BONUS CONTENT: The Fox News Rundown for Thursday September 25, 2025: Trey Gowdy On 'America's Culture Of Violence'

Summary

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Pod Force One Bonus: The Fox News Rundown – September 25, 2025

Main Theme:
A deep dive into America’s ongoing culture of violence, the impact of heated rhetoric, the boundaries of free speech in politics and media, and the shifting winds in U.S. energy policy. Featuring candid conversations with former Congressman and Fox News host Trey Gowdy, Dallas Mayor Eric Johnson, and an interview with Energy Secretary Chris Wright.

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Main Discussion Topics & Insights

1. America’s Culture of Violence

Segment: [00:30]–[06:47]

• Recent Tragedy in Dallas:

  • Another deadly shooting occurred at a Dallas immigration enforcement facility, resulting in several deaths including the shooter.
  • Shooter left casings with anti-ICE messages; officers were unharmed.

  Notable Quote:

  "Something is driving this culture of violence that we have in the United States. I'm not a sociologist. I cannot explain it. I can just tell you that people of good conscience are left to pick up the pieces."
  — Dana Perino [00:43] & Trey Gowdy [03:02 and 05:17]

• Rhetoric and Its Impact:

  • Politicians urge a halt to the demonization of law enforcement, ICE, and CBP.
  • Repeated reference to "Defund the Police" and “Defund ICE” movements, attributed to progressive politicians as contributing factors.

  Notable Exchange:

  "To every politician who is using rhetoric demonizing ICE and demonizing CBP, stop. To every politician demanding that ICE agents be doxxed and calling for people to go after their families, stop."
  — Dana Perino & Brian Kilmeade [02:20–02:37]

• Detention Facility Security:

  • Parallel drawn between court and law enforcement facility security and the need for increased protection in light of ongoing threats.
  • Noteworthy mention of previous attacks, including those on President Trump and other public figures.

  Notable Quote:

  "When you live in a free society, there are opportunities for bad actors to act. Whether it’s a rooftop, whether it’s a drive by shooting... I don’t want to turn [schools] into morgues either."
  — Trey Gowdy [05:17]

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2. The Power and Peril of Words

Segment: [06:47]–[09:27]

• Jimmy Kimmel’s Return and Media Responsibility:

  • Discussion of late-night host Jimmy Kimmel’s suspension and subsequent return, following comments tying Charlie Kirk’s assassin to the political right.
  • Trey Gowdy and the panel question Kimmel's sincerity in his apology, highlight perceived double standards and media partisanship.

  Notable Quote:

  "I do find it ironic that Jimmy Kimmel gets his feelings hurt because Donald Trump wanted him fired when Jimmy Kimmel spent eight years trying to either get Donald Trump fired, impeached, or not rehired... But Jimmy Kimmel fails to see the duplicity of him spending all of his time attacking the right."
  — Trey Gowdy [08:03]

• Free Speech and Private Media:

  • Clarifies that the First Amendment restricts government action, not private companies.
  • ABC (Kimmel’s network) and Fox reserve rights to hire/fire talent as they see fit.

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3. Free Speech, Social Media, and Government Influence

Segment: [11:06]–[14:26]

• Google/YouTube Reinstatements:

  • Recent moves by Google to reinstate banned YouTube accounts after government (Biden administration) pressure is scrutinized.
  • Debate over social media responsibility and the dangers of spreading provable falsehoods.

  Notable Quote:

  "When Biden does call you and put pressure on you, the First Amendment is implicated because that is government action. ...We’ve chosen freedom over truth."
  — Trey Gowdy [11:38]

• Fact-Checking and Personal Responsibility:

  • Skepticism towards fact-checkers’ objectivity; emphasis on citizen’s responsibility to cross-examine information.
  • Gowdy stresses the philosophical difference between prioritizing freedom and prioritizing truth.

