Trump & Xi, Putin's Nuclear Warning & Patel STOPS Charlie Kirk Investigation | PBD Podcast | Ep. 676

Summary

PBD Podcast | Ep. 676

Title: Trump & Xi, Putin's Nuclear Warning & Patel STOPS Charlie Kirk Investigation
Date: October 31, 2025
Host: Patrick Bet-David (Pat/PBD)
Guests/Co-hosts: Adam, Tom, Vinny

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Overview

This Halloween episode of the PBD Podcast brought rapid-fire, high-energy analysis and lively banter around the week’s biggest political and cultural headlines. The crew tackled Trump’s “12 out of 10” meeting with Xi Jinping, Putin’s latest nuclear threats, SNAP (food stamps) debate, New York’s combative mayoral race, Don Lemon’s social commentary, and the conspiracy questions still swirling around Charlie Kirk’s assassination. With their trademark mix of humor, skepticism, and business perspective, the team broke down complex geopolitics, U.S. domestic policy, and the absurdities of media culture—plus a dash of sports predictions.

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Key Discussion Points & Notable Moments

1. Opening Banter & Current Events Rundown

00:00 – 06:30

• High-energy, comedic introductions engaging with the holiday (Halloween).
• Quick dives into Kamala Harris’s podcast persona (“Kamala, you suck on podcasts”—Pat, 02:00).
• Adam Carolla’s controversial point on SNAP benefits and weight (03:14).
• Updates on the SNAP (food stamps) controversy ahead of the government funding deadline.

"Kamala, you suck. I'm not saying you suck. It's just, you're not good on podcasts, and when the camera's on with you, I don't know why... it's so much acting that it's like, what is that thing you do with your nails on the chalkboard?" – Pat (02:00)

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2. SNAP (Food Stamps) Debate and Government Dependency

13:00 – 25:00

• Deep dive into SNAP as benefits are set to expire, risking food insecurity for over 40 million recipients.
• Adam Carolla’s controversial comment about the weight of SNAP recipients sparks a debate on the efficacy and equity of welfare.
• Accusations that SNAP is a “backdoor to UBI,” with discussion of fraud and the expansion of entitlements.
• Heated conversation about whether able-bodied adults on government assistance should be allowed to vote.
• Personal stories: Pat’s childhood experience with food stamps, Adam’s brief period of unemployment, and broader philosophical arguments about work, dependency, and citizenship.

“First off, those 40 million people average an extra 40 pounds on them over the average working American… Nobody could benefit from a nice fast more than the SNAP recipients.” – Pat (14:20)

“They want you dependent on the government… When your food, your rent, your health care all comes from the same people asking for the vote, your freedom’s already gone, bro.” – Vinny (19:32)

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3. Pete Buttigieg vs. Chamath on Immigrant Safety

25:44 – 30:50

• Clip and reaction to Pete Buttigieg discussing immigrant fears on the All-In podcast with Chamath Palihapitiya.
• Chamath’s dissent: “I feel safer under Trump than Biden” (26:23).
• Panel’s take: Political narratives vs. the lived experience of legal immigrants; skepticism toward the Democratic framing of “fear.”
• Broader analysis of Silicon Valley’s shifting political sentiment.

"I feel much safer and better under a Donald Trump presidency than I ever did under a Biden presidency.” – Chamath Palihapitiya (26:23, quoted by Pat)

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4. Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom’s Media Dilemma

33:54 – 42:42

• Sharp critique of Kamala Harris’s inability to answer direct questions or perform well in tough interviews (“world class pivot” moment—34:27).
• Clips of Kamala avoiding questions about Biden’s frailty and Stewart calling out her evasiveness.
• Newsom’s public gamesmanship with Joe Rogan, characterized as “reverse psychology.”
• Panel’s consensus: Newsom is slick, opportunistic; Kamala is unconvincing and unskilled.

"That is a world class pivot, but it is not the question that I asked." – Sarah Ferguson, prompting laughter and exasperation (35:27)

“Kamala Harris reminds me of the scene from Billy Madison… at no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.” – Adam (41:54)

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5. The Trump–Xi Meeting, Fentanyl, and Geopolitics

43:33 – 68:54

• Trump rates meeting with Xi as a "12 out of 10" (45:16).
• Key outcomes: Lowered tariffs, agreement on fentanyl curbs, reprieve for rare earth minerals, joint statement to work on Ukraine, but no change on chip export curbs.
• Detailed historic and strategic analysis: “triangular diplomacy” traced from Kissinger to Trump, discussing US–China–Russia relations.
• Interplay between Trump’s charm offensive, Xi’s cultural resistance to flattery, and Putin’s reaction—demonstrating great-power chess.

“[Trump] tries triangular diplomacy… the better partner to go against China would have been Putin, but Putin’s not playing ball. Now [Trump] develops a stronger relationship with China, leaving Putin on an island.” – Pat (52:45)

“Xi does not respond to flattery… there’s no flattery to appease Xi.” – Adam (68:54)

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6. Putin’s Nuclear Posturing & Nuclear Balance

54:10 – 68:07

• Russia unveils and dramatizes the “Poseidon” nuclear torpedo, capable of generating 1,600-ft radioactive tsunamis.
• Trump responds by threatening to resume US nuclear testing.
• Analysis: Russia’s saber-rattling is meant to disrupt US–China rapprochement and send signals before major summits.
• Nuclear statistics: Russia has the largest arsenal, but China is the fastest-growing; panel sees Russia as a “paper tiger” except for its nukes.

“What China did, that’s 100 of the super modern [nukes]... with the deployment system. China’s stuff is the advanced stuff, and that's what's nerve-wracking.” – Tom (66:07)

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7. NYC Mayoral Race: Mamdani, Identity, and Populist Promises

69:29 – 78:36

• Scandal erupts around NYC mayoral candidate Zahran Mamdani: his mother says he “is not American at all.”
• Mamdani’s controversial statements, flip-flops on police, sex work, Palestinian liberation, and anti-Israel activism.
• Critique of immigrant politicians perceived as “Trojan horses”; debate over whether only US-born citizens should be eligible for office.
• Discussion about the “Mamdani effect” spreading to other city races (Miami, Minneapolis, etc.)

“If the President of the United States has to be born in America, why shouldn’t the same rule apply for every political position?” – Vinny (78:39)

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8. Bill Gates Flips on Climate, Trump Declares Victory

82:21 – 89:41

• Bill Gates, known climate hawk, now says doomsday scenarios are overblown, and priorities should shift to overall human welfare.
• Trump jumps on Gates’ shift, claims “victory” on the climate change debate.
• Pat speculates the Epstein files are being used as leverage to extract policy or PR concessions from influential figures like Gates.

“If you’d asked me a year ago what are the chances that Trump convinces Bill Gates to say climate change is not an issue anymore, I’d have said zero. That’s how wild this change is.” – Pat (85:37)

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9. Media Hypocrisy: Don Lemon, Megyn Kelly, and Trans Insults

95:27 – 102:20

• Don Lemon calls Megyn Kelly “trans,” using a term (“clockable”) as an insult.
• Panel highlights hypocrisy: Being trans is celebrated on the left, but now used as a slur by the same people.
• For emphasis, Tom highlights Ann Coulter’s reaction: “Now being trans is a slur? When did that happen?” (97:54)
• Commentary on media echo chambers and brainwashing.

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10. Conspiracies, Investigations & the Kirk Assassination

104:00 – 114:09

• Update on the Charlie Kirk case: Tensions between Cash Patel and Joe Kent over the handling of the investigation into possible foreign involvement.
• Deep skepticism around official narratives; Pat says he’d “volunteer for the FBI” to get answers.
• Panel’s consensus: Too many unanswered questions, frustration over gag orders, and refusal to televise the trial.

“I would volunteer to go work for the FBI to investigate and be one. That’s how bad I want to know what happened… This guy was a once in a generation type. I want to know.” – Pat (111:49)

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11. Closing—Sports Banter, Family Clips & Satirical Newsom Skit

121:15 – End

• Heartwarming kid’s birthday greeting for Pat; playful ribbing among hosts about their own families.
• Satirical “Newsom on the Block” sketch poking fun at Gavin Newsom’s tendency to pander.
• Baseball predictions: Dodgers vs. Blue Jays for the World Series; Pat roots for a walk-off Ohtani home run.
• The episode ends with a celebratory and humorous send-off, setting a light-hearted mood for Halloween.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On SNAP/Welfare:
  “If you’re an able-bodied American citizen and you choose not to work, but you’re living off the government, you shouldn’t be able to vote.” – Vinny (19:32)
• On Kamala Harris’s interview style:
  “That is a world class pivot, but it is not the question that I asked.” – Sarah Ferguson (35:27)
• On Triangular Diplomacy:
  “The better partner to go against China would have been Putin, but Putin’s not playing ball. So [Trump] develops a stronger relationship with China, leaving Putin on an island.” – Pat (52:45)
• On Bill Gates’ Climate Turn:
  “If you’d asked me a year ago what are the chances that Trump convinces Bill Gates to say climate change is not an issue anymore, I’d have said zero.” – Pat (85:37)
• On Megyn Kelly/Trans Insults:
  “Only a gay man would say she’s trans because only a gay man would not find Megyn Kelly attractive… which actually makes me respect that he’s truly gay.” – Pat (97:20)
• On Charlie Kirk’s case:
  “I would volunteer to go work for the FBI to investigate… That’s how bad I want to know what happened here.” – Pat (111:49)
• On NYC politics:
  “If the President has to be born in America, why shouldn't the same rule apply for every political position?” – Vinny (78:39)

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Timestamps of Major Segments

• 00:00 — Lively intro, Kamala/Biden satire
• 13:00 — SNAP debate & Adam Carolla’s weight comment
• 19:32 — Welfare dependency, voting rights argument
• 25:44 — Buttigieg vs. Chamath immigrant safety
• 33:54 — Kamala’s “world class pivot,” Newsom vs. Rogan
• 43:33 — Trump–Xi summit results
• 54:10 — Putin’s nuclear torpedo threat
• 69:29 — NYC mayoral race, Mamdani controversies
• 82:21 — Bill Gates climate change flip
• 95:27 — Don Lemon, trans-insult hypocrisy
• 104:00 — Cash Patel vs. Joe Kent on Charlie Kirk probe
• 121:15 — Satirical Newsom skit, baseball picks, closing banter

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Overall Tone and Style

• Unfiltered and highly opinionated; humor and sarcasm layered into nearly every topic.
• Frequent cross-talk and interruptions—mirroring the energy of a real-time studio debate.
• Language sometimes spicy or rough, particularly around figures they criticize.
• Willingness to flip from jokes to historical analysis, business comparisons, and personal stories.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode is a firehose of political analysis, skepticism, behind-the-scenes campaign talk, and satirical heat aimed at the American left, with a strong focus on the Democrats’ top figures and policy narratives. It balances quick-witted commentary with stretches of in-depth explanation—making it equally suited for headline chasers, political junkies, and people just seeking entertainment with their news. The podcast remains true to PBD’s brand: high-tempo, strongly opinionated, skeptical of government expansion, and regularly punctuated by pop culture and sports.

Transcript

[Tom]

Did you ever think you would make.

[Adam]

It.

[Pat]

For me, Adam? What's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever saw. It's right here. You are a one of one.

[Vinny]

I don't think I've ever said this.

[Pat]

All right, so folks, we got a couple special people in the house. We got an Italian from New York who is furious Mamdani is going to be the mayor. Yeah. Yeah. Stupid.

[Vinny]

I hate him. Go back to where you're from.

[Adam]

You know what I'm saying? Where's he from?

[Vinny]

Freaking guy promoting freaking terrorists, Hamas, New Yorkers. How you doing? Nice outfit. Very nice outfit. Good to.

[Pat]

Good to meet you, Vinnie.

[Vinny]

You like this curl?

[Pat]

I like. I love the curl.

[Vinny]

It's going to stay there the whole freaking.

[Pat]

The whole time. Yeah. And then. And then we have to your left. Legendary driver. He's bleeding a little bit, but he's going to be fine.

[Vinny]

Look at this freaking guy. He's fine. I can go. I can go.

[Pat]

And then to my right. I have no clue who we have to my right. So, Adam, can you tell everybody who you are today? Talking about who's an.

[Adam]

And he had his own curls. I got my own curls, too.

[Vinny]

Where's your curls?

[Pat]

So what's your story?

[Adam]

What do you got?

[Tom]

Look.

[Vinny]

Okay, I can't hear.

[Pat]

Finally, the truth is out. All right?

[Adam]

Everyone knows that Patrick bought David. You've been funded by either Israel or Qatar now.

[Pat]

Well, we. We.

[Adam]

The truth is out.

[Pat]

Yes, because that's $7,000 is a lot of money. It's like life changing post. So. And then listen, I'm Jazz Chisholm today, man. I'm Julie.

[Adam]

I got.

[Pat]

I got my. Every time I come around your city, bling bling Pinky ring worth about 50, by the way.

[Adam]

Bling bling.

[Pat]

The. The Yankees ALCS ring just came in for owners. This is the Yankees ring that says David on the side.

[Vinny]

Are you serious?

[Pat]

Yeah, it's actually.

[Vinny]

That's freaking great.

[Adam]

I'm gonna go take a look at this outside.

[Pat]

Okay. All right. So having said that, we got a lot of things that we got to be talking about. There's one rule I think if. If we give a recommendation to somebody, please take this advice. Okay. Kamala, you suck. I'm not saying you suck. It's just you're not good on podcasts and when the camera's on with you, I don't know why. It seriously is like you sincerely want to listen to ideas, but it's so much of acting that it's like what is that thing you do with your nails on the chalkboard? My goodness. It's like just either.

[Adam]

Yeah, Tom, Okay.

[Pat]

We just lost half the audience. Either either, you know, be yourself or just stop acting and telling five different stories. This one lady had to stop her and say, that is a world class. What did you call it? Pivot I've ever seen in my life. And then you see Kamala getting upset. But that's one. Pete Buttigieg went on Shamat and said, immigrants in America are very afraid and they're worried.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Pat]

And Shamat is like, I'm an immigrant buddy. Okay? And I'm not afraid. And it's the safest I've felt in a while. You got to see that clear.

[Tom]

And he. And he added that he was here legally.

[Pat]

Yeah. And by the way, but you know what? You know what I do? Every time we do podcasts, we do have to give credit to people that sincerely want to make the world a better place. I want to give a big shout out to Adam Carolla, because Adam Carolla very statistically said that women who don't receive snap are 65 pounds lighter than those who do.

[Adam]

What a.

[Pat]

What a. So for him, he is encouraging SNAP not being available, I think, for another month. So those who are on snap to lose 65 pounds for the health of America. Hard. Hard to, you know. Yeah. I mean, that's freaking. I swear to God, if anybody says anything about ad, you know, Adam Carolla not being noble when it comes on to these types of issues, you got to give him. You got to give him credit. So forget about Jenny Craig. It's called Adam Corolla. He's got to come. He's got to come out with a new drink called the Adam Corolla Weight loss program. Yeah. And the reason for that is today's November 1st, and today SNAP expires October 31st. Today's October 31st. Tomorrow's going to be November 1st, and SNAP expires tomorrow. So, folks, whatever you're doing, just be ready, okay? Could be mayhem tomorrow when it does expire, and we're going to see what's going to be happening. But aside from that, you know, you. You probably don't want to be a guy named Andrew related to a royalty family. It was a bad day for you yesterday. King Charles removes Prince Andrew's royal titles, orders him to vacate the royal lodge. What? Why would he do that?

[Tom]

Yeah, they had him in the small castle, and now he has to even leave there.

[Pat]

The small castle. Can you imagine, like, how Dare they put him in a small castle.

[Tom]

Kensington is like the big palace. They had him out back at the lodge, and now they're like. Can you just tell him no, no, no, not even that.

[Adam]

Get out.

[Pat]

Get out. Yeah, because apparently he used to. He used to go to this one place. This. It's not an. It's not called Rosario island outside of Colombia. There's an. I don't know where he used to go. We used to go somewhere.

[Adam]

Hey, I love his new last name.

[Tom]

His new last name is Mountbatten. And the British memes have gone nuts overnight. Seriously. He will now be known as Andrew Mountbatten. It's like a name from the family, from history. Mount Batten.

[Pat]

Got it. Okay, that's great. How's Trump rates the meeting with G? Not 10 out of 10. 12 out of 10. Oh. I mean, that's extra credit.

[Vinny]

That's fantastic.

[Pat]

And lowering tariffs so we can talk about.

[Adam]

Dated a 12 out of 10.

[Pat]

JD Vance discusses not easy. You sound like a guy that goes to an island. J.D. vance discusses. J.D. vance discusses potential 2028 presidential ticket with Marco Rubio. Fed cuts rates again, but nobody is happy about it because it's like. It's like when the Dodgers win a game, they never win the right way. Okay? Like, how do you not win in a better way? You're going to give me a rate cut? Give a damn rate cut.

[Vinny]

Come on.

[Pat]

Instead of doing this, they're taking half.

[Tom]

The week off getting their butts kissed right now.

[Pat]

That's right.

[Tom]

I'll be very objective about that.

[Pat]

What Trump and G did and did not agree upon in the meeting. J.D. vance. We already talked about that. Stefanik narrowly leading Hoko in New York governor race. And by the way, I agree with Tom. I think that's brought to you by Mamdani. Mamdani is helping.

[Tom]

A year from now, it's going to be even worse. His effect on her.

