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Piers Morgan Uncensored
"I'm SICK Of It!" Iran War, Strait Of Hormuz Blockade & Tucker Carlson Row | With Megyn Kelly
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Megyn Kelly
It's kind of morphed into more like they have a biblical right to your support. And if you define it that way, which I think Tucker does, more and more people are like, well, I'm out. Beirut is starting to look like Gaza and you're unapologetic about it. And now I'm sick of it and I don't care. And I think Tucker doesn't care. And I think you don't care. Insane people don't care. Call me whatever the hell you want.
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Anna Kasparin
I don't care.
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Adam Mockler
Name one political concession. I have sat on panel after panel after panel with Scott Jennings as he lies about this war. I'm not playing the games where I have to be nice.
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Geraldo Rivera
Don't be a wise ass, okay? Stick to the substance.
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Anna Kasparin
Mockler, you have no reason to apologize. The reason why they're attacking your tone is because they can't attack your substance.
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Curtis Sliwa
Let me get the small violin out. I had stage four prostate cancer. I was shot five times with hollow point bullets on the orders of the Gotti. To the Gambinos, you keep the King and the queen there. We'll keep Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse here because that's your Disney World.
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Piers Morgan
Last week, two Jewish men were stabbed in a primarily Jewish London neighborhood. The Somali born suspect was heroically detained by police and thankfully this time both men survived. But attacks like this keep happening with disturbing frequency all over Europe and in the United States too. Only correct response is for everybody to emphatically reject antisemitism wherever they see it. Just as the correct response to an attempt on the President's life is to reject all forms of political violence. It's not a correct response to censor liberal opinions or liberal people on the basis that the attempted assassin had left wing positions. And the exact same thing can be said of criticizing Israel. In fact, conflating Israel and Judaism is part of the problem. And it's the people who claim to be most concerned about anti Semitism who keep doing it. Last week, Mark Levine called for so called Nazis, including Dave Smith and Tucker Carlson to be deplatformed using the exact same language that was once deployed against conservatives like him. Listen carefully to his words here.
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Curtis Sliwa
The hate crimes against Jews in Europe are through the roof. Against Jews in the United States are through the roof. Does anybody care about World War II and the Holocaust anymore? We're supposed to hate Israel, hate Netanyahu. The Jews got us in this war with Iran. The President has said over and over again, bs. I make the decisions as President of the United States.
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Piers Morgan
The Jews got us into the war with Iran, he says, drawing a straight line between a legitimate opinion and anti Semitic violence. But nobody says that. Many people blame Israel for involving the US in the war in Iran, mostly because of the overwhelming on the record evidence and reporting which substantiates that view. That's very different to blaming the religion and its followers. Mark Levine and others who share his views do this repeatedly. And it's dangerous. Violent attacks against Jewish people have been rising all over the world ever since the Israeli war on Hamas. Many people are rightly furious about the civilian death toll in Gaza. Some people are dangerous and insane. All the more reason to make crystal clear that Netanyahu is no more a spokesman for global Judaism than Cole Thomas Allen is a spokesman for the Democrats. A similar debate about the importance of words formed part of Tucker Carlson's much discussed interview with the New York Times.
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Megyn Kelly
From my understanding of my own, you know, I was just in Germany recently and you know, it was such a good reminder that the Holocaust didn't start with the gassing of Jews. It started with the dehumanization of Jews. It was language that was used. And again, that is what it I couldn't agree more.
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Curtis Sliwa
And that's why when you have a US Senator, a member of Congress, a US Ambassador waving away civilian deaths as if they don't matter, that's the language of genocide which results.
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Piers Morgan
And this is the lesson of the
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Curtis Sliwa
Holocaust in genocide itself.
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Piers Morgan
Well, right on cue, yesterday's Israel National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gavir posed with his birthday cake decorated with a golden noose and the word sometimes dreams come true, a grotesque celebration of his new two tier death penalty law which will target only Palestinians. Anybody misusing anti Semitism to deflect criticism of Israel is leaving Jewish people everywhere to shoulder the blame for the behavior of people like Ben gvir. I can't think of anything more likely to put them in harm's way than that. Well, my all star panel is standing by. But begin today's show with Megyn Kelly, host of the Megyn Kelly Show. Meghan, welcome back to Uncensored.
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Megyn Kelly
Great to be here, Piers.
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Piers Morgan
Mark Levine has posted on X folks, Carlson Tucker is, in my opinion, mentally ill. That is the explanation. It's not complicated what he says, incessant lying and conspiracies, obsessive hatred of Israel and Jews, his speech pattern and odd, rambling, strange, cackling, wild mood swings and all the rest. That's his latest diatribe about Tucker. He's done similar to you as well. And others. What do you make of that?
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Megyn Kelly
Frankly, I can't believe that Fox News allows him to continue going on the air, given what he's saying about mainstream conservative figures. It's really dangerous. And I think if Mark Levin and others want to figure out why there's so much negative feeling happening about Israel right now, they should start by looking at Israel instead of the people who are offering the criticism. You know, it's. It's not dissimilar entirely from the whole thing with Ben Shapiro going after you, going after me, deciding on his own who can and cannot be within the conservative movement. And then when some of us said, who died and made you king of conservatives? Who gets to decide who's in and out? They said you're an anti Semite. Wait, no, no, no, no, no, no. What you're saying is creating anti Semite. No, no, no. What he is saying is creating anti Semites. Anybody who purports to say, I will decide who, who can speak and who cannot and how they need to speak and how they can't automatically engenders a sort of revulsion by the thinking west because we have freedom in our blood and we don't work that way. Generally, that tends to be a very far left thing, the policing of the language. And there have been people who are very pro Israel, like Levin, like the folks over at Commentary magazine, who for a very long time now have been trying to conflate anti Zionism is anti Semitism. And then a debate unfolded about what is anti Zionism, because many of us thought it was. Do you believe that Israel, you know, is a country like they deserve to have a place to live? It's kind of morphed into more like they have a biblical right to your support for whatever portion of the Middle east they wanna occupy. And if you define it that way, which I think Tucker does, more and more people are like, well, I'm out. I'm not saying that they don't have a right to dominate the Middle east, and they don't have a right to be in those particular borders any more than the United States has a right to be in its particular borders. You know, over the course of hundreds of years, these things change. There's not a biblical right that I need to support as a Christian, but it has been the most ardently pro Israel people like the Commentary magazine, people like Mark Levin who have been trying to intentionally make that conflation, and it's just not true. You go on your show regularly and criticize your government and the United States. I do the same. I mean, if you counted up all the criticisms I've had of, obviously the Joe Biden administration, the Obama administration, but also the Trump administrations, we'd be here for months. But I can't do the same against Bibi Netanyahu. I can't do the same against Israel because I'm a Christian or because it makes me an anti Semite. Thinking people know that's a lie and it makes them recoil.
