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Foreign.
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How are you doing?
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I'm good. How are you?
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I'm excellent.
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Thanks for coming on today.
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Thanks for having me.
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We met at the, at a gala where we were all fancied up and we, we had a very interesting conversation and I just learning what you do for a living is fascinating and I just didn't feel that the gala was the best place to talk about some of the things that you have seen. And for those of us who are just joining, of course are just joining because we just started but Christy Hudson is the founder and president of Women Fighting for America. The organization was founded in 2020 and promotes constitutional education which I think we all could use a little bit of that faith based engagement and national security awareness. Now one of the cool things about you are a very interesting job is that you lead field operations that observe and document conditions along the southern border and then you share your findings with the media, your media partners, community leaders and law enforcement contacts. Your national security. You got a lot of titles. This is cool. She is a national security and geopolitical expert who has conducted high risk border work, gathered intelligence, supports efforts to expose cartel operations and rescue trafficking victims. So just based off your resume, you have had a busy week because a little bit, because literally everything that's going on in the world today is in your lane. I mean the biggest I wanted to talk about was what people don't really see or understand when we, when you hear we use certain words and when the media says a word, they say it so much that it loses its effectiveness. We saw that with, we see that with racism and you're racist and using the term Hitler to describe someone you disagree with. But when they say border crisis, it a lot of Americans at this point are like, well what does that mean? They're already here. But like you see the day to day things that the media refuses to report.
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Yeah, you're correct. Especially in the journey from 2020 to even now, even after you know, Trump got into office and he actually activated the laws by the way that Congress had already passed on the books. We Biden's administration just simply was not upholding the laws. And you know, everyone politically likes to point blames and it doesn't matter Tyrus, as you know, if you're, I don't care which side of the fence you fall on. We have laws. This a country of laws and when those laws that were by the way passed by Congress. So if you don't like the laws, then get Congress to change those laws.
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Right.
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This executive branch is just upholding those laws. And with the open borders for the last under Biden's administration, the atrocities, not just from a humanitarian perspective, but also from a national security perspective, have really eroded the foundation of this nation. And, and it's quite appalling when I see politicians who really haven't been down to the border, right, who saw the bodies, which I have. I've got pictures of dead bodies literally on my phone. Because that's what happens when you open borders. You've got trafficking, you've got children, you've got exploitation, you've got murders, you've got rapes. All of those things which I've personally witnessed and my teens have witnessed firsthand.
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What, how frustrating is it for you for when you're seeing what's actually happening on the ground and then when you flip on the TV at night hearing reports where it's just, everything's just watered down instead of just Because I think if we understood, the American people understood the great word atrocities that are happening or the cause and effects of the. Oh, I'm in Wisconsin, so this doesn't affect me. It 1000% does because the sex traffickers aren't doing drop offs in California. You know, they're not doing drop offs in just Arizona. It's all over the United States.
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It is. And you know that overuse of every, every state is a border state. It's beyond that. We have to understand the criminal activity. Cartels are definitely a transnational criminal organization, but they're also a terrorist organization. They're also linked to major terrorist organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah and others. Where you've got the cartel of the sun, which is getting a lot of attention and trende El Arago out of Venezuela. All of these organizations, they kind of. It's like an octopus, right? You've got these tentacles, you've got the head of the snake, but then you've got tentacles. And the cartels work hand in hand with the enemies of the United States, whether it's Iran, China, Russia. It is a criminal organization. Colomb, Mexico, those drug cartels, China with the fentanyl. It's all intertwined. And that was a convergence into our country. Whether it was the northern border or the southern border. The northern border, Tyrus is really one of those areas people don't talk about much, but we did a lot of operations up there too. New York state is a huge influx of Chinese and Russian militia who have come over our borders through those particular zones. So it has made our country extremely vulnerable to attacks. And it was a Force multiplier for embedded, already embedded organizations. Now, those embedded organizations have a force multiplier of more people and more equipment and more cyber technologies and things that were smuggled in under the border under Biden's administration.
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When you were. Some of the things that you were talking about and mentioning those cannot be easy things to say publicly. I mean, just, you are basically turning in not necessarily the head of the snake, but you are irritating them because you are exposing the things that they're doing every day. And for some reason, it just seems like when you say cartel and we always think, oh, you know, the Hollywood drug dealers with dirty wife beaters on, you know, sweaty and no, no, these are businessmen now. They donate to senators. They donate like they have political pull. That. And I always notice that whenever a big bust happens or a sex trafficker or drug cartel or something of that nation of that nature gets exposed, instead of the cheering across the board. The side that I think I've been using this word lately is complicit. It complicit seems to be a nice way not to get sued, but complicit. They seem very complicit to the good deeds that are being done by this administration and by people like yourself. And then they focus on the technical. Well, it wasn't lawful or it wasn't this, or it's racist to assume like they're using. Why do you think you get so much pushback for what should be an open and such? Bipartisan. Not bipartisan. It should be. Yeah, bipartisan. It should be a team. It should be a team win every time you guys save a kid or every time you stop an organization from flooding, you know, cities with drugs and stuff. But it seems like you get so much negative pushback every time you try to do something.
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Well, I'm going to say the unpopular thing. There's an agenda out there, and it goes back to after World War II. I love to study history. And when you look at the historical precedents of when we went in, In World War II, specifically, we started squashing communism. Right. And Patton had it best. There's a couple of generals who really wanted to continue the fight, and they. And they didn't continue, and they should have, but it's out of the playbook. There is an agenda out there to destabilize the United States of America because of what we stand for. And that's the document called the Constitution of the United States of America. It is an incredible, living, breathing document that has made America how great she really is. And we're kind of standing in the way. Tyrus, we are the last domino that needs to fall so they can finish the globalist agenda. And I know that this isn't conspiracy theory. This is. You can actually tangibly get and read whether it's national security reports, whether it's historical books and context, and even go back and listen to different world leaders in their own speeches themselves. And when you start plugging in and you seeing there's a pattern, right? It's a pattern recognition. And when you start looking at that, you're like, wow, what is really going on here underneath the surface? Well, that is they need to destroy the United States and we are too exceptional from a military perspective. And the only way you make a country truly fall is infiltrate it from within. And that's what you've seen. Look at what's going on in Washington D.C. how in the world, Tyrus, did we become a nation where we have people like Ilhan Omar and Rashid Tlaib who are in Congress? How do we become a nation where we allow sitting senators and representatives who are supposed to be America first have dual citizenship? That's allegiance, not to the United States of America. This is a fundamental problem. And this is why you're seeing the erosion of this nation and that rhetoric.
