Piers Morgan Uncensored – “A VERY Valuable Asset” Epstein's Links To Mossad | Bassem Youssef vs Alan Dershowitz

Date: February 12, 2026
Host: Piers Morgan
Guests: Ryan Grim (Investigative Journalist), Alan Dershowitz (Lawyer & Author), Bassem Youssef (Comedian & Activist)

Episode Overview

This episode delves into the latest revelations from the Epstein files and tackles one of the most contentious theories: was Jeffrey Epstein linked to Israeli intelligence (Mossad) or broader intelligence networks? Piers Morgan moderates a vigorous debate between Bassem Youssef and Alan Dershowitz, with context and background provided by investigative journalist Ryan Grim. The discussion covers evidence from document dumps, debates about media coverage, and the broader implications of Epstein’s connections and prosecution.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Were Epstein’s Ties to Mossad Real?

Segment: [00:32] – [15:32]
Participants: Ryan Grim, Piers Morgan

• Piers raises widespread speculation about Epstein as an Israeli intelligence operation, referencing frequent claims from public figures and stating “the theory that Epstein was an intelligence asset…makes a lot of sense” ([01:12]).
• Ryan Grim lays out key circumstantial evidence:
  • Epstein’s 1982 Austrian fake passport is a red flag ([03:45]).
  • His close associations in the 1980s with Stan Pottinger (attorney tied to Iran-Contra), weapons trader Adnan Khashoggi, and Israeli intelligence-linked figures like Douglas Leese ([03:45]–[05:23]).
  • Ehud Barak (Israeli PM and ex-military/intelligence) frequently stayed with Epstein, with deep links to Israel’s cyber-weapons industry ([06:39], [08:12]).
  • Maxwell family connection, especially Ghislaine Maxwell’s father, Robert Maxwell, also suggested as possible Israeli intelligence ([05:23]).
• Grim argues:

  “Did he work for Mossad? It’s more like Mossad was working for Epstein.” ([00:32])

• Noted that being a spy or asset can be a grey area; agencies often ‘scratch each other’s backs’ with valuable insiders ([08:12]).

Memorable Quote:

“He was perfect territory, I would have thought, for an organization like Mossad to want to recruit, given how far his tentacles spread.”
—Piers Morgan ([07:02])

2. Epstein’s Wealth: Dirty Money and Shadow Networks

Segment: [13:25] – [15:32]
Participant: Ryan Grim

• Grim draws a direct line from the Iran-Contra scandal to Epstein’s immense wealth, describing vast sums funneled through slush funds, shell companies, and money laundering involving Israeli and American intelligence ([13:25]).
• Connections with Les Wexner (who gave Epstein power of attorney) and other wealthy figures grew from these secretive financial origins ([13:25]–[15:27]).

Notable Explanation:

“Epstein’s right in the middle of all of that [Iran-Contra]. So you can imagine how somebody comes out of that with...a significant amount of wealth to begin with.”
—Ryan Grim ([13:25])

3. Debate: Alan Dershowitz Defends His Role and Denies Mossad Link

Segment: [15:36] – [22:46]
Participants: Piers Morgan, Alan Dershowitz

• Dershowitz firmly denies Epstein was a Mossad agent—“no evidence” ([16:12]–[18:33]).
• Argues he, as Epstein’s lawyer, would have used any such connection to secure a “get out of jail free card,” but Epstein never revealed one ([18:33]–[20:33]).
• Claims conspiracies about Mossad are fun to discuss but baseless based on his knowledge and timeline ([16:12], [18:33]).
• Piers challenges Dershowitz, questioning if Epstein could have lived many secret lives even from him ([18:33]).
• Dershowitz: “Telling me he worked for Mossad would have given him a get out of jail free card. ... He would do anything to avoid prison time. Why wouldn’t he have told me?” ([19:14])

4. Legal Morality and Accountability for Epstein’s Crimes

Segment: [20:33] – [22:46]

• Dershowitz clarifies: Epstein pleaded guilty to paying a 17-year-old and a woman in her 20s for prostitution, not to trafficking or pedophilia as legally defined ([20:56]).
• Claims he could have used intelligence ties as leverage for a no-jail plea, but never had such evidence ([20:33]–[22:46]).
• Notes, “He may have done all of those things, but when I was representing him, all he was being charged with was these two counts of paying prostitutes.” ([20:56])

Memorable Exchange:

Piers: “You mean if he’d said he was working with the Mossad...he would get off being a pedophile?”
Dershowitz: “That’s right...If he had been a member of the Mossad, any good lawyer could have parlayed his membership and his contribution to intelligence into a deal.”
([20:33]–[20:56])

5. Bassem Youssef’s Counterpoint: Mossad, Media, and Legal Hypocrisy

Segment: [22:46] – [29:02]
Participants: Bassem Youssef, Alan Dershowitz

• Bassem sarcastically paints Dershowitz’s defense as a “recruitment video for Mossad”—implying powerful intelligence connections guarantee impunity ([22:52]).
• Launches into a rapid list of Epstein’s Israeli connections and pro-Israel activities ([23:56]).
• Accuses Dershowitz of “gaslighting,” both regarding Israel’s policy in Gaza and the Epstein case. Brings up allegations involving Mossad, Wexner, cyber deals, and involvement in compromising high-profile individuals ([23:56]–[26:39]).
• Tense exchange over accusations, settlements, and mutual interruptions; Dershowitz threatens to sue Youssef over claims regarding million-dollar settlements ([28:05]–[34:20]).

