“Mamdani Should Be ARRESTED!” NYC Mayor vs ‘War Criminal’ Netanyahu | With Nancy Mace

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Piers Morgan Uncensored

Episode: “Mamdani Should Be ARRESTED!” NYC Mayor vs ‘War Criminal’ Netanyahu | With Nancy Mace
Release Date: July 22, 2026
Host: Piers Morgan
Guests: Nancy Mace, Anna Kasparian, Jenna Ellis, Caroline Sunshine, Lauren Boebert, Danny Danon (Israeli Ambassador to the UN)

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Episode Overview

This episode of Piers Morgan Uncensored is a high-voltage roundtable centered on New York City Mayor Zoram Mamdani’s call for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to be arrested for alleged war crimes if he visits NYC for the UN General Assembly. The show explores the limits of US legal authority, American-Israeli relations, the International Criminal Court’s (ICC) authority, the evolving US role in Middle Eastern conflicts, and the political fallout for those on both sides of the debate. The episode features strong, sometimes heated, exchanges between lawmakers, commentators, and the Israeli ambassador.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Netanyahu Arrest Debate

• Piers Morgan outlines that an ICC arrest warrant exists for Netanyahu on charges of war crimes, but the US (and thus NYC) lacks authority to enforce this since it is not a party to the ICC ([03:09]).

• Mayor Mamdani's Stance: Mamdani's campaign promise to arrest Netanyahu even at the UN was ruled legally impossible, leading to calls for the federal government to act instead ([03:14]).

  • Morgan on the ICC and US Sovereignty: "A warrant for the arrest of a world leader is an extreme measure of last resort. [...] It means the Israeli Prime Minister would be arrested on arrival in 125 countries..." ([03:09])

• Nancy Mace (Interview): Calls Mamdani’s move “extraordinarily stupid” ([04:53]) and accuses him of grandstanding for attention instead of running NYC:

  • “Go pick up trash, fill the potholes, get the homeless people off the streets” ([05:11]).

• Panel Reactions:

  • Anna Kasparian: Supports Mamdani’s messaging as a principled moral stand against impunity for alleged war crimes, noting public sentiment in both Israel and the US is turning against Netanyahu ([18:16]).
    • "We're supposed to be the good guys and we're defending the bad guys" ([18:57]).
  • Jenna Ellis: Rebuts that this is a “clash between US sovereignty and globalism,” arguing America should not be subject to the ICC since it hasn’t ratified the treaty ([19:08], [20:27]).
  • Caroline Sunshine: Suggests arrest threats may merely create a “martyrdom effect” for Netanyahu, calls for withdrawal of US military aid to Israel instead ([24:36]).

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2. Accusations of Antisemitism & Political Motives

• Mamdani and critics of Israel are repeatedly accused of antisemitism, both by Mace and Israeli Ambassador Danny Danon ([54:24]).
  • Kasparian: Pushes back, calling this a tactic to silence legitimate criticism of government actions ([41:08]).
    • “If you do [criticize Netanyahu], you're anti-Semitic. Is bullshit. And I'm kind of done with that.” — Piers Morgan ([41:45])

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3. The War in Iran & US Involvement

• Escalating Costs: Discussion on the spiraling costs of the US-led “non-war” with Iran — over $37 billion already spent, with Pentagon seeking $67 billion more ([32:16],[32:56]).
• Lauren Boebert: Objects to US involvement and mounting costs; highlights congressional pushback and the controversial proposal to merge US and Israeli militaries ([46:25]).
  • “[Pentagon] wants 350 billion as soon as possible and a total of 1.5 trillion. [...] I did not vote for new wars, more wars, never ending wars. And I want this resolved as quickly as possible.” ([44:24])

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4. Panel on ICC, Sovereignty & Israel-US Dynamics

• Kasparian: Links US Congressional support for Israel to lobbying, questions US subservience to Israeli interests — “...foreign lobbying groups have the ability to buy off our politicians...” ([21:35]).
• Ellis and Sunshine: Argue for prioritizing American over global interests, opposing subordination of US law and military to foreign powers ([19:08], [23:31]).
• Morgan: Critiques the lack of accountability and transparency regarding war allegations in Gaza, calling on Israel to allow free international press access ([41:45], [63:01]).

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5. Additional Topics: Social Issues and Safety of Politicians

• Nancy Mace discusses her experience with threats and the violent risks to public figures, revealing significant personal security measures ([15:59]).
  • “I get over 1,300 death threats a year, Piers, and I'm criticized for talking about it.” ([15:59])
• Panel Debates on Gender and Museum Displays: Mace reiterates her opposition to gender ideology and drag shows in museums for children ([11:58]-[13:24]).

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6. Israeli Ambassador Danny Danon Speaks

• Danon dismisses NYC Mayor’s threat: “With all due respect, Piers, who cares what the mayor of New York thinks?...You should take care of the garbage of New York.” ([53:06])
• Accuses Mamdani of supporting terrorists and using Israel as a distraction from NYC’s problems ([53:15]).
• Equates criticism of the Israeli government with antisemitism, but refrains from agreeing that Jewish voters for Mamdani are “self-loathing” ([54:24], [56:34]).
• Justifies Gaza media ban: Claims it’s for journalists’ safety, and that many killed journalists were actually Hamas militants ([62:18]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Nancy Mace on Mamdani:

  “Extraordinarily stupid. [...] Go pick up trash, fill the potholes, get the homeless people off the streets...” ([04:53]-[05:12])

• Piers Morgan on ICC Warrant:

  "A warrant for the arrest of a world leader is an extreme measure of last resort..." ([03:09])

• Anna Kasparian on US-Israeli Relations:

  “We get dragged into wars on behalf of Israel, we get implicated in the war crimes that they commit.” ([21:35])

• Jenna Ellis on ICC:

  “…the question of America retaining its sovereignty really is at the heart of this.” ([19:08])

• Piers Morgan on allegations of antisemitism:

  “The whole shtick of accusing people who criticize Netanyahu's government of doing bad things... is bullshit. And I'm kind of done with that.” ([41:45])

• Danny Danon on Mamdani:

  “I think that Mayor Mamdani should be arrested.” ([53:15])

• Caroline Sunshine on military aid:

  "I think the best way to get that [peace and justice] is to withdraw US military aid to Israel. Israel cannot wage war and it cannot commit war crimes without the aid of the US Military." ([24:36])

• Piers Morgan on Gaza:

  "If you want to exonerate yourself from the charge of committing war crimes in Gaza... then let the international media in to do their jobs freely..." ([41:45], [63:01])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:09 – Piers Morgan explains ICC arrest warrant & US constraints
• 04:34 – Nancy Mace begins interview, blasting Mamdani’s stance
• 11:58 – Mace discusses Congressional gender hearing (“what is a woman”)
• 18:16 – Kasparian supports Mamdani, discusses public opinion on Israel
• 20:07 – Clash over sovereignty, ICC, and US legal positions
• 24:36 – Caroline Sunshine argues for ending US military aid to Israel
• 32:16 – Spiraling cost of US "non-war" in Iran highlighted
• 44:24 – Boebert critiques defense spending & military ‘merger’ with Israel
• 53:06 – Danny Danon responds to Mamdani’s comments on Netanyahu
• 62:01 – Morgan presses Danon on Gaza media ban and journalist deaths

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Tone & Style

The discussion is combative and direct throughout, with guests consistently challenging one another and the host. Piers Morgan steers the conversation, often playing devil’s advocate and pushing back against what he calls bad faith arguments, especially around allegations of antisemitism and suppression of criticism regarding Israeli policy.

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Conclusion

This episode starkly illuminates divides in US and international politics over the Israel-Palestine conflict, the legitimacy of international legal frameworks like the ICC, and the extent and consequences of US military involvement in the Middle East. The panel lays bare sharply contrasting views about American sovereignty versus international accountability and the broad political and moral stakes for current and future leaders.