  Notable Quote:

  "There is no way to police inaccuracy except in our own well of souls to say, look, quote the good book, you shall know the truth, the truth shall set you free. The truth comes before the freedom."
  — Trey Gowdy [13:05]

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4. U.S. Energy Policy and Geopolitics

Segment: [15:06]–[23:29]

• Trump Administration’s Energy Direction:

  • President Trump’s open rejection of climate change initiatives; prioritization of oil, gas, and nuclear energy over renewables.
  • Energy Secretary Chris Wright outlines the administration’s “all-in” approach on affordable energy, AI growth, and industrial resurgence.

  Key Point:

  "Our overriding goal: drive down prices for Americans, grow our energy production so we can re-industrialize our nation and we can lead the world in AI."
  — Chris Wright [16:10]

• Wind, Solar & Nuclear:

  • End to subsidies for wind and solar—"let the market decide."
  • Government support for nuclear power is deemed necessary to restart the industry.
  • Europe’s weaning off Russian energy is positioned as an opportunity for U.S. exports.

  Notable Moments:

  "Solar can compete in the marketplace.. I don’t think you have a wind industry without massive subsidies."
  — Chris Wright [18:34]

  "We’re all in, in getting nuclear going... about 10 test reactors, as quickly as possible, in a test setting and I think shovels in the ground for new nuclear reactor plants... within the next 12 months."
  — Chris Wright [21:13]

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5. Final Commentary: Political Satire, Polarization, and Free Speech

Segment: [24:02]–[28:08]

• Ben Domenech Commentary:

  • Satire around Jimmy Kimmel’s suspension as a “national nightmare.”
  • Critical reflection on media bias, the politicization of violence, and the increasing polarization of public reactions to political assassinations and attempts.
  • Points to increased public clarity about “who hates them,” suggesting a dangerous but honest new level of political division in America.

  Notable Quote:

  "We are so far beyond the period that we were in a year ago when the reaction generally... was that [assassination attempts] was a bad thing... Instead now I think that they are actually bang for it. They are calling for more blood."
  — Ben Domenech [26:15]

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Memorable Quotes & Attributions (with Timestamps)

• On the shooting & violence:

  "People of good conscience are left to pick up the pieces."
  – Dana Perino [00:43], echoed by Trey Gowdy [03:02, 05:17]

• On political rhetoric:

  "Stop. To every politician demanding that ICE agents be doxxed and calling for people to… go after their families. Stop. This has very real consequences."
  — Dana Perino & Brian Kilmeade [02:20–02:39]

• On free speech vs. consequences:

  "The First Amendment does not apply to private businesses, period."
  — Trey Gowdy [09:48]

• On media and bias:

  "Funny comedians, everybody is a fair target. But these late night hosts we have now... they're all just extensions of the progressive wing of the Democrat Party."
  — Trey Gowdy [08:03]

• On freedom, truth, and misinformation:

  "We’ve chosen freedom over truth... Me being able to repeat demonstrably false things does not benefit the Republic."
  — Trey Gowdy [11:38, 13:05]

• On energy policy:

  "President Trump got elected to reverse the Biden administration policies... Americans got mad. President Trump said, I'm going to reverse that. And he got elected on that platform and he's carrying it out."
  — Chris Wright [16:47]

• On nuclear energy’s future:

  "We are all in, in getting nuclear going... shovels in the ground in the next 12 months."
  — Chris Wright [21:13, 23:18]

• On polarization and media spectacle:

  "We are so far beyond the period... when the reaction... was that [assassination attempts] was a bad thing... Instead now... they are calling for more blood."
  — Ben Domenech [26:15]

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Notable Segment Timestamps

• Dallas shooting and responses: [00:30]–[05:17]
• Political rhetoric and violence: [02:20]–[05:17]
• Jimmy Kimmel/Media, and Free Speech: [06:47]–[14:26]
• US & Global Energy Policy (Sec. Wright): [15:06]–[23:29]
• Ben Domenech commentary: [24:02]–[28:08]

