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Piers Morgan Uncensored
'Give Up Your Land or SHUT UP!' Bad Bunny & ICE At Super Bowl | With Bill O'Reilly
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Piers Morgan
This message may be shocking to many millennials. If you are one, you might want to sit down. Right now, loads of people are searching the following on low rise Jeans, halter top, velour, tracksuit, puka shell necklace, disc belt. You likely place these in the dark of your closet in 2004, never to be seen again. But if you can find it in yourself to dust them off, there are a lot of people who will give you money for them. Sell on Depop where taste recognizes taste. No one is legal on stolen land. That's so brave, celebrities. You are more than welcome to have an opinion, but you can't be a hypocrite. If you stand on the stage like Billie Eilish and you talk about stolen land, you best be ready to give up your land. In that case, kindly shut up.
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Jason Lee
You benefit from proximity to whiteness, but you don't want to acknowledge all the issues that your people are are created in our country and for the world right now.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. Sorry. Proximity to whiteness is now a problem.
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Bill O'Reilly
There is one big story brewing and that is Bad Bunny. Is the malevolent rabbit gonna do what he's told to do and just sing or is he gonna cause a ruckus?
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
For a while, it felt like the era of celebrities in politics was over. From Hillary Clinton's toe curling mannequin challenge to a Harris campaign which fritted millions on purchasing celebrity love, the message was loud and clear. We don't really care what any of you think. Unfortunately, like zombies descending from the Hollywood Hills, these celebrity preachers are back. And whether you agree with them or not, recent history teaches us they're not going to change anybody's minds. That's why Bill Maher, who's certainly no fan of Donald Trump, used his show last week to tell them to shut up.
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Jason Lee
In a country where the big issue.
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Bill O'Reilly
Now is affordability, outside of, I don't know, Springsteen and a few others, celebrities don't strike people as relatable or in touch. And what their activism mostly activates is eye rolls.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Well, they're not listening. Just as people are generally not listening to Bruce Springsteen's anti ice protest song. And many people would rather they hadn't listened to this anti ice poem read by Peter Dinklage.
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Jason Lee
Ice wheels flinched and froze now.
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Bill O'Reilly
Bare riot of candles, dark fury of flowers, pure howling of hymns.
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Jason Lee
If for us she arose somewhere in.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
The pitched deep of our grief. And on the subject of not listening, this week's Tone Deaf award must shortly go to Billie Eilish, a supremely talented singer, but who has stars at the Grammys clapping like seals for her pretty ludicrous claim that there are no illegal immigrants in America because all of the land is stolen. Now, we can't show you the original clip for reasons to do with propriety of the clip, but this AI rendition has captured the essence of the moment.
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Piers Morgan
No one is legal and stolen land.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Oh, my God, she's so brave.
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Bill O'Reilly
That's.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
That's so brave. First, I'm joined by the best selling author and host of no spin news, Bill O'Reilly. Bill, welcome back to Uncensored.
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Bill O'Reilly
How are you feeling, Piers?
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Well, I was going to ask you the same thing. We both fell off at the same time for different health reasons, but we're both back, which is the main thing. The show goes on.
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Bill O'Reilly
Yeah, we're both old guys. This happens to old guys. But I tell everybody, look, we're here for a reason. I believe that. And when you know the time is up, the time is up. So I memorized the Blue Oyster Cult song Don't Fear the Reaper. And one more thing about old guys, old guys are smarter than other guys. So we gotta get back in the arena.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Well, talking about songs, it's a very timely link, actually. So, so we had the Grammys this week, which became pretty predictably a sort of relentless platform for pop stars to attack ice as it turned out on this occasion it followed Bill Maher saying that celebrities risk harming Democrat chances at the ballot box. And he extrapolated to say we saw with Hillary Clinton and then with Kamala Harris, they roll out all the big pop stars. And in fact, it had the opposite effect to what they hoped. Taylor Swift's endorsement, they reckon actually turned people off voting for Kamala Harris, for example, and so on. And we saw it with Beyonce and Jay Z and others. Here you have them all lining up on stage and saying in some cases, very dumb things. I mean, Billie Eilish talking about the ICE situation and saying we, well, all land in America is illegal, therefore you can't have illegal immigrants. And so on. Taking Bill's position, Bill Maher's position that they should all shut up. Is this an example of why they should shut up? Or do you actually believe they should all be allowed to say what they like?
