A (3:09)

Are you getting your eight hours in? Are you getting your seven, eight hours in? Because that's important.

B (3:13)

Yeah.

A (3:13)

Are you getting enough rest so you go to bed early? Like so like when, when do you shut it down? 8:00'? Clock?

B (3:19)

Yeah, sometimes I, I do fall asleep at like seven.

A (3:23)

Okay. Yeah.

B (3:24)

Well if you, yeah, in, in. If I do, you know, lose sleep, I, I might sleep, you know, a few hours within the day too. And I do get, I, you know, I do get a lot of rest. So basically if I'm feel. If I'm working out really hard and I'm feeling it in my body, especially my legs. Okay. Okay. Said I lie down and I close my eyes and I just. There's this total power nap. No music or what was that?

A (3:51)

I call it a power nap.

B (3:53)

Yeah. Power nap. Yes, yes. It's very. It takes work too because you know, you got to focus, you know, focus on like trying to relax out all.

A (4:03)

The noise and everything that's going around you. And so you get up anywhere from 1am to 5am in the morning. Do you eat? First stretch. Like, what's taking me through this?

B (4:13)

Oh, you know what? I, I recently started on a new diet and so I have, I have been eating breakfast past few days, but before I was on a different diet and I just, I saw a dietitian and she goes, oh, you got to be eating breakfast. So I, I wasn't actually eating breakfast, but I. Typical day, you know, I make coffee. I am a smoker, so I've been working on that. I have quit smoking.

A (4:44)

You smoke cigaret regrets?

B (4:45)

Yeah, I do, but I, I have quit before. So I, I've been, I've been working on that, working on my diet, working on quitting debt and so basically within the time that I, that I get up, I might even start doing videos, you know, right. Right after I get, you know, coffee going. And you know, we have, we have a lot of steps in our house. Like we, we've got our, our basement steps. We got our steps upstairs. Yeah, I've constantly go.

A (5:16)

I see you go up and down quite. I've watched all your workout stuff. I'm a big fan and it's not just me. There's a lot of my buddies and stuff in the WWN stuff. They're always impressed with your work ethic. Like, you have an amazing work ethic.

B (5:30)

Oh, thank you so much. I appreciate it. That's so cool. I watch so much WWE stuff and I see the different followers guys from the W that might like, I think earlier today. I've seen it before. Rob Van Dam.

A (5:47)

Yep.

B (5:47)

Yeah. You like one of the, one of the videos.

A (5:49)

Some of my buddies that are big fans of yours, Kofi Kingston's a big fan of yours. Kevin Nash, Trevor Murdoch, Aaron, who is Sandow. Like you have a lot of big time fan. TJ Wilson, a lot of former W. Whenever I see them, we're always checking out your videos and stuff. Do you ever. When you, when you plan to do your video, because you do a lot of karate and then sometimes you. I want to talk about your music too, because we haven't got there, but we're still talking about the physical stuff. When, when you decide to make a video, do you have one thing? Like a specific thing? Like today I'm going to work on your hand speed or I'm going to show them how to do lower body moves and kicks. Because you, you do a lot of, you do a lot of jumping and a lot of movement is there. Do you have a specific thing or you just kind of, you just kind of feel it?

B (6:39)

Yeah. So basically what I do sometimes when I get, you know, like a writer's block, like that where I get blocked. I can't, I can't.

A (6:49)

Oh, you're preaching to the choir, brother. Yeah, it happens to me on TV all the time. Yeah.

B (6:53)

Oh, yeah. So. So. Oh, totally. Yeah. So what I do is I just kind of like I might sit and focus and I'm like, okay, I've done this part of the area of the house or this part of the backyard. I've done these different moves. And the thing with like, right. With when I started in karate, a lot of it is a lot of what in Tang? So that was the style that I did was a lot of the tongue. Intoxico forms are kind of like different positions and different areas of different. So you're kind of moving this way. I'm moving, you know, like this and then I'm moving, you know, like that or right. So I'm doing different positionings but in different, like, sides. Like, if you think of like different sides, size of the room and then, you know, try and so some in. Within that. That can kind of like, you can kind of imagine. Okay, I've already done this area. I've already done this, this part of. What can I do differently, right? What can I change or, you know, you know, fix if, if I did something similar, what can I, you know, if, if I want to do something that people are going to see and they're going to really enjoy or really, like, you know, like. And so what should I do differently? Right? Yeah, so it's, it's pretty cool.

