US Pilot RESCUED + Trump's BRUTAL Iran Warning | PBD #771

Summary

PBD Podcast #771
US Pilot RESCUED + Trump's BRUTAL Iran Warning
April 6, 2026
Host: Patrick Bet-David (“Pat” or “PBD”)
Co-hosts: Tom, Vinny, Adam

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Episode Overview

In today’s episode, the PBD Podcast team gives an in-depth breakdown of breaking news around the daring US military rescue of two pilots lost in Iran and President Trump’s aggressive warnings to the Iranian regime. The panel discusses the implications on US politics, military morale, Iran’s nuclear ambitions, the economic ripple effects of ongoing conflict, and offers their characteristic mix of personal stories, debate, and pop culture references. The hosts also touch on domestic issues from California politics to the future of family formation in America.

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Main Theme

The episode centers on the bold US rescue operations of downed pilots in Iran—hailed as one of the most daring in US history—alongside President Trump’s confrontational stance against Iran, current geopolitical tensions, and their economic, political, and cultural consequences domestically.

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Key Discussion Points & Timestamps

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1. US Pilot Rescue: Operation and Impact

[13:23–27:45]

• Details of the Rescue Mission

  • President Trump’s Truth Social post announces both US pilots are safe:

    “Over the past several hours, the United States military pulled off one of the most daring search and rescue operations in US history for one of our incredible crew member officers, who I am thrilled to let you know is now safe and sound.” (Trump, 13:23)

  • The first pilot landed safely; the second survived two days alone in the mountains, tracked by the CIA, and was ultimately rescued by SEAL Team Six and JSOC at night.
  • Key Quote:

    “This is the first time in military memory that two US Pilots have been rescued separately deep in enemy territory…without a single American killed or even wounded…” (Trump message, 13:23)

• Reflections on Military Values

  • Pride in America risking 200 personnel to save two lives, contrasted to the 1980 failed Operation Eagle Claw.
  • Pat:

    “Can you imagine, you send 200 people to save two lives? That's America.” (Pat, 19:57)

  • Tom describes the SERE training and the US commitment to bringing every service member home.

• The Bigger Message

  • Panel marvels at military improvement since the 1980s and monolithic commitment to not leaving anyone behind.

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2. Trump’s Iran Escalation and Communications

[01:11–04:40], [27:45–39:03], [54:49–55:00]

• Late Night Trump Tweet

  • Trump tweets at 1:21 a.m. endorsing Steve Hilton for CA governor, then less than 48 hours later threatens Iran with dramatic consequences if they do not comply:

    “Tuesday will be a power plant day and bridge day all wrapped in one in Iran. There’ll be nothing like it. Open the effing strait, you crazy bastard, or you’ll be living in hell. Just watch. And the best part of this tweet is: Praise be to Allah.” (Pat quoting Trump, 04:17)

• Panel’s Reaction

  • Vinny: “He’s so unpredictable. Did you grock it and say, is this real? Did he really post that?” (04:47)
  • Trump’s unpredictability is viewed as strategic leverage.

• Panel Discusses Their Private Call with Trump

  • Pat recounts a 10-minute phone call with President Trump while on a safari, discussing issues ranging from Iran to the pilots.

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3. Iran’s Counter-Threats and Propaganda

[30:10–39:03], [36:31–39:03], [39:48–43:58]

• Iranian Response

  • Iran releases videos threatening US and Western assets, including leveraging AI data centers in Abu Dhabi as potential targets.
  • Discussion of Iran’s claim:

    “460kg of 60% enriched uranium, enough to develop 11 nuclear bombs.” (Pat, 34:44)

• Negotiation Rumors

  • Panel is skeptical about Iran’s alleged willingness to negotiate, viewing the regime as “full of crap” (Tom, 34:56).

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4. “Gates of Hell”: Religious and Ideological Context

[43:58–48:59]

• Adam’s Key Take:

  “Whether you believe it or not, this is a religious war...This is the number one most theocratic regime in the world...There’s zero separation between mosque and state in Iran.” (Adam, 43:58–45:10)

• The hosts stress the difference between Western and Iranian value systems, especially the regime's willingness to sacrifice for religious reasons.

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5. Iranian Nationals in the US: Policy Debate

[55:52–66:36]

• ICE Arrests on Soleimani’s Niece and Daughter

  • Rubio revokes green cards for relatives of Qassem Soleimani.
  • Vinny objects to allowing known enemies' families to stay in the US:

    “If my uncle who was killing Americans, and you kill my uncle, 1000% I’m going to be giving information…if you’re a green card holder here saying ‘Great Satan,’ you gotta go.” (Vinny, 65:37)

• Freedom of Speech or National Security?

  • Tom: “You're not a citizen. You're a guest. Rubio just said, play the video...Why did I give you...a green card if this is how you’re going to behave here?” (Tom, 63:59)

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6. Domestic Economic Fallout

[70:04–80:17]

• War “Tax” on American Businesses

  • Surge in oil prices (now $112/barrel) produces direct costs for businesses and consumers, e.g., Amazon implements a 3.5% fuel surcharge.
  • Tom: “Larger national companies can weather it, but mom-and-pops are having to raise prices. It’s the effect of a commodity-priced oil.” (70:04)

• Job Market Silver Linings

  • Despite conflict, the US added 178k jobs in March; Trump touts "enormously powerful engine of economic growth." (71:54)

• Debate: Is “Short-Term Pain” Worth It?

  • Adam: “What's the worst we have? We pay a couple extra bucks for gas…We're not getting bombed every day. We'll survive.” (74:45–76:40)
  • Vinny: “For Middle America, paycheck to paycheck, this is hurting them. They want a clear end in sight.” (76:40–78:08)
  • Tom reinforces that affordability is a real, nonpartisan issue that's been decades in the making.

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7. Future of US Politics: Impeachment and California

[85:00–105:44]

• Democrats Vow to Impeach Trump if They Win Midterms

  • Ro Khanna:

    “He should be impeached now…The Democrats will impeach him once we take back the House…” (Ro Khanna via clip, 85:20)

  • The panel discusses the “impeachment as politics” trend, referencing prediction markets listing 70% odds of impeachment by January 2028.

• California PR Spending

  • Gavin Newsom spends $19 million on a NY PR firm to improve the state's image.
  • Vinny:

    “There’s no money that can change the reputation of what’s going on in California.” (98:05)

• Trump Endorses Steve Hilton for Governor

  • Trump’s tweet propels Hilton to the top of betting markets for next CA governor.

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8. Culture & Social Trends

[116:12–125:47]

• DINKS: Double Income, No Kids

  • Declining birthrates in Western nations as more couples choose career/freedom over children.
  • Tom:

    “It's the affluence of society that leads people to be selfish...Society puts self ahead of joy that you have with the creation of family.” (118:32–119:56)

• Adam:

  “The last thing that you want to do, whether you’re a man or a woman, is become a sow—single and lonely...Who do you want to be, and solve for that.” (122:10–123:16)

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9. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “America does not leave anybody behind…that’s a message for everybody watching.” (Vinny, 17:50)
• “If the IRGC told me what time it is, I’d audit it.” (Tom, 38:20)
• “We've been using impeachment just to say we're mad. It’s complete BS.” (Tom, 88:55)
• “He’s an incredible politician, horrible CEO. It's all lipstick on a pig.” (Adam on Newsom, 103:53)
• “Freedom of speech allows people to gaslight and confuse…the risk is when it’s weaponized.” (Pat, 68:29)

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10. Business & AI: The Medvi Case Study

[127:34–135:08]

• Highlight: Story of two brothers scaling GLP-1 telehealth startup Medvi from $20k investment to projected $1.8bn sales using AI.
• Pat on what parents should do:

  “Parents, share that story with your kids...let's inspire these kids to think bigger.” (131:50)

• Tom’s advice:

  “AI does the chores. It doesn’t pick your industry or your character. That’s still on you as a founder.” (130:44)

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Conclusion

The episode covered a tense moment in US–Iran relations from historic rescue missions to escalating rhetoric and negotiation rumors, all while the team tied in real-world consequences for Americans—in business, politics, and family life. The hosts argued for optimism grounded in American resilience and technological innovation, but returned repeatedly to the need for leadership, personal responsibility, and the dangers of complacency.

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Section Guide with Timestamps

| Section | Timestamps | |-----------------------------------------|----------------| | US Pilot Rescue & Trump’s Praise | 13:23–27:45 | | Trump’s Iran Warnings (Tweets, Calls) | 01:11–04:40, 27:45–39:03 | | Iran’s Nuclear Threats & Propaganda | 30:10–39:03 | | Religious/Cultural War Analysis | 43:58–48:59 | | Iranian Nationals & US Policy Debate | 55:52–66:36 | | War’s Economic Fallout for Americans | 70:04–80:17 | | Politics: Impeachment, CA, Newsom | 85:00–105:44 | | Social Trends: DINKS, Birth Rates | 116:12–125:47 | | Business: Medvi & AI | 127:34–135:08 |

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For New and Returning Listeners

If you missed this episode:
The PBD team delivered an urgent, timely, and engaging discussion covering military heroics, presidential brinkmanship, the war’s impact at home, and what all this means for our institutions, wallets, and families. With characteristic energy—and plenty of debate—the hosts blend headline analysis with cultural commentary, offering a multifaceted view ideal for those seeking to understand not just what is happening, but why.

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Notable Quotes Recap:

• Trump: “We will never leave an American war fighter behind…” (13:23)
• Vinny: “America does not leave anybody behind…that’s a message for everybody watching.” (17:50)
• Pat: “Can you imagine, you sent 200 people to save two lives? That’s America.” (19:57)
• Tom: “You're not a citizen. You're a guest. Rubio just said … Goodbye.” (63:59)
• Adam: “The last thing…is become a sow. Single and lonely…Solve for that.” (123:16)
• Adam: “He’s an incredible politician, horrible CEO. It's all lipstick on a pig.” (103:53)

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Transcript

[Tom]

Did you ever think you were making.

[Vinny]

Adam?

[Tom]

What's your point?

[Pat]

The future looks bright.

[Tom]

My handshake is better than anything I

[Pat]

ever signs right here. All right, so guys, hope you had a fantastic Easter weekend spending time with the family. I know, we did. We did this. What do you call it when you put the.

[Vinny]

The egg hunt?

[Pat]

It was so weird. I've never seen this where we put the eggs all over the place. And you know, normally when we do this, we would put ten and twenty dollars. This year we said, let's put fifteen hundred dollars. I've never seen so many adults show up. It was like affordability. I'm like, hey, you're at least 40 years old, bro. This is for kids. This is for kids. And it's like, no, no, I'm gonna compete. I'm gonna come. This one guy had like 88 of them. He doesn't. I don't even know this relative. I don't know this.

[Adam]

That one guy was me. Thank you.

[Pat]

Walked away with $280. It was a record.

[Tom]

Turned out just a neighbor said he was a cousin.

[Pat]

Can you imagine that? But anyways, hope you guys had a good weekend. We had a wonderful weekend with the family. Nothing like it. While that was going on, I got a question for you. What were you doing this morning at 1:21am? Just think about it. How old are you and what were you doing today at 1:21am Old? Are you okay? Were you. Are you 38? And at 120 you're like, Pat, I'm sleeping.

[Vinny]

I was.

[Pat]

Are you 27? And at 1:21am maybe you and your girl will, you know, I don't know. What were you doing today at 1:21am right? Were you up at the club? Were you asleep? Getting ready for your week? Is it a four day weekend for you? There's a 79 year old man at D.C. who had 1:21am what he had on his mind is endorsing a governor candidate for the state of California, Steve Hilton. Can you imagine that? And his tweet wasn't a short tweet. It's like, dude, it's late. Let me just kind of post a small little tweet. Nah, it's like, I have known and respected Steve Hilton who's running for governor of California for many years. He's truly a fine man. One who has watched as this one great state has gone to hell. Gavin Newscombe and the Democrats have done an absolute horrendous job. People are fleeing, crime is increasing and taxes are the highest in any state, the country, maybe the world. Steve can turn it around before it's too late. And as the President, I will help them do so with federal help and Governor Grant. Great. Governor Steve Hilton. California can be better than ever before. Steve Hilton. He's still going. He's still going at 1:21am this morning. Now, couple days ago, less than 48 hours, obviously, because that 48 hours is coming out. He put a threat on Iran and on Easter. The words he used like, you have to be about that life. You know what I'm saying, Vinnie? Yeah, like it's thug life.

[Adam]

He's there.

[Pat]

I sometimes wonder if he listens to Tupac when he wakes up. Can you imagine low key if the President is a Tupac guy and you just walk in. All I need in a Cyprus in is Melania. Like, it's just, you know, imagine like he's a hardcore, hardcore dmx, like Bone Thugs in Harmony, like hardcore rap guy before he makes his decisions. Right. I mean, so here's what he tweeted and we'll talk about this as well. He called me right after this. We had a 10 minute conversation. I'm with the kids at the, what do you call it?

[Vinny]

Safari.

[Pat]

At the safari and all of a sudden the President calls. We had a full on 10 minute conversation about a bunch of different things. I'm asking myself, what does your schedule look like?

[Adam]

Hold on. What?

[Pat]

Yeah, what are you doing? Right. What are you up to? And Jennifer's there, Brooklyn screaming in the background. Senna's in my lap. We're getting past giraffes and the President's on the phone with me.

[Vinny]

What a timing.

[Pat]

What a timing. Right?

[Adam]

Are you saying that he called you this weekend?

[Pat]

Saturday, Saturday.

[Adam]

He and I, I saw you were doing giraffes, lions. Oh my.

[Vinny]

Exactly.

[Adam]

When he called, President Trump called you. You're trying to say, well, you're a lion country, Safari.

[Pat]

Yeah. Yes.

[Vinny]

And the JOA was even like, is

[Adam]

that the President on Easter or the day before Easter?

[Pat]

The day before Easter.

[Adam]

And what was the premise?

[Pat]

I mean, it's. We talk about a lot of different

[Vinny]

things, but definitely talk about you, Adam.

[Pat]

Great conversation about Iran. We talk about a lot of different things. We talk about, you know, Pat, let,

[Adam]

please, let's just not. Yeah, the President called me this weekend. Let's. Because I know it's happened before.

[Pat]

We may get into it.

[Adam]

No, but I mean he's not going to just. We're here now.

[Pat]

Yeah, no, I, I understand that, but,

[Adam]

but like, I just think Just for the sizzle. People want to know.

[Pat]

I will tell you.

[Tom]

Well, then let them tell the people.

[Pat]

You have to also think about it. This is a very pressured type of a weekend for you to come out on Easter Tuesday will be a power plant day and bridge day all wrapped in one in Iran. There'll be nothing like it. Open the effing straight, you crazy bastard, or you'll be living in hell. Just watch. And the best part of this tweet is. Praise be to Allah.

[Vinny]

Yeah, true.

[Pat]

Can you imagine, like, this guy, what is the.

[Adam]

What?

[Pat]

You know? So I'm telling you, he's about that life.

[Vinny]

You know, why he, like. Can we be honest? He's so unpredictable. Be honest. Did you grock it and say, is this real? I had to do it three times and be like, did he really post that?

[Adam]

Yes.

[Vinny]

Praise be a lot. It sound like M. But by the

[Adam]

way, he posted it after he spoke with ppd. I don't know why. If there's a correlation.

[Pat]

Let me just say this to you.

[Vinny]

Let me.

[Pat]

Let me go through some of these stories on what we have. ICE arrest relatives of Sale Iranian general Soleimani living in the US after Rubio revokes their green cards. This is the niece and the daughter, if I'm not mistaken.

[Vinny]

The niece and her daughter.

[Pat]

Niece and her daughter, yes. So we'll talk about that. White House sits out deranged liberal conspiracy theory claiming that Trump is in a hospital. He was definitely not in the hospital. Trump unveils one and a half trillion dollars of defense surge, deep domestic cuts. What's on a budget? Chopping blocks. We talk about that. Trump's request $152 million to reopen Alcatraz. Can you imagine? Like, everything's going on. Let's reopen Alcatraz. And you take the worst of the worst and you put him on Alcatraz. Maybe he wants Heat 2 to come out. I don't know, like a sequel. Because with somebody else, it was great

[Tom]

to place for Gavin News.

[Pat]

Not he too. What was it called now? The Rock.

[Vinny]

The Rock.

[Pat]

The Rock movie, right. The Rock with Sean Connery and Sean Connery.

[Vinny]

Nicholas Cage, you know who? Harris. Ed Harris. Nicholas Cage.