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Bill O'Reilly
I don't care what they say. I mean, it's like somebody on Speaker's Corner. I mean, do I care what the guy's doing? No. But there's a good story here that's untold in the pop music world. If you don't tow a line. It's like movies and tv, certain line. You're not going to work. You're not going to get marketing money behind your recordings. So you have to tow that line. And if you don't, then you have to move to Nashville and become a country singer. That's the way it is in America. And the second thing is that a lot of these performers, they like to virtue signal, and they live in a bubble, so they only talk to people who agree with them and they go, oh, yeah, this is terrible, and blah, blah, blah, whatever. So they make money by saying it and they feel good about themselves, so that's why they do it. But it's so inconsequential to reality in America, it means nothing. However, there is one big story brewing, and that is on Sunday, Super Bowl Sunday, with Bad Bunny. So I'll be in the game and I'll be. You know, I don't know if I'm going to see the mischievous rabbit or not, but if he starts this nonsense in the halftime show, all hell's going to break loose. And the NFL knows that. And they have already talked to Bad Bunny's management about it. So it's a little drama. Is the malevolent rabbit gonna do what he's told to do and just sing, or is he gonna cause a ruckus? That's an interesting storyline.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
It is. And of course, underpinning all this is the wider debate about ICE following the killings of two people in close proximity. What is your overview, Bill, about the whole thing? Because we've seen they've taken 700 ICE agents out of Minnesota. Now clear retreat, I think, by the Trump administration. Trump's own language has been much more mollifying. He picked the phone up to Tim Waltz, and they clearly recognized lines had been crossed here. Obviously, Trump wants to fulfill his campaign pledges to get illegal immigrants out of America. Most Americans applaud what's happened on the southern border. They applaud deporting illegal immigrants who then commit other crimes. But the flashpoint appears to be ICE agents masked up, going from door to door, just apparently picking on people with brown skin, whatever it may be, and checking their status, and if they're undocumented, chucking them in prison cells with a potentially deportation to follow. Is that American, that last bit?
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Bill O'Reilly
Well, you got to take it from what exactly is happening. And people in UK and Europe don't know what's happening. They don't understand a story, so they buy into the propaganda. Number one, I disagree with your word. Retreat. So what the Trump administration did was it realized that leadership in Minnesota, federal leadership, was not what it should be and that some ICE agents, I don't know how many, I'm not on the ground, were not behaving in a professional way. They were overreacting. And as a result of the overreaction, two Americans were killed. They shouldn't have been killed because the Minneapolis police should have been assisting the federal raids and then keeping the crowds away. So if in New Orleans you have a surge, the same thing, you don't have any of this. In Memphis, Tennessee, you don't have any of this because the local authorities in those cities assist ice. They keep the protesters back. They don't let them come up within an inch of the ICE agent's face with a gun on your hip, which is insane. Now, no American wants people killed. That's crazy. Who would want that? But if you look at it in totality, what's happening is a rebellion on the part of the state of Minnesota against the federal government, just as we saw in the states before the Civil War. And that rebellion is leading to chaos and chaos always leads to destruction. So that's where we are now. The mass thing is very simple to explain. These agents have families. If you get their full profile face, you could find out where they live and their believing peers. There are militants here who would go down and hurt ICE agents and their families. They would hurt them. So this is a self protection and it's entirely legal to do it. All right, so all of this subtlety to explain what's happening is lost under fascist ICE agents kicking indoors. I'm not even going to go into the warrant thing, which, you know, it's so complicated. But what the Trump administration promised to do and was elected on is to get the illegal migrant situation under control. And when they are searching for criminal migrants, many times there are other migrants in the country illegally with no criminal record that are associating. And the agent on the street can't make the determination, can't. Has to bring everybody in and then it's determined who they are and what will happen.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
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Bill O'Reilly
I wrote a column on billoriley.com and I hope all of your viewers will go to that website, because it's the fairest website in the world, and everything I say is backed up by facts. I've been doing this 52 years. I don't believe that Don Lemon is going to be convicted of anything. And I would be very doubtful that his case is even going to get into court because there is reasonable doubt and Mr. Lemon is entitled to due process. I'm not going to convict him. I know he wasn't there. I don't know what he did. But if he colluded with the protesters who interrupted the church service in Minneapolis, then he's guilty. If he colluded. So they had a little meeting and there was Don, and they said, well, we're going to do this. And Don said, okay, let's go. Well, he's guilty because he violated Civil Rights Act. Federal. It's a federal crime, okay? And. But if he just got a tip, if somebody just said, hey, Don, they're going to be a big hoedown at the. Whatever church it was, you ought to cover it. And he ran in and covered it, then he's not guilty. Pretty simple case, but there's a couple of good subtleties to it. So the column that I wrote is. Is Don A. Lemon? Okay, so there's no downside for Don Here there's no downside, none. So he gets a massive amount of attention, which he needs on his podcast to make money. The lawyer he hires, Abby Lowell, more than $1,000 an hour. Don's not paying him. The far left crews that love Lemon, they pick up the tab for that political action committees. So Lemon comes out of obscurity and into the spotlight where the President of the United States is talking about him and he's skipping all the way to the bank. All right, so 100%. To me, you know, it's a nothing story. It had anything to do with anything. But it's interesting to see, and again, Europe, uk, how America works. If you are an independent journalist, as I am, all right? And we are fabulously successful without doing these things, okay? You depend on attention to sell advertising, and that's what Lemon was doing there.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Finally, Bill, polymarket has current odds that anyone would be jailed over Epstein disclosures by the end of 2026. They reckon there's a 17% chance that someone gets jailed by the end of this year for Epstein related disclosures. Do you think that's likely? I mean, what's interesting is that in England, we've seen the downfall of Prince Andrew. No longer a prince. Lord Mandelson seemed to be no longer a lord. He's likely the latter to be heading to a criminal court soon. He might well be jailed. I'm not really seeing that happening in terms of accountability in the US over this. Why do you think that is?
