Jeff Dye: Comedians Are Done With Wokeness | Planet Tyrus

Summary

Planet Tyrus – “Jeff Dye: Comedians Are Done With Wokeness”

Podcast: Planet Tyrus
Host: Tyrus
Guest: Jeff Dye
Date: December 9, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode of Planet Tyrus, host Tyrus, a former pro wrestler and Fox News contributor, sits down with fellow comedian and die-hard wrestling fan Jeff Dye. The two exchange stories, debate the state of modern comedy, “wokeness,” and the evolution of entertainment, and deep-dive into their mutual love of professional wrestling. With sharp wit, good-natured banter, and plenty of nostalgia, the conversation veers from media representation to childhood struggles, cultural shifts, and memorable botched wrestling moments.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Comedy, Wokeness, and Audiences

• Comedy in the Age of Wokeness

  • Jeff shares how audiences in Australia are just now experiencing a backlash against “wokeness” similar to what happened in the U.S. years ago, and his style is “heroic” to them for its common sense and truth-telling.
    • "They're starting to go, maybe this is annoying. Maybe this woke stuff is... My comedy there was, like, heroic to them." – Jeff Dye (07:10)
  • Both agree that audiences crave raw, honest comedy, and while comics are pressured to be sensitive, audiences actually want to hear the real deal.
  • Tyrus notes that Jeff’s “nice-guy” persona makes his humor more approachable, even when daring:
    • "Your shit is punchy, but it’s a very polite punch you in the mouth." – Tyrus (09:55)
  • The two reflect on heckling, cancel culture, and how even diverse crowds will defend comics they trust:
    • “He's so likable that they crossed tent lines to defend you.” – Tyrus (11:53)

• Common Sense as Comedy

  • Jeff discusses sticking to “everyday guy” humor:
    • “Maybe a guy wearing a dress shouldn't compete against my fifth-grade daughter… that's common sense.” – Jeff Dye (10:44)
  • They both express frustration at being labeled bigoted for expressing obvious truths or making jokes about any group, men or women, underscoring a major shift in social expectations for humor.

Life Stories, Dyslexia, and Making it in Comedy

• Personal Journeys & Overcoming Challenges

  • Jeff reveals how being funny was his way to make friends due to his dyslexia and lack of athletic prowess.
    • “Everyone’s funny… but not everyone could be a comedian.” – Jeff Dye (22:47)
  • Both share stories of childhood struggles, familial expectations, and how unique brains (like dyslexia) lead to a different, sometimes funnier, worldview.
  • Tyrus recounts being pushed into drama class to channel energy positively, discovering a love for Shakespeare and performance that shaped his future comedic and wrestling persona.

• The Big Breaks & Writing Process

  • Jeff describes the moment someone from his church encouraged him to pursue his dream, supporting him through his first gigs and writing routines at 23 (39:49–42:21).
  • Both comedians reflect on their writing styles:
    • Jeff writes daily at coffee shops and crafts on-stage; Tyrus works from outlines and life experiences.
    • “You already knew who you were before you became a comedian… I started in comedy before I knew who I was.” – Jeff Dye (42:55–43:24)

Wrestling: Fandom, Characters, and Behind-the-Scenes

• Accents, Language, and Internationalism in Wrestling

  • Both agree that wrestlers should speak their native languages (with subtitles) for authenticity, rather than struggling with English promos:
    • “Let the Kabuki Warriors just speak in Japanese and put subtitles… it’s great heat if your top heel refuses to speak English.” – Jeff Dye (04:19–05:03)
  • Tyrus argues that “broken English” takes away a wrestler’s monster credibility, while Jeff jokes that it makes them come off as childlike (05:43).

• Favorite Eras, Ruining of Good-Guys/Bad-Guys

  • They reminisce about the eras of wrestling they grew up with and agree on the impact of figures like Stone Cold Steve Austin and Arnold Schwarzenegger, who blurred good guy/bad guy lines and changed wrestling’s moral center (17:12–18:39).
    • “Stone Cold Steve Austin ruined it for wrestling for sure… he whooping your boss... we all cheer for it!” – Tyrus (17:16–18:05)

• Importance of Character & Story over “Workrate”

  • Jeff says he remembers personalities, stories, and promos more than technical matches; compelling characters and Shakespearean storytelling make wrestling memorable (47:08–48:08).
  • Both share nostalgia for “larger-than-life” personas from the 80s and 90s and critique today’s frequent recycling of pop culture gimmicks (68:03–70:49).

• Hilarious and Humbling Wrestler Moments

  • Tyrus shares a botched finish story involving Hornswoggle and Dolph Ziggler, illustrating how one mistake on live TV led to the abrupt end of a gimmick, but that’s just wrestling (51:46–55:41).
  • Jeff recounts being roasted by Paul Heyman at WrestleMania, marveling at Heyman’s commitment to staying in heel character post-roast (59:33–61:30).
  • They discuss the reality of on-the-fly improvisation in the ring and how inexperienced wrestlers struggle if something goes wrong (55:53–56:39).
  • On the controversy of Paul Heyman moving a fan:
    • “He just picked him up and moved him. But again, he made a decision… It’s context.” – Tyrus (62:16–64:39)

Cultural Commentary

• Generational Shifts & Cancel Culture

  • Tyrus and Jeff reflect on how the things they did and said growing up would never fly today, but express hope for a coming backlash and return toward common sense in comedy and society.

• Kayfabe, Social Media, and Magic Gone

  • Both lament the decline of in-ring “kayfabe” and how constant social media exposure makes surprise and showmanship nearly impossible (77:03–78:19).
    • “Breaking of kayfabe is maybe the worst thing that could have happened to wrestling… the internet killed wrestling.” – Jeff Dye (76:42–76:58)
  • Still, they optimistically note, “Wrestling and comedy are like roaches. You can't kill them.” (78:29)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Comedy Style (09:55):
  • Tyrus: "Your shit is punchy, but it’s a very polite punch you in the mouth."
• On Common Sense (10:44):
  • Jeff Dye: "Maybe a guy wearing a dress shouldn't compete against my fifth-grade daughter… that’s common sense."
• On Language in Wrestling (04:19):
  • Jeff Dye: "Let the Kabuki Warriors just speak in Japanese and put subtitles... it’s great heat if your top heel refuses to speak English."
• On Stone Cold (17:16–18:05):
  • Tyrus: “Stone Cold Steve Austin ruined it for wrestling. He whooping your boss, flips everyone off—even a woman comes out, he’ll stun her, and we all cheer!”
• On Kayfabe Breaking (76:42):
  • Jeff Dye: “Breaking of kayfabe is maybe the worst thing that could have ever happened to wrestling. The internet killed wrestling.”
• On the Irrepressibility of Comedy & Wrestling (78:29):
  • Both: "Wrestling and comedy are like roaches. You can't kill them."

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:11 – Introduction of Jeff Dye and the premise of the episode
• 04:19–05:17 – Wrestling, accents, and authenticity
• 07:10–11:05 – Comedy, wokeness, and Australian audiences
• 12:45–15:50 – Hecklers, bubble audiences, and the value of diverse comedy lineups
• 22:38–25:17 – Dyslexia, humor, and pathways into comedy
• 39:49–42:21 – Jeff’s journey to becoming a comedian
• 47:08–48:16 – Why stories and characters matter in wrestling
• 51:46–55:41 – Botched wrestling finishes and handling mistakes live
• 59:33–61:30 – Paul Heyman’s roast and steadfast kayfabe
• 62:16–64:39 – Discussing Paul Heyman’s controversy, context, and outrage culture
• 76:42–78:19 – Kayfabe's death, social media, and the future of wrestling surprise

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Tone and Style

The conversation throughout is casual, fast-paced, and colored by mutual respect and authentic affection for standup and pro wrestling. Both men embrace self-deprecating humor, unapologetic honesty, and a nostalgic longing for the magic and boundaries of the past—even as they deftly lampoon the foibles and obsessions of today’s culture. There’s plenty of razzing, mid-conversation callbacks, and warmth underlying the tougher takes on contentious issues.

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Conclusion

This episode of Planet Tyrus offers a dynamic, entertaining exploration of where comedy and wrestling intersect in the modern world. Tyrus and Jeff Dye blend inside-baseball wisdom with universal truths, showing how the best humor—and the best wrestling—transcend generational and cultural divides by focusing on common sense, storytelling, and not taking oneself too seriously. Even in a world obsessed with outrage and identity, laughter and the love of spectacle endure.

Transcript

[Tyrus]

Oh, sorry. I always get caught up in reading this bad boy.

Well, speaking of caught up, I'm excited today because I'm going to catch up with one of my truly talented cohorts on the Gutfeld show. He's a regular guest on the Gutfeld show, extremely funny guy. And he's a huge wrestling fan. And. And I guarantee you that he's going to use this entire podcast to try to milk me questions about wrestling no matter what we talk about. So let's just see how if we're gonna have a wrestling. Now you think, am I having a professional wrestler on today? No, I'm not. I'm having a professional comedian on the. The hilarious Jeff Die. But he is a die hard wrestling fan, so I think he's going to use this interview hangout time to want to talk about wrestling. So let's see how this goes. It's going to be hilarious.

I like black and white movies. No one else do you like them?

[Jeff Dye]

I don't know any black and white movies.

[Tyrus]

See, I like. I will specifically if something's in black and white, I'll be like, this must be good because it's still here.

[Jeff Dye]

It's like a British accent.

[Tyrus]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

Like, I assume they're really smart if they speak in a British accent.

[Tyrus]

You know what, though? I've gotten huge trouble for that because I'm anti British scientists in movies.

[Jeff Dye]

Oh, really?

[Tyrus]

Because they get this. They get this pass where, oh, you have a British accent. So automatically you're smarter than, I'm that guy.

[Jeff Dye]

I'm like, what?

[Tyrus]

He's speaking proper English so he's got.

[Jeff Dye]

To be really smart. Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Turns out, not glasses.

[Jeff Dye]

Proper English.

[Tyrus]

Literally.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah. Black and white.

[Tyrus]

That's it.

[Jeff Dye]

They seem elegant because movies were better.

[Tyrus]

Like if you watch Even like 70 sitcoms and stuff, everybody's a good actor.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Like, even the extra is like the best at his game.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

So like across the board, everyone's where they're supposed to be, everyone's doing their thing and like, then you'll see people in these TV series like, oh my God, that's.

[Jeff Dye]

I have a theory that if you speak in an accent, we don't know if you're a good actor or not. So it's like if they're speaking in Australian accent or British, as long as it's English, we go, I think they're a good actor. Like, we, like, we can't sniff out, like if you're speaking, like, if you're an American, I can tell if you're a bad actor or not right, but in English.

[Tyrus]

Well, you know what blows your mind is, like, when the guy is such a good American accent in movies.

[Jeff Dye]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyrus]

And then when you meet him, you're like, how this happen?

[Jeff Dye]

It's like Phil Collins.

[Tyrus]

I met Phil Collins in Madison Square Garden.

I was getting ready to come out for a match, and his. His wife was a fan of the Funkosaurus and the Funko Nactyls.

[Jeff Dye]

Nice.

[Tyrus]

And we all took a picture, and he was just kind of off in the corner, and his wife, like, Collins.

[Jeff Dye]

Wife, Like the Funkadeactyl?

[Tyrus]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

That's just a great.

[Tyrus]

Isn't it? Like, you're in Madison Square Garden.

[Jeff Dye]

I'm assuming she's a grown woman.

[Tyrus]

I'm named a Phil Collins wife.

[Jeff Dye]

No, but that's a.

[Tyrus]

She was tall. I remember she was tall. I was like, wow, she's taller than him.

[Jeff Dye]

Not Phil Collins. Kids. No, no, it was Phil Collins. Like, teenage.

[Tyrus]

No, no, that would have been better. She. We took the pictures and stuff, and she made a joke, and I just heard this little voice go in it.