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For listeners seeking an unvarnished and often heated debate about one of the world’s most contentious political flashpoints, this episode delivers in spades.

Transcript

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[Piers Morgan]

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[Nancy Mace]

Extraordinarily stupid. He's sitting around trying to be President of the United States.

[Lauren Boebert]

He's mayor.

[Nancy Mace]

Go pick up trash.

[Jenna Ellis]

Mamdani is simply wrong.

[Anna Kasparian]

We are not a sovereign country. We're talking about Netanyahu. This is about messaging to the world what we represent as Americans. Do we provide cover for modern day Nazis? You're literally marketing that anti Semitism is a good thing.

[Jenna Ellis]

You can calm down.

[Lauren Boebert]

Socialist Mayor Mamandani is actually doing his best to flip our entire nation into a socialist nation.

[Danny Danon]

Who cares about what the Mayor of New York thinks? I think that Mayor Dani should be arrested.

[Piers Morgan]

Benjamin Netanyahu is a wanted man. The International Criminal Court has an active warrant for his arrest on suspicion of war crimes and crimes against humanity. A lot has been said to slander the icc, and a lot is made of the fact that the US has never ratified his membership. But the fact remains that a warrant for the arrest of a world leader is an extreme measure of last resort. It means the Israeli Prime Minister would be arrested on arrival in 125 countries, including the UK, Canada and Australia. His name is on a very short list alongside Vladimir Putin and the military rulers of Myanmar and Sudan. Very few people criticized the ICC until Netanyahu's name was added. It's on that basis that New York City Mayor Zoram Mandani has spent months doubling down on the campaign pledge to arrest Netanyahu at the UN General assembly in September. He now accepts that he can't do that. As I've said, I agree with the ICC that Benjamin Netanyahu should be arrested and tried for his crimes as I do for anyone else charged by the icc. My administration has reviewed every avenue available under applicable law to determine whether New York City could execute the International Criminal Court's arrest warrant with Benjamin Netanyahu came here. It is clear that we do not have the independent legal authority to enforce this warrant. The Federal government, however, does, and I call on them to join the ICC and execute this warrant. And I want to be equally clear, Benjamin Netanyahu is not welcome in New York City, nor is any other war criminal at large. Well, the US didn't join the ICC despite playing a big part in its formation, for very clear reasons. It recognizes the supremacy of his own Supreme Court above all others. And with US Servicemen uniquely dispersed all across the globe, an international authority exposed them to political risk. On that basis, it probably didn't take a legal scholar, nor the exhausting of all legal avenues to figure out whether Mehr Mamdani could put Bibi Netanyahu in cuffs. That's why his critics are dismissing it all as a stunt. Senator John Fetterman, who is currently still a Democrat, accused him of clickbait. He's a total clown. I mean, he has the authority to arrest Netanyahu any more than I would have the authority to arrest him in Washington, D.C. if he visited. Down in Washington, D.C. you're a mayor, dude. You know, pick up trash, fix some potholes, and really fix the homeless problem in your city, too. You know, you're way out of your league. And now this is irresponsible. But like I said, he's just a total clown. And it's just for clicks. At this point, he knows that he has nothing actionable. It's interesting how so many of Israel's most blinkered supporters claim that every criticism must be for clicks. If for clicks means for popularity, it may be the case that the killing of tens of thousands of civilians in Gaza and Lebanon isn't that popular. Well, President Trump posted, netanyahu will not be arrested in any way, shape or form. His administration has attempted to sanction the icc, although in the same, he did call for Iran's leaders to be arrested, presumably under the authority of the icc. And putting the politics to one side, what Madani's threat against Netanyahu has achieved is a global profile of his alleged war crimes. Netanyahu will not be arrested when he travels to New York City in September. He may already have been convicted in the court of public opinion. We'll debate all this in a few minutes with my panel, but joining me first is Republican Congresswoman Nancy Mace. Welcome back to Uncensored.

[Nancy Mace]

Good to see you.

[Piers Morgan]

Pierce Nassimaz. Just on that issue of Benjamin Netanyahu, it's pretty extraordinary for the mayor of New York City to come out and demand he be arrested and say he wishes he could do that, but actually only the federal government can and he urged them to do it. What is your reaction?

[Nancy Mace]

Extraordinarily stupid. And one of the things that he said in his statement that you just showed Pierce is that, you know, anyone affiliated with terrorism would be and should be arrested. Yet just days ago, members of his own staff were trying to meet with the IRGC with Iranians. So, I mean, and the story is, the rumor is on Drudge Report today that in his office, according to the FBI, he may have been trying to meet with Iranian officials. So it's crazy to me. And the second thing that comes to mind, and the question I think is very valid, is how many Jews voted for Mamdani? To me, I'm just so perplexed by the whole idea of this guy coming to America eight years ago from Kampala and all of a sudden he's sitting around trying to be President of the United States. He's mayor. And I agree with John Fetterman. Go pick up trash, fill the potholes, get the homeless people off the streets and maybe, just maybe try to get an illegal alien not to murder our women and girls in New York City or rape them.

[Piers Morgan]

I mean, the interesting thing about the question you raise is that a lot of younger Jewish people did vote for him. That's one of the reasons he won. And you know, that it may be perplexing, but of course there is a rising tide of anti Israeli sentiment across America. You know, a significant majority of Americans now have a negative view of what Israel's government's been doing and of the country, which is, you know, for people like me that love Israel and the Israeli people, is extremely shocking, a sad state of affairs. But I would point to the activities of a lot of people in that government and say, well, that is the reason, you know, when you've got people like Ben GVIR Smodrich and these psychos doing terrible things, you are going to make your country very unpopular. Do you not have a concern about that?

[Nancy Mace]

Well, I mean, that's up to their voters of Israel to decide who they want to have lead Israel. I mean, there is one Jewish state in the world and that is Israel. And there are people across the globe that want to eradicate that. Just like in the Middle east. There's one Christian state in the Middle east and that's Lebanon. And you know, I have concerns about what's going on in Lebanon as well, but that's up to the Jewish people to decide. And you know, you know, I sort of look at this as how self loathing are they that they elected someone this this guy Mamdani, who clearly I think has ulterior motives. I mean, to me, I'm just scratching my head on how the hell we allowed this to happen in our country of all places.

[Piers Morgan]

I mean, it's an extraordinary charge to say that any Jewish person who voted for Mamdani is self loathing, isn't it?

[Nancy Mace]

I think it is self loathing, you know, and I have a strong Jewish coalition in my district in Congress. And that's one of the things that we often talk about. And I brought it up to the issue, up to people who hate Bibi, want him arrested. Jewish people, it's me. It's perplexing, it's confusing. And I don't know how any Jewish person could vote for a man like Mamdani and what he stands for.

[Piers Morgan]

Let's talk about somebody else who has also been arrested this week. Andrew Tate and his brother, Tristan Tate. It's a kind of fascinating saga. This, because they have both been embraced by large sections of the conservative right in America, and yet here they've just both been arrested on American soil. And the UK has asked for extradition, which the US is apparently going to grant. And the Trump administration has said it won't get involved in trying to stop that happening. In other words, they don't view it as a political arrest. They're facing very serious charges, up to 60 charges in total. What is your view of what's happened here?

[Nancy Mace]

Well, I think there's this culture of rape and I. And it's not just one sided, it's not just Republicans or it's not just Democrats. Look at Graham Plattner in Maine who was just nominated. And there were the stories about alleged sexual assaults, alleged sexual predatory behavior that were largely ignored by the press until they couldn't ignore it anymore until Democrat women came forward. And then finally the mainstream media started paying attention. But we do have this culture. We just saw members of both parties, whether it was Tony Gonzalez out of Texas, Eric Swalwell out of California, removed from Congress, kicked out, forced to resign because of that behavior. And I think overall, you know, when you have this kind of thing happening and no one is ever held accountable, no one ever gets investigated, no one goes to jail, no one gets fired from their job for this kind of alleged behavior. All you're doing is breeding more sexual predatory behavior towards women and underage girls. Which is why, as a survivor, Pierce, I have been just out there. It cost me my political career because I think child rapists should go to jail. In fact, I think they should be executed. And I was one of four Republicans to sign that discharge petition on Epstein. But this is why it's so important for us to be vocal and hold people to account, regardless of politics, regardless of the wealth, regardless of who they are, regardless of Republican or Democrat. People need to be investigated and then they need to go to jail if they're found guilty.

