Interviewer (1:43)

I'm eating a lot of steak.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (1:45)

Okay. Thank you.

Interviewer (1:45)

Eating a lot of chicken.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (1:46)

So you're actually doing something. I'm doing something.

Interviewer (1:48)

I'm doing a lot of cardio.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (1:50)

That is you.

Interviewer (1:51)

I'm doing a lot of cardio. I'm taking care of my health.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (1:53)

Good. Congratulations. You should speak like that because you were close to losing. Wait a minute.

Interviewer (2:01)

More. 30 years old, not pounds.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (2:04)

This is not a zero given attitude. And where is your belt?

Interviewer (2:09)

I wanted to be a little bit more serious for today. I know. Okay.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (2:13)

I want to be more serious. All right, go.

Interviewer (2:15)

All right, so we're here. I'm here to interview you about your story with Fox and your journey. So just bear with me. We're going to get through this together, all right? Okay, all right. So you've had a unique path, and that's from being an athlete to bodyguarding to professional wrestling. And now you're at fox. Take me through that transition. How do you go from one extreme to the other?

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (2:43)

Well, the circumstances of my background is really inconsequential. You know, just a guy been fired a lot and saw some open doors, and I pushed through him. But how I got to fox, I honestly still haven't quite figured that riddle out yet. It was never a plan. There was never a time in my life where I was like, hey, if this wrestling or football or bouncing or whatever it was I was doing at the time doesn't work out, I'll just take my ass down to FOX News and tell like it is. Actually, man, I was very anti politics in terms of talking about it publicly. I always thought that was something that you just don't do. It's like religion. People get caught up in their. Their ways, and usually it takes them a lifetime, hopefully, to be in their convictions or whatever. So I just feel like there's three things that you really shouldn't discuss openly because nothing good typically comes from it, and that's religion. When you push your religion on somebody else. Two, when you. When you talk about politics, and there's always sort of a you can't be wrong kind of an attitude when people talk about it. I've noticed. And then the third thing is you shouldn't talk about your sex life with, like, your wife or your. Somebody important with. With people around you because you're putting out there. First of all, you're putting out their stuff that really isn't anybody's business. And second of all, you are leading opportunities for someone to manipulate your relationship, you know, so. So those are things that I've always kind of kept to myself. So I never really saw myself in politics at all. You know, I didn't watch anything as far as news. I would just flip. There were certain people that I would, I would. If I saw them, I'm like, oh, that guy's not bad. That guy's not bad. And Brett Baer was always a guy that I could count on, you know, Straight shooter.

Interviewer (4:29)

Yeah.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (4:30)

And I used to listen to the one guy, Wolf Blitzer. Wolf blitzer, CNN I used to listen to him a little bit. I'd flip around back and forth. But I never really got into.

Interviewer (4:38)

Kept everything open.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (4:39)

Yeah, I never really got into the opinion because I thought, I have an opinion, so why the hell do I need to hear theirs? And a lot of times unless. And it wasn't really opinions. It was like I was. It was like a cookie cutter response from a lot of people on these panels where there as long if their answer always aligns in their party. And I always had a problem with that. You're full of shit. You can't. If you agree with everything. It's like the guy who's friends with everybody, he's not friends with anybody. He's just. He's just there. He's one of those people. Like, I don't like the guy that everyone's like, oh, he's everybody's friend. He ain't my friend. Him.

Interviewer (5:17)

Yeah.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (5:18)

Because he doesn't stand for anything. So that was kind of my mindset. And then.

Interviewer (5:23)

So, like, out of all the directions you could have gone, you could have gone broadcasting, you could have gone entertainment. Why did you feel like FOX was like the next step for you?

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (5:30)

I was at a point in my life, in my career where I was extremely frustrated and being outspoken, not wanting to. If you're good enough or you feel you're good enough to be the top guy at something and the people around you, like, you could be. But you're really good at getting our guys better. Yeah, you have to make a decision. And so I started like, if I didn't like something that I didn't think was good for me for a long time, I just ate it because I never felt that I was in a position to, like, change it. And I think a lot of us feel that way. Like, you get. You get to your job, you get to your spot, maybe you get a promotion and you're in a good thing. And then you see people getting people who maybe didn't earn it, in your opinion, or getting. You're getting passed over, you're frustrated, and you have to ask yourself, is it worth. Is this fight worth. Is it worth going up to the boss's office and saying, where's my promotion? Where's my raise? Where's my opportunity? I think I'm this. There's a risk in doing that. And a lot of us, I think, get caught up in, hey, I got my bills paid, I'm taking care of my family, and I'll just deal with it, you know.

