'IMMORAL!' James Fishback vs Sophie Rain On ‘Sin Tax’ | Priya Patel Debates Immigration

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Podcast Summary

Podcast: Piers Morgan Uncensored
Episode: "IMMORAL!" James Fishback vs Sophie Rain On ‘Sin Tax’ | Priya Patel Debates Immigration
Date: April 2, 2026
Host: Piers Morgan

Episode Overview

This episode features two main debates:

1. A fiery discussion between James Fishback, Republican Florida gubernatorial candidate, and Sophie Rain, a top OnlyFans creator, on Fishback's proposal for a 50% "sin tax" on adult content creators.
2. A contentious exchange between conservative influencer Priya Patel and radio host Brian Shapiro on the meaning and implications of assimilation and immigration in America.

The episode dives into modern culture wars: personal autonomy versus public morality, and nativist anxieties versus multiculturalism.

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1. Sin Tax Debate: James Fishback vs Sophie Rain

Main Topic: Should adult content creators on platforms like OnlyFans be subjected to a heavy "sin tax" to discourage what is seen by some as "immoral" behavior?

Key Points & Insights

Fishback's Case for the Sin Tax

• Fishback claims a "50% sin tax" will deter "immoral" behavior and redirect funds to causes like teacher salaries.
• He argues that platforms like OnlyFans "exploit" women, comparing online adult work to "sex slavery" and citing a lack of "real agency" due to economic pressures ([00:21] / [08:59]).
• Fishback suggests women are "resigned" to adult content as the only viable way to cover expenses and compares voluntary adult content to historical injustices (e.g., slavery), implying that "morality" should override legality ([07:24], [21:56]).
• The tax would apply to "anyone producing or consuming legal adult content," not just women ([10:15]).
• He equates adult content with social ills, framing his stance as one of "love" and "empowerment" for Floridians ([01:57], [09:38], [13:11]).

Sophie Rain’s Response

• Rain defends her autonomy, pointing out the voluntary, profitable, and legal nature of her work ([12:33]).
• She highlights Florida's lack of income tax and the selectivity of Fishback's proposal ([12:46], [13:54], [20:47]).
• Sophie emphasizes that adult content has enabled her to achieve independence and build businesses outside of OnlyFans ([16:05], [16:51]).
• She challenges the notion of exploitation, explaining her family's support and her personal happiness ([16:33], [16:51]).
• Rain articulates the variety of OnlyFans content and questions how a "sin tax" would be fairly implemented ([21:25]).

Piers Morgan's Moderation & Critique

• Morgan repeatedly questions Fishback's logic, analogies, and data, pressing him on the issues of agency and legality ([07:31], [19:09], [21:11]).
• He notes that Fishback’s stance might be rooted in paternalism and moral arrogance, and that this attitude might explain Fishback's low polling numbers ([25:32], [27:34]).
• The host also draws parallels to the empowerment of women in the Kardashian/Jenner universe ([17:07]).

Notable Quotes

• Fishback: "This is a classic case of Stockholm syndrome. The victim, the enslaved person, doesn't feel that they have real agency." ([00:21], [08:59])
• Morgan: "Who are you to be the great moral arbiter of what young women do with themselves legally in the United States?" ([00:44], [25:32])
• Rain: "I am very happy with where I am ... This has given me so much autonomy over my life." ([16:51])
• Fishback: "I want young girls in my state to aspire to be astronauts, doctors, nurses, small business owners. I believe a radical thing that women can do anything they put their minds to." ([07:52], [09:27])
• Rain: "As adults, we are all able to legally make our own decisions." ([13:54])
• Morgan: "Honestly, that last statement you made was so pompous and patronizing ... There's a real arrogance to this that you've decided you are the moral arbiter of every Floridian." ([25:32])

Memorable Moments

• Fishback analogizes adult content work to slavery, using it to justify changing the law ([08:04], [21:56]).
• When Morgan asks Sophie if she would want her daughter to follow in her footsteps, she answers she’d support her either way ([23:40]).
• Rain confirms earning over $100 million on OnlyFans, prompting Fishback to jokingly offer her a spot as his running mate ([22:27]).

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:44] – Fishback introduced, context on his candidacy and controversial policies.
• [06:36] – Fishback explains the sin tax proposal.
• [11:44] – Sophie Rain joins and describes her content and success.
• [13:02] – Rain responds to Fishback’s proposal, highlighting issues with selectivity and perceived punishment.
• [16:33] – Rain discusses her upbringing, family support, and happiness.
• [17:31] – Debate expands to broader social attitudes, Kardashian comparison.
• [21:25] – Nuances over implementation and who qualifies as "sinful."
• [25:32] – Piers Morgan’s pointed critique of Fishback’s paternalism.

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2. Immigration & Assimilation: Priya Patel vs Brian Shapiro

Main Topic: What does it mean to assimilate as an immigrant, and are some cultures "inferior" to others?

Key Points & Insights

Priya Patel’s Position

• Viral for the statement: "Immigration without assimilation is invasion." ([00:00], [31:18])
• Insists assimilation is a personal and societal duty for immigrants, regardless of history or personal background ([35:31]).
• Asserts that not all cultures are equal, and is critical of importing what she terms "third world" values ([40:01], [42:16]).
• Clarifies her heritage: Indian (via Uganda-UK) and American, stresses personal responsibility to assimilate ([34:07]).

Brian Shapiro’s Response

• Argues that American greatness is rooted in cultural diversity, not forced assimilation ([36:14]).
• Condemns blanket statements about "inferior" cultures as bigoted and hypocritical ([37:13], [43:15]).
• Points out the problematic reaction and traction among far-right circles to Patel’s statements ([32:07], [43:42]).

Debate & Clarification

• Patel distinguishes between legality and morality, says while all are equal under law and God, not all cultures are equal in value ([45:46]).
• Morgan presses Patel to specify which cultures she finds inferior and questions her logic about the historic American "melting pot" ([40:01], [41:14]).
• Patel mentions Afghanistan, Middle Eastern "Muslim culture", and parts of Africa and India as examples of "less advanced" societies ([42:16], [40:14]).
• She distances herself from racism by noting criticism of Indian immigration as well ([45:20]).