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Piers Morgan
Yeah, and I think the people like Mark Levin, who starting that clip that I show with, you know, people are trying to blame the Jews. They're not. I mean, look, there are some people out there who are genuinely anti Semitic who will definitely blame the Jews for everything and hate Jewish people. Of course they are. They're genuine anti Semites. But the people he's alluding to in that rant of his are actually people who've criticized the Israeli government and people like Ben Gvir, whose wife gives him a birthday cake for his 50th birthday only two days ago, which has a golden noose on it, and they celebrate this. This is psychopathic behavior. And I've been pointing this out about Smodrich and Ben GVIR for a while. You know, for those who are not as up to speed with the history of what happened here. Netanyahu only got back into power by getting into bed with some extremely dark individuals like Smodrich and Ben gvir, whose game plan really is to get all the Palestinians out of the west bank, out of Gaza and take it all over themselves. They are supremacists in that sense. And the idea that somehow you conflate criticism of those people working in a very, very hard line Israeli government doing some stuff which most people, most decent minded people find increasingly unacceptable, that you suddenly twist that into, well, it's blaming the Jews and this is an anti Jewish thing, as if somehow it's about the religion of anybody. It's completely shameful and outrageous.
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Megyn Kelly
No, they're using it as an obvious tactic to stop us from leveling those criticisms. And I will tell you, as somebody who's been defensive largely of Israel over the past few years in its retaliatory campaign against Hamas, I'm disgusted by this because this guy puts the truth to what I had previously believed was a lie about Israel. You know, I didn't get into the day today that much on what was happening in Gaza, but I generally felt like, you know what, they attacked Israel. It was absolutely brutal. It was a terrorist attack. And you and I had a discussion about. Do they really need a proportionate response? Israel, we wouldn't have done that as the United States. I meant that at the time I looked at Israel and perceived its behavior in good faith. Like these. This is a people that was attacked like we were attacked on 9, 11. And they have every right to go and, you know, harshly defend themselves against the group of people that did it. No, it's, it's, it's so far beyond that. They genuinely don't seem to care about the tens of thousands of civilians, including children, including members of the press, including people who are obviously innocent. And enough time goes by peers and even people like me who were previously pro Israel. See, wait a minute, they're lying. They're using that, the, the horror of 10, 7 to justify their own terrible behavior every day thereafter. And you see this camera, you can't avoid it. The other, the other piece of the card is what's happening now in Iran, where President Trump, I think having realized this was a massive mistake, is trying repeatedly to get us out of it. The United States. And why can't we? Because our truly close personal ally, Israel, won't let us. Every time he tries to declare a peace, they start bombing Lebanon again. And Iran says, you know what? There's no peace deal. This was part of it. We know it was part of it because the Pakistani Prime Minister tweeted that out the night of the ceasefire saying Lebanon is part of it. And only once Israel called Trump, Netanyahu, saying, hey, we really want to keep bombing Lebanon and we're not going to agree not to, did it suddenly get otherized. And that's been one of the main sticking points in actually having a ceasefire ever since Israel at every turn, turns to warlike behavior, more deaths of civilians. Look at the journalists who are being killed in Lebanon, not to mention the children who are getting bombed. Some of it is on camera and every time just says, oh, well, we tried not to. Well, I listened to that. I listened to that for a good year, two years. And now I see you doing it in location after location, and Lebanon and Beirut is starting to look like Gaza, and you're unapologetic about it, and you won't work with us. And you definitely goaded our president into this, though he has agency and is equally to blame. And now I'm sick of it. And I don't care. And I think Tucker doesn't care. And I think you don't care. Insane people don't care. Call me whatever the hell you want. I don't care. I'VE been called a bigot by the trans people. I've been called a racist by the Blmers. I've been called now an anti Semite by you folks.
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Piers Morgan
Yeah, it's the same tactic, isn't it?
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Megyn Kelly
Truly disgusting person. Or I just have political takes based on reality that are mainstream now.
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Piers Morgan
Yeah, it's the same. It's the same tactic each time. It's actually a tactic of enforcing censorship. What they're trying to do is bully people like me and you and into not being critical of things like Israel's policy in Lebanon or Gaza, or as you say, criticism of the transgender arguments, particularly surrounding women's sport, which was, to me, history will look back and go, who on earth ever defended that nonsense, you know, to other issues involving the BLM riots, for example, when they happened. You could have a perfectly legitimate position being outraged about what happened to George Floyd and also think the rioting that followed was outrageous. And there was a double standard about the way those rioters got treated compared to, say, the January 6th rioters. All these things, if you're intellectually honest, you can be honest about all of these things separately. And what happens is, as you said, you get called anti Semitic, transphobic, racist, and it's a deliberate tactic to silence us. And it's a really insidious one.
