Bruh Meets World...Meets World (Season 6 Recap)

Summary

Pod Meets World – “Bruh Meets World...Meets World (Season 6 Recap)”

iHeartPodcasts | August 28, 2025
With: Danielle Fishel, Rider Strong, Will Friedle
Guests: TC & Siege (Bruh Meets World)

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

This episode marks Pod Meets World’s annual tradition: the end-of-season recap with Bruh Meets World hosts, TC and Siege. Together, the panels dissected the tumultuous sixth season of Boy Meets World, exploring its themes, character arcs, behind-the-scenes realities, and the interplay between their two podcasts. Their honest, rollicking, and sometimes emotional conversation covers missteps, highlights, fan engagement, and the evolving legacy of both the show and their community.

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LIVE TOUR REFLECTIONS & COMMUNITY (03:49–12:46)

Key Points

• The Pod Meets World team recaps the emotional landmark of their "final" (for now) live show tour.
• Danielle, Will, and Ryder recall show highlights and unique audience interactions in various cities.
• They each express how fan engagement, through both live events and the podcast, has blurred the line between audience and cast, making the fans “a character in the canon.”

Memorable Moments

• Ryder: “It was also like wildly Emotional … it hit me in a very profound way.” (05:25)
• Will: “Somebody came to our live show dressed as my underwear.” (11:44)
• Danielle: “Pod Meets World has probably become the thing I’m most proud of in my career.” (11:34)

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SEASON SIX: CONFUSION & CRITIQUE (17:22–38:33)

General Consensus

• All hosts agree that Boy Meets World’s sixth season is disjointed and difficult to make sense of, with characters often regressing.
• The season’s main thematic intentions—transitioning to adulthood, the Cory/Topanga marriage arc—aren’t executed with cohesive story arcs or consistent character motivation.

Fan Podcast Insights

• TC: “Last time we were on … we had said, I think Season 6 is our least favorite season. … [Listening] just kind of justified what we thought more than ruined anything.” (20:43)
• Siege commends Pod Meets World for revealing behind-the-scenes insights, like network constraints or actor availability, that help explain narrative oddities.

Character-Specific Discussions

• Chet (Sean & Jack’s dad): Debate over whether Chet would have truly changed after his heart attack; consensus that his ghost’s selective presence for Sean is telling.
• Topanga: The character is fundamentally altered for season six, losing her quirky edge and individuality in favor of serving the marriage plot.
  • Will: “They just … went, yeah, we’re done with that. We’re going to make her completely … just every person out there.” (27:57)
  • Siege: “This season should be Cory actually becoming more comfortable with getting married while Topanga becomes less comfortable … All the pieces are there. Every episode just needed to be tweaked a little bit to get us there.” (36:49)
• Eric: Season six “breaks” the character, leaving him isolated and more outlandish, largely due to the never-realized spinoff.
  • Siege: “Eric is never the same … after the Tommy episode, Eric kind of cracks.” (42:26)
• Rachel & Jack: Underdeveloped and underserved, with the writers admitting they never figured out what to do with these characters.

Notable Quotes

• Danielle: “It seems like they discredited the audience … they won’t remember; we’ll just … make her anything.” (28:39)
• Ryder: “The anxieties were just … let’s illustrate different anxieties … but those problems weren’t based in Topanga and Cory.” (38:33)

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THEME & STRUCTURAL DEBATES (39:40–53:00)

Recurring Problems

• Relationships are used as easy “fixes” for trauma (Jack’s grief, Sean’s struggles, etc.), rather than exploring more substantive character growth.
• The college setting, once a strong narrative driver, is mostly abandoned midseason.
• Supporting family members, especially Alan and Amy, receive short shrift or have stories told mostly from male points of view.

Proposed Alternatives

• Several guests suggest ways the season could have had a clearer, richer throughline: focusing on Topanga’s perspective, giving Amy’s experience with late-in-life pregnancy its due, or exploring Feeny as a retired member of the gang.

Podcast Revelations

• The hosts acknowledge that aspects of their real lives (Ryder going to college, etc.) seeped into character writing, sometimes without their consent or comfort.
  • Ryder: “I wonder if our writers were like, what’s going on with Ryder? … Then they just wrote Sean like that.” (61:44)

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ACCOUNTABILITY & DIFFICULT DIALOGUE (73:29–80:38)

Fred Savage/MeToo Episode

• The POD and Bruh Meets World teams discuss the absence of commentary about Fred Savage’s MeToo allegations during the Stuart episode recap.
• Danielle (with support from Will and Ryder) reveals the team’s conscious choice, largely out of respect for Ben Savage’s family privacy, and acknowledges the complexity and limitations of their position.
  • Danielle: “Out of respect for Ben … I just didn’t want to add one more thing.” (78:32)
  • Siege: “Your voices are so important, specifically yours [Danielle], because we’ve seen this show through a very specific lens. … You add a voice that is needed.” (81:05)

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SUPERLATIVES, SILLY QUESTIONS & LOOKING AHEAD (82:54–98:36)

Season Six Superlatives (83:02)

• Favorite Episodes:
  • Ryder: “We’ll Have a Good Time Then” (seminal and memorable acting episode for him)
  • Will: Cites the emotional Tommy arc for Eric; the group jokes about “bee brain” and “cleavage” episodes.
  • Danielle: “Friendly Persuasion” (Trina/Angela’s standout moment)
• Favorite Character:
  • Danielle & Ryder: Jack; “had the biggest impact, surprised me the most.” (87:21)
  • Will: Rusty (Alan) for subtle brilliance and versatility as actor and director.

Fill-in-the-Blank Game (92:34)

• Q: “What happened to Nobody’s Angels after the truck stop?”
  Will: “Tragic truck accident. There’s only one angel left.” (92:56)

• Q: “Who would you cast as Jack's stepfather?”
  Will: “Michael McKean. … Would have been brilliant and completely used wrong as Topanga’s dad.” (94:07)

• Q: “What are the characters’ college majors?”

  • Eric: Communications. “Catch all for ‘you’re just in college.’” – Will (95:34)
  • Sean: English Literature.
  • Topanga: Double major, likely Political Science and Environmental Studies.
  • Jack: Business.
  • Rachel: Possibly Hospitality or Pre-Med.
  • Angela: Psychology or African American Studies.
  • Corey: Changes major every year.

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REFLECTION ON THE SEASON & WHAT’S NEXT (99:09–103:48)

Season Seven Teaser

• Expectations: Jack comes into his own; Eric’s goofiness leans more lighthearted; new stands-out like “the honeymoon episode” are teased.
• Guests encourage the team to continue post-show recaps, as listeners love the synergy and authenticity of their group.

Legacy & The Podcast’s Role

• The hosts and guests reflect on their honest, unfiltered approach, the challenges of recapping a rocky season, and the social contract with their listeners for candor and inclusion.
  • Danielle: “We had a rule … we weren’t going to self-edit as we go, that we were going to just have very real, honest conversations.” (71:18)
  • TC: “[The] brand of Pod Meets World … is these guys saying, ‘you know what, we’re going to have authentic conversation.’” (100:24)
• Ryder, inspired by the discussion, promises to lean more into critique and analysis even when episodes falter.

Big Picture Perspective

• Will: “We need to remind ourselves that … we’re in very rarefied era of television. … There is not a show in the history of television that has been 7, 8, 9, 10 years of bangers. … That’s just the way it works.” (103:07)

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TIMESTAMPED MEMORABLE QUOTES

• “When we first started doing live shows … when we walked out onstage … it was like, oh my gosh. … This is happening.”
  — Ryder Strong (05:54)
• “Pod Meets World has probably become the thing I’m most proud of in my career.”
  — Danielle Fishel (11:34)
• “No, that’s true. Ghost Chet doesn’t even visit his kids in the afterlife. It’s only Shawn.”
  — Will Friedle (26:48)
• “They just … went, ‘yeah, we’re done with that. We’re going to make [Topanga] completely … just every person out there.’”
  — Will Friedle (27:57)
• “Eric is never the same … after the Tommy episode, Eric kind of cracks and you only get goofy Eric from this point on.”
  — Siege (42:26)
• “The relationship is the thing these characters use to fix everything—or avoid facing stuff.”
  — TC (39:50) [paraphrased]
• “Your voices are so important, specifically yours, because we’ve seen this show through a very specific lens. … You add a voice that is needed.”
  — Siege to Danielle (81:05)
• “We need to remind ourselves that … we’re in very rarefied era of television. … There is not a show in the history of television that has been 7, 8, 9, 10 years of bangers. … That’s just the way it works.”
  — Will Friedle (103:07)
• “Season six has been the lowest … You’ve gone through that journey. Only up from here.”
  — TC (101:53)

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FINAL THOUGHTS

This candid, expansive season capstone episode is rich with bittersweet retrospection, inside baseball, sharp critique, and real affection for the show’s evolving legacy. Pod Meets World and Bruh Meets World not only contextualize Boy Meets World’s rockiest year, but deliver essential insight into the way fan perspectives, podcasting, and lived experience reshape what pop culture means to us all.

For longtime fans, it’s both reassurance and a call to keep analyzing, questioning, and, above all, enjoying the story together.

Transcript

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[Danielle Fishel]

Well, we had our for now, at least. Last ever. Pod Meets World Live. The kids want to jump.

[Ryder Strong]

The kids no longer want to jump. The kids can't jump anymore.

[Danielle Fishel]

The kids are done jumping.

[Will Friedle]

The kids have hurt themselves, have a slight meniscus tear and can no longer jump.

[Ryder Strong]

The kids have fallen. Exactly. They can't get up.

[Danielle Fishel]

We had such a great tour this year. Let's name some of the places we went. Not, let's not go back to the very beginning because I think we've done 35ish total. Pod meets World Live shows. If we go back to the very beginning.

[Ryder Strong]

So crazy.

[Danielle Fishel]

But this year we did Portland, Seattle, Vegas, Sacramento, Sacramento, Phoenix, and yes, Phoenix.

[Will Friedle]

Austin, Phoenix, Austin, Columbus, Columbus. And then we were just in Salt.

[Danielle Fishel]

Lake and we did Salt Lake, which was our last show. And it was the only one that was a one off. It was the only trip we took where we just did one show and then came home.

[Will Friedle]

Yep.

[Danielle Fishel]

And we'll be honest, ticket sales weren't amazing. And so we thought, huh, it's just maybe not that many people want to come out and see the live show. It was one of the best shows.

[Will Friedle]

Yep.

[Danielle Fishel]

And one of the best crowds out of.

[Will Friedle]

In one of the best theaters.

[Danielle Fishel]

In one of the most gorgeous theaters.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

It was so much fun. And then the three of us all got teary.

[Ryder Strong]

I was gonna say you say fun, but it was also like wildly Emotional, like, wildly emotional. It hit me in, like, very profound way. It's so funny. I think when we first started doing live shows, it was like, is this a thing? Does anybody care about this? We're having fun. And those first couple shows, when we walked out on stage and had the roar and felt the audience and then started talking to the audience and engaging with them, it was like, oh, my gosh. Yeah, this is.