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You'Re talking about, you know, because that's a, that's like the double edged sword. Like the whole purpose of America is to be able to have the ability to ask questions, to have different opinions. You can, you can not like a policy, you can not like a law. You could say, I hate my president. You could love your president. That's the, that's the whole point of having the freedom of free speech. But we're seeing when it is being manipulated in terms of. That is a good. When, when do you draw the line? If you have dual citizenship, that shouldn't be like, oh, you can't be a senator in this country. But if you're citizen, if your dual citizenship really feels like 9010 and the 10 was just to get the job, because you're not, you have no point of assimilation. And we have as a society allowed reverse racism. And I hate to say reverse racism because racism is racism. But it's predominantly this new thing where you can attack anybody white in this country of any position. And regardless of where they are on the argument, if they can't get past you calling them a racist, then they're silenced. And we saw a lot of that. We see that's how the Somalians were able anytime the investigation was well, you're an oppressor and you're white. And they're like, oh, no, no, we want to back off. But it has nothing to do with the color of somebody's skin. It has everything to do with the content of their character. And what we're seeing is everyone now is this. There's this hurdle of trying to say what you want to say, but I got to be careful because I don't want anyone to think I'm anti Somalian. You know what if 95% or 85% of a population that's moved in for 10 years is still collecting Medicaid, welfare assistance and working the system, I think it's fair to say, hey, guys, what's going on here? What's going on with this particular group? Why is it, did they come to assimilate or did they come to do other things? And I'm seeing that you guys expose that. You bring up the reality of those things, and there's so much pushback. I mean, that's the most frustrating thing because everything you said, the first thing they're going to say is, it's a wacko conspiracy theory. You're just talking about the realities of what's going on on the border. When you're on the border, when you. What would it. Would you. How could you describe it? Like a typical of what you have seen? Like if you were down there in border for a week, what would be some of the things that you would see coming across the border?
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Sure. Well, under the Biden administration, when our teams would. So there's a particular sector and really quick, before we move on, I want to say those who wish to do harm to the United States or to exploit, they're going to use our own system to poke holes in that vulnerability, and they're going to use it to manipulate it for their own narrative. And that's where the dangers, that's what you're seeing in Minnesota right now play out. And that's where we have to be strong and have a backbone to say again, it doesn't matter the color of your skin. It matters. Are you upholding the law? Are you practicing the way that you should be practicing right honorable integrity and all of those things. At the border, for example, our teams would be in a particular. We would go all over the place. But one particular sector, we call it no man's land. There's no cell towers. There's no. Nothing out there. It takes us approximately an hour and a half to two and a half hours to get to these Particular locations along the Mexico Arizona border. And for example, this is heavily laid in Sinaloa cartel area. And they would literally have. And we have photographs of this and I'd love to send you some over, but they'd have 50 cows on each side of this one particular mountain and they would be protecting this corridor. This is the corridor where high value targets would be smuggled in or high value products. When I say high value targets, I'm talking about literally terrorists who would pay upwards of anywhere from 50 to $150,000 for safe passage. Because there's really no border patrol and once you. And there's no border wall. So if you can make it through this terrain and given a pathway which they would have either a mule or a coyote or somebody else on the other side waiting to pick them up to take them into the interior. And so this zone is. We have so many pictures, tyrus of massive groups of individuals from Muslim speaking countries. Our team speaks a whole bunch of different languages. These guys were ex military, highest level. And we would go in, this is very serious stuff. We would be in level, you know, our vest level, three plates. I mean going in serious. And by the way, I really want to be clear. Our team always worked hand in hand with the sheriff's departments in certain counties. They would always know we're there. Sheriff Mark Lamb, who's now running for Senate, great guy. We worked a lot of operations with him. And so we, there was nobody there to stop. One particular day we had over 157from African and Muslim nations, all men by the way, coming through our borders. We also uncovered a area where some nos were helping to facilitate them. And all of this is on videotape. We have photographs to back all of this up where they were helping to facilitate, feeding them, giving them water and then telling them and showing them not to talk to individuals and giving them a roadmap of how to evade.
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Wow, when you hear this stuff, it almost sounds Hollywood esque. Like we're supposed to be. Law enforcement is supposed to be put in position to do their job. And we saw how it was media wise, you know, everything from the poor bastards who were doing their job on their horses, they were supposedly whipping people. They weren't, you know, and then, but they had, you know, all these massive political heavyweights in the United States come out and condemn them. And Mayorka said, the President of the United States comes out Biden and says that these were racist people that need to be dealt with. I mean they ruined a good portion of those because it's not just them, it's their families, it's their communities that were just ruined. And then there's never an apology. There's never a, there was never once a moment by the administration to say, hey, we got it way wrong with our depiction. The men and women who are defending our border, they're not getting any help or any support geopolitically and then they go on TV and they get trashed. With Trump coming in that, with the new, with the Trump's administration back in, are you seeing improvements in support? Are you seeing. I mean it's a dumb question, but I have to ask because yes, the President might be saying he loves it, but then maybe boots on the ground are not getting, you know, like it might be getting lost in transition because unfortunately the corruption or complicity runs on both sides of the aisle when it comes to. Cuz I personally think that a lot of American politicians are in the pocket of these drug cartels or in of these, these trap because there's so much pushback on issues that the average person would be like who is against going after and arresting rapists, murderers and gang members. I don't see where the argument is. How can you. Does it matter how they vote? I mean it's just it. And most of them don't vote anyways. It's just ludicrous to me. Would you say conditions are a lot better on the ground for you guys now or is it still kind of getting there?
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Oh no. Conditions are night and day difference on the ground there. You know, there's so much support and I'm going to even be honest, I believe there was more support than the news media was being able to get out there to the public eye. Even during the Biden Ministry.
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Oh, 1,000%. You are 1,000%.
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We 100% outweigh the crazy left lunatics or the crazy right wing lunatics who are. Who either way, like you said, they're on both sides of the fence. And you're right about politicians who are. They're corrupt everywhere, right? Money, I always say follow the money trail. Follow, follow money is an old adage, but it's the truth. And so, but I will, I'll go even deeper. So in the security world, right, Even in the military or wherever it is you're trained, there are certain depending on what your, what your operations are going to be. So you're trained to look out for things because there' people who will always try to catch you or entrap you so they have dirt on you and I believe wholeheartedly there's so many politicians probably have a lot of dirt on them that can destroy them and their lives and their families. And that is used to get them to either vote a certain way or to do certain things that maybe when they first got into office, they wouldn't have even thought about. So we have to guard ourselves. Anybody who's running for office. And I don't care if you're the school board, if you're the president of the United States, you have to guard yourself and always have a witness around you because it stops those individuals who would exploit you and try to control you from being able to do so. And then lastly, what you said, I can tell you. So we did multiple operations and I can't get into the details, but we would get a hold of phones and we would download the data from those phones and we would be able to find out. For example, we intercepted an area in Texas where there is rape trees. These things are real. We've been there. This particular rape tree zone.
