Piers Morgan Uncensored — “‘He Knows a LOT’ Boies Calls For Andrew's 'Safe Passage' To US”

With David Boies, Michael Tracey, Tara Palmeri, John Kiriakou, Mike Benz
Aired: February 17, 2026

Main Theme / Purpose

This episode dives deep into the ongoing Jeffrey Epstein scandal, particularly focusing on the accountability of high-profile associates such as Prince Andrew (Andrew Mountbatten Windsor), transparency around unreleased files, and the broader implications of powerful individuals escaping justice. The episode features an exclusive interview with renowned lawyer David Boies (who represented Virginia Giuffre in her civil case against Andrew), alongside a panel with journalist Michael Tracey, reporter Tara Palmeri, ex-CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou, and former State Department official Mike Benz.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Extent of the Epstein Scandal and File Secrecy

• Despite public assurances, millions of Epstein-related files remain withheld, fueling suspicion and conspiracy theories ([03:10–04:11]).
• Piers Morgan: “You can't hold back 3 million files and say that's all you're getting. Right. The conspiracy theories will continue to rage...” ([04:11]).
• FBI and congressional briefings have shown questionable redactions—sometimes hiding names of associates, not victims ([04:58]).

2. Debate Over the Narrative: Myth vs. Fact

• Michael Tracey challenges the prevailing narrative, questioning the evidence for a high-level, organized pedophilic conspiracy, and highlighting cases where claims by key accusers (e.g., Virginia Giuffre) were later recanted or found less credible ([06:29–09:53]).
• Tracey accuses lawyers and journalists, including David Boies and Tara Palmeri, of amplifying “mythology” rather than fact-based claims.
• Quote:

  “The central tenets of what I've taken to calling the Epstein mythology have simply never been supported by anything close to the degree of credible evidence...”
  —Michael Tracey ([06:29])

3. David Boies Interview: Evidence, Accountability, Justice

a. Scale of Evidence Against Epstein’s Circle

• Boies maintains overwhelming evidence of a large-scale sex trafficking scheme: testimony from dozens of girls, police records, photographs, and emails documenting witness tampering ([12:36]).

• “The idea that anybody can, with a straight face, deny that this was a massive sex trafficking scheme...is between absurd and pathetic.”
  —David Boies ([12:36])

b. File Transparency & Institutional Resistance

• Boies reinforces the lack of full transparency and the need for continued release of documents, blaming “powerful people, rich people, politically connected people” for resisting disclosure ([14:31]).
• He urges legislative and judicial intervention for deeper transparency ([14:31]).

c. Presidents Clinton & Trump

• Boies reaffirms: no evidence linking Clinton or Trump to sex trafficking, though he concedes their associations with Epstein were grave lapses of judgment ([16:32]).

d. Call for Investigations and Testimony

• Estimates 20+ men and women (not just men) have enough evidentiary exposure to warrant serious prosecutorial investigations, including Prince Andrew ([18:06]).
• Issues a fresh call for Andrew to testify under oath in the US, offering “safe passage” so fear of arrest cannot be used as an excuse ([19:08]):

  “Absolutely. I think he's got an obligation to tell what he knows. ...But he knows a lot.”
  —David Boies ([19:08])

e. Criminal Culpability of Andrew

• On whether Andrew committed crimes:

  “He certainly engaged in terribly wrongful conduct. He clearly knew that Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell were trafficking these girls ... But it's certainly something that was worth investigating.”
  —David Boies ([20:18])

f. King Charles’ Dilemma

• Boies empathizes with King Charles’ situation, balancing personal loyalty with public duty, after Andrew lost titles, homes, and status ([22:22]).

g. Other High-profile Associates (e.g., Lord Mandelson, Meghan Markle)

• Calls for testimony from all knowledgeable parties, including Lord Mandelson and, possibly, Meghan Markle ([23:22–24:41]).

h. Alan Dershowitz & Ghislaine Maxwell

• Criticizes Alan Dershowitz’s continued public defense of Epstein ([26:58]).
• On Maxwell: No grounds for clemency; if given immunity for testimony, failure to cooperate should mean contempt of court ([29:34]).

i. Public Cynicism & Justice

• Points to public disbelief in meaningful prosecutions as a tragedy for faith in the justice system ([31:58]).