[Pat]

Here are six ways the government shutdown could get worse for Americans. Shutdown will cost $14 billion in economic losses. CBO analysis says. And then you got cash. Patel shuts down Charlie Kirk. Foreign intelligence probe and explosive feud with Trump's counter terror chief Comer calls for Biden pardons to be null and void over auto pin controversy. Oh, my God. New York City candidates Mother said he's not an American at all. We should believe her. MTA boss Lieber slams or on Mamdani's free bus pledge Panic selling hits New York as woke Mayor sparks Sunbelt exodus Guys, stop it. No one's going to leave.

[Vinny]

Come on. Like, come on. Andrew even said no one's going to. Nobody's leaving New York. People are going.

[Pat]

Yeah, no one's going to.

[Tom]

But he's talking about Gavin Newsom, the I'm going to chase you tax.

[Pat]

I get it. I get that You Russia tested Poseidon nuclear torpedo capable of destroying cities with radioactive tsunami. By the way, you know what this is with Putin's new thing they're testing. They're saying when they drop in the middle of the Ocean, it creates 1600 foot waves. Not 16, not 160. 1600 foot waves is what Tom was telling us yesterday. We're going to definitely story building. Yeah. Iran. No, that's not a 14 story building. No, that's 140 story building, Tom. So you said 1600ft. 14 story building is 140ft. Oh, I'm sorry, the floor is 10ft.

[Vinny]

That happens in California though. Yeah, dude, they're going to ride that. Oh, they're going burning their skin, but they're gonna.

[Pat]

No, by the way, this is going to cause a lot of people to get better at surfing.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Iran rebuilding ballistic missile program with Chinese aid. Define UN sanctions. Bill Gates has changed his mind, folks. What shifts tone on climate, criticizes doomsday view drawn mixed reaction.

[Vinny]

Oh, weird.

[Pat]

And then Trump's grateful for Bill Gates's pivot, declares victory over climate change Hoax guy Fed cuts rates again. Nvidia is officially a $5 trillion company. And this whole thing with Micah, with AWS, you know the cloud stuff that happened to them, you know who it happened to now? Azure.

[Tom]

Weird.

[Pat]

Azure is Microsoft's cloud company, which is number two. And I have some thoughts on that. And then who's in, who's out? The rise of Barry Weiss at cbs. People getting fired left and right. And hypocrite Don Lemon. Whose story is this? New York Post torched for saying Megan Kelly looks trans. The left is using trans as an adult insult. Now two NBA legends call players soft over new techniques in separate interview. And that is Michael Jordan. And AI. And AI. Not AI, like, you know, artificial intelligence. AI as in practice. AI. Right. Ilhan Omar rips Chuck Schumer for not endorsing Mamdani in New York City mayoral election. Leftist losing slimy coward Gavin Newsom portrayal of Charlie Kirk. That's Sky News Australia. Gavin Newsom says he's moving on from appearing on Joe Rogan's podcast and Kamala Harris World Cup. Oh, my God, there's just so many things with that. Anyways, having said that, let's get right into it. You know what is scary? Because today's Halloween. You know what is scary to most people? Planning. Most people are afraid of planning. Most people are afraid of sitting there and saying, oh my God, you want me to plan for next year? But you know who's not scared of planning? I want to introduce you to this guy who was looking for a business plan to fall out of the sky for him and it didn't happen, but he made a decision to put on his calendar on December 12 to spend an entire day with somebody. Go ahead and play this clip. Watch this fellow here. Good looking guy minding his own business.

[Adam]

The best looking guy.

[Pat]

Hey, Vinn.

[Tom]

What's up?

[Pat]

Pat, what are you doing?

[Vinny]

Waiting. Waiting for what business plan to come from Scott. Also, people told me it works.

[Pat]

That's how it works.

[Vinny]

Work for Newton.

[Pat]

That's not how it works. On December 12, I host an event called the Business Planning Workshop where we go through this entire manual together on how to write a business plan based on 12 building blocks.

[Vinny]

Okay?

[Pat]

All you have to do is click on a link below. Okay, get registered. December 12th. We'll be together all day.

[Vinny]

All right, so can we go eat right now? Because I've been four hours waiting like an idiot.

[Pat]

Idiot. I mean, he even made me look up the second time to see if it was going to fall or not. But it's not falling for some of you guys. I got big plans for 2026 December 12th. Come join us. Rob, can we please put the link below everywhere so people can see it? For those of you guys that are listening to it on audio, it's bpw.bedavidconsulting.com Join us December 12th together to write up your business plan for 2026. Having said that, there's some rough business planning going on for 2026. You know why? Why? Because SNAP is about to expire tomorrow and people are losing their minds. But not Adam Carolla. Adam Corolla has advice for people. Right? So what to know about SNAP as benefits set to expire amid government shutdown? So let's, let's read a couple of these things for some of the folks. Folks, if you're watching PBD podcasts, I don't know if you're how much of you are relying on snap. So maybe you don't know about it. So let's educate you a little bit. The federally funded supplement nutritional system program called SNAP has been increasingly searched topic of discussion as the government shutdown threatens to halt benefits for more than 42 million Americans who rely on it. If the shutdown, which is nearly one month mark, continues into November, SNAP benefits could seize as early as November 1st. What is SNAP? The program, sometimes referred to as food stamps, issues electronic benefits to millions of eligible low income individuals and families. Those benefits can be used to purchase food. Who Is eligible for SNAP? U.S. citizens must apply for SNAP in the state they currently live in and must meet requirements such as resource and income limits. This is ABC News's article. By the way, how do you how do SNAP work? Benefits from financial assistance? What can SNAP buy and work? Can SNAP be used? Eligible households can use their benefits on fruit and vegetables, meat and poultry and fish, dairy products, breads and cereal, and other products such as snack food, nonalcoholic beverages and seed and plants that produce food for the household. And how Trump's Mega Bill Chain snap. Remember, this is abc. Earlier this year, President Trump signed his tax and spending megabill into July 4 into law. On July 4, changes were made to SNAP eligibility factors including work requirements and non citizen eligibility. Work requirements. Those working are paying for you not to work maybe for 90 days for you to recover from it but not permanently rely on it. Right? And non citizen eligibility. The mega bill also slashed SNAP funding by an estimated $186 billion over 10 years. The mega bill further shuttered the SNAP ED, a federally funded grant program that helps people make the SNAP dollar stretch teaches them how to cook healthy meals. Really? Okay. Abc teaching them how to cook healthy meals. Perfect. If SNAP is teaching people how to cook healthy meals, tell me why. These numbers that Adam Carolla is sharing, how healthy is it for you to be 65 pound heavier? Go ahead rap reading that snap's going to run out. You know, 40 million people voice is the best.

[Tom]

40 million.

[Pat]

40 million. Okay, listen to me everybody. This whole thing of like 40 million people are going to go hungry. First off, those 40 million people average an extra £40 on them over the average working American. If you took the average person that's on SNAP getting free food and the average person that gets no free food from the government. The average female who gets no free food from the government is 146 pounds. The average SNAP recipient is 211 pounds.

[Vinny]

So I, I know is first off.

[Pat]

We talk about going hungry hungry. Nobody could benefit from a nice fast more than the SNAP recipients. Tell me that's not noble Tom, by the way, he says 40 pounds. But what did he say the numbers were? Rob? The the person, the average person that takes SNAP is 211 pounds. And those who take no SNAP are 146 pounds. So we're starving the people that are not eating and we're feeding the people that are eating too much. Is that kind of what that means? Tom what's. Tell me about the Matthew, because I'm, you know, just a regular guy. You're trying to figure this thing out. What's going on here? TOM?

[Tom]

Well, I think Adam Kroll is making a point that it's not helping people. I think he, he's tongue in cheek making a point about, hey, it's not really helping the poor people that need it. People that are on it are just kind of, you know, doing nothing and just kind of gorging and becoming very, very large. We have to remember a couple of things. I'm not going to repeat any part of the story, Pat. I'm going to run into something here. The Dems want SNAP to become part of ubi. It's a back door for ubi. They want to open more and more and more government programs toward universal basic income. So they want SNAP to be more people, and they want people. And by the way, we haven't even got to the part where how many. It's not 40 million Americans. It's 40 million people in America. There are people on this, a huge percent of the people that are not citizens that are taking advantage of it. And there's frauds. I read last week, I was reading about snap, and I read SNAP fraud stings. Do you know, in Hawaii they ran apparently I was trying to find this again, but the commentary I was reading had a quick quip and I hope this is correct. But it stands to reason there are people that file for it and then sell the cards. They sell the cards for cash because they're below the line. So they could qualify to get the card, but they're able to go to Costco and other places and get enough food for themselves. That makes sense. So then they sell the card. So guess what? It is sort of like universal basic income. The same thing they did with Social Security. They kept expanding Social Security. Oh, you're 11 years old and you're, and, and someone passed away, you can have the Social Security benefits, even though you weren't due to get that for 50 years.

[Pat]

And so, yeah, what you're talking about is Hawaii has a, has a hotline that's 1-866-264-2925 that you call. This is what they reported this year. Hawaii's Department of Human Services issued a Frau alert on May 22, 2024. You're so right.

[Adam]

That's right.

[Pat]

About this. Of people taking advantage of ebt. And you know what ends up happening? They were issued a payment error rate on Hawaii SNAP program. The state was fined almost $11 million by the federal government because its error rate overpayment and underpayments for snap jumped 21% in 22:23.

[Tom]

Well, there you go. People that really need it aren't getting it. And the state's not. Doesn't have a filtering out.

[Vinny]

Yeah, exactly.

[Tom]

Apparently.

[Vinny]

And then.

[Tom]

And then the government's got to come down and find one of the 50 children in these United States. States.

[Pat]

Yeah. So, Adam, your thoughts on why is.

[Adam]

This such a big deal? Meaning, like, I just sent Rob a thing over here. Let me actually use a little bit more of a Brooklyn accent over here. But we can't. Can't let people go hungry. But what people are we talking about here? Because I saw this stat over here. I'm trying to do my book on accent. Rob, if you could show this the types of people who are using the snap.

[Vinny]

And Adam, just talk regular. Your regular Jewish is perfect.

[Adam]

They're Afghani.

[Vinny]

Your regular you is great. Don't make it crazier, Vincent.

[Pat]

I'm trying to.

[Vinny]

Go ahead, just go. I want to hear the story.

[Adam]

Look at these people. Where they coming from?

[Pat]

From?

[Adam]

They're definitely not my people. They're Afghani. They're Somali. The Iraqi, the Haitians. I love the Haitians. They're eating the cats. They're eating the dogs. But are these people are not American?

[Tom]

Who are you?

[Adam]

Are these people not supposed to be here? Is this what's going on? Why are they getting. Why are they getting the cat? One of my buddies right now is in the middle of texting me. He's an American. I'm not going to use his name, but he's like, bro, they're going to cut me out of snap. I said, why the hell are you on snap?

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

You've been in this country. You're born and raised in America.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

What is.

[Adam]

You're a father with two kids. Why are you even on. Why are so many people. Have you ever been on snap?

[Vinny]

Because you can't. No, because he can. No, because he can't. If he's in Hawaii, someone's gonna change the name to make it sound cool. Oh, snap.

[Adam]

Oh, it's food stamps. It's food stamps. By the way, have you ever been on it?

[Vinny]

Never.

[Adam]

Pbd. Have you ever collected food stamps?

[Pat]

Food Stamps? Yes, you have.

[Adam]

Why did you collect it?

[Pat]

19. I did not. My mother did. 13 years old.

[Adam]

How long did she collect it for?

[Pat]

I couldn't even tell you.

[Vinny]

Okay?

[Adam]

I. My first job, I worked for one year. Then I got laid off and they gave me unemployment, they gave me food stamps. It lasts for six months. Six months?

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

If you're a working and able bodied person, triple get a job six months later. I mean, we've heard, we've all heard the stories of the welfare queen. Just get having kids and getting food stamps and like you never, you get married to the government, you never need a man. You never have to work. You just. The government pays for you. How long is that sustainable? People talk about the, you know, entitlement programs here. Social Security, Medicaid. Those are people a lot of times that can't work. You're old, you're sick. These are for able bodied people just having kids.

[Pat]

So the point is, my question is.

[Adam]

Why are so many people on this, Adam? How long are they on?

[Vinny]

Because think about it. He said 40 million, Pat. The actual number is 41 to 42 million. That's one out of eight Americans are on food stamps, okay? And that's, that's exactly what the left wants. They want you dependent on the government, okay? They don't want strong independent citizens. They want votes. Voters who rely on freaking government checks. Because guess what, Adam, that's how they held on to power, bro. When your food, your rent, your health care all comes from the same people asking for the vote. Your freedom's already gone, bro, by the way. And then think about it during the.

[Adam]

Biden, Quick, Rob, while he's, while he's doing the thing, can you just pull up who else who's eligible for food stamps or what are they called with.

[Vinny]

The time during the, during the Biden administration? Democrat. Remember, they were like asking for voter ideas. Racist. Who are they pandering to? And then Gavin Newsom has made it illegal to even ask for identification in California, okay? They flood the country with the illegals and those are the voters. And here's the truth, Pat, and I love that you said it in the beginning. If you're an abled bodied American citizen and you choose not to work, but you're living off the government, you shouldn't be able to vote.

[Pat]

I agree.

[Vinny]

Do you feel me?

[Pat]

I agree. By the way, check this out. So here's a guy World star just posted this 19 hours ago, by the way, a lot of foul language. So brace for impact. If you got your kids around Earmuffs, Step away from this. But this guy is talking about folks who are getting food stamps. Go ahead and play the clip. Rob thinking it, but they ain't gonna say, listen here. I don't give a about y' all losing y' all food stamp. I'm 25 with no kids. I get up at 6 o' clock to go to work, and at the end of the work, I go coach kids. It's just not hard for you out here with kids. It's hard for us too. And no way do I want my hard earned tax money going towards you and your non kid just because you couldn't get off your back and go get a job or tell a to wear a car. So, no, I do not give a cause you're losing your benefits. Get off your ass. Go get a job. Do what the you got to do. Okay, you can proceed with your kid. I will tell you, he doesn't curse as much as Kamala does.

[Vinny]

Kamala's horrible.

[Pat]

Kamala goes a little bit more, but obviously a part of that. On. On what? The point is, I was in the military, okay? And I remember when I was in the military, what would happen on a Monday morning formation, they would come out and they would say the following. If you're so last four years, Social Security ends with a three, step to the front, and you're like, gosh, here we go. You would step to the front and then they know, they would say, johnson, yours also ends with a three. Oh, come on, Sarge. Step to the front. Up to the front. Okay, all right, follow us. Then he go to the bathroom and you have to pee and. And I don't know what they would do. Their head was like right here, watching everything to make sure there was no.

[Vinny]

Adding, like bleach or something. Let me take a look.

[Adam]

Let me take a look.

[Pat]

They would take a look and you're peeing. Kind of like how he's doing.

[Adam]

Take a look.

[Pat]

And then you would handle your business. You would handle your business. And then afterwards they would come back and say, you tested positive for weed. Okay, you're getting demoted from an E4 to an E1. Oh, come on. Yep. And you got to do Article 15. All right? And you go away. I come out, I'm talking to one of my friends. I said, this guy's a hardcore liberal at the time. I said, I believe anybody who gets anything for free. Welfare, food stamps, unemployment, anything drug tested at any time if we want to. To make sure you're living a straight up life. And it's a short term period that you get. That's not fair. That's invading people's privacy. Wait a minute. You're truly invading people's privacy and you're getting money from the people that are working to give you the benefit now? We're not doing it. So the point is Obama, back in the days when he was president, I think unemployment at one point. Rob, can you verify this? Under Obama, unemployment at one point went all the way up to 24 months. At 24 months. Just check to see if this is accurate. Was that, Was that his. Yeah, there you go. During Obama's presidency, there were 24 consecutive months of job. But there was at one point that unemployment benefits.

[Adam]

Unemployment.

[Pat]

So I just asked right now, Rob, I asked if you. I asked if there is. If unemployment was up to 24 months and they would pay unemployment up to 24 months. Yeah, that's what it was.

[Adam]

This was during the Great Recession.

[Pat]

I understand that, but it was a massive, like, like guys could extend, extend, extended two years and then all of a sudden they cut. And once they cut, everybody started looking for a job. Yeah. So what happens if all of a sudden you cut this? Hey, guess what? Go look for a job. This wasn't created for you to just stay on it. So anyways, we're going to see what's going to be happening with this.

[Vinny]

I know you agree with them. Not like I think if you're, if you can get a job and you're not and you're just getting money from the government, you're not going to vote. It's called a free and fair election. If you're buying that, you're buying their vote. Stay on the. We're going to keep you money. You shouldn't be able to stop people from voting.

[Adam]

But I see what you're saying. I think that there needs to be some accountability if you're just sucking off the teeth.

[Pat]

But wait a minute. Let me ask you for what he's saying.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Pat]

If other taxpayers who are working hard are paying for you, you're voting to make a decision on behalf of who other people that are funding you. There is no logic there.

[Vinny]

Yep.

[Pat]

You don't own Apple. You're not a shareholder. You don't get to say anything about Apple. What.

[Adam]

How are you paying your shareholder of America? Because you're a citizen.

[Pat]

Define that. Define what that is.

[Adam]

Citizen of America.

[Vinny]

Are you contributing? Are you paying taxes? Having babies?