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I'm sorry, you're saying rape tree?
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Yes, like R A P E Raping rape tree.
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Okay, all right.
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Into submission and different things. So they're horrific sites. There's. The trees will have. They have shackles on them.
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They'll.
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They have ropes where they actually tie the victims down. And unfortunately, horrific acts. Then they take their bras and their panties and they'll put them up in the trees for a trophy. But it's not just a trophy. Is to show the Knicks group that's coming through. This is what we've done, and this is what's. What's going to happen to you. And you don't talk. And if they do or they fight back, unfortunately, we have found skeletons and bodies where their heads and skulls have been bashed in. This is serious stuff. And I know this is. People don't want to hear this because it's hard to digest this, but again, this isn't me just talking. I actually have the photographs and I can show these photographs. So when we would intercept these individuals, particularly in these zones where these rape trees are, those are usually already bought and sold. Right. So they're being sold into the interior of the United States to certain buyers for certain things. And we would download those. That information that we would intercept. And names would come up all over the United States where these individuals would be going to. We sent this information in a report to a couple House of Representative members, and we were assured that this would be investigated and looked into. Can tell you it Never was.
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Wow. And when. I mean it just. What is a. What would be. Because you just hear rape tree. That's just insane to hear that in the fact that. And it's not one. It's not just one rape tree in the desert. I mean, this is, this is a. This is a common practice. What. When you think about when you had a. If you could take us to two dynamics and both are not great, but like, what is a bad. What would you consider one of your worst days in terms of working the border and some of the things you've come across and, and then can you give us a win? When you were able to. Everything came together and you were able to save a life? I think that's. We. We hear the horrible stuff, but when we hear also that your work works and you do save one person or you save a group of people or several or hundreds or whatever, we never hear those good moments where people go like, this is why we fight. This is why we do that. So I'll let you. I guess it's a good news, bad news scenario. You can go pick one each one. But it's just. It's absolutely fascinating that we never have heard that term on any news network because they just, it's just. I guess it's too one side. I guess it makes their argument look bad. And maybe everyone's just afraid to speak about what's actually happening because we just. I don't think Americans, I don't. I don't think a lot of us, myself included, understand the horrors to the level in which they are down there, to what has happened in the last four years. I think we just think, oh, they just crossed the border and then they. And then they go back. No, for all the ones that crossed, there's thousands that didn't have the money or didn't do the work they were asked to do. And there's By. I mean, there's. This is a horrific. This. The last four years of this administration when it comes to the border and was horrific. It will be historic when the truth actually comes out with how many lives have been lost with the. Just the fleecing of our borders. Would you agree to that?
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Oh, I would agree. And I'll even make it where it's relevant now. All of those individuals out there who are protesting and supporting the cartels and all of these gangs, what I'm going to say right now and convey, it's going to be really hard to stomach. So. And I hope it doesn't get taken off the air, but Again, this is factual. Me and my team have witnessed these things firsthand. You know, you've got stash houses along the border. You also have what we call slaughterhouses and worst days. I wish I could say there was one or two of worse days, but. So slaughterhouses are warehouses or facilities that are earmarked for those individuals who. Poor souls who were plucked out of either those caravans or the cartel. And these individuals decided they were going to be butchered for their organs and sold on the black market and literally horrific stuff. And I'll give you an example. There was a vehicle in this. There was a vehicle that was transporting some of these organs after leaving the slaughterhouse. And it just so happened on the Mexican side of the border. The federales intercepted that truck, and in the back of the truck were all of these body parts. Bad day, right?
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Yeah.
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Stash houses where children and babies were stuffed. Both sides of the border. By the way, they're in Arizona and Texas, where we would go in. Our teams went in this one particular one outside of Arivaca and near narco, Arizona. And in the floor, there's a floor, and they cut out the floor and they dig a hole in the sand and they'll stuff these individuals to be there or drugs or whatever it is. Typically, it's humans. And our teams, actually, we found this particular staff stash house one day and literally, Tyrus, I think it. I think we put our watch on. I think it took three and a half, four minutes. Our whole entire team was surrounded by different cartel members. Well, our guys have very special skill set, so they don't get intimidated very easily. But we were followed all the way, two states away by the cartel. Another incident decapitated Baby's head. They do rituals, which is disgusting, and we have found human and animal mixtures. They worship Santa Muerta. And this is all real. And nobody talks about the dark side of these organizations. And this isn't in Mexico, Tyrus. This is on our soil, in our country, that these horrific acts were taking place. Bad days.
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Yeah. When you said that Spanish. Can you say it again? What is it? My Spanish is more so.
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It's the angel of death. They were basically the angel of Death. Santa Martha Saint Death. And they truly believe that if they eat some of the body parts, that they get supernatural powers. And if you. You can interview border patrol agents, which we've done, and time and time again, they will tell you these stories. And when they're interviewing some of these gang members, and we've actually talked to some of Them and they truly believe this with everything they are. These are bad days, positive day. I'm gonna. It's probably one of the highlights. We were actually doing an operation that had nothing to do with human trafficking. This, this particular day. And we were staking out and watching some movement happen. And we saw them move some children and this was late at night, and they were moving children into a stash house over the border in Mexico. There was drugs and other things involved. And our teams, we have photographs which I'll send you to where we were negotiating with some of the Sinaloto cartel. And basically we said, at the end of the day, we'll give you. They knew we were watching them and they knew our teams were there. And so it was a trade off. Right. Release the children to us and we'll let this slide. Right. Because that's. Human lives are at risk. And so we were able to rescue a group of children. And you know, I'll never forget the look on these two little girls faces. They were. One was, I think 12 years old, the other was 13. And they were so terrified. But after spending several hours and they knew they were safe, it was incredible thing to witness how they felt like, oh my God, somebody rescued us. We were able to call their moms and their dads in the country where they came from. We turned them over to Border patrol. But what was different about our teams because unfortunately, under the Biden administration, sometimes those children disappears, even into the system. And so whenever we would turn over children that we would come across or rescue or intercept, we would take photographs of them. We would put their names, their parents names, their phone number, their address of the country that they came from. And I would personally, personally call their loved ones and have a conversation with them. I would let them know what to expect. 72 hours. If they didn't hear from XYZ agency, they were to phone me immediately. And then when border patrol would show up, we would convey this information and none of our children disappeared because of that, because they knew there was accountability and somebody was going to hold them through the fire.
