"We'll Beat The S*** Outta YOU!" Piers Morgan Called a ****! Derek Chisora & Deontay Wilder

Summary

Podcast Summary: Piers Morgan Uncensored

Episode: "We'll Beat The S* Outta YOU!" Piers Morgan Called a **! Derek Chisora & Deontay Wilder

Date: April 1, 2026
Host: Piers Morgan
Guests: Derek Chisora, Deontay Wilder

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Episode Overview

This high-voltage episode brings together heavyweight boxing champions Derek Chisora and Deontay Wilder for an intense, candid, and often hilarious sit-down with Piers Morgan. The trio dives deep into the psyche of fighters on the eve of battle, the reality of ageing in combat sports, personal struggles and philosophies, and the wild dynamics of selling a major fight. Expect raw emotion, sharp banter, and honest reflection on boxing, masculinity, adversity, and family.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Build-Up: Why They're Here

• Both Chisora and Wilder are preparing for their 50th professional fight, facing each other at London’s O2 Arena.
• Chisora frames it as possibly his last dance; Wilder, as his final charge at the top.
• The episode is peppered with classic fighting banter and reversals of the “let’s sell the fight” narrative.

Notable Quote:
Derek Chisora (00:44)

"Because you're the Supreme One. Because you are one. Maybe we'll beat the shit out of you. Maybe bring Tyson Fury."

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2. Fighter Mentality: On Fear, Mind Games & Respect

Fight Week Mindset

• Wilder: Training is the real struggle; the ring is the “hurt business.” (02:44)
• Chisora: “Mind games” are a tactic, but with Wilder he’s direct; expects a knockout within five rounds (05:19).
• Neither claims they “hate” their opponent – it’s mutual respect but undeniable aggression.

Notable Quotes:
Wilder (03:23):

“The love is always going to be there. That's my brother. But on the night of the fight... it's going to be a different feeling.”

Chisora (05:32):

"I'm not scared of him. That's the thing. I really want to take it to him and bring it to him."

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3. Career Reflections: Longevity, Discipline & Legacy

Chisora:

• Admits to 13 losses but downplays the number as “not a lot” given the quality of opposition (06:02).
• Attributes longevity to stubbornness and self-motivation (26:45), says of his idols, “Myself, actually.”
• Credits his Born Again faith and eight-year sobriety for his late-career run (28:28).

Wilder:

• Ignores fight stats, focusing on unifying the division and building generational wealth (07:01).
• Sees himself as “a warrior” guided by feeling – “I’ll know when it’s time to stop.” (09:12)
• Shares how becoming a father to a child with special needs reshaped his life (44:42).

Notable Quotes: Wilder (06:14):

“I got into this business to risk my life to save a life. That's it.”

Chisora (28:24):

“I am that fine wine. I'm that Bordeaux you drink yourself of France.”

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4. On Boxing’s Dangers and the Business

• Chisora controversially claims, “Boxing is not dangerous. It’s only dangerous when people take the piss out of it.” (10:28)
• Both highlight the temptations for boxers to stay too long for money, sometimes due to mismanagement.
• Candidly acknowledge the “scumbaggery” of boxing promoters and industry (43:19, 52:11).

Notable Quotes:
Chisora (10:35):

“Boxing is not dangerous. Boxing is great. You know, it's only dangerous when people take the piss out of it.”

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5. Interview Tensions: Fury, Media & Being Uncensored

• Wilder is adamant about not discussing Tyson Fury, referencing negative experiences with past interviews, feeling misunderstood and edited (15:23–18:56).
• He repeatedly requests respect for his boundaries:
  Wilder (15:08):

  “Look, this segment is not about him. For my last time speaking, respect that.”

• Both demand true “uncensored” conversation, challenging media unfairness and the importance of authenticity.

Memorable Exchange:
Chisora and Wilder jokingly gang up on Piers, calling him the c-word for pushing Fury questions (15:38–16:00).
Chisora:

"Because I like cunts." (16:00)

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6. Personal Backgrounds: Adversity, Family, and Upbringing

Wilder

• Grew up in poverty in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, raised by a loving but struggling single father (20:32).
• Views himself as having “broken the generational curse,” now providing generational wealth (22:09).
• Shares a harrowing story about becoming a single father to a daughter with spina bifida, emphasizing his determination and love (44:42–48:27).

Chisora

• Raised in Zimbabwe by grandparents; moved to the UK at 16 (25:36).
• Describes his upbringing as “comfortable” and credits it for his resilience, but avoids digging too deep into his past (26:15).

Notable Quotes: Wilder (23:13):

“If you ain’t been through a struggle, you'll never survive in this world.”

Chisora (26:45):

“Myself, because half of the people I know, they'd have quit already by now.”

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7. Masculinity, Fatherhood, and Life Outside the Ring

• Both express deep pride in their roles as fathers and their motivation to provide and be present.
• Chisora’s greatest wish is to “walk [his] kids down the aisle” (42:36).
• Wilder is candid about navigating toxic relationships and the impact on his children. He challenges societal views of masculinity and parenthood, stressing the importance of a father’s love (48:27–51:02).

Notable Quotes:
Wilder (49:28):

“When you have a father's love in the household, the success rate is through the roof, through the sky.”

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8. Trouble & Scrapping, Love & Violence

• Chisora leans into his reputation as a lovable brawler, admitting he “makes trouble” and loves a scrap—even, humorously, at school drop-off (34:55, 35:02).
• Wilder, in contrast, insists he radiates love, disarming situations with positive energy—but Chisora is unconvinced ("Bro, leave the love alone for now, bro" (33:12)).
• Both reflect on contrasting social cultures around violence, respect, and how they get approached in public.

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9. Social Commentary: UK, US, Politics, and Division

• Chisora expresses frustration about government-driven division in the UK, particularly around narratives about Muslims and local politics (37:00).
• Wilder sidesteps US politics, stating, “The world is what it is and as the people, we can make it better...without us, nothing is possible” (39:04).

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10. The Fight: Predictions and Final Hype

• Banter about Tyson Fury (“Tell him put his money on it,” Wilder (14:14; 40:14)).

• Both refuse to give any ground on outcome predictions; Chisora says the fight will be “amazing” and “unbelievable” and that no one will be sitting down (05:35, 52:51).

• Wilder guarantees he is back to clean up the heavyweight division (54:47):

  "Call me Mr. Cleen because I'm here to clean up the whole division."

• Anthony Joshua is confirmed as attending—a rarity heightening the stakes (53:36).

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments (w/Timestamps)

• Chisora (00:44): “Maybe we'll beat the shit out of you. Maybe bring Tyson Fury.”
• Wilder (03:23): "The love is always going to be there. That's my brother. But on the night of the fight... it's going to be a different feeling."
• Chisora (05:19): “I don't see this fight going past five rounds.”
• Wilder (06:14): “I got into this business to risk my life to save a life. That's it.”
• Chisora to Piers (16:00): “Because I like cunts.”
• Wilder (23:13): “If you ain’t been through a struggle, you'll never survive in this world.”
• Chisora (26:45): “Myself, because half of the people I know, they'd have quit already by now...”
• Wilder (49:28): “When you have a father's love in the household, the success rate is through the roof, through the sky.”
• Wilder (54:47): “I'm gonna put them back on notice to let them know I'm here. They can call me Mr. Cleen... I'm here to clean up the whole division.”

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 00:00–01:36: Opening banter, setting the mood and stakes of the fight
• 02:01–05:19: The mentality of fight week, training, and the dynamic between Chisora and Wilder
• 10:03–11:43: On boxing’s dangers, the risks of fighting on too long, and industry realities
• 12:06–18:56: Media manipulation, editing, and the demand for uncensored interviews
• 20:32–24:44: Wilder’s upbringing in Alabama, breaking the cycle, hunger as motivation
• 25:36–26:15: Chisora’s upbringing and values
• 28:28–29:41: Chisora’s sobriety, finding faith, and discipline
• 34:41–35:59: Chisora’s appetite for fighting outside the ring and love of scrapping
• 39:01–41:16: Social commentary: race, politics, and the role of the people
• 44:42–50:57: Wilder’s story of fatherhood, raising a daughter born with spina bifida
• 52:51–53:40: Hype for the fight: Predictions, what's at stake, final rallying cries

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Conclusion

This uncensored special is a showcase of what makes heavyweight boxing—and its biggest personalities—so captivating. Raw and sometimes abrasive, it's a rare portrait of two fighters at the crossroads, as they reflect on everything from the damage of the game to their love for family and the strange pressures of public life. The episode delivers authentic emotion, plenty of laughs, and fight hype with depth well beyond the usual theatrics.