[Piers Morgan]

And to those who say this is a political stitch up, this is obviously what the Tates have been saying. And there are many, again on the maga right in particular, who've been racing to defend them and say it's all political and so on. What do you say to them?

[Nancy Mace]

I think it's gross. I think anyone running to the rescue of individuals who have these kinds of allegations. We're talking about over two dozen potential indictments by the uk, including potential or alleged child sexual assault. I mean, this is. It's egregious and I think it is a detriment and a slap to the face of women and girls everywhere. There's a reason why a state like South Carolina and so many others while why, you know, assaults and domestic violence cases are dropped 47% of the time. There's a reason why you can't. No one ever investigates sexual assault because these things just aren't taken seriously. And when you give individuals like this, with these kinds of allegations, this kind of a platform, this kind of praise, all you're going to do is to continue this cycle and recycle the predatory behavior against our daughters. And I am vehemently against it. I don't care who you are. I don't care what political party you are. Until we stop this with our voices and with our demands for justice, none of this is going to stop. And it's disgusting. I almost feel like sometimes, Pierce, that we're moving backwards. Like it's getting worse and not better. I mean, you just had Mamdani, the mayor of New York, say that the reason that the rape cases are that the way they are because they've expanded the definition of rape. Well, look at. Look, Mayor Mamdani. Rape is rape. Sexual assault is sexual assault. No definitions need to be changed to know what that is. We all know what it is and know what it harbors. And this culture is just breeding more assaults towards our women and girls. And it's wrong. It's disgusting.

[Piers Morgan]

The other thing that we should all know what it is when we see it is what is a woman. And you were recently involved in this extraordinary grilling in the House where you repeatedly pressed the Smithsonian history Museum director Anthea Hartig on whether men can be women. Let's take a look.

[Nancy Mace]

I'm moving on because you just.

[Caroline Sunshine]

They've.

[Nancy Mace]

I don't know how much money you spent on getting prepped for this hearing. They did a good job. Because you're filibustering and not answering a single question from a single Republican today. Do you believe that men can become women?

[Anna Kasparian]

Ma', am, as the director of the museum, that's not relevant in this case.

[Nancy Mace]

It's very relevant. You've got men dressed up as women and you have them on displays in front of kids. Do you think men can become women? Yes or no?

[Anna Kasparian]

So RuPaul's Drag Race, which is the upper.

[Nancy Mace]

It's a man. RuPaul is a man who dresses like a woman.

[Caroline Sunshine]

Literally.

[Anna Kasparian]

Correct.

[Nancy Mace]

What is a woman? Dr. Hartigan,

[Anna Kasparian]

as a director and as a historian, it's not my opportunity.

[Nancy Mace]

You sexualized the American History Museum, so this is a fair question. What is a woman? So at the museum, what is a woman?

[Anna Kasparian]

We strive to represent and not categorize all.

[Piers Morgan]

It's like watching an episode of Uncensored that. I mean, it is quite extraordinary to see women who've reached powerful positions in America, who, when asked a very simple question about what is a woman? To which the only conceivable answer is a biological female. That is the dictionary definition. It is the scientific definition. Why they can't answer, particularly given how this debate has been conducted over the last few years, is completely beyond me.

[Nancy Mace]

It's insanity. And I've asked this question. I'm known for it. It's classic Mace behavior in an oversight hearing. Every Democrat that I have asked, I feel like I've asked dozens of them now over the years, they cannot answer the question. And my favorite was Governor Tim Walz. When I asked him the same question, he said he didn't understand the question. And then just this week, Pierce, we had a physician from a prestigious medical university who trains the United States premier doctors couldn't answer whether or not only women could give birth to babies. I mean, this is. I feel like everything is upside down. These are lunatics in charge of medicine in the United States, in charge of a government funded American history museum that has been sexualized. And that's what these people are doing. And I consider it indoctrination of our children, that this is grooming again, putting our underage kids and our girls and our daughters in a very vulnerable position by this kind of behavior. It's nonsense.

[Piers Morgan]

Yeah, completely agree. Just finally, yesterday, an Indianapolis woman was sentenced to 27 months in federal prison after pleading guilty to threatening to kill you. In a series of violent messages you posted on X, not one, but two people in two different cases in two different states were sentenced today for death threats against me. And you express gratitude to law enforcement and prosecutors. You know the significance of this. One got 27 months, one got five years in prison. But these messages that they sent you included, come outside, bitch. We'll kill you. We will kill you and blow that whole building up. Bitch, come outside. Shut up, ho. I'll kill you. I hope you got Mace, because you're going to need it. Tread lightly. The other one said, I'm going to assassinate Representative Nancy Mace with a gun, and I'm being 100% deadass. Now, this is against the backdrop of the third British Member of Parliament in just over 10 years to be murdered in the UK for, we assume, although this case hasn't been tried yet for politically motivated reasons. Anne Widdcombe was, you know, a woman nearly 80 years old. I knew her well. Somebody traveled 300 miles to beat her to death with a hammer and has now been charged with her murder. So we can't, for legal reasons here, go into speculation about what motivated that person. However, the reality is that's three politicians murdered in the UK in just over 10 years. These are serious, these threats against elected officials, aren't they?

[Nancy Mace]

They're very serious. And we've had multiple individuals on both sides of the aisle, Democrat and Republican, murdered or attempted to be murdered for their political viewpoints. And so there is no tolerance for any sort of violence anywhere. I am deeply grateful to law enforcement for stepping in and for the prosecutors. I get over 1,300 death threats a year, Pierce, and I'm criticized for talking about it. And we have blue states with prosecutors who refuse to prosecute many of these people because of their death threats. Because of my own political views, a lot of the death threats I get are from transgender individuals. And one of the two people yesterday was transgender who was sentenced. And I believe, Pierce, this is sort of historic. I don't know of another member of Congress that had two people sentenced on the same day for the death threats against them. And it's. It's egregious. I don't get a security detail. I don't get, like, Secret Service, anything like that. I have to pay for, you know, for security services out of the office. And even when I'm personally going the grocery store, I have to tell you, Pierce, I have a wig just to go to the grocery stores that I'm not recognized to buy groceries so that my children aren't harmed when I'm around. I tend to really attract aggressive behavior when my kids are with me. And we've had to modify our entire lifestyle. And one of the things I'm looking forward to, I'm going to miss Congress, but I will not miss the death threats that are on my life. What I've had to deal with, how I've had to change my entire lifestyle from where I live to how I go out when I'm with my children, our entire lives have been changed. And I'm looking forward to hopefully some of that simmering down, but probably if I keep shitposting, it's probably gonna never go away.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, you should be allowed to post what you like. It's a free country. But it's terrible. I think these threats against elected officials are terrible, whoever they're directed at. Nancy Mace, thank you very much indeed for joining me.

[Lauren Boebert]

Thank you, Pierce.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, for more, let's bring in today's panel host and executive producer for young Turks, Anicas Berrin, former Trump attorney and radio broadcaster Jenna Ellis, and former Trump press aide K. Caroline Sunshine. Welcome to all of you. Anna Kasparian Mamdani has taken a lot of flack, including just from Nancy Mace, about this call for Netanyahu to be arrested. What is your view of what he said?