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Bill O'Reilly
Because people are tired and bored of this story. They understand that if there was any wide implication for people in power on the Republican side, the Biden administration would have exposed it. They were desperately looking to link Trump to Epstein. They couldn't do it because if they had done it, then Kamala Harris would have won the election of 2020. So four years. Merrick Garland, the Attorney General, had all these guys pouring over all this stuff. They didn't find anything. So now what this is is a media generated story primarily by cnn. And MSNBC is not really media anymore. That's kind of like a giant podcast now. So. But cnn, every day, every way is, oh, oh, oh. Because the network is failing, all right? And nobody watches it and used to work there. And you know how much money they've lost in the last 20 years. My theory is once you left that CNN collapsed, so they should blame you, Piers Morgan, for the total collapse. So they are desperately trying to gin up some kind of controversy with Epstein and Trump, and Trump knows it, and that's why he gets so angry about it because it's so transparent. Not being said. If there is a shred of evidence, all right, that comes forth, I'll report it. But I haven't seen it. Nothing.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
And I think, I think in relation to Trump, I think we all know that if the Biden administration thought there was anything in those files that would have nailed Trump for criminality, we're, we'd have known about it in those four years of their tenure.
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Bill O'Reilly
You bet.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
And they'd have certainly produced it to stop him getting reelected. Bill O'Reilly, great to have you back and great to have you back on your feet. I'm not quite back on my feet, but I hope to be within a week or two.
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Bill O'Reilly
All right, thanks for having me, Piers.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Now, whether you agree with their cause or not, are they doing more harm than good, or should the president be worried that the culture is again mobilizing against him? Let's hear what my panel has to say about all this and more about Emily Austin, journalist and commentator Tommy Lahren, host of Fearless on Outkick, Jason Lee, CEO of Hollywood Unlocked, and Keith Edwards, host of the Keith Edwards Show. Well, welcome to all of you. Emily Austin, you were at the Grammys and you went viral for a genuinely laugh out loud clip of you and your friend reacting in real time to what you were hearing on stage. Let's take a look.
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Emily Austin
Our voices really do matter.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
People matter and fuck ICE is all I want to say. Thank you so much.
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Piers Morgan
I'm so edgy.
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Emily Austin
It's like ice.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Oh, my God. Now, full disclosure, Ms. Eilish and I share the same Hollywood hairdresser, which has worked out rather better for her than me. He's a lovely guy, he's a brilliant hairdresser. But I have to say, next time I see him, I will be pointing out that what she said there was obviously ridiculous. But it's interesting to me, Emily, after a few awards shows where celebrities kind of got the let's leave the politics out of this memo, they're now back with a vengeance. ICE has been the catalyst for this. We didn't hear anything about Iran, for example, and the heroic protesters or anything like that. It was all ice, ice, ice. You were there. What was the mood in the room like?
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Emily Austin
Well, first and foremost, thank you for having me. And I'm so happy. You look like you're feeling great and not up and moving around just yet, but at least your mouth still works. That was my mother.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
You know what? My mouth works and I do a job that involves sitting here staring at a camera, as most of us do. So thank God for my job.
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Emily Austin
Oh, always good to see you. But my mother was the woman sitting next to me in the video, and it's so funny.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Oh, I'm sorry. I thought it was your youngest.
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Emily Austin
No, it's a compliment to her. But the party of love and kindness and inclusivity has been the first group to attack her on her appearance, on her parenting choices. Personally speaking, I think she did a phenomenal job. But the mood in the room was. Everyone was elated. It's basically a free concert for those who were invited. It's a big party. People are singing, dancing. And then every time there's a political rant, let's just call it political nonsense. Everyone kind of forcefully stands besides myself because I'm not a sheep. But you could tell that there's just this fatigue. And contrary to what you just said in the intro, I don't think Trump is worried. I don't think anyone's worried because. Because if one thing completely dismissed of all of Hollywood's opinion, it was this past election. Kamala had every Diddy party guest, every single celebrity in the world that endorsed her, and clearly it didn't work. She had Megan, Thee, stallion, Taylor Swift, you name it, they endorsed Kamala. Yet Donald Trump won, not by a small margin, but by a landslide in this election. So celebrity opinions don't count. Now, personally speaking, I love music, I love theater, I love the arts.
