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Foreign. How are you?
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B
I'm good, Tyrus. How are you, man?
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A
I'm, you know, maintaining head above water. That's all you can really ask for, you know?
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B
That's all you can ask for. Just keep it, keep it in the middle of the road, man. Yes.
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A
Yes, sir. How is my former home state?
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B
It is fine. I'm, I'm looking forward to getting there in the next couple of days. I can't wait. Tash.
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A
Yeah. Mandeville was my town for 10 years.
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B
You lived in the sanctuary, right?
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A
Yep. Well, yeah, Bosha and then over in the sanctuary. But my barbershop was around the corner. I used to be the most popular. I was the favorite customer in my Fresh Market. And I kept trying to persuade them, at least can we get a picture on the wall? You know, can we get some kind of.
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B
Really.
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A
It's a major award with least they can do, you know, but yeah, I missed. I miss that community. Moving was tough, but I go to the.
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B
I go to Fresh Market all the time.
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A
Yep. I, I. So you do the shopping in your house, too? I love it. It's. It's my pastime.
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B
Well, I don't do it as much as I used to because. Because now, you know, if you go in, you got 20 minutes and people want to stop and talk.
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A
Yeah. Yeah.
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B
You know, you can't be rude. You got to stop and talk. And if my wife's in a hurry, she's. She's mad at me.
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A
Yep. Because that rude rule doesn't apply. The wife's. To us.
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B
That's exactly right.
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A
Yes. Yes.
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B
There is no such thing as equality.
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A
No.
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B
Not in that respect.
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A
Not in my household. Like, I, I love that, that I live in a free country, but in my household, I'm second tier. You know, I don't.
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B
Yeah, me and you both, man. In fact, I'm. I'm fourth. Fourth tier. My two dogs rank above me.
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A
Well, you know what? I try not to bring the animals in it in my household, but the. My wife and daughter's two cats and their three horses. Yeah. You know what? I don't think I want to go down that rabbit hole.
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B
Yeah. It's just.
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A
I'm just going to stick with two. I'm two. I got to be two.
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B
Yeah, man. It's kind of rough to think about it is.
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A
It is. Hey, we've got all this, right? Because we can just go. Yeah, we're good. Okay. Yeah. Because who needs an intro?
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B
Yeah.
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A
Really. We get compared. You know what? I'm sure you probably get compared A lot.
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B
I consider that a compliment.
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A
Not just our physical stature, but our. I believe the word is smartassery. We have been accused of making a light. But I would argue, although I would love to put together a greatest hits of your one liners, I think at some point we need to make that happen. How? But you're also. Your humor is to put the exclamation mark on the point you're trying to make. You take very serious issues. You never step away. One of the things I respect about you is you're never afraid to speak how it is. Whether everyone's going to like it or not, you're going to tell her how it is. And that's a rare quality in politics today. How do you continue to do that? I mean, because there's a lot of pressure. I thought you handled when we had that horrible tragedy with that terrorist in the truck and you stood on business and I was very critical. I lived there, support the police like nobody's business when I was in New Orleans. And I was very critical of a lot of. Of. I didn't just like the things. And you, you really spoke for the people and I really appreciate that, sir.
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B
Well, thank you, Tyrus. I mean, I. Look, I consider it a compliment, but I think we are a Mike. We both. We both play outside the pocket.
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A
Yep.
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B
I like your description. Smartassery. I'd rather be engaged in smartassery than jackassery. Or I think. I think we're up there.
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A
Yep. And you got a new book out.
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B
Got a new book out that I'm proud of.
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A
How to test negative for. For stupid. Now that. That, sir, is a major scientific find. If you could get that in a mail kit that comes to your house in a little box and you could just test it and do us all a favor before you walk out the door, you would know like, hey, you know what? I need to figure this out. I've got a whole bunch of stupidity in me right now.
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B
Well, a lot of people in Washington would fail. As you know, in Washington, common sense is illegal.
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A
Yes.
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B
And there are a lot of smart people here, Tyrus, but that doesn't mean that they have common sense.
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A
Well, just. You're not alone. Common sense is also not very popular in entertainment or in the news world on these panels. And that's why once they figure out what common sense is, I won't have a job anymore because.