Notable Quotes

• Patel: "Immigration without assimilation is invasion." ([00:00], [31:18])
• Patel: "There is a personal duty on the part of immigrants to assimilate to the culture of the country they are blessed enough to come to." ([35:31])
• Shapiro: "The idea that people should be forced ... to do exactly what American US Citizens tell them to do is absolutely absurd and ridiculous." ([36:14])
• Patel: "Not all cultures are equal ... We can talk about the Muslim culture that comes from the Middle Eastern countries. I would argue that those aren't particularly equal." ([42:16])
• Morgan: "As a fellow Christian, I thought the teachings were quite clear that all men are created equally. Where does this sit with that?" ([45:33])
• Patel: "All people are created equal under the eyes of God and the law, of course. However, we do have a society that we're supposed to uphold here in America." ([45:46])

Memorable Moments

• Patel's viral phrase and subsequent clarification generate debate on what it means to "assimilate" in diverse societies.
• The conversation exposes deep generational and ideological divides on multiculturalism and immigration.
• Patel states, "In a lot of ways, yes," in response to whether Muslim culture is inferior ([42:46]), shocking both Morgan and Shapiro.

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [31:18] – Patel’s viral assimilation statement.
• [34:07] – Patel’s family background clarified.
• [35:31] – Explains assimilation as a duty.
• [36:14] – Shapiro argues for multiculturalism.
• [40:01] – Patel explains her view of "third world" countries and not all cultures being equal.
• [42:16] – Muslim culture cited as "not particularly equal."
• [45:46] – Discussion on equality under God and societal norms.

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3. Additional Noteworthy Moments

• The closing section features a heated negotiation between Fishback and Morgan about betting on the gubernatorial election, ultimately agreeing to a $10,000 charity wager ([29:04]-[30:24]).
• Morgan corrects previous show's errors about Trump and the WWE Hall of Fame ([47:12]-[48:19]).
• Throughout, Morgan reiterates his role in facilitating honest, "uncensored" debate regardless of controversy.

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Conclusion

This episode is a showcase for Piers Morgan’s "uncensored" style: provocative, combative, and willing to air both sides of fraught cultural debates. The sin tax proposal debate underscores the clash between personal autonomy, economic reality, and traditional morality, while the immigration/assimilation debate exposes the fault lines of American identity and who gets to define it.

Quote to Sum Up:

"Who are you to be the great moral arbiter of what young women do with themselves legally in the United States?" – Piers Morgan ([25:32])

For those who haven’t listened:
You’ll hear sharp, unfiltered exchanges on some of today’s thorniest issues, as well as the rhetorical and argumentative fireworks that Piers Morgan has built his brand upon.

Transcript

[Priya Patel]

This is your friendly reminder that immigration without assimilation is invasion.

[Brian Shapiro]

Look at all the white nationalists that were commenting on her social media pages. That's what's concerning to me.

[Priya Patel]

We can talk about the Muslim culture. I would argue that those aren't particularly equal.

[Piers Morgan]

You've proposed a 50% syntax on OnlyFans creators to discourage what you call immoral behavior.

[James Fishback]

I feel that this is a classic case of Stockholm syndrome. The victim, the enslaved person, doesn't feel that they have real agency.

[Piers Morgan]

Why don't we just bring in Sophie Wayne?

[James Fishback]

Sophie, look, with all due respect, I want what's best for you. You are capable of anything you put your mind to. And so when you're doing this little cute Spider man dance online and you're creating this adult content, know that that person that you used to be still wants something more.

[Piers Morgan]

Who are you to be the great moral arbiter of what young women do with themselves legally in the United States? Well, James Fishback is one of the most talked about political candidates in recent memory. But the Republican candidate for governor of Florida also appears to have very little chance of winning. Traditional polls show Fishback trailing bigly. As Donald Trump would put it at the time of recording, he has just a 10% chance on polymarket, which has a very accurate track record on recent election outcomes. His main opponent in the primary, Byron Donalds, has the full backing of President Trump and the full Republican machine with record spending to match. But Fischbach has stayed in the race with a novel strategy of rage baiting, such as referring to his opponent as aipac Shakur and by proposing some very radical policies. One of these policies is a syntax which aims to raise millions of dollars straight from the pockets of OnlyFans models. But in a moment, I'll hear the case against the syntax of the most successful OnlyFans creator in the world. But joining me first is James Fishback, Republican candidate for governor of Florida. Welcome, Mr. Fishbank.

[James Fishback]

Piers. Thanks for having me.

[Piers Morgan]

So look, a lot of people think you've got no chance of winning. What's the point? What is the point of continuing?

[James Fishback]

Well, a lot of people said that Donald Trump had no chance of winning when he ran in a 19 way primary in 2015. What I'm telling you peers is that I am here to tell the truth. And when we were at the University of Florida two weeks ago and we had 500 people in the audience, black, white, rich, poor, Muslim, Christian, Jew, that spoke to a real energy on the ground. And so I'm not going to put blind faith in polls. That said that Hillary Clinton was the shoo in and that Kamala Harris was the shoo in. I'm going to speak truth out of an unobtrusive, unapologetic love for a state that my family has called home for four generations. Now, the truth is that I love my state, but my state is hurting right now. Young couples can't afford to buy a home, people are being laid off, and billionaires are firing them to bring in cheap foreign labor from South Asia, all at the same time, when essential services like health care are being denied to veterans all over this state. And so I am fighting for a state that every single Floridian can afford, and that's why I'm running for governor.

[Piers Morgan]

One of the big things you've been on recently, you've been on a very critical run against Israel, particularly for roping America into the war in Iran, as you see it, because you say they're too cowardly to fight for themselves, although they are fighting, obviously in Iran. It's interesting because in November 2024, a few weeks after October 7, you said this.

[James Fishback]

So Trump moved an embassy, got Muslim majority countries for the first time ever to recognize the rightful existence of the Jewish state of Israel. And that justifies the heinous attack we saw on October 7. Iran was only exporting 150,000 barrels of oil a day under Trump. Now they're exporting 1.6 million. They're making hundreds of billions of dollars a year more. That emboldens them to give their proxies weapons, money and the vigor to attack the Jewish state. And that is unacceptable in the international.

[Piers Morgan]

So a lot of people look at that clip and the extended version and other comments you made at the time and thought, well, here's a really staunch supporter of Israel and the Israeli government and the relationship with America. And now you appear to have done a massive u turn on this and become incredibly critical of them. Aid you accept that characterization and if so, explain the change in mind.

[James Fishback]

Well, Piers, I'm glad you played that clip and gave the full context. I'm grateful for that. What I said in that clip, I stand by today, which is that Iran should never be funding the crazy terroristic proxies of Hezbollah or the Houthis or Hamas. And I also have been critical of the Israeli government. What I'm especially critical of is the fact that they now want $200 billion for the Pentagon to fight a war that, that Marco Rubio himself said we are fighting because Israel was the proximate catalyst for getting us in this war. So two things can be true at the same time. Piers, you understand the nuance. The first thing that's true is that, no, Israel should not be attacked by Iran. And the number two is that the United States should not lose free speech rights or send billions of dollars of taxpayer money to the Israeli government every single year. And so I'm going to speak the truth in a way that I think people in my state appreciate.

