Buffalo Dreams

Summary

Pod Meets World - Episode: "Buffalo Dreams"

Release Date: April 16, 2025
Host/Authors: Danielle, Will Friedle, and Rider
Description: In this nostalgic episode, the hosts delve into Disney's 2005 fantasy comedy "Buffalo Dreams." They dissect the film's plot, characters, cultural representations, and overall execution, providing listeners with an insightful analysis filled with personal anecdotes and critical observations.

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1. Introduction to "Buffalo Dreams"

At [08:03], Will Friedle introduces the episode by shifting focus to the 2005 Disney Channel Original Movie (DCOM) "Buffalo Dreams." He sets the stage by comparing the filming locations and highlighting its 20th anniversary celebration. Despite being set in New Mexico, the movie was primarily filmed in Utah, with notable scenes shot on Antelope Island.

Will Friedle:
"Now, this movie debuted on the channel on March 11, 2005, celebrating its 20th anniversary right now. And as I alluded to, the movie is supposed to be taking place in New Mexico, but is actually filmed in the DCOM capital of the USA, Utah, with several scenes shot on Antelope Island."

2. Cultural Representation and Criticisms

A significant portion of the discussion centers around the portrayal of the Navajo culture within the film. Will points out that "Buffalo Dreams" received criticism for its inaccurate and offensive depiction of Navajo traditions and people. He emphasizes the movie's fundamental inaccuracies, such as the unlikely interaction between Navajos and buffalo—a species not integral to their nomadic culture.

Will Friedle:
"The film shows Navajos interacting with buffalo. It's like the title of the movie and basically the entire plot. But those animals are not part of their culture or mythology as Navajos are considered nomadic people, not plains people. So big whoops there."

Sabrina Bryan:
"Buffalo struck out at me really quickly... They made mistakes with the portrayal of Navajo ceremonies, language, and the use of 'Indian' names for non-Navajo characters."

The hosts agree that more authentic involvement of Native American cast and crew could have mitigated these issues, reflecting on Hollywood's gradual shift towards better representation in recent years.

3. Personal Experiences and Initial Impressions

Both hosts share their initial encounters with "Buffalo Dreams." Sabrina admits she hadn't heard of the movie prior to their podcast and was primarily excited due to the presence of familiar actors. Will echoes her sentiments, expressing his lack of nostalgia for DCOMs but recognizing the effort to uncover hidden gems.

Sabrina Bryan:
"I didn't know that either. I'm like, you guys live together? She goes sometimes. She lived in LA when I was still in school, so maybe that's when it was okay."

Will Friedle:
"I am a person who does not do social media... But sometimes I'll go on my finsta and I looked at the comments for what I said about double teamed."

Their shared frustration with certain movie elements, such as overused shower scenes and unrealistic bike portrayals, sets a critical tone for their review.

4. Detailed Plot Breakdown and Scene Analysis

The hosts provide a comprehensive synopsis of the movie, highlighting key plot points and character developments.

• Opening Scene:
  Josh Townsend, a city boy, relocates to New Mexico, grappling with fitting into the local Native American community. His new environment includes impressive landscapes and a generous but somewhat superficial gesture from his parents—providing him with a beat-up bike.

  Will Friedle:
  "Josh can't believe this is where he lives now. It's New Mexico. It's Utah. The family finally makes a stop at a Native American trading post..."

• Meeting the Locals:
  Josh interacts with Thomas Blackhorse, a Navajo boy, and Scout, Thomas's sister who communicates through sign language due to past trauma from a car crash that took their parents' lives.

  Sabrina Bryan:
  "I just wanted to be able to go there... She's like, mommy, why is she giving him a necklace? Is that Moana's necklace?"

• Cultural Conflicts and Bonds:
  The narrative explores Josh's struggles to align his interests (BMX biking) with the community's expectations. His relationship with the Navajo characters deepens as he learns about their traditions and the importance of the buffalo to their heritage.

  Will Friedle:
  "Josh is trying to fit in more, especially when he hears another kid making fun of his bike. So he quickly blurts out that he knows somewhere they can all go swimming."

5. Character Performances and Casting

The episode delves into the performances of the movie's cast, praising Simon Baker's portrayal of Thomas Blackhorse and George Newbern as Dr. Nick Townsend.

Will Friedle:
"Simon, born in Vancouver, Canada, has been seen in movies like Smoke Signals, Shanghai Noon, now and Forever and I Robot. He just jumped off the screen to me. He really did. He just was awesome."

Sabrina Bryan:
"Jane Sibbet is Blaine Townsend. She is most recognizable from Friends, where she played Carol on 15 episodes of arguably the most popular sitcom ever... some great veteran actors as the parents in this one."

The hosts commend the veterans for bringing depth to their roles, although they note some inconsistencies, such as adult actors portraying 12-year-olds.

6. Visual and Special Effects

Will critiques the movie's technical aspects, particularly the unrealistic portrayal of thunderstorms and buffalo interactions.

Will Friedle:
"Some of the buffalo shots didn't look. You could tell were superimposed. The storms looked great."

Sabrina Bryan:
"They didn't look bad at all."

They acknowledge the scenic beauty of Utah but point out the overuse and inconsistency in special effects, affecting the movie's realism.

7. Themes and Messages

"Buffalo Dreams" aims to convey messages about respect, tradition, and belonging. The hosts discuss how the film attempts to blend Navajo traditions with a coming-of-age BMX storyline, though they feel the execution falls short due to cultural inaccuracies and plot inconsistencies.

Sabrina Bryan:
"I loved her way of finding a way to communicate. And I thought the way they used it throughout the movie was really great."

Will appreciates the film's intention to introduce diverse cultures to young audiences but laments the lack of authenticity.

8. Critical Reception and Ratings

The hosts engage in a playful rating segment, assigning humorous ratings to various elements of the movie.

Will Friedle:
"I would also give it seven Buffalo Karens because I also, I like. I think one of Disney's jobs, frankly, is bringing cultures that other kids might not be exposed to to them, to their house. That's something Disney's wonderful at."

Sabrina Bryan:
"I gave him buffers Karens out of ten."

They conclude that while "Buffalo Dreams" has its flaws, it offers valuable lessons and moments that resonate, making it a worthwhile watch despite its shortcomings.

9. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

In wrapping up, Will and Sabrina reflect on the importance of accurate cultural representation and the potential impact of such movies on young audiences. They encourage listeners to view "Buffalo Dreams" with a critical eye but also recognize its efforts to diversify storytelling within the DCOM genre.

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Notable Quotes

• Will Friedle at [08:03]:
  "Buffalo Dreams... is supposed to be taking place in New Mexico, but is actually filmed in the DCOM capital of the USA, Utah."

• Sabrina Bryan at [12:07]:
  "I was expecting buffalo, but I wasn't expecting the Navajo tribe. So I just really was like, whoa. Oh, okay."

• Will Friedle at [26:43]:
  "I'm glad the way you told that story, though, because I thought you were gonna say the way you started it. My friend married a buffalo, and that would have been a much different story."

• Sabrina Bryan at [57:15]:
  "YES. They're amazing. Aren't they the best? They're amazing."

• Will Friedle at [72:14]:
  "That was my movie, seriously. Five stars."

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Final Rating

Will Friedle: ★★★★☆☆ (7/10)
Sabrina Bryan: ★★★☆☆ (7/10)

Both hosts agree that "Buffalo Dreams" strikes a balance between its educational intent and entertainment value, making it a moderate success in their eyes.

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Key Takeaways

• Cultural Representation Matters: Accurate and respectful portrayal of indigenous cultures is crucial in media to avoid perpetuating stereotypes and misinformation.

• Storytelling Balance: Blending different genres or themes, such as BMX biking with Navajo traditions, requires careful execution to resonate effectively with audiences.

• Impact on Youth: Films like "Buffalo Dreams" play a significant role in introducing diverse cultures to young viewers, highlighting the responsibility of creators to ensure authenticity and respect.

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Transcript

[Will Friedle]

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[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh I knew it.

[Will Friedle]

It's so funny. So here's the thing I wanted to say because people forget this. This is one of the reasons I love doing this podcast with you is because you have some nostalgia attached to some of these. I have none. No, literally nothing. I cannot watch these. As a teen, I Do not get the feels. I just watch them as movies. So I was thinking about double teamed as a movie which again, absolutely. Stand by what I said. Not a good movie. I will double teamed down on that. Thank you very much. Not a good movie. But I get where people are coming from because I think of movies that I loved as a kid like Rad, BMX Bandits, Breakin. These are actually films.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Right.

[Will Friedle]

That are hugely important to me. Cause they're awesome to me.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

But the thing people need to remember without having any nostalgia is we are trying to find the gems in the dcoms. Because you also have movies that have nostalgia attached but that are great. Like I go back to Karate Kid.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Great movie. Ton of nostalgia.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And stand the test of time.

[Will Friedle]

Yes.

[Sabrina Bryan]

You know what I mean? Things that like really actually are still super. I mean not saying that double team's not. Because I think it's actually really amazing what's happening in the WNBA right now. So that messaging is there, but yeah, some of the things just especially again, what you have to remember is not everyone that's watching or looking at our Instagram is actually going back and rewatching every single one of the movies like we are.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Sabrina Bryan]

So we're also kind of comparing the gems to the. The missing. The marks. The.

[Will Friedle]

Exactly.

[Sabrina Bryan]

The ones that almost hit it or the ones that. You know what I mean? And we're watching them even side by side. Other sports related movies, you know, girl. Girl brand movies. You know, things like that. It's like we're kind of. It's. It's different for us because we're really diving into every single one versus. I'm sure the fans are kind of nitpicking which ones they feel like watch. Like re listening to because they were their favorites.

[Will Friedle]

Exactly. That's what I'm saying. And it's also they have to remember I'm almost a 50 year old man who has never seen these movies.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

So I am just watching them as movies. That being said to all the people who, who who were upset about what I said about double teamed, I will say this. That movie sucked.

[Sabrina Bryan]

You know what I'll say too though? Have their kids watch it and see what their kids think. Because let me tell you, one of my very good friends. Very good friends goes, I'm so excited. I'm introducing Zoe to the Cheetah Girls tonight.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And I didn't get the message until later and I would have said do not do the first movie, but you.