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Final Note:
The interactions between host and fighters—at points combative, at others deeply respectful—give insight into boxing's soul: a place of contradiction, vulnerability, pride, and survival instinct. For fans and newcomers alike, this is a must-listen ahead of one of the year’s biggest fights.

Transcript

[Piers Morgan]

You're in a very good mood and you want to kill me. So let's get that out of the way. I'm not actually fighting you, so no,

[Deontay Wilder]

I don't want to kill you. If that was the case, it would have been done. You tried to make me talk about something that I don't want to talk about.

[Piers Morgan]

No, no, I'm not talking.

[Deontay Wilder]

You understand what I said here?

[Piers Morgan]

I know what you said.

[Deontay Wilder]

Look, this segment is not about him. For my last time speaking. Respect that.

[Piers Morgan]

Deontay. You've been in this studio before. Do you remember?

[Deontay Wilder]

I don't about that.

[Piers Morgan]

I'm not furious. I don't about it.

[Deontay Wilder]

I said we didn't want to bring him up in the first place. It ain't got shit to do with him.

[Piers Morgan]

Fair enough.

[Deontay Wilder]

I'm a grown man. You're not gonna. What I'm gonna talk about when I don't want to talk. But we are gonna talk about it. I got more responsibility than you have life left for you.

[Piers Morgan]

And as you said.

[Derek Chisora]

Now let's tell him he's a and let's just move on. Who? You?

[Piers Morgan]

Me or Tyson Fury?

[Derek Chisora]

You.

[Piers Morgan]

Why?

[Derek Chisora]

Because you're the Supreme One. Because you are one. Maybe we'll beat the shit out of you. Maybe bring Tyson Fury.

[Piers Morgan]

Maybe you could try. Tyson Fury predicted that director Zora is gonna knock you out. Every so often there's a fight which means a whole lot more than winning or losing. Derek Chisora and Deontay Wilder will both fight for the 50th time at the O2 in London on Saturday. For Chisora, many are saying it's the last dance. Win or lose, he says he'll retire. For Wilder, maybe it's the last chance. A defeat would spell the end of his ambitions. For a final tilt at the top. It's a heavyweight blockbuster streaming live on Dazn. And before they face off on the ring, they're facing off with me here in the uncensored studio. Derek Chisora, Deontay Wilder. Join me now, gentlemen. How are you? How are you, mate?

[Derek Chisora]

You alright?

[Piers Morgan]

Well, my early assessment before we started was that you're in a very good mood and you want to kill me. So let's get that out of the way. I'm not actually fighting you, so, Deontay, let's start with you. We met before?

[Deontay Wilder]

Most definitely. No, I don't want to kill you. If that. If that was the case, it would have been done.

[Piers Morgan]

But you don't seem in a very good mood. Or are you just Hiding it.

[Deontay Wilder]

I'm in a great mood.

[Piers Morgan]

You are.

[Deontay Wilder]

I mean, you know, it's fight week, you know, so.

[Piers Morgan]

So talk to me about fight week. Cause you guys are both about to have your 50th profile. I. I cannot imagine what it feels like to get into a ring and have a fight with somebody in front of millions of people watching. When you get to this stage, here we are Monday night, you got a fight on Saturday against this guy. You're both big, professional, experienced heavyweight boxers with massive punches. People die in the ring. This is real, right? What we're doing now is sport. It's like theater. It's like, you know, bit of verbal jousting. What you guys are going to do is real. What is that feeling like as you get nearer?

[Deontay Wilder]

I mean, if, you know, as you train. They say the hardest part is in training. You know, you go through all the morning workouts, you go in the afternoon workouts, sometimes you have night workout. You know, depending on where your mindset is and where you want to be come the night of the fight, they say only your best is when you're performing in training and sparring and different things like that. And over the time, people don't understand as a fighter, you're drilled in day in and day out. Your opponent, day in and day out, and this is who you want to hurt. Because at the end of the day, this is the hurt business.

[Piers Morgan]

What do you feel when you look at it?

[Deontay Wilder]

I mean, you know, when I'm next to him, when I feel. When I see him, you know, at the end of the day, like I said before, the love is always going to be there. That's my brother. But on the night of the fight, when that bell say ding, you know, it's just a different. It's gonna be a different feeling, you know, once we get. Putting our clothes on, being ready to go, we're warriors. At the end of the day, you

[Piers Morgan]

have to hate him in that moment.

[Deontay Wilder]

You don't have to. I don't have to hate. Some people have their own different antics of going inside the ring of or looking at a fighter, wanting to build dirt on him and fight him. The special ones, you don't need it, you know, it's in us and on us, you know, to be able to perform and do what we have to do.

[Piers Morgan]

Terry, what do you feel?

[Derek Chisora]

Me, I just want to throw punches. That's how I feel.

[Piers Morgan]

What do you feel when you look at him?

[Derek Chisora]

I see another black man who's done very well for the game, for the Sport. A guy I always wanted to fight from day one. This fight was meant to happen time ago. It didn't happen and I was happening. So it's a. I know exactly what you want.

[Deontay Wilder]

But it's. There's.

[Derek Chisora]

I don't hate the guy.

[Piers Morgan]

No, no. I don't want that. Don't get me wrong. I don't hate the guy. I don't want to put any words into your. I'm not part of the. I'm not part of the marketing cell. Right. Listen, I genuinely want to get inside your head. It's about how you really feel, bro.

[Derek Chisora]

There's nothing in my head apart from a cloudy space, bro. That's why I box for a living, bro. All I want to say to you is mind games. I'm very good at mind games. Yeah, that's one thing. I'm very good at mind games. I can actually go in and somebody with mind games and win the mind games. But with this guy here, there's no mind games. I want to fight him and I want to take him out. I don't see this fight going past five rounds.

[Piers Morgan]

Really?

[Deontay Wilder]

Yeah.

[Piers Morgan]

This guy has one of the hardest punches in the history of boxing. Yeah, I've seen him spark people. You know, there's no part of you, he's saying you want to fight him. I couldn't think of anyone I'd much rather fight.

[Derek Chisora]

I'm not scared of him. That's the thing. I'm not scared of him.

[Piers Morgan]

That's different.

[Derek Chisora]

I'm not scared of him. But I really want to take it to him and bring it to him. What I got. I can guarantee you this fight, people won't be sitting down.

[Piers Morgan]

It's going to be explosive.

[Derek Chisora]

I'm going to start fast.

[Piers Morgan]

So you've had a fascinating career.

[Derek Chisora]

Yes, sir.

[Piers Morgan]

Because you fought pretty well everyone.

[Derek Chisora]

I fought everybody apart from one person. I'm joking.

[Piers Morgan]

Right. Well, you've lost a lot of fights.

[Derek Chisora]

13. That's. That's not a lot.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, is it? I don't know. You tell me. What do you think?

[Deontay Wilder]

That's.

[Derek Chisora]

That's okay.

[Piers Morgan]

Is it?

[Derek Chisora]

Yeah.

[Piers Morgan]

How many have you lost?

[Deontay Wilder]

I don't know. I don't keep up with. Win, lose.

[Piers Morgan]

It's not many, though, is it?

[Deontay Wilder]

I don't keep up with my knockouts.

[Piers Morgan]

Really.

[Deontay Wilder]

I don't keep up with anything. I just. I mean, you're not a stats guy. I got into this reason. I mean, I got into this business to risk my life to save a life. That's it. You know, I never got into the fame or the fortune or how many women I can get or sleep with or how many things I can buy with the money. I never looked at those things. When I fight, I'm mia. I'm gone. I'm back to my family. I'm back to my children. I have seven children. I want seven more. If it was up to me, I'd have 50. That's my life. I'm a family, 50 children. I would love it.

[Piers Morgan]

Really.

[Deontay Wilder]

I would love it.

[Piers Morgan]

Wouldn't get much sleep.

[Deontay Wilder]

I sleep when I die. I always tell people I'll sleep when I die. That's when we get the goodest, best sleep of our lives. When we die.

[Piers Morgan]

How much do you want to carry on?

[Deontay Wilder]

You know, I got a goal. I've always set a goal of coming into this business is to unify the division, you know, I never had an opportunity or chance, you know, and that's my goal, you know? So truly, I feel I have 10 years left in me. If I choose to. I don't need boxing. Boxing need me. I can retire to this day and be. Be fine, be well off, you know.

