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A
The Kentucky Derby was about everyday people. You know, it was. They would get together and they would race who had the best horse at the time. And it grew to be this, this American institution. It's up there with the super bowl and NBA and it's in a timing event.
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B
It's not like it's the most exciting two minutes in sports, but it's everything that leads up to it.
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A
I was looking at the Derby leaderboard. You owe me a bottle of bourbon next time I see you. So first of all, what it is. Hey, welcome to Outkick, bro. Like, what it is. So tell me about your show real quick before we get into the. The reason why I have you here today.
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B
Well, just real quick on Outkick, it's a weekly segment. It is called Intellectual Audit. And I just look at situations that are going on that could probably use a little thinking through, let's say. And with the absurdity of a lot of the things going on in the world and Lord knows there is an abundance of it, we just try to look at something from a very different angle, take a step back and interject a little bit of common sense in it.
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A
Well, speaking of common sense, which I, I don't know if I have because I'm trusting you as my insider. Last year, a lot of people don't know we started out as arch enemies. We started. Well, no, I think we were arch enemies of where we were. Hi. So our paths crossed at FCW where we were both previously fired from the wwe. And you went to parts unknown Puerto Rico. I, I went and bodyguarded for snoop and gained 200 pounds. And then we ended up sitting in a couple of chairs at practice at FCW and both had the sarcasm that one could only dream of. And it just kind of hit the. The two of us was. There was no good morning. It was just morning. What's good about it? You know, and. And we ended up both coming up on the ranks, being basically told you're there to get guys over. You're not stars, but you're good workers. And we kind of took that and we expounded on it and we both had some really great career highs and, and were able to get over without necessarily needing a title, which is really hard to do these days. And then we just kind of friendship chips kind of kept growing. Although we always had a rule to never publicly disclose our friendship, it was always because we were great arch enemies. We just were complete polar opposites in terms of character in the ring. And I think that's just why it worked.
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B
Absolutely. And some of my greatest memories, by far, some of the most fun memories. It's just working the live events with you.
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A
Oh, man. I will never forget Biloxi, Mississippi, for a lot of reasons. One match was so good. I met my wife there. So, you know, and I remember. Yeah. And I remember coming back with Arin with his arms crossed, which isn't easy, him to do with a gimmick. And the two of us, and he was like, huh, seven minutes, 15. Huh. And, well, you're lucky it was over. But that was one of. One of those things. We just had a lot of fun out there, you know, and that's the best part about the sport that we love, is when you're out there and you don't worry about the other guy, just do your part, Just show up. And I think that's been something with you. And we've made. You've been on Gutfeld show many times. We had the Wise Men podcast with you, me and Trevor, and now here we are. You were starting your own thing with Outkick. Congratulations.
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B
Thank you.
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A
And then now. But the reason why I have you here is last year at 151, you invited me to the Kentucky Derby, and you're sort of a. When it comes to Louisville, I think you're an ambassador. I think that would be everything from. You were working with the mom and Ali legacy, and you kind of. If you ever ran for mayor, it would have to be Louisville. Correct?
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B
Yeah, I would bet on that. But, I mean, there's also far more qualified candidates than I. But you never know. I may decide to get qualified one day.
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A
Yeah, yeah, that's true. And you sit. You have a strong relationship in the community, and you're on a board of some sort. In the Kentucky Derby, how were you able to get. You got me great tickets. You got, you know, VIP passes, and we got a chance to sit in the big box and watch the races, and I almost won the whole damn thing.
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B
Yeah, Well, I essentially sat next to the right people on a plane.
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A
Great.
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B
Yeah. Well, it was right after I had left California. I was working on a TV show in Atlanta and going back and forth, and this was from Louisville to Chicago, and I had sat next to Tanya and Tammy York, the York sisters, and they happened to throw Unbridled Eve, which is a. It's the night before Derby. It's the Derby Eve. It's a gala. They have a silent auction. And they, you know, as you experience yourself, have some of the best acts play, you know, this year we got Phil Phillips, of course, winner of American Idol. Richie Sambor is playing again. You were there last year for that. Sugar Hill Gang is going to be there.
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A
Don't tell Brett Bear that.
