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If the American people are paying for it, we should be able to get a receipt.
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And the disclosure is real. And the problem we're having right now is the deep state is blocking a lot of this. I'm in a secure hearing and a little punk with a man bun tells me that the president's on a need to know basis. Now, what world am I living in?
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I don't need the shows and the arguments, just the facts and tell the truth. Because if there's nothing there and you show me there's nothing there, I'm good with it. Well, you know, thank you so much for joining us today, Congressman Burchett.
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B
It's Tim.
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A
Tim. All right. Tim works well. Mama raised me the manners first, so. But. All right, Tim, I appreciate that. Now, you took office. You took office in Congress in January of 2019. Before that, you, my good buddy Glenn Jacobs. You were his predecessor.
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B
Yeah, he's. He's an excellent county mayor. And I was. I love it when people come from the private sector into politics because it, it shows. We do. It shows really diversity. But also it shows the fact that it's. You don't have to be brought up through the system, the good old boy network, to come in and, and, and do things. He's been great.
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A
And he didn't have to do great to the veterans. Yep. And trade schools, you know.
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B
Yeah.
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On the front line of all that stuff. And really, he's really a great man. And again, he's in a great state. One of my favorite places to perform when I was in the wwe. Always good. The barbecue is different everywhere, but you guys kind of. You kind of pull it all together. Like if you. There's Texas barbecue, there's Alabama, Louisiana, and then Tennessee just kind of.
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B
Yep. You know, Georgia, there's North Carolina, there's Carolina barbecue.
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A
Yep. There's good stuff everywhere. Now, I have been. I have one of the things. And you. You handle a lot of. A lot of stuff. And you know, one of the things, you're on the House Foreign Affairs Committee and the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee. You wear a lot of hats. You're the chairman, in fact, of the Oversight Committee.
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B
Chairman of doge. Of the Oversight Committee. Yeah.
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And that I think you guys, in such a short amount of time have really put the amount of ridiculous spending and let's just call it what it is, fraud on the forefront. And I don't want to have a boring podcast to talk about all the ins and outs of dealing with all that stuff. But one of the things that I'm very interested in talking to you about is. And I don't like to use the word upa. I'm old school ufo, but ufo.
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B
Hey, also I make skateboards.
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A
Oh, okay. Jack of all trades, master of some. All right.
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B
Yeah.
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And one of the, one of the biggest things that I hear pushbacks, I hear about discussing UFOs and, and is that it's a national security risk. But I feel like fraud is more of a national security risk than understanding that there is probably life out there. Now I 1000% believe. And my stuff is my belief has come as I was a history major for a little while in college and I just happened to notice in all the different continents that had no text phones and no emails or anything of that matter. A lot of the pyramids and stuff were to the level that we have not yet duplicated at this time. And I think there was enough of those things out there to say, hey, that's not a tough thing to think that we were visited at some point or combined or whatever. You want to deal with it. And you know, a lot of people push the religious aspect of things, but even to think that God would just make one beautiful place to me is silly. You know, and it's a vast universe with all this beautiful, bright and so I don't think the American people, I think the sensationalism of it, the movies, the sci fi movies and stuff, have kind of maybe pushed it that way, but I think the American people can handle it. And I think everyone kind of kind of thinks they're there. I think we're just waiting for more. Like I think everyone's waiting for the first actual confirmed video, you know, of an alien opposed to. Because we've seen enough UFOs to the point where they're not even shy about it anymore.
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B
Yeah, 100%. You touched on a lot. The national security aspect is what they always wrap it up in, right. They say we can't. And some of that is legitimate. Some of it has to do with our sonar and radar capabilities. Maybe we don't want the Chinese, the Russians or whoever to know that we have. But that's pretty ridiculous since we buy a lot of our components from China for this stuff they got. You know, that was with a former head of the CIA and he told me, he said, tim, they know how many paperclips you use in the long Worth building. And I'm in Longworth building. And I thought, I wonder how he knew I was in the long word building. And I thought, well, he's CIA. I guess he knows everything. But the reality is when I proposed the, the an amendment to the NDA, the National Defense Authorization act to disclose all of this, it was a two page, basically a two. Which is unheard of, very short to the point. And then Chuck Schumer did one which everybody embraced and it was over 60 pages. And, and that gum thing, it mimicked the, the Kennedy assassination files release. And here we are over 60 years and we still, they still won't release anything. You know, we had a committee meeting a few. Couple of months back and it disclosed a lot of news information. Nobody even covered it. 60 years, a lot of time. Nobody. Lee Harvey Oswald, you know, that's all they know. Three incredible shots, whatever. But, but, and then we all know that's, that's not right. No, but the, if you fired a gun before, you know that's not right. The. But back to the UFO issue. And then Schumer made some, you know, plea and he was, he was in charge of the Senate then if he's not now, you know, and he, and he didn't get his bill out and he sort of made. But it was a joke. I thought it was a Trojan horse the whole time.
