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Patrick Bet-David
Did you ever think you were made again? I feel I'm supposed.
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Adam Sosnick
I know this.
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Patrick Bet-David
Life meant for me why would you bet on Goliath when we got bet David Valuetainment giving values contagious this world of entrepreneurs we get no value to haters how they run, homie look what.
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Tom Ellsworth
I become I'm the one.
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Patrick Bet-David
All right, so look, it's Thanksgiving today. Let me start off with some disturbing news before you start your evening. Did you know one in four people still carry weight from holiday last year? Did you know this is the busiest Thanksgiving ever for travel with more than 18 million Americans taken to the skies? And if you were at the airport yesterday, let us know how ugly airports were and travel was. And did you know Americans will throw out 316 million pounds of food on Thanksgiving? And here's how it fuels ready for this climate change, folks. You throwing food away, you're messing with the climate. It's telling you the people in Antarctica are not happy with you in Alaska, you better watch out. And they also say statistics that giving thanks can make you happier and healthier. And we want to give you a thank you for being with us on Thanksgiving morning. Woke up this morning going for a walk and I see Dylan in the back practice. And I come in, drive up to the office, doing a bunch of Manex this morning, having conversations. And then I come in thinking we have maybe a handful of stories to cover. And then Rob drops 50 stories on me here right now that we've been preparing. Let me go through some of these stories which are kind of fun. Mark Zuckerberg, this guy who's worth a lot of money and kind of a big deal, who runs Facebook, who wrote a letter, open letter to honorable Chairman Jim Jordan a few months ago, was with Trump yesterday at Mar A Lago. I don't know what they were doing. Maybe he was showing them how to use Instagram better. Maybe it's the algorithms, maybe it's Facebook, maybe it's how to post better edited videos. I don't know. But something tells me was more than that. We will talk about that. To tariffs. All these folks from Mexico, president coming out talking shit. We're not going to do this, we're not going to do that. And then Trump makes the call. Well, we had a very good call together and it's going to be fantastic. Justin Trudeau. They can't make us do anything, man. Well, yeah, it was actually. It's actually going to be very interesting working together. It's going to be great. We're going to Play some of those clips for you. Trump demands apology from New York Times and we'll tell you why that is. Very interesting story there. Trump transition News Live updates. Justin Trudeau, President elect. Good talk. We'll play that clip. Tom, got something to respond to that DNC official says Harris took no responsibility for blowing billions during campaign donor call. This person says they were stunned. And by the way, imagine if you gave her millions of dollars and she failed with all the money you gave her. You believed in her. Then it's the last meeting. It's the donor meeting to come and say thank you to all the people that gave you the money and you don't show up. Like, tell me who does such a thing, right? No show. Nothing at all. And yet on some list, she's at the top of the list of candidates for 2028. And there's a person here that's aspiring to run in 2028 that something happened yesterday which Jason Miller shared and Tom brought it up to our attention. He Hillary Clinton looks like she's planning for another one for 2020. That's exciting stuff, folks. Very exciting stuff. Then Kamala Harris, you know, gives a message on video. Megan McCain said, I don't understand why anyone on her team would even allow this video to be released. We're going to show it to you. It's extremely disturbing, entertaining. We can use a handful of different words like that in it, but you have to see it to believe that it's not a spoof. Nowadays, you have to think it's a deep fake. This is not a deep fake. Right? This is when their campaign has to come out and say this is a deep fake because it's that bad after you see it. Another clip. I saw this guy on CNN uses the phrase dear. Okay. Dear. He uses the phrase dear. And you should see what they do. I think his name is Leon. We'll show the clip that you can't call a woman dear nowadays. And I posted a tweet and a commentary. Super entertaining. Newsom proposes electric vehicle tax rebate plan. And, and you have to see which company he is not wanting to support. And somebody asked him, well, you got 20, 26, 000 employees here that they employ. I'll just let you see the clip for yourself and tell me if it makes any sense. Tom's got a bunch of stuff. He's going to be responding to that. And then a poll comes out revealing who the Democrats and Republicans want to see run in 2028. Very interesting. Fired CBS reporter reveals that her boss has blocked her Elon Musk interview. Why would you block an Elon Musk interview? We'll share that Israel approves a two month ceasefire with Hezbollah ex Google CEO Eric Schmidt the last time he said something that went viral. Here's another one for you. He warns the perfect AI girlfriend could worsen loneliness for young men. We will talk about that. The new FHA raises conforming loans limit to 800-6-800-6000 and bunch of different numbers on real estate will share Baker Mayfield's father. He's soon his father. Can you imagine? He claims his dad stole $12 million from him. Dad stole $12 million from him. Yeah, his dad stole this. Kind of like that comedian that his brother stole. Yeah.
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Vinny
25 million. 20 million.
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Patrick Bet-David
Whatever the number was. Yes. Wicked interview sparks confusion over holding space. Folks, this video, I almost don't want to share it with you because I want you to have a happy Thanksgiving. This may disturb you a little bit when you see this strange video interview. I've never seen anything like this in my life before. Sharon Stone is not happy. I remember when her and I spoke about Florida, she was not a fan of Florida. We'll talk about why Sharon's not happy. And then we got a bunch of other things you need to know about pharmacies. What's open today? If something happens, we'll cover that. We'll cover. Elon asking if the IRS should be deleted after agency begs for $20 billion. He asks on Twitter. And then him and Vivek toy with eliminating daylight savings time. I'm curious who on this panel is with that and who's not with it. And then Kamala Harris apparently didn't go on the Joe Rogan podcast because Trump sat down with him. And because of that, he didn't want to. She didn't want to go on it, which is kind of very weird to think about. And then Kamala Harris calls. Like Kevin Ulrich calls that Kamala. And a few other things here to share with you. But anyways, hey, today is Thursday. It's Thanksgiving. Tomorrow is Black Friday. And the reason why they call it Black Friday is because that is the first day that a lot of the retailers go into profit mode. So whatever else they make the rest of the year, hey, the name is Black Friday. Let me tell you what my code's been every year for Black Friday. Many, many years ago, it was about lining up outside of Walmart or Best Buy or Costco, I'm going to get the big TV for 50% discount. Nowadays, it's Amazon and all this other stuff, and you splurge and you splurge and you splurge and nothing about you improved. And it's the same old, same old. Here's what we're doing for Black Friday, folks. First of all, we have a massive Black Friday sale that's going to be 50% off. There's a whole setup, 50% off hats, shirts. We have this notebook here, the valuetainment notebook that's got the multiple different charts that we use at the Vault conference. For some of you guys that are business owners, this is a perfect notebook for you. 50 discount shirts, gears. You'll see all these things, wallets, Angry Patriot stickers, even the SLS leadership event that if you attended it, it's $5,000 a ticket to $30,000 held at Mar a Lago. The recording is selling for a thousand. Today's discount of 497 if you go all the way to the top. Rob. We have a bundle with all the different courses combined together. It's a price point of 12,688 when you buy it independently for the entire entire weekend, whether you want to improve your sales, how to be a better public speaker, how to create content that goes viral, how to have strategies to scale your business. The Vault recording, the advanced business strategy, business planning workshop, all of it that people, if they wanted to buy a ticket, they could spend 20, $30,000 for the ticket exclusive recording. This is going to be around 30 hours of recording for 9.97 only. Again, represent the brands you believe in. Take advantage of the brands that you want to support. I'm going around right now seeing valuetainment gear all over the place. Future looks bright. Usa, Angry Patriot everywhere, which is phenomenal to see if you got big plans for 2025, find a way to recreate yourself. And if you represent PBD Podcast, valuetainment, how we process issues, what we do here. We're given a 50% discount on items purely this weekend. And by the way, I'm telling you this, anybody that places an order over $500, you're probably going to get a FaceTime call from me. So me, Adam, Vinny, we may do a surprise FaceTime call tonight during Thanksgiving and talk to you and have a conversation with you, but the order needs to be 500 or more. You'll get some surprise FaceTime calls from us. Having said that, go to VT merch.com place the order before these things sell out, because they will this weekend. All right, let's get right into it now. We Started off with some updates here. Thanksgiving, what it's looking like. I want to get some of my English down because sometimes, you know, every year I want to improve my English. The words I use. English is my fifth language. I'm watching the CNN interview and I'm getting confused folk, folks on what nowadays is considered sexist. What's not? Rob, if you don't mind, just go to Twitter because I want to show the exchange on Twitter where I'm also showing the response. So this guy is on cnn, okay? And he calls this lady dear. And you should see the reaction. I think the host name. I try to look her up. Her name. Her name is Abby Phillips or Abby Phillips. We'll look her up right now to see what it is. Just watch this and you tell me if you're offended by this phrase, dear. Rob, if you can also after this is up, run a poll. I want to know. I want to get better with my English. Go ahead and play this clip, Rob. Go for it. Audio. Rob, we can't hear anything unless if I'm deaf. Go back up a little bit, please. Yeah, good. Investigation began. Rob, it's so low. What's the story there? Rob, the bottom line is the deal.
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Tom Ellsworth
It might be on the guys in the back.
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Patrick Bet-David
Guys, can you guys raise the audio on the video? Go ahead and play it again.
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Adam Sosnick
Run it back, guys. Run it back.
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Patrick Bet-David
Let's see what's going to happen here. Just try to do your best to hear it.
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Tom Ellsworth
The DOJ said there's nothing there.
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Rob
They said they didn't have enough to indict.
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Patrick Bet-David
That shouldn't be the charge, Dear.
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Vinny
Misogyny.
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Patrick Bet-David
I'm just going to stop it right here.
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Rob
We're not going to get off on a wrong foot. Please do not address a grown woman as dear.
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Patrick Bet-David
Do not do that at my table. Pause it right there. Do me a favor. Go to the comment section. Go to the comment section. So I asked a question, right? I asked the question. I said, go to the top, Rob, when I said, is this a joke? Since when does calling someone dear considered sexist? This is exactly why CNN keeps losing common sense. Viewers go a little lower. A lady responds and she says, since at least the early 2000s, she says. And I respond back, respectfully, thanks, dear. And then she responds back again, Rob, you have to show this show replies. And she responds back, and she says, you can be sexist all you like and I'm a housewife. You have to do too much more than to ruffle my feathers. If that was your true intent of Course, then I said, dear Jenna, I have tremendous respects for housewives. It's a tough job, and I applaud you for it. Respectfully, pbd. I mean, what other way do you respond back in an email? Hey, dear Vinnie. Dear I love you. I respect you. Tom, your English year is better than everybody else. You dropped some big words. Sometimes I'd say, second, is Adam.
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Vinny
Your vernacular. Amazing.
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Patrick Bet-David
Yes. When did the phrase dear become disrespectful?
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Tom Ellsworth
It didn't, and it never has. It's people that choose to find new ways to say I'm offended as a means to control dialogue and to push people into corners. That's all that's going on. She knew he was not being condescending. That was a fairly civil discourse. They were getting into it a little bit. They weren't yelling. They weren't interrupting. Not yet. And the guy just goes, okay, dear. You know, and he was not, like, getting it. It's not. It's not condescending. You have emails from. I get emails unsolicited from people I don't know. Dear Tom, you know, you send an email to someone that you respond to, you know, on. You know, somebody's getting upset on manect. And I'll respond to them on text and say, dear Jane, dear Fred. You know, it's a common thing. It's almost like saying hi and hello, and it's like a salutation. It's a friendly salut. Now, was he using it perfectly that way? Probably not. But it's not negative. It's not negative. They're choosing to be offended. Now, if she wants somebody to rev up, you know, and he wants to turn to her and just really heat it up and say, oh, go knock it off, bitch. You know, is that what she wants?
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Vinny
That's. That's something for her.
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Tom Ellsworth
Is that what she wants? Is that what they want? They want to do. They really want to get down.
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Adam Sosnick
Okay, but I think she's trying to get down.
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Tom Ellsworth
I think she's pretending to be offended, finding new ways to be offended. That's what the pronouns is all about. You're not addressing me by my pronouns. You're offending me. It's all this feigned offense.
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Patrick Bet-David
I mean, but. But the thing is, this lady Abby. Rob, can you pull up? Let's see who this Abby Phillips person is.
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Vinny
She's a new angry person.
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Patrick Bet-David
Can you go to Abby? Let's see your background. Okay. What school did she go to?
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Vinny
Harvard.
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Patrick Bet-David
Previously. That political. Covering the Obama White House, Washington pole, national. Okay. And ABC News. Okay, then that makes sense. That's her background. She's known no other Afro Trinidian. Man. She may be offended by that because it says Trina. Daddy. Daddy. So isn't that like offensive like Daddy. Ian, maybe she's.
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Tom Ellsworth
Hang on.
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Patrick Bet-David
But by the way, Trinidadian.
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Tom Ellsworth
That means trisexual.
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Patrick Bet-David
No, no.
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Tom Ellsworth
Like she'll try anything.
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Patrick Bet-David
No, no, I'm actually making a serious comment here. Trinidadian. That's an Armenian Last Armenian.
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Tom Ellsworth
Well, it's like saying Americans. She's from Trinidad.
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Patrick Bet-David
Is that what that means, though? Afro Trinidad.
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Vinny
She's not armed, Trini.
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Adam Sosnick
She's Trinidad Trinidad.
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Tom Ellsworth
And she adds Armenian to the end of it.
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Patrick Bet-David
Guys, you have to put the possibility that she may be half Afro, half Armenian, because that's Ian. I a N. She could be Armenian from Iran. If it's Y a N, it's. It's from Yerevan.
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Vinny
I didn't even see that.
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Patrick Bet-David
But again, that could be my bad.
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Tom Ellsworth
Her family lived in.
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Patrick Bet-David
What is it?
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Tom Ellsworth
Trinidad and Tobacco. Tobago.
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Patrick Bet-David
Yeah. So that's. Nice place. Okay, let's keep going.
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Tom Ellsworth
Let's go with tobacco.
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Patrick Bet-David
And then what school does she go to? She wants to Harvard. Oh, she went.
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Vinny
What do you think?
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Patrick Bet-David
Okay. G. Government originally intend to study grab. Can you just.
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Tom Ellsworth
She was studying pre med. She couldn't take the chemistry. So she said, I'm going to get a BA in government.
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Patrick Bet-David
Can you control F. And just see if the word dear is used anywhere here.
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Tom Ellsworth
It's not.
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Patrick Bet-David
It's not. Well, then maybe she's right. Because Dear Abby. Dear Abby. Right. Doesn't remember Dear Abby.
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Vinny
That it was the news thing, right? Where you write in all these articles.
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Patrick Bet-David
Like, if there's anybody that should be for dear is Abby, it's her. Dear Abby. Half Afro, half Armenian. Like this.
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Tom Ellsworth
This is like.
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Vinny
Right now. Like, is he serious? Is she from Y? Where is she?
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Adam Sosnick
That's so I've got a lot of Trinity friends. So.
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Tom Ellsworth
Okay, this next part is brought to you by DraftKings.
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Patrick Bet-David
How about the open when her careers Armenian. There's I A N, there's Y A. Even if the chance is less than 5%.
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Vinny
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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Patrick Bet-David
Abby. And then Dear Abby. So, Dear Abby, we were confused why you're offended by the phrase dear. So Adam, we'll go to you before we go to the next story. Go for it.
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Adam Sosnick
So I actually was having dinner last night, by the way. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.
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Patrick Bet-David
Thank you, dear. And then what you, dear.
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Tom Ellsworth
Thank you, dear.
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Adam Sosnick
With a lovely lady friend of mine. And I said this.
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Tom Ellsworth
This woman Here we go back to girl.
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Vinny
She's lovely.
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Patrick Bet-David
Like, listen, you could have said all of that.
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Vinny
You could have just said, I went to dinner. You have to get soft voice. You have to get sexy. Just get with the story, bro.
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Adam Sosnick
You see what I'm dealing with?
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Patrick Bet-David
You guys make your point.
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Adam Sosnick
So I was having dinner with my boyfriend last night. Was that what you.
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Vinny
Want?
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Adam Sosnick
The girl, like, I'm telling a story.
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Vinny
Gentlemen, tell us.
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Patrick Bet-David
Tell us what happened with that.
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Adam Sosnick
I'm having a conversation with this beautiful lady. And I said, and this woman is a massive Trump fan. Armenian, Not Armenian American, half Venezuelan, maybe Trinidadian, I don't know. And all of a sudden, she turned Trinidadian. So the point is, I'm establishing the fact that she doesn't get offended easily. She's pro Trump. And I said, watch this clip. What do you think? She said, I'm a little offended. I said, what do you mean? She said, if you. It's all about the tone. If you say, listen, dear, can I help you out here? Zero problem. But if you say, excuse me, dear, I'd be a little offended. I said, okay, so maybe it'd be the equivalent of if I go, hey, listen, bro, can you pass me that? Or, hey, bro, If I'm like, listen, bro, maybe you'd be a little offended. So do I think he was being misogynist, chauvinistic, sexist? 0%. Do I think they were offended? Easily? 100%. Do I think he was being a little bombastic?
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Patrick Bet-David
Yeah, I think that was more bombastic. I think the more important question is, are you guys going to go on a second date?
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Vinny
That's the real question.
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Adam Sosnick
Because this is more than a second date, but I think this is actually great for ratings.
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Tom Ellsworth
Was she really offended and upset?
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Adam Sosnick
This was the. This was the best.
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Patrick Bet-David
I want you to wear a marriage Christmas app.