[Jeff Dye]

And I was like, it's amazing.

[Tyrus]

Holy as Phil Collins. And he kind of had, like, a look like, oh, he's your favorite wrestler. And I was like, oh, it's really funny. Let's.

[Jeff Dye]

Well, besides accents, actually. No broken English, which is different than an accent.

[Tyrus]

Yes.

[Jeff Dye]

I think runes, things, like, I'm actually.

[Tyrus]

Wait, what did you. How did you say it?

[Jeff Dye]

I think it ruins things.

[Tyrus]

Runes.

[Jeff Dye]

Ruins. How do you say it? Runes.

[Tyrus]

Okay. So me and my wife have this horrible fight over this all the time. This is not. It ends up being like Family Guy because she says, you've ruined everything.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah, Roo.

[Tyrus]

Yeah. Yeah, you've ruined it. And I'm like, no, no, it's ruined.

[Jeff Dye]

She's like, I use a lot of words wrong.

[Tyrus]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

I just found out this week in Australia that it's rigamarole.

[Tyrus]

Yes.

[Jeff Dye]

Not rigamaru.

[Tyrus]

No.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah. I've been saying it wrong my whole life.

[Tyrus]

But when do you use it?

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah. When? Also on. I said lobotomy, like, 9 million times rogan last week. And then Joe actually correct me. He goes, lobotomy. Like, to get Joe Rogan to correct you on saying a word wrong is.

[Tyrus]

I think that's annoying, though.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

I think. You know, I knew. Like, it's not like it's confused. I think if you don't say it specifically correct, but there's no other word, there's not misleading. If you're lodom. I get the jest. You're talking about Someone getting their brain scooped.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah. That's all. Yeah. If you know what I'm saying.

[Tyrus]

I was like, wait, are you talking about that? Are you referring to a taxation.

[Jeff Dye]

Well, I think broken English ruins some things. And a great example would be great to talk to you about because it's in pro wrestling.

[Tyrus]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

I've been saying, yes, let the Kabuki warriors just speak in Japanese and put subtitles on the bottom.

[Tyrus]

Why not?

[Jeff Dye]

Because if Netflix is such an interest in being international and what Netflix is on all the continents, it's in every country. Then just let the wrestlers who can speak that they speak terrible English, just let them speak. Because wrestling is huge in Japan.

[Tyrus]

Yeah. Oh, I know. Huge.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah. You know better than anybody. But to your listeners that might not know that Japan wrestling is second largest.

[Tyrus]

Also makes the.

The. The show, the facade.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Awesome. Because you have all these international stars.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah. It's great.

[Tyrus]

Especially if your top guy or your top heel refuses to speak English.

[Jeff Dye]

That's amazing.

[Tyrus]

That's just heat.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah. And it's gonna annoy them.

[Tyrus]

I would. Yeah, I would. Because we did it when we were in Europe. Whenever I was in a bad guy, I was like, I would ask for an interpreter and I would just tell the interpreter they suck. That's like, you know, like, tell the interpreter that I will refuse to learn their language.

[Jeff Dye]

It's perfect. It's a great heal. Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Move.

[Jeff Dye]

And like watching Eos. Excuse me, watching Eo, sky and Oscar, like Kyrie Singh all try to struggle through these promos when they don't speak English, it. It annoys me and it takes me out.

[Tyrus]

It's a mistake, I think, because it also takes away from their monster work in the ring.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah. They're so good.

[Tyrus]

They're so good. But I think because we.

[Jeff Dye]

I associate broken English with, like, little children.

[Tyrus]

Yes.

[Jeff Dye]

Little kids can't speak good English because they're little kids. Or English well. Or whatever the hell it is. But. But because they're little kids. So when you hear a grown up speak broken English, it makes you not respect them because they sound like a little kid.

[Tyrus]

No. Well, there's one time it kind of worked was with Cato and the Green Hornet.

[Jeff Dye]

Oh, yeah. That's a face in there.

[Tyrus]

Well, that was Bruce Lee and he would kick your ass. A lot of people didn't know that. Like the Green Hornet. The old Bruce Lee's Cato.

[Jeff Dye]

I didn't know that.

[Tyrus]

Yeah. So, like, all the badass kicks and stuff, it's all Bruce Lee.

[Jeff Dye]

Pretty cool.

[Tyrus]

Yeah. And then he would Say, like, a couple. Like, couple words. But there's a creative way to do things. But I. I think you should just let people talk, especially now.

[Jeff Dye]

Well, and also, like, if you're speaking broken English, which reminds me of a child, which then goes over is if you. Then I think of you as, like, a likable little kid, like, if you're a face. Right. So, like, Eugene. Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Eugene was.

[Jeff Dye]

Yes.

[Tyrus]

Lovable.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah. And that makes you, like a. More. But almost in a childish way. But whatever. I just think that broken English is not a good look on wrestling.

[Tyrus]

How was it? Because you just went to Australia. Yeah. And you've done stand up everywhere.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

This is your first time in Australia was awesome. Was it okay?

[Jeff Dye]

They'd love you there.

[Tyrus]

Oh, I know. I've been there. I love Australia. I love it. I actually have this classic picture of me with a koala.

[Jeff Dye]

Wait, were you wrestling or were you.

[Tyrus]

I've wrestled. I've had. I've been there with the wwe. I've been there for independence. I've been there bodyguarding. So I've been. Australia.

[Jeff Dye]

I meant they would like your stand up. Oh, yeah, yeah, of course you've wrestled there. But I'm saying, like, they're going through a real interesting fatigue. They're going through what America kind of went through, like, eight years ago, where it's like, they're. They're starting to go, maybe this is annoying.

[Tyrus]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

Maybe this woke stuff is so, like, my comedy there was, like, heroic to them. They were like, thank you for being here. Like, and, like, there's, like. There's kind of having this new, like, awakening.

[Tyrus]

Well, because Australians were always blunt.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Like, you know, they weren't as blunt as, like, the Irish, but they were, like, up there. Like, they would just tell you. And then it's funny because the first time I went to Australia, it was a huge, like, international incident. So a few years back, it's funny how it works out. I was getting ready to go with Snoop to England, and that's when I got a call from John Larinaitis to go back to go to the wwe. So he was like, it's a good week.

[Jeff Dye]

You're hanging out with Snoop.

[Tyrus]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

You're working. And then telling Snoop, like, hey, sorry, come back to the biggest wrestling company in the world.

[Tyrus]

And, no, this was before. So I go for the first time to go try out in McDonough, Georgia, and all that stuff. They go all, shit breaks loose over there. A huge fight breaks out at the airport. So, like, they kept Snoop and the Bodyguards there. But then Snoop had a better lawyer than the bodyguards. Bodyguards had the two bodyguards with the issues for like pushing the guy or whatever. They had to stay for like months in England while this trial was getting worked out. So then they basically said that Snoop was banned, he couldn't come back to England.

[Jeff Dye]

How does that fall on him?

[Tyrus]

So look, thing goes on, dip wrestling, blah, blah, blah. Then they, we move to Florida, change, whatever, don't get along, I get fired. Come back and they're like, hey. Literally as I get fired, like, hey, we got a trip in two weeks to Australia. We're going to do a tour. And I was in New Zealand. I was like, oh, cool, I'm on. So we get there and we're getting ready to do the thing and basically all these government officials were there saying that, like, England is furious that Australia is allowing Snoop to perform in their country. But like, and I'm talking. And it was a huge tour. It was, it was Ice Cube, Bone Thugs and Harmony, Bone Thugs and Army opened up, Ice Cube performed and then Snoop was the main event. It was a, it was a big, big tour. Yeah. And it was all going during the Melbourne cup. So we all went to the Melbourne Cup.

[Jeff Dye]

Perfect.

[Tyrus]

So it was this huge thing. But the government was like, it was like in the papers and yeah. It was like international in like, Australia.

[Jeff Dye]

Didn'T let Candace Owens in.

[Tyrus]

Yep.

[Jeff Dye]

And then someone, someone said this. So I don't know how real it is, but they were like, we're surprised they let you in the country. And I go, why? And they were like, because it wouldn't take someone that long on customs to just see the things you joke about.

[Tyrus]

Right.

[Jeff Dye]

And then go, no, just because we don't want to do.

[Tyrus]

I noticed lately and I always watch your stuff. It pops up on the feed. You are the nicest comedian ever. Even though your, your shit is punched you but, but it's, it's a very polite punch. You in the mouth.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Like you, you, you said almost like, here's a pillow. And then, haha, I got you.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

But I noticed that people get really mad. I think like you're like their safe place. Like, I can yell at this guy. Yeah. Which is for your height. You would think they'd be a little more respectful. But it's just, I think it's the tone.

[Jeff Dye]

I appreciate you saying that because I do think that like, like you're a smart guy. Like, I only had to talk to you a few times or beyond Gutfeld, where I was like, oh, he's he's really smart. People go, what do you mean? He's a wrestler? And I go, well, you know, stuff like you're well read. You know, things like, I am a very simple everyday guy. Whenever people go, jeff, what about.

[Tyrus]

And that's not a bad thing.

[Jeff Dye]

I'm fine with it.

[Tyrus]

That's actually a compliment.

[Jeff Dye]

And the people go, jeff, what do you think about Palestine and Israel? And I go, I don't know. I've even tried to learn about it. And I don't know. But I do know a lot about like, common sense.

[Tyrus]

Yes.

[Jeff Dye]

You know, so the everyday man, that's where I kind of strive because I'm like, oh, yeah, maybe a guy wearing a dress shouldn't compete against my fifth grade daughter in. In, you know, so like the common sense things, I think I'm good at, like articulating that and putting it into like stand up comedy. And then people go, what a bigot. You're like, I'm not. I'm just like a regular.

[Tyrus]

Right?

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

If. So you're the nicest bigot. Yeah. Which is a problem with being a bigot.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Like, hey, black guys, you guys having a good day? Like, that's. Yes. No, no, no.

[Jeff Dye]

Why isn't it being more hateful? It'd be easier for us to hate him. Yeah, Yeah.

[Tyrus]

I don't, I don't mind if you drink out of my phone. If you just wipe it off afterwards. That show those guys, it's okay. I never sit in that chair. But, you know, that's one thing I always liked about your stand up is because you. When. And it was the one with the. You had black people in your crowd. Thank you for your service.

And one got offended over the dumbest thing. And the best part was on the other side was like, I'm black and I'm fine with what he said.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

And I was just, I was dying laughing because I was like, he's so likable that they, they crossed tent lines.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

To defend you.

[Jeff Dye]

That's the thing too is it was interesting in the, the clip that you were referencing is that like the show was going great. Yeah. Anyone was upset. And then for her to be upset, I'm like, what confused you here? And then the whole crowd's looking at her like, what's she confused about?

[Tyrus]

Yeah. Everyone was confused about her confusion. I think what happened was like, you were just shining. You were having. It was a great show from top to bottom.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

You're killing it. Everyone's having a good time and there's always somebody. Maybe she got a bad text, bothered or. Yeah, something happened. That's why you don't look at your phones during the show.

[Jeff Dye]

I know.

[Tyrus]

Because then you get a bad text. Like, you know, hey, he's not coming tonight. Actually, he's at your girlfriend. Whatever the deal was, it was something that happened. Have you ever felt so strongly about seeing somebody perform or to where you need to interrupt them in the middle of the performance? No, I've never. And I've. I've. I've seen some things.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

I've seen some shows. I've. I've seen somebody that was singing the national anthem so terribly that it hurt. It hurt. Physically hurt. And I was 10ft away and I just. I wanted to say just hum it. Like, just, you know, like you want.

[Jeff Dye]

To help him out.

[Tyrus]

It's not raucous. Went Blair of bombs searching in air. I'm like gave through through. And I was like, oh, man, maybe you should just hum it. Like you think that. But I never. And that might have been a good place to heckle when they're. But I also thought that was not the plan. Yeah. That was not that person.