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B
Yeah, amen, man. There are times in Washington when I feel inadequate because there are a lot of smart people here. But when I feel inadequate and I'm feeling bad. I just look around and you got a lot of high IQ stupid people up here.
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A
Well, what I call is they have intelligence but no life experience. They don't know how to apply it. A lot of times we'll see people when they defund the police and they want to change our prison systems and less sentences and everyone goes free because they've, they've their experience of what criminals are from TV and movies where every criminal is a poet or a lost soul who, who did something to try to save his family. They have unrealistic goals with no life experience. I think that's a big problem because they're the stuff that they, that they've experienced has been. They don't have, they don't have boots on the ground. And when they talk about a lot of the stuff that we see today, that's what I try not to blame them. Like, they just never have been in a situation where they know there's a reason why we have penitentiaries in this country.
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B
Well, you know, if you live in a gated community and you've never been really exposed to the real world, it's very easy to say that cops are a bigger problem than criminals.
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A
Yes.
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B
And that was the genesis of all this defund the police stuff. And in many places, as you well know, Tyrus, they did it.
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A
Yes.
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And duh, you know what happened. I mean, it wasn't hard to figure out. The criminals said, oh, thank you very much, and crime went up.
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A
Yep.
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B
And now the folks are. Even those that don't want to admit they were wrong are trying to get back off that limb and, and we're doing better, but we're not well yet.
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A
No, I think a lot of it had. And when in being in New Orleans, I know at one point that our police numbers were down, like critical level. We were really low. And one of the nice things about living in Louisiana is that we had three. Well, we had the sheriff's department, then we had our police department. And then we had. Because I lived on that wonderful bridge and you know, that 33 mile. We had our own police to force on that bridge. So we kind of had. Yeah, the causeway police. We kind of had that part of the. We, we always, we were very lucky on the other side of the bridge because we had those presences and we had a strong community with neighborhood watches. Like, you know, boys still had to behave when they walked into the Barnes and Nobles because if they act up, the sheriff would be waiting for them when they walk out so, you know, so in a micro, in a bubble, there's a lot of us like, oh, I don't see what the problem is, because, you know, in different parishes, it was kind of up and down. But across the country, when you look at some of the bigger cities, it's still a nightmare.
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B
Yes. And look, I don't. I'm not smart enough to figure out why, but it's just a fact that there are some people in this world who. They hurt other people and they take other people's stuff and you can analyze it and try to explain it, but the bottom line is they do it. And the first goal of government, first purpose for government is to protect people and property. So when people, for whatever reason, hurt other people and take other people's stuff, they have to be punished. And if they do it again, they have to be some cases separated from society. It's been like that since God was a corporal. I mean, it's been like that forever. That's just human nature. And some of my Democratic colleagues, it seems to be mostly Democrats, not all of them, but they just don't get it. I mean, they don't, or they don't want to admit it. They, Many of them still believe that cops are a bigger problem than criminals. And many of them still believe that if a cop has to shoot a criminal, it's automatically, in every case, the cop's fault. But if a criminal shoots a cop, it's the gun's fault.
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A
Yes.
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B
That's not the real world.
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A
No, it's not. And speaking of. And doing a little research, you were in the treasure. You were in the Treasury 17 years.
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B
You were the treasure.
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A
How exciting was that? Because, I mean, because I think when I hear treasurer, I think Oak island, so. But we know that's not what it is. Wishing that you could just go around looking for treasure. But that's a very tedious numbers job. That's a long career. What made you change from. From that to going into. Going into the Senate?
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B
Well, look, I enjoyed being state treasurer.
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A
17 years, I would say. So.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Yeah.
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B
The state treasurer in Louisiana is in charge of investing the state's trust funds and idle cash. Also, I was responsible for managing all state debt and bond issues. So it was an important job. But my job was limited, primarily tires, to financial issues, and I was interested in that, but other things as well. And Washington, look, in the Senate, in the Senate, if you like policy, there's no better place in the world if I get interested in the Chronic Disease Management Program for Medicaid in Florida I can stop and read about it. You know, we deal with foreign affairs, we deal with taxes, domestic affairs, social policy, economic policy. Now it can be frustrating sometimes in the Senate. I don't know. The Senate only works when all senators are not crazy at the same time.
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A
Right.
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B
That's the only way we get things done. But it's never dull, I'll tell you.