[Piers Morgan]

It's not just to be clear. Do you believe that Israel has a right to exist?

[James Fishback]

I believe that countries don't have right to exist, but I believe that people have a right to exist. And Jewish Floridians, like Christian and Muslim Floridians, have a right to ex. My state. And I will defend that right. Piers. I condemn.

[Piers Morgan]

Hang on. Just to be clear. So you. You don't think Israel has a right to exist?

[James Fishback]

I don't think that Communist China has a right to exist, but I think the Han Chinese as an.

[Piers Morgan]

I'm not talking about China. I'm talking specifically about Israel, which I don't. As you know, the Israeli government. The Israeli government is emphatic that it has this right to exist and that that right is threatened by its neighbors, many of whom want to cause it harm through the terrorist proxies from Iran in particular. So the issue of whether it has a right to exist is a very hot one, as you know. So just to be clear, you just don't think they have a right to exist? Israel?

[James Fishback]

I don't think that any country.

[Piers Morgan]

I'm not talking about any country. I'm talking about specifically Israel.

[James Fishback]

Specifically Israel. And specifically and generally every country in the world does not have an inherent right to exist. Who has a right to exist are people. And that includes Jewish Floridians who are struggling just as Christian Floridians are under the weight of a cost of living crisis peers. And I'm gonna fight for them every single day as their next governor.

[Piers Morgan]

Okay, let's get to the syntax. You've proposed a 50% sin tax on OnlyFans creators to discourage what you call immoral behavior. So just explain that.

[James Fishback]

Well, there was a time not too long ago in the United States of America where young girls aspired to be cooks and lawyers and reporters and doctors. And nowadays they are resigned to the fact that if they have an unexpected expense or they need to cover their rent or groceries, the quickest way for them to do that is being exploited by the OnlyFans platform. And so I respect women. I respect them enough to think that they are capable of anything they put their minds to. And I never want a woman in my state to be exploited by the online sex slavery that is OnlyFans.

[Piers Morgan]

But that's why I thought it was a voluntary platform.

[James Fishback]

It's not. There's nothing voluntary about a platform that exploits women and forces them to sell nude photos on the Internet.

[Piers Morgan]

When you say, just to be clear about what OnlyFans is, correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding about OnlyFans is it's voluntary. No one's forcing you to do it. People go on. OnlyFans create an account and they charge money for whatever they want to put on their account. I'm not sure where the exploitation element as you're articulating it is.

[James Fishback]

Well, this is often the defense of sex trafficking, that a 15 year old

[Piers Morgan]

sex trafficking is illegal. Hang on. Sex trafficking is illegal and I believe

[James Fishback]

that OnlyFans should be illegal as well. Really?

[Sophie Ray (advertisement voice)]

Why?

[Piers Morgan]

What law are they breaking?

[James Fishback]

Well, there's nothing. Well, I would change the law. I would change the law. That's how we do things. I mean, slavery wasn't illegal. And then we said this is a moral.

[Piers Morgan]

Who's enslaving people on the law? I'm really curious. I don't. Slaving people again, maybe you've consumed a lot more OnlyFans content than me. And you see, I've never trafficked slavery and everything else, but I don't. I'm not aware that that is what OnlyFans is. It has a lot of adult content, but legal adult content, which is monitored according to the law. And that people who have accounts there do so voluntarily. They open accounts and they charge money. We have somebody I'm going to bring in in a moment, Sophie Rain, who has made $43 million from her account on OnlyFans. I don't think she's been enslaved or exploited. I think she's perfectly happy and enjoys what she does. I mean, I'll talk to her in a moment. But why? Why do you feel she's a slave?

[James Fishback]

So I feel that this is a classic case of Stockholm syndrome where the individual, the victim, the enslaved person doesn't feel that they have real agency. This goes back to Sociology 101 peers. That someone is induced to believing they have choice, they have agency, when in fact they can't make a decision for themselves. I want young girls in my state to aspire to be astronauts, doctors, nurses, small business owners. I believe a radical thing that women can do anything. They put their minds to peers. And I don't want them resigning.

[Piers Morgan]

So do you think, mod, just to be clear, do you think modeling is modeling to you immoral?

[James Fishback]

I think naked modeling, however you want to euphemize it, naked modeling is immoral.

[Piers Morgan]

I mean, Cindy Crawford was one of the greatest iconic supermodels of all time. She's done naked modeling. So was she a sinner? Is she immoral? Should she be paying 50% back of her income?

[James Fishback]

Well, in that particular act of modeling, yes. And modeling nude. But you and I both know that Cindy Crawford was not known for her nude modeling. She was predominantly known for modeling for running.

[Piers Morgan]

So should we retrospectively go back to every supermodel who's ever posed nude and get 50% back of their income from those pictures?

[James Fishback]

As much as I'd love to do that, that's not legally possible. What I'm going to do is I'm going to raise an only characteristic. Why do you have a problem with

[Piers Morgan]

women's naked bodies, James?

[James Fishback]

I don't have a. I don't. By the way, Piers, you keep talking about women. There are thousands of men on onlyfans and this is going to apply just as equally to them. And so you're the one selectively outraged about women. That's a very good point, Woman. It's a very good man or a woman producing or consuming this content. And by the way, Piers, what you haven't brought up is that as governor, I would also levy a consumption tax. I'm not going to spare the men in this equation as well. If you're a young man and you're watching pornography, but put down the phone, go to church, pray and find a real God fearing woman. Society is not going to be dictated by men and women commodifying and using one another in these ephemeral social relationships. No, it's not transactional sex. It is a romantic experience that is reserved for a man and a woman in the sanctity of marriage.

[Piers Morgan]

Okay, well, why don't we just bring in Sophie Ray? Just hang on there, Jason, because it'd be quite interesting to have you guys talk to each other. So, Sophie, welcome to uncensored.

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[Sophie Ray]

Hello. Thank you for having me.

[Piers Morgan]

You have 4.5 million. Well, there are 4.5 million OnlyFans creators. You are, I think, the highest earner. It's claimed that you've made $43 million. You've got eight and a half million Instagram followers, 14 million on TikTok. So you're a massive social media phenomenon. For those who are not familiar with your work, how would you describe it?

[Sophie Ray]

Well, I post on many platforms, I post content on Instagram, I post content on TikTok and all the above and I also post content on OnlyFans. And honestly, I do a little bit of everything. I do a little dancing TikTok videos, I'll post Instagram photos and then obviously my only fans content.

[Piers Morgan]

And would you describe it as pornographic or what would you describe it as?

[Sophie Ray]

I mean, I wouldn't describe it as pornographic, but it's definitely adult content for sure.