A (8:19)

Now is your style that you, that you currently were working on, is that more self defense opposed to aggressive attacking, Is that more counter. Is that more counter style?

B (8:29)

Tang Soo do in Tang so do even I've. I read stuff all the time, but I was reading, I was actually reading the other day about Tang so do. And I even remember our main instructor. You know, he was, he was kind of like, you know, in tongue, if you compare Tang Soo do and Taekwondo, Tang Soo Do. So you know, more in the self defense. It's not so much, you know, as far as like Taekwondo, it's more like fast kicks, like.

A (8:55)

Yeah. Just to get people back. Yeah. Because, you know, a guy your size, with your level of athleticism and your, Your power there has. You have to show a lot of responsibility and humbleness because you can hurt somebody, you know, even.

B (9:08)

Oh, thank you. You're right. Exactly. So this. Yeah.

A (9:11)

With great power comes. Great.

B (9:14)

Yeah. That's so cool. And I've seen your stuff.

A (9:19)

It's hard. Little guys annoy me. Yeah. You know, and the little guy annoys me. I want to just. But I know, hey, I can't, you know, and you're kind of in that same boat. Do you find it difficult sometimes when, you know, little ratty trolls and stuff, you just want to.

B (9:37)

You know what.

A (9:38)

Or is it the training that gives you balance to where, like you just because you're always happy?

B (9:43)

Yeah, yeah, it's. It's always. He was, when I was growing up, our main instructor, he was always very much about discipline and disciplining myself. Everything's got to be really exact.

A (9:55)

Yes.

B (9:55)

On point, really, you know, very. A lot of discipline. So everything's got to be right, you know. Right. And so, So a lot of those habits and within a lot of the school, you know, school that I did, it was very serious. Right, that's what I was trying to say. Yeah, very serious. So in the moves, it's like you gotta do it right or else, you know, blah, blah, blah. Right.

A (10:21)

Or what's your favorite is. Is kicking or striking? Which is your favorite? Is it throwing the punches? Because you're, you're pretty mean on the heavy bag too. So is it. Is the boxing or is it the kick? What is your, what is your preferred exercise you like to do when you're, when you're doing displays? Because it seems like you really like showing your hand Speed.

B (10:40)

Yeah, I, it's, you know, I Love, I love the upper body. You know, I'll tell you, you know, when, when I was growing up, when I was younger, see, I'm five seven, so, you know, I was, what, I was short. Yeah. I was shorter.

A (10:55)

Oh, because you come out, I thought you were my high, like six, seven, six, eight, Maybe even taller. Yeah, because your, your appearance is, is bigger, you know. You know, and, you know, I think like, around 6, you know, 6, 7. 6, 7 ish. You know, I was thinking maybe around that height, but you're 5 7, so that is even more impressive that you're able to get that height, because little guys typically can't jump that high. And so, you know, you get some pretty good height with your kicks and stuff. So if you were to pick one thing, is it an overhand right? Is it a roundhouse? Like, what if you had to, if you had to win a competition with a finishing move, like the end of Karate Kid, you know, they had the Crouching Tiger. What would be your finish?

B (11:34)

Oh, my finishing move?

A (11:36)

Yes.

B (11:36)

Oh, probably. Like, I do like those really fast punches. So, like, I do.

A (11:42)

So you set the guy up. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.

B (11:45)

He's wobbling or I, I do really, like a classic just hard punch. Like a really like, like power punch.

A (11:51)

Just in the nwa and when I was in the nwa, when I won the championship, I was using the heart punch as a finish. So I would pull back and crack a guy dead in his chest. He stopped breathing. Oh, he's only got to stop breathing for three seconds. I just need a 1, 2, 3. And then I won the thing. So I'm a big fan of the, the rapid fire also. Now, have you ever, have you ever thought about becoming a professional wrestler? I mean, you've got the look, you've got the athletic skill. You're not, you know, you can talk. Is this something you've ever thought? Because, you know, I know people.

B (12:20)

Yes.

A (12:20)

You have a tremendous. Yes.