4. Panel Reaction: Corruption, Intelligence, and Institutional Culpability

• John Kiriakou: Emphasizes cover-up and special treatment for Maxwell (minimum security prison being against standard policy for her crimes) ([33:00–34:27]).

  "She’s the only child sex criminal in a minimum security prison. It’s just wrong." ([34:27])

• Kiriakou and Benz suggest Epstein may have functioned as an ‘intelligence broker’—allegedly working for Mossad, CIA, MI5/6, etc. ([34:47–36:04]).
• Mike Benz: Highlights institutional failures, calling for an independent board to review and release files, analogizing with the JFK Records Act ([36:04–38:47]).

5. Combative Exchange: Tracey vs. Palmeri

• Michael Tracey lambasts legal actions as “extortionist” and criticizes media/journalistic coverage.
• Tara Palmeri counters, questioning Tracey’s motives:

  “Who do you work for, Michael?...You must be being paid by someone in power who does not like these accusations.” ([44:00])

• Tracey denies any improper funding—“I am paid by my readers on Substack, you idiot” ([45:43])—and claims those raising accusations ignore inconvenient evidence or misrepresent the legal reality.

6. Final Reflections: Systemic Challenges

• Palmeri affirms the difficulty and importance of legal pursuit when accused are the world’s most influential ([46:59]), highlighting the lack of faith in institutional self-policing.

• “How are we supposed to trust that power will police itself? We can't.”
  —Tara Palmeri ([48:43])

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On File Transparency:
  “You can't hold back 3 million files and say that's all you're getting. ...If they just went, ‘here you go,’...you can at least have the claim that you've been transparent.”
  —Piers Morgan ([04:11])

• On the Need for Testimony:
  “He knows a lot. ...Even if it was a little bit, I think he has an obligation to share that.”
  —David Boies, about Prince Andrew ([19:08])

• Boies on Maxwell’s Clemency Request:
  “There is no basis, none, for clemency. ...To give clemency or pardon to a person who played the role that she did...would be a travesty.”
  —David Boies ([29:34])

• On Cynicism in Justice:
  “I think that's a reflection of the cynicism that people have about our Justice Department today...that's a tragedy.”
  —David Boies ([31:58])

• Panel Tension:
  “Who do you work for, Michael? ...You must be being paid by someone in power who does not like these accusations...”
  —Tara Palmeri ([44:00])

  “I am paid by my readers on Substack, you idiot.”
  —Michael Tracey ([45:43])

Timestamps for Key Segments

• File Transparency & Secrecy: [03:10–05:57]
• Tracey’s Counter-Narrative (‘Epstein Mythology’): [06:29–09:53]
• Piers Morgan Defends Giuffre/Calls Out Andrew’s Lies: [10:10–12:36]
• David Boies Interview Opens: [12:36]
  • On evidence: [12:36–14:07]
  • On file transparency: [14:31–16:10]
  • On Clinton & Trump: [16:32]
  • On who should be investigated/testify: [18:06–20:01]
  • On Andrew’s crimes: [20:01–21:51]
  • On King Charles: [21:51–22:22]
  • On Meghan Markle/Lord Mandelson: [23:01–24:41]
  • On Dershowitz & Maxwell: [26:09–29:34]
  • On public cynicism: [31:41–32:34]
• Panel Reaction—Kiriakou, Benz, Mossad Allegations: [33:00–38:47]
• Panel Acrimony—Tracey vs. Palmeri: [43:04–46:43]
• Palmeri’s Final Reflection: [46:59–48:43]

Tone, Language & Atmosphere

• Uncompromising—Piers Morgan holds little back and pushes for answers.
• Contentious—Sharp, sometimes personal exchanges between panelists, especially Tracey and Palmeri.
• Serious/Grave—Boies’ legal outlook gives weight to the consequences and the systemic lack of justice.
• Cynical/Disillusioned—Cynicism towards government, justice, and journalism pervades much of the discussion.

Summary Takeaway

The episode is characterized by fierce debate over the facts vs. mythology of the Epstein case, deep frustration at institutional cover-up, and calls for genuine transparency and accountability. David Boies stands firm on the weight of evidence and urges further testimony and disclosure, specifically targeting Prince Andrew and other elites. The panel’s bitter fractures—particularly around how to interpret the evidence and the motivations of those driving the narrative—reflect the enduring controversy and complexity surrounding the Epstein fallout.