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Yeah, well, typically is, you know, and you know, you, you hit something that really kind of stuck with me where you were, you were talking about how nobody really paid much of atten attention to it. Right. The Kennedy stuff. And I think that's because of what I, I would describe as a broken culture in Congress and, and not just Congress, but across the board where everyone seems to be compromised, performative, disconnected from any sense of common sense. You know, we have arguments on, on things that are just beneath us, like what is a woman. You know, like all these ridiculous things that have just. People they turn on the TV and they see that this is what the people are arguing and fighting over and it just takes all the credibility and respect away. I think that's why the, when you poll the numbers are, are so low for what they think of senators and congressmen. And again, it's because, and I don't feel like if they came forward with one thing with actual facts and true stats and, or pictures or videos or whatever, or just coming out and saying we can confirm that there's this and this, I don't think there would be a huge uproar because especially since the pandemic, the crying wolf has been more, you can bank more on them saying stuff that's completely off the grid, furthest thing from the truth. Insulting the American people's intelligence. And so it's just very hard to believe anything that comes out of, especially with the media's pushing it. Guys like Chuck Schumer who will tell you that, you know, I think the worst thing I ever heard in my life is a black man was being told that getting an ID is racist. And I think that was one of the most, like, just absolutely slap in the face to any person walked this, who's walked our. Our planet, who has gone through real racism, whether they're black, brown, white, whatever. Because racism is. That's another thing too. Racism is. Everyone's included. We have racists on, on in every, every shade. But to hear things like that, you just. I think America's just lost confidence in anything that comes out of the halls. And I think that's a real disservice.
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B
Yeah, I can't agree with you more. You know, we. We experience it everywhere. But the. I think the trick is too, is to keep us fighting. And that's how these people. You wonder how these people stay in power. Well, 12% of the population goes and votes evangelical Christians. 30, 40% of them won't vote. 30% of gun owners won't vote. And I'm. I'm represented in both those groups, obviously. And I think if you look over overseas a lot and you see how do these young people, they just keep killing themselves or getting killed, blowing themselves up. And you have the same old corrupt politicians that are running these countries. And, you know, if black folks and white folks are fighting and Jews and Christians are fighting, it just keeps them in power. And I think, I think, I hate to say it, but that's a little bit by design. And, you know, they ring the bell and we come running and it's the. The dog whistle type situation. And. And you see that in this issue because when I first started, when I first came out of it, I. With it, I was. I always tell people, I didn't look for this issue. It found me. I was standing on a Corner in Washington, D.C. sounds like an eagle song. But I was in the, as I like to say, the center of all media. TMZ interviewed me. It was a fella had a camera and he said, hey, Congressman, what do you think about this new report that's coming out? And I said, it's supposed to be at the end of the week and it is hot. And I said, it's on UFOs. I said, well, it won't come out this week. And when it comes out, it's gonna look like somebody shot it. With a dadgum 12 gauge because everything will be redacted from it. And sure enough, it didn't come out that week and it was weeks later and it was just a very light fluff piece. And what had happened is always some well intentioned bureaucrat puts this report out, does a lot of work and it, and it had some pretty extensive stuff in it. Acknowledging basically we're not alone and acknowledging also we don't know what exactly these things are in some instances and, and some higher up, for whatever reason pulled it back and then they, they issued that report and they try to stigmatize folks like myself and you. You know, when I come on some of these news stations, they'll play the theme from X Files in the back. Yeah, but they, they don't do that anymore though. They don't do that anymore because I was. The public is aware that there's a cover up. And you're right, I was. Had a meeting at the Pentagon this week on the issue of a very high level meeting. I'm not at liberty to say who is there and what was. But it was. I was there over two hours if that tells you anything. And the disclosure is real. And the problem we're having right now is the deep state is blocking a lot of this. You think? I mean, you know, I'm in a, I'm in a secure hearing and a little punk with a man bun tells me that the President's on a need to know basis. Now what world am I living in? The pres. Ever an unelected bureaucrat, what do you got? You got power, you got control, you got arrogance. And really those are the things that run Washington D.C. you throw in a
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little corruption and you know, it's. You have been the loudest voice in Congress on UFOs and the phenomenon with them. And that's gotta be. But again, you strike me as a man who calls it like he sees it. And you didn't ask what's on the menu, but you're gonna try to make it work and be as honest as you can. And what made you decide that this was worth spending political capital on? Even in some cases, your reputation?
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Yeah, because I ultimately like Mayor Glenn Jacobs. I'm a fiscal conservative.
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A
Yes.
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I want to know what we're spending tens of millions, possibly billions of dollars on if they say they don't exist. Yeah. I've been briefed by people in some of these Alphabet agencies and you can use your imagination. Which ones. I've been to multiple secure briefings and I'll have somebody within one department tell me they don't exist, have zero knowledge, and ultimately I think they're telling the truth because it's a very compartmentalized group. And then I'll have somebody else in the very same Alphabet agency bring in videos and sworn testimony of, I'll just say extraterrestrial.