[Adam]

Listen, there's half of people in America I don't think should have a vote whatsoever. But they Have a vote.

[Pat]

We can't and.

[Adam]

And dismantle the voting system.

[Pat]

If you're pointing your legal citizen point is, logically, yes. In any company, okay? In any organization, whoever carries their little red wagon more than others gets a bigger vote. Yep. If we're sitting there, yes. If we ran a country, that's the only way we would ever do it. If you don't, you don't. It's that simple. But obviously, right now, the more and more they're going to, people are upset because, oh, snap. Is teaching people how to build healthy food. Really? Why are they 60 pounds heavier? Then tell me how healthy. Oh, you think they're following the. If they. If they were following directions, they would go get a job right now. What do you mean? You know, any of the other stuff that they're talking about. Anyways, all right, let's get to the next one here. Next one I want to get into is Pete Buttigieg decides to go on chamat, and I think it's called the All In Podcast. Right.

[Adam]

Of course it is. And. Oh, look at that. And is this Halloween? What is he doing?

[Pat]

Yeah, so. So he goes on the podcast.

[Vinny]

He's a straight man.

[Pat]

He goes on the podcast.

[Vinny]

Real man.

[Pat]

Look at.

[Adam]

He's a real boy.

[Pat]

Adam, stop. No more, okay? He decides to go on the podcast, and Pete Buttigieg brings up the concern with immigrants. And here's what he had to say. And here's what Shaman had to say. Go ahead, Rob.

[Vinny]

The worse it feels to be in this country, the better off Donald Trump is, whether he's running for president or whether he is president and sending troops marching into the streets. Can I just say, as the only immigrant right now on this podcast who immigrated here legally, I feel much safer and better under a Donald Trump presidency.

[Pat]

Than I ever did under a Biden presidency.

[Vinny]

Just want you to hear from my mouth, for what that's worth. Do you feel safer about the fact that a Latino doctor crossing the street in Washington, D.C. is getting hassled or harassed because they're brown? I don't think that I've heard that now. Okay, so you're not aware of any case in which a US Citizen who is me no like. But I will tell you, for example, after 9 11.

[Adam]

Wait, wait.

[Vinny]

You're on a podcast commenting about immigration? You have some level of awareness? Let me tell you, after 9 11, for example, for years I had SSS on my boarding passes, and I was pulled over constantly, and people probably thought that I was a Muslim hijacker. So I Know what it feels like to be harassed. And what I'm telling you categorically is I feel safer in this presidency than I have ever felt. And I'm just letting you know that just my lived experience, by the way.

[Pat]

What a fair, sound, reasonable way of giving his argument on both sides and Pete not knowing what to do with it. Tom, your thoughts on this?

[Tom]

Well, Pete, let's find a victim. Buttigieg. There we go again. Let's find a victim and exploit it. Find a crazy example or not a crazy example. What if that really happened and what if that happened under ice? You compare about what's going on with the rest of it. But what Pete was there was, he was stammering, he was waiting for them to kind of come a little bit the liberal side, and they wouldn't do it. And he was just kind of stuck and stammering, which shows you people aren't buying what you're selling and you don't have the facts to back it up because the back of the package says like cigarettes. You know what? That's what it is. No one's buying what the Democrats are selling. And when you pick it up and look at the package on the back, you get like a warning label like they put on cigarettes.

[Vinny]

And Tom, you think about it, doesn't this kind of coincide, Pat, with the previous story? They're pissed off. They're based their Democratic leadership is because Trump, besides getting out illegals that are causing the crimes and they have records, they're getting rid of their votes, bro. 500,000 people gone. A million people gone. Those people are all voting for the Democratic Party and they're going bye bye. They're going bye bye. And that rhetoric. You mean to tell me one story of one guy that's brown? And by the way, you know what SSS stands for? Secondary Security Screening Selection. Meaning every boarding pass says make sure you take that Brown guy and search him again because of 9 11. Like, give me a break, Pete. Buttigieg. By the way, Pat, there was multiple instances on this podcast where Chamath with his really comfortable sweater is just taking them apart like fear porn by fear porn by fear porn. It was actually a really, really good podcast.

[Tom]

I should call it the Mic Drop Podcast.

[Vinny]

It should have been.

[Adam]

It's cool to see Chamath basically being a defender of Trump. We all, we all know a lot of the people in the Silicon Valley in 2016-2020 were not fans of Trump, but they're not defending him. But now they're sort of a Staunch allies. Sort of the Maga 2.0, which we talked about this. And then Pete, Peter just sort of gives this anecdotal. Yeah, you didn't hear about this one guy this one time. It's like, okay, cool. I will say this, you know, to maybe defend Buttigieg for a second. Chamath and the all in guys, they're based in where? Silicon Valley.

[Vinny]

They're in San Francisco.

[Adam]

Okay. So I don't know what effect they're having from the Donald Trump effect. If there's someone you need to look at, it would be Gavin Newsom, your governor that's based in Sacramento out there. So if any. Any issues you're dealing with in San Francisco or Northern California, that's all downstream of what Gavin Newsom is doing. If you're feeling the national effect of what? If you're going to dc, if you're going to certain towns where Trump is sending the National Guard, I get it. You probably feel safer there. But any issues you have are not necessarily a Trump or Biden thing. It's a Gavin Newsom thing. I'd love to hear his comments on what Gavin Newsom has done in the state of California.

[Pat]

Well, to talk about Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom has moved on from Joe Rogan. Rob, I don't know if you heard or not.

[Adam]

Oh, really?

[Pat]

All this time he was talking about he's. Joe is afraid of me, you know, tough guy, all this stuff. He has officially decided to move on from Joe Rogan. Go ahead, Rob.

[Vinny]

Look, he hasn't.

[Pat]

For years and years, he's been attacking me, and it's one way. And he won't have me on. He's consistently not have me on, by the way.

[Adam]

I'm moving on.

[Pat]

I have no interest.

[Tom]

You're done with him.

[Pat]

Joe Rogan's the Facebook of podcasting. He was sitting across one of the. The brightest minds in podcasting right now. The guy was in the mic, and there are a lot of people at the mic doing extraordinary things. Pretty big audience still.

[Vinny]

He even says sitting across from him, confidence.

[Pat]

I didn't go there.

[Vinny]

He was gonna say Bill B.

[Pat]

Word to have me on. Well, you've called him a chicken, but he's been attacking for nobody. Here's the thing, these guys, they all have something in common. It's one way they attack, they belittle, they demean, they take things out of context. But this is a serious thing.

[Tom]

But enough about you.

[Pat]

And so often we just sit back and go, oh, God, I really would.

[Adam]

Love to go on.

[Pat]

Oh, If Kamala Harris just went on Joe Rogan, she would have won. It's not, it's so much deeper than that.

[Adam]

And the unwillingness for a guy like.

[Pat]

That to even have the common courtesy to attack someone and not have the D.C. say, you know what? Why don't you have a chance to. Come on, let's have a civil dialogue.

[Adam]

I've watched you on podcasts with like.

[Pat]

Sean Ryan, who's a close buddy of his. He had the curse on me four hours.

[Adam]

Four hours, right.

[Pat]

Sean Hannity, folks like that.

[Adam]

And so if I can go on.

[Pat]

Sean Ryan and Sean Hannity, what are you worried about?

[Adam]

What are you, Joe?

[Pat]

You're gonna cook me or I'm gonna cook myself.

[Adam]

This is what's called spiteful ex girlfriend energy. You ever break up with a girl and she just completely just like, oh, my God, I hate him so much. He's the worst. I would never get back with him. And then you call her and she's like, hey, what's up, honey? You're telling me if Joe Rogan doesn't call Gavin Newsom or Jamie is producer and goes, hey, we'd like to have you on. You think Gavin Newsom is going to say no?

[Pat]

Let me go to Tom. Go ahead, Tom. What do you think about this?

[Tom]

What I think about this is Gavin Newsom is trying to use reverse psychology on Rogan. He was trying to say, oh, well, you know, he's been spiting me. And he's. You called him a chicken. That's what Alex said to him. And he's trying to use the reverse psychology. Gavin Newsom is desperate, desperate, desperate to get on the Joe Rogan podcast and on other podcasts because they want to roll those clips together when it's time for all the campaign ads so they can look like man of the people, connected to everybody. That's the play here. There is a playbook that goes with the 2028 campaign that has launched a year and a half ago with Gavin Newsom when he got together and made sure that he could bait and drag Ron DeSantis into a second tier channel, ran their mini debate. Remember that? And so what's he doing there? This is a guy, Gavin Newsom, who has a playbook for media. He knows exactly what he wants to do and he's trying to belittle, bait and tug on Joe Rogan's team to get himself on there. But you know what? They're not having it. They're not interested.

[Pat]

Yeah. And look at the end of the day when he's doing this. I think a part of this is the following he wants to say when he runs for president. I asked to go there. I'm not like Kamala. I'm not afraid. I'm not this I even told him and he said he's not going to have me on. I'm not afraid of doing this. Any of this other stuff. Now on the other side, you know, he's a leading candidate for the Democratic party for president. 2028, the previous one. Kamala, here's what she just did. She sat down with yes yesterday. By the way, I really don't like doing Kamala clips. Not Jon Stewart. Go to the other one first. Rob is the one with the world class spin or misdirection or whatever. I really don't like putting clips of her. Not because, because I feel bad for the audience.

[Vinny]

I get it.

[Pat]

Because, because it truly is so hard to. I can listen to Newsom. So I'm not insulting. I can listen to Newsom. I can listen to Obama. I can listen. I can. It is so difficult to listen to her because she just, just folks, if you're eating, practice your mental toughness and emotional toughness for the next minute and a half. Go ahead, Rob. Rob, can you posit does he get into it fairly quickly? Because I don't want to play the whole thing. You know what I'm saying, where she stops him, boom, boom, boom. And then she okay, you're right, you're right. So go all the way to the beginning. It's just the first minute cuz it's a 2 minute 47. I don't want to go through the whole thing. Watch this, folks.

[Adam]

Wasn't Joe Biden then to put it.

[Pat]

On him, wasn't his refusal to recognize his own frailties the reason that you faced a nearly impossible task?

[Vinny]

I ran against Donald Trump for president and Donald Trump ran on a platform that was in large part, I believe, misrepresenting his intentions to the American people.

[Pat]

Hasn't asked any question yet.

[Vinny]

I do believe that there are a fair number of people that voted for Donald Trump who believed him when he told them that his first priority on day one is going to be to bring down prices. And he didn't. And you combine that misrepresentation.

[Pat]

Has been.

[Vinny]

Answered yet what was at play in.

[Pat]

Terms of she's eventually going to lose.

[Vinny]

The lady, forgive me, and a calendar in terms of the clock.

[Pat]

I want to interrupt you because that is a world class pivot, but it is not the question that I asked.

[Vinny]

Which is about Joe Biden's failure to.

[Pat]

Recognize his own frailties and what that did to you.

[Vinny]

The question is about Joe Biden.

[Pat]

Are you still reluctant to criticize the former president?

[Vinny]

In what regard?

[Pat]

Well, just in terms of that question.

[Vinny]

So you went on. That's exactly what you like to ask. She just asked, if you don't mind.

[Adam]

Was it Joe Biden's decision, his failure.

[Pat]

To recognize his own frailties in that.

[Adam]

Position, that put you in the position that made it almost impossible to win that race?

[Vinny]

He was not frail as president of the United States, but he had frailties.

[Pat]

We all saw the debate.

[Vinny]

I do believe that Joe Biden had the capacity to be president of the United States.

[Pat]

Pause right here.

[Vinny]

And I have never.

[Pat]

All right, so she said this to her. The lady holds her accountable. She goes on Jon Stewart. This is what John. John Stewart's like, what are you doing? And Jon Stewart is probably voted for her and try to help her out. Watch this here.

[Vinny]

I believe he was fully competent to serve.

[Pat]

Do you really? Yeah, I do that.

[Tom]

That surprises me, actually.

[Vinny]

No, I do. But there's a distinction to be made between running for president and being president.

[Pat]

What's the distinction?

[Vinny]

Well, being a candidate for president, United States, is about being in a marathon at a sprinter's pace, having tomatoes thrown.

[Pat]

At you every step you take.

[Tom]

That sounds lovely.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

It's more than a notion.

[Pat]

Get involved in public service.

[Vinny]

Ladies and gentlemen. Hello, President.

[Tom]

The sitting president.

[Vinny]

Pause it while doing that. And then you want to ask. And then you want to ask why she didn't do all those podcasts. Do you know why?

[Adam]

She.

[Vinny]

They shielded her.

[Pat]

She can't do it.

[Vinny]

She cannot do it. And we bet, like, she's horrible. She's horrible. And that's why they kept biting in the basement as well. They're either incompetent or they're incapable. You know, I mean, Biden and I just love.

[Tom]

And two weeks ago, she was upset with Biden.

[Vinny]

Yeah, exactly. It's just. It's unbelievable. But none of them. Karine Jean Pierre, by the way, they just released the. The intel committee, Pat. They released a bunch of depositions where even Kareem Jean Pierre, all of them are lying. They're all sitting there going, nah, I didn't. I didn't see a Pat, do you mind if I go really quick back to.

[Pat]

Go ahead.

[Vinny]

To Gavin Newsom. And I know we make fun of him, but I go after him a lot. We just made a statement.

[Tom]

We don't make fun of him. We point out discrepancies and Facts.

[Vinny]

I make fun of him, especially with his hands, because he lies. But I love that you said that too, Tom. You guys have to understand, make fun.

[Tom]

Of that, but that's.

[Vinny]

That's pretty accurate. Yeah, he's the front runner, guys. He's the front runner for 2028. Let's not lie about it. And you guys see what's happening with New York. The left is just voting. They'll vote for anybody that's not going to be the Republican. But I'm telling you guys, the moment they come in, they're going to destroy the country. And I'm not fearing people. I'm just letting you know. Think about. Ask Gavin Newsom, and nobody's asking Pat, if the moment you get in, what are you going to do with the border? They're going to open up the border because that's the same guy. And a couple days ago, he did something. I'm pretty sure you saw this, Pat. That infuriated me, and it disgusted me to a whole different level. He betrayed Charlie Kirk. And I don't know if. Adam, did you see this? Remember, you remember when he had him on his podcast and Charlie actually went to this guy's podcast, Sat down. Sat down with.

[Adam]

Technically, it might have been Gavin Newsom's first podcast.

[Vinny]

That was his, like, kickoff podcast. And Charlie agreed. Sat there, sat with, you know, quote, unquote, the enemy. He doesn't agree with any of his values. A guy who clearly doesn't have Gavin does not have God in his life. You know, obviously Charlie did, God rest his soul, and he still showed up. And this is. This is the admission of how amazed Gavin's son was. And he was such a fan. Play this, because I want to show the. What he just said a couple days ago. Go ahead, Rob.

[Adam]

Last night, trying to put my son to bed, he's like, no, Dad, I just.

[Pat]

What time.

[Adam]

What time is Charlie going to be here?

[Pat]

What time? And I'm like, dude, you're in school tomorrow. He's 13. He's like, no, no. This morning. Wakes up at 6 up, and he's like, I'm coming. I'm like, he literally would not leave the house. Did you let him take off school?

[Tom]

No, he did.

[Adam]

Of course not.

[Pat]

He's not here for a good reason.

[Vinny]

But the point is the canceled school for like, two years once.

[Adam]

One such a good line, which is, you are making.

[Vinny]

I'm making a. Okay, now you guys hear that? Now cut to Monday. Gavin's on cnn, and listen to what he says about his son and Charlie Kirk. Look at this, look at this turnaround.

[Pat]

That's your son, obviously a fan of Charlie Kirk. What was the conversation like between you and your son after Charlie Kirk was assassinated?

[Vinny]

He called me.

[Pat]

I don't know how he got a phone, but he called me from school that day really alarmed, and all his friends were around the phone that wanted me to somehow express or understand what was going on. He wanted to know if he was dead. He wasn't a fan of him as much as he was familiar with him.

[Vinny]

Like, like is it? How unbelievable. Your son Gavin wakes up and is ready to go at 6am begging to go meet the guy and hang out with him. And, and then now you play this whole this is why he's a lying freaking sociopath, that it drives me crazy how deceitful he is and he's going to be the front runner. So I, I, every chance I get to point out his lying and his character, I'm gonna do it. Horrible how, Tom, do you agree with that? Like, he was just familiar with him.

[Tom]

I agree with one thing, two things. I think the American voters can be swayed. And I think if you look at AOC and you look at Gavin Newsom, they're very savvy and they're capable of swaying a lot of voters.

[Pat]

Yes, I believe that.

[Tom]

I also believe, number two, that the mashup of the flip flops are going to be magnificent campaign ads and they're going to have to find a way to explain them. And if they're fair debates and they ask real questions, like the journalist, and I call her a journalist from the UK was interviewing and asking a question, doing journalistic research, asking a direct question and saying that's a world class pivot. I asked you this question and then getting Kamala to kind of get a little sparky there because she didn't want to answer it, that is what people need to see. So I hope that the flip flops and the mashups that we're going to see in the election, I hope it's real. But these people, these people are slick. And you're looking at a guy who's a very slick campaigner at the midst of it all, you know, somebody needs to sit down with them and just call it back and forth, call balls and strikes and see what this guy says in a fair minded, you know, fair minded situation. But he'll be all spun up, ready to turn those into fights.