[Pat]

Nicholas Cage. Very, very to the Rock. Very, very good movie.

[Vinny]

Very, very Sean Connery.

[Pat]

March job report came in. Looks very good. We talked about the Iran escalation. The rescue. Oh, my God. The rescue that they did. Unreal surprise. Shocking confusion, Unpredictable credit to the military that we have in the U.S. it's just absolutely something else for them to. To. To have the job that they have and do what they did. And then we'll talk about some of the other stuff from the past which was a failure that caused him to get good at this. We'll talk about that as well. U S Iran war tax begins to hit American business consumers. Tom's got some thoughts on that. Gas prices, Oil is right now still at 110, Tom, if I'm not mistaken. I think it's at 110 as of right now.

[Tom]

Yep. Pre open 110. Hanging too high.

[Pat]

That's right. So Amazon tax on three and a half percent surcharge. You buy a hundred dollar product on top of tax on top of shipping. Shipping and handling they're adding an additional three and a half dollars. Three and a half percent for fuel surcharge. Amazon just announced that Supreme Court. One of the Supreme Court justices experienced a medical incident. It was undisclosed but apparently some people are saying he's not doing too well. I think we just checked his age this morning. He's 75, 76 if I'm not mistaken. Mistaken. California's got a hot Messard. They're spending $17 million with a PR firm to make California look better. You can spend a billion dollars, I don't care how much money you hire. The greatest PR firms in the world cannot save California right now with the mess that they have because there's a guy that wants to be a president so bad. And we'll see, we'll see what angle they're going to take. New York Vinnie homelessness Mamdani gun violence comments after killing of 7 month old baby spark outrage, absolute disgrace. And what else we got here? Epstein victims demand meeting with King Charles in Washington. Elon Musk asked Space SpaceX IPO to buy Grok as well on the subscription side. And Oracle faces backlash over H1B visa and a LeBron James Maclatch after revealing the city he would never play in and telling an NBA team to move. And that city we'll definitely talk about. I think the coach of that city said why don't we build him at Ritz Carlton and ask him to move here. And that coach is a championship winning coach in the past before Trump says Kurt kept the guns that were meant for Iran protesters. What do you mean you kept the guns? They kept the guns. Allegedly. And we'll address that as well. With that being said, gang, one thing if you have heard us, we haven't talked about anything with Merch and we're not going to till next Monday. 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And then 52 of them were held hostage. And we had to do an Operation Eagle Claw. And it was a hot mess. You know, C130 crashed into a helicopter. Eight people died. It was nasty. So it's like, wait a minute, do we want. By the way, that's the last time we did an operation like this before last time. And obviously the, the military, you got to give a lot of credit because Delta Force was involved back then. Nobody knew about Delta Force. In the early 80s it was Navy, it was everybody involved. Rangers were involved. Air Force was involved with a pilot of the C130. It's like, are we going to do this again? Not 453, not 466, but just for two. And this time the CIA is going to be involved. Yes. You're kidding me. Not at all. And so while we're all watching the news, Rob, if you want to play one of the clips, I don't know which one you have, we were told this is it, it's done, nothing can happen. And all of a sudden these are some of the news reports that we get in a video. 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[Trump]

so we've just gotten a truth social from President Trump on all this. It's a long one, so bear with me here. The President wrote. We got him. My fellow Americans, over the past several hours, the United States military pulled off one of the most daring search and rescue operations in US History for one of our incredible crew member officers, who also happens to be a highly respected colonel and who I am thrilled to let you know is now safe and sound. This brave warrior was behind enemy lines in the treacherous mountains of Iran being hunted down by our enemies who were getting closer and closer by the hour, but was never truly alone because his commander in chief, Secretary of War, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and fellow war fighters were monitoring his location 24 hours a day and diligently planning his rescue. At my direction, the US Military sent dozens of aircraft armed with the most lethal weapons in the world to retrieve him. He sustained injuries, but he will be just fine. The miraculous search and rescue operation comes in addition to a successful rescue of another brave pilot yesterday, which we did not confirm because we did not want to jeopardize our second rescue operation. This is the first time in military memory that two US Pilots have been rescued separately deep in enemy territory. We will never leave an American war fighter behind. The fact that we were able to pull off both these operations without a single American killed or even wounded just proves once again that we have achieved overwhelming air dominance and superiority over the Iranian skies. And this is a moment that all Americans, Republican, Democrat and everyone else should be proud of and united around. We have the best, most professional and lethal military in the history of the world. God bless America. God bless our troops.

[Pat]

Right there. Okay, Vinny.

[Vinny]

Well, first, I just, you know, because, you know, the Democrats, I remember when, that, when it first happened. What, what day did it, did it get shot down? Was it Friday?

[Pat]

I think it's Friday.

[Vinny]

I think it was Friday, right, Rob? I'm pretty sure. But do you remember, Democrat, the left was losing their mind. And people like you have to understand, I get it. It's in a war and we all have our opinions, left, right, whatever, down the middle, I don't care, none of them. Because people are like, oh, we lost a plane. It's you know, 25 million 30. Whatever the price is. Did you hear one peep when Obama was sending $1.7 billion in planes that they had to gut out the seats just to send Iran this money? Or when Joe Biden removed all the disastrous withdrawal in Afghanistan and 13 of our service members died and how much money did they leave behind? On, on. Did you remember that, that video that we saw of all the, all the weapons, all the machine.

[Pat]

3 billion is a number.

[Vinny]

I don't know what something insane.

[Tom]

It was big. They left basically two full battalions of full equipment.

[Vinny]

Yeah. And then apparently when, when we were fighting them, they were finding on the dead bodies. It was United States military weaponry that the Afghan Afghanis were holding and some, some Iraqis as well. But anyway from the mission standpoint and being in the Air Force, this was an Air Force colonel. So the first guy landed, you know, in a safe spot. The other guy was alone like he said for two days. I don't think people understand two days. You don't have food, you don't have water. You just have your uniform and you have the apparently about the helmet and everything is tracking. They know exactly where you are, Tom. They know, they know everything. He had a sidearm. IRGC is coming after you. The, the militias local bounty holder, just citizens are trying to come out there because they know how much the irgc I'm talking about the people that are, that are loyal to the irgc. And then Pat, he's in the, he's hiding in a mountain ridge seven, 7,000ft up. He finally gets to hide. The CIA runs a fake operation. They're giving Iran bad intel. So Iran's going somewhere the opposite way. And then all of a sudden seal team 6 shows up with the A JSOC which is a joint special operations command package. That's drones, gunship, gunships, fast movers starting to line up every Pat. They start bombing the convoy that's going the wrong way. They grab him at night mission. That's how we roll, stabilize him and they get him out. And I get it, it's a war. But you have to understand this is what America is about. Everybody was like they're going to leave him. He's going to be a prisoner of war. He's going to be get, get tortured. We, America does not leave anybody behind. And I think that's a message for everybody else watching. You hit one of our freaking guys, you hit one of our birds. We, we don't care what the Outcome. We're going to go in there, we're going to grab him, we're going to take his butt out of there, period.

[Tom]

Tom, I. I think that this is a testimony of how we value life versus how the rest of the world values life. And our guys get trained on. I'm going to mispronounce it. I think it's called sear training. Survival of Asia Searscape here that says, hey, step one, survive. Step two, evade. Then if cornered, resist, and then put yourself in a position to be rescued, because we're coming for you because we value. And so one man's life is worth the risk. But this was phenomenal to me. This was like, look how much better it's got since Jimmy Carter. Maduro, they expected. And I've said this before, we can't say who, but Department of War. I sat in on a meeting that Pat was invited to. Thank you for that. And I'll tell you what happened. They said they thought they were gonna lose 10 guys, extracted Missouri, and they had one pilot that had gotten shot and survived. So when you think about, we're willing to pay the cost to go get one man, and we put the training. That is the testimony, I think, to the training and what the US Armed forces is all about and the value of life. This is not just, oh, you're just sending our boys off to death. No, no, no, no, no. That's not the way this country does it. We know war is dangerous. We know we're going to lose. But look at the recent missions where they haven't lost anybody. And this is. This is amazing. And they had the whole thing. Program. At the end of the Runway, I guess there was sand or mud that was deeper than anticipated, and the front landing gear of the C130 gouged in the mud at the end of the landing. So they're like, well, crap, we can't take this. This car home. And so they had plan B extracted, all of them, nobody left behind. And they said, yeah, now go hit. And then we hit our own plane and says, you know, we're not going to let you go. Take radios and all the things out of this. And I just thought it was just amazing to the training. You said it. Well, Vinnie and I just.

[Pat]

Can. Can you imagine? Can you imagine this, Adam? I'm gonna come through last year in a minute, but can you. Can you imagine you sent 200 people to save two lives. Yeah, 200 to save two lives.

[Vinny]

That's America.

[Pat]

I'm at my army Unit, September of 97. I've told the story before. They tell us there's a movie being coming out here very soon that is about your unit. You guys got to get in there watching. And we watch Saving Private Ryan. They went to save one guy. Can you imagine the pride America has to go save one person? One person, okay, to do something like this. And, and again, I, I, I, I Sear School. I remember Sears School was one of the schools that when I was getting ready to reenlist and go to the fifth group, 18 Delta, this is one I asked for. Everything I said, I want to go to DLI because I speak a lot of languages. I want to go to Sears School. I want to go to Airborne. I want to go to fifth Group. And then I want you to send me to Vicenza, Italy. There was a military unit. I wanted to go there last minute. I decided to get out to get into business, and, and, and the rest is history. But my orders were all of these jobs that I asked for. And this is not an easy program to go through. Tom. This is not an easy program. A part of this program, if I'm not mistaken, they teach you also in case, if you get caught as POW and how to handle that. It's a very, very, you know, like, survival, evasion, resistance, and escape. Like, what do you do if you're a prisoner of war? They trained you to what to do when they're asking you questions, all this stuff. It's one of the toughest trainings to go through. We have such a great military. This is part of it where one of my kids comes up to me, says, dad, I want to go to the military. I'm like, hey, you know, so you remember this conversation? We were at dinner. I said, we got to go to dinner. You got to talk to Vinny about it. She's asking, dad, what if we go? You know, what if I said, vinny, what do you want to tell him? He wants to go in the military. So Vinny's Air Force. I'm Army. And it's like, look, it's not like the guy needs to go for money. He's going because he is. He loves America so much. Like, he, he wants to say, this is what I want to do. So we're taking him to a military unit for him to make a decision whether he wants to do this or not. As a. He said, the only thing for me is he's, he wants to do it as a career, as a kid, as a father. You want your kids to be, you know, closer to You. But look, if he's got that kind of a pride.

[Vinny]

But you know how much I want. I want. I hope people understand and realize, because I already know. I already know the people. Like, oh, but send your own kids. Yeah, yeah. Guess what? I. I was there for the conversation. And when he brought it up, there wasn't one second when you said, hell, no. You said, if that's what you want to do, that's what you're going to do. And it was that. You nailed it. Take none of them ever have to do anything. If that was the case, he literally said, I want to go, and I want to do this for the United States. That kid loves this freaking country.

[Pat]

America. Adam.

[Adam]

Well, this was an Easter miracle. And the pilot that was found, you know, allegedly the three words that he said is God is good, which basically sort of preempted when Trump basically said, praise Allah. This was more important than we're even making it. And I'll tell you why. What if he was actually caught? What would that scene look like? What would this regime do to this hostage? You know, we've said this before. This is a terrorist organization that's basically holding not only the Middle east hostage, the entire world hostage. If they had a nuclear weapon. They started off their. Their reign in 1979 by taking how many hostages? 500 hostages.

[Pat]

I want to say 66 were 444 days.

[Adam]

Oh, okay. It was only 66.

[Pat]

66 for 444 days, of which 444

[Adam]

days is what I'm thinking.

[Pat]

13 were kids, one one. 13 were women that they released, and then one was ill. So it ended up being 52 that stayed for the four. 440 days.

[Adam]

4,444 days was the days. I was thinking about the people, but dozens and dozens of people for over a year held hostage at this regime. Do you know what this war would look like right now if this pilot and the. The. The two pilots were actually caught? Do you know what they would do parading this person around? Do you know what they would say to the. No boots on the ground crew? What they would say, I told you so. Thank God. Thank Allah that these people were found. They said it was the first time in 20 years we've had a rescue mission.

[Vinny]

No, no.

[Adam]

At this mission like this, at this level.

[Pat]

No, it's 1980, 46 years ago. Okay.

[Adam]

Even that long.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Vinny]

Unbelievable. The same amount of time as these guys came into power, and by the

[Pat]

way, by the same country, by the same regime, really, by the same people got it. So 1980 was Khomeini. Now it's the new Islamic Revolutionary Guard post. Khamenei. Khamenei, son. So it's not like the level of hate and animos. He hasn't changed. The only different thing that's different, Adam, is the president. That. Back then it was Carter, today it's Trump. The only difference.

[Adam]

Yeah, I mean, look, I was watching a video this weekend about it showed clips of every president since Reagan, Bush, okay? Clinton, Bush number two, Obama, Biden, Trump. Every single one was saying the exact same thing. What was it? We have to deal with Iran. We cannot allow them to have nuclear weapons. We, we have to take this regime head on. Every single president for the last 40 years has been saying this. Trump is the only president with the courage and the, and the balls to actually pull this off. Thank God they found this guy because it's be a lot worse of a scenario optics wise if he was actually caught.

[Tom]

It is.

[Pat]

And by the way, again, this part about life, that's very hard to. Because most of us in life, we're going to make mistakes and most of us don't. Learn about it, Learn from it. You're like, ah, it's okay. I'm just going to. No, like the other day we had a meeting. Tom, you remember, it's me, you. I think it's RJ and Paul. Okay? And we're sitting down and something happened we're not happy about. Okay? And it's like, well, what do we do now? The guy said this and da, da, da, da. I said, look, here's where I'm at. What could we have done differently? One guy says, I don't think anything. I said, that's never the case. What could we have done differently? And we came up with two things,

[Tom]

if you remember that and one we already knew about. We felt we missed.

[Pat]

That's right, we missed. And we're like, okay, that's our mistake. I don't care what the guy did. What can we do? Think about this, Vinny. 1980, you have 66 hostages, 52 you're trying to get out. Carter's the president. They come up with this project called Operation Eagle Claw. Rob, if you want to pull it up, okay? So they combine Delta, Seal, Ranger, Air Force. Let's go get these 52 hostages that are in Iran held by Islamic Revolutionary Guard Khomeini at the time. Go get him. They go out on the way there, I think it's eight helicopters, one C, 130 of the eight helicopters. One of them has hydraulic issues. He comes back, the other one, the pilot's getting, you know, he's getting confused. He's kind of not feeling well. So he comes back. So now we're left with six helicopters, right? Of the six helicopters that we're left with one of the helicopters starting to have major, major hydraulic issues. Heating up like it's almost on fire. It's not, but it's super hot. He decides to get up and flies right. Because it's so dusty. It's desert. They're not used to this. Oh my God, how are we going to handle this? He flies right into the C130.

[Vinny]

Oh damn.

[Pat]

Five people get killed. I think three on the helicopter, five on the C130 or the other way around, but it's eight total that get killed. The pilot of the helicopter makes it. I think his name is Schaefer. If I'm not mistaken. He makes it. Till today. He believes all those eight people died. He takes the blame. Till today. He has severe burns. These guys get out of the helicopter and guess what ends up happening. It's a failed mission. Publicly it was 130, 150 people that were deployed to this for 52 people this time around. If we don't learn from those mistakes. The military has been preparing for this for decades to not so the credit goes to our military servicemen of how they. Can you imagine? You get a call by the way, you know how many guys that are service guys are like, man, I wish I would have gotten this job. You know this. I wanted to go back. I wanted to be able to do something like this. Can you imagine what kind of an opportunity. There's guys that truly wanted this job to be deployed with guys that are hardcore gunko. But Major, Major, shout out to our military leaders who used a massive embarrassing crisis. Some say this could have been the reason why Jimmy Carter didn't get reelected, by the way.

[Tom]

Really?