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Megyn Kelly
The anti Semitic charge is a little different from the other charges in the following way. In my experience, because I'm new to this, I've been very pro Israel, and I'm in no way an anti Semite. Absolutely not. And there actually is zero evidence to the contrary, other than I continue to be friends with Tucker Carlson. Okay, great. But it's different from the others because on the right, I think most people dismiss, okay, racism. We're used to them saying that whenever we get critical of, like, these affirmative action programs or whatever, trans thing, yes, they say transphobe, bigot, whatever. None of us take that seriously. But being called an anti Semite on the right has actually caused many of us pause because the right has been very associated with being pro Israel since as long as I was at Fox, which started in 2004. Like you were kind of expected to be pro Israel, certainly as a Fox News anchor, but just as a conservative in America from that point forward. And so it's a little bizarre to hear your own side use those terms against you. But what I've realized now is that it's because Israel, through its emissaries like aipac, has put dollars into the pockets of virtually all of our politicians, left and right here in America. And they will not go down without a fight. They have such a large presence here in the United States, which is totally antithetical to the way that our founding fathers envisioned our role in the world. They did not want foreign influence here in the United States of America. They, they knew you couldn't serve two masters at once, they understood would create this sort of resentment for the one. And it's. But it's so ubiquitous now that they actually do have a lot of purchase. There's a guy named Brad Parscal who's registered as a foreign agent for Israel, who's helping run Salem Media, which hosts several of our large podcasts now. And he is 100%, I believe, behind a lot of the online targeting that people like me and Tucker and probably you peers are getting right now. So what happens with the Israel crowd is that they have better funding and they're much more organized than the Blmers or the trans lobby. So I don't know what your social media is like, but I have gotten completely deluged with bots. And oh, Ben Shapiro was right and you know, they're bots. They all said the same tweet. It happened to Kenneth Owens. And so you feel it more. And that's fine. I've been targeted by many people. They will never shut me up or change my pov. But there are people who have smaller platforms who are just starting to ascend in this space, or just civilians who have opinions like ours who also get pummeled and see us being made examples of. And so it's really deeply pernicious and dangerous. And not everybody's like you or Tucker or me, who our response to that is a massive middle finger to these people. I'd rather lose every single audience member than bend the knee to them, which isn't gonna happen. But we're. They're trying to make examples of us to threaten and scam.
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Piers Morgan
Yeah, and the other thing I would say, the other thing I would say is, you know, you and Tucker are very proudly and firmly conservative right figures in America and two of the most prominent in the country. I've never been that or position myself in that way. I consider myself to be a centrist, really. You know, I used to run a reasonably left wing newspaper in the uk, the Daily Mirror. I'm certainly not conservative right by any normal metric. There have been a lot of crossover points. I think the woke explosion, for example, brought a lot of us together on all that stuff. So lots of things that I find myself agreeing with you about. And there are some things you and I wouldn't agree about. But what this leads me just into the other point I'm going to make, which is the incendiary nature of political rhetoric now I just sense is getting completely out of hand and is driven by an inherent intellectual dishonesty, that people are just getting more and more venomous in their rhetoric. And I don't exclude the president from this. Right. You know, I've known him a long time. I consider him a friend. I was texting with him last week about the royals in which he showed the very best of President Trump. He was very warm and friendly and cracking jokes and very charming. And then other times in the last few weeks, he's gone pretty berserk on social media and talked about annihilating 90 million people and so on in Iran. What do you feel about this general debate about rhetoric, political rhetoric, particularly from those political leaders?
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Megyn Kelly
Well, I mean, I reject the left, the leftist accusation that, you know, having controversial opinions is causing mass shootings and so, so on and so forth. You know, I just don't generally think. I think there are crazies out there who do what they're going to do. And it's unfortunate. And even if, like some angry rhetoric was somehow incentivizing some bad behavior, it's, this is America. You can say what you want to say. You know, it's like very hard to police that. However, I do think the language and behavior that like, truly dehumanizes people. And I'll just give you the latest example, and by that I don't mean, you know, like, I reject BLM or, you know, Trump is terrible. It's the stuff like those young high school girls on these now viral videos who are playing the audio of Charlie Kirk's assassination, his last few words and then the sound of the bullets ringing out as the changeover music from their before pictures, getting ready for the prom to the after with their prom gonza and their makeup and hair done, that is dehumanizing. Like, that stuff is genuinely dangerous. The celebrations of Luigi Mangioni, the hundreds of TikTok videos of people saying, like, the shooter at the Trump assassination attempt most recent, needed to get a better plan and better aim. How sad people were that he didn't get murdered. You know, like, that's effing crazy, Piers. And that stuff truly, I think, is leading us down a really dangerous path because we've always had psychos. But the open celebration of the attempted assassinations is only going to lead to more of them. And we're now at a place where you've got some 20% of Young Liberals thinking political violence is okay. They see it, I think it's 6% of conservatives. So there is an imbalance there, although it's not entirely one sided. And as somebody who, yes, I am more right leaning for sure in my ideology, but I'm a registered independent, so I'm not a Republican. I would vote for both sides and I have voted for both sides, but I see that it is the right that is mostly dying as a result of this. It has to stop. Like it really has to stop. I think people are getting scared right out of the political arena.
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Piers Morgan
Just finally, Megan, we're going to wrap up, but Donald Trump and Iran, it looks to me like he is desperate to get out of this with any kind of victory that he can. But at the moment, Iran is just not playing ball and has managed to work out that the control of the Strait of Hormuz is all they really need to do to string this out as long as they like and cause enormous damage. What should Trump be doing, do you think? I mean, if I was advising him, I'd be like, you know something, if this goes on for another few months, you can kiss goodbye to the House and the Senate in November. This is going to be enormous.
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Megyn Kelly
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Piers Morgan
be politically damaging for you, for the Republicans, for everything. And there's no easy way to sort this. You should just claim victory and get out. Say we've smashed up their military, we've put back their nuclear aspirations, you know, however long you want to put a number on it, just get out of here. I don't see any upside in this being strung out through the summer, do you?
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Megyn Kelly
No. This has been a disaster for the Trump administration and for our country and for the world. I mean, the global fuel supply. Just take a look at the numbers. You've got American European Airlines, Middle east airlines, now completely revamping their forecast for this year. We reported this morning that American Airlines had projected a $4 billion profit expected this year. It's all been wiped out, they said the entire thing has been wiped out by the rising price of jet fuel. Spirit Airlines just went over here in America. They were already struggling for years, but this didn't help. And all of that's gonna eventually get passed on to the consumer. So. And that's. And that's just one example. That's airline fuel. I mean, forget prices at the actual gas pump and the cost of oil in general, which tends to skyrocket energy and other prices. All of that's coming even if we end the war today. So my best advice to the president would be give the Iranians the deal they want. They seem to be willing to deal on the Strait of Hormuz, which of course is an absurd place to be. It was open before this war. If we had just left them alone, we would never have this problem. But give them a deal to get that thing back open, because it does need to open back up. And let them give you a fig leaf on nuclear ambitions. Because, look, we already devastated their ability to develop a nuclear weapon back in June with the. With a strike on the plants. We know that. We know they were nowhere near getting a nuclear bomb from our own intelligence community told that to President Trump just before we unleash this war on them. So we don't need much from the Iranians on that front. They haven't gotten better able to produce a nuke as a result of this war. Just get out. Let them give us some stupid fig leaf that we can declare as somehow a victory. Oh, it's better than Obama's joint, you know, agreement and reopen the strait, which is the number one thing you did decimate pie pieces of their military.
