laura, staying on the RNC here because I think it is important. I think it's almost representative of who you are in terms of what Trump has done versus the establishment. I mean, the person whose job you took, Ronna McDaniel, her maiden name is Romney, so she's a Romney. So if you just want to use sort of symbolic measures, Trump shows up, 2016, just gets rid of the Bush legacy. I mean, they're done. I would argue that George W. Bush, probably the worst president we've had in terms of policymaking, maybe, certainly in my lifetime. Vivek basically dismantles Ronna McDaniel. Boom. You show up, here you are with a MAGA necklace right here.
- [32:28]
Laura Trump
What's up?
- [32:29]
Elon Musk
So there you go. It's, it's, it's truly symbolic. The establishment is now done and the Republican Party is now sort of made up under MAGA and Trump.
- [32:40]
Laura Trump
Yeah.
- [32:40]
Elon Musk
What will the future of the RNC look like with you at the helm? Trump at the helm, what will that look like?
- [32:47]
Laura Trump
I mean, I think it's just a lot of common sense. You Know, one of the things we did initially was we got rid of a lot of staff. There were a lot of people there who were being paid. And I'm not sure exactly what their job was, but it just seemed excessive. And it's. It's really the approach that Donald Trump has had to when he's president. And, you know, I think you saw the proof in the pudding, common sense stuff. And I think the thing that people are going to reflect, especially on this election, is how much he's expanded the tent in the Republican Party. And that's my hope. Look, when I took this position, I said, I want every person to realize that the Republican Party is for you. I want people who have never considered this to be a party for them to come on over. And you saw that in the vote totals. You saw voting blocks that the Democrats thought they didn't even have to work for, coming over and voting for Donald Trump in historic numbers. So my hope is starting in 2024 and going into elections in the future. We have people from all walks of life, all backgrounds, all religions. Whatever you do, whoever you love, whatever you look like, it doesn't matter. This is a party for you.
- [33:53]
Patrick Bet-David
I don't know. I want to go on a couple of clips. I want to go on a couple of clips because we haven't used these. We had her put it on her hair.
- [33:59]
Laura Trump
I know.
- [34:01]
Patrick Bet-David
Yeah. Can you pull up the one clip? The one clip I want to show is Jake Tapper. This is the one that I'm showing this morning. That, by the way, this to me made no sense at all. This. But I don't think there's a statistic that is more embarrassing than this, maybe in the history of politics to say you could not. So, folks, I'm going to ask you a question, and I want you to see this, if you haven't seen it already. Counties. How many counties do you think Kamala Harris outperformed Biden in 2020? Kamala Harris, counties. 2024. Biden, 2020. Watch Jake Tapper's reaction. Go ahead, Rob.
- [34:43]
Laura Trump
Are there any places that the vice President is overperforming Joe Biden in 2020? So we can show you that as well. We just bring that out here. Harris Overperforming 2020. Holy smokes. There you go. Anything in the east side there?
- [34:56]
Vincent
Literally nothing.
- [34:57]
Laura Trump
Literally nothing.
- [34:58]
Patrick Bet-David
Literally.
- [34:58]
Laura Trump
Not one county by 3% or more.
- [35:01]
Tom Zawacki
Holy smokes.
- [35:03]
Patrick Bet-David
Not one county less than 30% or more.
- [35:06]
Laura Trump
Yeah.
- [35:07]
Patrick Bet-David
When it comes to comments, she gave her wonderful speech yesterday written by Obama, but she gave her speech yesterday. Right. And she's saying. What she's saying is, is that. I mean, when I woke up this morning, I'm like, who would have yesterday, who are the happiest people? I ranked who the happiest people are that Kamala didn't win? I said, number one is probably Hillary Clinton, because, by the way, I agree with you. Yeah. I don't think she wants Kamala to be the first female. No, she's not a. She's not at Hillary's level.
- [35:37]
Tom Zawacki
No.
- [35:38]
Laura Trump
By the way, there will be a female president. It'll be a Republican.
- [35:40]
Patrick Bet-David
Yeah. And.
- [35:42]
Laura Trump
Yeah.
- [35:43]
Patrick Bet-David
So that's one. Okay. Two. I think the happiest is Joe Biden.
- [35:47]
Laura Trump
Absolutely.
- [35:47]
Patrick Bet-David
Oh, because Joe Biden didn't even stay for whatever, you know, is sticking around with her. He stayed two miles away from her, by the way.
- [35:54]
Laura Trump
And you may have voted for Donald Trump.
- [35:56]
Patrick Bet-David
May have voted for even Joe Biden. Can you pull up Joe Biden, the dress she wore when she voted. Jill Biden's dress when she.
- [36:06]
Tom Zawacki
Really wear red.
- [36:07]
Patrick Bet-David
Are you joke.
- [36:07]
Laura Trump
There she is. Look at that.
- [36:08]
Patrick Bet-David
She wore red when she voted.
- [36:10]
Tom Zawacki
That's on purpose.
- [36:11]
Patrick Bet-David
Of course it is.
- [36:13]
Tom Zawacki
Okay. Oh, my.
- [36:14]
Patrick Bet-David
So that's that she's bitter.
- [36:16]
Vincent
She's deeply bitter.
- [36:17]
Laura Trump
She may be more upset than Joe.
- [36:19]
Vincent
That's not an accusation. There are people that know her that say she is deeply bitter by what she regards as a coup.
- [36:24]
Patrick Bet-David
So you got first. Is that number two is. Number two is, you know, Biden. Three is maybe even Kamala. I don't even know if she wanted a job.
- [36:38]
Laura Trump
I agree with that. I think. I think she was terrified. I think she knew she was in over her head. She. Look, let's be honest. Kamala Harris really had no business being vice president. Joe Biden's the one who said, I chose her based on how she looked. Are you kidding me? What a dumb reason to choose anybody. And by the way, how insulting to women out there. This was our first vice president who did pretty much nothing. Did she do anything?
- [37:01]
Tom Zawacki
Nope.
- [37:02]
Elon Musk
Well, she left the border open. She just, you know.
- [37:04]
Laura Trump
Yeah. Yeah, she did a great job of opening that border wide open.
- [37:07]
Vincent
Well, first she had to find the border, which was a issue.
- [37:10]
Laura Trump
She finally went. Went on down there during a campaign. Right. But I agree with you. I think that she was really kind of relieved that she didn't win, because I don't think she knows what. What the hell to do. What is she going to do as president? That's terrifying. You were the leader of the free world. That is a very Big deal. She probably had, you know, was worried about being vice president and she just kind of hid in the background and did those weird NASA videos. But do you remember the ones with the kids.
- [37:36]
Vincent
Space, space, the vastness of space.
- [37:39]
Tom Zawacki
I have my space.
- [37:40]
Laura Trump
Yeah.
- [37:40]
Tom Zawacki
She was all over the place.
- [37:41]
Laura Trump
But I think then the fact that she did not win this, probably she's a little bit relieved. Yeah.
- [37:47]
Patrick Bet-David
And you know, you, you see, you see the market reacting to this, a part of it. They're like, well, you know, it's not fair. I mean, if you can go. Rob, play one of the clips with the view with what Sonny is saying. Okay. Not the other one. Play the one with what Sonny is saying. And this is very weird to the point that, you know, one of the cohorts had to interrupt. Rob, if you want to press play, go ahead. It's kind of weird what to say into the demographics because black women tried to save this country again. Last night, 92% of black women voted.
- [38:18]
Laura Trump
For the vice president, all dressed as a female.
- [38:21]
Patrick Bet-David
You have latinas in the 70 percentile voting for the vice president. What we did not have is white women who voted about 52%.
- [38:29]
Laura Trump
Right.
- [38:30]
Patrick Bet-David
For Donald Trump. Uneducated white women is my understanding. You have Latino men, Latino voting more for him. And you have. And black men was not the story. We're not the story here. Because they voted almost 80% for the vice president.
- [38:44]
Laura Trump
Right.
- [38:44]
Patrick Bet-David
So why do you think that uneducated white women voted against their reproductive health freedoms? And why do you think Latino men.
- [38:51]
Laura Trump
Latino voted in favor of someone that's.
- [38:54]
Patrick Bet-David
Going to deport, says he's going to deport the majority of his community?
- [38:57]
Laura Trump
I don't think women like being called uneducated white women. I think the economy matters, national security. But when you put people in these boxes, I think that's a takeaway from.
- [39:06]
Patrick Bet-David
We have, we have to look at.
- [39:08]
Vincent
The demographics so that you can blame identity.
- [39:13]
Patrick Bet-David
And by the, by the play now the morning joke, because it's like the complete opposite, but it's not the opposite. He's going after. Watch this one. This is just as frustrating. Go ahead. Say rev. Really quickly too. Democrats need to be mature and they need to be honest and they need to say, yes, there is, there's misogyny.
- [39:34]
Tom Zawacki
But it's not just misogyny from white.
- [39:36]
Patrick Bet-David
Men, it's misogyny from Hispanic men. Right. It's misogyny from black men. Things we've all been talking about who do not want a woman leading them might be race issues with Hispanics. They don't want a black woman as president.
- [39:52]
Laura Trump
United States.
- [39:53]
Tom Zawacki
You know, the Democratic Party, I've always.
- [39:56]
Patrick Bet-David
Found when you're sitting around talking, they.
- [39:57]
Tom Zawacki
Love to just sort of Balkanize everybody.
- [40:02]
Patrick Bet-David
Into these separate groups and say, oh, white people don't like women and black people, no, this is. It is time for the Democrats to say, okay. And you and I have talked about this before. A lot of Hispanic voters have problems with black candidates. Right.
- [40:21]
Tom Zawacki
A lot of other Hispanics don't like each other. And some of the race, major misogynist.
- [40:28]
Patrick Bet-David
Things I've heard going on.
- [40:30]
Tom Zawacki
There's get out the vote tour came from black men. I mean, misogynist things.