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B
Yeah. And it was. No, it was just a great time. But what I am. I'm on the. The committee of Unbridled. And what they do. This is all for charity, by the way, and they provide the proceeds to many different charities, but one of their primary ones is called Blessings in a Backpack. And this is a charity that they provide food on the weekends to elementary school children who would otherwise go hungry. And this is all over the country. And I. I was at Blessings in a Backpack a few years ago. I hadn't been able to make the last two years just because of travel, but I do give every year. And when you hear some of the stories, I mean, they're just heartbreaking. Like, how do we live in the greatest country in the world when there's an abundance of everything and we have, you know, these little children going hungry on the weekends because the reality is sometimes the only time they get a meal is when they're at school. So they are just a wonderful organization. And again, Unbridled is a very big supporter of them. So it's not like you're just going to have a party, although it is. But you're really supporting not only one great cause, but many great causes. And that's thanks to, you know, Tammy, Tanya and all the wonderful work that they do.
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A
Yeah. Cause when I was there, they had a really good fundraiser, and it was. A lot of people don't realize that a lot of royalty from across the world comes to the Kentucky Derby. It's a who's who in the horse world, and not just that, but celebrities. I remember the red carpet, and it was funny because it was a lot of the mainstream media, and for some reason, they're not fans of mine. I don't understand why. But walking out there and the fans of big pop and the cheering and stuff like that was very cool because it was based. You know, the Kentucky Derby was about everyday people. You know, it was. They would get together and they would race who had the best horse at the time. And it grew to be this. This American institution. It's up there with, you know, the super bowl and NBA and it's. It's in a timing event, people. It is a classic. And it. And it's some of the greatest I can remember. Even if you're not into horses, I remember being all about Fauci, Pegasus and War Emblem and American Pharaoh, some of the greatest names. And you cannot appreciate a name better than a wrestler because if you have a great name, you know, and to this day, War Emblem is still my, you know, Fiuchi Pegasus. I don't even know what it means, but I like it. And of course, the name last year. Yeah. I can't even remember the name of the horse last year, but he has such a great name, so.
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B
Well, are we talking about the race that you and I were the only two people to win?
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A
Yes.
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B
Okay. So, right. We're betting the names. We're having a wonderful time, drinking mint juleps, carrying on.
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A
Yes.
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B
We start. You know, we look. I think it was like the ninth race or something like that. And so of course, there was a horse called Zulu Kingdom.
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A
Yes.
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B
Which again, it was the best name. So separately, we didn't. We didn't consult on this.
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A
No, no. But he had a lot of pressure on him. He had a whole kingdom counting on him.
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B
Exactly.
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A
So it could have been the mint juleps also.
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B
I'll support that. Right. We didn't even look at the statistics.
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A
No, no statistics, just mystics.
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B
So we place our bet. And I remember I went, well, Tyrus, I've placed my bet. Who do you have?
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A
Well, you thought you were being funny. You were messing with me because that was the one black name on the roster. I don't know what you're talking about. You were being funny. And. And I typically would have picked the whitest name on the roster to try to be funny to you because we kind of had a George Jefferson Archie Bunker relationship in wrestling. And in life. And in life. And I think those are the best relationships because we can tease each other about anything. And, you know, that's about as much you're going to get out of it, because both of us would probably have to do some answering, but it's all love. It's a locker room thing. And I picked the name, too. So when you pulled your car, you're like, haha. And I was like, haha. And you were like, well. And then he won. And we were like, haha. We knew it.
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B
But the thing was like, I remember after that, we looked at the statistics in the book finally, and this dude was scheduled to come in dead last.
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A
Yeah, dead last. He didn't have. He was 0 to 100. Like, there was no number. There was. He had slim and none and none didn't even show up. Yep.
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B
So he wins. And the best part about. I still have the picture. I'll send it over. The producer. Yeah. When. When this thing won, I'm talking about, there was, like a mass exodus.
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A
Yes.
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B
The counters. Like, we were the only ones up there.
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A
Tickets were being torn up. They're like, who the hell. And then they were all afraid because. Who the hell is this? Although that's. It's a great name. He was so proud, you know, and it's. But. And we don't care about those things. But then the big derby comes, and I bet on a horse that was an alternate, and it was one of those. And he got out of the gate. Horrible. And I said to you. I said, he's either gonna go absolutely crazy or he's gonna win the whole damn thing. And you're like, I agree. And we bet. I bet. I bet for him to win. I should have bet the place. Because the only reason why I ended up losing was because of. Was it Secretary who? Secretariat one? Was it.
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B
No, no. Years ago.