[Piers Morgan]

So what do you feel about James Fishback and his plan to tax you 50% as a sin tax for being a sinner?

[Sophie Ray]

I mean, I'm gonna be honest, it's ridiculous. It's very ridiculous. Florida already has no income state tax. It doesn't exist. So it just, it seems very selective and it seems like it's a punishment

[Piers Morgan]

there. James, are you there? James? Yeah. You are. I mean, Sophie says that you, you know, that she feels like this is a punishment. Why are you punishing her?

[James Fishback]

Well, hey, Sophie, good to meet you. It's not a punishment at all. What it is, is a deterrent. I think Sophie recognizes that our state was better off when young women aspired to be teachers, small business owners, doctors and lawyers as opposed to creating adult content. I can respect Sophie Rain as an individual and still respectfully call out that. I don't want of young women who are in high school today to feel like the only way they can make a living when they graduate is selling adult content video photos of themselves on the Internet. And so, Sophie, look, with all due respect, I know you're from Florida, I'm from Florida, we both love our state. I want what's best for you and I want what's best for every single woman in our state. And that's not to be objectified and exploited by the OnlyFans owners.

[Piers Morgan]

Sophie, what's your response to that?

[Sophie Ray]

I feel like as adults we are all able to legally make our own decisions and I think that we should also educate a lot more on all of these opportunities that you're speaking of because I Just don't think that we should be singling out anyone, any individual for what they choose to do.

[Piers Morgan]

James?

[James Fishback]

Well, I want to single out drug dealers, Sophie. I want to single out people who are committing crimes in our society. And so as governor, my responsibility is very simple. I want to make sure that there is a path. I'm not going to be one of those Republicans.

[Piers Morgan]

She's not committing any crime. And it seems to me that your initial assertions before we spoke to Sophie, that she was, you know, that people like her on OnlyFans are enslaved, they're being exploited. And then you do an analogy he just now to drugs and whatever, which are illegal, obviously nothing she's doing is illegal. It seems to be entirely of her own free will. She's very happy doing it. She's very popular doing it, you know, under the First Amendment.

[James Fishback]

Well, have you asked her that?

[Piers Morgan]

I hope she's happy. Under the First Amendment of the US Constitution, what business is it of yours to stick your oar in and want 50% of her cash?

[James Fishback]

No piers. Did you ask her if she was happy? Because she posted a video two weeks ago on International Women's Day where she was interviewing her former self, who looked to be disappointed, who aspired to be, quite literally, in Sophie Raines own words, an astronaut. Sophie, you are smart. I know you, I know your family. You are capable of anything you put your mind to. And so when you're doing this little cute spider man dance online and you're creating this adult content, know that that person that you used to be still wants something more out of you. And I, as the governor of the state, want every single woman in Florida to achieve their maximum potential.

[Sophie Ray]

Sophie I mean, I think just realistically speaking, I'm very happy with where I am. And I promise I would never, I would have never got to where I am without the platform. Like I've built businesses outside of this. I am constantly, you know, chasing new dreams and everything. Like I'm very happy with where I am.

[Piers Morgan]

Sophie, you come from a devout Christian family. I understand you grew up, by your own admission, pretty poor. The family didn't have much money, relied on food stamps. As a child, you were working as a waitress. You then went on OnlyFans. You said you got fired from your restaurant job and your boss discovered the account and so on. And now obviously you've become incredibly successful and rich doing this. What do your family make of your transition into this world?

[Sophie Ray]

They're actually very supportive of me. Definitely. At first they didn't really understand it and they were cautious of it, but I sat them down and I talked them through everything. I'm being safe. I'm doing everything legal. Like, I'm, I'm good. And they, they're very supportive of Aneera.

[Piers Morgan]

Are you, are you genuinely happy?

[Sophie Ray]

I am. I would have never. I, I own my own house. I like, who can, who at 21 can say that this has given me so much autonomy over my life and I'm just so grateful for the platform because I wouldn't have been here, especially in today's economy.

[Piers Morgan]

James Fishback. You know, I'm thinking like of say, the Kardashians, people like that, right? They're always stripping off and they're making millions, billions actually, as a family, from their bodies predominantly. They don't have any other discernible real talent. It's just stripping off and being, you know, in the, in the, in the media. And it's been very successful. Does your syntax apply to them?

[James Fishback]

The syntax applies to adult content on the Internet, whether it's OnlyFans or any other platform. Peers. Let me just ask Sophie a question. Sophie, if the number of women doing OnlyFans tripled in Florida tomorrow, would that be a good or a bad thing?

[Sophie Ray]

I think, I think honestly it would be a great thing. A lot of women are trying to find different ways to make more income in a, you know, heavily damaged economy. So I think that there should be those opportunities out there for these women to make an income.

[Piers Morgan]

Do you hear?

[James Fishback]

Sophie and I both agree, we both agree that the economy is badly damaged. I proudly voted for President Trump Pierce, in 2024. And I have to tell you that I am not proud of the work that he has done. We are not living in a golden age. Whatso people in my state are struggling under the weight of this affordability crisis. And Sophie Rain and I see eye to eye that this economy is hurting a lot of people. I think that where we disagree is that the economy hurts people. And Sophie Rain wants to say, let's get them to join OnlyFans. And what I say is let's get new job training, especially for women. Let's create new pathways, new opportunities at our public universities, career technical school. Let's create a statewide internship program for anyone under the age of 25 to get a great paying job that will teach new skills in the 21st century. So, Sophie, you and I see eye to eye where we, I think, disagree is the solution. When you say that tripling the number of only fans creators is a good thing, that speaks to the damage of the economy. What I want to do is create a real economy that allows people like those women to do something or you're missing.

[Piers Morgan]

Yeah, but James, I mean, you keep. You keep talking for Sophie. I've noticed. I think you should let us be for herself, not least because she's worth $43 million. But the point I would make is what about, you know, the argument that women are empowered to make their own decisions about their own bodies, their own choices, their own. So.

[James Fishback]

So, if so. If so, let me ask you a question, Piers. If a woman is empowered to make their own decision about their own body and a woman struggles to pay the rent, do we then encourage that woman to sell one of her kidneys to pay the rent and say it was her own decision?

[Piers Morgan]

No, she's not selling women. She's not selling a kidney.

[James Fishback]

Hold on, hold on. But where do you draw the line, Piers? She is imperiling her future as a mom, as a worker. You just heard Sophie say she imperiling

[Piers Morgan]

her future as a mother.

[James Fishback]

I don't get years.

[Piers Morgan]

How does she imperil her future as a mother?

[James Fishback]

Well, let me tell you how. You just heard Sophie tell you that she was fired from her job when her boss found out. Her only fans. She was fired from her job.

[Piers Morgan]

Yeah.

