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We've got to talk about the Met G. Okay, here he comes. This is Sam Smith, who would like us to call him they them.
James Barr
Here they come.
Piers Morgan
Mainly because he's had so many identities over the last couple years.
Emily Austin
A lot of them I don't know. I like the sequence. I feel like Cardi b looks like a literal like anal prolapse and a piece of intestine. I feel like there's just better people to criticize than Sam Smith here.
Piers Morgan
Baldoni versus Blake Lively. It is hard from where I'm sitting to think of this as anything other than abject humiliation.
Adam Monshein
He is overwhelmed. I think the burden that this is on the family. I think he really wants to tell his story.
Piers Morgan
Please tell him to come on the show if he wants to have his say. The Met Gala is always a source of great intrigue and irritation, and this year's exhibition of haute couture did not disappoint. I can personally attest that I was both greatly intrigued and irritated by Santa Smith, for example, who dressed as a plus sized bearded wizard mermaid. A flexible gender. And it's fair to say that the people's eyebrow was raised by by action hero Dwayne the Rock Johnson and his big skirt. We always learn a lot from the Met Gala. Most importantly, we learn what our most irritating celebrities would wear if cost, taste and the ability to see were no obstacle. And this year we also learned that many prominent US Commentators are in fact socialists. Jeff Bezos and his wife Lauren were the principal sponsors and hosts of this year's event. That led to boycotts and protests from some prominent people who apparently thought all of the previous galas were understated, salt of the earth working class fare. This week also brought a bombshell conclusion to the real life showbiz soap opera of the year, if not decade, if not millennium. Baldoni vs Blake Lively more than enough to justify assembling an uncensored panel to talk about everything other than the Iran war. Joining me is the broadcaster and host of the Emily Austin Show, Emily Austin, the comedian and commentator James Barr, the former Republican congressman And current bitchy fashion critic George Santos and the Showbiz correspondent Shasti Floor. Well, welcome to all of you. Let's start with the. I think we'll start with the Baldoni Blake Lively fiasco. And Shasti, you've been leading the way on this, getting huge numbers to your views on this. You know, my view from the start of this was we had, in the case of Blake Lively, a monumental ego running completely out of control, used to getting her own way, who couldn't believe she wasn't going to get her own way, and decided to then have her day in court to represent all victims of abuse worldwide and all children, it turned out, who'd been abused, all sorts of justification for what she was doing. And then right at the last minute, when she had the chance to do this, she caved. And we're told she caved without paying a sick. Being paid a single dollar by Justin Baldoni for anything and with no apology. It is hard, from where I'm sitting, to think of this as anything other than abject humiliation for her that could have enormous brand damaging consequence. Am I wrong?
Shasti Floor
No, I think you're very right. I think everyone was really shocked on Monday when this because no one was preparing for this settlement to just like drop like that. So I think for sure people are in shock. And of course, at the first glance, when I saw the statement from both parties, I was like, okay, that's not great for Boldoni. But I just learned that the reason why they said that she deserved to be heard is because he also wanted the ability to come out and talk about what really happened and his side of this story and what this has been like for him. So, yeah, no, I mean, I'm as shocked as everyone else of how this turned out. And I think it was such an anti climax because I think people have been really looking forward to it.
Piers Morgan
Oh, I couldn't wait. I was so looking forward to this.
Shasti Floor
And I was looking forward to testifying as well.
Piers Morgan
You know, I was salivating at the prospect of all this dirty linen being aired, although I realized how catastrophically damaging it would be for everyone involved. James Barr, you normally defend the indefensible. I know you've been in Australia defending the indefensible in your show, which oddly apparently did very well, which I find very hard to believe. Anyway, welcome back to Uncensored with your tan. Can you defend the indefensible here with Blake Lively?
James Barr
My tan is not as indefensible as George Santos, who has no business having a tan, considering where he's recently been. I actually, I do feel sorry for Blake here. Look, I have a question for you, Piers, because the thing that annoys me about this is, look, she's an actress, she is Hollywood. And so, yeah, incredibly annoying. And that's fine. We can accept that someone is annoying. They don't necessarily deserve all this heat. But you and the Internet and everyone is always so ready to give male men a sort of due process and to say, well, innocent until proven guilty. But then when it comes to a woman like Blake Lively, you just attack, attack, attack.