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Bill O'Reilly
I.
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Emily Austin
And coming to this event, I was so happy to just be there and be present. And I don't take their opinion seriously. Nobody else does either. But it's just so annoying that they speak on something that, a, they don't believe in, or B, they don't put their money where their mouth is. But, you know, at least I can reassure you, a lot of celebrities did, in fact, come up to me. They were like, we love your bag. We're so proud of you. And I'm like, why don't you speak up? And they're like, of course we can't. We work in the music industry. Our artists won't work with us. And I told you, do you really believe that the artists feel that way? And a lot of the music executives are like, actually, no. They're doing it because their publicist said it's the right thing to do, or a very woke friend was chirping in their ear, and it doesn't make a difference to them. It's very harmless to them.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Tommy Lehren, welcome back to Uncensored. It's been way too long. I've missed you. I know you're incredibly busy and successful now and we often cross over when we're doing our own stuff. So it's great to have you back. I know we've got a slight delay, I think, with you down the line, so I'll preface my question carefully. It's since emerged that Billie Eilish's own massive mansion in California is built on Native American land. And the Sinai law firm in LA has reportedly written up a 30 day notice of eviction and is ready to serve. So words can have consequences. What, what did you make of this?
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Piers Morgan
Yeah, again, this whole notion that we exist on stolen land. I mean, either borders are imaginary or this is stolen land. You can't have it both way peers. But it doesn't matter to these celebrities because there's never any cost to anything that they do on that stage. There's no social cost because everybody in the room is clapping like sheeps. They all share a brain. There's never any real monetary cost. Yeah, sometimes they donate to a cause, but that's a tax write off. They don't compromise their security, their private jets, their lifestyle, their mansions, their property, their friendships. They compromise and sacrifice nothing. They stand on the stage and they deliver these messages because it makes them feel like they've done something without actually having to do anything at all. And they all stand in the room and they all clap for one another. And meanwhile, everyday Americans, everyday global citizens are looking at them like the dumbasses that they are because we know that they're hypocrites. Listen, they celebrities, athletes, public figures, you are more than welcome to have an opinion. We're all welcome to have an opinion and to share it. But you can't be a hypocrite if you stand on the stage like Billie Eilish and her weirdo brother, Phineas Ferb whatever his name is, and you talk about stolen land, you best be ready to give up your land. And I believe up until this moment I haven't heard anything from the Eilish camp about ceding their land to the Native Americans.
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Emily Austin
So.
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Piers Morgan
So in that case, kindly shut up.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
All right, Jason Lee. They're all a bunch of shameless hypocrites who don't know what they're talking about. And if they really believe in the stolen land theory, then they should be giving their mansions back.
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Jason Lee
Well, you know, I'm not going to argue what these people do with their mansions, but a couple of things that you said that people are tired of what Celebrities are talking about. Donald Trump is a celebrity, in case we forgot that he's a celebrity that used his celebrity to become president. And his movement, make America great Again, is really about making America racist again. If you want to talk about stolen land and just ignore what happened to the Native Americans, ignore what happened to black people in our country, to do that would be siding with the oppressors. And I will tell you, like, I'm not one to say that celebrities should matter, but this is the same president that just used Nicki Minaj to come from her home in Calabasas that was on its way to foreclosure or her being evicted and to come to an event to propel whatever message he wanted to get out there in front of the Epstein files. We have a president right now who throws Christianity, who uses every weapon of mass distraction in order to make the American people in the world forget the fact that he was hanging on a jet with Jeffrey Epstein sitting over there on the island. And all the documents that have been released show that all the pedal sympathizers, even on this show defending Donald Trump, have a lot that they don't want to be accountable for. So I'm not going to. I'm not going to be distracted by the narrative that Bad Bunny talking about out ice is some way more important than the fact that most of us have sat by and watched a genocide in Gaza and have sided with a pedophile.
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Emily Austin
Sir, do you own a home?
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Okay, well, that's.
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Jason Lee
I'm sorry, there's somebody else waiting to talk. We can get into questions later, because.
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Emily Austin
I'm ready for whatever.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
It's a good question. It's a good question.
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Jason Lee
What was the question?
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Emily Austin
Do you own private property in the United States?
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Jason Lee
What I own has nothing to do. It's almost as relevant as you sitting in the Grammys, singing along to all the artists, and using a moment to go get clout for the world to see you. I don't know.
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Keith Edwards
I've never seen you.
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Jason Lee
I know, Tommy, it doesn't matter. Listen, the thing that you have to understand, slavery is over. Slavery is over.
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Emily Austin
Listen, slavery is over.