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When you. And you said like you had to go through these extra steps because the other side of it is even going through the kids could end up still trafficked.
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That's correct. I mean, you're seeing that Trump's uncovering that now over 2, I believe it's probably almost 400,000 children that were absorbed and missing.
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I mean, that's just staggering. How can a part. I mean, I'm hearing it and I'm just And you're. And I'm not seeing it, but I, I'm imaging it. You know, how do you turn that off? Like, how do you find time? I know you have a book, and I want. We have. We're going to talk about the book in a second. But is it, Is it your faith? What. What is it that. Cause it's something that I know that you, you feel very strongly about also. I think you would have to, in that line of work with some of the things that you've seen. But also doesn't. Does it ever make you question because you see this. What is just pure evil, you know, and being done to children and women. It's a. Did you go. I mean, this is too personal of a question. But, but like, has it made you question things? Like, you're like, wow, because it just. Even a good day is still a tragic day. I mean, you're. You. Thankfully, you saved those children, but then you're thinking for that group, how many were there that week that you didn't get to save? You know, like, it's like almost like a. It's a horrible situation. Like, how do you cope?
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My faith. And you know, some will say, well, how can a God allow this evil atrocities. The answer is, you know, we've been given free will and free choice, right? There is evil and there's good in this world. We are the gap. We're the good guys, right? So it's hard to compartmentalize. And if you would have asked me even eight years ago that this is some of the things that we would be doing, I would have said, you're crazy. But once you see it, you can't turn an eye. A blind eye on this. And I'm fortunate because God has put me in, in an industry and with incredible human beings who have incredible skill sets who can help do some of these operations. And. But we're. God sends us. So you're the gap, right? You're the person who should be standing in the gap. And when I say you, everybody out there who's listening to your podcast right now, Tyrus, they have some kind of ability, right? I don't care talent. I don't care if it's a treasure, I don't care if it's connections, whatever that looks like you can help stop evil in this world. And that's all God's asking us to do, is to stand up. What is that old adage? Evil can only prevail when good men and women sit by and do nothing and say nothing. And that's what evil wants us to do. And again, I'm going to go back to what you say about you're a racist, you're a bigot, and all of these things. Evil uses language to control, to stop good people from doing what's right.
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And we're seeing a lot of that, hey, don't investigate me. You're racist. Now, people like, everyday people who are listening, who are listening to this, they're going to get fired up. I imagine a few will, and they'll want to do something. And one of the phrases that I've heard associated with you is citizen action. You talk about that a lot. So what does that actually mean? Were you against it at first and something changed your mind to get more people involved? Because it is. Again, these, these guys, they're not just. It's not a movie, they're going to threaten you or throw a rock at you. I mean, these people, they. They kill people who mess with their bottom line. So this is. By no means is this a, like a witness protection situation, I think. I mean, you take serious risks when you want to stand up to something like this.
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Well, yeah. I mean, a couple years ago, we were down in McAllen, Texas, and we were doing a huge rally with General Flynn and Ted Nugent. We had. Tom Homan was there, Mark Morgan, who was head of Border Patrol and at the. Under Trump's previous administration. So we had a huge group down there and we. It was two weeks before the super bowl and the. Everything in the world happened to stop that event because we were stopping the cartel's movement of bringing in women and children for the super bowl, because around Big Soup, any kind of sport events, unfortunately, there's a lot more trafficking going on, and we were able to stop that. And through that event, though, because I disrupted and our teams disrupted, I actually ended up having several bounties on my head. And that wasn't from our teams. We got a phone call from the Border Patrol and some police agencies who said, hey, they're using Christy's name by. They're literally using my name and have it out for me. So not everybody's called to do what I'm doing, Tyrus. And I don't recommend everybody doing what I'm doing, but you can do something. Citizen action means where you're at. What, God, it's your influence, right? Everybody has a area of influence around them, whether it's in the church or whether it's in their work or whether it's just going to the playground park, going to a gas station and pumping gas, you have an area of influence. If you see something, you say something. Always be aware of your situation and sound the alarm if something doesn't feel right. And that means that might be just, you know, calling your local police department, saying, hey, you know what? I noticed something or a child and it didn't feel right, it didn't look right. So citizen action is where you're at at that moment and being able to make a positive impact on your community, no matter what that looks like.
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Very cool. Yeah. And I, I hope more people do get involved or at least research and actually pay attention to see actually what's going on down there. Now, I want to talk about the book, the Plow, the Seed and the Sun. And it's. By the way, your presentation is well done. I mean, that's. I would like my guys to take a look. See, that's how a wall looks, fellas. You see how that is? That's. That looks. That looks good. And the fact that you even have a smile on your face and can laugh a little bit off of just. I. I don't. I don't think I'm ever going to forget the term rape tree for the rest of my life. I mean, that is just. It's sad that those type of monsters are still out there in this world, but I guess they'll always be there. So let's talk about this book. First of all, writing a book is not easy. Four times. What was the process to start the book, and what is your goal with this book?
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So this is a labor of love with the Holy Spirit that started over 11 years ago, in 2012, to be exact. You know my story. And I, you know, I'm somebody who was a no, is a nobody. I am nothing extraordinary. I am just somebody who is plucked by God to use. And I finally said yes, after almost 20 years of denying the Lord. And this all started, actually on Good Friday in my backyard, and I was having a Bible study. And I'm the type of person, God knows me. I want to see the nails. Right? I'm. I'm the Doubting Thomas.
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Yes.
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So it was inaudible. And he said, you know, Christy, I called you in 1993 and I called you in 2012. You denied me both times. Are you going to deny me a third? And this was, by the way, in 2020. And, you know, I'll never forget Tyrus. God whispered in my ear and he said, christy, I'm calling. I'm calling the unqualified, because the qualified haven't been doing their job. And so this book started based on a conversation in 2012, when I started seeing what was going on in our nation, in our country. And I have a unique lens because I worked in D.C. contracting with the DLA, the DOD. We help with the troop drawdown in Iraq and Afghanistan. With our firm. We did a lot of logistical stuff. We were contracted to do homeland security stuff. When you start seeing all of these different things internally and externally from our government and then with the church and all of these things, God just said, christy, you know what, I want you to write the book. And we've missed what the gospel is about. And I don't care what your faith is. This isn't a. You know, the plow is a metaphor. And in the Old Testament there was a lot of metaphors used, as, you know, plowing is a big deal. It's part of the culture and the community.