Piers Morgan
Well, that's where you're wrong. You see, when she first wrote her op ed piece, I think it was for the New York Times. Whichever paper it was, I said it, I thought it was really powerful. And I was shocked by the revelation she was making. The problem is, the more we got into the weeds of actually, the reality of these revelations, the more it all fell apart. And in fact, recently, as we saw most of the charges against Baldoni that she'd made, they all got ruled out by the court, right. And she was left with nothing, really, other than a bit of a PR smear campaign against her in which it was his word against hers and seemed all very inconsequential. But no, I made the fatal error, which I normally urge people not to do. I believed her. And the truth is, you shouldn't believe anyone about anything. You should say, as we've now seen in my statement, you should listen to people when they make allegations, respect the allegations. But we went through a very weird period around the world where people were compelled to believe everyone that came forward with any allegations. And the problem with that, James, is that often it turned out they were bonkers.
James Barr
Not often. Well, actually, I'd love to see statistics on often.
Piers Morgan
Actually, quite a lot. Quite a lot of them fell by the wayside. So my point is, when people make allegations, you listen to them, you take them seriously, and you let the authorities investigate them. And if need be, you let a courtroom investigate them.
James Barr
You just said a minute ago you shouldn't believe anything.
Piers Morgan
No, I said you don't automatically believe it.
James Barr
Quite the same.
Piers Morgan
No, no. We went through a period where people were told you must automatically believe. And people were described automatically as victims. Actually, no, they're accusers who may well turn out to be victims. But due process actually means we know people, actually means you investigate. Do you agree with that or not?
James Barr
No, I don't actually.
Piers Morgan
Really.
James Barr
I think we have to give people. I think we have to let people use their voice. We have to listen to them understand,
Piers Morgan
you have to believe them.
James Barr
Empathy, whether we believe it or not, is not the same. Do you agree with me as accusing them of lying? Do you agree I didn't accuse anyone of lying. I don't think people. Well, there's.
Piers Morgan
You actually agree with me there.
James Barr
I'm not. I guess I'm agreeing with you, but I'm also saying that we also have to give people space to tell their story and then not accuse them of lying.
Piers Morgan
I said you're not.
James Barr
No, but we're not doing that. You're not doing that. You are accusing her of lying.
Piers Morgan
You're saying I literally just told you that when she did her op ed making all the allegations. I said it was a really powerful
James Barr
thing and I gave it space.
Piers Morgan
I made the error of believing her.
James Barr
But the thing is, let me just mention one more thing. We know that so often these cases, like in so many of these cases where victims are accusing people, so many of them don't get. They don't get justice.
Piers Morgan
Well, that's a different story.
James Barr
And time again, the legal system isn't for this.
Piers Morgan
I don't disagree with that, but that's a different issue.
James Barr
So what do we do about this then? What do we do when people are saying one thing happened and we don't? How do we deal with that?
Piers Morgan
I think you have to listen. Well, Emily. Let me go to Emily for a response to that.
James Barr
Yeah.
Emily Austin
No, I just feel like. I mean, first of all, during the entire MeToo movement in America, like Piers just said, he said exactly what I was going to say. We automatically believed women. And as a woman, while on one hand, that makes me feel really good, on the other hand, we saw in cases like Amber Heard where so many women were using, like, sexual allegations or violence allegations as a way to get vengeance on a guy for whatever the reason was. And like, as a female who goes in these Hollywood circles and entertainment circles and especially in sports circles, we see this. Like, I have heard with my own ears women that are like, oh, I'm going to have sex with him tonight, and if he doesn't give me what I want, I'm going to say, he raped me. And I looked at this girl, and I'm like, I'm his friend. I'm gonna tell him you said that. And he kicked her out of the party. My point is, Pierce's point is that you don't blindly believe people. We are. Both sides are entitled to having their voices heard. And that's exactly what we saw unfold. Clearly. Blake didn't have a case strong enough to uphold in the court of law. So to me, everything that's coming for her now is well deserved because you came to fight and then you cowered when it was time to show up for all your people that you're allegedly defending. But then you cower away. So it's like I'm really not understanding what she was doing.
Piers Morgan
It sounded like it was intentional, but I found that again, you get the feeling that everything with Blake Lively is so kind of, you know, orchestrated and designed for pr. She turns up the Met gala a few hours after this settlement in her big dress. She looked great, right? She was a good looking woman. She looked great in her big long train. And she was prancing around for all she was worth. But you're thinking again, you were supposed to be going to court to represent the victims of abuse and harassment in the workplace all over the world. That's what you told the world. And then you cave at the last minute. You get no apology, no money. It's cost $60 million apparently in legal fees, which is unbelievable. All on this massive ego trip. And then you just go out like nothing's happened and go back to being the movie star. The problem, George Santos, welcome back to you on Uncensored. The problem for I think is I tried to watch it ends with us again the other day. I thought I better watch it again before we do the trial, right? And I found it almost unwatchable. I just can't watch Blake Lively anymore on screen. And I think a lot of people feel that because we all feel that we got conned, right? And we all believe the op ed, we all believe she'd been harassed and abuse and all this kind of thing. And then we actually, it turns out that actually most of it wasn't true.