[Derek Chisora]

That's why we're retiring together on Saturday.

[Piers Morgan]

I did well. It could happen.

[Derek Chisora]

Coming back on the question, you said, you know. He said he don't look at his knockouts. I believe he does, though, because he's a man who actually got a statue around his house or back garden. So I think he's a bit vain with that. When you put a statue on your own land and you're walking.

[Deontay Wilder]

No, it's not on my own land is a sanctioned statue, and it's out to the public by the Black Warrior River.

[Derek Chisora]

Okay.

[Deontay Wilder]

You should come and see one day you will.

[Derek Chisora]

One day I will.

[Deontay Wilder]

Yeah. When we go fishing. Yeah, right.

[Piers Morgan]

See, that's an interesting thing. So one day you could be friends and go fishing. And I get all that. I did a show called Celebrity Apprentice USA with Lennox Lewis many years ago. Nearly 20 years ago, Donald Trump was the host of the show. Can you believe that?

[Deontay Wilder]

Yeah.

[Piers Morgan]

And Lennox and I spent a lot of time together. We got into some deep conversations. He'd been offered $100 million to get back in the ring, and he kept saying no. And I said, how can you turn that kind of money down? He said, because I've made a lot of money. I love my family. Every year, I don't fight again. My legacy gets better. Because I think he had 44 fights and he lost two, and he went back and knocked them both out. And he said, and I don't want to end up punch drunk or brain dead or any of those things. He knew when to stop. Other boxers that, you know, some of them that they miscalculate, they go on for a fight too long or too many fights and they end up where they're a shadow of themselves. That has to play on your mind the longer you fight, right? You're Both in your 40s now. Deontay, talk to me about that calculation about not having to fight too many.

[Deontay Wilder]

I'm a warrior, I don't think about those things at all. You know, for me, when I go in establishments, when I shake people hand, when I talk to people, it's all a feeling to me, you know, it's a feeling I know when it's time to stop. It's a feeling that's inside will let me know, you know, just like I do anything else in my life. It's always a feeling, an intuition of things, you know, I don't, I don't going to think I'm going to get punch drunk or whatever, you know, the power of the tongue is real. What you think will manifest into the world. What you speak will manifest into the world. So I don't speak of those things, you know, I'm a true warrior, you know, God has blessed me tremendously with so many different talents and ability and the skill to do so many things, especially with my mind. It's very powerful, you know, and when that time comes, I wouldn't know.

[Piers Morgan]

Derek, what do you feel about that?

[Derek Chisora]

About what? Brain damage?

[Piers Morgan]

Well, just about potentially going on too long.

[Derek Chisora]

I think life is just like. I mean yourself, look at yourself right now. You've got a new hip now because you went to a restaurant and you drink some wine and you've.

[Piers Morgan]

I didn't drink any wine.

[Derek Chisora]

You missed a step and now you broke.

[Piers Morgan]

I wish I had drunk wine. I was told if I drunk wine I would have fallen slower and I wouldn't have broken it.

[Derek Chisora]

Listen, boxing is not dangerous.

[Piers Morgan]

Boxing is dangerous.

[Derek Chisora]

No, it's not, it's a lie. Boxing is not dangerous.

[Deontay Wilder]

Really?

[Piers Morgan]

You could say that.

[Derek Chisora]

I can say that boxing is not dangerous. Boxing is great. Boxing is not dangerous. You know, it's only dangerous when people take the piss out of it. You know, there's no point of sparring with 16 anglers when you're a heavyweight. That's when it's dangerous. Use 20, 22 or 24s, you know, you protect the other person you're trying to fight. You know, boxing are dangerous. How many people how many? We do the maths right now. How many people have been hurt in boxing since boxing was created?

[Piers Morgan]

Would you know the answer or could there be a lot? No, no, I don't mean the ones we know about. I mean, are there lots of boxers who do go on too long who end up wishing their head boxers go

[Derek Chisora]

on too long because sometimes the promoters skim them out of money and they have to pay the government money. So this is why they have to go back in the is an easy way to get the money you need to pay the government. You know, there's a reason why people go back in the. Back in the ring, you know, But I had some hard fights, some good fights. I made some money and I'm happy, you know, I'm very content. I'm so happy in myself.

[Piers Morgan]

Deontay, you've been in my studio before. Do you remember a while ago you were interviewed by Simon Jordan, Deja Vu Talk Sport. Let me just remind you, you lost those fights and those fights were lost. And you saying that someone like Fury cheated you in those fights, I think is a. Is kind of disappointing to me about

[Deontay Wilder]

you because I know the truth. I have the facts. It's so hard to believe a black man.

[Derek Chisora]

Why y' all don't get it.

[Deontay Wilder]

And that's the problem. You think you get what you don't understand inside of him. I don't what I don't give a about that.

[Piers Morgan]

I'm not furious.

[Deontay Wilder]

I don't give a about it. I said we didn't want to bring him up in the first place. It ain't got shit to do with him.

[Piers Morgan]

Fair enough. The you talking about now, Simon Jordan does have that effect on people. But what made you so angry about that?

[Deontay Wilder]

I mean, it's just the fact I'm a grown man. You're not gonna tell me what I'm gonna talk about when I don't wanna talk. But we are gonna talk about it. So when he said we're all gonna talk about it, I'm like, hold up, you know, I got more responsibility than you have life left in you, you know? So how you tell a grown man what he's gonna talk about? And that just basically was it, you know, it was peaceful, it was calm, it was pleasant. Until you try to make me. Make me talk about something that I don't want to talk about. I said what I've said and that's that I don't want to hear about being a spoiled brat because I've talked about something on another show that I didn't bring up. It was elaborated on something.

[Piers Morgan]

I'm not called you a spoiled Brian?

[Deontay Wilder]

No, I'm not talking to you, you know, about the situation where they wanted to talk about it because we was on another talk show talking about something that was brought up. That was just it, that was it, you know.

[Piers Morgan]

How do you personally feel about Tyson Fury now?

[Deontay Wilder]

I don't. We like again, we're not here for him.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, I'm not getting into what you said.

[Deontay Wilder]

Why are you advertising him? Why we're not here? We're here for Derry Tesora and that's it.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, because if you wanted to unify the heavyweight game, as you say, when

[Deontay Wilder]

that time comes, we'll talk about it.

[Piers Morgan]

Okay, but there's a. There's got to be a good chance. You would have to find him again.

[Deontay Wilder]

And when that time comes, we will talk about it. I'll sit right here in the same seat. He can sit in that same seat and we can talk about it then.

[Piers Morgan]

Last time I interviewed you, it was with him actually.

[Deontay Wilder]

Correct.

[Piers Morgan]

Let's take a little look at that. He's two inches taller.

[Derek Chisora]

He's two years younger.

[Piers Morgan]

He's bigger than you. He's younger and better looking.

[Deontay Wilder]

You heard that long laugh, you know, hey, all these things are true, you know, I must admit, you know, he definitely looking good. You know what I mean? You gotta commend him for that, you know, to be where he had gone and to come to where he is now, that just let you know that anything's possible. You know, no one has no excuse about being overweight. You know, they can say he's a professional fighter, he knows the things to do. It's more than that. It's the effort. It's that coming from that dark place and coming back out of it.

[Piers Morgan]

See, what I was struck by with that was just the respect you had then. That doesn't seem to be the case now. Would that be fair?

[Deontay Wilder]

Most definitely. I have zero respect for him.

[Derek Chisora]

Why?

[Deontay Wilder]

I've said what I've said.

[Piers Morgan]

No, no, I'm not talking.

[Deontay Wilder]

I've said what I said.

[Piers Morgan]

I know what you said.

[Deontay Wilder]

Look, this segment is not about him. For my last time speaking, respect that. Understand? Respect it and move forward. I've said what I've said. If y' all want, you're going back, you're seeing replays of things. Go back to what I was saying.

[Derek Chisora]

We don't have the box of tissues right now, so leave me alone.

[Piers Morgan]

What do you need box of tissues for?

[Derek Chisora]

Because that's What? My getting box of T shirts.

[Deontay Wilder]

That was crazy.

[Piers Morgan]

I just said. I don't want to make you say anything you don't want to say. It doesn't bother me either way. I just think it's interesting.

[Deontay Wilder]

And we doing replays. Go back to the things I've said.

[Derek Chisora]

Why?

[Deontay Wilder]

The reason I've said what I've said.