[Jeff Dye]

They made their bed.

[Tyrus]

This bed is bad. This video is going to last forever. If something's not funny or not entertaining, why do I have to ruin it for everyone by giving my.

[Jeff Dye]

I once had a very famous guy yell at me at that same comedy club for a joke. I was making fun of the homeless. I got all this homeless material. I grew up in Kent, Washington, but, like, that's very close to Seattle.

[Tyrus]

Yes.

[Jeff Dye]

So I've my whole life just homeless. Has been the whole homelessness and Bigfoot. Yeah. And then I moved to LA where homelessness is a thing. So I've never. That's always been a subject on my mind. I have too much material making fun of the homeless situation. And so anyways, I'm up there, I'm doing my homeless stuff. It's crushing. And a guy gets really mad with his girlfriend. In hindsight, the guy is a great guy. And I'm actually been a fan of his music for a long time. I didn't even know it was him when he yelled at me. He even messaged me, I'm sorry. Got carried away.

[Tyrus]

Right.

[Jeff Dye]

Like he even realized, oh, that was not. That did not go my way. But he was triggered so much. Him and his girlfriend started yelling at me about doing homeless jokes.

[Tyrus]

I don't. I'm going out to have some drinks and laugh. Yeah. And when I sit down at the table And I get my margarita or whatever my mixed beverage is. I'm now pissed. And I have to. Virtue signal the entertainer or just. I've been to shows where I didn't laugh.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

I literally. There's. There's times on gut feel where they're saying stuff and I'm like, oh, man, I really don't. Where is this? You just let it happen.

[Jeff Dye]

But LA is such a bubble. I think that.

[Tyrus]

Yeah, no, I grew up there.

[Jeff Dye]

Symptom of, Of Los Angeles, like, because on the Laugh Factory show or the Improv or the Comedy Store, wherever you consume your comedy in Los Angeles, it isn't like, hey, we paid to see Jeff Dye or we paid to see Tyrus.

[Tyrus]

Right?

[Jeff Dye]

You're getting a showcase of like 10.

[Tyrus]

Different comics and let's say you like six of them. That's a good night.

[Jeff Dye]

That's a great night. Yeah. That's how you should view it.

[Tyrus]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

But what they do is they go, I loved the first one, loved the second second one. Hey, that third one pissed me off. But if you're trying to have diversity, which good kudos to those comedy clubs, you would have diversity of age, diversity of gender, diversity of thoughts. There's a diversity of politics. So, yeah, you might get a comic who isn't woke.

[Tyrus]

Right.

[Jeff Dye]

You might get a comic who's old. You might get a comic who's a young teen who's making light of 911 or. Or whatever.

[Tyrus]

You know, he's got his little piece of paper.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah, that might happen. You might get a kid who didn't live through 9 11. He makes an insensitive joke. So, yeah, like, if you're smart, you think of it the way you just said. But you, You're a grown. Man. So you go, yeah, six out of 10 is good.

[Tyrus]

And we were talking before we started filming just to flip grown man. And we were talking about how we noticed when we were eight.

[Jeff Dye]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyrus]

When. How things. The world is very different, especially movies. Yeah, look at all the movies different now.

[Jeff Dye]

Oh, for sure.

[Tyrus]

You know, the only. And I gotta be honest, I was kind of. I. I understood Darth Vader when I was 8. But as an adult, I'm like, I don't know, bro. You had two kids out there and wait a minute, you were number two ruling the world and you didn't pay support the whole time, bro.

[Jeff Dye]

Well, I think that's interesting, that. Great analogy, by the way. I love the Darth Vader analogy.

[Tyrus]

Kind of a shitty dad, Wayne.

[Jeff Dye]

Of course. And when you're a kid, the Bad guys are the coolest, which shame on Hollywood because like Godzilla's ruining everything and he's so cool looking. Yeah, Darth Maul sucks. He wasn't even alive long, but he has the red.

[Tyrus]

He was awesome.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah. And then Darth Vader is like, he's a terrible ugly old white guy. But like he looks so badass with the voice and the thing. And it's like as you get older and as you learn about life and you gain wisdom, you know, and however you gain it, you start to go, oh, I was supposed to be rooting for Luke, right? Luke's a good guy. I want to be the good guy. You know, like Cena maybe. I wasn't crazy about him. He's a dude dork when I watched wrestling. But he's fighting for what's good and vulnerable. Like I'm supposed to be rooting for the good guy.

[Tyrus]

I honestly, I think you know who ruined good guy bad guy?

[Jeff Dye]

Who?

[Tyrus]

Arnold Schwarzenegger ruined it in movies and Stone Cold Steve Austin ruined it in wrestling.

[Jeff Dye]

Definitely ruined it.

[Tyrus]

He ruined it wrestling for sure. It's Steve's fault.

[Jeff Dye]

Steve blew it on that.

[Tyrus]

He blew it. He blew the spot, man. Yeah, I know. You're first ballot, six ballot, eight ballot. He'll get in for Stunning Steve and Stone Cold because Stoney Steve Austin was awesome.

[Jeff Dye]

Anyway, I never saw Stoney. I mean wcw, I never watched it.

[Tyrus]

Oh, man, with the hair. Yeah, he was.

[Jeff Dye]

I've seen it. Like I'm aware of it.

[Tyrus]

But oh yeah, Hollywood Blondes. Him and Brian Pillman. Yeah, brother, you there. You can have a YouTube weekend. Or actually I think it on, on Peacock. Maybe you go through the vault. But watch, watch Stunning Steve Austin.

[Jeff Dye]

But I love Stone Steve Austin. I think he's on my Mount Rushmore. I just agree with you that like.

[Tyrus]

He just you whooping your boss flips.

[Jeff Dye]

Everyone off and he Stone Cold stuns even guys that came out and shared a beer with them.

[Tyrus]

Even a woman will come out and talk sideways to him. He can kick her in the gut, give her the gimmick and we all cheer for word. Any other social situation, be like, did he just kick her in the uterus?

[Jeff Dye]

All the Canadian guys, he just stunned all of the heart foundation.

[Tyrus]

That's gotta be a hate crime.

[Jeff Dye]

All of dx, he just Stone Cold.

[Tyrus]

The nation of domination. That's a whole HR paperwork nightmare. Thanks a lot, Stone Cold.

[Jeff Dye]

He did.

[Tyrus]

But he did. But he did. Because before that it was like everyone. Well also the baby faces were like good looking guy like Ricky Steamboat.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Like, didn't matter. I bet that's a guy that the all the other wrestlers hate because they're like, oh man, it's Ricky. As soon as he looks at the crowd, they're gonna cheer for him.

[Jeff Dye]

Of course, he's so likable.

[Tyrus]

Like he's just, he. In any age. Yeah, at any age. Like I got the honor of him being a trainer of mine for a while, man. And I got it to drive with him on the road and stuff. He's just the coolest man.

[Jeff Dye]

Wrestling fans and wrestlers, excuse me. Give Ricky the Steamboat a lot of love. They put him over for sure. But he's underrated.

[Tyrus]

He's still underrated. I he, everyone, the WrestleMania everyone would argue is three because it changed. One changed. It changed everyone's life. I think made everybody want to become a wrestler. Three with him and Andre was probably one of the most brilliantly built programs ever. I don't know how it all worked out. But Steamboat and Savage, that story, great. That match, 21 false finishes. That's for pin attempts. That means those guys were working.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

And it was a complete. And. And Hogan and Andre was built around one thing. Ken Hogan get his ass up. Yep. Or slam. That was the whole passing of the torch. Yeah. And Ken, will he slam Andre? So you have two very different match types. But Steamboat was. If you go back and you listen to those crowds and you listen to the Hogan crowd, Steamboat was getting there.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

And I would argue Macho man was over too. He was. They, they love to hate him.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

You know, because they should have booed him. He was like the worst boyfriend ever. But like, Steamboat was just. The ladies loved him, the kids wanted to be him.

[Jeff Dye]

So like Jack, he was shredded.

[Tyrus]

Handsome.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

He was really good. Polite, super under, never cussed. He didn't do things like brag about having a Rolex watch and limousines and jet flying. He just showed up. He even brought his family to work.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah, he was the best. Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Steamboat was the best. And he could go.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

If you look at his stuff, him and Don Morocco had a crazy feud. If you, if you.

[Jeff Dye]

I don't know that.

[Tyrus]

Oh, brother. You got to go back in the vault.

[Jeff Dye]

I'd love to. Well, like, it's funny cuz everyone my age goes. I grew up in the attitude area and it's like sort of we, we loved the attitude era because we were teenagers and we're like. They're saying suck it. Oh my gosh. He's drinking beer and stuff. So like, yes, we are products of the attitude era. But what made me fall in love with wrestling was whatever that era was before it.

[Tyrus]

Oh, yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

Like, that's what made me fall in love with it when it was a clown and a cop and a joint and all that.

[Tyrus]

But see, because all those guys were veterans, that all those guys were top guys from all over the country. So the wwf, they had the best of the best. When he was going through, he basically was saying. And he just took so everybody from top to bottom. Like, we'll look back and you'll be like, oh, Ronnie Garvin and Greg Hammer Valentine are having a feud. And they're like the second match on the card. Well, when I was put them in. He put them in Georgia. They'd sell out 20,000 people to come see those guys fight.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

So that's why that error. Because there was no bad match.

[Jeff Dye]

Well, that's why my age is perfect for wrestling, in my opinion. Because when it was kind of silly, like, you know, you know, slaughter versus big Boss man, which is a sergeant versus a cop or.

[Tyrus]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

An Indian tatanka versus a clown, which is doink. When it was this very over the top kind of like you could just look at the screen and see what the people were. I was a kid, so I loved that. And then as I became a teen, it kind of branded towards teens.

[Tyrus]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

And then as I became like closer to age 18, we were becoming aware of ECW and blood and tax and like, that's what I really wanted. So it perfectly kind of grew up with me wrestling did. And my age group. And so that's. That's why I. I love.

[Tyrus]

You're pretty. You're very passionate about wrestling. And usually when people are passionate, there's usually an attempt to maybe. But your comedy too. How did you go from. Because you're die Hard. Obviously watched a lot of TV and stuff. Were you always a funny kid? Were you always. Was there something that you always just kind of always was the guy who had something like, hey, guys. Because I always feel like the group says something.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

This big plan and then you're the guy like, hey, actually. And then pisses everybody off a little bit.

[Jeff Dye]

Or.

[Tyrus]

Or this. Or oh, hey. We didn't think of it that way.

[Jeff Dye]

Well, I do think everyone's funny.

[Tyrus]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

I. When I agree.

[Tyrus]

Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

But not everyone could be a comedian, and so that's kind of the difference. So, like, when I was growing up, all my friends were funny. I find I find so much humor in everything. My barista that Just made my coffee. She's hilarious. She has no idea she's hilarious. But, like, she's this little sweater wearing lesbian girl. She's funny. To me, I think everything is kind of funny.

[Tyrus]

Sweater wearing lesbian.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah, she's hilarious. She doesn't even know she's hilarious. But I think when I was very young, the way I made friends was by being silly or making jokes. And, like, some guys got girls or got friends because they were the best athlete.

[Tyrus]

Right.

[Jeff Dye]

Or you were probably like a big guy. And then that made Pete. Like, people are attracted to giants, you know, like, that's.

[Tyrus]

Yeah, they like to look at them. They don't want to go to prom with you, but they'll be like, hey.

[Jeff Dye]

However you make friends, you know, whatever.

[Tyrus]

You'Re gonna do, pick that up for me. My backpack. Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

So, like, we all have the gifts God gave us, you know, and some people value academics, some people value sports. And I didn't really know where I fit in as a young person, but I was really funny. And to people, even when I wasn't trying to be.

[Tyrus]

Yeah, but you're not stupid, though.

[Jeff Dye]

But I had dyslexia.

