WHCD Shooting + Cole Allen's Manifesto | PBD #785

Summary

PBD Podcast #785 Summary

Episode: WHCD Shooting + Cole Allen's Manifesto
Host: Patrick Bet-David (PBD) + Home Team
Date: April 27, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode covers the recent White House Correspondents’ Dinner (WHCD) shooting attempt, with a deep dive into the background and manifesto of the shooter, Cole Thomas Allen. The hosts analyze security lapses, media rhetoric, political polarization, and broader themes around propaganda, charitable giving, and surveillance. Notable moments include Trump’s 60 Minutes response to the shooting, the viral aftermath, and a candid discussion on influence, philanthropy, and the future of personal privacy.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. WHCD Shooting Attempt: Timeline & Reactions

[11:10–16:41]

• Incident Recap: A gunman, Cole Thomas Allen, attempted to assassinate former President Trump at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner, echoing the historic Reagan shooting at the same hotel.
• Details:
  • Cole Allen, a Caltech grad and NASA AI intern, radicalized and planned the attack with surprising ingenuity.
  • He checked in as a hotel guest a day prior and used Amtrak to transport weapons undetected ("The reason he takes the train ... he doesn't have to declare anything. He just hides it in his bag." – D, [16:41]).
  • He sent a 1000+ word manifesto to his family, explicitly targeting Trump and high officials, while laying out “rules of engagement” to minimize non-target casualties.

Notable Quote

“I apologize to all the people that I travel next to ... I don't expect forgiveness, but ... If I could have seen any other way to get this close, I would have taken it.” — [Cole Allen’s manifesto read by A, [18:33]]

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2. Security Lapses & Secret Service Critique

[24:18–34:32]

• Failures Highlighted: The hosts criticize Secret Service’s “arrogance” and lack of preparedness:
  • Allen checked in a day earlier, bypassing security.
  • VP J.D. Vance was evacuated before Trump.
  • Per Allen’s manifesto: “No damn security. Not in the transport, not in the hotel, not the event ... this level of incompetence is insane.” ([21:03])

Notable Quote

"J.D. Vance got the treatment the Commander-in-Chief should have gotten. Totally unacceptable." — B, [24:58]

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3. Media, Political Rhetoric, & Radicalization

[26:54–32:44]

• Mainstream Media’s Role: Panel blames obsessive anti-Trump media narratives and divisive rhetoric for radicalizing individuals like Allen.
  • Obama’s statement post-shooting is called “gaslighting” for deliberately planting doubt about motives.
  • Discussion of Jimmy Kimmel’s Melania joke and the normalization of violent political humor.

Notable Quotes

“Barack Obama is the most divisive ex-president in the history of this country ... planting doubt so his side has cover.” — B, [26:56]
“How much more evidence do we need that people...are willing to die to kill Trump?” — C, [28:32]

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4. Propaganda & Influence: Youth, Social Media & Universities

[55:36–60:43]

• Greatest Propaganda Targets: Hosts agree "youth" are the #1 demographic to sway, followed by social media influencers.

  • Qatar and China are outspending others in US higher education to shape young minds.

• Lenin Quoted:

  • "Give me control of a nation's music and I care not who makes the laws ... Youth. The culture." — A, [60:03]

• Warning to Audience:

  • “Be very, very intentionally careful of the propaganda machine that is taking place from our enemies. They want to see a massive division in America.” — A, [63:09]

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5. Philanthropy, Charities & Legacy Conversation

[67:34–83:04]

• Cautionary Tale: The danger of charitable endowments being commandeered for ideological goals unrelated to the founder’s intent (citing Ford Foundation’s history of mission drift and radical grants).
• Advice for the Wealthy:
  • Don’t leave massive sums to charities after death—leave it for the family, ensure control, and give only to trusted, managed causes.

Notable Quotes

“The dumbest idea in the world: ‘When I die, I’m going to die with zero and leave it all for charity’.” — A, [72:01]
“These charities don’t care about you. They don’t wake up in the morning thinking about your kids and your family.” — A, [80:25]

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6. Political News Bites

• California’s ‘Billionaire’ Tax: Actually applies to all residents via fine print, underscoring the need to read legislative details. ([84:20])
• International Affairs:
  • Trump cancels Kushner/Witkoff Pakistan trip, while Iran, Russia, and Oman meet about oil.
  • U.S. Navy blockade could cripple Iran’s oil output within days due to lack of storage.

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7. Surveillance Tech in Cars (Starting 2027)

[103:49–109:48]

• Mandatory Monitoring: By 2027, all new US cars may actively watch drivers for “impairment” (e.g., drowsiness, alcohol).
  • Panel raises fears of privacy loss, misuse by the government, and insurance companies.
  • “Same idea, different excuse. Back then it was terrorists, now it's unsafe drivers, but the move is the same: more surveillance.” — B, [105:28]

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8. Viral & Lighter Moments

• Russell Brand & Piers Morgan Bible Study:

  • Hilarious, awkward search for a Bible verse ([114:19–117:04]).
  • Also discuss Brand’s controversial past and public attempt at redemption.

• Trevor Bauer No-Hitter:

  • Framing his baseball comeback as a narrative of resilience after false accusations ([123:01–127:35]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the power of propaganda:
  “Propaganda works. It’s a very beautiful thing. Nasty, but it works.” — A, [51:16]
• On Secret Service:
  “The arrogance part really stuck out for me... if he kept doing multiple trips and kept bringing up explosives, he could have blown up that entire freaking building.” — B, [23:29]
• On left/right polarization:
  “There's a singular enemy, and his name is Donald Trump. Imagine that you're an American, and your number one enemy is Donald Trump.” — C, [48:19]
• On charity and legacy:
  “Give to charity today if you trust the person that's running it. Do not leave your inheritance for a charity that could be run by anyone with different values.” — A, [72:01]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• WHCD Shooting Recap & Shooter Profile: [11:10–16:41]
• Manifesto Read & Analysis: [18:33–21:03]
• Secret Service Critique: [24:18–34:32]
• Media Gaslighting & Radicalization: [26:54–32:44]
• Propaganda/Influencers/Youth: [55:36–63:09]
• Danger of Charitable Giving Without Controls: [67:34–83:04]
• Surveillance Cars: [103:49–109:48]
• Russell Brand, Piers Morgan Bible Bit: [114:19–117:04]
• Trevor Bauer No-Hitter: [123:01–127:35]

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Closing Thoughts

This episode gives a provocative look at the blurred lines between political rhetoric, personal radicalization, and systemic failures—from the chaos at WHCD to the quiet shifts in cultural and financial influence. The hosts urge skepticism toward media narratives, vigilance against propaganda, and thoughtful legacy/charitable planning.

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For next steps:

• Stay informed, read fine print on legislation, and be aware of how influence is targeted (especially at the youth).
• Take philanthropic advice seriously—keep control and ensure alignment with your values.
• Question trends toward normalization of violence in media and entertainment.
• Think critically about government and technological encroachment on personal freedoms.

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This episode is a must-listen for those interested in the intersection of politics, security, influence, and societal values in 2026 America.

Transcript

[A]

Did you ever think you would make it. For me? Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever saw. It's right here. You are a one of one. My son's right. I don't think I've ever said this before. Okay, so we got a lot of stuff going on, a lot of stories to cover. Obviously, the White House correspondents, they're no shooting. We have so many things to cover with that. Different angles. Zero to Trump being escorted out, zero to other people being escorted out after they heard the gunshot. And this guy, this character with the stories of him, his sister calling in, telling the manifesto he wrote. Then the president going and doing 60 minutes yesterday and the question being asked and calling our nasty. And then Jimmy Kimmel just a couple days ago is doing a spoof White House correspondent correspondence dinner type of a thing. And he takes a shot at Melania, saying what Melania looks like, which was absolutely, you know, out of line for him to make a comment like that. And for this to happen at the same hotel that Reagan got shot at. This is the third one that took place with the President. So we have to talk about that. And then number two, the president pulled out the negotiation of having Witkoff and what do you call it? Kushner going to Islamabad, Pakistan. However, Abbas Al Rachi went to Pakistan, then went to Oman, then went to Russia. I think he's meeting with Putin today. Then there's a story that came out about cars, like surveilling you, like effective 2027. You know, apparently they voted for this, and a lot of Republicans voted for this. And a part of it was Matt. I don't know if you know what? Matt is mad. You've heard of mad Mothers Against Drunk Drivers? Yeah, Mothers Against Drunk Drivers. It's kind of like this is the reason why madd. This is the reason why they're supporting Republicans did. Because we have to protect kids. And what's happened if someone's drinking? There's a lot. And by the way, shout out to Anna Paulino Luna was like, look, I'm not for this. I think this is a bad idea. But we're going to talk about that with cars. So watch. Imagine if they start doing this in 27. Imagine people only buy 20, 26 cars. And they ask, is this a 27 or 26 model? It's a 27 model. I'm not interested. I only want to buy 26. It'll be interesting because they can't go back. It's only 27 and forward. So California well tax Chamat Palapita, who is a very successful businessman, he found something that was being shared in that little wealth tax that they want to do to billionaires. And in there they realized this isn't about billionaires, this is about you. They want your money, not the billionaires and millionaires. They're really putting it in there that, hey, if you say yes to this, eventually we can tax you too. And that's kind of cool, cuz we really want your money. It's not that much money for billionaires. The money we want is from everybody in the state of California. We have to address that. By the way, at the White House correspondence dinner, apparently Jim Acosta got into a bar fight. Tom's insiders, his Tom's community man, they're tight. They told him, they said what happened at the bar. He called the guy out. The guy goes outside the bar, posts a picture saying, I'm waiting for you. All of this happened while Jim is saying everybody should walk out. If, if the president, you know, reporters have to walk the f out. If Trump launches revenge attack at correspondence dinner. And then we know what happened there with the revenge attack, the 60 Minute interview. There's some other things that was discussed there as well. We'll probably get into that. Trevor Bauer got a no hitter for the Long Island Ducks. I got a prediction what I think is going to happen with Trevor Bauer here soon. And maybe I'll make that prediction on the podcast and get myself in trouble, get trouble again, but don't do it. I'm going to. I'm going to do it. Don't do it. I'm going to do it. And then this whole thing with the blockade, some people are noticing that Trump's not really moving that quickly with the blockade. He's just kind of like not, not really moving too urgently with Iran's like, hey, wait a minute, how come you're not moving that urgently? Well, guess what? The longer that oil sits, the infrastructure may explode in three days, he claims, due to the blockade. So because you can't just put it on and off like a switch that Humberto was talking about early this morning. So we'll talk about that. And then aside from that, we got a couple other things that we have to get through as well. Jamie Raskin said some weird things and story wise, you have Pope Leo. Come on, guys. Pope Leo takes another shot at the President. I mean, the moment you try to be friendly to this massive 1.4 billion people around the world and popcorn is Nice one week. The next week, he probably listened to some hip hop. This weekend he definitely did. He probably listened from Tupac, and he's like, you know what? Screwed. I'm doubling down on this. And he goes after him. And then. Winery. Okay. Winery belonging to Ilhan Omar's husband. Shut down.

[B]

No.

[A]

Amid financial spotlight.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

Salute. Too much, Vinnie.

[B]

I.

[A]

It's a little too much. And Minnesota lawmakers demand records after Ilhan Omar skips fraud hearings. I don't need to do it. Why would I go to a hearing? You know, she did this podcast with this people that have breakfast, and she talks about it on that breakfast podcast.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. Breakfast Club.

[C]

The Breakfast Club?

[A]

Yes.

[C]

With your good friend Charlemagne.

[A]

Yes. Why Gen Z and millennials might ask for your credit score on a date, would you ask credit score on a date? Have you ever been asked for your credit score on a date?

[B]

No.

[A]

Has a girl ever said, what's your credit score?

[B]

No.

[A]

Has a girl ever asked you for your credit score?

[C]

They've asked for me to pay the bill, but credit score.

[A]

You're not gonna.

[B]

I've had to let me see your bank account once.

[A]

Let me see your bank account.

[C]

She didn't say, let me see your bank.

[B]

Said, show me your.

[A]

Is that what they call it nowadays?

[B]

Is that bank account?

[C]

I want you that bank account.

[B]

Hey, show me your ira.

[D]

Oh, come on. You're just trying to get the bag.

[A]

So new car. Okay, we talked about that. Then Russell Brand. Russell Brand was doing a Bible study with Pierce Morgan, and it became the. By the way, just so everybody knows, it became the biggest, most public Bible study of the year. I don't know if there's been a bigger Bible study than this Pope. You know, the Pope of, you know, is taking shots at the president. But, you know, at least Pierce sat there and did Bible study with it. Took a couple minutes to get to the right scripture, but still turning the pages.

[B]

Right now he's still looking for Rob. No M. Did you learn something?

[D]

I learned know you pronounce Isaiah way.

[A]

And then last but not least, Isaiah. A story by Wall Street Journal. We're all talking to each other less than we did a year ago. Then I got a question I want to ask you guys. I got a question I want to ask you guys. And then we're going to see where these questions are going to go to. It's. It's a. It's not like a tricky question, but it's a question I want to ask you, and I want to give some advice on charities Something you probably don't typically hear, you know, where people give advice on charity and, you know, give money to charities and all this other stuff. Mine's going to be a slightly. A different angle, and some people are not going to be happy about it, but you may want to listen up to it because it has to do with legacy and. And. And raising the right kids and, you know, the right way and how to make sure they don't become spoiled and how to set them up so they win in the future as well. And it has to do specifically with charity, because we're going through it today. There was an article done by this socialist magazine called Forbes. And this Forbes, that's a socialist magazine. I don't know if you guys saw that or not. Yep, they took shots at Elon Musk having only given a half a billion dollars to charities only. What a shame. And so we have to call them out, because the socialist magazine, Forbes, does a great job at highlighting socialist causes. And they just happened to, you know, the owner happens to be 51% out of China, Hong Kong. And so, of course, they would never write stories to divide America. They would never do such a thing because, you know, the reputation there. You would never do such a thing like that to divide. But we will. We will get into that story as well. And aside from that, I don't even know what. What I'm driving to today, but I'll get into it here in a minute. Just. Oh, there you go. That's what we're doing. By the way, just so you know, I'm telling you guys this, I can't tell you. Yesterday, I'm at a football game, and a lady pulls up to me. She says, when are you guys gonna get size 14? I'm like, ma', am, we just got size seven. We just got size eight and a half. 14 is coming here soon. We got seven and a half. Says my husband, I need size 14. My dad comes home from church. We're done eating. We're at the house with Sean and Grace, and my dad says, when are you getting size 14? I said, what do you mean, size 14? Today at church, somebody saw my valuetainment logo. They came to me, they said, are you getting size 14 or not? So I'm like, is there, like, an epidemic going on with size 14?

[C]

Who needs shoe? Shaq size.