[Piers Morgan]

The only point I would make, the only point I would make is that you seemed then to have a lot of respect for him. And as you said, let's tell him

[Derek Chisora]

he's a cunt and let's just move on. Who, you?

[Piers Morgan]

Me or Tyson Fury?

[Deontay Wilder]

You.

[Piers Morgan]

Me, yeah. Why? Why am I.

[Deontay Wilder]

You keep talking about something we don't want to talk about. I'm fighting this man right here. Tell me something. Ask me something about him.

[Piers Morgan]

You think so?

[Derek Chisora]

Yeah.

[Piers Morgan]

Why?

[Derek Chisora]

Because you're just being one. Because you are one. So let's be honest.

[Piers Morgan]

Really?

[Derek Chisora]

Yeah.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, why? Why are you doing the show?

[Derek Chisora]

Why am I doing the show?

[Piers Morgan]

Yeah.

[Derek Chisora]

Because I just wanted to come on your show.

[Piers Morgan]

Why?

[Derek Chisora]

Because I like cunts.

[Piers Morgan]

You weren't so big I'd drop you.

[Derek Chisora]

You know.

[Deontay Wilder]

What would I without it?

[Piers Morgan]

But you're perfectly entitled to your opinion. And by the way, it doesn't make it a no, I'm joking.

[Derek Chisora]

I like you. You're fine. I just wanted this.

[Piers Morgan]

It doesn't bother me either way, mate.

[Derek Chisora]

You know, listen, I've interviewed a lot of boxers.

[Piers Morgan]

I actually love boxing.

[Derek Chisora]

Listen, listen, I love boxers.

[Piers Morgan]

I love boxing. I find them fascinating. You guys, you guys do something I could never do.

[Derek Chisora]

Thank you very much. You know the guy, I want to talk about that guy. He's got PTSD about that guy. So let's just move on.

[Piers Morgan]

Which is interesting, but I. I'll move on. But it is interesting to the boxing world. It is interesting. You can't pretend it's not. And given that your ambition is to hopefully unify the whole heavyweight game at some stage, you may have to talk about it. Yeah.

[Deontay Wilder]

I gotta get past him first. Right, so he's irrelevant right now.

[Piers Morgan]

You said an interesting thing to Simon Jordan, which I thought was really interesting. You said to him he'd never understand. I actually get on very well with Simon. He's a very. Do you? I do.

[Derek Chisora]

How'd you get along with Simon?

[Piers Morgan]

I think he's brilliant. You know why? Because in a world. In a world where people are terrified of expressing opinions, he will say what he thinks. People may not like it.

[Derek Chisora]

I like Simon, but I believe that.

[Piers Morgan]

I believe that you might not like him for having an opinion, but he's not afraid to express it. Even when your size with your punching record, he was not afraid to say what he thinks. I respect that.

[Deontay Wilder]

I'm not gonna be afraid to speak mine. I know that. And by the way, speak my piece.

[Piers Morgan]

I respect.

[Deontay Wilder]

My thing is don't edit it. Don't have an hour long show, then edit it to benefit yourself.

[Piers Morgan]

Do you know what we do on this show?

[Deontay Wilder]

You edit things to yourself. Yes, it was a lot of things said on this show. Yeah, well, not on this one. On that show, there was a lot of things edited that wasn't. That wasn't given to the people, the public. If you're gonna have me here and you're gonna be the interview me. Give it to the people. Give it full to the people. Don't edit it and make it seem like you sounding good or make it seem like I'm the bad guy. All y' all do it. All you journalists do.

[Piers Morgan]

Can I get a word in?

[Deontay Wilder]

You do it.

[Piers Morgan]

Do not judge me by that.

[Deontay Wilder]

I got my own camera.

[Piers Morgan]

Do not judge. I can. Where's your camera? Here. I can guarantee you the reason this show is called uncensored is we don't edit stuff. This will go out, including what you just called me. This will go out. Hopefully that will go viral. We'll get loads of people to watch and I'll end up fighting the winner of these two with my broken hip, which would be the greatest thing that has ever been marketed in his own history. But we are uncensored. I believe in uncensored. I believe in you saying what you really want to say. And we don't edit it. If you want to talk for half an hour about it, no problem. I'm not going to chop you up to make you look bad. Why would I?

[Deontay Wilder]

That's what y' all do.

[Piers Morgan]

I don't. I'm not all. Why are you brandishing me? It's like me saying all boxes are something. Why would I do that? Why wouldn't I judge you individually?

[Derek Chisora]

We'll see when you edit, when you bring it out.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, I'll bet you your purse from this fight that I don't edit it. You gonna take that back?

[Derek Chisora]

I'm not gonna hit it because I don't know. I don't know.

[Piers Morgan]

How confident are you? I'll bet you your purse we don't get it. Go out exactly as we're doing it.

[Derek Chisora]

Yeah.

[Piers Morgan]

And I'll bet you your purse.

[Derek Chisora]

Yeah, go on.

[Piers Morgan]

You want to take it?

[Derek Chisora]

I'll Bet you a cigar maybe.

[Piers Morgan]

What kind of cigar?

[Derek Chisora]

I don't know. Anything you want.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, if it's a Monte Cristo number two.

[Derek Chisora]

Okay, done.

[Piers Morgan]

Then we're talking.

[Derek Chisora]

Done.

[Piers Morgan]

Deontay. The point I was going to make was you made an interesting point to Simon Jordan in the middle of that furore about your upbringing, that no one really quite understands what you've come from. And I thought it was really interesting to remind my viewers that you come from what many would consider poverty. I don't know how you would describe it, in Tuscaloosa and Alabama. I've been there. You were raised in a very loving household by your father, Gary, a church minister, a heavy equipment operator. Your mother had left the family. So a lot of the heavy lifting of the parenting was done by your father. Although I think your mother came back later. He was paid $635 every other week, your dad, to take care of you and your siblings. And you said that from that point forward, life was survival mode. Your dad said that. Survival mode. Talk to me about that.

[Deontay Wilder]

I grew up in a loving family, you know, I didn't know how hard life was until I became older, having my own children and he expressing it, you know, during those times, you know, a child, you know, do as a child, you know, you do as a child does, you know, you go and play, you be respectful, you don't get in grown folks business. You don't sit in the same room as grown folks as they're discussing things. So we really didn't know a lot of things was going on. You know, a child lived life as life is presented to them. You know, so many things that we had to go through, many struggles that we had to go through. But, you know, it was normal to us. We didn't understand things. Until you get older, you realize and you see certain things and certain things that happen and you like, you know, certain things you may see as a child that you really don't supposed to see, you know, so it was, although we was filled with love in my household, it still was a rough upbringing. It still was a struggle in life. You know, I saw my dad had to sacrifice many things, even eating, you know, he fed us. Only way he ate was the script, the scraps from our place and different things, you know, kept a clean house. You know, we kept, we was well mannered, was very respectful being that he was the pastor of the church, you know, we represented him, you know. But it was a lot of things that occurred, you know, that we had to go through as Children.

[Piers Morgan]

What does he feel about what you've achieved with your life?

[Deontay Wilder]

He's a proud father. You know, I broke the curse. I broke the chain for my family, and we still live on to this day. You know, the generation, the generational curse of things. So now I have generational wealth for my family. My children never understood, understand what I've been through, nor with their family, with their children and their children. And that's just how the cycle supposed to cycle itself out, you know, I

[Piers Morgan]

interviewed Cristiano Ronaldo, the footballer, a few times, but one that really struck me was something he said. He's got a son who's playing for Portugal, a very good player, really talented, under 16. But he said, there's one thing I can never give him. And I said, what's that? He said, hunger, actual hunger, where you can't afford to eat. And it struck me, you probably can empathize with what he's getting at that when he was young, Cristiano, they had no money. He was literally hungry for food. And that can be an unbelievably motivating thing to somebody, most definitely.

[Deontay Wilder]

You know, there's this way. Sometimes life is dealt with. Certain people in life that you have to deal with how life is. You know, it's on the survival. That's the survival of the fittest, you know, the strongest survive in this world, you know, and sometimes you can't help where you're born. You can't help who you're born to, the place that you're born, the situation. Sometimes people wake up in negativity. I always say, how can you be positive when every day you wake up, it's negative things, or you wake up in negativity around. It's hard to be positive when you see that. And you have a system that is built to keep you down. You know, the system ain't built to keep you up and make everybody rich and go somewhere is. It's built to keep the rich rich and the poor poor, you know, and if you have that mentality that you're gonna stay down, then you gonna stay down. I don't have that mentality. You know, if I'm down, I'm gonna get back up. Every time you have to literally lean over me and shoot me in my head until you don't see no breath in me. And even still, I'm still gonna fight. You gotta kill me. One to the head, two to the chest. Kick me a little bit, too, to make sure I don't wiggle or wobble, you understand? Me, I'm tough. When God made me, he made the best. And this is how I am the strongest, the struggle. If you ain't been through a struggle, you'll never survive in this world. No matter where you go, you can place me anywhere in this world. I'll survive. I'm gonna come out strong.