[Anna Kasparian]

Well, despite the fact that he doesn't have the jurisdiction to be able to arrest Benjamin Netanyahu, I think what he is messaging to the country is something that's actually deeply popular. In fact, if you look at the public opinion polling in Israel, the view of Netanyahu is a very negative one. But Mamdani is the one who actually has a moral stance on this issue. Given the crimes against humanity that have been carried out by Netanyahu and his government and the fact that we have members of Congress who continue to defend Netanyahu despite the slaughter of children, despite all of the war crimes that we've seen in multiple countries in the region. I just think it's, it's just shameful. It's shameful that we have politicians who are providing cover for that. We're supposed to be the good guys and we're defending the bad guys.

[Piers Morgan]

Janet Ellis, your response to what Anna said?

[Jenna Ellis]

Well, absolutely not. What's actually very popular still is American sovereignty. And the issue here in the clash is between US Sovereignty and globalism because the United States has never ratified this treaty. What Mamdani is suggesting falsely is that America can simply manufacture warrants at the behest of the icc and that somehow we need to be part of a treaty that the U.S. senate has never ratified. And what Mamdani is suggesting is that we participate in this unelected bureaucracy and give over more of our sovereignty. That has always been a bipartisan issue here, that even the Clinton administration refused to submit it to the Senate to ratify back in the early 2000s. This is a very deeply unpopular issue. And regardless of where anyone stands on Israel, the question of America retaining its sovereignty really is at the heart of this. And Mamdani is simply wrong.

[Piers Morgan]

Okay, Caroline Sunshine. I mean, Mandani did.

[Anna Kasparian]

It's ironic because we are not a sovereign country. We're not a sovereign country.

[Jenna Ellis]

We actually are not.

[Anna Kasparian]

The reason why you have ruled by the US Constitution basically providing cover for literal war crimes and crimes against humanity is because our Congress is bought by Israeli interests through the Israel lobby. But that's okay. I mean, some forms of sovereignty violations are apparently okay.

[Jenna Ellis]

No, it's not about sovereignty violations because Palestine is not a recognized state. The ICC recognized them for purposes of being able to ratify the ICC and claim jurisdiction. But even that is debated within the icc. So Israel, if it believes under their own law that Netanyahu personally is responsible, needs to be held accountable for war crimes. Let them prosecute him, not have the US Be part and parcel to a criminal court that we don't recognize, nor should we, because we don't want our US American soldiers or our presidents to have to submit to that type of jurisdiction. That has never been part of the U.S. constitution. It's never been ratified by the U.S. senate, and absolutely would undermine American sovereignty. But listen, this is exactly where Mamdani wants to go because they have tried President Trump in state court, federal court, in the US Senate. There's nowhere else to go but the International Criminal Court. And that's why he's pushing this. This isn't actually about Israel. Ultimately, we're not talking about Trump.

[Anna Kasparian]

We're talking about Netanyahu. We're talking about a who is guilty of crimes against humanity. This is not about Trump. I saw the little cut.

[Jenna Ellis]

That's an assumption there.

[Anna Kasparian]

But it depends

[Jenna Ellis]

on to the world

[Anna Kasparian]

what we represent as Americans. Do we provide cover for modern day Nazis or do we actually want to bring those Nazis to justice? And unfortunately, we live in today where corruption is baked into our system and foreign lobbying groups have the ability to buy off our politicians. We get dragged into wars on behalf of Israel, we get implicated in the War crimes that they commit. And what Mamdadi is trying to signal is that there are Americans who disagree with this. There are Americans who have been elected as public servants who are actually against this. They can't be bought. And I really appreciate that. Despite the fact that he doesn't have the jurisdiction to unilaterally arrest Netanyahu. It's about messaging and basically messaging what our values are as Americans.

[Piers Morgan]

Okay, let me bring in.

[Jenna Ellis]

Neither does it.

[Piers Morgan]

Hang on, hang on, hang on. Jenna, I want to bring in Caroline. She's not a chance to. Donald Trump said on Monday Netanyahu will not be arrested. He wrote, benjamin Netanyahu will not be arrested in any way, shape or form while in the United States of America. He's fighting against the Islamic Republic of Iran, which recently killed 52,000 innocent protesters and has spent the last 47 years killing American soldiers and others. The only ones who should be arrested are the people that led Iran into this unprecedented spiral of death and destruction. Something that should have been dealt with years ago by previous presidents. So what is your view of this?

[Caroline Sunshine]

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[Jenna Ellis]

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[Caroline Sunshine]

Because I think Netanyahu does one hell of a job of putting Israel first and getting larger, more powerful countries to subjugate their own interests to align with his interests. And I, I wish I had people in my country that were doing the same thing, because maybe then we wouldn't be in the most unpopular war in our country's history that the president refuses

[Nancy Mace]

to call a war.

[Caroline Sunshine]

As of yesterday, he called it the Iran military conflict. You know, is Netanyahu a war criminal? Maybe, maybe not. I still believe everybody in my system is innocent until proven guilty. So that would mean that he would have to go to trial and he would have to go to the International Criminal Court. Let's play it out, right? Let's say he Gets a trial, let's say.

[Piers Morgan]

But he's not going to do that is the point, isn't it? He doesn't recognize it either. He thinks it's a load of trumped up charges for political reasons. So he's saying, I want nothing to do with the icc. America doesn't recognize the icc. So it's very hard to see how, given those two situations and those two positions, he would ever face a trial by the icc. I mean, he'll just refuse.

[Anna Kasparian]

Yeah.

[Caroline Sunshine]

And what I worry is that it'll just create a political martyrdom effect where I think the better solution here is what I want is peace and justice in the Middle East. And I think the best way to get that is to withdraw US Military aid to Israel. Israel cannot wage war and it cannot commit war crimes without the aid of the US Military. And right now, Netanyahu is not very popular inside Israel, is my understanding, not too popular of a guy.

[Nancy Mace]

His.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, the, well, the interesting thing actually about his poll numbers is personally not very popular, but his military actions against Iran, against Hezbollah in Lebanon and so on, they are very popular internally. So there's a slight disconnect and it may explain why he is so aggressively pursuing such an aggressive military strategy. It's that that gets him the polling numbers rather than anything he's doing domestically.

[Danny Danon]

Yeah.

[Caroline Sunshine]

And that's where I say, I worry that if there was any, ever to be any prosecution of Netanyahu, you would create a martyrdom effect within Israel where you would just essentially get a younger version of him at some point, which is what we've seen in Iran. Right. When we took out the Ayatollah. They've had a rally around the flag effect. Martyrdom effects are very real. But I think it would send an important message. I'd like to see how popular the military action is once the US Military aid is withdrawn as a result of overstepping boundaries. I'd like to see how those poll numbers do, I think right now. Yeah, sorry, to your point of sovereignty. Yeah. Just to finish though, you know, we might not have control, to your point over what goes on in the International Criminal Court, but what we do have control over is a bill that's in the US Congress right now up for a vote, suggesting that the United States military and the Israeli military merge. And I don't see any reason for that to happen. I see that only benefiting, again, Israeli interests, not American interests. And Benjamin Netanyahu, war criminal or not, is very good at getting a much larger, more powerful country to subjugate its own interest to his and that should not continue.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, he certainly is anarchist beren from one big country and it happens to be the biggest country in the world, which is the United States. And you know, look, the thing with Netanyahu, he's even avoiding a trial involving personal alleged criminal conduct by using the warfare he's engaged in as a constant reason to postpone the trial. So this is a very seasoned, skillful, ruthless and cunning political operator at work here, but where do we go from here? I mean, it's all very well Mamdani saying all this. Trump has now said it's never going to happen federally on his watch. So where does that accountability come? It's not going to come, I don't think internally in Israel, unless potentially he takes a huge beating in the election, which is not by any means certain. The poll numbers are quite close there at the moment for a number of candidates and he's still right in the mix who could easily win again. But where does the accountability come if he simply says, you know, two fingers to the icc, I don't care.