[Pat]

Yeah. Because the moment Reagan won it immediately Khomeini dropped the 52. He gave him back immediate 444 days that we read about. So it was so embarrassing. But the military sat down and said when the next time this happens, we're going to do it right. And this time around they brought the CIA in and why they bring the CIA in? Just to throw, throw the enemy off. And then he's like, wait a minute. Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. Boom. It's gone. Boom, we're out of here. And you know when I talked to the President on Saturday, he said, I said Mr. President, how. What's happening with the two? What are we going to do? Says Patrick. 10 or 12 hours we'll make. Obviously I can't say anything, but it's like 10 or 12 hours. Everyone's going to hear about what we did. You'll hear about it in about 10 or 12 hours. He says this. In about 10 or 12 hours, the world's going to find out how we got both of them back. Can you imagine this guy? Can you imagine? So anyways, that's that. Listen, whatever you do, if you're walking in the airport, you see these military servicemen, we have to tip our hat and say, hey, thank you for your service. Anybody that's wearing the uniform or wore the uniform, major, salute to you. Especially the 200 people that went out there to save these two lives of one of them being a colonel. Anyways, let's go to the next story. While this has taken place, the President comes out and puts out a threat 48 hours to Iran. He writes another one of his love letters on Easter. By the way, he got all these other days to write this. Was it Easter or day before? It was Easter. And he says Tuesday will be power plant day, bridge day, all wrapped up in one in Iran. There will be nothing like it. Open to the. Open the effing straight, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell. Just watch Praise be to Allah. Okay? At least he's being respectful and he's, you know, saying praise to God. At least he's saying praise to God. Allah is truly. The meaning of Allah is God. Like, if you think about the word, the meaning of Allah's has got. So while they're doing this, then all of a sudden you see some clips coming out. By the way, one thing with Iran, you got to give them credit for their Lego videos. Have you seen these LEGO videos they're making to make fun of the President or hex it or all that stuff? Anyways, we don't need to get into the Lego video. But, Rob, did you see the video of them targeting the $30 billion plant that OpenAI has in. Is it in UAE? I think it's somewhere there that they have a $30 billion plan. Rob, I can tell you if you don't. It's a data center, Vinnie, that they.

[Vinny]

Iran?

[Pat]

Yeah, not in Iran. Not in Iran. It's in one of the Gulf states that they have. And they're like, oh, really? Let us show you what we're going to be doing. So if you just type in open airan $30 billion. Okay. Open air Iran, $30 billion data center. I just found it. I'll find it. I'm going to text it to you, right? Oh, it's in the note. Yeah, yeah, it's in the notes. Rob, if you. If you look at the notes, I have it in the notes all the way at the top. You should find it. So I'm going to text it to you anyway so you have it. So what is Iran saying? Iran is saying, just go through your notes. I texted to you as well. Iran is saying, really? You guys want to play this hard? We're going to go after all your, you know, infrastructures that you have. So now what this means we don't know. Both sides are threatening which threat you're going to trust. Watch it zoom in a little bit here. The guy behind this history photograph does a phenomenal, phenomenal job. The Islamic regime released a video threatening to bomb OpenAI's $30 billion data center in Abu Dhabi. Watch this. Vinny, Go ahead. Go ahead, Rob. Think Verizon is expensive? Think again. Anyone can bring their AT&T or T mobile bill to a Verizon store today and we'll give you a better deal. So bring us your bill. Walk in, run in, pogo sticking, teleport, if you can ride on the back of a rollerblading yak or flying on the wings of a majestic falcon. Any way you can bring your AT&T or T mobile bill to a Verizon store today, and we'll give you a better deal on the best network based on RootMetric's best overall mobile network performance. US second half 2025. All rights preserved. Must provide a very recent postpaid consumer mobile bill in the name of the person redeeming the deal. Additional terms, conditions and restrictions apply. This episode is brought to you by indeed. Stop waiting around for the perfect candidate. Instead, use Indeed sponsored Jobs to find the right people with the right skills fast. It's a simple way to make sure your listing is the first candidate. C. According to Indeed data, sponsored jobs have four times more applicants than non sponsored jobs. So go build your dream team today with Indeed. Get a $75 sponsored job credit at Indeed.com podcast. Terms and conditions apply. K Pop Demon Hunters, Haja Boy's Breakfast

[Vinny]

Meal and Hunt Tricks Meal have just dropped at McDonald's. They're calling this a battle for the fans.

[Pat]

What do you say to that, Rumi? It's not a battle. So glad the Saja boys could take breakfast and give our meal the rest of the day.

[Vinny]

It is an honor to share.

[Pat]

No, it's our honor.

[Vinny]

It is our larger honor. No, really, stop.

[Pat]

You can really feel the respect in this battle.

[Tom]

Pick a meal to pick a side

[Adam]

and participate in McDonald's while supplies last.

[Pat]

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[Tom]

White guy.

[Pat]

Yeah, that's not David Solomon. So, Tom, you see this message from the president on Easter. Then you see Iran not, not holding them back. They're like. And then you see the report comes in saying Iran is willing to have the conversation about the nukes, that, hey, we're willing to not do anything with it. I think. What is the number? 440 at 60% enrichment? Is it 440?

[Tom]

What is the number kilogram at?

[Pat]

I think it's 440 kilogram at 60% enrichment. Is that could. 460 kilograms of 60% enriched uranium. Enough to develop 11 nuclear bombs is what they said they have.

[Tom]

That's 1,000 pounds because a kilogram is 2.2.

[Pat]

2.2. So, Vinny, they said, they said this is what we have.

[Vinny]

They're admitting it.

[Pat]

460 at 60% that can develop 11 nuclear bombs is what they're saying. So now there's rumors of maybe they want to negotiate, maybe they don't want to negotiate. What do you think is really going on here, Vinny? I'm come to you right after Tom.

[Tom]

Well, first of all, I separate the statements they make from the true intent of the regime. The true intent of the regime has shown time and time again and Vinny, we've been watching this together, that they're full of crap and they don't negotiate as a standard actor. A standard actor usually wants to protect something. These people are like North Korea. They don't care what Happens to their people with whatever's left, they will rule and they will do it their way. And so they lose people, they don't care. They killed 3,000 of their own people and just hand waved over it, but it sounds, there does appear to be a crack in the door, what they're talking about here on this. Because remember, if they tell us here, you take the thousand pounds and then we're going to consent to this monitoring and stuff, you know, that would surprise me because their ultimate goal, Pat, is this current regime. The ultimate goal is just pure death. That's all they want. And they are trying to attack their neighbors to get the neighbors to convince Trump to stop. And so this is consistent, this video is consistent with their threats and activity path that we've been seeing for the past two weeks. Attack the friends and get the friends to be whispering to Trump, please make this guy stop. Just stop on your side. Make this guy stop. Then that's their strategy. So I see it as sort of unchanged in their strategy, but I see a little bit of light, I see a crack in the door, Vinny.

[Vinny]

And by the way, because at the end of the day, as much as you love it or you hate it, wherever you stand on this thing, we are at war, full stop, ok? Propaganda is going to be played on either side. I mean, they're putting out those videos. Rob, can you play the video that I just sent you? I sent Rob a video right now of their. Apparently they sent out. Who's the new guy, Pat? The new Khomeini.

[Adam]

Khomeini Part 3.

[Vinny]

They put this video and apparently it's him, Rob, walking into like a nuclear facility. Did you guys see this one?

[Pat]

Of course, Bob.

[Vinny]

Yeah, go ahead, Robbie. He's not wearing glow sticks. Normally because he party like that, he should have glow sticks. But that's him, the owner, nuclear reactor.

[Pat]

So what point are you making?

[Vinny]

So what I'm saying.

[Pat]

No, no, what I'm saying is, I'm asking him, what are you saying?

[Vinny]

Yeah, exactly, exactly what you think that they're saying. So now, like, listen, war is ugly. I, we, we understand. What drives me crazy is that we're at a point right now where I feel like people are literally Americans, literally are hoping that we lose. I've seen it, I've heard it and it's like, love it or hate it again. And by the way, there's never going to be a war that we ever fight, that we ever fight, that every single American is like, yay, go. I remember when I was in after 9, 11 and George Bush and all the lies that we had about, about that. Yeah, everybody, bro, the majority of us were like, yay, let's go. And then we found out that it was a lie and things shift. But in this situation, Pat, with these guys, with what they're doing, like there's no Internet, you can't even hear what the people are saying. But the leaders, their leaders are basically saying, hey, listen, we will freaking nuke everybody. We will kill everybody. This is how the war is going. So Trump, by the way, who do you believe more, the IRGC or do you believe Donald Trump? Tom? I believe Donald.

[Tom]

Oh, I believe Trump if the IRGC is speaking. You know, if they told me what time is it, I'd audit it.

[Vinny]

Yeah. And then one thing, Pat, the one thing that I saw because apparently Trump spoke with Trey Yangst, he's the chief foreign correspondent for Fox News. Rob has this clip which I'm saying about like by the way, that video that they showed, the earlier one that you showed, they're showing all the other people that they're willing to strike in UAE and all that. Like, is anybody else going to help, Pat? Is anybody going to do their part or do you think that they are doing their part? All the UAE people, all the people over there that, I mean, our assets are at all these bases, are they helping at all?

[Pat]

They don't have a choice, Vinny, because they're the neighbors.

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Pat]

You know how it's like, well, I'm on neighbor watch. If you live in the neighborhood, you best make sure the neighborhood is safe. If you're on neighbor watch and how

[Vinny]

is it militarily for them or would it be monetarily coming from them? Because I remember you said it, pay the 200, give us some money, something.

[Pat]

If you're behind close, what leverage do these Gulf states actually have? Actually ask yourself, what leverage do the Gulf states have? What

[Vinny]

the golf.

[Pat]

Leverage. What leverage do the Gulf states have?

[Vinny]

Leverage to get involved.

[Pat]

Us like to us. Like what, what do they, what do we need for the Gulf state?

[Adam]

They got one thing, man. Oil.

[Vinny]

Oil.

[Pat]

Do we need their oil?

[Vinny]

No, not really.

[Pat]

We have our reserve oil for our allies. Yes, because you can't have your allies getting their asses handed to them because then you lose your allies. So you need not Trump's. The president's going to say we have enough oil to give it to anybody because we got Venezuela and we got again, sequencing wise, if they did it the other way around, Iran first, Venezuela next issue. He does Venezuela first. Iran Next. Which means what if you need oil? We're in control of Venezuela right now. So strategically, it was a brilliant move to do Venezuela first. So don't worry. We got enough oil to give you right now. That's going to be the argument. But what leverage does Gulf states have, Tom?

[Tom]

They don't. You be the Sultan of Oman. Okay.

[Pat]

Okay.

[Vinny]

Hold on.

[Tom]

I'm Trump. How are you doing this morning?

[Vinny]

Very good.

[Tom]

I saw that the missiles hit the desalination plant in the hotel. Everybody okay? Everything good?

[Vinny]

Not good, but okay.

[Tom]

Okay. So what's going on?

[Vinny]

Nothing.

[Tom]

No, Vinny, honestly, what do you say to me at that point?

[Vinny]

Yeah, what are you doing to help?

[Tom]

What am I doing? I need your help.

[Vinny]

What do you want?

[Adam]

Are you guys trying to do an accent? Just lean into the accent if you want to do it or not.

[Tom]

No, you see what I'm going to say? I said, Mr. President, what do you need us to do? We need this guy to stop. But he's been doing this forever. He's fearlessly doing it. Now he's attacking us, says we got to take it. And you hear what they've been saying.

[Vinny]

They.

[Tom]

They've been saying. And the Saudis have been saying, you gotta finish the job here. That's what they've been saying for the past three weeks.

[Vinny]

Yeah, but what the. Fine finishes.

[Tom]

Thank God nobody was killed at the hotel. That's very, very good. Is your water okay? Good. And they said, Mr. President, we gotta finish the job. That's what they've been saying to him. Yeah, that's. So the Gulf states, not only do they have no choice, but they've been looking toward economic future. What have they been doing for 10 years in Saudi Arabia? Building. They built an amusement park. They've attracted three F1 races. They have leave golf. They have all these things. They had the World cup over there. You see, they're desperately trying to connect more to the west that can't stop. So you're going to lean back, cross your arms over your chest, say, well, good luck with Iran. Let me know when it's over. Mr. Trump.

[Vinny]

Yeah. No, no.

[Tom]

They're going to say, hey, you got to finish the job. That's what the Gulf states have been saying. They're saying, how can I help in some way?

[Vinny]

Got you.

[Tom]

And I sent.

[Vinny]

And the clip that I was talking about, I think you saw it. Trey Yings is the chief foreign correspondent for Fox News. He said the president sent guns to the Iranian protesters earlier this year. And I'm assuming it was when the Protest started. And remember the Kurds that we were talking about, the Kurds were getting armed and they were going to go and fight. Look at what, look at what the president told Trey. Go ahead.

[Tom]

Now, the president also provided new details on what happened earlier this year as the Iranian regime took to the streets and slaughtered what the, what the president tells me is 45,000 civilians in their own country. After that took place, President Trump told me the United States sent guns to the Iranian protesters. He tells me we sent them a lot of guns. We sent them through the Kurds. And the president says he thinks the Kurds kept them. He went on to say we sent guns to the protesters, a lot of them. And so a number of headlines here from my conversation with President Trump are of this taking place more than a month into Operation Epic Fury and in the aftermath of that successful US Operation.

[Adam]

Over.

[Vinny]

So that's, I mean, Adam, that's pretty like I remember we were talking about should we send guns? Because we're thinking about options. Apparently from the president to him, we sent guns to the Kurds to give to the Iranian people to fight for themselves. And he's saying that the Kurds never gave them the guns and they're supposed to be allied with them. How do you feel about that, Pat?

[Pat]

How do you maneuver through that? Because you need them to pass the weapons down.

[Vinny]

Yes.

[Pat]

And so do the Kurds really want to be against the president? I don't understand that move right there. That's a very dumb move. So now you don't pass it down to the people because what, you don't trust anybody? Did they promise that they were going to and they didn't?

[Vinny]

That's a great question.

[Pat]

What a double dumb move. If that was the case, you need to, do you not want the IRGC to fall? Like, what, what is the next request you're going to make that he's going to trust you now? So now the problem is who does the president have an outlet to give the weapons to if he chooses to do so? That gets to the people who now you know who. Now who you do with?

[Vinny]

Nobody.

[Pat]

That's the point. So I don't understand the logic behind, and I don't know all about the details of the Kurd stuff, but I don't understand the logic behind it. Adam, your thoughts?

[Adam]

Well, listen, there's one key word that summarizes everything that's going on. And as this concept of hell. So what did Trump say exactly? Open up the damn Strait of Hormuz or all hell will brain loose Right. Using the F word. Glory to be to God. There was multiple quotes like that. Do you happen to have the quote of what the leaders of Iran had to say? They basically said, open the gates of hell. If you mess with us, we're going to open the gates of hell. This whole concept of hell. Why am I saying this word, hell? Because we think that this is a military war or a strategic war to end their nuclear ambitions. We think this is possibly an economic war. Now they're talking about obviously we know sanctions and banking and taking out their oils, trade of Hormuz. But at the end of the day, here's what's really going on. Whether you believe it or not, whether you want to say it or not, this is a religious war. This is at its core a deeply, deeply ideological war. This is a class of civilizations. So if you don't think that this is history repeating itself, go look up the Crusades. And of course Israel and Jerusalem are caught in the middle of this because this all started this go round on October 7th. So here's what I know about the Islamic Republic of Iran. They are willing to die for this cause. And this is why I respect the enemy. They will die, they will go to their death, they will become martyrs, they will practice jihad, they will go to see Allah for this. And I respect that. At the end of the day, we just talked about how we are going to save our boys lives. The pilot that went down. There's a famous phrase in the Israeli and Palestinian conflict and it's this. They said there will be peace when you value life more than you value death. And this is who these people are. That's why you constantly hear they're a death culture. My final point is this, and I'll keep harping on this, this is the number one most theocratic regime in the world. What does that mean? There's zero separation between church and state or mosque and state in Iran. You know, in America we say, well, we get the First Amendment, you know, you know, freedom to, freedom to join, freedom to do this, freedom to speech. We have all our freedoms in Iran. Everything, every decision, every economic decision, every social decision, everything that is made comes from Allah. How do you defeat that? How do you defeat an ideology? I don't know. But here's what I know. They think they're the good guys. We know that we're the good guys. All their neighbors know that they're the bad guys, but they think that they're the good guys. So how do you defeat these?

[Vinny]

But, but these. But the but the, the leaders, the people that are in charge in Iran, think about it, they can play this game, Adam, because you know what, we know that there's like, this is civilian casualties that we're talking about. You blow up all these things that we're talking about, the bridges, the infrastructure, the oil, all that desalinization, whatever. It's, the people are going to suffer. The guys, you think the guys on top are going to suffer? These are military people, they have bunker, they're chilling. Those guys are good. They know that they're using the civilian population as leverage. And that's what I don't care about. And the worst thing is, Pat, we can't hear. And I'm being, I'm being genuinely inquisitive. Have we heard anything from the people? I hear people in LA like Iranians, like, you know, shut up, we need to, we need to be, you know, free and all that stuff. We need to be liberated. But boy, I haven't heard anything from civilians at all in Iran, have you?