[Piers Morgan]

Derek, what do you feel hearing that?

[Derek Chisora]

It's a long night. It's a long night.

[Piers Morgan]

You're gonna have to keep banging him over while it's out of it.

[Derek Chisora]

It's a long f. But I know he's a stubborn guy. But don't worry, we'll slow him down. We're gonna beat him up in terms

[Piers Morgan]

of the journey he's been on with his life. Is there stuff in there that you look back at your own life and

[Derek Chisora]

you can think, yeah, listen, he's been through a lot. I think half of Alabama's been through a lot. You know, that's not only him, because when he's saying that, that means half of every black man out there was going through that in Alabama. Do you understand? So even to this day, they're going through that. So, yeah, it's been a lot. I went through that a little bit, but not as tough as he is.

[Piers Morgan]

But you grew up in Zimbabwe.

[Derek Chisora]

Yeah.

[Piers Morgan]

You were brought up by your grandparents until you moved to the UK when you were 16. You then lived with your mother in Finchley. So a little bit unconventional. What did your upbringing teach you about life, you know?

[Derek Chisora]

Yeah. Talk about my upbringing, bro. We don't do it.

[Piers Morgan]

Why not? Because I don't want to. Why? Huh? Why don't you talk about boxing? Sure. But it's made you who you are.

[Derek Chisora]

Yeah, but it's some. Some. That's me. Yeah. I grew. I came here, I lived in Hampstead. What else is there to say?

[Piers Morgan]

I have no idea. That's why I'm asking you.

[Derek Chisora]

I lived in Hampstead in a very posh neighborhood. That's it.

[Piers Morgan]

So a comfortable life.

[Derek Chisora]

Very comfortable life.

[Piers Morgan]

Nothing of nothing. When you look back where you think.

[Derek Chisora]

Nothing to look back.

[Piers Morgan]

No adversity.

[Derek Chisora]

No. I enjoyed everything. Part of it, really. Yeah. Made me who I am today, you know, same as him. If he didn't go through those struggles with his father, he won't be the same. He won't be like. He won't be sitting there. So I enjoyed every part of it, you know, I enjoyed it.

[Piers Morgan]

Who are your idols in sport?

[Derek Chisora]

Myself,

[Piers Morgan]

actually. I say that about.

[Derek Chisora]

No, no, I'm telling you myself, because half of the people I know, they'd have quit already by now. They're not as stubborn as me. So I myself, because I motivate myself, I wake up in the morning, I do what I need to do. I respect myself. So I'm going to tell myself, I have to run these miles, I'll run those miles because I respect myself and I motivate myself and I look up to myself because I've seen. When I start boxing, I've seen fighters come in, great fighters. Some of you know them. Danny Williams, Micro Sport. They're great fighters. But after all, when it's all said and done nothing, you know, I tend to have a pro when they were fighting, and I'm still fighting now because I'm very stubborn and I look up to myself and I like what I do every day. Yeah, I enjoy it, man. You don't understand.

[Deontay Wilder]

I enjoy it.

[Piers Morgan]

Explain that to me.

[Derek Chisora]

I enjoy it.

[Piers Morgan]

I've been doing rehab for my hip for 10 weeks. It's nearly killed me.

[Derek Chisora]

Yeah, I enjoy it.

[Piers Morgan]

The physio, the hydro, the jumping around on one leg. It's like. It's torture for someone like me. How do you discipline yourself in your 40s to just. Why you complain?

[Derek Chisora]

I don't need to complain because I'm training to fight a man while I'm getting paid to. Do you understand? I get paid to train. I enjoy it. I love it. You know, I can't get enough of it. I can't. It's difficult to get enough of it. I love it in the gym every day.

[Piers Morgan]

A lot of people think, they look at your career and they think, yeah, you've lost 13 times. But actually recently, you're on a pretty rich vein of form, that you're improving like a fine wine.

[Derek Chisora]

I am that fine wine.

[Piers Morgan]

How do you feel about that?

[Derek Chisora]

I am that fine wine. I'm that Bordeaux you drink yourself of France.

[Piers Morgan]

I love it.

[Derek Chisora]

Yeah. You know, I am that fine wine, you know? Yes. I'm on a good run. That's why. The reason why I'm on good run is because I gave myself to the Lord, you know, Born again, you know, I'm doing very well. I respect everybody.

[Piers Morgan]

When did you do that?

[Derek Chisora]

I don't know. When I stopped drinking. I've been sober now for eight years.

[Piers Morgan]

And you turn to God, then turn

[Derek Chisora]

to God, then smoke cigars like yourself Sometimes huff and puff.

[Piers Morgan]

Do you mean do you miss the drinking or not?

[Derek Chisora]

I don't miss it at all. Nothing. I don't miss none of that.

[Piers Morgan]

What was it that made you just go, I'm done.

[Derek Chisora]

It was a fight in Monaco. I lost to Caballe. But I was happy. You know, when you look at something, you look at it like, you know, what was I meant to lose that fight? And at a second I was like, you know what? Maybe this will show me a new light. I came back here in London. I had a massive fight. And then he killed somebody, went to court, you know, did some stuff and then came out. And then my mom goes, this is how you want to be remembered? I'm like, what do you mean? Because she bought book out for me. Like all the. All the funds I've paid people, I've paid money. And it's calculated. I'm like, wow.

[Piers Morgan]

Really?

[Derek Chisora]

Yeah. And she goes, something has to change something because you're just making money and giving money away because you're beating, having fuss with people and you have to pay fines. And then that day, I just. That was it. I just. It was the end of the year. Had my last hour drinking, you know, and then that was it. Born again. Don't drink alcohol.

[Piers Morgan]

Eight years now that takes great self discipline.

[Deontay Wilder]

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[Derek Chisora]

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[Deontay Wilder]

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[Derek Chisora]

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[Deontay Wilder]

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[Derek Chisora]

Yes, you have to be disciplined at the same time. I will not quit. I will not. I didn't want to retire from boxing. When people tell me it's time for you to retire and I said, no, I'm going to carry on, People are like, why? Why? I'm like, why should I not? Because you got a weak heart and a weak mind. So I should live boxing because you can't do what I do now? Yeah. So why carried on.

[Piers Morgan]

You're agreeing with that, Jontan?

[Deontay Wilder]

Most definitely. I mean, you don't know what it is or what a fighter have to go through. Like I keep saying, a warrior, when a warrior have a warrior mentality. It's just different. You know, you casual people, you know, you look at something and boxing, sitting in your seats, whether you in the stands or where you close up, and you see certain things and you don't know what it is to be in the ring because you've never been in a fight in your life. In your life, you know, or ever. Have to fight for your life. And then when you see the outcome, people, oh, you should quit. You should give up. This is. This is that, you know, who are you to judge? You know, I'm not speaking to you. I'm speaking to all that have looked at a fighter and tell them they should quit or whatever the case may be, you know, they don't know what it takes. We don't come on nobody else's job and tell them, you're not doing a good job, you ain't good at what you do.

[Piers Morgan]

Actually, people say that about me all the time.

[Deontay Wilder]

Really?

[Piers Morgan]

That's okay. I don't mind.

[Deontay Wilder]

You know, they don't do this. They don't put the hours in. They don't put the time. So like you said, the trainers say, take 10,000 hours to establish something and be great at it. You know, nobody put the hours in. The early morning runs, you know, to beat your body up, you know, to go and get physio done to your body and then to do it all over again the next day, you know, repeat over and over and over again. Nobody know what's that take? But it's quick to say, oh, you need to give up, you need to quit because you had a bad night or whatever, you know, that's why you gotta have a strong mind within yourself.

[Piers Morgan]

Do you ever get like. I don't know if you put yourself in this position, but do you ever go out and some big lump wants to come and fight you?

[Deontay Wilder]

I never had it happen, really. You know, thank God, you know, I'm a different man in this street.

[Piers Morgan]

Lennox told me that when he used to go out in New York, he used to go up to Harlem and places, and the biggest guy in the club would come and try it on. I said to him, well, what happened? He went. He said, dude, what do you think happened? I was a heavyweight champion of the world.