George Santos
Well, let's put it this way. First of all, great being back with you and I'm sorry that my beach bumped hand bothers people. I mean, it's only because you got
Piers Morgan
a better one than him, mate. People expect he's been in Australia for God knows how long. He looks almost borderline albino. So that's what that's about.
James Barr
I'm excited to hear your opinion on this though, George, as someone that is famed for lying quite often.
George Santos
Well, I'll put it this way. I'll put it this way. Look, I believed her op ed when it first came out. Much like Pierce, I thought it was very strong and powerful and I thought she had a great case. And as we started learning more about the Case I was pro Blake Lively despite having a history of not liking her because of her gossip days there era. She was very insufferable, has always been an insufferable person. But the moment I believe she was a victim, I was like, screw this, we're going to go full bore Blake Lively. I was team Lively until the text messages with Taylor and Ryan Reynolds stuff started coming out and I'm like, wait, this is. And then the fact that she coward and went into a settlement just tells everybody what we want to know. This was always about the IP of the movie. And because she saw that the movie had become a cult. I loved the movie the first time.
Piers Morgan
Yeah, I did too. Yeah.
George Santos
I don't have the desire to watch it again.
Piers Morgan
I thought it was great. I saw it at the cinema the first time. I thought it was a great movie. I really thought it was great. It was a great movie and it did brilliantly at the box office. A smash hit. That's the farce of this whole thing. It was a smash.
George Santos
It had a great nostalgia to it too. It was a smash hit movie and she saw monies and dollar signs instead of a collaboration.
Piers Morgan
And actually, you know, the really weird irony is that Baldoni, from all the texts and emails, he comes across as the most groveling wokey you could imagine. This is a bloke literally going out of his way to try and be the wokest coworker in the history of the United States. And the response to that was he ends up in a $60 million lawsuit. It's preposterous, the whole thing. Look, I think she.
George Santos
The funny thing for me was watching her pull up to the Met like nothing happened the day before. As you just pointed by the way, she looked great. She was actually really well dressed. But it's so stunning to me that she had the gall to show up after she let everybody down.
Piers Morgan
It's so many breathtaking brass neck of it all. It's like, you know what? I know I was going to represent all the abused and harassed women of the world and the children, but actually see me on the red carpet. James, you're signed. Why?
James Barr
Because I think regardless of that, you know, she's still. I don't understand why you're getting hung up on this red carpet thing. She's allowed to hit the red carpet. That is her job. I'm allowed to get literally her job and she is allowed to do her job.
George Santos
And if someone doesn't break up and
James Barr
that doesn't prevent her from representing the
George Santos
red carpet is not her job. That's a function she makes as a celebrity.
James Barr
That doesn't prevent her from making like, from also supporting.
Piers Morgan
You didn't find it jarring, James?
James Barr
I don't find it jarring that she's doing her job and that she's back out there. I don't find it jarring, no, but
Emily Austin
it's not her job.
James Barr
It is her job. She is a celebrity. That is her job. Why are we picking on a woman?
Piers Morgan
Hold your fire.
James Barr
Panel.
Piers Morgan
We have somebody who actually worked alongside Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni in It Ends with us, the actor Adam Monshein, who joins me now. Adam, welcome to Uncensored. I was just informed you've been chuckling listening to this so far. You're in the best position to talk about this because you were there, right? You were on the set with these two. What has happened here? What's your kind of overview of it all?
Adam Monshein
What a great question, Pierce. What has happened here? It is the inexplicable. In a previous segment you were talking about, how do you explain the inexplicable? What started off as celebrating my friend Justin, who I've been friends with for 20 years. One of the things that I always teach young actors, because I coach and I teach theater and cinema, is the first thing you have to do is be able to celebrate the success of another person. If you feel like you're going to want to make it out in Hollywood, that's the first key. And that's been the community that we come from out here in the friend circle that is Justin Baldoni and getting to know him before he's famous, before anyone knows him. We spend birthdays packing peanut butter sandwiches, bottles of water, no pictures, no Instagramming, and bringing them to skid row and handing them out to people for his birthday. That's how he wanted to celebrate it. No fanfare. Over time. Eventually he's on Jane the Virgin. He gets a little bit of fame and what does he do? He turns it into the Skid Row Love Carnival. He partners with the city of la. He still doesn't put his name on it. He's still not the face of it. And this is a guy who literally walks the walk. He talks the talk, he walks the walk. I laughed when you said he comes across as the wokest leftist because it is actually his real intention. And that's what gets him in trouble, is that he's so pure in an industry that is so skeptical and so selfish and so nepotistic and so narcissistic and he truly means what he says. He has the biggest heart of any person I've ever met. So when he is directing this big movie, the sad irony is I was a huge fan of Blake Lively's work as an actress. I was part of the casting process when he's going through all of the different choices who could play this role that she was eventually casting and I pushed hard for her. He was in the circle of friends. I was like, Blake, what do you
Piers Morgan
think of her now?
