Podcast Summary: “CAN’T Go On!” ICE Chaos + Trump NATO Slur | With Piers Morgan’s Military Brother

Piers Morgan Uncensored – January 26, 2026

Overview

This special episode of Piers Morgan Uncensored dives into two of the week’s most explosive issues: the deadly ICE shooting in Minneapolis that further deepened political divides in America, and Donald Trump's controversial comments on NATO and U.S.-UK military cooperation. With commentary from a military insider—Piers's own brother, retired British Army Colonel Jeremy Morgan—the panel candidly debates immigration enforcement, fatal use of force, political hypocrisy, and the health of international alliances.

Key Participants

• Piers Morgan (Host)
• Jeremy Morgan (Retired British Army Colonel, Piers’s brother)
• James Carville (Democrat strategist)
• Clay Travis (Outkick CEO, Conservative commentator)
• Rob O’Neill (Former US Navy SEAL)
• Chenk Uygur (Founder/CEO, The Young Turks)
• Herb Stein (Republican economist – brief appearance)

Main Topics & Insights

1. The Minneapolis ICE Shooting & Political Fallout

What Happened (00:47 – 06:00)

• Fatal shooting of Alex Preddy, an intensive care nurse, by ICE agents during Minneapolis protests.
• Conflicting narratives: State officials called Preddy a harmless protester; federal officials labeled him a domestic terrorist.
• Piers Morgan sets up the hypocrisy: “As always with these things, I don't take a side, but I do look at hypocrisy when I see it and call it out when I see it. And I'm seeing a bucket load of hypocrisy.” (05:37)

Reactions from the Panel

• James Carville: ICE is being deployed to provoke division, not for public safety. Draws a line from Trump’s policies to wider societal division.
  “It's not an accident that they're acting in a lawless way. That's why he put masks on them. That's why he took away their badges, so that they would break the law...” (07:02)
• Points out the case of Alex Preddy:
  “He... was not a domestic terrorist. He was a guy who treated veterans. And his last words were trying to protect that poor woman over there.” (08:01)
• Clay Travis (09:32): Focuses on root causes, blaming Biden for an influx of illegal immigration and justifying strong ICE action; cautious about use of force.
  • Offers nuance: “If the guy… There's a difference between what you can legally do and what you should intelligently do. If I were giving advice to anybody who is going out to protest ICE right now, I would say don't go armed. I think if this guy had not had the weapon that he did, he would have been arrested. He would still be alive.” (13:20)
• Rob O’Neill questions both left and right, expressing horror at deadly force used on Americans:
  “I'm absolutely appalled that law enforcement is killing Americans on American soil at any time.” (19:38)
  • Notes that escalating the situation with weapons creates more danger for everyone.

Public Outrage & Political Shift

• Data cited by Cenk Uygur:
  “Already over 60% of Americans thought ICE was going too far before the shooting. Over 70% of independents thought that.” (25:12)
• Both left and some on the MAGA right (Trump's base) are now criticizing ICE, suggesting a tipping point.

Notable Quotes & Ironies

• “Rene Gubb wasn't armed and it didn't save her.” (Piers Morgan, 14:00)
• “If he wasn't armed, I think he would get less right wing support. And that is a deep irony.” (James Carville, 08:44)
• “We can easily minimize the amount of stuff going on. No shooting is the same.” (Rob O’Neill, 20:41)
• “The American people don't like it, overwhelmingly. Stand by, sit still and get the crap beat out of you because that's what's going to happen.” (Herb Stein, 18:03)

2. Trump’s NATO Comments & Military Alliance Debate

What Did Trump Say? (29:34 – 30:09 & 33:30)

• Trump suggested only U.S. troops were truly on the front lines in Afghanistan; NATO allies “stayed a little back.”
• Piers brings in his brother, Col. Jeremy Morgan, to respond from direct, lived military experience.

