Piers Morgan Uncensored

Episode: “Ms. Rachel Is a National Treasure! Antisemite Of The Year Debate”

Date: December 4, 2025
Host: Piers Morgan
Guests: Ana Kasparian (The Young Turks), Jake Donnelly (“Red, White and Blue Jew”), Hen Mazi (Israeli influencer), Guy Christiansen (TikTok pro-Palestinian influencer), Ms. Rachel (children’s YouTuber, via clips/statements)

Overview

This heated episode delves into the controversy surrounding the “Antisemite of the Year” list released by Stop Antisemitism, with a particular focus on children’s entertainer Ms. Rachel, her platforming of pro-Palestinian content, and the expanding definition of antisemitism in public discourse. Piers Morgan moderates a panel representing various viewpoints to debate the line between legitimate criticism and hate, the weaponization of antisemitism accusations, and the consequences of powerful public platforms taking political stances amid the Israel-Gaza war.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The “Antisemite of the Year” List: Moving Goalposts

• Context:
  • Originally designed to highlight overt antisemitism, the list now includes figures simply critical of Israel, including Ms. Rachel, Ana Kasparian, and Tucker Carlson.
  • Morgan frames the debate: "Most people now see that anti Semitism has no operational meaning beyond one who criticizes Israel." (Piers Morgan quoting Glenn Greenwald, [02:45])
• Ana Kasparian:
  • Calls the list "a list that contains individuals who are sometimes very aggressively critical of a foreign country... that's currently engaging in multiple wars in an effort to annex more land... that's Israel." ([03:30])
  • Asserts inclusion won’t silence her: "Putting me on lists is not going to dissuade me from speaking the truth." ([03:29])
• Piers Morgan:
  • Raises the expanding use of "antisemitism" as a means to silence critics: "It's just been used as a stick to censor people... that’s abhorrent." ([12:15])

2. Ms. Rachel’s Controversy: Empathy, Platforming, and Propaganda

• Ms. Rachel:
  • Criticized for highlighting Palestinian child victims while (allegedly) downplaying Israeli victims.
  • Notable platform moment: Featuring Gazan child amputee and collaborating with Motaz Azaza, accused of glorifying Hamas.
  • Her Instagram statement: "I'm against antisemitism and all forms of hate and racism. I'm incredibly proud of my work to help Palestinian children." ([13:37])
• Jake Donnelly:
  • Main charge: "What makes her anti Semitic is her relationship with Motaz Azaza. If you're going to be a children's entertainer, you shouldn't have somebody on your show who glorifies the murder of 38 Israeli children." ([05:02])
  • Criticizes her for "selective empathy" and "political game."
• Piers Morgan:
  • Questions the fairness of the criteria: "Should we then apply the same criteria to any pro-Israeli commentator who's shown selective empathy towards Israeli children but never addressed the plight of Palestinian children?" ([06:12])

3. Selective Empathy & Double Standards

• Panelists grapple with:
  • The meaning of empathy in activism – does caring more for one set of victims imply bigotry?
  • The impact of platforming divisive or controversial guests, especially for a children's audience.
• Ana Kasparian:
  • Pushes back: "The days of Zionists bullying Americans into silence is over. Put that in your pipe." ([17:38])
  • Admits potential double standard: "Would I feel differently if a children's entertainer was overtly pro-Israeli? Probably." ([21:54])
• Hen Mazi:
  • Argues statements from Anna and others contribute to real-world risks for Jews: "Instead of listening and trying to change your ways, you're doubling down... your words have contributed to an atmosphere that gets our people killed outside our synagogues." ([09:30])
  • On Ms. Rachel: “She’s really misguided... When she hosted Muatez Aziza, that celebrated Hamas... played directly into a medieval blood libel.” ([12:57])

4. Weaponizing Antisemitism – Where’s the line?

• Piers Morgan:
  • Gives personal example of being branded antisemitic for criticizing Israeli government, not Jews or Israel’s existence: "I do believe it’s something that’s been thrown around way too much... to shut people up from criticizing anything that Israel’s doing." ([12:15])
• Hen Mazi:
  • Acknowledges overuse but insists on difference between criticism and statements that jeopardize lives: "Some people use antisemitism too widely... but that doesn't take away from the severity of people making statements that end up... being used to shoot Jews outside of our Holocaust Museum in D.C." ([12:22])
• Ana Kasparian:
  • Distinguishes identity from ideology: "This is about an ideology, not about an identity, a heritage, a religion, or an ethnicity." ([18:28])
  • Calls out "weaponizing antisemitism for Israel's purposes" as "so disgusting." ([18:39])