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Summary

This episode centered on the escalation of political violence in the U.S., its links to political and media rhetoric, and the challenge of preserving free speech without enabling misinformation. Trey Gowdy warns of a deepening culture of violence, often inflamed by politicized language against law enforcement. The discussion moves through the responsibilities of media figures, illustrated by the Jimmy Kimmel controversy, and the realities of constitutional free speech. Finally, the show pivots to a wide-ranging interview with Energy Secretary Chris Wright, mapping out Trump’s aggressive shift toward traditional energy sources and efforts to position the U.S. as Europe’s main supplier in a post-Russian-energy landscape. Ben Domenech’s closing monologue laments the collapse of shared norms around violence and debate, satirizing current media narratives and warning of a dangerous but clarifying polarization in America’s civic life.

Transcript

[Dana Perino]

Hi, this is Caitlin Becker, host of the NY Postcast, dropping into my friend and colleague Miranda Devine's feed to introduce you to the FOX News rundown. Every day they delve into the stories and issues that matter to you. Featuring conversations with top newsmakers, trusted journalists and the Fox News personalities you rely on. Get the analysis and insights you expect from FOX News. I'm Dana Perino.

[Brian Kilmeade]

I'm Brian Kilmeade. I'm Shannon Bream.

[Dana Perino]

And this is the FOX News rundown.

[Dave Anthony]

Thursday, September, September 25, 2025. I'm Dave Anthony. More calls for prayer and more calls to tone down political rhetoric after another deadly shooting.

[Dana Perino]

Something is driving this culture of violence that we have in the United States. I'm not a sociologist. I cannot explain it. I can just tell you that people of good conscience are left to pick up the pieces.

[Jared Halpern]

I'm Jared Halpern. President Trump tells Europe to wean itself off Russian energy.

[Brian Kilmeade]

We can do it tomorrow. We have the energy. It's easy for us to scale up our production. We've already scaled up our export capacity. We want to supply energy to our allies, get them off relying on their foes and starve the Russian war machine.

[Jared Halpern]

We speak with Energy Secretary Chris Wright.

[Ben Domenech]

And I'm Ben Domenech. I've got the final word on the Fox News rundown.

[Dave Anthony]

Yet another deadly shooting from yet another rooftop in yet another scene of political violence, this time in Dallas, Texas.

[Brian Kilmeade]

It's a scary time. I've got children. I've got three young children. And I'm here to tell you that it is challenging to explain to them.

[Ben Domenech]

What'S going on in our country right now.

[Dave Anthony]

That's Dallas Mayor Eric Johnson after a shooter opened fire at an immigration enforcement facility, hitting three ICE detainees. Then he turned the gun on himself and he's among the dead.

[Ben Domenech]

I believe in the power of prayer to change things and it can change the hearts of people.

[Dave Anthony]

No immigration agents were injured in the attack.

[Dana Perino]

This is the third shooting in Texas directed at ICE or cbp.

[Dave Anthony]

Republican Senator Ted Cruz referencing Customs and Border Patrol.

[Dana Perino]

To every politician who is using rhetoric.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Demonizing ICE and demonizing cbp.

[Dana Perino]

Stop. To every politician demanding that ICE agents be doxxed and calling for people to.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Go after their families.

[Dana Perino]

Stop.

[Brian Kilmeade]

This has very real consequences.

[Dave Anthony]

Shell casings found at the scene had anti ICE messages written on them.

[Dana Perino]

It is hard for rational people to process that.

[Dave Anthony]

Trey Gowdy was a Republican in Congress. He's also a former federal prosecutor. He now hosts Sunday Night in America on the Fox News Channel. At 7pm Eastern. You can also hear him on the Trey Gowdy podcast.

[Dana Perino]

We're left again with no prosecution, searching for answers and searching for a way out of this slew of violent rhetoric that we hear that leads irrational people to commit acts of violence. Rational people don't do these kinds of shootings.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Right.