[Anna Kasparian]

Look, this is gonna sound a little woo woo for some people and that's fine. But I've already accepted that we do not live in a just. And it's very likely that he wouldn't suffer any consequences in this lifetime. But if you take a look at his recent appearances, he's very sick. You can tell he's lost a lot of weight, he's pale. I know that he had some bout with cancer. He claims he's conquered it. I don't believe him. And I think that behaving as an evil person who devalues human lives, who uses acts of war in order to skirt responsibility for corruption charges, that type of evil eats away at you from the inside. And I think that's what we're seeing with his public appearances lately. I mean, he has a raspier voice every time I hear him speak. And so I've kind of made peace with the fact that maybe it's not going to be real justice in the tangible world that we live in. Maybe the justice is actually gonna be carried out on a much deeper level. But I will say this, I totally agree with what Caroline just said. I think the best thing that we can do as Americans is really consider what we want our values to be, what we wanna project out into the world, and what kind of alliances we want to forge. I think questioning our alliance with Israel is a very important thing to do at this moment, especially considering the fact that we are currently losing American service members fighting a war on Israel's behalf. And Israel's finance minister, Basil El Smotrich, was just on tape basically bragging about the fact that they've got us exactly where they want us. We are fighting their war for them. They're not dealing with strikes from Iran. They're not dealing with IDF soldiers getting killed. They're not paying for this war, bankrolling it like the American taxpayers are. And so he's happy to see this happen. This is what the Israelis wanted. They got what they wanted. And I think it's important for Americans to be honest to themselves about what's actually going on here.

[Piers Morgan]

How significant.

[Anna Kasparian]

Taken for a ride, take advantage of.

[Piers Morgan]

Right. How significant is Rahm Emanuel's position in this? Because here you've got one of the leading candidates potentially to run for president as a Democrat, who has come out and said that the funding from the United States should stop for Israel. That's a big call by him. And he's got a powerful family. Ari Emanuel, his brother, obviously one of the most powerful people in Hollywood. That's a very deliberate play he's making, I think. Could that be successful? I mean, it's just the way the party's going.

[Anna Kasparian]

There's been reporting about Rahm Emanuel's family and their ties to the Irgun terrorists in Israel, which, by the way, terrorized my own maternal family members who fled the Armenian genocide for safety to Haifa. But putting that aside, I just. I don't trust Rahm Emanuel. I think that he thinks he's pulling a fast one on us. Some people are buying it. I'm not buying it. He's a huge Zionist, huge supporter of Israel. He knows that making these statements might help him with his 2028 presidential bid. He knows that it's not actually going to happen. We're not gonna cut funding to Israel. So it's an easy trick, an easy way to market himself as something that he is not. He is not a peacenik. He is definitely a pro Israel operative, and he will prove to be such if he's ever elected into public service ever again.

[Piers Morgan]

Okay, Jenna. The U.S. defense Secretary, or he's the Secretary of War. Now, Pete Hegseth told the Senate on Tuesday that the U.S. israel war in Iran so far cost $37.5 billion. That's from February 28th to July 22nd. Now, per day, that is $260.4 million a day, per hour. $10.8 million per hour, per minute. $180,000 per minute. And $3,000 per second. So even as I say the words Caroline Sunshine, what is your reaction to that? I probably incurred another $10,000 in American public costs for a war that the American public do not want to be happening. They didn't to start with. They definitely don't now. I still am scratching my head about how a president who, in his campaign to be reelected said that he didn't want to get involved in any more pointless Middle Eastern wars. He wanted America first, get the cost of living down, and so on. How does any of this make sense?

[Caroline Sunshine]

Yeah, it doesn't. And my first reaction is that's a lot of money just to close the Strait of Hormuz and enter into what is now, according to recent polling from the Economist, America's most unpopular war in our history. That's including Vietnam. So what's interesting is if you look at the president's Truth Social post from yesterday, he too, also has an awareness of how unpopular this war is. He sent out a tweet on Truth Social that I found to be insensitive. If I'm honest, I have a pretty high tolerance for what the president posts on Truth Social. I don't consider myself to be a snowflake. 99%. That's on there. Good with me. But this one listed out, you know, America's wars, everything from the Korean War up into this current war, and it listed out the death totals of how many soldiers we lost in each conflict. And then it didn't call the Iran war the Iran War. It called the Iran War the Iranian military conflict.

[Piers Morgan]

You know why they do that?

[Caroline Sunshine]

Interesting.

[Piers Morgan]

You know why they do that? They do it because, at the moment, they call it a war. They have to get congressional approval. And in fact, to be fair to Trump on this particular point, no American president since World War II has called any military action a war for that reason. So Obama didn't. You know, no one does. Right. Clinton didn't. They don't do it because that way they can avoid having to seek prior congressional approval.

[Caroline Sunshine]

Yes. And I also think it has to do with the president understanding where public sentiment is. If this was a war that we were winning, if this was a war that was popular, I think the president would be happy to be the wartime president. You know, he's the producer in chief. He sees himself as the star in a movie. He would be happy to be that. But even he has an awareness that this has gone on a lot longer than the four to six weeks we were promised.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, actually. Actually, Jenna Ellis, it was two to Three weeks, then it was four to six weeks, then it was two months. It's all been completely different to how it was sold to the American people and indeed to the world. Pete Hesev argued that the Pentagon was now running low on cash to keep this fight war going. He's asked the Senate Appropriations committee for nearly $67 billion more to continue the effort. Let's take a look at a clip. Mr. Axef, you're requesting roughly $68 billion for the department through the supplemental, correct? 67, yes. You said on day 14, Iran's military had been, quote, destroyed and, quote, made combat ineffective. Yes or no, Was that an accurate statement? What the American military has. The Iranian military is a historic military. Will you answer the question in that context? I mean, you know, they tangle themselves up in this because of all the false promises and pledges that simply haven't been met by reality and continue to be not met by reality. But honestly, Jenna, this idea that the American people, you know, after four months of this war that's supposed to last us a couple of weeks may be in the hook for what, $100 billion at a time when gas prices have never been high. I'm going to California at the end of this week and, you know, I'm told that gas prices are like twice as much as last time I was there in October. How does any of this make sense? And politically? Well, it's so, it's so damaging for the Republican chances in the midterm, surely.

[Jenna Ellis]

Well, you can blame Gavin Newsom for that. I live in Florida where our gas prices are actually okay, thanks to Governor DeSantis. But I would much rather the Senate appropriate money to go to keeping Iran away from nuclear capabilities than funding Arab Sesame Street. I mean, this is exactly why Doge was so.

[Caroline Sunshine]

What evidence do you have?

[Jenna Ellis]

First RETOOK office. Hold on. Let me claim. What evidence do you have? Let me, let me.

[Caroline Sunshine]

What evidence do you have?

[Jenna Ellis]

I would rather, I would rather have pursuing.

[Caroline Sunshine]

What's the evidence of that?

[Jenna Ellis]

The point of, the point of this mission overall, from the beginning that was deeply popular, was to prevent Iran from getting nuclear capabilities. And that comes directly from the Department of War. And so while.

[Piers Morgan]

How does that square with the President of the United States a year ago at the end of the 12 Day War, announcing to the world that the Iranian nuclear program had been put back his words, decades. It turned out it wasn't even eight months. And they suddenly were supposed to believe the Iranians were about to attack with a nuclear weapon within days, weeks. That's why there was this urgent sense of a need to attack. None of that makes sense. How can it go from being put back decades with this incredibly successful 12 day war and then within eight months, we have to launch a fully fledged war?

[Jenna Ellis]

Well, I don't think it's a fully fledged war, but I think that intelligence can change.

[Piers Morgan]

What would you call it?

[Jenna Ellis]

I think he's right to call it a conflict. And the longer that it continues, it's a war, the more that Americans. But we've also been told it's been

[Caroline Sunshine]

going on for 47 years. It's a 47 year war. So how many times have I heard

[Jenna Ellis]

that intelligence can change is the fact that the, that the Secretary of War said that the intelligence changed and that, and we have no evidence to the contrary to disbelieve that the Department of War thought that there was a national security threat. And when our government.

[Caroline Sunshine]

I'm just curious, what have you, have

[Jenna Ellis]

you looked at everything, have you looked at everything that the Pentagon missing? Were you sitting in this situation?