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A
Well, someone's flying a little orbs now. I've kind of jumped all over this because I think if the American people are paying for it, we should be able to get a receipt across the board especially. And I think if we had more receipts on everything, it wouldn't be so hard for a lot of these fraudulent people and these corrupt politicians to get away with this stuff. But again, I think a lot of that's by design.
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B
And remember the United States Marine Corps, my dad's outfit is the only outfit that is ever that has passed an audit in the last 20 years. We give them more money than they ask for it. You just, they're doing something with it. I know there's some corruption involved, I think.
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A
Well, it's, it's a lot of multi millionaires on a very, it's a good salary, but it's not a millionaire salary.
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B
Now in Congress these guys are, you know, making 150 to 6, some of them making 1,600% return on their investment. I always say you need to leave the streets of Washington and head to Wall street if you got that kind of knowledge. I mean they beat the hedge fund guys.
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A
Yeah, that's really hard to do. I'll just, I'll say it like that, you know, and I've had a lot of different experts on, I've had people from across the board. And the one thing I have noticed is that, and I've talked to pilots who have flown and have had to deal with the orbs and the extra Trust, the UFOs. And I've dealt with scientists and former high classified FBI guys who have all, are all coming with it. And they all seem to share the same kind of attitude, resolve. And the same thing is that these things are there and they've been around for a long time. And for some reason they get discredited or disgraced to the point where they can't go back to their own field anymore.
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B
And it's just 100%. 100%. Can I address that? Yeah, I've literally been briefed by these. Aren't we always show these pilots on television? You know, they're like cowboys or something. They're, they don't look like they don't look like you, brother. They look like people kind of like me. They kind of look geeky because they're mathematical wizards. I mean they're doing calculations. They're landing a half billion dollar apparatus on a bucking aircraft carrier in the middle of the ocean. My goodness, they're, they're not, they're not cowboys. And I've had them literally tell me in some of the older planes when. In a certain area when they were filming UFOs. I don't like UAPs either. I think that's a distraction. Yeah, UFOs. And that the guy said he would hit the thing with his knee and destroy the tape or to make sure that the tape it wasn't recording. Because every time, even if they brought back proof, they would get. They call it debriefing. It was an eight hour interrogation. And then they get this put on there. They have psych evaluations because of it. And they would get, they could get pulled from the flight line. And that's just wrong, man. That's a stigmatizing of anybody. And also it's a, it's, it's a cover up of what the heck's going on. And government does not have the right to decide what I can and cannot handle.
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A
You know, and that's the thing. Because the only thing I know that I. We could all handle bad news, we can handle good news is what we can't handle is, is. Is. And this is an old saying that my grandmother used to say, don't piss down our back and tell us it's rain.
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B
Yeah. You know, well, I'm, I attempt to be a Christian and like my buddy Glenn Jacobs, we're, we're both, I guess we're all sinners. But you know, I read the Bible and they throw this at me all the time. Don't you think it's going to disrupt your religious. You know, I had that and I said, no, it proves that God is. We always try to put God in this little box of. I mean, you know, he. Genesis chapter one. He created the heavens and the earth. There is. We are one. I mean look up at night. The light from those stars left there before the time of Christ. Some of those stars don't even exist anymore. That's a little hard for. That we're seeing. That's a little hard for me and my pea brain to understand. And in, let's see, Ezekiel chapter one, he saw the wheel. There's something in the air. He sees. And at that time the wheel was the most technologically advanced item that they had, and that's all he could compare it to. I mean, dad gum. There's something going on and I'm glad we're putting the pressure on it. And finally, you know, President Trump, I talked to him. It was 14 minutes on the morning of the State of the Union. I called him. I was just going to leave him a message. I didn't think he'd answer the phone. It was a little bit after five in the morning. Guy never sleeps.
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No.
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And he answered, he says, and the first thing out of his mouth was, tim, I love Tennessee. And I said, yes, sir, Mr. President, I love you. But I told him, I said, I. I want you. I hope you'll, you'll, you'll release this stuff. And he gave me his word he would. And, you know, he's done it. Three different groups of, of photos and videos and, and there's more out there. We're just running into a lot of obstacles from people in the deep state or blocking people like Stephen Miller and others from accessing this. And it's just a, is a diversion. And here's another thing of America, and I'm guilty of this as well. I always say, we want our pizzas in 30 minutes or less. And that's about our dadgum attention span.
