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What it is America. This is planet Tyrus. That's right, Planet Tyrus. It's waters world, but it's my planet. Today. My. My guest, I couldn't be more excited, is Hotep Jesus. But before we get to him and his amazing career and profound thoughts, I'm going to talk to you a little bit about a little thing I like to call tie ranting. That's where I go off on a subject matter that's important to me. And then we'll probably talk about it today during our interview. But it's. It's funny, during these crazy. They're not even really crazy times, but these time, this time of division, how we keep hearing from pundits and news reporters and journalists about how this has never happened before and this division in this country and. And there's decisions and what's going on in the world is insane. And it's crazy. And that's actually the furthest thing from the truth. And it's like the funniest thing to how I figured this out. It's the weirdest thing. It was a childhood book that I read called Animal Farm. Now, when I read Animal Farm as a child, only thing I was concerned about was Boxer. That the Boxer, the horse. If you've read that book, Boxer was my guy. Because at that. At my age point, all I was pushed on was, you have to work hard in life. If you work hard in life, good things come to you. And Boxer in the book emulated that. He moved the rocks. He did the things. The only thing he would. I wish he would have done a little better is maybe pick up the reading a little better, you know, get his education in order. But with the exception of that, Boxer was my guy. And you're like, well, why are you talking about Animal House? Animal Farm? My bad. Why would I be talking about Animal Farm in today's day and age? It was written in 1942 and literally is the blue book of exactly what's going on with right now. Same rhetoric, same division, same thing. So if we continue historically to see these behaviors and these type of. Of this type of propaganda, why are we so surprised when it happens? And why are we never prepared to really deal with it? Why do we wait till it gets to the point where neighbors who have different opinions of who they vote for don't speak to each other? They get so caught up in fighting for people they don't even know they. Politicians become best friends that they have no idea who they are. They become bigger than life or anything that there's absolutism. And these are all Marxist things that have historically keep showing up. And it's always eventually defeated. But I never understood why we don't get there. And you're like, oh, I don't know if I believe you. Okay, perfect example. I'll take a little quote here, right? One of the things that we see, and today we call it virtue signaling, but they had it back then, too. And it's very simple. And I quote, no one believes more firmly than comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. But sometimes you might make the wrong decision, comrades, and then where it would be? So what it basically means is that the government officials, yes, you're all equal, but they have to be a little more equal than you because you don't have the intelligence or the understanding of how the world works. So they have to make decisions for you. And to do that, of course, you. They have to benefit from it. Like, they have to have the finest. They have to have the finest houses, the nicest cars. You can continue to work and struggle, but don't worry, they're going to make sure your life is better. And for a lot of people, they eat into that. And it's a Napoleon. For those of you who have not read the book, Napoleon was the lead pig who kind of ran a little coup within a coup to take over the Animal Farm. Basically what the Animal Farm is, is that one day the animals got tired of humans and they said they had enough and they ran them off the farm and they were going to start their own government and it was going to be way better than the government, the way that people did things. So they were going to start from scratch. And their first rule was everybody's equal and everybody shares the same thing. And it always starts out that way. And then as things mature and as things go on, it's really about one person. It's really about that leader and his narrative. And then he has what I like to call in the book, the name of the pig was Squealer. But I actually call pundits today. When you see somebody on a, on a CNN or MSNBC or even in some cases even Fox that comes on the show and they push a narrative and it doesn't matter what question you ask them, doesn't matter what agreement or disagreement has, they don't break from that narrative. And if you don't agree with the narrative, you are the problem. And then they will go after you to keep their narrative alive. For a perfect example, Napoleon is always right, right? The leader is Always right. Absolutism, blind party loyalty, cult of personality and ideology. And politics is day and night. We are watching over your welfare. It is for your sake that we drink that milk and eat those apples. By the way, that was the best milk and the best apples. None of their apples touch the ground. So all the apples, they hit the ground. And the horses and all the lower people in society, they can have all that. But the fresh apples on the tree, that's for leadership. That's for your political power. So that's. And do you know what would happen if we pigs failed in our duty? The people would come back. So then they got to scare you. Like, if you don't vote for us, democracy was going to end tomorrow. In this case, the farmer was going to come back. In our case, we'll lose all our rights. There's no democracy. And he would come back. Shirley. Comrades. And cried Squealer almost pleadingly. They're emotionally invested in their lie because people suck in and they believe it. And whenever, whenever you get that, then you end up having the situations you have today, what they want you to be. And even in its Animal Farm, which is crazy because the sheep didn't get much of a big role in the book, but that's what they want us to be, just sheep. They tell us when to eat, they tell us when to go. And if we follow in line and we're not free thinkers and we don't question things, then it's fine. And that's what we've been seeing to where one party went this route, the Marxist route, to gain control. And unfortunately for a lot of Americans, the extreme left jumped in on this. I think the pandemic had a lot to do with it and has really changed in scope the way we are as Americans right now. It's almost like we are living two countries sharing the same space. And the aggressive and the rhetoric and the violence that we've been seeing is a result of that. And usually that's the. The good news is, is typically, historically, usually that's the beginning of the end. So I'm hopeful for that. And when you think about such a crazy book written in 1942 and as a kid I read it and completely different. I like I said, Boxer was my guy. He was a big, strong workhorse that did all the stuff. He eventually became a victim of his own circumstance. He dedicated. He blindly followed political leadership, his narrative, whatever their situation was, he was with it 100 and his answer was always, I will work harder. I will work harder. And that I identify with that because as a kid, that's was like, if I work hard, if I do my homework, if I. If I run my laps, I'll do great things in life. So that message stayed home with him to the point it was his. It ended up being his own demise. He's moving rocks, he's moving around. He splits his hoof, which means he can no longer do the things for Napoleon and the pig regime that he used to be able to do. He was no longer useful. And he was relying on their promises of, don't worry, we're going to take care of you. This is why we're in trot. In charge. This is why we have the good apples and milk. And so he's like, oh, I'm good. I'll have universal health care. And I'll be. I'll spend the rest of my days in a beautiful meadow. And it was going to be great. But. But that's not how it works. The reality is they had no use for him. No more. And because he didn't educate himself and he didn't understand the world better, he ended up on a glue truck thinking he was going to a resort or a spa. And that's a lot of us. We don't actually educate ourselves enough in politics, or, I hate to say it, common sense when dealing with these politicians. If you have a politician who only ever talks about reelection and only ever talks about what the other guy's doing, he's not representing you, he's representing himself. It's very. It's very. It's so simple, it's scary. Sometimes when you look at what we. The dumb, we fall for. We should not fall when. When we call somebody on a bad behavior. And it's just, in your life. Let's take politics out of it. If you are married to someone and every time they do something wrong or hurt your feelings and you say, hey, why did you. Why did you show up 45 minutes late to pick me up? I don't understand. And they'll be like, the reason why was because in the morning, you made me upset. You threw my whole day off. Like, no matter what you ask them or call it, there's always a reason for why they do things. It's never a real response of like, hey, I'm sorry, I lost track of time. I apologize, I'll be better. We never see that with politicians when it comes to something. Whenever it's a vote, or in this case, you know, currently we're going through a government shutdown. It's always what the other side's doing. It's never, well, this is what we're going to do and this is how we're going to fix it. And we're, you know, we might have to take, you know, ladies and gentlemen, as I represent this district, we might not be able to get all four things that we want done, but I will negotiate, hopefully get two of those things. If a politician talked to me like that, I would, I would vote for the guy every time. But that's not how we're talked to. We're talked to like sheep to where if they don't get, if we don't, if our side doesn't get everything we asked for, there's no deal. And that's insanity and that's disruption because it's always the group that's not in power that's pulling all the, the, the. And what we're seeing with the Democratic Party is then once they got into power, power, they really tried to turn it up a notch with going after free speech and not in ways like it was back in. The way it was different was back in the day, you know, in the 40s and stuff. In places like Russia or Germany or Italy, when you said something they didn't like you, your ass disappeared, or you went to a camp or a jail in America, what they were doing was they didn't, you didn't physically go to a jail, but they physically put you in a box in a jail. In terms of you can't work at your job anymore because you're controversial, because you don't, you don't believe in, you don't want to get a vaccine, you don't want to get a vaccine shot, which in a free country should be your right, should be your choice. But then you're demonized and then on social media you're attacked and all of a sudden then your job's gone, then your friendships are gone. So you're not necessarily in being put in a jail, but your life is being altered to the point a lot of cases people weren't able to rebound for that. Or then people are seeing it happen. The, the audience is seeing one person being taken out in the yard and basically verbally stoned by social media and