[Danielle Fishel]

We got emotional then, too.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. And I remember looking at you, Danielle, I'll never forget your face, like, just full on tears, like, filling your eyes, going, this is happening.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

And then to have that happen again last week, but you know, in the opposite end of it and be like, oh, wow, this is. This feels right. This feels like we're ready to, like, this wave has, like crested and now we should put this away for a little bit. And. And it was amazing to me how many people. Like, we had, like three different people that had been to our first show and then our last show. That was so cool. And so we were able to be like. It changed a lot, right? They were like, oh, my gosh. It completely grew from when we first started doing this. And, you know, I'm just really proud of us for that aspect. Like, we never repeated ourselves as far as, like, what we talked about. We did Q&As with the audience. We brought up people from the crowd every time. And I feel like even if you came and saw more than one show, you had a different experience.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, I think so too.

[Ryder Strong]

And because of that, like, I genuinely feel like we connected with every city we went to. Like, every crowd felt different. Felt like we had different reactions and different questions. And, you know, it was just a. It was really fun to.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, so off the top of your head, going back to even the original tour, what do you think? Taking nothing away from the other cities, what do you think is your favorite show that we did?

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, it's so hard to pick. Like Ryder said, they're all so different. Like, obviously the shows where we had special guests, like, Philly.

[Will Friedle]

Huge.

[Danielle Fishel]

Philly was massive. 3,000 people, tons of amazing guests with us. Like, everybody on stage is just magical. Such a magical highlight of the tour.

[Ryder Strong]

And then was the loudest. You guys remember walking out?

[Danielle Fishel]

We did.

[Ryder Strong]

Like, we walked out in Florida and it was just like, what is. Oh. Like we couldn't even talk. Like, the audience was just on their feet screaming.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

For me, Toronto was our.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

My favorite show.

[Ryder Strong]

Do you remember that?

[Will Friedle]

Toronto. That was like two reasons.

[Ryder Strong]

Because we were like, are. Do we have Canadian fans, like, what's this audience gonna be like? We're just across the border. And they couldn't have been, like, more Canadian in the sense that they were, like, really engaged.

[Danielle Fishel]

So polite.

[Will Friedle]

Very polite.

[Ryder Strong]

Very polite. Asking, like, questions.

[Danielle Fishel]

Like.

[Ryder Strong]

That was where we got into the philosophy discussion.

[Will Friedle]

That's why you liked it. It was the David Hume then.

[Ryder Strong]

Do you remember the. The guy we pulled up from the audience who was like, oh, my God.

[Will Friedle]

He was.

[Ryder Strong]

You know, we audition people from the audience, we bring them up, we have him do a little thing. And this guy shocked all of us by being, like, a profoundly great actor. Like, he did this stuff. I just. I was like, what? So he was great. So there was the Jason Marsden show where he played with us. Was it Milwaukee?

[Will Friedle]

Milwaukee, which I think is our second show ever. Yes.

[Ryder Strong]

And he.

[Will Friedle]

And.

[Ryder Strong]

And he was. Because he was on stage when we brought somebody up from the audience to play with us and to do a scene, she ended up improvising. First of all, she was dressed as Korra, perfectly dressed as. And she was improvising with us. And we brought Jason on, and she. We brought Jason out as a surprise, and she still managed to improv the song from the Goofy Movie. She, like, sang it to me, and I had no idea what it was. And then after she left, Jason was like, that's from the Goofy Movie. This is. Yeah, Our audiences are the best.

[Will Friedle]

Like, New York, I have to say, New York, when we headlined and sold out at the. The Comedy.

[Danielle Fishel]

Comedy.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, was. And then everyone. All our meet and greets. We were outside because they needed the theater. So the meet and greets, it was, like, freezing. And people waited in line for hours to see us in the. In the freezing cold. Remember that? We were in the hallway in between Boston.

[Ryder Strong]

We had some vomiting.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, Boston, with the.

[Ryder Strong]

Throwing out.

[Will Friedle]

Somebody's throwing out.

[Ryder Strong]

We didn't.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

We didn't see it.

[Ryder Strong]

We didn't smell it, but we. We heard. We heard a commotion in the third row, and we thought somebody had, you know, kicked somebody or something. It turned out somebody had spilled something.

[Danielle Fishel]

I actually thought somebody opened a can. It was like, you heard a. Oh.

[Will Friedle]

That'S not what it was.

[Danielle Fishel]

No. We found out later it was somebody vomiting.

[Will Friedle]

That was also fun because we did that tour. We did New York and then Boston, and Danny was with us the whole time. So we got to carpool with Danny from New York to Boston.

[Danielle Fishel]

Quite a bit of time with Danny, which was so nice, which was awesome. Melissa Joan Hart came out in Nashville, which was also incredible. We had Jody and Andrea visit us and hang out with us in LA with Blake.

[Will Friedle]

Blake was in Nashville. Remember, he's like this real witch. Just moved in and then Melissa comes on stage and the place went nuts.

[Danielle Fishel]

Tony went with us to quite a few show.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Matt Lawrence came to a bunch too. We just.

[Danielle Fishel]

Two.

[Will Friedle]

Was it two? Okay. Oh, man, it was so my hometown, being in that theater in Connecticut where I used to go as a kid and then Ryder's hometown.

[Danielle Fishel]

I am a latchkey kid.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. So I am the child in la. There you go.

[Ryder Strong]

It's been an amazing experience.

[Danielle Fishel]

It really has.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, it is. What a man. What a time.

[Danielle Fishel]

And even if you did not get a chance to come out and see a live show, one of the things I said at the end of the day, a significant amount of our live shows was that, you know, doing the podcast has made Boy Meets World take on a new life. And there's now like an extension of Boy Meets World that is now Pod Meets World. And as a part of that, you, our listeners, have truly become your own character in the canon of Boy Meets World. And we just now can't imagine it without you. And you are all so funny and so engaged and so you thank. Thoughtful and so you're just. You're in it. You know, our in jokes. You send us great. You know, you send us things and we're like, oh, that's probably what it was like. You're just right there with us for the entire thing, and we just can't thank you enough because you've really. I don't think I speak for just myself when I say, you know, Pod Meets World has. Has probably become the thing I'm most proud of in my career.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

So definitely, you know, somebody came to.

[Will Friedle]

Our live show dressed as my underwear.

[Ryder Strong]

That was so funny. She was just a line of suits, of underwear. Underwear.

[Will Friedle]

I mean, it was the. I was at a convention this weekend and many, many people had me sign things as seat 4C. It's just become so cool, the amount.

[Ryder Strong]

Of in jokes and like. And, you know, it's like, it's also. It's. It's. It's so personal. Like, I feel like we're very much being ourselves. We're. Yeah, we're. And for the first time, I mean, for me personally, like, Boy Meets World always felt like something that happened to me, you know, that I had to sort of react to. And now I feel like it's something I'm engaging with, with an incredible community. Not, not just YouTube, but like a community of people. Yeah. That we all can like this thing, can have participated in this thing as children, either as watchers or in my case, performers. And now we can all own it together and really just be bonded by that experience and enjoy it. And I. It's changed my life.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, me too. People are gonna think we're wrapping the show up with the way we're talking right now.

[Danielle Fishel]

We're just finishing season six. As a matter of fact. That's a perfect segue to our episode today. Welcome to pod meets world. I'm Danielle Fishel.

[Ryder Strong]

I'm Ryder Strong.

[Will Friedle]

And I'm Will Friedle.

[Danielle Fishel]

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[Ryder Strong]

Your favorite streaming shows, of course, but.

[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Ryder Strong]

When this Bruh Meets World when this Bruh meets World Bruh Bruh Meets World. We're back again.

[Danielle Fishel]

So good to see you guys.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Likewise.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

So happy to be back.

[Danielle Fishel]

We always look forward to seeing you both and having this episode together. As always, I'm gonna start with the question I ask every time we do this, but this time with a little more understanding of the possible answer. Have we ruined the show for you yet?

[Ryder Strong]

The show has ruined the contest.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

We were like, did we ruin this season for you? We gotta set it up.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Yeah, you know, I would say say that it's so interesting because last time we were on with you guys, we had said, I think season six is our least favorite season. And so, you know, listening to your review, if anything, it just kind of justified what we thought more than ruined anything specific for us. I don't think anyone can make heads or tails of the season personally, so I feel like you guys did the best you could.

[Will Friedle]

It's a perfect season. I disagree with you entirely. It's a perfect season. The arc was amazing. No, it was weird.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

We have your on record saying otherwise, but also, like, I just wanted to give you guys a shout out. As always. You're in your like sixth season as well. And like this season has really helped us learn so much. As always, the thing about pot meets world is we learn like a little bit of the behind the scenes things. Like your bonus episodes helped us. What did I wrote down? I wrote down that, like hearing the interview with David Brownfield, like just in like that whole of how network television worked. And his, his perspective of it was so interesting. You guys talking about, like not able to get the rights to. You've got that loving feeling for cutting the cord. You're like, oh, that makes so much more sense. Like, you guys are really good at like filling in the blanks for us listeners. We're like, this didn't quite make sense what was going on. It turns out Bill and Bonnie had one day to shoot and that's why this episode.

[Ryder Strong]

Right, right, right. Well, good.

[Danielle Fishel]

That makes me happy. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, you ruined it for me, Danielle. Okay, just so you know, just to say, you know.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well then without further ado, I'm gonna, I'm gonna hand it over to you guys and you guys can ask us. Ask away. What are your thoughts?

[Will Friedle]

Sure.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

I mean, initially, just overall, I mean, it's a romp. Has become the tagline of the season, I feel. It's so disjointed. It's so, you know, on one episode, it's the most serious episode the show has ever done. And then it completely goes into the silliest episode the show has ever done. And it's really hard for. I mean, when we were Reviewing this. We were constantly doing what you guys did, which was. Yeah, I see what they were trying to do, but how can we make this actually work? So it was interesting to see you guys try to make sense of what was happening, you know, because there's so much of it that just doesn't.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, yeah.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

I think some of the things that we really, you know, we always like to talk about what we agreed with you on and then what we disagreed with you on.

[Will Friedle]

Sure.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Things that we really enjoyed. Like, we'll have a good time. Then, of course, is like such a really heartfelt, very serious episode. And we really like the acting that is happening in the episode. And like, again, the behind the scenes story between Jack, Will. Jack, Will Ryder, Matt and Chet and just like, even, Even the. The doctor and like how he approaches it. It's like, oh, it made what was an impactful episode even more heartfelt.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes. To remind our listeners, that is when Sean and Jack's deadbeat father Chet reappears on campus and promises Sean that he has come to stay and make amends to his son for never being there.