Adam Monshein
She's perfect. Oh, Piers. I feel, I feel sorry for her ultimately. Do you? I can't imagine what it must be like to be inside of her mind. Yes.
Piers Morgan
I don't have a shred of sympathy. I think this was entirely, I think it was entirely self inflicted. I mean, it's interesting because you got dragged in.
Adam Monshein
I have very firm feelings about the actions that she took and she hurt my friend and has been hurting my friend. Both Jamie Heath and Justin Baldoni, they have such huge hearts. They're really, truly great people. They're not Hollywood people. They're people that want to make movies, that have a heart, that help, that are of service and that's why they got into it, truly. Jamie is a Grammy Award winning musician who has lent his talents and voice to very uplifting music before he was thrust into the position of president of Wayfarer Studios. That's not something.
Piers Morgan
Have you spoken to Justin?
Adam Monshein
It's a friendship.
Piers Morgan
Have you spoken to Justin since the statement yesterday that it was chronic migraine?
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Adam Monshein
I have. Yeah. He is overwhelmed. I think the. The burden that this is on the family, the taxing, like how they were dragged into the public. And if you picture for a second people are starting to get to know him more and his family and his kids and his wife. It is unbearable when someone misjudges you, when someone takes you out of context, when someone takes what you have built.
George Santos
Like.
Adam Monshein
Justin has a reputation. And his reputation has only ever been, like I was saying, of service, big heart, trying to do the best that he can. And the only thing I ever thought he was guilty of was sometimes being a little cheesy. But that's it. He's real.
Piers Morgan
Does he feel love? Does he feel, notwithstanding all the tremendous pressure of this, I'm sure financially as well. But does he feel a relief that it's been settled? Or is he a little frustrated it hasn't gone to court where he could. Everyone could see for themselves the reality.
Adam Monshein
It's both. It's really both. I don't want to speak for him. I think him. I think he really wants to tell his story and he deserves to be heard the truth. The sunshine that that is, to let that sunlight in on. This has been the thing that I feel like her camp has been avoiding.
Piers Morgan
Please tell him to come on the show if he wants to have his say.
Adam Monshein
Honestly. Honestly, I think he certainly will because I was very excited to testify. I'm a little bummed because I want. You're out of order. This whole court's out of order.
Piers Morgan
Well, you got dragged into it. You got dragged into it. It's almost comical this, in a way, but you got dragged into it as well in some of the claims that she was making because you were there in various scenes. And one, of course, is the birthing scene where she alleged she was, quotes, nearly nude in stirrups for several hours with only a small piece of fabric covering her genitalia. You've responded to this previously by saying she was wearing a full hospital gown, black shorts and a torso covering prosthetic to simulate pregnancy. I mean, that alone is kind of laughable that that should end up in court documents.
Adam Monshein
Isn't it insulting? I was. I mean, it's shocking when you're not used to any of this to be talked about in a way that was startling, this version of events, which is counter to my version of events. And I imagine everybody.
Piers Morgan
Well, it got worse when it came to inappropriate physical proximity. She said it was invasive and humiliating. Outrageous, invasive humility to have your face and hands in such close proximity to her while she was in this state. I mean, what is she talking about? You're honest, doing a birthing scene.
Adam Monshein
Time magazine, you're the doctor.
Piers Morgan
Where are your faces supposed to be?
Adam Monshein
And the irony is, is that I was so far away that she would have had to shoot the baby at velocity for me to catch. That's how far away I was in reality from. Cause it's for a movie. It's not real. None of it is real. And she's again, Time magazine's hundred most influential person. She had all of the power of a star in the room. Nothing. She inserted herself as a producer.
Piers Morgan
You know, I feel. I was saying earlier, Adam, I feel like conned in a way, because when she wrote the first op Ed, you know, it was pretty shocking to read. And, you know, I think a lot of people just took her at her word. I did. I thought, wow, this is a powerful piece, right? This guy Baldoni sounds a complete douchebag and he should get his comeuppance. But it was interesting. As more and more information came out, the pendulum of public opinion really went against Blake Lively and against Ryan Reynolds, actually, who does. Actually, he comes across as a massive dick as well in all this. But, you know, I don't know Justin Baldoni like you do. You paint a very glowing picture of him. Do you think there's any regret on his part for anything that went on, on set? Would he do things differently going forward?