[Tyrus]

I'm dyslexic. Oh, yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah. So my dislike. Like, if you ever read, like, anything about dyslexia, an average brain, or the majority of people's brains goes A, B, to C. Whereas, like, if we're trying to get to C, we'll sometimes go A and then D and then G and then we get back to C, which to everyone else is kind of funny. So sometimes in class I would ask a question or I would say something and everyone would laugh, and I'd kind of look around and I'd be like, yeah, like, I was trying to be funny because. But I wasn't. You weren't trying to get the answer?

[Tyrus]

I always looked at it like, I always get the answer first and then fill in the back. That's dyslexia. Like, number two. All right, so there's.

[Jeff Dye]

How did his brain do that?

[Tyrus]

Okay, so we'll put the four over there. And there's no. Okay, two, because I'll write it exactly like that.

[Jeff Dye]

Sure.

[Tyrus]

You know, I used. My mom goes, your numbers float on you. Yeah. Because like, the word maybe, it almost seems dishonest. Yeah. You're like, all right, I couldn't spell maybe. Right. For the. No matter what.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

The wine. E. No matter what I do. Just the way my brain works and I get in like. Or if I have a name of something in my head, like, I Had an old email that said booking tyrus. Right. Well, my wife made a new email called book Tyrus. But whenever I recall it, I say, I just put in the booking tyrus. It's book. We both know that I am referring to that.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah, but your brain is stuck.

[Tyrus]

I have a glitch. Okay. I'm not gonna be able to.

[Jeff Dye]

I have those almost hourly. Some sort of thing like that. That wouldn't be that interesting to explain. But the one I always reference when I try to explain it is like I was at this coffee shop, coffee commissary in Burbank in California. I'm pulling on this door because it says pull. And everyone's looking at me like, hey, stupid, push the door if it's not working. But in my brain I'm going, it says pull. So yeah, it was backwards on the other side of the glass. But because my brain.

Says pull and sees it the right way, so I'm just tugging on it. And then I'm almost accusing the door and everyone else of being an idiot. Like what? It says pull. But like.

[Tyrus]

And nobody ever, when they think of dyslexia, they think like, you can't you write weird? They don't realize. No, no, the writing is. Is my thoughts.

[Jeff Dye]

Yes.

[Tyrus]

It comes from here.

And it's not a thing where like you have to pull out a card like, hey, before I have this conversation, I'm dyslexic.

[Jeff Dye]

Right? Right. You don't know.

[Tyrus]

Because I'm going to. Cuz what ends up happening is we become smart asses because we can usually finish somebody else's story.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah, we know where they're going.

[Tyrus]

We already know where they're going with this. So that's one of the things that I use it a lot on tv. I'll see somebody on the panel kind.

[Jeff Dye]

Of going off, you already know where they're headed.

[Tyrus]

And I'm like. And then I'll jump in like, oh, I think we were trying to, you know. And they're like, that's amazing timing. It's a birth defect.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah. Where it backfires on me is my tendency to make fun of things. You know, like, as comedians, we like to like dissect things and then criticize them for humor or like make poke fun in something that's absurd. We're all see a thing. Like, we were driving. Me, my friend Nikki and Andrew, we were driving. We were big fans, by the way. They were drive. We were driving and I saw the name of a town and it was so stupid that I made fun of it. And then they go, you know that. That said. And it didn't say what I thought it said.

[Tyrus]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

But like it. Now that I know what it says, it totally makes sense that that town was called that. But, like, it'll only made sense to make fun of it if it was what I thought it was and it wasn't. And so I just look like a dummy. That's where it backfires. But you're like, who would call it down that they're like, that's not what it's called.

[Tyrus]

The good news is, is that you professionally make fun of yourself all the time.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

So you're prepared.

[Jeff Dye]

Okay. To be wrong.

[Tyrus]

It has to be. Because that's. I think that's what they laugh at now.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Is you'll hit them with a joke and you'll take responsibility for something. They're like, yeah, he takes. He's accountable. Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

When also, talking wrong is funnier than talking correct.

[Tyrus]

It is true. Yeah. Especially if you know you're going to do.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Because then when it happens, you almost narrate your own embarrassment.

[Jeff Dye]

I know it's Randy Jackson, but I think it's funnier to say that black guy from the singing show.

[Tyrus]

Yes.

[Jeff Dye]

Right. I know it's Mickey Mouse, but I like saying, hey, look at Disney Mouse. And they go, it's not Disney. Like the talk.

[Tyrus]

So you're basically. You have taken the role of the mildly successful retired father who, like, who just doesn't. Doesn't take the time.

[Jeff Dye]

It's funnier.

[Tyrus]

Yeah. And it drives the kids.

[Jeff Dye]

It's going to get a laugh. Let's say it that way.

[Tyrus]

And if you're next to anyone who has ADD or like, they can't. Can't. People love to do that. Like, I'll say something and everyone will understand exactly what I meant. And then my wife will just cannot let it go. Really cannot let it go.

[Jeff Dye]

She still corrects you on it.

[Tyrus]

Oh, it doesn't matter. What. She still acts like I'm faking.

[Jeff Dye]

I love it. I love that.

[Tyrus]

Like, I. Because it's always the. The booking. I cannot refer to the business email other than what it originally was. And it's book tyrus, not booking. But I'll be like, oh, just put. Put on the booking one. How many times. I'm like, yeah, it will never gonna change. Let it go.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

I cannot. That's one of my biggest pet peeves is I. I get corrections. I get. Okay. But if you correct me on spelling there.

[Jeff Dye]

Right.

[Tyrus]

Wrong.

[Jeff Dye]

You know what I mean?

[Tyrus]

I'm I'm. I'm going. I'm already, like, it's weird that I've.

[Jeff Dye]

Been told by married people, like, that's what marriage is, is understanding the other person and come. You know?

[Tyrus]

And she's.

[Jeff Dye]

She's still fighting that battle on booking Tyrus with you?

[Tyrus]

No, I think. I think it's for men or something. No, no.

[Jeff Dye]

She's nagging you about it.

[Tyrus]

Straight lemon. Lemon juice and razor blades with that one. But I think what it is, is, like, men, you have to understand, overcome, adapt.

[Jeff Dye]

Sure. They don't.

[Tyrus]

Women. No, they just. They. They just enforce their will slowly but surely. Like, year one through five.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

There. It's. There's all kinds of, like, I do.

[Jeff Dye]

Love that about you, by the way. Like, on the show, you're not afraid to do a joke about ladies or about women.

[Tyrus]

No, I mean, which is great. I married up, so I should be allowed to act a fool anymore.

[Jeff Dye]

You just got.

[Tyrus]

No, I'm out the game.

[Jeff Dye]

Woman happy.

[Tyrus]

Yeah. You know, and that's.

[Jeff Dye]

That's hard enough.

[Tyrus]

That's hard enough.

[Jeff Dye]

But I'm still in the dating world. They're like, aren't you that guy that trashes women? I'm like, yeah, but it's always funny. And it's. I agree with you.

[Tyrus]

But you. But you. I think you can make jokes as long as you're consistent. You. I'm always the butt of my jokes. I've never won an argument in my household.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

So no matter where I go, even I'm on stage and I'm talking about my wife, you know, it still ends up where I'm the butt of the joke, you know, because I said a little bit of a health scare. And everyone's like, oh, no, what's wrong? I said, no. My wife threatened me. Like, it's just things, like, because that's how it works. I'll say something clever.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Be really proud of myself. Like, that ought to change the course of this argument. And then it's like, she'll just segue off it and be like, everyone says you lost weight. I don't. I don't. And you're like, come on, man. Like that.

[Jeff Dye]

No, no.

[Tyrus]

I'm winning this argument on. On hay bales. Like, you will not change the venue.

[Jeff Dye]

My excuse for my comedy is like, I'm only guilty of treating women as equals.

[Tyrus]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

Like, you were all fine when I was talking, like, about men like this. Or, like, you know, they'll say, don't make fun of gay people. Like, why I'm get to make fun of everyone but not gay people. Like, I'm treating them like equals.

[Tyrus]

I would be offended if I was at a club and let's just say this is the most diverse club ever. There's a guy in the handicapped, guy in a wheelchair. There's every race of people, every sexual orientations in a row. And the comedian went through and made fun of everything.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

And then when it came, and then, all right, that's my show. I'll be like, hey, man, you didn't make a joke about me. I don't make jokes about black people. I'd be like, wait, what?

Everyone else was fine. Yeah, yeah. But no, I don't want any trouble, bro. Everyone should get it. I. I grew up and once I got into, like. I think we worked. I forget how it happened, but, man, there was. I ended up with. It was some weird trade at school where I traded like a giant. I had a GI Joe battleship. And I was aging out. I was becoming too cool publicly to play with action figures publicly.

[Jeff Dye]

It's a big toy.

[Tyrus]

Yeah. I had to hide it, you know, because. Because when you start playing sports, some of your buddies. A little more mature. Yeah, they don't play with action figures anymore. But, like, I had my GI Joes with my guys and all my other stuff, my wrestling, my. All my. And so I was like, I have to get rid of some of my big stuff.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

So if the boys came by, if they. My friends came over, they would be like, why do you still have the GI Joe battle? And we weren't smart. That's going to be worth money one day, bro. Like, we didn't think like that then. As a man. Now you. I'm.

[Jeff Dye]

I'm like, now you're buying it back.

[Tyrus]

Yeah. That's a lot of what this stuff is. I remember it was a kid before, okay. We used to call him Dirty Socks. Right. We used to pick on this kid named Jamie on our school bus, right? Because he had dirty socks and his name's Jamie.

[Jeff Dye]

That's not good.

[Tyrus]

Dirty Socks. Jamie can't have a girl's name. And. No, no. And he was. We would tease him like, yo. And he wasn't a very good athlete at all. He was horrible. Like, we. We needed an extra body for basketball, so he just had to stand there. He was the guy like, you dribbled around or you go to dunk on. Because Jamie, like. Well, Jamie did have a hidden talent. He lived on the other side where he went to church. He sang in the churches on the Weekends.

[Jeff Dye]

Oh, nice.

[Tyrus]

He ended up being in that group all for One.

[Jeff Dye]

Oh, there you go.

[Tyrus]

So when it debuted and stuff, we were all at the Socks. He didn't say to us, like, the whole summer, where you been for basketball, man. Because in the summertime, we all met at the course, like, every day. And he was like, I'm busy. I'm in a band. We're like, yeah, you're in a band. Yeah, you're in a band. Like. And then I remember Johnny was like, what band are you going to sing? What's the band called? Dirty Socks. Because he always had dirt rings on his socks. He's like, no, it's called all for One. Like that name's stupid. Like, you know, just because. Played basketball games, whatever. We're all sitting. I think it all happened spontaneously, like, because everyone watched the same thing.

[Jeff Dye]

Sure.

[Tyrus]

All of a sudden, All For One comes on. He's got sunglasses and a solo, and they're all singing.

[Jeff Dye]

We were just, yeah, he's got girlfriends now.

[Tyrus]

He's got it. He was everything, like a little short, little chubby dude. Brother was terrible athlete. But after that, like, he'd be walking through the hallways and stuff, and everyone was like. I mean, the girls would follow him, teachers would talk to him, and of course, we're just. I was in too deep. I love that. I couldn't. I didn't have committed to him. I didn't have the ability to be like, hey, man, sorry. I was making fun of you being a bad. I didn't have that.

[Jeff Dye]

Now you can tell. I'm sorry.

[Tyrus]

You know, I refuse. Because he just kind of was like, yeah, he gave me one of those. Like. Yeah, yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

Well, he had hurt feelings.

[Tyrus]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Jeff Dye]

I gave him Dirty Socks.

[Tyrus]

I gave him the inside seat on the bus sometimes. I let him sit on the inside of the seat of the bus sometimes. But, like. But. But as far as the school goes, this guy, he knows Prince.

[Jeff Dye]

Sure.