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Curtis Sliwa
Great.
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Megyn Kelly
Call it a win. This is a nightmare. We won't. Don't have to get into the specifics, but get out. Just get out. And what you can see, Piers, is he knows that. He knows that, but the Iranians know it too, and they won't just bend the knee. And Trump is not used to being in this position. He's used to bullying his way out of everything. And these guys cannot be bullied. And he doesn't know what to do. He's great at shit talking, and he's really not great at winding up wars that he starts by choice. That's what we're learning.
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Piers Morgan
Yeah, it's hard to disagree. Megyn Kelly, always brilliant to have you on uncensored. Thank you so much.
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Megyn Kelly
Thanks for having me. See you soon.
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Piers Morgan
Well, listening patiently and ready to debate, I'm joined by my panel, Curtis Sliwa. He's the Guardian Angels founder and former Republican candidate for mayor of New York, Geraldo Rivera, the correspondent at large of News Nation. Adam Mokler, political commentator and Midas Touch contributor, and Anna Kasparin, host and executive Producer of the Young Turks. Geraldo, let me start with you. You've always struck me as a reasonable voice in America in a cacophony of mayhem. This war in Iran, from where I'm looking, and I raised these concerns after day one, and nothing has shaken my belief. It looks to me like Donald Trump has got into something which has turned out to be a lot more difficult than he thought it would be, perhaps because the Israelis had assured him it would be easier than this and that now he's in a position where if he carries on, it's politically disastrous, economically disastrous, and if he gets out, he'll have the accusation that it's all been a waste of time and a failure. You know Trump extremely well. You've known him longer than I have. What would you be advising him right now?
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Geraldo Rivera
I think Pier is nice to see you. I think that, first of all, now that there are dueling blockades, now that we are blockading Iran and their commerce, and they are, of course, blockading the world's oil supply, 20% of the world's oil supply, you have this. I think that the blockade by the United States of Iran and its. And its commerce was a brilliant move and a losing hand. I think that the war has gone not the way anyone in the United States side wanted it to. It's been bloodier, more prolonged, seemingly more pointless, has no end in sight. But now that you have this situation in the. In the strait, in the Persian Gulf, generally, I think that the blockade, the American blockade of Iran is more impactful than the Iranian blockade, even though they are stopping the world's oil supply. I think what has to happen is what appears to be happening now with this Project Freedom using as an excuse the humanitarian needs of the crews of all the vessels that have been stranded because of the Iranian blockade, using their. The fact they've been on these vessels now for many weeks with no end in sight, I think that the United States Navy has to be aggressive. And let's see, Iran says it has the Straits of Hormuz closed with its drones and its small craft and et cetera. Let's test that. I think that one more time, once more into the. Into the. Into the breach. I think that the United States has to try and see whether or not Iran has the capacity to close the strait. I believe that a kinetic response to any actions against any neutral ship has to happen, has to be dramatic, has to be overwhelming, has to be soon, or we leave with our tail between our legs.
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Piers Morgan
Okay, I meant to mention earlier, forgive me, Deborah Lee, conservative, is also joining us. Deborah, nice to see you. Sorry, the eagle eyed viewers would have seen five faces pop up and thought, who's the other one? So it's Deborah. Welcome back. Anna Kasparin, welcome back to you. I want to play a clip from John Bolton which is kind of summing up what a lot of people on his side of the argument are feeling right now. Let's take a look at this. Okay, Ambassador, who is going to blank
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Geraldo Rivera
first here, how does this finish?
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John Bolton
Well, it's anybody's guess at this point. I think the United States holds a great advantage here, but it hasn't finished the job that was started. But my definition of finishing the job is ousting the regime in Tehran. But there are steps less than that that Trump could take and I'm a little surprised that he hasn't done it. For example, if he were to use military force to open the Strait of Hormuz, which does not involve going back to the kinds of attacks we saw three or four weeks ago, if he could do that, but keep the blockade on Iranian oil shipments, that would continue to put a huge financial squeeze on Iran, but would get a lot of much needed oil out of the Gulf and into international markets. I think that is certainly something he can do to up the pressure, keep things moving and avoid having to make some of the choices he clearly doesn't want to make and shouldn't have to make.
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Piers Morgan
I mean, Anna, this comes with a backdrop, as I discussed with Megyn Kelly, where, you know, you've got the Israelis itching to get back into fighting in Iran. They're making no secret of that already. A lot of stuff going on again in Lebanon. You know, there are conflicting agendas at play here. Trump getting a lot of pressure from all sides. A lot of people wanting to end this. Right now, over 60% of Americans are not supportive of this war in Iran. Unprecedented negative numbers for a military conflict like this. What do you make of where we are and what do you think is going to happen here?
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Anna Kasparin
Well, I think that the only way to secure the opening of the Strait of Hormuz so you have transit of incredibly important cargo, including energy supply that the globe needs, is to do so diplomatically. If there were a military option to do so, I believe that that military option would have been used already. But we don't have that military option. Just to give you a comparison, when the United States was at the height of the war in Iraq, we had about 250,000 soldiers dedicated to that war. Right now we have what, 10 to 15,000 military personnel? We're not even talking about the entire number of troops being in combat or even able to engage in combat in the Middle east right now as we speak. So the point that I'm trying to make is there is no military option. When you look at the military weaponry we have, when you look at our Thaad missile interceptor system and the fact that we've depleted 80% of our missile interceptors, that puts our troops at a significant disadvantage. And I'm not the one saying this. The Wall Street Journal reported very specific details about how much of our weaponry and interceptors have been depleted already. And we do not have the manufacturing capacity to build quick enough in order to basically withstand the very cheap drones that Iran is able to quickly produce. So the point that I'm trying to make here, Pierce, is that you have to reach an agreement diplomatically and leaders lead, meaning that President Donald Trump has the leverage, has the power to force this in a diplomatic fashion. He just needs to basically push Israel aside and actually be a leader, not have Israel dictate our foreign policy.
