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Okay, let's lighten the load. Variety magazine's best comedies of all time. Who is funnier? American comedy or British comedy?
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Oh, British comedy 100%.
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Ooh.
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Characters are fighting with Chevy Chase, Jim Carrey, John Belushi.
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I'm really incensed that the Cornetto trilogy wasn't there. Like we could have had Shaun of the Dead, we could have had Hot Fuzz. We could have had the World's End.
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I would disagree with that.
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Trust me Anastasia, even you would crack a smile.
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Tropic Thunder is perfect.
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Possibly the last balls out comedy to have been made.
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Dr. Anastasia, what's your favorite comedy?
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Not my genre of choice.
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You don't find things fun?
F
Well, last time Ferris, you told me I'm not fun at parties, so I'm really matching my grade.
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Well, you just proved the point. If you can't think of a single comedy movie you like, what I mean about the Woke Brigade? Where's the laughter? Where's the fun?
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I'm having fun.
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Pierre.
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Pierre, as this has been truly a pleasure.
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If you've been arguing about politics at the Thanksgiving dinner table this week, I've excellent, excellent news for this show. We're going to argue about everything other than politics. Has Wicked lifted Hollywood's box office curse? And more importantly, could his stars be the first non demi curious semi binary couple ever to win an Oscar? Time magazine prepares to name its person of the Year. Who should win the World's strongest woman contest is won by a man. Should we have a problem with that or are we all just bigots? And does Variety's list of 100 best comedies of all time prove that Woke up really is dead, as my new book is titled. Joining me to discuss all that and more, Will Jordan, best known as YouTube's leading movie critic. The critical drinker Gary Nedrodic Buchler, who's the host of Friday Night Tights, Jillian Michaels, host of Keeping it real. And Dr. Anastasia Gabriel, who's the cultural commentator. Plus a man who's been in the headlines for a legal victory this week, the comedy Writer Graham Linehan is with me in the studio, too. Welcome back to you, Graham, to Uncensored. So welcome to all of you. We'll start with something which will definitely be, I'm sure something Graham will have a view about. This is the most extraordinary story of our time, really, in the way that it perfectly personified. I think one of the big problems with the woke sort of scourge on our society, as I would put it. A transgender athlete called Jammie Booker won the world's Strongest woman title several days ago and celebrated big picture celebrating on the podium. And then there was an interesting exchange with the camera and the woman who came second, who was really pissed off about this and stomped off. And he looked rather graceless, right to the point it emerged that Jammy Booker is a biological male. He's a man. And that was why Jammie Booker looks so much bigger than the female contestants and why Jamie Booker won the title of the world's Strongest Woman. But Gillia Michaels, right here in this story, once it emerged that Jammie Booker was male, the organizers stripped Jamie Booker of the title and said they weren't aware that Jamie Booker identified as a trans athlete at all. They thought that she was a woman. What do you make of this? I mean, it seemed to me the fight back, this is why I say woke is dead. That the public reaction was so quick and so ferocious and the official reaction was so quick to correct this, that this is why I believe wokeism is actually dead. Not everyone's got the memo yet, but the public tolerance of it is disintegrating.
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Listen, I'm glad to see that Jammy was stripped of the title and it was given to a biological female because I think fairness in sports is essential. It is the pillar of sports, along with safety and then inclusion. And often in many of these different categories, there are mixed categories for people like Jammy. Now, having said that, I completely disagree with you about Woke being dead. Pierce, I'm seeing craziness abound everywhere. And in fact, I think it was in the Carolinas regarding powerlifting. The Supreme Court just penalized the United States Powerlifting association for not allowing biological males into sport with biological females despite having a mixed category. So I think every step in the right direction is great here, but I don't think we're there yet at all.
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Okay, Dr. Anastasia, Gabriel, what do you make of this?
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Well, I would push back on the idea that woke is dead and everything is about perspective. What does actually woke mean to you? For some, it might meet craziness as A panelist said, for some, that might mean being more aware, more inclusive and more progressive and how we understand people who hold all kinds of differences. So to me, I'm not familiar with that particular case, so I will not comment on the decision. But what worries me the most is the kind of abuse and harassment that oftentimes emerges in these moments that actually affects people. Manipulations beyond that one particular winner and the kind of rhetoric that we, our society, are normalizing.
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Yeah, but the problem, it seems to me, is when a society endorses, often legally, this kind of thing, you are gonna piss off a lot of people. And the victims actually tend to be trans people who wanna just get on with their lives quietly, not bother anyone. You know, may have gone through years of surgery in some cases. Right. I've got full respect for those people. But when you. When you. As a. As a society, when you say it's perfectly normal for biological men to compete against women, I say society loses its mind. And so people, when they see this go. Which is obviously unfair, shouldn't be happening.
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Well, I would respectfully challenge you on the idea of normal. This is an incident that has happened out of how many other victories where that has not been the case.
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Why should it happen at all? If it was. If it was doping, it was doping.