B (12:22)

Oh, absolutely. You know, I, I, I pretty much, I work so hard on a daily basis. I see. I watch so much actual wrestling things and wrestling videos and workout videos that, that I, I'm actually, you know, willing to do, to do, you know, anything. Like, I, like, I'm, I'm one of those guys where I'm like, okay, you know, go for, you know, try, try, try things or, or, like. And I do, I do know that wrestling can be very hard. It can be very, you know, because you see, like, hitting, like hitting your back, you know, or. But I, absolutely, yeah, that, that would be so cool. I, I could totally see myself doing, I feel, you know, the, the.

A (13:07)

And you even have. You got the fire on your, on your, the fire tattoos, which tells everybody that you got you throwing heat.

B (13:16)

Yeah, it's, it's, it's, you know, it's. I got it mainly for looks, but I, I got it. It's inspired by, you know, because I'm a guitar player and I.

A (13:26)

Okay, now let's, let's, let's segue from the brutality that is you, the super masculine man. And now we have the musician, and you're pretty mean on the guitar. So when did you start taking guitar lessons?

B (13:39)

When I was 12 years old. Right after karate. Yep. I told my dad, I go, I want to play guitar. And he goes, you know, my parents were, were professional musicians.

A (13:52)

Oh, okay, cool. So it was in the, it's in your blood.

B (13:55)

Yeah.

A (13:56)

So to speak.

B (13:57)

Thank you. Yeah. And he goes, he goes, joel, I'm going to buy you a guitar as long as you play it. And so I just, I was so obsessed with music. I said that's, that's just all I like a lot of what I did for, for so long, like, you know, within the other, you know, within my other free time, you know, that I had free time that I, well, there's.

A (14:21)

A lot of musicians in wrestling. Chris Jericho and of course Hulk Hogan, rest his soul. He was known for playing the bass guitar, you know.

B (14:29)

Yeah. That's so cool. I know. Yeah. There's so much. Yeah, I, you know what? And I, I, I. And I know you mentioned some names before.

A (14:39)

Kobe Kingston plays the guitar.

B (14:40)

I know, I know, I know. And, and I, I'm not like, familiar with every, like WWE wrestling or every little bit. I, I follow and I watch so many things and I watch it. That's so cool. Yeah, that's so, so cool. Yeah.

A (14:57)

Now when you like, is there. Did you have a favorite artist? Was it like Jimi Hendrix or a Van Halen? Or was it just that you had really cool parents that played and, and you wanted, you wanted to be like them? Or was there a particular person that when you saw played like a prince or someone that played the guitar, you're like, hey, man, I want to be like that guy. Was there anyone who influenced you that way?

B (15:17)

Yeah, so it was mainly what, see what my parents, you know, it's funny story, my dad, the only music he listens till still to this day is classical music because they play cello.

A (15:33)

Oh, nice. Yeah.

B (15:34)

Yeah.

A (15:34)

And so that's the big violin, right?

B (15:37)

Yeah, basically.

A (15:39)

Yeah, it's like. It's like a chubby violin. Okay.

B (15:41)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so he. He. What does I say? Was my sister growing up with my sister, she was in a punk rock.

A (15:52)

Oh, wow. So you have classical music, punk rock, and then you're trying to figure. Oh, and a bunch of my guys in the booth are big punk rockers, so.

B (15:59)

Oh, nice. That's so cool. Yeah, punk rock is awesome. Yeah. You know, when I. So I. I was. I was like into like, what you. You know, what. Some of the music she was listening to, Like, I liked it.

A (16:14)

Yeah.

B (16:14)

And, like, I wouldn't listen to it for a little bit. And then I would go on Yahoo. Music. There was no YouTube, I don't think yet. And I would go on Yahoo. Music and I would look at, like, different bands. Like, there'd be like, rancid, right? Metallica. I would see, like, bands like, you know, afi. Like. Like there's like the. The emo pop, punk, and then there's there was this. So I was like. I wouldn't even say there was like, necessarily a specific guitarist that I was like, so attracted to or drawn to. Like, I mentioned Metallica. Right. I was really into. And so.

A (16:53)

Well, anybody who lift weights is into Metallica. You know, like, everyone has a bench press record to enter Sandman or AC dc. All my big lifts were always done to AC dc, but. But I've been known to put on a few Metallica things here and there. Cause it's just a. You get up for it, you know, like when you lift. What music is Metallica? What gets you going? What gets you fired up?