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It's also doing the work.
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B
Pardon?
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You got to do the work. If you're plowing, you got to do the work.
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B
Correct?
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A
Yes.
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And, you know, so the plow is God, but God is constantly, every single day, we have a field in front of us that's being plowed. And again, that talks about our influence, right? So we are, we have to turn up the soil, right? And when you turn up the soil and you grind that soil, it brings forth life and nutrients into, into the world. And our hearts sometimes have been hardened by our circumstances, our past. And sometimes it's influences internally and externally that we have no control over. But we're wounded. So first we need to plow that heart out. We have to plow our own internal soil up. And we have to come to terms with that and then forgive so we can then open up the door to plow the field in front of us that God is giving us. And of course, the seed, the seed is us. We are called to plant seeds. It is not our destiny to see what happens to those seeds, but we're to plant those seeds. And that means to do the best we can and to uplift those around us. And then of course, the sun is a metaphor. The sun is the nutrients which makes things grow and sustains life. But it's also Jesus. He's the sun. He's the free or given water, life giving water and bread. And so it's up to the Son then to take what you've done and to turn that into his glory. If that makes sense.
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That does make sense. Now it's just, it's such the duality of Your, of your, you, you come off, you have a very peaceful outlook on life. You kind of break it down. Is it seeing all that that kind of makes you put things in perspective? When you look at the world today, we have a lot of first world problems. Right. And you see a lot of people who are like, oh man, like, my day's ruined because my signal on my cell phone was. I couldn't get my texts out. Like, when you see people having like, not these real problems, you know, like I had to wait 20 minutes at Starbucks today and they got, they got my order wrong. That, that when and because that seems to be the majority of most the problems we hear about today, you know, because that's what media has make us chase. How do you diff. I mean, you, you have your faith, but there it's such an extreme. How did you come to that? Because I, I, you, when you questioned it, when was it in the beginning was. Or was it the long, the marathon of the destruction that you see that makes you question things? It's not like that first day where you, the first time you see a dead body or you see someone that's been tortured, or is it just like this? I've been doing this for five years and I just don't see it getting, you know, it's just a. Again and again and again that has to wear on you. Was, was there a moment where you thought it was just too much and it was going to like you were going to lose yourself in this fight? Was there ever a moment where, because again, we're not posting pictures up, but to visualize what you're seeing? I don't even think it does it justice if that makes it of some of the tragedies, you know, body parts, children being buried alive, like, that's a lot.
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There's many days where I've broken down privately and cried and questioned and, and you know, I've wrestled, I've screamed at the Lord. I'm gonna be honest. I'm human. Right. I'm angry. Right? Sure. But I have an incredible team around me. This isn't just me. I wish I could say, oh yeah, I'm this, you know.
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A
No, but also, you're a talented person. You don't have to, you don't have to do this. Like, this is not something you have to do.
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B
No, we don't. But if you don't, who's going to?
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A
Exactly. But I'm just saying, like, you don't have to sell yourself short. You have a tremendous team. But just the Courage to sit and put your face out there and speak on this is tremendous. It takes a lot of courage because there are people who are seeing this, who are. You are going to up their bottom line, you know, because they work. These are, these are. They have CFOs for the shit they're doing right now. You know, they have guys who like their bottom line and like it's an entire organization. It's not. I think when we hear. We use the words like cartels and it minimizes that. No, this is nations. These are, these are nationally funded groups that have basically been able to. For the last. Obama. Obama was pretty strict when it came to the border. He wasn't. He kept. He won the border tight. President Trump, as we know it wasn't until Joe Biden. It's not even Joe Biden, because I think we can all make the fair assessment that I don't think he made one decision when he was in the White House, but that, that regime, the shadow regime underneath him, basically just when opening that border there, at some point we need to see a death toll. We need to see the results of the administration, what they have done. Because they have emboldened a very dangerous adversary and you don't necessarily even have the tools to compete with them in terms of the stuff that these guys are being. These. They're able to get, when they're able to get weapons. I mean, the Mexican cartel is just as loaded up with weapons as their military. I mean, I mean, it's a. I mean, these are big, big time things. I mean, does that, that get to you at all? And when you see someone complaining about their Starbucks was cold, do you ever just want to go like, hey, you know, there's a real world going on out there. Pay attention.
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B
Yeah, it can be frustrating. But, you know, we're a society that has become.
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A
We're spoiled.
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B
Right. We don't really see. We have blinders on and we tend to not. But right here, what's in front of us. But I also blame a lot of the news outlets. I mean, you know, Tyrus, I'm probably a little bit older than you, but I remember in the 80s, for example, and early 90s, there was a shift in media that kind of started then, but you actually had real reporting. We don't have, we have, we. We don't have true reporting. Right. So people are being fed, whether it's on their phones, their social media, wherever they're getting that news, it's because people aren't doing their job. Real journalism for the Most part is dead. And hopefully there's a resurgence of that because they're not seeing what's out, what's.
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A
They'Re not doing the reporting. They're just checking whatever the hottest headline is on social media and that's their.