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Jason Lee
And you don't control what I do.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
But you know what?
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Jason Lee
Let's talk about the fact that immigrants look like you. Wait, but let's talk about the fact that immigrants look like you. Right? Let's talk about Renee Good. Let's talk about. Let's talk about Renee. Well, you look like. You look like a white woman. You look like a white woman. And Renee Good was shot in the face Alex Predding was shot and killed. Listen. Just listen.
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Bill O'Reilly
Your.
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Jason Lee
Your proximity to whiteness. Your proximity to whiteness is jumping off the screen. And so you benefit from. From proximity to whiteness, but you don't want to acknowledge all the issues that your people are creating in our country and for the world.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Sorry. Wait a minute. Sorry. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Okay, wait a minute.
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Jason Lee
Go ahead, Pierce.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Proximity. Sorry. Proximity to whiteness is now a problem.
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Jason Lee
No, I'm not saying it's a problem. Listen, I want to make America great again. I just don't know when it was great. And for white people. I think this is make America racist again. I mean, peers in our country, you'd be considered an immigrant. Until they started shooting white people in broad daylight, this wasn't as big of an issue as it is right now. So let's just be honest about that.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Well, I am. I'm considered, actually, for the record, an exceptional alien. That is my immigration status to the United States. I get a new visa every three years on average, and my exact precise. Clarify. The way they describe me on my visa is a exceptional alien. Now, I could get all upset about that. I don't think I'm an alien. I think I'm a human being. But I quite like the word exceptional, so I let it ride. But I'm curious that you would attack Emily for her proximity to whiteness. In other words, she's not completely white, but she looks kind of white, so therefore. Yeah, doesn't fly.
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Jason Lee
I mean, look, she looks like a white woman to me. I'm not attacking her. I'm addressing her. I think there's a difference.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Imagine if I said to you, Jason, imagine if I said to you. Imagine if I said to you, Jason Lee, you're kind of black, but it's more a proximity to blackness.
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Jason Lee
I get. I get that. But I get that from white people all the time. My mother's Italian. My father's black. I get that. I'm Dominican. I really don't care what people think my proximity is to. And I'm not sensitive to you.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
You know what you'd call me if I said, I'll take it personal.
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Jason Lee
If anybody wants to.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
You would call me a ra. You would call me a racist if I said that?
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Jason Lee
He did just want no Piers. Unlike some people that look like me, I actually think you're exceptional. And I love that you can put it out there and own it and stand in it like I can. Like everybody. Like Tommy can. Right. And so, you know, my opinion about her is her Opinion about Bad Bunny. We are all here to share our opinions, and I have to stand in mine.
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Emily Austin
I love Bad Bunny, and I'm just. I'm very confused.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Yeah, so am I. But let's come to Keith, who's been waiting patiently. Bad Bunny is gonna be the big figure at the Super Bowl. He is the halftime show. He's obviously seized the Grammys and made a big political statement. He's entitled to do it. But I think if he pulls that stunt at the halftime show, there's gonna be massive repercussions. Would he be wise to just focus now on the music?
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Keith Edwards
Well, I think, first off, Emily, I have to applaud you. I'm so impressed by your bravery wearing an American flag purse at the Grammys. I salute you. It's Rosa parks, Emily K Jr and Emily Austin, the civil rights leaders of our time. I can't believe you're able to survive that. Secondly, I don't know if you're being.
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Emily Austin
Sarcastic or not, but thank you.
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Keith Edwards
You're welcome. No, I'm very serious. It's a serious thing you put yourself through. And secondly, I have to say that I don't, frankly, care what celebrities say. I think they're actually a reflection of our culture. And so they're just mirroring back what a majority of Americans think and feel. That is ICE is out of control. What ICE is doing is un American, and ICE needs to be either abolished or deeply, deeply, deeply changed. And so I think those.
- [30:44]
Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Case. Did you feel that way when Barack Obama was breaking all deportation records?
- [30:50]
Keith Edwards
Well, that's a different. Well, what do you know? Do you know why those deportation records are different?
- [30:55]
Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Why is it different when he's doing it?
- [30:57]
Keith Edwards
Well, it's different because the way that they classify deportations is that they actually turn people away at the border, which is what Obama was doing.
- [31:05]
Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
No, no. Obama. Obama deported. Obama deported, yes.
- [31:10]
Keith Edwards
Well, how they count those borders, how they count that a deportation counts is when they actually stop someone at the border and tell them to go back. So that is considered a deportation. So that's where that number comes from. Now, what has happened with Trump is that fewer people are actually going to the border. But what Trump is doing is it actually is doing this insane thing we're all seeing with our own eyes that are on film, which is people are being brought out of their house, many of whom are citizens, without any warrant. And I think that is what most people are upset about. And by the way, yes, American citizens are being executed in the street. So if you are for that Then I think that's good, Emily. I think that's good, Tommy. I'm not. I'm glad that there are actually some important, powerful people who are saying that this needs to stop. I wish the billionaires. I wish the CEOs, I wish the people who, as you said, the music executives were on our side. But I'm glad at least some people with a little bit of power are speaking up for those who cannot speak for themselves.