by politicians and late night talk show hosts and celebrities. And they're seeing this happen. They're like, well, hey, that's not going to be me, so I'm going to fall in line or I'm going to lie. So they, they automatically find ways to put you in These boxes. So, no, you're not getting dragged off. But then when they're, when they, when they're losing power, they tell you the other side's going to drag you off, even though they're the ones who were doing all the controlling of free speech. And we saw it during the entire Biden term, although I, I refuse to call it the Biden term. I think the auto pen term is actually more accurate. I think President Trump hit a home run with that one. That, that photo in the White House should stay up. But like I said, if you have, if you read Animal Farm as a kid, read it now. It's a quick read, I'm telling you. I read it in the airport. I think I read it in like 45 minutes. So while I was, while you're sitting for two hours in the Atlanta thing, waiting for your delayed layover to show up, crack that out, Read it. And then you go and you watch the news that night and you literally started signing names to people like, I have decided that I'm no longer calling journalists on panels journalists. I'm calling them squealers because they're a squealer. They go on there, they push their agenda. If anyone else challenges them. Have you. When's the last time you saw on a TV show where there's a panel and you have ones from both sides and somebody says something profound and the other side goes like, huh, you know what? I didn't think about that way. That's a good point. Wow, man. Maybe we could. You know what? Hm? I wonder. No. Hell no. If you say something I don't agree with, the first thing out of their mouth is one, if you're a man, you're toxic. If you're a white man, you're racist. If you're a black man, you're not really black. That's my favorite. That's my favorite. Whenever they take my blackness away from me, I'm just curious what's left? Like, when I'm not black anymore, what, what racial identity should I go by, perhaps? Is it. Which. Which would I fall into? There's never an answer for that either, because you're still black. And it's just, it's funny to me when you think about how hard they go instead of just listening and finding common ground. I always thought negotiation meant you might get some of the things you want some of the time, and both sides need to be better about doing for the American people and not doing for their reelection. Or, let's just be real, their pocketbooks I think that's probably the biggest thing that we're dealing with. We in Animal Farm, the corruption is different because it's based over food and power. In America, it's money, which leads to that. Once you get the money, then you get the power to quote the great Scarface movie, and then you can make all the decisions and you get whatever you want. So if you have time again, like I said, I don't get a dime for Animal Farm if you pick that book up. But I think if you are struggling with trying to understand or want a clearer, better understand of how this government situation is working in a situation to where a sixth grader can digest it and read it, this is a great book because we hear a lot of things said to us that are just all over the place. And I think it's important that you understand what exactly you're dealing with. So when you do see the squealers, when you do see the being flung, you'd be like, oh, that's not falling for that. Nope. I have a question. That's another thing too. One of the things in Animal Farm that they always did, no one was allowed to question anything. And we see that in the media. You never see a follow up question. You'll see a politician on TV so full of shit it's coming out of his ears and you're waiting for the, you're waiting for the so called journalist to say how so simple. How so how is that possible? How is he worse than Hitler? Can I have three examples of President Trump doing Hitler like behavior? And just for our audience, please describe to me what exactly is Hitler behavior? What is it? Give me an example. And it's the same thing. It's always the same thing. Oh, he's an existential threat. They use big words that don't mean shit and then they doesn't, you know, it's like the other day I, I went to a drive through and you know, I've lost a lot of what, 147 pounds, training and banging and listening to my wife telling me how to eat, right? And I rarely, I don't do fast food at all, right? And I'm going through and it was just one of those things where I had one of those days, let me get a chicken sandwich, I hit up a Wendy's, right? And I get to the drive thru and the lady says, sir, would you like that deluxe? And I was like, deluxe? Wow. What is that? Is that like extra, you know, fancy? Let me a lighter breast or some amazing sauce. I'VE never heard of. And I was like, oh, sure, why not? I'll have deluxe. And just, you know, what's deluxe? Lettuce and tomato. That's it. That's not deluxe, that's regular. We have taken a word, deluxe, which is supposed to be fancy and special and cool because it's deluxe. Like whenever you get a deluxe package on a vacation, that should be a bigger room, a larger bathtub, your king size bed, maybe some free tickets to the breakfast bar. That's deluxe. But now deluxe to us is the bar. They've just lowered the floor. Everything's on the floor. Deluxe is the floor. And you know, like, oh, hey, that's not a, you know, it's a. How are you comparing that to the political climate? It's the same thing. They take words that don't that should mean one thing and they change the definition of the word to fit their narrative. So now deluxe is basically average. So I'm no longer not to. Not that deluxe was a major part of my vocabulary. But if I was ever in a situation where I wanted to say, well, we have deluxe accommodations, I'm basically saying we have running water and, and I think all the windows close. And that's what we have to start educating ourselves about. We have to pay attention and spend less time watching. I know that sounds crazy, but you know, of course, you know, watch, you know, 10pm Eastern, you know, Monday through Friday, take an hour, you know, watch the Gutfeld show with yours truly. But you know, just break it up. Like, pick. If you're watching news 24 hours a day, you got to cut that in half or a quarter. Like, go outside, there's this green crunchy shit called grass. It's phenomenal. Like, go take a walk. Like get away from it all on the weekends, don't watch it at all. Just turn, you're not missing nothing. Just turn it off and get back into the world. Get back to knowing your neighbors. Start putting this political stuff behind you. Because once you understand it and once you see for what it is, you can call them out on their stuff before they even do it. And if enough of us get together, do it, they're going to have to change. Because what will happen is we'll start voting their incompetent, green, greedy asses out of office. Because that's really the craziest thing to me. All of them are there because of us. And that's the part that we can control. And once we realize that we can control those things and we can not don't Vote for a guy because you disagree with it, whether he wears an elephant or a donkey on his chest. Vote for a guy because you agree with his messaging and you agree with the things that he's going to do in your community. That's going to help you. If it doesn't help you, if it doesn't improve your family, then that's not the politician for you. Voting for someone because they're cool or voting for someone because the other guy's evil. You're placing your bet on something that is that you're being conned. That's the best way to describe it. Politics. We've all been conned. We've been conned to believing that our neighbors are our enemies and they're not. We all have the same problems. Democrats and Republicans have the same problems. Are there extreme weirdos? Yes. On both sides.
Hotep Jesus
But.
Tyrus
But those are the ones they put on camera to make us think there's more of them than there's more of us. And there's not. So I'll leave you with that. That's my tyrant. For whatever. Take your time. Read Animal Farm. I don't think. Is there a cartoon or a movie of it? I'm not really sure if there should be, but, you know, like I said, we should all start reading books again. Or I think there's probably an audio of it. If not, maybe that's how I can make my money. I could do the audio of Animal Farm. Just throwing that out there. There's Orwell people out there. Just give me a shout out. But. All right. I'm excited because I'm getting ready to move on. This is one of my favorite people. This brother is one of my favorite people. Every time he comes on the Gutfeld show, I know that there's. It's going to be a good night because one, I have to raise my game because he's going to bring something to the table. And you. And he's another one. I'm not going to say that that hotel is unpredictable, but he's prepared. I guess that's the best way I would describe it, brother. Both you are. You are prepared at all times, man. And thank you so much for doing this. And you're an interesting cat.
Hotep Jesus
Thanks.
Tyrus
You know, like you, you lived a lot of lives.
Hotep Jesus
I have a lot. Yeah. I wore a lot of hats. Yeah. Business hats, entertainment hats, podcasting streamer, business owner. Dad.
Tyrus
Yeah.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
How. You know, it's hard to get one job. And this is what. We have so much in common because we both wear A lot of hats.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
And I've been fired a lot.
Hotep Jesus
I've been fired from every job I've ever had.
Tyrus
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm good. I'm glad that I'm the only one that's honest about that.
Hotep Jesus
That's why I do this. Like, I tell people. I literally. Audience, I'm like, listen, you guys have to send me super chats and kick because I am not employable. I've tried to get a job, and I get fired. Six months later, I'm gone.
Tyrus
I'm not employable. Is it because you end up. Because I always got canned. Because I always end up being smarter than my boss and it start coming out like, I would just. Yeah, yeah.
Hotep Jesus
You know, so it was a lot of that. But in. In my latter years, it was. I was smarter than my. My teammates, right? So they always felt threatened, so they would do things to sort of sabotage my projects and stuff like that and, like, get gossipy and, like, not help or not. Like, like, for example, the last position I ever had, I told my boss, I said, listen, I'm head of marketing. Let me do the first hire. He said, well, I already have the person. It's content creator. I say, okay, what are they going to create? He said, blogs. I'm like, blogs are out. We have to get hire a video guy. Well, I already told I was going to hire. I'm like, no, it's videos. The future blog is out, and no one's blogging. Nobody's blogging.
Tyrus
Blogging's dead. It's up there with, like, tout.
Hotep Jesus
This is 2017.
Tyrus
Oh, okay. Well, it was a little blogging, but not.
Hotep Jesus
It was.
Tyrus
It blogging was. You were calling a few. You were calling him.
Hotep Jesus
Calling the future, right? So she comes in, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I had already had a successful block, right? So I was telling the girl how to block, and she was like, are you mansplaining me?
Tyrus
Oh, boy.