[Will Friedle]

God, that was funny. That was funny episodes.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

But the thing we disagreed with you on was the idea that we. I think one of you said that you thought Chet would stay. Like, Chet would have stayed. And we were like, no.

[Danielle Fishel]

And our moment, we reviewed it, we.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Were like, Chet is the type of person where the moment he felt better, he would have been out of there.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

And I think there's actually proof of that in the episode because why else would someone call the boys department looking for Chet? Like, clearly he gave that number out as to reach me here if a job comes up, doesn't bother calling the boys. But knew the phone number to give out for a job opportunity.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, Right.

[Will Friedle]

But at the same time, that was all pre heart attack. So maybe, maybe the heart attack is the thing that would have changed his mind.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, that was the question was whether or not after the heart attack, if he didn't end up dying, would he have stayed? And I think, Ryder, you were the. Were you the one who said that you thought maybe he would stay?

[Ryder Strong]

Well, here's the thing. He did stay as a ghost.

[Will Friedle]

So that's true.

[Ryder Strong]

He stayed.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

That may be the best.

[Ryder Strong]

That's. That's the Sean line. And I'm sticking with. Okay, I like it.

[Will Friedle]

He also led Shawn to Nobody's angel, which is, you know, one of the biggest changes, kind of things changes in Sean's life ever is finding the ultimate in girl bands.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

So talk about Road trip, Tony. Because we had thoughts about.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Yeah, we have a lot of thoughts on that episode. First of all, I was, I don't know, 12 or something when this episode first came out, and I was deep into the boy band, girl band thing that was happening at the time. And so I really got into it because I just thought the song was a bop. Like, I just kept singing it to myself afterwards. It makes no sense for the show. But what we found very interesting about that episode is that the episode really dives into this life that Chet had outside. Like, whenever he was gone, he was on the road doing stuff, and he was talking about Shawn, and he was sharing stories about Sean. Not a mention of Jack. Not a photo of Jack. Nothing about Jack.

[Will Friedle]

No, that's true. Or Stacy or Ed.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

That was our whole thing. Well, we said, to be fair, it was this truck stop. So maybe each truck stop gets a kid that he's always talking about. But, like, we just thought that episode would have been so much better had Jack been the one to go on the road trip with him. And they both learned, because, again, it's like the whole thing that Jack says is, oh, I'll never get to know my father. And then the next episode, we are in the same episode. I think we see Shawn learn more about his father, and everyone say, oh, Chet couldn't stop talking about you. And you're like, you know, he has another son currently grieving him.

[Will Friedle]

Is there ever a point? Because we haven't seen season seven. Is there ever a point where Jack sees Chet's ghost? Or is it just Sean who sees Chet's ghost?

[Ryder Strong]

Just me.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

I think it's just Sean that sees Ghost Chat.

[Will Friedle]

I think Ghost Chat doesn't even visit his kids in the afterlife. It's only Sean.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Wow. Yeah.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

He has a favorite, is what?

[Will Friedle]

Apparently. Yeah, I'll say. But I can tell you both that we've been on the road. We did 35, you know, live shows, and so we were in diners all over the country. Not a single unsigned girl band did we find.

[Ryder Strong]

And you guys have connected, and that's.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

The circuit they're usually on.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, exactly.

[Will Friedle]

Exactly. So not a one. Not a one.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

You know, when we were talking about season six, it's like, what is the season trying to accomplish? What is the theme of the season? If season five was all about change, it seems like this season was about transitioning into adulthood, maturing. And yet what we found is that many of the characters actually regress. Like, whereas when put in a position where Corey or Eric should have been growing and maturing. They actually act more immature when faced with these larger solutions. So I think that was part of what made season six overall feel unsatisfactory, is that I don't feel like anyone got anything positive out of the lessons that were learned this season.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, Yeah. I also. I also would argue that throughout the entire season, really culminating with the final episode, I don't know what they did with Topanga. Oh, she's so different this season that it's one of those things where. To the point where then they completely changed her home life, where now her. They bring in her parents, and he's apparently fourth generation Yale. And it's. It's like, wait, what this. None of this is what the character was. And I get having to make it a little more mainstream as she gets older to appeal to a wider audience. I understand that. But the quirkiness is what made Topanga so interesting. And they just, especially this season, just went, yeah, we're done with that. We're gonna make her completely. Just every person out there. And it was like.

[Danielle Fishel]

It seems like they discredited the audience to be like, they won't remember. We'll just. We can make her anything. They won't remember. And yet the audience so very clearly loved the OG Topanga and remembered very clearly what her origin story was. So for them in season six to just be like, they don't care. We'll just. That her dad is this, you know, banker type who. Four generations of Yale, and then it'll all work for the marriage storyline. And people were like, why?

[Ryder Strong]

That's not it.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Why would you do that?

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Well, so much of the season also just felt like I didn't recognize any of the characters. I didn't recognize Sean for being the lovable goofball that we've known him to be. We have real thoughts about Eric this season that we're going to dive into later in terms of his change. But, yeah, speaking on Topanga, not only did they kind of shift away, we also just feel like so much of Topanga storyline just revolves around Cory. Like, we really don't get any individual exploration on her. You know, we have a headcanon. That part of the reason why she's, like, pushing the marriage because you guys were like, why does she keep pushing this? This doesn't feel like her. It's because in our headcanon, she is trying to justify giving up Yale. If I gave up Yale, it needs to be for something. What do I have now? And so if she chose like when she was faced with the decision, she's like, corey, marry me. I don't know. Marry me. And so now that seems to be the thing that she's coming back to, because that's all she has left.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay, that's valid to your point about nobody really, like, everybody kind of regressing. One thing I did think of is that that scene that we get between Sean and Eric where Sean really feels like he's at peace, that the road trip scenario really did help ground him. He's not like you said, he's not the lovable goofball we've gotten to know. But seeing a little bit of peace in him, that he is happy where he is and he's happy with his friends instead of the, I've gotta get away from here. I've gotta run from something. That was nice. I thought that felt really good, evolution in the character. But I think that's the only one.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, it is.

[Will Friedle]

But it's also then at the same time, with the same character, you're like, like, and what the Is going on with Angela.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, I know, I know.

[Will Friedle]

Like that.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Are you together?

[Will Friedle]

Are you not together? She's kind of different now. It was, it was just. There were many episodes that I, I, I said this on. I think it was either the last episode of the episode, the, the, the penultimate episode where it's like, okay, decent episode of television, not Boy meet world. I mean, it's not, not characters that we know or recognize, but well written, well acted, like, okay, on its own, good episode. But, but who are these people? I got that a lot more this, this season than ever before. And I also got a lot of. Really, again, going back to Topanga episodes that should have been Topanga focused that weren't like how you have the, the, the, the Teacher episode where Fred comes in and the one time she tries to speak and defend herself, Dean Boland or the other woman in the room goes, okay, shut your mouth, Topanga. And it's like, wait, what?

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Yeah, so we had that whole conversation. We were like, there are so many storylines this season that should have been just. This should have been Topanga season.

[Will Friedle]

Yep.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Agreed. In our mind, it's like you have the engagement, harassment, Yale, her parents, divorce. Like, there's so much there that it's like, what with this season, we actually, it's part of our questions. What do you think season six would have looked like if it was from Topanga's perspective?

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, it would have been great. You could have kept all of the same elements right but just had it be about her doubts and her feelings and her. Yeah, that's. That would be incredible.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, I'm sorry, but now I'm off on a thing. Has there ever been a television show, especially a sitcom, done where every season is done from a different character's point of view? Has that ever been done?

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Well, you know, there are some sitcoms where, like, our shows where a lead will depart and they'll refocus on a different character. But in terms. Yeah, but in terms of, like, season to season, I don't think so. Nothing's coming to mind.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know. Boy Meets World kind of did it. I mean, like, you know, season one was definitely all about Corey. Season two was. Was Eric's season or Sean's? Did it start.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

More Sean.

[Will Friedle]

More Sean. Season three was Eric.

[Danielle Fishel]

I think season three is Eric. Okay. And then season four went back, was a Sean and Eric. Season four was split between the two of you.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There it. But it was really interesting if the season was from Topanga's point of view.

[Ryder Strong]

Because this would have been the perfect.

[Will Friedle]

Season to do it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

And every chance they had, they didn't.

[Ryder Strong]

I was thinking this morning just about how unfocused this season felt for me, or like, on you, you know, not unified. And then I have to remember, and I just. I think we all kind of take for granted that Corey and Topanga end up together. Like, because. Because we're looking back, the reality is this whole season started with they're gonna get married and then spent two episodes saying, not yet, not yet, not yet. And we sort of wrote that off as like, well, of course you could wait and just be engaged. But. But at the time when this was airing live, that is a big question. And it was kind of like two 18 year olds who are. They're gonna get married. That's crazy. And I think probably at the time, our writers thought that that was more of an organizing principle than it actually is. Do you know what I mean? Like, that was enough of a suspenseful question to pull you through. Whereas now we look at it and the suspense isn't there. So we're just like, why is she not want to get married? Why does he want one? You know, like from episode. But. But overall, I bet at the time, it did feel a little like a high wire act of like, are they really gonna have these characters get married? Can these characters get married? Is that okay? Yeah, that was a question that was hanging over the whole show that we just don't have hanging over it now. So we don't feel any of that tension. So the whole season feels a little random, a little, like, less organized. But actually, that would have been a thread pulling us through, I think, you know, will they? Wait, I have a question.

[Will Friedle]

Was. Was the. The. The poll that they did on the Internet, was that between five and six or six and seven?

[Danielle Fishel]

Seven, I think six and seven.

[Ryder Strong]

Six and seven.

[Will Friedle]

So it wasn't. She proposed, and then they put the poll out, and so it started with.

[Ryder Strong]

Him saying, I think they were still asking at the end of the season. That's why they introduced Topanga's. I think the question is, oh, gosh, should they get married? You know, so it's not even will they? Won't they? It's should they or shouldn't they? It's almost like our writers were asking the audience, which they did with the.

[Will Friedle]

Poll, like, right, do you think this.

[Ryder Strong]

Is a good idea? Like, should they? You know, and of course, now I can look at them, be like, no, don't. No, they shouldn't run away from that dude.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

But, you know, part of the reason I feel like that's unsuccessful is because the motivations for why they are questioning marriage are so ambiguous and kind of shift back and forth from episode to episode depending on Generic.

[Ryder Strong]

Right?