F
We wouldn't live in a society where all sorts of things happen. And to me, this is an opportunity to discuss these issues, to talk about what's.
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Would you. Okay, but would you have. Okay. Would you have gender neutral Olympics?
F
I'm not sure that I would subscribe to that position.
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You're not sure?
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Let me finish, please.
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Would you allow men and women. Would you allow men and women to compete in one gender neutral category at the Olympics in all the different sports?
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Piers, it's lovely to be back. I would love to be able to finish my sentence.
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Sure.
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I would not necessarily argue for that position myself.
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Why not?
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However?
Because I do think that there are different athletic abilities.
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Ah. However. Bingo. Bingo. So you know it's unfair. That's my point. So you wouldn't allow it because you know. You know that men have a physical advantage.
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I cannot articulate my position in a rational manner.
No, you're cutting me off. Do not allow me to make my point. And if that's how it's going to be, I'll give the mic back to you.
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Is there more to your point than you. Than you realize it's wrong to put the sexes together?
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I am saying that society changes and notions like right or wrong are dependent on your perspective.
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So of course, not really. Not really. They're dependent on things called biology and science.
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In this case, well, there are myriads of very well established scholars, activists, professionals who might disagree with you. So who are you disagreeing?
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Not about this.
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Completely wrong. That's a part.
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Even you don't disagree. That's part of the debate, Anastasia. Even you don't know one.
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Right or wrong.
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Even you don't disagree with me. You just said you think it's right that these sexes are kept apart in the Olympics.
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I did not say. Please do not put words in my mouth. I said that it's a nuanced issue and I think there is.
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It's not nuanced. We separate the sexes.
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There are gray areas.
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Okay, let me ask you one more time. Let me ask you one more time.
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Okay.
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Why do we separate the sexes in the Olympics?
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At this point, I will not entertain your provocations.
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Got it? No problem at all.
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Thank you.
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Grand letter here.
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Can I answer it? Because there's a robust amount of data outside of what is observationally obvious, that men have superior athleticism across every single modality of fitness.
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Of course.
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And the reality is that when you mess around with fundamental truths like XY chromosome and XX chromosome, it is crippling to a society because we cannot solve problems when we can't agree on what's real and what isn't.
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It's okay to say, I want to.
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Bring in for these individuals, Anastasia, I'm afraid you can't. Anastasia, you can't. You can't refuse to comment on this anymore. A sexual individual and then start commenting on it again.
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That is science as well.
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That's not how this works. Graham. Welcome back to Uncensored. You got cleared yesterday of harassing a teenage trans activist, Sophie Brooks, on social media. You were convicted of damaging her phone. This came after she accused you. She was 17 at the time. Apparently you called her a sociopath, a psycho domestic terrorist and groomer on X. The judge said your social media post did not amount to harassment. First of all, how do you feel about what went down in the verdict there?
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You know, very good. I've been targeted by this group of men, most recently, including Sophie, for about 10 years now. So it's nice to draw more attention to them. I'm hoping that finally the police will start investigating these men who have been harassing not just me, but. But dozens of women across the country, getting them arrested, suing them. You know, these are basically a criminal gang and the UK police for some reason are working for them. And, you know, the police have gone from being terrified of being called institutionally racist to being institutionally misogynist. You know, and.
It'S annoying that I had to go through all this, but I'm glad it's bringing more attention to.
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You've been having a lot of wins, actually, in the last few months. It seems like common sense is beginning to prevail. I mean, the one thing that people say about you, which I think as a, I can understand why they feel it, it's not the campaign you've waged or the logic of your argument, it's sometimes the rhetoric you've used. When you look back over the last few years, notwithstanding the fact you yourself have been on the receiving end of vicious, horrible rhetoric. But if you had your time again, would you tone down the rhetoric?
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Well, the thing about the rhetoric is it has to be understood in the light of the fact that, and as I say, I've been targeted by these men for 10 years. For a decade. I lost my father Ted musical because my colleagues wouldn't stand up for me in the face of this harassment. And I lost my marriage, as people know, because I lost my ability to make an income. So our family was put under pressure. So if ever I'm rude or angry or express myself forcefully, it's simply because I'm, I'm just disgusted by my colleagues who have watched me go through all this without a word of support. Arlo Hanlon recently threw me under the bus. He's never once called me to ask how I was doing. He's never once called to say he supports my campaigns against men and women's sports, against men and women's prisons.
Yes, if I do express Myself forcefully. It's simply because I'm very frustrated. The fact that people can't see what's.
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Evident when you hear a debate like this. When we start off with the world's strongest woman title being won by a biological male. There. Right there is one of the problems, right, Is that people just hate to hear women including someone on this panel kind of defending this kind of stuff. I just find it completely baffling.
G
And also they always say things like.
This is a unique occurrence. It's been happening again. This has been happening for about 10 years. Laurel Hubbard, the weightlifter in New Zealand.
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Weightlifter, 45 years old, nearly twice the age of any other contestant.