[Adam]

Well, they're night and day. Kamala and Gavin. Kamala Harris reminds me of the scene from Billy Madison. I don't know if you have that, Rob, where they're doing the debate and the moderator, after Billy Madison gives his answer, is like, Mr. Madison, what you said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in the room is now dumber for having listened to it. That's. When you listen to Kamala, you're just like, did I get dumber? What just happened here? What was the whole time and space?

[Vinny]

Oh, God.

[Adam]

You're just. You're sitting there and she's rambling. Even PPD has to tell you to wear earmuffs before you get on. Gavin is the exact opposite.

[Pat]

He's very good.

[Adam]

Skilled as a politician as it gets. And it's slimy. Feel like you need to take a shower. Yet people are gonna vote for it and it's authentic, yet it's fake. Then he's gonna put on his little. He is so skilled. Anyone thinks that Gavin Newsom is not gonna be a realistic opportunity to be the President. The President of the United States, you get another thing coming. He's completely capable and he's completely fake.

[Tom]

And by the way, I gotta correct myself. Sarah Ferguson from ABC's international channel 7:30. She's Australian, not British. I just.

[Adam]

Tom, very.

[Pat]

Fact check.

[Adam]

It's going to be okay, Tom.

[Pat]

Don't ever make a mistake like that.

[Tom]

Well, I don't know with what's going on with the royalty.

[Adam]

Ferguson, you want me to cancel him?

[Tom]

Doesn't want to do it. I'll make. Sorry, Sarah, you're from Australia. Always have a call.

[Pat]

Let me just get into it. Tom, Sarah's gonna text you right afterwards and receive the apology. Okay, so Trump, China. Trump rates meeting with China Xi 12 out of 10 guys. It was that good on the meeting that took place, which was great. Okay. The fact that they're having a meeting is incredible. Rob, can you go to the meeting when they're shaking hands and they're first. You know, the. The. The. Is this it? The first time? Okay. This is when they just visit each other. I think this is two days ago. Go ahead, Rob, if you can play that clip. Go ahead.

[Vinny]

The President of the People's Republic of China. Look at that grip.

[Adam]

Oh, he gets.

[Vinny]

It's getting tighter. Good to see you again.

[Tom]

Good to see you again.

[Vinny]

It's hurting my hand.

[Tom]

And we're going to have a very successful meeting. I have no doubt.

[Pat]

But he's a very tough negotiator. That's not good.

[Adam]

Not good.

[Pat]

You know what? Look. He's giving.

[Adam]

She's giving.

[Pat]

Or Trump, she, she is given a look like, oh, my God, another American. Because you have to realize for them, they're not, they don't. They're not a flattery community.

[Vinny]

Oh, no, they're not going to be.

[Pat]

Like, honey, you did such a good job. Straight A's, or you're fired. As my son. Top of an environment. Right. Like the. And then afterwards, he's on Air Force One, the famous office. I don't know why he always does this meeting. Go ahead, Rob. Ask about how the meeting went. Go ahead. I think we've discussed mostly what we said, pretty comprehensive.

[Vinny]

We're going to issue a statement on.

[Pat]

Some of the details.

[Vinny]

But overall, I guess on the scale.

[Pat]

Of from 0 to 10, with 10.

[Vinny]

Being the best, I would say the meeting was a 12. I think it was a 12.

[Pat]

Very importantly, you know, just the whole.

[Vinny]

Relationship is very, very important.

[Pat]

And I think it was a great.

[Vinny]

Day, especially coming on the heels of the.

[Pat]

Tom.

[Tom]

Well, I think what Trump is trying to do is get the deal done and China is still going to be thinking long term. And on the other side of life, you have economy and then you've got defense, and you've got little leaks coming out about China going to help Iran or something. So you have those little leaks coming out. So you see, China's still playing this 3D chess, but I think the President made great progress economically. You had Besant over the week before. I believe they were in Malaysia. Wherever it was, they were not in China with the Chinese diplomats representing the economy. And I think that there's tremendous momentum that's coming along here. And I think we're about to hear about a giant soybean deal where China's gonna buy a lot of soybean from US Farmers. So I think there's multi points on this that are really good, that are going to move forward. And it's interesting, he says, look, now that we've met, now that we have some agreements, I'll take the, I'll take the tariffs back. Very simple. I'm not here to hurt you. I'm here to negotiate. And I like what we're hearing, but remember, China plays the long game. And so what you, you get over here, you got to keep an eye on them over there.

[Pat]

Yeah. So the decision was to lower the Chinese exports from 57 or 47%, which Trump said was because of Xi's commitment to decrease the flow of fentanyl. And on the, on the topic of that, when they talk about the things that they agreed on this and didn't agree on. This is the NBC News story. Fentanyl, Trump agreed, lowered the fentanyl tariffs on China 10 to 20%. Trump lowered fentanyl tariffs on China 10 to 20% effective immediately.

[Adam]

What?

[Pat]

10 from 20% effective immediately, marking total tariffs 47 to 50 cent. He trusts Xi will work very hard to stop fentanyl precursors. I think you're going to see a big difference. He said about the meeting with China rare earth minerals, which is what just Tom talked about. China imposed exports controls on rare earth for magnets and turbines and EVs as a trade chip. Trump and Xi agreed to a one year reprieve, likely routinely extended. All of a rare earth has been settled and that's for the world. So that's one. Soybeans. What Tom just talked about. Ukraine, US And China will work together on Ukraine war. Ukraine came up very strongly. We talked about it for a long time. We're both going to work together to see if we can get something done. And then Nvidia, no discussion on relaxing Blackwell chip export curbs. We're not talking about Blackwell chips. Trump said US allows limited H20 GPU exports to China. So let me tell you what I think is going on here. You know, you've probably heard when Trump makes a comment about Rubio, Rubio's got two big jobs right now. One of the jobs he's got is the job of Henry Kissinger. Okay. And you'll hear Trump will say, I believe Rubio is better than Henry Kissinger by the time he's going to be done. Because Henry Kissinger used to leak. He was known as a leaker. Who was known as. You didn't hear that when he said, Rob, do you have that clip when he, you remember this clip I'm talking.

[Vinny]

About, Rob, like tell it. Like tell everybody everything.

[Pat]

So he, he calls. Go ahead, Tom.

[Tom]

He had two key contacts that we found out after he passed away with the New York Times. And he was a professional leaker. And it was, he was a real son of a bitch on that end. He may have been a negotiator, a good secretary of state, but the people in Washington, you tell, a lot of people say there was another part of Henry Kissinger that was all about himself and he would leak things left and right.

[Pat]

Okay, so Trump calls him a leaker. I think this is it. Yeah. Is it called ego? Exactly. This is a plated clip. This is him talking about Rubio.

[Vinny]

We need that brain on occasion.

[Pat]

We got to get Jared in here. We got to get a certain group of people. But Steve started this all by himself. I call him Henry Kissinger. Who doesn't leak. Henry is a big leaker.

[Adam]

He leaked.

[Pat]

So he's complimentary with wit. Coffee said similar things about Rubio's as well. And so when you go back and think about what Kissinger did, Kissinger followed a guy whose name was Bismarck. Bismar was the previous Auto von Bismar. Auto von Bismarck, back in the day of Germany. Yeah, the Second Reich, which sounds bad, but it's the, you know, and so in the 1800s, yeah, he was dealing with, you know, a handful of countries that he was always having issues with, and he was never the biggest. So you're dealing with Austria, you're dealing with Hungary, you're dealing with France, you're dealing with Italy, you're dealing with Russia. And he had this, you know, triangular diplomacy that he would follow to have relationship. You, you always, you always want if you're the strongest, which America is? China. Second, Third is Russia. Triangular diplomacy is befriend this guy to eliminate this guy. Okay, so meaning Trump tried really hard to get good with Putin, to build that relationship with Putin, but Putin didn't play ball with them. So then what does Trump do? If you take Trump, U.S. russia and Ukraine, who would that be? In triangular diplomacy, who should he get closer to? If it's US, Russia and Ukraine, who should he team up against? The other. It's US And Ukraine against Russia. Yes, but in US China, Russia, it's who? It's US And Russia against China. But Putin's not playing ball. So Putin is not playing ball. Now he's going to go, okay, you want to do this? Guess what? I'm going to go and develop a stronger relationship with China. And now he's doing this with China, and he's forcing everybody to leave Putin on an island. The one question that you often get asked is the following. Why did Nixon get off the gold standard?

[Vinny]

Why?

[Pat]

Why did Nixon get off the gold standard? Do you realize since 1971, every, every single thing can be positioned back to 1971, when we got off the gold standard, everything that. That just blew up. Everything blew up since 19. But the reason why they did that at that time, and Nixon went and opened up China. There's only one reason why they went and opened up China in 1970. Rob, can you type up who were the top 10 biggest GDPs in the world in 1970. Adam, Vinnie, who are the top 10 biggest GDPs in THE world in 1919 70?

[Adam]

US was number one.

[Pat]

Okay, who's two?

[Adam]

I would put Japan up there. I would put Russia.

[Vinny]

Russia for that. Then they're still up there.

[Adam]

I don't know.

[Vinny]

Top 10.

[Pat]

Yeah. The US was one, Japan was two. Look at that, Vinnie. Germany.

[Adam]

Germany's up there, right?

[Pat]

UK, Italy, Canada, all the G7 countries. Canada was bigger than China. Yeah, think about that. Canada's bigger than China. Go a little bit higher up. Go a little bit higher. There's one country that's not on there, though. Ussr. Okay. Ussr. And by the way, ussr.

[Adam]

Communism was.

[Pat]

Was. So he's sitting there wondering, you know, what's going on with Russia and the communist regime moving. Nixon decides to go out there and team up with who? Little China.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

China had the biggest military, but they didn't have the biggest gdp. They go and help China to equalize. Who? Russia.

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Pat]

And what ends up happening? They created the enemy. China got bigger than Russia. And in China's words at today. So to me, Trump right now is trying to do triangular diplomacy. And the better person that would have been a better partner for him to go against China would have been Putin. But Putin's not playing ball. In my opinion, it would have been better for us to be closer to Russia, to hold China accountable than the other way around. And it didn't work. And, you know, you don't want everybody to be getting along and you also don't want to have a good relationship with both of the parties because you can't hold the other one accountable. Everybody is ambitious, everybody is motivated, but he's going through a challenge right now. He's really. The entire time, while he's talking, guess who he's talking to. Guess who he knows is watching everyone. He's doing. He's watching Putin. And you know what Putin does when he sees this taking place? Here's what Putin does. Oh, really? Okay, no problem. Let me drop some crazy ass news, Mr. Trump. Okay, so what does he do? Here's what Putin does. Putin comes out and drops what news? Here's the news. And Tom, I'm coming to you with this one here. Putin drops the news saying that Russia is officially testing Poseidon nuclear torpedo capable of destroying cities with radioactive tsunamis. This is New York Post just two days ago. Rob, is this the clip of what they're testing?

[Tom]

Yeah, it's an animation of what the.

[Pat]

Okay, this is not what they're testing. This is what they have just to show you what's capable, capable of doing. Go ahead, Rob.

[Vinny]

The music isn't helping.

[Pat]

Okay. You, I'm sure you're reading that, Vinnie.

[Vinny]

I got, I got you, I got you.

[Pat]

Okay.

[Vinny]

Everybody's going to die. You're going to die.

[Pat]

Okay. Okay.

[Vinny]

Missile, launch, submarine.

[Pat]

So that guy goes. And then look what this guy does. He just dropped this two days ago. Why are you showing this to the world? Yeah, okay. Why do you want the world to know this is your capability? Why? Okay, great. Music killing people. Yes.

[Vinny]

Those are our aircraft carriers. That, that's the design.

[Pat]

What else is it capable of doing?

[Adam]

Boom.

[Pat]

Look at that. And I love how he put some music.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

To make it softer. And look at that.

[Pat]

1600 foot waves.

[Vinny]

Hope Trump's team makes a video Going.

[Pat]

Back 200 meters is what, Tom? 200 meters? Each meter is three feet. So 200 meters. So a little over. So six, six. Let me just read this to you to see what they're doing. So why is, why is Putin doing this? Why is Putin doing this? What, what's he trying to say? What's he trying to tell people? Okay, so Putin drops that. Okay. On a nuclear Poseidon capable of leveling coastal cities with 1600 foot high radioactive tsunamis. 1600ft is roughly 160 story buildings coming at you. And while he's doing this, not much is publicly known about Poseidon. Reports estimate that the weapon is capable of carrying two megaton warhead, or more than 150 times the power of a bomb the US dropped on Hiroshima. Vinny. 150 times stronger than what we dropped in Hiroshima in 1945. They are designed to trigger radioactive tsunamis of up to 1600ft from hundreds of miles away, according to Russia state media. That's what he announces. And what does President Trump come out and say all of a sudden? What, Tom, what does President Trump come out say all of a sudden?

[Tom]

Well, we're going back to testing and we're going to do a whole lot of testing. We got, we got great, great nuclear program. Wonderful, smart nuclear scientists. That's wonderful. Best in the world. Some of them, my God, some of these wonderful people are great. And we're going to talk back and talk.

[Pat]

This is what he says. We have more nuclear weapons than anybody. We don't do testing. We've halted it years, many years ago. But with others doing testing, I think it's appropriate that we do also.

[Vinny]

It was it.

[Pat]

Okay, so when was the meeting with Xi?

[Adam]

Just this week.

[Pat]

But what day? What day? Give me a Day. What day was it, Rob, when was the meeting?

[Vinny]

Was two days.

[Tom]

Wednesday.

[Pat]

Wednesday, I think. Wednesday. Okay. And when?

[Tom]

Our Wednesday, right?

[Pat]

That's right, our Wednesday, October 30th. Which is yesterday.

[Adam]

Yes.

[Pat]

Okay. Do you know, do you know when Putin announced this testing?

[Vinny]

When?

[Pat]

Do you know when the announcement?

[Vinny]

Thursday.

[Pat]

No, no, a day before. Oh. Which is like, hey, right before your meeting.

[Vinny]

Okay.

[Pat]

I want you to know what we have that we got going on. Okay. So, Tom, your thoughts? Okay. With everything that's going on right now with Russia, China, how do you think this is being managed and who and what country you think is preventing the negotiation from going smoother?

[Tom]

Well, first of all, Russians interfering here and Russia's doing it deliberately. You had China in the days leading up to the South Korea summit where Trump and xi met. Live101. And by the way, never mind, there was a whole bunch of South Korea positive announcements that were made. But Russia is the one that's meddling here. Russia is putting it out there because they know that we are with Ukraine this week and trying to get the war stopped there. And we know that Russian stuff and Chinese stuff have made it to Iran. And that's annoying to us trying to get peace in the Middle east because Iran turns around and repurposes that stuff in their support of anything that begins with H. And so Russia making an announcement ahead of time is, it's like, let's say you got Vinnie, let's say you got divorced. You were, and you were a divorced person. And your wedding's going to be on Saturday.

[Pat]

Okay.

[Tom]

And your ex wife who's giving you complete crap about the custody of the kids.

[Pat]

I met her on Friday.

[Tom]

On Friday she makes a big announcement, I'm pregnant with twins, and emails it to everybody. So you're going to your wedding and you got your two little girls there with you.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Tom]

Custody for the weekend. They're gonna be in your wedding. And then people start asking them, oh, you're gonna have little sisters, isn't that great? That's what Russia's doing. They're throwing announcements down.

[Pat]

I honestly didn't get any of that story.

[Vinny]

But I, I, I'm.

[Adam]

What's your point, Tom?

[Vinny]

First of all, my ex would something like that. So he's right.

[Tom]

Your testing announcement a day before, whose.

[Pat]

Kids are the twins? That's what I want to know.

[Vinny]

I already have two kids. But she's lying and saying that you.

[Adam]

Never called them, you didn't pay the child support.

[Pat]

I'm so happy.

[Vinny]

Little susie and little 18 years.

[Adam]

18 years. And on the 18th birthday you found.

[Pat]

It was I'm here talking about triangular diplomacy. Talking. Tom's talking about twins diplomacy.

[Adam]

I know what four woman.

[Tom]

So think about it. Think about it this way. The US does have a relationship with Russia.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Tom]

We're trying to negotiate through it. We're trying to make that a better relationship. We're trying to end the Ukraine war.

[Pat]

Yep.

[Tom]

At the same time, Russia's got this gas and energy deal that they've tried to do with both India and China, mostly China. And so in the midst of us getting together with China, Putin doesn't want us to have any sort of the ice thaw on the relationship with China. None whatsoever. So he's happy to make our Poseidon torpedo could wreak havoc and everything on there. And Trump just says in Air Force One, well, if other people are going to go back to testing and announcing things, maybe we should go back to testing too. By the way, we have more nukes than anybody in the world and we have more technology.

[Pat]

I love.

[Tom]

So okay, well, if that's where it's going to be, that's where it's going to be.

[Pat]

Adam, thoughts?

[Adam]

A couple of things here. Number one, you talked about Henry Kissinger. The whole thing that Henry Kissinger did was he practiced something called realpolitik. He wasn't idea, it wasn't an ideologue. He was basically dealing with how can we neutralize the issue that is now the Cold War. That was at the height of the Cold War, I think it was when Henry Kissinger was at the height of his, of his power. And in geopolitics you needed to neutralize Russia by awarding China these benefits of working with America and opening up trade. And that was part of the reason the Nixon gold standard, appeasement to China and using China as a counterbalance to Russia. Now it's not even close. I mean if you look at the most powerful countries in the world, Rob, I sent you a couple different links. It's USA number one, China number two. Russia is as strong as Singapore apparently in this, in this graph right here if you scroll up, Russia is a big slow moving nation a little bit.

