Pod Force One – BONUS CONTENT: BILL O'REILLY NO SPIN NEWS
Episode Date: October 10, 2025
Featured Segments: President Trump vs. Blue States, Takeaways from AG Pam Bondi's Senate Hearing, Tim Graham Reacts to a Major Shakeup in Liberal Media
Host: Bill O’Reilly (with news excerpts and guest Tim Graham)
Episode Overview
This episode of Bill O’Reilly’s “No Spin News,” featured as bonus content on Pod Force One, delivers a deep-dive into current political flashpoints: the constitutional clash between President Trump and blue states over immigration enforcement, insights from AG Pam Bondi’s contentious Senate testimony, and the media upheaval surrounding Bari Weiss’s new leadership role at CBS News. The tone is candid, combative, and intensely critical of mainstream media and progressive policies, aiming for an "unvarnished" look at the people and decisions shaping America’s political future.
Main Themes and Discussion Points
1. Constitutional Showdown: Trump Administration vs. Blue States on Immigration
(Segment: 00:46–16:58)
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O’Reilly’s Framing
O’Reilly opens with concern about media honesty and the “falling apart” of the press as a truth-telling institution, blaming corporate interests and the spread of propaganda.- Quote: “We’re all being deceived ... propaganda and ideology now dominates, not facts.” (01:05, Bill O’Reilly)
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Historical Context for Current Immigration Law
- The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 is still in effect (over 70 years old), with no substantial Congressional update since its passage.
- President Truman vetoed the law for its quota system, but Congress overrode the veto.
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Biden Administration’s Actions
- O’Reilly accuses President Biden of refusing to enforce the 1952 law, particularly regarding the requirement that asylum seekers apply at a port of entry.
- Criticizes “catch and release” and alleges 15 million undocumented people entered under Biden.
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Trump’s “Expedited Removal” Policy
- Trump’s administration, via executive order, began "expedited removal" of undocumented migrants without needing a judge’s order; O'Reilly notes this diverges from past practices and will likely be decided by the Supreme Court.
- Quote: “Expedited removal is, we catch you, you’re gone. You don't need a judge signing a deportation order.” (07:42, Bill O’Reilly)
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Blue States’ Resistance
- States like Illinois, California, New York, Oregon, and Massachusetts refuse to cooperate with federal enforcement.
- O'Reilly cites U.S. Code 18, Section 1505, asserting it's a federal crime to hinder investigations.
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Chicago ICE Incident Example
- Recent protest in Chicago where local police reportedly were ordered not to assist ICE agents, which O’Reilly describes as a federal crime by police leadership.
- Plays dispatcher audio and critiques statements by Police Chief Larry Snelling, accusing him of dishonesty.
- Quote (regarding Snelling): “Snelling’s not telling the truth. Obviously, the tape contradicts him ... You’re looking like you’re not an honest man.” (11:27, Bill O’Reilly)
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Precedent: Robert F. Kennedy and National Guard in Alabama
- O’Reilly draws parallels to federal authority during the Civil Rights era, reading from a 1963 memo to argue that presidents can use federal power when states obstruct justice.
- Predicts the Supreme Court will affirm Trump’s authority to enforce immigration law, expecting a 5–4 or 6–3 decision for Trump.
- Quote: “That is justification for what Donald Trump is doing right now.” (14:51, Bill O’Reilly)
2. Senate Judiciary Hearing: Attorney General Pam Bondi
(Segment: 16:59–17:22)
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Exchange with Sen. Dick Durbin
- Senator Durbin questions the rationale for deploying Texas National Guard to Illinois; Bondi gives a pointed, combative answer, turning the topic to Durbin’s role in government funding and suggesting Trump will protect Illinoisans if local leaders will not.
- Quote (Pam Bondi): “I wish you loved Chicago as much as you hate President Trump. And currently, the National Guard are on the way to Chicago. If you’re not going to protect your citizens, President Trump will.” (17:13)
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O’Reilly’s Commentary
- Critiques Bondi for attacking Durbin rather than explaining the legal rationale, wishing for a more methodical response.
3. Trump’s State-by-State Approval Ratings
(Segment: 17:23–20:54)
- Summary of Data
- O’Reilly reads Trump’s job approval numbers by state (from World Population Review), highlighting stark divisions (highest: Wyoming 69%; lowest: Hawaii and Vermont 26%).
- Comments on polarization and close numbers in swing states like Georgia and North Carolina.
- Quote: “So you can see, we are a divided country. No doubt about it.” (20:38)
4. Migrant Crime and “Kate’s Law”
(Segment: 20:55–22:38)
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Case Example: Roberto Salorino
- Mexican national with four DUIs, accused of six counts of murder in California after re-entering the U.S. post-deportation.
- O’Reilly ties this to failures to enact “Kate’s Law,” which would impose mandatory minimum sentences on criminals re-entering the U.S. illegally.