Interviewer (6:41)

So what would you say is the hardest part of that transition? Going from wrestling to then getting involved in political media and being. Being in the entertainment world in a different sense?

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (6:50)

Well, it's completely different because wrestling fans are there are all encompassed. Whether they love you or hate you. They're. They're with it. They're booing the hell out of you or they'll cheer for you. They'll still show up.

Interviewer (7:04)

Good point.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (7:05)

Yeah. Going into Fox, it was. People were. It was either I love you or I hate you, you know? And it was like, if you showed up on the one thing you. There was something wrong with you. And the emotional drama that went with being on a political TV show was something that I didn't want any parts of, because at the time that this was happening, I had several opportunities in TV series. I had. I was on Glow on Netflix. I was. I also had a. I did the show Love. I had. I was on MacGyver, the Purge. So I was pretty active. Had done a couple movies and, like, things were starting to, like, pick up. And you were starting to expand. Yeah, yeah. And I get a. I was coming back. I went to Japan to wrestle. Came back from a successful Japan tour. And it was. I don't know, it was about 3 o' clock in the morning maybe. And I was just kind of, like, up because I was still on Japanese time. I was all like, my jet lag and stuff. I couldn't sleep. And I wasn't a big social media guy at all. And I just happened to notice that my entire feed was full of, like, this. Some guy was just going. Was trying to troll Gutfeld and he was saying all kinds of. And somehow I got tagged into it and he basically said, like, Gutfeld was as fake as wrestling. And it was like a meme of me as the Funkosaurus or some like that, if I remember right. And usually I don't care, but it was like, it just caught me on the wrong day. And I wrote back, I was like, hey, man, like, you're talking about me. You're talking about this guy. He's. You know, I think Greg said something about him back and forth or whatever. And I was like, we don't really know each other. Like, this is ridiculous. Like, what if you guys all. I flew you guys down on Tampa, we get a beer and get to know each other? Like, this is ridiculous, you know? And the guy wrote back, really? Can I bring my friend? And I wrote back, no. And I blocked him. So I thought it was pretty funny. And then I didn't, but I forgot to block Greg. And Greg messaged back, like, lol. That was pretty funny. You should. You should come on my show. And I was like, yeah, right. And I had seen Greg a few times on Red Eye, but I never equated that to, like, politics. It was just Like a late night, fun show, you know, it was weirdly silly, I guess you could say, but that's what I had known him from. But I had never really, like sat through a whole episode. It was just. I get to my hotel room in the WWE and I get to. And I click on. He'd be on, you know, I'd watch him as I'm, you know. So it was. I was familiar with him, but like, if you asked me, like his first and last name, I would have been. Would have been.

Interviewer (9:43)

You knew the face.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (9:44)