[Adam]

You bring up a very good point. And I'll ask this question, who cares about the people of Iran more? The United States and the western world or the Islamic Republic?

[Vinny]

They don't give it, they don't give a damn. But here they just care about.

[Adam]

But that's nuance there, Pat. What percentage of the people of Iran are done with this regime since sake of this regime regime? 80%.

[Vinny]

80%.

[Pat]

The number the study done by Gammon in Netherlands is 81% who are done with the IRGC. There's a video of a young lady. Rob, if you want to play this, agree or disagree. This is a video that's been going viral. Did you verify if this was a real video? Rob, can you go down to see if Grok asked the question while Adam gives his response. Just verify to see if this video is a real video or not. Go ahead Adam, continue.

[Adam]

No, I mean ultimately what I would assume is that 20% of the country wants this regime to stay intact, right? The loudest, most vocal 10% of the country want this regime to stay intact. Where you have 80 to upwards as maybe possibly 90% of the country that is basically like we are so done with this. So what's the opposite of theocratic, right? Secular. The fastest growing religion in Iran is completely agnostic, atheist or even Christian. Mosques are closing down. It's just testament to this that people are done with this regime. And at the end of the day, and this is why I keep saying this, you know, who's going to pay the price, the biggest price, the people, the average on Iran, obviously, whether it's economic, whether it's military, or whether it's jihad, internal. This is going to end ugly somehow.

[Tom]

And it kind of underlines just how bad this is when you have to turn to the Kurds. And if you know anything about the Kurds.

[Pat]

Stupid. That's such a dumb move by them. The hell are you doing? What are you doing?

[Vinny]

Yep.

[Pat]

Like, the Kurds hate the irgc. They don't want the irgc. But then you don't pass the weapons. When the President's telling you, whoever the leader. If the story is true and that actually happened, whoever the leaders, you're an absolute moron. Moron. If you told him that I'm gonna pass it. And you don't, you're a moron.

[Vinny]

And they keep the word.

[Pat]

You're a moron or you're supporters of irgc. That's who you are.

[Tom]

They have this saying.

[Pat]

Again, I don't know the whole. We don't know, but if that's exactly what happened, that the President is saying this, what are you doing?

[Tom]

The Kurdish military guy, he has a saying that I looked up and I think what he said was, I have no friend but the mountains. Right. Where they live.

[Pat]

No shit, Sherlock. But in this situation, you need friends.

[Tom]

Exactly.

[Pat]

They've been isolated, right. Are they 10%, 8 to 12%, something like that. Can you pull up what percentage of. You know what percentage of Iranians are Kurds?

[Tom]

Remember, these people have been abused on three sides. Turkey doesn't betrayed them. Turkey betrayed them. Remember Saddam Hussein? What was that city? Halabjah. The chemical. Right. On the transition between Bush Sr. And Reagan. This is what started the problems for the Kurds. Where Saddam Hussein, I believe, is Halabjah. Halabja or something like that. He used chemical weapons as a test and killed all these people in this village towns. How'd it go? We have a new weapon, sir. Really? It was the Kurds that he tested it on and it was the.

[Pat]

Yeah. I don't understand this move.

[Tom]

So you would think that they would. With that history, you would think that they would. They would have some favor to assist them, to be part of a solution. I don't get it either.

[Pat]

Yeah, I don't know. And by the way, in the interim, five hours ago, report came from Wall Street Journal that apparently Israel just killed the number two guy in the IRGC strategist. You saw this or not? The head of intelligence, Islamic Revolutionary Guard, Major General, Brigadier General. Reports say he's a High ranking guy. He's the number two guy. They just took him out. His name, Rob, if you see it. Do you see it, Rob? Yeah, that guy right there, Brigadier General, they just took him out. And a few hours ago, in the heart of Tehran, Sunday night, it's military set. So this is another guy that they're taking out one by one by one. They're going, you know, one by one by one they're going, you know, you know who hasn't been taken out? The two guys that are negotiating on behalf of Iran. One of the guys, Abbas, if I'm not mistaken. Abbas, if they take him out, how the hell are you going to negotiate? Because he's the lead negotiator. Abbas Arokchi, Minister of Foreign affairs of Iran There was a video of him showing when he was mourning the loss of one of his best friends that was going viral. I don't know if you guys saw this or not. And you know, he has become a hero in Iran. Like this guy's become a hero and loved in Iran. Like the more and more war continues, this guy's gonna. This guy's right now becoming slowly the face of Iran. If this guy stays alive, he could end up having a very, very. He already has a very powerful position, but I think his upside, he can go all the way to the top with the way he's doing things. So I'm surprised they haven't taken him out.

[Vinny]

I was gonna tell you.

[Adam]

Very lonely at the top if you're the Ayatollah.

[Vinny]

Well, here's my question, though.

[Tom]

They who?

[Pat]

Pat? Tom. If they take like Israel. When I say they. If Israel takes them out, how the hell are you supposed to negotiate?

[Vinny]

I was going to say they could. I mean, they can get to him by the way he's on video every single day. If they want to. Pat, they could kill him. They.

[Pat]

We know what, though? Let me just say this.

[Adam]

You think so?

[Vinny]

I. Absolutely.

[Adam]

What evidence do you have that Israel or allies can take out any of their top leaders?

[Vinny]

What are you being facetious?

[Adam]

Okay, of course.

[Vinny]

Well, that would.

[Adam]

I'd be very. Whoever I am in Iran for. For whatever reason I'd have to.

[Tom]

Adam, for the last three weeks I've been seeing hits.

[Pat]

But here's what I would say.

[Adam]

Sarcasm.

[Pat]

He's joking. But here's what I would say to you. What I would say to you, Adam, is the following. If they take him out, I'm just saying this right now. You don't have any desire to negotiate

[Adam]

so that from Iran?

[Pat]

No, no, From Israel.

[Vinny]

From Israel.

[Pat]

Like, let's just say if I. If I. The US you saw the tweets, Rob, that Iran has agreed to. To the nuclear request from America. We send it in a group text. I send it last night, and then Humberto started verifying my messages. Do you remember that? Last night? Right there, Rob? I just put a thumbs up on it if you found it. Yeah. Iran has conceded that they will not acquire a nuke, per Fox News. And this is not April Fool's. That's April 5th. Okay. And then others started retweeting that as well. Rob, can you see on the bottom of that if Grok verified that or not? Just go to the bottom and see if there's any kind of a verification on that, on what's going on. So here's what. You do that while you're doing it. I'll give my thoughts, and you can just check the story and verify. Thanks, Rob. So you know what it makes me think about, Tom? This is the part if they kill a bus. If they kill, there's no interest to negotiate. That's simple. So if you kill, you're going for all the marbles. So now if Witkoff and Kushner are actually negotiating with them, and he's the lead guy, you take them out. You never wanted to negotiate in the first place, which, by the way, guess what? Now you know exactly where they're at. Yes. So then. So then the criticism becomes, look, you really. Wink, wink. You're not trying to negotiate, trying to take them out. And by the way, fair. There's a lot of. There's a lot of Iranians in Iran that are like, stop. Saying for them to stop and end the war. We want this. The Iranian people say, we want this. We want you to come in, even if our lives are on the line, we want you to come and take this out, et cetera, et cetera. I think there was somebody that tweeted something saying, take out the power plants. And everyone's like, what are you talking about? Take out the power plants? You know? Who was it that said, take out the power plants? Iran's power plants.

[Vinny]

I think Trump tweeted that he's gonna. They were gonna give him a warning and then bomb. Yeah, the bridges, the power plants. Which was earlier. It was earlier.

[Pat]

Yeah. So.

[Vinny]

So again, I'm sorry.

[Pat]

Laura Loomer. That's right.

[Vinny]

Laura Loomer.

[Pat]

Yeah, that's who it was. Yeah, that's who it was. And so, you know, Laura's been getting, you know, she. She's saying a lot of stuff and

[Vinny]

take out their grid.

[Pat]

I mean, look, the Ghassam Soleimani niece and the daughter and whatever that is, that's a part of her reporting that came out and all of a sudden went all the way to the top. And Rubio's like, hey, you guys got to get out.

[Vinny]

Yep.

[Pat]

So you want to go to that story rap. You want to go to the story of the. And Vinny, I'm going to come to you. So Vinny, what happened here? Ghassam Soleimani's niece and daughter, apparently. Who Gassam Soleimani is the one that the president killed on his first term. And now the niece and the daughter are in the US Hanging out and all of a sudden we get a report that Rubio is going after them. What happened with that story?

[Vinny]

So, yeah, his niece and her daughter are in Los Angeles and their green cards were revoked because she originally came in the country in 2015, she got asylum in 2019 and then permanent residency in 2021. Then they found out that she had gone back to Iran four different times after claiming she couldn't safely return there, which is. It was a lie. Then on top of that, she says that they're saying and they have proof that there was online praising while she's here of the Iranian regime and celebrating the attacks on Americans while living comfortably here. So. And there was one other report, Pat. I told Tom about it there there's a physician daughter of Iranian official that was booted from the UNs, her and her, her husband, her doctor, Fatema Ordashir Lahe Jani, whose father is Ali Lahajani, served at the Secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council before being killed in the US Airstrike. So there they've been kicked out. But here's my thing, Tom, why are we letting. And Pat, I want to ask you too, the niece of a guy we literally had to kill stay in America in the first place. We're talking about Hossam Soleimani. He's the, he was the head of Iraq's code force, I believe. And then one of the most anti American terror figures in the world. He, he had, you know, blamed the death of hundreds of American troops in Iraq through proxies and roadside bombs and attacks carried out by the forces funded. So what? Why would you leave. I, I'm so confused, Tom. Why would you leave them here after all these years? And he's a freaking. He hates us. Do you think they have a positive side? Yeah, they're in Los Angeles they're probably shopping on Rodeo Drive. Why would you keep them there? I think that's bigger than a. Than one immigration lie that shows the system is broken. If. If the. The guy who has blood, American blood on his hands, their family got asylum and then a green card and living a life, and they're cheering against us when Americans are dying. I'm so confused.

[Tom]

I don't. I don't get it either. I don't understand why she would still be here. And when, you know, when Solomon finds out we're messing with his niece, he's going to be pissed he's dead. But. Oh, that's right.

[Vinny]

Yeah, he's gone.

[Tom]

All right. Gosh.

[Pat]

Actually good. That was funny.

[Vinny]

That was good.

[Tom]

No, I look at it like this.

[Pat]

Don't drive by yourself.

[Tom]

I look at it like this. By the way, do you know who some of the greatest informants for the CIA have been? Who says? Relatives of dictators who don't want to die. Relatives that were part of families. Marcos. When Marcos lost his marbles and then he left the Philippines, and then Imelda. Marcos was crazy. Had buried men alive in concrete while trying to build a concert hall, which was to herself. It was just terrible, terrible, terrible. There were people. When it was all overthrown, Pat, they were over there like, hey, man, I may be his nephew, but. But I'm not about this. And they provided assistance. So did they provide assistance? And then they stopped providing assistance. That's Manuel Noriega. When Manuel Noriega was working with the US CIA and then stopped providing assistance, what do we do? We went down and invited him to come spend the rest of his life in a Florida prison. And we did. So you never know what's going on.

[Pat]

What are you saying, though? Are you saying that what I'm saying is you never maybe given us intel.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Tom]

You never know what's going on. Were they helping? And now they're not helping.

[Pat]

They've said some very bad things about America. But that's the thing. So.

[Tom]

So to me, that's what I'm saying. Is that the flip or were they always like that? If they're always like that, then why the hell are they here? To your point?

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Tom]

Oh, and somebody providing some information. I don't know.

[Vinny]

You know what this reminds me of? After 9 11, Pat, when I was in the United States Air Force, every flight was grounded, period. Nobody is flying. But a couple days after the United States let 13 to 26 of Osama bin Laden's extended family to get on a plane and Fly back to Europe. I think they flew out of Logan International Airport. Wait a minute. The number one terrorist guy that we were told was a terrorist, his family is just chilling on the east coast like it doesn't make sense? And then you fly them, no questioning, no nothing. You make them leave. I don't like that at all. They know that these people are here. They know. What are we doing? Get them the hell out of here. You, your father, your uncle, your whatever has killed Americans. I'm sorry. The hell with all this. Immigration, ice, whatever, get them the hell out of here. You can't. You can't be here. Who knows who they're communicating with? Who are you talking to? Are you passing information? Are you talking to other people? I don't.

[Pat]

So this is the problem. I just found it. So the problem with this is, Rob, what I'm about to send to you, because what I saw as I was looking into this is a lot of people are saying, why would you arrest? Why would you arrest? Why would you arrest? And that's a good question. Why would you arrest? Like, don't we have freedom of speech? Don't we have that? But in real reality, Rob, if you want to pull up this ABC report that came out, they were praising Iran's leadership, knees praising them. And they supported the IRGC and celebrated attacks on Americans.

[Adam]

Bingo.

[Pat]

She referred to the US as the Great Satan. Then why are you here? Yeah, see that? So to me, I don't think this is CIA intel. I think these are two relatives of the sea, blah, blah, blah. The two are amongst number of Americans to have had their legal status in the US revoked for allegedly supporting the terrorist regime. And Iran's secretary Marco Rubio talked about the niece. The State Department says Soleimani's niece and grannies were living in a lavish lifestyle in la. At least one of them promoted propaganda from Iranian regime and celebrated attack attacks on Americans. Until recently, Hamida Soleimani Afshar and her daughter were green heart, green card holders living lavishly in the us. Afshar is the niece of deceased Iranian Major General Soleimani. She is the outspoken supporter Iran regime celebrated attacks on Americans. So the Great Satan and is this go a little bit lower on Rubio. Is there anything else that they have this week? No. Rob, stay on that story, please. If you could go a little bit. Lord, this week I terminated both Afshar and her daughter. Okay, so that's the tweet.

[Adam]

I got it.

[Pat]

Maybe if you want to go back to the tweet that you had Let me see if he says anything else here this week. I terminate. They are now in ICE custody pending removed from the US The Trump administration will not allow our country to become a home for foreign nationals who support anti American terrorist regimes.

[Adam]

Bingo.

[Pat]

I mean, dude, if that's what you're going to be doing, you got a lot of other people to go get. That's just two of them.

[Adam]

Exactly, yeah. I mean, look, everything you said, I, I completely echo the reality. Is this the enemy's inside the gates.

[Vinny]

Oh, they're here.

[Adam]

Straight up. So you talked about the Trojan horse, Pat, you talked about the, and I'll reference this, the video you did a couple months ago. But, but which immigrants contribute the most to America? So look, they're talking about removing and revoking their green card. This is the niece and family members of the slain General Soleimani, the sworn enemy of the United States. So they basically gave a red card to their green card. Sorry, you gotta go. Which is basically apropos for this complete understanding of what this strange bedfellows of this red green alliance actually means. When the communists and the Islamists get together, it gets very ugly and it usually starts on the college campuses, just like it did in 1979, this revolution. And look at the college campuses now. For the past couple years they've been taken over by these pro Palestine marches. The most, most kids could not tell you the history of Palestine, much less the history of the IRGC in Iran, yet they're willing as useless idiots to get out there and basically do encampments and do marches screaming for an intifada, which basically means killing people, screaming river to the sea type mentality.

[Pat]

Let me ask you what is, and

[Adam]

this is the whole purpose.

[Pat]

Here's a question back to you and tomorrow. So Tom, where does that fall under if a person is a green card holder and they're saying the Great Satan and they're defending irgc. If you're the lawyer of those two girls, how do you defend them in America with our constitution that we have? Well, I think because the argument on the other side, some people are making on social, they're like, wait a minute, you can't do anything to them. That's the part of American freedom of speech. So what do you say to that? Play lawyer.