Hotep Jesus
I was like, oh, oh, oh. So then, you know, we're having a casual discussion in the office, and I said, I'm into chess. And she was like, how can you like chess when they call the masters masters? Don't you feel offended from slavery?
Tyrus
I love chess, by the way. That's one of my favorite games. I teach my kids how to play chess.
Hotep Jesus
I love chess. I play it all the time. So, yeah, so, like, I'm literally working with a feminist who literally won't listen to me, can't take direction, and it was just an absolute nightmare. So I was like, you know, What? I gotta do this on my own. So I left that job and just. Just decided to just figure it out.
Tyrus
Bro, let me throw. Because, listen, leaving is tough, especially when you have kids. Yeah. And priorities.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
And you don't know. And I'm assuming you have. We're making a decent salary. Yeah. And how much did. And you got to bet on yourself a little bit.
Hotep Jesus
Right.
Tyrus
That took me a long time myself, personally. It took me a long time to be like, you know what? This. I'm. I'm. I'm going for it. Because I always think, like. But I do. I am getting a check right now. Right. My mouths are fed. Like, how much does that go into it? When. When you start thinking like, you know what, man? This. This ain't for me. Yeah.
Hotep Jesus
You know, so I always had my own thing. So I was just stacking my paper. I was just stacking my paper, making sure I had, you know, 12 months Runway. So if anything went left, at least I could survive and still pay bills.
Tyrus
Hold on. Say that again. You did what you prepare? Well, I'm sorry. You were prepared. I believe I said that at the beginning of the show. No, because this is stuff that. And it's not just young brothers. Young men in general.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
They don't understand. No one's teaching them this in school. Yeah, you were prepared. See, I, at that point in my life, wasn't preparing. I was too worried about having a gold chain and trying to look successful.
Hotep Jesus
Oh, yeah.
Tyrus
I had.
Hotep Jesus
Did that in my early 20s. My early 20s. I was a mortgage broker at.
Tyrus
In your 20s?
Hotep Jesus
Yeah, I was a mortgage broker at the age of 20. No, 21. 21.
Tyrus
You took the test. All that stuff back then, you didn't.
Hotep Jesus
Need to take a test. See, this was early days. Right. So what happened was I was working at Cheesecake Factory, and eight guys come in at work at a mortgage company, and I take all their orders by memory out of photographic memory. So the dude asked me, how did you do that and not mess anything up? And I was like, I kind of just took a picture of your face.
Tyrus
Yeah, I do the same thing.
Hotep Jesus
And did association. So he was like, yo, I got a job for you. So I'm like, what's up? And he was like, yo, come do this mortgage thing. And I was like, I'm kind of killing. This is Cheesecake Factory. I'm making two.
Tyrus
Everybody wants a cheesecake. Even though I don't like cheesecake, I've eaten the Cheesecake Factory.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah. 200 meal.
Tyrus
That little chicken panini thing. Is phenomenal.
Hotep Jesus
Banging, like, everything.
Tyrus
But you're not leaving there without eating 9,000 calories. That's the cold part. Oh, no, you're. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you definitely. Yeah, you definitely. You got to make that a cheat week.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah, but I'm making cash.
Tyrus
Yeah.
Hotep Jesus
Bank every night. So what happened was, at some point, a manager from my old job that another restaurant came, and he actually got fired for grape. Okay. So when he saw me, his eyes lit up like, oh, snap. He knows my past. And I think what happened was I never worked a single Wednesday because I couldn't work Wednesdays. I think he went in and put me in as a Wednesday, and I got a no call, no show, and got fired for my first offense. I was always first, always on time, perfect employee. And when he came in, I believe he got me fired. I can't prove it. So anyway, I leave that job, and I was in my car, shocked, and I looked down and I saw that card. So I called the mortgage place up. Yo, what's up with that position? He said, come on down. So I went down there. No salary, no hourly. You get paid 100% commission. I'm like, oh, this is tough. So I remember I was staying with my homeboy at that time, and he was like, yo, it's a scam. Don't do it. Don't do it. I dug it out. First one I did was an argent. Argent was the name of the bank. I got, like, 1%. I think I made two. No, 400 bucks on my first deal. So he laughed at me like, ah, you only made 400. But I'm like, I know how to close a deal now, right? The next paycheck, I came home with five grand, and I just threw it on his bed. Like, boom. What now? So now I'm making big paper, but.
Tyrus
I'm blowing it all thousand. Yep.
Hotep Jesus
I'm blowing every last.
Tyrus
What were you. Was it clubs? Was it Cars?
Hotep Jesus
I had a record label.
Tyrus
Oh, okay, okay. So you were trying to. Okay, you were trying to come up.
Hotep Jesus
I was, yeah. I was trying to take tracks and.
Tyrus
Artists, and I had.
Hotep Jesus
I had artists. We were in the studio. I was doing Funkmaster Flex mixtapes. We were just. I was just moving a thousand miles an hour, you know, But I was. Had the fancy suits, the cars, the girls.
Tyrus
Right, yeah.
Hotep Jesus
The clubs. Because, you know, you have to keep the image.
Tyrus
You have to keep the image up. And where does that. Okay, let's pause you for a second. Let's go back. Where does your work ethic come from? Like, what is. You don't mind talking about your family back. Did you have. Was mom and dad. Was it Mom? Was it dad, like, what was it Grandma, like, who influenced you? Because this is a, this is. We never talk about the brother with hustle.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
We only talk about the LeBron James.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
We never talk about the dude who, like, basically took two sticks and built a Ford out of it.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah. I, I, I don't know. Like, I'm different from my parents. Like, my parents were W2 and I. So my, my mother, college graduate, master's degree, accountant for large firm. My dad, one of two black electrical inspectors in New Jersey. My sister, doctorate degree. My brother, like, super genius, 140 IQ. It runs a bank now. And I looked at all of them like, you know, y' all all got bosses, right? Like, you know, you all.
Tyrus
You're the cynic. Yeah, I was the sarcastic one. You had the ability to do everything they did, but you had a little something extra because you're like, I don't want a boss. Yeah.
Hotep Jesus
I'm like, I don't want people telling me, like, what to do. Like, I don't.
Tyrus
Like, that was my thing, you know.
Hotep Jesus
I hate, I hated having bosses. I hated teachers. I hated authority. I was a. They all. My family always called me a rebel, so. But I always had, like, this entrepreneur. Like, you know what it was for me, I just wanted more. Like, I, I, I just have this desire that when I get something, I want more, right? And I'm like, how do I get to the next level? How do I get to the next level? How do, like, after I, like after I, after I achieve something, I usually get bored with it. Like, I have to move on.
Tyrus
Like you. I used to have this thing where once I would accomplish something, I would immediately start thinking about what I haven't yet, Right? You never smell the roses. I remember one time someone said, hey, can you take a moment.
Hotep Jesus
No.
Tyrus
And just smell. No, because I'm immediately thinking. Like when I, when I, they asked me to be full time on the Gutfeld show, I'm thinking, well, I gotta get out on number and I gotta get on the five. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, I gotta turn this into something. And like, you know, and it's just that you never. I have, it's hard to sleep at night, right? Like, I have to shut everything down because if my brain starts going, it'll be three, it'll be five o' clock in the morning, and I'm still thinking.
Hotep Jesus
About an idea that's another one of my issues. I can't turn my brain off, you know, but, you know, it's that thing of even. Even stagnation is detrimental to me because stagnation had me in my mind, and I'll start thinking a whole lot of negative thoughts. So I'm the type of person who has to be busy. I have to have more than I can handle.
Tyrus
Right?
Hotep Jesus
So right now in my life, I have way more than I can handle.
Tyrus
Because you. I mean, your list of. Of stuff that you do is. Is like. Yeah, it's a lot, brother. Like, public speaker, tech advisor, author. You're a host, you're a podcast, and you're the host of the. Which I always watch. I check out all the time on. On X Hotel's been told your. Your podcast, your latest book is the Patriot Report. Yeah, I'm asking the Conspiracy of Money and War. Yeah, I mean, you're a marketeer, media personality. You got a movement. I mean, brother, you got a movement.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah. Shout out to the hotel Stanis, you know, and then.