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

It's just generic, and it doesn't actually get at any of the true issues, which is Topanga is. Is my. Should I be exploring other things other than Corey? Like, that should be something that should be coming up consistently throughout the. Throughout the season. Yet we constantly see Corey, who has known since he was 2 years old, he wants to marry Topanga, question whether or not this is the right move for him. And it just doesn't make any sense to kind of, you know, create that tension that you're speaking to Writer, I think.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, yeah, I agree.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

I think in a lot of ways, you. You both are. All of you talked about, like, how the storylines could have changed a little bit to give us more of that connected thread. Like the season finale States of the Union. I forgot which one of you said it, but we came up with the exact same ending. Which to me, if we came up with the exact same ending, means it's there, which is, you're in the kitchen. It's the two of them. They decide, do we want to do this? The phone rings.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

And you never get an answer like, hey, do you want this date or not? End of season? Like, we came up with the exact same ending. We were like, oh, that's the case. Then that means it's in the air.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

But it just wasn't executed the same thing. I would say for you're married, you're dead. We were like, in that episode, Corey is like, you know, wants to go out with the guys and he's like, I, I, I would. Should I be wearing my engagement ring? And at the end of it, he's like, I am man. I do what I want. And I'm unapologetic. He's like, but you should still go out with the guys. Like, if the question is, hey, can I have friendships in my relationship with Shawn and still be married? The answer should be yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

And that lets you know, like this whole season should be Cory actually becoming more comfortable with getting married while Topanga becomes less comfortable with getting married. And then if that's a season long arc and we go on that journey, all the pieces are there. Every episode just needed to be tweaked a little bit to get us there.

[Will Friedle]

I also think this season more than any other, we would come to find out, and I bet you we will come to find out with the more people we talk to that the politics of the network really played in to how the season ended because not only were we really on the bubble, but the all of TGIF was on the bubble. We didn't know if Sabrina was staying, if Sabrina was leaving, what shows were gonna be picked up, what weren't. They were canceling, they were moving things around. And so when we finally got the word that we got picked up for season seven, we only got picked up for 13. So originally we were not picked up for the entire season. And it wasn't until we were 10 episodes into season seven that they picked us up for our back nine. So I wonder how much of the politics going at ABC really dictated, you know, okay, well, let's, we'll end with a wedding. It's going to be Feeny's wedding. So if, you know that doesn't work out well. But Michael was also probably like, we need to end on the cliffhanger because we need them to bring us back. So that's what I was wondering to.

[Ryder Strong]

Your point is like how much Michael was, was struggling against the network politics because they were probably saying to him, you really going to have these, these kids get married? That's irresponsible. And Michael was probably saying, no, it's the most responsible thing to do. Let's explore it. And then he had to keep writing episodes that showed he was exploring the problems of getting married or for these kids to get married. But I feel like those problems weren't true to the characters.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Ryder Strong]

Like, they were not. The anxieties were just. Let's illustrate different anxieties. And that was probably to address network notes that were like, really? You're gonna do this? And he's like, yeah, yeah, we'll explore it. We'll show all the different problems. And it's like. But those problems weren't based in Topanga and Cory. Like, by the end of season six or five, we know Cory and Topanga. We know what problems they would have going into this. And they're not illustrated in this season.

[Will Friedle]

No, absolutely.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Well, especially when you completely change who Cory and Topanga seemingly are for the whole season. You know, we kind of had this conversation about codependency and the role that it plays in the season specifically. Like, for example, with Jack, who we felt like we got really close to having some really meaningful moments with Jack. But, you know, when Jack is at the point where he is, you know, really grieving Chet the most is when he is immediately thrusted into a relationship with Rachel, never to speak about his grief again. And, you know, the show, I think, continuously uses relationships as a distraction. And from dealing in processing with real trauma and grief. We see that with Corey in the NICU as well.

[Ryder Strong]

Right.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

And it's just one of those things where it feels like the show is intentionally trying to say that, you know, romantic relationships are the cure for any.

[Ryder Strong]

All of life's problems that you should have.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

And when Sean tries to explore life without a romantic interest, it falls.

[Ryder Strong]

Right, right, right. Well, Will brought this up early on in the season. You know, he was like, the problem. Sean's problem is that he's single, you know, or that he doesn't want to commit to a relationship, and that makes him a bad per. You know, or a failed person. And I. I do think that that's the value System of Boy 12.

[Will Friedle]

And it goes back to, you know, Jack is grieving, and he has a. Matt has this great scene where he find. You know, that whole episode he's like the pillar and he's strong and he's there for everybody. And then he breaks down that wonderful scene. And it might be Matt's best acting of. I haven't seen season seven yet, but certainly to date, I thought Matt. There were several times where Matt killed it this season, and this was kind of the pinnacle for me. And then what saved him? Making out with me.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Caitlyn.

[Will Friedle]

So the. The kiss, once again, is the magical and sourceful kiss where you. That's it you make out and now, hey, everything's good. So they did it again. They just did it in a much now with drama as opposed to comedy. On season six, they did the same power of the kiss. So yeah, it's. The whole thing was. And then they didn't do anything with. With Rachel's character. I mean just kind of anything. All season, people. We haven't even really talked about her. Right.

[Ryder Strong]

She's.

[Will Friedle]

She's tall and pretty. She's tall and pretty.

[Ryder Strong]

That's.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

I like how David Brownfeld said like they, he admitted they didn't know what to do with Jack and Rachel. And I think like it's obvious. You can see in the episodes. Daniel, you looked like you were about to say something.

[Danielle Fishel]

No, I was just thinking about how we were talking about the Jack and Rachel of it all and how Will brought up that point where he said why would they bring in another character that's clearly about giving Eric more friends and then completely alienate him from them. And that was a really good point. And I. The only thing we can figure is because they were setting it up, up for the spin off in case either Ben didn't come back for season seven or for. In case the show didn't get picked up and they wanted to focus on a spinoff starring Will. But like they really brought in a characters that could have really set up great comedy and then removed him from the house.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, it had to have been that, that, that, that they were spinning me off. They brought in more people to give Eric more to lose. So now he's lost his family, now he's lost his friends, now he's lost the girl. So when he does get in the car and drive away at the end, which is what was supposed to happen, it's more justified. Yeah, that's all we could think.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

So great that you brought this up because I think we've talked to you about this before, but there's a creator called T1J who created an entire theory that the season that broke Eric is what he calls season six.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

This idea that every like, like Eric is never the same. Specifically after the Tommy episode, Eric kind of like cracks and you only get goofy. Eric, from this point on, it's like, no, this man is having a mental breakdown. Like he's being ignored by his family.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

He is isolated in all these different ways. And you're right, like knowing now that there was supposed to be a spin off, who knows what that could have looked like. But since it doesn't spin off all we get. All we are left with is like this broken character. What do you think? Like, about what, what happens to Eric in this?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, I mean, that's. It's 100% true. It's. It's one of those things where they, they set it up to where he's betrayed by betrayed, quote unquote. He's not. He's just. But his best friend and the girl now he loves apparently, you know, go behind his back to have some sort of a relationship. He's not really talking to his brother anymore. Feeny's gotten married. He doesn't have her. He doesn't have Tommy. His parents have come out. They have a new baby. Baby. He is. He's a. They. They set him up to be alone on an island specifically to have him leave. And then they don't have him leave.

[Ryder Strong]

Do you know what the show would have been? Did you ever talk about, like, what. Where Eric was going to live. What was going to be.

[Will Friedle]

Eric was going to go. So the. I remember Michael already had the whole opening title sequence, which is Eric driving like a zombie, hitting the. The Santa Monica Pier. And the car launches off the end of the pier and sticks into the sand. The door opens, Eric rolls out and continues walking into the ocean.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

And.

[Will Friedle]

And that's the opening title sequence.

[Ryder Strong]

And then Eric in la.

[Will Friedle]

Eric's in Los Angeles. Then he meets a whole new group of friends. He lives in la. He would get a job in Los Angeles, maybe decide. It essentially sounds like Joey.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

I wanna say, is it comedy, Is it drama?

[Will Friedle]

No, it was a full sitcom. It sound. It sounds like how they spun off Matt LeBlanc and friends was going to be kind of what it is. Meet a whole new group of friends. Eric, you know, he's like a fish.

[Ryder Strong]

Out of water in la.

[Will Friedle]

He's a fish out of water in la. And, you know, Michael would always. Ryder, you and I just talked about this off mic where Michael would always talk about how you take the wacky character and you make him the star of the show is what they did in Frasier where Frasier was the wacky character on Cheers. But when you bring in Niles, it pushes Frasier to the middle. So if you take Eric to LA and you give him somebody even more wacky, Eric becomes the star of the show and becomes the Corey because he's then in the middle. And I think that's what they were planning. He was gonna meet a girl. He was gonna, you know, it was gonna be.

[Ryder Strong]

It would probably be commentary on, like, LA jokes and LA Stereotypes. So I'm sure Eric would have been like, the more normal. What these servers. This is crazy, right? These are insane, right? That would have been so.

[Will Friedle]

I mean, we pitched several times to abc. It looked like it was going to be. I think. I think it was Lloyd Braun at the time who was running abc. And we, you know, we were in the room a couple times and Michael pitched it, and then I just. It was one of those things where I just never heard about it again. It wasn't like, I got a call. Hey, they decided not to pick it up. Hey, they decide.

[Ryder Strong]

I just imagine Boy Meets World. I mean, without Eric, like, like, we would just lose so much comedy, like, so much energy. So, like, like, at this point, you're holding up the entire half of the show with just your acting chops because it's not in the writing. It's your performance that's literally holding up the entire, like, half, like half of the show. It's crazy to me, like, that they were even considering that and thinking that that would be okay. Like, like, I bet you that was why they didn't do it. They were like, no, we need, we cannot. Like, Boy Meets World won't survive.

[Will Friedle]

You know, I don't think TGIF survived after. After we left. I think they. They folded pretty quick afterwards. I think this was kind of the last hurrah of tgif, was our show.

[Ryder Strong]

Sure.

[Will Friedle]

So.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Well, as it stands now, like, you know, the canon that is in the show, Eric just loses everything and then just turns his wackiness up to 12, honestly. And so as you watch season seven, really kind of see it through the lens of him disguising his tragedy with humor and trying to, you know, get attention in any way that he can because no one's really paying attention to him. Because I feel like that comes up quite a bit, actually.

[Will Friedle]

That's specifically how I was playing it. He was multi level. I wasn't doing that at all. I wasn't doing that at all. It just. I think season seven is going to meet kind of the. Let's see how far we can push Eric and if will. Will do it. And of course I would. So I think that's kind of just.

[Ryder Strong]

I mean, there were times where we.

[Will Friedle]

Were betting on the set. Michael and I would have bets like, you, you can't pull this joke off. Like, he would say to me, you can't. I would go, I got five bucks. It says I'll get a laugh on this. There's no way you can't. It's Too big. I'm like, let's see. And so it became a thing, and I think we're probably gonna be able to see that on season seven, I think.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

I think a downfall of both Eric and really Sean, as is them centering well, Topanga centering Corey and everything, but also constantly using Corey as a blueprint for what their lives should be. So with Eric, you have, like, I need a best friend. I need a girlfriend. Sean, I have a best friend. I need a girlfriend. And when they can't mimic properly what Corey has, they instinctively feel that something's wrong with them and that they're not, you know, who they're supposed to be.