- [32:17]
Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
All right, let me come back to Tommy Lehren. Tommy, linked to this. We've had the spectacle of the resurrection of Don Lemon as the Martin Luther King of journalism. I gotta say, the moment I heard Don Lemon had been arrested in Hollywood, I was like, donald Trump, what are you doing? Why are you giving this guy the thing he's dreamed about his entire life and the thing he most desperately needs right now in his career, which is giving him the national stage to play the master, which is exactly what he's done. And fair play to them, and he's done it. But we're all in our way, I guess. We're media people, journalists and so on. I felt uncomfortable seeing him get arrested. I felt it was an overreach. I think you've got to draw a line between people who are protesting and maybe breaking laws and journalists reporting on it. Whatever you think of a journalist and whether you even think they are behaving like proper journalists, he identifies as a journalist. He was reporting on it for his show, and so on. Did you feel comfortable seeing him arrested? Do you think that was the right precedent to set?
- [33:26]
Piers Morgan
Well, Piers, I got to be real honest with you. I could not care less what happens to Don Lemon if he's arrested. If he's not, I don't care what he does. I don't care where he's at. I shed not one tear for him. I lose not one wink of sleep for Don Lemon. And you're exactly right. This is what he wanted. He wanted to be a martyr. He wanted to get his moment, and he got it. But I think what's more important here is the precedent that it set, because we're seeing these agitators in the streets of Minneapolis, Louisiana, and elsewhere out there impeding law enforcement and actually terrorizing communities. In Minneapolis, they have checkpoints where they're checking people's identification. Isn't that ironic? So they can go into certain parts of the city, and they're not allowing those who are federal agents or look like federal agents to enter certain parts of Minneapolis. So it's all ludicrous. And ridiculous. And a precedent needs to be set that you're not going to be able to do this. You don't own America. You have no authority. You can't go impede law enforcement. You can't go and protest violently. You can't get in the middle of an arrest or a detention. That that's not legal. If you want to stand on the side of the road with your dumb ass sign and your nose ring and your BO and talk about how you hate ice, you are more than willing and capable and able to do that. That's your constitutional right. But you're not able to impede law enforcement. And you can't go busting into a church service, by the way, and disrupting a church service, making people fear for their life. That has gone too far. So the precedent needed to be set. I don't care what happens. Don Lemon, do I really think he's going to pay a consequence to. No, But I think that there needs to be a precedent set for these individuals who wanna go out there and actually terrorize communities that you're not gonna get away with it under this doj.
- [35:01]
Keith Edwards
Why should a precedent be set?
- [35:03]
Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Bunny, hang on one second. Hang on one second. Keith and Tommy, should Bad Bunny be allowed to perform in the halftime show, given how political he made his performance at the Grammys? Because the halftime show at the super bowl is supposed to be a great unifying moment for the United States. Over 100 million people watching, all the families watching from blue states, from red states. It's kind of the one thing of the year where America, it seems to me as an outsider when I've been there, comes together and is genuinely unified. Watching the game, watching the entertainment. If in advance the halftime act has come out and been so overtly political, Whether you agree with him or not, should he be allowed to be the halftime show?
- [35:55]
Piers Morgan
Well, allowed to be. Listen, if the NFL made their choice and that's their business decision, then that's their business decision. I'm not one to tell private companies what they can and cannot do. If that's who they want, that's who they want. I don't think it's a good choice. I don't think someone singing in front of an American audience or rapping in front of American audience that, you know, doesn't speak Spanish in Spanish, I don't think that's a great idea. But the NFL decided that they care more about Hispanic and Latino viewers, and that was their business decision. I don't think it's a great one. And we'll find out if it is or not. But the NFL made this choice a long time ago with Colin Kaepernick and the rest of it. They decided they want to go woke that they want to prioritize activism over viewers and over the American people coming together for sport. So that's what they decided they wanted to do. Will it pan out? I'm not so sure it will. But I would also add this in terms of being controversial. Bad Bunny is a megastar. I'm not going to dispute that. He's got, you know, hundreds of millions of listeners and fans. And I get that they want to try to attract a Latino audience to the Super Bowl. That's fine. That's their business decision. But this whole thing about him being controversial. There are other celebrities and stars that have huge followings that are also controversial, but the NFL would never go there. For example, Morgan Wallen, huge star. Right. But the NFL would never choose Morgan Wallen as their halftime performer because he said the N word a few years ago and that would have been a big outcry. So it's never applied evenly. If the NFL wants to do it, go for it. I won't be watching, but I do think the hypocrisy is pretty thick.