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Yeah.
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Very unsuccessful as a male weightlifter. Suddenly an Olympian contestant and beat two indigenous women.
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He now holds the women's record for weightlifting in New Zealand.
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It's ridiculous.
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It's insane.
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Okay, let's lighten the load. Let's turn to Variety magazine's best comedies of all time. So at number three, Annie Hall.
Ironic, given that Woody Allen's been pretty well the victim of a cancellation attempt as well. Some like it Hot, a film about the ridiculous idea of men pretending to be women. Irony is not dead here. And at number one, Naked Gun starring Leslie Nilsson, One of the most notoriously un PC comedies featuring the infamous nice beaver line. So again, further evidence chilling that woke is dead. Cause Naked Gun would never have been number one on this before. I gotta say, my favorite Nedrotic, let's start with you here. A. What do you think of the top three? I'm absolutely incensed about two things. One, that Anchorman is not in the top three. Which to me is not only the greatest anti woke movie ever made, but also howlingly funny. And secondly, the campaign with Will Ferrell isn't further up the list. It's apparently, I think, way down. Actually, I dug it. Even didn't even make the top 100. It's the biggest grossing political comedy ever made and I know that because I'm in it. So I feel I've been robbed. But Najradi, first of all, the top three Annie hall, some like your heart, make a gun good choices. Would you have had another one at number one?
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Absolutely. I would have had a lot more at number one. Anything, Monty Python, Holy Grail, I would have put up there. Airplane. I love Naked Gun, but it's a compilation of the TV show. It's kind of a really odd choice. And they use the word influential on this. But any list that doesn't have I've got 30 I could read off here. That doesn't have Tropic Thunder. Blues Brothers, Animal House, any Pink Panther movie. Uncle Buck, Ferris Bueller. It's a mad, mad, mad, Mad World Vacation. American Pie. Beverly Hills Cop 1 and 2, 48 hours.
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Beverly Hills. Not in the list.
C
No, no. Ghostbusters.
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Oh, that's completely outrageous. Beverly Hills.
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Yeah, but Tropic Thunder being off the list is absolutely ridiculous. And I would put that easily in the top.
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What should be the. What's the funniest. What's the funniest comedy ever made, in my opinion?
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Yeah, I would have to say Blazing Saddles.
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I'd love blazing saddles. Number 77, completely outrageous. Critical Drinker. What do you make of this list? It's obviously incendiary already.
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Yeah, I mean, look, it's always going to be contentious. Like, what is the greatest comedy of all time? Like, how do you even begin to pick them out? But, yeah, I'm not sure if I would put Naked Gun right at the top there. I'm really incensed that the Cornetto trilogy wasn't there. Like, we could have had Shaun of the Dead. We could have had Hot Fuzz. We could have had the World's End. They should be way up in the rankings. Yes.
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Where's Life O' Brien in that top 10? Yeah, Life O' Brien didn't make the top hundred. I mean, that's absolutely. That's actually. That's an offense. Well, we got a grant Linen. You made one of the great comedies. Is Father Ted on the list?
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Well, it's not a film.
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Does it not have any TV shows in it? Okay, it's all movies. All right. So, Graham, for you, either three. They've chosen for top three. But what would you have?
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I don't know. I mean, my tastes are very esoteric. One of my favorite comedies of all time is the Heartbreak Kid with Charles Grodin. I've watched that like, a thousand times. I think it's a perfectly constructed comedy.
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Movie that's in there, apparently.
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Oh, is it? Oh, good, good. It deserves to be. And I slightly disagree with Nerdradik on the Naked Gun. I just think the Naked Gun films were even an improvement on the airplane films in that just this simple thing of Leslie Nielsen's straight face throughout this utter insanity, I think is one of those comedy secrets they discovered that has hardly been beaten since then. Getting all these. And again, in the Naked Gun series, the Police Squad series, getting all these actors who were used to being in the type of TV shows they were parodying it was beautiful.
B
It's the funniest comedy, Graham Offensive. I mean a lot of Catholics got upset with Father Ted for example. But a lot of my favorite comedies are pretty near the knuckle.
G
You have to walk a line. And as people have been pointing out, the problem with the last decade again is that we haven't been allowed to walk the line. Comedians have to be able to take risks and to tell jokes that don't work and be offensive and all these things. But we've had a very nervous sort of executive class that the critical drinker nerdrotic have been covering brilliantly on their YouTube and it just seems to me that it like I think people might agree with me that Tropic Thunder is not only a great film but possibly the last balls out comedy to have been made, you know? Absolutely, yeah, 100%. It's such a shame. It's such a shame that we've had 10 years where it's been kind of like a desert, you know.
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Well, Let me ask Dr. Anastasia, we're on a lighter subject here. What's your favorite comedy movie?
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Not my genre of choice. So I'm learning.
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You surprised me. You don't find, you don't find things fun?
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Well, last time, Pierce, you told me I'm not fun at parties so I'm really matching my brain.