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Yeah. And social media kind of helps with that. You scroll, scroll and, and you want it now. Now. And I, even with my, my kids, I try to explain to them when they see something on TV and they, oh, Daddy, I want that. And I was like, you know, when I was your age, we had these action figures called G.I. joe and, and I had to do Kung Fu Grab. Yes. And I used to have to get my allowance and my, and my mother wasn't paying a great wage at the time. It was five bucks a week. And the average, my allowance, the average figure was like $4. And I'll never forget $4 and 89 cents after tax. So there's not a lot of, there's not a lot of room there. But Sergeant Slaughter came out with an action, a special action figure. He came with a tank, and it was Sergeant Slaughter. And you couldn't get him in stores. You had to mail away for him. So you had to get four, no, three proofs of purchase from other GI Joe action figures. So that was going to put me back three weeks to get those proofs of purchase. Then I had to fill out all my information, return information, get a stamp, and then put. For posting and handling postage and handling. It was $3, 85 cents and send it away. And then in six to eight weeks I would then get my Sergeant Slaughter action figure. Now I checked that mailbox for the first two weeks every day I came home from school. And then eventually, because you get busy and you're young and playing with your friends, just when I forgot about him, he showed up at my doorstep. And if I did that to my children today and said that yep, you can get that action figure and if you do these things, you'll see it in six to eight weeks. Somebody might call social services on me.
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B
Yeah, well I, we had that when I'm 61. We had bazooka bubblegum and they always had this cool stuff, get your spy camera or whatever and right, send in, send in. And you had to send, I can't remember how many rappers you had to send in. And it was, it was a three to six weeks kind of scenario. And it literally, a lot of times it would take six months, six months to get that.
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Yeah.
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And you know, and by then it was, I'm with the iq, I'm, I'm in that like that little kid in the Christmas story going to the mailbox every day checking to get my, my decoder ring. But that gum, it never got there. And you're right. Today, children, kids, I've got a 19 year old daughter. I mean it's instantaneous, dude.
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Yeah.
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And if you want it, you know, I make skateboards and I, I got to get my Titebond 3 glue and I can order it a lot cheaper and I can get it the next day, which is just crazy to me. I can order it and they'll be, it'll be on my, at the gate of our farm out here the next day. And sometimes I can get it by the end of the workday.
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And that's one of the, I mean again, that's one of the great things of capitalism and the American experiment. And you know, I'm excited we're celebrating our 250. It's crazy that it's only 250 years that this great country has become the world biggest world power in such a short.
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B
I want to quote something you said, I heard you say the other day and I never heard this before. You said that America has the ability to, to reset.
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A
Yes. Self.
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Correct. That is, I mean maybe it's, I think God has a hand in that. I mean we screw up, we're, you know, we've got slaves and then we. That same flag that a communist running for Congress and what in New York City says they wipe their hands on as a napkin is the same flag, 48 star flag that my uncle died under. It's the same flag that men and women died under the free slaves. You know, it's a, it's, it's, it. To me, it's a, it's an incredible. I was so glad to hear you say that because I, I get very disgusted and discouraged in Washington when I see things. I just think, you know, what a missed opportunity we just had to do the right thing. But then we somehow we, we're still here.
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A
We find a way.
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B
Still here.
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We find a way. Common sense usually prevails. And you know, because you chair the Dodge Dodge subcommittee and you know every, we all hear everybody on TV when they're running for office that you know, they want to cut waste, but nobody ever wants to cut their own stuff, you know, and, and so it's really hard to know how much actual real support you have in being in charge of this committee because there are so many people that will just go on TV and say anything. We know that for a fact. We hear it every day. They call it word salads, but I hate, I feel it's an insult, salt to salads. But you know, when you're, you're taking on the undertaking of some really, some, some real stuff here that can expose a lot of the ugly side of, of politics and politicians in this country and you don't seem to be phased by it at all. You don't seem to be wavered or, you know, you, you don't miss. You're definitely not a man who minces for words, I'll tell you that much. You're not afraid to tell what's on your mind. And that can be not the most successful path to re election in some cases, you know where. And I always say you, you should take the job for what you have not to keep it going, you know, and that's, and that's something I think that you and but what happens is what people don't realize is when you do what you say you're going to do and you follow through and you use things like integrity, faith, accountability. Those are better than any billboard for reelection. I, especially in this day and age. And I think you implement.
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B
My dad, my dad had said, told me one time, I said, you know what I do at night, buddy? And I said, what's that, dad? He said, I sleep. Because he didn't worry about what he did. He didn't have to second guess. He's an old World War II Marine Dean of Student Conduct at University of Tennessee for 40 years. I guess he taught me a lot of things. But that's. I appreciate you saying that. But you know, my biggest problem unfortunately in the Doge Committee a lot of the times is with people in my own party. You're right. That we got Elon Musk. Musk explained it to me. He sitting across the table from me at a meeting and he said, Tim, he said these NGOs, non government organizations, he said, let me explain to you how they work. Because I didn't know and I was.
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Most of us didn't.
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No. And they, they, you know, you've got an organization maybe started under George Bush, senior or junior, I don't know. You got all these limousine liberals wanting to take care of the world and we need to, we have to take care of our own people. And then they start this thing. Maybe they want to feed the starving children in the Middle east or something. It's a worthy cause, I guess. And then it has a little money in it, not a lot. And a billionaire will drop them and we all know who they are. They'll drop a million dollars in one of these organizations. And So a Washington D.C. unelected bureaucrat with Congress has little or no knowledge of what they're doing, will literally put a billion dollars in the millions of dollars. Billions of dollars. Matter of fact, Elon said they're probably stealing over a trillion. Then it goes overseas, allegedly. And then you find out that the money flows back because of who's running it. Flows back to a. In the form of dark money, which you and I both know. But to educate folks. It's campaigns. Those last, those campaign ads you see at the very end it says, you know, paid for. Why did Tim Burchett push his second grade girlfriend in the mud?