- [40:34]
Vincent
So you're absolutely right.
- [40:35]
Patrick Bet-David
It's not simplistic. And we've got to have real, honest conversations about real honest conversations. How do you react to that?
- [40:45]
Laura Trump
This is why they lost. This kind of crap is why they lost. Nobody wants this. This is ridiculous. You know what? You know why people voted for Donald Trump? He had a great track record for four years. He did the things he said he was going to do the first four years in office. Kamala Harris didn't lay out a single policy point that she could point to other than price gauging. It's price gouging. I don't know what they wrote in her teleprompter. These sort of tactics I don't think are working on people anymore. And by the way, for Sonny, I think it's something like less than 40% of the voter base in the United States has a college degree. So saying uneducated white women, I think all of this is gross. I think the American people want someone who's going to deliver for them. I think they want somebody who they know they can count on to give them a better economy, more money in their pocket, give us our energy independence again, actually close the border. Donald Trump built over 500 miles of border wall. This kind of stuff is disgusting. And I think people. I think this was an election where people are saying, please don't do the identity politics anymore because it's gross.
- [41:44]
Patrick Bet-David
It's not working. By the way, this is the data that was shown yesterday.
- [41:48]
Laura Trump
Yeah.
- [41:48]
Patrick Bet-David
From Donald Trump, 2020 to 2024 Black men.
- [41:52]
Laura Trump
Vinny.
- [41:52]
Patrick Bet-David
From 15 to 34, Black woman, 8 to 9, Latino men, 38 to 53 Latino woman, 36 to 48.
- [42:01]
Tom Zawacki
Can I ask you a question, Pat? What? Why? Okay, so the black women is the message. So hardcore anti Trump abortion. What is it that makes that group so low that they can't.
- [42:11]
Elon Musk
That is the anchor the base of the Democratic Party at this point.
- [42:15]
Patrick Bet-David
And that's.
- [42:15]
Tom Zawacki
And by the way, the Latinos, they're not voting for Trump. You know why? Because they don't want socialism.
- [42:20]
Patrick Bet-David
I hate.
- [42:20]
Tom Zawacki
Go to Venice, ask Venezuelan Americans or Cuban Americans why they're voting for Donald Trump. Because they don't want this place to look like their place.
- [42:27]
Elon Musk
But, you know, you never hear, I don't know. I don't know how often you guys watch the Daily show these days, but it's actually funny again and relevant again that Jon Stewart is there. And they have a. They have a woman on there, Desi Lydic. She's actually super talented. And she's, you know, humor kind of transcends just sort of speaking on mics. But she's like, so you're telling me that these people voted for Trump, but then also these people. But also these people. But also these people. So everybody voted for Trump. And what you never hear is, maybe Kamala maybe was just a horrible candidate. Maybe she was just really that bad. Maybe it wasn't misogyny. Maybe it wasn't gender.
- [43:05]
Laura Trump
Right.
- [43:05]
Elon Musk
Maybe it wasn't race. It was. Maybe she's a really bad candidate and people are using common sense and they're like, yeah, I'm good.
- [43:13]
Laura Trump
Yeah.
- [43:14]
Elon Musk
On Kamala.
- [43:14]
Laura Trump
That's right.
- [43:15]
Elon Musk
Thank you, everybody. Thanks for coming.
- [43:17]
Vincent
Or maybe it was the economy. Stupid.
- [43:20]
Elon Musk
All of it, maybe. And it's not so much a woman thing.
- [43:22]
Patrick Bet-David
Respectful to us.
- [43:23]
Elon Musk
Thank you.
- [43:24]
Laura Trump
I don't think it has anything to do with her being a woman.
- [43:26]
Elon Musk
It has nothing to do with her being a woman. It has everything to do with her being this particular woman. Because we were talking about Hillary earlier. She has a lot of negatives. One thing you can say about Hillary is that she isn't smart, qualified. She knows what she's doing. If you, I mean, forget about how you feel. If you just look at resumes. Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris. Come on, guys. It's not even fair. She had no chance.
- [43:50]
Tom Zawacki
But I want to ask you a question, though, Laura ask you, and you guys could jump it in. Do you think if post debate Trump destroys Biden, they don't do the switcheroo and all that stuff, and they stay with Biden. How closer would this election have been if they just went riding with Biden off of one debate? How close would it have been? Because this was ridiculous. Would it make any difference?
- [44:11]
Laura Trump
I don't think so. I think it would have been the same. I mean, they were already. That was such a disaster for him and the Thing is, it. It really exposed how much they lie because everybody before that was like, there's something wrong with Joe Biden. For years, we were all talking about it, and everyone was like, he's fine. He's running circles around the interns in the White House. Like, all that, that nonsense. I don't think it would have made a difference. I think people ultimately, when they get in a voting booth and they think about their life, it's the kitchen table issues. It's. How is this impacting my day to day? I may not love everything that Donald Trump tweets, but I sure as heck like the way my life felt when he was in the White House. I definitely felt like I could put more food on the table for my family. There was a better trajectory. You know, in this country we're on, I think it's over 75% of the country thinks we're on the wrong track. That is what makes a difference. So whether it was Joe Biden, who people obviously think is totally gone, I don't know who's running the country right now. He's still technically the president, by the way.
- [45:05]
Elon Musk
Yeah, we forget.
- [45:06]
Laura Trump
Or Kamala Harris. I. I don't think it would have made a difference. And one of the things they said up there, by the way, Sunny said that I think is. Is crazy. Or maybe it was one of the other ones on the View. The idea that somehow Latinos in this country don't want to vote for somebody who's deporting illegal immigrants, that has nothing to do with anything. If you are a legal citizen of America, I don't care who you are. You don't want people coming over our border illegally. We have 350 people on the terror watch list right now in America. 15,000 people who've committed sexual assault, 13,000 murderers right now in America that they've just let over the southern border. We don't want any of that in our communities. They want them out, too. So it's just like it's the idea that that's how they've tried to sell Donald Trump for all these years. People are realizing all of that is just fake and it's. Nobody cares about it.
- [45:54]
Patrick Bet-David
By the way, Tom, if you want to, like, if you think about COVID right. This is the one thing that we almost are not talking about anymore. It seems like Covid was 15 years ago.
- [46:04]
Elon Musk
Yeah, thank God.
- [46:05]
Patrick Bet-David
Honestly, if you think about it, it was only four years ago. And if you think about what they tried to do during COVID the censorship, kids not going to school, you know, non essential, essential. You know, all this restaurants being put out of business, family owned businesses that are gone. Your grandfather started this business. Now it's not there anymore.
- [46:25]
Laura Trump
People losing their jobs because they didn't get.
- [46:27]
Patrick Bet-David
People losing their jobs. Guys kicked out of the military because they don't want to take the vaccine. Guys leaving states, California, New York leaving the state because they're like, there's no way I can. And even with conservatives leaving New York, New York still flipped 13% towards Trump in the last four years. I just think I just yesterday I was on Cenk and Anna Kasparian's Young Turks and they're asking me a question about what do you think it is? It's just listen, 46 years old, I got four kids, we got a family and we watched the whole evolution of what happened. When you're younger, maybe you're, you know, you're thinking a different way. You're trying to reinvest into the company, you're trying to hire more people, you're trying to, you know, school to leave your kids alone. Like if you have certain decisions, the most basic common sense things that people care about seem to go purely conservative. And the left, the Obamas, the establishment tried to really bully during COVID I think everybody's like, listen, I haven't forgotten yet what you did and I don't want you to mess with me. Leave me alone. These other guys seem more sane. Rogan comes on this side, Musk comes on this side. Dana White is campaigning in ways when we were in Dana's room a year and a half ago in his office, he's like, you're going to see me running and helping this man, like I've never helped him out before. Watch what he did. He's on the stage with you guys just, you know, saying what Trump has done. Tom, your sanest economy. So Trump wins. Dow up God knows how much. Crypto up s and P up points 1.6 trillion wealth created. Do you think it's as simple as the economy?
- [48:04]
Vincent
Yes, I do. And I think what simply happened, the word is freedom. And I think the markets are feeling freedom because, and I get very emotional about this because I think these underlying tenets and platforms of our country are so important. And it's not about the money. What you're seeing is freedom. You're seeing markets saying we're not going to be regulated, constricted and legislated against. And you're seeing markets feeling that they're going to be free and they're going to be able to go conduct business and are going to be able to grow. And that's what markets want to do. And it is the economy. We complicated it. When I say we, the Democrats and the complicit media, they complicated it. They turned what was a simple choice to make a life better tomorrow than it is today and a vote into somehow there's something wrong with you and you're the sexist, you're the racist. There's something wrong with you that you want to vote for freedom, prosperity and something more tomorrow than you got today. And somehow that's bad. And I am really glad that there's another loser in all this. And that loser is in the media that has approval ratings and trust of American people that is now below Congress. We never talked about it, but Congress used to have the lowest approval rating of any institution in America. We pick on the president, we pick on things like that. But it's Congress that all of us didn't trust. And we actually were bipartisan understanding of the citizenry, hoping someday to just start over. How do we just erase this and start over? And you see it and now you see the media losing and they're losing their contracts because their business is down. Why is our business down? Because we don't trust you. We don't want to watch you. And we're watching other things. And so mainstream media is in the middle. It's not the cable and satellite conversion to online. It's a. It's a movement of the American citizen to a source of truth or balance that they can believe. And it just happens to coincide with a technological wave going from cable to over the top where we have the freedom to go anywhere and get it.
- [50:14]
Elon Musk
May I respond to that tomorrow? Number one. Vinnie, do me a favor, Give Tom a hug for me. I mean, I love you, Tom. I just. Out of nowhere, Tom starts crying.
- [50:21]
Laura Trump
I love that. That was beautiful.
- [50:23]
Tom Zawacki
Because he cares.