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You just proved the point. If you can't think of a single comedy movie you like.
But Anastasia, it's what I mean about the woke brigade. You don't like laughing, you're joining. Where's the laughter? Where's the fun?
F
I'm having fun here, Ferris. This has been.
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You don't find any comedy movies funny?
F
It's not my genre of choice.
B
You never watch comedy?
F
I mean occasionally, but I can't tell you off the top of my head. My favorites.
B
You can't think of a single comedy movie you've ever enjoyed?
F
No, Piers, I can't.
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Wow. This. You see, I need to read.
F
I'm shocking you today.
B
Well, it's just this is part of the problem with wokeism. It's humorless.
F
Oh gosh. Let's move on, Pierce.
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Jillian, I know you recline. I got it. I got it.
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My second heart is good, though.
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The thunder has already been stolen, quite literally with the suggestion of Tropic of Thunder. But I'm going to say Fish Called Wanda, something about Mary, and then I'm going to go to something about Mary.
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Great film.
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So good.
And then Harry Met Sally.
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Oh, When Harry Met Sally. None of those are in the top 100. How can you not have When Harry Met Sally?
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Oh, no, surely when Harry.
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The greatest. It must be in there, surely. Greatest comedic movie about relationships ever made. Wow. Is it not in there, team? Seriously?
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It's not 29.
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29.
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Is in there as well. I don't think something about Mary's on the list.
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Unbelievable.
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That's not in there.
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Yeah.
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Who is? Who is funnier? Nedrotic? American comedy or British comedy?
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Oh, British comedy.
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Yeah.
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100%. I grew up on it. Watching PBS here in America. Fawlty Towers.
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Yeah.
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Monty Python. Reading Douglas Adams. Yeah, absolutely. It's, it's, it's different. It's. Well, you're educated over there. Your schools are pretty good. So it's not anymore, buddy. Well, when I grew up 100 years ago. But yeah, I grew up on British comedy. I think it's superior. It's smarter.
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Ooh, God, these are fighting words. Chevy Chase, Jim Carrey, John Belushi.
G
I think it might be a case of Grass is Greener, you know? Cause I've always loved American comedy and really admire.
The spirit of American comedy. Recent shows, like, I think he should leave. You know, it's just a style of comedy we don't see over here. And, yeah, it's nice.
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It's.
G
It's.
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See, I would argue the funniest movie comedian of them all was Will. Is Will Ferrell. That I would say that I think his body of work is the funniest collection of films. If I could dive.
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He's been going through a bit of a dry spell over the past 15 years, though. Like, it's been quite a while, but.
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It needs to work with me again. His campaign was a massive success. That was a real thing. Let's turn to Wicked. Obviously, a massive box office success. $200 million taken in its open weekend. A lot of pushback from the old fans of the original wizard of Oz. They say the new version tramples on the classic lore and basically ruins it. The new twists in the movie include the magical Land of Owls is now a tyrannical patriarchy, of course led by a drug addled, animal abusing wizard who's also the deadbeat dad of the Wicked Witch of the west, who is now a misunderstood hero of the story. Innocent sweet Dorothy is now the baddie of the film. The Scarecrow is now the boyfriend of the Wicked Witch, despite the fact that in the original wizard of Oz she tries to set him on fire multiple times. The Tin man is a psychopathic rage machine intent on murder. Glinda the Good is a fraudulent witch who has no actual powers. There's an underground railroad under the Yellow Brick Road for enslaved animals and the Munch. And this might be the worst of all. The Munchkins are normal sized. They're drawn. Does it matter? It's obviously a big success. The younger crowd are flocking to it. They're obviously a little bit more touchy feely about these things. They'd love to see a bit of patriarchy bashing. Does it matter? If you rewrite the classics for a modern vibe, I think you got to.
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Base it on and it's. It's based on individual. Individuality, I would say. But I think it's a tired trope that's been going on for years. This is essentially fan fiction. If you go back to Watchmen, it's about subverting expectations. And Wicked is easily. Which I've seen the play too is patient zero for a lot of what we've seen going on in modern entertainment with Star wars and Star Trek. But I think Wicked, the story's so old and I, I think it's okay to make a movie this. Here we go. Because men and women are different. So Wicked is a movie for gay men and women. And it's certainly get like. Like Barbie was and. And you can make those just stop making Star Wars Wicked or Marvel Wicked. That's always been my contention, but it always has its place. As long as you recognize like there's his dark materials. There's people who hate traditional storytelling that will go out, write their own story to. To us Serpent and destroy it. But as far as Wicked is concerned, it's been around for so long. I, for me it doesn't matter personally. But as long as we recognize like this is what spawned an era that we're in now, an era that I'M sure we'll get to where with the box office and Hollywood falling apart because it's got an identity crisis and it really doesn't know what to do right now.
B
Yeah, I think that's right. I mean. Critical Drinker this strange chemistry between Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande on their press junkets led to speculation the two are in a non demi curious semi binary relationship. I have absolutely no idea what any of that meant, but let's take a look at a mashup of their press conferences.