Yeah. So he asked me to do the show and again, I'm thinking it's like a comedy show. I didn't really think. I didn't really draw the distinction. And then I thought about it and I agreed to do it. And at first I thought he was full of. I thought he was bullshitting. I really did. I thought, unfortunately, in the wrestling world, you get some really weird dudes on social media asking you some weird come on my podcast or come work my indie show sucked into it. And it's all. It's like creepy guys. And so you have to be very wary about who you or who you. So everyone. It doesn't even matter, Even if you're a 6, 8 monster, know who you're talking to on social media. But. So his producer called, looks like it was legit, flew me out. I did the show and the topic that we talked about was Royal Grande and her boyfriend licking donuts. That was the, the story that, that I was gonna be asked the question first. And it was a completely different show then. It was. Kat didn't even sit on the couch. She sat in like a chair on the other side. And she was in charge of like the fact checker. And then he had this liberal map on the wall that's talking like something that escaped from Pee Wee Herman's show. And he had like a Johnny Carson desk and a little white couch or whatever, and it was a door. So I get to the set and I'm looking at it and I'm like, okay. And he comes up and he has this, has this ask. Wouldn't it be great if he know. And I was a little worried about when it was going to get weird. And he was like, wouldn't it be great if Tyrus carried me through the door and like, and then put me in my chair? Like, wouldn't that be awesome? I was like, here we go. It's going to get weird now. This guy, who, I don't know, little guy, wants me to pick him up like, we got married and walk across the threshold, which you probably should be practicing. And I was like, oh, man. And I remember Smir. I was just saying to myself, I knew it. I knew this was going to happen. And. And then I just said, screw it. I'm only doing the show one time. No big deal. So I carried him, did the thing, and then we did the. The question. And he was like, you know, you need time to prepare. I was like, nah, this is easy one. And when he went to me, he was just like, what do you think? You know, with this whole Arroyo they ran the clip and they didn't thing. And I just looked at him and I just said, you know, there's all these. These talking points you could talk about. And I just looked at him and said, it's gross, Greg. Don't do it. Yep. And he was like, brilliant. You know, we didn't have an audience then, but the team laughed. And I'm like, yeah, it doesn't matter who you are. You don't touch something. That's like worse than double dipping. You don't double dip and you don't lick things and put them back. Like, what are you for? Yeah, it was ridiculous, you know, And I just was. It was just a common sense, grown ass man answer. And I didn't need to study or research to answer that. I think anyone can answer, you know, and there was a couple other things, but it was very light. We go to the first commercial break and he's laughing to himself. And he was like, man, if you lived in New York, I'd make you a co host. Man, your timing's great. And I was like, you got all that just from a couple segments? Which he was right, because my timing was very good in wrestling and movies and stuff, in a lot of improv stuff. So I was like, all right, cool. I said, well, I don't live in New York and I'm not going to, but. And we're literally, we got like two minutes and we're making it, having this discussion. And Gray was like, what about like once a month or something? And I was like, all right, cool. Again. Really didn't think about that there would be any repercussions. It's a comedy show that just happens to be on Fox News, like, no big deal. But that was not. Not the case. Like, as soon as it aired, it was just everywhere and people took off and ran. Well, in a bad way. I was almost a little. I was terrified because I was worried about my acting career. And I really Wasn't really. Didn't see there was no bone I wanted to pick in terms of a fight over politics. I thought both sides were full of shit anyway, which is a sad thing. Yeah, it's a sad thing, but I just didn't. I just didn't have any interest, feel

Interviewer (13:41)

the need to be afraid to work somewhere.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (13:44)

Yeah, it wasn't even about. It wasn't afraid like, oh, I'm scared. It was just the annoyance, the virtue signaling from all these liberal actors and shit. And I'm like, bruh, stop it. I've seen your car service. I've seen how you talk to people. You know, it just sounds good to say that you're, you know, these things, so. And then just calling them out, it's just not. It just wasn't worth. I saw no future in it. I never want to be in public office, so. And then I get a call from, like, a couple of companies that book me for, like, indie shows and stuff. They're like, hey, what's going on with the Fox News thing? And I was like, what do you mean, what's going on? When I did the Gutfeld show, what's the issue? Like, well, we don't really. We don't. We don't support them. And I was like, I didn't ask you to. Yeah, you know, so I didn't realize it was all these little, like, groups and stuff. They were getting all offended. And this was even, I think maybe, I want to say a month before Trump. It wasn't that long before Trump announced or whatever, but maybe it was a little bit of time before that. But it, I didn't realize it was a. I didn't. I just thought it was just some weird wrestling producer. And I was like, ah, screw them. I don't like their. Anyway, I didn't really like doing indies that much anyway, so. And then of course, the month goes by and at the time I was working for Total Non Stop Action Wrestling, tna. I'm working for them and doing Japanese tours and acting when I can get it. And then I get a call from Greg. He says, hey, we want to bring you in this Saturday. And I was like, all right, cool. And it just so happens to where. But I couldn't because I had. We had a pay per view that weekend. And he was like, oh, I'll send a team and we'll just do a quick interview. And I was like, okay. So, and, and, and Dixie Carter and them were super supportive, like, oh, this is great. This is, you know, like, you're Gonna be live from a pay per view, doing an interview, which is good for them. They get a little bit of recognition and at the same time they have a wrestler who's opening bigger things. And again, I didn't think much of it. Did the interview, no big deal, no heat from any of the other wrestlers. And not that I gave a but. And then it was like, hey, can you do another Saturday? And can, you know, this Saturday, can you do another Saturday? And at that time, Impact or tna, whatever one they're going by now, they were going through a little bit of financial hardships where like checks relate. And they were doing the best they can, but they ran out of money and they were trying to keep the company afloat. And so there some weekends opened up and you said something earlier about like, you had a lot of options. Sometimes when you're in it, you don't feel like you do. You might. People on the outside might think, hey, well, you can just go do this or you could just do that. All that stuff takes time.