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Piers Morgan
Curtis Sliwa, welcome to you to uncensored. You're a former Republican candidate for mayor of New York, and I should just say at this point, my thoughts go out to Rudy Giuliani, former mayor of New York, and to his family. He's in critical condition in hospital, which was very sad news in the last few days. And I interviewed him actually on our censored only two weeks ago. So my best wishes to him and his family and hope he comes through that. But in terms of this war, a lot of Republicans I've been talking to are now having serious doubts about this. The longer it goes on. We were assured it was going to be over in two to three weeks, then six weeks. And now here we are over two months into this with no sign of it coming to any end anytime soon. And the obvious economic damage is causing with gas prices and with inevitably food prices because of the loss of fertilizer that's being held up and so on. What do you make of it? Are you still supportive of this war? Do you think, as John Bolton does, that now you're in it, you've got to finish it and maybe trying to affect regime change as well.
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Curtis Sliwa
Well, Pierce, I'm happy that you played John Bolton, who was the national security adviser for Trump in his first four years, because remember, it was Bolton who barged into the president's office and said, Mr. President, you have to launch the air Force because the Iranians just shot down a very expensive drone over the Straits of Hormuz. And the president, Trump said, it's unmanned. Right. Where's the proportionality? And Bolton wanted us to just bomb, bomb, bomb Iran. He's a war hawk. That's why I'm shocked that President Trump, who didn't get, who kept us out of these ongoing foreign disputes, did not get us involved, has suddenly flipped his grip and now he's Warhawk number one. And we all know why he's been pushed into this. Bibi, an excellent salesman, convince them that if you come in with us, there will be regime change, there will be insurrection in the streets. Even though our CIA and Marco Rubio told the President the next day after that meeting, that's not going to happen. And we see that Trump got bamboozled by Bibi. This is Bibi's war. We should not be involved in this.
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Piers Morgan
Debra Lee, are you supportive still of this war?
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Deborah Lee
Well, first off, this is obvious, not Bibi's war. Let's not throw Trump. Trump is a sovereign leader of the United States of America. He's our president. All of his decisions are his own. There's nobody who can bully him into a war. Every decision he makes, even the bad ones, are because he solely wanted to do them. As far as this war, as somebody who has wanted to see the end of the Iranian regime or the Islamic Iranian regime for a very long time, since childhood, growing up around Jews who fled from Iran very young, I'm kind of surprised that the war is still going on at this point. And as far as Anna said earlier, diplomatically, ideally this would be a diplomatic exit, but a big challenge that we've seen. I can't attest to the exact numbers, but they prepared for this exact situation. There are factions split across the entire country. So even if the United States were to make a deal with somebody in Tehran, there could be a separate faction up in the north or in the south or somewhere that would challenge a diplomatic exit that would really create safety for the entire region. So at this point, I never thought that they were actually going to go after the Ayatollah. That was shocking for me. I didn't think that the United States of America would really take that chance. Not knowing that we can guarantee regime change. Would I love regime change? Absolutely. Do I see a clear off ramp for this war? Absolutely not. But we cannot just surrender to Iran because simply with flights, I'm flying to Israel in a few weeks. If we tell Iran that at any point they launch ballistic missiles, they can shut down airfare for the entire Middle east can take complete control of the Strait of Hormuz. That is a dangerous position to leave them in. So I think we're at a really unfortunate time. But that's why I trust the leadership that I voted for in this administration. I trust them to get out of this in the best way possible. And at the very least, if we do get out without no more additional changes, it was avenging the close to 1,000Americans who've been murdered by the Islamic regime over the last 47 years. So it wouldn't be a total loss.
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Piers Morgan
You know, when you say you trust this administration, okay, but you voted for them. And Donald Trump couldn't have been clearer when he campaigned to be president in 2024. He was not going to take America into any more of these Middle Eastern wars. And then within a year or so, he's gone into the biggest one imaginable. And we've all seen the consequences.
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Deborah Lee
Well, President Trump has also been very clear that he will not allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. And Iran is committed to a nuclear weapon. I know we destroyed a lot of their weaponry last June. That was miraculous. But at the same time, they're not going to stop building, they're not going to stop enriching uranium. We saw this with the Obama Iran nuclear deal, which is horrible. They are committed to building nuclear weapons and trying to destroy the Western part of this world with everything that they got. They will divert every resource to try and destroy Western civilization. And so I'm not surprised that we need to keep our, for lack of a better word, our knee on their necks to make sure that they are not trying to destroy the world that we know and love.
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Piers Morgan
Yeah, I'm just not quite sure whose knee is on whose neck at the moment, because it looks to me like, as I've been saying regularly, there's an asymmetric war going on. One is the military conflict, which America and Israel have overwhelming superiority. And I don't doubt for a moment they've caused enormous damage to Iran's military. But there's also the economic war being waged around this Strait of Hormuz, which has enormous global consequences, as we're seeing. And at the moment, that strait remains shut. Despite all the protestation and late night rage tweets from the President, there seems to be very little he can do to get it open again. Let me bring in Adam Mockler. Welcome to Uncensored. Adam, you've obviously hit the headlines in the last few days. For those who haven't Seen it. I think it's up there with my Russell Brand clip as the two most memed and republished clips of the week. So let's take a look at your one. This is you with Scott Jennings at cnn.
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Geraldo Rivera
I mean, honestly, they have been at
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Megyn Kelly
war with us for 47 years.
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Adam Mockler
We all know that Scott Jennings is more than happy to defend a war with a country that starts with the letters IRA that we are currently failing that is going to put us trillions and trillions of dollars more in debt. I was only a few years old while you were in the administration defending prior endless wars. Now this war is failing. Eight weeks is endless to you. Okay, you said it was going to six weeks.