[Deontay Wilder]

It's different with me, you know, my energy don't possess that. When I go places, I come with love. My energies come with love, you know.

[Derek Chisora]

Oh, bro, leave the love alone for now, bro, please, please.

[Deontay Wilder]

But it's true.

[Derek Chisora]

For fuck's sake, man. Leave the love alone, bro.

[Deontay Wilder]

It's true. It's true. Now, as a fighter, if you go into establishment and you bring that, you

[Derek Chisora]

got you the love up in here,

[Deontay Wilder]

and you bringing that, people gonna react to it. At least for me, my experience, I don't know how it is or anybody else, but when I come the enemy, the energy that I display is what carries throughout, you know, I'VE been around some of the most toughest, some of the hardest gang leaders and stuff. And when I come in, because of how my energy is, it reciprocates from other people. So they come and they see me hugging and hugging on guys. You know what I'm saying? I love you, bro. This and it. The whole atmosphere is like that. I never been in an establishment full of men or whatever, or it can be a mixture of men and women where I had to come out there and had to fight anyone or whatever. It's always been the opposite. They have always wanted to protect me or they invited me over to the table, or that's even in any country.

[Piers Morgan]

He's not having any of this.

[Deontay Wilder]

I mean, his life could be different than mine. I'm just telling you my story.

[Piers Morgan]

I get it. I get it. I respect it. Why are you laughing at this?

[Derek Chisora]

I'm not laughing. I'm listening myself.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, what's funny?

[Derek Chisora]

He's got too much love.

[Piers Morgan]

Yeah.

[Derek Chisora]

I hope you don't bring that love to the ring.

[Deontay Wilder]

They say love hurts. I'm still gonna whoop you because I love you.

[Derek Chisora]

You know what I mean?

[Deontay Wilder]

I'm still gonna whoop you because I love you, Derek.

[Piers Morgan]

Do you get into trouble when you're out or do people try and get you into trouble?

[Derek Chisora]

No, no, no, I don't get into trouble. I make trouble.

[Piers Morgan]

Right.

[Derek Chisora]

I go out looking for violence.

[Piers Morgan]

Have you had people tried on with it? Yeah. What happens?

[Derek Chisora]

I've just come out my car and tell them what time it is.

[Piers Morgan]

Really?

[Derek Chisora]

Yeah. I ain't got time for that.

[Piers Morgan]

Do you actually fight people if they tried on with it? Yeah. How often does that happen?

[Derek Chisora]

If any time I beat somebody up from going for school, even school drop offs.

[Deontay Wilder]

Because back home we popped the trunk, Right. If you can't fight, you're gonna pop the trunk.

[Derek Chisora]

Right.

[Deontay Wilder]

And it's a different thing.

[Derek Chisora]

Yeah, but it's the problem with Americans. They can't. They can't. They can't fight. They have to bring guns out. But in London, we like to scrap.

[Piers Morgan]

Really?

[Derek Chisora]

Yeah.

[Piers Morgan]

You still do that?

[Derek Chisora]

I love a scrap.

[Deontay Wilder]

Really?

[Piers Morgan]

Yeah. Well, you'll go out on this game.

[Derek Chisora]

I will go out looking for a scrap.

[Piers Morgan]

You're winding me up?

[Derek Chisora]

I swear to God. Really? You don't understand.

[Piers Morgan]

But aren't these, like, considered dangerous weapons?

[Derek Chisora]

I will go out looking for a scrap because I want one.

[Piers Morgan]

And do people try because they want a.

[Derek Chisora]

Cause they don't. It's just madness. I don't know why.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, you're just A natural fighter.

[Derek Chisora]

I just like to scrap.

[Piers Morgan]

Yeah.

[Derek Chisora]

I tell you what. One day I was having lunch with my wife, you know, and then group of guys came, suddenly. I just got up, I'm ready to swing.

[Piers Morgan]

Why?

[Derek Chisora]

My wife goes to me. They fans, they want photos.

[Piers Morgan]

Why did you want to attack them?

[Derek Chisora]

Because I like to swing.

[Piers Morgan]

Yeah, but they're perfectly innocent people.

[Derek Chisora]

I don't give a fuck.

[Piers Morgan]

Really? Yeah. Should I be getting worried?

[Derek Chisora]

If you talk shit, yeah, you might get some.

[Piers Morgan]

I don't know.

[Derek Chisora]

I'm joking. But I like, no big.

[Piers Morgan]

Honest. Don't get that threat on camera.

[Derek Chisora]

Just because I like to swing. There's no I. I go out by myself. I don't have any entourage, any bodyguards, nobody.

[Piers Morgan]

I just.

[Derek Chisora]

You. I just came today by train. Train was packed. I had two seats because I like to swing. My back was on the CPO like, you see, I like. No, you can stand up, give a fuck, but if an old lady comes, I'll give her the seat. I like to swing.

[Piers Morgan]

What do you think about this country now?

[Derek Chisora]

Oh, you smart boy. Hey, listen, I.

[Piers Morgan]

What do you really think?

[Derek Chisora]

What do I really think? I Do you want my honest opinion?

[Piers Morgan]

Yes, I do.

[Derek Chisora]

You really want my own?

[Piers Morgan]

Uncensored.

[Derek Chisora]

You're uncensored. I believe they're trying to divide us by saying there's too many Muslims and they're taking over. But really and truly it's not. It's just only the Christians lost their ways. Every problem, they always have. Oh, there's a problem with Muslims, but there's no problems. The problem is for the government. Do you understand? The only person I hate running the government is London mayor. Because right now in roads, I drive at 30 miles an hour. I have to drive them at 5 miles an hour because he's changing the. But it is what it is. Do you understand? But they're just trying to divide us, that's all Americans.

[Piers Morgan]

A lot of Americans do have this weird impression of Britain that we are literally overrun by Muslims. I'm like, have you come to this country? I mean, I walk around, I'm not overrun by anyone.

[Derek Chisora]

Exactly. You know, so we don't know. But it's the tv, but you know what? Politics in this country. Okay, you know, okay, we'll get my boy in soon.

[Piers Morgan]

Johnson, you've not been here, I think, for 13 years to the UK, is that right?

[Deontay Wilder]

I've been back and forth, you know, I come over.

[Piers Morgan]

You haven't fought here since.

[Deontay Wilder]

I haven't fought here since 2013. Yeah, but I've been back and forth.

[Piers Morgan]

What do you think of this country?

[Deontay Wilder]

I mean, they show me love and I show love back, you know. And that's just how I roll, you know, you show me respect, I'm gonna show you respect, your energy, how you come with me, I'm gonna give it the same way back, you know. And that's just how it. That's just how it is, you know, any of my brothers would tell you that, you know, I got a lot of brothers here when we come.

[Piers Morgan]

You might get a bit of a hostile reaction in the O2 on Saturday only cause you're fighting a Brit.

[Deontay Wilder]

Hey, that's understandable. But it's gonna be the same. I got a lot of fans here as well, you know, I'm gonna have a lot of people against me, but I'll have a lot of people with me as well, you know, that's gonna be here. I got a lot of people coming from America coming over as well. It's gonna be a good, it's gonna be a good fight for sure.

[Piers Morgan]

What's your view of your. Of your president?

[Deontay Wilder]

What's that?

[Piers Morgan]

What's your view of your president Trump?

[Deontay Wilder]

You know, I don't get into politics at all. I get into politics, I don't get into all that stuff. You know, the world is what it is and as the people, we can make it better, you know, we are the people, you know, without us, nothing is possible. If we come together and we make commands and demands of things, you know, we can stop. We control a lot of things, you know, but a lot of people live in fear. And when you live in fear, you always gonna be controlled, you know, so that's my thought on that.

[Piers Morgan]

He keeps laughing.

[Derek Chisora]

Cause they want me to. So they want us to show the fight. It's like we on fucking Jeremy Cox's fucking shoulders. Like we have to talk about fucking problems in politics. They say sell the fight.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, go on then. Sell.

[Derek Chisora]

How have we said it?

[Piers Morgan]

Well, go on then.

[Derek Chisora]

Maybe we beat the shit out of you. Maybe bring Tyson Fury.

[Piers Morgan]

Maybe you could try, Definitely try.

[Derek Chisora]

I mean, like, how the fuck do we settle the fight?

[Piers Morgan]

Well, why don't we suggest this? Tyson Fury's predicted that Derek Chisora is going to knock you out.