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Tom Ellsworth
That's right.
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Patrick Bet-David
And ask, excuse me, dear, is this offensive?
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Tom Ellsworth
I mean, let us know what you do.
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Patrick Bet-David
I mean, Merry Christmas. Here's right. And then just go on a date with her.
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Tom Ellsworth
If was she upset, did it, like, go downhill, like, into a deeper conversation?
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Adam Sosnick
Believe me, it definitely didn't go downhill.
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Tom Ellsworth
Because you never know with you. You may upset her, and then you're walking out front, you toss the condoms of the valet and say, I don't need these condoms.
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Adam Sosnick
Come on, what's wrong with you tomorrow? What am I, a sailor? But if you're that guy, you need a clap back, dude. He sat there as if he was getting lectured by Abby. Oh, my God.
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Vinny
Well, he knows that. He'll never be like.
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Adam Sosnick
I'd be like, listen, I told her what I needed to tell her. And you shut your mouth also, dear. That's what I would have done. Boom ratings. If that was that. If that guy was actually legit, he would have clapped back.
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Patrick Bet-David
Good guy. By the way, he's been a Trump advisor since 2016. That's why this is not a regular guy. However, listen. No, no listen.
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Adam Sosnick
Saying is listen.
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Patrick Bet-David
First of all, first of all, first of all, the point is this, okay? The power of that is the fear of not being invited back, okay? The fear of not being invited back by cnn. The part about Scott Jennings that makes him a star right now is what he claps, by the way, the guy that Dear Abby Phillips said, hey, don't say anything about. Because he said, what? The whole thing with common sense, with men competing in a female. Women's sports. And it's like, don't you. I don't want you to say anything about the elders. And he goes like, I don't remember that one clip. And it's like, well, please, you have to respect his position. He said, well, I know I'm being attacked here. At least he said that I'm being attacked. So you're defending a position. And he came back and he kept attacking him nonstop. Him. Scott Jennings. I think if our brother here, who's a Trump advisor, watching.
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Vinny
Do you walk off the set, Pat? Do you?
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Patrick Bet-David
If that happens, I ask you to. I want you to ask me to leave, okay? I want you to be uncomfortable. What do you mean, walk off the set? You gotta stop the interview and gotta be like, I'm sorry. Excuse me. I'm gonna keep saying Dear Abby, please. Yeah, good. That's what I'm saying, sweetheart. Honey, honey, baby. What else, Pumpkin? Where do you want me to go with this thing? Yeah, okay. Where do you want me to go? You want Pumpkin, Honey? Pumpkin. All this stuff. We used to have one person in our office that every time she would, by the way, this is me. I'm a literal guy. And she would say, pumpkin to you. I'm from freaking Middle East. We don't do Halloween. I'm like, you call me pumpkin one more time, I swear to God. Right? You can call me Patrick, Pat. That's it. Yeah, Pumpkin, cross the line.
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Vinny
That's a ridiculous.
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Patrick Bet-David
That's a ridiculous. Because that's like. That's derogatory. Yeah.
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Vinny
Hey, apple pie.
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Patrick Bet-David
Anyways, but look, I don't want to get pissed off right now. I want to get to the next story. Guys, let's Go to the next story. Whatever. This is a little frustrating, but let's go to a more sir. Let's go to a little bit more of a good, like, good vibe type of a video where, you know, it is Thanksgiving. People are going to have some drinks tonight. A lot of people. They are. I know, Vinnie, you're not, you know, but some people are going to have some alcohol. They're going to spend time with Jack. Jim Rob already knew. He went to talking about having a drink and starting early. Here is former presidential candidate Kamala in Hawaii. This is not a deep fake, folks. I will tell you if your kids are watching this. Earmuffs, have them close their eyes. They should not watch this. This is not good for kids. It's just as bad as watching a love scene in a, in a movie and it completely shocks you. So pump the brakes, close your eyes. But for adults, brace for impact. Go ahead. Here's. Here's dear Kamala. Go ahead.
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Rob
I just have to remind you, don't.
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Vinny
You ever let anybody take your power from you.
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Patrick Bet-David
I won't do it.
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Vinny
Oh, my God.
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Patrick Bet-David
You have the same power that you did before November. I appreciate you.
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Vinny
And you have the same purpose.
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Patrick Bet-David
Yes.
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Rob
That you did.
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Vinny
And you have the same boobs ability.
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Rob
To engage and inspire.
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Vinny
Her neck is 30 years older than.
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Patrick Bet-David
Don't ever let anybody or any circumstance.
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Rob
Take your power from you.
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Patrick Bet-David
You know, what she's trying to say is don't let anybody take your drink away from you. That's what she really wanted to say.
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Tom Ellsworth
We should do that. Let's dub it. Every time she says power, let's put.
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Patrick Bet-David
Body.
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Vinny
For one second, guys. Can we just for one second, after seeing something like this, the state of the union, okay? The sitting president has no idea where he is. He's 1000% has dementia. He's been on vacation more than anything president in the history of the United States. The vice president who hasn't done anything, Tom, for four years. The border czar went to the border one time because she had to, is off of a vacation after spending $1.5 billion in three months and is coming in. Clearly, she's drunk or hungover. Meanwhile, and this is why people wonder why we are in the state that we are. Meanwhile, Jake Sullivan and Anthony Blinken are literally pushing us into a war. These are. We have no president. The vice president is freaking tipsy and hungover. And that's why Tom, and Tom, I want to know your opinion. That's why the importance of Trump coming in and showing that like these Nobody's in charge. Nobody's running the country right now. And that's why the awakening, the Donald Trump awakening, is one of the most important things I think, in the history of politics.
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Tom Ellsworth
Well, part of what you talked about is lunacy. Not you're not lunacy, but it's lunacy itself. And the other part of it is serious as hell.
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Patrick Bet-David
Yes.
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Tom Ellsworth
And the part that's serious as hell is someone is calling the shots. Someone was green lighting the use of missiles being shot into Russia. And on one side. And on the other side, we've got a missing president who hasn't been seen in public. And he took a little walk in the rainforest. It was such a joke. And it was memed to death that he hasn't been seen even doing announcements for charity. Nothing. Nothing. Just parading him out to say, hey, we're going to be with the Boys and Girls Club this Christmas. And with toys for tots, they could prop him up and have him say something like that. This season, nothing from the president. And meanwhile, now you've got the vice president, after a failed campaign, heading off to Hawaii. And you know what? I need a new shirt.
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Patrick Bet-David
I am.
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Tom Ellsworth
I have always supported Mad Mothers Against Drunk Drivers. Seriously. I have supported MAD for good reasons, but now I think there needs to be a branch of it. Mothers Against Drunk Democrats. And because we need to stop her.
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Vinny
Yeah.
- [24:32]
Patrick Bet-David
Bad. My.
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Tom Ellsworth
That's. That's my feeling of it. Very serious side to what you're saying. And there's a very. Just lunacy that we, as Americans. Accounting.
- [24:40]
Patrick Bet-David
Can you go to Megan Mc.
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Tom Ellsworth
Twitter account for the inauguration?
- [24:43]
Patrick Bet-David
Go to Megan McCain's Twitter account. If you go to Megan McCain, she. She just tweeted this. And if you go a little lower, Keep going lower, lower, lower, lower. Right there. Zoom in a little bit. She says, take this down. She's still the sitting vice president, for God's sake. This is awful. Like, really, really awful. The Democrats go lower. Rob, if you can. The previous tweet, very. No, she's right.
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Tom Ellsworth
Go back one statement.
- [25:10]
Patrick Bet-David
Go back. 48 million views.
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Vinny
Oh, my.
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Patrick Bet-David
Are you kidding me? Like, imagine you wake up the next day, your name is Kamala. You didn't know when you said yes to this and you said, what the hell were you guys thinking?
- [25:21]
Tom Ellsworth
Exactly.
- [25:21]
Patrick Bet-David
They're like your device. What do you.
- [25:25]
Vinny
I was hungover.
- [25:27]
Patrick Bet-David
Why did you guys let this go out?
- [25:29]
Vinny
Oh, my goodness. Why they let you shoot it?
- [25:31]
Patrick Bet-David
Crazy to allow something. By the way, this is coming straight, so you know this is not a deep fake. Or maybe this is happening for a different reason. And let me kind of go into this, maybe this. And I'm going to come.
- [25:43]
Tom Ellsworth
President Biden was in the Amazon, so she's one anaconda from the president.
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Patrick Bet-David
And so check this out, Check this out, check this out. And by the way, for those of you guys that enjoy having a little bit of fun on Thanksgiving, I have a challenge for you. Hang tight. We're going to do something here. Fun to get. It's going to be a blast. And we're going to be trending on Twitter, but we're going to need your help. Hang tight for me. Hang tight for me. All right, so here we go. This story. Rob, go to this clip. I was stunned. DNC official says Harris took no responsibility for blowing billions during campaign donor call. Zero responsibility. And by the way, you know who just took a happy $500,000 as if it's not a big deal. Guess who got $500,000?
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Vinny
Hey, man from the campaign.
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Patrick Bet-David
Yeah, who got five? Go ahead, Tom.
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Vinny
You know, I guess is Al Sharpton. Oh, weird.
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Patrick Bet-David
$500,000. He's $500,000 too. And a bunch of other people getting.
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Tom Ellsworth
Money in his head.
- [26:32]
Patrick Bet-David
But watch this. Watch the fact that she's saying there was zero responsibility. Rob, please play this clip.
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Rob
She actually held two calls, one for her top donors and one for Grassroots. I was speaking and texting with fellow attendees of the call and we were amazed by how self congratulatory the tone was. I don't recall the call was about 20, 30 minutes. I don't recall anyone taking responsibility, really. Or the fact that we spent about $2 billion across super PAC in the campaign and came up so significantly short. We lost seven swing states.
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Patrick Bet-David
Self congratulatory in what, what types of things were being said.
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Rob
They praise Harris as a visionary leader. I believe at one moment during the call she was talking about her Thanksgiving recipe. I don't say this with any malice or anything. I'm just merely conveying what happened. I think I was stunned to hear that given just the extent and brutality of the loss and the fact that DNC staffers, 2/3, at least 2/3 have been fired summarily and a lot of a lot of them are at a loss as to what to do. I'm just, I'm just frankly stunned that there was no sort of postmortem or an analysis of how we can do better, what sort of lessons were learned. It was really just patting the butt on the back.
- [27:58]
Vinny
Congratulations.
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Patrick Bet-David
Adam, what do you think about when you see this?
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Adam Sosnick
So A couple things. Back to that first video. This was Kamala's most viewed viral video ever, period. A little bit too late for this thing, you know? But here's the reality with Kamala. There's a great picture of her right here.
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Vinny
That's like my aunt. That looks like my drunk aunt. That's what she looked like every single Saturday.
- [28:20]
Adam Sosnick
Drunk uncles.
- [28:22]
Tom Ellsworth
Hang on.
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Vinny
That's my aunt.
- [28:23]
Tom Ellsworth
If you scream, squint. Your eyes blurry. She's becoming Maxine Waters.
- [28:27]
Vinny
She is. Holy crap.
- [28:28]
Patrick Bet-David
Adam. Go ahead. Talk about your eyes.
- [28:30]
Adam Sosnick
So the problem with Kamala is she can't win. She literally can't win. When she doesn't speak enough, she's not speaking. Why isn't she speaking? She's not doing interviews. And then when she does speak, people are saying, why is this chick speaking? What? Shut her up already. What's wrong with this woman? She can't win. So that's what. That's the sign of a very bad politician. She's just incredibly unlikable. Pat said this before. If there was actually a primary and they actually had to get up on stage and debate, she wouldn't have beat Gavin Newsom. She wouldn't beat Pritzker. She wouldn't beat Whitmer. She wouldn't have. Meet a whole host of people. Josh Shapiro, 20 20. Thank you. Exactly. We know what happened right there. Her unlikability factor is incredibly high. They tried to basically catapult her up the mountain.
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Vinny
All right.
- [29:17]
Adam Sosnick
Dei.
- [29:18]
Patrick Bet-David
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
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Adam Sosnick
Put her on all these things. It didn't work. We understand that. You know, there's something called a lame duck president. This is the lamest duck vice president maybe ever. Because not only is she still the lame duck vp, she's also the lame duck candidate that just lost. And in honor of national Turkey Day, she gets the award for that. As far as how much money she spent. $2 billion. It is what it is.
- [29:44]
Patrick Bet-David
That's.
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Adam Sosnick
They could have raised $3 billion. She would have lost. She got destroyed. And the fact that she's getting on calls and not even being conciliatory and being like my Jamaican Thanksgiving party recipe. Check me out. It's. It's all over for Kamala, but she'll get a job working for probably Halliburton or some lobbyists, get a million bucks a year.
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Patrick Bet-David
Let me continue a couple stories, and Tom, I'm going to come to you. Kamala Harris, campaign advisor, admits she had no path to victory. This is campaign advisor. There was no path to victory. And they admitted this. David Plough on pot Save America. Rob, do you have this? Go and play this clip. There was no path for. So listen, there is no way you're going to win. Well, let's spend $2 billion. Let's give it a bunch of money to our friends and family. Of course. Go ahead, Rob, play this clip, please.
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Layla Micklewait
We got the race to dead heat was positive, but boy, it was slow moving. And I think we were focused on seven states. You know, that's our windshield into the world, the battleground states. But you know, what we saw on election day was, you know, New Jersey and California and Connecticut and New York, massive shifts. So I think where Kamala Harris campaigned, we were able to keep the tide down a little bit, but it ended up being a pretty strong, you know, tailwind for Donald Trump. And I think it's worth reminding everybody we saw in 22, even though that was a pretty decent Democratic year, we saw these shifts. We saw them in 20, we saw them in 16. You know, Trump specifically. But Republicans generally says there's improving their vote share.
- [31:17]
Tom Ellsworth
He doesn't actually say that in the clip. He just continues to allude that they lost all the swing states and got hammered in all of them.
- [31:24]
Patrick Bet-David
All lost all swing states and got hammered on all of them. But they saw a path, that this was kind of momentum going the direction it was going 2022.
- [31:32]
Tom Ellsworth
When he says got hammered, does he mean they were drinking with Kamala, by the way?
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Patrick Bet-David
She stayed six nights with her husband in place. Spent six nights post election at thirteen hundred dollars a night. Hawaiian retreat owned by Mondavi wine family member. The state included three complimentary bottles of Mondavi family wine. She later returned to the Bay Area. Thanks him. While reflecting on her campaign while which spent over a billion dollars but failed to win any of the battleground states. Go ahead. What?
- [31:58]
Adam Sosnick
Thanks. Citizen United. This was at Humberto sent us yesterday. This was the margin of victory in each state all across the country. Humberto sent this. So you see all the blue on the map.
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Vinny
I don't exactly.
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Adam Sosnick
Basically the country was like, yeah, we're done, we can't deal with this anymore. By the way, this is a, this was a, you know, what's the thing with the acceleration when things go. Two years ago, Trump's approval rating exponential was 30 something percent. Biden's approval rating and the Democratic proving after midterm elections were over 50%. The country after midterms when the red wave was going to happen was like, yeah, we're done with this. Maga Stuff if you would have told the general person two years ago after the midterm elections, oh, by the way, Trump's going to win and the entire country is going red. Any normal, sensible person, like, what are you talking about? But over the last two years, with the DEI stuff, with the woke stuff with our friend Dylan Mulvaney, all this not knowing the difference between a man and a woman, all the weaponization of justice, everything added up to the entire country going red. Watch this. Okay, Florida got a little bit redder. DeSantis, we get it.
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Tom Ellsworth
Texas 14.
- [33:09]
Adam Sosnick
Look at California and look at New York and New Jersey. Are you freaking kidding me? Over here. Already got over here.
- [33:16]
Patrick Bet-David
By the way. You got to explain what this means. This means which states got bluer?
- [33:21]
Adam Sosnick
Yes.
- [33:21]
Patrick Bet-David
Which states got redder? Guys, America got redder.
- [33:24]
Adam Sosnick
Yes. Even Hawaii, dc, that is not one state got blue.
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Vinny
Hey, tough guy. Hey, take it easy. I'm from yellow. Let me talk for a second. But, and, but Adam. And you nailed it. So $2 billion. And let's address the first point because Rob talked about this yesterday on the unusuals. All think about all the grassroots people, all the people that busted their asses and you as the freaking front running president for this party, you couldn't even come out and be like, hey guys, thank you. Good job. Well, you know, congratulations for at least the thing that we did. And you know what's crazy? $2 billion and this whole, you know what? They thought her race, black woman of color, it was going to work. It's done. Everybody's done. And you proved to it with Obama, Obama didn't move the needle at all. And think about this. For that $2 billion, she should have just said, you know what? I know we're going to lose. Since they know there's no path to victory. Take that $2 billion, you border czar, you know what? And put it to the border. Let's start. That's what she should have done.
- [34:21]
Patrick Bet-David
I'm going to lose.
- [34:22]
Vinny
But you know what? Instead of taking all that money and wasting it on a campaign, let's put it to the border and actually try to help America be protected.
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Tom Ellsworth
Well, I back in by. I'm as shocked and as emotional as you are about it. And I back down and kind of into my, my quantitative mode. That just wasn't anybody speaking. That was Lindy Lee, who is the DNC Finance committee.
- [34:44]
Vinny
She's the money.