Tyrus
Which is a lot of people. Here's the thing. Like, we have a lot. It's crazy. We have a lot in common because although I. I did the bodyguarding route, I was with Snoop, but you worked with 50 cents and developed the energy drink, which basically that gave him forever money. Like, you know, and he's able to do all these. These cool things. I've actually. I only. I think I met. Might have been in the same room with 50. I don't think I ever actually met him. I know at the time that I was with Snoop and stuff, everybody was kind of. I'm not saying they was hating on him, but 50 kind of came out in the club, changed everything. First of all, it became America's official birthday song. And I. I remember the first. I know I know where I was at. That's one of them songs that. You know, where you was at when that song dropped? Yeah, I was working at Club Vinyl in la. I was. I was. I was the bodyguard they kept inside the club because of the door I would always get. You know, I. I enjoyed telling Motherfucker couldn't come in. Like, I enjoyed it. Like, I saw a dude in a cheap suit and I'm like, Like, bro, come on, man. Yeah. You know, so they would always put me on the inside. And they're like, just stay by the. Stay. Anybody comes up here, just handle your business. Just don't fight. Just. Okay. Because I had a little problem with that. And I'm standing there and, and it was funny because at that time, Kevin Hart wasn't who Kevin Hart was. Right. He used to stand out in front of the club Vinyl in LA and like, just try to talk his way and make jokes to get his ass in the club, like Justin Timberlake and then would just stroll in, you know, And. And I think he was dating Uma Thurman at the time. And it was all these people in the club and I'm just, you know, stoically standing in my corner. And that song hit, it just dropped. And I mean, I didn't. I'm not one to dance in clubs and. But when that, when that hit, I was like, damn, you know, like, oh, what the hell? Who is this? Like, everyone was asking, like, who is this? Like 50 cents? I'm like, is that like, who is 50? Like, I'm trying to. Because west coast, we didn't really know. We didn't know about any of his stuff, you know. Yeah. That he's with Diddy and like all that. We knew nothing about him. Really.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
And Drake. Drake came out with Eminem and then he comes out with 50 cents. So I would imagine the other west coast guys, you know, that's probably why. I didn't mean he wasn't doing a lot of collabs. He didn't have to. Right. You know, like, he has one of the greatest albums of all time when dropped. But how did you. Because that drink was. It's a household name. Vitamin water.
Hotep Jesus
Well. Well, I was. I was zeroed out. Right. So you ever seen that movie, the Big Short?
Tyrus
Yep.
Hotep Jesus
That wasn't me.
Tyrus
Damn it.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah. So young kid, I. Making crazy paper, not saving any of it. There is no, like, I don't know anything about the stock market, so I never invested a single penny. And one day I'm on the phone and I'm talking to a dude named Lee Duncan at a bank and I'm trying to get a pre qual on a mortgage and he just picks the phone. He's like, bro, it's over. And I'm like, what? It's over. He hangs up the phone. I'm like, I've not. What. So I'm calling banks around to get pre qual. Nobody's picking up the phone. I'm like, what the heck is going on? Like, this never happens. Usually you call a bank, right?
Tyrus
Yeah.
Hotep Jesus
Pre qualification, blah, blah, blah. Couldn't get anybody on the phone. Mortgage industry crashed right in front of my eyes. I was zeroed out. I had reached to the point where I was Branch manager of a bank. So I had climbed all the way to the top of the industry. Branch manager, killing it. Just hired two of my homies and put them on, training them. I had actually three because I brought my boy yolo on, too. Crashed right there in my face.
Tyrus
Is that. Do you. Do you struggle with that? Like, when. When is one like you? Always. Because I have the same group of friends. I've had pretty much my whole life. Like, you know, I got a few select. And you always try to bring them with you.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
And a lot of times it don't work. It don't work at all.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah. And you shouldn't do it.
Tyrus
And I hate saying that, because it's hard, man. Because what is it about this? I need to bring. I need to help, because I don't see it. And I'm just. And maybe I'm just culturally, I don't see a lot of white dudes with, like, yeah, man, I got my two hometown buddies on the job. It's always us that feel like we need to bring.
Hotep Jesus
It's two.
Tyrus
Is it comfort? Is it insecurity? Is it.
Hotep Jesus
It's a couple of things. It's. Number one is you feeling accomplished and you want to reach back. Another thing is you need a certain level of security. You feel safe with the homies around you. Right. You know, somebody's there to watch your back. Right.
Tyrus
Right. Because they're going to give it to you straight.
Hotep Jesus
They're going to cut it to you straight. Yeah. And it's fun. It adds a level of fun to the. You know, it's not just work now. You know, it's the homies. It feels.
Tyrus
It's not a power thing. It's not to sit there and be like, hey, I. I got you this job. No, that's not what it is at all.
Hotep Jesus
It's not a power thing at all.
Tyrus
Is it. Is it ever guilt? Do you ever feel. Do you ever feel guilty?
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
Like your success is almost like you.
Hotep Jesus
Absolutely.
Tyrus
Yeah.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
That's something that. And some of our friendships have waned because when they do come for help, you know, and a lot. It's always. It's always thousands. It's never, you know, and you're just like, the day you say, no, the friendship ended.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
You know, and that's. And that's something that, like, you, like. Well, if you're looking back with wisdom now, well, that's a good thing. That friendship ended because it never was.
Hotep Jesus
A friendship, it never was a friend.
Tyrus
But then also, now I'm Alone.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah. And so now I just, I, I, I build my friendships off of being an.
Tyrus
Yeah.
Hotep Jesus
You know, so I usually lead with.
Tyrus
Well, like, is it an or is it just being direct and honest?
Hotep Jesus
It's direct and honest.
Tyrus
Yeah. I'm saying it's like you're, you're an asshole for telling to be like, hey, I want to. Actually, no, I'm not going to do that with you. Nothing personal. That's just, I don't miss business with this. This guy's an asshole.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah. Or I'm just direct.
Tyrus
He's just being direct with you.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
It was not like you got up and punched him.
Hotep Jesus
No.
Tyrus
Grab him by the shirt and like, shook him down.
Hotep Jesus
That's exactly what it is. Because, you know, before, you know, sometimes you lead with love and, and, you know, care, and, and now it's like, I got that loving care, but I got to be straight, direct so that, you know, in the future I'm going to tell you no. So, like, the first thing you, like, the first time somebody asked me for something, the answer is no. Like, no.
Tyrus
Why?
Hotep Jesus
I just feel like saying no. Just so I set that benchmark that when I say no later on down the line. You're already used to me saying no, right? Because there's gonna come a time where I have to say no. Like, I literally lost a friend recently because I fired his son. Like, but he got mad at me and I'm like, you weren't on the phone when I hired your son. Why would you be on the phone when I fired your son?
Tyrus
Exactly.
Hotep Jesus
And I gave him a very simple job to do. I said, yo, run the social media. I give you a thousand bucks a ten tweets a week. A day. Ten tweets a day.
Tyrus
And couldn't do it.
Hotep Jesus
And he couldn't do it or wouldn't do it, or didn't. Just didn't do it. Didn't do it, didn't do it. You know, and I'm paying $8,000 a month just to knock that out. I could have paid my 12 year old to do the same thing. You know what I'm saying? So, and I lost a friend behind that. Like, we, I haven't spoken to him in like a year. And it's just like, you know how I am in business, bro. Like, I, I, I can't just waste money, you know, I just can't waste company money. But, you know, it's, it's hard when you work with friends and, and it's something that I don't think I'll ever do again unless we're both in cash, right?
Tyrus
And I. Because being in the entertainment, like, every time I get like this, getting my own podcast, Planet Tyrus, there's always this need where a buddy's like, well, hey, man, I really ain't got nothing going on right now. You know? And it's like. And then I always struggle with this because I always feel like all of a sudden I look at all my friends as we're equals, right?
Hotep Jesus
Right.
Tyrus
When the power dynamic changes to where they're coming to me, we're not equals anymore. And then I'm in that situation to where now I'm talking down to you.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
And then it's like, but I. And I don't like being talked down to. But then again, I wouldn't ask my friend for a job. I would go get a job if that makes, you know what I'm talking about. So we get into that dynamic and it always ends up bad. Because when they ask, the answer always used to be yes. And what I noticed is, is that once you do it once, then it comes back around. Because I had a friend who could never pay his rent, right? He was always like 400 bucks short here. 300 bucks. And, well, not a friend. He was my brother. And always. And it was always the landlord did this, and his boss, the check was late. It was always like, all the world problems seemed to just happen. He had a big ass rain cloud around his head around payday. It was always something. Wasn't those payday advances.
Hotep Jesus
It was possible.
Tyrus
Yeah. And it was always. And finally one day, because it started out, first it was like 300 bucks, you know, then it was 400. Then it was, oh, it's, it's. I need to cover the whole month's rent, you know, like 1200 bucks. And like. And his attitude's like, well, you in the wwe, like, you got money.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
Yeah. But not for you, right? You know, like, I work for this and. And to finally one day say I. I could set a watch to it. The 20th, I was gonna get a call that checks were late again. And like, you know, his landlord is ruthless and he doesn't want him coming to his house. And they've got small children, could I come and he'll get me back. Problem is, he never got me back.
Hotep Jesus
No.
Tyrus
I finally said, bro, you owe me like 45 grand at this point. Like, I can't do this anymore. Right? You know, so how are we gonna fix this? And this is a brother, my brother. And I'm like, how are we gonna fix this? And I was like, hey, man, why don't you just fly down and you could just do some work around the house and we can start taking some of the stuff and I'll help you. I'd rather pay you than give you money.