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Geraldo Rivera
You have the attention span of a net.
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Adam Mockler
I debated you on TV four to six weeks ago and you said we were weeks away from it. Now you're making condescending remarks because you can't defend the fact that this war is not going your way. Wait one more time.
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Geraldo Rivera
Not going.
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Piers Morgan
Not going.
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Adam Mockler
One political concession.
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John Bolton
Honestly, I'm not.
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Piers Morgan
I'm not going to have this guy.
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Deborah Lee
Everybody, everybody hang tight. Okay, now, everybody calm down.
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Piers Morgan
Okay, now as somebody who was repeatedly actually manhandled by Russell Brand, I think your manhandling was at least a little bit removed. There was daylight between your arms and Scott Jennings. But what was interesting about the exchange to me was not that he was not entitled to get annoyed with the way you were gesticulated. I probably would have done, too, but I've not seen him that rattled. Scott Jennings is normally ice cool on that panel show. I watch it a lot. I think he's a really interesting commentator for the Right on cnn. It's an unusual beast. They don't have many of them. And he holds his own often against three or four people. And on this occasion, Geraldo was also on the panel, I noted. And we'll come to Geraldo for his view of it in a minute. But I haven't seen Scott Jennings react like that to anybody. And that to me in the same way that I'm seeing with Donald Trump's slightly erratic and, you know, quite angry and testy social media activity in the last few weeks. It just looks to me like people have gone all in on this war in Iran. Now, it's not playing out in any way that they predicted or told everybody that it was going to play out. They're getting testy. They're getting quite angry about it, which is a natural human reaction, but is increasingly obvious. And I thought your exchange with Scott was indicative of that. What did you think.
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Adam Mockler
I don't want to take away from the point that I was making in the question that I was asking in that moment, because I have sat on panel after panel after panel with Scott Jennings as he lies about this war, not bound by any facts whatsoever, as he makes failed predictions, not bound by any timelines whatsoever. And as he condescends and trolls and provokes everyone else on the panel. I mean, even in the same panel, he made fun of my bedtime, like, five minutes earlier. So this is a man that's not bound by any facts of. Or timelines or rules. So I said, I'm not going to be bound by rules, that my opponent is not playing it. So you can say that I was gesticulating a bit too much. That's a fair criticism. But he could have politely asked me to tone it down. That is not what he did. He snapped because he realized he does not have an answer to the simple question. Name one political concession we've gotten from Iran 60 days into this war. We've had moving, shifting timelines, shifting objectives for this war. They've been lowering the threshold for what victory is considered as. And just because I asked the question of, hey, what concessions have we gotten? That pisses him off. We've seen billions of dollars spent. We saw dozens of people, Thousands of people in Iran have died, tens of thousands. But we saw over a dozen US Soldiers die. So I'm gonna continue to ask this very same question. What political concessions have we gotten from Iran 60 days into this war? The answer is absolutely none. And he knows the answer is none. That's why he freaked out.
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Piers Morgan
Yeah, I think it's a perfectly reasonable.
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Anna Kasparin
You should apologize.
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Piers Morgan
No, no.
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Anna Kasparin
Apologize for your chance.
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Piers Morgan
No, I don't think you should be apologizing. No. I mean, let me bring Geraldo in first, though, because, Geraldo, you were on the panel. I want to play your reaction on News Nation to what you saw on that panel.
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Geraldo Rivera
The kid was a dick. I mean, he smart, eloquent, had his argument together, had obviously debated Scott before, and he was really being a dick. I mean, it was like, shut up. You know, go out, Go out. Get some life experience.
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Piers Morgan
How many different. I wasn't sure if you were talking about Chris Cuomo there, actually. Geraldo, clarify. You were talking actually about Adam Mockler.
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Adam Mockler
You still think so?
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Piers Morgan
Well, Adam, I mean, what do you want to say to Geraldo? He called you a dick. You have a response.
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Adam Mockler
Yeah, it's not a dick. To try to force a critical question and try to force the conversation to where the American people want it. Heraldo, you were there when Scott made fun of my bedtime five minutes earlier. Again, this is somebody not bound by any rules whatsoever on this show. He's able to lie over and over. Why should I be bound by some decorum? My opponents aren't bound by. Do you see what I'm saying? It's not the 80s anymore. It's not even 2010 anymore. We are in a new era where we are playing in a reciprocal manner. So I'm not playing the games where I have to be nice. And regarding life experience, really quickly, you have a whole life of experience, and you're on the same panels as me. We're on the same shows. We have a show last week, we have a show today. So life experience, what has it gotten you? I don't know.
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Piers Morgan
All right, Geraldo, your life experience has got you nowhere. Says the. Says the young dick.
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Geraldo Rivera
It's got me a career that's lasted 56 years so far and counting. And aside from 10 Emmys and a few other trinkets, now you're on the same panels. Adam, listen, don't be a wise ass, okay? I said to you in the commercial break that immediately followed your confrontation with Scott that I thought that you made some good points. The problem is that you can be very obnoxious in your presentation. Now, sometimes being obnoxious can lead to a whole career. But I advise you strongly because you're a smart kid and you obviously prepared, you know, for the debate. You know, stick to that. Stick to the substance, because I think that you do have a future in terms of Scott Jennings. I like Scott very much. I didn't know him before the CNN experience. You know, fun talking to him in the green room before the show and then see the confrontation, this spontaneous combustion. I was surprised. I was surprised by the fact that Scott reacted as he did. But then just listening to Adam, he can be very grating, and sometimes that works. I remember Morton Downey and a bunch of others from daytime TV and so forth. But I strongly advise you to stick to the substance because you can. As I indicated in the commercial break following the confrontation, you can be a voice for a generation that has so far been unable to penetrate into the mainstream media. That's my opinion.
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Adam Mockler
This is so indicative of the double standards that we see all throughout the media. I mean, you went on that whole ramp, but you didn't mention that Scott Jennings made fun of my bedtime or whatever. Not that I care, but he's the one who has an obnoxious air.
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Piers Morgan
What did he say about your bedtime? I missed that.
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Adam Mockler
So I asked him a question five minutes before I said, hey, what concession has Iran gotten? And he says, aren't you a little bit up past your bedtime or something? He started with the condescending jabs first.
