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A
Well, no, because you need a needle. No, you can have a sewn on there. But I didn't even introduce you, man D. The one of the legendary DJ Scribble. We ran into each other a couple times the airport. I'm a fan of your work. You're gracious enough to watch me on Gutfeld, so.
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B
I also watched you wrestle, bro. But people don't realize, like, when. When. When WWE went. Did Sunday Night Heat, I hosted that.
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A
Oh, that's right. Yeah.
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B
So I took my first bump from Pat Patterson. He speared me. I did.
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A
Of course he did. Yeah, well. Yeah, well, that's what I would. He was one of the. Of his era, one of the greatest. But as. As backstage, as an agent losing him the work kind of. He was one of those guys. He always says something like, hey, a lot of people talking about this morning, Tyrus. And I'd be like. He's like, you know what they said? No, what'd they say? Nothing. I'm like, walked off, you know? But when he took interest in you, that meant that he thought you had something. Yeah. Because he would not waste his time.
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B
Because when I stumbled off the stage, I bump into Vince and I look, I was like, way to take your first bump, kid. Yeah, I was like. I got sakoed from Mick Foley. Chris Jericho beat the hell out of me. I wanted the Dudley Boys to throw me through a table, but they wouldn't do that for me.
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A
No, I wanted. They just retired. They had their little retirement match. That's kind of cool. So we had similar. Pat. Now let's. Let's get into your beginnings a little bit. Sure. Before we get into the road, what drew you to music?
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B
So I started DJing in 1980. I was just moved to Long Island. I was living in Elmont. I was in the park, and I said this. They had this park jam there. This kid, DJ Squiggy, he was DJing. And I was like, what the hell is this? Like, I wanted. I was already doing graffiti, you know, I mean, I was bombing.
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A
So you had an artistic part to you just kind of misplaced.
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B
I was already doing graffiti. That's how I got the name Scribble right, you know, So I was bombing the J Trains. I was bombing the. The Jays.
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A
You know, the Statue of limitations is right.
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B
Yeah, it's totally right. Yeah, I did. But I did Twos, the Fives, and that's how, you know, I want. I was very into hip hop and I started DJing. I would go to his house until I could afford my Own turntables. And then I literally just started practicing every day. And I was 14 years old, told my parents I was going to my friend's house. I jumped on the train, went up to the Bronx River Project by myself at that time, Little White Boy. And I walked out. And, you know, back then, Zone Nation and everything, they had the security over there. And they're like. He's like, yo, white boy, what you lost? And I'm like, no, I want to meet Africa Bambaata. Like, what? So that's how I ended up meeting Grand Wizard Theodore Africa Bamba, Cold Crush Brothers, you know, and they took a liking to me and they saw my skills and they. And that's how I started to become part of the industry. And then in 1986, 87 is when I got into the young black teenagers. None of us were black.
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A
No.
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B
And we were produced by Hank Shockley and Public Enemy. And instead of going into the Air Force, because that's what I was originally going to do, because my whole family was military. My father was, you know, Air Force.
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A
Was that a tough decision? Was your family okay with it?
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B
My father, yeah, he was okay. My father was also a doo wop singer. That's kind of how I got. My father was in the ovations and the Velvet Tones. That's kind of how I got into music, really. And. But he didn't understand hip hop, you know, he didn't understand my lifestyle. Old school guinea, you know what I mean? Like, old school Italian guy. Like, he didn't get it. But when I got out of that, I went. The first thing I did, I was on my first world tour in 1988 with Public Enemy and EPMD with the Teenagers. And we didn't ever have our first album out. And we were doing all our album off of break beats. The first time we went out there was in the Docklands arena, our first show. And they announced the young black teenagers. And then he saw five white guys come out and they were like, boo. They started throwing stuff at us. I got hit with a pair of sunglasses. I kept DJing. By the time we got to Germany, things started to. People started to see what we were about. No, we could get down. And then we put out the first album and then the second album, which we had to hit record, tap the bottle and twist the cap, right? So that took me around the world. I remember that for a while. Then I was with Dr. Dre, East Coast. Dr. Dre with Dr. Dre. And I love her. And I started running with him and Then I. I did. Started doing episodes of young TV raps with them. And then I got on Hot 97 on the morning show. So that's really when I. When I left the Teenagers. And that's really what.
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A
That's when you kind of got in.
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B
Locally, you know what I mean? And then I was in the Rocksteady Crew, you know, I was a Rocksteady Crew dj. And then I did my first Off Broadway play in 94 at the minute of Lane Theater called Jam on the Groove. And then I did my first Broadway play with Bill Irwin at the New Victory Theater when they cleaned up 42nd Street. So it was like this whirlwind of what am I going to do? But, like, at that time, too, when I left the group, I was homeless. Literally homeless.
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A
I was sleeping always. Betting on yourself is always a tough call because you're. You're willing to risk what you have.
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B
Yes.
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A
You know, because you could have stayed in the group. Get your check and then.
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B
But yeah, because we were getting screwed royally. Like, we. When I found out what. How much we really got for our advance and what they did to us and what we actually got, it was we were that typical cliche rap group back then, you know, like. Like Third Base said a box of Newports and Puma Sweats, like, that was it, you know? So when I. When I got tired of that, I left the group. I had nowhere to go. I was sleeping on Dr. Dre's couch. I. Then I took a small job at Big B Records, and I was sleeping on Craig Coleman's couch, who's now the chairman of Atlantic Records, you know, And I was running around with the artifacts, doing stuff with them. But my big break, like, locally, was Stretch Armstrong was the New Music Seminar. Stretch Armstrong got sick. The show was at Chippendales. And this is like, when the night the industry, like, realized what I do. And they're like, yo, Scribble, you got your records with me? I'm like, yeah, they're in my car, because that's where I kind of live.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So I ended up doing the show and then just ripped the place down. I tore the place apart. And that's when, like, the actual music industry saw something in me and it started to develop. And then, like I said, I got on Hot I7, started the traffic jams on the Morning show with Dr. Dre and Ed Lover. And then from there, I went to mtv. And then that's because I was doing those little parts with, you know, on Yo. MTV Raps. I Did the final episode of Yo. Which, you know, 30 years later, I produced the Yo. MTV Raps 30th anniversary at the Barkley Center. That was my show with Charlie Stetler. And it was one of the greatest achievements in hip hop that I've ever achieved. Like, we gave back to mtv, like, let me do what I wanted to do. I always give props to them for. For that because they had really nothing.
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A
Well, how are they gonna tell you how to create?
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B
That was the thing they were trying to. And then Bruce Gilmer, he was like, leave him alone. Like, and we did that show. I know I'm all over the place. Cause I don't know how to.
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A
I'm always saying, leave me alone. Just let me do my thing.
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B
Well, that was it. You know, we were getting calls from mtv. Well, the lower third cry on color as well. And then they were just like, leave him alone. I did that show and created that show with a good friend of mine, DJ Crush out of Louisiana and two interns from five Towns, you know, and it was like nobody could believe we pulled what we pulled off, you know, and it was incredible. But like, my career, you know, with MTV was the catalyst who brought me to international, which got me to DJ in 60 countries, which, you know, there were so many things that I had first of doing that be called, you know, before am, before this, being considered the first celebrity dj.
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A
Well, you know, it's. It's a lot to unpack there.
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B
But yeah, I don't know. I'm all over the place right now.
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A
We're good. We're on my time. The biggest thing is like, when I hear you say longevity, because every name that you mentioned isn't around anymore. And some of them were big names, you know, And I find that like, it's. Especially the music industry because it's changed so much. I don't necessarily feel for the better. I feel like the artist has just been choked out.