Interviewer (16:23)

Yeah.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (16:23)

And when you have bills and you have kids. And at that time I had just had, you know, three kids and. And you know, and I'm just, I'm starting a new relationship with my wife. Like, it was a lot of things going on and so I really wasn't in a position to be pick and choose. And sometimes in life you get what's thrown on your plate and you have to make. You have to make the best of it.

Interviewer (16:46)

Yep.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (16:47)

So never thought there was going to be like an opportunity to make money at Fox at all. Like, I just, I thought maybe being on the show would be good exposure, give me some opportunities maybe. And then we had the episode that I think that changed the course of my career. Because the one thing I will say about Greg is that when it comes to his belief, his political beliefs or whatever, he's outspoken and unabashedly unafraid of consequences, which was something I learned from him. Because to that point I just didn't bring it up. Even if I didn't, if I, you know, I voted for Obama and I didn't like something he did or somebody said something, I'm like, I ain't got time for that. It just, it just didn't seem like it would seem like a wasted effort to argue, you know, but one of the things that Greg did is he would challenge me a lot and he would bring up stuff and I'd be like, I didn't really look at it that way. So then I would start to research And I'd be like, okay, let me come back with something with him. And it became competitive, like a game. It became fun. And I started getting a little more. I wanted to start having answers that nobody else had. Was. My whole thing was like, you're gonna have all these lawyers and former politicians and pollsters and like social media people and like they're all going to have their same. I'm going to try to answer everything different, even if everybody agrees with something. And I did it last night on the show when they were. I'll just disagree just to be that guy. And I was having fun with it.

Interviewer (18:17)

Well, see, that's the reason why a lot of people connect with you. You, you work at Fox and a lot of your stuff that you say and do seems more cultural and more relatable than strictly political. So how do you view yourself? Do you view yourself more political now or do you still want to keep the. I'm just the common guy speaking for the common person.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (18:40)

I'm not political in the sense where, like, I don't belong to a team. Like if, like President Trump, when he joined the Republican Party, he spoke to me a lot clearer than any other politician. Now, the difference between. I used to get a lot of shit for. How could you vote for Obama and you could vote for Trump? Well, there were two different elections, number one, and I had to look at both sides and there wasn't. I didn't see a real difference between Obama and McCain or Iran. I didn't see a huge difference. So when it came to Trump, I saw a. After voting and Barack Obama kind of made everybody pay attention more to politics. And I think the worst thing, the worst word ever was the first. I think the first is the worst word ever. First black president. Everybody was going to nuts and I believe in his dream and they, and they, they, they mistake being the first for being the best. Or, or being you should be there. It doesn't matter what yours is, you deserve to be there. You're not the first. You're the one of many who just. You're a qualified man to be president or woman. You just. Your skin tone is irrelevant. And I didn't really think in those terms until I started hearing different philosophies, different attitudes from people who were. I had nothing in common with Greg in terms of political beliefs at all. And Kat was a libertarian and I don't even think I used the word libertarian a sentence at that point. So there was all these different things, but I was. But you learn and you grow and you, you see things from different perspectives. So I'm kind of like a, a hermit crab in terms when it comes to politics. I will walk out of one to go in the other if it's the best for me and my family or if I think something's wrong. And President Trump for the three opportunities I've had to vote because he was the better choice in my opinion. And this is before I got to know him as a man and all those things. I'm just saying, just so I've, it was a combination of things, but I never, ever wanted to be cemented into one thing because there are just as many bad Republicans as there are Democrats.