Notable Quote:

“Basically, they’re telling people if you’re Mossad, you can get away with anything.”
—Bassem Youssef ([22:52])

6. Pointed Back-and-Forth: Lawsuits, Settlements, and Disputes

Segment: [27:14] – [35:34]

• Bassem accuses Dershowitz of paying settlements and attacking victims ([28:05]).
• Dershowitz adamantly denies, demanding direct quotes and sources, calls Bassem “a despicable liar,” and insists no money was paid for accusations against him ([29:06]).
• Prolonged, argumentative cross-checking of a New Yorker article, showing the tension over factual accuracy and personal credibility ([33:07]–[35:18]).

7. Broader Context: Is Justice Even Possible in the Epstein Case?

Segment: [36:00] – [53:01]
Participants: Piers Morgan, Alan Dershowitz, Bassem Youssef

• Piers probes accountability: Why have no other high-profile men been prosecuted? ([40:57])
• Dershowitz suggests prosecutions should be based on hard evidence, not guilt by association or “McCarthyism.” Calls for unredacted disclosure except for minors ([50:36], [52:40]).
• Bassem ridicules the document dump process, likening it to a “TikTok challenge” or a dysfunctional scavenger hunt. Critiques the FBI and U.S. justice for pushing responsibility onto the public instead of prosecutor-driven investigation ([42:40]–[45:37]).
• Both Youssef and Morgan express cynicism that any powerful figures will ever see real consequences ([49:44]–[50:58]).
• Ongoing debates about the definition/use of terms like “pedophile,” “genocide,” and media complicity in shaping narratives ([39:38], [45:37]).

Memorable Quote:

“You have the FBI, you have the DOJ, you have unlimited resources...and the US Government response like, ‘Hey guys, let the Internet figure it out. You want some guy on Reddit cross-referencing flight logs at 2am while he's eating Cheetos?’”
—Bassem Youssef ([42:40])

Memorable Quote:

“I think that Epstein island showed us that in order to be powerful, you need first to be compromised. And as long as you are compromised, only then you can stay powerful.”
—Bassem Youssef ([49:44])

8. Final Thoughts & Wild Theories

Segment: [53:01] – [55:06]

• Piers Morgan and guests reflect on conspiracy theories that once seemed wild but now appear plausible as new evidence emerges ([54:30]).
• Bassem references past “conspiracy” about Bill Clinton being compromised over Monica Lewinsky, linking back to Israeli intelligence ([53:11]).
• Dershowitz angrily responds, “Have you no shame?”
• Piers concludes that in the Epstein case, no theory can be dismissed outright until all, heavily redacted, evidence is genuinely public ([54:54]).

Memorable Quote:

“It’s got to the stage with the Epstein scandal where I would pretty much entertain the possibility of any conspiracy theory being true, because so many that were dismissed as conspiracy theories have emerged as having credibility.”
—Piers Morgan ([54:30])

Notable Moments & Quotes (with Timestamps)

• Ryan Grim:

  “Did he work for Mossad? It’s more like Mossad was working for Epstein.” ([00:32])

• Piers Morgan:

  “He was perfect territory, I would have thought, for an organization like Mossad to want to recruit.” ([07:02])

• Alan Dershowitz:

  “Telling me that he worked for the Mossad would have given him a get out of jail free card.” ([19:14])
  “I could have gotten him no jail time if he had told me he was an intelligence source.” ([00:36], reiterated [19:14])

• Bassem Youssef:

  “You want some guy on Reddit cross-referencing flight logs at 2am while he's eating Cheetos?” ([42:40]) “Nothing is gray, Mr. Dershowitz. Nothing is gray. Genocide is not gray. Sex trafficking is not gray.” ([45:37]) “In order to be powerful, you need first to be compromised.” ([49:44])

• Dershowitz/Youssef Heated Exchange:

  “You are now going to be sued.” —Alan Dershowitz ([28:05])
  “You’re a despicable liar.” —Dershowitz ([29:33])

Important Timestamps for Listener Reference

• Mossad asset theory & document dump context: [00:32] – [08:12]
• Epstein’s shadow finances: [13:25] – [15:27]
• Dershowitz’s legal defense & timeline: [16:12] – [22:46]
• Bassem Youssef’s counter & Israel/US establishment critique: [22:52] – [29:02]
• Allegations, legal threats, and settlement spat: [27:14] – [35:34]
• Discussion on justice, government transparency, & systemic failure: [36:00] – [54:00]
• Final reflections & wild conspiracy theorizing: [54:30] – [54:54]

Overall Tone & Takeaways

The episode is tense, combative, and deeply skeptical, especially about institutional integrity in relation to the Epstein investigation. While Ryan Grim provides a sober, investigatory perspective, the debate becomes heated as Alan Dershowitz and Bassem Youssef clash over facts, language, and moral framing. Piers Morgan, typically provocative, expresses exasperation at the lack of transparency and accountability, characterizing the Epstein scandal as one where “any conspiracy theory” now seems plausible.

For listeners: This episode offers a whirlwind of documentary evidence, sharply contrasting legal and political worldviews, and unsparing criticism of the structures charged with holding the ultra-powerful to account.

For Further Reading / Investigation

• Dropsite News: Stories on “Epstein Israel” (via Ryan Grim)
• The New Yorker (July 29, 2019) for Alan Dershowitz settlement context
• Times of Israel and Israeli authors on intelligence links and Epstein

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