[A]

Shaq needs size 22, 23. But let me tell you, it's exciting stuff that's going on with the shoe. Everywhere I'm going now, people are asking about how come my Husband bought it. We were at first skeptical. Why would somebody like PBD come out with shoes? You're not a shoe company. Why would you come out with a shoe and then you go to Italy to do it and then you. It's designed in Florida, and it's got the, you know, the super foam technology on the bottom of it. Super comfortable. Yes. Every day. I've been wearing this thing since September 9th. I've worn the shoe every single day except for 8 days now. I've not worn since September 9th. Just to see what it feels like, what it looks like, does it tear? Doesn't have any damage. It's the most comfortable thing I wear. And if you haven't yet gotten yourself an FLB shoe, watch this commercial. Hopefully this will persuade you to place an order for yourself, your husband, or your son. Go ahead, Rob. When we set out to create a shoe that blends comfort, function, and luxury, we had the choice to make it fast. We had the choice to make it cheap. We chose neither. Instead, we chose Tuscaniro. We chose true Italian craftsmanship. Each pair touched by 50 skilled hands. We chose patience, spending two years perfecting every detail. And we chose the finest quality at every step. Introducing the future Looks bright collection. Not rushed, not disposable. Not ordinary, rather intentional. Luxurious.

[C]

Timeless.

[A]

Go to vtmerch.com place your order. Handmade Italy, Tuscany. Super foam technology. Your husband will thank you for it, your son will, and you will. If you buy it for yourself, get it in white, black, brown, or navy blue. And new colors will be launched here in August. But for now, we have a lot of sizes. Get them before they sell out because the sizes go out quickly. Having said that, let's get right into it. White House correspondents dinner. Everybody's expecting to see what the President's going to be saying. All of a sudden, I'm coming out of my daddy daughter dance. Okay, I'm with my daughter, Rob, if you want to show the picture, me and Senna go on Twitter. Show the picture me. And so I did the Zoolander picture of me. We're at this place. I come out, I'm seeing a PBD podcast. I'm like, when did this happen? You're like, pat, this just took place. I'm like, what are you talking about? So, you know, some people didn't like the hat. They said, why would you represent a hat that you're part of a community? I'm like, listen, man, I just put on a hat they gave me.

[C]

I think that works.

[A]

But then all of A sudden there's a shooting. There is this, there's that. I'm like, again, again, there's no way. So then we come home and we see. And here's what we have and what we've learned about the shooter, who was there, who wrote a manifesto that we got to get into. So I'm going to go through this here and then the guys, I'm going to come to you. So, Cole, Thomas Allen, what do we know about this guy? Rob, you have the video of him running? If you have the video of him running, there's a surveillance camera showing this. Go ahead, Rob. This is the guy. He runs a 40, apparently in a 4, 2, 4, 1. He should go to the combine. Watch this here.

[D]

The Jets.

[A]

How fast? Even the President says this guy was running. So look at him, how fast he's running. Okay? Some said they shot him, some said he's dead. He wasn't. He did hurt his ankle. They eventually did get him. And then when the President was on stage with his wife, the first lady, this is what was taking place. They're having a conversation. The Mentalist is doing a. Not this one. Go to the other one. Rob, you can see the President right there. And then watch the First Lady's reaction. I think this is the. Oh, this is a long one you have, Rob. Does it get right into it?

[D]

Right off the.

[A]

Go for it, go for it. So this the President, first lady, he's pulling a trick and you can tell. President's very interested.

[B]

And the trick is Caroline Levit's baby's name, which I found out with the name that they.

[A]

They.

[B]

Look, cuz I thought it. I thought it had my name. Cuz you can see V on it. Watch.

[A]

Watch this. Guess her name. Turn it.

[B]

Look at Trump. He's really interested.

[C]

You're going to start to see loud noise, anything clanking.

[B]

They're shooting already. The guys, they're already shooting.

[D]

You just heard it.

[B]

And look, they're shocked at the name. Look right now.

[A]

Whoa.

[B]

What's happening?

[A]

J.D. vance is out. The President's still there.

[C]

Oh, wow.

[A]

So it takes about 13 seconds to get in front of the President. 20 seconds to get him out. Took about 7, 8 or 10 seconds to get JD out. There's a lot of speculation there. Why did they get JD out of there before they got the President out of there? And so this is all going on now. Here's the. Here's the thing about what we know about the shooter, Thomas Allen Cole. If you want to pull up his picture, Rob Allen, having sent a 1,052 word anti Trump manifesto to his family roughly 10 minutes before the assault. It is the third reporter time on the president's life after 224 assassination attempts in Pennsylvania and Florida. There were 2,600 attendees at this event. Everybody was there and as they're going through this whole thing. Cole Allen attended checked into the Washington Hilton as a registered hotel guest the day before on Friday April 24th and he wrote which I'll read to you the manifesto here in a minute Rob, if you want to pull it up. That's him. Allen was confronted by security near main metal detector screening area of Washington Hilton at 8:36pm he ran past the security checkpoint and fired at least one shot. CNN ankle Wolf Blitzer who was just outside the ballroom at the time reported being only a few feet from the gunman when the shots were fired. A very serious weapon. Allen himself sustained a knee injury while he was going through it. Initial Secret Service agents fired approximately three to four shots and Allen shot fired one. He had a shotgun, a handgun and multiple knives. His sister told investigators that Allen purchased two handguns and a shotgun from Cap Tactical Firearms and store them in the family home without parents knowing about it. And so his 31 years old hometown Torrance he went to Caltech University. If you know Caltech, that's not an easy school to get into. It's a very, very reputable school Caltech. He did intern at NASA in 2014. Alan completed an internship at NASA working for artificial intelligent models for planetary mapping. He was a part time teacher tutor at C2 Education in Torrance since 2020. He was the teacher of the month in December of 2024. Okay, and so this is not like it's a regular guy. Independent video game developer is who he was. He gave $25 to Act Blue, the Democratic Party pack in October of 2024 directed towards Kamala Harris's presidential campaign. A yard sign at his family home endorsed a local judicial candidate backed by the LA County Democratic Party. He was registered to vote without party affiliation. He participated at the no Kings protest in California and social media accounts attributed to Allen containing anti Trump and anti Christian rhetoric. He frequently trained at a shooting range and had undergone firearms training. His brother residing in New London, Connecticut contacted the New London Police Department about Allen's manifesto. However, that call came approximately two hours after the shooting had already occurred. The brother was the family member who alerted law enforcement. As of Monday, Allen has not cooperated with the local with the in custody, he's not talking to anybody Whatsoever. And as you're going through this, in the manifesto, which I'll read here in a minute after getting the team's reaction, there's a bunch of other things. He's facing a minimum of 10 years in prison, up to 20 years. Caroline Levitt stated Allen sought to assassinate the President and kill as many top Trump officials as possible. He came to this place on a Amtrak from LA to Chicago and then Chicago to D.C. not a flight. So he used Amtrak while he's coming down here. So anyways, I'll pause right there before we read the manifesto and show a couple other clips because I'm going to get into that next. Tom, your thoughts on how this happened and the story of it.

[D]

Well, I have two things to say. One is clever. The other is radicalized clever. Why did he take a train? Because you would have to check bags and declare a weapon and have it in a locked weapons box. Vinny, you and I have traveled, you know, with like a hunting gear shotgun. You have to have it in a locked box. You check it in, you declare it, they inspect it and then you get on the plane. Cause obviously it's not in your carry on. Well, he would have had to do that. So the reason he takes the train, in my opinion and the opinion of people that have been analyzing this, he doesn't have to declare anything. He just hides it. He just puts it in his bag there and he takes it in, takes his seat and goes on the 72 hour train ride. And so, number one, he seems very clever. Number two, when you read the manifesto, he seems very clever. But I'm gonna put all that aside, Pat. The word is radicalized. This is a guy who by all accounts is smart. You're not dumb to go into Caltech and you're studying AI and you're working with NASA and you're working with high end things. And now you're a teacher. And the teachers in la, whether you're in Manhattan beach or Hermosa beach or lausd, which is LA Unified School District, largest school district in the United States, says these are radicalized. Kim taught at LAUSD back in the day. They are absolutely radicalized. They are anti conservative, anti Christian, all of that. And so it appears what takes him from being at Caltech, Pat, to riding a train with a shotgun and to writing that manifesto? The answer is radicalize. Someplace the bit flipped and the guy was completely radicalized and decided he could do this. But you can see there's a rational side of thought. First, I want to apologize to my Family apologize to my friends.

[A]

You're talking about the manifesto?

[D]

The manifesto. It's well written.

[A]

Well, let me read that. Read that first and then, Vinnie, I'm going to come to you next.

[D]

That's what I think.

[A]

Hello everybody. So I may have given a lot of a. A surprise today. Let me start off by apologizing to everyone whom I trust. Rob, can you zoom in a little bit? I apologize to my parents for saying that I had an interview without specifying it was for most wanted. I apologize, my colleagues and students for saying I had a personal emergency. By the time anyone reads this, I probably most certainly do need to go to er, but can hardly call that not a self inflicted status. I apologize to all the people that I travel next, to all the workers who handed my luggage, all the other non targeted people at the hotel who I put in danger and simply by being near. I apologize to everyone who abused or murdered before this. To all those who suffered before I was able to attempt to do this. To all who may still suffer from this regardless of my success or failure. I don't expect forgiveness, but I. If I could have seen any other way to get this close, I would have taken it. Again, my sincere apologies onto why I did this. I'm a US citizen. What my representative reflects on me. I'm no longer and I'm no longer willing to permit a pedophile rapist and a traitor to coat my hands with his crimes. Well, to be completely honest, I'm. I was no longer willing to a long time ago. But this is the first real opportunity we had to do something about it. Go to page two. Rob, if you could. While I'm discussing this, I'll also go over my expected rules of engagement. Probably in a terrible format, but I'm not military to. I am not military, so too bad. Administration officials, including, not including Mr. Patel. Why he says that it's interesting. Yes, they are targets prioritized from the highest ranking to the lowest. Secret Service. They are targets only if necessary and to be incapacitated non lethally if possible. AKA I hope they're wearing body armor because center masks with shotguns mess people up who aren't hotel security. Not targets if at all possible. AKA unless they shoot at me. Capitol Police, same as hotel police. National Guard, same as hotel police. Hotel employees, not targets at all. Guests, not targets at all. In order to minimize casualties, I will also be using buckshot rather than slugs. Less penetration through walls. I would still go through most everyone here to get the targets if it were absolutely necessary. On the basis that most people chose to attend a speech by pedophile, rapist, and traitor and are thus complicit. But I really hope it doesn't come to that. There's more, Rob, I think, because there's something he says about Iran. Do you have the one where he says, quite honestly, it wasn't that hard to get into? He says, hey, there's.

[B]

It's the PS part. Once he's done, he goes into a ps.

[A]

You have the ps. Read the ps.

[B]

He goes, ps. Okay.

[A]

Not pos. Ps. Yeah, go ahead.

[B]

Okay. Now that all that sappy stuff is done, what the hell is Secret Service doing? Sorry. Gonna rant here for a bit. And drop the formal tone like I expected. Security cameras at every bend. Bugged hotel rooms, armed agents every 10ft. Metal detectors out the wazoo. What I got in parentheses, who knows? Maybe they're pranking me is nothing. No damn security. Not in the transport, not in the hotel, not the event. Like, the whole thing that I immediately noticed walking into the hotel is a sense of arrogance. I walk in with multiple weapons. Not a single person there considers the possibility that I could be a threat. The security at the event is all outside. Focus on protesters and current arrivals, because apparently no one thought about what happens if someone checks in the day before. Like, this level of incompetence is insane, and I very sincerely hope it's corrected by the time this country gets actually competent leadership again. Like, if I was an Iranian agent instead of an American citizen, I could have brought a damn Madus. And Madus for you guys that don't know is where you have to sit down.

[A]

And.

[B]

And it's one of those. That thing is. It's huge. He's saying, I could have brought a ma deuce in here and no one would ever notice. S H I T Actually insane is what he says.

[A]

So what do you think about the. What do you think about the whole thing?

[B]

Well, first, Pat reading like, it's freaking sad. Like, he was captured by the political propaganda full stop. Like, look at how he sounds. He sounds like a nice carrot. Like, I know he's kind of off, but think about it. He's apologizing for the people. Adam. That even handled his luggage, getting him on the train to get to the place. I'm sorry to my parents. I'm sorry. He's even going through rules of engagement of, you know, I'm not going to the Capitol Police. Are not this. It. It's really, really sad, Pat. And the manifesto tells you that he was. You Know, you know, radicalized. But you know what part stuck out?

[A]

Me.

[B]

He checks into the hotel on Friday. He case to place, you know, he's been at the no Kings rally. The messaging inside the rest of the manifesto was anti Christian and the fact that this is the scary part. And I'm going to get to the security right now. I'm going to have Rob play the video of the JD Vance, the Vice president and the President. Pat, he was checked into the hotel since Friday. No security, no nothing. The arrogance part really stuck out for me. Can you imagine? Just remember the shooting in Las Vegas. How much arsenal Rob did that guy bring upstairs? It was insane. At the mgm. Was it the MGM shooting, Tom?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Ok, Rob, mgm. Think about this, ladies and gentlemen. If he kept doing multiple trips and kept bringing up explosives, explosives, he could have blown up that entire freaking building if he wanted to. And taken out the Vice President, the President, all of our leadership, all in one spot. And I think it's actually ridiculous that they let him get to that. And I want to point out this failure by Secret Service. This is my opinion. I know Trump always praises them. There's a shooting and a lot of people were trying to come at me online like, what do you mean? They weren't even close. If the President is sitting there and we could hear pop, pop, pop, pop, gunshots. He was close enough. Okay. If he had an explosive, he's close enough. Rob, can you please show this video? I want everybody to know as a security protocol and I talked to Dan about this too. There is somebody is an active shooter.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

Your number one goal, the chief, the number one president should be the guy that you get out first and foremost. Play this video. They Secret Service grabs, J.D. vance is gone. And watch this. He's off the stage. The President is sitting there. 3, 1,000, 4 1,000, 5 1,000. Still staying on stage, still a target. And now they just slowly get the President off stage. He was up there for like 30

[D]

seconds and fully, fully hard armed, meaning with the armor and the helmets and everything. Five to seven seconds after Vance is off, you have the hard armored guy which are supposed to put themselves on the vector 100% so they protect Tom.

[B]

There's Tom, there's been a shooting. You hear shooting. I'm diving on the President and getting him out. J.D. vance got the treatment that the commander in chief should have gotten. Totally unacceptable. And you're hearing from the shooter himself that he was amazed. He thought he was getting pranked because there was no security because the President wasn't there yet. And again, I'm going to say the word arrogance. Arrogance.

[C]

You're just.