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Not the time Helicopter it's been a.
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Pleasure spending time with you.
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It's good than a pleasure getting to know you and I hope you will be there for the rest of my life. I hope you'll let my friends be one of the things that you're learning how to let in.
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That would be so great that joy he wanted to be rituals in every frame. A critical drink here. I think I could safely say I'm probably the only member of this panel who has had Ariana Grande weep into his arms, which was in a restaurant in Beverly Hills during a four hour drinking session we had together a few years ago. I can't go into any more details, but it was a special night for both of us.
E
Oh please do.
B
And she did end up weeping into my arms, so. So I kind of feel an affinity with Cynthia Erivo and a little bit jealous that she's supplanted me.
Is this real, do you think, or is it just a little scambogia they've pulled on people where it's just incredibly entertaining.
E
Oh man, it's Hollywood. I mean it's not real life and these are not real human beings in the normal sense. Like they do not face the challenges that regular humans do. And I don't know man, it got me wondering like what on earth happened to these two women in the course of making this movie? They look like Vietnam veterans or something they have been through.
B
I mean when you're being given PTSD from a helicopter and have to be basically protected, something terrible has happened.
E
Well, they're, I don't know what it is. And it's like they were in the most like puff piece musical, like the most upbeat, fun thing you could get involved in. And man, it has destroyed both of them mentally and physically. Dr. Anastasia, find a path to wellness again.
B
Well, Let me ask Dr. Anastasia, this might be more in your wheelhouse than comedy. Perhaps. Can you explain to any of us what a non demi curious semi binary relationship is?
F
Unfortunately, I cannot because I think you just made that up.
B
However, that's a genuine, genuine thing. Okay.
F
Okay. Well, I did want to respond to another panelist around this idea whether these are real humans, real human beings. I think that's what he said and I really think that's not necessarily true. What we're seeing might be a genuine interaction and it's precisely because we don't see these women as real human beings that they've been receiving just loads of abuse and harassment and mockery online. And so I think we can talk about it, how it's making us uncomfortable in some way, the way they're acting, the vulnerability on display. But to say that they're not real human beings, I think might risk being harmful in the way that we see it.
E
Yeah, I don't mean that they're like robots or like lizard people or anything. I just mean that they are not normal human beings.
F
Like, I mean, they're highly successful, they're very affluent. Yeah, absolutely. But I've just been saddened to see the kind of response where that kind of crosses the line of mockery. And I'm quite excited.
B
I think if you're weeping about the noise of a helicopter, you're probably entitled to a bit of mockery.
E
Sometimes mockery is okay.
B
Yeah, it's kind of very mockery.
F
I would disagree with that.
B
Well, if the helicopter flew over to the studio now and I started going.
I've had a helicopter, trust me, Anastasia, even you would crack a smile. Gillian, what do we make of these two? It's a fascinating thing to watch them, but are we overthinking it? Is it just Hollywood being Ollie weird?
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I think there's a little more to this. My 15 year old gave me a full lecture in anticipation of our conversation this morning. And she did point out that both of these women have been through quite a lot. That Ariana Grande was a Dan Schneider Nickelodeon kid and that Cynthia Erivo has been abandoned by her father. And I think what we're seeing, even though this is the doctor's job to probably elaborate on this, but I think what we're seeing is a unique form of trauma bonding. I really do. And it is making us uncomfortable, but it's not harming anyone. But I do think that's what's going on here. If I had to guess at it, I don't think it's performative.
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No. Okay, well, let's go on to time Person of the Year. Quite interesting because it's not given to the most popular beloved person of the year. It's just given to the most significant figure of a year. It's been going on for pretty well 100 years. In 1927, the first person of the year was the aviator Charles Lindbergh. In 38, it was Hitler. In 63, Martin Luther King. In 2017, the MeToo movement. So sometimes a trend will win or a group of people, an entity. And in 2024, Donald Trump was times person of the year after his reelection. So we looked at the prediction markets. Poly Market says AI is favorite with 36% of the favorite vote, Jensen Huang, the Nvidia CEO, 24% Pope Leo, the first American pope, obviously 15%, Donald Trump, 7%, Zoram Mamdani at 3% and Charlie Kirk at 2%, Graham Linehan. I mean, who do you think? I'm surprised you're not on that list, actually. But who do you think is Time's person of the Year? Who should it be?
G
I think it should be Charlie Kirk. I think Charlie Kirk paid the ultimate price for, you know, using his freedom of speech, trusting his audiences and trying to hear people out and express a version of Christianity. That seems to me.
Extremely noble and good. And all the things that were thrown at him after his death turned out not to be true. I think he was a wonderful man and he died because he trusted people too much.
B
Yeah, Nadratic, what do you think?
C
I have to agree with Graham. I think it's slam dunk. It should be Charlie Kirk.