- [37:23]
Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
All right, Jason Lee, I want to turn to the Melania documentary, which has been widely savaged by critics in, let's be honest, liberal skewed mainstream media, but has proven to be a massive box office hit. The most successful launch of any documentary theatrically in 10 years. Giving Melania the last laugh. You know, again, it's a very polarizing thing. I watched it and enjoyed it. You know, I know Melania quite well. I've known her a long time. I thought it was an interesting behind the scenes look at what it's like to be first lady over a 20 day period. Interesting. Watching the juggling of private and public life and so on. And some of the reviews were just plain vicious, savage nasty, because people hate Trump, hate her husband. Isn't this part of the problem that we have with the media where almost all the mainstream media reviews were savage and yet a lot of people in middle America? But I watched it, enjoyed it.
- [38:28]
Jason Lee
Yeah, I mean, I didn't watch it. I mean, shout out to Melania, she's the most famous immigrant in our country right now. I haven't watched any of her work since she did the tastefully nude shoe or soft porn, whatever that thing was that she did before she became first lady. The fact that we have an immigrant in the white House married to the president that's attacking immigrants who happen to look like me is hysterical. I do want to. I didn't interrupt you. I'm sorry. Let me go back to something you said about Don Lemon, because he's a friend, and I was with.
- [38:56]
Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Well, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Jason, one point, as Emily said. Ok, where is I? Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Where is Donald or Melania? Trump attacked immigrants. From what I've seen, they've attacked illegal immigrants. And Melania made the point. She did everything legally. She did it the right way. And like millions of Americans who came in legally into the country and did everything the right way, she's entitled to feel pretty pissed when people just float in over an open border.
- [39:30]
Jason Lee
We can't erase history. We've seen legal immigrants in our country separated from their families. We've seen people here legally sent to countries that they haven't lived in. So we're not gonna act like that didn't happen, just like we're not gonna erase slavery, just like we're not gonna erase what happened to the Native Americans. History does still matter in this country, even if you take it out of the school system. Now, I know that the fragile, the fragility of the people that you have booked here with me today keep hemming and ha and moaning because they can't handle the truth. Maybe it's not in their script and maybe it's not in the Bible that they continue to use and pop up as a way to defend their behavior. But let's be very clear. Listen, white girl, I'm talking to you. Now, you can just calm down and let me finish my sentence.
- [40:13]
Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
She's not white.
- [40:14]
Jason Lee
And you can keep.
- [40:15]
Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
She's not white. She has a proximity to white people.
- [40:19]
Jason Lee
People have cut. Listen, listen, Pierce, I said what she is. She could say what she is. She can cry in the car about it, do another video that goes viral. At the end of the day, what we're talking about in this country is a lack of compassion when we talk about, you know, the Pledge of Allegiance, justice for all, that means all people. Bad Bunny is an American. He had to remind you that Puerto Rico is a part of the United States. Even though you want to lump them in with all the illegals that climb the gate down in Mexico. And let's be very clear. Immigrants are look like all of us. Like all of us. And so why are we only focused on black and brown? I didn't see Bad Bunny say I'm performing at the halftime show because I want a bunch of Mexicans to pull up. And I didn't hear the NFL say that. I've seen Jay Z integrate culture, diverse culture into the Super Bowl. We saw Jennifer Lopez and Shakira make a very political statement about when they had dancers in cages at that time during their performance.
- [41:08]
Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Let me bring in the others. Let me bring in Emily. Emily, your response?
- [41:12]
Emily Austin
I'm still waiting for the punchline. Cuz you started with something and then you went to something else. I am, according to you, a white girl. I love bad bunny. So I'm not really sure what your point is. You keep calling people white as if it's a bad thing. You keep saying America is a place for only white people, yet you are here. With all due respect, if you're on this show, you must be slightly successful. You said you are part black. I'm not sure what your background is because I judge by merit. I'm not part of the DEI clan that judge people by their race or ethnicity. I care about two things. If you are legal in this country, then you are a citizen. I don't care from where you come from as long as you do it the right way. Both my parents came to Ellis island and did things the right way. So I don't think it's fair when people just illegally cross the border, cutting the line and then reap the benefits of American citizens. And number two, I don't care what your skin color is or ethnicity or your religion. I care that you're a good, kind person and that you're not indulging in these identity politics and trying to play the victim. And you, sir, are a hypocrite.
- [42:13]
Jason Lee
Identity politics. You literally are an identity conflict sitting right here on the screen. Listen, I know more of who I am than you appear to know who you are. I haven't seen your parents paperwork. I haven't seen your parents paperwork.
- [42:26]
Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
How do I know that your parents finish a point?
- [42:28]
Bill O'Reilly
Please.
- [42:28]
Jason Lee
Everything that you said on this show.
- [42:30]
Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Don't talk over each other. I want to bring in.