[B]

What are we. What are we doing? As if you haven't learned the first time and the second time. And I. And I'm not. I'm not going down any crazy rabbit hole or anything. There was one interesting. We'll get into Obama's statement at the end, but there was an interesting tweet I sent to Rob. This. The one thing that kind of made me bug out. I'm pretty sure you guys all saw it. There was a tweet by a guy named Henry Martinez in 2023, I believe, Pat, the only message this guy has ever put on his. Look how many views it got was Cole Allen. And that's his only tweet. And it's a frog in a tuxedo with a. With a champagne glass. People have been going crazy dissecting it. Well, I don't. I don't know. Adam, in 2023, this guy, the one tweet he's ever go a little bit low.

[A]

Rob, is that read, the FBI would like to speak with you. What in the world?

[B]

Like, how do you. Is that. Is that random?

[A]

Allen. Cole Allen had a picture of himself on Instagram. Okay, so that's a different one. That's AI. One that people talking about. Keep going. You want a time machine instead of. Keep going a little bit lower. Okay. Pretty wild. Like that.

[B]

And then can I mention Barack Obama, which pissed me off the most. Rob, if you could please do that. And before I get into this, let's not. The fact that he said pedophile, rapist, traitor. Where is he getting that rhetoric from? Where is he getting that from? Who have we heard for the past four years on mainstream media? From Tim to every single body brainwashing the American public of these things. Trader Hitler. Boom.

[D]

Call it what it is. Gaslighting.

[B]

It's horrible. Mainstream media gaslighting American people 1000%. And guess who Captain America gaslighter is? Barack Hussein Obama, who said, although we don't yet have the detail, this is well after the shooting and the manifesto came out. Although we don't yet have the details about the motives behind last night's shooting at the White House. Correspondent. I want everybody to understand this. Barack Obama is the most divisive president ex president in the history of this country. Him saying we don't know the motive isn't about facts. It's about slowing people down from reacting to what already looks completely obvious. All right? He's trying to plant doubt. Where People already feel clear, so they hesitate instead of judging the actual situation. So it gives his side cover. All right? People don't want to face what happened. Now they have an excuse to avoid it, and he's the one doing it. Tom, I love that you said gaslighting. It's him. It shifts the fight instead of focusing on what happened. Now, people are gonna waste time arguing over. Is it clear, Pat? Did he talk about that? Did he? You just read. We just read what he said. Pedophile, rapist, traitor. We know his motive, okay? And then Obama likes to flip the script. Anyone who calls it out is gonna get labeled extreme or partisan. So bottom line, it's not confusion. What he's doing. Obama is control. It's about buying time, protecting the narrative, and turning reality into an argument instead of something that people could just recognize. I actually feel bad for this guy, Pat. This guy was radicalized by a machine, political propaganda machine that made him literally go there to try to kill the president, United States, and anybody that got in his way.

[A]

Adam?

[C]

Yeah. I don't know about you guys, but I'm getting this feeling that they really want to kill Trump. So how much more evidence do we need that people are dedicating their entire lives and willing to die in order to kill Trump? And we can have a whole conversation of how they got to this point, AKA the left. I would say that the left has a violence problem at this point that needs to be addressed. Charlie Kirk, Steve Scalise, how many times did Trump assassination. Butler, Florida, that we know about. You know, this room, which I've been into. We can discuss that in a second. This might be one of the most important rooms in the world, certainly in America. Why was this not ppd, the room that they tried to assassinate Ronald Reagan right outside, same 1981.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

This was also the room, if you recall, in 2011, where Obama gave the speech about the Donald that basically motivated Trump to run for president.

[A]

And the other comedian, what was the other comedian that said, this is the president is sitting there, and he just keeps taking shots at the president. Not Stephen Colbert, the late Seth Meyers. Seth Meyers.

[C]

Yeah, you're right.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

So needless to say, now there was a performer, Oz Perlman, the mentalist. This isn't a good look for you, buddy. How'd you not see this one coming? You're a mentalist. So this room changed everything. This is the room that basically motivated Trump to run, and this is the room that now a psychopath shooter who wrote a manifesto tries to break in and try to kill the President. At what point is Secret Service and are the feds going to say, guys, what are we doing? How does this continue continually keep happening? We need to clean this thing up, because I'll revisit what I said at the beginning, guys, they're trying to kill Trump. You know how you always hear, protect this man at all costs. Could be some Internet comedian. Protect this man at all costs. Trump is the most important man in the world, the most consequential man in the world, making the world's most consequential decision. Decisions. This is the first White House correspondence dinner that he shows up to as a sitting president, and this is what happens. And by the way, whether it's balls or whether it's just lack of care, Trump wants to do the event again in the next 30 days. Let's make sure that our Secret Service and our security is up to par.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Can I also say one more story about the White House correspondent's security? I went to this event in 2017. I told the story about where I met Eric Swalwell at the bar. Here's some pictures while I was there. So the funniest thing about this event and me getting in. You want to know what? I didn't have a ticket. I wasn't invited. One of these ladies here said, yeah, come. You can come. Just join me here. I said, how do I get in? They go, we'll figure it out. I got in without a ticket. I got to the red carpet by. This is 2017, three years before we start the podcast. Look, I've been fortunate enough to go to the White House now multiple times to Mar a Lago. We know that Trump Doral. We just did a massive event there, which they announced they're doing the G20 at. It's easier to get in the White House Correspondent's Dinner than it is to get to a sporting event or. Or a concert. How's that possible? Reagan was shot there. This is continually a scene of the crime. So now if you want to take out the President, you know, now, this is probably the easiest room to get into, but. You ready for this? Better, please.

[B]

Well, hold on. And then Adam Crap hits the fan. The vice President is grabbed and thrown off the stage, and the President, still. They're all looking around with Captain Magic Boy. They're like, hey, what's. What's happening? Get the President off the stage.

[C]

Trump addressed this in his 60 Minutes interview. Did you hear that?

[B]

Yep. Yeah, but were you able to see that? But as a security protocol, there's no excuse.

[A]

Yeah, so. So let's. Let's cover a couple of different things while this is going on. Tom, I think you've been dying to say something.

[D]

No, I would say we're being a little hard on the Secret Service. There's four layers of that I was reading about this weekend. The first is vice president, president, Each have their own detail. Clearly, the detail that's on jd, that knows him and knows him, they reacted quickly, grabbed him by the shoulders, got him out of the chair and up. The President's detail apparently was slower then. You have two Secret Service details. We went through it when we had Trump on the podcast. An incredible group of people that showed up. Remember this, Pat? And they do what's called the advance, and they sweep and they do all this advance work and everything. The question is, how did the advance. How does a guy get a gun into a hotel room at the very hotel that's on the advanced side? But then there's perimeter day of. And apparently that was a metal detector and that he ran through. He ran through that perimeter check.

[A]

Guys, can I, can I just say something? Listen, there's two things. One, yeah, Secret Service, you know, you can find a million ways to do your best to get better, but you're dealing with a client that's very public. You're dealing with a client that is not very, you know, like, if you look at JD, JD's natural reaction was flight. Just, just play it. If you just look at it like to him, he was alert. The President is having a conversation.

[C]

Sitting on the right here.

[A]

Yeah, to the right. If you can just put the arrow on it. He's about to get up. You see how you back up, like you want to get up. And then they got him. Let's go. And boom, he's out, right? So the President, that guy's standing in front of him.

[C]

Stood in front of.

[A]

He's still having the conversation. And they finally come up, and they're in the front, and then he leaves. He says, get down. He gets down. And then they get him out, right? And that lady in that dress that you saw, she's the president of the White House Correspondence Association.

[C]

Asian lady.

[A]

The Asian lady is the jank, I believe is her name, in the light colored dress. In the light colored color dress. So she's the President. So if you go look up, who is responsible for the White House Correspondents Dinner? They ask Scott Besson. So, Scott, you know, how do you manage the finances for an event like this? He says, I don't this is not something the White House does. It's not our job. Somebody else does it. So it's its own thing that the media runs. She is the pre. You know who was the previous president of the White House Correspondents Association. Can you type in the previous? His name was Eugene Daniels. Do you remember Eugene Daniels? You should know who Eugene Daniels is. This is Eugene Daniels. You've seen him on MSN many, many times.

[D]

Are you serious?

[A]

That was the previous president of the White House Correspondence right there. He served as the president of White House Correspondence Association. The new one. Click on that, Rob, if you just click on White House Correspondence association on his profile, it'll go to it. The new one is right there. We Jai Jiang. This is her. And this is who was sitting to the left of the president. To his left, to our left. If you're looking at the stage, that's her. She is so. So the security responsibility falls a little bit on the President who was putting this event together. Two, it falls on Secret Service protecting the President on the outside. Three, it falls on the hotel. The hotel who is. But the hotel's like, what do you want me to do? You guys put events together here? We do hotels here all the time. Like, I remember one time, you know, we went and looked at the same exact hotel. We were going to do SLs at this hotel, right? At this hotel. It was dated. It's actually a very dated hotel. It's not a nice hotel. No, it's not nice at all. It's dated. And so we said, no, we're not going to go to this hotel. And at the end of the tour, they're like, by the way, this is where the president, Ronald Reagan got shot. I'm like, oh, that's awesome. Not a selling point, you know, and right here. So anyways, we looked at that as we're going through it. So to me, I think a few things that I like. Let me tell you what I liked. And this is the stuff I am attracted to. One, I love that the president was poised. I love that Stelter said when he was in there, the guy that came and checked on him was the president of fcc. Okay, is this it, Rob? This is what I love. Play this.

[B]

Brendan Carr, who checked on me inside

[C]

the ballroom was Brennan Carr, who is

[D]

the Trump FCC chairman.

[C]

And some of you might know I've been rather critical.

[A]

This is what's beautiful. But we were talking a couple of times right afterwards.

[C]

Word.

[A]

And that's the point, Scott, right?

[C]

Is that this was for everybody in

[A]

the Room right there. The President said everybody was getting along. He said, the people that have said some foul things about me, we were talking, it was united, the energy was good, we were feeling good about it, things were going great. So whoever was in there, it was like one of those things where, by the way, even the 60 Minutes lady that interviewed him, I watched the whole thing. I don't watch the 13 minute clip that they put on or I didn't watch a clip, I watched a 43 minute clip of the whole thing. And I have my own assessment. If you want to play the nasty clip that the President wasn't too happy about, I'll tell you how I felt the interview went. If you want to play this, Norah

[C]

o' Donnell, I believe, right?

[A]

Is this what the manifesto thing? Rob, go for it. The so called manifesto is a stunning happen like that in the interview. 43 minute, 41 minute interview.

[C]

Officials, they are targets.

[B]

And he knows, he also wrote this.

[A]

I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist and traitor to coat

[B]

my hands with his crime. Look at how he looks right at your reaction.

[A]

Well, I was waiting for you to read that because I knew you would because you're, you're, you're horrible people. Horrible people. Yeah, he did write that. I'm not a rapist, I didn't rape anybody. Oh, you think he was referring to. Come on, you read that crap from some sick person. I got associated with all stuff that has nothing to do with me. I was totally exonerated. Your friends on the other side of the plate are the ones that were involved with, let's say, Epstein or other things. But I said to myself, you know,

[B]

I'll do this interview probably.

[A]

I read the manifesto. You know, he's a sick person. But you should be ashamed of yourself reading that. Because I'm not any of those things. Mr. President. Excuse me, excuse me. You shouldn't be reading that on 60 Minutes. You're a disgrace. But go ahead, let's finish the interview. The other thing that he wrote, by the way, just so you know, in the complete interview, in the first 60 seconds, the president says he read the manifesto.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So the first person that brought up the manifesto was the President. And you could tell she really didn't want to read that. She was uncomfortable. I don't know whether somebody asked her to read it or not, because even at the end what he said, what she said is, hey, Mr. President, thank you for your graciousness. Thank you. And it was a very. I've never seen them Specifically her talk to the President respectfully, where you could tell she was uncomfortable with this interview. Like, she has to do her job. She had to read that because out of all the interview, everything that was discussed, there was nothing else to address but that. Right. Like, I actually don't think she is. What do you call it? Like one of the Jamie Raskin type of things. Jamie's a completely different story. And we can go to Jamie right now as well if you want to see the complete opposite of the nasty. I thought there was good things going on. I thought it was like, all right, this is good. Hey, let's go. Let's do the thing. Let's have the fun. Let's take shots at each other. But the two things that I couldn't stand and one of them is like, above it all, and I want to play another clip that nobody is paying attention to. That I think is the most important message that was given by Van Jones. Him and I were exchanging messages last night is the following. I'll show you, but go to Jimmy Fallon for Jimmy Kimmel first. So this is Jimmy Kimmel a couple days ago while he's doing his monologue, they shoot this to make it seem like he's the comedian for the White House Correspondents Dinner. And in it, they use images of Melania, the first lady, to make it seem like she's in the audience. She's not. This is just B roll that they're adding.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And here's what he had to say. Go ahead, Rob. Our first lady, Melania is here. Look at Melania, so beautiful. Mrs. Trump, you have a glow like an expectant widow. You have a glow like an expected widow.

[D]

So.

[A]

So this is the part where I have a problem with things like this. So people came back and they say, oh, yeah, Are you okay with the President saying, you know, an entire civilization, Iran. Well, that. That is the enemy. He's calling out for somebody in the mainstream who has the biggest show that's on tv. Like, this is the modern. Who is the modern day replacement of a Carson, Letterman or Leno? It's two names.

[B]

Kimmel and.

[A]

And Fallon. Fallon. It's those two. Right? So you get up and you say something like that about the first Lady. Nasty, disgusting, ugly. You don't want to see anything like that. I know. What does Raskin say, Rob, I think you have a Raskin clip as well. So to me, you know, while you're watching this stuff, did he get punched in the face or he has pink eye?

[B]

Something's gone.

[A]

Okay. Something's gone. I hope he recovers. But that's. Go ahead, Rob, play the clip. And you have, as many of your fellow Democrats have used some heated rhetoric against the president. And do you think twice about that? When something like this happens, what rhetoric do you have? Well, she's talking about some of the

[B]

fact that he, you know, is terrible

[A]

for this country and so on and so forth. I understand that that's your Democratic. Right. But overall. Yeah. Do you have a personality? I have no problem with Donald Trump at all. I mean, I talk about the policies of. Of this administration, the authoritarianism, like we saw in Minneapolis. We can play clips and the greatest hits of what things they've said about the president, which is absolutely nasty. There's a lot of it. Okay, but the president said something. He says, look, I study assassinations. He said this right afterwards because he wanted to go on. He's like, I don't want one person to stop the entire thing. I want this thing to continue. But he is being interviewed. This is it. Good, good. Fine. Rob. He's been interviewing. It says, look, I've studied assassinations. I've studied what happens with this. I study why they do this. It's typically the people. And I'll let him address it. Go ahead, Rob. Thank you. President Trump, there's a report in the New York Post that this assailant assembled

[B]

his weapon somewhere on site at the hotel.

[A]

What do you think about that?