B (17:15)

Yeah. So, you know, you got Metallica, you got Megadeth, you know. I do, I do. You know, in the past, you know, maybe when I got out of high school, I started kind of getting into hip hop a little more than I was when I was younger because I was so into guitar. And then, you know, I was in band, I was playing in bands, and I was like, you know what? I kind of started changing it up. I was like, listening to hip hop. My stepbrother was kind of playing like. He would play like, what's his name? Like, Flow Rider, even my mom.

A (17:50)

Oh, so you got some rap? Some. They busted some rapping. So you. You went from classical music, punk rock, hardcore, heavy metal, and now you busting some rap. So you. You're a jack of all trades, master of a few. That's kind of.

B (18:03)

Yeah. Oh, thank you. Yeah. So there was. There's so much music. And I was gonna say was The. There was. There wasn't really a specific guitarist, at least at that age.

A (18:16)

At that age, when you got older, I was like.

B (18:18)

But I would see guitarists play solo, like on tv. Play solos, like on tv. And I was just so obsessed with it. I.

A (18:26)

It.

B (18:27)

If I get a guitar, I learn how to play. I'm gonna write my own music, my own. I'm gonna go with my own style. I'm gonna get a band, I'm gonna do that, I'm gonna perform. And that's.

A (18:37)

Did you. Did you ever write a song?

B (18:40)

Yes, I was. This was the name of the band that I was in.

A (18:44)

Oh, wow. Full Revolution. All right.

B (18:47)

And we. We. We actually did pretty. Pretty big shows. We were like. When we were like 16, 17 years old, we. We played Qualcomm Stadium once. But we also. Yeah, yeah, we had our own original songs. We didn't even really do cover songs that we did. Maybe some Guns and Roses. But we opened up for the. The key club in LA. We were like 16, 17.

A (19:14)

Yeah, I know the Key Club.

B (19:16)

Oh, yeah. We opened up for Adler's Appetite.

A (19:18)

Oh, wow.

B (19:20)

Yeah. I have, like, pictures. Did you want to see a picture?

A (19:23)

I would love to see a picture.

B (19:26)

This is me when I was at the Del Mar Fairgrounds.

A (19:31)

Well, look at that beautiful hair.

B (19:33)

Yeah, you had the log.

A (19:35)

She. Wait, what. What happened to the hair?

B (19:37)

I know.

A (19:39)

That's like Samson and Delight this dude has. Magnificent. You have a lion's mane.

B (19:44)

Thank you.

A (19:45)

What happened?

B (19:46)

You know, I. I.

A (19:48)

Was it a woman? Was it because a woman to break your heart and they make you lose your hair? Because that's what happened to me. I had a magnificent mohawk and my wife made me shave it. She said so I could be respectable. Guess what happened? It wouldn't grow back after that. So put that picture back up.

B (20:08)

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

A (20:09)

Why is this not the COVID Like the. I mean. I mean, what happened to this band? Why aren't you guys still touring? Who was responsible for the breakup? That's what I want to know.

B (20:20)

And let's see. That's what happened. What happened was we were kind of going towards the heavier side, like a heavy metal, right? And they were into metal, but they kind of like kind of set back and they were like. They. They originally were a three piece band, okay. And so I was like an extra member. I became like a member.

A (20:39)

You added a two piece.

B (20:40)

So they were kind of like. What was that?

A (20:42)

You added a two piece to them.

B (20:44)

Boom. It. It said they. They wanted to go back to being a three piece. Member. And they wanted to be more in the classic rock.

A (20:55)

Oh, okay.

B (20:55)

I was more. They said, creative differences. Yeah. I was too, like, fast with the. In the solos and. And some of the metals and heavier side and Herbaloc, and I was. And I can't. I couldn't do the classic rock. And. And I was doing what they were, you know, what they wanted. It was just. They wanted to stay a three piece. But you know what? When you mentioned the hair, what I was gonna say was the main reason actually why I shaved the hair off is because at that age, you know, 16, 17, 18, I was doing so much, like, guitar and head banging, right. And then I would go out and outside and I go run. I go like sprint, right. Really fast. I was like, do you see? I was much skinnier. I'm skinny. I mean, leaner.

A (21:49)

Leaner. Yeah, because you're jacked now. There's a difference. Yeah, there's a difference. Chunky buff is okay.

B (21:58)

He was. Oh, I was. Yeah. I would get so sweaty with my hair.