[Dave Anthony]

But of course, there are. People have been, have been saying, well, where they're being whipped up by the protests and the anger over immigration raids. But those protests, if they're peaceful, that's also part of our society, right? Against what the Trump agenda is.

[Dana Perino]

There is not a protest in the world that can motivate me or you to go commit an active violence against someone. Now, I don't care what they said. I don't care what they did. Now, we also have to be mindful that there are irrational people among us. And they, they are. I mean, the law itself says that words are never sufficient provocation. I mean, that's codified in our law. But we also have to be mindful it does have an impact on people who are prone to irrationality or prone to excessive provocation. So go back and look at how law enforcement has been talked about, not just for the past 12 months, but in some instances for decades. They're demonized, they're vilified. There was a movement to defund them. It used to be that law enforcement were among the most highly respected professions in our country, and they still are among many of us. But look, there's a concerted effort by some. I mean, defund ice. I mean, whose idea was that? That was House Democrats defund the police. Whose idea was that? Hire more social workers. Whose idea was that? I mean, all those ideas are coming from the left. Progressive prosecutors who never met a crime they wanted to actually prosecute. Those ideas are not coming from the right, they're coming from the left.

[Dave Anthony]

It happened on a rooftop. Again, we're only, you know, two weeks in a day now past what happened at Utah Valley University and the assassination of Charlie Kirk and Senator Cruz referenced that, talking about what happened in Dallas, we had, of course, it was a rooftop in the Butler, Pennsylvania assassination attempt last year for President Trump.

[Dana Perino]

Yes. You would think that anywhere the President of the United States was going to be, would not be a soft target. I mean, you've got. I think what it goes to show, regrettably, is that when you live in a free society, there are opportunities for bad actors to act. Whether it's a rooftop, whether it's a drive by shooting, I mean, there's Always a conversation after schools that we don't want to turn schools into prisons. That's fine. I don't want to turn them into morgues either. And if you give me the option between kids going to prison school or prison or winding up in a morgue, I'm going to pick a very, very secure, overly protected environment. And so what I think you're going to see is these detention facilities, all ICE facilities, treated more like federal courthouses. I mean, you and I couldn't get in a federal courthouse right now. We'd have to show an appointment and explain why we wanted to be there. And there's a reason that judges are walked to their car by marshals. And there's a reason that we have an entire protective service to protect judges. And even then, even then, we had a lawyer show up at a judge's house, execute her son, and very nearly kill her husband. So something is driving this culture of violence that we have in the United States. I'm not a sociologist. I cannot explain it. I can just tell you that people of good conscience are left to pick up the pieces.

[Dave Anthony]

All right, we talked about words. Let's get to Jimmy Kimmel, his return to television and what he said on Tuesday night. It was never my intention to make.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Light of the murder of a young man.

[Dave Anthony]

And he said he never intended to blame any specific group for the actions of a disturbed individual. When he was suspended last week, he suggested that Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin was right wing maga. He said this. I don't think the murderer who shot Charlie Kirk represents anyone. This was a sick person who believed.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Violence was a solution, and it isn't.

[Dave Anthony]

Now, Jimmy Kimmel also got emotionally, was deeply touched, he said, when Kirk's widow, Erica, forgave the suspected killer at Sunday's memorial. But I want you to hear also what he said. He spoke out against his suspension and for free speech, and he got a standing ovation for saying this.

[Brian Kilmeade]

The President of the United States made.

[Dave Anthony]

It very clear he wants to see me and the hundreds of people who.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Work here fired from our jobs.

[Dave Anthony]

Our leader celebrates Americans losing their livelihoods because he can't take a joke. All right, Trey, what do you think of the return?