It shifted the culture this year. We saw the reaction to his death where many of us lost friendships over what we saw people celebrating a man's death. And it really show as far as just influence and impact while he was alive and after his assassination. We've seen things kind of fall apart and within both the right and culturally. And I think that's impactful enough and it's just sad that we had to lose him to see like how ugly things are right now. So it has to be Charlie Kirk.
B
Critical drinker.
E
Can I offer a counterpoint to this? I'm gonna suggest Sydney Sweeney who is single handedly defeating Wokeism in Hollywood. Just by the way. I think that's a great, attractive, laid back, great show.
B
The only problem is she's dating Scooter Braun who's utterly revolting. Other than that, she's been great. We'll get that deal. She'll bring Gillian, who's your time person of the year.
D
I'm 100% with the guy with, with the, with, with Charlie Kirk. We have one gentleman, obviously, critical drinker, who wants Sydney Sweeney. I agree completely. It should be Charlie Kirk. And I think that we've seen just how valuable he was now that he's gone, which is absolutely heartbreaking. One thing I do want to point out about AI though is that this alarms me, to be honest, because these institutions are again making things that are factual, fluid, like personhood. If we go back to redefining what it means to be a woman, are we now redefining what it means to be a person? So that alarms me. I think that should absolutely not happen. And I'm all for Charlie Kirk being person of the end.
B
Okay, Dr. Anastasia, who would your suggestion be?
F
Well, my suggestion does not revolve around my feelings or who I think should be celebrated. It's really about the criteria that has been used and it is essentially a distinction, a way to mention somebody or something that has the most immense impact on society, economic, etc. For better or for worse. So I do think selecting AI is actually a sound idea primarily because even though time selection is titled person of the Year, it has never been just person of the year. You mentioned the Me Too movement.
B
Some often being groups when we think.
F
About the meeting has been revolutionary. It has affected. There's no sector that hasn't been affected, whether that's health or employment. Our daily lives. So I think it would be a great opportunity to have a conversation about what this year has brought in terms of innovation. And that's the suggestion I would go with.
B
Okay. I would personally say Trump should get it again, because honestly, if you look at the year, the amount of news that basically is dominated by one individual is quite extraordinary. So I don't disagree with the Charlie Kirk suggestion. I think he's a very laudable candidate for this. What happened to him was just unspeakable. And to be killed for your speech just repulses me. I do think Trump has such an overbearingly dominant impact, good, bad and ugly, on pretty much everything that I find him irresistible as a winner this year. But we shall see. We'll know quite soon. Polymarket are usually right, so maybe it will be AI. We're going to end with a little note about Thanksgiving. I want to ask. Well, I'll ask you, actually, you. First of all, Nadroti, do you know how it started?
G
Yeah.
C
You guys came over and conquered the United States and you had a little lunch with the people you were about to conquer, and then we made a holiday out of it.
B
So the word you're looking for is.
Nedrotic. The word you're looking forward to, we people in England, is.
Nedrotic. I know you can hear me.
The word he's obviously looking for is thank you, England, because without us, you wouldn't have a Thanksgiving Day. So when you're all guzzling your turkeys this week and all the other random things you do way before, when you should do it on Christmas Day, just remember, without us, without those settlers, the pilgrims back in 1621, scoffing their grub to celebrate basically creating America, there would be no Thanksgiving. Gillian, do you feel grateful or not?
D
I feel very grateful. And the one thing I would point out, and I do appreciate Nadril position, but this was a moment of unity. This is when the Native Americans and the Pilgrims came together. This is a holiday that was created by Abraham Lincoln, I believe, in 1863, to bring us together. So for me personally, I think we should celebrate coming together as a nation, as well as our family, our friends, and everything beautiful about our globe right now. We should be positive in these moments.
B
Well, I am thankful to America because you've given me great time for the last 20 years.
F
Push back on that. Pierce, if I may, I do think it's important to have a conversation about the way Thanksgiving is a kind of American mythology that has often times used this idea of unity to actually overlook some of the uglier sides of our history. And for that reason, many places in the United States are adopting ways to celebrate indigenous cultures.
B
Right.
F
When we think about that mythology of Thanksgiving and coming together, I don't think it's actually rooted in the reality of US history that has been marked by the genocide of indigenous people. So I wanted to offer that mythology.
D
It actually did happen. And you can absolutely celebrate indigenous people simultaneously. These two things are.
B
I'm not entirely sure. Yeah, I'm.
Think. I think along with not finding anything funny, Dr. Anastasia probably doesn't celebrate anything because everything. I do not celebrate Thanksgiving because everything is terrible.
C
Normal turkey for us.
B
Thanksgiving is terrible. Turkeys are terrible. The English are terrible. Everything is absolutely terrible. Well, Graham, you've moved to America. Yes. Do you feel thankful that America has taken you in?
G
Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm hoping to be useful enough to the Americans that they want me to stay because I certainly don't want anything to do with the UK anymore. But yeah, I love it over there and I can't wait to get back, you know?