[James Fishback]

And now what is. With all due respect to Sophie, what are you going to tell your daughter in 10 or 15 years when all of these images are all over the Internet and your daughter is being bullied in middle school and told that you guys were Christians? With all due respect, what do you say then? It creates a real weight, a real tension between a mom and her children and of course, a worker and her employer. I don't want to encourage women to go on onlyfans and then get fired from their job and then have a real fight at home about what mommy did on the Internet last week?

[Piers Morgan]

Okay, Sophie, I mean, I'm only 21.

[Sophie Ray]

I haven't even thought about having kids yet. But also, I think that the main discussion here is syntax. And like, in the state of Florida, there is already no income tax.

[Piers Morgan]

So.

[Sophie Ray]

And that's also one of the main identities of Florida is that it is a no income state tax. And I think the main issue here is. Is you're attacking women already on the site making money. Exactly. There's multiple people on the site, and not everyone does adult content. Only Fans is a massive platform and you can do anything on there. Not everything is adult content.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, I think, to be fair. To be fair to him, Sophie, he's not. He's not saying everyone on OnlyFans should get the syntax. He's just saying the people that he considers to be sinful should get a tax. And you're one of them. He thinks you're a sinner. What do you say to that?

[Sophie Ray]

Well, syntax is, you know, he's proposing that. Is going to attack everyone on the OnlyFans site. So does that include all of, you know, the cooks on there that are just selling their.

[James Fishback]

No, it doesn't, Sophie. No, it doesn't. So how do you single out disingenuous?

[Piers Morgan]

How do you work out.

[James Fishback]

Single it out.

[Piers Morgan]

Very simply, James, are you going to be launching a sin purge? Are you. How are you going to do this?

[James Fishback]

Well, we're going to put you in charge of it, Pierce. And. And so the way you do it.

[Piers Morgan]

Broad mind, James. I think if people are obeying the law, they can do what they like with their own lives. What's it going to do with you?

[James Fishback]

You know what, so. So what do you. So what do you say then? Because prior to slavery being illegal, they were obeying their law. They owned 100 black people. Does that make it okay? Of course not. Let me get to the very specific point that I think.

[Piers Morgan]

Why do you think she's a slave? You have. Of all the arguments you've had, that's called an analogy. Some of the points you've made. But this idea that somehow Sophie is some sort of slave, I'm just not buying that.

[James Fishback]

Look, Sophie may not be a slave. She hasn't made 43 million. Don't lowball her. She's made over $100 million. When I talk to young women in the States.

[Piers Morgan]

Is that right, Sophie?

[Sophie Ray]

That is correct. Yes.

[Piers Morgan]

You've made over $100 million and a

[Sophie Ray]

span of two years?

[Priya Patel]

Yes.

[James Fishback]

Sophie, if you want to be my running bait and be the Lieutenant Governor of Florida, It'll cost you 10 million. You'd be happy to do it. I'd be honored to have you, Sophie.

[Sophie Ray]

No, I don't think so.

[James Fishback]

You just gotta quit on it.

[Piers Morgan]

I have interest. Sophie, I have to say I mean this with no disrespect, but I'm not aware I haven't viewed your work. What is it that makes you so popular?

[Sophie Ray]

I think that I'm just very transparent with my audience. I'm never over here encouraging people to try and join the site. I'm very clear on the pros and cons of it also, but I'm just very transparent.

[James Fishback]

So then, hold on. What are one of the Cons, then what are one of the cons? What is a con? Let's be transparent. What is a con of joining the show?

[Sophie Ray]

Like you said, I'm not going to sit here and lie and say that. Onlyfans is a great site. Some of the points you are making are correct. Like, you know, it's damaging to the future and I want people to understand and educate themselves. But you women still should be able to make that decision for themselves at the end of the day.

[James Fishback]

So I'm raising attacks to disincentivize and deter it. I'm not banning it.

[Piers Morgan]

Yeah, that's a fair point. That is what he's doing. Sophie, if you had a daughter, would you want her to do what you're doing?

[Sophie Ray]

I mean, I would let her decide. It's up to her decision.

[Piers Morgan]

But do you think as a mother you would. You would want that?

[Sophie Ray]

I think that I would be supportive of it no matter what, yes.

[James Fishback]

Sophie, would you be supportive of your son selling crack cocaine?

[Sophie Ray]

No. That is illegal.

[James Fishback]

So, so, but, so why? Why? What is this difference between legal and illegal? Why can't we just say it's moral or immoral?

[Sophie Ray]

Because then where do you draw the line? Where do you draw the line?

[James Fishback]

A lot of people. Let me ask you, in Afghanistan, you can marry an eight year old. It is quite literally legal in Afghanistan to marry an 8 year old. And so does that make it right?

[Sophie Ray]

Sophie, we don't live in Afghanistan.

[Piers Morgan]

Right? What are you talking about?

[James Fishback]

It's an analogy. It's an analogy.

[Piers Morgan]

It's a ridiculous analogy.

[Sophie Ray]

You're choosing a country with a situation.

[Piers Morgan]

It doesn't make sense in the United States of America. So if you write prior to slavery.

[James Fishback]

No, no, Pierce, prior to slavery being illegal, would you have opposed slavery because it was legal. It was legal, Piers. It's okay if it's legal, right,

[Piers Morgan]

Sophie?

[Sophie Ray]

Oh, you're asking me? I mean, I didn't live back then. I'm just here to talk about what? We are here to talk about what's going on.

[James Fishback]

It's an analogy. Of course you didn't live back then, Sophie. Of course you didn't. This is my issue. This is my issue. I'm here to have a good faith conversation with a former Florida resident. Sorry, a current. Former resident. A current Florida res. And my point to Sophie is this is if you want to keep doing this, then we're going to take 50% of what you earn and we're going to use it to raise public school teacher pay. Our public school teachers are not getting paid enough. We're going to use this as a resource to fund the empowerment of young women who have signed up to do something dignified, with all due respect, unlike you, and be a public school teacher, educating, inspiring and motivating.

[Piers Morgan]

You know what, James? You know what? Here's what I would say. I've got to end this debate. Here's what I would say. I've listened to both of you, and you've both made good points. But honestly, that last statement you made was so pompous and patronizing. Honestly, who are you to be the great moral arbiter of what young women do with themselves legally in the United States? Who are you to say if you become governor, you're going to take half her money in a state where they don't have even state income taxes? There's a real arrogance to this that you've decided you are the moral arbiter of every Floridian, and it may be why you're trailing so badly in the polls. And Sophie, the good news for you is don't worry about it, because he's not going to win. So you're not going to end up giving Mr. Fischbach any money for his plans, much as it would be great to put more money into teachers in public schools. Of course it would be. But it won't be coming from you, Sophie Rain, because he ain't going to win.