Hotep Jesus
Right.
Tyrus
So, you know, try to do all that stuff, and once people know you have it and they think they can manipulate you, that relationship is never going to be good. And all he did when he's going down there, this dude, like, snatched. I put 200 on the. On the refrigerator. On a magnet for the cleaning lady, because I always put her money on refrigerator. She's like, asking me, call me up broke English. Did I do something wrong? No. What's going on?
Hotep Jesus
He on crack?
Tyrus
She's like, there's. There's. There's only $2 on the refrigerator. I was like, $2? No. Two crispy C notes on that mug. What are you talking. And I'm flipping out. I call my brother up, and he was. He flew back home, and he was like, oh, I thought that was for me so I could upgrade my Southwest ticket. I was like, okay, bro, the 200 with the post it that says made on it. Just wrote on it, man. And. But I. I didn't know at the time while he was there, he was getting bank information and everything else. And the next thing you know, when you cut. And then eventually when you cut them.
Hotep Jesus
Off, it hurts a little bit.
Tyrus
It hurts a little bit because you know you're never going to be the same again.
Hotep Jesus
I. I did it recently. I did it recently. I got a. I was helping a friend because, you know. You know, what made me. What made me help people was the pandemic. I was like, a pandemic hit people hard. So I felt like because I was in a decent position, I should help a little bit. Right? So I helped a couple of family members, a couple of friends. So I helped people out. Right. More than I probably should have. Right. Paid whole rents.
Tyrus
Yep.
Hotep Jesus
You know, and it's 20, 25 now. And I got that phone call, and I sent a couple of dollars. I got that phone call again. I sent a couple of dollars. Then that next one came around. I didn't pick up the phone. Then that text came. I didn't pick up the phone. And then I got that, hey, if you don't want me to contact you anymore.
Tyrus
Yeah, like, anymore, like, your friendship, family's over because you're not giving me money. Like, bro, you had a whole year to get your shit Together, that's like, I can't, man. It mirrors so much. Because when you finally say no, their answer is, I don't want to know you anymore. You're the problem. You're the stuck up rich asshole. You're the Uncle Tom. You. You don't look out for your people.
Hotep Jesus
And I'm not even rich.
Tyrus
That's the cold part, man. Thousandaire at best, you know?
Hotep Jesus
Yeah, I'm like a thousandaire at best. I got four kids, I got my own rent. And you still have to scale your businesses.
Tyrus
Yes.
Hotep Jesus
Right. So like, so, for example, it's like, if you keep taking money from me now, I can't help you later.
Tyrus
No.
Hotep Jesus
So let me get rich now. And then I can come back and be like, yo, I got a job for you. You can just sit here and do nothing and I can pay you. I can just put you on payroll to sit in the corner. Just watch my back for two hours.
Tyrus
I can remember when I was out of football, trying to get back into football, trying to figure it out. I worked at Pizza Hut, making lunch pizzas with a staff looking at me going, we used to watch you on Saturday mornings, like, why aren't you in the NFL? And I'm just trying to make this school pizza madam. You know, I'm just trying to. Because I had a whole. I need. I have something coming in. Yeah. You know, so I'm working in Pizza Hut. And remember they offered me the position to manage it because you know, if you work, you rise up. And I was like, no, no, thank you. I'll just make my pizzas until I get the call. Right? And luckily I did get a phone call to go chase Baltimore. But I remember those experiences working and washing dishes at Carlos Kelly's in Nebraska while I'm on scholarship. I remember having those shitty jobs stacking cans at Walmart, working construction.
Hotep Jesus
I used to fold baby clothes at. At Macy's. Yeah, I was a seasonal employee. Yeah, it was crazy. I went in and I check this out. Crazy story, right? So I'm at a house party, we're all getting high and drunk or whatever, and this white chick comes up the stairs.
Tyrus
Oh, a white one. Okay, good.
Hotep Jesus
Redhead, right? Beautiful redhead. She comes walking up the stairs. It's like slow motion, music's playing in the background. And she's got like DSLs and I'm super high. And I'm like, Yo, you got DSLs. Right, right. And I didn't mean to say it.
Tyrus
It was. You have no inner monologue when you're high.
Hotep Jesus
When you're high.
Tyrus
Yes.
Hotep Jesus
So I say it, and she starts cussing me out.
Tyrus
And sorry. I'm laughing. Staff just figured out what that meant. So sorry. The staff's like, do we beep that?
Hotep Jesus
So I'm beeping. She's chasing me around the house.
Tyrus
Right, Right.
Hotep Jesus
All right. So they finally calm her down. Fast forward. Years later, I'm in for the job interview at Macy's.
Tyrus
Oh, no. Who walks in?
Hotep Jesus
It's her. And she's like. And I'm like, no, don't say nothing.
Tyrus
I need this job.
Hotep Jesus
I need this job. So we got cool. It settled down, but I ended up there. And I'm folding baby clothes at Macy's. And then the season's up, and they're like, hey, do you want to keep this job? I'm like, I wasn't supposed to be here in the first place, lady. She's like, but you're such a great employee. You show up on time, your tales never short. I'm like, lady, I just come to do my job. I cannot keep folding.
Tyrus
I cannot settle, because you'd be the best baby folder. And by now, my. My Pizza Hut lunch pieces would have been phenomenal. Yeah. I would have my own Made my own Pizza Hut store. I played my cards right. Yeah, that. Bro, we ain't even talk. Like, I don't even want to talk about politics, but I. But I have to.
Hotep Jesus
Let's talk about it. Let's talk. A lot going on right now.
Tyrus
There is a lot going on, but one of the things that I. That you. I'm. I pride myself on it. You do it consistently. You call balls and strikes.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
You are not. You're not forever elephant. Right. You're not completely ant. You are what's. You are straight up. This makes sense. This don't make sense. And for that, you're considered extreme.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah. Is that why, like, I'm radical?
Tyrus
You're radical.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
But you're just intellectual common sense. Yeah.
Hotep Jesus
And I. And the thing is, everybody's calling me radical, and I'm like, I thought you guys were the radicals.
Tyrus
I mean, even. Is it the braids? Do they just want it? Like, is it. I mean, I hate to say it.
Hotep Jesus
But, like, definitely contributes to it. It's. It's the braids. It's the Timberlands. You know, it's. It's definitely a little bit of that. It's my vernacular. It's my accent. It's. It's a few things. It's. But you know what it is? It's. It's Bravery. Bravery always seems radical to people.
Tyrus
Yeah.
Hotep Jesus
When you're ready to just speak your mind.
Tyrus
Because that's something that a lot of people, they only speak their mind if they know they have advantage. They only speak their mind when they're in control.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah. Or when it's advantageous.
Tyrus
Yeah. And I think you. You scare people when you challenge control. Right. Because a lot of people aren't comfortable with that. Or they're like, why you want to make waves?
Hotep Jesus
Right.
Tyrus
You know, why do you want to be that way? And I think during the pandemic, I think was probably, if you look like what's going on in England, I think with what they're doing with free speech over there. Was it 12, 000 arrests?
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
For just basically tweeting or saying something online about somebody or. Or not even some. Not like directly insulting someone. Just saying, like, I'm anti boys playing in girls sports. Oh, go get his ass. Like that. We didn't get that far.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
Because luckily, the one thing about our country is we have the ability to reset. But do you think we could. If the. If the election was different, do you think we'd be looking a lot more like London right now?
Hotep Jesus
Damn. That's crazy. That's a crazy question, because I. I never put my mind in a mindset where Hillary Part two won, you know, I never put my. My mind. And where Kamala won, you know, because.
Tyrus
If you remember, they had control of all the media.
Hotep Jesus
Right.
Tyrus
With a very few exceptions. But they. The one like Fox News was. Was put on every ban list then you had.
Hotep Jesus
It would be a shitty America if she would have won. Social media was controlled because, you know, I'm in crypto. So Trump's crypto regulations has just contributed to the crypto boom like crazy.
Tyrus
Oh, bro. That and I got into the stock market. I figured, you know, I saw Charles Payne. I was all over the place.
Hotep Jesus
What time is it right now? Because I got a couple of trades right now.
Tyrus
9:43.
Hotep Jesus
Oh, the market's open. I got an open trading view. I got options open right now.
Tyrus
Oh, we want to pull trades. Hold on now. Let me check my Tesla. Hold on.
Hotep Jesus
Trump's America. Oh, I'm up. Let's go.
Tyrus
Let me see here, Let me see.
Hotep Jesus
I'm gonna check.
Tyrus
No, no, you know what, bro? I. I got late in the game, but I figured it out real quick.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah, I do. I do options trading. I do options trading.
Tyrus
Options. No, I've. I'm really dug into that.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah, I do. I do. Every once, you know, I try to get one trade a week. You know, I try to go long on something. I got an AMD option in right now. I'm long till next week, so.