[Tyrus]

He knows everybody, but he's the man. And I just remember just not having the ability to say good job.

[Jeff Dye]

Well, I think that's what's cool about life in general is like, he. He had his thing, you know, that was like the thing. He was good.

[Tyrus]

He peaked too soon, though.

[Jeff Dye]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyrus]

If you're gonna be in, like, a young. They. I think they were like. They had like two hits or something like that. They had the one big hit of the summer.

[Jeff Dye]

Good. But he probably could still sing.

[Tyrus]

Well, yeah, I'm sure he can.

But it happened like his ninth. He was like, I think he was in the ninth grade. He was a younger guy. And then it was done. I think it has to happen when you out of high school.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah, maybe.

[Tyrus]

Or your senior year.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

You can't have a hit song and still be like, in your. That's a little guy body.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

You know, like, he wasn't. I think if he would. Had that if. Or if the band would have kept going. I think I can't remember how it. How it turned out for me because I was a little hater back then.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

I was focused on my own stuff. I had football teams and shit to make like life is. That's nothing too. You didn't worry about other people.

[Jeff Dye]

Right.

[Tyrus]

You didn't have time. Yeah, I didn't have time. Like, I. My whole life was based around avoiding bedtime and not oversleeping. Like, that was my entire. Like, that was when the worst. The ass beatings, the punishments all came down to not going to bed on time.

[Jeff Dye]

That was it.

[Tyrus]

And being late for school. Because if I missed that school bus, I don't know, I would just stand there in the street just hoping a car would just hit me. I am not walking back to that house.

[Jeff Dye]

Tell him I missed the bus.

[Tyrus]

To have my mom to drive me to school. That is the worst drive. The only music that you could play during that drive is the music from Platoon. When dude's getting shot up. That's sad piano music.

[Jeff Dye]

I'm wondering if I ever missed the bus. I don't even know what would happen if I had missed the bus.

[Tyrus]

You never missed the bus ever?

[Jeff Dye]

I don't think so. Just because, like, I don't even know what, like, in my mind, I can't recall what would happen if I'd have missed it. I don't know if my parents were even home.

[Tyrus]

I miss. My mom worked nights, so if I missed the bus, that means I had to go.

[Jeff Dye]

She wanted to sleep in and stuff.

[Tyrus]

Well, she's. She's come. She would come in. We would literally cross right as we're walking out. Like, she got home at 7.

[Jeff Dye]

Going to bed.

[Tyrus]

Yeah, she's going to bed. We're coming. So we're walking out the door, which means you have to go knock on the door. She's got to get out of bed. That's not going to be fun, you know? And then she's got a cigarette hanging out her mouth.

[Jeff Dye]

She's like, that's why there's a bus. So what do you mean you were late?

[Tyrus]

Why were you late?

[Jeff Dye]

That sucks.

[Tyrus]

Why were you late? And you're just like, well, you don't have a reason.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

You know, and then the car ride is like, and this is why I'm tired. This is why we don't go anywhere. This is why you don't have a father.

[Jeff Dye]

And she's got to deal with the parking lot. Yeah.

[Tyrus]

You're just like, oh, please.

[Jeff Dye]

Terrible.

[Tyrus]

She's in a bathrobe, half asleep. It's the worst. Just kill me. Just.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah, that's not good.

[Tyrus]

No. So I never. I only missed the bus twice, and that was always. But it was. It's funny how that fear, though, because everything back then was like, the end of the world. Like.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

You don't ever saw. Like, it's gonna be fine.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

I think that's another cool thing about getting older is now is, like, when things happen, it's no longer like, oh, my God, what am I gonna do? Yeah. It's like you get hit. Now you're like, all right, this sucks. But I'm good, right? You got to figure this out. This is fine. Like, it. Just it. And you don't have. You don't have kids, right?

[Jeff Dye]

No kids.

[Tyrus]

No kids. You should.

[Jeff Dye]

No kids, no wife, never been married, never had kids. It's pretty good.

[Tyrus]

Do you. Are you a social date? Are you, like, in a relationship right now? No relationship, just kind of just living the dream.

[Jeff Dye]

I'm like, that's why the tour is called the Last Cowboy in la. I'm like, people go, you're not a cowboy. Like, what about used cowboy? I'm like, metaphorically, I am a cowboy. I'm on the road, drifting around, doing my shows. It's just me in my head all the time. So I've. I date, but it's like, I'm. My expectation for a woman or for a relationship is very unrealistic. I don't. I don't want to be. You know, I don't want to do what you have to do to be a good boyfriend and so don't do it.

[Tyrus]

That's honesty.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

So they're not gonna like you anyway.

[Jeff Dye]

That's it. Same. Yeah, it's just like, that. I go, this isn't very fun for me. If I find a woman, that completely blows my mind. And, like, I'm like, oh, this is actually. I'm very open to it. I'm very open to the idea of love. I'm not open to this new modern thing that people are doing. And it feels like dating makes everyone very disposable. Like, with the dating apps and like this second, she doesn't like something you do. She's like, I got the ick. And like, this very pro woman. Nothing a woman does is wrong. And everything a guy does should be criticized.

[Tyrus]

Well, that's as old as time. Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

Or even that. Even what you kind of said earlier with, like, you know, like, I don't. She doesn't have to compromise. I do. Like, I don't. I'm too stubborn and all that stuff. And so I'm good. I feel happy.

[Tyrus]

When did you know you were going to be a comedian?

[Jeff Dye]

I knew I wanted to do comedy.

[Tyrus]

When was the time you actually took the phone call and said, hey, you're gonna do this show this night? Like 23 years old, you just said, what? What? Usually something has to happen. Something sparks.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah. So I was kind of floundering around. Everyone else is going to college. I couldn't go to college just because grades and then, like, also money. I don't know how college works. Even to this day, it puzzles me that people figured that out. Like paperwork and sats.

[Tyrus]

It wasn't for football, I would not.

[Jeff Dye]

Have Mystery to me. Yeah. So I was kind of floundering around. I was working for the church. I was working for a group called Young Life, which is a church related thing, but I worked for the church in Maple Valley and then Young Life and then I worked at Red Robin, like, waiting tables and great burgers. I love it there. And it used to be a better job. Now it seems like fast food or something.

[Tyrus]

It's kind of. I've noticed a couple of drops, but the mud pie dude, so phenomenal.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah, they also started the whole egg on a burger thing. Yeah, that was them.

[Tyrus]

Protein genius.

[Jeff Dye]

They also put pineapple on a burger first. At least first in America. So anyways, I was just kind of. I didn't really have any where to focus my energy or what I wanted to do. And there was a guy named Ronnie Wilson who worked also with the church. And he said, hey, man, what are you doing? And I go, what do you mean? He goes, you're likable, you know, you're fun, you, you, everyone enjoys you, blah, blah, blah. But, like, what? You're not really pursuing anything. You don't go to college, you don't have, like a career. Like, what do you want to do? And I was, like, too embarrassed to say that I wanted to be a comedian. And he actually said pro wrestling, which is funny because he just knew I liked pro wrestling. But he goes, tell me what you want to do. Like, what's your dream? And I go, I don't know. And he goes, no, you must have a dream. He goes, listen, if your dream is to be a pro wrestler, you can tell me that, and I promise I won't laugh at you. And I go, what do you mean? He goes, you can tell me your dream if it's pro wrestler. I think he thought that because he likes so much. Yeah, but I didn't. I didn't want to be it. And he was like, listen, if that's what it is, we're gonna get you a gym membership, and we'll get you some supplements, and we'll teach you how to talk in a microphone. We'll do whatever the thing dreams are to make you that. I'm not just gonna laugh at you and tell you that you're. That you're not able to do it. I'll support whatever dream you tell me. And I said, I want to be a comedian. And he goes, that makes total sense. He goes, everybody thinks you're funny. Go ask 100 of your friends if they would, you know, if they think you could be a comedian. And I bet a hundred of them will say you could. And he was just so supportive and encouraging, and he's like, all right, let's figure out what it takes to be a comedian. You know, like. You know, like, let's get you signed up for an open mic, let's get you an ipod where you have all the comedy albums that you can listen to, or let's get you some books where you can work through, blah, blah, blah. And from that day, I started to be a comedian, and age 23, I went to Giggles Comedy Club, Made the decision, put my name on the list, fell in love with it, and the rest is kind of history.

[Tyrus]

Now. What is your. Is your method? Do you write your jokes or are you kind of in the moment?

[Jeff Dye]

Every day I write. Yeah, I go to a coffee shop for a minimum an hour a day. Sometimes I'm there longer. I write on stage a lot, too. Now, I didn't used to be able to, but now I can just kind of talk about something on stage, and I'm good enough to know, oh, that could be something, or that I'll keep or that I'll get rid of. Didn't used to be able to do that, but now I can do it.

[Tyrus]

Yeah, Yeah, I. I'm an outline guy. Like, I'll just. If I'll think of something and if I remember the word yeah, then I just write it down.

[Jeff Dye]

You're in A unique position, if you don't mind me saying that. Like, you already knew who you were before you became a comedian. So, like, you, you know your point of view, you know who you are. You've got kids, you've got a wife, you have this, you had this great career in wrestling. You have a great career now as a personality. Just being a personality suggests, you know who you are. So that's a lot easier with standup. I started in comedy before I knew who I was. I've been many different. Jeff dies, like in stand up comedy.

[Tyrus]

Oh, we all. Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

Because I was growing, you know, and these are like different chapters of my life. And so that's. That was really hard in the beginning. You know, I'd get booked for a. A corporate gig at age 25 and I'd watch the people in the audience go, the. Is he gonna talk about that? We can identify with, like this. This is some young kid. So that part was very challenging in the beginning and still is at times. But that's. That's also what makes it fun, figuring it out.

[Tyrus]

Well, a lot of people. So when I was in junior high, I got put in a drama class because I was getting a lot of fights and stuff. They thought maybe I could learn to express.

[Jeff Dye]

Sure.

[Tyrus]

Get some stuff with. And I had a drama teacher named Mr. Rivera. Well, I'd always make jokes and stuff. So then we had the talent show and he said, why don't you do a stand up.

[Jeff Dye]

Nice.

[Tyrus]

The talent show. And I was like, just go. Because he used to make me. Oh, go in the cloud. Go to the front of class, tell jokes. Like, I'm just spontaneous. Like.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

And it would happen. And then I got really hooked into Shakespeare. He got me hooked into Shakespeare.

[Jeff Dye]

And so it's pretty sophisticated for being that young. I suppose.

[Tyrus]

You'Re in the California. So that was what night? Ninth grade? Yeah, it was ninth grade. Eighth grade. Eighth grade.

[Jeff Dye]

It's really.

[Tyrus]

And.

We ended up doing Shakespeare festivals and all this stuff. And, and. But I remember.

When I won, I won the Shakespeare festival. And he was like, see, tough guys can. It was taming of the shrewd. It was fills beer, whatever the hell. And so the we. He's like, how many jokes do you think you can tell? Because anybody can be funny once. Like, how many jokes can you tell? And I was like, he's like, could you tell 10 minutes worth of jokes? And I was like, trying. So, you know, and then he was like, well, I want you to write down your stuff. And it was real sophisticated. Like, the concern over A1 sauce at the table. My brother liked it. He liked to drink A1 Sauce out of, like, he'd just drink it. He'd take a drink of it. It's disgusting. And we had a family over and they went to grab it and I yelled, don't. He backwashed. And they're like A one sauce. And so I wrote these jokes. I wrote my jokes. And of course it's. It's ninth grade boy humor. So it's all. It's all beating up your brother. Girls don't like you.

[Jeff Dye]

It's your perspective of that age and.

[Tyrus]

And peeing, not peeing on the toilet seat. I think that was the range of my. My stand up. But I went and I did it. I was a little nervous at first because he kind of put me on the. You know, but you had reverse. You had rehearsals and all that stuff and then went out there and did it. And I won the. I won the talent show. Right?