[Will Friedle]

Have to start at the first one.

[Sabrina Bryan]

No, I know but the nostalgia that happens instantly gets zapped by a little kid who goes, and this is exactly what little Zozo and I love my zozo. Zozo said about my first movie was, ew, mom, it looks so old. Like, how long ago was this? Because it's like grainy and it wasn't.

[Will Friedle]

It's like the old timey projector.

[Sabrina Bryan]

So it's the same thing. Like when you're not of the generation, you see these things totally different. I mean, this was like a little kid. I was like, ouch.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, Zoe, I know that hurt a little bit. It's true though. No. So everybody out there who's following us on this journey, I get it. I get that these movies hugely matter to you. And it's like, why are you ripping apart Double Teamed? Because I'm just watching it as a movie. The same way anybody who did not grow up watching Rad or Breakin or BMX Bandits, they'd watch it and they go, this movie sucks. And I'd be like, are you kidding? This is the best movie ever. But at the end of the day, they do kind of suck. But I, I still like them. You can still like a movie that's not great.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

I have no nostalgia attached is all I'm saying.

[Sabrina Bryan]

If we weren't breaking it down, what the hell would this podcast.

[Will Friedle]

Exactly. It would just be us going like, wow, double teamed. Awesome movie, great movie.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And we can't get to Red. They're both blonde, they play basketball.

[Will Friedle]

They were 28 year old actors playing 12 year olds and with lines like, how do you tell them apart when they were clearly different people? Not great to do in a movie.

[Sabrina Bryan]

But I knew, I knew that's.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, I did too.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Kind of funny. As soon as I we started the podcast, I'm like, this one's going to. We're going to get it. We are going to get those knives.

[Will Friedle]

Thrown from now on, by the way. I'm going to refer to that to get it. To people bashing us for us breaking down a movie as getting brinked. Because that was the first time it happened to me when I did not realize what I was wading into by going, you know, this isn't a great movie. And oh, it came.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I know. As same thing as you were saying. Every word of it. I was like, oh man, he is going to get, get it.

[Will Friedle]

I got Brinks.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, the Brinkers are gonna come for Will.

[Will Friedle]

The Brink. The Brinkheads. I am fine with that, by the way. I stand by everything I said, love what you gotta love. But understand that not everyone's gonna. And my job, literally my job is to break down these movies with my humble opinion, which is all that I have. And in my humble opinion, which is absolutely 100% correct, double team was not a good movie. Welcome back to Magical Rewind, the show that makes you wanna grab your friends, your PJs and your popcorn and go back to a time when all the houses are smart, the wave, tsunamis, and the doubles teamed. I'm Will Friedle.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And I'm Sabrina Bryan.

[Will Friedle]

This week on Magical Rewind, we're leaving the big D city behind and we're traveling to New Mexico via Utah to learn some Navajo traditions, or at least Disney's version of it. It's 2005's American Western Buffalo Dreams. Now, this movie debuted on the channel on March 11, 2005, celebrating its 20th anniversary right now. And as I alluded to, the movie is supposed to be taking place in New Mexico, but is actually filmed in the DCOM capital of the usa, Utah, with several scenes shot on Antelope Island. Now here's the interesting thing. IMDb actually says that this movie, based on its awareness and search history, is one of the three least remembered DCOMs of all time. Not sure exactly why that would be the case, but at the time of its release, it did receive criticism for its portrayal of the Navajo people and their culture, which many from within found to be offensive and worse than offensive. In my opinion, horribly inaccurate. Some examples of mistakes they made, and the first one is a big one. The film shows Navajos interacting with buffalo. It's like the title of the movie and basically the entire plot. But those animals are not part of their culture or mythology as Navajos are considered nomadic people, not plains people. So big whoops there. There were also issues with the portrayal of Navajo ceremonies, language, and the use of quote unquote Indian names for non Navajo characters. And all of this could have been helped by probably having more Native American cast and crew on the set, you think? But that's really only something that luckily has been adapted by Hollywood over the past few years. So this one might not be as historically accurate as anyone wanted it to be. And for many reasons it is difficult to research in 2025. So yeah, we're gonna do our best with this one. Our producers still do the deep dive and do an amazing job and we got a lot on it, but this was a hard one to do some research for. And so maybe that makes this next part very predictable. But Sabrina, did you know About Buffalo Dreams before we were watching it on our lovely podcast.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I didn't. I was just excited. I was like, oh, this is gonna be such a good movie with these two actors that I know for sure are in it. Oh, my gosh. So excited. That's where it started and ended for me.

[Will Friedle]

I am in the same starting and ending point as you hadn't heard of it, knew the cast was good, and that was about it. Yeah. All right, let's start our journey together with the synopsis. A city boy moves to New Mexico and struggles to fit in with the local Native American community. But when he befriends a young Navajo local and his grandfather, he learns a valuable lesson about respect, tradition, and belonging. And as always. Well, not as always, but this time, thankfully, you can watch Buffalo Dreams on Disney. It's available to stream right now, so don't fumble this one like you fumbled Scarlett Groomberg back in the fourth grade. That was embarrassing. Sabrina, what were your early thoughts? Your thoughts together? What did you think of Buffalo Dreams?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Well, I instantly clocked Utah, but was excited that we were getting to a different part of Utah.

[Will Friedle]

Yes. We're not in Salt Lake.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes. And I will tell you something that is really funny. And I even text message Keely about it. One of the first voices we hear is over the radio, and I'm like, adrian's in this movie. What I hear. I mean, I can't. There's no way to mistake her voice for me. So I instantly am, like, looking up. You know, I don't look up anything. I watch it just as is. And then I look at the stuff that we're given to and also do some other, like, little questions that I have. And I was like, oh, my gosh. And I text posted Keely. And Keely's like, I didn't know that either. I'm like, you guys live together? She goes sometimes. She lived in LA when I was still in school, so maybe that's when it was okay.

[Will Friedle]

She had the cool radio voice, too.

[Sabrina Bryan]

She did, yeah. She's. I mean, she grew up loving radio in New York City, so she exact. I mean, I bet you anything if you asked her, she probably definitely tried out her own radio voice over and over again in her room. Like, that's how she is. I love it.

[Will Friedle]

That's cool.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And it worked amazingly in this movie. And I love it.

[Will Friedle]

It did.

[Sabrina Bryan]

That was my earliest thought. And I was just like, that's what I was doing for the first 10 minutes is texting Keely, looking it up, doing all that while I'm still trying to, you know, like, focus in on the movie.

[Will Friedle]

But did you like the movie?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I was so. I mean, from the beginning, I was excited. I. I love getting into this culture. And, you know, I'm very, like, I, I. I love learning as much as I can about it, but, you know, there were things where I'm like, I don't know if that's super correct. And being a big Yellowstone person, they are. They look like they do so much research. And again.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, Yellowstone the show. I thought you meant the actual, like.

[Sabrina Bryan]

No, Yellowstone the show. And it's like you can tell the difference. And for me, I thought it was a little shocking because I feel like Disney does a really good job of looking into things and really making sure that they're on point. But, yeah, there was a couple things, like, right from the beginning when I was like, ooh, I don't know.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, well, yeah, for me, Disney is. First of all, they're very good at bringing cultures that maybe kids won't be exposed to to kids around the world. That's something they've always been great at. But apparently in this one, they just didn't do that great a job with the actual research. So you want them to bring the actual culture as opposed to just the Disney version of the culture?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah. And the buffalo struck out at me really quickly.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, Well, I mean, it's the point of the whole movie. And it turns out I have nothing to do with the Navajo tribe at all.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I was expecting buffalo, but I wasn't expecting the Navajo tribe. So I just really was like, whoa. Oh, okay.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, buffalo. Odd. This, to me, is also the definition of just this movie was. Was okay. I mean, it was. This was not an outstanding movie. This was not a terrible movie. This was just. This is okay. There's certain members of the cast that stood out to me that I just thought were great, but, yes, it's. Yeah, this is. This is an okay movie. Like, I. I finished it, and I was like, okay, watch the movie. It wasn't like, oh, my God. This is. There's a couple times I was yelling at the screen, and I heard my wife in the other room going, like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm yelling at the screen. And we'll get into that. We have a new name popping in as director for this week's film. It's David Jackson. David is a very seasoned veteran in the business. His first job was on the iconic show Miami Vice. Ugh. I dressed like Don Johnson until I was 12 in 1986. I did it was the white on white or blue on blue with just a T shirt underneath and then rolling up the sleeves of the jacket. I looked bad as the kids would say. Fire. He directed other shows like 21 jumps street. Great show. Swamp Thing. Great show. Nash Bridges, One Tree Hill and TV movies like the Jesse Ventura Story, which is just about a gruff guy and his only other dcom return to Halloween Town. He is still working on TV movies like the Last Christmas Home, the Cheerleader Murders and Cup of Love. This movie stars Riley McClendon as Josh. Riley began his career on shows like Will and Grace, Touched by an angel and er, but was also seen in movies like Disney's the Kid, Pearl harbor and another dcom, Eddie's Million Dollar Cook. Off the instant he popped on screen. I knew him from a really well known Law and Order SVU episode where he plays twins, twin boy and girls. And he was great. And producer Lisa is just writing yes. And Chandler.

[Sabrina Bryan]

He played a twin girl and a.

[Will Friedle]

Twin girl and a twin boy and they were supposed to be twin boys and they screwed up his circumcision as a child so they cut off the remaining part and tried to raise him as a girl. It was a crazy story. It's a great svu. I forget what it. It might even be called Twins, but that's. Sorry. Off on an SVU tangent. He was last on TV a few years back. From NCIS Los Angeles to Days of Our Lives, Simon Baker is Thomas Blackhorse. Simon, born in Vancouver, Canada, has been seen in movies like Smoke Signals, Shanghai Noon, now and Forever and I Robot. He also recently hosted a show called Native Planet where he travels around the globe to discover the unique relationship Native Americans have with the environment by visiting Native communities, fighting to preserve their surroundings and way of life. Sounds like a cool show. And he just jumped off the screen to me. This dude is a star. He really did. He just was awesome. And then we got my friend George newburn. He is Dr. Nick Townsend, Josh's dad. George is best known for some classics, Adventures in Babysitting, Father of the Bride, Scandal, and one not so classic, dcom dad Napped. Our favorite, no notice, nobody came after me for bashing Dadnak. I mean, come on. He's been in just about everything and is a prolific voice actor as well, most notably as my man Superman in much of the modern DC animated projects. He and I have worked together many times. He is as nice as you would expect him to be. Jane Sibbet is Blaine Townsend. Josh's mom. She is most recognizable from Friends, where she played Carol on 15 episodes of arguably the most popular sitcom ever.