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A
Yeah.
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B
You know, and then paid for by People for America First. And then America first goes away at the end of the campaign. You can't find it. It's just a vapor. It's a corporate trail. But it goes right back to the NGOs. And then you see which Elon told me that he thinks it's true. And I have no reason to doubt it. You have members of Congress probably literally just profiting straight out. You know, they got their wife and or their girlfriend working. You know, you got them multi million dollar or a billion dollars in some account. Paying somebody a couple hundred thousand dollars for a no show job is pretty easy.
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Yeah.
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And yet. And then when I here I have for two years, tyres two years. I've been trying to defund the Taliban. We send them $40 million a week and we know the paper trail. I've got the.
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Could you imagine what that $40 million a week could do for veterans?
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B
Do you imagine what? Yeah, I mean, school systems, school system, feeding hungry folks, taking care of veterans 100%. And I can't even get the Senate. I could. It took me two years to get it in the committee and to get it out of the committee in the Senate and I'm in the House and now finally it's up there and it's just sitting on Thune's desk, but nobody wants to address it. The reporter even asked him about it and he said, I got no knowledge of it. You know, And I, and I confronted him not as a jerk, but when the King of England was. He was walking. Phone was walking down the aisle. I said, hey, we got that bill sitting over. We should do something with it. And he looked at me like, you know, I was an idiot, which I'm sure I am. But, but that, that, but that's the tip of the iceberg. People. Like, I can't believe that, man. That is the freaking tip of the iceberg of what's going on. And we're not paying attention. Trump's right. These. You know, everybody gets worried about tariffs and everything, but we didn't pay an income tax in this dad gum country till about 1917. And we, we survived somehow then. And yet it was paid for by all the other outside interests that want to play ball in this country. And Congress as they were, as they are now, they were then in bed with foreign national lobbyists who maybe, maybe they know or maybe they don't know they're being hired by foreign. At China, for instance.
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Exactly.
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You know, they, they're, they're. I'm on foreign affairs committee. They came to see me a couple weeks ago, their ambassador and their people. And they couldn't have been nicer. And they knew they'd already done their research on me. They even knew. This is crazy. It's having to do with this. But anything else they even knew I'm interested in. I'm environmentally concerned. I live on a little farm here. We don't put any chemicals. Fought TVA when they tried to spray under my. They did before I bought it. Sprayed under my power lines to kill the. And I told them, I said, I don't want my grandbabies born with web feet. But they knew that I was interested in reclaiming deserts and. Cause I follow it on my. On. I Watch a lot of YouTube videos on it because I'd like to feed hundred people and I think we can do it environmentally and, and handle it in a safe manner. And they went into this long and I thought to myself, how in the world did they know that I was interested in that? Except for the fact they're, they probably monitored what we do on our computers. And I mean, you know, and we allow this stuff. You go to foreign countries that are allegedly send millions of billions of dollars to, and they tell you don't take your cell phone, take a burner phone because they will bug it and then they will, they will have it forever. And so, you know, but we allow this stuff. I just don't understand it. Thank goodness, Trump stumping them on this stuff because. And that's why he's getting a lot of blowback on everything else.
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A
Yeah. Everything he does, they have a problem, you know, and you've, you've had some success. Your fraud bill passed the House in June.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know, and for a lot of people, when they hear the fraud bill, they don't actually, you know, understand what it means for them, like someone who's watching at home, because most Americans, a lot of Americans, especially ones that I talk to on tour and stuff, they, they feel like their tax dollars just kind of disappear into like a black hole. It just kind of, they don't know where it's going. All they know is that you keep, that they keep wanting more, but they never ever get to see that with the dividends. Like, well, where is my tax dollars going to? And you never kind of get those answers. And I think we should have receipts. There should be. People should be able to see what, you know, this year we spent this on this and this on this, but, and actually see it. So when you, your fraud bill, the, the main focus of it, because it's, it's very complex, but what the main focus for the everyday person is to just. Is it checks and balances.
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B
Yeah. And I just, I have several others that we found a trillion dollars in duplication in our government. Have a bill dealing with that, have a bill dealing with the IRS trying to get that, but you can't get these things. And the problem I have, I think my theory on this is why the delay on the defunding the Taliban because it's given them two years to figure out where to move the money to. They'll come in and they'll wave the flag and they'll have a big bill signing with President Trump. Maybe I don't know, they hate me there in the Senate. I think th. Hates my guts. But that's all right. I think that's what. That's what the delay is so they can move the money somewhere else. Somebody else is. They're figuring out another avenue for this stuff. Because if we pass this, it starts. You know, that's the snowball effect. Everybody says, man, Buret did it. I've got this thing. I know it's crooked and. But again, I. I wish there was total disclosure. I'm like you. I've got a bill dealing with our federal income tax I'm going to be releasing soon. It's a simple bill. And. But. And you watch them squeal on that. Watch who comes out of the woodwork on that. Whatever how it. It can't do this. It can't do that. Well, I'm sick of hearing. I can't, you know. Yeah, I didn't.