A (22:06)

Yeah. It was me playing football and stuff. Yeah. My hair would be just a hot mess. So it'd be.

B (22:11)

Just shave it off.

A (22:11)

Yeah.

B (22:13)

It can be like. It's so much work. Right. Yeah. And so I. I shaved it off and I. And my st. So my stepdad's bald. My stepbrother's bald.

A (22:23)

So you knew it was coming.

B (22:25)

Yeah, you saw that.

A (22:27)

You saw the glare at the end of the tunnel. You knew the. It was coming.

B (22:31)

Yeah, well, it wasn't falling off, but I just. I just decided to say it up and I did grow it back, like four, maybe like four years ago. Four or five years ago, I did grow back, but then I had like, a bald spot, like, kind of like right here. It was kind of. I would slick it back.

A (22:47)

Yeah. We got a guy on our team named Harry. He's got a big bald spot in the back of his head. But he does, like, the comb over thing. He does like.

B (22:53)

Oh, yeah, yeah.

A (22:53)

We all pretend like I'm tall enough I can see it, but I pretend like I don't because, you know, I don't want to hurt his feelings. So, you know, But. Oh, he just heard that. So now he's touching his head, but. Sorry, Harry, we're just playing. So. Okay, so you've got the. You're. You're an accomplished musician. You're not just a guy playing in his garage. And then, of course, you know, you have the martial arts and the boxing. When did you just put. Decide to put it all together and Start making content. When did you decide to take your skills and turn it into a very successful platform?

B (23:29)

Yep. Oh. So right when I got out of high school, it was 2010. And so the. I noticed my stepdad, you know, was like, you know, the iPhones are becoming really popular. Smartphones.

A (23:46)

Yep.

B (23:46)

So he got us. Our family got us. I can't remember which. Which model it was, but I. I got an actual iPhone, and I was 18 years old, and it had a camera and it had video. So I thought it was so cool because I was in the right guitar. So I would film, do guitar videos, post them to, like, MySpace, Facebook, YouTube, before Instagram or Tick Tock were out. And so as I got older, I learned different tricks. See, I didn't get, you know, right. As many views as I have right now.

A (24:25)

Right.

B (24:26)

But I would. I would learn tricks, watch videos, read, and, you know, watch interviews and stuff. And so I was about. I would also. What I would also do, I would also take pictures of me doing, like, a flying sidekick. Right?

A (24:44)

Yeah, yeah, I've seen those. Yeah.

B (24:46)

And I would just take like a. Like a video of me doing it and then, like, take a picture of it and just post a picture or something. And then it wasn't until I would do that a lot. And then it wasn't until like, 2000. No. Yeah. Like three years ago, I. My guitar. I was doing a lot of guitar videos, and they were kind of building up a lot of views. And I go, okay, Joel, if you. If you. You know what? If you film yourself, like, in a karate uniform or just jumping around doing punches and just jumping around as fast as you can on. On camera and just post it on Instagram and Tick tock, Facebook and YouTube and it's. I bet you it'll blow up. And sure enough.

A (25:37)

Oh, it blew up. Yeah. It would be a nuclear mushroom blow up, like.

B (25:43)

Yeah.

A (25:44)

And, you know, you. You. One of the nicknames people, they call you Butterbean Junior. No, no, you're not a junior, bro. You're a boss. Yeah. You know, like, because you have charisma, you know, and you got to kind of. You got to. If I was to give you. As a fan, I would say that you are no junior. You are to be the man. You got to be the man. You know, but in that aspect of things, like. And I think it's amazing that you. That you. You took something you like doing and you invested in yourself and listen, people make videos all the time, you know, workout videos, guitar videos, all that kind of stuff. And it doesn't really move anything. What do you think is so different is about you? Is it the. The fact that you're always smiling, you're always positive, you're always teaching? What, what makes your stuff so much different than, like, my guy, My guy, my buddy Harry here, who's on one of the podcasts on the show, he does workout stuff all the time. He gets like three views, you know, and like, like one of them's from his mom, you know, like, he's just. He doesn't get. And then you'll do 35,000, 100,000, like, you know, all these top celebrities around the world, like, checking out your stuff. Like, what do you. What do you. Do you think about that? Like, what makes you so different?

B (27:01)

Yes. Yes. So what I would say is. Well, you know, from posting from 2010, I would say I post just about every day.

A (27:13)

Okay.