[Ryder Strong]

So insightful, man. That is, like, you just nailed it. You just, like, cracked the code.

[Will Friedle]

That's what it is.

[Ryder Strong]

So true.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

And even Topanga, I think, is worse off from trying to fit what Cory's image of Topanga is versus what her authentic pursuits would be. So it's just something that we kind of see specifically through season six and seven.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, that was. Yep, that's it. That's what it is. I mean, it's not just that. It's also. It started back in the day. If you go even back to season one with Sean, it's. He's got the nuclear family, right? Mom and a dad and. And a bro. I mean, it's. He's got. So it is. It's.

[Ryder Strong]

But it was balanced back then by the idea that Corey still had a lot to. Of growing to do. He was still a little boy who was lost, who had, you know, improper impulses and things that he needed. Whereas now it's like, no, he knows. You know, it's like that turning point. I mean, I'll. I'll go back. I know I'm, like, ringing the same bell, but, like, it. To me, it goes back to Long Walk to Pittsburgh Part 2, where Corey took authority of the show and said, I know better. We're right. All the parents are wrong. And it's like, it just destabilized the show. Like, from that point on, he is the center of. You know, and that's what we saw. Like, for me, the baby. The Ted baby episode is just. It's so painful because it's like, this is not good, man. Like, you're being. But the show kind of comes around, Danielle. Topanga's gotta adjust to go back to her roots. For him, it's like, no.

[Will Friedle]

Well, I love how we found out that really, the reason that she was allowed to live there is because she was the problem in her parents relationship.

[Danielle Fishel]

Exactly. They were hoping to get rid of me.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Absolutely. You know, you guys brought up so many storylines that we, like, wanted to revisit and talk to you and get your take on. Like, one being this idea of the parents. Like, Amy is pregnant this season. And there is so much. There are so many storylines that you can tell in terms of her being in the older pregnancy. You know, like all, like that entire journey. We feel like the episode where, like the Lamont class, that should be centered around Amy's experience.

[Will Friedle]

No, it's gonna say they told a ton of stories about Amy from Alan's point of view.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

And almost loses a baby and I get to give the baby monologue.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Yeah, right. That's the point. It's like there are so many storylines. Another one that we had was this idea of Feeny starts off the season, retired, then he's a student for a day, and then he's a teacher. And we were like, actually, it would have been so cool to see Feeny go back to school and actually just be one of the gang, at least for this season, because, like, then we can build up to have him and Dean and actually see that relationship grow. And we wanted to know, like, what do you think that that's a good idea? Like, how do you feel like Feeny could have fit better into this season?

[Danielle Fishel]

It would have been great. Especially because there were so many episodes we said, what we really need is Eric back with Feeny.

[Ryder Strong]

I was gonna say they were students together.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Ryder Strong]

It would have been amazing.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, I would love to. If I could go back and pitch an episode for season six, it would have been a day in the life of Feeny retired where he doesn't know what to do. And at one point, he starts teaching the postal worker something about history.

[Ryder Strong]

Giving life lessons to everybody.

[Will Friedle]

Life lessons to everybody around, like, doesn't know what to do. He's sitting by himself and he's just absolutely lost. And it would have been a wonderful way. And then bring Eric in and, you know, I think Ryder, you came up with the idea at one point where it's like, Eric has no place to live, Feeny has extra room at his house. The two of them together, and it becomes kind of an odd couple situation is you can mind that comedy for two seasons. So, yeah, that would have been. Cause then you move in, the dean, now he's married, now he's gotta kick Eric out. Oh, my God. It's just the cool. You know, the dean walks down, Eric's in his underwear. Like, all right, we got some rules of the house. It's like, all right, Dean. I mean, it could have been great.

[Ryder Strong]

I think they were really concerned that if you left the Jack Rachel dynamic, that their characters would not have enough. And I think that that's a valid concern.

[Will Friedle]

I think when Eric did leave, they didn't have.

[Ryder Strong]

Exactly. That's the thing. You can't keep them just. What, what, what is it? You know, like the two of them. I know you have a, you have a, a whole episode about how tall she is. That's literally the only storyline they riff on. And he's insecure about it. Like, right.

[Danielle Fishel]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Ryder Strong]

And the fact that Amazon prime also puts hundreds of movies and TV shows right at your fingertips.

[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Will Friedle]

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[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Well, part of the we thought was a bigger issue throughout the whole season is that college and education is actually kind of sidelined compared to the role that it plays in the earlier high school seasons and things like that.

[Ryder Strong]

You're right. We have a lot of concern about the co ed bathroom.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Yeah, exactly.

[Ryder Strong]

There's a lot about the.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

It was such a big deal for Eric to get into college and what that meant to him after like struggling for, for so long. And even Sean wondering like is college for me? And then they get there and they completely abandon. Well, after Christmas, I don't think they ever go back to school.

[Ryder Strong]

I know, but we don't talk about what we're reading or learning about. I mean we have like a little.

[Will Friedle]

Bit occasionally, but it's rare.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

It feels like the show like undervalued the role that education played in the day to day storytelling.

[Danielle Fishel]

Absolutely. And additionally, I would like to say I really feel like they did a, a big disservice to Allan and Amy who would never. Even after having a new baby. They really make it seem like, well, once your kids in college and out of your house, you don't check in on them anymore or, or talk to them about where their life is heading or like truly, do they know any of the stuff like okay, there's he's sleeping on the couch and instead of them saying like let's have a bigger conversation about this, they're like, it's not working, get out of here. Like they, they don't, they, they're like, you're on your own, sir. You're older than 18. It's just, it feels, it feels.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Well, they have more kid gloves than they do with Eric. For Eric, it's always been get off the couch, get a job. Yeah, stop eating your Cocoa Puffs. But for Corey, it's always been a gentler approach, which I think is something to kind of analyze too.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

And Morgan, There's Morgan. Yeah, exactly.

[Ryder Strong]

That's actually, I'm just thinking about the whole education thing because it's been such a focus of Boy Meets World. Right. But it seems to me the end of education is getting into college. And maybe it's not surprising that Michael didn't go to college. Right. So, like, he could write about high school. He could write about that world and focus on that and the value of education. But once we get to college, what is the value of that education? Why focus on it?

[Will Friedle]

It.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

And this mirrors the experience of every millennial I know told how important college is, only to get there and be like, what do I do now? You don't know.

[Will Friedle]

Great.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

I'll figure it out.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Yeah. One of the things that Tony brought up when we were talking was this idea of is Sean's depression. Like, everything that Sean's struggling going through, the fact that, like, he's in college and maybe college was never for him. Like, this idea of, like, he's in a place where he helps has to. You know, it's not like high school where he has to be there. Now he's there and he feels lost, and he's trying to be this different person.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

And it doesn't seem to be working out.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

And the show never does anything to encourage Sean to participate in college. It doesn't give him photography classes. It doesn't give him journalism classes. It doesn't give him anything of interest. He's only in college because his friends told him to.

[Ryder Strong]

Right.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

For the most part.

[Ryder Strong]

I mean, what I really disliked about the early half of the season was the. I mean, I just didn't like Sean, and. And I feel like there just wasn't enough context given to, like, how is he approaching college differently than Corey? Why is. You know, because Corey's having these struggles fitting in or whatever the episode, and Sean's just not very sympathetic. Like, he's not, you know, And I would have been really nice to have, like, an explanation for the, oh, Sean has met other girls, you know, or Sean has met other guy friends that he's, you know, just something. Instead, it's just like, I got other stuff going on. Sean, I'll see you later, man.

[Will Friedle]

Or, like. Or don't be. Don't be that guy. Corey. It's like, you know, some of the early episodes, it was kind of like, you got to tone it down. It's like, wait a second. That's not Sean at all. And that was the first crack in this season of, the characters aren't who we thought they were. The first time I think we saw it was with Sean. And then all of a sudden, it's like, oh, and now I'm not seeing it with Topanga. And now, oh, we're all just different.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

So it was in terms of, like, the characters being different. One thing that you guys had pointed out, which we had speculated on throughout season six, was like, oh, this Sean feels more like Ryder than Sean. And, you know, this feels more like Will than Eric. And, you know, writer, you kind of talked about how they would pull things from your actual life into the show sometimes without even your consent. Like, I guess I'm wondering, like, how the. What the role of the merging between the actors and the characters, how that played into the show. And like, you know, we kind of sensed it, but you guys really confirmed it throughout the season that they were really kind of pulling from your individual lives. And is that like, does that feel like an invasion of privacy now? Does it feel like something that the characters have. You have ownership of now? Like, how does that affect the show for you?

[Ryder Strong]

Well, it's funny because just hearing you say that, I'm realizing that, like, part of, you know, part of the, like, sort of angst problem of Sean, which I kept having, which is like, why? Like, it's just this question mark. What are you upset about, dude? Like, why are you, you know, before. What are you upset about? Like, what's going on? Why are you just like, not, not. And in retrospect, it's like I was pulling away from Boy Meets World set. Like, I was literally, like, going to college, did not care about being there. And I wonder if our writers were kind of like, what's going on with Ryder? I don't.

[Will Friedle]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Ryder Strong]

He just doesn't want to be here. And then they just sort of wrote Sean like that. But, like, they actually didn't have an answer because I was just not hanging out, you know, and then they. Yeah, but until. Until Chet dies, I feel like Sean is.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Just.

[Ryder Strong]

Doesn't make any sense to me. It did not make any sense. So maybe I was just a mystery as an 18 year old, you know, like as somebody who they had watched grow up, who was always so happy to be there and part of the team. Suddenly I was like, no, man, I've got other things I'd rather do. And that's kind of how they wrote Sean.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, it seemed like for several episodes we always talk about the writer's room, the 2am jokes. And it seems like in season six, a lot of them stayed in the script.

[Ryder Strong]

I mean, like the burglar old lady.

[Will Friedle]

Yes.

[Ryder Strong]

It's like all Right.

[Will Friedle]

It's a placeholder that would have been in season four. It would have been a placeholder until they write something better or more poignant or more on character, whatever it is. And I think a lot of those times they just went, this is. Let's go with it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

It just felt that way to the.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Detriment of the characters. I feel like we had mentioned that there's things we had disagreed with you on, the things we felt differently about. There were episodes that we were in disbelief. For example, the Truman show episode, which we know is a run. I was like, bro, could you imagine if you had a roommate that did this to you?

[Danielle Fishel]

I know.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Played on your trauma, that locked you in your apartment, that filmed you without your consent. Like, he would not be your roommate anymore.

[Will Friedle]

He would be arrested.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

This show, it's okay. Next week we'll get into another romp. It's things that I'm like, well, this makes me like Eric less, actually.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, right.

[Will Friedle]

It made me like myself as a human less than character.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Someone had pointed it out in the. I can't remember which episode it is, but it's when they go to the wedding and they're seeking out the venue and they were like, can you imagine on your wedding day an 18 year old standing up and saying, I hope one day you have what we have.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, my gosh. I know. If you think about the reality of any of these situations, you're like, wait, what?

