Piers Morgan Uncensored – Piers Morgan vs. Nick Fuentes (‘What a CROCK of S***!’)

Episode Date: December 8, 2025
Host: Piers Morgan
Guest: Nick Fuentes

Episode Overview

This lengthy and combative interview places right-wing internet personality Nick Fuentes in the hot seat, with Piers Morgan aiming to challenge Fuentes on his self-described “racist” and controversial views, growing influence among young men, and the wider implications for American conservative politics. The conversation relentlessly confronts Fuentes on his most inflammatory positions—race, anti-Semitism, misogyny, and historical revisionism—largely by replaying Fuentes’s own clips and demanding clarification or accountability.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Fuentes’s Public Persona and Intentions

• Dual Personas Allegation (04:24–06:23):
  Piers confronts Fuentes with criticism (from Coleman Hughes) that he purposely moderates his tone on mainstream platforms while being far more extreme on his own show.

  • Fuentes: Admits two personas exist, says on his own livestream he’s hyperbolic and jokes for a smaller group, but claims he will “clarify” beliefs when questioned directly.
  • Quote: “There is a belief that you have two personas... do you admit that’s the case?” — Piers (03:58).
    “That’s right about the two personas... [my show] is hyperbolic... but in interviews, I clarify.” — Fuentes (05:13)

• Political Ambitions (06:23–06:44):
  Claims to have no real aspirations for elected office, instead branding himself a “truth-teller” (06:27).

2. Background and Upbringing

• Family History and ‘Product of Environment’ (06:44–11:54):
  Fuentes details his suburban Chicago upbringing, mixed heritage (Italian, Irish, Mexican), and family-focused roots. He draws explicit lines between his family’s assimilation and what he calls modern “invasion”-level immigration.
  • Quote: “Up until 1965, 90% of the immigrants were coming from Europe. I have no problem with that. But... now... [immigrants are transforming America].” — Fuentes (12:12)

3. Racism, Race Relations, and Crime

• Parental Racism and Anecdotes (13:13–21:12):
  Piers scrutinizes a story Fuentes shared about his father choosing restaurants based on stereotypes, pressing on family racism.

  • Fuentes: Defends parents, calling story “jest,” but extends on negative perceptions of Black Chicagoans, claiming they arise from personal experience and city violence.

• Explicit Racism and Avoidance Advocacy (26:24–34:01):
  Fuentes, with little pushback, calls himself a racist and encourages whites to avoid Black people, justifying this on the basis of crime statistics he supplies but are challenged.

  • Quote: “I’m a new generation of white person. I’m not living around blacks. Sorry.” — Fuentes (26:30)
  • Piers: “So, you’re basically saying, yeah, I’m a racist, aren’t you?” (27:02)
  • Fuentes: “Yeah, yeah, I’m fine with that.” (27:02)

• Selective Focus on Crime (34:01–41:48):
  Piers challenges Fuentes’s data, pointing out the hypocrisy in only caring about Black-on-white crime and ignoring white mass shooters. Fuentes maintains his “proportionality” argument, even as Morgan’s fact checks contradict Fuentes’s figures.

• Racial Realism and Tribalism Claims (42:08–45:26):
  Fuentes claims preference for his own group is normal and “tribal.” When pointing out Fuentes’s own mixed heritage, he distinguishes between levels of “whiteness” in Hispanic identity.

4. Anti-Semitism and the Holocaust

• Opposition to ‘World Jewry’ and Holocaust Discourse (52:41–67:53):

  • Draws a distinction between Jews as individuals (claims to have Jewish friends) and “world Jewry” as an organized transnational entity.
  • Denies hating Jews, but repeats longstanding anti-Semitic tropes about Jewish influence and antagonism.
  • Holocaust: While past statements suggest denial or minimization, Fuentes, when pressed, says he now accepts the 6 million figure (“possibly more”), but pivots to criticism of European Holocaust denial laws and censored debate.
  • Quote: “No, I said it could be. It could even be higher than [6 million].” — Fuentes (64:52)
  • Piers: “You have built a reputation for being, if not a Holocaust denier, then somebody constantly questioning in a downward way the number of Jews who were murdered. That doesn’t appear to be what your position is now.” (67:34)

• On Admiring Hitler (69:59–79:18):
  Piers plays a clip of Fuentes calling Hitler “really fucking cool.” Fuentes refuses to apologize, calling the interest in Hitler “iconoclastic” and mocking survivor accounts.