[Sabrina Bryan]

She was only in 50 episodes.

[Will Friedle]

I know.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Can you believe that?

[Will Friedle]

I would also say possible Cheers is in that conversation. Mash is in that conversation. And I would also say Seinfeld is in the conversation. I'm sorry, I had to get the other ones in there. She also starred in a great show we've talked about before, Herman's Head, and appeared on Cheers, Quantum Leap, and the Nanny. Love that list. Some great veteran actors as the parents in this one. And they both killed it too. Which then, speaking of veteran actors, brings us to Graham Green as John Blackhorse, a well known Native American character actor. Graham was in movies like the Green Mile, Wind River, Dances with Wolves, North Maverick and Molly's Game. This guy always works. He's still working to this day. He is phenomenal. And we have. I'm gonna say friend of the show because fellow member of the Cheetah Girls. Can you, can you go ahead and tell me who this is, please?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Adrian Balon.

[Will Friedle]

That's right. As DJ Domino. What a great name. I gotta put that on our list. DJ Domino is just one of the cooler names we've had. Adrian was a former member of the girl r B Group 3 LW, as we all know, then was cast as Chanel in the Cheetah Girls franchise. She also appeared on that's so Ra, the movie Coach Carter, and most recently the Masked Singer, which apparently is not what I thought it was. I thought it was just one person in a mask singing all the songs, but I guess they switched them up. This movie is. Wait for it, people, 89 minutes. Oh. One extra shot of Buffalo's walking and we could have hit the target. But hey, it's only one away and it's on the right side of the pendulum, so we'll give it a big thumbs up. Anyway. Marjorie Schwartz Nielsen wrote the movie. She wrote the 1991 film the Butcher's Wife starring Demi Moore and Jeff Daniels, then Buffalo Dreams, and that was it. So not a ton of the resume there. Adding to the mystique that is Buffalo Dreams.

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Catch the new Hulu original comedy Mid Century Modern, from the creators of Will and Grace, executive producer Ryan Murphy and director James Burroughs. When three best friends move in together, Palm Springs will never be the same. Bunny, Jerry and Arthur are already close friends, but when they decide to live together, it's a new chapter with a new family. And speaking of family, don't forget Bunny's mom, Sybil, who's along for the ride. Whether it's a trip to Fire island or a local congresswoman with a wild side, these roomies know how to do it with style. They're fun, they're fabulous, and they're turning life's lemons into spiked lemonade. So shake up a batch of cocktails, relax by the pool, and get ready for some serious shade. A new comedy with heart, soul and sass. Mid Century Modern stars Nathan Lane, Matt Bomer, Nathan Leigh Graham and Linda Lavin. All episodes of Mid Century Modern are now streaming on Hulu.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, why don't we jump off this cliff into the river? It's time to Buffalo dream. The movie starts on the open road. Teenage Josh Townsend is sleeping on a long drive passing stampeding Buffalo, finally awoken by a passing horn. He's with his mom and Dad, Dr. Nick and Blaine, and checks his flip phone. I love them. They're moving somewhere that's even beyond cell service. They do get a local radio station, however. And as Sabrina was saying, there's breaking news. It's her friend on the radio. There are seven newborn calves on the Danata buffalo preserves. I'm also apologizing to everybody for the undoubted butchering of the Navajo words that I'm going to be saying. I truly apologize. I just don't know how they're pronounced right and I don't have the movie in front of me right now. Josh can't believe this is where he lives now. It's New Mexico. It's Utah. It's Utah. The family finally makes a stop at a Native American trading post and are greeted by a local, John Blackhorse, whose granddaughter signs. There goes the neighborhood. Inside the post, they have a lot of different jerky, including rabbit jerky, which actually sounds really good. The clerk, Abuela Rose, welcomes the family to town and forces them to buy fry bread and beef jerky. She also offers them batteries. But they draw the line. No, thanks, we don't need them. They're back on the road. They arrive at their big, beautiful home and Sabrina, were you jealous like I was? Because the land and the mountains and that house and it was just stunning. It looked great.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Stunning. I love too one of the first shots of his mom and dad just sitting there enjoying the sunset.

[Will Friedle]

Yep.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Absolutely.

[Will Friedle]

Because when you've got that sunset, you don't need Instagram. You can just sit there and.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And it's enjoy the quiet, enjoy just the. The fresh air. Oh, man.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Believe it or not, the world is much better. Than Instagram. So don't take the pictures, people. Go actually look at the scenery. Josh then rushes in to see a surprise. It's a beat up old bike and helmet. They buy this beautiful home somewhere. They can't get the kid a new bike, but anyway, he knows it's quote unquote weak, but he. He's also cool about it. He's like, hey, it's wheels. His last bike was stolen, and Nick thought since they relocated because of his new science job, it was a Good present. Oh, Dr. Nick, just get the kid a real bike. Josh is quick to take the bike out for a spin, pretending to be in a big televised race announcing his every move. In the distance, he sees some workers and he speeds up. As he gets closer, he comes to a screeching halt, realizing they're moving a giant plate of glass, something that only happens in the movies. He avoids the collision, but after a second, the plate just shatters into a million pieces. Did you jump when this happened? I had a little jump scare.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I thought he was gonna go straight through it. I did not think he was gonna, like, hold it. And he did. And then I was like, how would that just shatter out of nowhere?

[Will Friedle]

I think they were trying to show that the guy dropped it maybe, but it was shot in a closeup, so it was strange, but I was like, oh, he's gonna go through a plate glass window. Josh is killed. Roll credits.

[Sabrina Bryan]

That was a quick movie.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, but that did not happen. So Josh rides off saying, hey, that wasn't my fault. Later that night, Josh's parents are sitting on the new porch watching just an amazing sunset again, very jealous. It just looked phenomenal. Then a thunderstorm began. Oh. Which I. Oh, man, it's my favorite thing in the world.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Amazing to watch, right?

[Will Friedle]

I love a thunder and lightning storm. It is my favorite thing in the world. But then the power goes out. None of their flashlights work. They need batteries. Ah, the trading post. Now we're in a new house. It's the local man that we saw at a trading post, John Blackhorse. He and his wife, Abuela Rose, are just waking up, giving blessings in Navajo to the land around them. Meanwhile, Josh is looking through a telescope outside his new room and sees a blonde kid dancing in the field. He bikes out to learn more, but is stopped by a car. He bikes just right in front of this truck as the truck's driving by.

[Sabrina Bryan]

The street, trying to die. Twice. This is the second time this kid is trying to just leave this place.

[Will Friedle]

I'm just gonna ride my Crap bike. Right in front of this speeding truck. And it turns out that the car is driven by a Navajo boy, Thomas Blackhorse, and his little sister, Scout, who was the person we saw using sign language at the Trading Post with her grandpa. Thomas alerts Josh, there's no riding on the trails. No dirt heads, AKA BMX bikers, allowed. I love that you, dirt head. Everybody's got an accent. Like, everybody's got a nickname. As things get tense, the dancing blonde boy, Moon, scurries over and calms the situation by introducing everybody. Thomas doesn't seem interested in getting to know Josh, but then he joins Moon in singing Lean on Me. Luring a lost buffalo into the truck, the team of Thomas, Moon, and Scout drive off with their new catch, leaving Josh in the dust. And I loved them all sitting there and softly singing to get that cute little buffalo out of. I'm sorry. I was like, that's awesome. It was weird at first. And I was like, I kind of love this.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I cannot believe you can't handle a musical, but you can handle this.

[Will Friedle]

Well, you don't want to know why? Because it was real.

[Sabrina Bryan]

There's just singing. There's singing to buffalo.

[Will Friedle]

But it's like, this is how we get about.

[Sabrina Bryan]

That's okay to you.

[Will Friedle]

If they all had perfect harmony, singing a song where it was like, let's sing about the buffalo come and they're all in a dance, then I would have hated it.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Really?

[Will Friedle]

I was just singing to get them out. I thought it was so cute.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, my God. And you just know. I'm like, no, please, no. And I just. I'm like, damn it. This is going to happen over and over again in this movie. I can tell this is going to be a thematic freaking situation. We're going to have to hear all these people sing.

[Will Friedle]

I loved it. Anyway, later.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I braced myself. You just leaned in.

[Will Friedle]

I did. I did.

[Sabrina Bryan]

At least we're on the same page.

[Will Friedle]

Still on me, Sabrina, when you need a little buffalo. Oh, I loved it.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Absolutely not, Will.

[Will Friedle]

I loved it. Later, Josh and his dad are driving to the lab. It appears Josh got a summer job at his dad's work. And I was trying to remember. Is this the first dcom we've seen with no school? Who?

[Sabrina Bryan]

No, no.

[Will Friedle]

Where did. Where. What other dcom have we seen where there's no school?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Camp Rock is over the summer.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, that's the summer. You're right.

[Sabrina Bryan]

But they are lear learning music, right?

[Will Friedle]

It is still. It's a school kind of environment, but it's not really school. That's a good call. Zombies. There's a school. Cheetah Girls. There's a school, yeah. Oh, the orphanage one, we're being told.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, yeah, the orphanage was one where the guy. The. Remember the kid had the inventions. He was flying.

[Will Friedle]

Yes, yes, the one with Andrea, Barbara and Jaleel. Yes, yes. Okay, that one. You're right. No school in that one. Where you thought there was actually ways to launch newspapers in the 80s and we just lost the technology. Yes, I remember that. Okay, we'll figure out what that is. But anyway.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Is that the same one?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Remember it starts with her role.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Inventor kid made that.