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A
No, no, no, no. It was a similar name like that. It was like. Starts with a P again. I guess this is where we should have done our homework. But we don't have to because it's my. Anyways, the horse won. Our horse finished second. And then two days later, we found out he did an extra too many croppings or something like that. So technically, should have been disqualified, but we had already thrown our tickets away.
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B
But, yep, it was controversial, but I'm looking to make up for it this year.
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A
Well, I'm glad you said that because I have a list of name of horses so we can get some of your picks going into that. But what has been. You've always kind of had a respect for horses, and in some ways, they've always kind of been around you, even though I never would say, like, you're a cowboy or you're a guy who avidly rides horses, but you do have a respect for the sport.
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B
I do. And I just think they're such amazing animals. You know, whether you are into race like or just, you know, like. Like Georgie does. I mean, my God.
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A
Yeah.
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B
See her ride that. That was. To me. I mean. And I remember I was just texting you content when she first started out. And then the confidence that she has on a horse. Not to, you know, to sidebar here or anything, but just phenomenal. I mean, now she's got the. The awards and the. The trophies to prove it.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Because this is really. I mean, she is something else with a horse. Yeah. And. And they're amazing animals. I mean, the. The way a horse can kind of feel what you're feeling and to be able to, you know, just have that bond with an animal. And I mean, again, I, I pretty much love all animals. You know, I'm partial to dogs, but horses are just. I mean, bonding with a horse is different, you know, because there's massive animals and they're almost majestic when they run.
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A
So let me ask you this because you are, and it can't understate this. You have been a top talent in the sport we love of wrestling for over a decade. And you know, you, you're currently grooming young talent in the right way. I guess the word grooming is ruined. You, you're. You're doing more managing now than actually in the ring, but you are building a very successful product over at the nwa. You've, you've been on a lot of. Done some tv, some series, some movies. Very, very hysterical scene on the Netflix show that you did. And now, you know, you're dipping your foot over it at outkick. Is there ever a goal to look to maybe being an ownership when it comes to thoroughbred racing or anything? Is it is on your radar? Is it something or is he just enjoy going? Because this we forget about the pageantry you wear the suit, the women wear, the great, the fastener hats. And it's just, it's like a time machine to take us back to a, to a when when everybody, all the guys wore suits with hats. That's one of the things I did enjoy because I wore a very cool hat. It was like the first time. And that's when I started. I started dropped about 45 pounds at that time, so I was wearing a smaller suit, but that was the first time I had a hat on. And I walked by the mirror and I was like, I look like an old gentleman, you know, And I was like, okay with it. I was all right with it, but. And I was like, hey, this is a regular look for me. And my wife shot it down. But do you think about, at some point, as you get older, is going into the horse world as maybe an owner?
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B
To me, honestly, no, that's never crossed my mind. And here's why. And you can answer this question better than anybody. When you have a horse, that is a big responsibility.
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A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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B
And to me, I've always liked being able to go to the derby and just enjoy it. Just like enjoy again. You know me, I'm not a big drinker, but derby. I'll have some mint juleps.
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A
I'm actually glad you meant that up because I have a bone to pick and I'm looking behind you and I think I'm seeing. So at that gala, I was given a gift. A really nice. And one of the things Louisville is famous for is their bourbon. And I was given a. Yep, yep. And I was given a lovely bottle of bourbon and you were supposed to ship it to me. And I'm just. I just happened to look behind you while you were talking. And I feel like the one closest to. Yeah, so that's what happened to my bottle. You son of a bitch. Right?
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B
No, wait a minute. Are we cutting out?
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A
No, we're not cutting out here. We're not cutting out. And actually the tech guys are offended. You've offended the tech guys. How dare you.
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B
Well, okay, here's what happened.
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A
Yeah. What happened was. Yeah, that's always served me well when I start a sentence with what happened was. Enjoy it. Enjoy it, Aaron. Enjoy it.
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B
I went to go mail it to you.
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A
You went to.
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B
I realized.
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A
Uhhuh.
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B
It is a crime to mail alcohol.
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A
In what country?
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B
This country. Or at least in my.
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A
Uhhuh.
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B
Wherever I was at the time. And I did not want to. Were you in Istanbul in trouble? You're a very high profile man. So what I did is.
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A
You took it for the team because it's open.
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B
I sampled some.
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A
Yes, some. It's a quarter full.
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B
Happy to give you the flavor profile after the podcast. I'll tell you all about it.