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Tom Ellsworth
So what do they do? They are the ones that politely reach out. Hi. This is what we're going to be doing. The campaign's raining money to do this. We're with the dnc, we're going to be pushing this. She's going door to door with major corporations. She's going, she's at Google, she's at Facebook, she's at all these places. And then she's going back to Soros and these people.
- [35:06]
Patrick Bet-David
So this is a credible political party, Democratic Party.
- [35:10]
Tom Ellsworth
And then what did she say happened? Two thirds of the dnc, the Democrat National Committee isn't just here during an election year. They are here all the time. Because right now, every two years House of Representatives elections go off. So they are already getting ready for two years, going into the midterm elections. They're already there because they're doing damage control right now trying to get back in.
- [35:33]
Vinny
Yeah.
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Tom Ellsworth
So she said 2/3 of the DNC has been fired. So someone at top the DNC is reacting right now and saying my next five moves. They're doing their next five moves. And the last point I'll make when they say they saw no path to victory. Man, you should have seen. Remember when Pat said, hey, we're doing the polling and everything. Tom, do a polling show. Let's talk to the valuetainment audience. We kept it short, 10 minutes a week. We had a 17 week countdown and we carefully, with the same AI, we.
- [36:07]
Patrick Bet-David
Carefully crushed it, right?
- [36:08]
Tom Ellsworth
That's right. What we were using, well Pat had invested in all those, the engineers for VTNews AI. So we were using that in the AI, building our models and looking at it. And we said, you know what? Atlas, Intel, Rasmussen, these folks look like they've got it together because that's the numbers we're seeing. And guess what? We were dead.
- [36:27]
Adam Sosnick
Right.
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Tom Ellsworth
That's the same stuff that they were seeing inside DNC and they were lying to their donors, telling them that they thought they couldn't win. There's a path to victory here. They were point blank lying to them. Two thirds of all those people lost their job. And you've got this woman looking at it and saying, Lindy Lee going, the campaign's got some responsibility here and I'm frickin shocked.
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Vinny
So you just said two years is coming up. That's the next, the next election. As business guys, as guys that the midterms that run companies. How do you adjust as the Democratic dnc, whatever that I get on the surface. Stop with the race. How do you adjust? How would you guys.
- [37:04]
Tom Ellsworth
Hey, they're not dumb forever. My next five moves would be 2/3 of you were fired.
- [37:09]
Vinny
Yeah.
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Tom Ellsworth
So there are not Stupid people at the dnc. There's a lot of them, but there are people that know what they're doing, know how to run it. And someone has stepped up and said, control, alt, delete, stop. Two thirds of you are fired. Now let's get ready for the midterms. This is going to be a fight. So there are smart people that are.
- [37:25]
Patrick Bet-David
Let me tell you who is maybe a very qualified person to answer the question for you. Do you know who Brian Williams is?
- [37:31]
Adam Sosnick
Yeah, of course.
- [37:32]
Patrick Bet-David
Brian Williams stepped down. He had a job. He stepped down and Brian Williams, NBC. NBC.
- [37:37]
Adam Sosnick
He was I think ABC at one point.
- [37:38]
Patrick Bet-David
And by the way, when he stepped down, he was like furious when he stepped down because he wrote a letter. He wrote a letter and it was like anybody you know when he stepped down? I think he stepped down in middle of election two years ago. No, when, when did he step down? No, no, no, no. I actually disagree. He stepped down, announced that his host of election. I don't know when he stepped down, but he stepped down, announced on November.
- [37:59]
Adam Sosnick
2021 that he would be leaving MSNBC. So three years ago, okay, three years.
- [38:02]
Patrick Bet-David
Ago he stepped down. Watch this.
- [38:04]
Tom Ellsworth
He was fired. He did a couple things right.
- [38:06]
Patrick Bet-David
Well, he got, he had some controversy in the past as well. But let me tell you what he said. He's on Seth. What's the guy's name?
- [38:12]
Adam Sosnick
Seth Meyers.
- [38:12]
Patrick Bet-David
Seth Meyers. So watch what he says to Seth Meyers in this. He goes there, his words. He says it's tough love for the Democratic Party. It's time to re. Strip down and rebuild the whole thing. Maybe we're not going to play the whole clip. It's a buck fifty. Go to play this clip. Rob, watch this.
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Vinny
Feel like the Democratic Party under Joe Biden did a lot of things for working class voters. Certainly inflation was a giant issue. Messaging as well. Do you feel like they just failed to message what they had done for and had planned for the.
- [38:44]
Layla Micklewait
It is tough love time for the Democratic Party. I think it needs to be stripped down and rebuilt. I think that means a change in leadership.
- [38:52]
Patrick Bet-David
Damn.
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Layla Micklewait
That's Obama's leader. Obama's the leader that Joe Biden stand for another four years at 80 years of age and 37% popularity. So then that saddled the party with a British like short campaign season for them. I think it's insulting when members of the working class, which the Democratic Party has lost entirely in our lifetime to insist the economy is doing great. A 12 pack.
- [39:22]
Patrick Bet-David
This is a Democrat dollars.
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Layla Micklewait
Rich folks don't feel that poor folks already switched to Sparkle during the COVID During the lockdown. And I think telling them that the Nasdaq is gangbusters is further insulting. It's insulting. I think the biggest unforced error of the Biden administration by far was the border. To tell people it's not a problem is insulting. For the working class to see incoming migrants getting welcome bags, debit cards, and motel rooms.
- [39:56]
Patrick Bet-David
Yes.
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Layla Micklewait
Is probably insulting as well. So there's a lot of work to do. You know, it was when they handed out camo hats, the. That said Harris Walz and the Democrats were. They were kind of charmed by that. Their party has gone quinoa and the rest of America's eating at Cracker Barrel. And so they. It was kind of an ironic use of something millions of Americans put on their heads to start their day every day.
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Patrick Bet-David
Wow. I didn't even see, by the way. You can't. You can't put it better than the way a Democrat put it. A Democrat that's been in this space that was part of mainstream. He's telling you this is the problem to the face of a guy that is all in for all of those things that he trashed. Yeah. In it. So imagine his audience has been hearing him say all this stuff. Look at the great economy. Look at what's going on. He's like, no, man, you've been fooling people as well. You're part of the problem. Yeah. To his face.
- [40:54]
Vinny
So, Pat, who steps up? Okay. Obama. Done. Hillary.
- [40:58]
Patrick Bet-David
Yeah.
- [40:58]
Vinny
She's hinting. She's they. Who's going to step up for the Democratic Party? I'm being genuine and. All right, guys, no more of this race shit. Lgbtq, whatever, this dear sensitive crap. We have to admit that the borders is. Who's going to step up for them and be like, listen, this is how we're going to do it. All you old people get the hell out. We have to go new.
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Patrick Bet-David
You know who had a shot? I mean, Rob just pulled this up, if you want to zoom in a little bit. Rob, who do Democratic voters want to see run in 2028? Kamala is at 37%, which, by the way, if you're conservative, that's great. Yeah, Fantastic. Please run her. Yeah. Gavin Newsom. 7.
- [41:31]
Vinny
Satan.
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Patrick Bet-David
Fantastic. Pete. 4. Whitmer. 3. Josh Shapiro, 3. Michelle Obama. 2.
- [41:38]
Vinny
They have nobody.
- [41:38]
Patrick Bet-David
Bernie. 2. Tim Waltz, 1. Undecided.
- [41:41]
Vinny
Whoever the undecided guy is, he should go because that, you know, here's.
- [41:45]
Patrick Bet-David
Here's what I would say when it comes down to this There were moments, and this is a missed opportunity on him. The one guy on this list that's the most formidable is. Who. Who's the most?
- [41:55]
Vinny
I think Josh Shapiro.
- [41:56]
Patrick Bet-David
Shapiro. And who's the second most form?
- [41:58]
Vinny
Gavin Newsom.
- [41:59]
Patrick Bet-David
Okay, perfect. So let's go through those two guys.
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Tom Ellsworth
Shapiro on policy, Newsom on presence.
- [42:03]
Patrick Bet-David
And remember, the one thing I've learned in my lifetime is do you think Trump is the smartest when it comes down to policy?
- [42:12]
Adam Sosnick
No.
- [42:13]
Vinny
Out of all them, I think out.
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Patrick Bet-David
Of all The Republican candidates, 2016, the smartest. Who is the most qualified? Lawyer. Military policy, Worked in Congress, worked as a Senate, worked at a governor, ran as a state, knows the swamp. Is he the most qualified?
- [42:29]
Adam Sosnick
The answer is he is not the most qualified.
- [42:32]
Tom Ellsworth
You won't like the name, but the one who's probably.
- [42:36]
Vinny
Ted Cruz.
- [42:37]
Tom Ellsworth
Ted Cruz. If you take away how he says it and how he upsets people, and you were just to look at. If he wrote it down and you read it, you would say, whoever wrote this paper here is the guy.
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Patrick Bet-David
I'm with you. But guess what my point is. You know what we've learned? Market doesn't care who's the smartest.
- [42:53]
Vinny
Right?
- [42:53]
Patrick Bet-David
No, no, I'm telling you, you're right. Market doesn't care who's sitting. The Market's like, who do I think is going to get the job done, period? We're so much like. You go, you want to like. I remember one time I went to one of my guys is like, hey, you want to meet the smartest guy that knows every single word in the Bible? I'm like, what are you talking? He says, you give him any scripture, he's going to tell you exactly what it is. He's memorized the entire Old and New Testament. I said, get out of here. He says, no, you got to come to Sunday semen service. I go to his service. There's less than a hundred people in this guy's church. He's been doing it for 20 years. And I said, wait a minute, this is the guy? He says, yeah. He says, you want to meet him afterwards? Ask him any question. I said, yeah, afterwards we meet him. I'm like, what about this and what about that? Boom, boom, boom. Just random. You open up the Bible to him. Deuteronomy. He's not stuff like Proverbs, you know, whatever. He's got it now. Walking out. You know what I asked the guy? I said, if he knows so much about the Bible, how come no one comes to his church? He's been doing this for 20 years because he doesn't know how to baptize. He doesn't know how to deliver the message. Newsom knows how to deliver the message. Newsom showed signs of going to the center a little bit. Remember when Tom would say, here's another opportunity, here's another chance that he's shown that he's going to center. He's doing this, he's doing that. And then what does he do? He fumbles it again. Look at this here. Newsom proposes electric vehicle tax rebate plan. Make up your mind. Do you want us to drive electric or gas? What is the incentive? Tell us. Okay, I'm going to read this, Rob, and then you can play the clip. Newsom has proposed a new electric vehicle rebate program that may exclude Tesla, a move that has drawn a drawn ire from CEO Elon Musk. The initiative aims to revitalize the state's clean vehicle rebate program, which was phased out in 2023 and as a response to President elect Donald Trump's plans to eliminate federal tax credits for EVs. Must criticize the proposal as insane. Highlighting that Tesla's the only electric vehicle manufacturing in California and previously received a significant portion of state rebates, Newsom's office contends that excluding larger market players like Tesla could foster competition amongst automakers. The proposal, which would necessitate negotiations with the state legislature, is seen as part of Newsom's strategy to counter federal policies under Trump. Rob, go on and play this clip. Go for it. Watch this here.
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Rob
Tesla's electric vehicles would likely not qualify for California's new state tax credits. That's under a proposal in the works if President elect Donald Trump scraps the credit for EV purchases. The update came from the state's governor Gavin Newsom's office on Monday. It prompted Tesla shares to close down and fall another 1.2% in after hours trading. Reuters reported this month that Trump's transition team is considering eliminating the federal tax credit of $7,500 for EV sales. Tesla CEO Elon Musk, a close Trump adviser, sharply criticized the idea of barring the automaker from EV subsidies. He wrote on X in response, even though Tesla is the only company who manufactures their EVs in California. This is insane. The state faces financial headwinds with an estimated $2 billion budget deficit next year. EVs account for 22% of California's car sales. But Musk and Newsom have clashed over a number of state policies. These include the shutting of a Tesla factory during the pandemic And California's approval of a bill on transgender children. In 2021, Tesla moved its headquarters from California to Texas. Musk said this year that his other companies, such as SpaceX and social media platform X, will follow suit.
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Patrick Bet-David
Can you imagine that? You can pause it right there, by the way. 56% of new EV sales in California last quarter, according to Bloomberg, were all What? Tesla, Tesla, 56%. And you're doing something like this. Tom, what are your thoughts on this here?
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Tom Ellsworth
Well, first of all, let's, let's just look at the facts before I go off. So Newsom's office says excluding larger market players like Tesla, no, excluding Tesla could foster competition among automakers. But wait a minute, no other EV manufacturers make anything in California. So because you're having a hissy fit over Elon Musk and you're going to do this, you're going to cause others to compete with Tesla. But there's 27,000 Californias employed by Tesla, including 22,000 at the factory in Fremont. Let me pronounce Fremont, San Francisco Bay Area. So it's the, it's the most liberal of the liberal areas of the state, and you have 22,000 Californians that work there. Meanwhile, your governor is going to say there needs to be more competition. And if there's more competition and it's successful, some of those people could get laid off. Isn't that shocking? So I look at that and I'm like, what are you doing? The other side of it is you're, you're basically playing the same hissy fit retaliation. This is how liberals retaliate. This is, and I'll prove it, the 2021 Biden White House TV summit. Who did they not invite? If you go back and look at the articles there, there were two articles that were written in the mainstream media that said that was the point where Musk went from neutral to breaking from the Democrats. That, that was Musk saying, well, that's the last straw. And what did he do to them? He basically put jet fuel in the Trump campaign, supporting it with all the things he did. And so he is in no small part a very active participant in the defeat of Joe Biden. And now you're sitting here, Gavin Newsom, basically throwing a fit, saying you're going to eliminate some subsidies and by the way, you're trying to get to 30% EVs in California. You saw that announcement, right? Big thing. And yet you're going to make the EV more expensive for Californians and you're going to put some Californian jobs at risk. But he's going to run to the microphone, the slick guy that he is, and he's going to put the spin on it. But the truth, the absolute truth is this is our absolute wrong headed policy that Democrat congressmen, Democrat congressmen talking about U.S. congressmen. Democrats in California are saying, what are we doing? What are we doing here?
- [49:25]
Patrick Bet-David
Yeah. But the reason why we went into this story with Newsom is the following. Newsom has a shot at 2028. So who is going to be when Brian Williams is saying we need to get rid of everything that they've done and start all over? Right. Okay. Leadership at the top. Who is the, who is the voice of the Democratic Party? It's Obama.
- [49:45]
Vinny
It's Barack.
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Patrick Bet-David
Okay, and who do you put in the top five today? Who are the voices of the Democratic Party?
- [49:51]
Vinny
Hillary Clinton. Nancy Pelosi.
- [49:53]
Patrick Bet-David
Okay.
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Vinny
Chuck Schumer.
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Patrick Bet-David
Soros has to be in there. He's the money guy. So he's in the top five.
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Tom Ellsworth
George Little Soros.
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Vinny
Little Soros. Oh yeah, Alex.
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Patrick Bet-David
And then you got a, you got a few other names that you're thinking about. Right? Okay. So somebody has to come in. Think about who is the Soros of the right today. Who's the star?
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Vinny
Elon Musk.
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Patrick Bet-David
Of course it is. And it's not even close.
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Vinny
Yeah.
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Patrick Bet-David
And Soros going against Elon Musk. Who is more powerful?
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Vinny
Elon Musk.
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Patrick Bet-David
It's not even close.
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Vinny
Yeah.
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Patrick Bet-David
Because Soros doesn't know how to. He's not out there. Elon is. And he's got a very hard time competing against Elon. He wishes he had Elon's type of money. He's still going to do his part. He's still going to play his game, but it's not going to work. When it comes down to going up and going up against the Musk, there needs to be an outsider because look, look what's going on here. That even Ilhan Omar comes out and says, what the hell were you thinking, Harrison Waltz when you started courting Liz Cheney, she called it a huge misstep.
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Vinny
Yeah.
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Patrick Bet-David
By the way, it is huge. Here's a person that when Christian Bale won the, what do you call it? The Oscar. And he says, I want to thank the devil for allowing me to play this movie. He called Dick Cheney the devil when he won. Do you guys not remember the speech?
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Vinny
Oh my.
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Patrick Bet-David
So you are able to say that at freaking Oscars after you win for the movie Vice and now you want to go get. You think American people forgot? Nope. So you. You want American people to go back. I don't know if we can pay it if we get flagged or not, but that's the speech. Will we get flag, Rob, or no? Because.
- [51:26]
Adam Sosnick
No, we're talk.
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Tom Ellsworth
We're commenting.
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Patrick Bet-David
Okay, go ahead, play the clip. Is this the one, Rob?
- [51:29]
Tom Ellsworth
It is, but it's 2 minutes and 6 seconds.
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Patrick Bet-David
I think he says it in the first 10 seconds. Let's see if this is what it is. I think he says it right off the bat. Oh, look at all of us. What a bunch of luck. Lucky buggers we are.
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Tom Ellsworth
Right to make a life out of doing something that we love.
- [51:43]
Patrick Bet-David
Right. That's extraordinary.
- [51:45]
Tom Ellsworth
Thank you for allowing me to be a part of that for so many years.
- [51:50]
Patrick Bet-David
Thank you to my beautiful wife who told me less is more.