[B]

And I ask respectfully, why do you

[A]

think this keeps happening to you? Well, you know, I've studied assassinations, and I must tell you, the most impactful people, the people that do the most. You take a look at the people. Abraham Lincoln, I mean, you go through the people that have gone through this, where they got them, but the people

[B]

that do the most, the people that

[A]

make the biggest impact, they're the ones that they go after. They don't go after the ones that don't do much because they like it that way.

[D]

Hmm.

[A]

And when you look at the people that have. Either whether it was an attempt or a successful attempt, they're very impactful people. Just take a look at the names. They're the big names. And I hate to say I'm honored by that, but I've done a lot. We've done a lot. Pause a rap. You see this. This the part where, you know, to. To. To have a job like this and make the changes that you want to make that are massive, massive changes. It has to be by a leader that understands what the risk is. Like, he's accepted the fact that every day someone's trying to kill him. He's accepted the fact that that comes with the territory. And by the way, he didn't move that fast. Now, Van Jones said this. And Vinny, I'm gonna come to you right after this because this is what I want to get you from. Van Jones said this, and he says this may be the biggest concern and we're gonna find out today because the shooter is alive, he's not dead, he's not talking, which means he's making a comparison of. Imagine the amount of, like, people going, oh, my God, man, Gioni killed the guy, the CEO, and he's alive. So what happens? People are outside celebrating and all this stuff.

[D]

Get your cover shot on real stone.

[A]

Van Jones took a V. Very, very unique angle here. Go ahead, Rob. Starting to worry about something, though, which

[C]

is that the shooter survived, which means

[A]

on Monday he's going to court, which means there is a danger that people

[C]

try to make him some sort of hero.

[A]

You watch what happened with Luigi, who

[C]

shot a CEO to death and somehow became a hero.

[A]

So they said, tonight you saw the worst of America.

[C]

You saw the best of America. Tonight you definitely saw the best of America. I hope on Monday we don't see the worst. Again, I just want to say very

[A]

clearly, this kind of despicable behavior has no place in America. It has no place on the right. It has no place on the left. We don't know if he was there

[C]

because he wanted to hurt Democrats, Republicans. Both were there. We don't know if he wanted to

[A]

hurt journalists or politicians.

[C]

Both were there.

[A]

This kind of behavior has no place in America right there. And it is. Vinny, thoughts?

[B]

It's kind of like, and I'm with you 1000% when there's a moment, Pat, where they're in there in Steltre, who I don't agree with at all that I'm actually upset, but I'm happy that he was fired. Like, these people. These people created this monster.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And then they cry after about the monster that they created. Okay? We want to heal, Pat. We want to be better. We want to be better as human beings. You know, this is a Christian nation. We're trying to be positive. And I like, that's a messed up thing to even say because it's happening probably right now. He's in court. It's. It's what, 10 o' clock in the morning? He's probably going to be in court in the next couple minutes, probably. But it's just a sad thing. That the Brian Stelters, the Jamie Raskins, the msnbc, the. From the Chris Cuomo to every single body for the past nine years that have been telling us every single day it's not, it's not penetrating us. But a lot of Americans, Pat, that have this brainwashed Trump derangement syndrome, where it's past just anger and yelling at your family members. And I'm not going to go to Thanksgiving because, you know, John is going to be there and he loves Trump. It's where they're. They're getting armed and they're going to arm and they're going to kill and they're going to kill. So I'm all for. I love the positive positivity afterwards. Okay? Love each other. But it's like you guys have created this monster, and guess what? How many other monsters are out there that we haven't even seen? You haven't seen anything yet. They're out there. And Trump's gonna have to. By the way, not only President Trump, when he gets out, his family, his family's kids, Barron, everybody is going to have to deal with this forever. And it's because of them. It's because of cnn, it's because of msnb. What Ms. Now you want to change your name? Like, we forgot who you were. It's all these people. But I do think what he's saying is a valid point. They're going to have people falling in love with him. They're in love with this guy. Oh, he's a hero. And who is it going to be coming from? You think any Republicans are going to be over there patting him on the back? This is a left issue that needs to freaking change, Pat. And it's the accountability of saying, I hope you die, I hope you wake. I know I'm all for free speech, but when you call for somebody to die, somebody should go and kill the president. Those people should be. You're inciting an assassination. You want somebody to go and kill somebody. And it's ridiculous. I think it's ridiculous.

[C]

Look, in their minds, Trump is the enemy. So, you know, you said a second ago about, you know, what Trump said about killing a civilization, which obviously was hyperbolic and not true, but they're the enemy. I truly believe that There's a massive faction on the left and somehow on the right now that doesn't view China as the enemy, that doesn't view Russia as the enemy or even Iran as the enemy. There's a singular enemy, and his name is Donald Trump. Imagine that you're An American, you're a citizen of the country and your number one enemy is Donald Trump. I don't think we can understate this even more. How do I have so much conviction? How do I know this to be true? Because TDS is a real thing and I had it. Have you ever had tds?

[B]

Never.

[C]

You ever had that, Pat?

[A]

No.

[C]

You ever had that? For four years during his first term, when I watched MSNBC and Morning Joe and cnn, I watched a whole onslaught of news. I was like, this guy's a Russian asset and he's trying to ruin the country and he can be bought and all that. Thank God I've snapped out of it. Do you know anyone else who despised Trump and now absolutely admires him?

[B]

No, because you want.

[C]

Hold on, but let me just finish

[B]

it so I don't forget.

[C]

It's something that needs to be studied and cannot just be dismissed. Why? These people view Trump as the enemy. And here's what happens. Let's use Jimmy Kimmel as an example. Not only is he condoning killing the President, making a joke out of it, saying, Melania, you have the glow of a beautiful widow, they're promoting it, they're putting it on tv saying, guys. They're inserting the laugh track, saying, this is hilarious, guys. And don't tell me that a large percentage of the country would not celebrate if Trump got shot. Cuz I'll give you exhibit A, Charlie Kirk while they're dancing on his grave. Or I'll give you exhibit B. How many people. Oh, they wish they got him in the ear. I wish they would have got him. So don't tell me there's a huge population in this country that wouldn't be gleeful if Trump got shot. Yeah, and that to me is disgusting.

[B]

Can I ask him one question? And do you remember? And do this really fast. I know he wants Tom to say his piece. What? What's the moment? Do you remember the moment? Because you went from I hate him, Russia, everything. What was the moment? Do you remember the moment where you went, oh my God, I was. What the hell? Like, there had to be a moment where you switched. What was it?

[C]

Number one, I never hated Trump. I don't use that word. Pat knows. I never. I don't like the things, but I think Covid was. I think everybody had to wake up during COVID Everybody. We had to realize, what? Is this true? Do we need to wear a mask? Do we need to get a job? What's going on? Who do we trust? Who do we not trust? And then it all just unraveled. And then the moment. There was no singular moment. But if you just look at what was going on during the Biden administration, what did he do that you could say, that's my guy.

[A]

Vinny, I will tell you from the outside, okay? Because Adam's not the only guy. He wants to think he's the only guy. Millions on this podcast, on this podcast, fine. But millions. Rob was a guy. And just Rob doesn't say it. Rob didn't come here, be in full agreement with me politically. Are you kidding me? No. A lot of people, as you're going through it, and by the way, I remember also there were some guys that had left him that had gone to desantis. They're like, desantis is the guy. Which, by the way, the market's going to be very confused with me, because do not be surprised if in 2028, I'm, you know, a, a guy that wants to see DeSantis make the next move. And I got a couple guys. I, I actually think he. I just didn't want DeSantis in 24. But you know what it is, Here's a part that I want everybody to be thinking about. You know, my dad would say something. He says, pat, when you were going through trouble and a lot of people had written you off, and you would act like you were not listening to me, I knew you were listening. I knew you were still listening. And as a father, I would pray every night that my son, my only son, would figure out to do something with his life. And I knew what I wasn't going to do is stop talking to you and stop giving you what I thought you needed to do. Whether it was, life is getting late. It's getting late. Do something with your life. Stop. Because I was in a club six days a week. I was partying and not doing anything useful with my life. It was just bodybuilding girls and, you know, partying. And that was it. It's like, hey, get your act together. And I'm like, I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it. You know, you can't tell me anything. And then all of a sudden it happens, right? So I don't think it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a one day thing. I don't think it's a one day thing. I think it is like gradually, eventually it lands. By the way, this is good and bad. I mean, I have a question to ask you that's going to be a bigger question to ask that. I want you and I want the audience to process this. And I know what we're going to get already with this. I'm very comfortable. The other day I've been trying to get all of these people that are making the claims, the biggest names, get the biggest names that are criticized to taking money from Qatar or Pakistan or China or Israel or anybody. I am willing to do a full on audit on me and my wife's finances. I publicly called out the biggest players to get this out there. Call me. I called it out because what upsets me the most is the following. What upsets me the most is the following is the fact that people who are not fully in it, they will. Propaganda works, Vinny. It's a very beautiful thing. Nasty, but it works. And so to me, I got a question for the three of you guys. Say you have a billion dollars to use for propaganda. Okay. You have a billion dollars to use for propaganda. And Vinny, I'm going to come to you first. Then Tom, I'm going to come to you and then I'll come to you as well. Billion dollars of using propaganda. And by the way, Rob, run this poll. And Humberto, I want you to text me which one you're going to choose. Okay? You have a billion dollars to buy any one of these three communities. Which one do you buy? You ready? Go for it. Do you buy Congress, politicians? Do you buy podcasters? Influencers? Okay. Or do you buy the youth? Rank it from 1, 2, 3. You have a billion dollars. Which of those three do you want to buy? So Congress would be what, you're able to change policies, to protect for your nation, to protect for you. The youth is long term. My God. Right, and then you have what the next one is what? Podcast, Podcasters, influencers, streamers. Right. My God, let me get, let me get the kids, let me get the streamers. You have a billion dollars. You're, you're another country. Where do you put your money? Which of those three do you think is the most powerful place to put your money? To brainwash. To get them to think the way you think, to control the minds. Where do you put your money? Rank it. One, two, three. Rob, have you already posted the poll? Yep. Okay, go ahead.

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A billion dollars.

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You have a billion dollars to buy of propaganda, to push your agenda.

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Which of those, Number one would be the youth? I put the majority of my money into the youth to get them, get them early, change the mindset. I'm, I see it with my own Eyes. And it's insane because I see the machine speaking out of their mouth. It's that they're not coming up with these ideas on their own. Number one. Number two, podcasters, every single day, listening to these, people follow streamers, like the amount of people. Because nobody's following Congress. People are following podcasters. And once you have an audience that's watching millions and millions, and you have, you know, 5 to 10 million subscribers, and they're listening every single day. And by the way, they're not fact checking you. You become their fact. It's whatever this person's saying. So I'd go number one, youth, number two, podcaster. Number three, Congress. Because, yeah, they're doing the laws, Pat, but they're not moving the leak needle.

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So for you, it's youth. Youth, podcaster, Congress, podcasters, Congress, Tom.

[D]

First I'm gonna go podcasters and media. Cause with podcasters and media, I pick the right podcasters, I get the youth, the youth is number two, and number three is Congress. Cause if I get the podcast and

[A]

media, when I say Congress, I mean

[D]

politicians, then politicians is number three. I get politicians if I get number one. All right, pockets me now, and I'll tell you why. You know, the late P.G. o' Rourke wrote a fantastic essay about 25 years ago, and it was called the Three Branches of Government. Money, television, and bullshit. And that's. Sorry to say that, but that's what he called it. And he pointed out that with the money, you now get everything you want on television, and with television, you then get the bs, which is the propaganda. I think it was as real when he wrote it as it is today.

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Ad. That's my three beautiful.

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I'll rank them. One, two, three. Number one would be youth, number two would be the podcasters, and number three would be Congress. If I had to allocate $1 billion of resources, Congress would get zero. The podcasters, influencers would get $100 million. I would pump $900 million.

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And let me tell you something.

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To the youth, aka TikTok.

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Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. So to me, you know, you know who made a mistake. You know who made a mistake. Okay? So let's go to countries, allies and enemies. Give me the most important countries that get alleged for buying influence. Give me the top five countries. We're number one, by the way. We buy influence like no other, right? We're selling capitalism, free market values, you know, all this stuff. But give me countries, foreign countries that are trying to do buy influence in America. Give me the top five countries.

[B]

Israel's obviously going to be.

[A]

Israel's on that list. Who else?

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No, China's my number one.

[A]

Who else? He said Israel, though. Watch what the market does. This is where I'm going with this.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So Israel, China. What other country?

[C]

Saudi.

[A]

Saudi. What other country? Qatar. Qatar.

[C]

Qatar.

[A]

What other country? Can we just put those? Because I don't even think Russia is doing a lot of this, but we can put Russia in here as well.

[C]

Russia might not give as much money, but they're going to use property.

[A]

Now watch this. Rob, pull up this chart. Before you pull it up, before you pull it up, can you tell me what country right now is putting the most money into our educational system right now?

[C]

China.

[A]

Pull it up, Rob.

[B]

How much?

[A]

Put it up. Pull it up.

[B]

I know.

[C]

In Qatar.

[A]

Pull it up. Number one is Qatar.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

In universities. In universities, 6.3 billion. And number two is China. Foreign funders of US colleges and universities. What do you think Qatar is doing? They know. Let me get the youth and I'll confuse the shit out of them for two decades. Go pay like. AIPAC has given money to who? Congress. What a waste of money. What a waste of money. So they lost the propaganda game and Qatar is winning the propaganda game. Where's China is winning the propaganda? Israel's not on that list. Bermuda's at 1.7 billion.

[D]

May I make a short observation?

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Of course, yes.

[D]

What are the last two words of the headline?

[B]

All time.

[D]

Qatar. All time. Which means that the bulk of that just happened now.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[D]

And China's been doing this for all time.

[A]

So do you know what this means to me? Let me tell you what this means to me.

[D]

Am I wrong?

[C]

No, absolutely right.

[A]

This means to me. You know what Lenin said many years ago? Here's what Lenin said many years ago. Lenin said this Many, many years ago, okay? Many, many years ago. He says, give me control of a nation's music and I care not who makes the laws.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Give me control of a nation's music and I care not who makes its laws. What is he saying? Who listens to the music? The youth. The culture.

[D]

Music. Come through.

[A]

Youth. So Qataris are sitting there saying, hey, let me go get the youth at these universities. Let me go win them over. Let's give $6.3 billion to the US universities and we'll get a hold of all these kids. And guess what these kids do? Who uses most social media, Youth or older people?

[C]

Youth.

[A]

Youth. And what are they going to do on Streamers, gaming, all that stuff. And then you see some of these guys right now are like, I hope their capitalist blood don't say the name. The capitalist blood is all over the da da da da.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And who's listening to them streamers?

[B]

All the young, of course.