Military Insider's Account (32:12 – 35:53, 38:54)

• Jeremy Morgan: Flatly rejects Trump’s version:
  “It was a counterinsurgency. It was a 360-degree battlefield... It's completely wrong and disingenuous for the President to be referring to only American forces being based on the front line. There wasn't a front line.” (32:43)
• Shares harrowing real stories—e.g., British company commander Stuart Hill’s severe injuries, multinational coalition teams operating in high-risk regions.
• “Every country put a lot on the line, and casualties are not the only way to judge contribution.” (35:53)

International Fallout & Panel Viewpoints

• Piers Morgan: Calls for a direct apology, not just acknowledgment from Trump.
• Rob O’Neill: Defends NATO allies, highlighting their bravery and sacrifices:
  “Our allies, especially our special forces... stellar. The sbs... Norwegian Jaegers are some of the best special forces I've ever worked with... There is no front line; you can get hit by a mortar walking out of the porta potty.” (40:37)
• Carville & Herb Stein: Argue Trump’s stance is part of a consistent anti-military pattern.
  • Carville: “He is the single most anti military president we've ever had in the United States.” (43:11)
• Clay Travis's counterview: Trump “tends to use less military force than predecessors,” and his comments reflect belief in American exceptionalism rather than disrespect.
  “Trump, as often is the case, is a bull in a china shop. You have to pay attention to his direction, not all the time every single word that he says.” (45:04)
• Jeremy Morgan (on NATO’s future):
  “It's the bedrock of our security and I really hope that it does continue. I don't see any reason why it shouldn't.” (50:08)

Memorable Moments & Cross-Atlantic Camaraderie

• Jeremy pays tribute to U.S. forces, O’Neill to British and NATO allies—mutual respect, professional pride.
• Rob O’Neill: “Anyone that's gone over there, regardless of admin or combat, you're in a war zone... a comment like [Trump’s] should be checked.” (41:55)

Timestamps for Notable Segments

• ICE Shooting & Polarization: 00:47 – 19:38
• Rob O’Neill on Armed Protests & Lethal Force: 19:38 – 23:33
• Tipping Point: Public Turning on ICE/Trump: 25:12, 25:12 – 27:48
• Trump’s NATO Comments & Military Response: 29:34 – 38:05
• Jeremy Morgan’s Afghanistan Testimony: 32:12 – 38:54
• International & Special Forces Camaraderie: 40:37 – 42:29
• Trump's Anti-Military Criticism (Carville, Stein, O’Neill): 43:11 – 44:33
• Panel on US-UK Alliance: 45:04 – 50:44

Takeaways & Tone

• Strong condemnation across partisan lines for excessive force by ICE, with genuine alarm about escalation and political hypocrisy.
• Military solidarity trumps political bluster: both U.S. and UK voices unite to correct the record on NATO.
• Political opportunism called out repeatedly by panelists—both regarding the weaponization of immigration enforcement and the careless rhetoric around alliances.
• Piers’s tone: Energetic, confrontational but fair, skeptical of narrative spin by both left and right.
• Moments of gallows humor (re: Piers’s hip injury) and deep, somber reflection on loss and sacrifice in war.

Final Quotes & Reflections

• Piers Morgan:
  "There’s a power to videos… You can’t lie to people about what they’re watching with their own eyes." (51:54)
• Jeremy Morgan:
  “We need to hear those words. He is sorry for what he said. He got it wrong. It was ignorant of him to say; it was offensive.” (38:54)
• Rob O’Neill:
  “There's respect for the inner service… regardless of admin or combat, you're in a war zone.” (41:55, 51:15)
• James Carville:
  “Abandon all hope. You're going to get beat so bad in November…” (00:01, 17:10, 27:48)

This episode is essential listening for anyone seeking honest, tough discussion on the state of American law enforcement, political leadership, and the realities of international alliances—delivered with the sharp wit and no-nonsense tone characteristic of Piers Morgan Uncensored.