[Tom]

I'm sorry, you're not Americans. You're here on a green card granted by our government under the Department of State, rolling up to the Secretary of State. You have proven to be a. And by the way, we have certain laws that we have here about incentive, about creating riots and discord and civil disobedience. But you're not a citizen. You're not a citizen. And you're being very difficult and you're being an absolute jerk. Why did I give you. Why did the State Department give you a green card if this is how you're going to behave here? And you do not have the rights and privileges of a US citizen under the Constitution because you ain't one. And that's why. Listen to how Rubio said it, Pat. I am revoking. He's using the authority of the issued green card to say you're being a complete jerk. And this is just. You know what? We give you a green card to people to come here and attempt to go through the process of making it live. Goodbye. What people mistake and people want to get on their soapboxes. And here comes the heat I'm going to take for this. You forget the difference between real citizens and guests. And under a green card, you're a guest. And Rubio just said play the video.

[Pat]

Rob, of the two girls that was going viral. This is them, right? Yeah, that's them. And that's Soleimani's. Look at this. That, by the way, that car is a hundred and fifty thousand dollar truck. That's anywhere between 140 to 250 thousand dollars. So if that's an Alpha, maybe they

[Tom]

could just take a lap around a airport access road. But.

[Vinny]

Okay, can I, can I say something?

[Pat]

Do.

[Vinny]

First of all, her uncle killed American citizens. Put that to. Put that to the side. Okay. Killed, gave orders. American people, soldiers dead. Or. I don't know, act fact, fact. Do you not think she still has relationships with the people that her uncle was working with? Are you guys like. Not you guys. I'm saying are people stupid? And I'm going to tell you right now, if my uncle who was killing us people of a country and I'm in. And you kill my uncle 1000%, I'm going to be giving information. And, and Adam, you want to talk about the Trojan horse? I'm in the belly of the. And I'm hating you and I will do anything to hurt you guys because you guys killed my uncle who I love dearly. That's a. That's a no. I don't even know why the hell we let this guy stay in there. From back then she's been here living that life, posting stuff like that, and now all of a sudden it's a. It's a bad idea. Give me a freaking break, bro. I'm sorry.

[Adam]

The reality is we're the number one country that has this problem. I don't know of many other countries that have this exact problem. What's the problem is that we're a country of immigrants. We welcome everybody from all over the world, and we say, come be a part of our great nation. Just make it better. The problem is a lot of these people come here and they want to live a good life. They don't want to go back to the life they had before. They want all the benefits of America, the life of luxury, especially if they're wealthy. And then they want to sort of like, cling on their moral high ground that, yes, of course I stand for the Supreme Leader. It's like, well, why are you here? Oh, because I want to live my life. I know this one girl. Let me tell you how confusing this is. This girl, she's a Muslim. She's a friend of mine. She's a friend of a friend. I'm not going to name her name. And she's a party girl in Miami. This girl parties. I'm telling you, when I say party, she drinks, she smokes, she does this, he does that. She's out there in the scene, but she praises Allah and she does. She wears what looks like a stripper outfit, although she's not a stripper yet. She will basically give the moral high ground and sort of cite the Quran as if it's like the. The moral aptitude test of where. Why she's right and morally superior to all of us. And she basically praises the IRGC and says that she loves the ayatollah. I said, why the hell are you living here? Oh, because I love my life here. Why don't you go back? Oh, I go back sometimes. I go, why don't you stay there? Well, no, my family has businesses here. What's my point? It's very freaking complicated. My response is, get the hell out of here. Stop doing drugs. Why do you. Why are you on your moral high horse where you think you could look down at Americans, yet you have your superior superiority complex with your Quran that you're talking about? Which one is it, by the way? If you live this life anywhere in the Middle east, what would they do with you?

[Pat]

Guys won't tolerate this life.

[Adam]

Exactly. They'll be heavy, but they'll tolerate it.

[Pat]

Yeah. And by the way, the difference, the risk with what you have in America is freedom of speech. That's the risk. Because freedom of speech allows people to gaslight and confuse the hell out of People. And most people fall trapped for that. You do. 80% of people have fallen trapped for, you know, some of the propaganda that's taken place and. But that's not going to stop. But I want to get to next story when you get to next story because we got a lot of other things to go through as well now while this is happening economy wise. Tom, I'm going to come to you with this one here. So US Iran war tax begins to hit American businesses and consumers. And I'm going to go to two of these stories combined together, Tom, and then I'll turn it over to you. So number one, Nick Friedman, co founder of Tampa based college hunks Holland Junk and business has been facing multiple headwinds. High mortgage rates have dampened the real estate market while rising insurance premiums are eating into operation costs. Now there's a U. S. Iran war and surge in diesel fuel prices that is eating into profit margins. Yet he doesn't feel like he can raise prices. We are in a bit of a catch 22. Our fear would be if we start raising prices, it'll hurt the customers. Bigger companies, he says, can probably get away with adding fees, such as Amazon just added the three and a half percent. Or United Airlines or JetBlue both raised their prices. And one airline in UK apparently is no longer, they're shut down. I don't know what the airline was, robin.uk if you want to check that one airline just said we are not even doing anything right now because we just can't afford it. Tom, how, how is this tax impacting businesses and customers today from the war? What, what are you seeing?

[Tom]

Well, they're calling it a war tax. And a tax is something you don't want that takes money from you. Right? That's, that's, that's the colloquial they're going after. And what they're saying is that with today, where's fuel today? Let me look it up real quick. Oil West Texas Intermediate is sitting here. Market just opened and it's sitting at 112 right now. Ouch. Is that right? Yep, 112.65. So oil is a commodity and now you got oil up and so what do you do? He's absolutely correct. A larger company with more longer arms and more profit. Vinny, think about it. It's like if you operated a company and you're bigger than me and you have a little bit more profit than me, you might be able to wait it out a little longer before you ultimately raise prices. And what this guy is saying is like hey, we're coming to the point where we can't do it anymore. We got to raise prices a little bit. Unfortunately larger national companies are gonna have it. And so what we're seeing here is the effect of commodity priced oil because the oil in the US Pat has come up and this is now the impact they've weighted. And what also it means is that everyone on Wall street has been running on sentiment. You know, I pat like president says something positive and the market responds, then, then they hear something else and then the market goes the other way. So right now of the best thing that the market could hear is positive message. We had a positive message on the rescue. We got a 48 hour, you know, till deadline. We got find out what's there. But what the market wants is to have line of sight to certainty of finish. And you can't come out in the middle of a war and just say I'll be done at 8 o' clock on Tuesday because it'll all be done that day because then there's nothing to negotiate.

[Pat]

How do you some good news that just came out. Trump touts unexpectedly high marked jobs report as economy rebounds from week February and you know, a very happy and blessed good Friday to all, especially to the 186,000Americans who gained private sector jobs in a month of March alone. My economic policies have created an enormously powerful engine of economic growth and nothing can slow it down. Trump added that factory construction jobs are soaring as a result of a rapid onshoring and surging investments that tariffs have generated. All the while, the trade deficits have shrunk by 52% in a year. US added 178,000 jobs in March, which included 8,000 government jobs according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. This figure is about three times what most economists forecast at three times. Tom this gain comes after country lost 133,000 jobs in February. Unemployment also dipped from 4.4 to 4.3%. The average person who is not following the economy the way, you know, experts are would say how is this even possible with the war going on with prices going up? But we added this many new jobs. Why is that?

[Tom]

TOM well, because what's going on in the background that the President put in place has been continuing. So I was on record for January, February and Vinny, you'll remember this, I said hey, after Christmas you get a lot of seasonal workers get laid off or that's the end of their contract and so they're off. So and I expected to be flat jobs. But then February came in even worse. Now this is coming up and I gotta be careful cause the Department of Labor tends to come back and, and adjust these. But if this is traction on springtime hiring and stuff on construction, then this is really good news. And it points to manufacturing, which is, which would also be good news. So it says some of these things. It was going to take time because remember last year we said, hey, you got all these jobs to build data centers. We said, well, first need a permit, then you need a foundation, then you need all those things that have to happen, then the jobs can come there for all the army of people it takes to build these data centers. And if that's what's coming up here is springtime hiring. This is really good news. So both could be true at once. Pat, is that fuel cost is hurting businesses because now they got to think about raising prices a little bit. But that should be a temporary thing, that after the war those come back down and the market wants line of sight to an end point. On the other hand, it's very positive that if these are manufacturing jobs, because this is exactly what the President was talking about, that he wanted to incentivize and he was driving last year. So if this comes true and this doesn't get revised down, I think it's good news today. And if it doesn't get revised, I think it's great news.

[Pat]

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[Adam]

Look, I don't know how to tell you guys this, but everything's going to be okay. You know, what's the phrase that we keep saying? Short term pain and long term gain. Look, I have the beauty of understanding how the markets work. Because at one point I had no clue what a 401k was. I had no clue what a Roth IRA was. I, believe me, I had no clue what Bitcoin was. But eventually I learned what all these things are. And at the market, if you look at the market, every single day it goes like this, Pat, right? Every day it's up, it's down, it's green, it's red, it's bulls, it's bears, it's up and down. But if you look at the market over years or a 10 year span, the market's always up. What's my point? We've been through Way worse than this Iran conflict. Guys, we're not the ones getting bombed every single day. We're not the ones getting our leaders decapitated. We're not the ones that are basically going to go bankrupt if they, if they bomb our energy supply. We're sitting pretty here in America. What's the worst that we have in America? We pay a couple extra bucks for gas. That sucks. I get it. Maybe you have to cut down your vacation for a day or two or maybe your travel plans get, get a little interrupted. The travel plans in Iran right now for the Ayatollah and his crew, they're non existent. So like right now in sports right now, Luca is injured, right. He'll be back in a few weeks. So the Lakers. Oh my God, what are we going to do? Oh my God, we might not get the third seat. Dude worry you're making the playoffs, Everything's going to be okay. Do you remember the guy? What's the guy? Demar Hamlin, that basically two years ago, all of a sudden faints and, and basically goes in a coma. He's playing again. So if you look at the news just in terms of what's going on today. Oh my God. Oil price. Okay, calm down. You know what's the, the Fear Greed index, We talk about that. Or the vix. Where's the VIX right now? The point is that's the V volatility index. Things go up and down and up and down. But we have the beauty in America of having stability and calmness and peace and prosperity. And yes, there's some short term pain, but I guarantee you there's going to be some long term.

[Vinny]

Oh, can I say one thing though? Just to push back a little bit. We have the luxury to say that here you're successful, you're in la, but the average American that's in middle America, Adam, that's going paycheck to paycheck to paycheck. This has hurt him, this short term pain to them. They're like, wait a minute. Well, this sounds short term. Let me finish it, I'll get back to you. Because Adam, gas, groceries, these people are actually struggling and they just want to know, Adam, give us. And I get this. We're giving them five days, we're giving them 10 days. We're giving around this thing. They want a clear. And I get it, it's war, it's unpredictable. I understand, I'm not being that guy. But for the regular average Joe American, this is kicking their butt. And it's.

[Adam]

Is it though?

[Vinny]

Yes, it is. Adam.

[Adam]

Adam G. Let me ask you a question.

[Vinny]

Let me finish. Because, Adam, they're in their head. They're like, okay, the short term, how long is the short term? They don't see an end in sight, the majority of them. Because, Adam, if you're just seeing this from like a, take a couple steps back and look at it on a global type thing, these people don't seem like they're going to stop. The. You think the rgc, they're willing to literally, they're basically saying this, go ahead and bomb the bridges, go ahead and bomb our oil. We're not going to stop. And they're putting out videos of their new leader walking into a room. Okay. Basically saying, yo, we'll nuke Israel. That's, I mean that. That's where they're at. So the average American, Adam hears what you're saying and I guarantee you they're like, bro, because we have those viewers, they're out there. I feel for them because in their mind they're like, wait, what do you mean feel shortterm? I don't think that they think it's shortterm.

[Adam]

Well, the, the average American. And believe me, I feel for the average American. I feel for everybody. Because how many, how many questions do I answer on my neck about personal finance and saving money and being smart with your money? But I'll use some case examples. Shout out to Tom. And in terms of recent memory, recent history, that things were way worse in the economy than they are now, do you think that the economy wasn't as worse as it is today versus Covid in 2020 or when inflation hit all time highs or next to all time highs in 2022? Not too long ago, economy was real bad. How did they survive? You buckle down and you survive. You cut costs and you basically trim the fat and you live your life. 2008, I remember when the recession happened that affected America. That wasn't going on halfway around the world in Iran. That was people losing their houses. That was foreclosures that were basically your house is being taken away. People survived. In 2001, the.com bubble busted. Oh my God, what's going to happen? Right after Y2K? Everything was okay. So yes, there's going to be some short term pain, but there's going to be long term gain. And I feel for the average American, but I would feel a lot worse for the average American if there was a nuclear holocaust happening anywhere around the world.

[Tom]

God forbid, America, you can say that.

[Pat]

That's the debate.

[Tom]

People Are suffering.

[Pat]

Yeah, and suffering.

[Adam]

So donate money to them.

[Pat]

No, but, but, but the point is, that's the debate.

[Tom]

We can't hand wave over it like that. They got $1.3 trillion in credit card debt. BNPL delinquencies are up, car loan delinquencies are up. And they have America to put words, talk with numbers, scream has not replaced the savings that they had in 19, 20, 19, eight years ago. Those savings rates were, were never fully replaced. They got a little bit of relief from government checks. But American is, America is in a tough spot, you know, right now. And so you gotta look at it right now for where the. Right now. Why do you think Cory Booker and Chris Van Hollen come out over the weekend and don't even sound like Democrats? They're asking about should anybody pay income taxes if they have $75,000 or under. And they're talking about a tax cut. Cory Booker talking about a tax cut. Why is he doing that? Because the election's coming and he knows Americans are hurting, hurting, hurting. And you know, I just think the

[Pat]

long term issue we have with this,

[Tom]

you can draw comparisons to history, but right now people are hurting.

[Pat]

The long term issue we have on this is the following. Here's a long term issue we have on this. I think affordability is not a political topic. Set it aside.

[Adam]

I agree.

[Pat]

I think affordability is a real issue, you know, and the fastest way to look at it. Last time we're at the house and we're having a conversation about, you know, this fatherhood book that we're talking about. I played three clips for everybody and it was one of the clips I played as the logic clip, which I played here. Then I played the Gene Hackman clip about his father when he left at 13. And in the interview he says it's only been 65 years and he's, you know. And then the Dana White clip, when Dana White says, yeah, my parents died, but I don't have any sorrow, anything, because they were not good parents. I don't know if you've seen this clip. It's a very, very heavy clip. And it's like, well, why are we where we are today? We made some very bad decisions back in the days with Lyndon Johnson when we changed the entitlement programs and we started giving single mothers free money for nothing. And we went from single mother households being from 4% in America in 1964 to now being at 41%. We made some mistakes when in 1970 or so, only 35% of women worked in the workforce right now it's 70%. Not because they want to, because they don't have a choice. You need dual income. If you have dual income, what happens? If you have dual income, you have 1.58 childbirth rate. If you have 1.58 childbirth rate, what is the replacement? 2.1. If this continues, then what happens? Then we become like some of these other countries that, you know, you have a bigger older population and a smaller younger population. And you see India's average age is 28 and we're at 36, 37, 38. I don't know what our age is today. It's getting older because we're not having babies. Affordability is a very real issue. Not for Trump, not for Biden, not. I'm not putting it as a political thing. It's a real thing. And this war isn't helping the average guy out who's out there. This is why my hopes are for this thing to be done quickly. There was something that came out today in the morning, I don't know if you guys saw this, that they're wanting to talk about a 45 day, what do you call it? Ceasefire. Did you see that, Rob? I saw something about this morning. A 45 day ceasefire for what? You know, for what The Iran mediators making the last ditch push for a 45 day ceasefire. No. If you do a 45 day ceasefire, what is Iran really saying? Give us 45 days to get stronger and get some more help from Russia, China and all this other stuff and get it wrapped up. I don't know if you go a little bit lower on this, Rob, to see how these conversations are going. White matter sources said the chances of reaching a partial deal over the next 48 hours are slim. But this last ditch effort could be the only chance to prevent a dramatic escalation in the war that will include massive strikes on Iranian civilian infrastructure and retaliation energy against energy and water facilities in Gulf states. Driving the news. President Trump's 10 day deadline to Iran was expected to expire on Monday. And now you get 48 hours. I don't know how many hours he's got left, Rob. How many hours does he have left?

[Tom]

It's 8 o' clock tomorrow night.

[Pat]

So 8 o' clock tonight or tomorrow night.

[Tom]

It was supposed to be Tuesday at

[Pat]

8:00pm so Tuesday at 8:00pm? Yeah. Now, you know, Jay came in and Umberto, they're like, hey, you know when he says two days, he may do it in a day or not do it at all. So he may still do Something today to surprise. But going back to the affordability, that's a real thing that people are going through. So I want to get to the next story because we got a few

[Adam]

others and I'll be 10 seconds. Affordability is never going away. There's always, every year there's they say 1/2 to 2 thirds of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. That never changes. What's my point? Yes, the government has a role in seconds, buddy.