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A
That have is there been a big change because one of the things that you still do that I notice a lot of just politicians in general, you always show respect. You get colleagues my esteemed and then you'll get to brass tacks. You don't see that as much. Has that been the, the just the overall just human decency to someone who disagrees with you? Has that, has it always been that way and it's just more out in the open now or was it when you were first coming in, was there more decorum between different sides? Which I hate boxing and tenting but in bubbling. But it seems like it's gotten a lot worse or is it just now we see it more?
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B
Well that's a great question. Look, we both Democrats and Republicans work very hard in the Senate to maintain civility. The House, I can, I've never served in the House and I have many friends in the House, but it's the wild, wild west over there.
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A
Yes, it is.
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B
I mean they, there's some people over there that, that they just, they've gone crazy.
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A
Well not just that. They forgot that they're actually there to do a job. When you ask them how many laws or policies or anything they've done, they look at you like you're crazy. But they're at every, they're on every panel on every network that will have them every sound bite. But when it comes to actually rolling up their sleeves and getting some work done and building something, we're just not, we don't see a lot of that. We see a lot of soundbites. I like the House guys. I don't know.
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B
Not all of them but some of them, they, they, they dog cuss each other and call each other an ignorant slut and file censor.
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A
Oh yeah.
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B
Petitions and it's, we don't, we try not to do that in the Senate. I try not to do that whenever I talk about a president, whether it's President Trump or President Biden, I try almost always say President Biden President.
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A
Yes you did.
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B
And I think it's important to show respect no matter who the president is.
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A
I think that's the biggest thing that we're lacking today when we see from our leadership is. Now, listen, I'm the first one to say, you got something to say. And sometimes people might not like what you have to say, and that's fine. That's where the argument in discord is. But when you start the conversation with I hate you, or, you know, you're a moron, or as you said, ignorant slut, not a whole lot's gonna get done at that point. Everyone's just gonna put up, start digging their fox hills and, you know, and then, of course. And then I'll come into work and they'll be like, look at all these sound bites from last night. Yeah. Did any policy get done? Oh, look what this one called. This one. And that'll be the story. It'll be for a long time. It was the squad versus Taylor. That was the thing every week. Like, who was barking this, that, whatever, and then. And. But we're missing the point of what the meeting was actually about. And I, I think one of the things refreshing about you is that even in all that mist, in, in your cleverness, you will still remind everybody while they're there what our purpose is here for. Then you'll hit them with a. With a playful jab. You know. You know, it's enough. I think the reason why people that. And there's another thing. I don't think I've met anyone who has really had anything bad to say about you across the board. Republican, Democrat, independent. It's always the same thing. He's fair. But watch what you say around him, because he'll get you well.
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B
I don't hate anybody, Paris. I really don't. When I say my prayers, I ask, God, don't let me hate because it's hard. In Washington, the deck is. If you're conservative, the deck is stacked against you. But, But I really do. I, I. That's one of the things I pray for. Now, that doesn't mean that you, you, you. You shouldn't stand your ground. You should articulate clearly and succinctly in plain English where you stand on issues. You shouldn't run from them. You ought to hit them head on. But you don't have to be ugly doing it now, I'm. You know, sometimes I achieve that balance. Sometimes I don't. Don't. There are times that I probably. There are things I'd take back, I wish I hadn't said, but I really. I try not to. And that's just work for me. I can't. I know every one of my fellow senators. Really? Well, I like all of them. Some of them I like better than others, but I respect all of them, I can tell you that.
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A
And again, another thing, I just get impressed one of the very few politicians say, hey, that's above my pay grade. Or, hey, you know what? I don't understand that. Or like you just said, you know what? I wish I could have took that back. Or, you know what? Maybe I was wrong on this or that one. That, to me, shows more leadership than always being right. Absolutism is just camouflage for being a moron, you know, because you just know everything.
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B
Good point.
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A
You know, but. But we just not. We're not seeing. We don't see that across the board. Because of this, I have to be right. We didn't used to be a I'm right, you're wrong country. We're like, we disagree, but we all show up for the same barbecues and our communities, you know, everyone come outside and I really, that's kind of been my mission to get back to pushing that is like, listen, it's not. You see someone, they're like, well, they voted Democratic. That doesn't make them a bad person. That just means they believe in different things than you do.