[Jeff Dye]

Nice.

[Tyrus]

Killed it. Laughed, biggest laugh, whatever, all excited. And then it was like all these acting like academies in California were like, you can go to this one. You go to this one. You go to this one. And I remember.

The bill to like, go to the school was like, Mother was like, yeah, you're gonna have to stick with football, kid. Like, I'm not paying, but for these acting schools or these comedian schools and like, oh, you have a good chance for this. And the school really pushed for me to do that, but they were just like, like, he's 6. At the time, I think I was like 6, 5. And they were just like, yeah, I think. I think sports is probably is because it was just too expensive. And I remember someone said to me, plus, you're too big. Comedians aren't supposed to be big tall guys, supposed to be little guys. I hate when people like, no one's gonna laugh at you, you know, so this is a bad idea. So I got away from it. But it was always there. It always came out. Like I just always would make crack jokes and talk with my buddies in the locker room. That's where I kind of perfected.

[Jeff Dye]

You mixed acting. You're acting.

[Tyrus]

Oh, yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

You're like memorizing Shakespeare. That's not.

[Tyrus]

You can memorize Shakespeare. You can memorize.

[Jeff Dye]

And you mixed your humor with your body type for wrestling. That's what those four things are like. That's all wrestling is.

[Tyrus]

And all wrestling. And all wrestling is Shakespeare storytelling.

[Jeff Dye]

And I hate when so, like, there's some wrestlers that are very bitter who will like, Shoot on other wrestlers and they'll say things. They'll say, oh, you know, like, name four good matches that wrestler had. And I. My pushback is always like, I don't give a about matches, if I'm honest. Maybe people that like technical wrestling or people that like that kind of stuff, that's what they watch wrestling for and that's good for them. But I remember characters and I remember mike work and I remember stories. So yeah, I don't really recall a lot of Kane matches necessarily, but the story that Kane is his brother from Undertaker's brother from this Fire and there was this whole thing like, those are the things I remember.

[Tyrus]

Yeah, I don't remember Kane and Daniel Bryan's win loss record. They were awesome.

[Jeff Dye]

And it's cool. Yeah, it was a fun little duo, like for me. And that's. I'm not saying that the way I watch wrestling is the way anyone should.

[Tyrus]

Watch wrestling, but that's always.

[Jeff Dye]

But some people like matches, but I don't. I like the story. I like when they give me good cinema good, like Shakespearean story.

[Tyrus]

Well, you got, that's. You get him to come back. But wrestling is the same as comedy is the same way. Like you're killing it and somebody be like, oh, yeah, if you like knock knock jokes, you know what I'm saying?

[Jeff Dye]

Like, if you do.

[Tyrus]

Okay, yeah. Oh, you know. Oh, I guess if you like, you know, smartass. There's always going to be that. I, I always would giggle when guys would be. Would say like, well, he's never done this and he's never done that. I'm like, but you're talking about him, right? You know, like if, if. And it's always comes from a place of bitterness.

[Jeff Dye]

That's why it's hard to talk to wrestlers about wrestling because like, I'll like a guy or hate a guy and you know that guy. Yeah, that's the difference.

[Tyrus]

You never, you never.

[Jeff Dye]

Certain people you like, you're able to, like, you might have had some friendship with them or you might have had some. You knew someone that they betrayed or you. Whereas, like, I'm just watching it like a show.

[Tyrus]

You're enjoying the show.

[Jeff Dye]

I just like the guy. And then you go, not you necessarily, but, you know, in general a wrestler be like, well, you know, he did this to this company. And I go, man, I don't.

[Tyrus]

Don't want the backdrop story.

[Jeff Dye]

Oh, he's not a locker room guy.

[Tyrus]

I'm not in the locker room. You imagine that as you're dating, dating a woman and also somebody just comes. Just so you know, her last two relationships, she left early and I don't care. Yeah, she's not a big gift giver. Yeah. Yeah. She's definitely gonna use sex as control. Just trying to let you know that's what you got going on. Just letting you know. Some people said, yeah, wrestling, that happens a lot with guys. Just they forget the whole point even. And that's why I never say anything negative about the sport because there's, there's so many people that want to talk shit about.

Wrestlers, their careers or actors or comedians. Like, it's just such in season. Like when you watch even like espn, these guys talk about the guys in the NBA like, they ain't shitting. Like, bro, you have a job.

Based off his physical. If he doesn't, if the league goes away, you're gone.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah. And Stephen A. Smith used to call for people's jobs. I don't know if he does it anymore, but he'd be like, he should be fired. I'm like, dude, that's a guy's job. Like, please don't say that.

[Tyrus]

The announcers are like. And they realize that the 12th, I think the roster is up to 15 now. But the bottom five guys would destroy anybody else in a basketball game. They are. Everybody there is a world class athlete, 100%. What gives you the right to sit in your chair and be like, this guy is a he. I don't know why they're pay. He shouldn't be allowed in the league.

[Jeff Dye]

Why is this? What I know I actually notice on the other side of the coin, sometimes someone in their thing can be a little too supportive. Oh yeah, I've seen that a lot.

[Tyrus]

Like their favorite guy, Patrick Mahomes, like, his blood type is Kool Aid.

[Jeff Dye]

Like, dude, Mark Henry, like, who I'm obsessed with. I've been a fan of Mark Henry my whole life.

[Tyrus]

Out of the ring is.

[Jeff Dye]

But like Mark Henry, like on Busted Open. Like you listen to him. There was a female wrestling match where they botched the finish. Like the, the, the referee, either she did a three count and it wasn't or like something happened where they told. I mean, I've never seen a botch that big on tv. I've seen him at house shows.

[Tyrus]

Maybe I was a part of one.

[Jeff Dye]

The biggest bottle ever seen. And so then they talk about it on Busted Open and Mark Henry was like defending them and being like, you know, these things are tough. I'm like, Mark, you can't. Like, this one's a big one.

[Tyrus]

You should.

[Jeff Dye]

You should at least go, hey, they screwed that up. But he's just such a good guy, and he's probably friends with these girls. And then also, he's, like, protecting the business and protecting wrestlers. And I was like, mark, at least say that they screwed that up.

[Tyrus]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

Was that.

[Tyrus]

I was. It was. Me and Hornswoggle were feuding with. With Jack Swagger and.

What'S his. Oh, my. Are you kidding me? I've been talking about him for, like.

[Jeff Dye]

It'S already some random name. Jack Swagger. Horn swaggling.

[Tyrus]

No, it was already kind of. Vicky Guerrero was the manager. Dolph, I'm tripping, okay? I love Dolph Ziggler. Like, don't suplex me, brother. That's another inside joke. But. And we're on Monday Night Raw, and I make the tag to Swaggle, and Swaggle comes in, and Dolph, you couldn't have a bad match. Horn Swag against Yes.

[Jeff Dye]

Is a great yes.

[Tyrus]

Me and Horn Swaggle versus Jack Swagger and Dolph, with Vicky on the outside and Funky Doctors are down there, and it's all. Everything's going great. Like, you cannot have a. You cannot have a bad match with Dolph Ziggler. If you try. Like, if I went out in the curtain, we'd be like, I don't care what happens tonight. This match will suck. He just won't let it happen. You know, he's just. And. And Swagger. Jack Swagger doesn't get enough credit, man. That dude can get. He can get heat anywhere. Like, you put him in any arena, anywhere. He says one thing. They just. He's just one of those guys with a crowd. Just used to. It was so much fun to work with him on house shows, because I'd be like, we already got him. We haven't done anything yet.

[Jeff Dye]

Love it.

[Tyrus]

So we're. Everything's going great. Boom, boom, boom. Getting close to the finish. Hornswoggle, screaming for a tag, tags in. Hornswoggle and. And.

Dolph shoots him off and goes to give him a boot, right? And Dolph is magical with his kicks.

Swoggle stopped a good 2ft before the kick. Now, to be fair, he had just recently had a match with Drew McIntyre on Smackdown. So Swaggle was a little gunshot. Drew's snug. Yeah, in a fun way. But if you're, you know. You know, you're only three feet tall, it's probably not gonna be. You notice a little more than a 6, 8 guy noticing it. So Hagle just stopped 2ft before Dolph and Dolph.

And I was on the apron, and I just remember seeing the distance between them, and I just went. I felt like the whole world stopped, and I just went, huh? And looked back on the Tron and saw the distance. And then I was like, I had.

[Jeff Dye]

Enough time, screwed it up. They decided there was nowhere to go.

[Tyrus]

And then the worst part was I'm like, he's. And then he bumped, and it was like you could just hear the waiting echo through the audience. Like, pin dropped. And I just went.

Oh, man. And.

Then there was Dolph. Just kind of had a look on his face like, you son of a bitch. Like, why'd you bump? You know? And so he picked him up, and then we had to go in the finish. And then when he makes the tag, the tag echoes through the building because the whole crowd's like this.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah. Now they're. Now they're out of it.

[Tyrus]

It's done. Yeah. And then there's a. And then it's like, clothesline. Clothesline. Like.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

You know, like, swag. Just pin me. Let's get the hell out of here.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah. Boom.

[Tyrus]

One, two, three. We get out, we go up through the thing, and. And of course, boss is pissed. Vince is pissed. And, you know, the spots are coming through the thing. And I remember Dolph and I are standing there, and Swaggles, like, this guy just walked off. I was like, it was. These guys just left his hanging. But, man, those. And then the next day, of course, it was. It was everywhere. You know, it was all over. And it was so bad that they were, like, killed the whole gimmick. So, yeah, like, that. We were done after that pretty much. But I just remember the social media was, like, going in on it, and I was like, you know what? It happened.

[Jeff Dye]

These things do happen. That's another part of it is that, like, yeah, like, we're not gonna have perfect things.

[Tyrus]

That's how we all know what it is.

[Jeff Dye]

Right? That's all it is. Yeah.

[Tyrus]

So let's. But they can. Those botches, like, they can end careers. Because it's not like. Here's the worst part is. And this is not throwing shade at anybody.

They don't. Most of them. Most wrestlers are shot through a cannon to get to tv, so they don't necessarily have it in their memory bag of ways to fix things on the fly. So if everything you do is put together in the back when something goes wrong, and always something will go wrong. Having. Now if you're in there with a 10 year vet who's been there. But for a lot of the young guys, a lot of times it's not like that. You get. And then something happens. You have to be able to be like, oh, when this happens, I can just hook this here and I can turn this around here. Not like, oh, because you'll see them panic. Like, do it again, do it again. Never do it again ever. Doesn't go right.

[Jeff Dye]

Leave it.

[Tyrus]

Grab a hold. If it's that important, we'll go back to it in another way.

[Jeff Dye]

But I was gonna ask that. If you accidentally hit a guy a little too stiff or if like you poke him or like you have to.

[Tyrus]

Buy him food, your boot.

[Jeff Dye]

Boot drags across. The accident ends it up like kind of actually hurting them a little or something.

Do you just go, we'll talk about this backstage. I'll give him my sorry. Backstage. You don't immediately go, oh, sorry about. Like, you can't.

[Tyrus]

It depends how close you are with the guy in the ring.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Because it's usually your buddy. You hit the worst.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Oh, yeah. You're like, I remember Sandow Damien, we're. And I gave him a body blow and I wasn't really paying it. I just kind of threw it. And normally he doesn't step into anything, but he just kind of the way he's. And I could hear the air. He's like, hold on.

[Jeff Dye]

He's like, oh, son of a. Yeah, something like that. I was wondering about that because I've seen it so many times. We're like, oh, that one was. That's how he meant. He got him in the neck when he was trying to hit him and then whatever. And. And I'd see them kind of talking, but I think they're just talking about the match still.