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A
Well, actually, they should just say, I won't.
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B
That's what they're saying.
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A
At least. I respect it more. At least.
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B
And they want to run out the clock on me, and I think it's shown on this UFO issue. They're not going to run out the clock on me as long as I'm there.
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A
No.
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B
It's in these podcasts with. And I'm not suicidal, so if you find me tomorrow with 12 bullet holes in the back of my head, I didn't kill myself.
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A
Yeah, there's. You know, especially with whistleblowers, Right. You know, when they come forward on UFOs, you know, they need some form of. It's sad that they need protections so they're not punished for telling Congress what they know. I mean, that should be. They should be honored. It should be like a hero's welcome for coming forward. But it just seems like whenever there's a whistleblower, and not just to the ufo, but in anything, if it's not on your side of the alignment, you attack. They attack the whistleblower, which is, yeah, you should be policing our own tent. Tougher than the other guy's tent.
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B
Yeah, look what happened to David Grush. You know, he had one witnesses coming forward a couple weeks before a hearing, ended up killing himself and was on recorded records saying, I'm not suicidal. You know, and then something was going on. He knew something. He ends up allegedly killing himself. And that was hushed up pretty quick. But look what poor David Grush comes forward with this stuff. And then some weekly newspaper comes out. We got a pretty good weekly here. It's called the Focus. And it's a. And they usually do some pretty good, good work. But a weekly newspaper reporter comes out with the fact that he was he. His medical records, which is a. A federal. Which is a horrible offense to release those. That's a felony. And, and said that he had PTSD from combat or whatever. Well, let me tell you something. They thought that was going to discredit him. In Tennessee, we celebrate folks like that because they are true heroes. They laid it all out. My forefather who fought in the Pacific, won't go through all of it, but he was in on Peleliu and Okinawa and Google those islands and look at the. The awful, awful things he had to do to protect this great country. Volunteered for that. And only had eight weeks of basic training, if you can imagine that. But to the day he died, Tyrus, I never would wake him up over the top of him, always by his big toe, because I was always afraid because he was. He would wake up on one of those islands, right. You know, and he'd pin my ass up against the wall pretty quick. And I knew that as a little boy. And I mean, he was down at Ben Atchley Nursing Home when he died. And to the day he died, I never woke him up over the top of him. And these guys should be celebrated. And this is, this is what happens to a whistleblower, somebody that comes forward with information because this guy's got the receipts. I've been in situations where members of Congress are in there to trip him up and they name stuff and he can name dates, places, people at the table. Incredible memory recall. And, and, and then. And a lot of things that are going on. So anyway, sorry, I went off preaching.
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A
No, no, that was a. That's what this. That's what the point of this whole thing is, a conversation. Because, you know, if one of the reasons I think that it's become more blatant, the fraud and the, and the bullying and the going and the harassment and stuff, is because the media no longer keeps politicians and government in check. They only. They'll go after the smallest thing on the other side or a whole concentrated effort to destroy the name of President Trump instead of just doing the news and doing the actual news. And when you, when you have a senator that goes in front of the court and says they don't know what a woman is, they should be getting bombarded with questions of are they fit to serve office by the media. That's how it used to be. The media was there to hold, to take what they saw happening in Congress and the Senate and et cetera, and then hold them accountable to the people. That was what the whole point was me. Now they're all seem to be playing from the same playbook and we'll support you and we'll cover you up and even you could be one of the most worst human beings on the planet, like a Swalwell or somebody. And it's only until you no longer serve usefulness that all of a sudden everybody comes out and gets you. But they were perfectly fine with his behaviors because he was part of the team. And I think that's the, I think that's the, that's the part that I think makes this so frustrating is, is that they don't, they don't hide it anymore. They do it in plain daylight. You know, someone brought up Nixon the other day and they said, well, that wouldn't have been a crime. I said, oh yeah, it was. But Nixon wouldn't, if he was around, if he was around today and was going to do something like that, they wouldn't have spent. They wouldn't have did it at night. They would did it. They were right off lunch, they would have walked right in there and they would have done it. And then when they caught him, they would have said whoever was catching him was racist. So, you know, so I mean, it's just. And you push, you want more transparency, you want more accountability. I mean, and what does that look like to you? Is it more hearings? Is it more deflat classifications, subpoenas? Because I think the hearings, I don't even watch them because it's just. All I know is if it's a D in front of it and it's anyone in the Trump administration, they're gonna send baseless attacks and ridiculous things. And if there's an R in front of it, it's, you know, I still think they should ask the tough questions. You know, just because we are, just because we vote the same, doesn't mean I shouldn't hold you accountable. If anything, the toughest question should be coming from our own team.