[James Fishback]

Well, if I'm not going to win, Sophie Rain can put a $5 million bet on Polymarket tonight that I'm not going to win. She'll make a lot of money.

[Piers Morgan]

What I will tell you, actually, you

[James Fishback]

know what is the same arrogance. The same arrogance.

[Piers Morgan]

Sophie doesn't need the money, but I might do that so that I can become so be right.

[James Fishback]

The same arrogance that said that Donald Trump could never win, that Zoran Mamdani could never win. Why don't you come to Florida and come to one of our rallies where we're drawing crowds larger than anyone else in this race?

[Piers Morgan]

Let me tell you, I was the. I was the lone voice in the UK who confidently predicted Donald Trump would win in 2016. And you know why I knew he'd win? Because I'd been down interviewing serial killers in Florida, and I could feel the Trump train surging and the Hillary Crane train hitting the buffers. So my political instincts are very good. And I'm afraid the way the polls look at the moment. James Fishback, to quote my favorite phrase, you have two hopes, no hope and Bob Hope. But miracles can happen in politics, and I wish you all the best. Sophie Rain, thank you very much indeed for joining me. I wish you continued success. I think women should better do what they want with themselves. As long as it's. Thank you for having me within the confines of the law. And so should you, Jason.

[James Fishback]

We're gonna change the law. And we are gonna change the law, Pierce.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, we'll see about that if you win. You can try.

[James Fishback]

If I win, Sophie Rayne's gonna owe me $50 million, and I'm gonna raise teacher pay all over the state. That's what we're gonna do. And we're gonna proudly do it. Because in Florida, we don't let our women be exploited by Onlyfans degeneracy. We inspire them to be something more. And, Sophie, there's still more time. There's still time left for you to quit OnlyFans and do something dignified. I say that with love. I've never attacked you personally. I truly want what's best for you and your family.

[Piers Morgan]

Sophie. Let me answer that, because I think one of you will be quitting this year, their current job. And it won't be you and it won't be me. I've got to leave it there. Thank you. Well, James, I've given you a good. I've given you a good argument. You know what? Some of the points you made were perfectly valid.

[James Fishback]

Points.

[Piers Morgan]

Points I don't think I would want my daughter, for example, to be doing.

[James Fishback]

Why can't you just say that without disparaging our supporters? Why can't you just say that without disparaging our supporters?

[Piers Morgan]

You don't have many supporters.

[James Fishback]

I. I don't. Well, who are the 500 people at the University of Florida last week, the largest political event in a decade there since Hillary Clinton ran.

[Piers Morgan]

Let me.

[James Fishback]

Pierce, you're 3,000 miles away. Disparaging our supporters. Hardworking people.

[Piers Morgan]

I have a home in the United States. I'm there all the time. I've worked and lived there for 20 years. So don't. Don't be patronizing to me, too. You've already been patronizing enough to. Sophie, why don't we say this? I'll bet you $10,000 to a charity of your choice, you do not win. Do you accept the bet? Well.

[James Fishback]

Well, I want to know what the odds are because Polymarket. No odds.

[Piers Morgan]

Just me and you.

[James Fishback]

10 to 1.

[Piers Morgan]

Man owe to man.

[James Fishback]

At what odds?

[Piers Morgan]

I get 10,000.

[James Fishback]

You get 10,000 against Mr.

[Piers Morgan]

Perfect. Let's have a little 10 grand back. Take the bet to charity. On camera. I say you're going to lose. If you are this confident you're going to win, take the bet.

[James Fishback]

I'll take the bet if you give me $100,000. That's the 10 to 1 on Poly Market right now. If I win, you give me $100,000.

[Piers Morgan]

How about giving you odds if you're not confident you can win? I understand it.

[James Fishback]

The odds are on polymarket.

[Piers Morgan]

So you accept the Polymark is right. You're gonna get shellacked. You accept it,

[James Fishback]

Piers. I look forward to everyone, including Sophie, voting on election day.

[Piers Morgan]

James. James. I'll give you one last chance. If you genuinely think you're gonna win $10,000 to charity. Of both our choices, the winner chooses which charity do you accept My bet. I say you're gonna lose. You say you're gonna win.

[James Fishback]

It's on what charity? Peers. Because I don't want you giving money to abortion clinics. Peers. Or to.

[Piers Morgan]

It would be the intrepid fallen heroes fund.

[James Fishback]

I want the money to be specifically given to a pro life charity.

[Piers Morgan]

It would go to. You can give it to any charity you want. I'll give mine when I win to the intrepid fallen heroes fund, which is the charity I supported when I won Celebrity Apprentice in America. So just to be clear, are you accepting my bet?

[James Fishback]

I think it's a fair bet, Piers.

[Piers Morgan]

Great. Ten grand to charity. When you lose, I'll come and get you back on the show and we'll have you donating that to my charity. That would be great. Thank you both very much indeed for joining me.

[Sophie Ray]

Thank you.

[James Fishback]

Thanks, Pierce.

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[Piers Morgan]

The term viral is chronically overused, but there's no question it applies to Priya Patel, the conservative influencer whose video on immigration has been viewed 30 million times this week so far.

[Priya Patel]

This is your friendly reminder that immigration without assimilation is invasion. Got it.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, the problem with viral clips, of course, is you never know if the 6 second sensation can back up their hubris on the big stage. So we thought we'd put it to the test with an uncensored debate. Joining me now are Priya Patel, the Aforementioned conservative influencer and Brian Shapiro, host of Pushing the Limits. So, first of all, Branch period has got a huge kickback. This very short video, it's gone hugely viral. Obviously, the main sort of issue that people have had with this is that Priya Patel is basically lecturing people about immigration in the United States. But it's called Priya Patel and therefore presumably has a heritage which might be in conflict with the statement. What's your view of that? This.

[Brian Shapiro]

Well, first of all, Pierce, good to be back with you. Good to see you. Yeah, you're right. This video certainly went viral. My issue is, look at all the white nationalists that were commenting. And she knows this on her social media pages. That's what's concerning to me. The hatred and the white nationalists that are commenting there. That would be issue number one. Issue number two for me. Listen, I have no problem with people coming to this country, learning the language and, you know, taking some classes and learning the history of America and culture. I have no problem with that at all. But what I want in this country, and I think what most people want in this country is diversity as well. Now, we can go back to her family. I don't know a lot about her family, but in my opinion, a lot of her views and a lot of the stuff that she talks about would lead to her never being born in this country to begin with. And I think that's where she's getting some of the pushback. Listen, I don't support any racism. I don't support some of the hateful comments that she's received. But like I said, there's a lot of comments on her social media and a lot of white nationalists. That's very concerning to me, Pierce, and I have a serious problem with that. And that's not culture of America, and that's where my issue lies here.