[Derek Chisora]

Hey, he's 100% right.

[Deontay Wilder]

Tell him put his money on it. Put his money where his mouth is, you know, that's with anybody else. They have an opinion.

[Piers Morgan]

Is there any chance this guy knocks you out?

[Deontay Wilder]

It's a possibility. All things can happen, but I don't see it that Way. You know, a healed Wilder is a dangerous Wilder. I'm backing them better, baby, you understand me? The way I move, the way I talk, the way I feel is different when you at the bottom. Ain't nobody down there and there's only one place to go. It's back to the top. When you climb, you know, God has been good to me. And I always say, Jesus Christ, son of God, come into me. And when I allow the Holy Ghost to come into me, I have no fear. No fear lives around me or in me. So when I come into the arena, I'm not afraid. I'm not scared of nothing. I don't care who's coming. I don't care about Derek coming. I want him to come. I want all the. The pressure that he's gonna bring. I want all the power, all the overhand rights, all the awkwardness that he's gonna bring. That's what's gonna make a great fight.

[Piers Morgan]

Where do you think he's weak in the ring?

[Deontay Wilder]

Why would I tell him here? So he can go work on his weakness?

[Piers Morgan]

Well, he hasn't got much time. He's only got five days.

[Deontay Wilder]

You know, we got 24. He's still got 24 hours in a day. That's enough time for anything. You know, we have enough time to do a lot of things. It's just like when we say we're old, you ain't. Oh, you're getting older. We have enough time to do a lot of things in this world. We have enough time to change the world. You know what I'm saying? So if you have a mindset, you don't have enough time, then, you know, it's over.

[Piers Morgan]

With Derek, life can throw, like, weird, random curveballs at any moment. Right. I'm thinking of Anthony Joshua and the terrible crash that he had that his two great friends died in. I'm thinking of Tiger Woods a few days ago.

[Derek Chisora]

Tiger Woods. That's his own problem.

[Deontay Wilder]

Right?

[Piers Morgan]

Yeah, no, of course.

[Derek Chisora]

Listen, I'm not without kind of money. You get a driver and you can go out drinking.

[Piers Morgan]

Of course, of course. And everyone can be judgmental about it and in any way. My point being, you never know when you can control perhaps your potential recurve ball. You never know in life, Right?

[Derek Chisora]

Yeah.

[Piers Morgan]

Anything can happen. What is. As you've got a bit old, as you've hit your 40s, as you're contemplating retirement, what do you feel about. What do you want to achieve with your life, mate?

[Derek Chisora]

My biggest achievement. I want to do. I want to walk my Kids down the aisle. That is the best thing ever.

[Piers Morgan]

How many do you have?

[Derek Chisora]

I got three. I got two girls and a boy. I want walk my kids down the aisle as a dad and give the dad's speech. A shitty one, but a good one for me.

[Piers Morgan]

I would actually pay good money to hear you do a father of the

[Derek Chisora]

bride to do that. I want to do that with my girls, you know, so I can hang out with my grandkids, you know? You know, because that's what I want to achieve, you know, raise my kids to be better people in life and anything else is just a bonus.

[Piers Morgan]

And if your son wanted to be a boxer, what would you feel?

[Derek Chisora]

I would be like, yes. Really? Yeah.

[Piers Morgan]

Because even with all the relative, that's just boxing.

[Derek Chisora]

Boxing is full of scumbags. That's how. That's why we love the sport. Because everybody in there is a scumbag. Even him is in scumbag. Yeah. This is why we love it. We love the dodginess of it, everything about it.

[Piers Morgan]

You know, the weird thing is I've interviewed a lot of boxers. You're not. I mean, compared to Hollywood, you're not even at first base of scumbags. There's an honesty about boxers, which I really like.

[Derek Chisora]

No, no. But behind the scenes, there's some, of

[Piers Morgan]

course, a lot of skullduggery, but actual boxers themselves, when I compare you to, say, movie stars. Right. There's an honesty about what you guys do.

[Derek Chisora]

Oh, yeah. Because end of the day, we just want to win. And when we win, it's all hugs and kisses.

[Piers Morgan]

Johnson, Love away from me right now. Trying to tell pay per view.

[Derek Chisora]

Keep the love away from me.

[Piers Morgan]

What the.

[Derek Chisora]

That you smoke before you come here?

[Piers Morgan]

Let me tell you what I think the idea of you getting me in the ring and pasting me will be what sells.

[Derek Chisora]

Oh, Jesus Christ.

[Piers Morgan]

Deontay, you've got seven children, like you said.

[Deontay Wilder]

Yeah.

[Piers Morgan]

One is your daughter. N. I think it's Naia, who was born with spina bifida, which is obviously a very serious condition. What impact has that had on your. On your life and your feelings as a father?

[Deontay Wilder]

It had a strong impact on my life because I chose to keep her. Her mother didn't, you know, her mother. Her mother tried to set me up, you know, to have the baby. You know, she ejected my sperm and her. And ran in the bathroom and locked the door and that's how we had her.

[Piers Morgan]

Really?

[Deontay Wilder]

Yeah. You know, truth be told, she don't even know I know this.

[Piers Morgan]

Wow.

[Deontay Wilder]

But I'm telling It on to the world.

[Piers Morgan]

How do you know that?

[Deontay Wilder]

I'm smart. You know, when we was having sex, you know, I used to. When I came, I used to come on her stomach. You know, I used to fold my towel nicely by the bed because I would want to wipe it off of her stomach. This particular time, she chose that she wanted to have a baby by me because I was the best thing that ever came into her life. Most of her relationships only last for two months or whatever because she. She was a promiscuous woman. I didn't know it at the time. I only found out this thing by reading her journal. She didn't know I read her journal either, you know, so during that time, I did what I do. I had a good nut and I nutted on her stomach. This time I went and got the towel and tried to wipe it off. She hit my hand so hard, I thought she hit my hand like a home run, like a baseball player do a baseball bat. But she screamed no, as if she was being raped. She got up so quickly and ran into the bathroom and locked the door. Two weeks later, you know, she liked to go clubbing and drinking with her girls and stuff. Okay, cool. But this particular moment in time, she knew she was pregnant. So she was pregnant with my daughter. But she didn't do all the right things to, you know, take her prenatal vitamins and things. The nutrients and the minerals that needed for my daughter to stay healthy. You know, she just was worried about this child having my child. But my child ended up with spina bifida. So going into the doctor's office, we had an opportunity to terminate the pregnancy. But it was just something in my heart. I just wanted. I just felt like she deserved to live. I wanted to take up on this opportunity of taking care of a girl that was born with spina bifida, a child that's in need. She needed me as I needed her. Her mother had no remorse, had no feelings about it, because she didn't even think I was going to make the decision that I made. We were still in college, so she probably thought that I was going to terminate the pregnancy so she can attempt to trap me again. You understand me? So when I dedicated myself to having my child, that was it, you know, that was my whole life. That was everything, you know? So from that point, I knew I couldn't go to school to be a professional athlete or anything like that. I had to dedicate everything to my daughter. I knew that school wasn't an option for me to Be a professional. But I was in the school of hard knocks. I never looked for trouble, but trouble always came my way. So I've always had to handle myself street wise, no matter what. You know, there's so many stories about me that I forgot that it even happened. People have to remind me sometimes. And I don't even remember that's how many wars I've been in since a boy. So when I hear about certain things, I keep my mouth closed because sometimes I have a faint memory of certain things I've done. So much, I'd have been in so many fights, I don't even want to bring it up. Sometimes it gives you ptsd. That's why I say when I come from how I was raised and stuff like. Although I was raised under a good family. But that don't mean, you know, that the devil is not here to intervene upon your father's prayers, upon your mother's prayers or your grandma's prayers. Because the devil is listening too. And he's gonna come in and disturb as well. So I had many people to try to come and try to harm me.

[Piers Morgan]

Where does your daughter live now?

[Deontay Wilder]

She lived with me.

[Piers Morgan]

And has done ever since?

[Deontay Wilder]

Oh, most definitely. And her life has been better ever since coming.

[Piers Morgan]

And do you have any contact with the mother?

[Deontay Wilder]

Never. I blocked her. I don't want contact. Why?

[Piers Morgan]

Does your daughter ever see her?