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B
Well, there's no more artist development. That's gone away a long time ago, you know, now everything is not based on talent. It's based on how many followers you are. You're marketing, you know, you have to now as an artist, be. Wear many hats, which. Where a label used to do all that for you, but now you don't even need the label because with. With the digital age that we're in and the Internet, one click, you're global, right? Enter. Once you post that record on SoundCloud, wherever you're going to do, YouTube, whatever, TikTok, whatever you're gonna do. And you could blow up. And you don't need these big labels anymore. That's a fact.
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A
But they. I have noticed especially a lot of independent artists. When I think of. When I think of one of the greatest independent artists, I think of Ice Cube. Guy was. I'm still amazed by the fact that how young he was to not sign with Heller and them in the nwa.
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B
I was in the studio with the bomb squad with Hank and Keith and them when Ice Cube did America's Most Wanted. We're actually on some of those records in the background.
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A
That's my favorite album of all time. Yeah.
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B
I rock that studio every night with that. With him with that album.
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A
Yep. I was terrified of the Okie Doke. But to know, hey, I'm not gonna sign, you know, at that age, because most of us, you're perfect example. You're on a couch, they offer you a job. You probably. I didn't even. My first contract signing. I didn't even read it. I was. I mean, we were the same figure. I'll figure it out later. Of course. Like, whatever. I'll just make it work. I'll make it work.
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B
Just wanted to be on.
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A
Yeah. You know, and. And to. When you see like, Guy. A young guy who's like, nope, I'm keeping my intellectual property, keeping my publishing, of course. Keeping all those things.
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B
Of course.
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A
And he continued. He had. I think he's one of the greatest lyricists of all time.
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B
Ice Cube's nasty.
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A
And then.
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B
Still is.
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A
Yeah, still is. I just got his new album. But the, The. The control is still with the industry because they're like, you're not going to get Emmys. You know that we, we get those. You're not Emmys. You're not gonna get Grammy. I remember we. When I was bodyguard Snoop, we went to the Grammys and they had him there all day to trick him.
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B
Right.
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A
To think that he was gonna get a Grammy.
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B
Right.
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A
And the rap Grammy was giving away off camera, like in the afternoon. So we're sitting out there and we're like, well, here's the main thing. Like, Coldplay came out and he's looked at me and he looked at his wife. And he was like, man, they just wanted me here for the ratings. Like, we out. Yeah, we left. But it's like they don't. The artists, they work. And it's in wrestling, it's in acting. They try to make to where the artist is so replaceable that they'll never have to deal with another prince again. They'll Never have to deal with a guy that can.
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B
It's disposable music, too.
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A
Yes.
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B
The music. Like, I mean, and I'm not taking anything away from new hip hop, but tell me a record that's come out in the last 10 years, that's going to be around in 10 years.
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A
I can honestly tell you.
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B
Give me one and.
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A
And I'm.
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B
Give me one.
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A
As you get older, you evolve, right? Because the stuff that we cared about when we were younger, you know, you wanted to get a girl, you wanted to have a nice car and a chain, like that was, you know, and some money in your pocket. But then you get older, you have kids and stuff. That's not really on top of the thing. So when you listen to stuff, you either want to hear a good reminisce or you want to hear something that's current or whatever. I think a lot of times it's just like boxing, where a rapper, when he's hungry and broke, he's just spitting. And then he gets successful and. And he got nothing to rage about anymore, you know, so then you gotta be an artist.
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B
Yes.
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A
You gotta be able to create.
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B
But, you know, Jazzy Jeff said it best. When you become successful, that's when the real work begins.
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A
Right.
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B
Because to maintain that, I mean, you know, you. You know, everybody pushes you up, pushes you up. As, you know, you're in an industry, you were in an industry and still are, that you. They push you. But when you get to a certain plateau, then that next level is coming to try and take you down.
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A
Yeah. And there's always. For every. Every time you're going up, there's at least 10 people around you, without a doubt, trying to knock you off the, you know, with a smile on their face.
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B
Then you become a circus trick because you're only as good as your last act. Nobody cares about what you did yesterday. It's, what are you doing today?
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A
Yeah, you have to be better. I always say, always, whenever people ask me, like, what is your goal? Whenever you go out on TV or stand up or wrestle, I have to be better than the last time I was out. That's the only way you can maintain.
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B
And that puts a lot of stress on you, too, because it's like, it's.
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A
Stress in every aspect of your life, without a doubt.
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B
Because, like, everything you do. Because as you said, we got older, we have kids who have all these other activities that we got to maintain that cause money. Then you got college. So you gotta. As you get older and you're not that young guy anymore that was at.
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A
The top, that's hungry and will stay up till four days and four nights.
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B
I'll still do that. But it's. It's a different world because your audience gets older and they move on.
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A
Right?
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B
So now you got to try to redo.
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A
Either grow with them or you keep bringing in new. And I always think if you grow with them, you is better because then you can add more to it. But it's. That's where the real in. In any aspect of anything to keep people tuning in, especially DJing. Because the, the computer, the AI, everything's changed. Like, it's not the same thing. Like, you know, DJ battles and, and like. And you even. And you, you could. The one thing that good about a DJ is that you could mix it in any genre. And that's what boxing, dj, Comedy jam had a dj, but wrestling events should have always had a dj.
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B
But I, and I never wanted to be pigeonholed into one style of music.
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A
Right.
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B
That's why I was doing mix and rock for in match.
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A
But you have to, right? Because all music is. I don't listen. Like, I honestly tell you, the, the seat, the. The album I'm playing the most right now and it was, it was like by accident is Shaboozy. Like I had not even. I heard the tipsy song once and I was like, you know, it was clever, it was good. I didn't think much of it. And then I was just flipping through. I was driving. I think we had like a four hour drive and I just.
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B
And you got into it.
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A
I just clicked it and. Cause I was looking to add stuff to my playlist and I just let it play because I was like. I was making a point. Like I can't just. When I was growing up, when we were growing up, you get a CD, you just press play.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And it'd be 13 hits and it'd be like maybe 10 money. Yeah. And a couple. You'd be okay. Like I remember. I don't think I ever, ever skipped Scarface, the Diary or anything Pac or Biggie had on at that time.
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B
Definitely not skipping.
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A
No, you weren't skipping anything. You were just letting it play.
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B
Yeah, absolutely.
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A
Snoop's first couple albums, same thing. There was just Warren G and those guys and they came out like. It was just. You just. I was all west coast.
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B
But there was also. But think about what you just said, right? All these artists that you just mentioned, right? It was like this color, like a Bob Ross painting. There was all these different colors of styles. Like, you knew if it was an NWA record, if it was a Public Enemy record, if it was Nas, if it was one, if it was Mobb Deep. Everybody had their own style today. I couldn't tell you who's who.
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A
No. I think once the auto tune and the. I think things changed when the Southern style of rap kind of took over.
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B
But some of the old. The older, early 2000s Southern rap was great.
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A
Masterpiece. Yeah, they had it.
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B
You know, it was incredible. It was just.
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A
But it just turned into, like, auto tune.
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B
Yeah. And there's no.
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A
The rhymes went away.
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B
There is no.
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A
It was just kind of sing rapping.
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B
But the kids today. I mean, that's.
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A
But the kids like it.
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B
And that's the thing. Like, we can't sound like our fathers.
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A
Cause I do. Yeah, I. I like that. That, man. I. Terrible. I do. Just terrible.
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B
I sound like my dad now. I look up at the sky all the time ago. Yep.