[Tyrus]

Or it's just like. Or if you got your bell rung. Me and Trevor and the first time we wrestled together and for his. For the NWA championship at the time he was using the goozle finish. So would make sense if my hand was hurt, it'd be harder to do the finish. So I put him up on the pole and I said, I'm throw it. But see, I throw the jab like you're supposed to throw a jab, not some big hanging hook. Looks terrible. So you throw it, you know, and I pull back. You over exaggerate the pullback to give your buddy time to know it's coming. But once you let it go, you gotta, you gotta let it go, you know, because it's Especially if it's his duck moment. I can't, because if I throw it and I pull up, it's me fluffing the pole.

[Jeff Dye]

Sure.

[Tyrus]

Then I can get in the back, like, oh, Tyrus didn't want to hurt his hand. You know what I'm saying? Or something. Like, he's just doing that because Trevor's over tonight. You don't want to give him anything. So I pull back and throw it. And Trevor was just like, hey. And I was like, oh. Oh, dude, it's coming. And it's just kink.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Just like, I pulled up a little bit once I realized that he's not moving, but I had to, you know, and he just slid down the pole, and he's like, brother, I need a minute, brother. And I was like, are you not. You know. But then I knew he's not going anywhere. I just punched him in the thing. I got time to look at the crowd and talk trash, not leave him, because I want the crowd think he's still in danger. And then roll his. Throw his ass up in the ring. And, you know, so the. And then you buy, and then he's still selling. So, hey, put a hold on. Like, we good? Are we seeing clouds, or am I champ tonight? And then, you know, he'll immediately. If you say that to him, if the guy's going over and he gets a little bug. A little bugged up.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Like, should I just pin you? No, no, no, no. I'm good. I'm good, bro. I'm good. No, no, it's me. I'm up still. I'm up still.

[Jeff Dye]

That's great.

[Tyrus]

You know, so it. You do talk. If you. The worst thing is if you don't. You know, if you hit. If you hit a guy and you're just acting like normal, that's when you get in the back and the guy's like, talk to you.

[Jeff Dye]

Here's a great comparison of what you just said of the closest. I can relate to that because I'm not a pro wrestler. I did The Roast of WrestleMania with Tony Hinchcliffe in Vegas this year. So it was like a lot of wrestlers roasting Tony Hinchcliffe, roasting who's the greatest roaster of all time, in my opinion. Myself. I'm a good comedian, but I'm not a big roast guy. But I'm a. I. I can hold my own. And I know enough about wrestling that I. I wrote a real good thing, so I went out and did very well. And then there was other comics, and there's other wrestlers. And then Paul Heyman comes out. The greatest man to ever hold a microphone, in my opinion, as far as. Dude, he's so good. Absolutely incredible. Well, he comes out and roast us. He roasted me real hard. He doesn't even know who I am, but he saw on the monitors backstage, me doing.

[Tyrus]

Oh, he knew everybody that was there.

[Jeff Dye]

So that's why he. That's what things he watches me do well. And he goes, all right, then I'm gonna attack this guy.

[Tyrus]

Yeah, he's gonna go off the top guy. So he.

[Jeff Dye]

He definitely.

[Tyrus]

That's a compliment.

[Jeff Dye]

Hard on me. And then he had. He didn't go as hard on the wrestlers because he's like, I work with these guys and I respect these guys. So he picked me and went really hard on me. It was awesome and I loved it. I'm a good sport. And I also know what a roast is, so go ahead.

[Tyrus]

Yeah, right. Imagine that you went to a roasting.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

And I got offended.

[Jeff Dye]

It's a roast.

[Tyrus]

So they said offensive things to me at a roast. And you think, you know a guy.

[Jeff Dye]

He held nothing back. And it was brilliant and it was genius. And. And I'm already a huge fan of Paul. So, like, it was an honor. But then afterwards, he just spiked the microphone and left. So in my mind, I was like, well, I thought he'd come shake our hand and go like, hey, thanks for being a good sport. Cuz after Braun Strowman and our Truth, and even the Miz, all those guys after they roasted us, they still came and sat, gave us a hug and then sat at the dais or dabbed us up. Paul Hammond gave us nuggets.

[Tyrus]

He don't break character till the DVD release, brother.

[Jeff Dye]

Maybe he does hate me, like, is what I thought. Like, the second that he, like, I spiked, I go. I thought he was gonna get my, like, handshake of, like, it was up to Paul.

[Tyrus]

Heels and babyfaces would never speak.

[Jeff Dye]

Dude, he's the best.

[Tyrus]

Like, he. He started out I My time there. I think I 1 I could not go by him without making him tell me a story.

[Jeff Dye]

Daddy's the greatest.

[Tyrus]

I used to get all the stories, and I used to get all the Barnett stories, my boy. Like, we just all the. All the time would tell me stories and stuff and. But, like, when his love for the business. If he's a heel, he's not breaking, dude. He knows Baby Face Paul would have came back and said hi to everyone, had dinner, but he'll. Paul, he ain't breaking, dude.

[Jeff Dye]

He's the best. I think he's the best.

[Tyrus]

Go talk to Arn Anderson about a match and see how he talks about it.

[Jeff Dye]

It's amazing.

[Tyrus]

Like, they protect.

[Jeff Dye]

He's in trouble this week for shoving a kid. Did you see it?

[Tyrus]

I was like, he's a heel.

[Jeff Dye]

I also agree.

[Tyrus]

And also, it didn't. It wasn't a shove. It was a pickup and move.

[Jeff Dye]

Who cares?

[Tyrus]

It was a shove. That kid would have it like this. He just picked him up and moved him.

[Jeff Dye]

That's not allowed to run up to talent.

[Tyrus]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

This day and age, anytime, for the people that don't watch wrestling who are listening or watching, this is like, if Google fans who get in the ring of wrestling matches, it doesn't go well, dude.

[Tyrus]

But here's the thing. It's a split second. It. It's not like, oh, this child is running towards us. Oh, nobody else is around. He jumped out and Paul just moved him out of the way. He didn't shoving him. The kid, the back. Kids hit the ground. His legs came over his head.

[Jeff Dye]

I'd be fine with that, too. That seems to be the industry norm.

[Tyrus]

Yeah. You'd be like, yeah, that's a little overkill. But he just picked him up and moved him. But again, he made a decision.

[Jeff Dye]

Let that kid.

[Tyrus]

Yeah, it's. You're talking about this. Someone's sitting, oh, I would have done this. You don't know what you would have done. Somebody jumps out at you in a crowd. We're living in a time right now where people are jumping out and attacking, doing dumb things. He has every right to be on edge. It wasn't overkill. He didn't stomp him.

[Jeff Dye]

He did great.

[Tyrus]

He just moved him out of the way.

[Jeff Dye]

What happens every time a fan runs on the field, a streaker or, like, so they get smoked by security. Same within wrestling. If you jump in the wrestling ring, sometimes the referee will beat the shit out of you, like, and go stiff. Like they're actually, like, hurting the person. This is a teenager who ran by security or was able to wiggle by security. And Paul Heyman, who's a heel, who's committed to, like, gayfabe or not kayfabe. Committed to whatever it's called, you know, not kayfabe. Right.

[Tyrus]

You're right. He was committed to kay.

[Jeff Dye]

He's committed to kayfabe. He, like, just gets him out of the way. Like, get out of my way, kid. I'm Paul Heyman, and I can't believe even one person doesn't understand that.

[Tyrus]

But that's the world we live in. People look for things to be outraged. Crazy. They look for angry is. They come full circle. The lady just decided she didn't like you that day. People just look for things to get offended by because they really not that offended. Life's not that bad.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

So to have that much time and energy to write books and pages about anything.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Listen, you should. Paul, should you shove a teenager? No, you shouldn't. Should you shove someone who jumps out at you in a giant crowd through security? Yeah, you should. There's. It's. It's context. It's. And I hate that word because it's like one of those words words. I hate context. To your point, that phrase.

[Jeff Dye]

To your point.

[Tyrus]

To that is that to me is a fancy.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah, yeah. Wasting time.

[Tyrus]

You.

[Jeff Dye]

Just to your point.

[Tyrus]

Yeah. Just to your point. I don't have anything to say.

[Jeff Dye]

That's like when you say it is what it is. Yeah, we know. Yeah, it is. Yeah. What do you mean it is what it is? We.

[Tyrus]

We're living it.

[Jeff Dye]

Said nothing.

[Tyrus]

But they don't. Yeah. I just. Whenever I hear. To your point, it drives me absolutely.

[Jeff Dye]

Well, no, but there are certain circumstances and that's like one of them. Where. And also, like, like you said, the kid's fine.

[Tyrus]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

He's just like a punk kid that wiggled past security. You get him out of the way.

[Tyrus]

I get it. You get again, I was a different kid.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

I wouldn't have ran and jumped.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

You. I would have been that close. Anyway, my mother wouldn't have been paying for those tickets. She'd be like, it's on the tv. Be thankful.

[Jeff Dye]

Right?

[Tyrus]

We have tv. And I would go in the backyard and make my own events.

[Jeff Dye]

Maybe this will help Paul. Maybe this will be just a big thing. Maybe it'll just actually like it's.

[Tyrus]

I mean, I just. Like I said, you. If he would have like a kid was heckling him and he pie faced him in this day and age, you know, it's a problem and you shouldn't touch the fans or whatever. But he had a step to make a decision whether this person who jumped out at him to determine it was a child. It was a short adult. You don't know.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

So. And I thought he handled it within reason.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah. Also a fun. Is a fun story about wrestlers staying in character. So like I'm friends with the guns. Austin Gunn, who's Billy Gunn's son, and Colton the. They're. They're this great tag team in aew and I got Tickets to go see AEW through, uh, Wardlow. And I'm sitting in the front and I did. I, for whatever reason, didn't text all my wrestling friends that I'm coming to the thing.

[Tyrus]

Bastard.

[Jeff Dye]

But so then when they saw that I was down there, they're like, oh, man, Jeff's here. And they start messing with me in.

[Tyrus]

Character, as they should.

[Jeff Dye]

And they're bad guys.

[Tyrus]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

And I'm so dumb in the moment that I forgot about. So I was like, why are they being weird? Like, I was like, it's Jeff. And they're looking at me like, yes, we're working character. And so I'm trying to get them to too sweet. Which they won't do. They're not that. They're the guns. And so I'm in my mind and go, it's Jeff. And they're like, yeah, we know. Like, it was just such a brain fart in my point, in the moment. And then like, afterwards, I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot. I should know above anybody. I've watched wrestling.

[Tyrus]

I like the. When they were feuding with the Scissor Me Squad.

[Jeff Dye]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Tyrus]

I had. I had went to one of Matt Cardona. He had an indie show in. Him and Myers were doing something and it was like, not that far. And they're like, hey, I'm trying to.

[Jeff Dye]

Remember their real name because I don't want to call them the Scissor Me Squad. What are they called? The.

[Tyrus]

They broke up, right? I have. I missed. But they were.

[Jeff Dye]

They were so good.

[Tyrus]

So over. And I remember I went to the thing and the brother was standing there and he was like, hey, man, this is Tyrus. And he went to shake my hand, you know, he was like, hey. And when he went to shake my hand, I was like.

And I was like, hey, good. Hey. Anytime the young guys got something good and going, we should all be all for it.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah, it's great.

[Tyrus]

Yeah, it's a good group of guys. Good tag teams, young tag teams.

[Jeff Dye]

It's like, well, they have the best entrance. The guns. They're doing this like, cool ass thing where they spit the water. They found like a new way to do like Triple H, kind of like water spit. But he does it like with the guns.

[Tyrus]

But everything is from somewhere else.

[Jeff Dye]

Sure. I didn't mean they're ripping off.

[Tyrus]

No, it's not ripping off anymore. Like, I'm still weighing one. Last night I was right before I got on the bike, I. I watched a lot of old stuff and I was watching Orndorff and Paul Orndorff, Mr. Wonderful and Big John Stud at Madison Square Garden. And I was like, when is the wrestler gonna call himself Big Stud again? Like, it's. Stud is a great wrestling name. Yeah. We had Big. It was Big John Stud. Then there was the Diamond Stud.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Scott hall, rest his soul. But I'm like, that was always a heat that would get you. Heat.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

A man with the. Especially nowadays, the toxic masculinity that would incur.