Adam Monshein
I mean, again, I can't. I can't really speak for him, but knowing him, I know it was his first big movie. And I think the thing he thinks is the mistake that he would change is how his insecurity for wanting to be doing it well kind of bled over into wanting her validation. And that put him in a position where, as we discovered, her reputation, even through her own words, is very much kind of steal ownership of the projects that she's working on and do more than just be an actor. But he. He was kind of in a really hard position. Again, when your heart is really big, it is. There's a lot more real estate to injure. And I think he really put it out there. And that's. Honestly, I think he learned a lot about how to both be an artist, but also protect yourself along the way. So that you.
Piers Morgan
Do you think he got his.
Adam Monshein
Did his big heart need the validation?
Piers Morgan
Did his big heart get Broken, do you think, by this whole process?
Adam Monshein
I think so. It's been weighing on him. The hardest thing for me is watching my friend wear the pain. The pain of the. It's not like we use words like brand that you're building. But who he was in his reputation was of service of trying to speak up for men's responsibility. His man Enough podcast, the books that he wrote as his experiences as a father for young men to respect women, to own their emotions, to get more comfortable sharing them. That's hard territory to tread into as a man who grew up looking the way that he looks, which is very attractive. Well built, in shape, you're kind of judged for that becomes your worth.
Piers Morgan
I know I've had the same problem.
Adam Monshein
And then as a. I was gonna say it's hard for me to be on camera with you right now.
Piers Morgan
I've gotta wrap it up. But let me just ask you, Adam, I think I know the answer to this, but on a scale of one to a thousand, where would you put the chances of a sequel to this smash hit movie featuring Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni?
Adam Monshein
Wow. I would say that on a scale from 1 to 1000, the chances are violet. I would choose a color. Describe it. I don't think we're in the world.
Piers Morgan
I'll tell you what, though.
Adam Monshein
Even the idea of a sequel sends him into a very.
George Santos
Watch.
Piers Morgan
We'd all watch it. I can tell you that I would book myself straight in for that one. Adam, thank you very much indeed for joining me.
Adam Monshein
Really appreciate the time.
Piers Morgan
Pierce, put a good word in with Justin. If he wants to tell his story, we will do it uncensored here for the world to see. We won't edit a word, and he can have his say.
Adam Monshein
Fantastic. Thank you.
Piers Morgan
Let's go back to the panel just for a quick reaction to that, James. I mean, has any of that persuaded you?
James Barr
I agree with Adam. I feel sorry for Blake and not because I don't think that what's.
Piers Morgan
That's your takeaway, really. I think you have to have.
James Barr
I think you have to have empathy.
Piers Morgan
Look, every time I think you can't stoop any lower in the Defending the indefensible, you do that.
James Barr
I feel sorry for both of them. I do. I feel sorry for Justin as well.
Piers Morgan
Wow.
James Barr
And I think an important.
Piers Morgan
I agree with Adam that I feel sorry for Blake.
James Barr
I think an important thing to note, and I think we need to have a better conversation about what abuse is, how it looks, how it feels. We need to have that conversation. I don't think we have scratched the surface.
Piers Morgan
Well, we're going to have one, because I'm going to sue you for 50 million for the appalling harassment you've given me over the years.
James Barr
It's very important to note that anyone can be abusive. I'll leave that there.
Piers Morgan
Emily, what was your response to that interview? Quite fascinating, really, isn't it, from a guy who's big friends of Baldroni on the set? I mean, some of the stuff he was accused of, Utterly ridiculous.
Emily Austin
Yeah. I mean, honestly, I tried not to let any of it impact me in any way because I think it, you know, objectively. Not in this instance, but objectively speaking, it's like, of course, if you're speaking to a person's friend, you expect them to stand up for them and say positive things. And similar to almost everyone on the panel, like when Blake Lively came out, it's not that she just made an accusation like Pierce, similar to what you said. She was so compelling. And as a woman, of course, I more so empathize with her. And I'm the first one to acknowledge to be diligent and do your research before accusations. But of course, we can admit it's so much easier for a woman to be sexually assaulted or abused than a man. Like, that's just the reality here. And, you know, being a fan of Justin's work, I loved him and Jane the Virgin. I was so disappointed because I almost felt like, you know, you feel like, you know, an actor to a certain extent, even though we don't know anything. So just bottom line, like, you know, Justin, I follow his Instagram and I follow his personal life. And like you said, he's so woke and Zen and practices Baha'. I, and, like, you wouldn't expect this behavior. And I'm really disappointed, and I don't feel sorry for Blake where it's like, if you were so confident in yourself, just come to the microphone, like, speak your truth publicly. Don't hide from it. So I'm really not understanding this. Clearly exaggerated Blake Lively empathy.