B (27:14)

I might. I'm usually do more than one post if I'm going to post that for, for one day.

A (27:19)

Okay.

B (27:20)

And the things that I would do also differently is this things. Is that in a lot of my videos, I kind of go as hard as I can. Now. It might not to the average eye. I might see like a video and see, okay, this might be going a little bit slower. This might be really going fast.

A (27:38)

Okay.

B (27:38)

This person is. Is moving really fast. So I go as hard and as fast as possible. I really. It's a really push, like a really, really as many karate jump kicks, you know, as high as I can, as fast as I can, you know, with the volume, you know, especially in the punches, too. Just as fast, as hard as possible.

A (27:59)

What do you. What do you think the most punches you've ever thrown in, in 30 seconds with your, with your speed combos?

B (28:07)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I would say I've done video. I've done.

A (28:12)

I've seen the videos where you've done the speed stuff. Like. Yeah. And if we could. If it would be okay if we could post. When you're explaining stuff, if you could send the. Produce some pictures so people can see some of the jumps and stuff, you.

B (28:25)

Know, it is to Harry, right?

A (28:28)

Yeah, to Harry. Yes. Well, when he's. Yeah. Is Harry still working or did he quit when I mentioned his boss? No, Harry's still with. Harry's gonna stay on, so. Yes, it will be Harry, but off. Because I thought I. I thought I read somewhere that you. You shot off 2,000 punches in a minute or some unbelievable number like that.

B (28:47)

Yeah, I. I believe it was like at the top of My head, I think it was like, it was like 300. It was like 323 in like that's impressive. 29 seconds or something like that. Or maybe it was 23 seconds. Yeah. And you know what? When I was in Tang, so do our main instructor, when we would do knuckle push ups, he was very serious about going all the way down and coming all the way up.

A (29:16)

So when you're, when you're doing a knuckle push up. Now when you do a knuckle push up, you keep your, are you, you keep your knuckles within your shoulders. Within. Or you start out like, are you inside?

B (29:26)

Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm kind of. You can start. This is a little trick.

A (29:31)

Yeah. Because you're inside. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

B (29:33)

I am kind of like probably like this. Okay. Yeah. This length.

A (29:39)

And now does this help you get up?

B (29:41)

And I do clap.

A (29:42)

You do the clap? Yeah. I used to do the push and the clap, but I do the diamond. I never did. But when you. Is this preparing you for striking?

B (29:51)

Yeah, it can be. Yeah. Yeah. And what I was going to mention was that, you know, I might even, you might even see in the comments or you. I might, you know, there's comments, but that the, the punches, like, he was very exact, like in, in that, like a punch all the way, you know, all the way. You know what I mean? You got me dodging this as fast as I can, you know what I mean? Am I really, you know, push getting that punch all the way back, back and forth and is it on camera? Is it going to look like I'm really, you know.

A (30:26)

Also I think there's an ill. Because you have, I mean, what do you got, 24, 23 inch pythons there and. Yeah, you got 23, 20, what is that? 22. I'm a 26 guy myself, but it's neither here nor there. But because you have a, your arms are shorter and you have so much muscle. So when you fire, it looks a lot fat. I mean, it's still intense. There's still a lot of dynamite in there, you know, but it's like when I throw a punch, I gotta come way back here. And you know, when it gets there, I don't usually have to throw another one, but it's a long way to get there where you, it's like you're like, right. And you. And the. Oh, that's the one thing. You have tremendous breathing. Does that help you not blow up and get tired? I mean, because you're a big guy and a lot of Guys would throw punches like that and be, you know, and then every time I watch, it's like, you breathe with. Is it. Breathe in, breathe out with each punch.

B (31:23)

It's. You know what? I practice so much actual cardio throughout my life and. And everything that when I. When I. It's more of, like, I just know that I'm breathing properly. Like, I could.

A (31:40)

In the nose, out the mouth. In the nose, out the mouth. Is that the preferred?

B (31:48)

It really depends. I might. I kind of do it with. I might not even notice it sometimes. Like, I might tell myself, you know, but, you know, it's funny that you mentioned breathing and my, My. My whole family, or they're like, even, you know, in the comments to go, I'm just out of breath just watching this.