Interviewer (20:48)

And a lot of people can resonate with, with your journey. They can resonate with your process from A to B, B to C, going through hard times to now being successful. And a lot of Fox's audience, the broad audience are the middle class, the hard working people, the small business owners, the families. So what message do you try to accomplish anytime you're on the air? For those people who really do see a lot of the same qualities in

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (21:18)

you that they see in themselves, it's about maintaining. Yeah, I say it all the time, maintain. Because that's what we're always trying. We're trying to maintain a, a good life and a good opportunity. And you're going to have peaks and you're going to have moments, you're going to get bonuses, raises, you're going to maybe come upon an opportunity that wasn't there before. Something great's going to happen in your life and you're also going to have the down times and you're going to have the things where the money's right. You miss a bill or, you know, you can't do the family vacation this year because something happened or whatever, health care, whatever. But you have to maintain a certain level through it all. You can't, you can't go too high when you, when things are good and you can't go too low when things are bad. You have to maintain. And I think that's always been my message is no matter how bad it is, we understand that whatever this is is only four years.

Interviewer (22:06)

Yeah.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (22:06)

You know, it's only like you have to look at things in perspective. It's not the end of the world when, when a government screws you over in taxes. That's not the end of the world. Like we live our whole lives every day and senators and House members typically are not a part of those lives. So they should not be the first thing on Your mind politics should be something you understand, you educate yourself on, but it should not be the first thing you say to somebody in the morning when you wake up.

Interviewer (22:33)

Yeah, and that's a fantastic point. And also I think you being on camera and being able to represent that thought is great. Now when you have yourself on camera, what's your mindset? Are you trying to inform people? Are you trying to correct people? Or are you just trying to challenge people on their beliefs and make them think? Huh? That's a good point.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (22:55)

Don't take this the wrong way. My, my mind is pretty empty when I'm in front of the camera.

Interviewer (23:01)

No, that's a, that's not a bad point at all.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (23:03)

I'm just observing everyone and looking Now I've spent the whole day or time or filling my head full of information. So I'll be in my office whether I'll have a TV on, I'll have, I'll be reading a story or whatever or I'll look for something but I'm always. And I'll watch a lot of the other network stuff to see what, what their hard pushes on the other side and try to figure out because you know, there's a little truth on each sides or whatever. But it's getting harder to do that because one side is just so anti president that they, they don't see anything else whether it's good, bad or indifferent. But you still have to watch, understand where people are coming from to try to get a thing. So when I go on gut feel just like and same thing in wrestling, football, you have a plan. I know if this happens, this happens this time. Wrestling is the same thing. But there's a, there's, there's moments when things go awry, things go off. Someone says something you don't plan that you need to be prepared for and you need to let everybody know in front of the camera that you're already prepared. So when somebody says something, you don't want to funnel through your notes or say things that are stall for time like to your point or, or you know, people are buying time because they get, trying to get, trying to figure it out. You should already figure it out. And that's the know what you're going to say. Yeah, and that's my advantage. I already have three ways of going with this. Oh, Cat went first. She took my idea. Okay, cool. Now I got, you know, and I pivot. But you can only pivot if you're prepared. So I over prepare and then underperform when it comes to the answer I need to say what I'm saying. But I also understand that every time I speak. And again, this comes with. When you have consistent. Like, I'm pretty sure I'm on Gutfeld every week, so every segment. I don't need to change the world. If I feel passionate about something and I want people to really understand where I'm coming from, you'll feel it. I'll hone in on it and I'll take a risk to point something out. But a lot of times it's just, this is my take. Do with what you want with it. My ego is not bruised. If you don't care what I have to say or you disagree, that's kind of. We got away from being able to accept confrontation, being able to accept the difference of opinion. It's not the end of the world. They're not sleeping with your wife. They just think differently you do about something. So maybe you can agree to disagree. This whole thing of. And TV has really pushed the thing where people argue and fight on TV and trying to push their side, but neither side ever takes what the other side is and says, oh, I agree with this, but I don't agree with that because they're just. It's like a game show. So. And I'm very anti conformity to that because I think it's. I think it's cheap. I think it's cheap just being real

Interviewer (25:44)

to your point of. Of when you're on Gutfeld. There you go. I just did it. You don't give the textbook answer.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (25:52)

No, you don't give.