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B
And, you know, that's another great point, because sometimes when I do an interview, I'll mention, I'll say something like, my Democratic friends disagree with me. And I always get posts on social media and text messages saying, you know, don't call them friends. You know, they're not friends. They're the enemy. No, they're not. You know, I don't know a single senator, Democrat or Republican, who doesn't want what's best for America. We disagree sometimes on how to achieve that.
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A
Yeah.
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And that's fair. But I don't really know a single senator that I think hates America. There are some supporters of various senators that I think hate America. And I think there are people in our country today that, that express contempt for America when they should express gratitude. And, but, you know, under, under freedom of speech, they're entitled to do that, but I'm entitled to respond to them.
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Yes, you are, and you do that in kind. That's one of my favorite things is I know we're going to get a little truth and we're definitely going to call somebody out on something. But you, like I said, you do it in a way that I would have no problem. To my kids, this is how you debate. Watch Mr. Ken. See that? You hit him with a compliment, you get them some Facts. And then if it gets a little wild, hey, don't get it twisted. I want the pretty face. Boy, I'm a tooth chipper. I can throw them with the best of them. And I always appreciate about you because whenever you show up, you look like you're there to do the job. I never feel like you're out for yourself.
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B
Well, thank you, Tyrus. The other thing you've noticed, I'm sure in Washington, I've talked about this in my book, there's an effort by some up here to muddy the water, to make it look deep. In other words, they want to present issues as being more complicated than they are.
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A
Yes.
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I'm not saying that many of the issues than we deal with are not extremely complicated, but there's an effort not to explain them clearly, the pros and the cons, to people when they. I know they're smart enough to do that because they really. They don't necessarily want the American people to understand. American people are plenty smart. They may not read Aristotle every day because they're busy earning a living, but if you explain this stuff to them in plain English, don't speak in Sanskrit, just plain English, they'll get it. They'll figure it out. But a lot of people in Washington don't want to do that.
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A
No. Because here's the thing that I've always said, the American people, we, as one of them, we can handle bad news, we can handle good news. What we can't handle is you selling us a bill of goods, peeing on our back, telling us it's raining. You know, trying or taking things a really long way to go to one place. We saw that with a lot of the, with the Green New Deal and global warming. And we saw that. Well, if we don't. I think we had, I think 12 years ago, we had 10 years before we were gone.
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B
Yep.
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We had, you know, the polar bear was out of here, he was gone. Now it's more than ever, you know, but you. It's that. I always call it that much to do about nothing. I'm just focused on getting reelected. And that has become, I think, the big. I mean, we have people running for president right now.
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B
Yep. I can think of 20 people in the Senate that are running for president. They're not announced, but they're running.
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A
Yeah. Oh, yeah. And then just doing interviews and this. That I'm like, you know, that's three. I don't know what I'm doing next week.
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B
Well, I hope you're doing the show.
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A
Yeah. Well, you Know what? And as you know this as a man with a tremendous sense of humor, not everybody always gets the joke. And I always say, I always tell Greg on the Gutfeld show, you know, I'm one joke away. All it takes is one joke and that's it. But I do, you know because I say this often and I'm not just because I've lived in the, in the state that so I can. I think I am, I am allowed to be critical one way or the other of you but I always was impressed with your honesty. It was, it was like, it was like your mutant power. He just tells you I don't have an answer right now guys. But I'm going to figure it out. I can go to bed with that. Yeah, he doesn't know but Senator Kennedy is going to figure it out. Opposed to. Well, we, we just. You don't understand the world as we know it. And this is going to be this and it's all this blue and I'm like so you, you know, you don't know. Are we voting on this? What are we doing? Where do you stand on this? That is one of the things that I was very always impressed with is that I never ever. Even though you could talk slick to an oil can you. I was never confused by your message and I think that's one of the reasons why I want to talk because I don't really like talking to a lot because people will come on and just start talking about their getting reelected or pushing whatever their stuff. And I wanted to talk about your books. I thought it was an amazing title. My. I think we haven't got a copy got a copy coming that usually takes me about three days to knock it out. I had, I said my book just came out you know and I thought my. I ought to say my time what what it is America. And you know and then I was looking, I said oh that's a great title. I was like wait a minute. How to test negative for. Oh, okay. Well, you won the day sir. You won the day. That was I just a title like that. You got to read it now does the is obviously it tells your story a little bit and it just talks about your. Your day to day activities or how you came to be or just where your mindset's at. Like what is a. Like I said we're still building this in the ground up. I was supposed to get the book this weekend but Amazon with Christmas apparently told me I'm not going to get it. Always the day after it'll Be here tomorrow because you've had a very interesting life.