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B
Story and that's it.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So, yeah, it is frustrating. But, you know, when you look at, you know, our teams and, and, you know, they, they've stopped me from quitting. I have one particular person who is just an incredible human being. I have to travel with security. I, I, I've been protected and I have security because of numerous reasons. But, but these guys don't let me stop. Right? We're, because we lift each other up. The days we're down, we're there for each other. And the days that we're up, we're there for each other. And we're like, you know what? We have to keep going and we have to keep exposing because if somebody, if we don't do it, who, who's going to? And I can be honest with you, a lot of the intel and a lot of information over the last, from 2020 to non, a lot of that information. You will never hear our names, our organization, our teams. But the, some of the reporters who were able to get that information out, it came from our team. I remember actually one of your colleagues, I think, was Mnuchin. He was at the border one night with us and he actually Fox News grabbed a clip of ours. We were down there at the border and we were doing an IDOC and we were bringing in. This was before the drones were all the way down at the border. Our teams had those drones, we had highly sophisticated drones. We were actually in real time disrupting some cartels because one of the cartels would do is they would send an influx of a whole bunch of people over here to take the border patrol off their post, right? So then they could run their drugs or whatever it is that they're going to run over here. And this particular night where Bill Mnuchin was there, he filmed it. Our drones were up. And in real time, we were telling the coordinates, GPS coordinates. And by the way, while they were dropping their drugs, they were able to apprehend and arrest everybody because we, in real time were doing this. So this is the kind of operations our teams would do. And then we will work with Sheriff Brad Coe down in, on the border in Texas. We saw a gap in a need. They didn't even have proper night vision goggles. Can you believe that? Tyrus, our government, our agencies Our local state didn't have them the right equipment. So what did we do? Our teams, we donated the most sophisticated military grade night vision goggles so they could do their jobs. And so our teams, we do a lot of different things, but it's because we're called to do this, right? And so I don't get upset when I see the people getting upset or the, the Man Buns and all that stuff, or their Starbucks. But I would like people to kind of open up their peripheral vision a little bit more and really understand. We have a. We have some bad hombres who have infiltrated our borders. We have some bad hombres right now who have set up in Central, South America, Caribbean and Cuba. I did a piece in Capital Times magazine, an article, you can go back. It was written in 20 October of 2023. And I laid out what Trump's doing right now and why Maduro needed to be removed. And we name names and locations of spy bases from China, training camps that Russia and the cartel are using in Nicaragua. We name where Colombia comes in. We name Venezuela. How they've been washing passports, where Tyron and Caracas have been flying in flights with terrorist organizations where they were absorbed, wash the passports they absorb into the caravans who have come up into our southern borders. We have photographs of terrorists and militias from Russia and different organizations in China who have come through and were allowed to come through unvetted, by the way, purposefully by the Biden administration. We can lay out all of this. Cuba, where they have spy bases and agricultural land that's being used.
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A
I'm, I'm dyslexic, right? So I grew up, I look at things very oppositely and outside the box. And that's always kind of been my thing in my way of thinking, I've embraced that. Oh, we're just different. When you said something to me, it just kind of popped in my head. They didn't have the appropriate equipment. I now think a lot of little things are a part of that complicity that I talk about. If you're underfunded and you don't get the proper equipment, it's very hard to do your job. And it's probably by design because then the other side knows you don't have the support, you don't have the equipment. Their equipment's better. I mean, and that's. And, and that puts our border patrol agents again, I just. And when you start to look at, with pulling Moderna out, do you think that was a huge message to the rest of the cartels? That you can be got because I, I think it was more of a statement, you know. And of course I always look to who runs to the front of the line to complain. And it's like that's the issue that you needed to stop what you're doing and you need to go and do all kinds of interviews. I feel like that was a message like, hey, you need to get in front of this and you need to turn this around. I just feel like there's a lot of complicity that's starting to show up. And again I'm using, I'm using woke terms. Remember how they took words that didn't mean it and they made it something different. So yeah, I'm using complacent and complicity. Those are my two magic words for something else. It feels like what you guys are doing and what we're starting to see with non journalists is the, the curtain is being slowly pulled and we're starting to see things and we're starting to do a very simple thing, follow the money. And I think a lot of things are connected. I think Doge going after fraud. I think all of a sudden seeing all this money in Minnesota, California, New York, all these big blue states, all these sanctuary cities, all of a sudden we're seeing all this corruption and all this fraud. I think it's also directly will end up being where the border is all part of the same thing. It's all completely connected and it's not a conspiracy because we're just following the money. And I think it's going to be a very interesting. Just a lot of things to me. And again, I'm not an expert on this other than watching a lot of murders she wrote. But I do feel like there is a blueprint that is slowly coming to surface for everyone and it takes a lot of courage to be dusting off that, that, that blueprint. But are. Would you be surprised eventually to see the. All the connectivity with the last administration. Was there a huge influx from before? I mean you. There was a big difference in terms of. Obviously we had what, what would be your best guess? 20 million, 10 million that walked in through the borders.
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34 million plus.
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A
34 million.
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B
Wow.
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A
I wasn't even close. I wasn't even half.
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B
Yeah, because you got to understand Tyrus. So when they give the numbers and stuff. So for example, when you're out in the field, so especially in like the areas like no Man's land where there's.
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A
34 million people, Port of entries and.
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Things like that, you can you can get a pretty good handle on and those high visible areas. But for example, where we were, you look at the data, right? So a lot of this stuff is from game cameras, both from private ranchers, properties or private properties, plus border patrols. And they trigger and they trigger and you can all of a sudden those cameras come up and you can see what's visibly in front of them. But what doesn't show is how many are behind that camera. That never triggers. So when you look at the real data and you start looking and compiling. So we have five borders, we have an aerial border, we have a west coast, east coast, northern and southern border. And when you look at all of that, when we've looked at the true data, we believe it's well over the 30, 32, 34 million mark. But interesting. One thing that you said is the fact that one of my biggest concerns is with everything that's going on with the cartels, and the cartels don't work separately, they've actually morphed and they've evolved and they work alongside of our enemies, right? So cartels control routes. You think of them as drugs, right? They run drugs, they run children, humans.
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A
They basically own a territory. You have to pay them, right?
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B
Yes, and, and so that, but they've morphed. For example, Maduro. This is so important that we took out Maduro. But what I'm going to find interesting is what's going to happen now because the same players who, who have, who are using Venezuela as a, so Venezuela is a hub. It is an ecosystem. It is an ecosystem that is used for our enemies to, to embed, right? And then they embed and they're protected by the government. And they are protected by the government and they're protected by the Cartel of the sun, which now used to be a cartel, they used to be a criminal organization, but they've been legitimized by the Venezuelan government. So they now control the ports and a lot of other things, right? So now you've got players like Iran, China and Russia and Hezbollah, who in ISIS and the Iran's Revolutionary Guard, by the way, who are actively working there, who are already embedded in Venezuela. That is the conduit point. So that's the hub. That's the ecosystem. From that ecosystem they've been able to use, for example, Bolivia, the country of Bolivia is the Iran's storehouse for military grade equipment. Mohajar drones, this is very important. Again, I reported on this in 2023. These drones are capable of having missiles, ballistic missiles attached to them. Which, by the way, can reach the United States interior. So I believe removing the door just, yes, it's sending a signal, but it's far more deep than the surface of narcotics. Yeah, we know weaponization well, we can go in and get them, but there's a lot more reason from national security why we're doing what we're doing.
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Yeah, I, I think this, letting them know that, like, we, we know the game. Yeah, we're, we're. Well, we know, we know the playbook.