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B
I agree. I, I think America wants that and they're tired of all the tough letters and tired of hearings. Yeah, I think it's, I think we should let the Trump administration do what they said they're going to do. And so far they've not disappointed me in that regard. They have release this stuff as much as they can get. And now the real work's going to happen. They're going to start digging into and following up on some of these leads. And, and, but again, you know, they just want to run. The opposition wants to run the clock out for whatever reason.
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A
And I always ask theories out there, who benefits from that? And I always think that you, you're stopping something because our structure does.
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B
Could you imagine if we had an energy source? I mean, they're showing these things out there in the middle of the ocean that hover for hours, which we have nothing with the capability to do that without refueling.
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A
Right.
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B
And then they can shoot straight up at speeds that we can't even grasp. That would literally destroy you, would just liquefy you and me. And there's some of these things, the capabilities, the energy that that would take to do that. The mathematic, I've seen the mathematical figures on it and it just, it says that, you know, it could almost power the entire country in that one moment. And yet, you know, if we had that power and it shows zero heat source, which, you know, if the starling or a crow flies across my farm, it puts off a heat source.
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A
Right.
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B
And these things are zero energy or zero point energy they call them. And, and it's, it would put the oil companies out of business. The war pimps at the Pentagon would have to go. We're looking for something else besides sending our tax dollars and our kids off to war. And you know, it would dislodge a lot of industry in this world.
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A
I think that's the thing.
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B
Big boys would not be so big anymore.
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A
Yep. Because one of the things that I always thought was funny is that you could make electricity with a potato. So, you know, and I'm like, if we understand that. But if you took away the electric bill from a lot of homes, lives would be a lot different and our country would look a lot different. It would look a lot prettier without wires everywhere. Our birds would sure appreciate it.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know, there's a lot of, there's a lot of upscale to it. And, and I don't get into like a lot of people be like, well, you know, they're the grays or this, that. Let's say. Okay, let's just say they're all, we're all, they're all humanoid. Right. And we invented the clock on this planet. Time is man made.
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B
Yep.
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A
So there could be a planet out there, several planets out there that started 2 billion years before we did. And they, they are. So we're on the, we, we're on the path, but they're just so far ahead of us. And there's things that they can learn from us and that we can learn from them. And one of the things that if they got here to check us out, there's a good chance that their Duracell batteries are a lot better than ours. I'll just. To make it as simple as 100%.
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B
100%. And I. Astro, not astro. It's a. There's a. There's a physics. Quantum physics to me is something I can't really wrap my brain around. But it's instantaneous. You have something over here and it vibrates and it can end up over here instantaneously. To me that, that proves God. I mean it's, it's omnipresent. It's everywhere. And if some advanced civilization has been able to figure that crack, that nut, it kind of makes the water car running our cars off of water look like something, right?
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A
Yeah, because the thing. One of my favorite TV shows is Skinwalker Ranch. And I watch that quite a bit. And I love the fact that the smartest guy in the room has a southern accent. I think that blows all the English professors stereotypes out of the water.
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B
Yeah, I love that guy. He's a good guy. He's been to my house before and
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A
they're running experiments and they're dealing with. We see a lot on that show with the orbs and some of the issues that have happened, the digging. Every time they get to that damn mountain, that little hill, I'll be like, just blow it. I'll be watching the TV blow it up. Just dynamite. Whatever's there, we'll piece it back together. But it's a show like that that is putting out information scientifically. They don't make grand, they don't make grandiose aspersions and they stick to theories and hypothesis and stuff like that. And nobody is losing their mind calling for that show to be taken off the air. And maybe because it's under the protection of the History Channel, I don't know. But it's just. It further lets me know that I don't think Americans, I don't think the world for that matter is ever scared to be educated and to learn something new. Especially if it can vastly improve our life, our children, our grandchildren, et cetera. And at the same time, you know, the same people who are locking up these doors are the same ones that want to put windmills everywhere. And the Green New Deal and all this BS that was just money making schemes because they were just trying to take a piece of the good old boys money, the oil and electric. They wanted some of that money. But if they were truly into preserving the planet, they were truly into making America a better place. We should be with open arms. And I don't want to hear the argument. Well, we don't want the other side to get it. Well, if you were open with us, we would be able to have our brightest young men and women inspired to go to school, to be scientists, to learn how to work with this stuff. But you got to give us. You got to give us seeds so we can grow.
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B
Absolutely. Then. And remember, too, Skinwalker Ranch was. There was federal money because they. At the highest levels of the federal government, they thought there was something unusual that was happening on that.
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A
And there definitely is. You can't dispute that.
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B
Yeah. The guy that owns it, or who owned it, Bigelow, he's a billionaire. He's. He's a. He's a big UFO guy, more or less a friend of mine. I guess we talk. We haven't talked lately. We talk on the phone occasionally. Never been to Las Vegas. When I go out there, he said he'd take me to lunch. So that's pretty cool.