- [50:23]
Elon Musk
No, he's real. I want to address that because what's happening in the markets is a reflection on how the, the capital markets feel about Donald J. Trump. More of a capitalist than certainly what Kamala is doing over there. But it's another thing. It's also. It's not just Wall street, it's Main street. Because if you're in the market, only half of America is sort of in the market. Look, don't look now. You're probably richer than ever. Your 401k is higher than ever. Your house is worth more than ever. Your bitcoin account is more than ever. Things are Good. But if you're the working class, if you're the blue collar guy or gal, you're looking at the last four years and you're like, what? I thought this whole bidenomics, the middle out, top up, you know, whatever, top trickled. What happened here, guys? And I think the base of the Trump campaign is the working class and the blue collar workers. You know, we watched the movie the man you don't know. What was it called again? The man you don't.
- [51:20]
Tom Zawacki
The documentary.
- [51:21]
Elon Musk
Yes. And, you know, they started using a term that we've heard before, and I'll say it again. He's the blue collar billionaire.
- [51:28]
Laura Trump
Yep.
- [51:28]
Elon Musk
So I totally understand why the markets are reacting to this. But from your perspective, chair, co chair of the rnc, how will Trump now get not just Wall street, but Main street back to business and defeat inflation and defeat this agenda and get America back to work?
- [51:45]
Laura Trump
I want to answer that, but actually, just to piggyback on the freedom. Right before I came on the show, my friend who I've been friends with for like 20 years texted me. She lives in Pennsylvania. She said, I feel so optimistic today. If I could sum it up in one word, I think the Biden presidency gave me anxiety I didn't even know was attributed to that. And I actually think a lot of people probably feel that way. And the freedom aspect of it I don't think can be overstated. I think it's palpable. People are like, oh, my God, thank God. We are not going to lose our country. We are going to close our borders. We are going to be the leader of the free world and the superpower of the world again. And I think a lot of people felt like if this election had gone the other way, we wouldn't have had that. But the economy is important, and Donald Trump has been very clear about the first thing that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris did when they took the White House. The first executive order was shutting down the Keystone XL pipeline. Absolute disaster. Disaster for our economy. It obviously made us, instead of energy, independent. We're now dependent on foreign governments, foreign countries, Venezuela. Look at Russia. Russia was able to enrich itself because they now supplied all of Europe with their oil. It probably allowed Putin the money and the funding to invade Ukraine and cause this war. If you look at Iran, they were able to enrich themselves as well because they got the oil pump in there. And now they're funding Hamas and Hezbollah and all of the proxies there in the Middle east, causing that whole hornet's nest but whenever you allow us to use the liquid gold, as my father in law says, it's right here in America. And we're not just energy independent, he wants us to be energy dominant. Dominant, a net energy exporter. That's going to naturally bring down inflation. That's going to naturally ease all of the concerns that people have out there. You're going to see prices come down naturally or the wages are going to rise to actually meet inflation, which is not happening right now. And then I think bringing American companies back to America instead of overseas, having, you know, manufacturing here, encouraging people to actually hire American, buy American made in the USA on things, these are all ways that will make life a lot better, a lot easier and economically really bring us to a place that I think is going to be great for the American people.
- [54:03]
Elon Musk
Pbd, can I ask you to weigh in on the economy for a second, by the way, just to inject a little humor. Did you see the trending thing in one of your favorite documentaries of all time, pbd, it's called the Hangover. I don't know if you saw this. And there's that scene when in the car and there was like, we're back.
- [54:17]
Tom Zawacki
We'Re back, we're back.
- [54:19]
Elon Musk
Like right, the whole scene in the car. And there's a general feeling that America's back in America. The economy is going to come back to work, inflation's going to go down. From a businessman's perspective, why do you think people just feel so excited for America to be back?
- [54:33]
Patrick Bet-David
Regulation, low taxes. To be honest with you, the tax Trump cuts from 2017. I'll never forget when I had the meeting and I told everybody for every month, told all our employees, for every month you've been with the company, I'm giving you a hundred dollar bonus. And they're like, what are you talking about? I said, because this is how taxes works. If the corporate tax goes lower and it goes from 28 to 21, I say 7%. 7% on 10 million is $700,000. Hey, we can put that back into you and we can put it back into the company. No way. That's how business works. It allows us to reinvest. Oh, now I get it. So employees that were making, you know, 45, $50,000 in Addison, Texas were like, I never thought about it like this before. Right. So I think a part of this is also on the business owners to make that be known that here's how this works to reinvest back into the business, into the company. So that's that part? The other part. So a lot of people kind of sitting there and saying, IPO. What happened to IPOs the last four years? How many IPOs do we have the last four years? Rob, can you pull up IPO by year? 2024, 2023, 2022. How many IPOs have we had every year? How many IPOs have we had by year? If you look up IPOs by year, not SPACs, just IPOs. If you think about IPOs by year, see if we can see that right there. Okay. 2021 is when. Okay, that's Trump right there, right? 2020. Well, you got 2019. Okay, that's SPACs. When you're looking at 2021, that's a lot of SPACs. 181, 154, 188.
- [56:05]
Laura Trump
Right.
- [56:05]
Patrick Bet-David
We dropped with IPOs. We're not doing a lot of IPOs right now. Why? People are just thinking it's a bad time to go out there. What am I going to go out there? How much money am I going to raise? They're not like, hey, I'm willing to put back into the market. You're going to see the IPO market in 2026, late 2025, 2026, I believe Tom and I talk about this all the time. I think 2026 IPO market is going to go there. I think the wealth creation of the next four years is going to be here, God willing. Of course, it's on the individual, but business owners are seeing an opening that there's an opportunity now, low regulation, lower taxes, to reinvest into the marketplace. And certain negotiations that he's going to be doing is going to be different. It's very simple for me. When you're voting for your president, you're asking someone to go negotiate on your behalf. Do you want Kamala Harris to go negotiate on your behalf? Americans said no. Do you want Joe Biden to go negotiate on your behalf, or do you want Trump to go negotiate on your behalf? I think people are saying, I want Trump to go negotiate on my behalf on all the business dealings.
- [57:10]
Laura Trump
Well, that's right. And I always use this, too, when I was out on the campaign trail. You're hiring a person for a job. The people in Washington, D.C. work for us. And people forget that this isn't a personality contest. Although Donald Trump has a great personality. And I think everybody actually, if they got to know him, would really love him. But you're hiring someone to go do a job. Yes. You're hiring them to negotiate on your behalf. And I think that that is what people ultimately kind of came to in this whole election. They realize that it's bigger than, oh, I gotta go with the person. Hollywood tells me, like, Lady Gaga told me, like Beyonce. Cardi B. Are you kidding me? By the way, I think the American people are actually very insulted whenever you have these celebrities who come out on stage and it seems very phony. And like, just. It's. Again, the word is gross that I tend to use because it kind of.
- [57:57]
Tom Zawacki
Feels like the JLO not sell the JLo crying off the teleprompter not make you.
- [58:03]
Vincent
Please.
- [58:03]
Tom Zawacki
What?
- [58:04]
Vincent
You dated Diddy. That was your judgment then. And now you want us to trust your judgment to make one of the most important choices.
- [58:11]
Elon Musk
Not going to get your vote like that.
- [58:13]
Patrick Bet-David
When she said that. Cardi B. Can you. Can you pull up.
- [58:20]
Vincent
I'll tell you what's insulting about.
- [58:21]
Elon Musk
Talking about.
- [58:22]
Vincent
What's insulting about it is that the Dems think that the. I don't know which is more insulting. The Dems thinking that the American populace is dumb enough to follow celebrity, you know, you know, popularity waves, or that the Dems are as arrogant enough to force it.
- [58:40]
Patrick Bet-David
That's the one. Rob, this is Cardi B. Guys, she's pissed. Please don't upset her. Go to play this clip.
- [58:45]
Vincent
Rob, this is a rapist extortion.
- [58:49]
Patrick Bet-David
Go back. Go ahead. So listen, I'mma let y'all know this right now, okay? So you know, trumpets like, y'all won.
- [58:58]
Laura Trump
I know you're happy. Whatever.
- [58:59]
Patrick Bet-David
The. Ain't nobody acting like bitter losers. However, y'all need to leave me the alone because I got one more cigarette in me before I start lighting your asses up.
- [59:09]
Laura Trump
All right?
- [59:09]
Patrick Bet-David
And that's word to the United States of America.
- [59:12]
Laura Trump
Yeah. Yeah.
- [59:13]
Tom Zawacki
She's at Target.
- [59:14]
Patrick Bet-David
She's at Target.
- [59:15]
Tom Zawacki
Damn, it must be rough under Biden that you're at freaking Target. Cardi B. By the way, this is. Is that the Cardi B. That admittingly used to drug men and. And rob them while she was a stripper? Is that the same girl, by the way, a movie?
- [59:30]
Patrick Bet-David
And you know who played her?
- [59:31]
Tom Zawacki
Who?
- [59:32]
Patrick Bet-David
Jlo.
- [59:34]
Tom Zawacki
Wow.
- [59:34]
Laura Trump
Played. Cardi.
- [59:38]
Patrick Bet-David
B Was in a movie and the whole story was about weird. The story about that one girl. She used to. She says, yeah, we used to do this as well back in the days.
- [59:45]
Tom Zawacki
Weird.
- [59:45]
Laura Trump
Yeah.
- [59:45]
Tom Zawacki
She then everything that she says is credible.
- [59:48]
Elon Musk
Listen, they could have brought out the.
- [59:50]
Tom Zawacki
Hell out of here.
- [59:51]
Elon Musk
Cardi B. Barbara str. They could have brought out Liza Minnelli from the dead. Whoever it is.
- [59:56]
Laura Trump
I wish Harrison Ford wouldn't have ruined all the Indiana Jones movies.
- [60:00]
Elon Musk
Is anyone shocked at Hollywood that the music industry, that any of the NBA, any of these institutions are almost sort of mandated, like, all right, get out there, do your thing. Well, it doesn't work.