Interviewer (25:54)

If it's a political topic, you don't give the textbook answer. You give the thought that the person sitting at home is having. Not the textbook that says, this is how you should feel. This way. You go to that family level, you go to that relatable level. And I think that's why so many people. When you say your answer and you hone in on that one thing, that's why you have a very strong reaction because you just get it.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (26:16)

If you want a stats guy. Yeah, I'm not that. There's like 9 million of them here. Yeah, they. And you can't miss them. They got suits and ties on and they're like lawyers and accountants. Those guys can give you the numbers and the thing. But like, that's not who I am. That's why I don't wear a suit and tie on tv. I don't pretend to be something I'm not.

Interviewer (26:33)

You're you. You have your pant leg up and.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (26:35)

Well, these are shorts, but backwards hat. But. Yeah, but that's. That's who I am when I'm at home.

Interviewer (26:39)

And.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (26:40)

And I think for politics, we have so many people who pull curtains down and try to pretend to be something that we're not. I think that's one of the worst things we see on politics on both sides. We see the shitty videos where they try to pretend like they drink beer with their wife at home. They don't even speak. Or the Republican. You know, they're doing barbecues and the meat's not even. The cooker's not even on. There's all this. This, or they. Every one of their pictures with their family is a perfect family photo. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, they. They create these. Well, the. They create that. They don't have any issues. And then this, and then you. And then, lo and behold, they get in the office and then there's all this dirty laundry and all this bullshit. And if they were open with you, like, what you see is what you get. I've been. I'm very open of who I am, what I am. I've made mistakes in my marriage. I've made mistakes as a parent. I've made mistakes in my career. I've been fired. I've. I wear those things as badges. This idea that. That failure and owning failures and mistakes and learning from them seems to be a real problem for a lot of people in entertainment. And they try to. They make it worse by trying to cover everything up. But who I am is what you see is what you get. And it's been very effective. I don't know how long it will last. You know, it's one of those things where talking about common sense and pointing out the obvious, that's a skill that everybody has, just. They don't. They choose not to use. So right now, it's unique and it's lightning in a bottle and all that shit, but eventually they're gonna be like, hey, I figured it out. You know, and that's the thing. But it's okay. One of the things that. That drives me insane is I think I heard somebody, it was an actress or something, talking about, well, I hadn't got another movie role in a year, and I thought my life was over.

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Tyrus (George Murdoch) (28:40)

That's amazing you would say something that stupid because you can't act in movies. Like, there's this sense of, like, overwhelming, like oded. Everyone thinks that their life is over if one job doesn't work out, especially a job that's not promised to everyone. Like, it's not like you're losing a job as a clerk at Walmart.

Interviewer (28:57)

So you've been here long enough to understand how it works here. You, You've come from this sports background, Sports, wrestling. How do you compare or can you make any comparisons of the sports world and how it operates to how your life now operates with Fox. Is there any similarities there, any metaphors

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (29:18)

that you can have to deal with? The GMs, okay, you have to deal with like the player reps and the, you know, and it's kind of like you have to deal with producers and stuff. And a lot of times they, they have like cookie cutter kind of like every show, you know, and then you're this completely different enigma and they try to put you in a box and I'm just unboxable. So there's.

Interviewer (29:38)

Is it because you're large?

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (29:40)

No, it's. Well, that helps. Yeah. But also I have a larger than mentality and I'm the first person to say if I don't like something.

Interviewer (29:46)

Yeah.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (29:46)

And I know that that used to be a respected trait to be like, hey, I'm not feeling this now. It looks we've gotten this day where no one can take consequences or create criticism. They can point at you all day and they can say things like when you leave the room all day. But as far as, like, coming up to somebody and saying, hey, I don't think this works, or I don't like this. It seems to be very hard to do today because everybody, it's. It's very fashionable and financially beneficial to be a victim now. So if someone says, like, hey, Ryan, I don't like this interview, oh my God, he's attacking me because I'm white. He's attacking me because I'm like, they will make up all the excuses in the world instead of just being like, hey, they didn't like the interview. It happens every joke. Guess what? Every time I go on gut fail and I make a joke or something like that, there's going to be somebody at home going, I like it.