Tyrus
Oh, yeah, Tesla took a hit this morning. Not bad though. Cause we're up. Crazy.
Hotep Jesus
Tesla's been moving like crazy.
Tyrus
Yeah. I got into Tesla when it was down to like two.
Hotep Jesus
Oh, wow.
Tyrus
Yeah. When it. Here's the thing. When I saw the car burn and stuff, I was like, oh, I'm gonna invest.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
I jumped all over it. Yeah. And then I started just doing that cracker barrel. Everyone have to crack a barrel. I was like, scoop and score. Tko. Scoop and score. But yeah, my current average right Now I'm. I'm plus 41,000 for the year. So I'm doing all right. Damn, I'm doing all right. That's crazy. Yeah.
Hotep Jesus
So, yeah, you know, so like, that to me was huge. Trump comes in, starts deregulating, and now I'm like, oh, here we go. I can get back in my stock bag.
Tyrus
Right.
Hotep Jesus
Because it was kind of tricky when, you know, you can't just predict number go up.
Tyrus
Yeah. You didn't have Pelosi's guru mine stock market. Yeah.
Hotep Jesus
So, you know, If Kamala had won crypto regulation, you know, the stock market probably wouldn't be doing so well socially. The, the country wouldn't be doing so well. It'd be a complete disaster party. I'm, I, I. Did you remember Back to the future part two, when you went back and BIF10, that's. I think that's what America would look like.
Tyrus
Like Hill Valley, just giant Vegas sky tower. Yeah. With everyone else. Because I honestly think that we weren't that far from people being removed for the, for the Voice. It was happening. Yeah, but it was. But when I, when, remember, I forget that crazy ass lady who was singing about she was in charge of social media and she had the Mary Poppins song, Know what I'm talking about?
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
She was basically, she was going to be in charge of content and what was considered okay verbiage on social media and what was not. And of course, everything left was going to be okay and everything right was going to be extreme. And it wasn't until I was surprised that they actually pulled back on that because we were seeing just off the pandemic, any doctor that question. And like, when do we get into a point in this country? You can't question anything. Like science in itself is a question. It's never fully answered. It changes. You think you know something and then you find out later on that you didn't know enough or it was completely different. We still learning things all the time, and all of a sudden that stopped. So you. I agree. I think if Kamala got in, I think we probably would have been. We would have looked more like a socialist country in terms of how we. How we are, how we speak.
Hotep Jesus
I'm glad you brought up Orwell, because I'm a controversial figure when it comes to that topic. Okay. Because I'm an anti capitalist capitalist and an anti communist communist.
Tyrus
Okay. Please explain.
Hotep Jesus
Like, I'm a capitalist because it's fun and I have to be matching.
Tyrus
This is. You live in America.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
Right.
Hotep Jesus
And I'm competitive. I'm naturally competitive. Right. It's just man stuff. Right. Hey, but I'm communist too, because I'm like, if I was in charge, there would be no drag queen story hour. There would be no first amendment. If I were in charge. You say something I don't like, I'm throwing you in a gulag. So I like certain elements of good fascist communism. I just don't like it when other people.
Tyrus
Right. I like. I like telling my kids what to do. Somebody else tells my kids what to do.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
Shits on. Not on my watch. Yeah. Yeah.
Hotep Jesus
You know, but you know what?
Tyrus
That's. That's honest. And you know what? That's everybody. Right? Because me, I. That's why when people ask me all. And it's funny, they'll say, hey, Tyrus, you think you run for president? I think you'd be a great leader. I'm like, you don't want me as president. Do not want me. First of all, a lot of people I fired, they're getting a visit from the irs. Like, people who did me, I'm coming for them, you know, So I always. And not to mention the fact that I agree there's certain things because I'm always like, there is no such thing as hate speech. It's just speech.
Hotep Jesus
Right.
Tyrus
And. But I do think there should be consequences for saying outlandish that affects other people.
Hotep Jesus
Yes.
Tyrus
I think there's a difference between. I believe this, like what you just said. I am a little bit of this and I'm a little bit. This is whom I am. Take it or leave it. But when you make blanket statements to where like. And completely false. I mean, just lies about people and it's causing havoc or causes and you can prove it's connected to shootings or whatever, I think you should be held accountable. That's why I'm a Big fan. I don't think politicians should have qualified immunity. I don't think they do. Like, I get it for police officers, but even then, it should be a case by case business. There should be some things that qualified immunity can't save your ass from.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
If you inside a riot, if you are telling people that the only good Republican is a dead Republican and then some crazy bastard goes out and shoots one, you should be sitting in the court at the same desk as that person. Because words that we always say, sticks and stones, break my bones. The words don't hurt me. Well, words have become so powerful because they won't. Words inspire. Yeah. They don't hurt you, but they inspire.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
And whether you want to admit it or not, when you speak hate to somebody, that's their gospel. Somebody like, we go, I get to be on TV every night. And I always think in my mind, hey, man, whatever you say tonight, you got to make sure that you're not inspiring somebody for the wrong thing.
Hotep Jesus
Right.
Tyrus
You know, so a lot of times.
Hotep Jesus
Everything you say motivates people.
Tyrus
Right? Whether you want to believe, whether you.
Hotep Jesus
Want to or not, it's going to motivate.
Tyrus
And there's responsibility. Sometimes I feel a certain way about something. I'm like, you know what? It's too controversy because they're not going to understand my context.
Hotep Jesus
Right.
Tyrus
And I can't get it out. Like in Gutfield, you got like what, 45 seconds to a minute and a half. Sometimes it's better to not get into your personal stuff because there's not enough time to explain the context, you know, And God forbid somebody sees that and all of a sudden they're like, tyrus is right. We gotta. You know, because I. I'm. Especially when it comes to morality with. With children and stuff. Like, I just. There's no middle ground with me. I don't want to debate somebody who thinks it's okay for. For boys to be in the girls bathroom. We are never going to come to an understanding on anything. I'm an absolutist on that. No. At all. I'm also an absolutist when they. When they try to shove LGBTQ stuff down my throat about how I. Let's say one of my children is gay. The same rules apply to him as they would my straight kids. You're not dating. You're not going to be sexually active at 14 and 15 years old. You know. You know, the answer is no. So when I and I, there was one night in particular where they were talking about, there was a government program for LGBTQ prom where they were providing sex stuff like condoms.
Hotep Jesus
And.
Tyrus
And I was like, whoa, excuse me. How is this okay?
Hotep Jesus
Got arrest them.
Tyrus
Yeah. Like, how is this okay? And everyone was like, oh, no, no. You're being. You're. You're. You're. You're homophobic. No, I'm not. I'm a parent.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
My gay child, my straight child, they have the same rules. Ain't nobody. There's nobody allowed upstairs in your room. Right. Dating is. You can hold hands, maybe. And because I know mentally and my kids heart, they're not ready for that. Most kids aren't. Especially young men. Right. Men. We have young men. We have some of the worst ideas of what it is to. To know a woman.
Hotep Jesus
If anybody needs sexual control, it's definitely the man.
Tyrus
Yeah.
Hotep Jesus
Most people put the sexual control on the women. I'm like, okay, yes, I agree.
Tyrus
Yeah. They're in charge of the. The treasure chest. Yes.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
But.
Hotep Jesus
But the men. The men need as much responsibility as well, because men's biggest mistake in life is where they put their junk.
Tyrus
Yeah. Thousand.
Hotep Jesus
That's gonna be your first mistake.
Tyrus
I think Viagra should only be prescription and you have to go to therapist. Well, I think there's too much of that Viagra out there because dudes don't. There comes a certain point where you. When you're in your 20s, it's all you think about. Right. In your 30s, you think about slowing down and maybe finding a steady Betty.
Hotep Jesus
Right.
Tyrus
40S, you like, hopefully you still got one left. I want to be around your ass.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
You know what I'm saying? But then when you start going promoting on that 50, you're all of a sudden it's Netflix doc documentary night. And I ain't tripping, right? Because you know, when I was in my 30s, and it'd be like, hey, honey, we're gonna watch a movie in bed. I'm like, right, huh? And the movie would start and be like, all right, when we get. Are we actually gonna watch this ass movie? And then you start sitting there and doing often and get up storm and like, slam the fridge, you know? And then, you know, 40, it's like you kind of throw an elbow. Like, hey, you know, we.
Hotep Jesus
Well, fellas, if you're 40 and you want a little something something for the bedroom. Metavorter.com Go get your apex coupon code HJX. I got a. I got a pill for you. Apex. Metavorter.com Coupon code HJX15OFF works wonders. Thank me later. But you know what, man?
Tyrus
I got. I got a. I got.
Hotep Jesus
I got a. I got something to get off my chest, man.
Tyrus
Do it. That's what we're here for.
Hotep Jesus
We got to stop with the anti Jew and the anti Israel stuff, man. Yes, it's. It's. You know. You know what it is, is, can you criticize Israel?