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A
I have a profile for you. It starts with an F. What's that? Also, son of a bitch. All right. On the racing side now, obviously the. I was looking at the derby leaderboard. You owe me a bottle of bourbon next time I see you. Renegade is apparently Drew the post at 1. So he's the favorite 4 to 1. Do you know anything about him?
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B
No, I haven't heard much about him.
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A
And then morning line favorite for. And Todd Pletcher is the trainer. And we tend to look at the bottom of the list because we look for horses like ourselves. Talented, unappreciated, and kind of have a axe to grind, so to speak. There are some names here. Let me just. There's a couple that jump out to me. Obviously Renegades by far. I think him in a commandment, which might be your thing because one of the things people don't know is that you're devout in your faith. You don't push it on people. That's why we're friends. But you got commandment at six to one. Right to party. 30 to one. Litmus test. 30 to one. Wait a minute. Number seven, Dannon Bourbon. 20 to one. So happy the Puma. Any of these jumping out at you? Oh, here's one. Chief Wallaby.
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B
That sounds like a wrestler.
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A
Yeah, like Chief J. Silent tactic. Any of these ringing a bell?
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B
Silent tactic. Yeah, I. Yeah.
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A
I want to say I've heard Golden Tempo. Full effort is 20 to 1. I think that's if you. Full effort. Shouldn't he be higher?
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B
He should, but what if it ain't good enough?
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A
Yep. Oh, that'd be a good name for a horse.
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B
Good enough. Oh, my God. Yes. That would be Santino's horse.
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A
Yes. Yes. I'm kind of wonder. Dean. I'm. I'm kind of leaning towards Dan and bourbon because I'm furious about you stealing my bourbon. Maybe that's a sign.
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B
Well, I'm going to fight for the right to party because that was exercising when I decided to sample some of your bourbon. Yes, but I have your best interest in mind. Please.
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A
I don't think that holds up to the litmus test. Who is at number four? All these. But then there's interpreto. 50 to one. That's our Zulu nation.
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B
I'm going to. You know what? Regardless, I'm going to have to put at least 50 down on him.
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A
Yeah, I'm with you, but I'll put. I will go 50. 50.
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B
Okay. If it wins, and I'm saying this publicly, you and I will split the profits. 60. 40. And we will split the profits.
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A
Yep. 60. 40. Because you owe me a $10 fine for not giving me the bourbon.
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B
Okay. Now I can. For me to place the bet. I mean, that is a little bit of labor. So maybe I can tackle both. But you know what? We'll work that out.
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A
We'll figure that out behind the scenes. Okay, so we're going to go. But you know what? I think we messed up. Because now once this goes out and everybody starts betting on our horse, won't the. The odds change? Yeah.
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B
You know what? Let's not do that.
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A
We're not doing that. Absolutely not. Matter of fact, interpreter. Hell, no. It's a new catchphrase. We're gonna get T shirts made.
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B
You know what?
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A
I have an idea.
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B
Wow.
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A
That's original.
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B
Oh, come on. Really?
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A
I'm sorry. That was a cheap. I apologize. It's hard for me because I'm literally looking at my bourbon. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You didn't deserve that.
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B
So I will. To make up for this supposed missing bottle of bourbon when I was only trying.
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A
Alleged.
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B
Is that we're doing now many kind of legal issues. Right.
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A
Okay. You're. You got it. Got it.
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B
We'll put 50 down.
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A
Yep.
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B
Torpedo. And we'll split. But if you would like me to place a bet, I will gladly place a bet for you at the Derby.
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A
Yeah. Because I think we should bet on Dannon's Bourbon. Bourbon, too.
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B
Dan and bourbon.
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A
Okay.
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B
We'll put 100 down on Dannon.
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A
Yep. And the only one. And then there's the puma is 10 to 1. But I just feel like that's a. I don't think that's a good name for a horse.
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B
You know what? It's not like it was just. There's no thought put into it. Yeah.
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A
I mean, because who wants to be named after something that could eat you?
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B
Yeah. Like. And. Oh, he's gonna be fast like a Puma.
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A
I mean. No, that's. And let's get a little more original.
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B
Yeah.
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A
It's not even the same Kentucky Puma.
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B
I would be fine with that.
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A
Yeah. But that also. Kentucky Puma sounds like a older woman who dates younger men.
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B
Yeah, There's.
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A
You know, that'd be Cougar, but they're same, you know, Puma, Cougar, tomato, tomato.
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B
Well, no, no. Yeah, well, Cougar. But the Pumas live up in the mountains.