Interviewer (30:32)

Yeah, but that's.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (30:33)

I'm okay with it. Yeah, it's part of it.

Interviewer (30:35)

Not everyone's going to like you. So now this is kind of like a Two part question, but you can make it one if you want. What are you trying, looking ahead, what are you trying to build at Fox and where do you see yourself in the next few years at Fox? Because it seems like Fox is your current Persona. That's your current state in life. So where do you see yourself going and what do you want to build going forward?

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (30:58)

I want to build a retirement home.

Interviewer (31:00)

Okay.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (31:01)

And when I'm done with Fox, I will be done with everything.

Interviewer (31:05)

So this is it.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (31:06)

This is it. Yeah. No, no. Finish out once my contract's up. You know, it's the same thing every year I look at it. I'm a horse dad, so I had to push a horse dad and a travel baseball dad, so I have to push things. Oh, and a bassoon dad and a swimming coach dad. So I'm sure everyone's gonna be wanting to go to college. The nerve. Trying to push that trade school. But. So once everything's done, it's like thanos, man. And then I'll rest. But the plan is to. I've been here for. It was 11, 11, 12 years. It's been a long time. Started this party. I started doing stuff at Fox in 2014. So that's a, that's a long time. So I don't, I don't foresee any changes. It's entertainment. You're one bad joke away from being done. But so far I've been able to, you know, navigate those waters pretty well. I probably, I'd like to do another maybe three or five years and then, you know, have a Swanson say goodbye. I don't, I don't want to stay longer than I need to. I think that's important in entertainment. I think people stay too long and you got to give the young, the group coming up something to, to build for. That's why I always want to work with, with guys who are up and coming. Because I think if you build something while you're there, when you go, it can. It carries something behind, something behind. So that's always. You always want to leave the place better when you left and when you got there. Hopefully you don't. And you want to be thankful. Fox took a chance with me. There was nothing else like me. CNN tried it.

Interviewer (32:43)

Are you happy? Ended up being Fox, looking back.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (32:45)

No, no, no. CNN tried it with Cooper Anderson. They had his, I think it was his driver. He had a black T shirt and a gold chain on and his hat and he was like Lou or something. And I think he got two episodes in, I guess it didn't work out with Lou because it's not a big frame. You know, Kendrick, Perkins, you owe me money. All of a sudden, ESPN started bringing all the big guys and, and that's cool. And it's kind of cool that you'll never get credit for it. But it was like Fox is the first one to get the big fella's opinion. And

Interviewer (33:15)

so you think you made the right decision coming to Fox?

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (33:18)

Yeah, 1,000%. Yeah. 1. It got me out of having to do everything physical because I would have wrestled till my body gave out and I was. Even my retirement match. I probably shouldn't have had a serious leg injury, a hip injury, and. But I, you know, I didn't want to leave EC3 and Billy hanging. So I went out there, but I wasn't happy with it. But, you know, when you're a wounded champ, you got to do, you know, you got to do the right thing. But the same thing with, also with this, you can stay too long, you can get too bitter, you can get too deep into it. You know, there's things that. There comes a time when you look like, when I get on TV and am I making people like, my goal when I go on TV at night is to make you laugh and make you think. It's not supposed to send you to bed with your eyes open, afraid to sleep because you think the end of the world's coming. Because I got to say things like that to get you to tune in. I've. I won't ever get to. I'm an anti clickbait guy. Like, here's my. Here's who I am. You want to watch it, great. If you don't, cool. But I guess I would like. No one ever likes to talk about the finality of anything, but it would be nice to be in a position like financially, like, my kids are good, my wife is good, my retirement's good to be like, hey, you know, in the NBA, you got the rocking chair and stuff. I guess maybe at Fox should get a microphone. You know, you do the round and. Or a watch or some. It would be nice to go out and then, you know, every once in a blue moon, write a book or make an appearance. I mean, that would be. And then kind of make up for all the lost time because I haven't got enough time to see my kids grow and everyday stuff. And it would be nice for the third part of my life to be more focused at home with my kids and stuff. I don't need to be on TV every Day to be. To matter.