5. Guy Christiansen: Defending Political Murder

• Segment Overview:

  • Christiansen defends the killing of two Israeli embassy employees in D.C. as “resistance,” refuses to call it terrorism, despite conceding it was “politically motivated murder.”
  • Piers Morgan repeatedly presses the definition:
    • "You accept he was murdering for political reasons?" ([27:10])
    • "That’s a terrorist. That’s literally the definition of a terrorist." ([27:18])
    • Christiansen: "No, he’s not a terrorist, he’s a resistance fighter." ([27:01], [28:10])
  • Refuses to condemn the murders:
    • "I do not condemn it." ([33:12])

• Panel Reaction:

  • Jake Donnelly: "If anybody on my side performed that poorly, I would ask them to get off social media, never be a voice for my side ever again." ([33:33])
  • Ana Kasparian: "No one should refer to that as freedom fighting, period." ([37:25])

6. Empathy, Loss, and Humanity

• Hen Mazi:
  • Refuses to engage in "body counting": "Every child that is killed is horrible... Israelis and Palestinians deserve peace and coexistence and humanity." ([23:48])
• Ana Kasparian:
  • Shares a personal story about Armenian genocide, emphasizing learning empathy and not generalizing hate. "You have to judge people as individuals. If you don’t do that, then you are guilty of the same hate... that the current Israeli government is engaging in." ([35:06])

7. Final Thoughts – Defining Real Antisemitism

• Piers Morgan:
  • Draws the distinction between criticism and hate: "Anti-Semites don’t hide it... They’re quite happy to be anti-Semitic." ([34:41])
  • Points specifically to Holocaust denial by Stu Peters as clear, legitimate antisemitism deserving condemnation: "That is antisemitism." ([37:28])
• Ana Kasparian:
  • Emphasizes her principles against hate on all sides: "I refuse to let people win and turn me into a hateful, disgusting bigot... I’m always going to speak out against injustice, including... embassy workers getting shot down in cold blood." ([36:15])

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If you’re going to be a children’s entertainer, you shouldn’t have somebody on your show who glorifies the murder of 38 Israeli children.”
  — Jake Donnelly ([05:02])

• “Putting me on lists is not going to dissuade me from speaking the truth.”
  — Ana Kasparian ([03:29])

• “It's just been used as a stick to censor people... that’s abhorrent.”
  — Piers Morgan ([12:15])

• “The days of Zionists bullying Americans into silence is over. Put that in your pipe.”
  — Ana Kasparian ([17:38])

• “Some people use antisemitism too widely... but that doesn't take away from the severity of people making statements that end up... being used to shoot Jews outside of our Holocaust Museum in D.C.”
  — Hen Mazi ([12:22])

• “That is not who I am. I know who I am in my heart, and I'm always going to speak out against injustice, including... embassy workers getting shot down in cold blood.”
  — Ana Kasparian ([36:15])

• “Terrorism is terrorism. Wherever it happens, whatever the reason, it’s terrorism.”
  — Piers Morgan ([30:45])

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Opening & Ms. Rachel Context: 00:00 – 03:29
• Panel Introductions & Initial Positions: 03:29 – 05:02
• Accusations Against Ms. Rachel: 05:02 – 06:40
• Empathy & Double Standards Debate: 06:40 – 12:03
• Weaponization of “Antisemitism” Label: 12:03 – 14:15
• Ms. Rachel Responds/Public Statement: 13:37 – 15:27
• Should Children’s Entertainers Be Political?: 17:11 – 19:33
• Panel on Double Standards (Is criticism fair on both “sides”?): 21:07 – 23:48
• Guy Christiansen Confronted on Terrorism: 24:21 – 33:13
• Panel Reflection, Defining Antisemitism: 33:15 – 38:10

Summary

The debate exposes the challenges faced when influential public figures speak out about contentious issues like the Israel-Gaza war. Blurred lines between legitimate criticism of a government and hate directed at a people or religion are at the heart of the conversation. While some panelists express concern about the consequences of “selective empathy” and the power of statements in fueling hate, others push back against the tactic of labeling all criticism as antisemitism, arguing it chills necessary debate and advocacy.

Ms. Rachel’s case is a flashpoint for this conflict: is hers an example of one-sided activism, or is she unjustly maligned for advocating for children in crisis? Throughout, the panel and Morgan wrestle with the possibility of double standards, the dangers of rhetorical escalation, and the real human consequences of online and on-air debate.

Ultimately, the episode underscores the need for precision in defining hatred, accountability for actual harm, and empathy for all innocent victims of conflict, whatever "side" they are born on.