Piers Morgan
Yeah. Shasti, you actually interviewed Blake Lively in quite an infamous interview where she treated you pretty awfully, actually, which was another sign to her character. I mean, just very briefly, just what was that like?
Shasti Floor
Well, it was pretty awful, I have to say. And I have to say something that you guys mentioned as well on believing her when that New York Times article came out, because in that article, I was accused of being part of the smear campaign. Basically, I was mentioned, and it said, oh, because she interviewed Johnny Depp. And she had a hashtag on that and the same company that Justin Baldoni hired for this smear campaign. So I was really doubtful of everything that I read in that article because I was like, what they're saying about me isn't true in here. And they never reached out to me to ask me if it was actually factual. So in that sense as well, I got to feel a little bit, just like a tiny little bit of what I can imagine Justin Baldoni, Jamie Heath and their families have gone through when they were falsely accused. Because I was also falsely accused. And also, of course, I had that horrific experience with her, something I didn't share until many years later. So, yes, my experiences with Blake Lively, I actually interviewed her twice. The second time was a little bit better. And also my partner has interviewed her and had a horrible experience with her. So, I mean, I came from a little bit of a different viewpoint, I
Piers Morgan
think, because, yeah, I'm afraid the reality is she's obviously just a gigantic piece of work and there's no getting away from it. We've seen it.
Emily Austin
But Piers, do you know what I can understand, like, she's had plenty of co stars, right? Why Justin and why now? Like, how come she didn't do this?
Piers Morgan
He made the fatal mistake of being Mr. Wokey is like the. This is why. This is why. This is why. For years I have railed against the woke mindset because there's nothing you can do. You can be the wokest man in the world and all they'll do is slap you around the face for it.
George Santos
Oh, not just that.
Piers Morgan
They were better off being like me.
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George Santos
well, there was a massive IP also in play, right, that she wanted to grab and sink her claws into along with Ryan Reynolds.
James Barr
So it's.
Piers Morgan
He comes out of it so badly too.
George Santos
He's terrible. And look, the text message exchange between her and Taylor Swift told us. Everything we were curious about is how she behaves in the back end. And when you read those text messages, I mean, look, everything that Adam just said kind of validates almost what we already know, right? This was a major IP grab that Blake live, which.
Piers Morgan
Well, let's look, let's. While I've got you on We've got to talk about the Met gala briefly. Let me start with you, James. I want to show you a picture of Sam Smith.
Emily Austin
I think we all have Sam Smith etched in our brain.
Piers Morgan
Okay, here he comes. Yeah, this is Sam Smith. Who would like us to call him? They. Them.
James Barr
Here they come.
Piers Morgan
Mainly because he's had so many identities over the last few years. Here it comes, James. I mean, it's not what I would wear to an event, is it? Up your. Yeah.
James Barr
I think it's incredible. Look how it's fabulous. It's like. Oh, my God, I love it.
Piers Morgan
Yeah.
James Barr
I mean, the sequins, it's giving Disney villain.
Piers Morgan
Yeah.
James Barr
I don't understand the problem with it. I'm not. I'm not understanding why everyone's getting.
Piers Morgan
You don't see.
James Barr
You don't see.
George Santos
You don't see the theft of Cruella de Vil, Morticia Adams and Esma. Like that's all meshed into one.
James Barr
And he does the theme of the Met Gal. Isn't that the theme of the Met Gala this year? Isn't the problem, Emily.
Piers Morgan
Isn't a problem that he just looks bloody ridiculous?
Emily Austin
I'm sorry. I'm going to disappoint you, Piers, on this one. I actually think Sam looks great.
Piers Morgan
No.
Emily Austin
And you know, Emily, you know, we're the first one to come.
Piers Morgan
The last wall has crumbled.
Emily Austin
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It fits the theme if it's the theme.
Piers Morgan
Okay, so this is an interesting point.
Emily Austin
Art is fashion.
Piers Morgan
This is interesting.
Emily Austin
A lamp that would be in my house with a feather. I. I feel like Cardi b looked like a literal like anal prolapse and a piece of intestine. So I feel like there's just better people to criticize than Sam Smith here.
Piers Morgan
You know what, in a way it may be that I maybe possibly because I never get invited, that I constantly take a cynical view of the Met Gala. Well, actually, maybe the whole point is don't take it too seriously. It obviously is over the top. I mean, Bad Bunny made me laugh out loud. Have you seen Bad Bunny?
James Barr
So good.
Piers Morgan
Who dressed as an 80 year old guy?
James Barr
Yeah, I love that.
George Santos
We actually love Bad Bunny.
Piers Morgan
We try and speed these up. Thank you. Yeah, I mean, that was amazing. He's. He's.
James Barr
He's. I mean, Bad Bunny is incredible.