  • Quote: “He was also really fucking cool.” — Fuentes (70:19)
  • Piers: “There’s nothing very fucking cool about Hitler...” (74:32)

5. Misogyny, Inceldom, and Women’s Rights

• Marriage, Sex, and Misogyny (83:42–91:48):

  • Vocal about disdain for modern women; admits he’s never had sex (“absolutely not”), claims most women get “ugly” and “fat.”
  • Quote: “All women are annoying. All women grow old. They all get fat. Says the guy. Have you ever had sex?” — Piers (86:52)
  • Fuentes: “No. Absolutely not.” (87:01)

• Women’s Rights and Voting (86:29–99:08):

  • Opposes women’s suffrage, says biblical doctrine supports “no authority over men.”
  • When Piers asks if the Catholic Church agrees, Fuentes responds, “I think so, yeah. But I’m not positive.” (99:21)

6. Influence, Conservative Politics, and the Right

• Trump, MAGA, and the Alt-Right (94:45–101:00):

  • Details split with Trump and disappointment in MAGA, accuses the right of “performative cruelty,” and discusses the grooming of J.D. Vance as successor.
  • Denies being a “white supremacist:” “No. I’m a Christian, so I believe everybody is equal before God.” (98:14)

• Attacks on Conservative Figures (102:06–107:13):

  • Criticizes Tucker Carlson post-interview as “two-faced.”
  • Recent feud with Candace Owens over supposed set-up interview.
  • Candid response to the assassination of Charlie Kirk: “Beside myself... [it] was devastating. I didn’t like Charlie Kirk at all... but [I] was emotionally affected by it.” (106:09)

• January 6th and Election Denial (107:59–113:26):

  • Footage of Fuentes inciting January 6 rioters aired; he stands by “disregard the police,” blames “rigged” election, stands by his rhetoric but now slightly moderates stance on Trump’s loss (“I agree about the voting systems, [accusations] were ridiculous”).

Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• Admission and Rationalization of Racism
  “Yeah, yeah, I’m fine with that.” — Fuentes, openly embracing label “racist” (27:02)

• On Avoiding Black People
  “White people are every single bit justified in being racist... to the extent that that means going out of your way to avoid black people when you see them.” — Fuentes (31:14)

• On Holocaust Deaths
  “I don’t know. I’m thinking maybe 7 million. What’s the number? 7, 6 million, something like that. 8 million.” — Fuentes (61:43)
  followed by
  “No, I said it could be. It could even be higher than [6 million].” (64:52)

• On Hitler
  “He was also really fucking cool. So, you know, time to grow up. We’re not children anymore.” — Fuentes (70:19)

• On Women and Misogyny
  “Women need to shut the fuck up.” — Fuentes, played by Piers (21:41)
  “All women are annoying. All women grow old. They all get fat. … Have you ever had sex?”
  “No. Absolutely not.” — Fuentes (86:53–87:01)

• On Remaining Unapologetic
  “I'm an iconoclast. The Holocaust is not my religion.” — Fuentes (80:24)

• Reflecting on the Interview
  “I think it was great. Honestly. I think it was a tough interview. … I will not say it was an ambush, because it wasn’t.” — Fuentes (119:09)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00–04:44: Piers sets context; dual personas criticism; Fuentes responds
• 06:44–11:54: Fuentes’s upbringing, parents’ heritage, views on immigration
• 13:13–21:12: Piers challenges family anecdotes on racism; Fuentes responds
• 21:41–34:01: Explicit quotes about Jews/Blacks/Women; racism discourse
• 41:48–47:10: “Tribalism”, preference for own group; fact-checking on crime
• 52:41–67:53: World Jewry, Holocaust views, anti-Semitism
• 69:59–79:18: On Hitler admiration, survivor testimony dismissed
• 83:42–91:48: Women, inceldom, suffrage, never had sex
• 94:45–101:00: Trump, JD Vance, politics of the new right
• 107:59–113:26: January 6th, election denial, personal security
• 116:03–117:48: On using racial slurs (“jeet”) in reference to Vance’s wife
• 119:09–122:15: Final reflections and wrap-up

Tone and Language

Piers Morgan sustains an exasperated, at times incredulous, but unrelentingly direct approach. He often reads back Fuentes's own words, pressing for clarity and accountability, and appeals to commonsense morality or historical truth. Fuentes, in turn, frequently adopts a provocative, dismissive, or sarcastic tone—oscillating between deflections (“it was a joke”), outright admissions (“I’m a racist”), and attempts to frame his views as realistic or necessary.

Conclusion

This episode is unflinching: Morgan peels back every layer of Fuentes’s public persona, forcing commitments on race, gender, and history that clarify just how radical Fuentes's beliefs really are, while also exposing the rhetorical tactics (distance, “joke,” shift blame) he uses to maintain plausible deniability. For anyone unfamiliar with Nick Fuentes, this is both a revealing and disturbing window into a brand of Gen Z extremism currently influencing segments of the American right.

For Further Listening

• Recommended: Listen to the clips cited at the noted timestamps for direct experience of both the language and the provocative quality of the exchange.
• Caution: Content includes explicit language, racist and misogynistic views, Holocaust revisionism, and dismissive remarks about mass violence. Listener discretion is advised.