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A
Yeah.
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B
But, you know, he. They found some interesting things there, and there's some things we have not been able to get. And I'll just leave it at that.
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A
Right.
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B
I'll leave it at that. But. Because I'm not at liberty to say all of that, but there's. There's really something going on odd out there. I've been invited out there and I wasn't able to work it in my schedule.
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A
But, yeah, I want to go camping out there. I think I got reached out to a few months ago. It was a little bit longer than that, but I said I definitely would want to go camping there one time, just say I did it.
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B
And I'd say that would be. That'd be ultimate. That'd be better in Area 51.
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A
Yeah, I think. Yeah, I agree. Because this Area 51 is active. So, you know, and there's some wild stuff going on there. Well, you know, because you've gotten a lot of attention. You know, Joe Rogan, Newsmax News Nation, you know, Congress hearings has. And I guess I'm sure you have gotten a lot of pushback, but has anyone ever become like, hey, man, stop asking these questions, like, focus on other stuff?
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B
Yeah, it's my Deep Throat moment, as I call it. Not everybody thinks it's a porn star, but that was a Nixon.
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A
Yes.
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B
Situation. I was. And I'd read a book and said that was kind of funny because they said they Always get somebody close to you that approaches you.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And it happened to be somebody that I knew, and they. They stopped me in the tunnel and it was just kind of a. Hey, man. He goes, do you really want to push this stuff? And I was like, well, yeah. And he says, well, you. Don't you realize, you know. And they always approached me from the Christian aspect.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Because I was trying to be a Christian. And they said, don't you think this is going to upset the religious balance in our country? And I was like, no, no, I really don't. You know, I mean, I had a meeting up the last. Last week with somebody that was very, very legitimate, had approached me about that, but I don't think that was their. Their goal, but this person, it was directly. And I just always struck me as odd that they would do that. Somebody would approach me on that. On that level.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Because I've heard that and that that is some of the conversations within higher ups within the Pentagon and others, that that would disrupt it. But I just. To me, it just. It would increase my faith.
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A
Yeah, I think it would. It would probably increase a lot of people's faith because it would show this. The universe is a magical. Is a special place. And the Creator did that. And I think if anything, what it would hurt is control. And that's what they want. Yeah, they want it under control because people would see that there's other ways and there's other things, and especially from sustaining this, this. This little planet, because Earth is funny, doesn't really like life very much. I think we've had six. Five or six mass extinction moments on this planet. Like every, you know, so few million years, she kind of shakes us off and then kind of starts over and
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B
we call that resets.
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A
Yes. Yes. And although I prefer the reset in America right now, where our kids are looking at trade schools and not looking at becoming influencers or going to school to get a degree in gender studies when there's no gender to be studied. There's two.
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B
Yeah, that's. My degree was technological adult education.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And I could weld and work on it. Small, big engines. I can do a little wiring if you want me to burn your house down, I guess. But. And I can do all that stuff and the wheels fall off. I've always got a job.
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A
Yep. And like I said, if I forget how to make jokes, I'll be. I'll be teaching history and coaching pe if we still have PE in schools. But there's, There's. I think that's why I like the reconnect. And it's men like yourselves who are, are taking this on. Headstrong, you're doing what I like to call it. You have a grown ass man attitude about it. Like, I don't, I don't need the shows and the arguments, just the facts and tell the truth. Because if there's nothing there and you show me there's nothing there, I'm good with it. And if there's something there, let's figure it out. I think that's about as plain and direct as you get. And you, you amplify that, sir. And I, I want to thank you so much for coming on today. And man, I gotta have you back on because we gotta have a good conversation about those, those rifles behind you. Because I think more Americans need to hear those beautiful stories, especially with it being our touring.
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B
I got a million of them from my dad. I can hear you.
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A
And, and, and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm begging. I want to just have a part where we just, you just give me, give me an hour and give me three stories and that's it. And we'll just go from there.
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B
And I think I got a bunch of them. He was, he was not unlike a lot of people in his generation that was, as he said, he's not a hero. He just, he walked off those islands and the heroes, the ones that are left over there.
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A
You know, we don't need to make Marvel movies when we have great stories like that to tell our children and there. And I think that it would go a long way and I think we need to tell more of those stories. Those of us who are able to share them and with such great detail and obviously love and respect, because those things look brand new.
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B
Thank you. They're not worth a whole lot.
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A
Oh, yes they are.
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B
But they're worth a ton to me.
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A
Yes, sir.
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B
Because I can, I can. Because some of the markings on them, I can tell you which island they came off of even. And I can get into all the history of that.
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A
Oh, then I have Harry as the guy from B team who does the book. You know, I'm going to have him bug you because I would love to. When you have time to sit down and hear some of them stories, that would be absolute honor and a pleasure, sir.
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B
Thank you, sir. And thank you for your, your mission, because it is wonderful.
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A
Oh, thank you.
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B
Appreciate you.
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A
All right.