B
Yeah, I do. I was about to say, before I was so rudely interrupted by Dr. Anastasia. I'm surprised.
F
Well, you've done it to me. Pierre's. Every single time I've spoken.
B
But I do think it's.
C
We can keep going.
B
It's a fantastic country and extremely welcoming, actually, to people from anywhere. And I've loved America. Love Americans. Love the way they celebrate Thanksgiving. We'll ignore Dr. Anastasia's attempt to ruin it as the habitual party pooper in these panels. And actually quite.
F
It's Dr. Anastasia. Anastasia. Thank you.
B
And correcting my pronunciation as well. Just admit it's always a pleasure.
D
You gotta bring the moon down.
F
Someone has to do it.
B
My humble apologies. Apologies to you and the drotic. I hear that you actually weren't pretending not to hear me. You couldn't hear me. No, but it was actually. It was actually flawless. Well, it was more comedic to think you were deliberately ignoring the opportunity to thank us than it was if you'd actually heard me. So we're just gonna leave it as it was. Panel, you've been great. Happy Thanksgiving and thank you to everyone for joining me. I appreciate it.
G
Thank you.
B
Likewise.
G
Cheers, Piers.
B
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Release Date: November 28, 2025
Host: Piers Morgan
Panelists: Will Jordan (The Critical Drinker), Gary “Nerdrotic” Buechler, Jillian Michaels, Dr. Anastasia Gabriel, Graham Linehan
This episode dives into three main areas:
Throughout, the panel's conversation is sharp, opinionated, and often combative—exemplifying Piers's “Uncensored” approach.
[03:00–13:16]
Context:
A transgender woman, Jammy Booker, won the title of World’s Strongest Woman but was later stripped of the title when it emerged she was biologically male.
Piers Morgan’s Take:
Uses the incident to claim that “woke is dead,” citing quick public backlash and official correction.
"This is why I believe wokeism is actually dead. Not everyone’s got the memo yet, but the public tolerance… is disintegrating." (03:39)
Jillian Michaels:
Glad for the correction, but argues “wokeness” persists:
"Fairness in sports is essential. But I completely disagree with you about Woke being dead, Piers, I’m seeing craziness abound everywhere." (04:06)
Dr. Anastasia Gabriel:
Pushes back, questioning what “woke” really means and cautions against rhetoric that leads to harassment:
"What worries me the most is the kind of abuse and harassment that oftentimes emerges in these moments..." (05:18)
Refuses to comment on specifics without familiarity but insists on focusing on the larger issues around inclusivity and respect.
Debate on Sport & Gender:
Piers repeatedly asks Gabriel whether she would support gender-neutral Olympics, ultimately extracting a reluctant admission about athletic differences:
Piers: "Why do we separate the sexes in the Olympics?"
Dr. Gabriel: "…there are different athletic abilities." (07:07–07:12)
Piers: "Ah. Bingo. So you know it’s unfair." (07:13)
Jillian Michaels:
Asserts that biology is the critical factor and blurring these facts harms society’s ability to work through real issues:
“When you mess around with fundamental truths like XY chromosome and XX chromosome, it is crippling to a society…” (08:48)
Graham Linehan:
Emphasizes a pattern going back a decade, mentioning Laurel Hubbard as another example, and labels the practice as "ridiculous" and "insane" (13:38–13:43).
[09:17–12:59]
Background:
Graham Linehan was acquitted of harassment after a legal dispute involving online commentary about a teenage trans activist.
Linehan’s Perspective:
Explains long-term targeting and harassment, the loss of professional and personal stability, and frustration at lack of support from peers.
“If ever I’m rude or angry or express myself forcefully, it’s simply because I’m just disgusted by my colleagues who have watched me go through all this without a word of support.” (11:53)
Piers Morgan:
Suggests Linehan’s rhetoric may occasionally detract from his cause, and asks if he’d tone it down in hindsight.
[13:43–22:02]
Top 3:
Panel Reactions:
Piers:
Outraged that films like Anchorman and The Campaign didn't place higher.
“Anchorman is not in the top three… not only the greatest anti woke movie ever made, but also howlingly funny” (14:08)
Nerdrotic (Gary Buechler):
Laments the omission of films like Monty Python’s Holy Grail, Ghostbusters, Blues Brothers, and especially Tropic Thunder.
"Any list that doesn't have Tropic Thunder… is a mad, mad, mad, Mad World" (15:08)
The Critical Drinker (Will Jordan):
Upset that the Cornetto Trilogy was left off, suggests Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz, and The World’s End should have ranked.
“I’m really incensed that the Cornetto trilogy wasn't there…” (16:11)
Graham Linehan:
Picks “The Heartbreak Kid” as a favorite. Praises “Naked Gun” for Leslie Nielsen’s deadpan acting.
Discussion on Offensive Comedy:
Panel notes that great comedies often push boundaries—citing “Blazing Saddles,” Father Ted, and Tropic Thunder.