[Dana Perino]

God, it's hard to know where to start. Well, first of all, I didn't hear a joke anywhere in what Jimmy Kimmel said before he was suspended. There were no jokes there. I do find it ironic that Jimmy Kimmel gets his feelings hurt because Donald Trump wanted him fired when Jimmy Kimmel spent eight years trying to either Get Donald Trump fired, impeached, or not rehired. So I do initially note the irony of that. I don't know another person's heart. I can't tell whether the contrition was real. No one can tell whether remorse is real or not. I just wonder where was that attitude before he popped off at the mouth and got it so and terribly wrong? I mean, I think, forgive me for being cynical, it was never his intention to be suspended. I believe that. But I think if he had not been suspended, we would not have heard any word of remorse. No apology, no nothing. He was defiant until he was suspended. But Jimmy Kimmel fails to see the duplicity of him spending all of his time attacking the right. When's the last time he told a joke on the left? I mean, funny comedians, everybody is a fair target. But these late night hosts we have now, with the exception of Gutfeld and maybe one other periodically, they're all just extensions of the progressive wing of the Democrat Party.

[Dave Anthony]

But that's okay, isn't it? I mean, they're allowed to do that or not. President Trump in a truth social post, he said he couldn't believe Kimmel got his job back. He said he's not funny. And he said that it's 99% Democrat garbage. And then he seemed to, he suggested that that could be a major illegal campaign contribution for Democrats, the show itself, that could he sue? Could anybody do that?

[Dana Perino]

No. I mean, that's an FEC matter because then Democrats are going to turn around and say, well, Sean Hannity doesn't have us on enough or Jesse Waters doesn't have us on enough. I mean, no, look, the First Amendment does not apply to private businesses, period. New paragraph. The first. The First Amendment applies to government. Where it does get interesting is when the FCC or any governmental entity begins to look into content based speech. But Donald Trump as a private citizen, on his own Twitter account can express whatever opinion he wants to. He can call a bat, an officiating call bad in an NFL football game. He can say Jimmy Kimmel's not funny. He, he can turn off abc, which is what I suspect some people will do, or maybe they will turn it back on, who knows? But you can vote with your clicker. The First Amendment just, just ABC can hire and fire who they want to, just like Fox can. I'm not, I don't have a First Amendment right to a show on Fox and I can't say whatever I want to say on that show. I've got a contract and I got to follow that contract or else I won't be on air. So people conflate the First Amendment with I can say whatever I want without consequence. It doesn't work that way.

[Dave Anthony]

Now, I want to get to one more thing. When it comes to speech, what happened with Google on Tuesday? It vowed to offer YouTube accounts that had been banned over political speech to be reinstated. And it said that it had faced pressure from the Biden administration to remove content about COVID specifically. And there were some podcast hosts and such that were banned over what they had posted about the virus and the politics around it all. What do you think about that?

[Dana Perino]

Here's the thing. Meta X, Instagram, TikTok, those are private entities. The First Amendment does not apply to them. What Jimmy Jordan's point was, if you're going to have rules of the road, you have to apply them fairly. And when Biden does call you and put pressure on you, the First Amendment is implicated because that is government action. So government action does implicate the First Amendment. What you ought to have is a way for us to vote with whether or not we want to participate in their platform. If we don't like Facebook or whatever they call themselves now, get off, don't advertise on there. Here's my other point, and I'm in the minority here. I don't know the benefit of repeating something that is demonstrably false. And I asked the head, the head lawyers of all these social media groups when I was in Congress, I said, today happens to be Tuesday. How does it benefit our republic for me to say it's Thursday? I mean, honestly, how does it benefit the republic for me to be demonstrably, provably wrong? And not a single one of these allegedly smart lawyers had a answer for that. How do we deal with that? We've chosen freedom over truth.

[Dave Anthony]

Well, how does information get changed, policed? It's hard to have fact checkers on every post online.