- [60:11]
Laura Trump
It's. And it is, it's insulting. It doesn't work. And, and I do think they think people are dumb enough. You just throw a celebrity out there and they're gonna be like, oh, that's how I should vote. Look, Taylor Swift, you kidding me? She's. She got right on board, too. Didn't work out.
- [60:24]
Patrick Bet-David
Do you have. Jimmy Kimmel's child is Catholic.
- [60:27]
Vincent
We actually have statistically negative impact.
- [60:31]
Tom Zawacki
Wait, do we have tissues? Guys, this is emotional.
- [60:33]
Patrick Bet-David
Go ahead, Rob.
- [60:34]
Tom Zawacki
Donald Trump broke him.
- [60:35]
Elon Musk
Wow, Kimmel.
- [60:35]
Tom Zawacki
Here we go. Let's be honest. It was a terrible night last night.
- [60:39]
Laura Trump
It was a terrible night for women, for children, for the hundreds of thousands.
- [60:43]
Tom Zawacki
Of hard working immigrants who make this.
- [60:45]
Laura Trump
Country go, oh, my gosh, climate soft.
- [60:52]
Patrick Bet-David
For science, for journalism, for justice, for free speech. It was a terrible night for poor.
- [60:59]
Laura Trump
People, for the middle class, for seniors who rely on Social Security, for our allies in Ukraine.
- [61:05]
Tom Zawacki
Oh, God.
- [61:06]
Laura Trump
For NATO.
- [61:07]
Tom Zawacki
Laura, don't cry, please.
- [61:09]
Laura Trump
I'm in a hard time.
- [61:10]
Patrick Bet-David
Hold it back.
- [61:11]
Tom Zawacki
Give me the tissue. Stop.
- [61:12]
Laura Trump
And decency.
- [61:14]
Tom Zawacki
And it was a terrible night for.
- [61:15]
Laura Trump
Everyone who voted against him.
- [61:17]
Patrick Bet-David
And guess what?
- [61:17]
Tom Zawacki
It was a bad night for everyone.
- [61:18]
Laura Trump
Who voted for him too.
- [61:19]
Patrick Bet-David
You just don't realize it yet.
- [61:21]
Tom Zawacki
Okay, let's be honest.
- [61:22]
Laura Trump
These people are.
- [61:22]
Vincent
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
- [61:23]
Elon Musk
Let's.
- [61:23]
Vincent
Let's trap that bad night. You just don't know it yet. Let's look at that in a year. Let's look at that in two years. Let's see what's going to hell. Let's look at that. And two quarters after inauguration.
- [61:32]
Patrick Bet-David
This is, this is what I want to know. This is what I want to know. There are certain moments like I'm wondering if this was a moment, the whole Barry Goldwater 64, that all of a sudden, from 64% of African Americans voting Democrat to 92%. And the Democrats owned the African American vote for 60 years till today. Right? Well, 20, 24 be one of those years where New York's going to be like, listen, man, this shit is not working. Illinois also flipped, I think Illinois flipped, what, five points or so, Four and a half points. Some number like that. I know New York was.
- [62:07]
Vincent
We have all those numbers.
- [62:07]
Patrick Bet-David
Can you show those numbers, Tom?
- [62:09]
Vincent
We have all of them. Show to us Donald Trump is demonstrating already in the election results what a uniter is. Take a look at this. Is the company is a country getting closer or farther apart. So Illinois, Joe Biden. Look at that. One million. Just a touch. Over a million votes in 2020. 2024. Barely 400,000. Look at that difference. The people are getting closer together. You got the next one, Rob. We got the blue states here.
- [62:39]
Laura Trump
New York.
- [62:39]
Vincent
We were just talking about New York, you know, 2 million, 2 million now.
- [62:44]
Tom Zawacki
900,000.
- [62:45]
Vincent
900,000. And then we got California, my favorite. Oh, you don't need, look at this.5 million with the turnout year of 2020.
- [62:53]
Laura Trump
And whether it was people that are amazing.
- [62:55]
Vincent
And by the way, I, I don't know whether it was people. It's P or P that turned out. Either people turned out or pallets of ballots mysteriously appeared. It's one or the other, but we'll leave it alone. Five million in 2020. And look at this year. 1.7. That's it. And I think we also have Virginia. Look at Virginia, the stronghold, Virginia. Look, it was 500,000 last night, under a quarter million.
- [63:19]
Laura Trump
New Jersey was very close, too.
- [63:21]
Tom Zawacki
Jersey was.
- [63:23]
Vincent
New Jersey was actually a bit of a sweat late. And then look at the pollsters. Florida, Florida. Florida, Florida. Maybe she's got a chance.
- [63:31]
Laura Trump
Oh, my God. Texas, Iowa.
- [63:34]
Vincent
13 point beatdown.
- [63:35]
Patrick Bet-David
Okay, so let me, let me, let me ask this. When you see something like this, you have to always respect your opponent and, and not be too, what do you call it? Like, oh, we got it. Just, it's done, it's, it's ours.
- [63:48]
Elon Musk
Yeah.
- [63:49]
Patrick Bet-David
They're not going to sit around and do nothing. I'm willing to bet they had an emergency meeting yesterday, they have an emergency meeting today on what they're going to do and what they're anticipating the Trump administration to do when they get in. So a part of what I was processing a couple of weeks ago when we were talking, I said, as of November 4th, Trump is enemy to state number one. I think November 6th, in their mind, Trump's a, there's only got one term. So they're going to try to find a way to hurt others more than Trump. My opinion, because Trump's not going to run again, so that bogeyman is going to go away very quickly. My opinion, I think they're going to target to find a way to divide, you guys. I think they're going to try to find a way to put a wedge between Trump and J.D. i think they're going to try to find a way to go After Elon, I think they're going to try to find a way to do a whole different thing. And all those games that they're going to play, I don't know if a pandemic is going to work. I don't know if it's going to be all the Eugene Carroll. I don't think that's going to work. I don't think any of those. I don't think Mar a lago's worth $18 million. I don't think those things are going to work. That stuff is done. What are you guys sitting there wondering, you know, hey, if they do this, we're going to do this. If they do that, we're going to do this. Kind of like a football coach. If they do this, we're ready for this. If they do that, we're going to do this part. Are you guys sitting around thinking about all the possibilities and if it happens, we're ready for it, or is that just starting now?
- [65:22]
Laura Trump
Yeah, I mean, honestly, I've. I just needed a breath yesterday, truly. So we haven't really thought of that. And it's funny because people were asking me, so many people in the past couple of weeks, they're like, what are you doing for Thanksgiving? I said, I don't know what I'm doing on November 6th. I'm not even kidding. I actually, yesterday morning I woke up and I was just like, oh my God, it's November 6th. Like, I had thoughts and just focused so solely on November 5th for so long. So I haven't thought about that. But you're right, look, they box himself in to a really bad position for their party. And I think they probably did have an emergency meeting. And yes, they're always gonna use some nefarious tactics to try and divide people and go after people. My God, no one more so than Donald Trump himself. Look at what they've done to this man, our family. They've subpoenaed my husband, I don't even know, 111 times or something. But, you know, they as a party have to start reflecting on what's not working. And the idea that you can run a campaign on fear mongering online to people, the things that Jimmy Kimmel, by the way, was crying about. Donald Trump was in the White House for four years. That's what I don't understand with people. And they say he's going to block people up. He's a threat to democracy. Dictator on day one. Excuse me. He was there for four years. He never did any of that stuff. And so I think they're gonna have a real problem when he does go in there. People start feeling better about their lives. Success is actually coming back to America. And he says, success will unify us. I believe that's going to happen. They, as a party need to do some deep reflecting. They have moved so far left and have gone so off the deep end on so many of these issues that the average person in this country really cannot relate to it. And if they want to win elections in the future, they're going to have to figure out how to come back a little bit more to the middle.
- [67:07]
Patrick Bet-David
Okay, so then I agree. I fully agree. And I don't know if they're gonna do that or not. I do know I've never seen Obama this miserable, this unhappy, and it's not even anxious. He looked like he was worried that the world is gonna find us something weird. By the way, today I got a very weird manect from a guy says, hey, I just wanna tell you what I think is gonna be happening. I said, what's that? I don't know if it's true or not. Okay. He says, I think there's going to be a lot of people taking their lives. I say what? He said, I think there's going to be a lot of people that are in there the last four years that they know they're going to be exposed and you're going to see a few suicides. I said, what are you talking about, by the way? That thought has never crossed my mind until he sent me this manic this morning and I'm responding to it.
- [67:54]
Laura Trump
That's awful.
- [67:54]
Patrick Bet-David
And I said, where are you going with this? So he's saying, look, if. If the truth comes out of what they did and who was involved the last four years, that becomes public. How do you face your wife, by the way? This is kind of like what people did in the stock market a day after 9, 11, how many people were jumping off? You saw that. They're like, oh, my God, what was that margin called? The movie where some of these guys were selling short and they're like, oh, how many of these guys that were relying on margins and all this stuff, and all of them, boom, they lose everything. You go from being worth 600 million, you owe 300 million, boom, you're jumping. That's money. You lost everything right here. If any of these guys, the look they gave when I watched some of their faces, it was a look of somebody that's worried about something being exposed to the world and their legacy is Being affected and their kids, family, everybody who ever supported them. No one you did something dark that, that part, I think they're still going to sit there and not give that up. So that's what that guy was talking about. But for me, team wise, you know, I talked to a lot of people. A lot of people reach out to me. Certain people, hey, I think this is the guy that's going to be the chief of staff. This is the guy that's going to be doing this. That guy's going to be doing this. Here's this guy's going to be doing this. Here's that guy's doing this. You know, during this season of President elect, you got 75 days, whatever the amount of days it is, right? How many interviews, people you're talking to, people you're sitting down with, do we bring this guy? Do we bring that guy? How strategic are you guys being right now in choosing who to bring inside to help you with these jobs and the people that are in the inside? Is it all family? Is it some that are not family, that are just trusted advisors? Is it some from free market? Is it some from politics? How are you guys filtering those people out today? Different than 2016 and 20, you know.