[Vinny]

Okay.

[Adam]

But it's also on you. It's called personal finance.

[Pat]

Nobody disagrees.

[Adam]

Personal responsibility. This is a, called self worth.

[Pat]

This is a real thing that they're going through today. And, and they didn't do anything about it.

[Adam]

Sure.

[Pat]

So the Iran, American people, just like

[Adam]

in 2008 did the American people do anything about it? But that was part of the economy. I just like the dot com bubble.

[Pat]

Just like the affordability issue is a real long term issue that is has to be addressed. No matter unfortunately for the people to be able to address this, it's a very hard thing to do because you have to make some changes that are going to be disruptive. And I don't know if any politician has the audacity to do it. I don't think. And do you remember when that story came out about us cutting entitlement programs? How could that 41 million people that are taking entitlement programs and we have to cut, you know, welfare and food stamps. And then how long did that story last? One week.

[Vinny]

Why?

[Pat]

Because they're like you're gonna lose elections over this to do what's right for the American people. Financially, I don't think any president will do it because you'll only be a one term president.

[Adam]

It's tough.

[Pat]

I don't think any president will do it because you're a one term president if you do it. So anyways, by the way, here's what Ro Kana is saying. Ro Khanna comes out and says if the Democrats win the midterms, guess what they want to do? They want to impeach the President. Listen to this one here. Go for it. When the House and possibly the Senate

[Tom]

in, in November, there's a better than

[Pat]

even chance Donald Trump gets impeached again. Absolutely.

[Vinny]

He should be impeached now. I mean he's taken us into a disastrous war threatening war crimes in Iran in terms of knocking out people plants and knocking out electricity. And the Democrats will impeach him once we take back the House and should impeach him for all the things he's done. And depending on the Senate, he may face conviction if we get to 60,

[Pat]

especially if his numbers keep going down. The hiding issue continues to be a vulnerable. They're leaking it.

[Vinny]

I mean, are we surprised?

[Pat]

And by, by the way, on Calshi, if you want to go to Kalshi, man, can you imagine without these, these markets for you to be able to see what's going on?

[Vinny]

What's the temperature? Well, what's the point?

[Pat]

He won't be impeached. He will before June 1, 2028. It's 80% almost. If you go before January 1, it's 13% before June 1, Vinnie. Even before June 1, okay, it's 4%. Now, the reason why June 1 is not a likely one. That's a pure gamble, is because they don't have control to be able to do it. The reason why the January 1st is a good position is what when is midterms?

[Tom]

November.

[Vinny]

November.

[Pat]

So 12.9. Those are pretty good odds right there to be looking at that. But they got 70% chances of him being impeached before January 1st of 2028. So your thoughts on what Ro Khanna just said. Are you surprised?

[Vinny]

No, absolutely not. And that's why it drives me back, Pat, which the Pam Bondi firing and all this stuff, the accountability factor of the other side. We have gotten none of it. Absolutely none. And the only two people I said this last week were Jim Comey and Letitia James. And they indicted them. And in one week they were like, oh, this person did this and the judge and they're done. Zero. They're not even hiding it anymore. He's telling you on what was that? CNN or MSNBC? Robbie? MSNBC, MSN now. Oh, I'm sorry, forgot about MSNBC. They're telling you exactly what they're going to do, which they have been doing for the past eight years. Okay? And this is what the Republican Party needs to understand and wake up all the auto pen. All these people, Ilhan Omar, they keep launching and writing letters. If you don't start going after them, they're going to come after you. And this is not even hiding. And the way that it's looking, Kalshee is no joke. I've been doing some research. They don't, they don't miss these. The people that are doing all the volume, they know what they're talking about and it's not going to look good for him. Okay. At all. So I hope that it's worth it because they're all there laughing. Ilhan Omar, they're all laughing. They're like, yeah, yeah, launch another investigation. Gavin Newsom, billions of dollars now we don't know nothing. And they come to Congressman, they laugh in their faces. They laugh in their faces because that's all they do. Comer and all these guys. And I love Kennedy, but he's a comedian in there. What are you guys actually doing? If this was the other way around, everybody and their mother, they would arrest your dogs. Your dogs would be in jail. Like, what are we. What are we doing? And they're going to come after him, by the way. This isn't a threat. Ro Khanna. That's promising. He's promising you. They get 60 in the Senate, it's a wrap. They're going to convict them.

[Pat]

By the way, the Senate, they also have on Kalshi. That's what it just flipped. So if you go look at what Senate was, it was supposed to be like, not even close. But right now, they're officially up on Senate as well. So they take House, they take Senate

[Vinny]

and the presidency, you know, it's over. Yeah, it's over.

[Pat]

You know what happens next. So. Tom, thoughts?

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Tom]

The risk is that it'll be right now with the races that are out there. I'll just do the math for you. The risk is, is 5248, which means you only need eight Republicans to vote for impeachment, because remember, the Senate, the way it will work, the House impeaches. And what that really means is that the President's been indicted. And it's horrible and it's political. We've been now using impeachment just to say we're mad. It's complete bs. But when you take that to the Senate, then the Senate holds the trial, The Senate votes 60, 40, you're done. And so that's why the midterms are so important. And it makes me very nervous, Pat, because 5,000, 248 on election day, they only need eight senators from the Republican side to walk across. And there's like four of them that they have that they know would vote that way. So I see 56 votes right now, based on now, which is why it's so important for, you know, economic things to happen this summer. It's so important to get the. To get a ceasefire and get the war done on our terms with the right outcome. And it's so important for that to get done so Americans can sit back and say, wait, look at the manufacturing jobs. I see the point of what happened here. They don't have to like it. Just like you don't like chemotherapy, but you have to get through it. And I think we're being led.

[Vinny]

Could I ask you a question, Tommy? By what date does it need to turn around before it's over for the midterms? What? Give me a date, Tom.

[Pat]

Pre World Cup. Pre World Cup.

[Vinny]

Pre World Cup.

[Pat]

You know why? You know why it's pre World Cup? Because World Cup's going to be the biggest distraction for the American people to forget about what happened.

[Adam]

When is that? July.

[Pat]

June starts in June. July, the championship, I think, is that 17th or the 19th? It's pre world Cup. Pre World Cup. If you can pull it off, Pre World Cup, America is going to move on if you can. If it's post World cup, it's going to be a shit show. So to me, whatever World cup is pre World cup, you have to be done with Iran.

[Vinny]

Got you.

[Pat]

You have to be done with it. This is my opinion on what I think's got to be pre World Cup. So we'll see. We'll see what happened with that regarding the impeachment.

[Adam]

Look, there's one thing that's the guiding light of the far left Democratic Party, and that is Trump derangement syndrome. There's two major things going on in the world right now. Tell me if you agree or not. That's shaping the world and shaping America. On one hand, you have hardcore Trump derangement syndrome that people can't think straight. And on the other hand, you have Israel derangement syndrome, where they can't think straight. You want to free the people and you want to have social justice, but you're silent. The people of Iran, everywhere you look, it's double standard, double standard. Double standard hypocrisy. Double standard hypocrisy. And then you get so emotionally triggered that when you see Trump, whatever he says or does, you want to do the opposite. And you want to know why I know this? Because I. It happened to me. I remember when I looked at Trump, I was like, I can't. I can't even make sense of what he's saying because I can't even hear the words he's saying. Guys, I'll say this to my core. Have you ever disliked Trump, like, genuinely disliked Trump? Ever?

[Pat]

Not me.

[Adam]

Ok. You ever. You ever dislike Trump?

[Pat]

No.

[Adam]

You ever hated Trump?

[Vinny]

No.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Vinny]

I'm going to be honest, though. When he was on Apprentice, I wasn't like a fan. Like, I would look at him like, oh, what. What is this show?

[Adam]

You weren't a fan, but, oh, Once

[Vinny]

he ran, you never disliked or hated. No, no, I don't hate.

[Adam]

Let me tell you something. There was a point where I was like, oh my God. I was watching Russia, Russia, Russia every single day. There was a point where I literally thought in 2016, 2017, this guy is compromised. He's a Russian asset. He's a Russian puppet. I fell victim to this. I know what it's like to genuinely be like, oh my God. And then I came out of it.

[Vinny]

Thank God.

[Adam]

And look at me now. I love America. I love Trump. I love what's going. I've love always loved America. If I still felt the, the, the power of this tds. Do you understand how insane these people are at this point?

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There's no coming back.

[Vinny]

I'd imagine these are senators that have it that are going to go after bingo.

[Adam]

That's my point.

[Vinny]

That's scary.

[Adam]

It doesn't stop just because you're a regular citizen or you're watching on YouTube or whether you're a government official. Trump is in your brain. TDS is a real thing. IDs is a real thing. People can't act logically and that's what's going on here. And he apparently will be trying to get impeached again.

[Vinny]

Adam they but it won't work. Adam they and really fast. Not even 30 seconds. They've been since 2016. He won Russia. Collusion, impeachments, destroy his name, take all his money, his whole family, ruin his thing. Letitia, James, Comey, all the dude, how many forces around this guy? Then they shoot him in the head, then they try to kill him the freaking Ukrainian guy. And he's still going. And these are the. This is. Hold on. This is past Trump deranger syndrome.

[Adam]

This is.

[Vinny]

He is the enemy. Donald Trump is the enemy to the left. And that's what everything that they are about is. Just get him. Gavin Newsom's a front runner. All he talks about is Donald Trump. And it's not the tds, Adam. It's. He thinks that that's the guy that he's running against. And it's past that.

[Adam]

Let me just say.

[Tom]

Let me just say a lot of things about Trump and be angry at Trump and things I say, erase Trump's name and look at the things he's trying to do. Those are the things the left is trying to destroy. And one of the ways they're trying to destroy it is by painting him as the implementer, as this Great Satan. And so I'm not on that page, you know, with just, you know, accepting that. Well, maybe it's a personality leader. It's a leader with the guts to put these policies and these programs on the table that are necessary. And we're seeing the jobs report that some of them are getting traction. You know, you can be upset about the war and things like that, but we just rescued a guy.

[Vinny]

Right.

[Tom]

And, you know, say what you will, you know, it's a leadership right now that has been driving through the. There's a lot of things that need to be corrected and I'd love to see it all happen.

[Pat]

Well, let me do this.

[Tom]

As Pat said.

[Pat]

Yeah. If they get it before World cup and it's so important to do after world.

[Vinny]

Happy. You said that. Because now you put it in my head.

[Pat]

Screwed. You are so screwed after World Cup. If there's any counsel I would give is finish this thing up before World cup, you can't have it continue. World Cup's going to be the best thing that happened to Trump's administration. If this is over with, it has to be so amazed because there's going to be something big that's going to happen in the World cup that we're all going to get distracted with Ronaldo and Portugal is going to win their first World Cup. He's sitting on Messi's going to win a second one. You know, a event where one team beats another team and it's the enemy and it's so political. It's going to be stuff that's going to happen that we're all going to be distracted. Spain, positive distraction. It's World cup is the best positive distraction.

[Adam]

And Then you're putting on the cake. July 4th. 250.

[Pat]

250.

[Adam]

But just when you're doing the World Cup.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Distraction, Having fun.

[Pat]

Let me do this then. July 4th, while this is going on, guess who decides to spend $19 million of taxpayer money in the state of California to hire a PR firm to make them look better. Guess who?

[Adam]

No, tell us.

[Pat]

A guy named Gavin.

[Adam]

No way.

[Pat]

You wouldn't say.

[Vinny]

I don't believe.

[Pat]

$19 million of taxpayer funds on a New York PR firm. To polish California's image, the Governor's Office of Bureau Business and Economic Development awarded PR powerhouse Edelman a contract up to $19 million to burnish the Golden State's reputation. KCRA reported. Edelman, which also does work on behalf of mega companies like Dove, Starbucks, ebay and Heineken, will be asked with. Combating it will be task two, Combat negative narratives amplified online and partisan media about California while promoting the state's economy and tourism. The company consented. One of the largest PR firms in the nation also has offices in LA and San Francisco. The contract begins on April 6th and will run through then end of the year, which nearly coincides with the end of governor's term in 2027. The Office of Business of Economic Development, known as Go Biz, posted their request for proposals last month stipulating the small businesses be considered for their first contract. Vinny, thoughts?

[Vinny]

So basically, instead of fixing California's reality, they're spending millions to polish California's reputation, which is abysmal. Okay, forget about the speed rail. All I've been seeing is documentary after documentary on the speed rails and the reporting in California billions, the homelessness, 24 billion which made it go up. And I'll talk about New York if we get to that, Pat, but It's like positive. $19 million. So you mean to tell me the Californians who are struggling. You want to talk about struggling? They don't trust the fire departments, especially in these rich Malibu and the Palisades and all these people. The mayor is over. Where was she? Was she in Cuba doing some event when all the fires were happening?

[Tom]

No, no, no. She was all the way over in Africa, you know, where there was a transition of leadership or something was going on and she went anyway. All the crisis was there knowing that it was coming.

[Vinny]

So. And I'm telling you right now, Pat, you said it perfectly at the beginning. There is no amount of money to change the reputation of what's going on in California. But it still baffles my mind and I think you said it last week. I haven't heard one person say, yeah, dude, I got a place in California and I feel bad for the people there because they have to pretend everything is okay. You know how many conversations I've had with my sister and my mom? And we have other reasons that they want to stay. You know, my brother's there and my nieces and my nephews, but what are you doing? And I get it. People have lives. But don't even think. I told my sister, don't even think about buying a property there. Nothing's changing. Nothing is changing. And for the people there, if you're going to vote and this next governor isn't a Republican, I am done. I will, I promise you guys, I will stop talking about them if that happens. It's one. Once Gavin's done and you guys bring in another Democrat, I'm done. If you say, hey, Vinny, what are your thoughts? I'm going to say, pat, move on. I'm done with California.

[Pat]

Well, here's the thing. At 1:10, 1:12am this morning, the president tweeted something endorsing Steve Hilton.

[Vinny]

Who?

[Pat]

I like Steve Hilton.

[Tom]

Yes.

[Pat]

Who is running for governor, state of California. He was very complimentary. I've known him for many years. He says he's running for governor. Truly a fine man. One who has watched as this once great state has gone to hell. Gavin Newscom and the Democrats have done an absolute horrendous job. Anyways, he's going through this. And if you pull up the Cal sheet with Steve Hilton, Rob, I don't know where he's at with the odds, the odd market, what they're saying, it's not looking bad. Okay, it's not looking bad. But this is a small volume. It's not a big volume right now. As of right now, Hilton's at the top. Since last night's cta, he went above Swalwell. If you look at what happened because of the tweet, look how much he bumped up. He went from 60 to 65 to all of a sudden after the tweet, to. What number is it, Rob?

[Tom]

81.

[Pat]

81. At the power of a tweet to the market, how they react. And obviously Tom's on that list as well. Tom Steyer, but he's a different story. Tom, your thoughts on this With California.

[Tom]

With California. What I dove into. I'm not gonna repeat what Vinnie said. I agree with every syllable of what you just said.

[Vinny]

Thank you.

[Tom]

And more. Tasked with combating negative narratives. So that's your Job. We need some help with the negative narratives. It's like a guy sits in his front yard, you know, slaughtering pigs as children are walking to school and then holding a barbecue. And he wants to combat the negative narratives that slaughtering a pig is such an ugly job. Well, then stop it. Stop it. You want to combat negative narratives? How about turn the state? How about do things for the people? How about build the rail? Or say, you know what? You're not going to hear about the rail anymore. It's not going to happen. You know, that's what's going on here. They think it's a narrative game. They think if you just change the narrative, you just spin the narrative because. And if you look at it, Gavin Newsom is a narrative machine. He can't run on leadership without a narrative. He can't run on numbers. He can't run on success without a narrative. And you look at the two things they said, economy and tourism. So you're gonna see we're now the fourth largest, the fifth largest economy in the world. And look at all the tourists are still coming to Disneyland. And look at all the number of people who come to visit, you know, California. Well, it's also a dirty little secret that sometimes, Pat, they count in the tourist things. Like if you and I went back to California and went to a wedding or a funeral, Pat, which, you know, we do from time to time, do you know that they would count us in tourist stats?

[Vinny]

Really?