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A
I get it. Yeah. You know, I do that a lot listening to.
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B
But it's like, why, though? Like, what happened to, like. Like, Ghostface new album, Supreme Clientele 2 is retarded. It's amazing. You know, it's Red Man's Muddy Waters, too. Amazing. Because.
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A
Is that Lala is the hit. I heard Lala went nuts.
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B
Yeah. But is that. Because we love that sound.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And it's where kids don't like it.
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A
I'm retweeting on X and this is nothing.
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B
I'm like, you got.
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A
What are you. Nothing. You're not hearing this damn song. Nothing. And. And piss. But you know what? It's okay to get old because we still buy.
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B
Right?
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A
You know, like, at least there's some stuff for us. Because there's nothing for me in the new stuff.
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B
No.
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A
Because I cannot relate.
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B
No. And I mean, that's why most of the shows I've been doing, I've been very fortunate. Like, a lot of these shows I do now are either, like, I love the 90s pop 2000. I do a lot of stuff with Chris Kilpatrick from NSync. Been doing a lot of stuff, like with Vanilla Ice, raw bass, you know, Montel Jordan. I love the 90s tour. Then I do the Tacos and tequila tour with T.I. and Rick Ross and, like, stuff like that. So I've been doing all of these big concerts. I'm kind of spoiled now because I haven't really done clubs. I've been doing all these awesome, like, throwback shows. And I get to be me and I get to do what I Want.
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A
Are, you know, because the pandemic kind of hurt me.
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B
I didn't.
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A
Everybody.
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B
I didn't work for. It decimated me. I didn't work for 18 months.
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A
Are they coming back to the concerts? Is it?
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B
Yes, absolutely, 100%.
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A
Is it a different crowd? Is it the older crowd?
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B
It's the older crowd. It's the crowd that grew. That's what I love about it. Because they know who I am. They know who these artists are. They want to be. And they have money too. And they don't want to be like, let's say Vegas, right? They don't want to. Like the pool parties are great. Marquis, pool, all these. It's great. The dj, but it's all young kids and at our age. And I'm not trying to sound like I'm an old bastard.
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A
Listen, man, when I was bodyguarding and we went to Vegas and did pool parties, I was like, it's too crowded and is too hot and all these people get out of my way.
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B
Right?
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A
Because I, you know, I'm just.
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B
I don't have time, right.
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A
I don't want to hear anymore.
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B
Right?
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A
Like, yeah, once the music got loud, once I told my kids, hey, turn it down, I was like, I'm done.
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B
Yeah. And there's no place for this, our age group, that Gen X age group to go. There's a few good parties that happen, like these day parties now that are just like 35 and up and it's just all like early 90s and 2000s music. And it's over by 7 o' clock and everybody goes and has a great time.
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A
Get to school.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And you know what? What's crazy to me is. Cause I think about the ability to continue to reinvent yourself. And I don't mean any disrespect by this, but like the DJ to be able to get on the ones and twos, the actual album and spin and create has kind of gone by the wayside because now you have guys who just press play.
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B
Yes. I don't do that.
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A
No, no, you don't. Yeah.
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B
I never will.
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A
And here's the thing, there is a difference. They'll say music. No, no, no. There is a difference. It sound. When they brought albums back, at first I was like, it's dead. But I like the sound of the music coming off an album better than I like hearing it coming out of my Apple player. Of course, it just sounds like you hear everything.
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B
So even with me, right? Even though it's digital now, I don't play mp3.s, I only use a WAV or an AIF file because it's just sonically that much better. And I don't use Serato. I use RekordBox, which is from Pioneer. And to me, that program just sonically sounds better. And I love Serato. Don't get me wrong, they're great to me. But for my choice and because I cut a lot and scratch a lot, the industry standard with most DJs in hip hop is Serato. In the industry standard in house music is record box. But I love record box for both. Like, so if I'm doing a house set and I'm on the CDJs, yeah, I'm showing up with my little stick and I'm doing my little boom boom thing. And because I do have two sides, right? There's street slang, which is all my tech house stuff with my partner Dom Tafaro, that we have a bunch of records out. Like, I have a big record coming out with Busta Rhymes in January on Bumbosa Records, which is Harry Romero's label. And the Martinez brothers have been playing it for like two straight years and we haven't put it out. So we can't wait for that to come out. And then you got the hip hop side of me, which is still balls to the wall. I gotta perform. I don't care if there's five people or 5,000 people, I'm doing my show.
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A
It doesn't matter what size you go out there, because if you only have five and you kill it, you're gonna have 10 next time.
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B
Correct. And that's the way I. Oh, that's my mindset all the time. I mean, from everything I ever done, like, I've gotten to do, from a club to the super bowl, to the Pro bowl, to the All Star Game, to be in the first DJ ever to headline a USO tour during the war in Iraq. Like, you know what I mean? I was in Iraq and by Syria and all over Kuwait, Iraq, on the border of Afghanistan for almost a month with Naughty by Nature. And that was one of the most greatest gigs I've ever done in my life. I love doing a lot of stuff for the military because I was supposed to go into the military, right?
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A
So it's nice to give back.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Do you ever. Do you ever see, like, the Rock and Roll hall of fame putting DJs in?
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B
Well, I think they did. And they put. I think they put AM in.
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A
Did they put AM in? I know he was nominated. I know he got in there.
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B
I think he got In.
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A
But there's a long list of guys. But there's a. There's a long list of guys that you sell.
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B
But I never got into it for any of that.
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A
No, no, but you. You should. Well, you can't. Here's the thing about a hall of Fame. In anything, no one gets into the hall of Fame. Just one day, someone looks at you and says, this guy's a Hall of fame guy. Right. You know, when you. Your name, people say, yeah, this guy's one of the greatest of all time.
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B
My biggest. My biggest thrill is when I have a kid, even a young kid today, that knows their history, you know, about DJing and everything else that comes up to me and says, I became a DJ because of you.
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A
Right?
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B
That's.
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A
I get that with wrestling and. Right.
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B
I'm sure you get that with wrestling and tv. It's the greatest. Other than my children is the greatest thing that I could ever be told because that means I've touched people from here to Japan to all over the world. And back then, think about it. Like I said now, you press a button, you're global. Back then, you had to have a physical piece of music, Whether it was a cassette, whether it was a physical piece of vinyl, a cd, you had to have a physical everything.
- [20:45]
A
You had to wait to know who I was. Yeah. And to get it somewhere, you had to actually go there. Even toys, like when I was a kid, if you wanted the new GI Joe guy, you had to save four proofs of purchases and mail that shit off and wait 16 to 18 weeks to get your sergeant slaughtered up. We all.
- [21:00]
B
Everything had the first DJ to have a toy, too.
- [21:02]
A
Oh, nice.
- [21:03]
B
Yeah, I had Scribble Spinheads.
- [21:04]
A
That's nice. Yeah.
- [21:05]
B
In 2003, we're the number three selling toy toys R Us that year.
- [21:08]
A
Hey, you know they're bringing Toys R Us back.
- [21:10]
B
Yes, they are.
- [21:10]
A
I'm happy about that. I'm happy about it. It's one of the happiest places in my life. Because whenever your mom brought you to Toys R Us, good things was gonna happen only if the evilest of parents would take you to Toys R Us, not let you get shit, just let you look.
- [21:24]
B
Exactly. I had a toy out called Scribble Spinheads. And it was like little things.
- [21:29]
A
It's a cool thing. Like when I had my action figures come out. Like the first.
- [21:33]
B
When you like, Come on, bro.
- [21:34]
A
When I came out, I just remember.