[A]

Of course. So, so, so the, the, the, the part you have to respect the enemy is good for, you know, on the enemy side. Look what they did. They sat there in a meeting and they said, forget about the politicians, those guys are idiots. Giving money to congress, they don't do shit. Let's go buy the youth, put the money in the youth. Let's go get the universities. Cutter, follow China's lead. And what happens now to these universe? Imagine you're ahead of a university and so you run the university and I'm Qatar and I just gave you $150 million. What phone call are you picking up? Who are, what influence are you more loyal to America or the guy that's giving you 100?

[B]

Guy that gave me 100. If I'm that guy, the guy, the

[A]

money, that is the part. So when Everybody's saying, oh, $7,000 or this or this or that and all that, even there was an influencer that said, look at all these MAGA influencers that they all retweeted immediately and said, this is why we need to. This is why we need to what? This is why we need the ballroom.

[B]

The ballroom.

[A]

The ballroom.

[C]

Which probably.

[A]

I don't even care about the ballroom. Like you do it or you don't do the ballroom. It's. I don't even know what the budget for that is. Who cares? I never once have commented on it. It's not a top 50 issue for me. When it comes down to the ballroom. You've never heard me talk about the ballroom. Although we're building an amphitheater ourselves here. We're building a kitchen, we're building a, what do you call it, a meeting room. And we're building a facility, 10 story facility, that's a penthouse conference center. Why? Because we, you know, we keep going to hotels. I want to do the meetings here. It's a lot easier, secure. We built the wall. You know, a lot of people have been texting me over the weekend saying, I just finally saw the gate. It looks like a Jurassic park gate that we got outside. I don't know if you saw coming in today. Did you see how it was?

[B]

I saw a T. Rex.

[C]

He almost didn't let me in.

[A]

That was intentional. But there's a part of it that a part of it is that you have to pay attention to where they're giving their money to. The same way you invest in equities, real estate, crypto, bitcoin, governments, countries, ideologies. They don't care about that stuff. They're buying ears. They're buying ears. And the best way to do it is get the youth because you have them for two decades. If you get them, it's a 20 year run rate. They'll come out of it in 20 years.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Why will it come out of in 20 years? Because what's probably going to happen between 18 and 38? What's probably going to grow up?

[C]

You're going to have a family, you're going to have kids, you're going to get a job.

[A]

Why?

[C]

Taxes.

[A]

You're going to do all that. You're going to do all of that stuff. Then what do you do? What the F am I doing?

[C]

Yeah, of course.

[A]

Why am I a feminist? Why do I hate America? Well, these conservative ideas are better ideas. Get them early. Put the hate and rage. And America is not the greatest country. It sucks. And then slowly it tips slowly. And so I call our audience, the smartest audience out there. If you watch it because you agree or disagree or whatever you are, I think you're the smartest audience out there that we have. And we're going to keep talking about this kind of stuff. And but I'm just telling you right now, guys, be very, very intentionally careful of the propaganda machine that is taking place from our enemies. They want to see a massive division in America. Massive. This guy goes to Caltech, smart guy comes out, you hate America. You hate. You want to kill this guy. Look, look at the power of propaganda. We have to pay attention to some of these things that are taking place. Yeah, I'll give you another one to go to. Rob and Tom, I'm going to come to you with this one. Here is think about Forbes magazine. Forbes magazine comes out and tweets this. Okay, this is Forbes magazine's tweet. Can you zoom in a little bit to that? And then we'll go to my comments. Elon Musk is planet's richest person BY Far worth $839 billion. As a Forbes annual world's Billionaire list, he ranks. But he also ranks amongst the least philanthropic billionaires. Sure, Musk has transferred 8 and a half billion dollars of Tesla stock to his charitable foundation, but nearly all of it is still sitting there idle. Only an estimated $500 million, or 0.06% of his mass vast fortune has ever been dispersed to those in need. His lack of giving raises a question. Would what would our billionaires ranking look like if the most generous people had ever donated a dollar? To who? To who? Who do you want him to give it to? Can you go back one real quick on, on my, my message about Forbes. Who the hell approved a Chinese Investor to buy 51% of Forbes? Why would Steve Forbes, Malcolm Forbes Son, sell 51% control to a Chinese investor since 24? Why would you do it? He sounds like a nice guy. He sounds like a noble guy. His father did amazing things. If you type in capitalist tool, this guy had a private jet. Covers a capitalist tool. He had a yacht. Capitalist tool. He had a helicopter. Guess what it said on it? Capitalist tool. Just type in images, Rob. If you go on images, you'll see all of this stuff that I'm talking about. That was his jet. What does it say at the end of it? Capitalist tool. Go to his helicopter. Go to the yacht if you can. This guy was selling capitalism. And Forbes today is selling socialism. Everything about this man, this man turned 70 years old. You know what he did at 7 years old? 70 years old. He put on a party he was best friends with. Look at the helicopter. What does it say? Capitalist tool on his helicopter. Vinaya puts a party on its 70th birthday party. Everybody who attends, you know what gift they got? Everybody got a Rolex as a gift for attending his birthday party. Wow. Okay. Elizabeth Taylor, him and her would always write the Harley Davidson together. He had the biggest collection of Faberge, you know, the Russian Faberge. Nobody had more than he had. This guy was a billionaire. He would put lavish parties. Celebrate capitalism, celebrate victory. Now the socialist magazine, they have to change the name, change the name to Johnson or, or change the name to, I don't know, whatever you want to put it. But change and change the Forbes name of the magazine at least, or they need a new buyer. By the way, remember when that one guy, Tom, that the rumor had it this guy bought Forbes for $800 million at a 75% part of the Forbes. That deal never went through. So the company that owns Forbes still today. Do you know who Forbes announced as the International Woman of the Year? You know, in 2021? Put Hillary Clinton. Rob, just type in Hillary Clinton, okay? Can you imagine, you know who they have to have there where the lifetime achievement medal for Forbes International Women's Day goes to Hillary Clinton in 2022. Seriously, for what? What part of that is capitalism is that capital going To Haiti. Is that capitalism? What part of this is capitalism? And by the way, these, these, these people that are forcing charity on people. These people that are forcing charity on. First of all, Tom, I'll come to you and I'll read what I have here from this book. Go ahead, Tom. Your reaction to this?

[D]

So my reaction to this is for them to say this and go out like this. First of all, I've read about

[B]

one

[D]

of the producers, not producers, but the lead editors. I'm not meaning to give him

[C]

the

[D]

liberty and the recognition of saying his name, but he went to Columbia School of Journalism and he's like 28 years old. Pat, that's the guy that wrote that article about philanthropy. So, gee, what do you think his position is? Right?

[A]

It's a good point.

[D]

What is his bias? And also say this. When we. You mentioned something about Nora o', Donnell, you said maybe she didn't look like she wanted to ask the question. The key is, every two weeks we're hearing about Bari Weiss. This person leaves or that person leaves. Barry Weiss apparently is trying to clean things up. At least. At least that's what we hear from the outside, right? The producers are the ones. You know, it's people like Keith Sharman and Julie Mortzkoff and Roxanne Feitel. Those are the producers at cbs. And the producer is in the earpiece asking her to say things. And those are the people to watch out for because they're driving the narrative. So I want to know who Forbes editors are. And guess what? To control a magazine, all you do is control the editors. Because the editors green light the stories. So green light the stories. All you need to do is have a guy that owns 51%. Pat, all you need is four editors. Believe it or not, I looked it up. They say four editors and the editor in chief. And three editors can control the entire narrative of the magazine or of the. Of the channel. That's all we need. And this is who is doing it. To me, this is horrifying. And by the way, if you're asking me also what I feel about philanthropy, charities, most of the time, they become perpetual motion machines. Charity is supposed to be in place to fix something. Save the whales. Well, how do we know when we're all saved? Do we move on to something else? No, we keep saving the whales. And you keep raising money for us, and you keep doing that. Most charities never end. And what happens is the original mission gives way to the bloat of everybody being part of the charity. And it's a tax Deduction and all this I only give, and Pat knows this for something. Beginning, middle, end. What do we need to fix? Do we need a pool? Do we need this? What do we need? I'll get involved, but onward, onward, onward. It's very, very difficult for me and Forbes. I think somebody should step in here. This is once upon a time it was the vision of capitalism, Pat. And I believe Forbes can be that again. But it's going to take somebody else at the helm.

[C]

Adam. Well, you talked earlier about capitalism and I'm just comment on that for a second. In our group chat, there was something that the guy Sean McGuire had to say and this essentially, I'll just sum it up real quick. The Democratic Party that we were all used to no longer exists. And he basically says that the DNC has now been replaced by a coup with the dsa, the Democratic Socialists of America. And I've said this before on the podcast, do you remember a time where socialists would openly, proudly say, vote for me, the socialist candidate. It used to be a communist. I'm a socialist. Let's keep it a secret. And then what happens is this over time you talked about paying and getting hijacked. Words have meaning. You're saying words have power. Words can change things. You know what bad words are now? Capitalism is a bad word. Trump is a bad word. Israel is a bad word. America has become a bad word. Patriotism is a bad word. But you know what good words are? Communism, socialism, Trans Free Palestine. All the things that were bad 20 years ago are now good in the Democratic Party, the dsa. And all the bad things, all the good things are now bad. Things have flipped. Who has changed more over the last 20 years? Republican Party, Conservatives or Democrats? Liberals? To me it's not even close. Republicans have maybe moved to further to the right, more patriotic. The left has gone full progressive and they're all socialists and communists. So you have Trump on one side, then you have Ilhan, Omar and Mamdani on the other side. Those two weren't even born in America. There's the problem.

[A]

Let me read this to you. So in 1935, you know who was the richest man in the world?

[C]

Rockefeller.

[A]

Well, you know who number two was? Henry Ford ii. You know what Henry Ford II wanted to do? Entertain charity. Let me tell you what he ends up regretting. Okay, what he ends up regretting. Why I no longer believe in this whole concept of when I die, I'm going to die with zero and leave it all for charity. The dumbest idea in the world. After I read this to you. The dumbest idea in the world. Give to charity today if you trust the person that's running it. Do not leave in your inheritance for a charity that is going to be anybody else that could be running it that things could change. Look what happened to Henry Ford that he eventually resigned from the charity that he started himself. So it was in the home that Etzel Ford was confronted with a greater challenge. In 1935, Roosevelt administration pushed through tax reforms that demanded 70% of large inheritances. When his father died, Edsel realized the family would be forced to liquidate their stock and lose control of the company which bore their name. So Henry Ford, despite his reputation as a where he stood with charities. Historian William Greenleaf estimated that elder Ford donated $37.6 million to charity during his lifetime. He built a world class hospital in Detroit as well as a Henry Ford museum in Greenfield Village. In Dearborn was one of the most important institutions dedicated to American history in the hopes of preserving at least a part of our history and tradition. He did not believe that charity meant for more financial donation but involved a living activity stating I do not believe in giving folks things. I do believe in giving them a chance to make things for themselves. So look how the story goes. So Edsel seemed to have worked. Henry Ford II in control was the most powerful person in America. They started a donation. There were only two other foundation trustees, both men employed by the Ford Motor Company. So they started a charity, they're running it. There's only two other people part of the board, Tom and they're both working for who? Ford Motor Company. The chaos came slowly then all at once. Henry Ford II was persuaded that he had a moral responsibility to democratize control of the foundation as was increasingly regarded as best practice for charitable organizations at the time. So he's trying to be noble and saying hey you know what, let's open it up and let's have more people on the board, not just me. Since I started it and I'm giving all the money, 100% of the money is coming from me. Well, let's open it up. The number of trustees does increase and over time these trustees over increased in boldness and challenging Ford's opinion. He's giving the money now they're telling him we're not going to do that. So watch this. As the influence of those outside of family grew, priorities shifted away from traditional Michigan focus of Henry Ford to now the places. In 1950 the trustee signed the report of the study of the Ford foundation on policy and Program announcing five areas of action. Economic improvement. Education, freedom and democracy. Human behavior and what world peace. They decided that their responsibility was no longer to just Michigan, which is where he built everything. It was to who the world. 1953 the foundation transferred its base of operations from Detroit to where New York City. It continues HENRY Ford Detroit was left to crumble by 1970s Henry Ford second loss of control was near total. With then President McGregory McGeorge Bundy flatly denying George request. Vinnie, check this out. Henry Ford is putting money into charity. He's saying, I want to give money to Henry Ford Hospital. The president of the charity named the Ford foundation says I'm not going to. I'm going to. He flat out denies Ford's request for donation to Henry Ford Hospital. Bundy had more important things to focus on on matters of the world. Author Heather McDonald summarized that his focus became the world. So imagine you're. I'm like, hey Vinnie, you're running my charity. Hey, can you give some money to my hospital? No, we got better things.

[B]

Other stuff going on we got to solve.

[A]

But watch what ends up. More Radical still was a force foundation experience of eugenics and population control in the 70s. Motivated by the belief that global starvation was imminent of the population bomb was not addressed. For example, foundation official Douglas Ensminger create a large scale sterilization program in India offering vasectomies to millions. This program infrastructure was then co opted and made mandatory by Indian prime minister at the time Indira Gandhi. Likely influenced by Ford foundation who ordered a declaration of national emergency and embarked on a forced sterilization drive which sterilized over 6 million men in 1976 alone. Ford Foundation 6 million men were sterilized in India because of Henry Ford's foundation against his wishes. So in December of that year 1976 Henry Ford lost all control of the foundation. He resigned his role and said the following in protest a public letter that he wrote front page news 1976 the diffuse array of enterprises upon which the foundation has embarked in recent years is almost guaranteed that few people anywhere will share a common perception of what the foundation is all about. How it sees its mission, how it serves society. It's a dangerous sign. At the time I did it on purpose because I thought it was the right thing to do. Beginning now, I think I made a mistake. I should have kept control. And this is at a New York Times story. Do you know what these guys end up? The Ford foundation remains a raging bull on this day. Now totally divorced from anything the original Ford family members have recognized in the last decade. You ready? What they put their money into? They have given millions to Southern Vision Alliance, a creation of the revolutionary Marxist Leninist group the World Workers Party. That's not what he stood for. The foundation grant database accessible online lists numerable bizarre donations. $300,000 to build grassroots Muslim power. $600,000. A Chinese state think tank to promote the formation of an internationally accepted ESG system with Chinese characteristics. In 2020, their blog proudly announced. We're seeing grantees at the forefront of change that's taken place over the last few years. The Lake Council of Minneapolis pledge to dismantle the police department. Their work is far from over. This charity started good and now they want to get rid of the police. And so when you look at this American Red Cross, half a billion dollars. After the 2010 earthquake that took place, they raised. They raised a half a billion dollars of which $170 million was earmarked for shelter. But just six permanent structures were built. The Gates foundation spent billions of dollars to reform the US school system. The effort ended after investigation found the interventions were ineffective. Madonna's $15 million raising Malwi Academy for Girls project was destroyed before it broke ground, having wasted millions on salaries, cars and golf memberships. Weird. And this I promise school that LeBron James started in 2023 had not a single eighth grade student passed the test for math in three years. So guess what? When it comes down to charity, unless if the person running the charity is active today, leave 100% of the money to your family and your kids and do it in a proper way on what it goes to them. This whole pressure about putting money into charities. You know who's given the most money to charity in a single year in the history of America? You know who? A guy named Elon Musk. He paid $11 billion in taxes. That's charity. And you want to say these billionaires freaking Forbes magazine becoming socialist. Should have never sold to China. Why would you sell to China? 41%. 51% to China. What do you think they're going to do? Oh, they remained a small percentage on Forbes family. They own you. You do what they do. Your dad would have never approved of this. So I think this whole concept of what they're doing right now to pressure billionaires. You know what Warren Buffett just announced recently? Guess what Warren Buffett just said. I'm out of Bill Gates. I'm not doing this no more with you.