[Piers Morgan]

Okay, well, Preet Patel, you're the woman of the moment. This week. This has gone massively viral. First of all, are you surprised by how much pickup this has had, this clip?

[Priya Patel]

To be honest, I am surprised with the amount of attention that it's gotten, but not surprised altogether, because I've had a viral video that hit on a very similar point. Prior to this, it didn't go nearly as viral. So, of course, that is shocking. But, yes, I understand that it is a very provocative statement coming from somebody named Priya Patel. However, of course, these people have no idea about my. My family history and my background.

[Piers Morgan]

Right. Which is perfectly fair enough. Let's just clear that up, because I think that's Obviously key to the whole debate because you were born in the United States, is that right?

[Priya Patel]

Yes.

[Piers Morgan]

Right, but where were your parents from? Are they from the United States or somewhere else?

[Priya Patel]

My mother is from the United States. My father immigrated here as a young boy and from England, actually, not from India.

[Piers Morgan]

Okay. He's English. Is English. Your father,

[Priya Patel]

he was born in Uganda, immigrated to England when he was about three years old after the dictator IDI Amin chased out all of the Indians out of Uganda and waited their turn to be able to come to the United States and did so when he was in his teenage years.

[Piers Morgan]

So you say all the Indians. So is your father part Indian or what's his background?

[Priya Patel]

My father is full Indian.

[Piers Morgan]

He's full Indian. Your father's Indian. Your mother is American or is she, what is she? What's her ethnicity?

[Priya Patel]

American? Yes.

[Piers Morgan]

And what's her ethnicity?

[Priya Patel]

Yeah, on my mother's side, I have ancestry date mixed European. She's a half German, quarter English, and then the rest is mixed European. But aside from that, I mean, I have ancestry on my mother's side of her family dating back to the 1700s in the United States. So.

[Piers Morgan]

Okay, so I'm only just trying to clarify because as you know, there's been a lot of speculation. Not much is known about your family, but a lot of people will say, so your father was an Indian who immigrate Indian immigrant from uganda into the U.K. you know, how does that sit with you saying what you said? You're friendly reminder that immigration with that assimilation is invasion. I mean, did your, did your father invade the uk?

[Priya Patel]

No, of course not. But you know, there is a, there is a personal duty on the part of immigrants to assimilate to the culture of the country that they are blessed enough to come to, especially when it comes to, of course, that sort of situation. But honestly, anybody that is blessed enough to come to the United States in

[Piers Morgan]

particular, I mean, Brian, look, that is an argument people say a lot of, a lot of countries, the United States, the UK Others have had big issues with controlling immigration. And a lot of people say if you come to a country from another place and you refuse to assimilate in any way and want to just stay out of the society and culture that you've come into, that people shouldn't tolerate that. What's your view of that argument?

[Brian Shapiro]

Completely disagree with that. And in my personal opinion, I think in a way it's a bigoted view. You can come to this country and you could learn about our culture. I have no problem with that. But that doesn't mean you have to abide by our cultures and what we do. The thing that makes America great is our diversity. And the fact that there are all sorts of different cultures and people with different backgrounds that live in the United States of America. That's the way it should be. The idea that people should be forced, after they come to this country to do exactly what American US Citizens tell them to do is absolutely absurd and ridiculous. In this country, we have freedoms. And when you become a naturalized citizen and if you come into this country the right way, you should be allowed to do whatever you want as far as your culture is concerned, your religion is concerned. And for somebody to say, you must do this or you must do that, that's against everything the United States of America stands for. And I wish she would at least admit that in this debate.

[Piers Morgan]

Okay, well, do you admit that, Priya?

[Priya Patel]

No, I don't admit that. You know, we have cultures and norms that we have a duty to uphold as a society. And I think that that, you know, should be enforced to some degree. And whether it's on a societal or a governmental level, I guess that's up for us to eventually decide. But it has to. Has to be implemented some way or another.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, everybody has to abide by the same. Look, to be clear, everyone has to abide by the laws of the country that they're living in. Right. So that's just a given in some way, United States or UK So we can all agree that. Because that's obviously a fact. But when it comes to cultural differences, in a country of 340 million people, there are obviously myriad cultures, ethnicities, religious creeds and so on. In the United States, it's a real hot. Famously, it's how United States was created. People came from all over the world. You know, I'm just curious what you mean by assimilation. What should these people all be doing in a uniform way?

[Priya Patel]

Well, I would disagree with the statement, Pierce, that America was built on the fact that people came from all over the world. No, it was a very, very select few group of people that came here to the United States and built it. Of course, since then, we've welcomed a good chunk of the entire world to come to our country. I would argue is. Yes, you said that it was built on the idea that people were coming from all over the world of America

[Piers Morgan]

is that people have come from everywhere. Right. That's been the glorious selling point of the United States, is it's open to all. You got to come in legally, and that's Been a contentious issue. But once you get there, as Brian says, why should she feel compelled to abide by a specific culture? What is the specific American culture, for example? How would you articulate it?

[Priya Patel]

Why? Why? Why exactly? If you didn't want to assimilate to American culture and live as an American, why exactly would you leave the country that you came from to begin with if you're only going to bring your culture's customs and norms and implement them together?

[Piers Morgan]

Maybe the same reason your father, you know, maybe the same reason your father left war torn Uganda.

[Brian Shapiro]

Do you not understand that?

[Sophie Ray]

Sure.

[Brian Shapiro]

But understand that there are people that are seeking asylum that want a better life for themselves and their families, that are afraid that they could even lose their lives. Do you understand how many people are seeking asylum and are in fear of their life? For you to make the statement that

[Priya Patel]

is a very small percentage of people coming to the United States. Very, very small percentage. And the large majority of people committing.

[Brian Shapiro]

I'm just saying you're making the large

[Priya Patel]

majority of people claiming asylum are actually economic migrants. They're not from war torn countries or suffering under political persecution.

[Piers Morgan]

One of the other comments, Supriya, you said, which did get a lot of attention, you said not all cultures are equal and we shouldn't be importing the third world. So what did you mean by the third world?

[Priya Patel]

I mean, I think that's pretty evident. There are a large majority of countries that are still considered third world. They are not privy to any of the.

[Piers Morgan]

Which ones would you say a third world?

[Priya Patel]

I mean you could take into account a lot of countries in, in Africa and the. In the Middle east, in Asia. Well, give me some countries to come from this lift.

[Piers Morgan]

Give me some.

[Priya Patel]

You could probably take in Uganda for. Uganda, for example, would actually probably Uganda's country for you. I would believe so, yes.

[Piers Morgan]

Where else do you think is a third world country?