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Piers Morgan
To be fair, Adam, you are. You are literally beaming into this show from your bedroom.
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Adam Mockler
It's a hotel room. I'm currently at a hotel room.
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Piers Morgan
But, I mean, either way, it's not the best way to refute the suggestion that it's past your bedtime.
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Adam Mockler
What are you talking about? I'm in a hotel room in New York because I have CNN again tonight.
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Piers Morgan
It's a joke. You're reacting a bit. You're acting a bit. You're acting a bit like Scott did the other day. So take a chill pill. You just. You happen to have a bed behind you as you're refuting the charge that is past your bedtime. I'm just making a joke.
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Adam Mockler
That's a good joke. One final thing. I'm 23. Maybe my youthful arrogance will drop with time, but there's no excuse for Scott Jennings to be on air all the time making remarks that everybody else. And then the moment somebody gives it back, he can dish it, but he can't take it. The moment somebody tries to force the question, what political concession have we gotten from Iran? He gets worked up.
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Piers Morgan
So, yeah, well, okay, look, I don't know Scott Jennings at all. I never met him. I think he's a very effective communicator on a network, cnn, that when I was there, was very, very, very cautious about revealing any kind of partisan bias, but now has a panel show where quite often on that show, they have four on one side and Scott Jennings. So I actually feel like he puts up a pretty good fight given he's often heavily outnumbered. But, Anna, on a sort of slightly wider point here, it's very interesting to me. I just interviewed Megyn Kelly for 20 minutes at the start of this show, and I could have been talking to you about some of these issues. Right. Same with Tucker Carlson. A lot of you have blended now into a weird family of people who have a lot of agreement about a lot of things. Iran, the influence of Israel, Donald Trump and his mistake, as you see it, and so on. Did you think a time would come when you would be siding rhetorically on these big, big issues with so many who are on the conservative right? And what does that tell you about the state of the conservative right when you've got people like Mark Levin saying Tucker's mentally ill, everyone trashing Candace Owens and her trashing everybody else. There is a real split going on on the conservative right and there's you firmly on the left as you've always been, but now siding rhetorically to me, it seems, on these big issues with people that would historically have been the complete opposite to you.
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Anna Kasparin
I'm going to get back to your question in just one second. But I have to say the debate about tone is the exact type of distraction that Zionists are hoping for. So you don't actually debate the substance. Mockler, your tone was fine. Your hand was nowhere near his face. You have no reason to apologize. The reason why they're attacking your tone is because they can't attack your substance. Now, moving on to Pierce's question.
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Deborah Lee
Somehow blame Zionist for that. That's mental illness, but okay.
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Anna Kasparin
Yeah, okay, right. Oh, you're calling mercy on the media. Do you want to go there? Do you want to go there?
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Deborah Lee
What does blaming Zionist have to do with.
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Anna Kasparin
I'm not talking to you. I'm going to answer Pierce's question calmly and not let you bait me, because that's what you guys said.
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Deborah Lee
I hope you can.
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Anna Kasparin
Pierce, to answer your question, I think that right now it's not really a question of left versus right on this issue. It's a question of good versus evil, America first versus a foreign country first. And right now, this war is something that, as Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister of Israel, has said repeatedly, has been a dream of his for decades. And he finally got his dream to the detriment of the American people, since we're the ones paying for this war. We're the ones who lost 13 soldiers as a result of the this war, and we shouldn't be fighting it. And so I think, Tucker, I think Megyn Kelly, I think people like me and Cenk, regardless of our political views overall, look at this war, look at the undue influence of Israel over our government and foreign policy. And we have a problem with that. We are America first. We have some very real problems here within our own borders that are not being addressed at all. Even though President Trump alleged that he was gonna address those issues, and in fact, the very issues that people voted for him on, including doing something about affordability, he has only made worse by agreeing to enter this war. So I think that's what's going on. Why there's a little bit of agreement when it comes to big picture issues like whether or not our leadership is America first, whether or not, our foreign policy is serving us. And whether or not we really want to continue this alliance with a country that has only sucked our resources and forced us into wars that we shouldn't be fighting.
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Piers Morgan
Okay, Debra Lee, what was the point you were trying to make
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Deborah Lee
at the beginning? She referenced that this is Zionist distraction to talk about tone. And I was just pointing out that to blame Zionists for pointing out the tone. This was a very viral interaction between Adam and Scott. A lot of people had a lot of opinions. That's the kind of mental illness that we ascribed, anti Semitism, where it rots your brain. And you start seeing these connections where they come from nowhere. And something very worth mentioning is somebody who's very passionate about making sure that Republicans win in this country for the midterms. And if we stop this war tomorrow, that would really not move the needle for the Republican Party in terms of the midterms. And the biggest reason is because we have these rogue liberal activist judges who consistently overturn every single win from the Trump administration. And so until we rein back these activist judges in our country and assure that we can actually have the long lasting wins that we voted for, lasting in this country, that is the biggest challenge for the midterms. Americans are not feeling the most challenging.
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Piers Morgan
Honestly, I don't think that's going to be the problem. I think the problem for the midterms is going to be if this war drags on with all the economic havoc it's causing, then what's going to happen is that regular Americans are going to look at two promises Donald Trump made. Not to drag America into pointless, expensive Middle Eastern wars and to focus on America first and getting the cost of living down. And if neither of those things have been achieved, in fact the complete opposite has happened, then I suspect the Republicans are in for an absolute shellacking in November. Now, there's still time to rectify this, but every week that goes by with this war is another week which is longer than we were told this was all going to last. And I'm looking at the prices of gas prices, the inevitable surge in food prices that's going to come because of the fertilizer issue and so on. It's all bad news for Trump. His approval rating is at a record low. He should just get out of this thing. I just want to come to you, Curtis, if I may, about something completely different because there was another big event last week where my king and queen came to your great country and you said this.