[Will Friedle]

Yep.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Awesome thing that I just can't believe isn't.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, so you're right. There have been a couple. The local radio station's back on and we see DJ Domino, played by again, fellow Cheetah Girl, and she's interviewing a veterinarian. A caller is mad that a buffalo charged her truck. But Josh stops listening when he sees Thomas Blackhorse leaving the Trading Post and being bullied by some white kids on bikes. What a bunch of real dirt heads. Josh eventually arrives at his dad's new work, the New Mexico Astrophysics Research Center. A co worker, Virgil, gives Josh his ID badge and shows him around. Josh feels like a real dork, especially when he gets to his office, which is a tiny little copying room. And that's going to be his job all summer. Is just making endless copies. Yikes. Back at the Trading Post, Blaine is now voluntarily buying batteries. The clerk says the power always comes back on and offers her a handful of dried corn products. Blaine notices a flyer asking for volunteers to protect the buffalo. Then the little girl from the truck, Scout Black Horse, appears. She works there since the clerk, Abuela Rose, is her grandma. Abuela Rose admits they could use Josh's help with the buffalo, and he'd like that way more than working at the lab. Who wouldn't? Outside all day with animals? Hell yes, I will take that. Speaking of Josh, he's starting to get so bored in the copy room, he starts xeroxing his face. Sabrina, have you ever xeroxed any part of you before?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Okay, I'm.

[Will Friedle]

I just asked. Any part of you.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I mean, geez, Lord.

[Will Friedle]

Well, sometimes people hop up and they do their butt. I'm just saying, have you ever xeroxed any part of you before?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah, I honestly in my Sabrina seas, my parents, because they worked out of the house, they were real estate agents, so they had all their equipment and I put my like, face your hands. I'd prop my feet Up. I put my cat up there with her paws. I mean, okay, that was something my dad and my dad reacted exactly this way. You are wasting so much ink. Please stop, Sabrina. Like I would try to hide them and it just always like, Sabrina, stop using the copy machine.

[Will Friedle]

See, I like it. That's why I asked. You said several body parts there. There you go. I didn't have to say face. We now find ourselves back in the radio station. Domino has new guests. Kyle and his dumb friends, the Dirt Heads, who are harassing Thomas, by the way. Weakest gang in the history of the Decons. I know.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And I seriously.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, just the week they're like, he's their gangs and they're the bad guys.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I was like about the three of them were just, oh, this is not.

[Will Friedle]

Johnny and the Cobra Kai by any stretch from Karate Kid. Yeah. Just lame. Yes, just lame. Anyway, they. The Dirt Heads were that were harassing Thomas at the Trading Post are these guys and they're looking for people to join them. BMX biking Friday at the Red Rocks. They were. They're doing their mountain biking stuff. So we're now back in the field. Thomas and his grandpa, John Blackhorse, are walking to a sweat lodge and talking about the young man's future plans. They find an herb that can heal, but Thomas reminds his grandpa it still can't get Scout's voice back. John Blackhorse tells his grandson that herding the buffalo is his job, and it's very helpful for the community and a great start in life. Back at the Townsends, Blaine is taking pictures for her upcoming cookbook while Josh talks about how much he hates his new job. And Dr. Nick reveals that his son accidentally included his copied face in a report. And he's certainly not thrilled about it. Better than, well, the parts of Sabrina. Blaine mentions the Navajo clerk at the Trading Post needing some buffalo help. But Josh says he met Thomas and that guy was a real jerk. But his mom says if he helps with the herd, he can ride his bike there. And so it's a deal. And they're setting up that he obviously just loves to be on his bike. He rides all the way to the buffalo preserve and is coldly greeted by Thomas. Scout Moon Moon offers him some gloves, while Thomas only offers him some attitude. After some false start hazing, he jumps into the truck and is now part of the crew. They accept him right away. It was kind of nice. And again, this entire time, Simon Baker to me, was just stealing every scene he was in. He's a very good actor.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

He quickly learns about wiring fences to block in the buffaloes because he learns that the buffaloes can be aggressive if they get into town. Have you ever seen a buffalo up close and personal?

[Sabrina Bryan]

One of the things I'm going to talk about with Sabrina sees I. My friend got married to a guy whose family was a bison ranchers. So she got married on a buffalo farm. And I experienced lots of buffalo, different kinds of meats that, I mean. And I came back like a giant swollen sausage because it had so much salt.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, that sounds amazing.

[Sabrina Bryan]

But everything they're talking about, like, I. Every. So many of the scenes with the buffaloes, I was nervous because of how much they were like, you cannot. Like, you cannot go out there, and you are very aggressive.

[Will Friedle]

You have to be.

[Sabrina Bryan]

You know, it was.

[Will Friedle]

I'm glad the way you told that story, though, because I thought you were gonna say the way you started it. My friend married a buffalo, and that would have been a much different story.

[Sabrina Bryan]

This whole family, I mean, she lived in a house. I went to visit her in Arizona, the house that they had together. And her entire dining room was filled with buffalo heads all over the wall of a whole dining room. Like a whole wall head dining room. Yeah. And it was like, you know, part of it is they do hunt them, so then they use. They try to, you know, use all of them and whatever. But it was very strange to me. I was like, who? I never thought about a buffalo in any sense before. And.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, can I have a whole buffalo headroom? Very. Okay, well, Josh stops to take a pee break, and then he comes face to face with a handful of huge buffalo, which we've just learned shouldn't happen. He slowly passes them trying to sing Lean on Me, Sabrina's favorite, to calm them. And of course, if that's not enough, as soon as he's clear, he stumbles right into Kyle and his douche biker friends laughing at his singing. Josh tells him they aren't supposed to be riding on the buffalo trail, but Kyle gives very little. He wants to get some big air over at the moon rocks, or moon rocks, which I guess are a thing which have some, quote, really sick descents, unquote. As tough as Josh was acting, the idea of moon rocks for big air and some really sick descents apparently does excite him. And right as he's daydreaming about the bike trail, his herding crew appears, creating a bit of a standoff between the douches and the cool people. The bikers glide off. No care for the trail rules again, because they're Ass faces.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I love how quickly, though, Josh has gotten on the side of, you know, his crew. He really already is going to. Are not supposed to be. Well, yes. He's thinking, oh, wow, that does sound fun. But he is. He's standing up to these guys who have already kind of, like, muscled back at him.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And he's like, you're not supposed to be here. This isn't your land. And he's sticking up for them. I gave him props.

[Will Friedle]

I like that. But he also still wants to be a dirt dude, which is what I'm.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Calling the car, because he obviously really loves biking, and that's obviously something he did back at home.

[Will Friedle]

Terrible. I know. Later on, after a hard day's work, the herd crew are ready to leave as a thunderstorm approaches. Oh, so many thunderstorms. I just. I. Oh, like, I want to go to Oklahoma during, like, thunderstorm season. It would be really bad.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Do we think they were, like, real when they were filming them?

[Will Friedle]

They might have caught one or two. But Utah. Are they really prevalent in Utah? I have no idea. We'll have to do shots.

[Sabrina Bryan]

They didn't look bad at all.

[Will Friedle]

No. Some of the buffalo shots didn't look. You could tell were superimposed. The storms looked.

[Sabrina Bryan]

The storms look great.

[Will Friedle]

I think I agree. So, yes, with the thunderstorm approaching, Josh still decides to ride his bike home, even though Moon strongly suggests joining him in the car. And, boy, does he regret that decision, because on his way home, it starts to pour, only to finally get home to a hot bath and basically fall asleep in it, which I'd like everyone to know is a major death trap. Now, at this point, I wasn't yelling at the screen, but I will get into why I'm yelling at the screen later. The next day, the herd squad is back at it. Moon is talking about how this land was given to the Navajo by the sacred four mountains, but is reminded he's actually Danish, which I love that part where he's just like, Thomas Blackhorse was just like, dude, you're Danish. The guys get to clearing the trees, and just when Josh gets super tired, he's revitalized by seeing all the buffalo that he's preserving. He's starting to get the. Get the vibe. Later, Josh is at Charley Horse, which is the local BMX shop, checking out their inventory. While he's drooling about a cool new bike, he's interrupted by Kyle. He just bought that bike. And invites Josh to come out and ride with him. And that's when we see Scout and Her grandma in the store listening in. Kyle takes his bike and tells him that they'll be at Red Rocks on Friday. And we can tell it sounds really cool to Josh. Nearby, Grandma says it's time for one of her famous potlucks. And also, what the hell were they doing in the bike shop? Why are they there? Don't they hate bike shops? They're like, it was weird to have them there in the bike shop. Like they should have been there maybe outside walking by because it's like, why are they in the bike shop? They, they don't like the bike shop.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Well, they also this Abuela Rose is like. She's like what? I was talking about my mom being just like a ninja. Like she just always kind of pops up the whole time she's there. She's like, hey, what are you doing? Oh, I'm just making sure I know what you're up to. I mean she's a creeper.

[Will Friedle]

She knows everything.

[Sabrina Bryan]

She knows everything. That's what you have to do to be the all knowing.

[Will Friedle]

You know you're down when you become the grandmother, eventually you're going to be a ninja ninja mom, then ninja grandma. You know that's going to happen.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I guess so.

[Will Friedle]

We now are cutting to this famous potluck she was talking about and it is packed with Navajo locals. Josh and his parents arrive with some dried blue corn cheese ball pick me ups. Which A, say that five times fast. B, I'd like to try them. Moon introduces himself to Dr. Nick, to which Nick responds, that's a stellar name. Get it? That's a cool dad joke. Do you have a favorite dad joke?

[Sabrina Bryan]

That was a great dad joke.

[Will Friedle]

Do you have a good dad joke?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, I've. Oh yeah. I can't think of them off the top of my head though.

[Will Friedle]

No, I can't either. There's some good dad jokes out there.

[Sabrina Bryan]

There. One of my. And I know you don't go on Instagram, but one of my favorite one is these three men that are out hunting and they whisper them like how do you. And they all start cracking up. They're trying to keep quiet cuz they're hunting. It's so.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I gotta figure listen to dad jokes all day.

[Will Friedle]

He's the only dad. I do have to give you one. Please. What do you got? Where do leprechauns live? Where leprechaudos. Have a great day. Thank you.