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A
Yes, yes, yes. A little higher.
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B
Ele.
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A
So maybe she lives in the skyrise that dates government.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So you will be in attendance. Correct. And will you be doing anything from Outkick there? Will you give us where there'll be a report of some sort?
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B
I would be happy to. I would. Again, I will contact the wonderful people at Outkick, who are great to deal with, by the way. They're just awesome people. And, yeah, if they would like me to just give a little report, I will absolutely just do whatever is necessary and let the world know what a wonderful time the Kentucky Derby is. Because as we were talking before, it's not like it's the most exciting two minutes in sports, but it's everything that leads up to it. You know, in Louisville, we have what's called the Kentucky Derby Festival. It kicks off with the Pegasus Parade. Of course, there's thunder over Louisville, which is an air show. That's amazing. There's the largest fireworks display in North America also. And it's just. It's such a great time.
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A
It's also great for the economy.
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B
Oh, amazing. It's amazing. Obviously, like, they call this the Derby City. And just year round, you know, you can't go a week or Two without someone mentioning the derby. And certainly there's Derby city. This Derby city that the businesses are named after it. And it's just.
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A
Yeah.
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B
It is so much a part of the culture here. And it's kind of, you know, Louisville. I always say it's an interesting city because you've been here several times.
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A
The only time we ever tagged together. Yes.
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B
Oh my God.
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A
Yes. Against Big E and Mark Henry. Yes. And we were trying to get Slick to be our manager.
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B
That's right. Who's.
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A
He was in the back. Yeah. I wanted to come out the jive so bros. I would have put on the. Well, you would have wore the Akeem stuff. I would have been boss man enough.
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B
I brought yellow.
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A
Yellow. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Jai. So bro is one of the greatest rap songs of all time. Doesn't get the respect it deserves.
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B
And did you know that was taken from another song? I forget who it was by, but they changed the words up a little bit. But there was another song. It was Jive Soul, bro.
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A
I think Slickster does not get enough credit.
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B
You know what. And I say this as a manager, obviously Jim Cornette was such a huge influence on my career. So I.
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A
Well, Jim Cornette is the greatest manager of all time.
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B
He's amazing.
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A
And no shade thrown to Paul or Bobby because he took teams that necessarily wouldn't have gotten to where they were. And he made them. He made them relevant in terms of like Midnight Express. And I remember and because we cannot do anything without talking wrestling. But I remember it was the Midnight Express against the Road warriors and they got. They lost. And he came out and he talked about how he not mad at him because they gave 110% and he literally was the most hated guy. One promo, one on a Saturday morning with Bobby and next thing you know they are baby faces. He could control. He could. I think being a heel manager for the is the easy part, but the. One of the hardest things ever is a baby face manager. And the WWE tried it several occasions and I think Skulling was probably. But Albano could do it. But like you know, but like Cornette was such a mama's boy that you hated. But as soon as he turned on that charm, all of a sudden forget everything they did. You loved it. And I just feel like that that promo doesn't get enough credit. But Slickster also when he. He then became a baby face and he just. He was running out of time. But I remember the Reverend. The Reverend. Yes. The Reverend. Yes. And he was. He was. I don't Even know if he was a babyface when he was backstage. To be honest with you, I don't know if it cost us a couple bucks. He hit us with the Virgil stuff. But Rip. But yeah, I was just. Louisville. And of course, you can't talk, but it's in Louisville.
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B
La.
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A
Yeah. Yeah, he is. There are certain people, you think of him, Muhammad Ali and of course, the baseball bat, the Louisville Slugger. So there's a lot of historic things that come from such a. It's not a small town. But also, how is it. Because the pandemic hurt Louisville a lot because you weren't having that yearly event that meant so much for the economy. I think we still saw a little removitz of it last year, where the restaurants still hadn't quite got back up on their feet and hotels were kind of still stuck in the. The. A lot of the programs from, like they help. It was hiring was off and. And it was like, you know, it was a lot of things.
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B
Is.
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A
Is you're seeing a progression where it's starting to get back to where it was before.
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B
Oh, without a doubt. Without a doubt. And you know, like the year, like for 2020, I was out in Communist China. Oh, it's. Excuse me. I mean, la.
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A
Yes.