- [51:54]
Tom Ellsworth
Say less right now. She knows the dumb crap that can come out of my mouth at times.
- [51:58]
Patrick Bet-David
I can sink and ruin a perfectly.
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Tom Ellsworth
Good movie in a so. So career in one.
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Patrick Bet-David
Speech.
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Layla Micklewait
Speech.
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Tom Ellsworth
So thank you for that advice, my love.
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Patrick Bet-David
I wouldn't be working without her. And thank you for our beautiful children. Banana and burrito. You know, they've given me a love.
- [52:14]
Tom Ellsworth
And a soul that I never thought possible. Thank you to that geezer over there, Adam.
- [52:23]
Patrick Bet-David
If he can find a shorter code when he gets to it, he gets right to it.
- [52:25]
Vinny
He literally says.
- [52:26]
Patrick Bet-David
Yeah, he says this. Satan or devil? He says, I want to thank him because without him, I would have never played a role. So. But anyways, so you do that. So now they're all behind closed doors. But here's the part. This is exactly where in the Republican Party right now there are no opportunities. You know why? Why are there no opportunities today in the Republican Party?
- [52:47]
Adam Sosnick
Trump owns the party. And then you have J.D. vance. That's going to be.
- [52:50]
Patrick Bet-David
Let me tell you why. No, because there's the Republican Party today under Trump. They don't need anything.
- [52:58]
Vinny
You're right.
- [52:58]
Patrick Bet-David
There is no problem to solve. They got the right people.
- [53:01]
Vinny
Yep. And the right policies and the right.
- [53:02]
Patrick Bet-David
Yeah. So for, for example, like, you know, hey, I want to be the governor of such and such great guys are right now reaching out to me. Hey, who do you think is going to be the next governor of Florida? You want to run after DeSantis? He's done a great job. Go ahead. What are you going to solve? Tell me what he's done that you're going to do better. Yeah. Than Desantis. Go ahead. Yeah, the only. You understand what I'm saying? Like, yeah, you got flip. One and a half Million votes, the next senator. Because there literally, there's more opportunities on the Democratic Party right now than the Republican Party. Because under the Republican Party, you can't be an outsider and say, you see, the reason why Trump didn't win is because of that. You don't have that ability. It's done. There is no argument. So many establishment Republicans were waiting for him to lose, to say, this is why our way. And if you guys would have listened to us, right. Guess what? The Democratic Party has that opportunity. You got a good argument. This is the time for you to come out and show your argument. Because they're in shambles. Yeah, right now. They are in shambles right now, by the way. You know who that could be? Let me tell you what that could be. That could be a common sense outsider that has a lot of money. That could be a common sense outsider with a lot of wealth, a lot of finances who can come in and say, look, guys, if you guys want to go this route, I'm not with it. If you guys want to go this crazy, I'm not with it. If you guys want to go in, you know, transgender puberty blocker, I'm not with it. If I'm. I'm for this, I'm for boom, boom, boom, boom. Okay? If you're for boom, boom, boom, boom, I'm in. If not, I'm out. So this is the problem. Rogan's doing a podcast, I think yesterday. He's talking to Mark Andreessen, and he tells Mark, he says, hey, they keep talking about, they got to go find their next Joe Rogan on the left. Joe says, you had him. I was with you. You lost me. What do you mean? Go find a Joe Rogan on the left. I was you. And now you're asking him, is this the one, Rob?
- [55:02]
Adam Sosnick
No.
- [55:02]
Patrick Bet-David
Hang on. You'll see it. You'll see it. What's up? You had me, and now you want to go out there and say you're gonna find the next Joe Rogan. Now they got to go build the next Joe Rogan on who? Is it Alice Cooper? Alice Cooper's not Joe Rogan. No. Is that her name, by the way? I won't say correctly. I don't want to.
- [55:15]
Adam Sosnick
Alex Cooper.
- [55:15]
Patrick Bet-David
Alex Cooper. It's not. There's no I ain't at the end. Right?
- [55:19]
Vinny
So, yeah, so Alex is not Armenian.
- [55:22]
Patrick Bet-David
Alex Cooper. Young. Right, so Alex Cooper, you think she's going to be the next Rogan? Who's going to be the next Rogan on the left. And by the Way. What is the next Rogan? You know, what is the next Rogan? Yesterday I'm talking to Kevin McCarthy and we're having a conversation about a book. He's always such a big reader. So he's always like, we share books with each other. He says in the book, think again. You know, what's the concept about the book Think again. It's like, it's okay to be wrong and think again. I think it's by the guy, Adam Grant, he wrote another book called Originals, which I frickin love. It's like, hey, you. And by the way, this guy's a liberal himself, the author, but it's okay. So if the Democrats can't think again and you're stubborn to your old policies that you can't let go, guess what? You may be destroyed for many, many, many years to come. Because right now they have these predictions. Rob, I don't know which page it's at, if you can help me out. That says the picks of the left and the right of President for 2028. And they have the favorites. It's on one of these pages. I just looked. Oh, there it is. It's on page seven. Poll reveals who Democrats and Republicans want to run in 2028. Here's a poll shown the left and the right. Is this the one on the left?
- [56:28]
Tom Ellsworth
Yes.
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Patrick Bet-David
Okay, so we just showed that. Can you go to the one on the right? Look at the one on the right. If you got it, that'd be great to show it. Here's the one on the right. Look at that.
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Vinny
Boom.
- [56:36]
Patrick Bet-David
Look at that. It's not even close. JD's 30, Ron is 5, Vivek 3, Haley 2. RFK is now considered a Republican.
- [56:46]
Vinny
Wow.
- [56:47]
Patrick Bet-David
Tulsi won 51% undecided. Right. So you go to JD okay. Trump goes the way he's going. By the way, you guys remember when I said pre election, it's Trump won, then everybody else? I said post election, enemy the state. Number one is going to be who? Musk, then JD Then Trump and everyone else. It's already happening. You know what stories are circulating right now? Let me tell you what stories are circulating right now. They're showing pictures of Trump standing in the back next to Musk while Musk is speaking and Trump's looking like skeptical. Okay. Because what they're trying to do now is this. And I called it. That's the one right there. Fifth one. Fifth one. Rob, that. No, that's, that's not. There's one other one. You'll see where he's looking at him with a frown.
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Vinny
He just showed it.
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Patrick Bet-David
Yeah, so. So he's. That's not the one, that's another one. So, so anyways, this is what they're going to be doing. What they're going to be doing right now is the following. You know what the perfect play is? Let me tell you what the perfect play is. Oh, and it's gonna. It could work. I hope it doesn't work, but it could work. What I love about when Musk said is, I don't want any credit, I don't want any awards, I don't want any money. I just want to make America great. I don't want nothing. It's a beautiful thing because sometimes they say the best CIA agents. When I interviewed this lady who was a CIA agent of 2020 or Jonah Mendez, I said, what makes for a great CIA agent? Do you remember her answer?
- [58:12]
Vinny
No.
- [58:12]
Patrick Bet-David
She said somebody that's a great salesperson, great negotiator, extremely charming, extremely charismatic, hardworking, phenomenal at everything they do. But when they meet somebody, they don't go and brag about who they met and post a picture all over social media and tag it, oh, look who I am. Right? They are willing, they save the free world and they don't want the credit for it. That's the right CIA agent, right? Sometimes that makes for somebody that's a good right hand guy, a good running mate, somebody that is not like looking for that credit. Elon Musk is showing that I'm the richest man in the world and I want nothing from you, Trump. But they're going to do the following and I'm telling you, it could work effectively if it gets under Trump's skin. And here's what it is. 40 laws of power, law number one. Rob, can you go to 40 laws of power law number one. Do you know what law number one is? Don't outshine, never outshine the master. Law number one, never outshine the master. For the next four years. Nobody can outshine Trump, and I mean nobody. If anything happens and credit is given and they spin it, this is how they do it. You ready? Elon Musk is Trump's puppet master. That's what they're going to do. That's coming soon. Guy Manekta me yesterday says everything you said about Zuck because you and Trump are time travelers. You guys are like you're predicting all this stuff. And it was a funny thing that he's saying, but I, I know they have to create that friction between those two. It's not even JD Right now. They'll do JD and you're three, four. But they have to do Musk. Right now. You're one year, two. First they're gonna have to find that play between the two, and they're gonna have to write it all over the place. Cover of Time magazine. It's got to be a puppet master. What do you call it? A picture of Musk and Trump on the bottom holding them. Just to poke the bear. Oh, that's what they're going to do. And they're going to say, the President of the United States is really Elon Musk. It's not Trump. Elon Musk is the President of United States and he's toying with Trump. And they're going to poke the bear. Poke the bear. Poke the bear. And I just pray and hope it does nothing to Trump. I pray and hope when that comment is made, Musk attacks whoever wrote it. Because they're going to do it. It is coming. Whenever you go up against a divisive community, who the way they. There's two types of people who win in life, Vinnie. It's very weird. They compete in a very different way. The one type that wins is the guy that's willing to go to work, solve the problem, recruit the people, raise the money, be patiently aggressive. Eventually, boom, we win. Yes, and look at what we've built. But the opposition is the one that wins by preventing you from winning. Spreading rumors, spreading disinformation, throwing you under the bus propaganda, pinning you against your people internally, getting in a web and using phrases like, you see, you never get credit. Everyone's this, you know, without you, Trump would have never won. You're the reason why he won Pennsylvania. You're the reason why this. If you would have done that, do you realize that you're the person that may pull this off? Do you realize that you were the one that. That's how they play. And by the way, sometimes this is more effective short term, this is effective long term, but this is effective short term. Look what happened when he's like, yeah, they got me for six years. Russia collusion. Who else did they get for six years? But guess what? It was effective enough to not win in 2020. Yep, it was effective enough when 51 CIA secret intel intelligence officers has said, there's nothing in that laptop. It worked. It's effective to say, hey, Dorsey, don't post that story up from New York Post. It worked. These guys are great at winning short term, but they ruined marriages, they ruined incredible alliances. They destroyed great relationships, they destroyed great empires. This movie that came out, Gladiator 2, Denzel plays the villain who goes and devised the two brothers, helps one brother kill the other brother. That's the story. Short term, he wins. Long term, listen, it's fine long term, but this is only a four year. Four year, what do you call it? Term. And in four years you're going to. I'm, I'm convinced this image I just told you is coming very soon. Wow. I'm convinced they're going to play this card very soon. Yeah. And so the fact that it's out there, I hope people are talking about this, you know where they're going to play this card. And I just hope Trump's folks are preparing for this. They're going to do it. They're going to do it. And then if it's across the board with everybody, time, cnn, msnbc, you know, Politico, Vanity Fair, every one of them is playing to this card. 40 laws of power. Law number one, never outshine the master. And I'm convinced the person that's going to prevent this from happening is Musk, because Musk doesn't care to get the credit. Musk is a true believer. Musk, I believe, is doing it because he really believes in something. Or else how much more money do you need? If it was anybody else, I think it could work. I don't think could work. Just because I think it's Musk. Just because. Because I think Musk is a natural, organic flag carrier. Do you understand what I'm saying with this whole messaging? So for me, that's why I said an outsider in the Democratic Party could come in, but that person needs to come in and say, hey, Obama, let's face it, you've lost credibility. We're still going to need you. But this is not working. The stuff we're pitching and someone that everybody in that room respects and fears, that has money and clout, who that is, I don't know. I don't know who that is. But it's got to be somebody that's respected. Fear will clout to do it, or else the other side's going to be sweeping for potentially 12 years. 12 years, JD two terms, Trump one term. We could be looking at till 2038. A Republican White House in America.
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Vinny
Yeah.
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Adam Sosnick
So give you some validity to that.
- [64:24]
Patrick Bet-David
Yeah, of course.
- [64:24]
Adam Sosnick
So this whole conversation started off with Vinny's question of what's going to happen to the Democratic Party? How are they going to rebuild this? I've been thinking about this. I've been sort of sitting on this. It's not going to just be a little bit of change. It's not a good amount of change. It's going to take a radical amount of change. It makes me think of the story of a PBD 2003, 2004, where you said, I think it was when your dad had a heart attack, by the way, love you, Papa. Happy Thanksgiving. I gave you said I'm done. Don't call me to go to the club anymore. I'm not drinking, I'm reading. I'm not listening to the radio anymore. I'm not going on dates. You went 18 months without sex. Unbelievable.
- [65:02]
Patrick Bet-David
17 months.
- [65:03]
Adam Sosnick
Okay. Sorry about that. You know, I try to give you a little extra credit right there, but you had to make.
- [65:08]
Patrick Bet-David
I remember people.
- [65:10]
Adam Sosnick
Okay, you offended good and I just went bad. Radical, go ahead. I feel bad for the girl who got the 18 month. She said, but it took a radical amount of change. Think about this. The last time the Democrats were in this position, ready, you saw, you talked about 12 years. Think about what happened in 1980. Reagan shows up. It's Pat's favorite president ever. Jimmy Carter, 12 years. Democrats control the country. Two terms of Reagan, he comes in in 1980, 1984, he blows out Walter Mondale. I think it was 49 to 1. The only state they won was Tim Waltz's favorite state, Minnesota. Walter Mondale, electoral college landslide. 525, 13 blowout. 12 years of Republicans and then Bill Clinton shows up. And if not for Ross Perot showing up talking about the flat tax, then that. George W. Bush, H.W. bush, he might have won that presidency. Who's the one person that George Bush will not talk about? He won't talk about raspberry. Bill Clinton shows up, boom, balances the budget. But the Democratic Party is going to have to have a radical transformation. They're going to take a long look in the mirror. How do you lose the unions, bro? How do you lose the Teamsters? These guys are in bed with the Democrats forever. The Teamsters, the uaw, the unions. Who did they endorse this year? Nobody. They're saying now, we're not playing this game this year. Common sense, reasonable and being reasonable, right? So enough with the races. And not everything is misogynist. The dei, the woke stuff. Brian Williams, you talked about that guy. Seems pretty reasonable. Seems pretty common sense. I would call that guy a JFK Democrat, maybe even a Clinton Democrat. A guy like that's looking at the modern Democratic Party and being like, what the hell is going on here? But there's going to have to be massive up people. Why? Because unlike 1992, the universities are woker than ever. The social media companies are woken ever. The lamestream media woker than ever. Hollywood woker than ever. You see, speaking of Hollywood, you saw what Sharon Stone said, said about basically how Americans are just uneducated, they're idiots. Out of touch. Not give a shout out to hall notes. But the most out of touch there is is what you're talking about with Gavin Newsom. Just to kind of put a ribbon on this thing. How when Biden didn't invite Elon Musk to the White House for the EV Summit. Hello. That's like, hey guys, we're going to have all the best players in all of sports show up today. You don't invite Patrick Mahomes, you don't invite Messi, you don't invite Luca, you don't invite LeBron Ohtani. Sorry, your invite got sent to Japan. My bad. Aaron Judge, how do you leave Elon Musk out of anything that has to.
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Patrick Bet-David
Do with double dumb?
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Vinny
But by the way, you know, you.
- [67:52]
Patrick Bet-David
Know, you do it intentionally. You have a point. A Ross Perot type of person has to come out a Ross Perot. But my concern is they've lost them all.
- [68:04]
Adam Sosnick
Well, they got Mark Cuban.
- [68:05]
Patrick Bet-David
They've lost. And Mark Cuban's not the guy he showed. He's not, he's not sexist comments. What's the word? There's a word that he's missing something. It's not the it. He has the it. He's missing something. He's missing the common sense.
- [68:20]
Vinny
No, he's missing the non lesbian glasses.
- [68:22]
Patrick Bet-David
No. You know what it is? He's missing the, the energy you give of people liking you.
- [68:29]
Adam Sosnick
I just don't think he's like the charisma. No, he, he's likability factor.
- [68:34]
Patrick Bet-David
You know what he is, he wants to, he wants to talk to you and make you feel dumb. And Ted Cruz does that. He's like the, he's got a little bit of Ted Cruz on the left.
- [68:47]
Adam Sosnick
Oh, you're talking about this community.
- [68:49]
Patrick Bet-David
Yeah, he's. He's a little bit of that community.
- [68:54]
Adam Sosnick
Wow.
- [68:55]
Patrick Bet-David
He just really thinks he's better than you and smarter than you and there's nothing wrong. Like Michael believed that. You know, Elon believes that. Trump definitely believes that. But their way of believing that matches their personality, that it comes across still in a way that's attractive. I think it's something he can never do anything about it. Says DNA. Personality. It's not attractive.
- [69:22]
Adam Sosnick
Can I tell you what it is?
- [69:23]
Patrick Bet-David
What's that?
- [69:24]
Adam Sosnick
Value attainment. If we were just value, I don't think we would have the same gravitas, Vinny.
- [69:31]
Vinny
Thank you.
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Adam Sosnick
Okay. In the ecosystem. Right here. There. And you know this as a comedian and Tom, you're one of the funniest guys ever. We get it. The power of making somebody laugh. The power of communicating somebody. Like, this guy's pretty cool. You ever see somebody, they're smart, they're on point, they're sharp, but they don't got the vibe. They don't got the charisma. You just don't resonate with them. Making somebody.
- [69:54]
Patrick Bet-David
What do they call? They call it the Riz.
- [69:56]
Adam Sosnick
They call it the Riz, baby. You get the Riz.
- [69:57]
Patrick Bet-David
Listen, man, I've been hanging out with the Riz. My kids are teaching me all these weird words.