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Yeah, yeah, it was.

[Will Friedle]

It's a romp.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Speaking of, like, my. My Baby Valentine's was another one of the episodes where we were very, very like, we, you guys kind of overheard. Overlooked the idea of getting a stripper for your mom for her baby shower. But that was an episode where we kind of were like, we're pulling our hair out at this idea because the thing that they don't talk about. And Danielle, I would love to get your viewpoint on this. Is this Valentine's Day that Corey is trying to make up for is the first since the Lauren incident. And he is consistently. He's talking about how important it is that this Valentine's Day, like, they show up for each other, but it's like, no, what you're actually trying to do is like, rewrite history. Cause you're like, we always do this. It's like, well, we didn't last year. Why didn't we last year, Corey?

[Danielle Fishel]

So, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean that. I thought. I thought we talked about that. You know, when we did our recap, it was kind of like, he's Making this big deal about it. And meanwhile, Topanga's like, listen, I get it. Let's. Let's not talk about it. Last year was a bad year. But I don't need to go back to our obsessive. Every single Valentine, Valentine's Day plan scenario. Sometimes other people need to take precedence. And then, I mean, the one thing I guess I will say, although it's absolutely insane to imagine someone hiring a stripper for a baby shower, I will say that when you're thinking of, like, funny TV tropes and men are going to make big, big mistakes like that, it is a very funny concept that a guy would be like, all right, what are they doing? Entertainment. So we've got cake. And you know what? I bet they have strippers. Let's bring a guy in. You know, like, I think that is a funny. That's just the concept of that is like, I get why that's funny. But he's. The character is so unlikable through that whole episode. That Valentine's Day, it was like a three episode Valentine's Day arc that just painful.

[Will Friedle]

Didn't we also think that there's a possibility that one of the reasons he got the stripper is because he wanted the party to break up as he wanted it over so that he could go. So it's kind of him being like, what's the worst thing I could do to get this party to end? So I think that's another possibility too.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Well, like, if this were Home Improvement, for example, Tim would have done this and then learned a lesson about why he shouldn't have. Before the episode ends, Corey doubles down and continues it into the next episode. And, you know, we, we, we were actually laughing about this because we were like, wow, they really liked Cory a lot more than we did this season. Like, and I think that has to do with Ben's performance and the laughter that probably happened behind the scenes, because I was just like, he is pushing himself on Angela. He's pushing him like he read Sean's poem. He's like, pushing Topanga's like this thing on this really tragic occasion. It just seems like he's forcing himself on everyone in a way that's making him so unlikable that it's distracting us from the show.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, yeah. I think we just didn't want to keep saying the same thing. Like, you reach a point where you're like, okay, Corey's selfish and it's a romp. Like, that's what, like, we kind of have to. Otherwise the podcast would Become really, really redundant and, you know. You know, not fun. But I also understand. I understand why the writers would justify it, because you do want to have somebody being like your central character should be wrong often. Right. They shouldn't make mistakes. They should have a. You know, like, you're, like, pointing out Tim Allen's character is. Is a great example, but there's something lovable about that, right? There's like a lovable naivete or stupidity or sort of. I don't know, something about that. That he can get away with it. Whereas the Corey representation ends up being angry and. And not just, like, neurotic and. And he. He doesn't turn on himself enough. He. He sort of turns on everybody else. It's like. Like. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

And doesn't learn anything. There are full episodes where he's the wor. The worst and then doesn't learn or grow from it. It's just. He's just the worst. So, yeah, this was the worst version of him.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

This actually dovetails perfectly into this next question, which is that in your own season six, you had a lot of, like, different bonus episodes. You guys had Wrestlemania. You. It became like, Tiger Beat, the podcast. You had like, all the, like, 90s stars and the Vegas stars stuff. But I guess our question was, it's like, were those episodes meant to, like, experiment and have, like, a fresh new take on your own season six, or was it kind of like a breath of fresh air from, like, such a heavy season? Because we did notice that, like, oh, they're taking some time in between episodes.

[Will Friedle]

We're going to do four episodes in a row where we go to the carnivals. That's what we're doing.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

I mean, I think in general, we're just sort of like, you know, we've done a lot of Boy Meets World talk. We've done a lot of, you know, and I think there's a. There's a. A sense that we've covered a lot of what you can from the subject for now. So I. I'm much more interested in, like, the three of us exploring other subjects together. And I think hopefully we've created enough of a groundwork of, like. Like, who we are as a sort of team and as individuals that it. You know, when we go into these, like, Backstreet Boys concerts or whatever it is, that there's clarity on, like, who's. Who's going in there, you know, as your tour guide, and I think that's fun. So I'm really excited to do more of that, personally, because I do Find myself, like, how often can I talk crap about Corey? Or like, over, you know, it's like. So I think I find it refreshing, but it wasn't conscious because of season six. I think it's just because, you know, we've been doing this podcast now for three years, and I just think we've reached that point.

[Will Friedle]

We've also been very lucky with Iheart and the Iheart family, and they do things that like, hey, we'd like to involve you in this. We wanna send you here. We wanna do that. And we're like, yeah, let's, you know, it's a ton of fun. Let's go to Vegas. Danielle doesn't like Vegas. We have to drag her there. Ryder and I are big, huge fans, so we're.

[Ryder Strong]

I've been to Vegas more this year than ever in my life.

[Danielle Fishel]

Me too.

[Will Friedle]

Honestly, same I was at We Were Joking where it's like, I have a favorite hotel in Vegas now. Like, what are the chances of that happening? But, yeah, I think Ry, right, we're just. We're also exploring, you know, we know we're coming to the end of the show. We've got only season 7 left to recap, and we don't want to end. That's the one thing we keep hearing at every live show and every place we're going to is people are standing up and saying, please, just whatever you do, just keep going. And so we're, I think, trying to figure out what that's going to be and what that's going to look like. And. And so we're, you know, exploring our options and just spending as much time with each other as we can, frankly. So we're not sick of each other yet. Yet. But we're good. It's close.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's close. And yes, it's also a nice palette cleanser from some of the more difficult seasons. I know that more often in this season than any other season, knowing when I had to watch an episode, I'd be like, okay, deep breath.

[Ryder Strong]

Not sure.

[Danielle Fishel]

Not sure what I'm going to be in for. And, you know, like Ryder said, there is some. We. We had a rule when we started the podcast that we weren't going to self edit as we go, that we were going to just have very real, honest conversations. And then if there was anything that we said later that we thought, you know, maybe that's gonna sound too mean or that's gonna sound too harsh or I said that in a way that sounds like something, I didn't mean that then we can Edit it. But definitely when you hit a season that's kind of all over the place, there is a little bit of modulating of, like, really, I'm having to look for the positives so that all three of us are not just broken records of highlighting the obviously negative. Like, some of it's pretty obvious. It's okay to mention it. But also we're gonna find those moments, like you mentioned, of absolute joy in watching something Ben does or, you know, something that one of us does that we go, that was really funny, or seeing moments where we are very clearly out of character and they're either allowing it or they didn't have another option. But, like, we were. We. We just wanted to find moments of joy anywhere we could. Sometimes that meant away from Boy Meets World. Other times that meant really finding the positives in the actual episode where we could.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Sure. You know, one of the things that we've always really loved about your podcast is how you guys are kind of unedited and you will come kind of approach topics that, you know, are hard to talk about. There's one thing, and feel free to do it. Answer this. Don't answer it. Edit it out. Don't edit it. But we were just curious. You know, we really love the Everybody Loves Stuart episode. That's our favorite episode of the whole season. And because it kind of really approaches the, like, MeToo ness of the moment, however, it seemed strange to us that you guys kind of didn't speak on. On the fact that Fred Savage himself was roped into a MeToo controversy, so much so that he was removed from the Wonder Years reboot. And I was just wondering if there was any, like, conscious choice to talk about that, bring that up, not bring it up, if that was in the atmosphere at all.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, we did talk about it. We talked about it. And truthfully, out of respect for men, we decided not to comment on it. We. We have still not spoken to Ben, but we know that Ben's family and that they are incredibly private. And even the reason he gave us for not wanting to be a part of the podcast was that he just didn't think it was for him. And I. I'm speculating, but I think a large part of that is because there's a. We've been very vulnerable and we've been very open, and that's not for everybody.

[Ryder Strong]

I think that I don't know if we have any special access to more information about Fred's situation. You know, I don't. I feel like all we could really do is Say, and this interesting. This episode also is interesting to look back on because of xyz, which is in the public eye. But then we were like, why are we connecting these dots? I don't know. Because we, you know, people can connect those dots if they want. Like, we don't. I wasn't part of the Wonder Years team. I don't know anything more than what. I could also Google Fred Savage's name and look up and about that situation. So I don't. Yeah, I didn't. We weren't gonna get any more good analysis of the episode out of talking about it. And I don't know if it would reflect on. I just don't know what it would reflect on. But, yeah, so I. We. We went back and forth and it was sort of like, do we acknowledge this for the sake of our listeners?

[Will Friedle]

I don't know.

[Ryder Strong]

Like, what. What would our listeners take away from that? That's what. I guess I don't know what they would do with that information.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

I think with. For us as listeners, like, and again, like, this will be however it comes out. But, like, for us as listeners, it's like, we know that you are very vulnerable and you have no problem being like, hey, just so you know, this is attached to a controversy. We're not gonna speak on it. And like, that to us is kind of like, enough. I. Maybe I missed the part where you did call that out in that episode. But, like, for me, I think that was kind of like our whole thing. It's like, oh, they didn't even acknowledge it. Which is unusual for them because they at least will say, hey, we know that this is sticky. We're doing hands off. And I think for me, it even makes sense from a respect perspective. I think when we talked about it, it's like, oh, they have a. Like, Ben and the relationship is what it is. You know, you're. It's. It's his brother. So you want to be respectful to that. And especially when it's something like this, you can't speak on anything that you weren't present for.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, and I am not. I'm certainly not going to come out and say, I never had a bad experience with Fred, because guess what? My. My experience with Fred doesn't mean anything. Who cares? Like, so and so. That wouldn't have added to the conversation in any way. It is interesting because now I'm thinking about what you said we did have. When we recorded the episode. There was something in the intro and did we end up deciding to cut it? Is that. What happened?

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Oh, we cut it. I can't remember.

[Ryder Strong]

No, it was cut, but it was literally just like. And this episode has gotten more attention of late because of controversy surrounding Fred.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

And that was. And we did discuss it. And that's interesting. Siege to hear you say. Say that you would have liked that acknowledgment, because that was the debate between us. It was like, do. Is this being dishonest to not acknowledge it, or is it opening the can of worms for no reason? Because we're. We're not going to do much more than acknowledge it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Because we don't have much. We don't have much of anything to.

[Danielle Fishel]

Add or to add.