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B
And, you know, I wasn't really here for a lot of that stuff. But then, you know, with coming back, the thing about, like, Kentucky, there's a lot of common sense, you know, where there's, I want to say red and blue, they. They tend sometimes more, like. I'll say this, they tend to more than other places, get along and coexist because it's a little more common sense. And like, with Louisville as a city, the thing about it, like, the charm of Louisville, some people, they either call it the northernmost Southern city or the southernmost northern city. And for me, Louisville has, like I always said, right. It is Southern hospitality and charm meets Midwestern sensibility.
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A
That's a great. I would agree with you 110% on that.
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B
Yeah. So it's a very. Just cool city to live in. And again, I love Tampa. With me, it's always like, do I want to live in Tampa or Louisville? And I just. I just keep here because I think
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A
those are the wrestling capitals. Yes, one or the other. And every wrestler has spent time in both. Worth his soul. Anyway. Worth his boots. And you know what? Speaking of hospitality. So you have a fan here, Harry, on the B team, and he wants to. He kind of wants to follow in your footsteps a little bit, which I'm not is neither here nor there. You have me, but whatever. He now wants to get into the horse game. And again, I don't want to bring up the bourbon thing, but I kind of feel like you owe me a solid. He. He would like to ask you a few questions, if that would be okay with you, to sit down with a. He's. He's Mike. Mike Pataguan. You know. You know, I believe in wrestling. The term is young boy.
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B
But again, he's like, you're Carson Drake in slime balls.
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A
Like, yes, yes, yes. And those. If you don't know who those guys are, please check out nwa, this Carson Drake kid. And about the next few years, he might. I think he's going to be a household name. I really do. And the slime balls are exactly that. But those kids can work.
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B
They can really work, those kids. Like, you know, And I tell them, I'm like, you have. If you stay the course, you have no idea how much money you'll make.
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A
And thank you for doing this, Harry, because I was going to take shots at the ascot, but now the ascot seems kind of cool, so I'm going to let that.
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B
It's all how you wear it.
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A
It really is.
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B
It really is.
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A
It really is. And it's really cool that you would take an American flag and never mind. But. So without further ado, again, I, you know, I'll talk to you this week anyways. But Kentucky Derby, you're going to be there, and then we're going to put. If we could put up some of your Outkick, where people can hit the link and check out your stuff on Outkick, that would be absolutely phenomenal. And I will get with you and we'll figure out our bets secretly, and
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B
then I will be absolved from the Bourbon, regardless.
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A
Yes, yes. As of now, the Bourbon, I'm willing to let it go.
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B
I'll put a C note down on what was the horse.
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A
If I tell, then the odds are going to go up. So we'll put a C note on. We'll put a C note on Renegade. Yes.
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B
I may believe I forgot that's what I was doing. We'll edit that part out.
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A
Yes, yes. We'll fix it and edit. Because, yeah, that's what. My guys have all the time in the world to fix your edits. Absolutely. All right, man. Always, always great to see you. One of my best, closest friends on the planet and all success to you, man. Keep, keep, keep pumping that star, brother. Thank you, Ben.
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B
I appreciate everything.
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A
All right. But also, if you would have the good sense to not tell anyone I gave you a compliment. I would appreciate that.
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B
Of course. We'll edit that out, too.
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A
We're gonna edit that out. We're just gonna beep it out. It's gonna look like I cussed you out.
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B
Yeah.
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A
All right. Well, well, here comes Harry. Good luck, sir. Hey, Aaron.
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B
Hello, Harry.
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C
What's going on?
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A
How are you, man?
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C
I'm doing well. How are you doing?
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A
Good, good.
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C
I like that ascot. Don't listen to the big man.
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B
No, you know what? He's always criticized any kind of wardrobe choice I have. It's. It is what it is.
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C
Like me, I come in with. With sandals and my toes are out, and he's like, put those things away, you know?
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B
Yeah, well, when he used to wear the big, oversized chains and I did nothing but support him. I would appreciate. You know, but that's fine. That's all good. He has this bourbon issue which will get us straightened out.
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C
Right. It's neither here nor there. On that topic, I have a segment that I'd like to do with you. Well, actually, before that segment, I just have a quick question about the Kentucky Derby. Why did we land on horses?
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B
Well, I mean, look, if we got greyhounds. Now, think about this, right? Like you're, you're, you're talking. You said, why do we, like, why
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C
are we riding horses?
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B
They're riding horses.
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C
Why aren't we riding, like, an elephant or a.