- [42:35]
Jason Lee
We're running out of time out.
- [42:37]
Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Time out. We're running out of time. I want to end with two things. One for Keith and one for Tommy. Keith. Christopher Nolan has cast Helena Troy in the Odyssey with a black actress, Lupita Nyong'. O. Elon Musk says Chris Nolan's lost his integrity. And this is the on running thing, right? Which is, you know, if you made a movie, a dramatized movie about Nelson Mandela or Martin Luther King and cast a white actor, all Hell would break loose if you had a black James Bond, right? People would say, yeah, that's fine. By contrast, Helena Troy, again, if it's a black actress playing Helena Troy, is that right? Is it the right way to do things or is it deliberately antagonistic?
- [43:27]
Keith Edwards
I don't know if it's antagonist. I think art's supposed to be subversive, Right. And so I think there's some subversion happening there. I think that would be interesting if you want to do a Broadway show about a white MLK Jr. I don't know how you do that, but I think it could be interesting. It certainly would get a lot of tension, but I would have an actor.
- [43:45]
Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
Doing the I Had a dream speech.
- [43:48]
Keith Edwards
Again, art's supposed to be subversive. I don't think there should be any rules around this sort of stuff. So I think if someone wants to have a black.
- [43:55]
Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
You've even lost Jason Lee on that one for a while.
- [44:01]
Keith Edwards
Is there going to be a market? Is there going to be a market for a white MLK Jr. I don't think so. But if someone wants to do that, then they should go ahead and give it a shot. I wouldn't recommend it, but I think art's supposed to be subversive. And so I think one of the reasons why that doesn't happen is because there's probably no one that's wanting to watch something like that. Whereas I do think there is a subversion that happens. Like Hamlet is a very great example of that, where they had black actors play white, white, historic people. Because that's true. There is. Yeah. And I. So I think there. I do think there's something interesting about it. I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
- [44:37]
Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
I personally think you had a white James Blonde. Like if Ian Fleming has written a series of best selling books, iconic books, about specifically a white agent, you know, a guy from MI6. If it's written that way, I do think you should just be true to the origin of the original books, personally. But I do take your point about Hamlet. Tommy, I've got a more difficult question for you. How do you feel about Kim Kardashian dating Sir Lewis Hamilton?
- [45:12]
Piers Morgan
Hey, listen, I think Kim Kardashian, she crushes it. I know there are a lot of people that have issues with the Kardashians, but they are the best business people certainly of my generation and of my time. So you know what? She's gone through pretty much everybody. She had to be married to Kanye west for. I don't know how long, right? She's got to deal with that day in and day out. So if this is what makes her happy, I say go for it. I love the family. I think they're kick ass business women. So I say, Kim, it's your time, go for it. You didn't, you know, you didn't pass the bar, but you're on to the next and I say go for it.
- [45:48]
Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
You know the problem, Tommy, is I'm here in the UK right now. We're looking at a track record of high profile British men who end up with American women, right? Let's think about King Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson. Let's think about Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. Let's think about Brooklyn Beckham and Nicole Peltz. So there's not a great record here. There is a firm lesson, surely, that this doesn't work. That's my concern. Now, I happen to love you and love Emily, but the track record of you American women pairing up with high profile British guys, it's horrendous.
- [46:37]
Emily Austin
Well, I reassure you, I probably won't end up with a high profile.
- [46:39]
Piers Morgan
Well, listen, Pierce, I think that this is our revenge.
- [46:47]
Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
It may well be the revenge, but we'll see how it plays out. Actually, Lewis Hamilton's a great guy. Two things about him which I really like. He's got the hardest handshake of any human being who I've ever shaken hands with, which is apparently down to a lot of the racing drivers do because of the grip on the steering wheel for the Grand Prix. And secondly, he's a massive Arsenal fan like me, which may leave all four of you cold. But Arsenal, our football team, having gone through 22 joyless years, are now favourites to win all four major football competitions in European football. And it couldn't be more thrilling. And if we do, Sir, Lewis and I will be the happiest men in the world. So Kim could be in for a very long, very fun time. Come, May. Gotta leave it there. Lovely to have you on. Thank you all very much and speak soon. Piers Morgan Uncensored is proudly independent. The only boss around here is me. If you enjoy our show, we ask for only one simple thing. Hit subscribe on YouTube and follow Piers Morgan Uncensored on Spotify and Apple podcasts. And in return, we will continue our mission to inform, irritate and entertain. And we'll do it all for free. Independent, uncensored media has never been more critical and we couldn't do it without you. Lifelock.
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Bill O'Reilly
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Piers Morgan
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Jason Lee
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Piers Morgan
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
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Emily Austin
I'm so relieved.
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Keith Edwards
No problem.
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Host/Interviewer (likely Piers Morgan or a co-host)
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Jason Lee
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