[Ryder Strong]

And does that change the analysis of the episode, really, in our discussion? Not really. So it seemed kind of. But I understand what you're saying, that there's a. There is a kind of social contract we have with our listeners. Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

That we will. Will be ourselves and that we will acknowledge our point of view. So maybe that maybe we could have done that. Yeah.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Again, to me, I think it completely. Your answer completely makes sense. It's complicated. You know, we all production. You do things, you take it out.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

You put it in.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

And particularly with something like this, it's controversial, so you want to be very sensitive. It's just like, from a POD meets world branding perspective, we were very much like, oh, they usually don't have a problem putting, like, a little tag in the beginning, so why didn't they? And also, like, hearing you talk about your relationship with Ben as this. I'll say, listening to your podcast has really made me rethink Ben's relationship with this. Because you've talked about how, like, Ben became a mirror for Michael, and I was like, oh, you know, maybe that's not a journey he wants to step back into, you know, and we can't speak for him. But it's lots of things where it's like, oh, what does it feel to be the muse or the surrogate for someone who is way older than you? Like, these are conversations that we look at and we're like, oh, where does Ben end and Michael begin?

[Ryder Strong]

Right.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

These are things that, you know, like, as audience members, we can speculate, but, like, for it being your real life, you may not want to revisit that.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, totally. Yeah. We recognize that there are a lot of reasons somebody could say, I don't want to step into this world. You know, it really. It's a choice. And so, you know, we totally understand. And yeah, I mean, I. I definitely I think I. I think I. I will take responsibility for being the one cutting that section out at the beginning because I think I felt this. I think I was probably the one who felt the strongest about it also, because there's also a certain sense of responsibility I feel. Feel because it's also my voice saying it. I'm the one does. Who does the intro. And when I'm. When I'm the person reading it and I'm the one then saying, and by the way, you know, Fred had this happen out of respect for. Not for Fred, who I do not have a relationship with, out of respect for Ben, who I think, you know, said to us, go do the podcast. I don't want to hold you back. But then obviously, once we did it, something very much changed. I just didn't want to add one more thing. Like, we already share effusively our stories and experiences with him and, and, you know, we think they are all positive, but he doesn't, you know, he may or may not like that. He may think even if it's a great story, he might be thinking, keep my name out of your mouth. I don't know. And so I know I. When I heard it and it was my voice, I had a fear that was Ben's going to hear it and he's going to be angry at me. Me for acknowledging this. And with. Coupled with the things writer said that I wasn't quite sure what it added to the dialogue of the situation. So I know that that was. That was my fear and it's what, you know, we have to make these decisions very quickly when we do the episodes. But, you know, hearing what you said, like Ryder said, you're. You're right that it probably was not. It wasn't the right choice with the social contract we have with our listenership.

[Will Friedle]

But I will say, Danielle, we all chose to cut it. It wasn't just on you. I know we definitely all chose to cut. Cut it out because again, we just. We just don't know. I mean, that's. So that's what it came down is like we literally have nothing we can add to this. We know exactly what everybody else does. And so, you know, you're right. We probably fumbled it where we should have at least acknowledged it, but that's all it would have been would be acknowledging what everybody else knows from the news because there's literally nothing we could add.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Sure, sure.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

I just want to say, Danielle, first of all, thank you so much for being vulnerable and sharing that with us, but also your Voices are so important, specifically yours, because we've seen this show continuously through a very specific lens. And something that we pride our podcast on is being able to be like, what about these other characters who very clearly have a voice, who very clearly, as we talked about earlier in this interview, should have had their own storylines? And like, this idea of, even at the end of the season, we're meeting Topanga's parents again, and they're nothing like. And we're like, they weren't at her graduation. They weren't at her engagement party. Like, you know, like, she doesn't have this. Any real support other than her friend who she met this year. Like, what is her story? That's kind of like what we keep coming back to. So you are the voice of not only Topango, but, like, you add a voice that is needed and. And to add to that, this podcast, even when the episodes aren't good, listening to the three of you have fun, make those episodes. There are episodes where I was like, I did not like this episode, but I liked listening to POD cover this episode because they were having so much fun that I don't care that, like, yeah, no, it doesn't make sense. It's a romp, and people just move forward. And I just wanted to give you credit for that because. Because we understand that certain people, certain demographics don't like it when a woman speaks, but we appreciate it because it gives insight and it gives voice to a lot of people who are sidelined.

[Danielle Fishel]

Thank you. I appreciate it very much.

[Ryder Strong]

Danielle, Writer.

[Will Friedle]

And I love when Danielle speaks, provided she doesn't get shrill.

[Ryder Strong]

It's a certain.

[Will Friedle]

She hits a tone and it's like, yikes. Oh, man. Nails on a chalkboard.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Well, for the. For the sake of lightening things up a little bit, I would love to jump into some season six superlatives with you guys.

[Ryder Strong]

Great.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Is there a favorite episode that comes to mind when you think about season.

[Danielle Fishel]

Six, God of the show, or of our podcast?

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, either.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Or either.

[Will Friedle]

I can't think of both of them at the same time, Danielle.

[Ryder Strong]

I mean, I mean, I think, you know, in terms of importance as far as an experience, the we'll have a good time then is just, you know, for me, it's like, oh, that's a seminal episode. It's obviously, I invested in the acting and had such a great experience, so that's always going to be super memorable for me.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, that's such a. That's a good one.

[Ryder Strong]

But, like, right now, I'm kind of really tempted to say The Be Brain episode.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, God. Which came out of nowhere. We hate that so much.

[Ryder Strong]

It was great.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Again, Be True was an episode that we hated. And I think it's, like, up there with, like, the worst. But listening to you cover it was hilarious. That being said, I cannot pretend, like, this episode. That episode is so terrible.

[Ryder Strong]

Ridiculous.

[Will Friedle]

I would say that, you know, culminating, obviously, with the ultimate episode for the arc. But I think the Tommy storyline for me was super important this season. It just showed, you know, it was playing off of. Was it last season where Eric dated the girl with the. Or season five or four. I can't remember which one it was, but dated the woman who had a child. I think they saw Eric and, you know, we. We always talk about Eric is very childlike, and he's also, like, we've, you know, said he's basically a golden retriever, which is. Which is what Eric does. So I think putting him with. With a kid, especially a kid who's vulnerable, I think is. Was some, you know, showed a great depth to Eric. So that that story arc meant a lot to me this season.

[Danielle Fishel]

I think Friendly Persuasion, where Trina really got a great opportunity to just do something. Yeah. And just say to Cory, like, listen, man, you've never put in an effort. Don't now suddenly make an effort because you wanna manipulate the situation. You're not my friend. You've never been my friend. I thought even though he was kind of annoying and pushing himself, I at least also appreciated that he cared enough. Like, he took the criticism and was like, well, I don't want that. You. Maybe you're right. I don't want that. How can I make this. How can I make this right? I appreciated that aspect of seeing their relationship. And for, you know, Trina is so good, and every time they give her something, she knocks it out of the park. And there's just not enough opportunities given to her in the season as at all. And similarly for Topanga, both their relationships are entirely. Both of their characters are entirely focused on how. How invested they are in the relationships with their partners. And that's it.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Tushy dance. I'd like to throw. I'd like to throw in cleavage. Brilliant episode. That's the one that'll probably go into.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

The Smithsonian, I think any, you know, after this season, obviously there was a lot of, you know, know, feelings about the characters not being who they were set up to be. But do you have a favorite character from season six?

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, my gosh.

[Ryder Strong]

I mean, Jack really grew for me too.

[Danielle Fishel]

I was Gonna say Jack.

[Will Friedle]

Jack was pretty. I mean, they didn't give him a whole lot to do, but Matt was killing it this season.

[Ryder Strong]

It's amazing. And he doesn't get enough attention or agreed.

[Will Friedle]

Yes, 100%.

[Ryder Strong]

But it's just really great. And like I, I, I. Yeah, maybe it's because I was coming in not expecting that, but I was really impressed with the arc and it makes sense and it's not in your face. And yeah, I'd also like to throw.

[Will Friedle]

Into the mix because it's the same kind of category of didn't, wasn't used enough. But when was used was incredible. Was Alan. I thought Rusty, I thought season six for Rusty with some of the stuff that he did from the stupid impressions at the end where he got a chance to be a little bit funny to, you know, being a dad again, even though that should have been an Amy episode. There was some stuff this season that I thought Rusty was really great. And then you couple in the fact that he was also directing some of the episodes too. I think Rusty Season 6. Rusty was a pretty great Rusty.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. I'm gonna stay with Jack. Jack, I think grew the most for me, had the biggest impact, surprised me the most. I just overall loved that. What do you think of when you hear Amazon prime delivery trucks outside your home?

[Ryder Strong]

Your favorite streaming shows, of course, but.

[Danielle Fishel]

There is so much more. Whatever you love, that's what prime is.

[Will Friedle]

Prime helps you get more out of whatever passions you're into and it helps you discover new ones.

[Danielle Fishel]

Just today I bought a new makeup remover for my brushes and a few collagen masks that I sleep in. And Amazon prime is perfect for my never ending obsession with beauty products. Not only do I get what I need incredibly fast, I can find myself going down a rabbit hole for all new items I didn't even know existed. Nail brightening treatment? Yes, please. Green tea clay mask. Yes. Add it to the haul.

[Ryder Strong]

And the fact that Amazon prime also puts hundreds of movies and TV shows right at your fingertips.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Trips.

[Will Friedle]

It's more than just same day delivery. It's a place to explore your passions.

[Danielle Fishel]

From streaming to shopping. It's on Prime.

[Will Friedle]

Visit Amazon.comprime to get more out of whatever you're into.

[Danielle Fishel]

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[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

We have a quick game that we want to do with you guys and we'll try to be as lightning fast as possible. But basically the game for season six is fill in the blank. Now, the blanks aren't quote, they're missing storylines that should have been included in the season.

[Will Friedle]

Nice.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Starting off. What happened to Nobody's Angels after the truck stop?

[Will Friedle]

Tragic truck accident. There's only one angel left. Three of them were killed. She's still there at the truck stopped.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Hold on.

[Ryder Strong]

The other three became angels and came back. And they perform.

[Will Friedle]

They perform. Three of them are angels and one of them is alive. Still brutal. Brilliant.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

I see. Angel crossover.

[Will Friedle]

Yes. Now it's called Somebody's Angels.

[Ryder Strong]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

I love it.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Okay, you're throwing Amy Matthews a baby shower. Where are her friends? Who are you inviting? What are you doing?

[Danielle Fishel]

The other realtors and.

[Will Friedle]

And some art gallery.

[Danielle Fishel]

Art gallery. And yeah, I'm also gonna say she's got some neighbor friends who where they raised kids in the same neighborh. And they probably come over as well.

[Will Friedle]

It's just so sweet.

[Danielle Fishel]

Maybe some wilderness store clients. Do we still have that?