Tyrus
Sure.
Hotep Jesus
I have no problem with that. But it's gotta make sense. It's gotta make sense.
Tyrus
You're criticizing them for responding to being attacked. Well, my heinous ways possible.
Hotep Jesus
Well, my issue is TikTok.
Tyrus
Yeah.
Hotep Jesus
Like, the new TikTok purchase to, like, Larry Ellison's a Jew. And. And I'm like, wait a second. Okay, so you'd. I literally saw an inside semi say this. I'd rather have China have tik Tok than Israel. And I'm like, oh, my God, you guys cannot be serious right now.
Tyrus
Because they're so art form. This is some ignorant.
Hotep Jesus
Like, even if I hated Israel.
Tyrus
Yeah. I'm not giving China the nod.
Hotep Jesus
I'm not giving.
Tyrus
China's literally telling you to eat detergent, you dumb mother. Like, what are you. Like, they're literally saying, hey, put dumb. Put NyQuil on chicken. Like, they're literally teaching us how to poison ourselves. And it is a challenge. Like, come on, man. Like, it's.
Hotep Jesus
It doesn't.
Tyrus
It doesn't even make sense, man.
Hotep Jesus
Doesn't even make sense.
Tyrus
Like, the. And here's the crazy part is, like, now, though, have you heard the newest conspiracy? What? Because you were. Conspiracy guru.
Hotep Jesus
Yes.
Tyrus
So October 7th was an inside job.
Hotep Jesus
Oh, the bombing?
Tyrus
No, the.
Hotep Jesus
The attack on Israel.
Tyrus
Yeah, it was.
Hotep Jesus
Who's saying that?
Tyrus
Because this. Actually, he was. This Israeli guy came up to me and he was telling me. He's like, well, you know, the drones and we see everything in Israel. Everything. We have cameras everywhere. Everywhere, everywhere. How they just walk in. How they just walk in. We have drones. We have satellites.
Hotep Jesus
Didn't they run a distraction?
Tyrus
I thought they. Yeah, I. I was like.
Hotep Jesus
I thought Hamas, like, had ran a distraction.
Tyrus
I think they went on one side or the other, but. Yeah, but I was. He was just going on and on. He's like, somebody. It was over land rights and they turned the back. And I was. He was just going on in this long, long conspiracy about it. And I. I just remember saying, you. You would rather. And I. I realize how people think it's more comfortable for someone. And he lives in Israel. It's more comfortable for him to think that somebody on his side opened the Door than knowing the enemy could kick it in.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah. Yeah.
Tyrus
And so that's the one that's circulating around.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
And I didn't. And it's one of those things where you're like, I. I couldn't have disagreed with him more. But I also learned, like, sometimes just let them talk, you know?
Hotep Jesus
Yeah, yeah. I like to. I like to hear everybody out. Yeah.
Tyrus
I just let them talk, like.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah. It's interesting. My thing is I have to look at things through the lens of perspective of a black male.
Tyrus
Right, Right.
Hotep Jesus
I have to. Society reminds me, you know, and I.
Tyrus
Get reminded all the time.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah. I'm always reminded. Right. If it's not somebody.
Tyrus
We're the only race that our. Comes up over an opinion. Yeah. I've yet to see a Chinese guy lose his Asian ness over having a conservative view.
Hotep Jesus
Right.
Tyrus
From other. You know, I've yet to see it.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
How many white guys are being stripped of their whiteness?
Hotep Jesus
Yeah. So, like, when I look at the relationship between Palestine and Israel, I have to choose the Israeli side, historically speaking, because of the, the relationship between Arab history and my ancestors.
Tyrus
Right.
Hotep Jesus
Like, my ancestors were literally enslaved first. Like, before the Anglo Saxon, it was that Arab Inquisition into Africa, that Arab inquisition into Europe, Western Europe, Southern Europe, you know, so it's not like this Arab contingent is just some innocent group of people. Nobody's innocent.
Tyrus
No one comes. Especially when it comes to slavery.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah. And in the most brutal form of slavery was actually carried out by that Arab contingent in that region in the Levant. Right. So, you know, Malcolm X said the chickens come home to roost. Right. Like sometimes, you know, you, you take a L. The, the, the Ottoman Empire took a L. The Palestinians, you know, you know, God, God bless them. But this is remnants of an old war, you know, and, and you can.
Tyrus
See that because the difference between a Palestinian and an Egyptian, there is none in terms of DNA. Right. It's the same.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
Person. Yeah. They. They're. It's like Ukraine and Russia. They share the same genetic code and they will not let their ass in because they know the culture has changed them to be a warring group. And no one can say that. But your own people, this isn't, this isn't in Germany and everyone else is letting them in, but their own people that if they held hands, you wouldn't know the difference. Said, hell, not just. No, no, like, built walls. Like, they cannot come in because they, their mind, their, their, their culture is against our. Like, they're still in a place that we've grown past Right. But no one ever says that out loud.
Hotep Jesus
Right.
Tyrus
Even what you're talking about. Any person who takes the time to want to learn about slavery, please do. Because it's an ugly thing. It's an ugly part of our world history. It's how the world unfortunately how we came to be. But you can't. You can't not talk about Portugal and you can't. And you can't talk about the church.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
Like the number one commodity in the world was there was three sugar, gold and human cargo. That was a three more. And you needed the humans to get the sugar and the gold. So that would. And spices. Right. Because apparently salt and pepper was.
Hotep Jesus
The spices were huge.
Tyrus
Yeah. You had to have a little, little paprika back then. You was balling you ball. But who. Whom did that? Slavery. So I always. When they talk about. Listen, man, what happened.
Hotep Jesus
Which was taught. Which was taught to Portugal and Spain by the Arabs.
Tyrus
Yeah, the Arabs molded the world. No one. I guess maybe people don't want to hear that, you know. But that's really what it is. All these things. Africa is the beginning and end all of everything and our. That is civilization. Does you turn a light on in your house? Guess what, bro? They had lighted streets when we were still. Well, they were. Well, half of me were running around with.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah, it's amazing technology like you have you got flight discovered in Africa. Right. If you look up something called the bird of Saqqara. Right. So there is knowledge of aeronautics. There is buried underneath that lake. Lake Osmond Asma. I can't remember the name of it, but there's so much. So for example, in ancient Kemet, there is actually knowledge of sperm. The smallest cell there's knowledge of sperm which goes like. Wait, did they have a microscope? Because how is it that they.
Tyrus
A lot of things that know of the sperm, especially in African stuff, there was help. And some point we ran the help off. Yeah. And there was. And then it was the help made it to where like you're never going to advance. We're take, you know, this much. I think a lot of our tech and without getting too much into the alien thing, I think a lot of our technology is based off backwards technology. From their advanced technology. We weren't able to recreate what we did. But with the stuff they left behind, we were able to make our own.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
Like we have to use jet propel. And then you, you know, they had a different thing. They were able to. I. I think the wormhole thing is becoming more and more evident. Being able to cut through stuff like that. Because every. You look at every. If you just have a clear canvas and you just write facts down, when you see the artifacts, when you see the drawing. These people weren't making this up. Patagonia wasn't doing the same. The same drawings in Africa that Africans were doing. Right. In Nigeria. You know what I'm saying? Like, came down, helped us out, got weird. We kicked him out, you know, whatever happened. But whatever happened.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
And that may be the. And if you want to get biblical, maybe that's what the flood was about. They tried to flood mankind out, but they. They picked the wrong apes to mix with, basically. I think that's what. They just weren't ready. Yeah, they wanted the hands and the thumbs to move, but they didn't realize the aggression.
Hotep Jesus
Right.
Tyrus
And the. The instinctive ability of. Of who we are to question. Because if you. Again, I don't want to get all into it, but I watch. I watch a lot of documentaries, but all my documentaries are animals. And the one thing that I watch non stop is anything with chimps in it.
Hotep Jesus
Oh, they got a great one.
Tyrus
Chimp Empire. I probably watched that. I've probably watched that a thousand times. I go to bed to it because I w. I watch it non stop. Drives my family crazy. I'm like, I'm watching Human behavior as gang warfare. Abrams, that's my guy, you know, And Jax is punk ass. His homeboys over.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
Where they set up shop. He was like, yeah, we go set up shop, we gonna get our own. They broke off and he was like, later, Marks. I'm in charge now. And like, his whole deal was like, he could never be. He's king, but he could never be alone because his homeboys was just looking for him, right? Pork chops. Little punk ass. I felt bad. Pork chop got smoked. But, yeah, I'm telling you, man, that's if you have. Not again, I don't. We don't get any endorsements from Chimp Empire. But, bro, where is season two? It's been a while.