[Piers Morgan]

Iran don't talk over each other because we can't actually hear either of you do that.

[Jenna Ellis]

No, the. So. So the point, though is that while we can debate the ongoing conflict or war, whatever you want to call it, yes, Congress hasn't specifically declared war.

[Caroline Sunshine]

But you're right.

[Jenna Ellis]

Years of the history of the American history of this. I don't think that actually the president needs to have congressional approval at this point for it, but we can debate those ongoing issues. But the fact that this is still a matter of national security, the fact that this appropriation continues, it may, to your point, affect the midterms unless the White House can message this. But I disagree with Caroline in this respect. I don't think that President Trump actually wants to be a wartime president. He wants to be the peace president. What he actually thought he could do was to go in to the Iranian government and actually negotiate this memorandum of understanding. That clearly didn't happen because Iran calls the United States the Great Satan. I don't think that that. And that one particular point, I disagree with the administration that that was ever a possibility.

[Piers Morgan]

So, Jenna, out of interest, out of interest, if the sole mission statement and the mission statement has changed dramatically in the last few months. But let's assume for a moment's sake that Donald Trump's, you know, when he says it was all about the nuclear capabilities, stopping them having a bomb, okay, as far as I last checked, the Iranians still have every single piece of their enriched uranium, all of it, none of it's. Been secured. So what does victory look like to you? If they maintain the enriched uranium, they keep it. If they maintain control of the Strait of Hormuz, if the Ayatollah who was killed has been replaced by his son, who's even more hardline, if the IRGC remain in a tight grip on their country, which is why no one's been rising up to protest, if all those things are still in place when the United States pulls out of this, would you say that the war, the conflict, whatever you want to call it, has been a spectacular failure? Because I'll play this tape when that moment happens.

[Anna Kasparian]

Right.

[Jenna Ellis]

And so. And I have long been an advocate of saying that the initial conflict and going in to ensure that Iran does not have nuclear capabilities is a matter of national security. And again, if we can, we can continue to debate whether the ongoing conflict is. Is appropriate. And I'm not sure that it is. I have been asking that same question.

[Piers Morgan]

So in answer to my question, if

[Jenna Ellis]

it ends, what is the objective?

[Piers Morgan]

Right. But if it ends with the Iranians keep all the enriched uranium and their regime in place and the Ayatollah simply replaced by his more hardline son, and there are no protests and they have control of the Strait of Hormuz, would you accept it's been a terrible failure?

[Jenna Ellis]

I would not say that that would be the appropriate conclusion, which is probably why we are still engaged in this conflict, to ensure that we don't leave Iran in that situation. But the entire point here of there's been an assumption on this panel going back to Netanyahu that he is actually guilty of war crime and that he needs to face justice and accountability.

[Lauren Boebert]

For what?

[Jenna Ellis]

For defending his national.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, you know, there's one way. You know the reason, you know the reason I think he might be just

[Jenna Ellis]

a little hunch on your anti Semitism is disgusting.

[Piers Morgan]

So anti Semitism is disgusting. Yeah.

[Anna Kasparian]

Right, right.

[Piers Morgan]

But criticizing. Criticizing Netanyahu.

[Anna Kasparian]

She called me an anti Semite, by the way.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, criticizing Netanyahu's gun.

[Anna Kasparian]

You think I'm an anti Semite, Pierce?

[Piers Morgan]

No, I don't. No.

[Anna Kasparian]

Oh. Oh. Because I'm criticizing someone who's responsible for the mass slaughter of innocent assum. I don't know if you really want to perpetuate that message. That's not a great message. You're literally marketing that antisemitism is a good thing.

[Piers Morgan]

You know the one way to resolve

[Anna Kasparian]

this, that you're an anti Semite for criticizing someone who's carrying out mass slaughter.

[Piers Morgan]

Yeah, I think the whole I think the whole. Honestly, Jenna.

[Danny Danon]

The whole.

[Piers Morgan]

Jenna. The whole shtick of accusing.

[Anna Kasparian]

I'm just assuming.

[Piers Morgan]

Hang on, hang on, hang on. The whole shtick, honestly, of accusing people who criticize Netanyahu's government of doing bad things. If you do, you're anti Semitic. Is bullshit. And I'm kind of done with that. But what I'm also done with is that Netanyahu is still preventing any members of the foreign media, international media, international press from going into Gaza, despite this supposed ceasefire now being in place for many months. There is no reason other to me than he doesn't want the world to see what they've done in Gaza. If you want to exonerate yourself from the charge of committing war crimes in Gaza, let's keep it to Gaza for now. Then let the international media in to do their jobs freely, not embedded with the idf. Because there's a ceasefire shouldn't be any risk to journalists. Let them do their job, and then we can all decide based on their reporting whether there's been war crimes. And the reason. The reason Netanyahu won't. The reason Netanyahu won't let it happen. The reason Netanyahu won't let people in.

[Anna Kasparian]

Do you think it should be unbiased?

[Piers Morgan]

Is because I believe war crimes have been committed and that is what will eventually be uncovered. We shall see. But what other reason could there possibly be for not letting the media in?

[Jenna Ellis]

But the assumption because they are biased and the assumption that somehow is situated differently than any other country across the world who can defend themselves? Even all of us sitting here saying America first is actually a good thing. Like what Caroline Sunshine said. Well, what about Israel defending its own sovereignty? And that's why I say it is anti Semitic to somehow suggest Israel is a very successful nation, very successful. Subjugating the Israelis.

[Piers Morgan]

Okay, listen, we run out of time. Final words to Caroline on that point.

[Caroline Sunshine]

Well, Israel has an absolute right to defend itself. But if those goals don't align with the goals of the American people and the American government, the American people are not obligated to subsidize those goals. Israel absolutely has a right to defend itself. We do not. We are not obligated with its own money. That right to defend it. Exactly.

[Piers Morgan]

Okay, we're going to leave it there. Thank you all very much indeed. I appreciate it.

[Jenna Ellis]

That's why elections matter.

[Caroline Sunshine]

Thank you.

[Piers Morgan]

They certainly do. And some big ones coming up, but thank you all very much. Well, someone who will have a say on whether Pete Hegseth's plea for more money for the war is successful or not is Republican Congresswoman for Colorado, Lauren Boebert. Welcome back to Uncensored Pierce.

[Lauren Boebert]

Thanks so much for having me.

[Piers Morgan]

Again, Pete Hexteth wants $67 billion more to add to the $37 billion so far spent on this non war in Iran. Your reaction to that?

[Caroline Sunshine]

Yes.

[Lauren Boebert]

Well, actually the number is much greater than that. Pete Hegseth doesn't just want 67 billion. He wants 350 billion as soon as possible and a total of 1.5 trillion. So this is actually a much larger price tag. But this is overall for our military capabilities to remain the largest military power in the world so we can have peace through strength. I'm not one of the members who is propping up the war that is going on in Iran. I also can trust our military, our military leaders and our president to do the right thing over there. But I certainly am of the mind that I want this to come to an end. I did not vote for new wars, more wars, never ending wars. And I want this resolved as quickly as possible of what happened in Venezuela or even earlier last year in Iran with Operation Midnight Hammer. And I was hoping we could just solve things with quick in and out combative measures like that rather than weeks and months of actual war. But right now we are coming up on the vote for the National Defense Authorization act. And this is something that may not even have the votes to pass. We did have a procedural vote on the rule that allowed the NDAA and other bills to come to the floor. Last night we offered amendments to the ndaa. And there are still members who have issues. I have an issue with section 219. And this is the very controversial issue of merging or what is being perceived as merging our military with Israel's military. This is something that I believe the Senate has already removed from the ndaa. So it's not a vote that we should even be taking here in the House. And now leadership is promising that this section 219 will be removed when the bill is conferenced between the House and the Senate before it is sent to the President.