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

You know, I don't even know if.

[Will Friedle]

That'S still a thing.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

We've really been excited to ask you this question. Who would you cast as Jack's stepfather?

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Often discussed but never seen.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

This is my wealthy stepfather.

[Will Friedle]

You know, who I absolutely would have used because he Was. He was brilliant and completely used wrong. I would have had Michael McKean play his stepfather and would have had a regular. You know, whether they bring back Peter Torque or not, you have a more hippie, crunchy Topanga's Dad. Because Michael McKeon would have been the great. I mean, he did it. He did the role just as Topanga's dad, which makes no sense. So I think he could have been a great step.

[Ryder Strong]

If anybody's on the table. Tom Cruise. Yes. You just have, like, he's like the ultimate, like, just perfect person. And Jack is like, ah, I'm never gonna live up to my. My stepdad. And he's got all the money and he's like, he wouldn't have done it.

[Will Friedle]

Because he would have to stand next to Maitland.

[Danielle Fishel]

Jensen is suggesting Ted McGinley.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, Ted's great.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

That's a really good.

[Will Friedle]

Would be great. Ted would be great.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Some options we came up with was like a Dylan McDermott to kind of like play into that, like, swath type. We also thought we could go completely ro and just cast like a ving Rhames and really throw people for a loop.

[Will Friedle]

That would have been great, too.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Okay.

[Will Friedle]

Idris Elba.

[Ryder Strong]

Yes.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Really to show a difference there. Okay, so last question, and this is for all of you. What is everyone's major?

[Danielle Fishel]

As our character.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Yeah, as your characters.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

As your characters. What are. What is everyone's major?

[Will Friedle]

I think Eric is clearly a communications major.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

Which is just a catch all for you're just in college. So.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Yeah, that is my major. So. Yes.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

There you go. There you go.

[Ryder Strong]

Sean, he's not doing photography, but he does end up being a photo. He ends up being a photojournalist.

[Will Friedle]

Right, but literally you'd be. Wouldn't Sean be literature?

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, I mean, yeah, probably. Probably English, I think.

[Danielle Fishel]

English.

[Will Friedle]

English lit.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Topanga.

[Danielle Fishel]

I don't know. I mean, Topanga, you know, wanted to go to Yale and we know, like, thinking about Girl Meets World, she becomes a lawyer. So I'm like, okay, what if she ends of going to law school? Would she? Yeah, Political science. I mean, she worked in a. She. That's probably a great one. Political science.

[Will Friedle]

I also think Topanga would clearly be one of those people that was a double major.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

It would be poly and something, you know, environmental, clean, you know, something like that. But they just got rid of that part of her. Her life entirely. So.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

I love the head cannon that you guys made that Penbrook is state. And that's the only way to explain like that, that gap. But yeah, Corey and Angela.

[Danielle Fishel]

I mean, I wish we knew one tiny thing about Angela so that I could tell you what I suspect it is. Although she seems really in tune with, like, human behavior. And I wouldn't be surprised if she's a psychology major.

[Will Friedle]

I could see that.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Yeah, she does write a paper about maintaining black identity with three very white friends.

[Ryder Strong]

There you go.

[Danielle Fishel]

There you go.

[Will Friedle]

She could also be. Because, you know, they. They do have her as such a strong woman. She also could be an African American studies major.

[Ryder Strong]

I mean, totally.

[Will Friedle]

She clearly could. Could. Could be doing that as well. Corey. I think Corey changes his major every year.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

That tracks Jack and Rachel.

[Will Friedle]

Rachel was going to Yale, apparently. Jack's business. Oh, Jack's a business major.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, business major. Yeah, yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Rachel, Rachel, studying hospitality.

[Will Friedle]

Being tall.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

She's going to Yale.

[Ryder Strong]

You don't go to Yale to study hospitality. She gave up her Yale.

[Will Friedle]

You can't. I mean, Cornell School of Hotel Management is like one of the best schools in the. In the. The country. So, I mean, it could be something.

[Ryder Strong]

Like the two of them end up going to Peace Corps.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. So maybe. Maybe International Business Studies or economics. Economics, maybe.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

But I see why you wanted to tie in hospitality. She's always doing something with food.

[Will Friedle]

Whether or not always doing something with food. Exactly.

[Danielle Fishel]

She. All of her storylines revolve around taking care of others or doing, you know, others, others, others. So I don't. That's why I was like, she could.

[Will Friedle]

Also be pre med, where she's then studying to be a doctor or a nurse or something along those lines as well. So there's a possibility she's on track for that too.

[Ryder Strong]

So she would be like a biology major or something.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, maybe. Yeah, something along those lines.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Well, we'll take this as canon because the show never addresses it whatsoever, but yeah. Thank you guys so much for chatting with us, answering our questions. We're really excited for you to get to season seven. We know it's the final season, but there are so many great things. I feel like Jack becomes the character he should have been the whole time in season seven.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, that's great.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

I feel like Eric is kind of thrown off the deep end, but in a way that's kind of more funny than it is this season. Like, this season it feels like he's a little bit more harsh, whereas the next season it feels more lighthearted to me personally.

[Will Friedle]

That's right. This is stuck in the couch and in the painting and okay, so yeah, we go.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

We go waxing, honeymoon. All of that stuff.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, the honeymoon episode cries for help.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

And we know you're always working on guests, but if you're able to get like a Marcia Cross or even a Mick Foley or something like that, like that, that would be a lot of fun.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Will Friedle]

I think Mick would be easy.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

We try to get everybody.

[Danielle Fishel]

We reach out to everybody all the time. And, yeah, anybody who hasn't been on the podcast yet is because they have either not been. We've not been able to work out their schedule, or because they have said no, but we ask everyone. But Marcia Cross will be a really fun one, too. I did also want to give a little footnote and say thank you both for honoring my request. I've never given you a request of what we can or cannot talk about in the recaps, ever. But this year, I. I did request that we not talk about one particular guest because I knew I would end up all over certain gossip websites tomorrow. And so I appreciate you honoring that request. However, in light of our conversation about the Everybody Loves Stewart episode, makes me feel like maybe it was the wrong thing, but I. I just didn't want to mention that person's name because it'll just be.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

That one was understandable.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

And can we just say, just as a blanket statement, one of our biggest takeaways from that episode was, like, I don't think people gave you guys the props for just having a hard conversation. Like, I feel like in today's day, it's so easy to burn bridges and write people off and not try to have a hard conversation or to overly edit it or polish or whatever. And it's just. I felt like it was so brave to just say, like, we're going to have a hard conversation. Whatever it is, it is what it is. And I feel like that's really the brand of Pod meets world. And what it's become over these six years is these guys saying, you know what? We're gonna have an authentic conversation. Whatever comes out, it's gonna come out, and we hope that you guys get something positive out of it, and we always do.

[Danielle Fishel]

Thank you both so much. Such a joy to see you. I really appreciate it.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

We love coming, and we're so happy to be here.

[Will Friedle]

Well, we're gonna be really happy and really sad to see you next time. I know that'll be the end for us. So, yeah, really happy to be.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

I feel like season seven recap will be even better because we get the entire season to talk about and really.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

The entire show series.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

You'll Be able to, like, see your characters from beginning to end. And I think just seeing you guys knowing that for the first time, the three of you and Jensen have never seen this before, and you get to really see the very beginning of your characters to the end. I'm sure you'll have a lot of questions, you'll have lots of comments, but we can say that season six has been the lowest. So I'm not saying how high it goes, but just know that you've. You've. You've gone through that journey, only you.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Got through the valley. You got through the heart, the hardest parts of it.

[Will Friedle]

Love that.

[Danielle Fishel]

Amazing. Thank you. Thank you both so much. Always a pleasure.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. Great to see you guys. Thanks.

[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Bye. Thank you.

[Danielle Fishel]

They're always so great and bring such a good perspective and point out things that, you know, even when there are.

[Will Friedle]

A couple things today that were like, I know.

[Ryder Strong]

Right on the running, you know, it was really nice to hear because there, you know, I. I did feel so much pressure this season to lean into the romp. Ness of it, but I feel like I actually started turning off a certain, like, analysis part of my brain and hearing, like, their thoughts. I was like, no, there's some. There's, like, consistent themes and things to read in here. Even if it. Even if you don't like it, it's okay to read those things and to point them out. And it's. It's inspiring me to, like, get back on my game as far as a podcaster and, like, start thinking about these things, like, a little, you know, because I just don't want to sound, like, too negative, but at the same time, like, there's parts of the show that should be great. Sure. There's just things being said by the show. Right. There's things that. That's what this is. This is storytelling. And Boy Meets World was actively telling a story and reading that and pointing out what it's saying. You know, that's. That's what we're here to do.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

I also think it's one of those things where we. We need to remind ourselves that. And we've talked about this before, that we're in very rarefied era of television. For a show going as long as it does and keeping the characters fresh and vibrant and storylines crisscrossing and adding new characters and getting rid of characters, it's not an easy thing to do. And we had phenomenal writers and producers that were doing that for us. And there is not a show in the history of television that has been 7, 8, 9, 10 years of bangers, right?

[Danielle Fishel]

Every single one. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Doesn't exist.

[Will Friedle]

So I don't care if you're MASH or Cheers. There are seasons of Cheers that weren't great. There are seasons of MASH that weren't great.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Great.

[Will Friedle]

That's just the way it works. And you know, I think people get that.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, thank you all for listening to this episode of Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us on Instagram Pod Meets World show. You can send us your emails. Pod meets worldshow gmail.com and we've got.

[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

We love you all. Pod to see. Dismissed. Pod Meets World is an iHeart podcast produced and hosted by Danielle Fishel, Will Friedle and Ryder Strong, executive producers Jensen Karp and Amy Sugarman, executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer and editor Tara Sudbaksh, producer Matty Moore, engineer and Boy Meets World superfan Easton Allen. Our theme song is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon and you can follow us on Instagram @podmeatsworldshow or email us @podmeatsworldshow. Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. It is hot out there this summer, right? But don't sweat it. We got tons of ways to save on your family's favorite personal care items to keep yourself feeling cool and smelling good. Now through September 9th, earn four times points when you shop for items from your favorite brands like Right Guard, Raw Sugar, Dove Soft Soap and Olay. Then use your points for discounts on groceries or gas on future purchases. Purchases offer end September 9th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.

[Ryder Strong]

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[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

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[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

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[TC (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

Please welcome aboard the Johnson Family.

[Siege (Bruh Meets World co-host)]

The whole fam's here for the Disney Cruise. So you know we came to play and listen. The adults are gonna have a ball. First we're chilling in the infinity pool, onto massages at Sense's Spa, then gliding into Star Wars Hyperspace Lounge for a toast. We're even gonna kick back with Mickey on Disney's private island. That's how we get down. Cause Disney Cruise Line is where we came to play.

[Danielle Fishel]

This is an iHeart podcast.