[Dana Perino]

Well, even the fact checker, Even the fact checkers have a bias, right? So even the decision on what stories to cover and not cover has inherent bias in it. What I think we have to do as citizens is prioritize the truth. And we have to use the same tools that lawyers use, which is cross examine what we read. I had a guy stop me on the putting green the other day to ask me why Fox had banned Charlie Kirk from its airwaves. And I said, well, that's news to me. He co hosted Fox and Friends a month ago. Where did you get your information? Yeah, he told me where he Got it. It's a completely unreliable source. So the citizens themselves have a certain obligation to say, how do you know that? Is it true? How do you know that? And what are the limits of your knowledge? So there is no way to police inaccuracy except in our own well of souls to say, look, quote the good book, you shall know the truth, the truth shall set you free. The truth comes before the freedom. In our country, we chose the freedom because we thought it might lead to the truth in the Bible. They chose the truth because it would lead to freedom. I think, look, we're going to leave the Constitution where it is. But me being able to repeat demonstrably false things does not benefit the Republic.

[Dave Anthony]

Trey Gowdy has Sunday Night in America on FOX News Channel. You can watch at 7pm Eastern time. You can also hear the Trey Gowdy podcast. Former congressman from South Carolina. We glad to have you back on the show. Thanks for joining us.

[Dana Perino]

Yes, sir. I love being with you. Thank you for having me. It is time to take the quiz.

[Brian Kilmeade]

It's five questions in less than five minutes. We asked people on the streets of New York City to play along. Let's see how you do. Take the quiz every day @thequiz fox.

[Dana Perino]

Then come back here to see how you did.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Thank you for taking the quiz.

[Ben Domenech]

This is Ben Domenech with your FOX News commentary.

[Jared Halpern]

Coming up, if you don't get away from green energy, your country is going to fail. That was President Trump's warning to the world this week at the United Nations General Assembly. He he called climate change the greatest con job ever perpetrated on the world and assailed clean energy like wind and solar power.

[Dana Perino]

The carbon footprint is a hoax made up by people with evil intentions and they're heading down a path of total destruction.

[Jared Halpern]

President Trump withdrew the US from the Paris climate Agreement on his first day in office. That agreement among more than 100 nations is a pledge to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. The Trump administration is also stripping free funding and federal approval for wind and solar projects, preferring instead natural gas, coal and nuclear plants.

[Brian Kilmeade]

The last administration certainly was not all of the above. And this one really isn't either in that we're not for anything that's going to make energy more expensive and less reliable.

[Jared Halpern]

Chris Wright is the U.S. energy secretary.

[Brian Kilmeade]

This is an all in administration on energy and honesty about climate change. Our overriding goal, drive down prices for Americans, grow our energy production so we can re industrialize our nation and we can lead the world in AI. And that takes intelligent decisions not Just throw money everywhere.

[Jared Halpern]

How do you manage the amount of energy that is going to be needed for AI? And I think everybody realizes that the energy surge that that's going to take with real concerns about the environment and greenhouse gases and things like that. Can the two of them kind of be managed together?

[Brian Kilmeade]

Oh, absolutely, absolutely. Look, by far the largest source of electricity in the United States is natural gas. It's also by far the largest driver of the reduction in U.S. greenhouse gas emissions because it's been out competing coal. It's also led to cleaner air, less pollutants, because it's just a very simple molecule. You just get water vapor and CO2 coming out the stack. But President Trump got elected to reverse the Biden administration policies, which was to close all the power plants, or as many as they could that produce electricity all the time and replace them with things that sometimes produce electricity. A guaranteed way to raise electricity prices. It did. Americans got mad. President Trump said, I'm going to reverse that. And he got elected on that platform and he's carrying it out.

[Jared Halpern]

But how is that different than kind of the halting of other energy projects, especially wind projects that the President has called for? Why not have everything running well?

[Brian Kilmeade]

We've seen where that leads. Look, the leaders in offshore wind, Denmark, Germany and the United Kingdom all lead the world in the most expensive electricity, two to three times more expensive than in the United States. California was our first mover on wind and solar. It's the most expensive electricity in our country. So his goal is to lower energy costs any way he can get there, any technology that'll lower our cost and increase our electricity production so we can lead in AI and re industrialize our nation, that's the agenda.