- [70:02]
Adam Sosnick
Listen, you know who got the rizz?
- [70:03]
Patrick Bet-David
Who?
- [70:04]
Adam Sosnick
Dilly boy. And you know who's developing the wrist?
- [70:07]
Patrick Bet-David
He is as well. He's a dangerous.
- [70:09]
Adam Sosnick
But you know what I'm saying. Tico didn't have the wrist.
- [70:12]
Patrick Bet-David
Listen, I will. I will tell you the, the, the. The dynamic of speaking to an audience where all of it is there, where people. A part of it is. We're just regular people. A part of it is moral authority. A part of it is humor. A part of it is curiosity. A part of it is certain values and principles that you're not willing to compromise. And the audience says, well, I. I relate to that. Oh, great. You know, we ran the poll. What percentage of you guys think the word deer is offensive? 9% said it's offensive. Yeah. Really? 9% said is offensive. But you know what? You. What's impressive to the 9%?
- [70:47]
Adam Sosnick
Sorry, dear.
- [70:49]
Patrick Bet-David
Very.
- [70:50]
Adam Sosnick
Chris.
- [70:50]
Patrick Bet-David
Dear. 9%. By the way, I'm being honest with you guys. Sincerely. The fact that you took time away on a Thursday Thanksgiving morning to be with us still says you support the fact that we're having a conversation and I love you for it. Sincerely, I. I got a message. Somebody sent me a message, says, you know, I cannot believe that was the shittiest. I said, listen, don't you love the fact that you can message me on Manect and pay for it and I have to respond back and it allows you to talk to me directly? Don't you. Don't you love that that exists for you on Manex? Yes. We started laughing. Having a good time exchange this morning. Going back and forth. I think you want to say Something. Yeah.
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Vinny
So. And this is going into that wedge that you were talking about with Trump and then Elon, and I know this is a story that you have Pat the Mark Zuckerberg going to Mar a Lago. Yesterday I saw something and then I saw a clip where he's talking Tom, and Elon's like. Somebody's like, hey, you think you fight him? Elon, I have never seen. He's like, I will beat his ass any day, anytime, whenever you want. So I think him going there and I guess it was. Who's. Is it Jim Miller? Is it the new guy? That's the ball guy. Stephen Miller is coming in and he's recognizing that Trump is an agent of change and prosperity and that Zuck wants to be a part of it. And so I kind of feel like, how do you think Elon's taking that where this guy's coming in there?
- [72:09]
Adam Sosnick
Well, let's.
- [72:09]
Patrick Bet-David
Let's read this. Let's read this. Zuckerberg dines with Trump ad Mar a Lago and marking a notable meeting between a Facebook founder and former president who had been banned from the platform after January 6, 2021. Capitol Tackle met. A spokesperson confirmed Zuckerberg was invited to discuss the incoming administration with Trump's deputy chief of staff, Stephen Miller, stating Zuckerberg wants to support the national renewal of Americas. Under Trump's leadership, Zuckerberg has shifted toward a more passive, positive stance on Trump, praising his handling of an assassination attempt as badass earlier this year and accusing Biden administration of pressuring the Facebook to censor. By the way, this is AP News to censor COVID 19 content. Despite this, Trump recently mocked Zuckerberg on truth Social warning Zuckerbucks be careful while referencing election fraud claims. Okay, so this is. This is a couple things here to be thinking about on one end. And Tom, I'm going to come to you right after this. On one to me is Zuck is. We're forgetting that. How old was Zuck when he started Facebook, Rob?
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Adam Sosnick
He was like 21, from college.
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Patrick Bet-David
So. So how old was Zuck when he started? I'm actually curious. Was he 19 or 20? I'm trying to see the exact 19 years old. So he was 19 years old when he started Meta. Okay, so can you. Can you Google who are Zuckerberg's parents? Who are Zuckerberg's parents? Like, what do they do? I'm curious, is there anything about his parents? So Edward Zuckerberg, can you zoom in? Is there anything to find out who he is? Dentist father. Okay. How about his mother? Let's see what his mother. Zoom in.
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Adam Sosnick
Psychiatrist Karen.
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Patrick Bet-David
Okay. Exactly. And look at that picture right there. Mom, dad, and himself in the middle, right? That looks like a liberal family, right? Doing all the right things, going to Harvard. It looks like a family hard working, but at the same time, academia. You know, you got to go to school, you got to go to the right school, all that stuff. And we automatically expect this guy in his 20s to already know what's right and what's wrong. And then he happens to become a billionaire very early. Then this thing grows into the biggest community worldwide. How many users does Facebook have, Rob? I think it's like 2.2 billion. I may be off by a few hundred million, but it's. It's a lot of people.
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Adam Sosnick
90% of those are grandmas.
- [74:30]
Patrick Bet-David
How many? 3 billion users on Facebook. Active monthly users. Damn. Wow. That's active. Okay. 68.85 of the total monthly users log in on their mobile device monthly. That's a pretty impressive number.
- [74:46]
Adam Sosnick
But does that count? Instagram, WhatsApp.
- [74:51]
Patrick Bet-David
So then you go look at Instagram. Then you go look up. He owns WhatsApp. He owns all these companies. And what is his net worth today, Rob? If you type in his Mark Zuckerberg.
- [75:00]
Adam Sosnick
Net worth, 110 billion.
- [75:01]
Patrick Bet-David
I'm giving more than.
- [75:02]
Adam Sosnick
Maybe more than that.
- [75:03]
Patrick Bet-David
Well, 200. Wow. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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Adam Sosnick
Where was it two years ago?
- [75:07]
Patrick Bet-David
Oh, no, you're right. Yeah. No, no. Less than half of that. So $198 billion.
- [75:11]
Adam Sosnick
Crushing.
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Patrick Bet-David
Yeah, of course he is. He's a top five guy right now. So he's in there, he's like, hey, listen, I understand there's all these other guys. Just so you know, I'm the youngest guy worth $200 billion in the world. Bezos in his 50s. Musk is in his 50s. Gates is in his 60s, 70s. Buffett's in his 80s. So he's like, guys, I can also change.
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Tom Ellsworth
Larry's in his 70s.
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Patrick Bet-David
Larry's in the 70s. So he starts hanging out with Jiu Jitsu guys, UFC guys. You know, he changes. He starts looking at what's going on, and he's. By the way, one of the best things happens when. When your parents get a divorce, you learn about both families a lot. When you're going through a divorce, think about when you're the CEO, the owner of the biggest social media site worldwide, and both the left and the right are calling you, asking favors and trying to run campaigns. You know what you learn? You Learn both of them, how they approach you, which one approaches you and trying to negotiate with you, which one approaches you with threats. You understand what happened right there? So imagine you are learning. Dude, these guys on the left are threatening me. What is this all about? If I don't do this, we're going to do this. The other side is just trying to convince me. Yeah. So one is trying to sell me, the other one's trying to threaten me. I'm not part of the threatening community. I build a freaking. I've done more in my life than any one of you guys has done combined. You 2000 politicians combined don't have my net worth. What do you think? I brought a lot of value to the world here myself at a young age. So now he's evolving. I think Zuck right now, as much slack as everybody's given him. I think Zuck at 50 years old, maybe even sooner. Zuck's going to be a player. And when I tell you he's going to be a player, I think he's going to be a player. Unfortunately, right now he's getting criticized. They show the picture of Elon, and have you seen that picture where Elon and Trump, they're having the lunch, the McDonald burgers on the plane, and then Zuckerberg's outside the window. Have you guys seen that picture or no? Can you find that? Is there a picture with Zuckerberg? If you keep looking through them, you'll find it where he's outside the window. Outside he's trying to look in. It's actually a really, really phenomenal image to shake, to show that he's an outsider that wants to be on the inside. Oh, you should zoom those in to see if they're in there, the top one. Oh, so you see that window right there? Yeah. They put us the meme. Put Zuckerberg's picture out there. Like, hey, I'd love to be on the inside. I understand that. And. And it's going to hurt a little bit. I get it. Because Elon Musk went all in, and there's a risk when he went all in. And he deserves everything he's getting, everything he's getting. But Zuck made the right move when he wrote that letter to Jim Jordan. Zuck made the right move when he called out Biden. Zuck made the right move when he said that was a badass move by the president. And Zuck is himself kind of going through the evolution of recreating himself. And. And I'm okay with that. And by the way, on the flip side, you know what I love about Elon? I also love that Elon is staying paranoid. If Elon and Trump are speaking privately, you know what Elon's probably telling Trump, hey, don't trust them too early. Yep, let's not trust them too early. Yeah, let's not trust them too early. Let's not trust them too early. I'm convinced that is taking place. Go ahead, Tom.
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Tom Ellsworth
Well, I follow the logic and I agree with you on much of that. But I also think that Zuck is being led at gunpoint and it's guns that he's loaded. Over the course of Facebook there are five actions that all are incredibly threatening to meta in front of the federal government right now. One, the COVID censorship and the censorship of right wing media hearings are going to come up and there's oversight committees, things that they're. And down the street Google is being broken up. Then there's the FCC section 230 that is not going away. It's coming back and there will be hearings on that in the spring on section 230, Pat. And guess who's going to be back in front of Congress? Mark Zuckerberg. The federal FTC on the online ads and the monopoly that Facebook has. They are hearings coming and they've already told last week Google was called maybe we'll just spin Chrome off and do something else. It's the largest data gatherer that they have, the Chrome browser and they're like holy crap. That's number three. Number four, there are hearings that are going to go on on young girls and the addiction and hurting themselves and should there be limits on young girls and there's already state attorney generals that are out there that are putting that. Number four, number five, data use. When do you collect data and how do you store it and what and does the user know about that? Hearings are coming up next summer on that. Those five reasons could take five dinners to talk about. And I think Musk, you know, knows it, he understands it, he sees it. But Zuckerberg, I think Musk knows exactly why Zuckerberg would go in there. Zuckerberg needs to in addition to that letter, Jim Jordan, he needs to make nice with the new president and his head of the ftc. Head of the, the f. Ftc, fcc, the censorship hearings, the consumer protection agency and data use protection group. So there's a lot of reasons for Zuck at gunpoint to get this. We will find out.
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Patrick Bet-David
Can both be true at the same time?
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Tom Ellsworth
Huh?
- [80:26]
Patrick Bet-David
Can both be true at the same.
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Tom Ellsworth
Time, yes, they can be true at the same time and I'm anxious to see what shows up. Is it true or is it lobbying? Because he has to.
- [80:36]
Patrick Bet-David
What was. Who was elon Musk at 38 years old, 39 years old, 40 years old, who was he rocket making politically? Where was he? How did he feel about Trump when he was 38, 39, 40?
- [80:49]
Tom Ellsworth
I think he was. I think he was a. But he was a non. He wasn't a militant. He was a liberal. But he wasn't militant.
- [80:56]
Patrick Bet-David
No, he was never militant.
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Vinny
But was, was he active? But was he active? He was in. Hold on, was he active and literally taking down the President? Because let's not forget from the Zucker bucks, from the 200 and God knows how many million, all right, the damage has already been done. I think he's there. My opinion, he's there to kiss the ring. I mean, let's not forget about all the stories, Tom, you nailed it. All the COVID all the censorship, all the Hunter Biden, all that stuff. People like me, I want accountability, okay? I've been saying that forever. We deserve it. From the Pelosi's to the holding down, the National Guard to Russia collusion, all those people that were involved to Dr. Fauci, the people that have supported Trump from the beginning have gotten lost friends, lost relationships. I've lost opportunities because I was in Hollywood. We want accountability, okay? Because I talked to Rob about this when we came in. If Kamala Harris won, do you think that they'd give him any grace? Any grace? Would they stop any of these things like when they're talking about. I know we talked about it. He should Trump to be nice. Should pardon Hunter Biden and pardon Joe.
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Patrick Bet-David
Biden give who any grace?
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Vinny
The other side.
- [81:59]
Patrick Bet-David
You think Kamala would have grace? Would they have given Trump grace at all? Zero.
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Vinny
That's what I'm saying. So Pat, what I'm saying is we deserve, and I don't want retribution, I don't want them to, but we want a little bit of, okay, you messed up, there's your penalty. Hunter Biden, he belongs in prison. I know we're going to get there. That guy belongs in prison. And Joe Biden should have been impeached. We want some accountability, Dr. Mr. Fauci, we want that too. So a Zuckerberg. And you're right, Pat, it could kind of go both ways. But if for what he did, that letter to me is just going, hey, let me just. I'm sorry. They were telling me, the White House was telling Me.
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Patrick Bet-David
When he wrote the letter. When he wrote the letter. If you remember when we talked about on the podcast, Rob, if you can remember when he wrote the letter, just find the dates. It's Dear honorable Chairman Jordan. That's what the letter is, right?
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Vinny
Dear.
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Adam Sosnick
Did he say dear?
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Patrick Bet-David
I actually think he said dear, which is. Can you go to the letter? Can you. Is that the date? Can you just click on the images? Can you go on the images? Let's see how he opens it up.
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Vinny
Dear Congressman, your honorable Chairman.
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Patrick Bet-David
Chairman, Honorable Jim Jordan. Yeah. So when he wrote this letter, what's the date on it? See if it says the date on this.
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Tom Ellsworth
August 26.
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Patrick Bet-David
August 26. August 26, July 13. That is six weeks after Trump got assassin assassination attempted. Right. Okay. So when we responded to this, I said, this is Zuck's way of saying he thinks Trump's winning. If you remember how we reacted to this, that was my position that I took. Okay. But also at the same time, none of us knew. Let's face it, guys, on August 26th, everybody here wasn't Trump's winning. Let's not get it twisted.
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Vinny
I wasn't 100%.
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Patrick Bet-David
No. Everybody here was like, you know, 51, 49. Right?
- [83:50]
Vinny
Yeah, yeah.
- [83:51]
Patrick Bet-David
And remember, this was still the honeymoon stages of. When did they announce Kamala, can you. Can you.
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Tom Ellsworth
July 21st.
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Patrick Bet-David
July 21st. Is that the date?
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Tom Ellsworth
Okay, wasn't that. Or is that the Biden letter? Is that the comma.
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Patrick Bet-David
So let's find out what the exact date. I'm trying to get sequencing down with this. I just want to know when they announced Biden stepping down. 21st. Okay, so July 21st, you got a spot on. Okay, so when you look at that, exactly five weeks later, he writes the letter. Five weeks later, on every poll, she is still ahead. And they were like, she's going to win. She's going to this, she's going to that. Okay. Yeah.
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Tom Ellsworth
It was the anti Biden bounce. She's our girl.
- [84:29]
Patrick Bet-David
Sure. Okay. So he wrote that letter. Do you know how risky of a letter that is to write? Let me explain to how risky the letter that is to write. Let's say he writes that letter. There was another one or two attempts on Trump.
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Vinny
Yeah.
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Patrick Bet-David
If one succeeds, Kamala wins, what happens to him for the next four years with the left? Do you know what they do to him on Facebook? Oh, they will destroy him and humiliate him and do everything they can to hurt him. It's better to write that letter after somebody wins because it's safer. The Safer time to write the letter is after November 5th. The safer time. Okay. You understand what I'm saying? Okay. The risky time to write it is when five weeks after Kamala's announced and America's done with Biden after the debate with Trump, which was embarrassing, and the assassination attempt, to realize that Trump can. Biden cannot be Trump. They bring Kamala and Young Fresh, all this stuff, right? He writes this letter. I'm convinced that he is going through the evolution himself. I'm convinced when they wrote that letter, I guarantee you some people in his camp on his board who are on the left said, don't write this letter. Imagine you have a board you're in. Where's he based out of Silicon Valley? I don't know where Facebook is. I'm going to say it's somewhere in the Cupertino area. What percentage of his board you think are left? Can you type in Meta Board? Type in Meta Board of Directors. Meta Board of Directors.
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Vinny
I'm sorry, I'm going to say 100%.
- [86:05]
Patrick Bet-David
I'm telling you this, so if you zoom in a little bit. Okay, let's go through who it is.
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Vinny
All right, so, well, we know.
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Patrick Bet-David
Go up. Let's see. Javier Olivan. Tom, do you know Javier or. No? Zoom in a little bit to see what his background is and what he did see. Prior to that, he was a product manager at Siemens Mobile, Functional Georgia. Okay, let's see who the next guy is. Nick. President Global Affairs. President Global affairs at Meta. What's his background prior to this? He was UK Parliament in 2005, European Commission, five years European Parliament, Liberal Democrat Party. In 2007, he became the leader of the Liberal Democrat Party. 2007, the Deputy Prime Minister in the UK. Okay, left, Susan Lee. You just saw Susan Lee. That's the lady that Tom was talking about who was involved in the political stuff. Isn't this the same lady? Okay, go back.
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Vinny
So she might be your cousin.
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Patrick Bet-David
So this is. Where was she at? Finance and business planning and Treasury. She joined the company. Vice President, 2000. She was an investment bank in Morgan Stanley, Nexa. The likelihood of 80% of these guys being liberal. Okay, Andrew went to Harvard. Chris Cox. I don't know what his background is, what they're doing. The point is, okay, Stanford, 80% of these guys are probably liberal. So now imagine you're going up there saying, guys, I want to send this letter out. What do you think they're telling him?
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Vinny
Are you sure, Tom?
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Patrick Bet-David
What do you think the board is telling Zuck?