[Sabrina Bryan]

That's a good one.

[Will Friedle]

It's so good. I love that.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Okay, I got one. I got one.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Hey Will, I'm scared for this calendar.

[Will Friedle]

Why?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Because their days are numbered. Okay, that's a good one.

[Will Friedle]

I need to have. I need to have some in my hip pocket. She's repeating her own punchline.

[Sabrina Bryan]

That's great. I love those.

[Will Friedle]

Sabrina loves them.

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[Will Friedle]

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[Sherra Coke]

Have you ever looked around at your crew and thought, man, these are my people? The ones who turn the smallest moments into memories you'll be talking about for years. The folks who show up when you need them and make your life so much better. Well, now you can make those moments even sweeter. Because Sherra Coke is back. And this time, it's all about celebrating friendships. Whether you're hanging out, watching the game or just chopping it up. There's a Coke for everyone, from bestie and bro to classic names like David and Sarah. These special cans and bottles are made for your whole squad. So grab one, crack it open and toast to the people who make life worth celebrating. But don't wait. They won't be around forever, so grab one for everybody, pop the top, and keep the good vibes flowing. Next time you're making memories, don't miss your chance to share a Coke with all your favorite people.

[Nathan Lane]

Catch the new Hulu original comedy, Mid Century Modern, from the creators of Will and Grace, executive producer Ryan Murphy and director James Burroughs. When three best friends move in together, Palm Springs will never be the same. Bunny, Jerry, and Arthur are already close friends, but when they decide to live together, it's a new chapter with a new family. And speaking of family, family, don't forget Bunny's mom, Sybil, who's along for the ride. Whether it's a trip to Fire island or a local congresswoman with a wild side, these roomies know how to do it with style. They're fun, they're fabulous, and they're turning life's lemons into spiked lemonade. So shake up a batch of cocktails, relax by the pool, and get ready for some serious shade. A new comedy with heart, soul and sass. Mid Century Modern stars Nathan Lane, Matt Bomer, Nathan Lee Graham, and Linda Lavin. All episodes of Mid Century Modern are now streaming on Hulu.

[Will Friedle]

That night, we are still at the party. Josh, Moon, Scout, and Thomas are looking at the stars. Thomas explains that his grandma wants him to eat, sleep, and breathe Navajo, but it's just not for him. Josh can relate to that. That's how his dad is with science. And I liked the kind of them bonding over their dads, but two sides of the same coin. I thought it was very cool. Nearby, John Blackhorse and Dr. Nick are chatting. This is exactly what I was talking about. Also finding common ground. They're both trying to save the universe and their surroundings just in different ways. And both get their stories from the sky. Inside the house, Josh walks in on Scout listening to music and looking longingly at a picture in a frame. And it's definitely becoming another dcom go to for letting us know that someone is dead or gone. Thomas lets Josh know that Scout can hear perfectly. She just doesn't talk. And she hasn't always been that way. Josh thanks him for the day and leaves with his parents. One thing I really liked about this character was he was very polite. And while cleaning up, John Blackhorse suggests that Thomas take out Josh to show him a good time. So the next day, Thomas takes his new friend and the rest of the Buffalo gang to a secret waterfall and river spot called Shining Steps. And oh God, I just wanted to be able to Go there. He makes Josh swear secrecy about it though. He can't tell anybody. They each take turns jumping in from a tall cliff while a really annoying flute plays in the background. A lot of the music was very Asian. Karate Kid was what this music was.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

I thought it was off. It didn't fit to me.

[Sabrina Bryan]

No. And it's one of those things where you feel like they're trying to push. Push stuff like spirituality.

[Will Friedle]

Yes. Instead of letting it flow.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I agree 100%. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Even though Josh is scared, he eventually does jump in the water with a very badly imposed shot where they. It looked like it was a reasonable 10 foot jump, but when they superimposed it, it made him look like he jumped off this giant 50 foot cliff. Yeah, it was strange.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I didn't think it would look good.

[Will Friedle]

No, that didn't. It didn't look good at all. Moon explains this river is where Navajo men would learn how to hunt and become a man. Thomas then asks why he's so interested in the Navajo culture. And Moon says it's because they had to survive hardships to be where they are today. And he believes in everything they preach. He especially someday wants to have a vision. On the other end of the spectrum, though, Thomas doesn't believe in any of it. He thinks they make it up as they go. But even with this in mind, he hates Kyle for being so anti Navajo, which makes sense. Kyle's a. Back at home, Josh finds his dad is playing acoustic guitar. So note to self, never invite him to a party. He tells his parents about his day and gets shut down when he mentions getting a new bike. Now it's Friday, the day of the Red Rocks bike ride. And Josh is waiting at the bus stop with his bike. And then Abuela Rose and John Blackhorse pull up to offer him a ride. He accepts and they drop him off with Kyle and his goons already biking. And then. I love this so much. Josh makes sure this isn't a restricted area or sacred land. They assure him it's not, but still warn him to be careful and safe. And I don't know why, but I thought it was such an endearing moment of him. Just double checking, like, am I okay to ride here? Is it sacred? Is it? And it was just little moments like that I really liked in this film.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes. And I love that in a kid like you hope your kid is like that. I don't. To me, that made me not that irritated with him wanting to. It wasn't wanting him to be with the quote unquote cool Kids, right? Because I knew I. It was like, you know what? He just really likes to bike. So no one else wants to ride? No. You know, these are the people he can ride with, but he's still really already embracing this culture and their. Their boundaries and what they. You know, what they believe.

[Will Friedle]

Really cool. It was a cool moment.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I was like, yeah, this is a good.

[Will Friedle]

This is a good dude.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Josh, you're cute.

[Will Friedle]

Josh is a good dude. The boys all line up, ready for a big race. And Kyle warns Josh his bike might not be made for this type of train. But Josh sees, no. He's ready. And then go. The bikes speed off, bouncing off rocks, pushing through the off road. Kyle was right. This is tough. It looks very dangerous. We see Kyle, then Josh complete some pretty cool jumps. As promised, everything is going great until Josh runs right into a giant concrete slab for some reason and goes flying over his handlebars. It is quite a spill for his body double. Instead of popping in to check on him, Kyle just yells, ow, that's gotta hurt. And passes him. After the race, one of the goons invites Josh to go swimming, but Kyle says there are too many locals at the public pool. Oh, I knew where this was going right away, and I was, uh. You can tell that Josh wants to fit in more, especially when he hears another kid making fun of his bike. So he quickly blurts out that he knows somewhere they can all go swimming.

[Sabrina Bryan]

No Josh.

[Will Friedle]

And just like that, the day after, he leads them to Thomas secret Navajo spot. Way to keep a secret for 24 hours, bro. Like, not even a place he promised he would never share. Kyle, as they're driving there, crashes into a small tree, knocking it down, before running to the sacred lake and throwing a soda can into it. Josh has really messed up. Eventually, the boys jump in, and when Josh shows some trepidation, another goon pushes him over the cliff fully clothed. This is after they had, like, Thomas Blackhorse. They're in the water with Scout, and he's like, you don't have to jump if you don't want to. It's just they're showing the good guys versus the bad guys. Clearly. Josh is obviously furious. This could have seriously injured him. But no one cares. We're back in town now, and a buffalo is standing in the middle of the street, blocking traffic. And that same woman. Buffalo. Buffalo Karen. We're gonna call her from now on. So Buffalo Karen is calling it. The woman from the radio show earlier is stressed, sitting in her car. Thomas arrives and wrangles the animal away by Once again singing Lean on Me. I love it. The kid is very good at his job. Back at the waterfall, Kyle is spray painting his name on the rocks, and Josh can't believe it. This isn't his land.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Hate this.

[Will Friedle]

The BMX goons made fun of him for caring about the Navajo and go right back to tagging. Josh wants to leave asap, but the posse isn't done causing damage. And I was livid when I was watching this happen.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Was this when you were screaming at, Nope, this isn't it. I was pissed. I stand when I see this out and about, especially on any kind of older building. You know, there's some places where it was either allowed or whatever, and they're beautiful pieces of art, you know, but when it's just something that you just get a can of paint and just spray on anyone's building, it's awful.

[Will Friedle]

I remember I had. So I was in a hiking. A hiking club in high school, and our teacher, Mr. Lachance, was the cool English teacher. We loved him, and he would. He was very aware of wherever we were. And I remember one time we're walking up. We're hiking up Mount Washington, and somebody's walking by and talking loudly, and he just turns his head and goes, dude, you're infringing on my right to enjoy the mountain. And I remember his voice in my head as I watched. It's like, dude, you're infringing on other people's rights to enjoy the Shining Steps. So, yeah, that maybe. The next morning, Josh says he's sick and misses work. But you can tell he just feels guilty and is avoiding everything out. Back on the reservation, the Buffalo gang decide that once they're finished with the day's work, they're gonna go swimming at Shining Steps. And you know what's coming next. As soon as they arrive, they see all the vandalism in the trash. Thomas and Scout immediately know it was Josh and all those goons. But Moon, of course, being Moon, isn't so sure. We're now back at Josh's house. He's working on his damaged bike when his parents walk downstairs with Thomas and John Blackhorse. They know he brought his friends to Shining Steps, and he quickly breaks down. He says he was there, but he didn't tag or litter. He says he tried to stop them, which is kind of a lie. He really just softly warned them. He for sure could have done a lot more, but he didn't. And Josh just keeps repeating that he tried to stop them, which again, isn't the issue he's completely ignoring the main problem, which is that he brought them there in the first place. Dr. Nick assures the guests that this will be taken care of and apologizes. John Blackhorse says that nature now needs to be balanced by the boys living in Hosho, which seems very serious to Thomas. We learn what a ho show is when Josh and Thomas pack their bags very early in the morning. They're going into the wilderness alone to discover their true nature. The time spent alone will help them find themselves. They need to embrace the dreams they have and accept the animals who approach them. Have you ever done anything like this? A spiritual kind of journey or quest?