[Jeff Dye]

I would love it. Yeah. It'd be great.

[Tyrus]

And coming out with Stud Stud, like, just.

[Jeff Dye]

It is good.

[Tyrus]

It's a great.

[Jeff Dye]

I do think they are stealing too many things in wrestling, though. Like, as far as. Like, there was a time where we had two Harley Quinns after the movie. Harley Quinn. Like, Liv Morgan and Alexa Bliss were doing Harley Quinn.

[Tyrus]

Yeah. Everyone was doing Harley Quinn.

[Jeff Dye]

I'm like, why? We don't need. We know what you're ripping off or tributing or cosplaying or whatever you want to call it, but two of you are doing it at the same time. Or like, I'm trying to think of a good example, like, when Triple H started doing Shao Kahn from Armageddon or from Mortal Kombat.

[Tyrus]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

It was a little too on the nose.

[Tyrus]

Exactly. You got to. Well, I. I do know that we used to be able to. Depending on who the toy company was.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Because for a while, I was having all kinds of he. Man stuff made, but it was like, subliminal Beastman. Like, I was taking all the bad guy care.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

And the character stuff. And I was putting, like, whatever DC character they were working with that we were allowed to. I had the inside because my. My toy did so well. So I would always be like, hey, what's coming out? You know? Because then I would do my gear accordingly. You know, Kofi was big on that. Kofi was, like, doing Joker stuff and, like. But he was doing it, like, as a new toy would come out or whatever. He would have the gear. So I. I get that. But then it gets to a point where you're like, you still got to make it yours a little bit, though.

[Jeff Dye]

You should. Yeah. That's how I see it.

[Tyrus]

You got to make. You can't just say, hey, I'm Bane. You know what I'm saying? Because I had a Bane gear.

[Jeff Dye]

They do stuff like that.

[Tyrus]

Yeah. But it's like, no, you're not Bane.

[Jeff Dye]

Drives me crazy. Yeah. I can't think of. Recently, there was something that happened. I don't know if it was music.

[Tyrus]

I also know, like when, When Marvel endgames came, everyone. Their mom had a glove. All of a sudden everyone had the. Everyone had, you know, everyone was Thanos.

[Jeff Dye]

Well, there was one guy who just did Sub Zero, just straight up.

[Tyrus]

That's, that's.

[Jeff Dye]

Was it Staffa Mustafa or whatever? You're thinking of Glacier.

[Tyrus]

Yeah, Glacier.

[Jeff Dye]

But there was a guy after that, Mustafa, who was like in the. Oh yes, he was in the. The cruiserweight division for a lack of better term. And he would like, came out, he had like the glowing hand and like the thing. And I was like, it was kind of Iron man meets Sub Zero. And I go, everything's just getting ripped off.

[Tyrus]

Yeah. And all you really had to do was an arm drag.

[Jeff Dye]

Right. That'd be great.

[Tyrus]

You be a spaceman to the ring. But just when the ring starts, all.

[Jeff Dye]

Of it, I'm just going, you're a.

[Tyrus]

Wrestling purist and a comic purist. Just what's next for you? Like you've conquered Australia. What's next for.

[Jeff Dye]

I'm just doing the touring, which is great.

[Tyrus]

Gild. You're doing Gill this week tonight.

[Jeff Dye]

Trying to think like really the main thing I've been doing lately is just my podcast, cuz I tour every night anyways.

[Tyrus]

Right.

[Jeff Dye]

So the main thing I, you know, if people want to check me out or listen to me more, it's called Die Hard Podcast. I do once a week, sometimes twice a week if I have like a guest that I want to feature. But it's. It's good to just get on something like this and talk, you know, and so that's been really fun for me and. Yeah, that's it.

[Tyrus]

No. What countries have you not been to yet? Which next. What's the next big country?

[Jeff Dye]

Well, so I've been to over like 50 different countries.

[Tyrus]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

But that was for my travel show on NBC. And then also just like, you know, going with a girl or whatever. For stand up, I've only done Australia, America, Canada and Mexico. Those are the only four countries I've done for stand up. So wherever they book me. But I like it here in the States.

[Tyrus]

Yeah, no, yeah, Better. It is better. I don't like. Well, you. The short beds.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Overseas and the, the disrespect for the way they prepare bacon.

[Jeff Dye]

Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. It's not real crispy.

[Tyrus]

No. It's hard to get crispy bacon anywhere but the good old US of A.

[Jeff Dye]

Earlier I was gonna say. Or earlier when I said that you would do good in Australia because they're what they're kind of going through also. They would love you because they love Gutfeld there.

[Tyrus]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

I didn't know Australians are watching Gutfeld and they're like. They're like, you don't have to change anything. They know everything you do. They love Gutfeld. And I go, that's interesting.

[Tyrus]

Yep, they do. When I was out there, I noticed it's very. It's very. They're very similar. Like, they're very divided in terms of, like, either one or the other. Politically. You're very liberal or you're very conservative. Yeah, there's like, very, very cut like that.

[Jeff Dye]

Which is interesting, too, is that I. So I was like, do I need to change anything for my show? Like, is there anything they won't get? They go, they'll get everything. But one thing they didn't tell me that they should have told me is that in Australia, if you're a liberal, that means you're like a straight white guy with money. Like, they use the term liberal different than we do. So they're like, say lefty or, like, Democrat. But don't ever say liberal because it makes no sense. I'd be like, these liberals at the coffee shop, I'd be like.

You'Re a liberal. We love liberals here.

[Tyrus]

Yeah, it's a lot of liberals running around in Australia. Very liberal country.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Aborigines ain't thrilled about it, but. Yeah, when I was out there, that was. We had this. I was out there with Snoop and we went to a park for, like, a charity benefit or whatever, and a protest had started off to the side. It was still, you're on stolen land.

Acknowledgments. And they were like, you know, snoop, help us get our land back. And the guy was like, he's going to help us, right? And I just was, I'm bodyguard. I'm just standing there. And he was an old guy, and he kept asking and he kept asking and I kept asking, and he was like, brother, please, man. Brother, brother. He's gonna help us, right? And I was like.

As soon as we get in the car, I will let him know your plight and see what we can do.

[Jeff Dye]

That's nice.

[Tyrus]

Can we drive off? He said, no.

[Jeff Dye]

That'S really funny.

[Tyrus]

We drove off. I was just like, but also, what are you.

[Jeff Dye]

What's he supposed to do?

[Tyrus]

Like, my whole thing. I said in the car, I said, hey, do you want to say anything? Anything to, you know. And he was just like, what. What can we do? Right? Like, we're guests here.

[Jeff Dye]

Let's Say I give him $50 million. How does that fix the situation?

[Tyrus]

Well, yeah, well, that's what that. The American way. You give me $50 million and doesn't change it. Pay myself and some family members to form a committee to discuss the possibilities of actually fixing that. Then, of course, then we have to have another committee to oversight that committee. And that's changed, obviously. Oh, we ran out of money because by the time we got all the committees and got everybody paid for the.

[Jeff Dye]

So, yeah, it's all a coup.

[Tyrus]

It is a coup, isn't it?

[Jeff Dye]

It feels like it, yeah.

[Tyrus]

Well, this was fun.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah. Thanks for having me, man.

[Tyrus]

It was cool, man. I always. For. I. No, there's wrestling fans and there's. Then there's wrestling, like scientists. You are definitely a wrestling scientist.

[Jeff Dye]

Well, that's nice. I, like, try to defend the appearance of wrestling that I like. Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Because you just watch it. Yeah. For what it is. And enjoy it. Have a good time. When it's. Don't come back and dissect it.

[Jeff Dye]

I constantly remind myself, if I start to, like, not like a person, I'm like, jeff, you're taking it too serious.

[Tyrus]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

Because I can get ticky, tacky. And then I coach myself, like, what are we doing?

[Tyrus]

Yeah, I watched. I watched war games with my son and his. His cousins this weekend.

[Jeff Dye]

What'd you think?

[Tyrus]

And. Oh, it was good.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

And when they were four matches, that.

[Jeff Dye]

Was kind of fun.

[Tyrus]

Yeah. They were pissed about Cena. Oh, yeah, they were pissed. And I was just watching them and. And I was, like, letting them just act it out, you know? Like, the ref was like, come on, ref. And, yeah, you know what? And I was like, you know what? This is not my place. Like, just. I used to be this guy. I'm not taking this away from you.

[Jeff Dye]

That's great.

[Tyrus]

And I was like, yeah, that was. Man, Cena. Cena could have kicked out.

[Jeff Dye]

I love it.

[Tyrus]

If he really wanted it, he could have kicked out. And they're like. Or without his plan. I was like, you never know with Cena. He's tricky.

[Jeff Dye]

That's great.

[Tyrus]

You know? And then one was like, did you ever wrestle Cena? Yep, one time. Kicked his ass. Never won a rematch, so I'm good. That's true.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah, but that's great. What a fun thing for them.

[Tyrus]

But it was nice to see them just be like. Like, actually, guys, you know, it's fake and he's retiring next. Like, they were just, like.

[Jeff Dye]

They were in it.

[Tyrus]

They were in it. Because then they're like, now he can't retire. Yeah, he can't. He can't leave. Yeah. Dom, tell everyone he beat him. Like, you're wrong, dad. He's coming back. He's not retiring.

[Jeff Dye]

And I was like, this breaking of kayfabe stuff is maybe the worst thing that could have ever happened to wrestling.

[Tyrus]

Internet was killed wrestling.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

Yeah, because not killed it, it's just. It just, it just lowered the level of like, it Also, it's not Santa Claus and wrestling and magicians.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

And Bigfoot probably got it worse with the social media. I think that's the group that have suffered the most.

[Jeff Dye]

Well, it's like you want the wrestlers to do well, like, I want wrestlers to have families and get paid and do all this stuff. And so how do you get paid in modern times? You know, you have a podcast or you do appearances or you do autograph signings or like you're. You become these celebrities. The problem with that though is like, you can't be in kayfabe for that whole thing.

[Tyrus]

No.

[Jeff Dye]

So like, it's inevitably killed itself and they go, oh, unreal on Netflix ruined kayfabe. It's like, no, it was already ruined.

[Tyrus]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

Tweeting all day or like posting videos of what they eat or going on Logan Paul's thing. So it's like kayfabe was already squashed.

[Tyrus]

Yeah, no, they were like, it's open.

[Jeff Dye]

And if you want these wrestlers to make money and be stars, then you kind of have to just.

[Tyrus]

Just enjoy the show, you know? You know your favorite Handmaid's Tale, they're not really getting their face.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah, exactly. But I also want there to be more secrets in wrestling.

[Tyrus]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

Whereas, like, I don't need that to like, see that a wrestler is going to the arena, like on Twitter.

[Tyrus]

Yeah.

[Jeff Dye]

I want to be a big surprise. I don't want to see that Zack Ryder's like, I'm on the way to the performance center. I want to just. That would have been great to hear your music and just get excited, just pop.

[Tyrus]

Yeah.

Well, maybe, I don't know, maybe when AI will fix it or something.

[Jeff Dye]

Maybe. Maybe it'll be optimistic.

[Tyrus]

Maybe after Armageddon, when all the wires and everything's down and we return, wrestling will be there.

[Jeff Dye]

That'd be great.

[Tyrus]

We just hitting towns, doing carnivals.

[Jeff Dye]

Wrestling and comedy are like roaches. You can't kill them.

[Tyrus]

You can't kill them.

[Jeff Dye]

Yeah.

[Tyrus]

And you can't kill us. So again, man, thanks. And thanks for having me. Yep. Get ready for some good old fashioned gut feel tonight.

[Jeff Dye]

Thank you.