"…possibly the last balls out comedy to have been made.” (Graham Linehan, 17:59)
Dr. Anastasia Gabriel:
Reiterates comedy is not her genre, drawing joking criticism from Piers and the others, who link lack of comedic taste to being “woke.”
"It’s not my genre of choice. I’m learning." (18:55)
British vs. American Comedy:
[22:48–30:58]
Piers’s Rundown:
Outlines drastic plot changes in “Wicked” and notes the generational appeal to “patriarchy bashing.”
Gary Buechler:
Sees the movie as symptomatic of “fan fiction” subversions in Hollywood, suggesting Wicked paved the way for identity-focused reworkings of classics.
“Wicked is a movie for gay men and women… you can make those, just stop making Star Wars Wicked or Marvel Wicked.” (24:16)
Critical Drinker:
Mocks the “non demi curious semi binary relationship” between the stars as a symbol of Hollywood’s otherness:
"Oh man, it’s Hollywood. I mean it's not real life and these are not real human beings in the normal sense. Like they do not face the challenges that regular humans do." (27:33)
Dr. Gabriel:
Insists the stars are still “real human beings” and regards much of the public and online response as dehumanizing.
"…precisely because we don’t see these women as real human beings that they've been receiving just loads of abuse and harassment and mockery online." (28:32)
Jillian Michaels:
Offers a psychological take, referencing the backgrounds of Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo and suggesting the visible dynamic may be “trauma bonding.” (30:58)
[31:37–36:13]
Nominee Predictions:
AI, Nvidia’s Jensen Huang, Pope Leo, Donald Trump, Zoram Mamdani, Charlie Kirk.
Panel Choices:
Graham Linehan & Nerdrotic:
Argue for Charlie Kirk, citing cultural impact and the intense reaction to his death.
"I think Charlie Kirk paid the ultimate price for, you know, using his freedom of speech… I think he was a wonderful man and he died because he trusted people too much." (Graham Linehan, 32:48)
Critical Drinker:
Suggests Sydney Sweeney “defeating Wokeism in Hollywood” as an influential figure, in a tongue-in-cheek response.
Jillian Michaels:
Supports Kirk but worries about nominating AI as “Person” of the Year, warning about the trend of redefining concepts like personhood.
Dr. Anastasia Gabriel:
Argues impact, not sentiment, should determine the winner. Supports AI as the most transformative force of the year.
"…AI is actually a sound idea… it has affected … our daily lives." (35:21)
Piers:
Argues for Trump’s lasting news dominance, sees Kirk as “a very laudable candidate,” but expects AI could win based on prediction markets.
[37:04–40:32]
Nerdrotic Recap:
Offers a tongue-in-cheek history—“You guys came over and conquered the United States and had a little lunch…” (37:06)
Gratitude & Debate:
Jillian Michaels:
Cites its origin as a moment of unity, emphasizes positivity in coming together.
“I think we should celebrate coming together as a nation, as well as our family, our friends, and everything beautiful…” (38:03)
Dr. Gabriel:
Warns against mythologizing history and glossing over the genocide of indigenous people, calls for greater acknowledgment of these truths.
“…Thanksgiving is a kind of American mythology that has oftentimes used this idea of unity to actually overlook… the genocide of indigenous people.” (38:59)
Panel’s Friction:
Piers, returning to humor, accuses Dr. Gabriel of being the “habitual party pooper.” She corrects his pronunciation, “It’s Dr. Anastasia, Anastasia. Thank you.” (40:29)
Graham Linehan:
Expresses gratitude for America after feeling disillusioned with the UK.
On Trans Winners in Women's Sports:
“When you mess around with fundamental truths like XY and XX chromosome, it is crippling to a society because we cannot solve problems when we can’t agree on what’s real and what isn’t.”
— Jillian Michaels [08:48]
On “Woke is Dead”:
“This is why I believe wokeism is actually dead… the public tolerance of it is disintegrating.”
— Piers Morgan [03:39]
On Excluding Certain Films from Comedy Lists:
“Any list that doesn't have Tropic Thunder… is a mad, mad, mad, Mad World”
— Nerdrotic [15:08]
On Being Perceived as Humorless:
"It's not my genre of choice. I'm learning."
— Dr. Anastasia Gabriel [18:55]
To which Piers jibes: “You just proved the point… it’s what I mean about the woke brigade. You don’t like laughing…”
On Thanksgiving’s History:
“Thanksgiving is a kind of American mythology that has oftentimes used this idea of unity to actually overlook… the genocide of indigenous people.”
— Dr. Anastasia Gabriel [38:59]
On Online Harassment & Support:
“If ever I’m rude or angry or express myself forcefully, it’s simply because I’m just disgusted by my colleagues who have watched me go through all this without a word of support.”
— Graham Linehan [11:53]
This episode is a perfect capsule of relentless, passionate free speech, discomfort with changing cultural tides, and the persistence of sharp wit—even as the lines between serious debate and satire blur.