[Sabrina Bryan]

No. And I just needed. I was like, hold on. Okay, Josh, Thomas could. If you told me he was above the age of 18, I'd believe you. He seems like an older character, probably just because he seems, in general, as a actual person, not an actor, like an old soul. Josh is like a little kid.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Sabrina Bryan]

We're sending him where now with no one, and then he's not even gonna be sleeping near Thomas, who looks like he knows his way around. We're just gonna let him go where now? No. Nope, nope.

[Will Friedle]

But they're supposed to be. He even says you need each other, so they're supposed to be together the whole time. And is he a little kid, or has he just been treated like a little kid?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, I don't care. He's not. I don't care what it is. He's too young to be doing this on his own.

[Will Friedle]

I was like, fair enough.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, my gosh. This made my heart just go. This is a bad idea.

[Will Friedle]

I'd love to do this. I am not outdoorsy. I was when I was a kid. I used to camp and ride bikes and do all that kind of stuff, but I've lost it as an adult. I wouldn't mind some kind of reconnection with nature. I think that would be interesting.

[Sabrina Bryan]

He can take me for my birthday once to a camping trip and. Okay, he had all these really cool things, like the shower that you hang from the tree, and you put the big thing of water out on a rock for four hours, and it heats it up.

[Will Friedle]

Did you like it?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Like, day one, I was like, oh, okay, cool. Then, like, we were there for three nights, and I'm like, no, I can't have any more eggs and trout. Like, get me home. Get me home. This is it. By the way, this was not a good birthday.

[Will Friedle]

When did you break up with them? How long after that did you break up with them?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Probably a Few months after that. Honestly, it was like, man, no.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, I'm sorry. Note to self. Sabrina's birthday, no eggs and trout.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah, I'm like a pooling cocktails girl. I am not.

[Will Friedle]

But I. Yeah. That's why I would like to reconnect. I know. Sue's the same way. Anyway, even before l. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, don't get me wrong. I will be connecting by myself.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

Even before sunrise, John Blackhorse gets them ready for their journey and warns them about possible thunderstorms. He looks through their bags, confiscating most of it, including Josh's dim sum. The boys complain they need their stuff. He advises them to look after one another and drives off. The boys start their walk and Josh wonders if a hosho is a vision quest. Thomas says, no, Navajos don't do vision quests. It's worth noting now that the synopsis on Disney is. Two teenagers are sent on a vision quest by a Navajo elder. So that was apparently not what they're doing. The boys stop at a river, but Thomas says it is a bad campsite because there are animal tracks. He also actively tries to ditch Josh and for good reason. He's still mad at Josh for leading Kyle to the sacred area, which he should be. This part is also infuriating because Josh asks, what was he supposed to do? He couldn't stop the goons again, ignoring the fact fact that he brought them there in the first place. That's the problem, Josh. Not that he couldn't stop them. That you brought him there when you shouldn't have. After holding that secret for nine hours.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Secret place that no one knows about. And now they're gonna tell everyone that place is destroyed. Yep.

[Will Friedle]

That's the reason they are now aimlessly walking in the desert. Thomas mentions this glaring omission and takes off in a different direction. They'll meet back up in the morning. Now separated, Kyle gets scared off by a snake, finds a pretty feather and eats some wild berries. Where I'm going? Who just grabs random berries and eats them? You're lucky you didn't die right away, you idiot.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Like, who does that? They showed that it was a bad idea with him vomiting, so yeah, now he's throwing up. Just don't just randomly eat from anywhere. Oh my God. And by the way, I have done it. It's a terrible idea.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, have you. What are you thinking? Oh, my God.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I was out literally riding my bike with my friend and we were sitting there doing just like hanging out, doing stuff that you do out in the like Climbing trees and whatever. Told you about, like, my whole little pond, that it was not a pond, and there was berries, and we were like, oh, I'm hungry. Let's try these. And we tried them, and we both got so sick that whole night.

[Will Friedle]

Don't just eat random berries. Nearby, Thomas is skipping rocks and starts a fire. Now night has fully fallen, and the boys are trying to sleep. But they're constantly woken by animal noises, which forces them both to grasp their pocket knives in fear. And then, as Thomas closes his eyes, it happens. He hears his grandfather and sees a series of stars come together into the shape of a staff. He reaches up to the sky and pulls a real staff from a constellation. Totally trippy. Once it's in his hands, we enter a sepia flashback. Thomas is now in traditional Navajo warrior garb and joined by his sister. Another Navajo man is approaching and yelling, he needs to help. Thomas needs to herd the buffalo and bring health back to their people. Thomas yells out to the stranger, sorry, not my problem. The man swears it is his problem, though. This land is part of him. Then they all turn to dust. Thomas and Scout's ashes ride a gust of wind to another field, now placed right next to buffalo. Thomas knows Scout will be of no help, so he tells the buffalo he will never be forgotten. They will help each other and. And with a turn of the staff, the scene returns back to color, revealing hundreds of buffalo in the distance. It was very cool. We also see that Thomas is actually fast asleep back at his campsite, and so is Josh. But Josh is dreaming about McDonald's, which is what I dream about most times, even though that dream changes. And now he's on top of a mountain, just chilling when a hawk lands next to him and says thanks when he feeds him a little bit of the burger. This freaks Josh out. He needs to go home. But he quickly realizes there's nowhere to go unless he can fly. And the bird encourages him to do just that. We all have flight inside of us, and I just wanted to eat some of those berries and be on these drugs because they looked phenomenal. I want to have flying dreams where animals are talking to me and all that kind of stuff. I'll eat random berries if this is where it ends up without the vomiting. The hawk tells Josh to pick between a raven, a blue jay, a crow, or an eagle. As his spirit bird, Josh tiptoes to the edge of the mountain and jumps. He free falls, but eventually starts flying. Have you ever had a flying dream?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

Aren't they the best? They're amazing. He is coasting above the beautiful New Mexico scenery. Utah. Eventually landing at a waterfall back in real life. A thunderstorm has begun, waking both boys up. Josh and Thomas yell for each other. Meeting back up for the emergency. They have to get to a cave they spotted on the initial walk. Now shielded from the rain and sitting with a fire, Thomas shares some beef jerky. Which if. Did I get this wrong? Josh is like, what is this? Like, he'd never seen beef jerky before. It was a strange kind of line where he's like, it's beef jerky. Dumb. It's a Slim Jim. You've never been to a 7:11. Like, what the hell? But it was.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It was weird.

[Will Friedle]

I might have misinterpreted what he was saying. He didn't understand.

[Sabrina Bryan]

But it seemed like if he didn't understand the beef jerk. What is this? What's beef jerky? But however, if I had been in that trading post prior and she was selling the turkey, like, if Jordan. I asked Jordan what kind of jerky he has because he loves when we go up to Big Bear. They've got places with all like alligator. And I don't want any part of any of that. I will do chicken and I will do beef. And there that is.

[Will Friedle]

I'll try it all. Turkey jerky, rabbit.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Just make sure if it's in like a weirder looking bag. What kind is it?

[Will Friedle]

What kind? What did you. What did you. Jerky? Jordan, what is this exactly? Please explain your meat.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I think he's tried turtle. He's definitely made salmon.

[Will Friedle]

Alligator's good. Turtles good.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I think in Alaska we had something. Was that caribou? Maybe There was a lot of really like, like different kind of fishy ones.

[Will Friedle]

I don't eat anything once. Oh, yeah. No, I don't like fish jerky.

[Sabrina Bryan]

So anyway, after the trading post, I think it's fair to kind of be like, what is it?

[Will Friedle]

I know, but I don't. I think he was asking what. Yeah, it was like, what the hell is going anyway? They're shielded from the rain. Thomas shares some beef jerky and Josh shares his dream. He decided he was an eagle, while Thomas says he dreamt he was a hunter. And it all felt very real. Thomas said he's tired of being in Navajo. He wants to live in Brooklyn or Graceland, but can't leave Scout or his grandparents. His parents left for Seattle and died in a car crash. This is where we find out that they died in a car crash. And that's when young Scout stopped talking. The Next morning, Josh is back home taking a shower. This is where I started screaming at the tv. How many times did we need to see this young kid in either a shower or a bathtub?

[Sabrina Bryan]

It was my. One of my first spruce seas. This is the first time we have, I feel like seen.

[Will Friedle]

They keep cutting to this kid in shower. I was. By the fourth one, I was like, why do we need to keep seeing this kid in a shower? It was off putting.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes, it was. It absolutely was. Especially like, what? I mean, he is kind of too old to be taking baths.

[Will Friedle]

Hey, wait, whoa. I still like baths.

[Sabrina Bryan]

No, I know, but that age range.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, no, I get it.

[Sabrina Bryan]

That age range or not, they're more showers. It was weird.

[Will Friedle]

It was weird. There must have been four or five times they showed this kid in either a shower.

[Sabrina Bryan]

A bathtub brain did ask, where else could he be? Like, anywhere else.

[Will Friedle]

How about, you don't need it? Why do you need to? She. It's. You learned nothing.

[Sabrina Bryan]

The only time that it was supportive, that made a lot of sense was we haven't gotten there. But when he trains.

[Will Friedle]

Yes. Okay, so show him one time. Let's. Can we have a one time kid in a bathtub scene, please? I mean, my God, it was.

[Sabrina Bryan]

This is weird.

[Will Friedle]

It was off putting. It really, really was.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I 100% agree.

[Will Friedle]

Yes. Okay. So Josh is back on his bike when he runs into Kyle and his goons. They're trying to find the secret waterfall again and ask Josh for directions. Apparently, they don't know how to get there. Josh demands they go clean up the mess they made, but the jerks just want to swim. Josh says he can't give them the location, and so Kyle challenges him to a bike race and. Oh, we're getting Disney here. If Kyle wins, they get to ride wherever they want and the tribe has to back off. If Josh wins, Kyle and his goons get lost forever. This seems like a bet Josh shouldn't be making in the name of the Navajo people. It was like, why are you doing this? They decide the race will take place next Saturday, but one of the goons then has my favorite moment of the entire movie where he says they have to push it back off by a week because he's getting his braces off. Just strange. So they agree. Two Saturdays from now at the Devil's Taint, they are going on the trail. It's actually the Devil's Revenge, but I have to call it the Devil's Taint from this morning on. Just so you know, it's the Devil's Revenge Trail.