[Piers Morgan]

I noticed that you repeatedly said that you have months of war. But of course, the President and the administration do not, not categorize what's been going on as war. They call it conflict because if it was a war, they'd have to get congressional approval, which they don't have. So are you now telling us that it is a war?

[Lauren Boebert]

I believe that this is a war. I believe that it has been categorized as a war. I was Also it hasn't.

[Piers Morgan]

Otherwise it would need.

[Lauren Boebert]

No, no, I understand.

[Piers Morgan]

Yeah, but Lauren, Lauren, if it was a war and they're very careful not to call it once. Well, it's interesting that you have. They would need congressional approval, which they don't have.

[Lauren Boebert]

So there is a 60 day grace period. And so I'm under the impression that the President has classified this as a new war and he has another 60 days before that grace period ends. So certainly there is a conflict. I don't believe that it is everyday war. I do believe that there are negotiations that are happening. But I would like to see an ultimate end. I know that our people have done tremendous jobs at working with Iran and Israel to bring this to an end. Even Vice President JD Vance has been out talking about the negotiations that he was involved in, expressing his frustrations.

[Piers Morgan]

It's all been a complete, it's all been a complete disaster, hasn't it?

[Caroline Sunshine]

Let's be honest.

[Lauren Boebert]

I don't disagree. I don't love it. I am here for the America first agenda. I'm not being critical of the President, but I am being critical of sending out of interest.

[Piers Morgan]

Why wouldn't you be critical of the President? It was his idea. He ordered the troops in, he ordered the strikes. I mean, why wouldn't you be?

[Lauren Boebert]

And I'm not okay with that. But also I'm going to allow the President, who likely has more information than I do on this issue, to do what he's doing. I do not want to see more of our service members harmed or killed. They're going to be to lose their lives. And I would love for this to come to an end. Again. We're voting on the NDAA this week and hopefully that brings some sort of a resolve and not just funds more of this conflict or more.

[Piers Morgan]

Okay, let's switch gears. Let's talk about the New York Mayor Zoram Mandani's call for Benjamin Netanyahu to be arrested for war crimes. What is your view of that?

[Lauren Boebert]

Well, the Mayor of New York City needs to work on New York City. Socialist Mayor Mandani is actually doing his best to flip our entire nation into a socialist nation. You have Democrat socialists who are now winning congressional elections. Three who won in New York, as you know, one who took out a 30 year incumbent in Denver, Colorado and is coming in to usher in this.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, what's that got to do with Netanyahu?

[Lauren Boebert]

Well, I'm saying that this is his ultimate agenda and him talking about Benjamin Netanyahu, someone he's clearly not A fan of. He made that clear on the campaign trail. He's going to say other things to make a splash and distract from his failing policies in the city of New York. While New York is soon to go bankrupt, I can almost guarantee you that with his policies and the crime, of course, that is there, but he needs to focus on New York and not other countries and other leaders. Again, I. I'm not here to give praise to Benjamin Netanyahu or any of the conflicts that are going on. I was critical of Zelensky in Ukraine over the years and still am. And these aren't my leaders. These aren't the people that I voted for. And I would love to get to a place of putting our country first.

[Piers Morgan]

Just finally. The Tate brothers, Andrew and Tristan Tate, were arrested in the United States in the last few days, and the UK has asked for them to be extradited back to the UK to face a number of very serious charges involving all sorts of sexual crime. There's been a debate raging on the conservative right in America as to whether they should be extradited or whether the Trump administration should intervene because people on the right believe this may be politically motivated. What is your view?

[Lauren Boebert]

Well, I'm not versed on the extradition laws there. I have heard the Tate brothers case. I know that they had been raided multiple times. I know that they have been released, and I don't know the details. I don't follow them that closely. However, I will say that I have been one of the few members of Congress who has been loud and vocal and actually took action to expose those who are guilty of sex crimes. I was one of four Republicans to release, force the release of the Epstein files. There are congressional slush funds that I voted numerous times to release to the public so the American people can see these sexual deviants and the sexual inappropriateness that goes on within the halls of Congress and elsewhere that has been covered up. So if they are guilty of sex crimes, absolutely charge them to the fullest. I don't know their case well enough to speak to that. I'm not here to be the bedroom police. I was here to get more water storage in Colorado, protect our farmers and ranchers, and develop more of our good, clean, reliable energy from the Rocky Mountains. And now here we are talking about all the creeps in America and elsewhere. And I would really love to get back to a place of actually legislating and serving the people that elected me to do so.

[Piers Morgan]

Lauren Bobert, always good to have you on sense of. Thank you very much.

[Lauren Boebert]

Thanks Pierce.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, for more on New York Mayor Zoran Mandani's threat to Benjamin Netanyahu, we're joined by Israeli Ambassador to the United Nations, Danny Danone. Danny, welcome back to Uncensored.

[Danny Danon]

Thank you for having me, Pierce.

[Piers Morgan]

So the mayor of New York City couldn't be clearer. He believes that Benjamin Netanyahu is a war criminal, as he puts it, the architect of a horrific genocide against the Palestinian people. He wanted to be able to arrest him if he came to New York City. He's been told that that is outside the purview of the New York mayor's office to do that, but he's called on the federal government to join the ICC and execute. I want to be very clear. He says Netanyahu is not welcome in New York City, nor is any other war criminal at large. What is your reaction?

[Danny Danon]

With all due respect, Pierce, who cares about what the mayor of New York thinks? You know, you should take care of the garbage of New York. I don't know. You are in London, I'm in New York. It's horrible, the situation here. You should take care of the education in New York and not trying to play that he's the Minister of Foreign affairs or the president of the U.S. he's the mayor of New York, period. It's a stunt. You know, I think that Mehrmaidani should be arrested. He will not be arrested. I think he should because he supports terrorists. You should look at the way he actually spoke about Hamas terrorists. He said he was a journalist. A few days ago, he sent his commissioner to meet with the Iranian ambassador to the un. At the same time were the American soldiers fighting this evil regime. So, you know, he can say whatever he wants, but the U.S. you have the rule of law, and according to the rule of law, the US Is not part of the icc. That's why Prime Minister Netanyahu will come to the us Will speak at the un, will address the General Assembly. It's a political stunt in order to distract from the main problems of the city. And it's not the first time you see politicians using Israel as a distraction. That's what he's trying to do.

[Piers Morgan]

You think he's anti Semitic, the New York mayor?

[Danny Danon]

Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, I don't know if you can show it to the audience, but, you know, a few weeks ago, he spoke about Jewish organizations, and he called them monsters. Monster that used black money. You know, that language of a male. You know, when you elect a mayor, you want him to make sure that he's actually making the lives better for the people of his city.

[Piers Morgan]

Including, how is it. Including the country. How is it, Mr. Ambassador? How is it if he is so anti Semitic in your estimation, and he would absolutely, of course, deny that, but if he is, why is it that one of the reasons Mandani got elected was that so many younger Jewish people in New York, which has more Jews living in the city than any city outside of Tel Aviv in the world, that they race to vote for this guy? Why would Jewish people vote for a guy who you think is anti Semitic?

[Nancy Mace]

Take.

[Danny Danon]

Because most of the people who voted for him, they didn't vote for him because of his opinions about the Middle east, about Hamas, about Iran. They voted for him because he promised them a better life, affordable housing. He promised free buses, a cleaner city. That didn't happen. So those issues for him, it's about time to deal with the promises he gave to the public that voted for him. That matters are Muslim Jews or Christians and not deal with foreign affairs. You know, but you see, you see the videos he put out. I think for him it's more interesting to speak about Netanyahu and Hamas and Iran rather than to speak about the buses and the problem of the city.

[Piers Morgan]

Earlier I spoke to Republican Congresswoman Nancy Mace. She said that the Jews that voted for Mamdani in New York were self loathing. Would you agree with that?

[Danny Danon]

You know, I respect the democracy. You know, Israel is a strong democracy. One of the reasons we are so close to the American people, because we have the real democracy. So I respect, you know, he won the elections, Meo Mamdani, he got the overwhelming majority because he was a stronger candidate. He had a great campaign.