- [21:35]
B
Staring at you and be like, wow, that's crazy.
- [21:37]
A
Right? I was 12 again, man. I'd Be like, you know. You know. But let me ask you this, though. With all your success, I deal with this a lot, man. Do you. Do your kids like your work? Do the kids like your music? Because I'm. My kids. Don't watch me.
- [21:52]
B
My kids, you know, it's funny because they know you.
- [21:55]
A
Right, right.
- [21:55]
B
My oldest is in High Point University. He's actually taken media production to be behind the board out there and everything else. My middle guy, he's going into the Air Force, and he's going in rotc. My daughter, she's really into music, and my. My middle guy's really into music. My daughter's more into my stuff than my other kids, though.
- [22:12]
A
Right.
- [22:12]
B
But they. But they've gotten to experience some really cool stuff, you know, whatever it is, because of what I've done. I mean, they've sat ringside at WrestleMania. They've done America's Got Talent. They've. They've seen me perform at a very high level at stadiums and arenas, and that's when they get the kick out of it. But to me, I'm just dad to them.
- [22:31]
A
Yeah, I get that.
- [22:32]
B
I'm not cool. I'm not cool.
- [22:34]
A
The biggest thing my kids hate is when people come up to me. Yeah. Be like, hey, Tyrus, blah, blah. And I remember my daughter was like, that's not his real name. His name's dad, you know? And I was like, you tell him. You tell him, tell him. But I'll be like, hey, I got a new toy out. And they'll be like, yeah, they don't. Do you have Roman Reigns?
- [22:49]
B
Yeah.
- [22:49]
A
You know, you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, sure. Yeah. You know, like, can you get. My son does that to me.
- [22:54]
B
Same thing with the kid. Like, my older kid.
- [22:56]
A
I need to get me tickets to.
- [22:57]
B
Go see Swedish House Mafia. I'm like, all right, great.
- [23:00]
A
Yeah, I. You know, I hope they open for me, but how do you now. Being a. Life on the road is not as glamorous as people think. When I've been all over the world, know, like, what. What sites did you see? And it's like, hotels, airport, show.
- [23:14]
B
That's exactly right. I mean, there's a few times that I've gotten.
- [23:16]
A
There's always an always.
- [23:17]
B
When I was in Jordan, I got to see Petra. I've gotten to see. I've gotten to see some really cool. But I made it my business to do that no matter how tired I was. Look, when I was at the top and the peak, you know, I rolled with three people. And you Know, everybody's rolling out red carpets for you. You get to do whatever you want, you know, when, as you go. I travel by myself, dude, you see?
- [23:36]
A
You would travel. Yeah.
- [23:37]
B
I mean, it's like I got to put money into my family right now. Like, that's it. Like, I don't need all that glitz and glamour. I don't, you know, give me a good hotel room, make sure my equipment's right, and a good sound system. I'm happy.
- [23:48]
A
Yeah, I do my tour with just me and my little tour manager.
- [23:52]
B
Yeah, I'll take a tour manager with me, too.
- [23:54]
A
That's about it. That's just to keep, you know, make. All I got to do is go in there and I just do the mic check for me, do all that stuff.
- [23:59]
B
Sometimes when you're on the road a lot and you're by yourself and you're sitting in your room, you start going through your head. You don't want to do that either. Somebody.
- [24:05]
A
It's a lonely life. It's very lonely, you know, and. And that's a lot of people. They just see the result. They see the. They don't.
- [24:12]
B
They don't see the early flights of, you know, like, for instance, you know, I did Spokane the other day. The flight was delayed. I didn't get there until you, you know, you know, almost four o', clock, went right and did soundcheck, did the show, stayed for two more hours, got back in the car, back to the airport, back home. You know what I mean? It was like.
- [24:29]
A
And then as soon as you walk home, it ain't. It ain't rest and relax. It's like, hey, take out the trash. You got to deal with this kid. You got to deal with that.
- [24:35]
B
I'm lucky that way. They know when I come home, the one. Especially if I do an East Coast, west coast, or I do a longer run when I come home. Just give me that day. I just need that one day to decompress. I get. I'm very lucky like that.
- [24:46]
A
Yes, you are.
- [24:47]
B
My girl takes care of me like that. She does.
- [24:49]
A
Well, we got. Well, the problem is, is that my family travels now, too. So when I get home, the wife's exhausted because they've been doing horses.
- [24:56]
B
And usually that's Sunday. So that's the only day, because then Monday is CCD for my daughter for religion. Then Tuesday is practice for my daughter for softball. Wednesday she's been invited to Rutgers, and she's now training with the coaches over at Rutgers. She's only 13, you know, and they Told me some amazing stuff last night about my daughter, which was incredible. And then when. And then. Then Thursday's practice and then Saturday, Sunday's tournaments.
- [25:20]
A
Right. You know, like.
- [25:20]
B
But again. But you also miss a lot.
- [25:23]
A
A lot, a lot.
- [25:24]
B
Like, I didn't never miss. I made it a point. And this is when, you know, my kids were born. I was at the top of the top, and I could call more shots, you know, now stuff, you know, like, she's got a tournament in Hershey, Pennsylvania, this weekend. I'm not going to get to see it.
- [25:36]
A
Right.
- [25:36]
B
My girl is taking her, and she didn't birth her, like, you know what I mean? Like, she didn't sign up for all that. So. You know, you also have to have an incredible support around you as you're getting older and you're in your seasoned years, you know, to have that support around you from your family. Because without that, bro.
- [25:52]
A
And they got to keep it real with you. Yeah.
- [25:54]
B
My girl keeps it real, all right.
- [25:56]
A
She just. Hey, I don't care who's cheering for you, you know, this is where it matters. The chairs. The only chair you should care about is what comes from home.
- [26:03]
B
That's all I care.
- [26:04]
A
And the first one to tell me, like, hey, you're getting a big head. Yeah. You know, I know my girl will.
- [26:08]
B
You know, pop me in two seconds.
- [26:10]
A
And sometimes you don't want to hear that because the. The ugly side of it is, is that a bunch of strangers will tell you whatever you want to hear.
- [26:17]
B
Of course.
- [26:17]
A
And you. But there's nothing there. It's an empty.
- [26:20]
B
But have you not noticed as you got older, I don't know if. Can I curse on you?
- [26:24]
A
Yeah. Yeah.
- [26:24]
B
There are no. You have no left to give.
- [26:27]
A
Yeah. No, no, Exactly. Right. You don't.
- [26:29]
B
You. You can't. You can't be. I can't be around negative people.
- [26:32]
A
People. No.
- [26:32]
B
Like this. As soon as I hit end, like, goodbye.
- [26:35]
A
Yeah. Or they're complaining about everything that happens is somebody else's fault.
- [26:41]
B
Yep.
- [26:41]
A
Or anything they do wrong, there's a reason for it.
- [26:43]
B
Yeah.
- [26:44]
A
This is when I'm like, why is this done this way? Well, you have to understand, this morning I got up and my mother. What does that have to do with what we're doing right now? Do you want to hear what I heard this morning? My wife called me an asshole and said I was immature and to shut up. Am I crying? Am I not going on tonight? Right. Like, she hung up on me three times. Like, what? You know, we're here. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, I still got to go on. I can't be like, hey, I had a fight with the wife and feeling kind of down, guys, so I'll see you all next week. No, hell no. It doesn't matter. Nobody cares. Go. Nobody cares. You do your job.
- [27:13]
B
Nobody cares about that. And that's the one thing I've, you know, I've noticed as I've gotten older and doing these shows, you know, the most important thing and, and why we do it changes as well.