[Sabrina Bryan]

So anyway, why does it have to be called that?

[Will Friedle]

Because that's. It's the best name. It's. They're always Devil's Curve, Devil's, Dead Man's Curve, Devil's. This. This is the Devil's Taint. Josh pays a surprise morning visit to John Blackhorse and Abuela Rose. Waking them up, Josh asks for Navajo herbs or medicine to get into better shape for the race. John gives him a green liquid in a jar and tells him not to eat anything. Today we see Josh back home working out and blending the concoction for consumption. He eventually is forced to admit to his buffalo crew that he challenged Kyle to a race. And like me, Thomas doesn't understand why he's speaking for all the Navajo locals. Even Moon thinks this is a bad idea. And Moon is clearly a weirdo. But Josh swears he'll win. He wants to finally do something bigger than himself. But Thomas wants to take over the race, especially after they see the Devil's Taint. It is a terrifying, nasty trail, and it is too much for Josh's bike. But Josh says he must do this to make up for his mistakes. He'll fix his bike and win. And Scout actually agrees. She hands him a turquoise necklace for good fortune. It is on. We get a montage here. Love a good montage of Josh practicing and exercising, eventually bathing again in the green. John Black horse juice. I don't need to ever see this kid in a bathtub. While practicing, he runs into Kyle and his goons and they exchange words. Kyle has a last laugh, though. He clogs Josh's spokes and sends him flying. Even worse, it damaged his bike and he has to walk home. Now, before this. Did you notice this? They do another montage of Josh training and he falls off his bike, tries to pop a wheelie, and hits a rock and falls off his bike. That looked real.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

It didn't look like a stunt. It wasn't. His stuntman, an actor, was clearly trying to do something like pop a little wheelie and takes a spill like. And they kept it in the movie. It is clearly. He has a wipeout. And I was like, oh, that was real.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Ouch.

[Will Friedle]

But yeah, this one, though, was obviously done by a stunt double. But even worse, it damaged his bike. He has to walk home and a thunderstorm is a brewing his mom. I want to live in this place with all these thunderstorms. His mom is worried and calls Thomas. They have no idea where Josh is. She then calls DJ Domino, who cuts into a broadcast With a breaking emergency, everyone should be looking for Josh. He is officially missing. Dr. Nick and Blaine and the Black Horses hit the road looking for their son in the storm, eventually finding him shivering at the train tracks. He is distraught that he can't race Kyle without a bike. Now Thomas and John return Kyle home and his parents are obviously very thankful. John offers an extract to help his spirit, but Nick is quick to say that a real doctor is on the way. The doctor comes in and essentially says the same thing that John Blackhorse says, which I really like. Now both families are together in the kitchen as Josh sleeps. John reveals to Josh's parents that he was training for a competition. They're shocked. They knew nothing about this. John sages Josh's room hoping to heal him. And Nick has to leave the house for a drive because he is sneezing the entire time. While coasting, he sees some road signs that say looking for something. So he pulls over to learn more. It is a cabin store called Things Forgotten. I think that's what it was called. I can't remember. It was filled with. I'm kidding. Didn't you. Sometimes it's so easy it's not even worth it. Like the calendar. It's Dan's number.

[Sabrina Bryan]

No, I really liked the name of it because I always. I get like little things from Things Remembered and I was like, oh, thanks. Forgotten. That's actually really cute for this. I loved it.

[Will Friedle]

It is filled with knickknacks, with Patty wax and with Jewel and inside is now. Do you think this was Scout? Do you think this was a grown up version of Scout in some kind of weird thing that they did?

[Sabrina Bryan]

No, I just was like, how do these people are. How are they all mind readers? It's.

[Will Friedle]

I didn't know if it was. There's a chance they were going for. That's supposed to be grown up talking Scout. I don't know, but I think. I'm not sure if it is. It's brilliant if it's not. They cast someone who could play her older, but. But I don't know.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah. And she actually looked familiar to me. That actress.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I couldn't answer. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

But she says he's not lost. He says, yes, I am. And he's looking for something for his son. She suggests a bike and he can't believe she knew to say that. He's taken aback. As a scientist, he just doesn't understand the Navajo people. She tells him there's a bike in the back and she can let him have it for cheap and Then Josh finally wakes up. He sees a shiny new red bike in his room and calls it tight. His mom and dad are so excited to see him awake. Nick says the bike is for the race. Josh says he isn't sure, but his dad assures him he is now on their way to the big race. Dr. Nick is giving all sorts of scientific advice to his son. There is a big crowd already waiting for the competition as Josh and Kyle shake hands before they start. Now at the starting line, Moon gets them ready. Get set and go. DJ Domino's keeping everyone updated on the radio as we watch along. They're both going at it full speed, neck and neck, with Josh's parents watching through a telescope. Okay, now follow me here. Nearby, the woman in the truck again. Buffalo Karen, the one who seems to be hounded by buffalo throughout the entire movie. She's driving in a field. Her car backfires, spooking the herd into a stampede. Meanwhile, the races come to the top of the mountain with Josh in the lead. Buddy notices the buffalo are off the reservation, thanks to that dumb truck lady. Again, stupid buffalo Karen. Kyle is gaining ground, so Josh finally starts to descent. They're virtually tied as they approach the Devil's Taint. Josh takes a massive jump over the cliff and lands it. But Kyle takes the easy, slow way around. Because sometimes you like to take the slow route with the Devil's Taint. But the buffalo are also still running at full speed, and Thomas senses it. Josh has now ridden completely off the trail. He entered the spectator area, alerting his crew that the buffalo are on their way to town. He ditches the race completely, letting everyone in on the emergency. Even Kyle's goons decide to help, leaving their idiot friend behind to race himself. Now the crew and a dozen other kids are racing back home. Thomas sets a plan to corral the buffalo, and everyone follows his lead. But once Thomas gets close, he takes a big fall, uncontrollably rolling on the ground, landing face to face with a buffalo. Scout catches up to help with her brother. Now hurt and helpless, the buffalo could attack every moment. She knows that. She stares at the animal, takes a deep breath. Oh. And starts to sing. Lean on Me. Yes. Love it. Sabrina's favorite. Eventually, joined by her brother, she is talking again. They successfully con the buffalo, sending him away, while at the same time, the rest of the bikers have halted the progress of the stampede. The city is saved. DJ Domino announces the victory, leading us to another potluck celebration. Josh is trying new prickly pear food and cactus, accepting his new Navajo ways. John Blackhorse gives a speech gifting his son Thomas an arrowhead necklace that belonged to his dad. He also calls up Josh and ceremoniously gives him the name Rides with the Wind. The partygoers applaud. All their new friends are together and they make a pact to protect the land as one. They give each other high fives and we freeze. That is our movie.

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[Will Friedle]

Why don't we do some real reviews? I think I have the five star this week.

[Sabrina Bryan]

You do.

[Will Friedle]

And it is by somebody named Johnny Mac Barlow. And the five star review reads as thus. Hi, I'm the husband of Elva Nava who played Scout's stunt double in the movie. I was there and saw her riding so close to the buffalo who were herded by a helicopter. It is something I will never forget. The crew deserves huge credit for ensuring my wife's safety and that of the other stunt doubles. My wife is a real tough Latina. I hope you like her work. Thanks. Five stars. What do you got this week, Sabrina?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I've got a one star from our buddy Unamid.

[Will Friedle]

Unamid's back.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Unnamed, putting in a review. Not willing to taking the claim.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, take some credit.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Take some credit, guys. Anyway, this one goes. Saw the first 20 minutes of it. Pretty stupid in my opinion, of course.

[Will Friedle]

Wow. UNAM is harsh this week. One star. And now we come to our feature presentation of our program, Sabrina's favorite, the Jensen Chronicles. I'm going to start calling this producer Jensen Chronicles and this feature is called BMX or BM next. When we started the podcast who would have guessed that BMX bikes were such a common theme in dcoms? It sure does come up a lot. So to make sure we're ready for any bikes, the future holds, we're going to be given four options. And we have to guess which is an actual name for a BMX bike and which are fake. The other options are completely and totally made up. If we can guess three out of five, we win. Number one. So which again? Real bike company, Fake bike company? Is it A, Borrow Major? B, Trick Minor? C, Haro Master, or D, Spike Senior? Sabrina, what do you got? Ooh.

[Sabrina Bryan]

C, Haro Master.

[Will Friedle]

I am also agreeing with you because I know Haro is a bike company because I watch BMX Bandits and Rad all the time. So, C, Harrow Master it is. C Harrow Master, your movie tradition has paid off. Finally, number two. Is it A, Skyway Street Beat, B, Spokeset Sunmore? C, Cloud Lane Century, or D, Just Air? And I'm gonna say I have no idea. I'll pick first this time since you picked first last time. B, Spokeset Sunmore.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I'm going with that one, too.

[Will Friedle]

Okay. B. Spokesettes on More. Stick together and lose. It's A. Okay. Skyway Street Beat Luz. That's right. Don't ever, ever stick together. Number three. Is it A, SpeedPro 3, B, SpeedPro 2, C, SpeedPro 1, or D, Hutch Trickstar? Sabrina, what do you got?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I'm going with D. Hutch Trickstar.

[Will Friedle]

It is gonna be D because Hutch is another bike company Will knew so much about. Bmx.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I know bmx.

[Will Friedle]

Bmx.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I have a pretty cool one to take him to the coop.

[Will Friedle]

I did not yet. Here's the other thing, by the way. My brother had a hutch when we were growing up. It was like his prized possession. Number four, is it A, General Osborn Pro, B, Sergeant Osborn Pro, C, Captain Osbo Osborne Pro, or D, Officer Osborne Pro? And once again, I have no idea. So I'm gonna pick just because it's kind of a cool name. B, Sergeant Osborne Pro. Sabrina, what do you got?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I was gonna go with B, but now I can't. I'll go with D, Officer.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, you're gonna waste. It's A. Oh, we both got it wrong.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It's General Osborne's like, nah, that doesn't seem cool enough, General.

