In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss all things retirement—how the concept of retirement has changed, how they’re financially planning for their own retirements, and what their ideal retirement looks like.

00:00 Intro

01:33 What does retirement look like right now?

08:48 How Kaila and Kyle approach the financial element of retirement

12:58 Thinking about the non-financial aspects of retirement

22:30 Mini retirements

25:45 Where Kaila and Kyle plan to retire

31:13 Per My Last Policy

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