- [27:23]
A
Yep.
- [27:23]
B
You know, I never got it. I never dreamed. Dreamt. Sorry. I never dreamt in a million years that I would get to the level that I got.
- [27:32]
A
If you told me that I was interviewing presidents and I would have looked at you like, you're crazy. Right? What would I. Fox News.
- [27:38]
B
Why exactly? Like, like, you look, you've like. And I've watched you from the jump when you got on here to where you, what you did.
- [27:47]
A
When I first got on, I was like looking like I was going to get hit by a car or something, you know, because I was like, man, my acting career is going to hell. Rest. Wwe like, oh, well, you're on fox. I don't know if we can do a reunion, you know, and I, and now it. You stay the course. Because I was like, I'm gonna bet on me. And then I look at like hat maybe if I would have. Because my situation was I want to start doing more. And I, it started, with all due respect, I got tired of being told by people what my success level was going to be. That's the thing about wrestling is that people don't understand. And not just that, it's like you, you want to be the main lead and you keep getting cast as the, the, as the co star. And then you get to a point like, no, I want the lead. And they're like, we don't feel you're the lead.
- [28:24]
B
Right.
- [28:24]
A
So be happy with what we're putting you in. Because you know what, there's about a hundred thousand other guys that would take that chance. And then you have to make a decision. Do I just fall in line? Or I say, you know what? No, I'm, I'm a top guy.
- [28:34]
B
You know, how many times. And that, you know, from a different life I had that were telling me like, you know, yo, you're done. Give it up, Dukes on, you know, your time is gone.
- [28:44]
A
No, like I say when I'm done.
- [28:47]
B
I. Exactly what I said. I said. I say when I'm finished, when I'M done and you're not going to tell me any different. And I, I did. Because to me, I always tell my kids, can't means won't.
- [28:57]
A
Yeah.
- [28:57]
B
There is no such word.
- [28:58]
A
There's a. Here's the thing, though. When there are some situations where you see a guy who stays too long, but it's always somebody who was like, had. Was on the top for so long, and then instead of having a graceful, like, the time is up. Usually it's an age thing. Right, Right. It's usually an age thing. And then the time where you should be retiring and smelling the flowers and letting the next guy come on.
- [29:22]
B
Right.
- [29:23]
A
Those guys that. Hold on, you know, in wrestling ran rampant with it. You know, like all the legends, the top guys would refuse, you know, the list goes, you know, because that, Listen, it's also because they never bothered to invest in anything else but what they were doing. They. Their family life sucks. You know, they've alienated everybody. Yeah. The crowd was more important than being home and stuff. You have to learn by. You have to. You have to screw up and lose a lot to realize that. Like, you know, like, oh, I just. I just ruined my marriage because I wanted to stay out late drinking with the boys at a bar.
- [29:57]
B
Right.
- [29:58]
A
And then you get to the point where you're like, I'm going to lose my marriage if I don't change, or whatever your situation is, because eventually the crowd stop. That's the thing. The quietest time is when the show's over, you walk back in the green room, everybody's gone, and then it's your life.
- [30:12]
B
Yep.
- [30:13]
A
And the worst feeling in the world is if you look in your phone, there's no text like, how's the show?
- [30:17]
B
Yep.
- [30:17]
A
Miss you, can't wait for you to get home.
- [30:19]
B
Yep.
- [30:19]
A
And there's nothing there. And that is the worst feeling in the world.
- [30:23]
B
I know. I've known that.
- [30:24]
A
Well, I, I've been. Like I said, I've been there. Yeah. My wife is. Is. She's earned. She's earned her bars. But it's you. You think about and then you realize and it always takes. You have to get older. You have to. Once you start getting, like, around. Once you start getting around that 50 range. How old are you? 52.
- [30:39]
B
I'm 57.
- [30:40]
A
So, yeah, once that 50 hits, your entire mindset changes also. Everything else change. Can't get out of bed. You know, my son wants to wrestle with me all the time, and I'm like, tell me I used to be able to throw him around, like, nothing. And now he's 14. He's 6 5. And, like, he grabbed me the other day, and I got mad, like, he just grabbed me, and I was like. I was like, hey, don't you ever.
- [30:59]
B
Yeah, my middle guy was the one. My father said to me. He's like, I hope you have one just like you. And that's my middle guy. That's my Frankie. And. But watching him grow and I. You know, how I've raised these kids is. I look at it through their eyes. I don't look at it through my eyes. I was that age once. I know what I. I know what I did at that age and how crazy. So when I'm trying to discipline or I'm trying to, you know, guide them, I also put myself in that position again as a kid.
- [31:29]
A
And do you. And I don't think to get the bumps and scrapes. Huh? Do you allow them to get the bumps? Yes. It's hard.
- [31:35]
B
It's hard sometimes, but you got to.
- [31:37]
A
Kind of let them. You got to let.
- [31:38]
B
As they get older, when they get to that, you know, my. My middle guy's 18. My older guy's 20. He's going to be 21. So now. Yeah, you up. You're going to.
- [31:45]
A
You got to take the L. You're going to take. You got to go through it. I'm here, but I'm not. I'm not pulling.
- [31:49]
B
You just happened. He came home for.
- [31:51]
A
For.
- [31:51]
B
He came home for fall break last week, and he wanted to see his girlfriend, and he wanted to go to the college dorm and see she goes to Seton hall, whatever. And he didn't get it cleared that he could stay over there, but he still went anyway. And I knew it was going to happen. And sure enough, 11:30.
- [32:08]
A
Dad, I can't stay here.
- [32:10]
B
I'm like, well, now what you gonna do? How you getting back?
- [32:13]
A
Yeah, can you send me money for an Uber?
- [32:15]
B
I'm like, no.
- [32:17]
A
Got your ass in it.
- [32:18]
B
I mean, I did it, you know?
- [32:19]
A
I mean, I got him at least made him sweat. Oh, God.
- [32:22]
B
I tortured his life.
- [32:22]
A
Let him sit for an hour. Yeah, I told Walking.
- [32:25]
B
Now I torture their lives.
- [32:26]
A
Yeah.
- [32:26]
B
Yeah.
- [32:27]
A
Because if I wouldn't even call, I would have just started walking. I would have just started walking on my father.
- [32:32]
B
I called my dad.
- [32:34]
A
My mother would have been like, well, first of all, what the hell you doing with a girl anyways? My mother would have been like, my mother didn't play. She's like, I'm not gonna be a grandmother before I'm supposed to be.
- [32:41]
B
So that's the one thing. Like, at least I hope, like, they're smart kids. They never got into the social media stuff. They never got into the drinking. They never, you know, and it's. That's the scary thing when you send these kids off to college. And, you know, I know what kind of crazy son of a bitch I was growing up. You know, I was a rock star at one point. Like, you know what I mean?
- [32:58]
A
Like, I think it's different because Generation X, we had to do everything for ourselves.
- [33:01]
B
Yeah.
- [33:02]
A
Our parents were. They were just. They.
- [33:05]
B
He was just there to make sure.
- [33:07]
A
Go outside. Yeah.
- [33:09]
B
They would worry about it.
- [33:10]
A
Yeah. Like, put some mud on it. Now if.
- [33:12]
B
You know, now we look at our kids, they get a little scrapes. Oh, let me fix that.
- [33:15]
A
It's. I butt heads all the time. I like life lesson, you know, and, you know, my wife's like, nope, baby's cut. We got to handle it. And I just. But again, at the same time, I think it's your life experiences, especially when you've had success and failure, and you're okay with it.