[D]

Oh, really?

[A]

I'm out.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Give money to today. Never leave a penny to a Single charity after you die, not a single penny. Control it. To go to the right causes based on the right values, write it in your trust, write it in your will. If it's not a cause that matches the values and principle, not a penny can my kids give to that organization. So I think this is a very weird time we're living in, but we got to go back to teaching people history, what mistakes people made, how to do it better. You're creating the wealth. The ultimate wealth you're making is for who?

[C]

Yourself and your family.

[A]

Yourself and your family. So you set up to have a chance. You're setting it up so your kids have a chance at winning in life. There is nothing wrong with giving your kids a head start. If you work your ass off for all this money, give it to them. Leave it to them. Not to charities. These charities don't care about you. They don't wake up in the morning thinking about your kids and your family.

[B]

Well, you just made a great point, too. Like, they raised how many millions and millions of dollars and they couldn't even build the thing because they were golf court, golf memberships and cars and what the hell?

[D]

You.

[A]

Second Corinthians, 12, 14. After all, children should not have to save up for their parents, but their parents for their children. Let me read it again. Corinthians. After all, children should not save up for their parents, but parents for their children.

[C]

Interesting.

[A]

It's our job to take care of them, not their job to take care of us. We're supposed to set them up. It's our job to give them a head start, not the other way around. So this. There's so much confusion out there with what we're talking about, and then, oh, kids have to take care of their. Their. I mean, don't get me wrong. We. I do it proudly. I'm. I'm grateful in a biggest way. So it's not like it's a burden. Oh, my God. I feel burdened by it. But it's our job to set them up, not these freaking charities. Who the hell are these charities? Be charitable. Give to your church. If you trust where the money is going to. Like, Tom and I, we sat down, they're coming up to us. He. Can you give us money? Where is this money going to? Swimming pool. His daughter swims. Let's support. Where is this money going to? To a library. What? Is it going to have great support? Where is this money going to? No. Instead of doing this. No, no, no. So I don't know. I think. I think this whole thing, as you go deeper into it, folks who are making money in our audience, a good percentage of you guys are fairly wealthy. Get very serious about estate planning and your living trust in place or else that money's going to get wasted by somebody doesn't have the similar cause as you.

[C]

Pat, how much crossover is there with the barbarians to bureaucrats that you always talk about? Is this basically that you start as the barbarian, you start as the prophet, and then the bureaucrats take over and they start basically imposing their will against whatever you want.

[A]

It's the guilt. It's the guilt of being wealthy. It's the guilt of being successful. It's the guilt of, oh, my God, I'm so guilty. You know, I have too much money. I have too much this. Stop it.

[B]

Stop.

[A]

A lot.

[C]

Oh, you think that the founder or the person that made the billions has like, almost like survivor's guilt?

[A]

Yeah. So Henry Ford that started the charity, he felt guilty that he was too rich. So let's give some money away because that's the right thing to do. And you know what? Let's extend the board. Let's extend it because these are nice people and the people you extend the board to come back and tell you, no, you can't give money to a hospital. You start, it's like, wait a minute, then I resign. No, we're not doing it.

[C]

I always find it so interesting. Like, you see someone like Mark Benioff, how do you start from being an ultra capitalist and then becoming basically a socialist? Like, we just, we talked about that. Starbucks moving their headquarters.

[A]

There's a lot of different things that you can go with that. But anyways, I. I want this. This was something on my mind this weekend. I want to let her out. Let it out there. Let the audience do whatever they want to do with it. By the way, let me go to this next one, then I'll come to you guys. Pull up the Shema tweet, if you could. Rob, pull up the shamat to Tom. I'm going to come to you first and then add them to you next. So here's shamat. We know about the billionaire tax that California is talking about, right? 5%, but it's just the billionaires. Just the billionaires. And then Shamad Palapitiya post this tweet that I retweeted. The devils and the what? You ever hear the line the devil's in the what? So the billionaire tax is actually on everyone tax. The billionaire tax. A new tax protocol written by four professors who don't believe in the American dream. Some of them aren't even American. Go figure. Despite its name, it applies to every California resident who currently has assets or ever will. The creators named it the Billionaire Tax so you would get in to a fraud and wouldn't look closely at what it actually does to you. On page 26, it explains how the government can convert to an everyone tax without voter approval. Bingo. Motive. They can also adjust the tax to be a yearly tax, not just a one time thing. Again, without your what?

[B]

Approval.

[A]

Here's how the tax would work. As a voter, you're being asked to probate tax. That would require you to one, list all your assets and the value of each. Then submit them to California Franchise Tax Board. Two, authorize the tax board to appraise your assets and confirm the value of each. Three, pay penalty of up to 40% of your tax bill if the board determines your reported value was too low in their opinion. Four, allow the tax board to subpoena your financial records from every one of your financial institutions for auditing. This everyone tax runs 34 pages of shifty language describing how the government plans to take your assets. Read the fine print and decide for yourself. If this were truly a billionaire tax, it would be three pages. It's 34 pages. So it can create the mechanisms to steal from all of you. Go a little bit low. Rob, if he has the picture on there or not? I thought he did.

[B]

California.

[A]

I thought he did. So, Tom, before we find the picture, Tom, your thoughts on this? Because the average person is like, we should tax the billionaires more. Where do you stand with this?

[D]

Says if you only vote on headlines, you deserve the fine print. If you read everything through and you're an informed voter, then you should be evangelizing and being an ambassador of truth in your circle around the people you work and you live and you go to church and soccer and everything else with this reminds me of when Nancy Pelosi was cornered. Vinny, remember this? Nancy Pelosi gets cornered on what was the bill, the healthcare bill says, well, we'll know what's in it after we pass it. Do you remember that?

[B]

Yeah, of course.

[D]

She gets cornered. Guess what? This is the same thing. This is not a coincidence. This is the way government works. The way government works is you run headlines to create emotions. This is the Democrat playbook. You run headlines to create a motion. People go, oh my gosh. And they say, good news, we're taxing the rich. Bad news, now I think you're rich. That's the Way this is working and Chamath has pointed it out. This is government at its worst. This is the way we talked. Pelosi talked about it. Pat, I am unsurprised. I knew it was coming because I said, you just wait. It's gonna be the opposite of Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders was all the millionaires need to go, all the millionaires need to go. Then it's all the billionaires. Cause Sanders became a millionaire, remember? He shifted all of his rhetoric and there's all those funny videos how he doesn't say millionaires anymore. He just says billionaires cuz he joined the club with three houses. Well, guess what? It's here. This is exactly what we said was gonna happen. Pat, people gotta be educated voters. Don't vote on headlines. Find out what it says. We've been taught to pick up juice. I see people picking up juice at Trader Joe's, at the supermarket, and I'll see them look at the back. And I have personally heard people saying, honey, that's not juice. That's 180 calories of sugar. I've seen it. So we're learning to do that. We have to do the same thing with the bills we're voting on. Check the ingredients. Because it doesn't. Government is just not out to take from one or to impugn one. They're out to impugn and control all of us.

[A]

Rob, is that the page of what it says?

[C]

I believe so.

[D]

25 of 32.

[A]

25 of 32. Where's the part that it says? At any point, did you find that part or no? Okay, Adam, I'll come to you. I'll look for this here right now. Adam, go for it.

[C]

Yeah, well, we need to stop villainizing rich people because it's the easiest thing to do. Well, the rich people did it. Well, you know, the capitalists, it's their problem. The victim Olympics is a real thing. Let me tell you something. You know, every year I go to the Special Olympics, my friends put it on. You know, we have a problem with entitlement and welfare in this country. Let me tell you something. Unless you qualify to compete in the Special Olympics, meaning like you just literally can't take care of yourself. I don't want to hear about your problems. Nobody cares. The victim Olympics, the blame. Why do the rich people do this? They can't do this. Remember when AOC showed up to like the Met gala and taxed the rich? This is their whole notion right now. I think there needs to be a new conversation in this country. Between what capitalism is and what socialism is, one of your most viewed things you've ever done. PPD was the jubilee debate. People would hit me up. You know, people like, hit you up. Oh, I saw this. Oh, I saw this. People were fascinated about that. Because that's a conversation that needs to happen. I truly believe that capitalists, the business owners, need to educate their workers how salaries work, how taxes work. Because if you ever hear the socialists talk, the Democratic socialists of America talk, they talk about we represent working people, working people, that we're all working people. So remember you told a story about when Trump did his tax cuts about. You said, however long you've been with me at the company, for every month you've been here, you're going to get a hundred dollars. Is that the correct story? Yep. So someone who's been working there for three years is, oh, my God, just got 3, 500 bucks. It's incredible that, you know, they say, you say don't show tell is better to. What? What's the thing you always say?

[A]

I don't know which. Which one?

[C]

You say don't. You said it's better to show than tell, essentially.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

There's a phrase that you always talk about.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But you showed them what it's like when you get a tax cut, you're going to reap the benefits of it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

There's too much of a gap between the rich people and the working class. And I think a conversation is due to say, those are paying you.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

But the two different things. I see what you're saying, you're talking about the taxes, but the reason that people are advocating for the taxes is because the poor people don't understand the benefit to the rich person, the job creator, the entrepreneur, they took the risk. They started this conversation. And you have the benefit of it.

[A]

No question about it. For me, when it comes down to a conversation like this, when they think they're just targeting billionaires, they're not targeting billionaires. Mamdani is not going after billionaires. Mamdani is, you know, he's a guy that he would like to avenge in an ideal world. Mamdani would like to be a communist is what he would like to be. He would like to get rid of all the billionaires, and he would like there to be no existent of any billionaires. I even think he said that in the past before. Yeah. That he thinks we don't need billionaires. Right. And many others have said that as well. The issue with affordability is something that we have. Whoever is able to figure that part out is going to win elections, whoever. The other day I had Dominic Tarzinski on. And you know, what's the one thing they do in Poland now that they came up with three years ago? I think it's a brilliant idea, Vinnie. It's in Poland now. If you're 26 or younger, you pay no federal income tax if you're 26 or younger. So if you make $100,000 a year, guess how much you keep. $100,000. If you make a half a million dollars a year, you keep a half a million dollars. So I said, what if we did that for 30 or under? What if you're under 30? Whatever you make, you keep. What if you did that? What would happen to the youth? And what if you said if you have four kids or more, if you have four kids or more from the age your kids are 0 to 18 years old, you pay no federal income taxes. Think about that for a second. But it's four kids, husband and wife. The two of you guys, not like the Middle Eastern way. I'm talking like the traditional way. Four kids. Right. I don't want you to accelerate it and go and say, let's practice polygamy so I can get four kids in one year because I'm making 100 million this year. I want to accelerate the process, create a charity. Yeah, but I do child tax. There's going to be someone in the next 12, 24, 36 months that's going to come out with some creative ideas to make sure the youth don't pay any taxes until they're 30 years old.

[B]

Because you're going to incentivize that kid to hustle and bust their butt and make money. And then you're going to have other people to have a bunch of kids.

[A]

It is a real issue. Can we get to the next why Vinnie doesn't want to buy the thing.

[C]

I just want to give you credit. You always talk about more is caught than taught. That's what I was thinking about. Did you hear what Bill Maher said? So if you want to go to look at this story, Bill Maher basically called out Bernie Sanders about taxes. I think it's an important addendum to basically.

[A]

I saw that. Basically said last week you were about to go to it.

[C]

Yeah, Last I paid the government. If you add state. State tax, local tax.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[C]

Sales, property, and Obamacare, probably almost 60% of what I earn in California. He said, while, while I'm sure the super rich with our army of accountants and corporate loopholes get away with murder. Us regular rich people pay a ton of tax. And here's the numbers. The top 10% of America pays 72% of all taxes. Top 10%, the bottom half. So the 50% of this country that's basically earning less than $40,000, do you know how much they pay in taxes? 3%. So this whole taxing the rich. Taxing the rich, taxing the rich federally, where can they go? They'll leave the country. But if you do it in a state, how many people are going to leave California? You left California. 13%. How many people leave New York? So more is taught than talk when it affects you.

[A]

This is just the beginning. This is just the beginning. But let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get to is Trump abruptly cancels Kushner Witkoff's Pakistan trip. And so they won't be going. And at the same time, the Iran guy, Abbas Al Rachi, I believe that's his name, he went to Pakistan, then went to Oman and is in Russia. And I think he is meeting with Putin as we speak, if I'm not mistaken. Okay, that is going on right now as we speak. They just landed in Russia. They're about to meet with Putin, allegedly, is the story that we keep reading about that this may be taking place right now. Trump also said he's taking a nukes off the table with Iran. He doesn't have any interest in doing anything with nukes. And if you go in the market, look at what the market's doing today. Gold is back up to 96. I don't know where it's at. Not gold. Oil is back up to 9630. Market's down slightly. Nothing major. It's down slightly, but oil is up. So in a part of this oil story, Tom, I'm going to come to you is I think it's in the addendum with what the oil is doing. Trump claims Iran's oil infrastructure may explode in three days due to US Blockade. So, Rob, if you have that clip, go for it right there. Can't hear anything, guys. But what you're referring to is that

[B]

when you have, you know, lines of

[A]

vast amounts of oil pouring through your system, if for any reason that line is closed because you can't continue to put it into containers or ships, which has happened to them, they have no

[D]

ships because of the blockade. What happens is that line explodes from

[A]

within, both mechanically and in the earth. Something happens where it just explodes. And they say they only have about three days left before that happens. And when it explodes, you can never,

[C]

regardless, you can never rebuild it the way it was.

[D]

In other words, it will always be

[A]

if you rebuild it, it's hard to rebuild it all, but it would only be about 50% of what it is right now. So it's a very powerful thing that takes place sort of having to do with nature.

[B]

But when, when that gets clogged at

[A]

the end, in other words, when you have to turn it off because you

[B]

have no place to store this oil,

[A]

either put it on ships or storage tanks, which they are just about finished with, a very bad thing is going to happen.

[D]

So I think they're under pressure.

[A]

But Tom.