- [69:55]
Laura Trump
Obviously 2016, I mean, everything is different. We, there was so much to be learned by all of us, but certainly by my father in law, you know, he himself admitted when he went in the White House the first time, he really didn't know. You know, no one expected him to win. All the polls said this was impossible. And having never been in politics before, he had no transition team set up, nothing put in place. And honestly, our 2016 campaign was so small compared to what traditional presidential campaigns look like, that normally what you do is you take your campaign staff and you say, okay, you guys can apply. There's like 5,000 positions that need to be filled. You guys apply for these jobs, we want to plug you in in good spots. And you know those people because you've worked with them to a certain extent. We couldn't do that in 2016, so he had to outsource and he had to listen to other people. And he'll be the first to admit that's one of the mistakes he made. And he wishes it had been different. He understands this so much more now in 2024, even maybe more so than in 2020, which is another reason that I love that he is President Elect right now. And it is the most important thing to make sure you have great people in these positions. But to have people Like Elon Musk, like, you know, Vivek Ramaswamy, potentially Tulsi Gabbard. These are people who really get it and who are so aligned. RFK Jr. These are going to be such powerful movers in this country and do such historic things, I believe, during this administration. But every position does matter. And I think we've all learned enough to know how to judge people. And you're never going to get it 100%. There will always be, you know, kind of bad people out there with bad intentions. But I think we've. We've learned a lot, and Donald Trump certainly has learned a lot, and that's how strategic this process is going to be.
- [71:45]
Patrick Bet-David
Is there a filtering process for it? Because for me, you know how when you're looking for a wife and, you know, certain data, you look at lowest percentage of marriage, working out dating sites, then the next one at a bar, and then the next one is, you know, whatever at a church, and the next one referred to you by a co worker, then the next one is from a friends and family. Then. So percentage.
- [72:10]
Laura Trump
This is how you look for a wife?
- [72:11]
Patrick Bet-David
No, but this is the percentage of, you know, more about who you know. If. Let's just say Vinnie is looking for a girl. You introduce somebody to Vinnie, you may say, this is Mary. I've known her for 19 years. She's this, this. That. There's credibility there with the introduction being made versus here we go. I don't know who this guy is. Is there a filtering process of people that you trust to say, this guy, you can vouch for that guy? Because there was rumors saying the fact that J.D. vance was someone that Don Jr. Was very much supportive of. And, you know, Peter Thiel was a big fan of JD A lot of us didn't know who JD Was. We had heard of JD but because not necessarily positive things, it was more negative things that, you know, was shown by the media in the past. And then all of a sudden, everybody sees jd. JD Vance, vp. Yeah. Huh. So not Tulsi. No. Not Vivek. No. Not. No. Huh. Who is this guy? And you're like, who is this guy? Right.
- [73:07]
Laura Trump
Now you get it.
- [73:08]
Patrick Bet-David
Now you get it. And you're like, this guy's a stud and a half. Right? Good for him. So now he moves up to a top draft pick for 20, 28 being president. Great choice. Credit to the president for deciding. He's got to pick at the end of the day, but people are bringing names to him. Who. Who are you choosing as people to give Feedback with credibility on who, who they should pick on the team.
- [73:31]
Laura Trump
Well, there's a transition team and there's a whole process they go through. Howard Lutnick and who my husband's involved, don's involved, Linda McMahon along with Howard, I think, are the two kind of heads of that. And there's a process. And I think, you know, the people like Linda McMahon, by the way, who's been around forever and she's been part of the team. She was in the administration in 26 or throughout the first term in office. These are trusted people and they know what needs to be done and they have a great vetting process. I'm not personally part of the transition team directly, but I know that, again, all of these people have learned so much. We know what we need to do. We know what to look for. And I think most importantly, we know what we don't want in there, and those people are going to keep out.
- [74:15]
Patrick Bet-David
So when, when, when we think about couple power, you know, in politics, a lot of times couple power is, wow, John F. Kennedy and his wife Jackie. She's so beautiful. She dresses so well. Awesome, you know. Oh, my God. Couple power. Ronald Reagan and Nancy, true couple power. I had Ken Khachikan here was a, who's a chief speech writer for Reagan and he worked under Nixon. You know, he said Nancy was feared by everybody. She was tough behind closed doors and she would do the firing for everybody because Ronald didn't like to fire people. It was Nancy firing.
- [74:59]
Laura Trump
Get it, girl?
- [74:59]
Patrick Bet-David
And yeah, that's right. So that's Nancy. So that's a couple pout, right? Bill and Hillary Clinton, love them or hate him. That's a couple power, right? If you think about it, you know, you and Eric are a couple power now, right? The two of you? And I asked Eric this the other day, and I know Eric had alluded to it before in the past as well. It's kind of interesting that, you know, you guys are both now you're getting your experience in this the last 12 months, and he's getting his experience with everything that's happened with 111. What was it? 111. 12 subpoenas. Subpoenas. You know, no one in the history. Now you guys are experiencing that part, which means your skin is getting thicker.
- [75:42]
Laura Trump
And I don't think it get much. Gets much thicker than all of us in the Trump family at this point.
- [75:46]
Patrick Bet-David
What I'm saying outside of Trump. I'm saying outside of Trump. So is there any desires later on for you guys to want to possibly consider running. And by the way, I know it's like, oh, it's too early to tell Pat, give us a day. We just. I get that. But I asked this for Merrick and he's talking. Talked about this.
- [76:01]
Laura Trump
Yeah.
- [76:01]
Patrick Bet-David
Is there any that if there was the opportunity that come up, you guys would consider it?
- [76:05]
Laura Trump
I would be crazy if I said no. Of course. Look, I think the interesting ride for all of us in this is we've actually gotten to go out there and experience the entire country and this. And by the way, even three days ago, I was doing interviews and people were saying, what do you feel out there? What's going on? And I said, this is. It feels like 2016 to me, but on steroids, which is what I said about this election. When you go out and you're among the country and you're among the people of the country and you actually interact with people, not only do you get a sense of things going on, but you actually get to know people and hear how their life has been impacted either negatively, like what's going on right now, or positively, like I heard from so many people when my father in law was president. And I think it's really powerful to know that you can make a difference in people's lives. And it's been such an honor to be a part of, like a small part of all of this. For me, I never in my wildest dreams would have first of all, expected the last name Trump, let alone all of this. And so, yeah, I mean, I am, I am open. I think Eric is open to whatever the future holds.
- [77:05]
Patrick Bet-David
Yeah. When you think couple power, I'm, I'm a. I love competition. I just, to me, it's like anything. That's when I think couple power on the right. Think couple power. Think couple power. Don't think individual. There's a lot of power and couple power. A lot of power and couple power. Okay. If you think couple power. I don't know if I have anybody ahead of you guys.
- [77:37]
Laura Trump
Wow.
- [77:37]
Patrick Bet-David
Yeah.
- [77:38]
Laura Trump
That's very nice.
- [77:38]
Tom Zawacki
Who else would it be?
- [77:39]
Patrick Bet-David
No, no, because by the way, a big part of me saying that is because of you. Oh, well, Eric is formidable. But you and Eric together, dude, you're talking about managing the 500 lawyers in seven states and understanding these games that are going to be played again. Because if you're going into this world and you don't know the games.
- [77:59]
Tom Zawacki
No.
- [77:59]
Patrick Bet-David
What do you. So, so that part of it. Very interesting.
- [78:03]
Laura Trump
Yeah.
- [78:03]
Patrick Bet-David
Just right here, while we're sitting here together, I'm just thinking here saying. I'd say I. I can't think of. Think about who was on the stage. I mean, obviously, listen, I don't want to take anything away from Chris Christie and, you know, family.
- [78:13]
Tom Zawacki
No, no, no, no, no.
- [78:14]
Patrick Bet-David
I don't want to do that, but I don't go that far. But if you really think about it, this is so. So then that to me means. And I'll put this. And we can go to the next topic. That to me means is what is the level of protection? Because remember. Remember what the fear. What the family was the Kennedy family. And I'm using that case study because you can't use the Bush family as much. I think the only case study that we can go to. Truly. Right. I think it's only Kennedy family.
- [78:47]
Vincent
True. We seem to invent roles for our first lady to create relevance like we did. Now, there was legitimacy in W's wife because education, she was a career teacher. She cared deeply about it. But to care about something and have a background in it, it's much different from someone who has stepped into the arena, put on the gloves, and actually accomplish big things in the bloody reality of the fights of this world. And I think you have done that, even reluctantly at first, we hear.
- [79:16]
Patrick Bet-David
But here. But let me tell you where I'm going with this. Let me tell you where I'm going with this. We build an insurance company from 66 agents to 60,000 agents. We've licensed 60. We sold the company two years ago, and it was a great success. But I tell you when the breaking point was. When the company took off is when. Let's just say I'm working with Vinnie, and Vinnie's by himself, but I'm working with Eric. And then through Eric, I meet you. And let's say Vinnie, for this case, is more capable than Eric individually, but he's not with you guys together. The level of outgrowing Vinnie individually is not 2 to 1. It was 5 to 1. Wow.
- [79:55]
Laura Trump
Wow.
- [79:55]
Patrick Bet-David
So. And then we said, guys, our today, top 50 earners in a company, in the company, 45 out of top 50 earners, husband and wife build a business together. Whoa, 45 out of 50 do the business together. Okay? So to me, I think when that happens, the place where I was going was the protection of the entire family because you guys are now becoming a. I just looked at your age. I had your late 30s. I saw you. We're both Libras. You're October. Yeah, I'm October 18th.
- [80:24]
Laura Trump
Okay. And happy belated.
- [80:26]
Patrick Bet-David
And by the Way. That guy, Steel guy, you just showed, he's October 19th. I don't. I can't believe he's a Libra. I'm very disappointed. Yeah, he's a Libra.