- [33:31]
B
I think you have to be with the.
- [33:33]
A
Okay. You gotta take the L's, you gotta.
- [33:34]
B
Be okay, because then there's no success.
- [33:36]
A
Right.
- [33:36]
B
And I tell my kids that all the time. Especially my daughter right now, being competitive as she is in sports, I'm like, you know, she has to learn how to accept that failure. And then when she does that failure. But then I'm like, well, why did this happen? Because you didn't work on this hard enough, and now you got to go back and work. Like, you can't. I tell her, like, you can't just go to practice sometimes, kill it, and then don't come home and work on your craft.
- [33:58]
A
Exactly.
- [33:59]
B
You know, like me growing up, when I was DJing, that's all I did outside tunnel vision. My friends would want to go out. I'm like, no, you were in the laboratory, my basement, like, trying to.
- [34:08]
A
Trying to find the one thing that makes you different.
- [34:10]
B
Correct.
- [34:10]
A
But that one thing that made you different gave you longevity.
- [34:13]
B
Correct.
- [34:13]
A
And you're. That's why you're one of the guys who, like. I used to be a great dj, because you. It is it. But music is the one thing that kind of comes back around.
- [34:21]
B
Of course. You. The thing about what was great about me, and there's no shelf life, is because you could be hot and cold, hot and cold, and I've been hot and cold. You know, I've been to the Tippy top of that mound. I've been kicked down to the bottom. I've climbed back up it, you know, all my life. I mean, like I said, we're at, what I started in 1980. It's 20 years.
- [34:37]
A
You've lived about four lives.
- [34:38]
B
Yeah, I've played. Yo, I'll never forget my 25th anniversary in Cancun was for spring break because obviously everybody knew me for spring break stuff. And this girl came up to me and she's like, my mom saw you play here in 1999 and she said, if you were still playing here, I needed to come see you. I'm like, what's your mom's name? You know, But I was like, whoa. But, you know, just. It was like when I, when she said that to me, I was like, yo, like, it was mind blowing to me.
- [35:05]
A
All of a sudden you're generational.
- [35:06]
B
I'm like, I played for your mom. Like, now you're here to see me. Like, that's wild to me.
- [35:11]
A
And you realize I'm getting old.
- [35:12]
B
Well, besides that. Yeah, I don't do spring break anymore. It's immoral.
- [35:16]
A
Now, where can. If someone like, for your next shows and stuff like that, where can people.
- [35:21]
B
Look on Instagram @dj scribble with a k @dj s, k r, I, B, B L E, Same thing on Facebook. That's all on there. I'm starting to get into tick tock now because everybody telling my daughter told me I have to.
- [35:32]
A
I'm. I'm not. I got a couple.
- [35:34]
B
My daughter told me I had to show, I have to do it.
- [35:36]
A
Yeah, I let my wife handle all that stuff, man.
- [35:39]
B
So I handle all my social media.
- [35:41]
A
Social media is I want to go drive to somebody's house and beat them up. That's all ends up happening is I'm like, yo, sign a waiver. I'll bring you on the show. Just so I can just, Just sign here, sign here.
- [35:51]
B
I mean, it's in a curse like social media. I mean, there's so much crap out on it.
- [35:55]
A
Brutal.
- [35:55]
B
But, you know, in order to stay relevant, you.
- [35:59]
A
Yeah, I mean, it's a necessary evil.
- [36:01]
B
It's a necessary evil.
- [36:02]
A
I just, I get tired of it. One of the, one of the things I usually do on the area, I give coaching tips at the end of the show and usually I do it. And like we try to give advice, right? So. So I end the show. Like, I always give advice. Like one of my biggest pet peeves is I'm like, always put your shopping cart away. Like, as I cannot. I have very little respect.
- [36:20]
B
Like, if you. If. Like, if you're at the shop and you see somebody just leave it in.
- [36:23]
A
The parking lot, I will confront.
- [36:24]
B
You'll confront.
- [36:25]
A
I'll be like, what are we doing? Like, it's. It's. It says a lot about a person.
- [36:30]
B
I used to do that.
- [36:31]
A
To me, it says a lot about.
- [36:31]
B
Your integrity, but I used to do that. But again, as I've gotten older. Older. I have to put it back now.
- [36:37]
A
Well, no, no, I put it. What I do is my comfort is I take it and I do the loud. Oh, man. I got it. I guess, you know, 10ft was too much, because at one point, I was at a place where there was, like, 10 shopping carts, and I was like, I got it.
- [36:50]
B
And I put them.
- [36:51]
A
Because it. First of all, they get in the way. Everyone's parking. It's not safe. And it just says a lot about you.
- [36:56]
B
Well, you know. You know the commercial about not becoming your parents? Yeah, I'm that guy. I'm becoming.
- [37:01]
A
My mom would leave. I'm becoming my parents because that was my job. Yeah, that was, like. As a kid, that was a point of pride. That meant I was a big man. Like, I'm that guy I trusted 15ft away from the car without mom. My brother had to get his ass in the car, get the seatbelt on, and it would be like, hey, you can take the. The shopping cart to the thing. And I'll be, like, looking at my brother like, this, man, shit right here. So I look at it as this great honor. So when I see people not doing, I get offended. And another thing I always say, I think I'd say is like, fellas, open doors.
- [37:30]
B
Oh, I open doors for everybody. That's one thing I said. And when they. And they get shocked, a lot of people, and I'm like, my mama taught me, right? Like, that's one thing I'll. When I see. When I walk into a store, I'm always opening a door. I'm always kind. Like, I've learned, especially through Covid and all of that, that patience and kindness. Like, if you throw me sugar, I'm giving you honey, you throw me salt. I'm coming with you with pepper. But I don't want to do the pepper. I just don't have the time for that. There's no reason that negative energy is just. It's destructive. And when everything goes on in this world, you don't need that right now.
- [38:08]
A
So your coaching tip would be just be nice.
- [38:11]
B
Just be Nice.
- [38:12]
A
Be nice, ladies and gentlemen.
- [38:14]
B
That's it.
- [38:14]
A
It's just.
- [38:14]
B
It's not hard. Like, we don't have to be out there.
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A
You don't have to win every argument. No.
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B
That you don't.
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A
And you don't have to start every argument and you don't have to prove your point.
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B
No.
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A
And you're not on tv. No, I can't. People who. Like a lot of people are sick. No one's watching. You know, it's just you and me in Target right now, bro. Like, I'm going to put the shopping cart away. Have a good day, sir.
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B
Yes, sir.
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A
You know, so. Okay, so we've added to the coaches thing. Put your shopping carts away.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Hold the door open, be nice and just be nice.
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B
Yeah.
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A
That's it.
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B
There's a beautiful world out there. If you just take a 30,000 foot overview and look and take a step back and there's things that you cannot control in your life. Whether it's bills, whether it's this, whether it's that. But that doesn't. I told. I told. Don't let the tone of your life control the tone of your voice.
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A
That. And that's. That's some serious coaching you got. You kids paying attention to that.
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B
Don't let the tone of your life.
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A
Hear that.
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B
Control the tone of your life.
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A
Yeah. Because otherwise you're gonna hear my tone and you knock. But no, it's true. But that's.
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B
But that's true. That. And I live my life that way. Like, I've met some amazing people in my life.
- [39:19]
A
And I being a radio guy, you're like, hey, what's up, man? How are you? I say, hey, what's up? We were friendly. We weren't like, I'm tired. You're tired. Like, you know, whatever. And even the people around us weren't. I think that's where we're getting looked at. It wasn't because they recognize us. It's like, who are these two guys? Get off being sociable to each other in the TSA line when everyone else.