Piers Morgan
Does anyone know what he came as? What was the point of this other than Harrison?
James Barr
It's just how tired he is at the. The rhetoric online. I'd imagine
George Santos
this was actually very clever. I had loads of Fun watching Bad Bunny in this. This was actually.
Piers Morgan
What's he doing? What's he doing, George? It's.
James Barr
It's an.
George Santos
It's an artistic take. I forgot that there was a description for it, and it escapes me now, but I job there. And as far as art is fashion, there were so many other people, like Emma Chamberlain by Mueller, who looked absolutely fabulous, or Sabrina Carpenter by Peterson Anderson. Like Anderson Peterson. Sorry. It was just so many opportunities of art is fashion there. You saw Jisoo, also by Peterson Anderson.
Piers Morgan
What about Heidi Klum? What about Heidi? Heidi Klum just came as a slabber marble statue, didn't she? We got that.
George Santos
She lives in perpetual. Halloween. It's Halloween every day.
James Barr
I'm sorry. Exceptional.
Piers Morgan
But who goes to an event dressed as a. As a weird statue?
Emily Austin
You know, what she was trying to be, apparently, the veil of Christ, the piece of artwork was called. But why did you need to do the face? Why couldn't you wear that entire thing, the crown, the gown, and then have, like, I don't know, a normal makeup look and have, like, your beautiful blonde?
Piers Morgan
Just. I just don't. I just don't.
George Santos
This was giving a night in the museum vibes. And, like, she's gonna haunt the Met gala after midnight and run.
Piers Morgan
Let's look at Madonna and they have dinner. Madonna turned up with a pyro pirate ship on her head. Let's take a look. I mean, actually a sort of improvement on her normal.
James Barr
I mean, God bless her and all that's there.
Piers Morgan
And you got to hand it to Madonna. She's still out there desperately trying to get attention after all these decades. Let me ask you, Shashti, you know, am I. Am I being a bit of an old fuddy duddy? Is it, like, if you take it too seriously, you're missing the point?
Shasti Floor
I don't know. I think the whole thing is a bit ridiculous. But that's the point. Point of it, too, isn't it? I was just saying that, you know, I wonder how these people sit down and have dinner in these costumes afterwards. Those are the things I think about. Like, they're supposed to have dinner in there with these things on.
Piers Morgan
And, you know, how do they eat? How does Heidi Clynet. She's dressed like a statue.
Emily Austin
You know what you should think about, Pierce? If there were no cameras on that carpet, how many people would show up just to enjoy each other's company? Nobody.
Piers Morgan
None. Nobody did like, it's a one. I did like. I did like Anne Hathaway's outfit. I have a Special reason.
George Santos
Gorgeous.
Piers Morgan
Yeah. I thought she looked. We got a picture of this. I think of Anne Hathaway.
George Santos
Anne Hathaway is having quite the year. Several movies in box office. She looks stunning. Michael Kors did that. Can you believe it? That was a great moment for Michael Kors and Anne Hathaway.
Piers Morgan
I want to make it clear my. My allegiance to Anne Hathaway and her outfit has nothing to do with the fact that compared to completely randomly, at a moment when my football team, Arsenal, are on the verge of historic greatness in winning the Premier League and the European Champions League, that she has suddenly come out as the most random Arsenal fan imaginable and has started singing our anthem. Let's take a look.
Lewis Dunford
London forever Whatever the weather these streets are our home and my heart will leave you never My blood will forever run through the stone.
Piers Morgan
Fabulous. I mean, so that is a song called North London Forever by Lewis Dunford, a young kid in his early 20s. He recorded this song, and a few fans started singing it at the start of last season, then a few more sang it, then a few more sang it, and now it's this incredible anthem that raises the roof at the beginning and end of every game. And we're now on the verge of greatness, and here comes Anne Hathaway, right? And I'm all for it. And if you're watching, I want an interview with you when we win these big trophies in a few weeks, you and me just talking about Arsenal. I don't even want to mention Devil Wears Prada. Forget it. Let's just talk football and Arsenal. She's the perfect woman. She dresses beautifully. She supports Arsenal. She sings magnificently. The Arsenal anthem. If there is such a thing as a perfect woman, Anne Hathaway is making a bid for it right now.
James Barr
Blake Lively just needs to sing an Arsenal anthem, and
Piers Morgan
that would actually be a big test.
Shasti Floor
Let's just turn quickly together.
Piers Morgan
Sarah Paulson, who is worth an estimated $12 million, turned up wearing a dollar bill over her eyes to call out the 1%. Let's take a look now, George, My issue looks great. George. My issue with this is it's just flaming hypocrisy. It's like when AOC turned up, right, and she was wearing a ridiculously expensive dress and banging on about the 1%. It's like, you can't go to the Met Gala, which is the biggest orgy of extravagance imaginable, and start preaching to the world about the 1%. You can't do it.