- [80:31]
Laura Trump
So you like a little more balance, but that's okay.
- [80:33]
Patrick Bet-David
Yeah, but, but the point being, if you guys are all young, that's 30 years of threat.
- [80:41]
Tom Zawacki
Good.
- [80:42]
Patrick Bet-David
That's not good news for them.
- [80:43]
Tom Zawacki
Good.
- [80:43]
Patrick Bet-David
So to me, if I'm thinking Dark Enemy, what they're thinking, I'm thinking Trump to them is like no longer their number one priority. And I'm not saying it in a disrespectful way. I'm saying it from the standpoint of there's got to be somebody behind closed doors that's sitting there saying, hey, guys, Don, you can't go do this anymore by yourself. These two got to go with you. Eric. Boom. Hey, what's the granddaughter, Ava, what's her name that. She's on stage. She's a rock star. Oh, my God, she's a rock star.
- [81:16]
Laura Trump
We're so proud of her.
- [81:17]
Patrick Bet-David
She's ridiculous, right? Baron, the amount of articles talking about Barron is the reason why Trump got elected. Because of.
- [81:24]
Laura Trump
Oh, is that what they're saying?
- [81:27]
Patrick Bet-David
And all the podcasts and all.
- [81:28]
Laura Trump
I agree with that, by the way. That made a difference. You guys here made a difference. It makes a difference.
- [81:32]
Patrick Bet-David
What would you say about Baron? What's. What's. We. Listen, I've hung out with a few of you. Barron's been very unique of a guy to be like, I'm sitting there for an hour and a half. I'm like, this guy's so entertaining. Talking crap, you know, telling jokes, telling stories. Bunch of 30, 40, 50 year olds are sitting there listening to him. He controlled the table for like an hour and a half. How is Baron?
- [81:55]
Laura Trump
He's so cool. That's. That's like the one word I'll use for Baron. He's very cool. He's like the sleeper a little bit. You know, he's kind of stayed out of the spotlight, probably intentionally.
- [82:05]
Patrick Bet-David
It's very hard to do so when you're 6:10, by the way.
- [82:07]
Laura Trump
It's a little hard to do.
- [82:07]
Tom Zawacki
Yeah, you kind of stick out.
- [82:09]
Laura Trump
It's funny, when I saw him on stage, I'm used to my husband and my father in law, like, being the tallest people. And then I saw like a clip of us all walking on stage the other night. I was like, God, Baron makes us all look so little. Which is okay with me because I'm 511 I don't mind taking a little bit off. Yeah, he's, he's really smart. He's very cool, very entertaining. He's his father's son, like, there's no doubt about it. And he's going to do really incredible things. I think you've already seen so far. He's, he's really come in and there have been many times I've been traveling over the course of the campaign with my father in law in the car with him, going places. And Barron will call and he'll, he'll say, dad, I have an idea as to how you can get more votes. And it'll be, you know, you need to go meet, you know, go to this baseball stadium or do this, whatever. He's always throwing ideas out there. And so, yeah, we got to give Baron some, some serious credit. But by the way, just to go back to something you were saying about, I guess what somebody wrote into you, the idea that there could be a lot exposed. I fully agree with that.
- [83:06]
Elon Musk
Yes.
- [83:07]
Laura Trump
I think they're, you know, if you have a completely dark room and there's an absence of light, even if you put a little pinprick in and you get a little bit of light in, soon you start to see a lot more. I think people are starting to see a lot more. I wonder why Letitia James felt like she had to come out yesterday and say a little something.
- [83:23]
Patrick Bet-David
That's right.
- [83:24]
Laura Trump
I think a lot of these people know. They know what they did was wrong. They know that there was some sort of illegal collusion. They know that if it is all exposed, they are going to look horrible. And I hope we learn all of it. Because what they have done to my father in law, what they've done to our family is egregious. It should never happen in the United States of America. The only rationale I have honestly at so many times is that God was such a part of this election and had my father in law's back. Whether it's the Butler, Pennsylvania rally where he almost got killed, whether it's all of these court cases and, you know, 34 felony counts. Are you kidding me? All of this stuff. Any other person would have just been defeated day one. Accept him. And I give him so much credit for him and I have so much respect for him.
- [84:11]
Patrick Bet-David
Right, Rob? I agree. Rob, can you pull up that picture? Rob, the picture of Baron 2016 versus 2020.
- [84:18]
Laura Trump
I know what a difference.
- [84:19]
Patrick Bet-David
That's the best picture. People.
- [84:21]
Laura Trump
Makes me feel really old.
- [84:22]
Patrick Bet-David
It was. You got to see this because they're sharing this. If you can pull this up, Rob. So it's a picture of him in 26. Go to the first one on the left. Look at him.
- [84:29]
Laura Trump
Look how cute.
- [84:31]
Patrick Bet-David
And then look at him now.
- [84:33]
Laura Trump
I know, but do you see? I'm used to my father in law being pretty much taller than everybody.
- [84:38]
Patrick Bet-David
How tall is he, by the way? Who is he, six, eight? Is he six nine?
- [84:42]
Laura Trump
I think he's six seven.
- [84:43]
Patrick Bet-David
Okay.
- [84:44]
Laura Trump
Yeah. Because Eric is six five and he's.
- [84:46]
Patrick Bet-David
Eric is tall.
- [84:47]
Laura Trump
Yeah.
- [84:47]
Elon Musk
Don't discount one thing about Baron Trump. I mean, you guys all kind of were novices. You came to this, you know, 2016, you guys were in real estate, you.
- [84:56]
Laura Trump
Guys were in other businesses watching the whole time.
- [84:58]
Elon Musk
Trump was raised, raised in the White House.
- [85:01]
Laura Trump
Yeah.
- [85:02]
Elon Musk
He's the only Trump kid, child that literally grew up in the White House.
- [85:06]
Laura Trump
That's right.
- [85:07]
Elon Musk
So his perspective is vastly different from probably everybody else's.
- [85:11]
Laura Trump
That's true.
- [85:11]
Tom Zawacki
And Pat, just real quick, Laura, you guys made a point. I just looked it up on Drudge Report. The DOJ is moving to wind down Trump criminal cases before he takes office. The steps complies with longstanding Justice Department policy that a sitting president can be prosecuted. Two people familiar with the matter told NBC. That's the story right there. And you're right. And I, and there's so many, I mean, in all different avenues. Tular, it's not only just, you know, the corruption from, you know, Crossfire, the hurricane, you know, Covid, everything that they did, he's going. And I, we hope, because that's what he says, I want him to slowly. And I was on Peers yesterday and they were like, well, what can you do to bring peace? And I go, peace is fine. I want to bring people together. But we want accountability for every single person that for the last eight years, Fauci, everybody that was trying to destroy him illegally. And we got to the point with lawfare, with everything right now, we want, me personally, I think our viewers and Americans want accountability to hold these people's feet to the fire. And even when Elon was talking about why all these billionaires were backing Kamala because they know if Trump is in, he's exposing all of them for everything. And that's what we want.
- [86:20]
Laura Trump
Yeah. And by the way, you know, you go back to 2016 and the Russia collusion hoax, which was, I mean, I can't tell you how the first time any of us heard any of this, we were like, Russia, we couldn't have even colluded with Iowa Russia. And, but but you know who did collude with Russia was the Hillary Clinton campaign and the dnc. Okay. And you know what they, you know what their punishment was? $83,000.
- [86:43]
Tom Zawacki
That's it.
- [86:44]
Laura Trump
It's absolutely ridiculous. There were so many people, good people, who really believed in Donald Trump and what he was doing in 2016. 16. These are campaign staffers who had their lives ruined because of a lie, because of bad information and a purposeful amplifying of bad information. And it is, it's, it's so gross what these people did. Someone deserves to be held accountable. The Russia lie is still a thing. They're still constantly, we're trying to bring that up. That stuff should not be happening. Let's just start choosing people based on policies and what they're going to do for the country and not peddling these lies and ruining people's lives. It's awful. These people, how much money they had to pay in legal fees. They can't afford those things. It's been horrific.
- [87:24]
Vincent
Well, the air cover is over. Yeah, the air cover is over because this is why Leticia James is saying things. This is why Jack Smith staff members were concerned about malicious prosecution if suits coming the other way if Trump was elected. Oh, damn. That just happened, huh?
- [87:42]
Patrick Bet-David
Yeah.
- [87:42]
Vincent
So that's what's going on here. And I look at people like Lina Khan, you know, the chairman of the ftc, an absolute anti business, anti capitalist, and she has a seven year term. And now, you know, Trump needs to use, in my humble opinion, his effort and might of the office to remove her. Because there are, there's not just Letitia James, it's not just Jack Smith. There are people that are heading three letter agencies, such as Jessica Rosenworsel of the FCC that just allowed George Soros to buy 200 radio stations on an accelerated decision. How do we unwind that? But there are people that are like chairman and you know, they have those odd tenures. Sometimes you get appointed for five years, sometimes you point it for seven. Is it says, is the president, does he have, in addition to having the filter right now during transition, much different than before to keep the suits and all the K Street guys from coming up and pushing their angles? What about the ones that are in place, like Lina Khan of FTC that's got a seven year term? Is there some muscle going to be put behind that to remove the bad apples that have been appointed?
- [88:54]
Laura Trump
It is, I think probably going to be his favorite thing to do. You know, if you go back and listen to him, James Comey he says, I should have fired that guy day one. I knew he was a bad guy. I knew that he shouldn't have been there. But I listened to the people around me in the White House. A lot of these people, these suits, you know, these swamp creatures from D.C. i listened to them. They said, sir, you can't do that. He's, believe me, that will be his pleasure to get rid of these kind of people, because he saw how badly it hurt, not just him, but the entire country whenever he was in office and post him being in office. Those are the people who are really ruining our country. And bad apple is a very nice way to describe them. There's a lot of better words you.