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B
Is pissed off in the morning.
- [39:38]
A
Yeah. And also because we're travelers.
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B
Yeah.
- [39:43]
A
And we pack appropriately.
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B
Yes, we do.
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A
Do not overpack. Would be my other coaching tip to add. You don't need to bring.
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B
Although. No, I like when I go on a long trip. I mean, I like pillow. I bring my sneakers.
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A
But the difference is I bring a lot.
- [39:56]
B
You can fit my girl hates. Because I have just the suitcase for my sneakers.
- [39:59]
A
Okay. But you also can fit a lot of your sneakers. In a suitcase. I cannot. I have to have one clean pair, size 17.
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B
So do you have, like, them custom made or they actually make them?
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A
Actually, I would have a lot of.
- [40:10]
B
Guys that, like, where does one find a size 17?
- [40:13]
A
I have been lucky to where I got hooked up with. When I was bodyguarding and coming up and chasing football, there was a equipment manager for the Los Angeles Clippers who, like, I ran across him randomly, right? And he was like, what size shoe do you wear? And I was like, 17. He's like, just give me your address. So he sent me, like. And he sent me all my favorites, man. My 11s and my. And my threes and fours. And he sent them all to me. And he sent me a box, like, boxes taller than me. He's like, we have so much of them. And, you know, because otherwise I had to shop at like Marshalls and get two years ago style. And then I just had built a relationship with Nike. And then when they're. When they went to the app, to the order thing, I got this direct thing for the athletic thing where there's a lot of big shoes. So now it's just whenever they get threes and elevens, they just send them to you. And I save them because my wife got sick of me keeping them. So I keep them up stacked up in my office.
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B
So how many sneakers you say you got?
- [41:08]
A
Probably say around 200 if I'm off the top of my head. Because I don't throw anything away.
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B
Neither do.
- [41:13]
A
I'm a hoarder. Yeah. When it comes to shoes and fish. Yeah, I'm a hoarder. And all my fish tanks.
- [41:18]
B
Like, I have all the boxes that my studio equipment comes in. I keep everything. Because she's like, well, why do you keep the box? Because maybe one day I'll sell it and if you have the box, it's worth more money.
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A
Well, I always say, like, well, if the kids need to make something for school, they have the. Because my boxes are awesome. You know, like, you can. You can. You can make all projects.
- [41:34]
B
You talk about your shoebox. Oh, yeah, forget. You can make.
- [41:38]
A
Yes. Flip it open. You do that. You know, we did a little pterodactyls hanging in the yarn and stuff when we were in school. So, yeah. But I. That's one thing that I had to get better about was like. Because I'd be like, well, you just got two new shoes. Throw one out. And then I would just be staring, going, well, that one only has a scuff. That one only has a thing this one's might be a.
- [41:56]
B
My shoes get a scuff. I'll lose my mind. Yeah, I, I, I like, I'd like these.
- [41:59]
A
These are the mob stepping on shoes is go time. Yeah, I really wear, I rarely wear.
- [42:05]
B
Like, like these is the second time I ever wore them. I figured I'm coming to mar. Because Marvin the Marsh is like my favorite thing in the world. So, like, I have these clock. Kent got me these, actually.
- [42:14]
A
Yeah. That's very cool, man. Hey, man, I appreciate you so much for coming on.
- [42:19]
B
Thanks for having me.
- [42:20]
A
I'm sure I'm gonna run into you the airport again. Gotta have you back on again once we get things rolling because I want to hear about how the tours and stuff going and then you should just.
- [42:27]
B
Let me DJ your holiday.
- [42:28]
A
Yeah, we should do something like that. We should do a DJ party in here. Yeah, look, you think you're invited? This is.
- [42:35]
B
See the generation, your boys out there, they knew everything. They knew a lot.
- [42:40]
A
Yeah, they're, they're very.
- [42:42]
B
That was good. I was very happy about that. They're, they're very good on and they're very. And he's a DJ and a producer, too.
- [42:47]
A
Oh, he wears a lot of hats. No, I, I did not. I just knew he, he had three pitches, he had a curveball, he had a split finger. Oh, this one. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I got, I didn't see him. I didn't know there was a fourth guy back there. And then the dude behind our ones and twos right there, he's married a year, right. So he's, he's finding a way, actually. I had a guest give him horrible advice. I had to jump in, tell him to play video games in front of his wife. I was like, are you out of your mind?
- [43:13]
B
I do that all the time.
- [43:14]
A
You play in front of him?
- [43:15]
B
Yeah, I play. I play Battle Battlefield 6. Right now, she doesn't get mad at you, but now she knows, like, because I don't do it a lot. There's only certain. Okay, like this, like, the last of us. I was like a loser for like a month. Like Battlefield 6. Right now, I'm a loser. When Grand Theft Auto 6 comes out, I'm going to be the biggest loser.
- [43:36]
A
I have to play with the kids. Like, I, I'm obsessed with this.
- [43:39]
B
You shouldn't. I see, I can't do Fortnite and.
- [43:41]
A
Me and my son, like, I watched my.
- [43:42]
B
When the kids were coming up, they were playing Minecraft. I just couldn't understand.
- [43:45]
A
I built, I've built Some amazing cities. Yeah. Minecraft. Yeah.
- [43:49]
B
I couldn't get.
- [43:49]
A
And without cheating with the create. I do not. Do not create. That's another coach thing. Earn that. Do not create and just build. And I'll know because when you have like gold roofs and stuff, like, you didn't mind all that, bro. My kids outgrew Minecraft.
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B
Yeah, mine did.
- [44:04]
A
I keep it because it's like to me, it's like reading.
- [44:06]
B
You still play Minecraft? You still play?
- [44:07]
A
When I like to relax, I'll be like, go back and check my farm, see how many chickens and stuff are doing.
- [44:12]
B
I just like with all I like. I love graphics. I need to have like, the graphics are terrible.
- [44:16]
A
But I also play my NBA 2k season non stop, like mad.
- [44:20]
B
And I'm like, there's certain things that you know. Or, well, mlb like, I'll have to like.
- [44:25]
A
But I have to play the whole season.
- [44:26]
B
Yeah, I know, dude.
- [44:27]
A
Yeah.
- [44:28]
B
When you remember when they had the. The Sony, the handheld Sony.
- [44:31]
A
I still. I have the.
- [44:31]
B
I have it. There's a new one.
- [44:33]
A
Oh, yeah. And it hooks right up to your PS5. No, but you. But.
- [44:36]
B
Well, could you take it on the road, though?
- [44:37]
A
I take it everywhere and watch movies and stuff on it. It's a little bit.
- [44:40]
B
And it has the games inside it.
- [44:41]
A
It doesn't need them. It's connected to your PS5. So whatever you're playing.
- [44:45]
B
So the PS5.
- [44:46]
A
So the app on your phone, this is PS1 on.
- [44:48]
B
It will like launch from your PS5 at home. Yeah, I need that in my life.
- [44:52]
A
Yeah, it's awesome. You sit there.
- [44:53]
B
I used to just sit on the plane and play mlb. If you got the entire season, you.
- [44:57]
A
Wi fi training your phone next to you with the app, it's on there. You connect it, boom, all your games. So you. There's any memory. So I'll be like, oh, let me pick up.
- [45:06]
B
I just got schooled. I need that in my life.
- [45:08]
A
My son. My son wanted it and I was like, you don't need it. But I might see.
- [45:14]
B
But okay. When was the age that you gave your kids video access to video games? They did you think it was going to be like the coolest thing in the world?