[Pat]

And Ray Dalio ranked these guys.

[Adam]

Is this Ray Dalio?

[Pat]

Yeah, it says Ray Dalio ranked the strength of nations by assessing metrics like gdp, world trade, education, military strength. So it's not just military strength. This is based on overall. So if it's military strength, Rob, if you can go to it, it's something else. But let me just look at this. If you don't mind. Let me just look at this, if you don't mind. So he put us first. He. But he is such a big pro China guy. Continuously.

[Vinny]

Really?

[Pat]

Oh, from the first meeting we had, it's been all pro. China, Eurozone. He put three. Germany, Japan, South Korea, India. He put seventh. Interesting to put India seventh. Uk, France, Russia. He put. Okay, Singapore, Australia. Yeah, I mean, if he's talking puriconda. What.

[Adam]

What is it, Rob, if we can highlight this, what is the blue versus the, the white component? It's like what your capacity is. Total strength, per capita strength.

[Pat]

Gotcha.

[Adam]

So what's interesting about this is if you could scroll down. I mean, what. Who is the most allied with US and China? If you just want to go real quick, the Eurozone is with us. Hold on, Rob, you're going a little too fast, my friend. Germany's with us, Japan's with the US South Korea is with us. India mostly with the US mostly.

[Pat]

50, 50 UK.

[Adam]

What do you mean, 50, 50. Oh, India bricks.

[Pat]

Are you like.

[Adam]

Well, yeah, but they're more aligned with us than they are with China. Okay, you have Russia. We'll throw that to, to China. You got Singapore. I would throw that in the, in the, in the US Category. Australia, Canada, Turkey, sort of in the, in the NATO. You know, they're, they're definitely running opposite. But the point is this. The most powerful countries in the world, the most military capable countries in the world, the most economically advanced countries in the world are all aligned with America. We should rest easy at night knowing that.

[Pat]

Can you pull up the nuclear thing while he's talking about this? And Adam, I'm really curious to know where you're going to go with this. Can you pull up the nuclear warhead? And I want to turn it over to Adam. Humberto just pulled it up. Send it. So this is total strength. But if you think about nuclear strength of where Russia's at, this is where they rank. Okay. And this is statista. So statista is not a politically left or right. They just give you the data. Russia's number one when it comes on to nuclear weapons as of January of 2025, then it's US. Then it's China, France, UK, India, Pakistan, Israel, North Korea and others. So go ahead, continue.

[Adam]

Yeah, I mean, the whole thing with Russia is, yes, nuclearly we should be fearful of them, but everything else other than that has been a complete paper tiger. We've been told for years we have to worry about Iran. We have to worry about Iran. Iran is as weak as it gets. I mean, they just got exposed by Israel like that. Russia, you know, you might want to call it the funding and the military systems by NATO and the eu, what have you. But Russia can't even take you territory from Ukraine. So Russia is not as big, as bad as we maybe would have thought. And they have this nuclear cloud hanging over us and the world saying, don't make us hit this button. Don't make us hit this button. The reality is they're probably not going to hit the button because it's mutually exclusive extermination.

[Pat]

You know what I think about when I think about Russia and Ukraine?

[Adam]

What?

[Pat]

Here's what I think about. I think. You ever see these guys that go into boxing that are massive bodybuilders, who are £320, and then they go fight a small guy, 180, nimble, fast, quick, I think.

[Adam]

And they get their ass whooped.

[Pat]

And they get their asses whooped. The big guy gets their asses.

[Adam]

Yes, of course.

[Pat]

But the point I'm trying to make to you is what do big guys have that with one connection? The other guy's going to sleep.

[Adam]

They got a knockout, they got one.

[Pat]

Punch nuclear, and that's the nuclear. So Russia can choose to destroy Ukraine with their nuke nuclear arsenal, but they can't because they know if they do, everyone's going to come after them, of course. And Ukraine knows that you're not going to use it. So the part of you, you know.

[Adam]

You also have something called nuclear fallout. I'm far from a nuclear physicist. That's Tom's job. But if you drop a nuclear bomb, it's going to billow and smoke and go everywhere. But it's going to be nuclear fallout all over Russia.

[Pat]

And you know what?

[Adam]

Am I wrong?

[Pat]

You know what? Ukraine is embarrassing Russia with everything. Drones.

[Vinny]

Oh, yes.

[Pat]

Small little 500 drones. They're flying 500 drones into tanks and they're blowing them up. If you look at one data here, Adam, that's the most concerning. What's the one data there? Look at the plus minus since last year. Who's the biggest plus minus? China grew by 100 nuclear weapons just in 12 months. That's pretty. Hello, hello, Hello. We are quietly increasing. Tom, thoughts.

[Tom]

That's new generation.

[Pat]

That's right. That's the better kind.

[Tom]

Correct. Because the total number of Russia's warheads, you have to look at the generations of them, they have warheads that are smaller, that were five on the, on the tip, as they say, where when they launch the rocket, then five of them Drop into an area like when you're in a war and you've got the theater of battle, they could do it. And so there's a big count in that. You got to respect the 4309. But what China did, that's 100 of the super modern stuff with the deployment system. When you say deployment system, it's rockets that are big enough and accurate enough to go from here to there to put the weapon down. What North Korea has never had is a reliable deployment system. That's why you see them launching the rockets that they launch into the ocean near Japan. And Japan always picks up the 911 and says to the US they're doing it again, and they launch these rockets. What they're doing is they're trying to test and perfect their deployment system, because North Korea is just a little squeaky little voice until they get accurate rockets, missiles that can send the warhead from here to here. Yeah, but China's stuff is the advanced stuff, and that's what's nerve wracking.

[Pat]

You better recognize. You better recognize with China.

[Adam]

For me, this real, real quick, China is the big. This is the gold medal of Trump's complete deal. I mean, he wanted to get in and out of the Middle east so he can pivot to China. Everyone knows that he thought that he would end the Ukrainian war, Russia, Ukraine war, so he can pivot to China. Everybody in his administration understands you have to pivot to China. They are the people that you need to deal with. They're the people. Whether it's tariffs, trades, fentanyl, agriculture, chips, these rare earth minerals, soybeans, supply chains. What does Russia have that we want to concern with? Number one, we want to end this war. They have oil and natural gas, and they have caviar and vodka. Russia is no longer a threat. Maybe nuclearly, China is the threat that we need to deal with. And as soon as we can end this nonsense in Russia and pivot to China would be incredible.

[Pat]

That may be right, but you need. And because of that, the better person to team up with is Russia, because China doesn't necessarily need you as much as Russia does. That's the part where it's, you know, Trump, the way he was with Xi, it was good, but he wasn't as strong as he typically is. Why? Because Xi knows what's going on. And Xi, behind closed doors, is also doing his own game to cause Putin to distance himself from the States. Now, the one thing about China, when you think about their history, the way they like things, they like things to be fairly calm. They're not trying to get, they just want to get so strong when it's fairly calm. But I don't know. I think behind closed doors, Xi is like this to Putin. Oh, for sure she's like this to Putin.

[Adam]

Well, you made a really good point about that, that Xi does not respond to flattery. Like, if you take a look at what Trump was able to do in the Middle East, a lot of these strong men, these autocrats, these people in the Middle east, they, they succumb just like Trump almost to flattery and like there's something in it for them. What he did with, with Erdogan, he's gonna give him this. What he did with Sisi in Egypt. There's no flattery to a piece sheet.

[Pat]

Yeah. Let's go to next story. Let's go to next story. Next story I want to get into is ba ba, ba ba ba. Let me see which one I'm going to get into. Let me see which one I want to get into. Let's go to Mamdani.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Pat]

New York City mayoral candidate mother says he's not American at all. Mamdani's mother said he's not American at all. So what is she talking about? This guy is American. He loves America. You know, he loves, you know, capitalism. He loves people being able to make money and having their dreams become a reality. But apparently the mother of New York City socialist mayoral candidate Mamdani gave an interview when he was 21 year old American college student, discussing how her son is not an American at all, while using terminology that some view as derogatory towards the United States. He is a total desi, filmmaker Mira Nair told the Hindustan Times in 2013 when her son Mamdani was 21 years old at the time I'm done, he was attending Bao Doin College where he co founded a school, Students for Justice in Palestine chapter and was pushing for academic sanctions against Israel. Completely. We are not fear ranks at all. He is very much us. He is not an American at all. He was born in Uganda, raised between India and America, and he is at home in many places. He thinks of himself as a Ugandan and as an Indian in Hindu and Urdu. Ferang is an informal term historically used to describe foreigners or Westerners. But Meg Cook, an attorney born in India who serves as a GOP consultant and commentator, told Fox News Digital the word is not some harmless cultural term, but rather a slur. It's the word used back in India to mock outsiders, to say, you don't Belong. Cook said, using it here about your own child raised in the United States carries the same tone as calling someone a derogatory word or words. It's flipping divisive and dripping with contempt for the very country that gave your family a better life. Okay, and while this is going on, the MTA boss Lieber slams Mamdani's free bus pledge. Rob, if you want to play this clip any time, I want to come to you on this.

[Vinny]

While he appreciates the focus on affordable transit in the campaign, MTA chairman Jano.

[Pat]

Lieber says any proposal, scale and complexity needs to be seen, studied.

[Vinny]

And studying making buses free citywide would be much more expansive than studying Zahran Mamdani's pilot program for a free bus.

[Pat]

Route in each borough. It would have to look at the, you know, the implications of not one bus in each borough, but it would.

[Vinny]

Have to look at the implications on the entire system. They'd look at bus fare revenue impacts.

[Pat]

Adding buses and drivers, and impacts on MTA bondholders. Macrozenberg's 1010 wins on 92.3fm. Tom, is there any chance, and I mean any chance that Cuomo could beat Mamdani?

[Tom]

There is a chance, but it is so remote, you would need the people that are supporting him to suddenly become so fearful that they're not going to get their free stuff and become not upset with establishment United States the way they've been taught to be upset and to hate it. The people that were born in the US Are voting for Cuomo. The people that are immigrants and are not from here are with Mandami. And they brought so much of that into New York that right now it would take a cataclysmic event for the foreign born population to say, you know what, I don't think he's gonna be able to get me everything for free. We're not gonna get the bus for free. We're not gonna get housing, we're not gonna get this, we're not get that. You know what? I can't do this. And to suddenly kind of go the other way. But right now, he's all about victim. Look what he was doing. He was telling a victim story about his aunt and he was lying about it. Oh, she was such a victim. This is what happened public, you know, and so right now, I don't think.

[Pat]

There'S a chance, actually just texted it to you if you want to use that. That's got all of it in it.

[Tom]

I don't think there's a reasonable chance that he could lose this Election, I think there is a chance. But, man, people have to wake up and see that he is a snake oil salesman and that he's lying to you. So the people that believe you're gonna get something, look at this. He's lying about his aunt. You've got the people that run the buses who are Democrats and have been Democrats forever with union bus drivers are saying, this doesn't work. The math doesn't work. How are we going to do this? So I just look at that. Look at the unions that are behind the bus service and all of that. Those aren't Republicans. Those aren't buddies going back with the. With. With Lee Zeldin and people like that from New York who are conservative Republicans. These are not friends of the Republicans. And they're out there saying what he's saying about the buses, that isn't going to work, and that's not going to happen. So how much. And I think when I see that, Pat, when I see just that glimpse from the mta, you know what it is? People are waking up to the fact says, you know what? We could be looking at a really bad outcome here, that what could happen to the city could be really bad. And I think you're seeing little people wake up. But is there enough time in the next, what, nine days or whatever it is?

[Pat]

By the way, this is the greatest highlight reel of what things he said that contradicts what things he said. Go ahead, Rob.

[Vinny]

Very clearly, I will not defund the police. I am in favor of defunding the police. I want to speak to the memory of my aunt who stopped taking the subway after September 11th because she did not feel safe in her hijab. I was speaking about Zehrafui, my father's cousin. Father's cousin, not your father. I don't really have opinions about the future of Hamas and Israel beyond the question of justice and safety. The struggle for Palestinian liberation was at the core of my politics and continues to be. I am not and nor have I ever called for the legalization of prostitution.

[Pat]

You support decriminalizing prostitution?

[Vinny]

Yes. My fundamental belief that sex work is work.

[Adam]

That is haram, bro.

[Vinny]

I would be happy to work with the president and the administration. What we need to be doing here in our city is to end the chapter of collaboration between City hall and the federal government. I don't believe that the role of the mayor is to police speech. There are consequences for speaking up in favor of apartheid. I love the bang. I want to say it very clearly.

[Pat]

Adam, thoughts?

[Vinny]

I will not defund them.

[Adam]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, does anybody in New York even watch this kind of stuff? Sorry about this.

[Vinny]

Oh, yeah, I don't care.

[Adam]

Clearly the guy is just talking out of both sides of his mouth. You got to respect the fact that he's a crisis actor and nothing that you said should be taken seriously. But I'll say this, I'm going to give a shout out to Tom here who teach us about upstream and downstream. And in elections, there's up ballot and down ballot. So what I would say to New York is good luck, guys, with your new socialist communist mayor. Congratulations. If Cuomo doesn't pull it off, you're gonna have this mayor. And best of luck to you. What I care about is local politics because we've been so obsessed with what's going on in New York, what's even going on federally, that we forget that we're having local elections in America. So in Michigan, they're having elections. In Minnesota, they're having elections in Ohio, In Miami, Florida, we're having elections. And what's interesting that I've been paying attention to the Miami beach race, we have a mayor in Miami beach called Steven Miner who's done a great job cleaning up Miami Beach. And we have this challenger, almost like the Mamdani Effect, who's. They're calling her the Mamdani Beach. She's trying to make Miami beach mom Donnie Beach. Her name is Kristen Rosen Gonzalez, and she's basically anti small business. She's pro defunding the police, she's weak on crime. And it's very interesting to see the down ballot of what's happening here. The Mamdani Effect is taking over the Democratic Party all around the world, all around the country. So it might not affect you what Mamdani's doing in New York. Who cares? Good luck. But it might affect you in Miami. Might affect you in Miami beach, it might affect you in Ohio, it might affect you in Michigan. We see this Somali pirate, the guy that's running for mayor of Minnesota. So it's like, at what point in America are we going to take a look and say, do you love America? Do you stand for American values? Do you want to help small businesses? Do you want to help fund the police? Not defund the police or you the mom Donnie, who says out loud, I'm pro Palestine, I'm anti police, I'm pro prostitution. And then the next month he's like, I love Israel. I like completely lying. I love the police, completely lying. So the two faced thing. So in Miami, that's what I'm concerned about. I'm in Florida. That's what I'm concerned about. So I'm helping the current mayor of Miami try to defeat this, you know, communist leftist in Miami. But you need to do your part in your city. New York is probably going to fail us. But you need to do your part in other cities all around.

[Vinny]

Where is he from? Where was he born? Pat?

[Adam]

Uganda.

[Vinny]

Well, okay, here's my question. I might be crazy. If the President of the United States has to be born in America, why shouldn't the same rule apply for every political position? Think about it like if you're being born here matters for national security and everything. Why would we ever let anybody else from any other country run the show? Think about that. They obviously. They're like some Trojan horses.

[Pat]

They're.

[Vinny]

They're telling you what they are. They're lying to us. If it applies for the.

[Adam]

You need to be born in America to serve in any capacity in government.

[Vinny]

Political mayors. Adam. But guess what? Because it's not. Look what you're going to get. You're getting people from different countries coming in to run the city. Adam. And it's just starting. They're waving a flag of a foreign nation. The guy for the guy from Minneapolis, Rob. Is that the guy?

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Tom]

The Somalia. The.

[Vinny]

Adam. They're playing their song.

[Adam]

30 year old candidate they run. Let me take issue with that.

[Vinny]

Where's your loyalty?

[Adam]

Some of the people that love America.

[Pat]

Pull up the most. Can you pull up that clip?

[Adam]

Some of the people that love America the most are immigrants. I just look at PBD for a second. You're saying that PBD should not run for any form of government.

[Vinny]

No. No.

[Adam]

Because this is. Someone who came from Iran under your qualification should never run for anything, but loves America and. And does more for anybody.

[Vinny]

You think Pat would wave an Iranian flag during a.

[Adam]

No, but that's my point. In America.

[Vinny]

But guess what? He's not going against American values. He's not going. He's not. By the way. He's not a Christian. Yeah, I know. I understand. But guess what? And what's it. What's the what? What does he have in common? What does Mamdani have in common? They're in a Christian nation playing that Muslim stuff. And guess what? I'm sorry, I'm not comfortable with it. It's not. Yeah, I don't put a lot of.

[Adam]

I agree with you. I just hear you.

[Vinny]

We are a Christian nation. You have a freaking guy waving a flag of a different country. In my country. And what do you think is going to happen? What do you think the Bomb Donnie effect is happening? And you're about to feel it in Miami, you know, I mean, it's ridiculous.

[Pat]

By the way, let me see this. Let me see this clip of this guy. What's he saying? He's saying, I love America. He's waving the miracle. Go ahead, Rob. Yeah, that's over.

[Adam]

Somalia. Somalia.

[Pat]

Hiran State.

[Adam]

Early voting was November 4th.

[Vinny]

I need your vote.

[Tom]

I need you.

[Vinny]

You would think he's there.