- [89:37]
Vincent
Could probably, if we thought the S and P popped yesterday after the election. Wait till you see what it does when they see Lina Khan walking across the parking lot with a cardboard box.
- [89:47]
Elon Musk
Or Gary Gensler, because there's a lot of people in the crypto community. They're super excited to see him.
- [89:52]
Patrick Bet-David
But by the way, that's. That's what I'm saying about the fact that this guy send me this manect message.
- [89:58]
Elon Musk
Yeah.
- [89:58]
Patrick Bet-David
It's a little weird to say it, but I believe him.
- [90:02]
Tom Zawacki
I do, too.
- [90:02]
Patrick Bet-David
I believe him.
- [90:04]
Tom Zawacki
That's if.
- [90:05]
Patrick Bet-David
If Trump. Because there's a part that. Remember when people were like, well, Bobby Kennedy is going to take voters away from Trump or Biden. That was just six, eight months ago. Six months ago. Bobby Kennedy is going to take voters away. Who's he going to take more voters? Well, I think he's going to take more voters away from this or that and go. I think he's going to play very important role. Do you think he has a chance of becoming a president? Why do you think so many people want Bobby Kennedy? Because they want to get and find out what the hell happened with Fauci, nih, cdc, all that stuff. Right. He's in there. Oh, they can't stand this guy. Yes, they hate Bobby. The establishment cannot stand anything about Bobby whatsoever. And you're going to give him a little bit of power to go and say, I'm sorry. Let me see. Oh, my God. Did you see Bobby's way? Right? This was going on. Then some of the other guys that are going to come in, I don't know. I think the part I'm excited about where, you know, law and order, we're talking law and order and justice and all this stuff, you know, Guy says PBD called 2024 the year of investigations. We call that December of 2023. As a 2024 is going to be the year of investigations. He said, I think 2025 is going to be the year of justice. Right. He called 20. I like that, the year of justice. But I think if it does happen, it'll give a lot of people hope that there is such a thing as accountability.
- [91:28]
Tom Zawacki
Oh please.
- [91:28]
Patrick Bet-David
If it does, okay. We still don't know the side effects of what these 7 year old kids went through in 2020 when they couldn't go to school for a year. We still are not going to see that for 10 years.
- [91:38]
Laura Trump
Right?
- [91:39]
Patrick Bet-David
20 years. We're not going to see that. Like imagine the most traumatic thing you went through. I'm in Iran, the bombing war. You see that later on, the anxiety, the fear, the panic, right? Oh my God, what is this all about? Right? You don't know what's going to happen with some of these guys. Now you need some hardship to be tougher and have a thicker skin. But I would love to see accountability. Not in a using the DOJ to go after people. Actual proof. What did you do? Actual proof. Where Mark Zuckerberg comes out. Dear honorable Chairman Jim Jordan, the $400 million that I made, I regret that the Biden Harris administration was asking us, we should have never done this. And it's the, you know, the buck stops with me, right? And he's publicly saying this five months ago, man, if they go and do this Twitter files, if you guys do the FBI files, the DOJ files, if you guys do the CIA files, you guys start doing stuff like that, America is going to start believing in law and order again. And because yeah, you guys can. That's why I think some of those guys, when the guys send a message in the morning, some people are walking on eggshells today.
- [92:46]
Tom Zawacki
Some people might be flying to like move like, like a billionaire. Reid Hoffman might be thinking about leaving the country and going somewhere else.
- [92:53]
Patrick Bet-David
No.
- [92:53]
Tom Zawacki
What do you mean? And you nailed it, Pat.
- [92:54]
Patrick Bet-David
What?
- [92:54]
Tom Zawacki
Those kids that were masked, we saw the videos where they're teachers are putting masks on these little three year olds. Remember that law, the kids crying and bawling. Besides that, Pat, what about those 7 years old that were jabbed with this thing that they have no idea what's going to happen. A lot of this Maya Cardi is having. I want accountability. I'm going to be selfish because we want it. We've been, we've suffered for eight years of what they've been doing to us, ridiculing us, lying to us, using lawfare. It's time And I get it. He wants to. He wants a legacy and everything. But we want. I want. I want accountability, and I want people like you. I love that you said that Patrick Fauci that yesterday. You know, Fauci is like, oh, God, if he puts RFK in there, RFK wrote the real Dr. Fauci that I cannot. I'm happy you made that point. Those people need to be held accountable for what they did to America.
- [93:40]
Vincent
There's also little voices that I'm loving. I saw a post on Access today from a woman that's not in the United States. She says, you know, if Trump wins, I'm moving to the United States.
- [93:52]
Laura Trump
Oh, I love that.
- [93:54]
Vincent
Should I live in Miami or should I live in York? What are your suggestions? I sent her a note back and I said, you should move to Miami. Florida is.
- [94:01]
Laura Trump
Is a Miami Dade County's red. Let's go down.
- [94:05]
Vincent
Thank you, Mayor Francis Suarez, again, for your leadership. It's a red county, baby.
- [94:10]
Elon Musk
This was RFK's tweet yesterday. Did you see this? I mean, this is pretty.
- [94:15]
Patrick Bet-David
Public. Health is about to end. This includes its aggressive suppression of psychedelics, peptide stem cells, raw milk, hyperbaric therapies, chelating compounds, ivermectin, hydroclo, vitamins, foods, sunshine, exercise, nutritionalness, and anything else that advances human health and can't be patented by pharma. If you work for the FDA and are part of this corrupt system, I have two messages for you. Preserve your records and to pack your back.
- [94:39]
Vincent
You know why? You know what number one is? Because if you don't preserve your records, in addition to prosecution, we're going to go after you for obstruction of justice.
- [94:47]
Tom Zawacki
Who, if rfk, let's just say, hypothetically, whose job would RFK take? Who do you think it would be? Rachel Levine, could you show who's in charge of America's health right now? Can you show RFK's ripped, jacked. He's old. That's who he's going to take the job from.
- [95:03]
Elon Musk
She's still serving as director of whatever is that.
- [95:06]
Tom Zawacki
Let me explain something to you. That's the job. He's going to take that person's job. I hope to God that's who's in charge of America's health, period. And do I need to say more?
- [95:16]
Vincent
No, no. There's an expiration date on her resume and it's here.
- [95:19]
Tom Zawacki
Yeah. Good.
- [95:20]
Laura Trump
That's all we needed.
- [95:21]
Tom Zawacki
That's it.
- [95:21]
Laura Trump
That's it.
- [95:22]
Tom Zawacki
I just thought of that.
- [95:22]
Patrick Bet-David
Rob, show the last clip before we wrap up here. Can you show some of the highlight reel of people losing their minds?
- [95:29]
Laura Trump
I haven't seen any of these yet.
- [95:31]
Patrick Bet-David
Go ahead, Rob. Okay.
- [95:34]
Laura Trump
This is not okay. This simply will not.
- [95:39]
Elon Musk
And this is not okay.
- [95:40]
Patrick Bet-David
It's not okay. Laura. What you guys did. Devastated.
- [95:45]
Elon Musk
Mother. Mother with kids.
- [95:46]
Tom Zawacki
Wait, I love this part.
- [95:48]
Patrick Bet-David
Look, I'm sorry. No, no, no, no.
- [95:57]
Tom Zawacki
Why, why, why?
- [96:00]
Patrick Bet-David
This is all break, right? Like, you voted against me.
- [96:04]
Laura Trump
This is.
- [96:05]
Patrick Bet-David
This is.
- [96:05]
Laura Trump
You voted against my right to live. What? You voted against all the women, Batman.
- [96:12]
Elon Musk
All right.
- [96:14]
Laura Trump
I hope you enjoy your cheap gas.
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Tom Zawacki
Oh, my.
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Patrick Bet-David
I personally think they're voting to take our rights away.
- [96:20]
Laura Trump
They don't deserve to touch a woman.
- [96:21]
Patrick Bet-David
For the next four years. Don't worry, they won't.
- [96:23]
Laura Trump
You're gonna be thought that through, you guys. Yeah, I think you're a safe. Kids are gonna live.
- [96:28]
Tom Zawacki
It's gonna be okay.
- [96:32]
Laura Trump
It's not okay.
- [96:33]
Tom Zawacki
Oh, my God.
- [96:34]
Patrick Bet-David
Oh, man. This is. This is amazing.
- [96:36]
Elon Musk
Laura, I do have a question on this because, you know, what do they say? What's the famous. The three stages of truth. At first it's ridiculed. Second, it's violently opposed. And then third, it just becomes self evident. I think that's what basically happened with trump. No way. 2016 house. No way. Violently opposed Covid. And now it's just like, come on, guys, common sense is here. But you, Aaron Elmore, our friend Elizabeth Pipko.
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Laura Trump
Yeah.
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Elon Musk
Sage Steele, you guys really catapulted Trump with women. You guys had the whole women for Trump. You're going on TikTok. I see you're doing your thing for the women out there that are so scared that they're never gonna have rights again. As a woman, as a mother, child of two, you're about to have your 10th anniversary talk to the women out there. What should they expect from the Trump administration?
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Laura Trump
Well, I hate to break it to them. They've been lied to by the mainstream media, by the Democrats, by Kamala Harris herself. Donald Trump has always said he's never going to sign a federal abortion ban. Everyone says they're taking our rights away. No, no, actually the most democratic of things happened, which is that it left the issue of abortion, has left the Supreme Court making a decision. It's out of the hands of the federal government and it is now in the states. And we, the people in our respective states, have an opportunity to decide on it. So you can vote in your state for whatever you think is best for you. And it has been an issue they've obviously weaponized for decades. But they specifically tried to do it in this election. And I think the, the, the idea for them was we have to scare people. If you, if your goals are just to scare people into voting for you, I think you're losing. And clearly they did because Donald Trump won 52% of the women vote in the, in the country in this election.
- [98:18]
Elon Musk
Was that the number?
- [98:19]
Laura Trump
Yeah.
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Elon Musk
And so 52% of the women.