[Jared Halpern]

I think there is some confusion on that. Right. Because when we see that the President and the administration wants to kind of cancel some of these projects, does that mean that the President does not want to see any offshore or solar energy projects? Or he just doesn't want the government contributing to that, doesn't want subsidies or investments in that?

[Brian Kilmeade]

Exactly.

[Jared Halpern]

A difference.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, there is a difference. You're right. His dominant position is we got to finally end these subsidies. That's the big change in position. Solar can compete in the marketplace. People are going to keep building solar, you'll see solar, keep building wind. I don't think you have a wind industry without massive subsidies. And certainly you don't have an offshore wind industry. Offshore wind is more complicated because it's more expensive than onshore wind, and it has big impacts on coastal communities. On whales, on fisheries. So look, there's been huge opposition to that. The administration is engaging with both sides and both parties and finding out the right answer for under construction projects. Certainly no new ones will be permitted, but without subsidies, no one would file a permit.

[Jared Halpern]

Let me ask about Russia. The president calling on NATO countries calling on Europe to wean themselves off completely cut themselves off of Russian energy. Can the United States produce enough energy at the right price point to make up for what Europe needs?

[Brian Kilmeade]

Absolutely. And that was the central message of my trip to Europe. You know, I was there six days, you know, in Milan, in Brussels, in Vienna, met with European leaders everywhere. They are weaning themselves off. They have a plan to do it in about another 21 months. We're saying we can do it tomorrow. We have the energy. It's easy for us to scale up our production. We've already scaled up our export capacity. We want to supply energy to our allies and get them off relying on their foes and starve the Russian war machine. I think that's the way forward to both bring peace and to bring economic and national security to Europe.

[Jared Halpern]

Is it going to be more expensive for Europe, though? I mean, one of the reasons they use Russian oil, right, is it's much quicker to transport, much cheaper to transport, right?

[Brian Kilmeade]

Well, they're a pariah state. So they've got to sell at a discount to get people to buy their products. So, yes, it'll be a little bit more expensive. But if you buy American natural gas in volume, shipped over on LNG tankers and you built power plants to turn that into electricity, you could meaningfully lower European electricity prices. And you can bring industry back to Europe and you can bring AI to Europe. So a lot of interest in that. I think the European interest to not just replace Russian gas, but to grow their economies using Russian energy. Huge interest in that idea. I think you're going to see it happen. That's President Trump. He changes the pivot, changes the direction things were headed. We were going to a more expensive, no economic growth trajectory in Europe. He's going to pivot that together with the Europeans to a more prosperous, more affordable future for Europeans and Americans.

[Jared Halpern]

Are you expecting to approve permits for nuclear power plants?

[Brian Kilmeade]

Absolutely. We are all in, in getting nuclear going. In fact, we already have groundbreaking in Idaho at our Idaho national lab for test reactors. We're going to have about 10 test reactors of these new next generation reactors built as quickly as possible in a test setting and I think shovels in the ground for new nuclear reactor plants. That will go on the electricity grid within the next 12 months. Very excited to see that move quickly.

[Jared Halpern]

What do you say to folks of a certain age who may still have memories of Three Mile Island? Obviously, the disaster that we saw in Ukraine, was it 40 years ago that that there are concerns about nuclear power plants?

[Brian Kilmeade]

Yeah, everything has trade offs but the track record of nuclear, the safest energy production technology we have, bar none. Three Mile island, you know, was more hyped into something more than the reality. It was a first generation reactor. It did have a meltdown. No radiation was released, no human health impacts. In fact, one of the two reactors there has continued to operate since that day. The other one I think will be reopened in the next year or two. So, yes, you've got to be smart about nuclear. Yes, we have to have a focus on safety. Yes, we have to be transparent to get the public behind it. But I think all of those are possible. Public support in the United States today for nuclear is pretty strong and it's becoming quite strong in Europe as well.

[Jared Halpern]

Is it an industry that is going to need some government help? Is the president prepared to allocate public funds, taxpayer dollars to help jumpstart some of these projects, whether they're nuclear or natural gas or oil?