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B
Well, okay, I was about to say, right, we can't ride greyhounds. You can't have jockeys on the greyhounds unless they're very, very small. And I'll stay away from that because I don't want to offend any group of people. Let's say they're not racing elephants because first of all, the track is only so wide. If you're going to line a bunch of elephants up, you can fit more horses than elephants. Secondly, there's the cleanup, and I'm going to leave that to your imagination. I don't think good people at Churchill Downs would appreciate that.
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C
Right. I've seen the big horses at Central park, and they.
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B
Oh, no, they're. They're just. They're majestic animals, Right.
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C
And they drop, you know.
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B
Oh, yeah, yeah.
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C
It's quite the cleanup. All right, now let's move on to my segment off that topic. So we've done a topic called News or Noise before where basically I've given Tyrus three headlines and he identifies which one is true. So what we're going to do is I'm going to give you three names of horses and you're going to identify which one is a racer horse thing that's running in the Kentucky Derby this Saturday. You ready for round one?
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B
Yes.
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A
Okay.
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C
Golden Tempo, Midnight Calculus or Velvet Thunder. Which one of those is a real horse, not an elephant that is running this Saturday?
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B
I'm just going to say Velvet Thunder based on the jacket I had made for Unbridled Eve the night before. I don't even care if it's.
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C
It was velvet. It was Velvet Jacket that you're wearing.
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B
Yes, it's to the. I gotta ask Scott Mayfort again. Unbridled is the one night I show out, so. Well, it's one of the nights I show out, so we're going to go Velvet Thunder, which, by the way, I name all my jackets. One of my jackets is called Blue Thunder. I just had Sweet Sapphire made. But Velvet Thunder, that is the name of the next one, so thank you.
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C
I really wish you were correct on this one. Well, because that was an awesome, beautifully long winded answer. But it was Golden Tempo.
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B
But you know what? I just named a jacket. So am I really the loser?
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C
No. And I just learned more about your wardrobe, which means we're both winning.
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B
You know what? One step closer to where you need
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C
to be and I'm going to start naming my socks and they will get separated and it's going to be confusing.
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B
How are you going to tell them apart?
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C
So exactly.
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A
That's.
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B
I got to.
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C
I have to label them. Round two. Okay, full effort. Steel Magnolia Road or Bourbon Eclipse?
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B
Full effort. That's correct.
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C
You just gave your full effort. Third round, neon derby. Great white. Shout out. Dr. Greg Schomal, great white expert, Crimson Parlay.
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B
Well, if there was a horse running in the derby called Great White,
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A
I
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B
would say that Tyrus and I would have discussed it based on last year's happenings. What were the other two again?
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C
Neon Derby. Do you have a neon jacket?
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B
Well, I have a pink one that, you know, you could say. And by the way, it's called the Pink Panther.
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C
Oh, like the Pink Panther? Like the.
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B
So, yeah, you know what?
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C
We'll.
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B
Okay, that right there is on top of the list right now. Now, what was the other one?
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C
Crimson Parlay.
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B
Is that another jacket going with Neon Derby? It was Great White and we didn't discuss that. Well, guess what if I don't know where Tyrus is, But I'll place two bets for us.
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C
I don't know where he went.
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B
I'll bet his horse and then I'll Also, I'll place two bets for us. In honor of last year, I will
- [33:57]
C
put my entire bank account, $36, on Great White.
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B
Okay, we're in the house. All the chips. Perfect.
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C
All in.
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B
Perfect. We got it. And I don't owe you any bourbon or anything, right?
- [34:11]
C
No, that's okay. Okay. Yeah, we could get plenty of that.
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A
All right, good.
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B
We can't mail it.
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C
Yeah, it's fine. That's all right. Yeah. Last round. Are you ready? I hope Corona de Oro, Diamond Reigns or Desert Anthem.
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B
I just like Desert Anthem. See, I'm guessing the names. This is how I bet.
- [34:39]
C
No, that's smart. It's smart. But unfortunately, this time it was. It was Corona de Oro, which is.
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B
Well, a horse named Corona. I mean, that should have run in 2020. It would have won.
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C
Yeah, exactly. All right, Aaron. Well, thank you for. Thank you for your time. It's always a pleasure meeting you. I'm the one who texts you. I'm the one who gets you to come on Planet Tyrus. That's the end of this episode of Planet Tyrus. Thank you, everybody, and good luck, all the horses and all of the jockeys and all the owners.
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A
Happy Derby.
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C
Yes. Happy Derby. And all the poop scoopers.