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Tom Ellsworth
So Zuck Was trying to find. I just sent you two clips, Rob, and if you could find the one from Wired. So Wired, fair to say, Bible of Silicon Valley, you know, not bombastic. They carefully research stories. Well respected publication Facebook had been dealing with the ire of the Democrats for a while. And I do not believe for a second that it was lost on Zuckerberg that in many ways he was a man without a country. Wired. Here's how Facebook actually won Trump the Presidency back. Back 2016. People were pissed at him because they were trying to do all the Russian collusion stuff, but people thought Facebook didn't do enough. It actually had helped Trump influence voters through Facebook and they were pissed off about it. And then go to the next clip. Rob, this is very interesting. There's the one that was right there. I just. That got those guys right there. Politico. Angry Democrats pose rising risk for Facebook. So Zuckerberg has felt the heat from the Dems that felt that he didn't stand in line enough. And so I think his board would have looked at it and say, Mark, you know, the Dems have been upset with us for a while. I don't know if you want to write this letter exactly.
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Patrick Bet-David
You know, validate my point even more, Tom, because here's what happens. So, Tom, let me explain.
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Tom Ellsworth
That's what I was doing.
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Patrick Bet-David
I know that.
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Tom Ellsworth
I was giving you facts.
- [89:01]
Patrick Bet-David
No, I. And I, I love that. But the point I'm trying to make is I was thinking maybe you were going to take a different angle.
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Tom Ellsworth
No, no, no.
- [89:06]
Patrick Bet-David
My concern is this, Tom. We're in the room. You've been in a room where people disagree with me and I'm gonna win this thing.
- [89:11]
Tom Ellsworth
She's got a bounce.
- [89:12]
Patrick Bet-David
Why write the letter? I was in a board meeting, guys. It was like, I'm going against everybody, against me. I'm like, what the effort you guys talking about? And it was three hours extended into a longer meeting sometimes.
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Tom Ellsworth
Or the COVID policy discussion.
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Patrick Bet-David
Well, it was. That was one of them. Yes, for sure. That was one of them. That was the nastiest one. But for you to know, your board, your investors are not going to support you writing that letter and you still write it and you post it. I don't know, man. You got to applaud that. You gotta applaud that. And for me, I don't know what he's going through. A recreating of himself and rebuilding of himself. I'm. I'm actually curious to know what he ends up turning into. And by the way, now that Common sense. Community. Because to me, it's common sense. It's not Republicans. They want to say Republican. To me, common sense. Puberty blockers are bad. Under 18. Common sense. You want to do it above 18. Look, I don't agree with it, but go ahead and do what you want to do with it, right? Common sense. LGBTQ being taught too early to school, to kids, it's bad. Common sense. Not allowing Tesla to do what they want to do and targeting them in your state and driving business owners out is bad. Right? Gas taxing people over and over and over and over again. Driving, it's bad. Right? These are bad. So common sense. Musk, common sense. Rogan, common sense. Zuck, as you age, more common sense. Trump, common sense. Tulsi. Common sense. Bobby. Common sense. Vivek. Common sense. So this is the part where right now, you know, the positioning of what's happening. You now have Google and YouTube over here. You know, I don't know, I just think this is a. I'm glad Trump's team reached out. Stephen Miller, if he sees this, you guys are strategic moves you're making. Very impressive. Zuck. Frickin phenomenal for going out there and sitting down. And Musk, please stay paranoid because you need to hold everybody. Someone in the room needs to be the guy that's going to be like, yeah, I don't know yet, I don't know yet. That's okay. Someone needs to play that flag carrier role. Go ahead and give your thoughts, and I'm going to move on to the next story.
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Adam Sosnick
I think we just got to give Zuck a little credit for growing and evolving. I mean, you highlighted the fact that he started Facebook out of his Dorm when he's 19 years old. He just turned 40, by the way. He's a father of three daughters. He's a girl dad. So for 20 years, this guy's been in the limelight. Billionaire. Of course he's gonna grow. Of course he's gonna evolve. He's been in front of everybody his whole life, his whole adult life. So you talked about, you know, how Dylan's got the Riz, Patico's developing the Riz, you know, the Rizzo. I would say that you think Zuck had Riz when he was 19, 20 years old, he started Facebook because he couldn't meet any girls. That was the whole premise of it. So you see these days, Zuck specifically, you know, now he's doing ufc, he's fighting. He's saying things like when Trump got shot in the face and he Got up, quote, unquote. That was one of the most badass things I've ever seen with, actually with Emily Chang, Adrian's old flame. I'll tell you about that. But at.
- [92:28]
Patrick Bet-David
We're.
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Adam Sosnick
We're at model volleyball in. In south beach this past year, right? You know, model volleyball. You showed up. Who walks by out of nowhere? Mark Zuckerberg. We're like, did Zuck just walk by? Yeah, that was Zuck.
- [92:42]
Patrick Bet-David
What.
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Adam Sosnick
What is this guy doing in South Beach? He's growing, he's developing. You got to give him credit for that. By the way, I was right two years ago. Rob, I don't know if you had this Facebook stock when they changed their name to Plummet. You remember this pbd. I know you were just huge fan of the NFT world at that point. And they changed their name to meta, and everyone's NFTs. It's every like that. Facebook stocks plummeted down to 92, 93 two years ago. This guy's wealth basically was cut in half.
- [93:12]
Patrick Bet-David
I'll go to the next story. Adam, I want story.
- [93:14]
Adam Sosnick
It's 6x574.
- [93:16]
Patrick Bet-David
Let's go. We got a few minutes to go into it. We got. We got a few more stories to get into. Okay. All right. So while we're talking about this, we can go to. Fired CBS reporter reveals bosses blocked Elon Musk's interview. Okay, this is a New York Post story. Now, think about it. Your job is to land big interviews, to bring a lot of eyeballs to the company. So it's like Vinnie text me, says, hey, Pat, I got an interview with Musk for unusual suspects. What do you think we should do? Oh, hell no, we're not. Vinnie says, I got an interview with Hillary Clinton. Vinnie says, I got an interview with Dylan Mulvaney. Okay, I'm going to be interview. Go do it. Right. But what does CBS do? A very different thing. Rob, is she explaining in this clip on what happened when she wanted to interview? Go ahead, go to play this clip.
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Rob
I had conversations with some of the reporters connected to the Twitter files, and I was in my head thinking that there might be an opportunity to tell that story on CBS News News. We had a number of topics under discussion. They didn't go as far as we had hoped, but at the end of the day, this opportunity to interview Elon Musk was developing. So I went to the CBS executives and I said, this is the opportunity that we have. He's saying, I want to do it live and on my platform. He's one of the most influential human beings on the planet. And the reaction from the executives was, well, we can't do it live. And I was like, what do you mean we can't do it live? I was like, well, we don't know what he's going to say. I was like, I'm thinking, isn't that the point of journalism? You don't know what the person's going to say. Well, you know, we have to. It has to be taped. We have to have the ability to edit it. It has to be on our platform. We have to control the platform. We talked at one point about whether we could do it sort of like a simulcast between the streaming network and maybe X. But everything just got shut down. It's one of the biggest interviews you could ever have. I felt so ashamed, frankly, that I never went back to Elon Musk and said, listen, they want to do it, but they've set all these conditions on it. I couldn't do that. This is someone whose DNA is free speech. And how do you tell someone who's committed to free speech that your network can only do it taped and only if they edit it and it can only be on their platform?
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Patrick Bet-David
That's it. So you can pause it right there. This. Okay, I'll come to you first, Vinnie, before I give my thoughts. Tell me, what do you think with this?
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Vinny
This is of the few report. Like they're actual journalists and actual reporters. They're not political activists. How great. And you know who she is, too. She's the one. I think that. Rob, let me. If I'm wrong, she warned us of the Black Swan event that should be coming sooner or later. And then, Pat, she gets into the fact that, you know, she has it. There's a clip that I sent you, Rob. She holds up, Pat, she holds up the Hunter Biden contents on a little drive in her hand, and she goes, I had this. I had to. I wanted to run with it. And they said no, because we have to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And that's the problem. And that's when I go back to the accountability. All those people, including Hunter Biden. Can we play this really quick, Matt? Rob, you could go, yeah, this is hard talk. It's not that long, is it?
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Rob
Broadcast a story about the Hunter Biden laptop after the midterm elections in 2022. We commissioned a forensic review and look, she has it. Scumbag boys got a copy of the laptop data. All of it. I have it here still. I went to a lot of effort to get the cleanest copy of the laptop data, the same data that was provided to the FBI. Because I didn't want to have any professional journalistic risk for CBS News. I wanted this thing to be totally locked down. When we did the story, we did it after the midterms. I argued against that because it was ready before the midterms. And my training is that you should always do the story when it's ready to go. You should not be dictated by the political cycle. Once we got the laptop story on the morning news, I felt that there was so much there that we could still do. For example, in the text messages, there's unfortunately the use of the N word.
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Patrick Bet-David
The liberal.
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Rob
Use of liberal. And I thought this was told that it was not something Hunter saying the.
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Vinny
N word a bunch of times. Emails. And then, and then, and then she was saying that there was emails from Joe Biden on that laptop. So that goes to my point of. I mean, I shout out to. For Katherine for being an actual journalist and reporter, but it's the accountability. And I think if we let these things go, they're going to keep doing them over and over and over and over again. That's my. That's. I want, I want somebody to get in trouble for something.
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Patrick Bet-David
It's not, It's. You know what it is? It's more than trouble, Vinnie. There's something. Nothing more painful than being in trouble. You know what it is?
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Vinny
Huh?
- [98:18]
Patrick Bet-David
Being bankrupt, Going out of business.
- [98:19]
Vinny
Yeah, for sure.
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Patrick Bet-David
That's what it is. Yeah. And. And look, when. Whenever you. We go out to dinner, okay, if my kids waiter comes, you're with us all the time, they have to say thank you. Can I please this?
- [98:35]
Vinny
Every time.
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Patrick Bet-David
Every time, right? And Brooklyn says no papa, no papa, no time out.
- [98:40]
Vinny
No time out first.
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Patrick Bet-David
Yeah, but the point is, if you're not coming from a respectful, grateful place and you forget the reason why we have this is because of America and all this stuff, we're going to have a problem. Right? We have to start off with gratitude. The moment you forget that the salary you're getting paid is because of people that are tuning in and they're walking away because you lost your journalistic integrity. Because it's all about pandering to an audience that you don't want to share the other side of the story and give your perspective. And you, you are so called cbs, abc, NBC, cnn, all of these guys that are going this route. This is why yesterday TMZ did a story and John Shahidi, who is an absolute stud of A guy is on TMZ talking about podcasts, what the podcasting game did for 2024 elections. I think TMZ wrote a story yesterday. If you go to a story about podcasters with Trump and if you just tell it in Google, it should come up. But they're talking about what's going on with podcasters and how you type in TMZ podcast Trump. It should come up as a. Right there. That's the one right there. Nelk Boys. Yeah. So I pitched Trump on podcasters. White House Press needs a shake up. Nelk Boys manager. If you go a little bit lower, that's the guy right there at the top. If you want to give him. He's a stud of a guy, Persian guy, but him and his brother Sam are phenomenal. You obviously know how I feel about salmon. These guys are funny as hell. Go a little lower. So he's explaining. He joins tmz. He's the guy that manages Nelk Boys and many others. I think the obon is part of the program as well. Go a little bit lower. He's breaking down. If you can even play him well, he breaks down. The fact that podcasters are changing the game. The interviewers on podcasting is the direction it's going to now. Right. That's today. Vinnie, go to 27, 28. So the credibility mainstream during 2024 election went where here? What happened to podcasters up went this way. Do you realize if this goes like this now, what do you think is going to be in 27? Like this?
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Vinny
Nope.
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Patrick Bet-David
No, it could go like this.
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Vinny
Yeah, they're gone.
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Patrick Bet-David
And if it goes like this, go ahead. Kamala Newsom, Josh, whoever, go run your campaign and go through the SAFE podcast. Go ahead, do that and see what happens. Go ahead. Don't go talk to all these other. See how you do. Go and see how you do. And the other guys. Vivek, everybody. I don't care. Your name is Pacman. I'll come to you. Your name is Cenk. I'll come to you. Your name is Joe. I'll come to you. He's not done Joan yet. Although I think Vivek should go on Joe and that'll be a very good podcast. I'd like to see that happen with Vivek being on Joe Rogan. I think it'd be phenomenal. I think Joe liked the podcast with Mark and recent. I think Joe and Vivek would be explosive. That'd be a great podcast to do and it'd be interesting if it's. Anyways but the point is 20, 27, 20, 28, it's game changer. So what are these guys going to do? They have to change, or else you're done. You don't have a choice. If you don't change, you're gone. If you don't change, the market's not going to. Not going to forgive you for you not making adjustment. That's worse than, hey, you know, they got to be held accountable. Market's going to hold them accountable, Tom.
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Tom Ellsworth
So imagine a person that has a back injury, and, you know, you got to go in for the surgery, but you don't want everything the surgery entails. You're going to lose mobility in your back. They're going to fuse a couple vertebrae, but they tell you that's what you need to do. And you're going to be different going forward with mobility and your ability to work out, but that's what you have to do. But instead, you go home and you ice it. You put on icy hot patches, you limit your workouts, and you start taking OxyContin. Pretty soon, you're addicted to OxyContin, right? It's a legal painkiller. And you go to one doctor, says, hey, Denny, I've given you two prescriptions in a row. You really got to be careful with this. I only gave it to you because you were to give you pain relief so that then you could get to your surgery. But if you tell me you're not doing your surgery, I can't give you more prescriptions because I'm going to make you into an addict.
- [102:43]
Patrick Bet-David
Vinnie doesn't take Oxy.
- [102:45]
Tom Ellsworth
Now, hang on.
- [102:45]
Patrick Bet-David
Watch.
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Tom Ellsworth
Watch.
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Patrick Bet-David
I don't want the audience to send.
- [102:48]
Tom Ellsworth
Like, Dixie doesn't. He does not.
- [102:50]
Patrick Bet-David
Doesn't take Oxy, but go ahead.
- [102:51]
Tom Ellsworth
But, yeah, those little blue triangles are not Oxy. Definitely blue magic.
- [102:56]
Patrick Bet-David
Well, go ahead.
- [102:56]
Tom Ellsworth
Yeah. So why. What am I saying? Now watch this right now. Cable as a technology is drifting down.
- [103:05]
Patrick Bet-David
Yes.
- [103:05]
Tom Ellsworth
Older people using cable. So they already have problems with audience just on access technology. They have problems, and they have problems on message. People don't want what they're serving. Right. So what does CNN do? Oxycontin, it's called everybody gets a 50% pay cut. Everybody gets a 50% pay cut. The viewership is down. We got problems with cable. Everybody gets a pay cut. That's oxycontin. C msnbc. Hey, Rachel, we need to. Yeah, I understand. I'll take a $5 million pay cut. But she did last week from 30 to 25. I don't know if it was exactly last week, but the news leaked and then it was confirmed.
- [103:44]
Patrick Bet-David
By the way, I don't know if it's a pay cut because she went back down to just doing a once a week.
- [103:49]
Tom Ellsworth
Exactly.
- [103:49]
Patrick Bet-David
They're overpaying her. Yeah.
- [103:50]
Vinny
If you don't know what.
- [103:53]
Patrick Bet-David
What business does that?
- [103:54]
Tom Ellsworth
But let me get to it. It's all OxyContin. They're trying to save money, but they're not going in for the back surgery. That's going to change them. They're not going into change. They're not saying this takes surgery. We have to do this. We need a more moderated approach at cnn. They're just giving everybody a pay cut and hoping that the cable shift doesn't happen.
- [104:15]
Patrick Bet-David
Can I ask.
- [104:16]
Tom Ellsworth
They're not changing a damn thing.
- [104:17]
Patrick Bet-David
Are you indirectly telling Vinnie and I that we should go for the back surgery?
- [104:22]
Vinny
Is that what you're saying? Because, you know, you're saying that, Tom.
- [104:24]
Patrick Bet-David
I mean, it's like public information. I don't want the.
- [104:27]
Tom Ellsworth
I'm saying that the liberal think tank and the bubble that is liberal thought in this country. And the mainstream media cannot look in the mirror and say, you know what we effed up. And guess what, guys? We need more mainstream coverage. We need more voices. I'm not putting those bastards on this network. That's what they're thinking.
- [104:47]
Patrick Bet-David
I am.
- [104:48]
Tom Ellsworth
And they're dying.
- [104:49]
Patrick Bet-David
I'm telling you, Vinnie. I'm telling you, Vinnie, the market never lies. You can't fool the market for too long. Look, when we started like this, this game that we're in right now with what we're doing, right When Yesterday guy comes in, we're talking about potentially doing something with soccer locally and Fort Lauderdale. A lot of people have interest kids, soccer. Hey, Pat, can we start a school, an academy? You know, we want some. Some of our kids to come and spend time with you guys. I want to. We're gonna maybe do something first. Test for a parent or their parents to come with us with their child and spend a day and a half with us. Like imagine spouse, parent has to be there and he can bring your child with you. You have to be present together because we're going to talk to the parents and we're going to talk to the kids. You know, who knows what we do down there? This is one of the biggest things that people are asking about parents and kids to get involved and come to our new campus. You're in a meeting yesterday, right? When we're doing this late at night. Last Night. And I said to these guys, smart guys, what if. Very smart guys. What if we do this and what if we do that and what if we build this? I said, listen, here's how this thing works. I said, what you're telling me is an academy here. That's step number eight. What is step number one? Test to see if there's a market for it. PBD podcast. Okay. We started at first. What was it? What's it called? Unusual Suspects. At first it was called Unusual Suspect because we own the domain Unusual suspects.