[D]

So Iran's under tremendous, just mechanical pressure. They need. I'm not going to comment on the explode because I don't, I have not found the explosion comment, but I have found all of the comments regarding storage. Right now you pump the oil out of the ground and you store it in these tanks and then the guess what? Empty tankers come up to Carg island, they hook up, they take your crude oil and they go to wherever they go and they refine it into aviation fuel, gasoline, jet fuel, you know, all the, all the kerosene, everything else that they, they need to make out of a barrel of oil. But right now, once you've got oil in motion, what I've been reading about, once the oil is in motion, that a sudden halt creates a problem where they have to restart the well and re pump the well. Because remember, like in the US we do fracking and stuff. And so there is mechanical things, Pat, that if they stop right now, number one, they're full. And it means they can't offload it to anybody, which also means that they're not selling as much of it per day. And we've already talked about the, what is that, $444 million a day or whatever it is. It's crazy. So he's right, is they're coming up against an infrastructure deadline where they have no place to put the oil. And if they shut down the pumps, they're hard to restart. And there is, there's certain damage that can be caused. And so they're, they're really up against it. They need all of these empty tankers to immediately get to Carg island so that they can be offloading this stuff that they're pumping into these, into these storage facilities.

[A]

Yeah, when you're reading this, it says experts have warned that Iran could be forced to shut down its oil fields as early as April 29 because the US naval blockade risking long term damage to its crude production. So that's because Tehran is effectively running out of storage space. Like we talked about earlier, both the Critical Threats project of the American Enterprise Institute and Energy Aspect uk, UK based field analyst firm estimates that Iran storage space will be up in the coming week, like now. And so if that's going on, Tom, the question becomes the following. Is this one of the reasons why the President is just kind of cool, calm and collected right now? Does he know that Iran is super desperate and they can't, you know, they have no leverage because, you know, Trump knows the cards and it doesn't seem like he's pushing that hard. He's just kind of like, yeah, okay, take your time. You don't want to talk to us, no problem. We also won't come down. What could Russia do right now to help them to extend a life? What could almost get a, to help Iran to have like a. Russia needs

[D]

to get in and say, buddy, you know, we're, we need to be working together for the next century and you're coming up against a very, very tough time. We got to figure this thing. You gotta figure this thing out. And I think that's why Trump is saying, we have all the cards. We've got five days. They've got five days. Our five days is we can wait. Their five days is a deadline. So if you think of it that way, our five days is patience. Their five days is a mechanical oil pumping deadline. What could Russia do? Russia could help. Russia could say, look, I know I haven't been really as cooperative with Trump as I could have been, and I got my own Ukraine war going on. But you guys, you need to figure this out, and you need to figure it out in a hurry, I think. Now, is Putin gonna call Trump and say, you know, Donald, you know, Mr. President, what do you want me to do? That's not gonna happen. But I think, you know, Russia could be an intermediary, not for the US but simply because they need Iran to be pumping. And Russia's other friend, China is probably whispering around saying, hey, somebody, we gotta figure this out. We gotta figure this out. We need all those empty tankers to be at Carg island to be pumping off right now. So I think it's Russia and China behind the scenes, Pat. They have to be. If you're dependent on Iran for oil the way China is, you got to be whispering right now. And supposedly what, Putin was going to Oman, right?

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Adam, your thoughts?

[C]

Well, if there's one thing we know about Trump is that he's ready to make a deal. That guy wants to make a deal. Whether it's a real estate deal, whether it's a peace deal, whether it's a weapons deal, whether it's a financial deal, he's ready to make a deal. He also said he's in no rush. Think about that. Everyone's trying to give him, like, you got to hurry up. You got to end this. He basically said, listen, we were in war in Afghanistan 20 years. We're in Iraq for almost a decade. Whatever it was, Vietnam was X amount of years. World War 3 goes, we've been doing this six weeks, guys. Pump the brakes a little bit. By the way, there was also another quote. He goes, nobody's telling me what to do. Nobody. I'm making the decisions. Whether you agree with them or not, that's on you, but it's on Trump. But you know what this reminds me of this whole Pakistan thing. Remember when we had the live event for the Reagan movie with Dennis Quaid, Right? Great movie, great actor, giving a shout out to Reagan here. They had a challenge when they were negotiating the nuclear peace deal with the US and the USSR of getting USSR to the table. And here's what we learned about the negotiation goes, just get them in the room. If they're not in the room, what are we negotiating? So right now, we're trying to get to the leaders of Iran, whoever they are, whoever it is. At this point, you said it's this guy, whatever his name is. Now, it's not the Supreme Leader. He's dead. The Supreme Leader's son.

[B]

I heard he's injured.

[C]

He's getting a facelift, apparently missing a leg. Okay, so they didn't even know who negotiated.

[D]

Negotiator Abbas Agarat.

[C]

Yeah, this guy, if I pronounce that right. So what happened was this is what. And this is what I think will make Trump so unique. You tell me if you guys agree. What Reagan did is when he got them in the room, he killed him with kindness. He did unreasonable hospitality, and they felt these guys were Cold War enemies. I would argue that Iran and us are actually worse enemies because we're actually fighting. US And USSR never fought, but they got him to the table, he killed him with kindness, and they worked out a deal. The whole thing with Iran, I think Jake Sullivan basically said when they were doing the nuclear deal, he goes, you know, they say, trust but verify. He goes, with Iran, don't trust and still verify. Bottom line is we Got to get them in the room. We have to figure out what they want. And Trump, if there's one person you trust in a room negotiating a deal, it's Trump or his liaison. And that's where I think this is going to go.

[A]

Vinny?

[B]

Yeah, I mean, dude, all the craziness, all the noise from the past two, three weeks, now it's like everything's just calm. Everything's like, chill now. Because now it's like the chess moves that are being made right now are, like, now it's like, real. Because think about it. These guys are traveling to. Where are they right now? They're in Russia. And all these guys. Where'd they just land?

[C]

I'm not sure.

[B]

Rob, where was that?

[A]

Yeah, he's in Russia now.

[B]

They're in Russia right now talking. And by the way, because, mind you, Russia's been. Have you heard any. I haven't heard Putin at all. I haven't heard anything from Xi Jinping. I've heard anything. We obviously know that they're doing stuff behind the scenes because they're so, you know, relying on. On Iran's oil. But I'm very, very interested to see what this week is going to be, a very, very telling week, Pat. I think this is going to be. This is going to be a week because what. What's that conversation like right now? What's the conversation like in Russia with Iran? You know what I mean? What are they talking about right now? So I'm very curious to see what the end of this week is going to look like with that.

[D]

What do you think it would be? I mean, what do you think is

[B]

saying to him, Tom, Think about that. But think about that. We're at war with them, us, Israel, Iran and the quiet people in the war. China and Russia haven't heard a peep. Now they're openly going to meet with them. And I think that conversation, like, listen, whatever the hell is going on, whatever you guys need to do you to make this happen fast. Because we need the oil. They need oil. This is all coming down to oil. Am I right, Tom?

[C]

Oil and weapons and money.

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[C]

Follow the money here.

[A]

Yeah, we'll see. Let me get to the next story.

[D]

Cars.

[A]

Okay, effective 2027, Rob, what page is the car? I think that's on 2027. 27, yeah. So this is a little weird. I want to actually get the audience's thoughts on this. So every new car could become a surveillance machine by 2027, and it may decide if you can drive. I mean, this is like. This is exactly what these movies, the surveillance movies talk about. Like, what you don't want it to be is what it's showing. So let's read this through. This isn't some distant concept or experimental feature that might come up in a few years. By 2027, every car sold in the US could be required to actively monitor the person behind the wheel. That means watching your eyes, tracking your behavior, and constantly evaluating whether you're alert enough to drive or not. For a lot of drivers, that starts to feel a lot less safe. And more surveillance. So the law that's quietly changing cars, tucked into a broader federal safety initiative, is a requirement for impaired driving detection technology in all new vehicles. The goal sounds simple enough. Reduce crashes caused by drunk or fatigued drivers. It's a problem that has been around for decades.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And to do that, automakers will need to install a system that monitors drivers in real time. Vinny, your thoughts on this?

[B]

Well, when's the last time we heard something like this? You guys remember after September 11th, they gave us the US the Patriot act, and they sold it as protection, Pat, like, stop terrorism, keep everybody safe. Next thing you know, they collected all of our data on everybody, every single American. They were like, well, guys, tur. The war on tour, that was Bush Jr. His favorite thing. But not now.

[C]

Terrible.

[B]

Same idea, different excuse. Then it. Back then it was terrorists. Now it's unsafe drivers. But the move is the same. More surveillance, more control. That's why people don't trust this. And I'm not a fan a fan of that. It sounds so good on paper. It's on nobody. I mean, you're a. You want drunk drivers on the road. But the part that people are waking up to this isn't just going to sit there quietly. It's collecting your data, a lot of it. And then once that data exists, it doesn't just disappear. It gets stored, it gets analyzed. It gets potentially shared. Remember, Tom, they're trying to do that predictive, like crime, pre crime. If you're going to do this, are you going to kill somebody? Like, and then they'll stop you. It's almost like a minority report. But insurance companies already want access to this kind of data. Obviously, regulators want more control. And now you have AI making judgment calls in real time. And I'm just not a fan of a pet. Like, who's to say, yeah, my eyes are kind of yawning or. I'm not even yawning, Pat. I have something in my eye or I'm squinting. Well, they're going to monitor me and shut my freaking car off. I'm not a fan of it at all.

[A]

Well, listen, a lot of Republicans voted for this. Anna Paulina Luna did not. She even tweeted about the saying, I'm not part of this. But some 55 Republicans voted for this. And some of them said the reason for it is the mad mothers against drunk drunk drivers. So this is a way for us to protect the kids. Tom, what do you like with this?

[C]

So not.

[D]

Well, I do not want to take the autonomy from the human that owns that vehicle. There is already things like Mercedes, Mercedes does a driver attention and it gives you a beep and it tells you you have to grab the steering wheel and it'll say like, are you dozing off? Take a break. So there's things in Mercedes that Mercedes has advertised broadly, even on the little basic Mercedes pat where they detect if you're like maybe getting fatigued and the car starts reacting, but a car doesn't drive for you. I want to know how they're going to underwrite this. We know insurance. So if the car has the ability to take over from me, if it thinks I'm in capacity and the car makes a mistake and has a collision with somebody who pays for that accident, does Ford pay for the accident? I would argue I wasn't driving. I didn't cause the accident. So let me tell you what closed the Strait of Hormuz. Lloyd's of London, you could argue that the first closure of the Strait of

[A]

Hormuz before everything insurance people, man, they're always those guys, careful for those guys.

[D]

So I don't, I don't want to see this, but I think there's also a worse thing happening. What people need to understand is what's about to happen is your car is about to become a subscription service. You know, there's, that's just kind of the direction where it's going. You're going to buy the car and then you pay for the advanced subscription for all these things. Like you buy an iPhone and then you get an app in app purchases. If you want to buy deluxe or all these other features, that's where the cars are going to be going. And that just like full self driving, you can pay a subscription to Tesla for that if your car is equipped. But I don't like this because it's unproven and I really, full self driving has to be fully in place and proven otherwise.

[A]

What, let me ask you this.

[D]

What do you do if a Car makes a mistake.

[A]

If they do this in 27, would you buy a 27 model or would you not buy it?

[D]

No. And by the way, things that the auto industry is already being shifty. Did you right now know that right now the auto industry is already testing, not letting you work on your own truck, on certain trucks. Ford did it. So what it is, is you go in to do things and you want to work on your own brakes. It doesn't let the system retract, so you can't change brake pads. You can go read about this. How the auto industry is trying to prevent DIYs from going down to AutoZone and picking up parts and working on their own vehicles.

[B]

You have to pay for it.

[D]

They want you to go to the dealer, spend three times DIYs like me refer to it as the stealer.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

They want to force you to go there. So there are things happening in the auto industry, Pat, that I am not in favor of. Safety things, you know, preemptive braking. I don't. I think these are good safety features. But now you're stepping over to take over for somebody I don't know.

[B]

And Tom, who's to say, let's just say, I don't know, a pandemic that comes out of a lab of somewhere that we own. Something happens like that, Tom, and the government taps in. Pan. They go, guys, we don't want anybody driving today. And they just shut off every single vehicle.

[A]

Good.

[D]

I'm.

[A]

Yeah, I will go back to stick shift. 1980s BMW two door.

[D]

Do you remember the movie the Kingsman?

[B]

Kingsman I saw.

[A]

Yeah, of course. Okay, great movie.

[D]

And Valentine. What? Samuel Jackson was Valentine, the bad guy. And he sold everybody the chip in their phones and then he caused the chips to go crazy. And there's this bizarre scene in the middle of it to the. To the song Freebird by Skynyrd because he caused all the chips to go crazy and impact all the people. That's exactly what you're talking about. You don't want at some point on some day, some havoc to break out.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Well, let the car guy explain what's going on here, guys.

[A]

Okay, go ahead.

[C]

The Uber guy. Well, I genuinely think that the way that we as Americans, or even humans for that matter, the way that we interact with cars is completely changing. Completely. And to me, it comes down to one of two things. Control versus freedom. So I remember. Remember when we had Jordan Peterson on this? Sort of. Might have been in like 2022.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

By the way, I don't Think he's doing well these days and giving him

[D]

a shout out control from the back seat.

[C]

So I remember asking him, what kind of car do you drive? And he goes, yeah, I got this old Mercedes I have. Top goes down, I do a thing. He goes, you know, when we won the Cold War, speaking of that again, he goes, because they saw what type of way we lived our lives. It was our jeans, it was our Ford Mustangs. And people in Russia said, we want that, we want freedom. You know, what did they have in the USSR was all control. In America, you're top down, driving on the highway, doing in this. You know, in California, it's all freedom. And basically all this is basically coming down to is they're taking away your freedom one little drip at a time. So libertarians are not going to be happy about anything like this. By the way. You see what they're doing with social credit scores in China, the central bank, digital currencies, the CBDCs. It's all about control. It's all about control. Driverless vehicles. What are we going to do with that? So I don't know. But do you know who should definitely qualify for this? I don't think the average person, you know, who should. 100%, you know who should. If you're driving a work vehicle, like if you're driving a truck on the highway, oh, we want you. I want recording the whole time. It's almost like police cameras, police body

[D]

cameras has dash cams on their trucks for insurance and.

[C]

Yeah, but you remember these stories like in California, some illegal immigrant is going,

[D]

how we know that the FedEx got. Did that terrible thing with so individuals.

[A]

I think, I think if, I think that's a good point. If they're like, by the way, it's like saying, right now I'm recording mono.

[C]

He's got your car. But Ubers, they're. They're recording.

[A]

I'm not with it, man. All I can tell you is. Look, man, I'm just going to whisper something. Rob, can you type in Mercedes Maybach SL680? Tom, have you seen this thing?

[B]

No.