[Adam]

Hadan Otkina. Hello. We're gonna win.

[Pat]

Where is this at?

[Vinny]

Minneapolis.

[Adam]

In Minneapolis, Minnesota. Can I tell you how many rallies I've been to similar to this?

[Vinny]

Okay.

[Adam]

In Miami, just like, they have a little Mogadisha. The Somalian community. Yeah, we have a massive Cuban community. Just like how in Glendale. In Glendale, there's a massive Armenian community I've been to. Like, my. The first political event that I've actually donated was Mayor Francis Suarez. He's Cuban. His father was Cuban. Half the people there are Cuban. They're not waving Cuban flags. They're waving American flags saying, we as Cuban Americans love American values. They don't get up on stage and say, hola, Comas me amigo, me gente, que paso. Oh, yo necesito. Like, they're like, we love America. Let's keep America the way it is. We have to flee Cuba. We have to flee. Free Fidel. We love America. That's the challenge is the Democratic Party is embracing every single other flag other than the American flag. When you get here, the whole premise is, sure, you can love your country, you can have your flag, but there's only one flag that we wave here, and it's America. You don't get up on stage and not wear the. You're waving a Somali flag. That's the problem. So I understand where you're coming from.

[Vinny]

Because if the president. Think about it, if the highest position has to be American born, I mean, why doesn't the standard go across the board? Because, Adam, look, it's taking the time, and now it's coming, bro. There's no more talking about this.

[Adam]

It's here in the Constitution about representatives.

[Pat]

To me, to be honest with you, to me, it's more denomination. To me, it's more religion than it is about born here or not. To me, it's about if you are waving and you're, you know, you want to bring that here, I think that's going to be the enemy long term. I've said this express myself multiple times on this topic. But let me get to next story. Your next story I want to get to is following Bill Gates shifts tone on climate change criticizes doomsday view drawn mixed reaction. Rob, if you want to play this clip. So here's Bill Gates. Watch this. Go forward. Climate is a super important problem. There's enough innovation here to avoid super bad outcomes. We won't achieve our best goal, the 1.5 or even the 2 degrees. And as we go about trying to minimize that, we have to frame it in terms of overall human welfare. Not just everything should be solely for climate. How much of your own view is.

[Vinny]

A function of just contextually what's happening.

[Pat]

In the world versus what I think.

[Vinny]

You'Ve thought for a long time about the climate? Well, if the aid budgets to poor.

[Pat]

Countries were continuing to go up, they did over the last 25 years, then the trade offs between climate action and saving children's lives wouldn't be as acute as it is now that these budgets are going down and going down quite a bit. And so the plea here is to say, okay, let's take that very limited money and not have some partitioned off for particular causes. Let's measure it all in terms of the, the human welfare. How do, how do you help those countries? So you have that and then President Trump comes out and says, Rob, if you have that clip, it's actually a tweet. Yeah. He says, I, we just won the war on climate change. Bill Gates has finally admitted that he was completely wrong on the issue. It took courage to do so and for that we are grateful. So, okay, what are you thinking? I mean, listen, for me, that's a.

[Vinny]

Huge, like, that's a huge shift.

[Pat]

If you go, Rob, find old, old clips of Bill Gates talking about climate change. There are some, there's even A clip from 2004, 2005, I believe, of, you know, him talking about depopulation is the biggest issue that he did an interview with CNN and CNN didn't bring it back up. This is what I'm thinking. This is what I'm thinking. I'm thinking there's a reason why they're not releasing the Epstein files. That's what I'm thinking. Because what were the chances of Bill Gates coming out and saying this if I had you on cowshi, okay. And I said to you a year ago, what are the chances that President Trump is going to get Bill Gates to come to the table sitting right next to Melania Trump and Bill Gates is going to say climate change is not an issue anymore. What would you have said a year and a half ago? What would you have said? Be honest. What percentage would you have said?

[Tom]

I want to know what odds you were giving me. But I'd be like, no, this guy is sold out to that.

[Pat]

Yeah, exactly. That's not going to happen. Okay. Yeah. So then why does it all of a. All of a sudden happen? Why is that? Maybe because he's sitting on so much intel that he is convinced. I'm convinced. That's what Bongino and Cash Patel bought into. They said, who is the enemy? Dan. And he asked Dan. Dan gave him a list of people that are the enemy. If those are the enemies and we know we have this on them, why release it? We'll be able to control them for the next 30 years. Isn't that what J. Edgar Hoover did with others? Isn't that what the mob did with J. Edgar Hoover? The mob knew what J. Edgar Hoover was doing and they controlled him.

[Adam]

Cross dressing.

[Pat]

Yeah, they knew. And back then it was a big deal. Nowadays you get a Purple Heart. You know, it's a very different climate we're living in today versus then. So to me, the only way somebody this dramatically makes a 180, there has to be something to have on you. I don't think it's like, oh, you know what? I had dinner with the President. What a nice guy. Yeah, you know what? I don't know what you're saying about him. This guy's not as mean as you say. He is so sweet.

[Vinny]

Bill.

[Pat]

No trail is the sweetest guy. Bill, wait.

[Vinny]

You don't wake up.

[Tom]

Wait a minute, wait a minute. There's a page 22 of this report.

[Vinny]

Something's changed in you.

[Tom]

Oh, it ain't so bad.

[Pat]

Yeah, no, man, I think these are the types of things that everybody is playing. Lower level management and podcasts and opinion and then at the higher level, stuck. Look, guys, if I ever make it to heaven, which I don't think I will, maybe I'll tell you all about it over a game of backgammon. And you finally realize, till then, you will never know, son. Yeah, because you're not at this level. Yeah, just enjoy and panic and do whatever you're doing and watch all the fear porn while we run the world and run the country. And then one day, if you ever get a job like this, you'll know what this looks like. But these are some of the things they're going to have to do, because these are some of the things the enemy does to you as well. I think that's what's going on here. That's my speculation.

[Adam]

Let me make sense what you're saying. You're saying that they traded their political weight around the Epstein file to say, oh, let me dangle this here. You're playing chess. You're playing checkers. We're playing chess over here. We need to come out there and basically deny everything you've been talking about for the last decade.

[Pat]

Do you think. Do you think the President loves kids? Yes. Do you think he loves his grandkids? Yes. Do you think he sincerely is a good father and a good grandfather? Yes. Do you think he can't stand what Epstein and those guys do?

[Vinny]

100%.

[Pat]

Okay. So if you think he's that and he knows this has already happened and these people are grown, he feels bad for him. But his way of making sure the country and the world stays sane is by using this. So by the pure speculation. I don't know.

[Adam]

I actually think that is an incredible take. And you're going five layers deep. And I think that's. Actually. I said that the speech that Trump gave at the UN Which I called probably the. One of the greatest speeches that we've had.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Which we've had some. We had some. He talked about the mass migration. You're talking about how Europe is crumbling, talked about the threats of China and the rise of antisemitism, and everything's going on Israel. But then the linchpin was the climate change denial. Do you remember that? He's like, enough's enough here. He talked about that in his speech. So in my opinion, it's been the little boy who cried climate change. And you talked about the kids, what it's done to Gen Z. The most anxious, depressed, just on edge on the phone. Climate change consumed generation we've ever had. The amount of people like Saint Greta of climate change made her name on climate change, and now she's the poster child for Palestinian liberation. Does she even talk about climate change at this point? So I don't think we understand how big of a deal this is. The fact that Bill Gates came out there and said, stop it with this doomsday view of climate change is a massive, massive piece of news.

[Vinny]

Did you hear what Kamala said? I don't want to go into it. But on that same interview, Robbie of.

[Tom]

The Youth and Climate Exchange, she said.

[Vinny]

Climate crisis and the climate anxiety among young people. The United States should lower the voting age to 16 years old. She said it. She goes, I think we should reduce voting to 16. They've only known the climate crisis. They missed substantial part of their education because of the pandemic. They coined the term climate anxiety to describe fear. If not only being able to buy a home but that fear will. Will be wiped out by extreme weather. But fear. But you know what we almost had.

[Tom]

Welcome to Kamala Harris's cabinet meeting.

[Vinny]

To.

[Tom]

To drink minimum.

[Pat]

Which one is this?

[Vinny]

This is it, Pat. This is the climate. Climate anxiety.

[Pat]

Go ahead, Rob. Should reduce voting age to 16. I'll tell you why.

[Vinny]

Well, go ahead. So Gen Z, they're age about 13 through 27. They've only known the climate crisis. I apologize substantial parts of their education because of the pandemic. If they're in high school or college, especially in college, it is very likely.

[Pat]

That whatever they've chosen as their major.

[Vinny]

For study may not result in an affordable wage.

[Pat]

What they've coined the term.

[Vinny]

Look at him. Climate anxiety to describe fear of not only being able to buy a home.

[Pat]

But that fear will be wiped out by extreme weather.

[Vinny]

But fear of having children. What if she doesn't even have any?

[Pat]

It is expected that Gen z will.

[Vinny]

Have 10 to 12 jobs in their lifetime. They are a larger number than boomers. There are specific generations. Yeah. I'm sorry.

[Adam]

Could you imagine listening to that everybody every day for the next four years?

[Pat]

By the way, we almost had it. That's what you call.

[Adam]

That's how fragile America is.

[Pat]

That's what you call. I. If appropriate name would be trying to think for who.

[Vinny]

For who she is.

[Pat]

Yeah. I think she could have a good name called Kamala Jeremy. She is Kamala Jeremy because she. Kamala Jeremy. Last name Jeremy because she's like the Fear Porn master. Jeremy.

[Adam]

Rod Jeremy.

[Pat]

I'm just saying it's like Jeremy, like Ron Jeremy. How much? How much fear porn.

[Vinny]

Oh, she's pumping it.

[Pat]

I think we need to lower the age.

[Adam]

This is. This is part of the issue.

[Pat]

Why? Because if you don't know what these nine year olds are going through. And you know what, to be honest with you, with the current advancement of technology, why shouldn't we allow dead people to vote? We should allow dead people to vote. It is their right. Nowadays technology is allowing you to live beyond being death. And if we know how they voted, we should allow them to continue voting. You're freaking kidding me. My. Some of the stuff you're saying again, please continue to spew out stuff like this. That guy who's interviewing her, he's very good at doing interviews. What's his name? I want to respect the guy because he's so good at what he's doing with the CEO. Yeah, he's so good at doing the interviews and he's, he's relatively fair, he's very friendly. But. But, you know, deep down, aside as a capitalist, he knows. He's sitting there saying, I cannot believe this lady is saying this kind of stuff. He knows. He's not, he's not a dummy. He knows like, I don't know if I agree with the stuff that she said. You think he agrees that a 16 year old should vote?

[Adam]

I think he's like a, like a, like a comfortable place for a softball interview. He's not going to really push back. He's there to, you know, enjoy the conversation. He's not.

[Vinny]

But he's asking, have you ever seen.

[Adam]

Him do one clip where he's like, no, I don't think so, bro. One clip? Not one.

[Pat]

No. That's not his style. He's a safe space.

[Adam]

He's a definition of a safe space, which is nice. Yeah, that's great. People need that.

[Pat]

But, but I do think there still has to be logic there. And I think as a logical thinker, he has to independently afterwards go in and say, this is a little crazy, but go ahead. What were you going to tell us with your.

[Adam]

Well, I don't know if you saw what Trump basically came out and he just did a. Rob, I sent you that picture of what Trump came out regarding. I thumbed it up on the, on the chat.

[Vinny]

He's like the Trevor Noel of podcast.

[Tom]

That guy.

[Vinny]

He really is just that guy.

[Adam]

This is what Trump came out and said had to do with climate change. With Kamala, he's basically just said, listen, if you could just start making some stuff up. I got you too, buddy. Climate change is caused by dei, but we've been sold a bill of goods. How many years ago we had used to have climate change debates on Peabody podcasts. We had multiple people come on, someone wrote a book about it. We, the world is supposed to be over by now.

[Vinny]

Well, what's your name? AOC said, how many years? We're getting there. We're getting there. I can't wait for that to show.

[Adam]

I mean, Bill Gates is coming out there saying pump the brakes. Everyone should take note. But meanwhile, they've completely hijacked the Democratic Party. Look how massive a concern this is on the left versus on the right.

[Pat]

It's great. Keep it like that.

[Adam]

Who prioritizes climate, abortion and gun violence?

[Pat]

Look at Secure and border. Look at the priority of the left on securing the border. What's 76 plus 17? Is that 93? 76 plus 17 is 93. That means to them it's only 7% the issue. No problem. Whatever.

[Adam]

No problem, sir. That's a third party candidate security the border. They're non existent. In the blue, the 17 is the gray.

[Pat]

Brother, what is 76 plus 17?

[Adam]

Oh, I see what you're saying here. You're basically saying nothing.

[Pat]

Blue is only 7% of the issue.

[Adam]

They're not even concerned with.

[Pat]

Guys, can you please send Adam a Udemy gift certificate for basic math?

[Tom]

Exactly.

[Pat]

Let me continue.

[Adam]

My job is to make the money.

[Tom]

Remember, once upon a time it was called global warming, then they changed it to climate change because some of the data didn't mind up. Now it's maybe never even happened.

[Pat]

Let me go to the next story here. Okay. There's a guy named Don Lemon.

[Tom]

Really?

[Pat]

Yeah. And he hypocrite Don Lemon torch for saying Megan Kelly looks trans. Left is using trans as an insult now, Vinny. I'm sorry. Ross, can you play this trans clip of Don Lemon calling Megyn Kelly trans? Go ahead, Rob.

[Vinny]

Is Megyn Kelly chopped? I don't know what that means.

[Pat]

I don't know what is. I've heard it, but I don't know what that means. What does chop mean? She's gonna get mad at me, dude.

[Vinny]

I don't know if I want this here.

[Pat]

What does chop mean?

[Vinny]

Chop means like not hot. Yeah, she's chopped.

[Pat]

I don't know. The whole maga looking.

[Vinny]

All the maga ladies too much. Kind of looks like a Barbie doll covered in like WD40. I think she looks trans.

[Tom]

Let's end on that note.

[Vinny]

She looks clockable.

[Adam]

Clockable? What does that mean?

[Vinny]

Clockable means they're not pulling it off.

[Tom]

Right.

[Vinny]

If I'm not mistaken, Rob, if you. If you look up clockable in the trans, I. I think it means you're not pulling it off. Right.

[Tom]

Clockable is not appearing or passing off as the thing that they're going for. Correct.

[Pat]

That's the dumbest thing I've heard of my life. Can you do me a favor, Rob? Can you just type in Megyn Kelly and go to images? That's all I want you to do. Okay, Go. Megan Kelly. Go to images. Just zoom in. Look at that face. Okay. And by the way, Megyn Kelly and I have been on her show a couple times. It's not. We. We don't. We're not friends or communication mode. But this is a beautiful mother, strong Takes care of her family. Okay. Beautiful family, does what she does. Married to her husband. And only a gay man would say she's trans because only. Only a gay man would think she is not attractive. Which, by the way, it makes sense for him to say that, which. Which indirectly, it actually makes me respect the fact that he truly is gay.

[Vinny]

Yes, he really is.

[Pat]

Because if you can't see Megyn Kelly and say she's attractive and you have a hard time saying that, listen, you're full. Full fledged.

[Vinny]

Yes.

[Pat]

You know, Pete Buttigieg, LG I'm shocked.

[Tom]

First Liberace, then Richard Simmons, now Don Lemon.

[Vinny]

They're all really good.

[Tom]

Oh, no, I didn't see that coming.

[Vinny]

Oh, no, no.

[Pat]

But. But, you know, again, to say trans, like, that's. That's now. Hey, what's wrong with being trans, Don?

[Adam]

Yeah, yeah.

[Pat]

Why are you. Why are you insulting the trans community? You know, what do you.

[Vinny]

Honestly. What. What do you think happened to him? Because think about it. He was the Coulter say that.

[Tom]

She goes, wow, now being trans is a slur. When did that happen? But it's like, about that.

[Pat]

When did she say that?

[Tom]

I think a day ago. Can you find this, Rob, where Ann Coulter came out and pointed out the hypocrisy and says, oh, so now trans is actually not something that you protect, you little liberal. It's actually something that you now use as to attack person. There is a Slurpee.

[Vinny]

And where. Where is the. Where is the outrage of his LGBTQ plus? Where the T's at? Why the tease? Anybody else talks about the transgenders, it was. Forget about it. You're transphobic, you're good. People are going to come after us and kill us. Why. Why is he speaking like that? One of the biggest hypocrites. And I'm just trying to figure out what happened to this guy. He used to be on cnn. He used to have, like, you know, good points of view, especially with, you know, when he was, like, young black people.

[Pat]

He's married to a white guy. That's.

[Vinny]

That might be the problem. That might be the problem.

[Pat]

I don't. I don't know. I mean, look, for me, if you're.

[Vinny]

Not happy at the home.