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B
It's really the book Tyrus. It's not a policy book per se. It's more of a storybook. I use stories to make my points about policy. And some of the stories are bizarre. Some of them will make you laugh, but all of them are true. I tell stories about President Trump, about President Biden, about members of the Senate. I tell stories by meeting with President Xi in China. In doing so, I'm trying to make people understand, help people understand, number one, what it's really like from the inside in Washington. I'm trying to help them understand why Washington is as it is. In Washington, normal is a setting on the clothes dryer and in washing. But I'm also trying to help people understand it doesn't have to be this way. We would just use a little bit of common sense. And so I hope the book will make people think, hope it'll make them, in some cases, laugh. It may upset you so much, you'll want a day drink. But it's all true. And the American people, they deserve to see it from the inside.
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A
I think President Trump is famous for his transparency, and I would argue you were right up there with him. What you see is what you get.
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B
President Trump is the same way privately, as, you know, Tyrus, as he is publicly. I mean, he exists loudly. He's authentic. I told him one time, I said, Mr. President, you grow anxious when you have an unexpressed thought. And he said, what do you mean? I said, well, you know, you don't have to say everything you're thinking. And he said, I know, I don't. And he said, and I don't do it. I said, well, you do sometimes, but that's just the way he is. And I think American people appreciate that.
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A
Well, clearly they do, because that's how most of us are. And also, when you can talk freely to other people in leadership roles and tell them exactly how you think, they know where you stand. And that's how relationships are built. You know, like when you can walk up to the president, tell him, is that what you're thinking? And not going into go first. Which. Which side of his butt do I kiss first? What do I thank him for? What? Cause some days you're gonna be like, Mr. President, I wholeheartedly disagree with. With this line of thought here is my position not, oh, well, I don't want to upset the boss, you know, And. And. And I think that he respects that more than someone who's, oh, yes, sir, Absolutely, sir. And we got a lot of that. We got a lot of that on both side, you know, just a lot. And we see a lot of it in the media where they. Their side is that speaks gospel. Doesn't matter what their 90, 80, 20 issue, doesn't matter if it comes out of their side's mouth. It is the truth as we know it. And their goal on Earth is to call the other side liar or whatever. That. That is one thing I refuse to do. There's a lot of things that I agreed with President, and when I didn't like something, I spoke on it. And turns out he's fine with that, just like you would be or anyone else would be.
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B
That's right. Well, he. The president. You know him well, Tyrus. He's very smart. He has a lot of life experience. He has no filter. He exists loudly. But the American people knew all that. And that's why the people who voted for him voted for him, in my opinion.
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A
Let me throw this out there at you, because as you're describing him, I could make that argument that you're also describing yourself.
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B
Well, I'm not in his league.
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A
But that's because right now you're specializing and you're focused on Louisiana. You're not touring the country while you're doing some book stuff, but you're getting your behind right back to get work done. And you're always working. But is there a scenario. Would you ever consider running for a higher office, given the fact that you see that people crave transparency, honesty, straight talk. Of course, yours is done more of a Southern, gentlemanly way, but it's still the same message. And one of the things that I think the Republican Party, as you look down, Trump's going to be done. I know the third term is real exciting and all that stuff, but if he gets a third term, I've been promised I'll get to be a nobleman. He's gonna give me Massachusetts. We're gonna turn that place around. But if that I'm assuming. And when that doesn't happen, the Republican Party's gonna. I think, is gonna have a real void in terms of people are gonna be. If they're not. You're not gonna get another President Trump. But I think his style is what the American people like and appreciate. And when they're gonna look for someone to keep that party going. You can't go from someone who literally is a 247 open book, tells you like it is. And then we're gonna go back to the old way or Maybe they won't have that charisma. Cause I think charisma has a lot to do with it. I think the reason. So I guess my long, ridiculously winding question is to you, is there any time that you would possibly consider it, given we've already established three years is too long. But to even talk about. But if called upon, would you consider it all?