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So now we need to disrupt our enemies who are at our gates. And that includes plucking out and it is intertwined. Tyrus, I believe also what ICE is doing right now. And it's so important that Tom Homan and that whole group and Kristi Noem and the Homeland Security is doing. It's not just about rounding up the illegals who are the bad hombres. This is disrupting terrorist organization and networks because by them going neighborhood, neighborhood by neighborhood, community by community, they're also being able to go in and gather information and intel, which is important. We have isis, we have Hezbollah, we have Hamas in our borders at huge numbers because of Biden's open border policies. We've already thwarted many threats. How many do we not know? And the signal was already given by the ayatollah. And it's not about if, it's about when. And we can only stop terrorist activity from happening and big events from happening by doing what Trump's administration is doing and what our hard, hardworking men and women of the Border Patrol and CPS and HHS are doing.
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A
Listen, if you were to right now have the presidency or if you were sitting down with the president right now and he said, is there a policy or something else that the White House can do or to help in this situation, Is there a policy or something that you would need on top of that, or do you feel you guys are set for success or what is one thing that support wise from the government that maybe you don't have that you need more of or something you would like to see happen?
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B
You mean our teams of what we do?
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A
Yeah, like support from the White House in terms of, like to loosen the handcuffs a little bit, so to speak.
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B
You know, loosening the handcuffs, because we already, we already work with the constraints of local law enforcement or anything like that, because we don't do anything outside of that. But honestly, I think, I think around, I think it's more important to reach outside of the Washington zone, and that is getting together individuals who have done Real operations or have the knowledge and getting them together on a roundtable to share information. I, I think a pipeline to that would be more important than any. Anything that they could actually tangibly give to us. I think intel and information is more important than anything else.
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Right. Because that's, that's the how you guys are able to thwart as you get the info before it goes down. And like I said, hopefully, like I said, you're four years behind because these groups had four years to basically do whatever they wanted to do. And that's a lot of time when you're dealing with, you know, because we're just thinking about one state of Minnesota was $9 billion in fraud. And you can multiply that, I don't know, by a hundred. If you think about all the different places that these groups were set up shop and started because the money somehow launders and ends up back in their home countries. Crazy how that happens. And then when it gets over there, you know, they're just building churches and schools. I mean, it's not like they're funding terrorist organizations. I'm sure it's, you know, that's how you build beachfront.
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B
We call it the laundromat, just like you said. So it's the, we call it the line. They wash the money through legitimate channels. Right. They take it in either through grants or through NGOs. NGOs. I think one of the things that Trump's administration is already doing that it could really do more of, I think special task force need to be, specifically he needs to appoint to start really delving into the financials of NGOs, NGOs, and I can name a couple of them, are used to funnel money back to either bought for and paid for politicians outside of our borders. They're very clever at what they do. And so follow that Money, follow the NGOs. And, you know, the other thing is, is I think one of the most important things Trump can do also is he needs to get a hold of the Soros organizations, right? All of his. He is an enemy of the state and he needs to be deemed as such. And so. And lastly, you know, we need to start seeing true, real accountability. And I know, yes, you know, we look at, you know, Pam Bondi and all of this stuff, and it does take time, especially if you're going to go after headline names, right. Very important people who are corrupt, we have to make sure we have real, true evidence. And that takes time to build those cases. But at some point, very soon, before the midterms we need to be having some accountability in the law, right? And grand juries, because Trump is going to lose a lot of credibility if we don't start seeing. Because, for example, half the. I'll just give you one example. Like, we'll bring up Hillary Clinton. So even one of the things that Hillary Clinton did that we already know and she admitted to, as a government contractor, I would. I would lose all of my licensing and I would be behind bars, bar none.
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Not even a question.
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Not even question. So this is the frustration. I would like to see them, actually. And if Pam Bondi isn't the person to do it, then replace her quickly and get somebody who's going to do.
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A
It, you know, because here's the thing, it also hurts the actual movement because I myself have. I'm using my platform. I've been using it since the first time I saw that moment with that bullshit where they tried to say those men on the horses were whipping people. I was furious. And even when I met President, I asked him if we could throw him a party. We still gotta work on that party, by the way. But at the White House, for those guys, some recognition because their lives were impacted. But here's the thing. We can say, listen, bringing people like yourself on, but look what's happening. We need something to be done, and we have this and we have that, and then the American people, like, finally, we're gonna see some justice. Because if you get justice, then you get change, and then it never really seems to come to fruition. And then it's like, well, then why do we waste our time even advocating to do. Do something for the poor women and children and men who are being trafficked into this country or countries that are dumping their prisons out on our front nowhere. And we don't see anything happen. The average American like myself included, would be like, well, let's just move on to something. We can't do anything about it. Let's just. It is what it is. You know, just. And then you go back to that, just watch my own ass, you know, just focus on what's going on in my world. So we really do need to. When you do bring up these things, you do need action. You do. Even if. Just let, if there is a. As if there's a person who is corrupt, who's doing these things, who's in trafficking, at least drag his ass to court. Let him beat it in court. Let us see. Let the American people see. Let the people that, you know. And a lot of times it's people that you have, they have built this incredible narcissistic image of this wonderful person, this great person, this charitable giver. And then you'll find out who they really are just in the court and just by public opinion. They won't be the same again. And they won't be able to go back to it. Even if they beat the rap, they won't be able to go back to it because everyone. It's exposed. And I think we need to see that. That needs to be in the next two years of his administration. You do need to see some results from the findings because then you end up just being a far right talking point. I think you got to get results.
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B
Even if it's Tyrus, you know, they always get there. No one's above the law. I love that. That's what they want to constantly say and leverage and words have levity, right? And if no one truly is above the law, then it doesn't matter if it's a Republican and it doesn't matter.
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A
I don't give a damn who it is.
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B
They, they have. And I don't care if it's a senator. I don't care if it's a House member. I don't care if it's a Supreme Court justice. I don't care if it's somebody around the President himself. Right now. If we have information that those individuals have broke the, the laws of our land and they are corrupt, they need to have their day in court. Right? And they need to be because you, you're innocent until proven guilty.
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A
Explain it to us. Make it make sense, but explain it.
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B
And, and stop hiding and shielding your political friends. Right? Because that's what's happened. We're seeing these political friends who are being shielded from the law. You know, I'm going to tell you right now, for example, even on both sides of the fence, and this is just one example because this is a Democrat, Republicans are. Some of these Republicans have the same issues. So if you look at Elon Omar, for example, how do you go from being have a wealth of 40,000 less, right or negative?
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A
Yeah.
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B
And you're $30 million. I don't know about you, Tyrus, but I want to know what the heck she's done.