[Piers Morgan]

But what about the point? Any Jews who voted for him are self loathing. Would you agree with that?

[Danny Danon]

I don't want to give points or grades to people who voted for him. I think they have to look at his actions and the expectations are not met. And I think people are disappointed. Not only the Judah voted for him, but the people in New York because they see him dealing with issues he shouldn't be dealing with and talking about the un. You have an agreement between the US and the UN that basically anyone is allowed to come to the un. And you know, if you look at the history of the un, you know, leaders who were dictators came to the UN to speak. Ahmadinejad spoke here, Mohammad Kadati spoke here, Arafat spoke here. So all of a sudden the mayor thinks he will start to decide who will come to the UN or not. It's not going to happen. You know, he knows it, but I'm sure I can tell you for sure that he will continue to speak about Netanyahu until he will leave back to Israel after his speech, because which, out

[Piers Morgan]

of interest, which, given the abuse which has come the UN's way from many Israelis and members of the government and from American administrators and politicians, and given the same to the icc, which international jurisdiction in terms of law does Israel respect and would listen to? I mean, who do you listen to other than yourselves? Anyone?

[Danny Danon]

Absolutely. You know, we are a member of the un, and it's not only Israel that is not respecting the icc, also the US and other countries. And, you know, on Friday, we're going to have a discussion at the UN in the General assembly about Karim Khan, the prosecutor who actually charged Netanyahu. And, you know, we're not going to speak about what he said about Israel or the IDF or Netanyahu. We will speak about sexual allegations of this same prosecutor. So it's not a real court. It is a show. They care about publicity. We will continue to work with the un. We will participate in the debates in the un. But like the us, we are not taking part in a court which is a theater.

[Piers Morgan]

Okay. Are you 100% certain that Benjamin Netanyahu has ordered no war crimes?

[Danny Danon]

Absolutely. I can tell you that because I was there. I was there in Israel. I was a member of the Parliament. I participated in many meetings. And I can tell you that no one can blame Israel for committing war crimes. On the contrary, we lost the lives of hundreds of young Israelis because we tried to minimize civilian casualties. The war took us for so long. You know, you look at the pace of the war because we wanted to minimize civilian casualties. So the last thing somebody can blame us is for committing war crimes. But, you know, that's part of the anti. Semitism. You know, it's legitimate to criticize Israel, but you have to apply the same standards when you criticize Israel and you

[Piers Morgan]

criticize other countries, if I can remind you, right? But Israel lost 1200 people, people on October 7th in an absolutely horrific terror attack. But it's believed that Israel's response has been to kill 73,000 Palestinians and to kill nearly 4,000 people in Lebanon now as well. No one can quite tell us exactly what the split of terrorist combatant to civilian is. But a huge number of civilians are known to have been killed in this. And what people say is that, yeah, Israel keeps saying we don't target civilians, but by targeting your alleged terrorists, people you believe who've committed acts of terror against you or want to, you are killing a vast amount of civilians. And that is one of the reasons why Mamdani said what he said and why Israel's popularity has been plummeting.

[Danny Danon]

Well, you know, I think we had this debate in the past, you know, about the numbers. You know, we don't think we can actually agree about the numbers. But you can agree about the intentions and the intention of the Israeli government and the Israeli military was not and will never be to arm civilians. We take precautions. We ask the population to move to another area. We send them text messages. We give them weeks to move to safer places where they can meet humanitarian aid. So if someone is doing all of those actions, it's not about committing a war crime. It is about defeating terror.

[Piers Morgan]

If you've done nothing wrong, if you've done nothing wrong in Gaza, why is there still a ban on international media going in there freely to do their job, given there is a supposed ceasefire?

[Danny Danon]

Well, first, you know, reporters do go into Gaza.

[Piers Morgan]

Not freely, they don't operate freely. They go in with the IDF embedded. So it's controlled. So there is an ongoing ban on all international media operating freely in Gaza. Why?

[Danny Danon]

Well, we discussed that in the past. I told you that we care about the safety of the journalists. I know. You will tell me now. You know you shouldn't care. We take their own responsibility. But you know what?

[Piers Morgan]

It's not your job to worry about their security. And also, you've managed to kill over 200 Palestinian journalists. I don't think the welfare of journalists has been uppermost in. In the minds of this Israeli government, with all due respect.

[Danny Danon]

Well, I beg to differ with you. I don't think that most of those people were journalists.

[Piers Morgan]

How many were journalists? How many were not journalists?

[Danny Danon]

Many of them were supported.

[Piers Morgan]

How many out of the 200 members? I think it's 220. Odd. How many of those were actual journalists and how many were terrorists in your eyes?

[Danny Danon]

No, we did it in the past. We cannot go into the numbers, but

[Piers Morgan]

do you know the answer or no?

[Danny Danon]

Mailman Danny a few weeks ago spoke about one of them and he said that he mourned the death of a journalist.

[Piers Morgan]

No, no, but how many of the 220 or so. How many of the 220 or so journalists have been killed?

[Danny Danon]

A record number of journalists, and we saw the people. Mr.

[Piers Morgan]

Ambassador, with respect, a record number of journalists have been killed in Gaza by your forces. How many do you believe, of the 220 plus who've been killed were actual journalists and how many were terrorists?

[Danny Danon]

I believe that most of them were active Hamas members, participated. Some of them actually entered Israel on October 7th. So, you know, when I see the picture of someone entering our communities on October 7th to take pictures on a motorcycle with a Hamas terrorist, I don't consider them a journalist. He's a terrorist first.

[Piers Morgan]

So why don't you let the media in and they can find out the truth about all of these stories?

[Danny Danon]

Well, as I told you, we allow media in, but we coordinate that. And I think today when you look, there is no limit of information. You have people in Gaza taking pictures,

[Piers Morgan]

and actually, why don't you just let the light like you would in any other case where there's a ceasefire? Why wouldn't you? What are you hiding?

[Danny Danon]

Because it is not safe. And at the end of the day, Israel will be blamed if something will happen to those journalists.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, Israel will be blamed if it turns out they've committed war crimes. And the only way to find that out, actually, is if it's investigated properly by the media in a free way. But at the moment, you refuse to let them do that. And that, I'm afraid, becomes increasingly suspicious and in my eyes, increasingly damning. If there's nothing to hide, let the journalists in to do their job and let the world find out.

[Danny Danon]

Let me give you an offer, please. Maybe you want to come to Israel, see the humanitarian aid that is going into Gaza every day, you know, hundreds of trucks, and you are welcome to come and see part of it.

[Piers Morgan]

No, what I'd like is I'd like the world's top independent journalists who work for reputable organizations, be it Associated Press, Reuters, cnn, BBC, whoever it may be, establish war correspondence. Let them in, all of them, to do their job freely on the ground and work out whether your claim that there have been no war crimes committed is true. And the longer the Israel, the longer the Israeli government refuses to allow them in to do their job, the suspicion will grow that it's because you've committed war crimes. And that's the reality.

[Danny Danon]

Bill, that's ridiculous, what you are saying now.

[Piers Morgan]

Not really, no. It's actually very common. Sensitive.

[Danny Danon]

No one is blaming Israel for committing war crimes today. No one. No one. Because there's no war in Gaza today. You have a ceasefire and you have eight countries.

[Piers Morgan]

How many people have been killed in Gaza since the start of the ceasefire?

[Danny Danon]

The UN put a statement last week that it is Hamas which is not fulfilling the Board of Peace Decisions, not Israel. So nobody's blaming us for a war crime today. You know, the lies about the genocide and war crimes were when we were actually fighting in Gaza against Hamas.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, I've got to say, a lot of people are dying in Gaza, given there's a supposedly a ceasefire. Anyway, look, we've run out of time. Ambassador, I always appreciate you coming on Uncensored. Thank you very much.

[Danny Danon]

Thank you.

[Piers Morgan]

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