[Tom]

California? Yeah. Look at the. You can look at the corruption of numbers in the way you count these things. So you don't have any numbers to talk about. You don't have things. So they're gonna talk about tourism, and they're gonna talk about fourth largest economy and combat negative narratives. It's not a negative narrative. Nobody's rebuilding their homes and all the things you talked about. It's not a negative narrative. They're closing hospices that don't exist, that we're stealing money that was meant for truly people that needed it to get back on the horse so they could ride off into a career and into some sort of contributing member of society. This is just astonishing to me. You don't need a PR firm to combat narratives. You need leadership to make change.

[Vinny]

Thank you. And Tom, $19 million, Pat. That's not like just a drop in a bucket. $19 million from taxpayer money. The people that are suffering the most are paying for him to lie. Like, make me look good. Make me. Like, you have blood all over you. You've killed every you're like, yeah, yeah. No, no, I didn't kill. Make me look like blood fell on me from the roof. No, no, you killed this person. Like, it just drives me crazy. And I hope this gets the people

[Pat]

that are voting, they're only doing this for one reason. Because this guy's running for president. They're not doing it for the governor election, doing it for presidential campaign. And Gavin is using the California's taxpayer money to fund this 2028 presidential election. That's what he's doing with this. Because the better California looks, the higher likelihood he WINS Presidency in 2028. Adam, thoughts?

[Adam]

Look, you know, I don't got a lot of love for California, but I'm going to give Gavin News some credit right now. He's an incredible politician. I'm just gonna say it what it is. He says all the right things. He looks the part. He's a great communicator. He looks presidential, you know, but then reality hits and you realize that it's just complete lipstick on a pig. Because as much as he's a great politician, he's one of the worst executors you can possibly find. He's an incredible governor, horrible CEO, no accountability. You know, they have the super majority in California, so nothing, whatever he wants gets done. It's all looks and no results. And I respect that. Why get stuff done if you look, you're getting stuff done. Respect to you, Gavin, with the good hair. It reminds me of this. You remember when I think Xi came to visit San Francisco, which is like a literal shithole, sorry for cursing, poop maps everywhere. And what did Gavin Newsom do the governor of California for that one week? San Francisco looked immaculate. You remember when they cleaned up the whole city?

[Vinny]

Oh, of course. They put the homeless people homeless.

[Adam]

They got rid of the homeless people. Xi Jinping was Xi Jinping shows up Chinese flags everywhere. Bing, bing, bing, ching, ching, ching. And then there you go. Then she leaves. Back to corruption, back to homelessness, back to crime, back to rampant ridiculousness, back to the cost of living. But it was all lipstick on a pig. That's Gavin Newsom. You have no idea Gavin Newsom. How much I respect that. Why act good when you can just pretend like you're acting good? It's incredible. He's one of the most gifted politicians I've ever seen. He's pretending that he's doing a great job. Respect to you, Gavin Newsom.

[Tom]

Yeah, I think he's actually executed very well. I think he's executed put to death opportunities for middle class Californians. I think he's executed, put to death, a sensible budget. So if you want to talk about true execution, I think he's doing a pretty good job.

[Adam]

Yeah, it's one of those things where it's a great state to visit. You get in, you get out. And ain't nobody trying to live in California unless you have to.

[Pat]

Let's go to the next story. By the way, the other governor in the gubernatorial race, that is in Florida, James Fishback that we had on a podcast actually like some of the ideas that he had. He had a moment. Something happened. A guy approached him and apparently he told him, you should be lynched. I didn't even. I didn't even believe this story at first when I saw it. So I want to play this for you. By the way, he's doing a very good job going and shaking hands. So marketing wise, he's good. But this was. This was a terrible moment. Go ahead, Rob.

[Adam]

Why is he not answering the question?

[Pat]

Bro, I'm happy to answer the question.

[Vinny]

Dude, did you smash? Was it missionary back shots? What was it? I don't want you ever. I don't want you ever speaking about women in our state like that ever again. I mean, I don't want you ever

[Adam]

smashing girls, teenage girls in our state ever again.

[Vinny]

So promise me, never smash a minor again. Why haven't I been arrested?

[Pat]

I don't know.

[Vinny]

Why haven't I been arrested?

[Adam]

I don't know.

[Vinny]

You should. Why haven't trumped. Pedophiles? I agree. I will lynch every single Epstein criminal in this country. Why haven't I been arrested?

[Pat]

What. What does lynch mean?

[Vinny]

Hanging a rope. Like old, like.

[Adam]

Was that what he spoke?

[Pat]

Maybe there is different definitions for lynch. Am I the one that is confused here? A, can you pull up the definition? There is no to kill someone, especially by hanging for an alleged offense. With or without a legal trial.

[Vinny]

With or without a legal trial. That's what they used to do in the South.

[Pat]

So he said to the black guy, to a black guy, you should be lynched.

[Vinny]

Unfreaking believable. Yeah. I didn't believe.

[Pat]

Ended of. Is this the end of it?

[Tom]

I have no words for this. This is. You can't use that word. That is just the most horrifying word that goes back to the. To the south and what happened to innocent people. You can't use that word. You can't say, oh, I meant like the oldest.

[Pat]

AI. Or is this. Can you check to see.

[Adam]

This is real.

[Pat]

Check it to see if it's Real. There's no way this is real.

[Vinny]

It's real. Are you positive he definitely said that?

[Tom]

Yeah, he said this isn't AI.

[Vinny]

No, that's real. What the hell is he thinking?

[Adam]

Well, there's probably one thing on his mind.

[Tom]

I think he got triggered because the guy came after him. And what he said about.

[Pat]

He's typically very quick with it. Right. You know, he's typically very good.

[Vinny]

He knows how to speak. But like, what, what do you even. What, Where'd your brain go? It's like the Michael Richards at the Laugh Factory. Like, what the hell are you doing?

[Tom]

Oh, that's painful.

[Vinny]

Well, that's where he's going.

[Tom]

That man is a bad person. Bad person, bad person.

[Vinny]

This is a horrible. Look, that's going to haunt him. That's going to haunt him.

[Adam]

Look, I'll just going to be like normal and sensible. I think his chances of becoming governor are completely in the basement now. They're crumbling. He had a 10% chance a week ago, now it's down to 5%. But bigger than anything, more than likely, we're about to have our first black governor in Florida history, Byron Donalds, who we know. And by the way, I like Lieutenant Governor Jay Collins. I'm just not sure of his chances right now. But the most likely governor is going to be Byron Donald. And James Fishback is trying to take Byron Donald's job. And here you have a black man who's a capable person, endorsed by Trump, says and does great things. Some people might disagree, a lot of people agree. And now you're going to announce your candidacy and try to basically tax women and do this whole thing he talks about, and then he allegedly has these stories with his women. But you're going to look at a black man who, who supports Byron Donald's, I assume, and tell him you're going to be lynched. This is not only the end of his governor chances, this might be the end of his career. Who says that to a black man? Lynched? Are you kidding me?

[Vinny]

And then, then, and then shifts it and goes. I'm going to do it to every single. Epstein. What do you, what are you talking about?

[Adam]

You can have all the greatest talking points, you can have all the debates.

[Pat]

How old is he?

[Adam]

I think he's in his early 30s.

[Pat]

I'm sorry, you can't, you can't.

[Adam]

But this to me is going to haunt his career for the rest of his life.

[Pat]

Yeah. By the way, that, that could, that could haunt him in his business career. You can't talk like that.

[Adam]

That, that's, that's, he's, he's not saying, hey, I'm gonna kick you out of here. I'm gonna beat you up. I'm gonna get you. You told a black man to his face, I'm going to lynch you. Who have you ever used that word in your life?

[Pat]

Listen, I, I, he, that to me is when he interviewed with Piers Morgan on that only Fans girl.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

That they were going back and forth. 50 had some of the ideas which were creative ideas but you can't talk like them. And this is to, to me, this is the part where some of the guys on social get so out of control with the way they talk, they don't realize the consequences with that long term, you know, they don't realize it. But anyways. Okay, sounds good. Next story. Mamdani's gun violence comments after killing of a seven month old baby sparks outrage. I don't know Vinny, if you saw this one or not.

[Vinny]

I saw the actual, you know, I saw, I saw the surveillance inside the, the CT cam of inside where the mother realizes that her kid was hit with a stray bullet from a gang shooting outside. It's in the care. Oh dude. It was, it was hard to mom.

[Pat]

Danny is facing criticism from local politicians and onlookers on social media of the comments he made that critics say say places blame on gun rather than criminals in an incident involving the shooting death of a 77 month old child in Brooklyn. And this is what Mandani had to say.

[Vinny]

This is not the first family in our city to know this pain. Too many children have never grown up into becoming adults. Too many parents have had to bury those that they love the most. We cannot accept this as normal in our city.

[Pat]

We cannot grow numb to this pain.

[Vinny]

And today is a devastating reminder of

[Pat]

just how much more work there is

[Vinny]

to be done to combat gun violence across the city. I send my deepest concern condolences to all those carrying the weight of this enormous loss. As we grieve this loss. I am grateful for the NYPD continued work to find all those responsible for

[Pat]

this murder and to bring them to justice. So New York City Republican Councilman Vicki Palladino said the following. Literally anything but blaming the criminals who our system releases onto our streets repeatedly over and over and over again with no consequences. She said this on X Tom. Thoughts?

[Tom]

Excuse me. So you can look at this and say, well that's very nice thing that the mayor said. It appears to hit all the right tones until it stops short of condemning the criminal. And I think that's exactly what they're pointing out. And it's like you can be made. Because you look at that. That wasn't coming from the heart. He's reading prepared comments. And it's the difference between reading a prepared comment and coming to the microphone. And if you look in the history, people like Andrew Cuomo were just phenomenal. Ronald Reagan were phenomenal. Clinton of coming to the microphone and being able to speak from the heart about things. He's sitting here reading prepared comments that leave out why is this happening and what are you doing about that? He praises the police. That's a good thing. He gives condolences to the people at their loss. That's a good thing. But the city councilwoman, she's right. You know, he stopped short of, you know, condemning criminals because that is not what the Democrats or especially a Marxist are in the business of doing.

[Vinny]

Tom. Like this is the same guy that went to the hospital to visit the crazy person that ran after a cop in an apartment with a knife. And the cop shoots the crazy person. Mamdani doesn't visit the cop, he visits the crazy guy with the knife in the prison, like in the hospital.

[Tom]

So, so this is on brand.

[Vinny]

This is 100% on brand. This is, by the way, he's not blaming the gangster. He's not blaming the. By the way, we don't know the immigration status of these people. This is the guy that defund, that loves defunding the police and doesn't give a damn about New Yorkers. This guy, out of all of them, Pat, the smile that he does. You want to talk about the Trojan horse? It's him. It's this Mamdani and it's the beginning. And shame on him. Shame on you. Don't. It's not the gun. They would have, they got. They would have stabbed each other. This is New York, bro. If they want you dead, they're going to kill you. Okay? And if there's any bystanders, you're going to get it too. So I think it's shameful that this guy doesn't even have the decency to say, hey, listen, God rest the soul of this poor 7 year old kid who was shot. And I saw the video. It's freaking disgusting and it's horrible. The mother lost it. Obviously you knew it was going to happen. But to blame. Oh, the gun doesn't mention the gangsters, doesn't mention where they're from or what the hell they were doing. What, they're doing drugs? Was it just a turf Thing. Shame on him, bro. He cares more about the freaking criminals than he does with the law enforcement or the deceased, plain and simple.

[Tom]

If it was a drunk white guy, you would have heard about his race.

[Vinny]

You would have heard thousand percent. Tom.

[Pat]

Adam.

[Adam]

Well, New Yorkers love him. Straight up. We're obviously very critical of mom Donnie on this show, but this is exactly what they voted for and this is what they want. They're going to get it. So do you know mom Donnie's favorability ratings in New York? I want to say he's above water, at least a dozen points. I want to say his favorability rating is somewhere around 48. And unfavorable rating is in the low 30s, which puts him at a probably around plus 15. Rob, you could fact check that. Here's the reality. New York. There it is right there. He's loved by Democrats, especially progressives. He has a net favorability of somewhere in the double digits. This isn't the modern day New York. Whether we like it or not, New York is no longer the home of capitalism. New York is no longer. If you can make it there, you'll make it anyway. It's no. Get free stuff. Get free stuff. Rent control, rent. Freeze. Tax the rich. We have to stop pretending that this is the New York we've always known. The modern day New York is crumbling and they're electing progressive communist Islamist mayors. And you know what, Vinny? They love it. They want more of it. He's the highest rated Democrat. He's the face of the Democratic Party. This is the modern Democratic Party. Especially in New York. So do they care if some random baby got killed? Of course not. That's not their concern. They want to tax the rich. They want to eat the rich. The new New York. You want to know where the new New York is? It's called Miami, Brickell, Miami World Center. Because this is where reality lives these days. You can keep the progressive fantasy land up in New York and in California.

[Pat]

So let me get to the next story, this next story. None of you guys marked off. I want to go to. And I think it's something we should talk about. The young couple choosing financial freedom over having children. Telegraph story on page 20 if you want to go to it. So Allie and Charlie Higgins. Rob, you got a clip on this one, I believe. Right. Are simply not willing to give up the financial independence they have spend years building to have children. Ali, 33, a recruiter for Uber and Charlie, 37, works for technology company. The couple moved to US to moved from the United States to Amsterdam for work four years ago and I build up a combined household income of 310,000. 210,000. What is it? Is that. What is that, Tom? Is that pound?

[Adam]

These are pounds.

[Pat]

Okay, pounds. In the last couple of years we've created a lifestyle that we've enjoyed living. We saw. Is this it, Rob?

[Vinny]

It is.

[Pat]

Okay, just play the clip. Go. I can't play four minute clip.

[Tom]

She gets to it right off the.

[Pat]

Okay, go for it.

[Tom]

Cannot have a single alcoholic drink. They cannot go out, they cannot have any fun. No. I think we have to get our ducks in a row here though. And one of the things that I notice if you open any newspaper bar, the Telegraph bar, GB News, they portray the family and motherhood as a complete negative. They say it ruins your looks, it ruins your finances. Nothing's going to be the same again. But actually we have to look at the economic side.

[Pat]

This is not them, Rob. In the story workers we need. Okay, it's okay, I can skip this. I wanted. I thought they were speaking. So the couple are a part of a grown group of so called dinks which stands for double income, no kids. While the term was first coined in the 80s, it has surged in popularity on social media in recent years while couples posting online about the disposable income laws and how challenging it is to lift it in financially. So there are 4.1 million sinks in America, single income, no kids and dinks in the uk according to insurance provider legal. In general, fertility rates in uk England and Wales are languishing at their lowest level since record began in 1938. We know what the number is right now. They're at 1.41. Okay. And 2.1 is replacement. We're at 1.58. They're choosing financial freedom over having kids. Tom, you. There's hundreds of stories like this that we see. How do you process this when you hear stories like this?

[Tom]

So I go back and I look at the truth. I think Pat, this could be something you do a deep dive, one of your how to's on and go into the data because it'll show you that historically speaking you in Western civilization, it's the affluence of society that leads to people having less kids. Not long term. I'm talking about long term for society, not simply wars or affordability. It's not. They can find people that'll say it's this. But on a macro scale, Pat, when you back up and you look at a society as that society becomes affluent, less kids come out of that society. I saw last week a poll that said it was like 55% of people surveyed, why don't you have kids? 55. And they gave multiple answers, but 55% of them said one of their answers was I just don't want to have them. I think I have more freedom. And so what's very interesting is I see things like this and I think it's terrible for people who want to have kids who feel like they can't afford to do so. That's real. But long term, it's an affluence of society that leads people to be selfish. Simple as that. Because it's happening in Korea, it's happening in Japan and every country's got its different issues. So how is it all happening at the same time that the affluence and the development of those countries is leading to less kids? It's not unaffordable to have kids. All of those countries.

[Vinny]

Tom, what do you say? Cuz I've heard they're saying that some of the excuses were that the girl doesn't want to lose her figure. And if you think about it, Tom, now they're making this money. They're like, hey, we don't want to lose any of this money. So how much of it is greed? Greed, I don't want to say necessarily greed. They want to save money and they don't want to spend it on a kid. And then guess what?

[Tom]

Society putting self ahead of the joy that you have with the creation of family. We were designed to have families.

[Vinny]

Gotcha.

