Transcript
A (0:02)
Hey, welcome to pintalk, the go to podcast for all things Pinterest for bloggers and content creators. I'm Tony Hill, and with me is my co host, Carly Campbell. So what are we talking about today, Carly?
B (0:13)
We are going to try and answer one of the most popular questions that we get all the time. How many pins per day should you be pinning?
A (0:23)
Yeah, that's definitely a popular question I get. And. And gosh, I wish there was a really simple answer. We're gonna do our best here to try to give a simple answer, but there's a lot of, like, it depends type of answers here. So our goal here is to give you some background information about, you know, pinning and how many pins per day and what that's looked like on the platform over the years here, and then just some questions to ask yourself or things to think about, and hopefully a framework of trying to figure out how many pins per day should you be pinning? Because it's a kind of an individual thing, I would say.
B (0:59)
Yeah, I think that it's one of the hardest questions to answer because there's so many factors that go into it, and people don't expect there to be this many factors that go into the answer to this question. They expect a straightforward answer. You should be pinning five pins a day. You should be pinning 10 pins a day. You should be Pinning 15. I heard that you're pinning X number of pins a day, so I should be doing that. But that's not how this works.
A (1:25)
Nope, it's not. So can you give us a brief history of pinning when it comes to volume? Because. Right. Volume pinning, it's been talked about a lot. I brought it up earlier this year once people learned some of my strategy of Pinterest and how I'm creating so many pins every single day, it just became another popular topic again for a little while. So you've got a good history of a platform and how things have changed over the years. You want to fill us in a little bit in this context of volume pinning?
B (1:58)
Yeah. So without getting too far into the weeds on it, the important things to know is that Prior to early 2016, Pinterest had a live time feed, and you would pin and that pin would go to your followers. So followers mattered a ton at the time, too. If there was a thousand people following you, you'd pin and whoever was online scrolling would see the pin. At least that's how I understand it. And so obviously, it became kind of necessary to pin your best pins or even your new pins more and more. And More often, because if you were on Pinterest at 8am and you saw my pin, you might not be on Pinterest at 10pm you might not see my pin. So we were pinning these pins all the time. Pinterest turned that off overnight. It was like their first real big algorithm change, the live feed into the algorithm that. That was the earliest iteration of the algorithm that exists now, where they started recommending pins based on relationship to other pins, rather than just as something that the creator that you followed was creating. That was like the first Pinterest Armageddon where bloggers just left Pinterest left and right because they could not figure out how to regain all this traffic that they had lost. Pinterest had been so easy before that because it was literally a matter of just feeding the people who are following you your pins. And so there were people pinning hundreds and hundreds of pins a day at that point. When the algorithm changed, there was no conversation around how much you should be pinning. We were already pinning a lot. It makes sense to keep pinning a lot because that worked right away for some people. That wasn't working right away for some people, that was working because there hadn't been any guidance given at that point about it. And that is the time period where I first created my course. And I was definitely doing volume pinning. If we define volume pinning as like over 50 pins a day, let's, let's. I don't. That's maybe like a. That's maybe an extreme. Some people would call volume pinning like a hundred pins a day or more. I was absolutely doing a hundred pins a day or more at the time that I found Pinterest success and created my course. Tools came out to help people with this volume pinning because we needed to be pinning so many pins all the time. Board Booster and Tailwind were some of the most popular ones. Tailwind is still around, but even they don't recommend really high volume pinning anymore. And that is because in about, I think it might have been 2018, 2019, people just started to see their traffic drop. Nobody could quite understand what it was pinning. More and more and more pins didn't help. People were getting really frustrated. And Tailwind did a live with Pinterest and in the live with Pinterest, Pinterest made it really clear that I don't think in that live they actually addressed a number of pins per day, but they made it really clear that they didn't want to see us repinning our same old pins over and over and over again. That we didn't need to have repetitive content. So repetitive content was specifically the thing that Pinterest called out as a detriment at that time. And to this day, if you look in their, like, community guidelines under spam, there is not very much given as to guidance about how many pins per day you should be pinning. There's three things that Pinterest lists that you shouldn't be pinning as far as, like, I think could be related to volume, and that is repetition, irrelevancy, which is, you know, repetition under a different name. I think, although the image could be different with irrelevancy, so we could talk about that too. And actually the other one is deceptive, so that actually doesn't relate to volume. But we knew we couldn't pin repetitively, so people started making. We were still going for volume. We started making 50 of the similar idea. So before we might have been pinning the same hundred identical pins, we started tweaking the pins, giving them a border. And I still do this to an extent, but it was happening at volume back then. I think that's where you get the word irrelevant from.