[Brian Kilmeade]

Not for natural gas or oil. Marketplaces will drive that for nuclear. The government smothered that industry over the last few decades. So, yes, we are going to give helpful nudges to supplement private capital to get the nuclear industry and the supply chain back standing again and then it will move and compete in the marketplace. But yeah, it's going to take some government help on faster regulatory approvals, faster moving, some loan program support, I'm sure from the Department of Energy and a few other incentives that are built in to get those plants built as quickly as possible.

[Jared Halpern]

What is the timeline?

[Brian Kilmeade]

I think we'll see shovels in the ground in the next 12 months.

[Jared Halpern]

All right. Secretary Chris Wright, appreciate your time today. I know you've been traveling around. Hopefully you get some rest and appreciate your taking questions for us.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Thanks for having me on the show. It was great. Take care.

[Jared Halpern]

Thank you.

[Brian Kilmeade]

Foreign.

[Dana Perino]

It'S will taint country.

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Ladies and gentlemen, I'm happy to announce to you today that our long national nightmare is over. We almost had to go an entire week without seeing Jimmy Kimmel on abc. I know it's a nightmare that we'll all be remembering and thinking about for years to come. We will speak of it in terms that are most dire to future generations that we are related to. About such a horrible instance that happened when we almost lost free speech in America. And it was only our elite betters, those in Hollywood, those of us who had the moral fortitude to fight back and to demand that people cancel their Disney plus and Hulu subscriptions that were able to rescue America's greatest comic from the dustbin of history that fascists would like to see him reside in forever. Of course, Jimmy Kimmel ran afoul of the worst types of people in America, and those are of course Republicans, because he lied about them and said that the shooter and the in the Charlie Kirk assassination was one of them. That's the kind of thing that runs afoul of little known rules known to all of those who are on broadcast TV and of course at the fcc. And because of those rules, there were demands immediately that Kimmel step forward and apologize that he rolled back from the position that he had held. And that, you know, Even for Disney CEOs, the highest level of people who have to make determinations about the future of the company, this was something that put them in a weak position. It made them concerned about their actual bottom dollar. They know that they have a very thin line to run across in terms of not offending people because they need their money in order to succeed. These things are of course less important for people as principled as Jimmy Kimmel, who wanted to go out there and just, you know, put everything in perspective by blaming the people, the MAGA supporters more, saying that they were too dumb to understand what he was actually saying, and essentially doubling down on his claim. One which is of course in violation of pretty much everything that we know in the facts of the case goes against everything that we know about the shooter in the case. But that apparently Jimmy Kimmel had, in his own bubble, actually learned and believed as a member of the Hollywood left elite. In fact, he's actually not alone that. A YouGov poll shows that just 10% of Democrats in America believe that the shooter in this question was on the political left. Almost four times as much believe that he was on the political right. We are so far beyond the period that we were in a year ago when the reaction generally among many people who I saw, even those on the left, to the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, was that this was a bad thing, that it was something that we don't want to see in America, that the potential ramifications for us as a people in this country would be very bad. Instead now I think that they are actually bang for it. They're calling for more blood, they are calling for more violence, and they are calling for the moral justification in this case of saying that everything in going on today is a very dangerous and completely ahistorical time, one that justifies a level of pushback against fascism that includes buying guns and actually solving the problem from their perspective, namely shutting up the people who they can't beat in an argument, just as from their perspective they did with Charlie Kirk. Jimmy Kimmel is back on tv. Congratulations to him. He can continue doing his form of non comedy for as long as ABC is willing to pay him. But I think the American people understand what's really going on here. They understand who hates them and who doesn't to a clearer degree than they ever have before. That's a dangerous thing. It's a dangerous piece of knowledge. But it's also clarifying in a way, and it's more honest than we used to be. I'm Ben Domenech. You can hear my podcast the Big Ben show every Wednesday by going to fox newspodcast.com or wherever you get your podcasts.

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