[Will Friedle]

Now, this is where Jensen gets mean, because I know Mongoose is also a bike company. So is it A, Mongoose Jumper Pro, B, Mongoose Decade, C, Mongoose Grinder, or D, Mongoose Tinder so it sucks because.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I was like, oh, Mongoose. Grinder.

[Will Friedle]

Are you. I'm gonna go with a Mongoose jumper pro. I'm so good at fake names.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It's b. Mongoose Decade. That seems weird. The pro and the Grindr. Like, really?

[Will Friedle]

I thought Grindr and Tinder, you would have realized were two fake things.

[Sabrina Bryan]

No, I thought he found Grindr and was like, oh, that's funny. Mamu's Tinder.

[Will Friedle]

I see. By the way, that's what I thought you'd think.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It's Nefari. You're too good.

[Will Friedle]

We lost again. That's two in a row we have lost. Can we do some Sabrina sees? At least we know we'll win there.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Kinda. So one of the first things. And I, I, I put it down going, they're, you know, definitely going to talk about this, but we'll just put it down anyway. Did you realize that she could, she could hear before they, like, like, made it obvious? No, you didn't.

[Will Friedle]

No, I thought she was deaf.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh. Because in when he's in the bike shop and they're talking and her and a boy.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, no. That's where I figured it out. Okay, I, I thought you meant when we first meet her.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, no, no, no.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

No, but this was quite. This was a couple of few scenes before the, like. Well, it was, it was before the potluck. It was right before the potluck or whatever. And. And I was like, she can't see his mouth. I know. Deaf people are just incredible at some.

[Will Friedle]

Of the lip reading.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Lip reading. And it's just amazing how much they can really do with that. And I'm like, no, you can tell the angle. She cannot see his mouth. What is going on here? So I was like, that hit me first. And then obviously that next scene when we see her on the bed and everything, it all comes together. And that just really took my, like, my heart. Because I have heard about a few people that do really kind of go seclusion through traumatic things. And I've talked to the parents of children like that, and how hard it is for the parents because of a school and all that. So that was just like a moment that I was like, you know, there's.

[Will Friedle]

A character in Scrooge, the little boy in Scrooge doesn't talk because he dealt with the trauma. Yeah, same thing.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It's so crazy. And that just really took my heart as a mom. Like, that was like, me. And I really just loved this little character of her. And I loved her way of finding a way to communicate. And I thought the way they used it throughout the movie was really great. You know, she wasn't necessarily always doing sign language. She was kind of also signing the, what seemed like the Navajo like ways of speaking, which I thought was creative and I thought they got really great. One of the first things though, before that was this kid. It's not like his bike. So we got to talk about this bike.

[Will Friedle]

The crap bike or the good bike?

[Sabrina Bryan]

The crap bike, because it's a crap bike. It wasn't even like it was a kind of rusty, old, somewhat of a mountain bike or a sport bike at all. It was like peewee around a beach cruiser. Yes, this is a beach cruiser that you see in Newport. Okay, yes, an old one. Yes, an old one. But this was not that bike. There is no way in hell that bike could have been on the terrain. It was.

[Will Friedle]

No.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Right.

[Will Friedle]

Well, they keep showing him changing the tires. So they keep showing him putting on new tires. So they're showing that he's putting on mountain bike tires. It's clearly not a mountain bike.

[Sabrina Bryan]

So would that work on a tire?

[Will Friedle]

I mean again, you're, you're just. If you put on those kind of tires, then yes, but it's still, you're. It's just a crap bike. They bought this multi million dollar house and they give the kid like, hey, we found this in the junkyard kind of bike. It was weird.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah, I just, it just was a little bit of a stretch to me. I don't think they needed to go far as getting this poor kid a beach cruiser. That was just get to get a bike to me. Another thing that really struck out to me, obviously we talked about the amount of baths that this kid took in a Disney movie. That was weird for me. But when the kids were going to the waterfall and those cans they had, I for sure was like, we're doing drink. This is a drinking thing in front of a Disney thing. We've only seen it once, but it looked like full blown like beer drinks.

[Will Friedle]

You thought it were beers.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It did not look like a, a soda of any sort. And I know you obviously can't do Coca Cola. You can't do the name brands. I understand that, but I wish there it just really like was like off putting to me. Especially when they throw them in the river and all that kind of stuff was just like, whoa, drinking in a Disney calm, you know, I'm not into that. I'm not into doing the drinking with the Disney bombs.

[Will Friedle]

Not.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Not cool. Keep it for somewhere else, they had, like, obviously the black horses and then the Charlie horse was the place where they were at the bike shop. There was the bike shop. Thank you. But there were no horses anywhere in this community. They had a lot of horse kind of references, but there were no horses. None. And then the last thing. Little tidbit. Monroe watched most of this with me. She actually really liked this movie. Okay. She's usually kind of. She'll start, she'll come back in. She kind of moves around. Her favorite part was when Scout gave him the necklace. And she goes, mommy, why is she giving him a necklace? Is that Moana's necklace? And I was like, yeah, that's probably Moana's necklace. She's like, very cool.

[Will Friedle]

Sweet.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I liked it. I liked this movie. She liked it enough to watch with me, which, again, she does not. She hasn't been able. The dcom's still a little bit above her head at this point, so.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, no, I get it. That's great.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It was a fun. A fun watch to watch with my little one.

[Will Friedle]

That's great. Well, thank you, Sabrina. And well, now we got to rate it. Now we got it. We got to figure out what we like about this. So our options for this week again. No, let's do one out of 10, and then we'll do. We'll do 10. We'll make 10 the best.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I kind of liked one out of 40, but I know one out of.

[Will Friedle]

10 today, I'm going to give this a 29. Yes. So our options today are one out of 10 jerkies. One out of 10 dirt heads, moon Rocks for Big Air and really sick descents. 1 out of 10 DJ dominoes. 1 out of 10 potlucks, talking hawks, Dried Blue corn Cheese ball. Pick me Ups one out of ten. John Blackhorse, Green juices. One out of ten Josh's Dim Sums. Or I'm going to add one out of ten Unnecessary Children bathing. Which would you like to. Why don't you pick?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I thought you were going to add because it was so good. 1 out of 10 Buffalo Karens.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, yeah. Buffalo Karen's is a good one too. You pick what you want. What do you want to do?

[Sabrina Bryan]

1 out of 10 Buffalo Karens.

[Will Friedle]

Buffalo Below Karen. You got it.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Character drove me crazy.

[Will Friedle]

There was no point for her.

[Sabrina Bryan]

There was no point in her character at all. Honestly, I. I think the DJ character with Adrian was. Was I. I obviously loved watching her do it, but at the same time, it was kind of like it.

[Will Friedle]

It was also kind of unnecessary.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It wasn't absolutely necessary. They could have made her character a beefier or knocked it out with Buffalo Karen. Beefier or knock it out 100%.

[Will Friedle]

I agree. Why don't you go first? You go first.

[Sabrina Bryan]

What do you got? I'm gonna go first because I gave our last movie A 6.5, which I hope I'm right, but I'm pretty sure I did okay. This one to me was kind of the same in the sense of I could take it or leave it, but I did think some of the stuff that was done overall was a little bit better for me. So I'm gonna do seven Buffalo Karens.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, I'm. I'm kind of right there with you. This is. This was not a bad movie. Was this a great movie? No. Was this a terrible movie? Absolutely not. It was. I think it was very pretty. Obviously you're looking at some of this, this gorgeous land and mountains and everything. Again, I thought Simon Baker was. I was just watching this kid and I, I just said it's this. Oh, people are now. Oh. One of our producers asking was it better than double teamed? Yes, it was. Yes, it was better than double as a movie. This was better than double teamed. It was. You've got 28 year olds playing 12 year olds and lines like, how do you tell them apart? They're different people. Yeah. So I, Yes, I would say this is, is probably. I'm gonna, I'm also gonna give it seven Buffalo Karens because I also, I like. I think one of Disney's jobs, frankly is bringing cultures that other kids might not be exposed to to them, to their house. And that's, I think, one of the things Disney's wonderful. Now this. There's a lot of people that will argue is a swing and a mission in this movie sense because they didn't do justice to the Navajo culture. So that's not a good thing.

[Sabrina Bryan]

But is it fair for them to bring it into their world, at least to be interested and then maybe they do their own research?

[Will Friedle]

They do the research, exactly. That's what I'm saying. So I don't know.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I don't understand. I didn't take this movie though, for Disney trying to do like an educational experience, right?

[Will Friedle]

No, not at all.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I think they were trying to just kind of tap into, like you said, bringing a new sense of culture into the world. This is before Twilight. Okay. This is before a lot of the, like what was, you know, big movies and really did it big for this generation. Right. So it's just a tiny tap into it. For kids. And then if they're loving it, then they're going, oh, I want to look into it more. So, yeah, I don't blame Disney, you know, should they have maybe done a little bit more research?

[Will Friedle]

Hell, yes. Of course.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes, absolutely. But I don't think it was an educational.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Moment for them that they were trying to do.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, it was. It was. I agree. And. And I liked. I liked that. I liked. I think that's an important aspect of DCOMs is.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

Is something that kids maybe wouldn't be exposed to. So I liked that. And we also got a chance to talk to Simon Baker about his role in this movie. I was so excited because, like I said, this guy just jumps off the screen. We had an awesome conversation. Take a listen to a clip when we were up there. That was Provo Falls. And then when we were doing the actual jump, you know, I'm going to break it down and. And ruin it for everyone. But that's okay. It's movie magic. We know it's movie magic. But we went to this big Olympic pool and we, you know, jumped off of this big diving board.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And so that killed it a little bit. That killed me a little bit. I wasn't thinking. You were. Oh, man.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, it was such a fun talk. So make sure you go and check that out. I promise you it is worth it. So our next movie, though, will be the 2003 fantasy comedy you wish. And I'm saying it like that because, yes, it has an exclamation point. That's always a good sign. It is viewable now on Disney. So watch it in good health and get a head start on us. And remember, everybody, to subscribe to our Magical Rewind feed, because you don't wanna miss that one. Just search Magical Rewind wherever you get your podcast and check out all of the interviews we do over there. And for more info about us and Sabrina and all the cool stuff, you can follow us at Magical Rewind Pod on the Instagram machine right now. Bye, everybody.

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