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Curtis Sliwa
Oh, total agreement of him because I was in India, this is about 15 years ago. And I met with historians there. They stole all the artifacts. Not just in India, all over the world. They refused to give it back. So they have the king and the queen, you know, the royalty there, a bunch of dead people, slackers. The worst welfare cheats in the world. So the countries ask, you know, could we have our artifacts back? And they say no. Meantime, India, they had 2 million volunteers join the king's army in World War II to defend the ground. 100,000 casualties, many more injured. I think the least that the royal family, the royal stiffs could do is not stiff be in the. But they do it and they don't think twice about it. And they should have met with the Epstein victims.
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Piers Morgan
So a stinging attack on my, my monarch and his wife there. This is about the Kuh and all diamond, which is an ongoing argument and dispute. It dates back several hundred years and I'm not going to get into that particular argument. But when you call King Charles a slacker. Curtis, I just wanted to point something out to you. King Charles is 77. I believe you're a very robust 72. So he's five years older than you. He was diagnosed with cancer in February 2024 and is still having regular treatment for this cancer. And yet in 2025 he conducted 390 solo engagements and 488 solo and joint engagements. Slacker, really? My king a slacker? He's the hardest working cancer patient in the world.
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Curtis Sliwa
Let me get the small violin out. I had stage four prostate cancer. I was shot five times with hollow point bullets on the orders of the Gotti's to the Gambinos. I'm out there every day. The difference is when your king and your queen came to lay the flowers at the memorial at 9 11, which was good not only for all The Americans lost 3,000 but the 69 Brits. Just a block away is the memorial to the Irish famine where your royalty was responsible for the killing of a million Irish. Up the rebels. Easter Rising. John Connolly, your queen Victoria did this. And your royalty never apologized for the death of 1 million Irish. You have a lot. Your royalty has a lot to apologize for.
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Piers Morgan
And do your leaders have a blameless record going back 250 years, Curtis? Or should I start slinging my arrows back your way for some of the transgressions of the past?
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Curtis Sliwa
No, you can't. You can. Because I don't believe in idolatry. I question authority. I am a Republican who constantly questions the authority of Donald Trump. You see here in America, we have total free speech, and the answer to hate speech is more free speech. But in England, you don't have complete free speech. And you know what I'm talking about, Pierce.
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Piers Morgan
Well, we have issues with free speech, particularly on social media, which I'm very concerned about. I agree with you. You know, we've had some ridiculous cases where people have cracked jokes, inappropriate, tasteless jokes on social media and then get arrested by five armed policemen at Heathrow Airport and charged with crimes. It's ridiculous.
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Curtis Sliwa
Can I. Can I reach my hands across the pond? You keep the King and the Queen there. We'll keep Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse here because that's your Disney World. The King and the Queen.
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Piers Morgan
Geraldo. I actually like. I was in New York last week, and I actually really like the fact that after a lot of Brit bashing from Trump, aimed at Keir Starmer, he's been a pretty useless prime minister. I have to be honest of my country, following a lot of other useless prime ministers in recent years, that after all the Britain bashing, some of it deserves some over the top. We finally had a reminder that actually there is a very historic and abiding and genuinely special relationship between our two great countries. What did you feel about it? Was it significant to you at all or. Not really.
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Geraldo Rivera
I thought that the royal family, well, the royal couple, anyway. The king and Queen did a magnificent job. The King's speech before the Joint Chamber of Commerce of Congress was brilliant. I thought that he. Here he was, you know, in a hostile environment where the relationship between the secular British government and the United States is horrible. Britain and the United States, historic allies, have had this awful divorce, mainly over what's going on in Iran and the Persian Gulf. But the king came. Despite the bitter feelings between the British government and the American government, the King came and made a speech that reminded Americans of what our democracy is all about, reminded Americans that we have elected representatives, that there's a separation between the legislative branch and the executive branch, that there is power in America's founding documents and our government structure, as long as each branch allows the other to do its constitutionally mandated job. It took the King of England, ironically, they took the King to teach Americans what our democracy was about, what separation of powers is about. And I was enormously impressed by his sincerity. I thought that his speech really resonated with many people who were apolitical. You know, I really believe that he was. In my view, this was the most impressive visit by a royal ever in my. Certainly in my adult lifetime. I thought Charles Was brilliant. And I was never a huge fan of his, of course, I was Princess Diana and all that. But to see Charles kind of a stiff generally, as he was regarded, come and make such a clever speech, so brilliantly delivered, connecting not only with the. He gets standing ovation from Republican and Democrat standing together. An ovation in Congress. You would never get that from an American president standing before the American Congress. But there was King Charles standing ovation. Not an empty, not a seat, no one sitting in the whole
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Deborah Lee
room.
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Geraldo Rivera
And he dominated and then graciously went to Harlem, was with the, the kids there, you know, remembered the 67 Brits who, you know, who died on 9 11. I thought that he and Queen Camilla really did a wonderful job. And I'm very glad they came and reminded us that politicians can be effective and that the monarchy was more than just symbolic.
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Piers Morgan
And only a voice that posh and charming and warm and eloquent could get away with standing next to the American president and crack jokes about burning down the White House and the fact you'd all be speaking French if it wasn't for us and get away with it. But that was great. And actually, you know what? To return the favor, I thought Donald Trump was on his very best behavior throughout that trip. He obviously loves the royals. I had a text exchange with him. He was ecstatic about how it all went. You know, you and I did the Apprentice. We've got to finish. But I just want to end with this, Geraldo. We both did the Apprentice. When you do the Apprentice, I sat opposite Donald Trump. This is back in 2007. 8. I sat opposite him in that boardroom for three hours every night and watched him in action. He was often so charming, so empathetic, so funny. All the things we see when he's at his best, like with the royal visit. And it just makes me scratch my head about why he's so reluctant to show that side of himself more and why he likes to be so over the top, aggressive and bombastic all the time and do things like, honestly, like when he talks about, you know, annihilating everyone in Iran or he trashes Rob Reiner the day after he's murdered or whatever it may be. It's like I just, there's another guy lurking inside Donald Trump, which I wish he would show people more of because I think then he would be less of a demon figure to everybody. And it's just a pity because when you see him like he was with the royals, it was great. Everybody wins, right? Everyone enjoyed that. That state dinner was fantastic. Anyway, that's for another time. Thank you all to my panel. I appreciate it very much.
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Anna Kasparin
Thank you.
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Piers Morgan
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