- [106:09]
Adam Sosnick
We did 10 episodes called the unusual.
- [106:11]
Patrick Bet-David
And then we switched to PBD.
- [106:13]
Adam Sosnick
Show them, David Podcast.
- [106:15]
Patrick Bet-David
Something, something. And then we went PBD show.
- [106:16]
Adam Sosnick
Yeah.
- [106:17]
Patrick Bet-David
I don't know what it was.
- [106:18]
Adam Sosnick
Like three.
- [106:19]
Patrick Bet-David
Change the name like five times. What it was you may be expecting. So anyways, eventually, the Unusual Suspects. Yeah. So.
- [106:29]
Vinny
Wow.
- [106:29]
Patrick Bet-David
And by the way, we've had such interesting moments, but going back to it, I said, I don't know if this is going to do anything. I have no idea what it's going to do. Right. And then you see the. You see the picture, the image. Rob, if you have that, that says the episode.
- [106:44]
Adam Sosnick
Episode 30 was. Look at.
- [106:46]
Vinny
Look at Adam. You look like you voted for Hillary and Joe Biden right there. Look at that photo. You look like you voted for everybody right there.
- [106:55]
Tom Ellsworth
So are you heavier?
- [106:57]
Patrick Bet-David
Adam, you look at this and all of a sudden we're like, let's see what this does. I, at that point by Tim, and has already got a few million subscribers. 3 million subscribers. But I want to talk politics.
- [107:07]
Vinny
Yes.
- [107:08]
Patrick Bet-David
But it's risky. Yeah. So we tested it. What does the market say four years later?
- [107:12]
Vinny
We love it. We want it.
- [107:13]
Patrick Bet-David
Market says, we love it. Okay. We love it. We. By the way, that's Batman in the back. And the old Norway guy, Kai, was a great book recommender.
- [107:22]
Adam Sosnick
So anyways, Tom, this is your first appearance back 45.
- [107:25]
Patrick Bet-David
We do this and then we test. What does the market say? We want more. And it grows. Okay. But let me tell you, you can also put up a video and put up an episode that you're ecstatic about, and you're like, this thing's gonna blow up.
- [107:40]
Vinny
Yeah.
- [107:40]
Patrick Bet-David
And the market says, nah, this sucked. We don't like it. Right. Because sometime when you have victory after victory after victory, you're like, oh, my God, we're this. And then you feel like you walk on water and the market's going to be like, what was this all about? Okay, relax. Go back to creating good content. You got a little Bit lazy, right? That's what happened to cbs, abc, NBC and all these other guys. This is a permanent thing. Market never lies and it's a publicly humiliating loss that they're going through if they don't adjust. This continues. Let me go to a story because Adam had a lot of insight on this next story from personal experience that he wants to share with everybody else. So ex Google CEO Eric Schmidt warns the perfect AI girlfriends could worsen loneliness for young men. Oh no, Rob, if you got this clip, I think it's very important. Play this clip and then Adam, I'm going to come to you. Go ahead, Rob.
- [108:35]
Layla Micklewait
There's lots of evidence that there's now a problem with young men. In many cases, the path to success for young men has been, shall we say, been made more difficult because they're not as educated as the women are. Now remember, there are more women in college than men and many of the traditional paths are no longer as available. And so they turn to the online world for enjoyment and sustenance, but also because of the social media algorithms, they find like minded people who ultimately radicalize them either in a horrific way like terrorism, or in the kind of way that you're describing where they're just maladjusted. This is a good example of an unexpected problem of existing technology. So now imagine that the AI girlfriend or boyfriend, but let's use AI girlfriend as an example, is perfect, perfect visually, perfect emotionally. And the AI girlfriend in this case captures your mind as a man to the point where she or whatever it is takes over the way you thinking you're obsessed with her. That kind of obsession is possible especially for people who are not fully formed. Parents are going to have to be more involved for all the obvious reasons. But at the end of the day, parents can only control what their sons and daughters are doing within reason. We've ended up again using teenagers as an example. We have all sorts of rules about age of maturity, 16, 18, what have you, 21 in some cases. And yet you put a 12 or 13 year old in front of one of these things and they have access to every evil as well as every good in the world, and they're not ready to take it. So I think the general question of are you mature enough to handle it, sort of the general version of your AI girlfriend example is unresolved.
- [110:26]
Patrick Bet-David
Adam.
- [110:27]
Adam Sosnick
Yeah, I mean this is going to be the conversation of our times of what the hell is going on with young men. You know, there's a famous phrase out there in the manosphere. It's Chase excellence or pursue excellence.
- [110:39]
Patrick Bet-David
I'm sorry to interrupt you. Let me just set you. I'm going to come back to, because this is the part that he didn't say that I want to read, which makes the story deeper and then I want to get your commentary. So Schmidt referenced grown risks, citing a Florida lawsuit where 14 year old boy Sewell Setzer III committed suicide after an AI chat bot girlfriend sent obsessive messages and told them to come home. Schmidt stressed teenagers are not ready to handle complex AI powered technology, adding that younger users are exposed to every evil as well as every good in the world. Go ahead.
- [111:10]
Adam Sosnick
Yeah, I didn't hear about that part. So that makes it the story even more tough. Tougher to digest the. You know, as I was saying, there's a famous phrase out there that's young men should chase excellence or pursue excellence, not women. Because as a man, it takes time to become that dude. We've had these conversations before. Now what I would tell a young man who's obsessed with a real girl, like, oh my God, this guy. I'd be like, dude, relax, it's not your time. Now young men are becoming obsessed with women that don't even exist. These are AI completely made believe chat bots and this young man took his own life. Yeah, because of, because of, because of the comments.
- [111:51]
Patrick Bet-David
Yes. Obsessive comment by an AI girlfriend.
- [111:53]
Adam Sosnick
They don't even chat bots. Yeah, so look, I've worked in the nightlife world before, you know, if a, if a group of 21 year old girls show up, 24 year old girls show up, Let them in, let's go. All good. No problem. If they, if a group of 21 year old boys show up, they better be buying a table or know somebody in the inside or they're getting turned away. Nobody wants them here. They're kryptonite to a club. So that feeling, I remember the feeling that I went with my boys, my college buddies. What's up, man? We're gonna go out in South Beach. We have no money, we're in college. We show up the door guy, French dude, douchebag. He's like, what do you want? Heel. I was like, yeah, we're gonna go into like, who you with? I was like, yeah, just my friends. You're buying a table, $2,000. I'm like, no, we got no money. He's like, get the out the field. That's how young men are made to feel. But now you show up, you're 40 years old. They're like, oh, right, this way, come on in. Or you're with your friends, you're with your crew because you're a man of status. You've established.
- [112:50]
Patrick Bet-David
What's the point with this?
- [112:51]
Adam Sosnick
So the point is this. Young men are going to take time to become the person that they need to become. When you're 16, 18, and you're obsessed with trying to get women, you're thinking, oh, my God, it's the end of the world. Mary doesn't like me. Your time is going to come, but it's going to take 5, 10, 15 years. Even Mark Zuckerberg right now is 40 years old, finally developing riz. That's what it comes down to. But you know, this guy, this conversation. Eric Schmidt knows a little bit about what's going on in the online world. He was the CEO of Google. The conversation he had with Scott. Scott Gallows. Exactly. Performer. Social media has ruined dating for young men. Dating apps ruined dating for young men because they have no credibility. They have no social score, they have no status. Then they also hear things, juxtapose things like the future is female, who runs the world, girls, all these types of things. Oh, if you're masculine, you have toxic masculinity. All these things are being thrown in young men's faces. And then on top of that, 40 years ago it was 60% of men went to college, 40% women. These days, it's the exact opposite. So everything is being the patriarchy, men, toxic masculinity, it's not okay to be a man. What I would suggest is this. Young men need to play the long game and they need to understand that it's going to take time. Last thing, if you're a parent out there, get your nerdy ass kid off the video games. They need to get out there and interact with the real world or this. Unfortunately, this story is going to become a little bit more pervasive.
- [114:18]
Patrick Bet-David
Tom, I'm going to come to you as a parent. Well, as a parent, I got boys and girls, you got girls as a parent, how do you process this?
- [114:24]
Tom Ellsworth
Well, first of all, I was waiting for Eric Schmidt to say as happens on Facebook, he didn't add that. And because he's former CEO of Google from down the street, he could have thrown some shade right there with those three little words, as on Facebook. And so I get to that. As a parent, you have to pull your kids back from the digital fake into the physical real. And the physical real is talking eye to eye, looking people in the eye, talking to people. In your study group, I talked to Bailey about this. Right. And I've talked to Brooke about this. It's like, hey, all the social media online is fake affirmation. It's fake. It's not real. Your real engagement is with your teammates on your swim team, your teammates on your golf team, teammates working on yearbook. And you're going to find people that have things going on. You'll be able to look them in the eye and you'll be able to engage with them. And I have been putting digital guardrails around my daughters for a long time, and I think now they see it playing out because they see friends at school where it is on the other edge. And as a parent, if you're not involved and you're not focused, you're. You're in trouble. And you know where it starts, Parents, it starts with your patience because you're losing patience and you're stressed because your kids crying and doing the things at five years old. So you give them a mini game to play. You're giving them a pacifier. And maybe they do need a little distraction there, but you better manage it because that big pacifier when they're 12, 13 years old is social media. And it's toxic and deadly.
- [116:06]
Patrick Bet-David
By the way, if I can advise anybody that's watching this here, one of the things that I think a lot of time when people think about time, they think about, oh, how can I raise money? How can I. Business, biz, biz, biz, biz, all this a biz, dog biz, doc, biz. Doc, why don't you and your wife manek Tom and ask questions about parenting? This is one of the conversations we have all the time. We, Tom and I and our family, we made certain new decisions a few months ago, I would say six months ago, Collectively, together, we read a book. We're open.
- [116:35]
Tom Ellsworth
Open to ideas that are good.
- [116:37]
Patrick Bet-David
Yeah, we are on the same wavelength when it comes down to raising kids. Where if Tom takes my Tico or Dylan or whatever, they go together for three, four days, I'm not even thinking about what they're doing. They're in good hands, right? Because I know our values and principles are the same. I had this girl here the other day, Layla Micklewait. Rob. Did I say her name correctly?
- [116:55]
Tom Ellsworth
Correct.
- [116:56]
Patrick Bet-David
Phenomenal. I had such a good time talking to her. She's the one that got the 2.33 million signatures to petition to shutdown pornhub.com because of the amount of porn that they had underage under. You know, out of 56 million videos that on pornhub.com a story that came up. That's her, by the way. Layla Micklewade. Phenomenal lady. And if you can pull up that New York Times story, the other New York Times story that we talked about, by the way, very, very weird New York Times story. A child of pornhub. This is. This is the child, the children of pornhub telling stories of how these kids end up in pornhub. One mother. Rob, do you have the intro for the interview tomorrow? Maybe we can even show the intro. You have the intro, they send it to you. It's on our text.
- [117:42]
Adam Sosnick
I got it.
- [117:42]
Patrick Bet-David
If you can pull it up. The intro, Vinnie is disturbing. One of the top things that we discussed, her and I together, is the fear parents have to have serious conversations with their kids. And I brought up a couple things with her. One of the things is, you know, about a year ago, I don't know if you guys remember, we talked about this. Maybe we talked about one of my. One of my kids was a little bit drifting and I had a conversation with them one morning and I pulled them aside. Maybe you'll remember this. I don't want to name kids, so don't drop any names and all this other stuff. I'm just saying one of my kids. And I said, hey, I'm getting the feeling you're drifting a little bit. And we sat down and we had a one hour meeting together. And by the way, when you want to have serious conversations with your kids, if you're intentional, they're going to give you 100 attention. This guy's looking at me fully. And what is drifting? Humberto? If you can send a video to Rob, it's not going to be here. Rob, it's in a text. We have it. It's an intro that was sent to approve. Humberto can send it to you. So I said, you're drifting. He says, what's drifting? So I said, let me show you this clip from the book. What is the book? What is the book? The what is the book? A drifting book by that lady. Oh, my God. What is this book called? First time I read this book, I couldn't put it down. Book on drifting. It's a book that's linked to Napoleon Hill, who wrote it many, many years ago. And she explains this book. Somebody, can you please just text me if you're watching this, I know somebody's watching the same path. How'd you forget this book? You know what book it is? I tell him, I want you outwitting the devil. That's the one Outwitting the devil. And I had him read this book, and I had him read an excerpt from this book, okay? And in the book, it explains you want to destroy your life. You have to be aware when you're drifting. And what is drifting? Drifting is just like when your life, you're just kind of like drifting, like.
- [119:32]
Vinny
A car going off the road slowly stuff, you die, right?
- [119:36]
Patrick Bet-David
So I said, I'm getting the feeling life is just regular for you, and you're not. Not investing in yourself in certain things that you need to be. You know, what's one of the things that really changes idea? You know, how you go up to me, you're like, hey, something's happened with you. We put him in kickboxing, and he goes five days a week. He'd go every day if the trainers were available for him. Let me tell you what's happened to this kid's confident. When you have boys, folks, you have to find a way to develop their confidence in a different way than girls. My opinion, it's a different way of developing confidence with boys than girls. Both of them are going to be needed. And if you choose to have more than one kid, you have to still find a way to build up their identities. They all deserve the identity to be built. Even though when you're like, sometimes you don't have time or whatever that's going on, you have to find a way to do it. Find a way to get your kids to be involved in something that they're improving in that gives them confidence. You got to find a way to do that. You know, when you're all of a sudden being complimented for the work that you're doing, it's a confidence booster. The other day, we publicly promoted Rob. We think Rob's done such a phenomenal job here that we publicly promoted him. And by the way, Rob is a guy that, you know is a behind a screen guy sometimes, but unusual. He's not. Rob's a talent. Rob's a comedian. Rob's phenomenal at what he does as well. And we love Rob and we publicly recognize Robin for the last Rob three and a half years. When. When I'm giving you feedback, I'm like, hey, something's happened with you. You're developing yourself. You're recreating yourself. And it's highlighting because very different than when it was three and a half years ago, you were like, I don't know what's going on here. You, you, you're a different human being today than you were Three and a half years ago. And the more I learn about this guy, the more I love this guy. I like what he's doing to improve himself as a father, as a husband, as a man. You should see how he's with his kids. YMC's like he's on a call, and boom. Let me step. I got to do this. Hey. With his wife, it's okay. We're going to do this. This is good. Like, these are things that. It matters, stuff that matters in life. Kids matter, family matters, friends matter. Like, you pour into it a little bit. Well, we got to pay attention. But sometimes we as parents are drifting. I got my promotion. I got. I got my. Dude, pump the brakes. Grab a conversation with your kid. Walk with them for an hour. How you doing? What's happening? Let me tell you what I'm thinking about you. Here's how I envision you being one day, kid. I think one day you can be that. Really, Daddy? Really, Mama? Yes. But I also think I'm noticing some things you're not paying attention to. You eat too much sweets, you sleep in too much. You're not exercising. You're not moving your body. You're addicted to video games. How about we get addicted to your dreams? How about you have these types of conversations with them? This is the clip with Leila Micklewait. This comes out tomorrow, by the way. It's a disturbance, Vinnie. Just watch this. You'll feel how disturbing it is in the first 20 seconds.
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Vinny
Okay. And you said. You said out of 58 million viewers, 56 million videos.
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Patrick Bet-David
That was on Pornhub. 91% of it they took down.
- [122:31]
Adam Sosnick
What?
- [122:31]
Patrick Bet-David
Because of that New York Times article and because of this lady that got the 2.3 million petitions.
- [122:36]
Vinny
Wow.
- [122:36]
Patrick Bet-David
Watch this clip right here. Go ahead. From Broward County, Florida.
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Rob
She was missing for an entire year. And she was finally found when her distraught mother was tipped off by a pornhub user that he recognized her daughter on the site. She was found in 58 videos on Pornhub.
- [122:50]
Patrick Bet-David
So. So this is us.
- [122:51]
Rob
Emails from the CEO.
- [122:52]
Tom Ellsworth
Can we tell MasterCard that it just.
- [122:54]
Patrick Bet-David
Slipped through the cracks?
- [122:56]
Rob
They want to know what we do.
- [122:57]
Patrick Bet-David
They're communicating amongst each other as employees.
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Rob
They're saying, what should we do? She couldn't be older than 13 or 14. And the video was obvious, and they.
- [123:04]
Patrick Bet-David
Left it up under new ownership or old ownership. That was. This is the old ownership. But old ownership is the same VPs.
- [123:10]
Tom Ellsworth
And executives that are there today.
- [123:11]
Patrick Bet-David
Right, but there's not being held accountable. There's not enforcement. I don't get that. Who wouldn't enforce that law? It's kids.
- [123:19]
Tom Ellsworth
I want to address something that Solomon.
- [123:21]
Rob
And his partner said on this show. I mean, you could play what he actually said.
- [123:25]
Patrick Bet-David
It's a complete lie. They exploit and they harvest the data.