[Pat]

Pat Vinny, there is a lot of impact that whatever you listen to for a long time, everybody at some point of their lives is being brainwashed. Let me explain to you what I mean by this. Either your parents are brainwashing you to believe in you can do something special with your life, or your parents brainwash into believing you're a loser. But either way, you're being brainwashed. One of them is using detergent and cleaning your brain. Of all the nasty negativity minds you have, the other one is using viruses when they're washing your head, brainwashing you, and they're convincing you you're not capable of doing anything special with your life. But either way, you're being brainwashed. And when you get out of college or high school and you go into college, you're being brainwashed. If you go, you know, work with a bunch of people that are business owners and they encourage you to work hard, they brainwashed into working hard. If you go to a place and hang out with a bunch of people that are single mothers, part of the 210 pound community that is getting snapped that Adam Crolla was talking about earlier when he's trying to help lose weight. If you're part of that community and you're hearing other people say, hey, just go have a couple kids and live off of this and this and that, okay, maybe that's the wrong. Everybody's being brainwashed. It is so flipping important who you listen to. The wrong community can totally destroy your life. Totally. Some of the conversation, one of my friends, relatives, and I said, man, you're listening to way too much negative stuff. And it's truly. I'm feeling it. I'm anxious being around you because all you're consuming is negative stuff. Get off of it. It's too much to. No, no, no. But you know, this, you know, I'm like, listen, I understand. I got it. I'm with you. I also follow some of these stories probably closer than you do. But I don't go to the point of jump into conclusion with everything that's going on. Just kind of pump the brakes a little bit. But to me, I think a Don Lemon, you know, Vinnie, just think, CNN hires you three years ago. Who are you today? They would probably have a little bit of influence on you. Of course, you go. And even the more younger we are. So Don Lemon, who knows what happened to him? Because one of the greatest clips of all time with Don Lemon is when he talked about pick up your pants. Stop using these words. We've shown that clip many times. And even Morgan Freeman. I don't want a Black History Month, do you? What happened to us? Look at us. We did okay. Why are we talking about Black History Month? But yeah, it's disappointing for him to go after Meghan Kelly, but that's actually a. It's actually a horrible position to make There's a lot of good positions you can make to potentially go up against conservatives and say stuff. Megan Kelly. Yeah. What are you talking about?

[Adam]

Well, it's. Yeah, it's just indicative of who the Democratic Party of the down Lemons are.

[Vinny]

What'd you say you're taking?

[Adam]

Indicative. Indicative.

[Vinny]

Yeah, I know.

[Adam]

You got it.

[Vinny]

Yeah, I got it in Dick. Okay.

[Adam]

Thanks, Vinny. But it's indicative of them. They just constantly double down on the 20 of the 8020 issue. Nobody in their right mind, any straight man will look at Megyn Kelly and be like, dime piece. Attractive, smart, capable, feminine, opinionated, but, like, classy. She's a poster child from what you would want from a wife from a woman on air. Like, incredible. And then you got Dylan Lemon spouting whatever nonsense he's talking about. By the way, if you compare their ratings, I assume that she blew him.

[Pat]

Out of the water.

[Vinny]

Don't.

[Adam]

Even if you look, I think he's. Now he's doing.

[Vinny]

He's not interested. He's in the streets.

[Adam]

He's doing his independent thing. I think she's probably has 4 or 5 million subscribers on YouTube. I would guarantee you he probably does even have a million.

[Pat]

He's in the street.

[Adam]

That.

[Vinny]

He's in the streets at this point, Adam.

[Adam]

He's in the streets. He belongs to the streets. But the fact that he's shaming a woman for being a trans woman when the Democratic Party built their brand for the last five years on trans women are women. And don't be shaming trans people. Where. Where's the shame? Where's the hypocrisy? What's the different, Rob, what's the different.

[Vinny]

He's at 970. Megyn Kelly's at 44.5.

[Adam]

So she's four times bigger than him, let's just say. So he's punching up. She probably won't even respond because she'd be punching down to this sad man just on a oh, no, she will Irrelevant podcast.

[Pat]

She will definitely respond.

[Adam]

And, Rob, do us a favor. Subscribe to Megan Kelly's podcast right there. She needs our help.

[Pat]

All right, so let's go to the next story. Next story. I want to get into how much time we got. 10:49. Okay, let me see here. Cash Patel shuts down Charlie Kirk foreign intelligence probe and explosive feud with Trump counter. Counter terror. Chief, let me read the story to you on what he's saying. Cash Patel. Let's go through this. So here we go. Okay. Cash Patel crushed efforts by Tulsi Gabbard's closest advisor to see if foreign powers was involved in Charter Cook assassination. The head of National Counterterrorism Joe Kent analyzed FBI's files to determine whether Kirk's alleged killer received assistant from foreign power. Kent's investigation, Lauren Patel, who believed the counter cheat counterterror chief was overstrapped. Overstepping by interfering with an ongoing FBI investigation. According to the New York Times, Kirk was shot in the throat by a high powered sniper rifle while speaking to college students at Utah Valley University on September 10th. The Times spoke with supporters of Kent who claimed he was doing his job by chasing down any leads to ensure no foreign groups were involved in Kirk's death. After Patel discovered Kent had gone through FBI case material related to Kirk's killing, a tense White House meeting was held to discuss the matter. A roundtable meeting between Kent, Patel, Gabbard, Gabbard, JD Vance and White House Chief of Seth Susie Walls and senior DOJ officials were held at the White House. Ken told the administration officials that it was granted access to the FBI files by low ranking agency official. Trump administration officials were worried that Kent's probe into foreign interference could provide ammunition to Robinson's defense lawyers who could then argue more than one suspect was involved in Kirk's murder.

[Adam]

Adam well, the date that we have to kind of pay attention to right now because there's so many rumors swirling out There is this January 16th. Have you heard about this date? January 16th, 2026 is apparently going to be the pre trial date that Tyler Robinson is apparently supposed to appear in court. They said that the legal system is already in motion, charges have been filed, the defendant is incarcerated without bail and the state is preparing for trial. So until that date, rumors are going to circulate, people are going to go out there and make all sorts of allegations, insinuations, we know who's out there just kind of claiming all sorts of wild things that the President Trump has allegedly killed Charlie and naming a day after him and people are alleging these foreign governments. But the reality is unfortunately none of this is gonna come to light until the trial actually starts. Then you have people in Charlie Kirk's camp, you know, our friend Andrew colvitt and Mikey McCoy who was basically his right hand man. There's allegations that they were involved. I think all this is gonna come to light. In my opinion a lot of questions need to be answered. A lot of questions, but still at this point the most likely guilty person is this guy Tyler Robinson. But a lot of things don't add up. I know that you've Kind of down. Down the path of loading the gun and trying and jumping off the roof.

[Vinny]

And his furry jumper has been missing for how many weeks, Rob?

[Adam]

Exactly?

[Vinny]

I think six.

[Adam]

Six weeks.

[Vinny]

Six weeks. They can't find furry boy.

[Adam]

What I've heard, you know, doing this podcast and, and, and watching all these massive news stories is everybody, because of the Internet, can just voice their opinion. We, We. We give a shout out to a guy on a podcast who had the most credible, incredible breakdown of the bullet and this and that. And then some other expert the next day was like, well, he's actually wrong. So until we actually see what the, you know, FBI has and what the authorities have, it's just consume information, take it in form your opinions. Don't make any final assessments until we get this information.

[Vinny]

Yeah, but you're not gonna be. You're not gonna be able to see it because they. They voted not to televise the. The actual trial.

[Pat]

I mean, what do they call it? The. Yes. Yeah. What is it called? Rap that you can't talk about it.

[Vinny]

They gagged everybody. I understand that, but I mean, like, think about it.

[Pat]

We.

[Vinny]

We get to watch Johnny Depp, listen to Amber Heard and she crapped on his bed. These are the trials that we want to see. I mean, me personally, and going back to the story, Pat, I just think it's odd. Why would Cash Patel like Shun Tulsi Gabbard, you know, Joe Kent is retired Army Special Forces Chief Warrant officer. Served 20 years, completed 11 combat tours in Iraq, Yemen, Africa. He retired and worked in CIA after entered politics. Like, he ran twice for Congress. This guy is a stud, a legitimate stud. Why would you try to hinder him for looking? Because, Adam, if there is outside foreign entities involved, like, come on, bro, like.

[Pat]

Why would you stop assigned to do it, or did he go to get it? I think he.

[Vinny]

I think he kind of.

[Adam]

It says Kent's investigation alarmed Patel, who believed the counterterrori chief was overstepping by interfering with an ongoing FBI investigation.

[Vinny]

He's in the government, though. You're working for the government. He's just being proactive. I mean, I. Personally, I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that. It's. It's just. It's just like you said, Adam, these unanswered questions that people.

[Adam]

What I find to be comforting is this round table with Cash Patel with Kent that you're talking about. Joe Kent with Tulsi Gabbard, with JD Vance, with Susie Wiles. You know, you might say you don't trust one person or you don't like how one person handles those things. But if you put this American team of Avengers, I would say that they were gonna get to the bottom of what happened with Charlie. Do you trust the people in that room between Tulsi Kent, Cash Patel, Susie Wiles, J.D. vance. Don't you think they have America's best interest and Charlie's best interest and the truth's best interest in mind? Don't you think?

[Vinny]

No, Adam, I'm not saying that I don't. Even when it comes to like FBI's and CIA, look at all the stuff that we hear about intelligence agencies.

[Adam]

No, I hear you, but it's not just the FBI and the CIA. You're having Susie Wiles in there.

[Tom]

You have J.D.

[Adam]

Vance in there. J.D. vance was, was, was incredibly close with Charlie. Don't you think their judgment.

[Vinny]

I trust J.D.

[Adam]

Don'T you trust their judgment more than talking heads on the Internet?

[Vinny]

No, but Adam, at the same time, when it comes to guns and taking them apart and stuff, we're not, we're not dumb, you know, I mean, taking apart a gun that fast and that type of gun and putting in a backpack.

[Adam]

So what's your biggest apprehension to what you've seen out there with the story? Because I agree there are questions that need to be answered.

[Vinny]

I mean, there's Adam. It's such a long line of just. Here's one of them.

[Adam]

What's the number one thing though?

[Vinny]

Hold on. George Zinn stood up the moment Charlie was shot. Everybody is running that way. This guy stands up, pulls out a white handkerchief. This was all planned for him. Pulls out a white handkerchief at him and walks towards Charlie and is saying, I did it. Shoot me, kill me. And takes his pants off. That to me says that there was fort somebody knew about this, that was going to happen. And there's just a bunch of unanswered stuff. And what's crazy is with all the cameras and everything, and we still can't say definitively what happened. A normal person doesn't do that. That's a really, really big problem. And then Adam, a.30 06 gun cannot fit in a backpack. He shot guns. I've shot guns. He shot guns. You can't fold a.30 06, bro, and put it in any backpack. Troy out there, who has a backpack, that's one of those long ones, Pat, those ranger ones. You can't do it. It's impossible. And Adam, and I'm not this crazy guy that's thinking all this, the President and all that. No, I don't think about none of that nonsense. Just give me the actual facts. Because when you're, when you're. When you're shunning it from us, and I know we don't deserve to hear all of it right out, because some of it. Some of this stuff is in there that's pretty messed up, by the way. Just be honest.

[Pat]

We can move on from this. I have so many questions. Yes, I have so many questions with this, it's not even funny.

[Adam]

What's your number one question, Pat?

[Pat]

I have so many questions with this, and I've expressed it many, many, many times. So I'm not. I'm not going to go through this, too, but I have a lot of questions. I. I would. I would. You know how when something happens, you. You then volunteer to join the military, like 9 11. A lot of people volunteer. I would volunteer to go work for the FBI to investigate and be one. I would volunteer. This is how bad. I want to know what happened here. I would volunteer because this guy. This guy was a. This guy was a very unique guy. Volunteer. This guy was a very unique guy. I would volunteer to do that. You don't even need to pay me. And I would. I would give a certain set of hours to go to this and find out what's going on over here. Because this is a. This is a. This is a very different time between MLK being assassinated, Bobby being a. Bobby Kennedy being assassinated, you know, JFK being assassinated than him. We got 3, 500 cameras. We got things right now that we didn't have back in the days. We should be able to figure out what's going on. And, you know, it's, it's.

[Tom]

It's.

[Pat]

But anyways, I. I got. I got one too many questions that I need two hours to go through for me to find this out. But if they do want to call me to help with that, I would volunteer my time. I'd go to D.C. once a week to just help figure this thing out. That's how bad. I want to know who was behind this, and I don't care who it was. Do you have the. I want to know who was behind this. I have a list of 15 different people that could be. You know, when you sell life insurance.

[Adam]

Yep.

[Pat]

We sold 800,000 life insurance policies over the years, give or take a lot of insurance. When you have death benefits that come and they get activated and you get the investigation. So I sold an insurance policy to a guy, and it's like, hey, you know sketches. There's a $250,000 policy. Oh, you think? Yes. No, he does. No, he didn't. Were you there when he peed? No, he gave me the urine. Okay, well, it happens. He didn't pee. His brother peed for him. How do you know that? Well, let me tell you, what a match. It happened that you also sold insurance policy to his brother as well. His brother's pee is identical to his pee. No way. Yeah. And now that he died a year and a half later, after the investigation, we find that he lied on this and da, da, da, da, da. And this was behind it. No way. Yes. Shoot. We can't pay him 250. They just refund back whatever premium he paid into it. Hey, this other person died. How do you die? He shot himself. Who was in the house? The husband was in the house. So who was it? Well, let me tell you, they looked under. The husband was involved. No way. Yeah. How about this one? Listen, do you know like part of being in life insurance and especially volume based for us? Volume base? I don't sell like to rich millionaires and billionaires. We sold to middle American, you know, people who wanted to buy quarter of a million. Half. Million dollar policy. Million dollar policy. You go through these audits with these investigators and you are sometimes like flabbergasted by the results of what really happened. But our job is to pursue because I want this surviving member who was relying on the breadwinner to get that $500,000 death benefit. I want her to get the money because she has to take care of those two kids. But no, this happened. That happened. I mean, there's way too many things for us to go through here. But I'm excited to hear the investigation start. And this is something I simply, as a guy who saw a man who was a once in a generation type of a guy, I want to know what happened.

[Adam]

Do you trust those people that we just mentioned? Cash Patel, Tulsi, J.D. vance, Susie Wiles.

[Pat]

I think you have to know already if you're around me enough, Adam, you have to know already for me that to be the CEO and the executive team of a very. Of the biggest company in the world called the United States of America, you don't live in the same reality.

[Vinny]

Good point.

[Pat]

So don't. Don't. It's. It's not. You speak a very different language than they speak. It's a very different language. Like I was in the military, okay? And I was going to go be 18Delta fifth group. I talked about it Yesterday with the guy, Jordan Goudreau, who was behind Operation Gideon where they try to take out Maduro. And you remember this interview that we did that, you know, maybe we'll show the intro at the end. We don't even know if we're going to release it or not. He was supposed to go to jail yesterday. When we interviewed him, he was in the middle of the parking lot outside of his homeless shelter with a anklet on because he's about to go to jail. Did you hear about this or no? Maybe we'll show this at the end of it for you. I started watching documentary yesterday as well with Tico because it's very interesting guy. But to me, when you're 18, Delta, and you go, and then your Delta Force and you go, they didn't join the same military I joined. I didn't see the same thing they saw. They saw things I will never see. It's a very different world you live in. So the average person cannot relate to what these guys have to do at the White House and who the enemies are. They really know who the end. And by the way, sometimes they're doing certain things and making some decisions that seem like they're divisive and it's nasty. It's like, you know, it's like, you know, the whole thing with, you know, idolize, demonize, humanize. The whole father, son relationship that goes through three phases. Sometimes your father has to die for you to realize why he did what he did when you were 16 years old. Sometimes you have to lose somebody to say, damn, you know, guy sitting there, he can't stand his dad. You know, dad never told him he loves him because his dad never told him he loves him. So his father didn't tell him that whole thing that nobody. And then his dad dies and he goes to the funeral just out of, you know, I have to go to funeral. Hundreds of people show up, and they all start telling how he helped them out even though he didn't have any money. And they're like, you don't even know who your father was. And a guy feels like saying, oh, my God, my dad helped so many people out. And he just never talked about it.

[Tom]

These.

[Pat]

These things are real. A part of life that is real, and you don't need to know everything. I talked to a guy whose father was part of Savak, and I put him in contact with a very powerful Savak, former SAVAK director. And. And they met each other, and that guy told them about what his grandfather did and why did didn't share everything with him. And one day, he and I are very, very successful guy disguise. And when I mean very successful, I don't mean like a millionaire. He's very, very successful. He visits me every month. We sit down and we do engagements with him for his firm. He's got a very big company. And I said, what makes you think your dad deserves to tell you this? What makes you think he has to tell you what he went through? Who are you for him to have to tell you this? Who am I for my dad tell me everything. Who are my kids for me to have to tell him everything. You don't know the burden I carry. I don't know the burden my dad carried living in Iran, going through war, and I don't know the burden his dad carried living in the 1920s. I'm supposed to understand what it's like to live in the twenties in Iran? No. So I'm telling you selfishly because of how much I believed in Charlie Kirk from the moment I met him. I said, this guy's gonna be a president one day. And the kind of president I would go campaign for, I would go. Not only put money, and I would have campaigned for this guy. I would have been the guy that would be like, hey, I'm. I want to help this guy become a guy. I don't. I've never done that.

[Adam]

Yep.

[Pat]

You know, we fought very hard for Trump, and that was probably the first time I ever did something like this, where even when everybody walked away from him 20, 20. I'm probably one of the only guys that. In the circle that I still stayed with them and are. And you remember those moments when we had those conversations?

[Adam]

Of course.