- Quote: “Kate’s Law. Boy, it makes me mad.” (22:27, Bill O’Reilly)
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Additional Note on Marijuana and Traffic Accidents
- Cites study revealing 40% of fatalities in traffic accidents involve drivers high on marijuana; uses this to criticize legalization efforts.
5. Major Shakeup at CBS News: Bari Weiss Takes Over
(Segment: 22:39–29:42)
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Introducing Bari Weiss’s CBS Role
- Weiss, formerly of the New York Times and founder of The Free Press, is now Editor in Chief at CBS News under new Paramount/Skydance ownership.
- Her agenda is to foster a greater diversity of viewpoints and provide equal scrutiny of political parties.
- Quote (Tim Graham): “Both of those are extremely opposed to what we generally see on CBS ... those are two of the most aggressively tilted shows.” (24:13)
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Tim Graham’s Analysis (Guest, News Busters):
- Sees potential for some moderation at CBS but is skeptical about legacy shows like “60 Minutes.”
- O’Reilly notes he was previously refused airtime by “CBS Sunday Morning,” a program he calls “hardcore leftist.”
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Industry Impact and Media Shift
- O’Reilly and Graham doubt NBC or ABC will follow CBS toward greater evenness; expect MSNBC to remain polarized or worsen.
- Discussion about the collapse of cable network audiences, with young people abandoning traditional TV.
- Quote (O’Reilly): “My urchins haven’t watched a network show in years.” (29:45)
6. Final Thoughts: National Anxiety and Calls for Restraint
(Segment: 29:43–33:09)
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Public Concerns
- O’Reilly discusses widespread anxiety about high prices and the possibility of civil discord related to immigration.
- Asserts that most Americans support law and order but cautions against heavy-handed enforcement that could cause backlash.
- Distinguishes current immigration protests from the George Floyd riots, claiming most demonstrators are “paid, professional, radical, progressive crew.”
- Quote: “Not in any danger of a civil war. That’s not what’s happening here.” (32:28)
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Supreme Court’s Role
- Emphasizes the necessity for the Supreme Court to resolve foundational questions about federal authority and immigration law.
Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)
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“We’re all being deceived ... propaganda and ideology now dominates, not facts.”
— Bill O’Reilly, 01:05 -
“Expedited removal is, we catch you, you're gone. You don't need a judge signing a deportation order.”
— Bill O’Reilly, 07:42 -
“You’re looking like you’re not an honest man.”
—Bill O’Reilly addressing Chicago Police Chief Larry Snelling, 11:27 -
“I wish you loved Chicago as much as you hate President Trump ... President Trump will [protect you].”
—AG Pam Bondi, 17:13 -
“That is justification for what Donald Trump is doing right now.”
— Bill O’Reilly, on the RFK memo and federalizing the Guard, 14:51 -
“Kate’s Law. Boy, it makes me mad.”
— Bill O’Reilly, 22:27 -
“So you can see, we are a divided country. No doubt about it.”
— Bill O’Reilly, 20:38 -
“Both of those [Weiss's goals] are extremely opposed to what we generally see on CBS ... those are two of the most aggressively tilted shows.”
— Tim Graham, 24:13 -
“My urchins haven’t watched a network show in years.”
— Bill O’Reilly, 29:45 -
“Not in any danger of a civil war. That’s not what’s happening here.”
— Bill O’Reilly, 32:28
Key Takeaways
- O’Reilly delivers an unapologetically opinionated, law-focused analysis of escalating tensions between the Trump administration and blue states over immigration enforcement, predicting Supreme Court intervention will back the federal government's authority.
- AG Pam Bondi is fiercely partisan in Senate hearings; O’Reilly wishes for more rigor and less rhetoric.
- Polling data shows deepening political divides at the state level, with Trump’s popularity sharply split.
- Issues of media bias dominate the latter half, with Bari Weiss's CBS role seen as a possible turning point — though skepticism remains about wider industry shifts.
- O’Reilly closes with an assurance that fears of civil war are overblown, attributing unrest primarily to coordinated activist efforts rather than grassroots outrage, and reiterates the necessity of judicial clarification.
Segment Timestamps
- [00:46–16:58] Trump/Blue States Constitutional Showdown and Immigration Law
- [16:59–17:22] AG Pam Bondi’s Senate Judiciary Hearing Exchange
- [17:23–20:54] State-by-State Trump Approval Ratings
- [20:55–22:38] Migrant Crime/Kate’s Law Commentary and Marijuana Legalization Critique
- [22:39–29:42] Bari Weiss at CBS News — Media Shakeup with Tim Graham
- [29:43–33:09] Final Thoughts: Public Anxiety, Civil Unrest, and Supreme Court’s Role
For listeners seeking sharp, law-and-order commentary, this episode offers a bracing, polemical perspective on the battle lines across American politics and media in late 2025.