A (32:07)

Yes, yes. And it sounds like you have a wonderful, supportive family and that. And that's awesome. That's awesome that they. Because not everybody wants, you know, their. Their sons to be an influencer, you know, and, you know, because not everyone does positive things. And the one thing that I will say that is refreshing is that your. Your stuff is always positive and you're always talking about hard work and. And dedication and stuff, and it's inspiring. You're an inspiring guy.

B (32:34)

Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you so much.

A (32:39)

So before I get ready to let you go, I want to now with all this fame, you know, because the ladies love the big guys anyways. Do you get a lot of attention? Do a lot of. You know. Because I don't read comments on my stuff because, you know, for every 10 people that love you, there's always some idiot who says, some angry guy who's mad or whatever. But I would imagine you get a lot of attention from the ladies, showing all these feats of strength and stuff.

B (33:07)

Yeah. Oh, you mean in the comments or in general?

A (33:10)

Like. Oh, in general, people stop you in the street because you're a recognizable guy.

B (33:15)

Yeah, I do. You know, I get comments. I get. I mean, everywhere I go, actually, almost just about everywhere I go, I get, there's, like, somebody that goes, are you that guy?

A (33:29)

Yeah. How does that feel? How cool is that? Cool?

B (33:34)

It's. It's. It's great. It's amazing. You know, it really. Work. Really pays off. You know, I. I work so hard.

A (33:43)

You know, hard work always pays off.

B (33:46)

Always. Yeah, you know, just. Just to be able to. To have people, you know, like. And tell you, you know, that they. That they like what you do and, you know, appreciate it. It's just very cool. Cool. Very good feeling.

A (34:00)

And do you have any messages for, for young people out there who want to get into influencing or, or showing off, whatever, whether. I mean, and it might not be karate and weightlifting and, you know, playing guitar, but do you have any advice for anyone who's getting or, you know, to. That wants to start to build something?

B (34:19)

Yeah, I would say, you know, you know, if. Don't be, don't, you know, tell yourself you're not good enough just because, you know, people are telling you you're young, or it might seem that way, just, just on the outside let you know, really believe in yourself and work hard and you can really, you know, do do good things. You just have to work really hard and, you know, don't listen to anything that tells you, you know, you can't, you know, you know, do good things, you know, and, you know, do you know whether it become, Whether be becoming, whether it's becoming an influencer or writer, you know, and you know, because I, I feel, you know, sometimes when you're young, I'm, I'm 33, you know.

A (35:12)

Oh, you're a baby. You're a baby.

B (35:15)

Yeah. And so, so, you know, even when I was younger, you know, you know, I, he. I was to say, you just have to. Oh, yeah, when I was in tongs, you know, I wanted to mention this. Our main instructor, you know, when I was six years old, I contacted him recently because I was talking to my parents. I go, I remember what, when I was, when I used to cry in class. And I don't remember how long that lasted because it was kind of like a wake up call like this, like, stop crying. Get up.

A (35:52)

Were you crying because you were scared or were you crying because you were unsure of yourself?

B (35:56)

I think it's just because I was so young, I didn't know, you know, anything. I was six years old. I just, I was. I don't have much memory before 6 years old for some reason, but most.

A (36:07)

Of us, yeah, I can't remember. I can't remember last week. So you're winning on me on that one.

B (36:12)

Yeah. And he goes, he goes like this, Joel, it took you. How long did it take me, take me to stop crying in class? He goes, joel, took you to like a few months.

A (36:25)

Wow. A few months. Yeah.

B (36:27)

If you, if you look at like that, if you think, if you think of putting.

A (36:31)

But you stuck with it, though, you know, you stuck with it. You didn't quit.

B (36:36)

Yeah, yeah.

A (36:37)

I mean, you're like, each day you cried a little less, a little less, and then you stop Crying. And then crying turned to laughter, and then laughter turned into like, you couldn't wait to get there. And now you're, you're instructing, like, how cool is that? You went from boohooing to Boston. That's pretty cool.

B (36:57)

Yeah. See, so for the young. For young.

A (36:59)

You know, it might seem hard at first, but if you stick with it, good things come from it.

B (37:04)

Yeah.

A (37:04)

Those are words to live by, my brother. Hey, man, I. And where can people find you if you want to look up and. And check out the awesome world? They and I follow you on Instagram. So what's your. What's your Instagram handle?

B (37:18)

It's a Butterbean Underscore junior You could just type in Butterbean junior Or Joel Saltzman. J O E L S a L T Z M a N. And is.