[Pat]

So to me, yeah, I'm not happy about it, but I understand the job of being in the White House. You're not supposed to fully understand half the things that they go through. You're not. And, you know, you voted for them whether you like them or not. They're doing their job. And I'm not expecting, like, 100% the stuff that they're doing. Anyways. I don't want to get into this topic as long as I did, but anyways. Okay, so, Papa, Papa, Papa, what do we got? Let me see what my next meeting is. If I got my next meeting going on right now, that is. Okay, so then. Then we have to kind of wrap up here. So let me. Let me do this. Let's go into the interview with. With this fellow, Jordan Gaudreau, who he was apparently offered $212.9 million by Guaido and the former president of Colombia to go in and take out Maduro. And his name is Jordan Goudreau. And it was pretty wild the stories that he was saying, former 18 Delta. Okay. A guy that was part of fifth group, the group that I was supposed to go to.

[Vinny]

Green Beret.

[Pat]

Green Beret, yeah. Decorated. He's done a lot of work. I think he's a three time bronze medalist and he's done some stuff. Go ahead, Rob.

[Vinny]

The bottom line is there was a.

[Tom]

Civil war going on in the White House.

[Pat]

What do you think is really the motive behind closed doors?

[Adam]

Venezuela is to the United States what.

[Pat]

Ukraine is to Russia.

[Vinny]

Let's cut through all the narrative.

[Tom]

He's trying to secure it for a possible escalation of war with Rush, China.

[Pat]

Even if you look at the way he's handling it right now, it's very public. They're flying over Venezuela, they're blowing up boats just to say here's what we're doing.

[Adam]

But I was recruited to do this.

[Tom]

To facilitate the capture of Nicolas Maduro.

[Pat]

If you're doing this, you're essentially doing a business deal with CIA. You know the track record, what it is, and you know you're playing with fire.

[Vinny]

The highest office asks you to do.

[Adam]

Something, you do it.

[Vinny]

Just like when my commanders tell me to do, I do it.

[Pat]

Where would the payment come from? From whom? It was told to me that the United States. The contract that he signed is public with you.

[Tom]

It's public.

[Pat]

$212.9 million over the course of the turn. What's the closest you ever got to Maduro?

[Adam]

I was getting reports on, on, on, on the type of soap that he used. That's how close I was.

[Pat]

Patrick, as close as you got. Did you ever have a chance where if you wanted to take him out, you could o.

[Adam]

That cliffhanger right there.

[Vinny]

Tell him where, where he's standing and like why.

[Pat]

Oh, he's standing outside with the greatest technology for audio in the greatest.

[Adam]

What?

[Pat]

People are walking past him in the back. He's outside of the homeless shelter.

[Vinny]

He's a homeless. With all the accolades that he just said. He's a freaking home. He's homeless.

[Adam]

That guy's homeless.

[Pat]

Yeah, he's homeless. Yep, yep, he's homeless. Anyways, we, we, we may post the interview tomorrow to go out 9am in the morning. So hang tight. Matter of fact, yeah, we may post it tomorrow. 9am I see what happened. We will see. We will see. We will see. Anyways, by the way, I want to show two other things before we wrap up. Okay? During my birthday, I got a lot of nice videos, but one of the coolest videos I got.

[Vinny]

Oh, my God, Ariella.

[Pat]

Oh, that's Ariella. Selena's mom sent this to me, and I didn't play it last week, but I want to play it. Tell me this kid isn't flipping cute. She is so cute. Watch this clip, guys. Watch this clip. Go ahead, Rob. Happy birthday to you.

[Vinny]

Are you turning 47? Because you don't look 47 at all.

[Adam]

What age does he look?

[Vinny]

She's hilarious.

[Tom]

46.

[Vinny]

Well, that's because he was 46 yesterday.

[Pat]

So. Yeah.

[Vinny]

And watching Change.

[Pat]

Okay.

[Tom]

Anyways, Pat, I want you to tell.

[Pat]

Me, how are your kids? How's your kids?

[Vinny]

I want to meet them.

[Adam]

How's your kids?

[Vinny]

I want to meet them.

[Pat]

Give me.

[Vinny]

I just want to meet him. Just do a video of something, like.

[Pat]

With them in it, because I want to see what they look like.

[Vinny]

You know, I don't really know. And I want to know who your kids are. I don't know the name, and I.

[Pat]

Want to know the name.

[Vinny]

So just make video with them.

[Pat]

Happy birthday to you.

[Vinny]

Happy birthday to you.

[Pat]

Bye.

[Vinny]

She's so adorable.

[Pat]

She's so cute. Anyway, somebody on my neck. The daughter. And yeah, she. She. She's. She's.

[Vinny]

That girl is acting class.

[Pat]

Go.

[Vinny]

I go, you.

[Adam]

You're.

[Pat]

She's amazing you for the birthday. Wish you'. Best. I appreciate you. And by the way, we got a lot of cool stuff that came this way. I thank all of you guys for what you sent, but we have. We have some clips that was sent to us, and I. I don't want, like, here's what I don't want to do. I had Rob talk to our lawyers because I don't know if we can show this clip or not. It was sent to us from a guy who works directly with Newsome, who is no longer. I think he quit about a week ago. And they sat down showing an interview that was supposed to go live with Newsome that never went live. So just watch this. But the only thing is, Rob, if lawyers get a hold of us, I want. I'm holding myself harmless because they send this clip to us as an insider.

[Tom]

Yeah, we're not stepping on a copyright. We're trying to stay inside.

[Vinny]

Did you guys see when he was in the all in smoke, all the smoke podcasts? He acts. He acts like he's. He's panders. Well, this. Are we going to show It Pat.

[Pat]

What happens here is he actually ends up becoming one of the brothers if you watch it. Well, watch it. So, again, lawyers, if you're watching, just watch this. Go ahead, watch this. Governor Newsom, thank you for being on the podcast.

[Vinny]

Thank you for having me, Steven. I'm really excited to be here with both of you. So hopefully we'll just, you know, knock this one out of the park.

[Adam]

So you're the governor of one of.

[Tom]

The biggest, most diverse states.

[Pat]

How do you handle that kind of pressure?

[Vinny]

Yo, I'll tell you, dog, I think it came from my upbringing, you know, I'm saying? Just, you know, being from the streets just made me, like, really hardcore. You feel me? You guys feel me?

[Pat]

I thought you were from Marin County. That's one of the richest neighborhoods in California.

[Vinny]

I mean, yeah, you're right, but my area was really, really tough. Do you feel me? You know, see, I had to teach myself to be a man, you know, My pops dipped out early. I know y' all can relate to that, right?

[Adam]

Nah, my dad never left.

[Pat]

Oh, yeah, mine either.

[Adam]

Right, right.

[Vinny]

But, you know, it was hard, you know what I'm saying? Like, my mom's is working all day, you know? I mean, I'm home, you know? I mean, no money. Just sitting there with just stacks of Wonder Bread, you know what I'm saying? Just stacks with, like, Mac and cheese. Just putting that Mac and cheese on it. Okay, OG Gavin.

[Pat]

Yeah. Yeah, that sounds real good, bro.

[Vinny]

I'm so hooked, bro. I would just be in the backyard for hours, just shooting hoops. You feel me? Just putting in the work. And then my mom would come out, you know what I'm saying? And she'd be like, hey, Gavin, dinner's ready. I'm like, man, shut your white ass up, woman. Always trying to keep a brother down. You feel me? That's how they always do, these white women.

[Pat]

I have to ask, though. Is there any proof that you were really about that life?

[Vinny]

Yo, I'm so happy you asked me, fam. California dreaming, homie. I actually brought my childhood journal, you know what I'm saying? Just to show y' all how hood, how gangster I was, because I documented everything, fam. Check me out right here.

[Adam]

Everything.

[Vinny]

Family in West Marin County. Born and raised. On the playground was where I spent most of my days. Chilling out, maxing, relaxing, all cool, shooting some B ball outside of.

[Adam]

Yeah, I know that.

[Pat]

The theme song to Fresh Prince Bel Air.

[Adam]

Yeah, it is.

[Vinny]

Is. I. I don't know who he is, but he sounds like he had a Rough ass life. You feel me, dog? You feel me?

[Tom]

All right, we're about to wrap this thing up. And governor, is there anything else you'd like to add?

[Vinny]

Man, you already know what time it is. 2028. It's Newsome.

[Adam]

Oh, whoa.

[Vinny]

Yeah, so he. But I don't know if legal's gonna get us in trouble for that.

[Pat]

I don't think they can show stuff like that. Listen, whoever the. The. The intern was that sent us, whatever you do, come to the state of Florida. You'll feel freer here instead of working for something like that.

[Tom]

But anyways, I have 22 emails. I'm gonna spend the afternoon.

[Pat]

Yeah, Tom's got some stuff he's got to do, gang. Have a wonderful, wonderful weekend. Enjoy Halloween. Today we're going to be going trick or treating, and I'm. I'm planning on. Listen, if the Yankees need me to step up to the plate next year, get it. I'm. I'm ready, guys. And it'll be a new market. Okay. I'll be a minority owner slash pinch hitter coming out.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Helping out the organization. Definitely can't pitch. I threw a first pitch one time. I think I heard somebody, but.

[Adam]

PVD predictions. World Series. Toronto versus your boy Uncle Tom's.

[Tom]

The vacationing Dodgers.

[Pat]

Oh, my God. Let me tell you, I'm not going to lie to you. Stats showing how great this World Series and amount of viewership they're getting, it's unreal. And it's actually, of course, for me, I want the Yankees to be in there. Of course. And the team that is in there is a team that beat us, which is Toronto. Yeah. So of course I want the. And by the way, I want a game 7. I have a feeling I'll make a prediction. Tom.

[Adam]

Let's hear it.

[Pat]

Ready?

[Adam]

Let's hear it.

[Pat]

Can I make a prediction to you? I could be wrong, but I'm gonna make a prediction. What I'm going to say, Mookie Bets is going to have a great game today. I think Mookie's going to have a great game today.

[Tom]

So Mookie and Yamamoto.

[Pat]

I think Mookie. I think Mookie's going to play lights out today.

[Vinny]

Wow.

[Pat]

I think it's going to go to game seven. I think Mookie's. I was there when they won the World Series at. During. COVID You went to game three or something? I went to game seven. I don't know what it was, but we exchanged pictures, if you remember that.

[Tom]

Oh, yeah. Dodgers, Tampa.

[Pat]

That's right.

[Adam]

Yes, yes.

[Tom]

And by the way, game five, Bueller. And then game six was the decider.

[Pat]

And I flew to LA with my friends in la. Off with Steven. I went and watched the game where Houston Astros beat the Dodgers. Var. Who was a var. Show that was pitching. I was there as well.

[Tom]

17.

[Pat]

But to me, I think Mookie is. He's playing so good as a. He made a couple mistakes, but he's playing so good as a shortstop. For a guy to go from an outfielder to be a shortstop. I'd like to see Mookie recover and have a good game six going into seven and then game seven. You know what I want to see in game seven? Honestly? You want me to tell you what I want to see? Please tell me. I believe every once in a while, we get the opportunity, watch a guy that's destined for greatness. I would love a game seven. I'm talking walk off, home run Ohtani.

[Vinny]

Bottom of the night, bottom of the knife.

[Pat]

Oh, I want to see it. I want to see it. I do, too. I want to see something like that. I want to see. I want to see something like that. I want to see some special happen, but I want to see Mookie have a big game.

[Vinny]

I think after all the Canada stuff. Tom, we cannot. I know you're from Canada, too, which is weird.

[Tom]

I'm derivatively, like.

[Pat]

Do you know. Do you know why? It's the number one reason why I'm not rooting for Toronto Blue Jays.

[Vinny]

Marie.

[Pat]

No. Pierre Poliev.

[Vinny]

I just can't do apples.

[Pat]

Even though. Even though. Vladimir. Respect.

[Vinny]

Oh, my God.

[Pat]

Even though that rookie. Wow.

[Vinny]

What's that guy's name, by the way?

[Pat]

He got record. Record. How many strikeouts? 13 strikeouts in a game?

[Adam]

Yep.

[Pat]

Do you want to know. Do you want to know the craziest thing about the 13 strikeouts that he got in the game, by the way, at this point of the game? People are watching. They're just sports people that are watching.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Let me tell you, the guy that got 13 strikeouts in a game, a number came out showing how much he makes compared to what others make Ohtani makes. Do you know how much he's making right now?

[Vinny]

How much?

[Pat]

Okay, let me send this to you, Rob. Okay, Rob, I'm gonna send this to you. Show this. This is the picture. Who is Toronto? Oh, my. The guy pitched Lights. He got one hit off of him. One hit off of him, Rob, if you don't mind showing one hit.

[Vinny]

He almost do a no hitter in the World Series.

[Pat]

No, meaning the one hit that Got run is what what I'm saying. But the guy pitched so good. And they compared his salary to Blake Snell's salary. Do you know how much his salary was for 2025? Don't tell me if this is right, Tom. He signed an $8 million contract, but his salary for 2025 is, if this number is right, 250. I. I don't know if this is right or wrong, but zoom in.

[Vinny]

57,000.

[Pat]

Blake Snell made 27.8 million. He apparently just got paid that much money. Is that even possible, Tom?

[Tom]

Well, it. It is. When you come up to the Miners, you have to remember he levels in the minors this year and is now at the bigs. I believe his first full year in the bigs on service time. Next year it's going to be 475. But he's on the rookie deal and.

[Pat]

They have $57,000 a year. As a rookie, got 12 strikeouts, World Series game and the opponent got paid 28 million. And Blake Snell is a stud. I wish he would have come to the Yankees, but he chose to go to LA anyways.

[Adam]

It's reminiscent of when there was a Super bowl two years ago and it was Patrick Mahomes. There's Brock Purdy was a rookie and a rookie contract.

[Pat]

That's right.

[Adam]

Making like, like a half a million bucks versus the highest quarterback in the league.

[Pat]

So prediction.

[Adam]

Who do you got?

[Pat]

I think it's going game seven.

[Adam]

Who's wins it in game seven?

[Vinny]

Dodgers walk off. That's what he wants.

[Pat]

I'd like a walk off, but give us a prediction. You want me to do odds? Toronto's taking it? Yeah, Toronto's taking it. You want me to do odds? Toronto's taking it.

[Vinny]

If he said somebody has to step up, I mean, I think Ohtani's gonna have a good game. Somebody either than Otani, potentially. Mookie Betsy has to step up because the momentum and that's how it is in baseball. Yankees know this. The New York Giants don't judge. It's the momentum, it's who's riding that high. Vladimir Guerrero's swing is like he's chopping like a tree down with one swing of an ax.

[Pat]

And by the way, Springer is hurt. He hasn't even played the last two.

[Vinny]

Games and they still watched.

[Pat]

Mayor of Cincinnati.

[Tom]

Prediction.

[Vinny]

If somebody else steps up today, Dodgers win. And it goes to seven. And Dodgers win game seven.

[Pat]

If they win tonight, if they win.

[Vinny]

Tonight, Dodgers winning game seven. But if not, I mean, tonight matters. There's two games In Toronto.

[Tom]

Rep in Toronto. And Toronto's playing phenomenally. The Dodgers got to play well enough to beat Toronto and Toronto's playing tremendous baseball right now.

[Pat]

Go, Mookie.

[Adam]

Well, there hasn't been.

[Pat]

Come on, buddy.

[Adam]

There hasn't been a back to back World Series champion since your Yankees, I believe, in 2000, 25 years ago. I think the Yankees won 99, three in a row. And by the way, did they not. By the way, the Yankees won back to back World series in the late 90s, early 2000s.

[Pat]

Did you say back to back to back or back to back?

[Adam]

Did they what they get? They get two out of three.

[Pat]

Three?

[Tom]

I thought it was three back to.

[Pat]

Back to back, Rob.

[Adam]

I think they won three in a row. I think they won three in a row.

[Tom]

Yep.

[Adam]

Yeah, I was right.

[Pat]

See, Adam's right once in his life.

[Vinny]

But when it comes to sports, I.

[Adam]

Don'T think it's going to happen again this year. Sorry, Tom. We were there when you broke PBD's heart in Yankees Stadium last year.

[Vinny]

But you know what? During the world, Toronto, Tom, what do you say?

[Adam]

Canada, You've been falling apart.

[Tom]

Congratulations.

[Adam]

I think they're going to win the World Series.

[Tom]

We have to appreciate what the Yankees did. That, that back to back. Do you know who was the team that did it before them? You know how far back you had to go?

[Vinny]

Was it the Chicago White Sox?

[Tom]

Pete Rose should have been in the hall of Fame while he was alive, but it was a big red machine. 75, 76. That went back to back. And it was that long that the Yankees went back to back.

[Pat]

Which shows you how Athletics went back to back to back. The Reds, 72, 73, 74.

[Tom]

Yeah, they beat the. The Athletics. Hang on. They beat the Mets, the Reds and the Dodgers.

[Adam]

Wow.

[Vinny]

Freaking guys.

[Pat]

Was Dennis Eckersley pitching at that time?

[Tom]

No, no, no. It was Catfish Hunter and a guy named Reggie Jackson. Reggie Jackson won it.

[Adam]

Reggie Jackson was.

[Pat]

Have you ever, by the way, have you ever seen Reggie Jackson? He hits a home run. After he hits a home run, he chases down the pitcher and beats the living crap out of. We can't show it. But Reggie's a funny guy. Reggie is a funny guy. All right. Okay, sounds good, guys. Have a good weekend and happy Halloween, everybody. Go, Mookie. Have fun tonight. Take care. God bless. Bye. Bye.