Interviewer (35:04)

So what would you say, looking back at your career at Fox? I have a feeling I know what it is. But what would you say is the one moment that you can look back on and say, that was the best moment of my career here at Fox?

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (35:18)

Oh, probably interviewing the President of the United States going into election, I think. And the fact that it was coined the most human interview interaction.

Interviewer (35:26)

Yep.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (35:27)

And there was. There is people who say it influenced the election. For me, it was just. I just sat down with a man who's running for president.

Interviewer (35:35)

So when Trump's watching right now, what do you have to say to him?

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (35:37)

You're welcome and thank you. He didn't have to do it.

Interviewer (35:44)

That whole interaction was fantastic.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (35:45)

Yeah. And it's just. It's one of those things where this is. And this sounds like such a cliche, but life is so much easier when you just be yourself. Yeah. The person you pretend to be, that's so much work and you have to maintain it. And you're going to get caught slipping. And you're better off just being yourself, even if that means you're a horrible dresser like myself or. You don't always have the softest way of responding to things because you're brutally honest sometimes. But, but in fairness, I'm brutally honest with myself. Like, I'm the first guy. And you've seen it where I'll come back from a show and they'll be like, great job. I was like, I don't know what show you watched.

Interviewer (36:20)

Yeah.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (36:21)

You know, like, you, if you, if you bullshitting yourself, you. You're screwed anyways. But I think just being brutally honest with myself, it has been beneficial to my career, and my time here has been really. It's been special because it's forced me to really think outside the box.

Interviewer (36:40)

Yeah. So, I mean, looking at your journey, it's fantastic what you've been through, and I really wanted to sit down with you and ask you questions. I think everybody at Fox has their own journey, and it's very interesting to see how everybody gets in and who they met and who had this conversation. But I do have one last question for you. Okay. Could we ever.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (37:00)

Oh, boy.

Interviewer (37:01)

See Tyrus make a run for President of the United States?

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (37:06)

No, but for one reason. The suit thing. I, I would, I would.

Interviewer (37:13)

I mean, look at John Fetterman. You could be the next.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (37:15)

Look at John Fetterman. John Fetterman doesn't dress like me. John Fetterman.

Interviewer (37:18)

America, do you want to see Tyrus run for president? Of the United States? I think. Yes.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (37:22)

No, the team does put on social

Interviewer (37:25)

media tyres for President 2028.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (37:28)

No, I just put it on the board. The Fetterman, he wears baggy sweats all day. Like, there's no comparison.

Interviewer (37:34)

You wear yoga pants.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (37:35)

I've never worn yoga pants day in my life. And this is why I don't do interviews with you. Like, you had a good interview and then you wanted your timing and you. We're not all comedians. We're just not you guys.

Interviewer (37:46)

That makes two of us.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (37:47)

In your lane. Yeah. Mike, you want to. You sure about that?

Interviewer (37:52)

Yeah.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (37:52)

Well, are you sure about that?

Interviewer (37:53)

I think one of us.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (37:54)

Because this is the last time you're gonna be in front of the camera.

Interviewer (37:56)

I think one of us is a comedian.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (37:57)

Yeah. Okay. But, yeah, Tyrus, I got a bank account that says very differently.

Interviewer (38:01)

Really, really great to hear more about it. Yeah, I think it was great. I think people really do listen to you. They turn on the channel because they don't want to listen to the news every day. They don't want to listen to the headlines that are being regurgitated. They want to listen to a guy that they can relate to, that they can sit there and say, you know what? Tyrus is speaking my mind. And I think that's why people love you and why you've had such a successful career at Fox. And hopefully it just continues. Yeah, not done yet.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (38:27)

You gotta wait a little while if you take over.

Interviewer (38:28)

Yeah. Well, Tyrus, been a pleasure.

Tyrus (George Murdoch) (38:31)

Yeah, we're not gonna shake hands on this one.

Interviewer (38:32)

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