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B
That's not likely to happen. Times we're going to look President Trump. Anybody who runs for president after President Trump would make a mistake trying to be like President Trump. Everybody ought to be themselves.
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A
Well, yeah, you're this, you're this. You're different. You're a different loaf of bread, but you're still bread.
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B
And, and the American people can smell a phony a mile away. But, but one of the reasons, I think President Trump has changed things dramatically in another way, but in two in particular. Number one, he is, he is so candid. People have come to expect that from a president.
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A
Right.
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B
Number. Number two, he's the most transparent president we've ever had. The press can never say that they don't have access to him.
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A
No.
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B
I met President Biden one time when he was president, and I was not alone. I mean, he just didn't interact with people. If I called President Trump today, and I know it's the case with you, too, if he could take the call, he'd take the call. If I needed to come see him, he'd say, come on over. If he couldn't take the call, he'd call me back within, I don't know, eight or ten hours. Now, he might call me at 2 o' clock in the morning because the guy never sleeps.
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A
Yeah, I know, brother. Take a nap, please. You're killing me. Take a nap.
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B
But those two, I mean, that's very refreshing for a president. And whether you like President Trump or don't like him, you gotta give him credit for that.
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A
He shows up for the job. Let me ask you. No one, really. Now, I was on TV for a long time saying that my eyes don't deceive me when I'm seeing with President Biden. And I would always say, I always thought his family was not looking out for his best interest. He was. We don't have to get into specifics of it, and I'm not in here to talk about controversies and, and, and all kinds of stuff. Was it frustrating as a senator, not being able to have that kind of access just for a meeting or something important? Was it, was it very frustrating during the Biden administration because it seemed like. And it wasn't just nobody could ever get. And how did you deal with that?
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B
Well, it was frustrating, tyrison, and I was one of the fortunate ones. I got one meeting with President Biden that actually lasted more than five minutes. We actually visited for, I don't know, 30 or 45 minutes. I talked about it in my book, but that was rare. I mean, I know senators that never once even talked by telephone with President Biden over four years now. That was his style. You know, everybody has their own way of doing it. But I'm telling you, if you're president and you're not willing to interact with senators and Congress people, then you're not going to get much done.
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A
Yeah.
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B
How are you going to hurt you.
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A
How are you going to get someone to walk across the aisle when you won't even open the door?
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B
That's right. And there are instances where I was fine talking to his staff on something that wasn't terribly important. But there are times that a senator needs to talk to the president, and we understand how busy a president is and that you can't just walk over there and knock on his door. But President Trump and President Biden are just so different in that respect. And I think it's one of President Trump's strengths. The other advantage with President Trump, you don't get double talk. The Biden administration would give you all kind of double talk, man, they could talk. They could talk the ears off a jackrabbit and not say anything. But with President Trump and with his people, man, they don't fool around. They tell you, look, here's what I think, here's what I like, here's what I don't like. Here's what I agree with. Here's what I don't agree with. And I appreciate that.
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A
Yeah, I appreciate that, too. And I also appreciate I could do this with you all day. Apparently, you have a busy schedule, sir. And let's see a little gentleman hiding behind you. You do the. Watch it. I see you with it. I like his tie, though. I like that orange tie. His game.
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B
Yeah, he's a. He's a fashion plate.
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A
Yeah, I got. I got a bunch of fashion plates.
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B
He's a fashion play.
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A
I'm surrounded by young kids with dreams of being stars on tv. Not on my watch.
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B
Justin, you tell tell gut feel. Are you getting any work out of gut feel or does he just kind of. Greg just kind of loaf around? He's got in first gear.
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A
He's got.
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B
Ever been out of first gear? In his life.
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A
No. Well, second gear is too tall, so.
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B
Yes. You have a merry Christmas, man.
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A
You, too. And this has been a pleasure. And, sir, please, can we do this again? Because I just.
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B
I'd like to.
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A
I would like to do lunch or something sometime. Man, you. Thank you for my time in the state. It was very pleasant and I miss it terribly.
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B
Man, you're a rock star. Come back and visit us, Tyrus.
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A
Yes, sir. Always.
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B
We miss you.
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A
I miss my pelicans. All right, Sam.