[Priya Patel]

You know, there are parts of countries like Bangladesh and a great many others. But that's the point.

[Piers Morgan]

India as a third world country.

[Priya Patel]

I think there's been a lot of debate whether it is or not. There are certain parts of India that are of course very westernized and would probably be considered a first world country. However, I think there are a lot of parts of India that yes, should be considered a third world country still today.

[Piers Morgan]

And what do you mean by third world? What does that mean?

[Priya Patel]

I mean we've had a lot of technological advances and societal advances that a lot of parts of the world have not managed to either keep up with or come to that at this Point in time. But to think that people can come from these, for lack of better words, dated societies and just be placed in America and they just magically assimilate, especially when we bring them here en masse. I think that that is a massive, massive issue. Because of course, these people are not prepared for this. I think if we did it on a very small scale, that could be successful. Of course, we've seen that plenty of times throughout.

[Piers Morgan]

Just to be clear, when you say not all cultures are equal, which cultures in your view are inferior?

[Priya Patel]

I mean, quite a few, to be honest with you. I'm not going to call out people's specific cultures, however.

[Piers Morgan]

Which ones? Which culture?

[Brian Shapiro]

Why not call it out? Yeah, which ones?

[Priya Patel]

Sure, fine. Afghanistan would be a good example.

[Piers Morgan]

That's a country, not a culture.

[Priya Patel]

Well, of course, the culture that comes from Afghanistan, we can talk about the Muslim culture that comes from the Middle Eastern countries. I would argue that those aren't particularly equal. I mean, we see a lot of political.

[Piers Morgan]

The whole Muslim culture of over a billion. Well, actually nearly 2 billion people.

[Priya Patel]

I did not say. I didn't say the whole Muslim culture.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, you said Muslim.

[Brian Shapiro]

You just said it.

[Priya Patel]

Correct. I said. Yes, I said Muslims.

[Piers Morgan]

The Muslim culture you believe is an interior. Well, just to be kind of trying to work out what you believe. So you think the Muslim culture is an inferior culture?

[Priya Patel]

In a lot of ways, yes.

[Piers Morgan]

Wow.

[Brian Shapiro]

It's just so ridiculous.

[James Fishback]

Piers.

[Piers Morgan]

Okay.

[Brian Shapiro]

This is so ridiculous.

[Piers Morgan]

Brian. I think we're getting to why this comment went viral. Why both those comments went viral.

[Brian Shapiro]

First of all, it's extremely offensive. I would ask her, how many Muslim people does she know, number one. Number two, when you take an entire group of people, Quite a few.

[Priya Patel]

And they're actually very westernized.

[Brian Shapiro]

I didn't interrupt you. I did. I did not interrupt you. Please let me finish.

[James Fishback]

When you take an entire group of people.

[Brian Shapiro]

When you take an entire group of people and say they are lesser than us, that is pure bigotry. And I'm not surprised.

[Priya Patel]

Actually, I stated. I stated in that video my exact. You made an incorrect statement about my position.

[Brian Shapiro]

You just thought Afghanistan was a culture. So don't talk to me about. About statements that people make that are not correct.

[Piers Morgan]

Okay?

[Priya Patel]

So, Brian, here's Pierce.

[Brian Shapiro]

Pierce, here's the issue we have here, okay? And I'm going to instill politics into this. When you go on her social media page, she echoes a lot of similar things that MAGA Republicans echo. Taking an entire group of people, like the lower loomers of the world, saying they all should be deported. Or in this case, taking all Muslims and saying they're inferior to Americans. She has a MAGA hat on her social media page.

[Priya Patel]

Not what I said.

[Brian Shapiro]

And what she does. What she does is she caters to MAGA Republicans in her base. It's why she gets all the views she gets. And I think it's extremely offensive. I'll say it once again. To take an entire group of people, that would be. How would you feel if somebody said everybody that is Indian is inferior to Americans? You would say that's racist. That's a terrible thing to say.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, hang on, let me ask the question.

[Brian Shapiro]

I would never say that.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, let me ask the question. But would you say that about Indians, Priya?

[Priya Patel]

Of course. And I would not. Of course not. I would never say that about any race or group of people.

[Piers Morgan]

You literally just said it about Muslims.

[Brian Shapiro]

You just said it. You just said it about Muslims.

[Piers Morgan]

You couldn't have been clearer. I gave you the chance to clarify,

[Priya Patel]

and you clarified it, and that's perfectly fine. Look, I do think America has a superiority.

[Piers Morgan]

You're fine with you. And it's perfectly fine that we think it's a bigot. And very hypocritical. If you then say that other vast countries like India are exempt from your bigotry because, well, guess what, your father happens to be Indian.

[Priya Patel]

No, it's of course never what I said. Beers?

[Piers Morgan]

No, but people think you're a hypocrite.

[Priya Patel]

You guys are both taking things out, completely out of context.

[Piers Morgan]

They say your father's an Indian, but here you are condemning all Muslims as somehow culturally inferior.

[Priya Patel]

It's fine. I've been very critical. I've been very critical about Indian immigration to this country, too. I'm not picking and choosing.

[Piers Morgan]

When you say that some cultures are less equal. You're a Christian. I understand. Is that right?

[Priya Patel]

Correct? Yes, that's correct. And if you would let me clarify

[Piers Morgan]

exactly what I said as a fellow Christian. Well, hang on. As a fellow Christian, I thought the teachings were quite clear that all men are created equally. Where does this sit with that?

[Priya Patel]

Correct. Pearson, did you. I don't know if either of you watched the entirety of that video where I was talking about culture. I specifically did state that all people are created equal under the eyes of God and the law, of course. However, we do have a society that we're supposed to uphold here in America. And like you, Pierce, in England. Right. You don't want a lot of foreign invaders coming into your country and completely causing the collapse of your society and of your country, if people are blessed enough to come to America.

[Piers Morgan]

So would you, out of interest to stop this invasion, as you put it, would you deport all foreigners from the United States?

[Priya Patel]

No, I would not deport all foreigners from the United States. I would certainly deport all of the illegal foreigners that are here in the United States.

[Piers Morgan]

What about those that just didn't sign up to your worldview of what the culture should be?

[Priya Patel]

No, I don't necessarily think that they should all be deported from the United States, but I think we do need a very slow and if not a halt on immigration as a whole currently, so that we can as a society and allow our government to continue to help these people assimilate to our culture, actually fix our immigration system so that it works with our country so that we can keep it intact as it is and honestly maybe get back to what we were, I mean, originally founded on.

[Piers Morgan]

I think we'll leave it there. Brian and Priya, thank you both very much.

[Brian Shapiro]

Thank you.

[Priya Patel]

Thank you.

[Piers Morgan]

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