[Deontay Wilder]

I have three deadbeat mothers on my hand. You know, I had a vision I would have all my children. And God is so beautiful, he's so great. You understand me? I don't go and bastard mothers though. I don't go and do that. I don't use my platform or certain things to say this and say that. I let life does what it gonna do, you know what I mean? I'm a beautiful father. You understand me? I love my children to death. When a father, when you have a father's love in the household, the success rate is through the roof, through the sky. You know, I've been through all that where they didn't want me to see my kids, where I had to take the milk and the pampers and knock on the is there and try to make me a deadbeat. But that wasn't in me. I can't. You know what I mean? I love my children too much to let them living in this world without a father. I've been through all that. So I always promote fathers. Take care of your children no more.

[Piers Morgan]

When you hear Derek talking about a dream of walking his daughters down the aisle, do you think that will ever be possible with my daughter?

[Deontay Wilder]

Almost definitely. Doctor says she would never be able to walk or never have a natural childhood ability or learning. But if God has something for you, then it ain't nothing that nobody can say. He is the doctor in the sick room. He is the best friend behind the bed. He is all things. So now, you know, my daughter is 21, she just got her license, she's about to have a job as well. She got her own home, you know what I mean? What more to say? It's a beautiful thing.

[Piers Morgan]

It's a great story.

[Deontay Wilder]

It's a beautiful thing, you know, one day this story will, you know, be told and the movie probably will be presented as well. You know, how a father loves for a spina bifida girl and what he did to risk his life to save a life come to pass, you know, been many narratives painted of me put up on me, you know what I mean? And for what reason? I don't know why, you know, because people use a perspective of what they may see on TV or certain things and oh, he maybe the color of my skin, you know what I mean? They may already project certain things upon me, but I don't put every fire that's trying to be built of me. My solace is golden and that's what I use. I got a big platform that I could use and go and do, but that's just not of me. I don't do those things. I'm not knocking those that use it because I say, yo, defend yourself. But my silence is golden, you know,

[Piers Morgan]

I think it's an amazing story. I didn't know the half of that, you know, I didn't not expect you to.

[Deontay Wilder]

I got three deadbeat mothers on my hand. But I only say, why you do the children like this? Because I'm no longer in your life and the life is not like it used to be. But don't, don't, don't, don't prosecute my child. Don't allow them to sit around and have to be in between of these things. Even with my ex wife, that's my best friend. My ex wife is my best friend, you know, because co parenting is a relationship and we know how to do that very well and we teach the other kids how to do that. Even with my girlfriend. We all go to trips, we all hang out together, we all do things together and stuff like that because we understand the objective and that's to make sure these kids.

[Piers Morgan]

I have an idea for you. Get out of boxing and go and Do a reality show. The wildest.

[Deontay Wilder]

Maybe we can get those seven more, have 14 of them.

[Piers Morgan]

I'll produce it.

[Deontay Wilder]

The wildest.

[Piers Morgan]

We'll do it as an uncensored series.

[Deontay Wilder]

Yeah, man.

[Piers Morgan]

Derek, I know what you're thinking. Huh? You want to sell your fight. I'm telling you. Let me just tell you something. This is actually a very cool way to sell your fight. You know why? Because it's revealing stuff about your personalities which people didn't really realize.

[Derek Chisora]

You know? This is what I say to you. This game is full of scumbags. Yeah. Because I got scam bags on this side here. Yeah. Sending me messages. I'm like, because spice it up. You spice it up. I'm like, what's there to spice it up?

[Deontay Wilder]

You know?

[Derek Chisora]

They're a bunch of scumbags. Do you understand? Yeah. So when you're dealing with scumbags, it's

[Piers Morgan]

quite different because I think this has been a great interview with you guys.

[Derek Chisora]

Do you think so?

[Piers Morgan]

Yeah. And you're gonna do 20 other media appearances where you'll just tick the boxes of saying shit to sell your show. All right? Whereas I think I'll be honest with you, I think I've peeled back layers about. You're different ways shit to talk about.

[Derek Chisora]

What I'm just saying to people is, don't sit down. The fight's gonna be amazing. Yeah. There's no. There's no like, oh, I have to strangle him. Oh, this. I can't. But the fight is gonna be an amazing fight. The way we've trained for this fight is unbelievable for me. Yeah.

[Piers Morgan]

Well, give me a prediction. Do you.

[Derek Chisora]

Okay. Do you think I want to get knocked out in my own hometown?

[Piers Morgan]

No.

[Derek Chisora]

In front of 18,000 people?

[Piers Morgan]

No. But I don't think he does either.

[Derek Chisora]

Exactly. So what do you think is gonna happen then?

[Piers Morgan]

I think the war and the bronze bomber are going to probably tear it up.

[Derek Chisora]

Exactly.

[Piers Morgan]

Yeah.

[Derek Chisora]

Yeah.

[Piers Morgan]

And plus, if we over hype it

[Derek Chisora]

to me and to make it more sweet enough. Yeah. And this guy don't go to any shows. Yeah. This guy, he never goes to any show, but he's coming.

[Piers Morgan]

Who is?

[Derek Chisora]

Anthony coming. Anthony said he's coming.

[Piers Morgan]

Anthony Joshua. Yeah.

[Derek Chisora]

He don't go to no shows. But if he say he's coming now, you have to, like, you know, turn around.

[Piers Morgan]

Who does he think is going to win?

[Derek Chisora]

I don't know.

[Deontay Wilder]

I mean, people know this is gonna be an amazing fight. This is gonna be a war. You understand me? We train day in and day out to prepare our body Mentally and physically, emotionally, for one night, one fight, you know, and you gotta be a fool to think I'm coming all the way from America and not to come and show up and show out. You gotta be a fool to think that he's in his own time, he's not gonna come and be the best that he's ever had. Like I said, the heel wild is one of the best. Wild as ever. You know, before three or four years, I was getting myself back together, you know, I was convincing myself that I'd be okay. But I didn't have enough time. It wasn't enough time to get myself together. But now it's over.

[Piers Morgan]

And if you do win, what's your message?

[Deontay Wilder]

When I win?

[Derek Chisora]

Deja vu.

[Deontay Wilder]

Win. I win.

[Piers Morgan]

Win at the conclusion of your. At the conclusion of your fight, what would your message be to Tyson Fury if he's watching this?

[Deontay Wilder]

I mean, it ain't just to him, it's the whole heavyweight division. I'm gonna put them back on notice to let them know I'm here. They can call me Mr. Cleen because I'm here to clean up the whole division. Look how boring it is now. I brought boxing back single handedly, you know. Of course I had some bodies I need to lay down and get things back going. But here I am, yet again to do it all over again. And what great opponent to have in front of me, Derek Wartasora. And I can't wait. Cause I can't wait for this war. There's a lot of wars going on. But it's gonna win. April 4th at the'02 arena, baby. You don't wanna be late and you don't wanna miss this one. Ha. You don't wanna miss it, Derek. Yeah, and I'm gonna put my stamp

[Derek Chisora]

on that one too.

[Piers Morgan]

Yeah. Derek, what's your final rallying cry? To the nation or to the world?

[Derek Chisora]

To the world.

[Deontay Wilder]

Yeah.

[Piers Morgan]

Give them what they want. Sell it, baby.

[Derek Chisora]

I can't flip this table, can I? I can't. Listen, tune in. It's gonna be amazing. It's gonna be great.

[Piers Morgan]

May the best man win. It's been great meeting you both.

[Derek Chisora]

Thank you.

[Piers Morgan]

And talking to you properly.

[Deontay Wilder]

Thank you.

[Piers Morgan]

You don't have to throw things around to make points.

[Derek Chisora]

That scumbag up there, the bold guy wants that.

[Piers Morgan]

Of course, he wants you to start whacking each other.

[Derek Chisora]

The One with the Cronk T shirt

[Piers Morgan]

on, it's on the zone on Saturday night. I will be tuning in.

[Derek Chisora]

Don't you want to come?

[Piers Morgan]

No, because I like you both too much. I don't want to see one of you lose.

[Derek Chisora]

Oh, by the way, because it's too long for you. Because you got a new hip. That's why.

[Piers Morgan]

Actually, that's actually not far off. Guys, thank you both very much for your time. Thank you. I appreciate it. I'll send. I'm having dinner with Simon Jordan tomorrow. I'll send you the best. Yeah.

[Deontay Wilder]

Oh, that guy. Who's paying? Who's paying?

[Piers Morgan]

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[Deontay Wilder]

Quick break.

[Derek Chisora]

One useful thing to share.

[Deontay Wilder]

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[Piers Morgan]

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[Deontay Wilder]

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[Piers Morgan]

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[Deontay Wilder]

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