George Santos
Look, I'm super Conflicted. I'm a massive Sarah Paulson fan. I love American Horror Story and everything she does. She's so good. And it's hard for me to criticize her, especially cuz her dress looked great until she slipped a dollar bill and did her whole political bit. Look, look. It's revolting that these celebrities want to go do political activism in a $100,000 ticketed per person dinner at the Metropolitan Museum. It's kind of tone death. It's dumb, and it really screams hypocrisy. Look at me, the biggest hypocrite of the night. But again, look, to each their own. God bless Sarah Paulson. She looked great. But the dollar bill was ridiculous and she should have not done it.
Piers Morgan
The final point I'd make about hypocrisy, I just want to play a clip. This is Joy Behar on the View on Monday ranting about the Met. Let's take a look.
George Santos
I didn't take an antacid for this.
Joy Behar
I mean, I mean, fine, I love Amazon. Pay your taxes, Bezos. Pay your taxes and pay your employees. And then I'd be happy to do Amazon because it happens to be a very good model for a company, right? But man, it's depressing to think of what goes on in this country. And it cost $100,000 to get into that Met Gala. 100,000. And there are people who can't afford gas, they can't afford food, they can't afford bread. It's like we're living in some kind of Louis XV period in history.
Piers Morgan
I couldn't agree more, George. But here's the beauty, George, of that moment. This is just beyond priceless. Sitting there at the desk, nodding away, was Whoopi Goldberg. Here's Whoopi at last year's Met Gala.
George Santos
Oh, you know what drives me crazy about this is that people are talking about, oh, it's $100,000 this and that. Look, I'm going to defend the Met Gala for a second here at the expense of being criticized. These are all donations to the nonprofit organization curates and maintains the Met Gala. So if Jeff Bezos is giving $10 million to the Met, I'm actually happy that it's going to something that I appreciate, which is maintaining. And I don't.
Piers Morgan
I don't disagree with you. I don't. And actually, Emily, just to round things off, I mean, actually, ironically, Lauren Sanchez, who's Jeff Bezos, other half, who put it on with him, she actually had one of the least outrageous and ostentatious outfits and look great.
Emily Austin
Yes. I said this on my podcast yesterday. Sometimes less is more. And I noticed the celebrities that I ranked highest and, like, best dressed were usually like, MARGOT Robbie, Tate McRae. They were something very simple because sometimes let your beauty speak for itself. And like, Lauren's a beautiful woman. She's a bit older, but she's still, like, you know, has it. She's a bit older than most people
James Barr
on the restaurant to do with anything.
Emily Austin
She has a great. I'm just saying, she let her face.
George Santos
She has great assets, I'll give you that.
Emily Austin
Yeah, she has great assets. But my issue with the celebrities in particular boycotting over Bezos was there was one in particular and you should find out her name. I said it yesterday. She was like, I'm not attending the Met Gala because I'm boycotting Jeff Bezos, but she sells hair care products on Amazon. Of course, it's always socialism for the.
Piers Morgan
Of course. Of course. It's the hypocrisy that in the end kills. I don't mind. I'm up for all of it. You can go there, pay your money, raise money for charity, wear your dresses, do the whole thing. Just don't be a flaming bloody hypocrite, because that's the point. You lose me. Anyway, panel, great debate. Thank you all very much indeed.
George Santos
Thank you. Thanks for having us.
Emily Austin
See you next time.
Shasti Floor
Thank you.
Piers Morgan
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Date: May 7, 2026
Host: Piers Morgan
Special Guests: Emily Austin, James Barr, George Santos, Shasti Floor, Adam Mondschein
This lively episode dives fearlessly into two hot-button pop culture stories: the jaw-dropping, last-minute settlement in the Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni legal battle, and the highs and (hilarious) lows of the 2026 Met Gala. In typical “Uncensored” style, Piers and his eclectic panel analyze the fallout, hypocrisy, and public perception swirling around celebrity scandals and fashion excess. The episode also features exclusive, behind-the-scenes reflections from actor Adam Mondschein, who worked directly with both Lively and Baldoni on "It Ends With Us."
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The discussion maintains Piers Morgan’s trademark brashness, heavy with sarcasm, quick-witted jabs, and sharp personal critiques. The panel is candid, combative, and driven by a mix of cynicism and pop culture obsession. Adam Mondschein offers a more empathic and insider’s perspective, briefly shifting the tone to genuine reflection.
This summary distills the most engaging discussions, memorable quotes, and insider revelations from a jam-packed, opinion-heavy episode of “Piers Morgan Uncensored.”