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I'll do whatever she did for half. I'll do half. I'll take 15. I ain't tripping. I'm a horse, dad. I'm in. I'm a horse, dad. Yeah, yeah. Just a couple tips. Just a couple tips, homie. No, you know what? Bernie Sanders, socialist, three mansions like Mitch McConnell, was he 114 million. It's embarrassing how dumb we look as Americans when you see a Senator and like $30 million in talking, speaking events. Elian, that's what we did. It was speaking events. I heard you. I'm not listening to you talk for that long. Nobody is. You come out, you say you hate America. It's like watching an old wrestling promo. America sucks. And I'm great. No one's paying for that. So, yeah, the corruption's there. You made $30 million in a year. Less than a year. And, and it's not like they're make. They're all they do is. They do TV shows, interviews. They're not even what's. They hardly show up for votes. Or they spend their whole time. They only come out on certain issues when I think they're. Again, complicity. Oh, there's trouble. I'm going to come out and tell everyone there, don't worry, I got it. We're not going to investigate this. I'm just going to tell whitey that they're racist and they'll back off. And they've been doing that for the. The last four years, and it's been very effective. And I'm happy to say that I'm glad that white people are tired of that shit. Like, stop it. Like, don't allow it. I said all the time, like, well, if you're, you know. And one of the things was thrown at me, well, you're misogynistic and you're. You're. You're racist towards Somalians. No, I'm a moneyist. I'm. Yeah, I'll be. You can call me every name in the book, but I want to know what my money's at. Because the other thing is this. If it's this, if there's so much fraud out there, how about we all just don't pay taxes for a year while y' all figure it out? Like, yeah, like, here we go. You don't. You don't want to arrest anybody. Cool America. You guys find the fraud, that'll be everyone's taxes for the year. And then. Oh, but lo and behold, you can't have that. So at least get us our money back. Because if I kept paying, if I ordered a pizza, and every time they kept bringing me the box, no pizza in it. After a while, I ain't ordering no damn pizza no more, actually, probably after the first time. But this. This we need will. I think it will hurt the president's presidency, which. Which would be a Self inflicted wound, I guess if we don't have results from the information that is coming forward like, and if that means next man up, then so be it. It's not. I don't think anyone should be in politics for a career anyway. You're there to do a service and if you can't do that service, you should be out. And when you finish your service, you should be out. I don't think you should go to the White House to get rich.
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B
Well, you know, why are we funding as taxpayers any ngo? Why is any taxpayer funded money going to any NGO or any nonprofit organization for that matter? That's never the intent or the intent of taxes in the first place. I think if you want to get rid of the fraud and the mass just rampant running wild that we're seeing is to get rid of our tax payer dollars going to any ngo, nonprofit organization, period. Dot, that's it. And you know, and term limits. Women Fighting for America, by the way, is not a nonprofit. I mean that is by design. If you want, if you want that to check that red box right where you want your tax donation. We're very transparent where all the money goes. But I'm not your girl. And that's by design because nonprofits are 100% for profit. I haven't met one nonprofit that wasn't for profit.
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I always, I always get mad when nonprofits give you gifts for donating. Like, we'll send you this beautiful blanket. No, quit buying that shit and put the stuff towards where it needs to go. That's the first thing when I donate to a charity. If they give me a gift, an adorable gift in return. I'm not donating because I'm like, you just wasted money. Which means then you're wasting all kinds of money. Because if you got time to buy those little things and get them printed for everyone to ver. I don't want to, I don't want to be a part of a virtue signaling charity. I want to be a part of something that gets things done. If you're telling me that 7% of my donation goes to staffing to get things done, I can accept that. But when I see it's like 13% of your donation is going to the actual cause and the rest is so we can keep the fight going. It's a shitty fight.
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B
Tap out, Tyrus. So Kennedy International, which I'm the COO of, we have what's called Kennedy Quick reaction fund. And 100% of every dollar goes to whatever it is that we're Doing like right now we're helping in Jamaica and we underwrite us personally underwrite all of the administrative costs because that's what we do. That's what giving really truly.
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A
Yeah, that's called charity.
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B
You're really in it for the real tunnel for Towers. They do it underwriting the administrative costs. 100% of that dollar for women fighting. So when we go in and I get really frustrated because there's a lot of trafficking, anti trafficking organizations out there. I say before you give to any of these organizations, please, by everything inside of you, go look at the past five years, not just one year, go look at the past five years of where the money's gone. Because I can name four organizations right now off the top of my head, which I won't. That if we had even 1/10 of the money that they had, so many more children and women would be rescued because our teams would be out 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year because that's how much exploitation is going on. And our guys get frustrated because we've had to say no. A couple years back in Hawaii there was a big. I got a phone call, our team's got a phone call and it broke my heart. There's an. How some of these cartels, how they work is so yachts, super yachts will sit out in international waters and they'll bring in children or women to be traffic out to the, to the international waters for to do God knows what to these, to these individuals. And sometimes they don't make it back, sometimes they're thrown overboard and because they can't have the witness. And we were asked to come and intercept and do some things and I had to say no because we didn't have the funding. And that to this day it still bothers me if you want to say a bad day, that's a bad day. Because right now I want to throw up because I'm thinking about how many lives we could have just saved. But you have to look at organizations who have the proper motive and they have 100% of their money not going to anything but the fight that you're giving money to do so.
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A
And that's so true and I couldn't agree more with that. And I have. I could keep you on here for absolute ever. Please promise you're going to come back. I want updates. See how things are going in the next year or so, in the next few months. And again, where can we get the book?
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B
You can go to Christy Hutcherson. Dot com. That's C H R I S T I E hutcherson.com you can get the book there. You can also find out about Women Fighting for America, our organization there. There's like a little click to the link there as well. And if you want to get involved, whether it's, you know, donating your time, your talents, or your treasures, please go there. Find out who we are, what we're all about. And again, thank you so much for having me on. But there's hope, right? Always at the end of the day, I like to say there's hope. We are a constitutional law abiding country. And when we get back to the principles and the foundation that this country was founded upon, there's no stopping us. And we just have to make sure we call out evil when we see it. And we need to be diligent. We're the watchmen for the rest of the world. And so God is relying on all of us to step into that field of service and do what's right again when. When evil prevails. Only when we sit by and we do nothing.
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A
Well, that. Well, beautifully said, and I don't think we even need to touch on that. So thank you so much. Happy New Year. And again, you can come back because I want to. I want to get some more war stories. But thank you for what you do and the fact that you're smiling gives us all hope.
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B
Thank you so much, Cyrus.
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A
All right. You have a great Sam.