[Pat]

By the way, in 2024, here's an interesting stat that kind of goes into this. In 2024, about 31% of Americans were part of the upper middle class. Upper middle class in America. Okay. Up from 10% in 1979 according to a report released this year by the right leaning American Enterprise Institute. Okay, this is from Wall Street Journal. More Americans are breaking into the upper middle class. This kind of goes together, what we're talking about. There's no single standard definition of middle class or upper middle class. The AEI report classified a family of three earning 133. 133,000 Vinnie. To $400,000 in a year, 2024 as upper middle class. So if you make between 133 to 400, they're considering that upper middle class. The rise in influence is powering an American economy built on consumer spending and transforming the types of products that's being used. So if you think we went from upper middle class 10 in 79 to now, 31. That means what happened to middle class? Not upper middle class, middle class. So. So again, affordability is a real, real issue. Whichever candidate can come up with some creative. I have so many creative ideas. Whichever candidate can come up with Creative Ideas for 2028 campaign, you're going to have a very favorable outcome. If you know how to deliver the message to the audience, you can have a very favorable outcome because Americans are thinking about this today. They're choosing career over kids. Vinny, this is if anybody cares about America long term. Not just 26, 27, 28. If you care about America for 2050, this may be the top issue to be thinking about of Americans not wanting to have kids. Adam, thoughts?

[Adam]

Look, this is the conversation of our times. I ask all my married friends the exact same question. I said, give me the good, the bad, the ugly of marriage. And I've told this joke before. The one guy goes, my favorite thing, I love my wife. She's always there. My least favorite, my wife, she's always there. But here's the reality. I'm at the point in my life where obviously, you know, I'm in a relationship now. I'm looking at the market, and I'm seeing my friends who are somewhat happily married a lot, who are seemingly fake, happily married, miserable, sort of. And then there's people who are loving their life. I get that. Then I have friends who are in their 40s, some in their 50s, and these guys are some of the biggest studs that I know in life, and they've been with more women than we even know about. But I always ask them, like, where does this end? Where does this end for you, bro? You're the biggest player. You're the biggest man. You know, all the women in Miami, you. You're the man. It's like, where you don't want to ever have kids. I don't know, man. I know one guy who got a. What's it called when you snip your stuff as a man?

[Vinny]

Vasectomy.

[Adam]

Vasectomy. I go, you got a vasectomy? You don't even have kids. Because, yeah, I made that decision. And that's really ultimately what it comes down to. Like, what Pat always says. Who do you want to be? I've made the decision that I definitely want to have kids. And that's something that I'm working through and working on right now is because, listen, I like, you know, these younger people you're talking about, these dinks and sinks and all these things. I know what it's like to have money and have a bunch of women, but not have the real fruit of life, which is kids. And obviously you have Pat out there. That's encouraging everybody to have more kids. And this is something that I process. So I ask all my friends these exact same questions. Do you want to have kids? What age do you want to have? Married, get married, have kids? And you know who the most important people that need to answer this question? Women. Because in my belief, this might offend somebody. Feminism or modern feminism has been sort of the worst curse that's been put on women because it allows them to believe that their job is more important than a family and that they have more time. That matters. So whether you're a dink, dual income, no kids, single income, no kids. A Henry, there's a thing called a ninja. A Henry, which is a high earner, not rich yet, or a ninja. No income and no assets. The last thing that you want to do, whether you're a man or a woman, is become a sow. Single and lonely. The last thing you want in life. So figure out who you want to be and solve for that.

[Pat]

There you go. By the way, the best thing you can do in your life. Find the right person. Have as many kids as you can have. It's the best thing you'll ever do in your life. Nothing comes close to it. Nothing. Yesterday, Mario and I were at the house with Barbie. We're having conversations, and Barbie's his wife, and he's holding his son in his arm. Gabriel knocked out. And we're talking about all these things with parenting and Mario saying, you know, Easter was making me think about something. He says what? He says, for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. He says, there's no way in the world I could ever do that. Oh, wow. He says, there's no way in the world. I can't even imagine life without this guy. Right. There's something very, very unique of what happens to a man. Man matures in a very different way when he has a kid, in a very different way when he has a kid. And it's different when it's a boy and it's different when it's a girl. Very. Because you look at the lens in a different way.

[Adam]

And.

[Pat]

And, you know, whatever God gives you is because what God believes, that's you're supposed to lead. So. And anytime somebody's pregnant, the prayer is, God, give me what you think is what I need. And I'm going to do my best to Raise whatever kid you end up giving me, and I'm grateful for it.

[Adam]

So what are you saying?

[Pat]

The prayer is, whatever you give me, just give me a healthy child. I'd never ask for sex. Never ask for, you know, just give me a healthy child. Whatever you think I'm the one to raise, give it to me. I'm going to take on that responsibility seriously and I'm going to do the best I can. Do whatever you think is right for me, I'm going to do it. So. And then from there, you know, if he gives you all boys, there's a reason. If he gives you all girls, it is what. If he gives you boys and girls, it is what it is. But that is, that is a blessing to anybody that comes out. I want to go to one story here and then we can wrap up. So, Rob, do you have that New York Times story? There's a guy out of nowhere that New York Times has a story and maybe I'll release. I'll go a little bit more, but this is a very interesting story. A guy out of nowhere. New York Times has a story of a fellow who, with him and his brother and $20,000, he built a business worth $1.8 billion in somewhere around two years that new York Times went and interviewed him to see if this is real or not. So Matthew Gallagher took just two months, 20,000 and more than a dozen AI tools to get a startup off the ground from his house in LA, 41 years old, use AI to write the code for the software that powers his company, produces the website, generates the images and videos for ads, handle customer Service. He created AI system to analyze his business's performance. His startup, Medvi, a telehealth provider of GLP1 weight loss drugs, got 300 customers its first month. Second month, a thousand customers more. In 2025, Medv's first full year in business, the company generated $401 million.

[Vinny]

Wow.

[Pat]

In sales.

[Vinny]

Wow.

[Pat]

This year they're on track to do 1.8 billion in sales. Vinnie, in sales with how many employees? Two employees. Him and his brother. Him and his brother with two employees is doing something like this. And by the way, you're going to hear so many more stories like this of guys who understand what AI is doing, understands the power of it, and they're going to build behemoth companies that someone's going to come up and pick up. Tom, your thoughts on this story here with, you know, this fellow who built this, Matthew Gallagher, that built this company that could do 1.8 billion this year.

[Tom]

Well, I have two sets of thoughts. The first is I'm going to set aside anybody who wants to send me the things because Medve has also been criticized. It said it was a compounder of drugs. So I'm going to set aside all that. The fact is he built a business that was selling and then in GLP1, you have to say the right things with yourself, just like we had in life insurance. It was a regulated industry and you have to do it right. So that first point I'm not going to get into, I'm just going to leave that there. But what this shows is that with AI, he created what he created ad creators and the agents did AB testing. He used AI to create a customer service response or anybody responded. You got an email back. Thank you, Vinnie, for your interest. Here's the information you were looking for. So it shows that you can use these agents to do chores of the basic stuff to build a business. Now here's what AI doesn't do. It's not going to select an industry for you. It's not going to make you incredibly smart about that industry, diving in to understand exactly what you're going to do. It's not going to tell you, oh, here's the gap. Vinnie, go do this right here, here's the gap. You know, you may get some sort of analysis or things on that, but ultimately the human's got to make this decision. But what it does show, Pat, is that AI can be used to do these chores so that you could open this online. Here's what he did. He was an online reseller basically of GOP1 weight loss telehealth. Hey, I want to use GOP1. Fill this out, do this and we'll get your drugs and they get shipped from the company. And so I think it's a success story on AI Even if it's a cautionary tale of always be sure you know the regulations of the sector you get into.

[Pat]

If I was a schoolteacher, Tom, if you were a schoolteacher, how would you use the story with your kids? Okay, how would you use a story with your students and how would you use the story with your kids? Because I have plans with this. I wonder what you think about that.

[Tom]

I would say, hey, let's take a look at a case study here where they were using AI to quickly get something off the ground. Now, second of all, and let's go see the things that they could do. And I would show all the good in that. And, and I would say also, this also shows that wherever you start a business, you better be fully researched to know all the regulations and things that go into that business, because you got to do business, right? You don't want to have AI help you build a business like this and all of a sudden get shut down. So, number one, I would show this is how I can be positive using the tools. Number two, you got to know it. But number three, first and foremost, it takes a human to lead it. You have to decide what you're going to get into business to do.

[Adam]

And.

[Tom]

And you have to decide what is the character of you, how you're going to lead, and what you're going to put your company, whether you're one person or you have 10 humans working for you. And those would be the three points I hit.

[Pat]

I hope. I hope parents are watching this and sharing these stories with their kids. You know, I had kids over at the office the other day, and I said, hey, what. What do you guys. What are you guys looking at? Not my kids. Some kids from a school. I said, what are you guys looking at? What are you guys paying attention to? What are you guys listening to? What are you thinking about with career? What do you want to do? What tools are you guys using? How do you guys process AI? How do you guys process politics? What do you think about this? If parents are not too involved right now, your kids have an advantage with certain tools that wasn't around for many of us. Okay, Many of us. Sometimes all you need to do is say, hey, son, I want you to watch a story. Look at what this guy did. Why can't you do it? Hey, honey, come look at the story. What this guy did, I would be sharing these types of stories with. And by the way, maybe your kid does anything with them, maybe they don't. They don't. But these are the types of stories that you can just sprinkle and let the kid decide for himself or herself if they're gonna do something. If they're not, they're not gonna go, okay, I don't care, dad. Boom, I'm gone. Oh, my God. Really? How?

[Vinny]

Hey.

[Pat]

And then they go talk to their friends. Hey, did you hear about this one guy named what he did, Matthew Gallagher? And did you hear about, what if we did something like this? What if we did something like that? I mean, it's really, really interesting stuff to see what's happened in 2026.

[Adam]

Adam, really, I would be happy if you can kind of break down how this all kind of works. Meaning they made projected to have a billion dollars in sales, AKA revenue.

[Pat]

So he used AI software to produce ads for him that perform. He used AI software that works as customer service to get back to all customer complaints, issues, deliveries. He use AI that works with delivering the products to the customers. And copywriting is all AI. Everything he's doing, it's all AI that him and his brother are driving.

[Tom]

Perfect.

[Adam]

So totally understand that component. But, you know, one of the things I've learned hardcore is, you know, your net, your gross sales is not your net revenue. What is that? What type of revenue is a company?

[Pat]

Like, dude, if you're doing $401 million in revenue, just do this. At 10% EBITDA, that's 40 million, right? Yeah. At 20, that's 80 million. I'm going to say it's probably in the 20% range.

[Adam]

Gotcha. So if he does $1 billion, his net revenue is $200 million.

[Pat]

If $200 million, yeah. Someone's probably going to cut a multi, multibillion dollar check to this guy here if this continues.

[Adam]

That's what I want to understand. Okay, so how many years do you have to do it for? And then.

[Pat]

Oh, no, no. A buyer, A buyer may come in and they may buy this company at the valuation of 2028. Like today, a buyer may come in and buy this at a 2028 valuation, not at a 2026 value.

[Adam]

What does that mean? Exactly? Exactly.

[Pat]

Because, like, okay, so one time we're on. It's me, Greg, Share, Tom, Some of our guys were on a boat. We're having a conversation together, and we were talking about a company that does $50 million a year in revenue versus one that does $100 million in revenue.

[Adam]

Got it.

[Pat]

Which one's valued more? They both have 20% EBITDA. One profits 10 million a year. One profits 20 million a year. But if the $50 million company the last five years has grown at 50% and the $100 million company has been flat for five years, even though it has a bigger EBITDA, the $50 million company is worth more than the $100 million company. So right now someone is buying this company if he chooses to sell. If he chooses to sell this company. This is going to be a multi, multi billion dollar company.

[Adam]

Are you worried that it doesn't have a long enough track record? Only two years?

[Pat]

Not about what I worried.

[Vinny]

It's.

[Adam]

I'm just saying the market.

[Pat]

No, if the buyer comes in, if a big glp, one company comes in and sees the machine you've built and the machine is bringing Profits. You're not even hesitating. You're like, hey, all I'm going to do is transfer that or either buy the GLP one. I don't know if it's a. You know, if it's a white labeling. I don't know what the model is on, how this works out. I don't know if it's like using somebody else's. But the. He has built a machine that's worth billions.

[Tom]

It's a sales machine, too. So he doesn't make the drugs. He just enabled them to go.

[Pat]

And this skill set, you know, we can use a skill set for any product. Any product. So forget about the product. You could do this with any product that he's got. Remember, it's a very, very interesting era we're living in today.

[Adam]

And there's two companies you give an example of when you're on the boat. One That's.

[Pat]

You said 50 million, 50% growth, 10 million in profit, 100 million, 20 million, and even it up, but hasn't grown for five years.

[Adam]

So did. Did any of those companies sell or. Those are just.

[Pat]

Oh, yeah, we were the 50 million going towards 100 million, and we sold more than the company that was 100 million doing more than us.

[Adam]

Interesting. So it was. It was.

[Pat]

It was. Because we were. What was our CAGR? Five years in a row, Tom, you were over 30. Over 35 years in a row. What is that kegger like our. Our growth Keger.

[Adam]

I know what a kegger is.

[Pat]

One of those, Tom.

[Tom]

Keger is cumulative annual growth rate. So it's like they look at it and they say cagr.

[Pat]

No, but that's not what I'm asking. I'm not asking cagr, what was the amount of quarters that we beat the prior quarter in revenue? Do you remember the quarters going into the. Was it 13 quarters, 14 quarters?

[Tom]

Yeah, I believe it was. It was almost. I think it was. It was almost four years. And then we went in and a little bit of COVID in there, and

[Pat]

Marcus, like, what the hell are you guys doing? So.

[Adam]

So I. I actually understand that because it. It's like a free agent. Look, if I can just kind of sum this up, a guy who scores 18 points, 20 points, 24 points, it's like, all right, this guy's improving, but the guy who goes 10, 15, 20, now he's at 30.

[Pat]

You're like, dude, this guy's signing him at 17.

[Adam]

And you recognize that early because of the trajectory.

[Pat]

Yeah. Can you pull up Giannis's stats? Just type In Giannis NBA stats. Okay? And watch his first seven seasons. Yeah, he went from like, go down, go down, go down. Boom. Go down, go down. Go to the NBA one. No, no, to the basketball reference. Go to the basketball reference.

[Adam]

Come on, Rob. This is our world here, buddy.

[Pat]

Zoom in. Go a little bit lower. Rob, if you could go a little bit lower. Lower, lower, lower, lower. Go lower. Right there. Look at this. Go back out. Okay? So zoom out a little bit. Zoom out a little bit more. Okay, look at the Points.

[Adam]

Points.

[Pat]

Season 1, 6.8. 6.8.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Season 2, 12.7, 16.9, 22.9. 26.9. 27.7, 29.9. Seven seasons in a row, he beat his prior best. And if you look at his rebounds. Look at the rebounds. 4.4, 6.7, 7.7, 8.8. 10, 12 and a half, 13.6. You don't see stats like this.

[Adam]

Got it.

[Pat]

You don't see. So to me, that's what this guy is doing.

[Adam]

The key is signing him in his second year, third year, right before, nobody did.

[Pat]

So now, I mean, the guy is miserable being where he's at. And, you know, I'm not saying. I'm not speaking on his behalf, but this guy deserves a championship. He's won one already. He has one I'd like to see. I think he's the type of guy that could win a few. Anyways. All right, there you have it. Parents, share that story with your kids. I think, you know, let's inspire these kids to be thinking bigger. With that being said, Rob, do we have anything tomorrow?

[Tom]

We do.

[Pat]

We do have something. Is it a surprise?

[Adam]

I have to talk to you about it after.

[Tom]

But we will have something at 9am tomorrow.

[Pat]

Really?

[Tom]

Yes.

[Pat]

And it's a surprise.

[Tom]

Yes.

[Pat]

Okay. Well, listen, Rob, the surprise guys.

[Vinny]

We'll let you know what.

[Adam]

Vinny, you know what? Our surprise. We're going to a ker later.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Pat]

With Tom. He's drinking the beer, gang. We will do this again Wednesday and Friday and today on Hotcakes and Hot Takes, which, by the way, last week, Stephen A. Was phenomenal. Vinnie, who do you have today?

[Vinny]

James O' Keefe is on today. We're going live at 11:30. And he's going through it, Pat. But he's such a. Like, you just wait till you hear his background, his story, his upbringing, why he does. Why what he does and how important he is to the. To the marketplace. And we had some hotcakes while we were doing.

[Pat]

There you go. All good. Take care everybody. God bless. Bye bye. Bye bye.

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