- [45:21]
A
Like, I'm going to get to play with kids. I used to give my kids, I want to get joysticks with no batteries in it. So they think they would play so I could play. They'd be sitting on my lap and they're playing the buttons and I'm playing the game. And then I think it was My daughter that figured it out. My youngest one was like, I want your joystick. I was like, no, no, no. You play with the fancy.
- [45:37]
B
No. But when they started to learn how to do it and that all.
- [45:39]
A
It was something we did together. Like, my kids never. My son plays. I think boys get a little more into video games. My daughter was an unbelievable shot in Red Dead Revolver.
- [45:48]
B
So Red Dead Redemption, you mean?
- [45:49]
A
Yeah, well, we call it Revolver.
- [45:52]
B
We never came.
- [45:54]
A
We just live on the prairie.
- [45:55]
B
And you did one or two? Red Dead two.
- [45:57]
A
One and two. But, like, I know he had tuberculosis. But I never finished the storyline was. I just live in the area. I hunt, I do a bunch of crimes, and I raise money. I pay it off.
- [46:08]
B
Yeah.
- [46:08]
A
But I will not finish it. I just live.
- [46:11]
B
The ending isn't incredible, bro.
- [46:12]
A
I'm not gonna watch him die. It's. That's my guy. Ride horses.
- [46:17]
B
Like, I. Like at the last of us, when I. Because there was. I went to the. I had no idea what that game was, right? And I was like, I was just finished. I think I just had finished Red Dead Redemption, too. And I wanted another game. And they said, like, yo, try this. And when that game started in the. And Joel's daughter gets blasted in the head, and I'm like, what the hell did I just sign up for? Yo. At the end of that game, I cried like, a. Like, a little. I cried at a video game. Like, that's how emotional. That was.
- [46:47]
A
Emotional. When my daughter shot a charging grizzly in the game with a rifle with one shot. So I got a dad. Bam. Yeah. Yeah, You. Oh, okay. We're on. Like, nice shot.
- [46:58]
B
Now I try to play Call of duty or Battlefield 6 with my kids. And they think they're fake. No, they think they're cute. Because I. I'll spawn in, and I'm dead in 30 seconds.
- [47:06]
A
So we play in teams of three, right? And my daughter will just climb somewhere because she's a shot. And my son and I will charge in, and we're doing all the shooting. But what she does is. Is she steals kills. So she'll wait till you get the guy down to her and you die, and then, boom, Headshot. I'm fine with it. But my son goes nuts. Like, you stole my kill. You stole my kill. And she's like, teamwork makes the dream work.
- [47:26]
B
That's awesome. And that's awesome when you do it together. Like, I do that with my. My Frankie now. Because we both got Battlefield 6, so we could do the teams. Yeah, I think that's awesome.
- [47:34]
A
So that's kind of where I play my basketball game by myself. But I don't do it at home anymore. I play in my office. Like, when I go home, I get on the game. I get it. It's like, you're on the road all the time. When you're home, leave, Leave your game.
- [47:45]
B
Well, I wait till they go to sleep. When everybody goes to sleep.
- [47:49]
A
See, the truth is coming out. He just didn't come home. And like, hey, everybody, how's it going? I got to get my.
- [47:54]
B
When I come home, I'm hanging out with everybody.
- [47:56]
A
My advice to you was sound, right? Do not ever turn the game on when it's wife time.
- [48:03]
B
No, no, I don't mean. Oh, now I know.
- [48:06]
A
Okay.
- [48:06]
B
Oh, hell no. Shoot me in the face.
- [48:08]
A
You. You will.
- [48:09]
B
She's half Spanish, bro. She'll gut me. Yeah, like, no, she did. That's it.
- [48:12]
A
You will be looking for your PS5. Anyone seen it?
- [48:15]
B
No.
- [48:16]
A
And it's.
- [48:16]
B
But I. I wait till they go. Go to bed and then I'll stick there. 10, 11 o' clock at night. And then until like. But then sometimes she's like, it's five o' clock in the morning. You're still playing this game.
- [48:27]
A
And like, yeah, I can't sleep. And they're like, well, try closing your eyes. Get off the game. Yeah, yeah.
- [48:32]
B
Like, I can't sleep without the TV on.
- [48:34]
A
I was banned from playing games in the house, so I have to play in my office.
- [48:37]
B
Then you were a super gamer.
- [48:39]
A
No, I just like to play my basketball game. But I play the full minutes, right? Oh, you play? I play. I played 12 minutes, you know, and. And I can't play just one game.
- [48:50]
B
No.
- [48:50]
A
And then I'll play that. Let me hop into Fortnite. And then I'll be like. One of my buddies will be like, hey, man, we're on Call of Duty, man. I'm there. Give me a minute. Let me get the headset. And then it's like.
- [48:59]
B
Then you don't. You wait.
- [49:00]
A
And then it's 10 o' clock at night, and I'm like, hey, the window closed at 8, so go back and play your games because there's nothing for you up in here. So a couple of those. And then you start weighing the treasure chest. Or the video game treasure chest gonna win.
- [49:14]
B
Well, you get to do that. And then you go back to the. The game.
- [49:17]
A
Yeah, well, no, that doesn't work. Then you.
- [49:18]
B
Doesn't work that way.
- [49:20]
A
I'm not that clever. I need. I just.
- [49:22]
B
When I guess I'm just a lucky son of a.
- [49:24]
A
You listen, there's. There's worse things in the world than having a wife that wants you present. It's when I would be worried. She's like, yeah, play your game. I'd be like, yeah.
- [49:33]
B
Then you know, you got a problem if. She's like, no, it's all right, honey.
- [49:36]
A
Play your game.
- [49:37]
B
Play your game.
- [49:37]
A
Would you like a drink?
- [49:39]
B
Yeah. Then you know, I'm going to leave. What I do.
- [49:42]
A
I'm not getting poisoned by playing, dying, playing a video game.
- [49:45]
B
I'm asking right away what I did wrong.
- [49:47]
A
And with my luck, it'd be Minecraft. And be like, tyrus died playing Minecraft. Like, my complete rep would be gone.
- [49:52]
B
Terrible.
- [49:53]
A
He's like, yeah, he was. He was battling a goblin when he killed over and then died, so. And apparently he was uncreative. It would be the worst way for me to go out. So it's like I said, I'm glad they even want me around at this point.
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B
Yeah.
- [50:07]
A
You know, because a lot of guys, I'm lucky, bro.
- [50:09]
B
Like I said, I came. You know, I come from a divorced life. I was married 18 years, and it was rough, and it happened during COVID.
- [50:16]
A
Yeah, I got the blessing. 18 years. But when I got divorced the first time, I was like, I will never do this again. And then I met my wife, and I was like, I'm glad I did this again. It's a weird thing. You meet the right person.
- [50:27]
B
Yeah, I'm a lucky. She's batshit crazy sometimes, and I hope she could hear that. Well, but they all got to be a little bit Bach crazy. But is there one thing I can say?
- [50:36]
A
One? I have never met her.
- [50:37]
B
The one thing I could tell you, though, is, like, she didn't sign. She never had kids. She didn't sign up. And what she does for my kids, I. I can't. I can't mess around with that.
- [50:46]
A
Well, you sound like, man. You are blessed, and you're living a wonderful life, man. And again, so glad I ran into the airport. I appreciate you, man. Until next time. Appreciate it.
- [50:54]
B
Thank you.
- [50:55]
A
All right, man. This is planet Tyrus. Enough said, Tyrus.
- [50:57]
B
Enough said.