A (37:28)

That the same on Tick Tock?

B (37:30)

Tick Tock is J O E L underscore Salzman. S a L T Z M a N. Joel Saltzman on TikTok. Yep.

A (37:39)

Okay, and real quick, just a couple of things. Are you a Star Trek guy or a Star wars guy?

B (37:44)

Star Wars.

A (37:45)

Yes. Okay, cool. I'm trying to see if we're going to be best friends here or not. All right, next question. Marvel or dc?

B (37:52)

Marvel, man.

A (37:53)

Okay, we're cooking. We're cooking. All right, if. If you could pull one person from D.C. to Marvel, would it be Batman or Superman?

B (38:06)

See, that's a good question. And the only reason why I answered Marvel is because of Spider Man.

A (38:12)

Spider. My. My son's. Spider Man's my son's favorite. I'm a Venom guy. I like Venom. I like. I'm a Hulk. I like the bad guys. I'm a bad guy. I like the bad guys. I. Okay, who's gonna. Do you have a pick for the Super Bowl?

B (38:27)

You know what? And it's funny. You're not gonna believe this. I don't watch tv.

A (38:34)

I don't believe this. And at the same time, I am so impressed right now. You don't watch tv?

B (38:41)

No.

A (38:44)

Wow.

B (38:45)

Isn't that funny?

A (38:46)

That is hilarious. So I guess all my movie questions, I might as well. I might as gonna ask you about Avatar.

B (38:52)

I do watch movies.

A (38:53)

Okay. Okay.

B (38:54)

Yeah.

A (38:55)

Did you like Avatar?

B (38:57)

What was that?

A (38:57)

Did you see Avatar?

B (38:59)

I haven't seen Avatar, no, but I've seen like clips on like social media or videos that maybe on Instagram.

A (39:08)

You gotta check. I would tell you to check it out if you get a chance. Check it out. What is your favorite all time movie?

B (39:14)

The Matrix. The first One.

A (39:15)

Oh, the first one.

B (39:16)

Cool and reloaded. Yep.

A (39:19)

Okay. Okay. You're a Matrix guy. Okay, cool. So did you play the game? Do you. I guess. I don't know. You don't watch. Do you play video games?

B (39:25)

I did, I did.

A (39:26)

I did.

B (39:26)

On PlayStation.

A (39:27)

Yes.

B (39:28)

Yeah, yeah.

A (39:29)

Remember that one level you just get stuck at and you can't get back? I just got mad. I never played it again because I could not get past that level.

B (39:35)

I know. That was a hard game.

A (39:37)

Like, it was like the dumbest thing too, is like some button.

B (39:41)

Yeah, I know. I. I would play it for hours. I think. I think I. I know what you're talking. I got stuck.

A (39:47)

I was just stuck in that. It was like a thing. Same thing happened to me in Zelda when I was a kid. I didn't know I had to give the bone to the little dog.

B (39:53)

Zelda was hard.

A (39:54)

Yeah. Like some. That was some be. And then finally someone said, oh, you got to give a bone to a little. Little bulldog looking monster at the end of the thing to beat the game. But, you know, I was like. But by that time I had given up. But hey, man, I appreciate you making the time for me today and we'll have to have you back on again soon. Keep doing what you're doing. Congratulations to all your success and keep being you.

B (40:19)

Oh. Oh, thank you so much. I really appreciate it was so good talking to you. It's just so good to meet you.

A (40:25)

I appreciate you, boss. Consider me a friend, man, and keep doing what you're doing.

B (40:29)

Oh, thank you. Absolutely.

A (40:30)

We have to get together sometime and do. If ever in this of our past, we have to do a workout together.

B (40:35)

Absolutely. Yes. Yes. That'd be so cool. Thank you. And I'll text Harry some. Some pictures and videos.

A (40:43)

Yes, yes. Think of Harry like he's an extension of me. You text Harry anytime, any place you need anything, you let Harry know. Harry will get it to me. I don't care. Three, four in the morning, when you get up to train, if you have an idea, you hit Harry and. And Harry will hit you back.

B (40:58)

Oh, cool. Thank you so much.

A (41:00)

You are welcome, man.

B (41:01)

So awesome.

A (41:02)

You have a wonderful day, bro. Appreciate you.

B (41:04)

Thank you.

A (41:05)

All right, Sam.