- [123:28]
Rob
Of every single user that visits their site. They're currently being sued in a class action, and I think we will see full criminal prosecution of the owners of pornhub. And I hope that we do.
- [123:40]
Patrick Bet-David
Okay, so this goes at tomorrow.
- [123:42]
Vinny
Wow.
- [123:43]
Patrick Bet-David
You know how many kids have been missing according to FBI? You know how many children are missing in America according to FBI overall? First of all, 20. 22 records. Rob, don't look at the screen. Just look at me. How many children you think are missing, Tom? Everybody think number and then tell me children missing that are still missing. And then it's not a big number that you think it's a big number.
- [124:04]
Vinny
250,000.
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Patrick Bet-David
What do you think the number is?
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Adam Sosnick
That's an insane number. 10,000.
- [124:08]
Patrick Bet-David
Okay, 10. Tom, what do you think the number is?
- [124:10]
Tom Ellsworth
I thought it was 30,000.
- [124:11]
Patrick Bet-David
Rob, can you pull up? You're about to be shocked because 359 missing children missing. 359,094 missing. Every one of them counts. Reported to the National Crime Information center.
- [124:24]
Vinny
Reported, too.
- [124:25]
Adam Sosnick
22,000, by the way.
- [124:27]
Patrick Bet-David
You said 20,000. That's 22,000 more than it was in 2021, bro.
- [124:32]
Vinny
Like how missing?
- [124:34]
Patrick Bet-David
What are we not think about these parents that are missing? I mean, this is serious stuff here that we're talking about. So for me, parents, we need to be a little bit more involved. You got a nephew, you got a niece. You got to develop some of their identities to make sure you're having these tough conversations with them when it's necessary. But for me, when. When Eric Schmidt is telling this story, as much as we have fun here, guys, and we joke around, we do certain, you know, at the core of what we're doing, there's values and principles that matter. They got to stand up for. These are some of these conversations that we're having right now, because I think sometimes parents, we all need a nudge, all of us do, to just kind of be reminded of it. Maybe use today on Thanksgiving to have a conversation with them. Maybe this is a great opportunity today. Maybe today, tomorrow, if you're not working, pull them aside, go for a walk with them, do it individually with each one of them and take them for somewhere and sit down and say, I want to talk to you, son. I want to talk to you, baby. What's going on, pops? What's this? It's going to be a little bit weird if it's not regularly happening. And before you do, make a few notes of what your outcome of this meeting with them is. It's going to be different for your daughter than your son, than your oldest and your youngest. But the fact that you have their conversation with them one on one and give them that one on one attention, I can't tell you what it does to them. You remember when your parents did it to you? We remember when they did it. That one time I was six, seven years old, my mom would tell me, you're going to be an incredible engineer once day. Engineer, engineer. You're gonna be who the hell. Like I'm seven years old, I'm remembering that, have that conversation with them. My dad would say, son, the reason why you're going to be a leader one day is because you're not afraid of the truth. One time my dad and I went to this, what do you call a spa in Iran, that they had pool and all this other stuff that we would go there and they would make this drink, Persian drink that I freaking love. It's not du. It's like water with these. My dad knows what it is. This fruit stuff that they put in, it's just incredible with lemon and all this stuff. I love it. And we go there and a guy says, how old is your son? And my dad says, ah, they're friends. He says, my, My son is 14 years old. I said, I'm not 14 years old. My dad's lying to you. I'm 8 years old. And he says, really? He says, yeah, because this place is 12 and up. He says, well, listen, since your father, I like the fact that you're honest, come in. And he let me in. He says, the reason why you're going to be a leader one day is you're not afraid of the truth. You'll tell the truth, get in trouble sometimes, but you'll tell the truth. That stays with you. At 8 years old? Yeah, I'm 46. That's 38 years ago. We can do that for our kids. Folks, you and I can do that for our kids. Use today as the opportunity this weekend to have that conversation and do me a favor, share it with me. I want to hear about it. You have no idea how much I love hearing stories like this. And when you have that conversation, you can get a hold of us on, on Manect or tweet and do whatever you Want. But on Manek, we'll be able to respond back to these stories. All right, let's do one or two stories before we wrap up and finish this up. Can we. Can we have some fun? Is that okay if we have a little bit of fun? Are you guys okay if we have a little bit of fun? By the way, we got 42, 000 crazy still. Still here with us after 11 o'clock. You're still here with us. You guys are amazing. So why don't we have some fun?
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Vinny
Okay.
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Patrick Bet-David
Every once in a while, I think it's fun to, you know, get some people, maybe get a little bit of a reaction and see what happens. You know, the girl earlier, her name is Abby Phillips. Who doesn't want the phrase dear? How about we all collectively tweet at her and we say, dear Abby Phillips. Rob, if you can put the handle below in the chat, I want you to tweet at her and I want thousands of us to do it. Tweet at her. Dear Abby Phillips Philip, and then say, happy Thanksgiving, God bless. Hashtag at the bottom, PBD podcast. Okay? They're gonna freak out. And this may even prompt these guys to react and say, I cannot believe you guys are disgusting or whatever. All we want to say is D. Rabbi Phillips, listen, Happy Thanksgiving, Gabby. You know, congrats on being a CNN News Night Host. 10:00pm Eastern Standard Time. You may even take this as a promotional, like, well, help me with promoting you.
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Vinny
So, Dear Abby. What?
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Patrick Bet-David
Pat Dear. Her handle, Abby Philip, you found it. It's on Twitter.
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Vinny
Yeah.
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Patrick Bet-David
Abby. Abby Philip. And just say happy Thanksgiving, God bless. Maybe put a couple turkeys in there.
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Vinny
Okay.
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Patrick Bet-David
And then at the bottom, hashtag, PBD podcast. Let's see if in the next three minutes, five minutes, we can get this thing trending for her to get some love. And as she's enjoying herself today, maybe she's getting a bunch of love again. Dear Abby, from us at PBD Podcast to you. We love watching your co host or guest that's on with you, Scott Jennings. He's a superstar and we're proud of his fight and the great work that he's doing. And Scott is probably the number one reason why we've been tuned onto you, turned on to you because he does such a phenomenal job and the common sense Americans love watching Scott Jennings. We think he's a superstar. And cnn, I hope you realize if you don't pay Scott Jennings what he's really worth, the market all over the place would be more than Happy to pay Scott Jennings what he's really worth. And, Abby, that's a shout out from us to you. That's this much time I'm going to give to you guys, but I wanted to make sure you got proper love. Dear Abby Phillips. Philip, Happy Thanksgiving. God bless. Hashtag PBD podcast. All right, let's go to a couple other stories while we're doing this. Let's see what happens next. Seven minutes. We'll report back. We're just having some fun here, folks. We just want to wish people happy Thanksgiving. What's wrong with that? There's nothing wrong with that. Nothing is wrong with that, you know, so it's a lot of good stuff that we're doing here, contributing positively to society. All right, so let's go to this next story. Baker Mayfield, a little bit weird. Football player having a decent season. Right? He's at Tampa, if I'm not mistaken. I think he's 8 and 3 or maybe like 7.
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Adam Sosnick
No, no, no, no. I think they're basically 500.
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Patrick Bet-David
Are they? Can you pull out what their record is? He started off having a decent season.
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Adam Sosnick
They were doing all right. He's having a great season. So they're maybe 500.
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Patrick Bet-David
Are they 500?
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Adam Sosnick
I'm gonna say five.
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Patrick Bet-David
Maybe you're right. Maybe they are 500. I think they're doing better than 500k, the giants butt.
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Vinny
So.
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Patrick Bet-David
Oh, shoot. Okay, so they're five and six. All right, let me read this to you. My apologies, Baker. I was trying to give you a shout out because I actually would like to see you have a decent season here. So, Baker Mayfield, Sue's own father, claiming he stole $12 million. This is the quarterback of Tampa Bay filing a lawsuit against James Mayfield, alleging James Co. Kenwood Capital transferred $12 million from Mayfield and his wife without authorization from 2018 to 2021. Claims a settlement reached in January requiring his father to repay nearly the full amount has been breached with not even $1 repaid and no response to inquiries. The lawsuit filed in U.S. district Court in Texas stated defendants had no intention of making plaintiff whole. And I've refused even to respond to plaintiff outreaches about those breaches. The first payment of $250,000 was due on September 30, but was never received. Mayfield accuses his father's company of obscuring information, avoiding inquiries, and providing fictional explanation. Adam, what's going on with the story here?
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Adam Sosnick
I mean, what a horrible situation to have your father take advantage of you. For how much?
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Vinny
$12 million.
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Adam Sosnick
In three years for, for those of you that don't know the story of Baker Mayfield, and by the way, I'm walking out in streets these days, they go, hey, are you Baker Mayfield? I get it all the time.
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Vinny
Like you look like I get it all the time.
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Adam Sosnick
Baker Mayfield. So respect to you, Baker. Here's a guy, grows up in Texas, goes to a high school, and I think he plays football at a school called Lake Travis in Austin, Texas. Doesn't get a scholarship, walks on to Texas Techs, makes the team, says, you know what? I'm not. There he is right there. I don't know if you can see a better picture. Makes the team, says, yeah, I don't really like it right here. Transfers over to Oklahoma, spends a few years there. Boom. Few years later, wins the Heisman. Best player in the country. Boom. Oklahoma NFL draft comes around. He doesn't get drafted. First round, he doesn't get drafted. Top 10 round, number one overall pick, my doppelganger over here, Baker Mayfield. Boom. Goes to the Cleveland Browns, sorriest team in the NFL rookie year. Breaks the NFL touchdown record. Throws the most amount of touchdowns for a rookie in his first season. Takes the dog pound. Cleveland Browns to the playoffs for the first time and felt like 100 years. Everyone's loving Baker. Everyone's loving what he's doing in Cleveland. There he is, my little twin brother right there. Basically that's in 2018, lose. Ends their playoff drought. A couple years going in and out of the league. Basically says Cleveland in it for me. Ends up in Carolina, One of the worst franchises these days. Spends a half a season with the Rams. Boom. Next thing you know, Tom Brady retires. They end up picking him up. He ends up doing a great job. Ends up signing a 50 million dollar a year contract, I believe. No, sorry. 50 million is what he's already earned. He signs a 3, 3 year, 115 million dollar contract. So here's this dude going around the league. This is a message here. You start off not even a scholarship. Walk on, a few years later, you're winning the Heisman. Number one overall pick. You're basically taking Tom Brady's job. And now You're a top 10 quarterback in the league. During all this, you're going to have your fans, you're going to have your haters. Behind the scenes, your dad is just embezzling millions of dollars from you. You're going like, if you're an NFL quarterback, by the way, there's no other position in all of sports that is more important than the NFL quarterback. You have. You have your doubters, you have your naysayers, you have your haters. Unbelievable. But he beat Vinnie's team last week. He beat the New York Giants. And what he do. He did one of these things to your boy, Tommy DeVito. Hey, no, no, no.
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Patrick Bet-David
So why'd you do that? So I've seen him do it. I just kind of decided to do it myself. I don't know, I was just kind of thinking. I.
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Adam Sosnick
The reason I like this guy's story, other than the fact that he's ridiculously good looking, I mean, hello. Come on. I mean, people hated on him. They doubted him. They said he wasn't going to do anything. He's made, what, $100 million almost in his career right now. From walk on to Heisman Renner to number one draft pick. Are you kidding me? And beyond all that, his father is embezzling money. Unbelievable. Horrible story. But someone like this is going to bounce back because he's a winner.
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Vinny
I got. I have a really quick funny story. So I'm. And I have to. It's on Instagram, but I'll send it Rob. So I'm working security because, I mean, obviously I'm huge. I'm at the door. He comes in. This is in North Hollywood. I don't even say the place. He's in there. He's in there with his fiance.
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Adam Sosnick
What year is this?
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Vinny
This is right. He's about to get drafted. He's going through that.
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Adam Sosnick
2017.
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Vinny
2017. He's going through the.
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Adam Sosnick
They got you as the bouncer.
- [135:20]
Vinny
I'm the door guy checking IDs.
- [135:22]
Patrick Bet-David
But I have.
- [135:22]
Vinny
Trust me, I have hilarious stories. But anyway, so he comes in and he's chilling and then he's like, I hear something. It's his girl's. His girl fiance's birthday. But they don't have anything. There's no. He asked if there's any cake or any. We didn't have anything like that. So I leave my post. Adam and I sprint down the street. This is going to talk about reasonable hospitality. To. There's a Ralph's down the street. I go and I buy a whole thing of cupcakes. I put birthday candles and I light it and we sing Happy Birthday to him. Pat. This guy's face was like this. He's like, what the. Did you just. Are you guess his number? I contacted him and then we've been chill ever since Baker. And then. And then he signs his contract and his dad's taking 12 million dollars, which, by the way, it's weird this 12 million dollar number. Darrell McAuley was Dane Cook's half brother. You talked about this from 2004 and 2008. Stole 12 million from. It's like a really round number that everybody just keeps stealing from their family.
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Adam Sosnick
Cook not too long ago, but Baker Mayfield shout out to this guy student.
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Patrick Bet-David
Despite all this, by the way. Despite all of that. And he's doing that. You got to respect the fact that he's keeping it. Did you have some comments on this, Tom Baker?
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Tom Ellsworth
Yes. There's something very, very funny that happened and I don't remember. I wish I could remember what athlete. But I remember reading this long ago. So there's this dispute about the parents, right. Taking the money and everything. And apparently with the athlete. This was a female athlete. And what she did is she said, I'd like to drop the suit. It what? And because they identified all the money, apparently Pat, they found all the transfers. So they knew the money and it was like a couple million dollars. Now think about what happens. I'm dropping my suit. I think I was mistaken. I remembered now. I gave it to my dad. It was a gift. And we've reported it to the irs.
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Patrick Bet-David
Say that again.
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Vinny
What?
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Tom Ellsworth
Her parents apparently had taken a couple million dollars from her on like dancing and acting and she. And they ends up in the suit and there's all this stuff going on. Apparently her lawyer said, why don't you just recant it, drop the suit, say, oh, I remember now, it was a gift and report it to the irs. And that's what she did. So guess what? She didn't have to go after her parents anymore. The IRS is going to go.
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Patrick Bet-David
Hey, you took.
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Tom Ellsworth
You got $2 million. We want 40%.
- [137:32]
Patrick Bet-David
Wow.
- [137:33]
Vinny
That's actually brilliant.
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Patrick Bet-David
It. Yeah. Well, listen guys, I do want to give you guys an update. You guys are so crazy and powerful. Guess what? We're officially trending on Twitter. We're number7. Hashtag on Twitter. Literally it says number7. PBD podcast. If you can you zoom in a little bit. PBD podcast trending number seven. That's the power of just day to day people on Thanksgiving.
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Adam Sosnick
That's it.
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Patrick Bet-David
And you know what? We made someone's day.
- [137:56]
Vinny
Yeah.
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Patrick Bet-David
Thousands of people just wished happy thanks happy things.
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Vinny
How respectful. Tom's was the best. Dear Abby. Scott Jennings is the only reason I watch Happy Thanksgiving.
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Adam Sosnick
Anyway, by the way, we also got a. An amazing Thanksgiving shout out by from the president, by the way. Do you see what he said?
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Vinny
What? Anthony Blinken said something he wanted to.
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Adam Sosnick
Wish us Happy Thanksgiving.
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Tom Ellsworth
Happy fourth of July. There we go.
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Vinny
So dumb.
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Patrick Bet-David
I love it. Well, listen, gang, it's been great spending time with you guys today on Thanksgiving to. Let's see how many of you were with us the last two hours. Let me give you the exact number. You have to be crazy because California, we started at 6:00 and you, you woke up and stayed with us. Yeah. You were up, wakey wake, and committed. So, Rob, what's the number on how many stayed with us? The last. Let me just kind of figure this thing out. 220, 000 people that were with us this morning. May God continue to bless you. May 2025 be the beginning of the greatest years of your life. And remember today, Black Friday 50. Listen, we already had, I think 17 people that have placed orders over 500, which means I gotta make 17 calls already to some of you guys. We're going to be busy. I look forward to FaceTime. To many of you guys. Remember, whatever money that's being spent for some of you that actually are comfortable saying Merry Christmas, go buy the Christmas stuff, because that's moving fast. But there's 125 products on there that are on the 50 off sale that if you purchase. Some people are ordering 20 pins at a time, buying the hats, gifting it to other people. The courses, for some of you that are in business, make the investment on the courses, the bundles. Because every year people ask us, pat, are we doing this again? Are we doing this again? Are we doing this again? This happens once a year. This is your opportunity. Make sure to make that investment. It'll make you a lot more money than buying a TV or video game and all the other stuff that you'll be doing. But aside from that, while you're going through this, I think. I think I just got a text right now that the first 200 orders. Let me read this. Give me one second, folks, on what we were doing. Any new hat with the first 100 people will receive a Future Looks Bright mug.
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Vinny
Nice.
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Patrick Bet-David
Freaking amazing. So anybody that orders a hat, if you. If in your order there's a hat in there, you're going to get a Future Looks Bright mug. There's a bunch of different mugs on there for you to take advantage of. Go take advantage of. This weekend just started. It really starts Friday. But those of you guys that are with us here on the podcast, you found out first, the email is going to go out to everybody for this weekend. You're ahead of everybody else. Enjoy Thanksgiving. God bless. Take care everybody. We'll do it again next week. God bless. Bye.