- [98:22]
Laura Trump
Yeah.
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Elon Musk
Voted for Trump.
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Laura Trump
But guess what he is going to do? He's going to make sure that if you're a woman who's looking for a better job, you got a better job prospect out there. If you're a mom out there, you're going to have more money for your kids, you're going to be able to buy them some better clothes for school, whatever it is, your life is going to be exponentially better. Because Donald Trump was in, is in the White House. And you can go back and look four years ago and by every quantifiable metric, he actually did that for people. Whether it was the southern border, whether it was peace through strength, first president in 82 years with no new wars, those are good things. If you've got kids who are, you know, military age, maybe you're a, you know, a woman who's got an 18, 20 year old kid, you're probably going to be happy that your kid's not going to be shifted off to fight in a war right now because Donald Trump wants to end them.
- [99:08]
Elon Musk
Thank you for that explanation, especially the second part. Because I think what often gets overlooked is that when it comes to women, it's like, oh, they just. Do they have the right to kill their child or not?
- [99:17]
Laura Trump
Yeah.
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Elon Musk
It's like, guys, hold on. We get it. Abortion. But women, they also actually, maybe they.
- [99:24]
Laura Trump
Want to buy a home, maybe they.
- [99:25]
Elon Musk
Have jobs, they need money, they have infl. They're dealing with everything else that we all are. It's not just can we remove babies? Because that is so important that women have other issues too, other than abortion.
- [99:36]
Laura Trump
Yeah, absolutely.
- [99:38]
Patrick Bet-David
Yeah.
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Tom Zawacki
I sent Rob this clip. Rock, you played the CNN one with the guy. I don't know if you saw this. I know we're closing up, but it was the guy on cnn. He's a male Kamala Harris voter, starts to cry because he's upset, Laura, that his, he's like, my daughters aren't going to be able to kill my grandkids in the future. This is a lit look at how emotional these low key people, these men, these are the soft Jimmy Kimmel men, Pat. They are soft. Look at what he's what he was sad about. Go ahead.
- [100:05]
Laura Trump
Who'd you vote for today?
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Elon Musk
I voted for Kamala Harris.
- [100:07]
Laura Trump
Why is that? I have three daughters, four children overall.
- [100:11]
Tom Zawacki
And women's rights is pretty important to them.
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Vincent
And my daughters.
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Patrick Bet-David
Sorry, I'm getting a little emotional about that.
- [100:19]
Vincent
I didn't think that I was going to do that.
- [100:20]
Laura Trump
But you know, just their bodies, their choice type of a mentality. You know, I want them to grow.
- [100:26]
Patrick Bet-David
Up in a world that's. I'm trying to welcome everybody. Like what I'm trying to find out is let's, let's say you, you are for that. Nothing wrong with different ideas that I'm a Christian. My position is very clear where I'm at. We got four kids. I would keep my wife pregnant for 20 years. She's, she's, she's, she's not having it and I'm happy to have the four, but she would stay pregnant. She would have a three month break every year and it would be pregnant the other nine months.
- [100:51]
Laura Trump
Thank God your wife stood up for herself.
- [100:53]
Patrick Bet-David
Yeah.
- [100:53]
Laura Trump
Well, so by the way, Eric Trump would love another kid, but we're all tapped out. I think we're set.
- [100:58]
Patrick Bet-David
I think you guys got one more. I think you got one more. Well, let me tell you, Jen, Jen, my wife, she, she, we had our last one at 43. Wow. 42. 43. Yeah. So.
- [101:08]
Laura Trump
Well, this isn't helping me. Go ahead.
- [101:10]
Tom Zawacki
She's like, next, next, next story.
- [101:13]
Patrick Bet-David
But let me tell you this. Like even if you're this. Okay, okay. Let's just say you're pro choice. What are you telling your. Like let's have the conversation at nine, honey. Let me tell you why.
- [101:22]
Laura Trump
Yeah.
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Patrick Bet-David
Do you realize one day.
- [101:25]
Tom Zawacki
Yeah.
- [101:26]
Patrick Bet-David
When you go have so much unprotected sex.
- [101:28]
Tom Zawacki
Yeah, dad. Keep going, dad.
- [101:30]
Patrick Bet-David
And then after two, three, four months, you change your mind. You don't want to have it. Yeah. I'm going to be there for you to get that abortion.
- [101:38]
Tom Zawacki
God, I love you guys.
- [101:39]
Patrick Bet-David
I just want you to sell me to dream. Like. But, but honestly.
- [101:42]
Tom Zawacki
Yeah.
- [101:43]
Patrick Bet-David
So what. What it sell the. I understand the, the idea of saying my body, my choice, but for father like LeBron James posted a picture. I don't know if you saw this or not. I will always be there for you, bro. You're not going to be there when she's hooking up with another guy. She's going to do her decisions.
- [101:59]
Tom Zawacki
Yeah.
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Patrick Bet-David
Okay. And I, but I'm trying to visually like you're having a conversation with your kids. You're Trying to teach them a lesson, actually role play. Talking to your 12 year old daughter about what this policy means. What do you tell them?
- [102:16]
Laura Trump
But I think this guy, this is an instance where these people have bought into the idea that they should feel guilty and that they're going to feel like morally superior voting for Kamala Harris. They think Donald Trump is a bad person. They believe the lies about him and they've been told if you vote for this woman, you're going to feel better about yourself. I think that's what happens with some of these people. It's a shame because it is. It's just that they've been getting their information from bad sources and they have no idea what they're talking about. But, you know, sad for him it didn't work out.
- [102:46]
Tom Zawacki
Yeah. And Tom, Tom, Tom, remember yesterday we were talking about this and you brought up the whole, you know, abortion and you know, Margaret Singer and all that stuff and you got. It was, it was deep.
- [102:55]
Laura Trump
Oh, it's very deep.
- [102:55]
Vincent
Yeah, we can, we can go really deep on that. Maybe another time. There's a lot, there's a lot to it.
- [103:00]
Elon Musk
As a woman, I.
- [103:03]
Laura Trump
Are you identifying today?
- [103:04]
Elon Musk
I'm in my menstrual cycle right now.
- [103:06]
Tom Zawacki
Oh, no.
- [103:07]
Laura Trump
Having cramps.
- [103:08]
Patrick Bet-David
By the way, we do the podcast Tuesday night. Okay. We start at seven. We go till three o'clock. Tom, do you know when's the last time in my life I went eight hours straight? No bathroom.
- [103:18]
Laura Trump
Oh my God.
- [103:18]
Patrick Bet-David
That's the only time you didn't get up at all. If you look at the life I sat in the chip eight straight hours.
- [103:23]
Tom Zawacki
Look, look at this guy.
- [103:24]
Patrick Bet-David
Look at this. Not even two hours.
- [103:26]
Tom Zawacki
Laura, I'm going to be right back. Laura, she's here. What do you. What kind of.
- [103:29]
Laura Trump
Must have been something I said gotta.
- [103:31]
Tom Zawacki
Go notice as soon as we started talking about women's rights and abortions.
- [103:35]
Patrick Bet-David
He's actually emotional.
- [103:36]
Vincent
Yeah. As soon as you start talking about this stuff, he starts thinking about men's prostate health and all of a sudden he's triggering down the hall in a panic.
- [103:44]
Patrick Bet-David
I was making a list of flag carriers for 2024 campaign. Yeah, actual flag carries. People that played a big role for this happen because this time around there was a lot of solid alliances that was made. If you think about flag carriers, you have to put musk there for sure. Top 10, maybe on the one list outside of President because he's number one. He's doing the work. You got Musk, you got Dana, you got Rogan, you got a lot of These podcasters that he went on, you got the family, you got the Viveks of the world, the J.D. vance's of the world. I think Charlie Kirk is top 10, to be honest with you.
- [104:26]
Laura Trump
I think Charlie's done an amazing job.
- [104:27]
Patrick Bet-David
Oh, my God, he's incredible.
- [104:28]
Laura Trump
Yeah.
- [104:29]
Patrick Bet-David
I told him the other day, I'm constantly going to tell him. I don't know if he likes compliments, but I told him, I said, you're playing a very, very important role. But I also think you played a very big role for this one.
- [104:38]
Laura Trump
Thank you.
- [104:39]
Patrick Bet-David
I really think you played a very big role because when you were up there, like, okay, go ahead and try see what's going to happen. Our lawyers will get a hold of you, that strategy of playing offense and holding their foot to the fire and say, go ahead and try to see what's going to happen if you do this. Applaud you guys for the victory.
- [104:55]
Laura Trump
Thank you.
- [104:56]
Patrick Bet-David
Seriously, when I watch you guys on stage and I watch and saying we've gone on stretches of working our tails off when you're building a business, family. My wife's a very hard working person. You know, we have traveled and she's always, she's always got an office next to my office. She's in the office five days a week.
- [105:09]
Elon Musk
She's up, she's outside right now.
- [105:10]
Patrick Bet-David
Yeah, she's waiting to say no. She specifically came from the other building just to say hi to you.
- [105:14]
Laura Trump
She came from the 12 of me.
- [105:15]
Elon Musk
When I use the restroom.
- [105:18]
Patrick Bet-David
Good for you, babe. Please keep doing that with this guy. We got to toughen him up. But it's great to have you here. We're excited to see what you guys do next. Congratulations on the victory.
- [105:26]
Laura Trump
Thank you.
- [105:26]
Patrick Bet-David
In a major way. And I guess we'll see what's going to happen next because you guys got 75 days to put that team together. The inauguration and then it's time to get to work and get everything going.
- [105:36]
Laura Trump
And we will get to work. Don't worry about it.
- [105:39]
Patrick Bet-David
We believe you. We believe you guys. I don't think we have another podcast we're doing this week and next week I think we're doing only one because we will be in dc. We got to do some things in DC next week for those that are going to cxo. You know where we're going next weekend and we'll be back again. God bless everybody. Have a great weekend. Take care.
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Laura Trump
Bye.