Hotep Jesus
Season two will be fire. Yeah, it was. It was wonderful. But I brought all of that up to say, when we look at Ukraine and Russia, when we look at Israel, Palestine, people always want to go back 10 years. And I'm like, have you ever tried going back a thousand years? Because when you go back a thousand years, you find out that Ukraine used to be called Little Russia. So now when you say Putin wants to annex Ukraine and saying, well, that's technically Russia. Like, well, if we go Back far enough, it used to be called Little Rus, so. And the Ukrainians will say, well, I got cousins in Russia. And the Russians will say, I got cousins in Ukraine. And it's like, we hate to see the war, but it's like the west is getting involved with something. They got the. The idiot Zelensky. And frankly, I'm like, man, if y' all let Putin annex that area and just make peace, bro. Just. Just. But we know why they don't want to. There's a lot of, you know, capitalist ideas that want to come in. There's some money laundering, you know, there's some Biden stuff going on, you know, some uranium, you know, so there's a lot of money that's involved in that situation for. From the West. And then when you look at Israel, you know, you can't just have we looked at, like, a lot of people want to go back to the Rothschild, right? Or the Rothschild signed that letter, the Balfour Declaration, right? And I'm like, well, do you want to go back a little bit further than that to when, you know, like, maybe World War I, to when Britain actually took over that territory? Like, that's British territory, right? That's technically not Israel. Do you know what the British would have done to Palestine?
Tyrus
They wouldn't be it.
Hotep Jesus
There wouldn't be a Palestine.
Tyrus
Palestine. It'd be Britain time.
Hotep Jesus
It would be Britain. Hey, right? So it's just like, people act like Palestine has some autonomy and Palestine wasn't even a country.
Tyrus
No, still isn't technically. It still isn't technically.
Hotep Jesus
I mean, Palestine was not a country. It was a region of another place. I think it was part of Syria, actually. But, you know, it's like, people have to do their history before they get into.
Tyrus
Well, and that kind of ties this all into a bow because I talked about in the beginning about how go back and look in history to find the answers, right? And you just put a button on it. Go back a little further. Go back further if you're so concerned. Like, one of the things I hear about, like, reparation talks and things like that, I'm like, go back a little further because. Find out exactly whom deserves reparations. I don't have a problem with it if it's done right. Me, personally, I don't want it because.
Hotep Jesus
Oh, I got the reparations conversation, so.
Tyrus
Oh, well, the police enlighten, bring. Break it down for us.
Hotep Jesus
Dems must pay.
Tyrus
Yes. Okay.
Hotep Jesus
The DNC owe me some money.
Tyrus
The dmc. Okay. I'm with you on this.
Hotep Jesus
Democrats we keep voting for.
Tyrus
Yeah.
Hotep Jesus
If I go into the store and I buy a good and the good don't work, I need my money back. So I've been paying taxes to Democrat strongholds. I've been hiring you for a job.
Tyrus
You.
Hotep Jesus
You ain't been doing your job.
Tyrus
Break bread.
Hotep Jesus
It's time to give. I need.
Tyrus
What's a fair rate?
Hotep Jesus
A fair rate. I don't want to pay no more taxes. And. And I need all taxes I've paid back.
Tyrus
So what you put back what you've invested because you invested, you didn't get what you want wanted out of it. But the.
Hotep Jesus
You got to also factor in the money I would have made.
Tyrus
Made had they not been trifling.
Hotep Jesus
Had they not been trifling. And had I had that money and invested it right. So when we look. And my thing is, I hate when Republicans say they're anti reparations because your main argument is Democrats are ruined in the black community. You guys keep voting for Democrats. And I'm like, well, if, you know, Democrats are ruining it, then you know.
Tyrus
The argument for reparations for the Republicans to cut a check because they.
Hotep Jesus
It might. It might force.
Tyrus
I personally keep the money. Just. I would go for a lifetime tax credit. Like, we good. We good. Like, hey, just whatever is owed, right? We just X that out.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah, if I get a lifetime tax credit, that'll be nice.
Tyrus
That's what. You know what? That's what my one phone call to the president is going to be. I'll be like, hey, look, man, Tyrus, I was wondering if me and my buddy hotel, we have an idea. This is a crazy idea just for me and Tyrus. Yeah. Just for us just to try out and see everybody else, man. We got to work, worry about. We got to just take care of it. If we could. If we could have a pardon.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
From the day we were born till 2076 for all federal charges, which would then mean we wouldn't have to pay taxes. And we could do it brash. Be at the rest. Be at the restaurant. Be like, oh, that's what I have. My card.
Hotep Jesus
My trump card.
Tyrus
Yes, right there. My reparations card. It's gold. No taxes on this one. Cars. Oh, no. With the tax write up.
Hotep Jesus
That'd be so nice.
Tyrus
That would be nice. And I think that would. That would. Although my. My ancestors would be like, we came over from Jamaica, mother. Make a life. Your job was to work. That's the thing that reparation. It's that and it's opportunity. Just Keep making it to where the opportunity is there for everybody. Right. Because I. You are a living example of being able to not. One, keep reinventing yourself, taking on new challenges. Hard work always pays off. And being direct and using common sense might not make you the most popular dude in the little circles, but it will. It will. You will sleep at night. And two, your legacy is intact because it's hard. It's integrity lasts after you're gone.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
Accountability lasts after you're gone.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
Because you will become inspiration to the next young brother or whomever that decides that. Integrity, hard work are the things that I want to live my life by. So with that, man, I just want to, man. Again, thank you, bro. It's always like, we. I gotta have you back. Thank you. Always great. Where this dude, He. He's on X all the time.
Hotep Jesus
Yeah.
Tyrus
You got your live things.
Hotep Jesus
You pop on hotel Jesus dot com. All my links are on hotepjesus dot com. Go to hotepjesus dot com and go visit the website. My supplements are there. I got supplements for health, immune support, brain support, libido support, sleep support. I got it all. Yeah.
Tyrus
Master of. Master. A jack of all trades. Master of some hotel. Thank you, man. I appreciate you.
Hotep Jesus
Thank you, man. Appreciate it.
Tyrus
One more time. All right. All right. Now that's time for coach Tyrus. Real quick. It's a very simple thing, fellas. Open the door. Just open the door. You see a lady walking up, hold the door open. Doesn't matter if she likes it or not. It's a good thing for a man to do. It's a. It's a. It's a good feeling. Just hold the door open. It's a nice way of saying that you are one. A sane, rational individual and. And a good man. Start little things. It's always a little thing. Make your bed in the morning and open doors. If you do little things, they lead to big things. And never, ever leave your damn shopping cart in the parking lot. Put that where it belongs. It's 10 extra steps. Those type of things holding doors open, putting your grocery card away. Just put it away, damn it. That just. That's the easiest thing to do. It's a person who gets things done. And I see a couple of guys in that thing shaking their heads. I know we got some bastards on my team who are not putting their carts away. And gentlemen, we will find you. We will out you. I will put you on social media. So just be warned, if you're going to be on this team, you hold the door open. When a lady comes over, you put your carts away, period. Simple. And make your bed. Make your bed in the morning. If you make. I know, I know. I know. I. I know. I hated to have to make my bed as a child, and I. And I'm married, so she makes it probably 70 of the time. But when I'm home for the three days I'm home a week, I make the bed every morning. Bed made. Because I know my day is starting on the right foot. So that's my coaching tips for you. All right, fellas. And again, guys, you have 48 hours to clean up this cart stuff. Thank that dude. Who's laughing Right. Right there. Yeah. Put your card away. You're hurting your mother.
Date: October 16, 2025
Guests: Hotep Jesus (entrepreneur, author, podcaster)
Host: Tyrus (comedian, Fox News contributor, former pro wrestler)
This high-energy episode of Planet Tyrus features Hotep Jesus – entrepreneur, media personality, and outspoken advocate for self-made success. The conversation flows between laughter and real talk as Tyrus and Hotep Jesus delve into American division, personal hustle, the realities of self-employment, friendship and loyalty, the pitfalls of “cancel culture,” race, politics, money, and their shared journey as Black men challenging expectations.
Together, they offer sharp insights, memorable personal stories, and straight-up honesty about navigating today’s America and building a life on your own terms.
[00:00–17:57]
[18:58–22:59]
Hotep Jesus on Hustle:
Why Entrepreneurship?
[25:16–27:30]
[32:47–41:20]
Bringing Friends Along (and Why It Fails):
Pandemic Generosity and its Fallout:
[44:21–51:58]
Calling Balls and Strikes:
Cancel Culture, Free Speech, and Government Overreach:
[55:12–57:31]
[57:37–63:09]
[63:09–69:38]
[69:38–73:38]
[73:38–74:06]
For listeners seeking a refreshingly honest, witty, and multidimensional take on culture, politics, and personal success, this episode is a must.
Whether it’s strategies for betting on yourself, hard-won truths about money and friends, or unapologetic opinions about the state of America, Tyrus and Hotep Jesus bring wisdom, humor, and a dose of realness to every minute.