[A]

SL680, Mercedes. Go to images. I've never ever thought I would be turned on by them. Not that one. Go to the second one. Right there. Look at that, Tom. Vinnie, do you see that? Like the Maybach 6SL 680 is that. I saw two of them in the last couple weeks. I don't know, man. I'm kind of like, don't be surprised if one of these guys appears.

[B]

You know what you Know, me and Humberto were looking at Alberto. What was the name of that Ford? The Mustang, Pat, I already have Ford. Did you see the one? What's a really expensive one, Rob? There's a Ford Mustang. Put a. It's called a. A dark horse. P. What do you think about this one? Look at the images. Look at. Look at this thing.

[C]

Damn.

[B]

Look at that. How bad?

[D]

Oh, it's like Batman. The dark.

[A]

You know how much that is? About 120 grand. Not that expensive, guys.

[C]

120.

[B]

I think that's actually a little bit less.

[A]

By the way. Gorgeous.

[B]

How sick is that with my truck?

[C]

Of all you guys.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

I know Dilly's gonna love that one. It's called the dark horse.

[D]

Actually, I think I saw one of those stuck in the wheel well on the back of your truck. I think you hit 1 on i95.

[B]

No, I might have.

[C]

Have all you guys.

[D]

Who's the biggest car guy stuck in the grill?

[A]

Our guy Tom.

[C]

Who's the biggest car guy here?

[A]

It's not even close.

[C]

Tom's a car guy.

[A]

It's not because he's an F1 guy. No, no. It's. None of us are as big of a car guy as Thomas. Thomas, number one.

[C]

Tom's 10 out of 10.

[A]

It's not even close.

[C]

What are you.

[A]

I'm probably second, but, like, out of

[C]

10, if I want.

[A]

I mean, you know, my reason would be I don't drive as much as I do anymore. So every time I think about buying a new car, I'm like, I'm not going to drive it anyway, so what the hell am I going to be doing? So part of it is kind of annoying.

[C]

You're a car. You're a truck guy now.

[A]

But can we have a moment? Like, I want to have a Bible study moment, if you don't mind.

[C]

Let's do it.

[A]

Rob, can you pull up that clip? Because to me, this was. This was known as the greatest moment of Bible study we had in America in 2026. I thought it was great. But the moment of pause. So here's Russell Brand. Who are our boys? Love this guy from forgetting Sarah Marshall. Oh, not the shirt. You know,

[B]

watch that. How many times.

[A]

Yeah, and then it's just. He sings. He. So. Yeah, exactly. So. But this is Piers Morgan asking a very innocent question, saying, is that the Bible you took to court?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I would have never guessed, by the way. This probably got hundreds of millions of views. Literally, it got hundreds of millions of views. So go ahead. Here's Piers Morgan and Russell Brandt.

[C]

Go ahead.

[A]

Rob, can I go back to asking

[B]

a question about your Bible? Yes, if you want to.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

That was that the one you took into call?

[D]

You're the very one.

[A]

Okay. What was your thinking of taking it into court and what you were seeing, looking at some passages. What were the relevant passages for you?

[D]

All right.

[B]

Thank you for asking.

[D]

Asking me.

[A]

Thank you. I didn't hurt.

[C]

I feel like it's like a movie scene. It was this from Isaiah. Isaiah.

[D]

You're right. Beer did say, you know, be chilled. I just didn't know you pronounced a chill man.

[B]

Creep. Piers is brilliant just.

[A]

And he looks into the camera.

[B]

It's this.

[A]

I don't like that. It had to be.

[B]

This has to be.

[A]

He's doing this on purpose.

[B]

This is from Isaiah. Isaiah or Johan. Why I call him John.

[C]

Johan.

[B]

Excuse me.

[A]

All right.

[B]

To walk away.

[A]

A part of me is. Is he trolling?

[B]

Trolling him?

[C]

You don't troll God.

[A]

Like, look at this.

[C]

Look at this.

[A]

Look at Pierce got. This is still going. It's a minute 20.

[C]

It has to be a joke.

[B]

Look at. Look at so much. Just let it. Let it simmer.

[C]

Says here the word that the verse

[D]

that I was looking at that day was

[B]

not this. I can't actually. I can't actually find the verse that I.

[A]

That I had that day.

[D]

But this is good enough.

[B]

This is from Isaiah 12.

[C]

Does he actually end up giving a quote? He reads Isaiah.

[A]

What do you think?

[C]

What was Isaiah?

[A]

I mean, listen, these are. Honestly, these are moments on tv. Everybody has. The longer you're on. If you're gonna cr. Create content and you're going to be on tv, it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen to you. No one's free from.

[B]

You know, Russell responded as a funny thing. He's like, I'm still looking for it. If you go to his Instagram, Rob, is that it? I think, yeah. This is actually funny. He goes.

[A]

This is him.

[B]

Yeah. On the bottom right. Watch.

[D]

Passage actually from Isaiah.

[A]

From Piers Morgan.

[C]

Wait for it.

[A]

Wait for it. Look, it was marked all along. This is it.

[B]

So everyone, I was on Piers Morgan the other day. I was looking for it. I thought I should find the actual right passage, the exact one that I was looking at.

[A]

Pause it.

[B]

Listen. Okay, I don't. I think it was real. He was. He was lost in the sauce. By the way, the Bible, unless you have something like pointing out Pat written like court something.

[C]

It's a.

[B]

It's so many books. It's so many, you know, different Verses, I mean, you would think somebody would memorize it. But that aside, I mean, I still respect that he's, you know, before podcast, he's praying, he's changed his life. He's, you know, he's trying to be a better person. I mean, what he said about the, you know, 16 year old and 30 year old with the, what was it, Rob, that he said? You know, it was consent or he was living a different life. I don't agree with that one at all. But he's trying. There was a, there was, he was on.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Megan Kelly clip.

[B]

The Megan Kelly clip with that. Like that kind of threw me.

[A]

You have that, Rob?

[C]

I do.

[D]

Hang on.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Can you play? Yeah. And why are you looking at that? Because you know where I stand. Anybody that's trying to be better, anybody that's in the book, anybody that's trying, I, I commend them and I pray for them because he is, I don't think he's a fake. He's not being a fake Christian. He's actually, I could see the Holy Spirit in him, but like, you know, go ahead. Rob still messed up.

[D]

And in the United Kingdom where I'm

[B]

from, the age of consent is 16.

[D]

And I did sleep with a 16

[B]

year old when I was 30.

[D]

But when I was 30, I was a very different person.

[B]

I was a lot younger and I

[D]

was an immature 30 year old.

[B]

Consensual sex, actually with a variety of people. When there is a strong power differential as there is when you're a famous

[C]

man that has the ability to attract

[A]

women that I had at that time,

[B]

you go, I think involves exploitation. I think it is exploitative, impossible. And again, a coming clean, saying it, being honest about it, I'm all for that. Number two, the thing itself, it's not illegal there, but just as a man, I don't think at 30 years old I was ever thinking about anything with a 16 year old. That's just me personally, Tom.

[D]

So every now and then God shows up. And I think that sometimes celebrities have to be very careful when they put the Christian faith, or any faith for that matter out and somebody who's knowledgeable asks you a question. I think Russell Brand right there in that clip with Megan was trying to not, you know, I think he was trying to explain the situation. He was saying, hey, I don't think what I did was right. I don't think it was there. Al Gore was asked Pat while they were, he was trying to show that he's so in with the Christians. He was asked, and we can find it somewhere, what his favorite, one of, one of his most notable or favorite verses is. And he said, show it to me, Rob. John 16:3. He scrambled John 3:16. He meant to say John 3:16 because he sees that on T shirts. He said John 16:3 and John 16:3 is they will do such things because they have not known the father or me. Al Gore did it.

[B]

Wow.

[D]

And it was like everybody blew up for a week because it was like stupid punk.

[A]

It's like. But look, Tom, is that great?

[D]

It's like, by the way, it's not just Al Gore, anybody that tries to come.

[A]

They asked the president, try to look. Did you see when they asked the president what he said about scripture? Have you ever seen that?

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

And by the way, this is 90% of people, maybe even more, when you ask him, what's your favorite scripture? You know, some will say, you know, my favorite scripture is never ever give up. That's Churchill. While it's somewhere in the Bible, it's great.

[D]

Never, never, never.

[A]

Yeah, but Adam, your thoughts? Because I know you're very close to this.

[C]

Of course. Well, listen, I don't know anybody other than Russell Brand that's basically caused a frenzy on Piers Morgan that maybe he didn't over deliver. I don't know anybody that would fall into that category. So shout out to you and congratulations, Russell Brand for going back in your Bible and founding Isaiah. Wait, wait, I just thought. Tom, stop it. But listen. Shout out to him for showing up. Shout out to him for basically owning what he's done. I guess technically, legally speaking, what he did when he was 30 with a 16 year old is legal. But from a moral perspective, that's completely disgusting. 16 years old. You're 30. Unbelievable. Although there's I think 35 states in America where 16 is legal. It's a weird loophole, but I will give him credit.

[D]

Number.

[C]

I will give him credit. Tom, why do you keep talking when I'm talking? What is your deal, buddy? One thing was it, I'll stop talking. Go ahead, answer for me.

[D]

I said it's habit and tradition. I like that.

[A]

Habit and tradition.

[C]

Okay. Anyway, speaking of creepy people. Thank you, Tom. What we're solving for. I guess what Russell Brand is doing is for progress, not perfection that you always talk about. Right? But listen, Russell, I get it, you're creepy. I'm surrounded by creepy people. Sometimes just do better. Right, Tom?

[A]

Yeah, that was awkward. But okay. All right, so let's go to the last one here. All Trevor Bauer Throws a no hitter for who? The Long Island Ducks. Nice in just second US start since 2021. This is him. Go ahead, Rob.

[C]

Long Island Ducks Bowers two two.

[B]

Fastball taken on the outside corner. Strike three called. It's a no hitter for Trevor Bauer,

[D]

the third no hitter in Long Island Ducks history.

[C]

And the 10 year major league veteran gets it done here in Lancaster as Long island wins it 13 to nothing.

[A]

Here's what I was 13 behind a seven inning shutout. I'm going to make a crazy bold prediction is what I'd like to see happen is I'm talking as a fan, not as a minority owner. The Yankees. So don't take this these two and confuse the two. I, I'd like to see see him before the end of the year be a Yankee and I wouldn't be surprised if it happens.

[B]

Oh I love that.

[A]

I wouldn't be surprised if it happens because I think we learned from this other team who used to be in the city called Brooklyn, who they couldn't handle it in Brooklyn. There was too much pressure. Trolley Dodger and they moved to the city called la.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

The worst, you know, you know which was all fans in the world. The Los Angeles. They dodge a lot of things.

[B]

They dodge a lot of, a lot of things. First it was trolleys and now it's just.

[C]

They don't want.

[A]

So they dodge Brooklyn and then they go and they move to la.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And they're fans. Which by the way this year for some of you guys that would like to go to the Yankees Dodgers game with us, go to betdavid.com and fill out your information. I think we got, we, we have three suites at one of the games that we go to and we're going to spend a lot of time together, dinner conversation, strategy session. But go to bethdavid.com fill out the information, somebody will get a hold of you. Is there even a phone number there, Rob? I think we have a phone number for people to call to get. Go all the way to the bottom. Go all the way to the bottom. Go all the way to the. Is there a phone number? There should be a phone number anyways. Maybe go to vaultconference.com there may be a phone number because we do have a phone number for them to call. But I think that you know, we learned from the Dodgers how important pitching is. We learned last year. Yeah. If you want to learn more about joining us at the Yankees, call 5618-2181-3056-1821-1813, 0. So pitching is it. And the Yankees, you know, if this season ends up being a full season, because we know the collective bargaining agreement, we know that could be a strike. The basement's nasty right now of what could happen. But if it's a full season and Bauer comes in his opening day, he's pitching. If we got nothing going on, we're flying out to go see him pitching opening day. Okay. When he won the Cy Young, what did he call it? The Mickey Mouse Award.

[D]

Mickey Mouse, Cy Young. He came out and he sat on a kind of a lawn chair just sitting out there, just at Cincinnati, I believe it was. And he said, that's Mickey Mouse. Cy Young.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And boy, that and other things caused baseball to get upset with him. But this guy is one of the best. You know, I'll tell you, he should not only be in baseball as a pitcher, Pat, he will be probably one of the best pitching strategists and pitching technicians in history if they let him become a pitching coach. Because his knowledge of just mechanics, grip

[A]

and orientation, the velocity, He's a genius. He is a genius.

[B]

And look what he's been. But look at what this. The girl that tried to literally destroy his life come to find out that it was all nonsense.

[D]

Pasadena da or Lada, whatever. Similar to the. Similar to the Duke da.

[B]

All bs. And you want to talk about never giving up and fighting and like, going to the leagues, getting wherever. Where was he? He was in another. Was he in Mexico playing or.

[D]

At some point he won a World Series.

[B]

He won a World Series. And look at this cat coming back. Good for him.

[A]

I want to see him.

[B]

Good for him.

[C]

By the way, I could care less about the pitching. I know that that's your focus. The. The real story to me is this guy lost how many hundreds of millions

[A]

of dollars to $300 million.

[C]

Okay. Accused.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Was never found guilty. The whole believe all women thing.

[D]

No. Exonerating.

[C]

Stop it.

[D]

Exonerating.

[C]

Thank you, Tom. I wouldn't have been able to communicate a sentence without your brain. The point is this. He's been. He's been. His. His reputation has been through the mud. He's completely been thrown out of baseball, but he still keeps going. And by the way, was there any accountability for the women that wrongfully accused.

[B]

Oh, the girl that I think it was.

[C]

To me, there's a bigger story here than baseball. It's that there's going to be things that come into your life. They're going to basically ruin your entire existence. And do you. And do you fall down 10 times. I get up 11 or stay down. So I give him a major shout out.

[A]

We're going to follow the story very closely. And the day he plays, if it's the Yankees, we're going to go to the game. The day he plays, if it's the Yankees, it'll be a great story.

[B]

I don't care if I'm getting my height surgery that I'm trying to get to make myself.

[A]

I don't want to say that.

[B]

What the hell are you laughing at, Rob?

[A]

Announce it publicly if that hat one

[B]

even if they're like, hey, it's on that day, I'm going to.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, okay.

[C]

Congratulations.

[A]

I gotta jump on a quick flight and I'll be back this afternoon, but tomorrow, Rob, do we have anything tomorrow or no?

[D]

We do.

[A]

We do. Do I know it or no, we

[D]

recorded it during a backgammon.

[A]

Oh, shoot. That's right. Armand. Ufc. Armand Sarukian. That goes out tomorrow. That's gonna be sick. The guy's funny. I like guy's funny, like, you know. And it's the fight everybody wants to see and how to Poria against Toporia. Anyways, gang, do your thing. We will see you tomorrow and then again on Wednesday. Business, business Wednesdays. Take care, everybody. God bless. Bye bye, bye, bye.